Date: 9/08/2021 11:08:18
From: buffy
ID: 1775686
Subject: COVID 9/8 to 15/8
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Date: 9/08/2021 11:08:53
From: buffy
ID: 1775687
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Sorry, meant to put a link in:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/nsw-records-283-new-covid19-cases-on-monday/100361158

283 out of 133,000 tests.

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Date: 9/08/2021 11:51:00
From: transition
ID: 1775693
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-07/victoria-new-local-covid-cases-melbourne-school-delta-outbreak/100358246

“……..said lockdowns would continue to be used to fight Delta outbreaks until vaccination thresholds of around 70 per cent of the population were met”

seem to be seeing a pattern of this statement^, with very similar wording being poked in between reference to national cabinet decision, or verbatim quotes of premier, without looking too hard

which to me stealthily buries letting covid go wild in until, of the example above, is my reading, possibly a misread on my part

presumably that sort of opening up is still a matter of discretion, if it happens at all, I doubt everyone or anyone is locked into that

just my opinion

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Date: 9/08/2021 12:53:15
From: Michael V
ID: 1775725
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

11.3 million Wuhan residents tested in a week, to attempt to halt the spread of Delta COVID-19.

Impressive!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/wuhan-mass-virus-testing/100361016

Meanwhile in NSW, MPs argue against mandatory vaccination. The argument seems to be that it is discriminatory. If that’s the case, why can’t I be allowed to drive at any speed I want to? (etc).

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/nsw-liberals-backlash-on-mandatory-vaccinations-in-nsw/100361354

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Date: 9/08/2021 13:20:18
From: transition
ID: 1775744
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


11.3 million Wuhan residents tested in a week, to attempt to halt the spread of Delta COVID-19.

Impressive!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/wuhan-mass-virus-testing/100361016

Meanwhile in NSW, MPs argue against mandatory vaccination. The argument seems to be that it is discriminatory. If that’s the case, why can’t I be allowed to drive at any speed I want to? (etc).

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/nsw-liberals-backlash-on-mandatory-vaccinations-in-nsw/100361354

>Meanwhile in NSW, MPs argue against mandatory vaccination. The argument seems to be that it is discriminatory. If that’s the case, why can’t I be allowed to drive at any speed I want to? (etc).

of that analogy, speaking of just the analogy, ignoring for a moment what you used it for, i’ve seen it assertively stated that posted speed limits are the speed drivers are meant to drive at, say it publicly and go uncorrected

also absent in your analogy, is vanished by your analogy, is that posted speed limits incline drivers to travel near the speed limit, which results in corrections from a range of speeds including going above the speed limit. I might add also people traveling at the speed limit inclines not just a convergence of speed but in many cases a reduction of distances between vehicle, ignoring safe braking distances

then there is overtaking, and of that, traveling near the speed limit requires the passing vehicle exceed the speed limit so as not to spend too much time on the right-hand side of the road traveling into oncoming traffic, and of that situation it is a minority of overpassers that keep to the speed limit

the reality is generally people can travel at any speed under the speed limit

so maybe a new analogy is required, one that doesn’t vanish half of reality to make whatever point

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Date: 9/08/2021 13:24:50
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1775749
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

NSW News & Alerts
1 hr ·
Stay-at-home orders in regional Victoria are being lifted early but residents in Melbourne will remain in lockdown

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Date: 9/08/2021 13:28:40
From: sibeen
ID: 1775750
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:


NSW News & Alerts
1 hr ·
Stay-at-home orders in regional Victoria are being lifted early but residents in Melbourne will remain in lockdown

I love that that’s under NSW News & Alerts :)

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Date: 9/08/2021 13:30:13
From: Arts
ID: 1775753
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

NSW News & Alerts
1 hr ·
Stay-at-home orders in regional Victoria are being lifted early but residents in Melbourne will remain in lockdown

I love that that’s under NSW News & Alerts :)

NSW is very good at telling others how to do things

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Date: 9/08/2021 13:31:58
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1775754
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

ABC North Coast
3 hrs ·
11AM UPDATE: The Premier has called for increased testing in the Byron Bay area, after a man in his 50s tested positive to COVID overnight and admitted to Lismore Base Hospital.
The man stayed in the Byron area after travelling from Sydney towards the end of July. NSW health is investigating the source of his infection and are arranging urgent testing of two household contacts.
The man was moving in the community for some days but there are no details of venues of concern currently available.
As a precaution, NSW Health says everybody in the following local government areas should immediately isolate and have a COVID-19 test if they have even the mildest of symptoms: Byron Shire, Richmond Valley, Tweed, Lismore, Kyogle and Ballina.

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Date: 9/08/2021 14:31:54
From: Boris
ID: 1775773
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/08/rightwing-radio-host-dick-farrel-anti-vaxxer-dies-covid

He reportedly changed his opinion about vaccines after falling ill and later being admitted to hospital before passing away on 4 August aged 65. “He texted me and told me to ‘Get it!’ He told me this virus is no joke and he said, “I wish I had gotten !” close friend Amy Leigh Hair wrote on Facebook.

and another one bites the dust.

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Date: 9/08/2021 14:49:59
From: Michael V
ID: 1775775
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Boris said:


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/08/rightwing-radio-host-dick-farrel-anti-vaxxer-dies-covid

He reportedly changed his opinion about vaccines after falling ill and later being admitted to hospital before passing away on 4 August aged 65. “He texted me and told me to ‘Get it!’ He told me this virus is no joke and he said, “I wish I had gotten !” close friend Amy Leigh Hair wrote on Facebook.

and another one bites the dust.

Covidiot.

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Date: 9/08/2021 15:17:18
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1775787
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


Boris said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/08/rightwing-radio-host-dick-farrel-anti-vaxxer-dies-covid

He reportedly changed his opinion about vaccines after falling ill and later being admitted to hospital before passing away on 4 August aged 65. “He texted me and told me to ‘Get it!’ He told me this virus is no joke and he said, “I wish I had gotten !” close friend Amy Leigh Hair wrote on Facebook.

and another one bites the dust.

Covidiot.

They saying is that ‘there’s no atheists in foxholes’.

There’s no anti-vaxxers in COVID-ward beds, either.

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Date: 9/08/2021 15:28:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1775797
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Boris said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/08/rightwing-radio-host-dick-farrel-anti-vaxxer-dies-covid

He reportedly changed his opinion about vaccines after falling ill and later being admitted to hospital before passing away on 4 August aged 65. “He texted me and told me to ‘Get it!’ He told me this virus is no joke and he said, “I wish I had gotten !” close friend Amy Leigh Hair wrote on Facebook.

and another one bites the dust.

you gloat at all these delicious irony supplements but nobody mentions all the alarmist “worse than a touch of hayfever” panic merchants who then went on and didn’t catch it, and didn’t die from, with, or even near a COVID-19, what about that delicious irony then eh

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Date: 9/08/2021 15:30:45
From: Boris
ID: 1775798
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Boris said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/08/rightwing-radio-host-dick-farrel-anti-vaxxer-dies-covid

He reportedly changed his opinion about vaccines after falling ill and later being admitted to hospital before passing away on 4 August aged 65. “He texted me and told me to ‘Get it!’ He told me this virus is no joke and he said, “I wish I had gotten !” close friend Amy Leigh Hair wrote on Facebook.

and another one bites the dust.

you gloat at all these delicious irony supplements but nobody mentions all the alarmist “worse than a touch of hayfever” panic merchants who then went on and didn’t catch it, and didn’t die from, with, or even near a COVID-19, what about that delicious irony then eh

I couldn’t handle that amount of joy if they all caught it and died.

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Date: 9/08/2021 15:32:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1775801
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

Boris said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/08/rightwing-radio-host-dick-farrel-anti-vaxxer-dies-covid

He reportedly changed his opinion about vaccines after falling ill and later being admitted to hospital before passing away on 4 August aged 65. “He texted me and told me to ‘Get it!’ He told me this virus is no joke and he said, “I wish I had gotten !” close friend Amy Leigh Hair wrote on Facebook.

and another one bites the dust.

Covidiot.

They saying is that ‘there’s no atheists in foxholes’.

There’s no anti-vaxxers in COVID-ward beds, either.

we thought they were the only ones in there, that’s what the media like us to think, remember the correct question when X died of COVID-19 is “were they ¿ vaccinated” and then “did they ¿ have pre-existing conditions” and then “were they ¿ over 60” and finally “did the ¿ Economy Must Grow for them” yeah

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Date: 9/08/2021 15:37:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1775805
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

uh

Premier Daniel Andrews says Victoria has been able to assert “a degree of containment” around Melbourne’s Delta outbreak, enabling regional communities to exit the week-long lockdown early.

Ten of the state’s 11 new COVID-19 cases were in the community while infectious

wtf

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Date: 9/08/2021 17:21:20
From: Michael V
ID: 1775842
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

“Northern NSW local government areas to go into lockdown from 6:00pm.

The Byron Shire, Richmond Valley, Lismore and Ballina Shire local government areas will go into lockdown at 6:00pm today.

The same rules will apply in lockdown, similar to the current restrictions in Greater Sydney.

This follows a positive case from Sydney travelling to Byron Bay.”

So, joining Tamworth and Armidale…

(No ring of steel around Sydney.)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-cairns-sydney-delta/100360648

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Date: 9/08/2021 17:23:19
From: Boris
ID: 1775846
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/09/victoria-covid-update-premier-says-younger-people-keen-for-vaccines-as-15000-book-for-astrazeneca

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Date: 9/08/2021 17:29:25
From: party_pants
ID: 1775850
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

I just heard on the rad io that we have just approved the Moderna vaccine and ordered 10 million doses.

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Date: 9/08/2021 17:31:36
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1775851
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

party_pants said:


I just heard on the rad io that we have just approved the Moderna vaccine and ordered 10 million doses.

We ordered them a few months back I think:

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/covid-19-vaccine-government-response/australias-vaccine-agreements

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Date: 9/08/2021 17:32:14
From: dv
ID: 1775852
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Not sure whether to put this here or in the Tokyo thread but I saw a clip of Chopra’s family and friends in a tent watching him win gold on a big screen…

Seemed to be about 10 people per square metre, no masks…

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Date: 9/08/2021 17:32:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1775853
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

party_pants said:


I just heard on the rad io that we have just approved the Moderna vaccine and ordered 10 million doses.


Australia’s medical regulator has granted provisional approval to the Moderna mRNA vaccine.

The Prime Minister Scott Morrison says the Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved the vaccine for use in Australians aged 18 and over.

The Federal Government has ordered a total of 25 million doses of the Moderna vaccine, with 10 million due to arrive before the end of this year.

One million doses are expected to arrive next month.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-cairns-sydney-delta/100360648

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Date: 9/08/2021 17:40:23
From: party_pants
ID: 1775854
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


party_pants said:

I just heard on the rad io that we have just approved the Moderna vaccine and ordered 10 million doses.


Australia’s medical regulator has granted provisional approval to the Moderna mRNA vaccine.

The Prime Minister Scott Morrison says the Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved the vaccine for use in Australians aged 18 and over.

The Federal Government has ordered a total of 25 million doses of the Moderna vaccine, with 10 million due to arrive before the end of this year.

One million doses are expected to arrive next month.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-cairns-sydney-delta/100360648

thankee/

I guess every dose helps.

I wonder if we’ll each end up getting all three over the next few years.

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Date: 9/08/2021 17:49:13
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1775859
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

“One million doses are expected to arrive next month.”

Next month.

It’s always ‘next month’.

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Date: 9/08/2021 18:04:50
From: Michael V
ID: 1775866
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

“The Byron Shire mayor says a man who tested positive for COVID-19 travelled to Byron Bay after spending time with his wife who had COVID-19 in Sydney.

Cr Michael Lyon said the man has not been cooperative with police and health authorities, who are now attempting to carry out contact tracing for the region.

“He travelled from Sydney with two kids, staying up here in Byron, been out and about a fair amount in the time, it’s disappointing,” he said.

“We’re going through trying to list all exposure sites and work out where he’s been, and he hasn’t been signing in and using QR codes, any of that…doesn’t believe in it, it’s a nightmare.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-cairns-sydney-delta/100360648

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Date: 9/08/2021 18:08:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1775869
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


“The Byron Shire mayor says a man who tested positive for COVID-19 travelled to Byron Bay after spending time with his wife who had COVID-19 in Sydney.

Cr Michael Lyon said the man has not been cooperative with police and health authorities, who are now attempting to carry out contact tracing for the region.

“He travelled from Sydney with two kids, staying up here in Byron, been out and about a fair amount in the time, it’s disappointing,” he said.

“We’re going through trying to list all exposure sites and work out where he’s been, and he hasn’t been signing in and using QR codes, any of that…doesn’t believe in it, it’s a nightmare.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-cairns-sydney-delta/100360648

It’s Byron.

He’s probably got a bag of herbs around his neck, and a bracelet he got from a shaman in Peru.

With protection like that, you can’t possibly have the virus. If the authorities can’t understand that, then screw ‘em.

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Date: 9/08/2021 18:11:04
From: party_pants
ID: 1775872
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


“The Byron Shire mayor says a man who tested positive for COVID-19 travelled to Byron Bay after spending time with his wife who had COVID-19 in Sydney.

Cr Michael Lyon said the man has not been cooperative with police and health authorities, who are now attempting to carry out contact tracing for the region.

“He travelled from Sydney with two kids, staying up here in Byron, been out and about a fair amount in the time, it’s disappointing,” he said.

“We’re going through trying to list all exposure sites and work out where he’s been, and he hasn’t been signing in and using QR codes, any of that…doesn’t believe in it, it’s a nightmare.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-cairns-sydney-delta/100360648

It should be house arrest for these sorts of people.

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Date: 9/08/2021 18:12:28
From: Boris
ID: 1775875
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

party_pants said:


Michael V said:

“The Byron Shire mayor says a man who tested positive for COVID-19 travelled to Byron Bay after spending time with his wife who had COVID-19 in Sydney.

Cr Michael Lyon said the man has not been cooperative with police and health authorities, who are now attempting to carry out contact tracing for the region.

“He travelled from Sydney with two kids, staying up here in Byron, been out and about a fair amount in the time, it’s disappointing,” he said.

“We’re going through trying to list all exposure sites and work out where he’s been, and he hasn’t been signing in and using QR codes, any of that…doesn’t believe in it, it’s a nightmare.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-cairns-sydney-delta/100360648

It should be house arrest for these sorts of people.

Yep. not co-operating should be an automatic house arrest and hefty fine.

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Date: 9/08/2021 18:14:38
From: Trevtaowillgetyounowhere
ID: 1775876
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Boris said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

“The Byron Shire mayor says a man who tested positive for COVID-19 travelled to Byron Bay after spending time with his wife who had COVID-19 in Sydney.

Cr Michael Lyon said the man has not been cooperative with police and health authorities, who are now attempting to carry out contact tracing for the region.

“He travelled from Sydney with two kids, staying up here in Byron, been out and about a fair amount in the time, it’s disappointing,” he said.

“We’re going through trying to list all exposure sites and work out where he’s been, and he hasn’t been signing in and using QR codes, any of that…doesn’t believe in it, it’s a nightmare.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-cairns-sydney-delta/100360648

It should be house arrest for these sorts of people.

Yep. not co-operating should be an automatic house arrest and hefty fine.

Nail ‘em up I say!

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Date: 9/08/2021 18:20:01
From: Michael V
ID: 1775877
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

NSW:

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Date: 9/08/2021 18:23:19
From: Woodie
ID: 1775880
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Boris said:


party_pants said:

Michael V said:

“The Byron Shire mayor says a man who tested positive for COVID-19 travelled to Byron Bay after spending time with his wife who had COVID-19 in Sydney.

Cr Michael Lyon said the man has not been cooperative with police and health authorities, who are now attempting to carry out contact tracing for the region.

“He travelled from Sydney with two kids, staying up here in Byron, been out and about a fair amount in the time, it’s disappointing,” he said.

“We’re going through trying to list all exposure sites and work out where he’s been, and he hasn’t been signing in and using QR codes, any of that…doesn’t believe in it, it’s a nightmare.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-cairns-sydney-delta/100360648

It should be house arrest for these sorts of people.

Yep. not co-operating should be an automatic house arrest and hefty fine.

Yeah……. Let ‘em plead the 5th Amendment. Then make an amendment to their lifespan.

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Date: 9/08/2021 18:59:43
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1775901
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.wptv.com/lifestyle/taste-and-see/vocal-anti-vaccine-broadcaster-dies-from-covid-19-complications

On Facebook, Farrel advocated against getting the coronavirus vaccine and was skeptical of Dr. Anthony Fauci, Chief of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, and his recommendations concerning the coronavirus. Friends said after contracting the virus he changed his point of view.
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Date: 9/08/2021 19:06:44
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1775903
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Vaccine mandates are spreading
But fear of the Delta variant may be more effective in prompting vaccinations

Aug 8th 2021

THE SURGE in covid-19 infections, along with stagnant vaccination rates, has prompted something else to spread across America: vaccine mandates. For months America had seemed to be moving in the opposite direction. Several states, including some where covid-19 cases are soaring, banned vaccination requirements in the spring.

But as the Delta variant spread in late July, California and New York City required public employees to be vaccinated or else submit to regular testing. Days later New York’s mayor said that, as of August 16th, customers and workers at restaurants, bars and gyms will have to present proof of vaccination. The governor of Virginia is requiring state employees to get the vaccine or be tested weekly. President Joe Biden announced a similar mandate for federal employees on July 29th, leaving room for them to resort to a mix of testing, masking and social distancing. But the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA), a federal agency, is insisting that its medical employees have the jab, and the armed services are considering doing the same. America is not alone. France, Italy, Hong Kong and others have implemented their own mandates for work and social activities.

Private employers are also taking a stand. All of the top 25 public and private universities, as ranked by US News and World Report, are requiring inoculation for students. Walmart, the country’s largest employer, with nearly 1.6m workers, announced that vaccination would be obligatory for corporate employees and regional managers. Disney, Uber, Lyft, Google, Tyson Foods, the National Football League and others announced similar requirements. CNN, a news organisation, fired three workers who came to the office without the jab.

Vaccination mandates—compulsory inoculation for employment or participation in certain activities—are nothing new in America. The army has required inoculation for several diseases for more than 200 years. Most health-care institutions also require employees to be vaccinated. Children face mandates, too. All 50 states require children to be vaccinated against childhood illnesses like measles and mumps, and about 95% of pupils have had the required jabs, according to the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention. Most states allow exemptions for religious and personal beliefs, but not all. California revoked personal and religious exemptions in 2019. New York quickly followed after measles raced through its Orthodox Jewish community.

The law gives states and employers wide discretion to require vaccines, says Walter Olson, a lawyer at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think-tank, though he expects a Supreme Court challenge to reinstate the religious exemption prohibited by some states. Many of the covid-19 mandates do include exceptions. Those in California, Virginia and New York City allow regular testing as an alternative. But employers can require the unvaccinated to foot the bill, says Mr Olson. And the tests can be expensive. Some cost more than $400, with no guarantee that insurance will cover any of it, according to an analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation.

The first legal challenge to a vaccination mandate failed. On August 2nd the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals declined to block Indiana University’s requirement that students get jabbed before returning to campus in the autumn. The three-judge panel—comprising one appointed by Ronald Reagan and two by Donald Trump—dispatched the unvaccinated students’ complaint in four crisp pages. The court relied on a Supreme Court decision from 1905 upholding a requirement that adults be vaccinated against smallpox. Since the university allowed religious and medical exceptions, the court reasoned, and since people “may go elsewhere” for their education, the students had no constitutional claim.

On August 6th the Indiana University students filed an emergency application to block the mandate with Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who handles such requests from the Seventh Circuit. Justice Barrett could tackle the matter herself or refer it to the full Supreme Court for resolution in the coming week. Given the novel and weak legal claims underlying the students’ plea, it seems unlikely the court will grant this request. Meanwhile, college students are also challenging mandates in Connecticut, Colorado and Massachusetts. Prospects for success in those suits are dim, too.

A pending civil suit from a law professor raises somewhat different questions. Todd Zywicki claims that George Mason University is violating his “bodily autonomy” by requiring unvaccinated employees to test, mask and remain several feet away from other people. Mr Zywicki, who contracted and recovered from covid-19, says he has natural immunity and his employer has “no legitimate rationale” for imposing these “unconstitutional conditions” on his employment.

Although most vaccine mandates are probably legal, some might be politically unwise, warns Mr Olson. Scholars point to behavioural experiments showing that incentives for vaccination, whether rewards or punishments, do not work. Researchers from Stanford University studied Ohio’s vaccination lottery, which offers prizes of $1m cheques and college scholarships, and found that it and other similar state lotteries had no impact on vaccination rates. Some research suggests that punitive policies, such as vaccine mandates, also have little positive impact. Only one in ten American vaccine holdouts said they would get the jab based on a work or travel mandate, according to a survey by The Economist and YouGov. Dissenters warn of a potential backlash. Among Germans, support for a hypothetical vaccine mandate dropped by 16 percentage points from 44% between spring and autumn 2020.

And vaccination mandates may not be worth the pushback. Over 300,000 VA workers, at least 70% of the total, are already vaccinated. The same percentage of the armed forces has received at least one jab, and 75% of eligible Californians were inoculated at the time of the announcement. Even so, mandates could have an impact where vaccination rates are low. Some facilities within the VA, for example, have vaccination rates as low as 59%. And many local governments announced policies for city employees in response to state mandates. After California’s announcement, Los Angeles declared its own requirement: its police department has a vaccination rate of only 47%.

Leana Wen, a former health commissioner for Baltimore, thinks that vaccine mandates are necessary. “We will never set any policies at all” if we worry about blowback, she says. Rather than some new phenomenon, resistance to public-health requirements is an old political reflex America has overcome before. Dr Wen points to the initial unpopularity of indoor-smoking bans and the recent backlash against childhood immunisations. “At a certain point a society has to decide, what is it that they stand for?”

New York City’s mayor, Bill de Blasio, claims his requirement covering restaurants and gyms has already succeeded, even though it has yet to go into effect. The city has reported an increase in vaccination rates. It administered 80,000 first doses during the first week of August, a 41% increase compared with the first week of July. The mayor attributes the gains to the city’s $100 incentive system (which began on July 30th) as well as the mandate.

These sorts of requirements are spreading beyond America. France is requiring that people who want to enter restaurants or travel on trains carry a pass demonstrating proof of vaccination or of a recent negative test, or else that they had covid-19 and recovered. This mandate has sparked protests, but French citizens mostly approve. Health-care workers also must get the jab by September 15th. Galicia, a region of Spain, is requiring inoculation to enter hotels, and Romania is considering a similar rule for shopping malls on weekends. Hong Kong announced on August 2nd that civil servants must get the jab or pay for weekly testing. Four days later, Italy rolled out the Green Pass. Required for entrance to a variety of venues, it shows proof of vaccination, positive antibody test or recent negative covid result. In England the prime minister, Boris Johnson, has announced plans to require proof of vaccination from the end of September for night-club goers.

Although vaccination mandates appear to be gaining momentum in America, they could eventually prove unnecessary. The country administered its highest number of covid-19 vaccinations in a month on August 4th — 864,000 doses. Vaccination rates have been increasing in the hardest-hit regions, including some of those least likely, for reasons of politics, ever to embrace mandates. Louisiana had 693 new covid-19 cases per 100,000 residents over the past week; only about 37% of eligible people there are fully vaccinated. But on August 3rd Louisiana reported the highest number of administered vaccine doses (19,372) since April 30th. Florida, with 49% of eligible people fully vaccinated, had 627 new covid-19 cases per 100,000 residents over the past week. The Sunshine State also reached a vaccination peak on July 30th: 76,050 doses were administered, the most since June 11th. Other hard-hit states are seeing similar results. Perhaps this wave of covid-19 infections will do the work needed to encourage vaccination, before mandates take hold.

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2021/08/08/vaccine-mandates-are-spreading

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Date: 9/08/2021 21:55:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1775940
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

whoops

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Date: 9/08/2021 21:57:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1775941
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Witty Rejoinder said:

Vaccine mandates are spreading
But fear of the Delta variant may be more effective in prompting vaccinations

Aug 8th 2021

THE SURGE in covid-19 infections, along with stagnant vaccination rates, has prompted something else to spread across America: vaccine mandates. For months America had seemed to be moving in the opposite direction. Several states, including some where covid-19 cases are soaring, banned vaccination requirements in the spring.

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2021/08/08/vaccine-mandates-are-spreading

at least then they’ll know that 100% of hospitalised are vaccinated, 100% of cases are breakthrough

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Date: 9/08/2021 22:33:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1775959
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Get Them N95 Masks (“Respirators” If You Must) On




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Date: 9/08/2021 22:40:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1775965
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.acgih.org/covid-19-fact-sheet-worker-resp/

Anyone can be a source. Anyone can be a receiver.

The American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists

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Date: 10/08/2021 01:05:06
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1775983
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

I haven’t posted hospitalisations before. Data is only available for a limited number of countries (not Australia, Peru, Mexico for instance). The plot below is log scale, so beware, and covers the timespan of a whole year.

Looks like hospitalisations are starting to drop in the UK, but still rising everywhere else.

At long last, the mortality rate (case fatality rate) in Mexico is dropping. It’s been 9.3% since like forever (same as Peru), but has dropped to 8.2% over the past month and a half.

Mortality rates for quite a few countries have been fluctuating either up or down over the past three months. eg. rising in Malaysia, Indonesia and india and decreasing in the UK, Korea, Spain, Australia, Iran. I don’t see any obvious rhyme or reason here to why the mortality values are what they are.

As the number of Covid deaths in Tunisia and Namibia falls, thankfully without infecting the rest of Africa (other than Botswana and Soth Africa) so new players enter the picture. In particular Georgia, Eswatini and Malaysia. High death rates in Malaysia and Indonesia are a bit too close to Australia for comfort.

Fingers crossed, by tomorrow the world’s worst death rate (7 day rolling average) will drop below 10 per million people per day, for the first time since Nov 2020. I don’t expect it to last, though, not with the rising number of deaths in Eswatini and Malaysia from the Delta strain.

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Date: 10/08/2021 08:09:18
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1775997
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Heard a rumour that there are 4 more positive cases in Cairns (to be announced today)

If that is true, then the cases will be the family members of the taxi driver.

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Date: 10/08/2021 08:44:56
From: Tamb
ID: 1775998
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Dark Orange said:


Heard a rumour that there are 4 more positive cases in Cairns (to be announced today)

If that is true, then the cases will be the family members of the taxi driver.

Can;t find any mention of it but I would be surprised if more cases didn’t emerge.

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Date: 10/08/2021 09:29:36
From: Boris
ID: 1776007
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/09/scott-morrison-rules-out-intervening-in-vaccine-mandates-for-workers-as-moderna-approved-for-use-in-australia

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Date: 10/08/2021 09:32:36
From: Boris
ID: 1776008
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/09/nsw-covid-update-spread-to-byron-bay-feared-as-tamworth-locked-down-amid-283-new-cases-in-state

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Date: 10/08/2021 09:52:10
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1776019
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Headline from ABC news…

NSW considers mandatory COVID-19 vaccination for all health workers after fatal Liverpool Hospital outbreak”

I find it strange that this is just happening now in NSW

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Date: 10/08/2021 09:57:00
From: sibeen
ID: 1776020
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:

Headline from ABC news…

NSW considers mandatory COVID-19 vaccination for all health workers after fatal Liverpool Hospital outbreak”

I find it strange that this is just happening now in NSW

Gold standard.

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Date: 10/08/2021 10:13:49
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1776027
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sibeen said:


diddly-squat said:

Headline from ABC news…

NSW considers mandatory COVID-19 vaccination for all health workers after fatal Liverpool Hospital outbreak”

I find it strange that this is just happening now in NSW

Gold standard.

most strict rules anywhere in Aust apparently..

:/

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Date: 10/08/2021 10:28:43
From: Michael V
ID: 1776030
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:


sibeen said:

diddly-squat said:

Headline from ABC news…

NSW considers mandatory COVID-19 vaccination for all health workers after fatal Liverpool Hospital outbreak”

I find it strange that this is just happening now in NSW

Gold standard.

most strict rules anywhere in Aust apparently..

:/

Yeah, nah.

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Date: 10/08/2021 11:03:32
From: Michael V
ID: 1776034
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

QLD: 3 new cases. All linked to Brisbane cluster. At least two isolated for all of their infectious period.

No new case in Cairns, so DO’s rumour is just that – a rumour at this stage.

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Date: 10/08/2021 11:05:57
From: Michael V
ID: 1776035
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

NSW: 356 new local COVID infections, three deaths.

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Date: 10/08/2021 11:07:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776036
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


QLD: 3 new cases. All linked to Brisbane cluster. At least two isolated for all of their infectious period.

No new case in Cairns, so DO’s rumour is just that – a rumour at this stage.

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Date: 10/08/2021 11:07:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776038
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:

NSW: 356 new local COVID infections, three deaths.

jfc

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Date: 10/08/2021 11:45:43
From: buffy
ID: 1776058
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


NSW: 356 new local COVID infections, three deaths.

They aren’t even trying! Victoria in July last year.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-30/victoria-coronavirus-cases-reach-record-high/12506262

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Date: 10/08/2021 11:48:18
From: buffy
ID: 1776059
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


Michael V said:

NSW: 356 new local COVID infections, three deaths.

They aren’t even trying! Victoria in July last year.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-30/victoria-coronavirus-cases-reach-record-high/12506262

Oh, hang on…

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/ending-the-second-wave-how-did-victoria-get-to-zer

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Date: 10/08/2021 11:55:53
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1776063
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Florida Governor DeSantis is spreading the lie that rising covid rates are caused by illegal immigration at the border. Does he think Mexicans are swimming to Florida?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/virus-surge-democrats-midterms/2021/08/07/65ff7f6e-f632-11eb-9068-bf463c8c74de_story.html?

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Date: 10/08/2021 12:21:17
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1776066
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Witty Rejoinder said:


Florida Governor DeSantis is spreading the lie that rising covid rates are caused by illegal immigration at the border. Does he think Mexicans are swimming to Florida?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/virus-surge-democrats-midterms/2021/08/07/65ff7f6e-f632-11eb-9068-bf463c8c74de_story.html?

It is a lie. Mexico has a different Covid strain that would be instantly recognisable if it arrived in the USA.

On the other hand, the opposite could be true. Americans heading south into Mexico could and proably did spread the delta strain there a month ago.

Oh, so the Florida Governor is right, “rising Covid rates are caused by illegal immigration across the border”. FROM the USA TO Mexico.

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Date: 10/08/2021 12:50:16
From: Michael V
ID: 1776080
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Witty Rejoinder said:


Florida Governor DeSantis is spreading the lie that rising covid rates are caused by illegal immigration at the border. Does he think Mexicans are swimming to Florida?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/virus-surge-democrats-midterms/2021/08/07/65ff7f6e-f632-11eb-9068-bf463c8c74de_story.html?

“not my fault”

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Date: 10/08/2021 13:38:21
From: buffy
ID: 1776112
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

“I don’t know what the future brings. The crystal ball hasn’t fired up lately,” said Minister Martin Foley.

From the Victorian press conference. ABC live updates.

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Date: 10/08/2021 13:44:06
From: buffy
ID: 1776117
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

MV is gonna love this one:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/uni-gathering-breaches-public-health-order/100364420

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Date: 10/08/2021 14:05:53
From: Michael V
ID: 1776129
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


MV is gonna love this one:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/uni-gathering-breaches-public-health-order/100364420

Yeah.

(Sigh.)

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Date: 10/08/2021 16:17:21
From: buffy
ID: 1776253
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

We seem to be nuancing the approach to the big housing towers in Melbourne now.

Public housing towers safe, but latest Melbourne cases involve residents

Three of Melbourne’s 20 new cases reside at the Flemington public housing towers on Racecourse Road.

Those cases and their families have been moved into hotel quarantine.

COVID-19 commander Jeroen Weimar says testing will continue at the towers in coming days.

“There are no positive cases, or no known positive cases at this point anywhere in the Flemington Estate.

“The estate continues to be safe and we have asked all residents of 126 Racecourse Road, they are all tier two, so they all need to get tested and isolated until they get a negative test result,” Mr Weimar said.

From the ABC live updates.

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Date: 10/08/2021 16:31:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776274
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

NSW Premier rejects idea of imposing a ‘ring of steel’ around Canterbury-Bankstown

Premier Gladys Berejiklian has rejected the idea of imposing a ring of steel around Canterbury-Bankstown as COVID cases in the area continue to rise. It comes as New South Wales sets a new daily record for coronavirus infections, with 356 cases and three more deaths recorded. Among the deaths were a man and a woman in their 80s and another man in his 70s.

Ms Berejiklian says a ring of steel won’t work. “Delta is different and we need to treat it differently. The NSW government doesn’t have any intention of putting in strategies that aren’t going to work,” she said. “What we do need is to ensure that we have greater compliance.”

by doing nothing

or perhaps by lifting restrictions surreptitiously so people who weren’t adequately complying before, are suddenly apparently complying, until they know about the lighter restrictions and then decomply again

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Date: 10/08/2021 16:35:00
From: Woodie
ID: 1776282
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


NSW Premier rejects idea of imposing a ‘ring of steel’ around Canterbury-Bankstown

Premier Gladys Berejiklian has rejected the idea of imposing a ring of steel around Canterbury-Bankstown as COVID cases in the area continue to rise. It comes as New South Wales sets a new daily record for coronavirus infections, with 356 cases and three more deaths recorded. Among the deaths were a man and a woman in their 80s and another man in his 70s.

Ms Berejiklian says a ring of steel won’t work. “Delta is different and we need to treat it differently. The NSW government doesn’t have any intention of putting in strategies that aren’t going to work,” she said. “What we do need is to ensure that we have greater compliance.”

by doing nothing

or perhaps by lifting restrictions surreptitiously so people who weren’t adequately complying before, are suddenly apparently complying, until they know about the lighter restrictions and then decomply again

I listened to all that this morning. Our Glad did not offer (when asked) reasons as to why it wouldn’t work (other than “it just wouldn’t”).

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Date: 10/08/2021 16:37:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776288
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

obviously this didn’t work

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Date: 10/08/2021 16:39:42
From: Speedy
ID: 1776291
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


obviously this didn’t work


Yeah, but they’re on an isla …

Hang on.

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Date: 10/08/2021 16:42:04
From: Boris
ID: 1776293
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Speedy said:


SCIENCE said:

obviously this didn’t work


Yeah, but they’re on an isla …

Hang on.

everywhere is surrounded by water though…

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Date: 10/08/2021 16:51:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776298
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8


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Date: 10/08/2021 16:51:57
From: Michael V
ID: 1776300
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Then there’s the close street that’s close.

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Date: 10/08/2021 16:57:43
From: Michael V
ID: 1776303
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:



That was my experience – practicalities – two appointments cancelled because there wasn’t enough issued vaccine, a third cancelled because we had a cold (negative COVID tests). But I’ve had my first vax now. Next in September.

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Date: 10/08/2021 16:58:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776304
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Professor Collignon said Moderna was similar to Pfizer-BioNTech as another Messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine that taught cells how to make a protein that triggered an immune response, providing “good protection”.

“They’re seeing very few deaths of people who have been vaccinated,” he said.

“And that’s the real target here: to stop people dying or getting very sick and needing to be hospitalised.”

we suppose these fuckers didn’t do specialist mathematics so hidden variables are too complex for their strategic thought, just extend the idea of that target a moment, oh wait, if you stop people getting infected at all then we guess you stop people dying or getting very sick and needing to be hospitalised no worries

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Date: 10/08/2021 17:04:31
From: Michael V
ID: 1776310
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard has refused to publicly release documents detailing the COVID-19 advice chief health officer Kerry Chant provided about locking down Greater Sydney.

During a parliamentary inquiry today a fiery Mr Hazzard butted heads with committee members as he and Dr Chant were questioned over the management of the state’s growing COVID-19 outbreak.”

Blah, blah, blah. (Something damaging there???)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/brad-hazzard-refuses-to-make-covid-health-advice-public/100365386

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Date: 10/08/2021 17:10:09
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1776314
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard has refused to publicly release documents detailing the COVID-19 advice chief health officer Kerry Chant provided about locking down Greater Sydney.

During a parliamentary inquiry today a fiery Mr Hazzard butted heads with committee members as he and Dr Chant were questioned over the management of the state’s growing COVID-19 outbreak.”

Blah, blah, blah. (Something damaging there???)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/brad-hazzard-refuses-to-make-covid-health-advice-public/100365386

It would seem the wrong time for an enquiry as I’m sure both the Health Minister and the Chief Medical Officer are bloody busy right now.

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Date: 10/08/2021 17:25:58
From: Trevtaowillgetyounowhere
ID: 1776318
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard has refused to publicly release documents detailing the COVID-19 advice chief health officer Kerry Chant provided about locking down Greater Sydney.

During a parliamentary inquiry today a fiery Mr Hazzard butted heads with committee members as he and Dr Chant were questioned over the management of the state’s growing COVID-19 outbreak.”

Blah, blah, blah. (Something damaging there???)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/brad-hazzard-refuses-to-make-covid-health-advice-public/100365386

It would seem the wrong time for an enquiry as I’m sure both the Health Minister and the Chief Medical Officer are bloody busy right now.

I get what you are saying and part of me agrees but if not now when? After covids gone? We are told this is something we all have to live with for the foreseeable future so perhaps they have to live with enquiries during these times and that we all have to make sacrifices and do what has to be done to find the best path through this.

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Date: 10/08/2021 17:29:06
From: Boris
ID: 1776319
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard has refused to publicly release documents detailing the COVID-19 advice chief health officer Kerry Chant provided about locking down Greater Sydney.

During a parliamentary inquiry today a fiery Mr Hazzard butted heads with committee members as he and Dr Chant were questioned over the management of the state’s growing COVID-19 outbreak.”

Blah, blah, blah. (Something damaging there???)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/brad-hazzard-refuses-to-make-covid-health-advice-public/100365386

It would seem the wrong time for an enquiry as I’m sure both the Health Minister and the Chief Medical Officer are bloody busy right now.

I get what you are saying and part of me agrees but if not now when? After covids gone? We are told this is something we all have to live with for the foreseeable future so perhaps they have to live with enquiries during these times and that we all have to make sacrifices and do what has to be done to find the best path through this.

plus they have minions to stand in for them, like when they have to sleep and shit.

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Date: 10/08/2021 17:30:52
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1776320
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard has refused to publicly release documents detailing the COVID-19 advice chief health officer Kerry Chant provided about locking down Greater Sydney.

During a parliamentary inquiry today a fiery Mr Hazzard butted heads with committee members as he and Dr Chant were questioned over the management of the state’s growing COVID-19 outbreak.”

Blah, blah, blah. (Something damaging there???)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/brad-hazzard-refuses-to-make-covid-health-advice-public/100365386

It would seem the wrong time for an enquiry as I’m sure both the Health Minister and the Chief Medical Officer are bloody busy right now.

I get what you are saying and part of me agrees but if not now when? After covids gone? We are told this is something we all have to live with for the foreseeable future so perhaps they have to live with enquiries during these times and that we all have to make sacrifices and do what has to be done to find the best path through this.

Victoria had an enquiry into the failures of hotel quarantine last year so an enquiry now in NSW would not be unprecedented.

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Date: 10/08/2021 17:42:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776323
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Witty Rejoinder said:


Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It would seem the wrong time for an enquiry as I’m sure both the Health Minister and the Chief Medical Officer are bloody busy right now.

I get what you are saying and part of me agrees but if not now when? After covids gone? We are told this is something we all have to live with for the foreseeable future so perhaps they have to live with enquiries during these times and that we all have to make sacrifices and do what has to be done to find the best path through this.

Victoria had an enquiry into the failures of hotel quarantine last year so an enquiry now in NSW would not be unprecedented.

remember how now is never the time to talk about gun control, or carbon emissions, or fucking incompetent corruption coalition policy in general

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Date: 10/08/2021 18:05:14
From: Michael V
ID: 1776334
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

I get what you are saying and part of me agrees but if not now when? After covids gone? We are told this is something we all have to live with for the foreseeable future so perhaps they have to live with enquiries during these times and that we all have to make sacrifices and do what has to be done to find the best path through this.

Victoria had an enquiry into the failures of hotel quarantine last year so an enquiry now in NSW would not be unprecedented.

remember how now is never the time to talk about gun control, or carbon emissions, or fucking incompetent corruption coalition policy in general

Yes. The “let’s put it off to a time when very few remember” trick.

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Date: 10/08/2021 18:52:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776351
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/international-junior-doctors-uk-ireland-head-to-wa/100363784

surprisingly if you destroy your NHS then your staff leave and go to a place that did things better

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Date: 10/08/2021 20:38:24
From: Michael V
ID: 1776381
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Newcastle aged care facilities on high alert after workers found to be COVID-19 positive.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/two-newcastle-aged-care-facility-workers-found-covid-positive/100366394

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Date: 10/08/2021 20:41:08
From: sibeen
ID: 1776382
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


Newcastle aged care facilities on high alert after workers found to be COVID-19 positive.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/two-newcastle-aged-care-facility-workers-found-covid-positive/100366394

That’ll be OK, it’s not in a well off LGA. Move along, nothing to see here.

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Date: 10/08/2021 20:43:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1776383
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sibeen said:


Michael V said:

Newcastle aged care facilities on high alert after workers found to be COVID-19 positive.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/two-newcastle-aged-care-facility-workers-found-covid-positive/100366394

That’ll be OK, it’s not in a well off LGA. Move along, nothing to see here.

OK.

(Well, no. It’s not OK.)

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Date: 10/08/2021 20:44:11
From: Boris
ID: 1776384
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


sibeen said:

Michael V said:

Newcastle aged care facilities on high alert after workers found to be COVID-19 positive.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/two-newcastle-aged-care-facility-workers-found-covid-positive/100366394

That’ll be OK, it’s not in a well off LGA. Move along, nothing to see here.

OK.

(Well, no. It’s not OK.)

skeptic pete is in that area I believe.

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Date: 10/08/2021 20:46:06
From: Michael V
ID: 1776385
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Boris said:


Michael V said:

sibeen said:

That’ll be OK, it’s not in a well off LGA. Move along, nothing to see here.

OK.

(Well, no. It’s not OK.)

skeptic pete is in that area I believe.

Yes.

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Date: 10/08/2021 20:46:10
From: sibeen
ID: 1776386
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Boris said:


Michael V said:

sibeen said:

That’ll be OK, it’s not in a well off LGA. Move along, nothing to see here.

OK.

(Well, no. It’s not OK.)

skeptic pete is in that area I believe.

Lemon Tree

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Date: 10/08/2021 20:46:57
From: Boris
ID: 1776387
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sibeen said:


Boris said:

Michael V said:

OK.

(Well, no. It’s not OK.)

skeptic pete is in that area I believe.

Lemon Tree

very pretty…

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Date: 10/08/2021 20:48:59
From: sibeen
ID: 1776388
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Boris said:


sibeen said:

Boris said:

skeptic pete is in that area I believe.

Lemon Tree

very pretty…

Well, it’s actually Lemon Tree Passage but I was attempting to keep it clean for the kiddies.

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Date: 10/08/2021 20:49:02
From: Speedy
ID: 1776389
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

From that story:

Mr Price said it was concerning that only 38 per cent of his employees are vaccinated, but said gaining access to the vaccine had been “a real struggle”.

“They should have been vaccinated at the same time as the residents were back in March-April,” he said.

“When the vaccinators came out to administer the vaccine they only brought enough for the residents.

“Staff were told that they would have to access it themselves, but the issue with that was they were in the same queue as everyone else.”

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Date: 10/08/2021 20:50:57
From: Boris
ID: 1776390
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sibeen said:


Boris said:

sibeen said:

Lemon Tree

very pretty…

Well, it’s actually Lemon Tree Passage but I was attempting to keep it clean for the kiddies.

Lemon tree, very pretty, and the lemon flower is sweet
But the fruit of the poor lemon is impossible to eat

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Date: 10/08/2021 21:11:09
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1776393
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Boris said:


sibeen said:

Boris said:

skeptic pete is in that area I believe.

Lemon Tree

very pretty…

Nice one.

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Date: 10/08/2021 21:12:59
From: Boris
ID: 1776394
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sibeen said:


Boris said:

Michael V said:

OK.

(Well, no. It’s not OK.)

skeptic pete is in that area I believe.

Lemon Tree

Isolation is not good for me
Isolation, I don’t want to
Sit on a lemon tree
I’m steppin’ around in a desert of joy
Maybe anyhow I’ll get another toy
And everything will happen
And you wonder

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Date: 10/08/2021 21:15:41
From: buffy
ID: 1776395
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


Boris said:

Michael V said:

OK.

(Well, no. It’s not OK.)

skeptic pete is in that area I believe.

Yes.

He’s not that old!

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Date: 10/08/2021 21:18:35
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1776397
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Boris said:


Michael V said:

sibeen said:

That’ll be OK, it’s not in a well off LGA. Move along, nothing to see here.

OK.

(Well, no. It’s not OK.)

skeptic pete is in that area I believe.

Further north , those areas aren’t that close to the passage.

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Date: 10/08/2021 21:26:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776399
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

Newcastle aged care facilities on high alert after workers found to be COVID-19 positive.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/two-newcastle-aged-care-facility-workers-found-covid-positive/100366394

That’ll be OK, it’s not in a well off LGA. Move along, nothing to see here.

OK.

(Well, no. It’s not OK.)

surely “high alert” is not the correct readiness at this stage of the game

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Date: 10/08/2021 21:32:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776400
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

The number and variability of the neutralizing epitopes targeted by polyclonal antibodies in SARS-CoV-2 convalescent and vaccinated individuals are key determinants of neutralization breadth and, consequently, the genetic barrier to viral escape. Using chimeric viruses and antibody-selected viral mutants, we show that multiple neutralizing epitopes, within and outside the viral receptor binding domain (RBD), are variably targeted by polyclonal plasma antibodies and coincide with sequences that are enriched for diversity in natural SARS-CoV-2 populations. By combining plasma-selected spike substitutions, we generated synthetic polymutant spike proteins that resisted polyclonal antibody neutralization to a similar degree as currently circulating variants of concern (VOC). Importantly, by aggregating VOC-associated and plasma-selected spike substitutions into a single polymutant spike protein, we show that 20 naturally occurring mutations in SARS-CoV-2 spike are sufficient to confer near-complete resistance to the polyclonal neutralizing antibodies generated by convalescents and mRNA vaccine recipients. Strikingly however, plasma from individuals who had been infected and subsequently received mRNA vaccination, neutralized this highly resistant SARS-CoV-2 polymutant, and also neutralized diverse sarbecoviruses. Thus, optimally elicited human polyclonal antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 should be resilient to substantial future SARS-CoV-2 variation and may confer protection against future sarbecovirus pandemics.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.06.455491v1

you were right all along, Australia failed, we needed to make sure everyone was first infected and only then give them shots of MPfodizerna

oh wait Gutless is doing this for us good news

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Date: 10/08/2021 21:53:38
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1776405
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sibeen said:


Lemon Tree

Very pretty, and the lemon flower is sweet.

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Date: 10/08/2021 22:08:50
From: dv
ID: 1776413
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

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Date: 10/08/2021 22:50:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776421
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/international-junior-doctors-uk-ireland-head-to-wa/100363784

surprisingly if you destroy your NHS then your staff leave and go to a place that did things better

https://nursingnotes.co.uk/news/workforce/nhs-workers-have-no-more-reserves-as-mental-health-related-absences-hit-all-time-high/

The number of NHS workers away from work with mental health-related absences has hit an all-time high, according to new data. The data reveals that almost 4,000 more NHS staff were off work in June 2021 than at the same time last year.

snowflakes

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Date: 11/08/2021 09:00:01
From: Michael V
ID: 1776481
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

COVID has escaped to Dubbo.

:(

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/covid-19-case-sparks-lockdown-fears-for-dubbo/100366842

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Date: 11/08/2021 09:03:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776482
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


COVID has escaped to Dubbo.

:(

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/covid-19-case-sparks-lockdown-fears-for-dubbo/100366842

it’s only a matter of time

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Date: 11/08/2021 09:21:21
From: buffy
ID: 1776489
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/melbourne-covid-delta-outbreak-vaccination-message/100366434

That must be the first time in history that the kids didn’t spread their respiratory virus right through the household!

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Date: 11/08/2021 09:22:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776490
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

COVID has escaped to Dubbo.

:(

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/covid-19-case-sparks-lockdown-fears-for-dubbo/100366842

it’s only a matter of time

worked with smallpox back in the 80s right

the 1780s

also

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/preschool-shuts-after-childrens-doctors-covid-test/100366958

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Date: 11/08/2021 09:26:05
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1776495
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


COVID has escaped to Dubbo.

:(

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/covid-19-case-sparks-lockdown-fears-for-dubbo/100366842

It seems obvious to me that we need to rethink the strategy moving forward here.. simply trying to lockdown now isn’t going to work, it’s gone too far now.

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Date: 11/08/2021 09:28:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776498
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:


Michael V said:

COVID has escaped to Dubbo.

:(

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/covid-19-case-sparks-lockdown-fears-for-dubbo/100366842

It seems obvious to me that we need to rethink the strategy moving forward here.. simply trying to lockdown now isn’t going to work, it’s gone too far now.

Too late to lock Sydney? A mandatory stay at home and only leave to bring out your dead?

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Date: 11/08/2021 09:32:01
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1776504
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

roughbarked said:


diddly-squat said:

Michael V said:

COVID has escaped to Dubbo.

:(

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/covid-19-case-sparks-lockdown-fears-for-dubbo/100366842

It seems obvious to me that we need to rethink the strategy moving forward here.. simply trying to lockdown now isn’t going to work, it’s gone too far now.

Too late to lock Sydney? A mandatory stay at home and only leave to bring out your dead?

I’m not saying that lockdowns aren’t required, but that we probably need to take a more nuanced approach.

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Date: 11/08/2021 09:32:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776506
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

Michael V said:

COVID has escaped to Dubbo.

:(

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/covid-19-case-sparks-lockdown-fears-for-dubbo/100366842

It seems obvious to me that we need to rethink the strategy moving forward here.. simply trying to lockdown now isn’t going to work, it’s gone too far now.

Too late to lock Sydney? A mandatory stay at home and only leave to bring out your dead?

we mean hey it’s true, lockdown can’t possibly help if you don’t have one

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Date: 11/08/2021 09:33:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776508
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:


roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

It seems obvious to me that we need to rethink the strategy moving forward here.. simply trying to lockdown now isn’t going to work, it’s gone too far now.

Too late to lock Sydney? A mandatory stay at home and only leave to bring out your dead?

I’m not saying that lockdowns aren’t required, but that we probably need to take a more nuanced approach.


The one thing that Gladys did say was that people were not obeying stay at home directions. Now I know that this is virtually impossible but there are ways to make it more possible.

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Date: 11/08/2021 09:34:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776509
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

It seems obvious to me that we need to rethink the strategy moving forward here.. simply trying to lockdown now isn’t going to work, it’s gone too far now.

Too late to lock Sydney? A mandatory stay at home and only leave to bring out your dead?

we mean hey it’s true, lockdown can’t possibly help if you don’t have one


this be so.

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Date: 11/08/2021 09:48:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776513
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

roughbarked said:


diddly-squat said:

roughbarked said:

Too late to lock Sydney? A mandatory stay at home and only leave to bring out your dead?

I’m not saying that lockdowns aren’t required, but that we probably need to take a more nuanced approach.


The one thing that Gladys did say was that people were not obeying stay at home directions. Now I know that this is virtually impossible but there are ways to make it more possible.

so what are these nuances that people suggest, we mean, if simple things aren’t cutting it then something complicated should do the trick right

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Date: 11/08/2021 10:31:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1776534
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

QLD: 4 new COVID cases, all linked to the Indro cluster, all in home quarantine during their infectious period.

Cairns to come out of lockdown this arvo. Some restrictions still apply though (masks etc).

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney/100366272

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Date: 11/08/2021 10:38:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776535
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

An Advertisement ¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/melbourne-covid-delta-outbreak-vaccination-message/100366434

For Vaccination ¡

of 40 year olds

with Pfizer

¡¡¡

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Date: 11/08/2021 10:46:27
From: Michael V
ID: 1776537
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


An Advertisement ¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/melbourne-covid-delta-outbreak-vaccination-message/100366434

For Vaccination ¡

  • Both of Cameron Ward’s sons caught COVID-19 at an AFL match at the MCG
  • He was in the middle of surgery when his status as a close contact was discovered
  • Being vaccinated protected Mr Ward and his wife from contracting the virus

of 40 year olds

with Pfizer

¡¡¡

Perfect.

:)

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:12:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776544
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:

QLD: 4 new COVID cases, all linked to the Indro cluster, all in home quarantine during their infectious period.

Cairns to come out of lockdown this arvo. Some restrictions still apply though (masks etc).

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney/100366272

congratulations QLD, conferatur NSW

NSW recorded 344 new locally acquired COVID-19 cases in the 24 hours to 8:00pm yesterday.

At least 65 of the cases were infectious while in the community.

A man in his 90s and a man in his 30s have died after contracting COVID-19.

NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian said the man in his 30s had other underlying health conditions and the man in his 90s was not vaccinated.

There have been 91 COVID-19 fatalities in NSW since the start of the pandemic.

More to come.

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:14:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776546
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

QLD: 4 new COVID cases, all linked to the Indro cluster, all in home quarantine during their infectious period.

Cairns to come out of lockdown this arvo. Some restrictions still apply though (masks etc).

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney/100366272

congratulations QLD, conferatur NSW

NSW recorded 344 new locally acquired COVID-19 cases in the 24 hours to 8:00pm yesterday.

At least 65 of the cases were infectious while in the community.

A man in his 90s and a man in his 30s have died after contracting COVID-19.

NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian said the man in his 30s had other underlying health conditions and the man in his 90s was not vaccinated.

There have been 91 COVID-19 fatalities in NSW since the start of the pandemic.

More to come.


At least 65 of the cases were infectious while in the community.

. We have to bring this down somehow.

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:24:44
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1776549
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

I’m not saying that lockdowns aren’t required, but that we probably need to take a more nuanced approach.


The one thing that Gladys did say was that people were not obeying stay at home directions. Now I know that this is virtually impossible but there are ways to make it more possible.

so what are these nuances that people suggest, we mean, if simple things aren’t cutting it then something complicated should do the trick right

Last I checked nuance isn’t synonym for complicated… what I mean is that we need to be looking at this issue nationally instead of as individual states.. the only real way out of this now is through a well targeted and delivered vax program in combination with a national quarantine program and a nationally agreed approach to localised lockdown.

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:27:36
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1776551
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

The one thing that Gladys did say was that people were not obeying stay at home directions. Now I know that this is virtually impossible but there are ways to make it more possible.

so what are these nuances that people suggest, we mean, if simple things aren’t cutting it then something complicated should do the trick right

Last I checked nuance isn’t synonym for complicated… what I mean is that we need to be looking at this issue nationally instead of as individual states.. the only real way out of this now is through a well targeted and delivered vax program in combination with a national quarantine program and a nationally agreed approach to localised lockdown.

To steal someone else’s tag-line:

I’ve dumped my old subtlety, and replaced it with a nuance.

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:28:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776552
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

The one thing that Gladys did say was that people were not obeying stay at home directions. Now I know that this is virtually impossible but there are ways to make it more possible.

so what are these nuances that people suggest, we mean, if simple things aren’t cutting it then something complicated should do the trick right

Last I checked nuance isn’t synonym for complicated… what I mean is that we need to be looking at this issue nationally instead of as individual states.. the only real way out of this now is through a well targeted and delivered vax program in combination with a national quarantine program and a nationally agreed approach to localised lockdown.


Was always the only way. Apart from stop all traffic in and out of Australia.

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:29:39
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1776554
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

The one thing that Gladys did say was that people were not obeying stay at home directions. Now I know that this is virtually impossible but there are ways to make it more possible.

so what are these nuances that people suggest, we mean, if simple things aren’t cutting it then something complicated should do the trick right

Last I checked nuance isn’t synonym for complicated… what I mean is that we need to be looking at this issue nationally instead of as individual states.. the only real way out of this now is through a well targeted and delivered vax program in combination with a national quarantine program and a nationally agreed approach to localised lockdown.

right now, NSW will get to their vax figure before everyone else and then open up more.. what we need to be doing is redistribute vaccine to help the states that are behind on vax rates to catch up so that we can all arrive at the finish line at the same time.

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:30:52
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1776555
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

roughbarked said:


diddly-squat said:

SCIENCE said:

so what are these nuances that people suggest, we mean, if simple things aren’t cutting it then something complicated should do the trick right

Last I checked nuance isn’t synonym for complicated… what I mean is that we need to be looking at this issue nationally instead of as individual states.. the only real way out of this now is through a well targeted and delivered vax program in combination with a national quarantine program and a nationally agreed approach to localised lockdown.


Was always the only way. Apart from stop all traffic in and out of Australia.

which has been the case for more than a year now .. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:35:54
From: Thomo
ID: 1776557
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

>>>right now, NSW will get to their vax figure before everyone else and then open up more.. what we need to be doing is redistribute vaccine to help the states that are behind on vax rates to catch up so that we can all arrive at the finish line at the same time.<<<

Whats wrong with the thinking that you concentrate vacs to areas that have high infection rates , so as to maximize the slowing of spread ?

Brett

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:36:53
From: Arts
ID: 1776558
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:


SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

The one thing that Gladys did say was that people were not obeying stay at home directions. Now I know that this is virtually impossible but there are ways to make it more possible.

so what are these nuances that people suggest, we mean, if simple things aren’t cutting it then something complicated should do the trick right

Last I checked nuance isn’t synonym for complicated… what I mean is that we need to be looking at this issue nationally instead of as individual states.. the only real way out of this now is through a well targeted and delivered vax program in combination with a national quarantine program and a nationally agreed approach to localised lockdown.

BWahahahahaha. I like your optimism

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:42:05
From: dv
ID: 1776563
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Ms Berejiklian has given her strongest indication yet that some of her state’s COVID-19 lockdown restrictions will be eased later this month. 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/nsw-records-344-new-covid-19-cases/100366832

Lol goodo.

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:43:08
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1776566
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Thomo said:


>>>right now, NSW will get to their vax figure before everyone else and then open up more.. what we need to be doing is redistribute vaccine to help the states that are behind on vax rates to catch up so that we can all arrive at the finish line at the same time.<<<

Whats wrong with the thinking that you concentrate vacs to areas that have high infection rates , so as to maximize the slowing of spread ?

Brett

nothing as long as you understand that easing of restrictions needs to be a national thing and not a state thing.. having NSW get to 70% or 80% a month or 6 weeks ahead of every other state does fuck all good nationally…

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:44:24
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1776569
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Arts said:


diddly-squat said:

SCIENCE said:

so what are these nuances that people suggest, we mean, if simple things aren’t cutting it then something complicated should do the trick right

Last I checked nuance isn’t synonym for complicated… what I mean is that we need to be looking at this issue nationally instead of as individual states.. the only real way out of this now is through a well targeted and delivered vax program in combination with a national quarantine program and a nationally agreed approach to localised lockdown.

BWahahahahaha. I like your optimism

I said it’s what we need to be doing, not what I think will happen..

you WA laggards and us here in QLD are part of the underlying problem… vax rates are far too low in both states.

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:45:32
From: Arts
ID: 1776572
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:


Arts said:

diddly-squat said:

Last I checked nuance isn’t synonym for complicated… what I mean is that we need to be looking at this issue nationally instead of as individual states.. the only real way out of this now is through a well targeted and delivered vax program in combination with a national quarantine program and a nationally agreed approach to localised lockdown.

BWahahahahaha. I like your optimism

I said it’s what we need to be doing, not what I think will happen..

you WA laggards and us here in QLD are part of the underlying problem… vax rates are far too low in both states.

I curse the day WA and QLD are put in the same basket.

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:47:52
From: Michael V
ID: 1776574
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Thomo said:


>>>right now, NSW will get to their vax figure before everyone else and then open up more.. what we need to be doing is redistribute vaccine to help the states that are behind on vax rates to catch up so that we can all arrive at the finish line at the same time.<<<

Whats wrong with the thinking that you concentrate vacs to areas that have high infection rates , so as to maximize the slowing of spread ?

Brett

The protection from vaccination is not immediate.

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:49:55
From: transition
ID: 1776575
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:


Thomo said:

>>>right now, NSW will get to their vax figure before everyone else and then open up more.. what we need to be doing is redistribute vaccine to help the states that are behind on vax rates to catch up so that we can all arrive at the finish line at the same time.<<<

Whats wrong with the thinking that you concentrate vacs to areas that have high infection rates , so as to maximize the slowing of spread ?

Brett

nothing as long as you understand that easing of restrictions needs to be a national thing and not a state thing.. having NSW get to 70% or 80% a month or 6 weeks ahead of every other state does fuck all good nationally…

last time I heard the NSW premier was keen to release the biohazard when inoculation got to 50%, in that State, if I heard right

apparently the derrrr in contagious also, going on the medias contribution for months previous

they want to release the contagion, they are near having organisms about it escaping, well that’s my perspective

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Date: 11/08/2021 11:50:18
From: Michael V
ID: 1776576
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:


Arts said:

diddly-squat said:

Last I checked nuance isn’t synonym for complicated… what I mean is that we need to be looking at this issue nationally instead of as individual states.. the only real way out of this now is through a well targeted and delivered vax program in combination with a national quarantine program and a nationally agreed approach to localised lockdown.

BWahahahahaha. I like your optimism

I said it’s what we need to be doing, not what I think will happen..

you WA laggards and us here in QLD are part of the underlying problem… vax rates are far too low in both states.

Availability…

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Date: 11/08/2021 12:10:28
From: Michael V
ID: 1776581
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

transition said:


diddly-squat said:

Thomo said:

>>>right now, NSW will get to their vax figure before everyone else and then open up more.. what we need to be doing is redistribute vaccine to help the states that are behind on vax rates to catch up so that we can all arrive at the finish line at the same time.<<<

Whats wrong with the thinking that you concentrate vacs to areas that have high infection rates , so as to maximize the slowing of spread ?

Brett

nothing as long as you understand that easing of restrictions needs to be a national thing and not a state thing.. having NSW get to 70% or 80% a month or 6 weeks ahead of every other state does fuck all good nationally…

last time I heard the NSW premier was keen to release the biohazard when inoculation got to 50%, in that State, if I heard right

apparently the derrrr in contagious also, going on the medias contribution for months previous

they want to release the contagion, they are near having organisms about it escaping, well that’s my perspective

Today, she said 6 million vaccinated, out of 8.1 million. That is 74%.

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Date: 11/08/2021 12:21:12
From: transition
ID: 1776584
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


transition said:

diddly-squat said:

nothing as long as you understand that easing of restrictions needs to be a national thing and not a state thing.. having NSW get to 70% or 80% a month or 6 weeks ahead of every other state does fuck all good nationally…

last time I heard the NSW premier was keen to release the biohazard when inoculation got to 50%, in that State, if I heard right

apparently the derrrr in contagious also, going on the medias contribution for months previous

they want to release the contagion, they are near having organisms about it escaping, well that’s my perspective

Today, she said 6 million vaccinated, out of 8.1 million. That is 74%.

that for fully vaccinated?

anyway, i’ll say it emerged in australia there are quite a few that come near qualifying as bioterrorists in my opinion, have contributed to weakening the resolve for the objective of elimination

you can be sure now, the bioterrorists are adjusting the language to render any area, State or whatever, inconvenient, any example of elimination working

just down the track SA, WA, NT, new zealand, they’ll all become inconvenient, because the money wants the planes flying across the skies again, landing wherever largely unimpeded

covid egalitarianism, it’s the latest thing

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Date: 11/08/2021 12:23:30
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1776587
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


diddly-squat said:

Arts said:

BWahahahahaha. I like your optimism

I said it’s what we need to be doing, not what I think will happen..

you WA laggards and us here in QLD are part of the underlying problem… vax rates are far too low in both states.

Availability…

yeah.. no

we have AZ up the wah-zoo .. the notion we don’t have sufficient vaccine it complete bulshit

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Date: 11/08/2021 12:24:57
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1776590
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Arts said:


diddly-squat said:

Arts said:

BWahahahahaha. I like your optimism

I said it’s what we need to be doing, not what I think will happen..

you WA laggards and us here in QLD are part of the underlying problem… vax rates are far too low in both states.

I curse the day WA and QLD are put in the same basket.

I agree, It’s a sad state of affairs indeed.. yet here we are…

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Date: 11/08/2021 12:29:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1776597
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:


Michael V said:

diddly-squat said:

I said it’s what we need to be doing, not what I think will happen..

you WA laggards and us here in QLD are part of the underlying problem… vax rates are far too low in both states.

Availability…

yeah.. no

we have AZ up the wah-zoo .. the notion we don’t have sufficient vaccine it complete bulshit

Really?

They injected mine in my arm.

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Date: 11/08/2021 12:34:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776601
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

The Rev Dodgson said:


diddly-squat said:

Michael V said:

Availability…

yeah.. no

we have AZ up the wah-zoo .. the notion we don’t have sufficient vaccine it complete bulshit

Really?

They injected mine in my arm.


Mine as well.

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Date: 11/08/2021 12:45:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776604
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/qld-health-exposure-site-venue-list-contact-tracing-cairns/100358398
Bunnings is up there.

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Date: 11/08/2021 12:57:12
From: dv
ID: 1776611
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

During a parliamentary inquiry on Tuesday, a fiery Mr Hazzard butted heads with committee members as he and Dr Chant were questioned over the management of the state’s growing COVID-19 outbreak.

The committee, made up of Opposition and Greens MPs, asked Dr Chant to provide the precise date she first gave Mr Hazzard advice about locking down Greater Sydney.

Dr Chant said the formal advice to lock down the region was provided in writing to the NSW crisis cabinet on June 25, the same day stay-at-home orders were announced.

But when asked to publicly provide the documents the Health Minister strongly shut down the request.

“I’ll answer that because obviously those issues go to crisis cabinet, which is a subcommittee of cabinet. But Dr Chant is under oath, and she’s giving you the evidence, which is quite clear, so she won’t be providing any documents,” Mr Hazzard said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-10/brad-hazzard-refuses-to-make-covid-health-advice-public/100365386

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:00:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1776613
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Dr Chant and Mr Hazzard, who named these characters.

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:09:52
From: Arts
ID: 1776616
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:


Michael V said:

diddly-squat said:

I said it’s what we need to be doing, not what I think will happen..

you WA laggards and us here in QLD are part of the underlying problem… vax rates are far too low in both states.

Availability…

yeah.. no

we have AZ up the wah-zoo .. the notion we don’t have sufficient vaccine it complete bulshit

who is ‘we’? because it’s pretty difficult to get an appointment here, it’s not the clinic not having time, it’s the clinic not having supply.. so someone is squirrelling it away, probably those dirty SAliens

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:10:57
From: dv
ID: 1776617
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:


Arts said:

diddly-squat said:

I said it’s what we need to be doing, not what I think will happen..

you WA laggards and us here in QLD are part of the underlying problem… vax rates are far too low in both states.

I curse the day WA and QLD are put in the same basket.

I agree, It’s a sad state of affairs indeed.. yet here we are…

In the fair dinkum department there’s not much in it. Vaccination rates are similar between the states, though ACT is significantly ahead.

On a positive now the rate at which people are joining the fully vaccinated club appears to be increasing. 1.25 million in the 2 weeks to 8 August, compared to 1.02 million in the previous 2 weeks.

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:11:12
From: Arts
ID: 1776618
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

roughbarked said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/qld-health-exposure-site-venue-list-contact-tracing-cairns/100358398
Bunnings is up there.

remember when we used the word Bunnings as a euphemism for the word ‘fucked’? we may have all been way ahead of our time

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:12:54
From: dv
ID: 1776619
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

The family that travelled up to Byron Bay and caused the infection cluster are from Rose Bay

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:13:42
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1776620
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Arts said:


diddly-squat said:

Michael V said:

Availability…

yeah.. no

we have AZ up the wah-zoo .. the notion we don’t have sufficient vaccine it complete bulshit

who is ‘we’? because it’s pretty difficult to get an appointment here, it’s not the clinic not having time, it’s the clinic not having supply.. so someone is squirrelling it away, probably those dirty SAliens

really.. I know here you can go to your GP and get a AZ shot without much of an issue at all…

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:14:06
From: Arts
ID: 1776621
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

dv said:


diddly-squat said:

Arts said:

I curse the day WA and QLD are put in the same basket.

I agree, It’s a sad state of affairs indeed.. yet here we are…

In the fair dinkum department there’s not much in it. Vaccination rates are similar between the states, though ACT is significantly ahead.

On a positive now the rate at which people are joining the fully vaccinated club appears to be increasing. 1.25 million in the 2 weeks to 8 August, compared to 1.02 million in the previous 2 weeks.

I like those number separators.. if I go and get my first dose before November, then my second dose after I will be in two categories.

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:14:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1776622
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/qld-health-exposure-site-venue-list-contact-tracing-cairns/100358398
Bunnings is up there.

remember when we used the word Bunnings as a euphemism for the word ‘fucked’? we may have all been way ahead of our time

Geoff D was a prophet.

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:17:44
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1776623
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

dv said:


diddly-squat said:

Arts said:

I curse the day WA and QLD are put in the same basket.

I agree, It’s a sad state of affairs indeed.. yet here we are…

In the fair dinkum department there’s not much in it. Vaccination rates are similar between the states, though ACT is significantly ahead.

On a positive now the rate at which people are joining the fully vaccinated club appears to be increasing. 1.25 million in the 2 weeks to 8 August, compared to 1.02 million in the previous 2 weeks.

That’s a great chart… where is it from?

I was referring to this plot.. Casey Briggs it was on Casey Brigs’ twitter

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:28:47
From: dv
ID: 1776625
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Bubblecar said:


Dr Chant and Mr Hazzard, who named these characters.

Bit on the nose.

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:28:55
From: buffy
ID: 1776626
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Arts said:


diddly-squat said:

Michael V said:

Availability…

yeah.. no

we have AZ up the wah-zoo .. the notion we don’t have sufficient vaccine it complete bulshit

who is ‘we’? because it’s pretty difficult to get an appointment here, it’s not the clinic not having time, it’s the clinic not having supply.. so someone is squirrelling it away, probably those dirty SAliens

Same here. And where MV is. You have to go on a waiting list and get called when supplies come in.

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:29:55
From: dv
ID: 1776628
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:


dv said:

diddly-squat said:

I agree, It’s a sad state of affairs indeed.. yet here we are…

In the fair dinkum department there’s not much in it. Vaccination rates are similar between the states, though ACT is significantly ahead.

On a positive now the rate at which people are joining the fully vaccinated club appears to be increasing. 1.25 million in the 2 weeks to 8 August, compared to 1.02 million in the previous 2 weeks.

That’s a great chart… where is it from?

I was referring to this plot.. Casey Briggs it was on Casey Brigs’ twitter

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/australias-covid-19-vaccine-rollout

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:30:25
From: Boris
ID: 1776629
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw-is-almost-certainly-on-the-precipice-of-a-massive-deterioration-20210809-p58h9w.html

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:30:49
From: buffy
ID: 1776630
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

dv said:


diddly-squat said:

Arts said:

I curse the day WA and QLD are put in the same basket.

I agree, It’s a sad state of affairs indeed.. yet here we are…

In the fair dinkum department there’s not much in it. Vaccination rates are similar between the states, though ACT is significantly ahead.

On a positive now the rate at which people are joining the fully vaccinated club appears to be increasing. 1.25 million in the 2 weeks to 8 August, compared to 1.02 million in the previous 2 weeks.

The fully vaccinated is increasing because all of us who started with the AZ right back at the beginning, before people kept changing parameters, are reaching our 12 weeks and getting the second dose.

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:32:28
From: dv
ID: 1776631
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Arts said:


diddly-squat said:

Michael V said:

Availability…

yeah.. no

we have AZ up the wah-zoo .. the notion we don’t have sufficient vaccine it complete bulshit

who is ‘we’? because it’s pretty difficult to get an appointment here, it’s not the clinic not having time, it’s the clinic not having supply.. so someone is squirrelling it away, probably those dirty SAliens

I didn’t have any trouble booking for the Pfizer.

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:33:02
From: Boris
ID: 1776632
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

dv said:

On a positive now the rate at which people are joining the fully vaccinated club appears to be increasing.

36 days to go.

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:33:13
From: buffy
ID: 1776633
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Mr buffy is snickering:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/alleged-police-horse-puncher-was-animal-lover-sydney-court-hears/100367468

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:36:08
From: buffy
ID: 1776634
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


Mr buffy is snickering:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/alleged-police-horse-puncher-was-animal-lover-sydney-court-hears/100367468

And he’s been told he must comply with the health orders. I predict he will break his bail quite quickly.

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:36:20
From: dv
ID: 1776635
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


Mr buffy is snickering:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/alleged-police-horse-puncher-was-animal-lover-sydney-court-hears/100367468

We always hurt the one we love

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:40:15
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1776636
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

And now Spocky & I both have our 2nd jab.
Whew!

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:45:22
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1776638
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Spiny Norman said:


And now Spocky & I both have our 2nd jab.
Whew!

Did you get certified?

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:49:43
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1776640
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Peak Warming Man said:


Spiny Norman said:

And now Spocky & I both have our 2nd jab.
Whew!

Did you get certified?

For many things!
No doubt this as well.

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:51:30
From: buffy
ID: 1776641
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Spiny Norman said:


And now Spocky & I both have our 2nd jab.
Whew!

Mr buffy is booked for next week for his 2nd and I’m not due until September.

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Date: 11/08/2021 13:57:21
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1776646
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


Spiny Norman said:

And now Spocky & I both have our 2nd jab.
Whew!

Mr buffy is booked for next week for his 2nd and I’m not due until September.

If you can get the Pfizer vaccines I’d highly recommend that.

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:04:38
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1776648
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Spiny Norman said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Spiny Norman said:

And now Spocky & I both have our 2nd jab.
Whew!

Did you get certified?

For many things!
No doubt this as well.

Make sure it goes on your record so that you can prove you are fully vaccinated.
In the future you may need to show proof that you are fully vaccinated to go to the pictures or tent revival meetings and the like.

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:08:55
From: Arts
ID: 1776650
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Spiny Norman said:


buffy said:

Spiny Norman said:

And now Spocky & I both have our 2nd jab.
Whew!

Mr buffy is booked for next week for his 2nd and I’m not due until September.

If you can get the Pfizer vaccines I’d highly recommend that.

does it make you smarter?

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:11:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776652
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Arts said:


Spiny Norman said:

buffy said:

Mr buffy is booked for next week for his 2nd and I’m not due until September.

If you can get the Pfizer vaccines I’d highly recommend that.

does it make you smarter?

it wears off in 4 months

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:22:45
From: Boris
ID: 1776658
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/10/delta-variant-renders-herd-immunity-from-covid-mythical

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:33:44
From: buffy
ID: 1776663
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Spiny Norman said:


buffy said:

Spiny Norman said:

And now Spocky & I both have our 2nd jab.
Whew!

Mr buffy is booked for next week for his 2nd and I’m not due until September.

If you can get the Pfizer vaccines I’d highly recommend that.

We are old and we’ve begun with AZ. Nothing wrong with AZ. I took the contraceptive pill for 10 years, I took a bigger clotting risk then.

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:40:10
From: transition
ID: 1776667
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


Spiny Norman said:

buffy said:

Mr buffy is booked for next week for his 2nd and I’m not due until September.

If you can get the Pfizer vaccines I’d highly recommend that.

We are old and we’ve begun with AZ. Nothing wrong with AZ. I took the contraceptive pill for 10 years, I took a bigger clotting risk then.

nobody knows what the individual risk is from whatever, vaccine etc examples, it can’t be got from statistics of adverse reactions

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:43:30
From: Michael V
ID: 1776670
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

diddly-squat said:


Michael V said:

diddly-squat said:

I said it’s what we need to be doing, not what I think will happen..

you WA laggards and us here in QLD are part of the underlying problem… vax rates are far too low in both states.

Availability…

yeah.. no

we have AZ up the wah-zoo .. the notion we don’t have sufficient vaccine it complete bulshit

Our first two appointments for vaccination were cancelled, because the GP did not receive the supplies ordered.

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:48:16
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1776671
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


Spiny Norman said:

buffy said:

Mr buffy is booked for next week for his 2nd and I’m not due until September.

If you can get the Pfizer vaccines I’d highly recommend that.

We are old and we’ve begun with AZ. Nothing wrong with AZ. I took the contraceptive pill for 10 years, I took a bigger clotting risk then.

Completely different type of clot formation and risk.

Still nothing ‘wrong’ with AZ as such.

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:48:53
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1776672
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


diddly-squat said:

Michael V said:

Availability…

yeah.. no

we have AZ up the wah-zoo .. the notion we don’t have sufficient vaccine it complete bulshit

Our first two appointments for vaccination were cancelled, because the GP did not receive the supplies ordered.

I’ve got a hundred of them in my fridge if you want a shot…

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:50:42
From: buffy
ID: 1776673
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


buffy said:

Spiny Norman said:

If you can get the Pfizer vaccines I’d highly recommend that.

We are old and we’ve begun with AZ. Nothing wrong with AZ. I took the contraceptive pill for 10 years, I took a bigger clotting risk then.

Completely different type of clot formation and risk.

Still nothing ‘wrong’ with AZ as such.

Doesn’t matter. It was a risk I chose to take. I choose to take another one.

:)

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:51:09
From: buffy
ID: 1776674
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


Michael V said:

diddly-squat said:

yeah.. no

we have AZ up the wah-zoo .. the notion we don’t have sufficient vaccine it complete bulshit

Our first two appointments for vaccination were cancelled, because the GP did not receive the supplies ordered.

I’ve got a hundred of them in my fridge if you want a shot…

Well they aren’t doing any good sitting in your fridge!

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:52:36
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1776675
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


poikilotherm said:

Michael V said:

Our first two appointments for vaccination were cancelled, because the GP did not receive the supplies ordered.

I’ve got a hundred of them in my fridge if you want a shot…

Well they aren’t doing any good sitting in your fridge!

Indeed, clinic starts Monday, have to throw the vials out after 6 hours once punctured so trying to not be too wasteful with them as it attracts the wrath of the bureaucrats.

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:54:00
From: buffy
ID: 1776676
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


buffy said:

poikilotherm said:

I’ve got a hundred of them in my fridge if you want a shot…

Well they aren’t doing any good sitting in your fridge!

Indeed, clinic starts Monday, have to throw the vials out after 6 hours once punctured so trying to not be too wasteful with them as it attracts the wrath of the bureaucrats.

I hope you’ve notified all the locals to line up masked and distanced outside the shop from 8.30am…

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:55:34
From: Michael V
ID: 1776678
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Spiny Norman said:


And now Spocky & I both have our 2nd jab.
Whew!

:)

Excellent.

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:55:59
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1776679
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


poikilotherm said:

buffy said:

Well they aren’t doing any good sitting in your fridge!

Indeed, clinic starts Monday, have to throw the vials out after 6 hours once punctured so trying to not be too wasteful with them as it attracts the wrath of the bureaucrats.

I hope you’ve notified all the locals to line up masked and distanced outside the shop from 8.30am…

Not yet, the stock wasn’t meant to turn up until the 20th, so it’s kinda of fucked our planning up on that front.

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Date: 11/08/2021 14:58:18
From: Michael V
ID: 1776681
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


Michael V said:

diddly-squat said:

yeah.. no

we have AZ up the wah-zoo .. the notion we don’t have sufficient vaccine it complete bulshit

Our first two appointments for vaccination were cancelled, because the GP did not receive the supplies ordered.

I’ve got a hundred of them in my fridge if you want a shot…

Bit of a drive…

But thanks for the offer.

Second shot is booked in for a month’s time.

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Date: 11/08/2021 15:00:44
From: buffy
ID: 1776684
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


buffy said:

poikilotherm said:

Indeed, clinic starts Monday, have to throw the vials out after 6 hours once punctured so trying to not be too wasteful with them as it attracts the wrath of the bureaucrats.

I hope you’ve notified all the locals to line up masked and distanced outside the shop from 8.30am…

Not yet, the stock wasn’t meant to turn up until the 20th, so it’s kinda of fucked our planning up on that front.

So organized!

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Date: 11/08/2021 15:12:07
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1776686
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

POSITIVE COVID-19 CASE AT BATHURST PRISON

Hope they’re in lockdown…

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Date: 11/08/2021 15:14:47
From: Michael V
ID: 1776688
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


POSITIVE COVID-19 CASE AT BATHURST PRISON

Hope they’re in lockdown…

Snigger.

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Date: 11/08/2021 15:17:33
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1776689
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


poikilotherm said:

POSITIVE COVID-19 CASE AT BATHURST PRISON

Hope they’re in lockdown…

Snigger.

On further inspection…they were let out on bail. :/

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Date: 11/08/2021 15:25:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776690
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

POSITIVE COVID-19 CASE AT BATHURST PRISON

Hope they’re in lockdown…

Snigger.

On further inspection…they were let out on bail. :/

ouch. Maybe this means they get hoome detention?

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Date: 11/08/2021 15:30:17
From: Michael V
ID: 1776692
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

POSITIVE COVID-19 CASE AT BATHURST PRISON

Hope they’re in lockdown…

Snigger.

On further inspection…they were let out on bail. :/

Doesn’t sound great.

Do you have a reference?

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Date: 11/08/2021 15:31:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776693
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


buffy said:

Spiny Norman said:

If you can get the Pfizer vaccines I’d highly recommend that.

We are old and we’ve begun with AZ. Nothing wrong with AZ. I took the contraceptive pill for 10 years, I took a bigger clotting risk then.

Completely different type of clot formation and risk.

Still nothing ‘wrong’ with AZ as such.


It seems to not have any side effects for most.

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Date: 11/08/2021 15:38:51
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776699
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

roughbarked said:


poikilotherm said:

Michael V said:

Snigger.

On further inspection…they were let out on bail. :/

ouch. Maybe this means they get hoome detention?

¿ so the gutless are still playing at the “we wait until it’s arrived before we impose restrictions” game then ?

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Date: 11/08/2021 15:40:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776700
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


roughbarked said:

poikilotherm said:

On further inspection…they were let out on bail. :/

ouch. Maybe this means they get hoome detention?

¿ so the gutless are still playing at the “we wait until it’s arrived before we impose restrictions” game then ?

Seems so.

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Date: 11/08/2021 15:45:26
From: Woodie
ID: 1776703
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Police charge Sydney man who sparked COVID-19 lockdown in Byron Bay

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/police-to-charge-sydney-man-who-sparked-byron-bay-covid-lockdown/100368176

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Date: 11/08/2021 15:49:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776704
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Woodie said:


Police charge Sydney man who sparked COVID-19 lockdown in Byron Bay

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/police-to-charge-sydney-man-who-sparked-byron-bay-covid-lockdown/100368176

¿ so the gutless are still playing at the “instead of stopping bad things we tempt you by letting you do something dodgy and then we’ll charge you” game then ?

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Date: 11/08/2021 15:52:07
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1776705
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

transition said:


buffy said:

Spiny Norman said:

If you can get the Pfizer vaccines I’d highly recommend that.

We are old and we’ve begun with AZ. Nothing wrong with AZ. I took the contraceptive pill for 10 years, I took a bigger clotting risk then.

nobody knows what the individual risk is from whatever, vaccine etc examples, it can’t be got from statistics of adverse reactions

Eh?

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Date: 11/08/2021 15:55:24
From: dv
ID: 1776706
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


POSITIVE COVID-19 CASE AT BATHURST PRISON

Hope they’re in lockdown…

Heh

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Date: 11/08/2021 16:00:01
From: Woodie
ID: 1776712
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Woodie said:

Police charge Sydney man who sparked COVID-19 lockdown in Byron Bay

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/police-to-charge-sydney-man-who-sparked-byron-bay-covid-lockdown/100368176

¿ so the gutless are still playing at the “instead of stopping bad things we tempt you by letting you do something dodgy and then we’ll charge you” game then ?

and that’s the story he’s sticking to, apparently.

**“NSW Police are investigating whether Mr Radovanovic had been looking at real estate in the area.

Under the public health orders, people are allowed to travel to inspect “a potential new place of residence”.**

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Date: 11/08/2021 16:38:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776715
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

shrug we guess this is the no lockdown but focused protection strategy hard at work then shrug

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Date: 11/08/2021 16:52:04
From: Michael V
ID: 1776717
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

A person currently in Walgett has tested positive for COVID-19.

The person was tested on 7 August, returning a positive result today. They are considered to have potentially been infectious from 5 August.

The person is also known to have been in Dubbo and Bathurst during their infectious period.

……………………………………………………………………………………..

Another worrying spread into country NSW. Note: Walgett has two satellite Aboriginal Communities.

…………………………………………………………………………………….

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney/100366272

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Date: 11/08/2021 17:00:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776718
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:

A person currently in Walgett has tested positive for COVID-19.

The person was tested on 7 August, returning a positive result today. They are considered to have potentially been infectious from 5 August.

The person is also known to have been in Dubbo and Bathurst during their infectious period.

Another worrying spread into country NSW. Note: Walgett has two satellite Aboriginal Communities.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney/100366272

one. focused protection laugh out loud

two. four days to get a result what the fuck

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Date: 11/08/2021 17:01:24
From: Michael V
ID: 1776719
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


A person currently in Walgett has tested positive for COVID-19.

The person was tested on 7 August, returning a positive result today. They are considered to have potentially been infectious from 5 August.

The person is also known to have been in Dubbo and Bathurst during their infectious period.

……………………………………………………………………………………..

Another worrying spread into country NSW. Note: Walgett has two satellite Aboriginal Communities.

…………………………………………………………………………………….

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney/100366272

Bathurst jail has been placed into precautionary lockdown after a prisoner who was in custody over the weekend tested positive to COVID-19.

Corrective Services says the positive case is a 27-year-old inmate who arrived at the centre on Saturday before being granted bail and released on Monday.

A number of inmates have been placed into isolation as a result, while contact tracers work to determine how many staff are close contacts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

(Poik posted this information earlier.)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney/100366272

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Date: 11/08/2021 17:04:07
From: Michael V
ID: 1776720
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

A person currently in Walgett has tested positive for COVID-19.

The person was tested on 7 August, returning a positive result today. They are considered to have potentially been infectious from 5 August.

The person is also known to have been in Dubbo and Bathurst during their infectious period.

Another worrying spread into country NSW. Note: Walgett has two satellite Aboriginal Communities.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney/100366272

one. focused protection laugh out loud

two. four days to get a result what the fuck

It’s Walgett.

For instance: When I lived there (1970’s) they used to bring milk up from Dubbo in cartons on the back of an open, unrefrigerated truck.

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Date: 11/08/2021 17:15:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776722
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

A person currently in Walgett has tested positive for COVID-19.

The person was tested on 7 August, returning a positive result today. They are considered to have potentially been infectious from 5 August.

The person is also known to have been in Dubbo and Bathurst during their infectious period.

Another worrying spread into country NSW. Note: Walgett has two satellite Aboriginal Communities.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney/100366272

one. focused protection laugh out loud

two. four days to get a result what the fuck

It’s Walgett.

For instance: When I lived there (1970’s) they used to bring milk up from Dubbo in cartons on the back of an open, unrefrigerated truck.

fair call we’re not that up on NSW regions but damn you’d think if the state were serious about controlling a pandemic they’d 1 protect vulnerable better and 2 increase service provision in times of need

completely separately we know some teachers in NSW (obviously, we mean, we teach SCIENCE) so talking about all that online learning and stuff damn that NBN Great Success totally paid off this year

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Date: 11/08/2021 17:22:04
From: Speedy
ID: 1776724
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

A person currently in Walgett has tested positive for COVID-19.

The person was tested on 7 August, returning a positive result today. They are considered to have potentially been infectious from 5 August.

The person is also known to have been in Dubbo and Bathurst during their infectious period.

Another worrying spread into country NSW. Note: Walgett has two satellite Aboriginal Communities.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney/100366272

one. focused protection laugh out loud

two. four days to get a result what the fuck

It’s Walgett.

+1, but it’s 3 hours by road to Dubbo, where I imagine the nearest testing facility is. A sample would only need a one-way trip, so let’s say it leaves next-day (day 2). That’s still a 3-day turn-around for a result. That’s not good at all.

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Date: 11/08/2021 17:34:20
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1776728
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

A person currently in Walgett has tested positive for COVID-19.

The person was tested on 7 August, returning a positive result today. They are considered to have potentially been infectious from 5 August.

The person is also known to have been in Dubbo and Bathurst during their infectious period.

Another worrying spread into country NSW. Note: Walgett has two satellite Aboriginal Communities.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney/100366272

one. focused protection laugh out loud

two. four days to get a result what the fuck

It’s Walgett.

For instance: When I lived there (1970’s) they used to bring milk up from Dubbo in cartons on the back of an open, unrefrigerated truck.

They’ve got fridges now, but it’s still probably as bad as you remember it.

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Date: 11/08/2021 17:37:00
From: Michael V
ID: 1776730
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

one. focused protection laugh out loud

two. four days to get a result what the fuck

It’s Walgett.

For instance: When I lived there (1970’s) they used to bring milk up from Dubbo in cartons on the back of an open, unrefrigerated truck.

They’ve got fridges now, but it’s still probably as bad as you remember it.

I had a fridge when I was there. As I understand it, Walgett is pretty much just as bad as it was.

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Date: 11/08/2021 17:40:09
From: Michael V
ID: 1776731
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

A person currently in Walgett has tested positive for COVID-19.

The person was tested on 7 August, returning a positive result today. They are considered to have potentially been infectious from 5 August.

The person is also known to have been in Dubbo and Bathurst during their infectious period.

……………………………………………………………………………………..

Another worrying spread into country NSW. Note: Walgett has two satellite Aboriginal Communities.

…………………………………………………………………………………….

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney/100366272

Bathurst jail has been placed into precautionary lockdown after a prisoner who was in custody over the weekend tested positive to COVID-19.

Corrective Services says the positive case is a 27-year-old inmate who arrived at the centre on Saturday before being granted bail and released on Monday.

A number of inmates have been placed into isolation as a result, while contact tracers work to determine how many staff are close contacts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

(Poik posted this information earlier.)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney/100366272

The Walgett case is the Bathurst Jail case…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/covid-case-walgett-dubbo-bathurst-jail-lockdown/100369258

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Date: 11/08/2021 17:41:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776732
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

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Date: 11/08/2021 17:44:14
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1776733
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:



all teachers in NSW have been offered the appropriate vaccine for their age…it’s just…you can’t book in to get it in some jurisdictions.

*swmbo teaches…or principals, whatevs.

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Date: 11/08/2021 17:44:18
From: Boris
ID: 1776734
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:



https://greekherald.com.au/news/australia/teachers-elite-sydney-schools-use-private-pfizer-hubs-those-hotspots-remain-risk/

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Date: 11/08/2021 18:01:52
From: Michael V
ID: 1776738
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Speedy said:


Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

one. focused protection laugh out loud

two. four days to get a result what the fuck

It’s Walgett.

+1, but it’s 3 hours by road to Dubbo, where I imagine the nearest testing facility is. A sample would only need a one-way trip, so let’s say it leaves next-day (day 2). That’s still a 3-day turn-around for a result. That’s not good at all.

He was tested on Saturday at Bathurst Jail, apparently.

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Date: 11/08/2021 18:06:42
From: Boris
ID: 1776739
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


Speedy said:

Michael V said:

It’s Walgett.

+1, but it’s 3 hours by road to Dubbo, where I imagine the nearest testing facility is. A sample would only need a one-way trip, so let’s say it leaves next-day (day 2). That’s still a 3-day turn-around for a result. That’s not good at all.

He was tested on Saturday at Bathurst Jail, apparently.

was he found wanting?

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Date: 11/08/2021 18:16:32
From: Michael V
ID: 1776740
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Boris said:


Michael V said:

Speedy said:

+1, but it’s 3 hours by road to Dubbo, where I imagine the nearest testing facility is. A sample would only need a one-way trip, so let’s say it leaves next-day (day 2). That’s still a 3-day turn-around for a result. That’s not good at all.

He was tested on Saturday at Bathurst Jail, apparently.

was he found wanting?

Well, the system was. I don’t know about him specifically.

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Date: 11/08/2021 18:26:16
From: Michael V
ID: 1776742
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

The Walgett Shire LGA in western New South Wales will go into lockdown from 7:00pm tonight.

The stay-at-home orders are likely to be in place for a week.

The decision was made after a positive case in the area lead to several close contacts being identified.

—————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-11/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney/100366272

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Date: 11/08/2021 19:13:58
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1776765
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

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Date: 11/08/2021 19:19:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1776767
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Authorities in northern Germany have appealed to thousands of people to get another shot of Covid vaccine after a police investigation found that a Red Cross nurse may have injected them with a saline solution.

The nurse is suspected of injecting salt solution into people’s arms instead of genuine doses at a vaccination centre in Friesland – a rural district near the North Sea coast – in the early spring. “I am totally shocked by this episode,” Sven Ambrosy, a local councillor, said on Facebook as local authorities issued the call on Tuesday to about 8,600 residents who may have been affected.

more

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/11/nurse-in-germany-suspected-of-replacing-covid-vaccines-with-saline-solution

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Date: 11/08/2021 19:26:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776769
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:


Authorities in northern Germany have appealed to thousands of people to get another shot of Covid vaccine after a police investigation found that a Red Cross nurse may have injected them with a saline solution.

The nurse is suspected of injecting salt solution into people’s arms instead of genuine doses at a vaccination centre in Friesland – a rural district near the North Sea coast – in the early spring. “I am totally shocked by this episode,” Sven Ambrosy, a local councillor, said on Facebook as local authorities issued the call on Tuesday to about 8,600 residents who may have been affected.

more

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/11/nurse-in-germany-suspected-of-replacing-covid-vaccines-with-saline-solution


gee büs.

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Date: 11/08/2021 19:30:02
From: Speedy
ID: 1776773
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

Authorities in northern Germany have appealed to thousands of people to get another shot of Covid vaccine after a police investigation found that a Red Cross nurse may have injected them with a saline solution.

The nurse is suspected of injecting salt solution into people’s arms instead of genuine doses at a vaccination centre in Friesland – a rural district near the North Sea coast – in the early spring. “I am totally shocked by this episode,” Sven Ambrosy, a local councillor, said on Facebook as local authorities issued the call on Tuesday to about 8,600 residents who may have been affected.

more

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/11/nurse-in-germany-suspected-of-replacing-covid-vaccines-with-saline-solution


gee büs.

It’s weird, but I will admit that when my second jab was almost painless, I wondered whether the nurse was hoarding a stash of Pfizer.

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Date: 11/08/2021 19:31:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1776775
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Speedy said:

It’s weird, but I will admit that when my second jab was almost painless, I wondered whether the nurse was hoarding a stash of Pfizer.

Nah, it’s just that she finally got around to changing the needle on the syringe. You were the lucky first one with that needle, when it was at its sharpest.

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Date: 11/08/2021 19:35:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776776
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Speedy said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

Authorities in northern Germany have appealed to thousands of people to get another shot of Covid vaccine after a police investigation found that a Red Cross nurse may have injected them with a saline solution.

The nurse is suspected of injecting salt solution into people’s arms instead of genuine doses at a vaccination centre in Friesland – a rural district near the North Sea coast – in the early spring. “I am totally shocked by this episode,” Sven Ambrosy, a local councillor, said on Facebook as local authorities issued the call on Tuesday to about 8,600 residents who may have been affected.

more

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/11/nurse-in-germany-suspected-of-replacing-covid-vaccines-with-saline-solution


gee büs.

It’s weird, but I will admit that when my second jab was almost painless, I wondered whether the nurse was hoarding a stash of Pfizer.


Injections have been painless ever since dentists stopped using nine inch nails.

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Date: 11/08/2021 19:38:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776777
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

captain_spalding said:


Speedy said:

It’s weird, but I will admit that when my second jab was almost painless, I wondered whether the nurse was hoarding a stash of Pfizer.

Nah, it’s just that she finally got around to changing the needle on the syringe. You were the lucky first one with that needle, when it was at its sharpest.

I dunno. prescription theorists now?

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Date: 11/08/2021 19:42:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1776779
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

roughbarked said:


captain_spalding said:

Speedy said:

It’s weird, but I will admit that when my second jab was almost painless, I wondered whether the nurse was hoarding a stash of Pfizer.

Nah, it’s just that she finally got around to changing the needle on the syringe. You were the lucky first one with that needle, when it was at its sharpest.

I dunno. prescription theorists now?

Perhaps it was just the mind-control nan0chip that you got with your first injection.

Bill Gates had told it to switch off your brain’s pain sensing for a bit.

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Date: 11/08/2021 19:44:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776780
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Nah, it’s just that she finally got around to changing the needle on the syringe. You were the lucky first one with that needle, when it was at its sharpest.

I dunno. prescription theorists now?

Perhaps it was just the mind-control nan0chip that you got with your first injection.

Bill Gates had told it to switch off your brain’s pain sensing for a bit.


You forget that Melinda had a say?

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Date: 11/08/2021 20:39:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776788
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:


Laugh Out Loud but don’t worry we’ve found a bigger bunch of crazies / whacked clowns and conspiracy theorists than we are

https://scitechdaily.com/public-health-experts-global-eradication-of-covid-19-is-probably-feasible/

Public Health Experts: Global Eradication of COVID-19 Is Probably Feasible

Global eradication of COVID-19 probably feasible, and more so than for polio, say public health experts.

The global eradication of COVID-19 is probably feasible, and more so than it is for polio, although considerably less so than it was for smallpox, suggests a comparative score of technical, sociopolitical, and economic factors for all three infections, published in the online journal BMJ Global Health.

“While our analysis is a preliminary effort, with various subjective components, it does seem to put COVID-19 eradicability into the realms of being possible, especially in terms of technical feasibility,” they write.

They acknowledge that relative to smallpox and polio, the technical challenges of COVID-19 eradication include poor vaccine acceptance, and the emergence of more highly transmissible variants that may evade immunity, potentially outrunning global vaccination programs.

“Nevertheless, there are of course limits to viral evolution, so we can expect the virus to eventually reach peak fitness, and new vaccines can be formulated,” they explain.

“Other challenges would be the high upfront costs (for vaccination and upgrading health systems), and achieving the necessary international cooperation in the face of ‘vaccine nationalism’ and government-mediated ‘antiscience aggression’,” they admit.

Reference: “We should not dismiss the possibility of eradicating COVID-19: comparisons with smallpox and polio” by Nick Wilson, Osman D Mansoor, Matthew J Boyd, Amanda Kvalsvig and Michael G Baker, 9 August 2021, BMJ Global Health. https://gh.bmj.com/content/6/8/e006810

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Date: 11/08/2021 20:45:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776793
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

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Date: 11/08/2021 20:46:23
From: transition
ID: 1776795
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


obviously this didn’t work


masters of convergent reality be working on that one, the inevitable inconvenience that will be, they are already sneaking their message into the aether, the borderless aether, talk of passports, passes whatever, they deviously make comparisons with countries where the contagion is largely wild, apply them to where there is none, and fairly much soon as you start talking about passes in that context the assumption is you’ll have wild covid regardless of whether you want it or not

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Date: 11/08/2021 20:49:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776796
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

transition said:


SCIENCE said:

obviously this didn’t work


masters of convergent reality be working on that one, the inevitable inconvenience that will be, they are already sneaking their message into the aether, the borderless aether, talk of passports, passes whatever, they deviously make comparisons with countries where the contagion is largely wild, apply them to where there is none, and fairly much soon as you start talking about passes in that context the assumption is you’ll have wild covid regardless of whether you want it or not


Just look after your sheep.

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Date: 11/08/2021 20:51:17
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1776797
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

roughbarked said:


transition said:

SCIENCE said:

obviously this didn’t work


masters of convergent reality be working on that one, the inevitable inconvenience that will be, they are already sneaking their message into the aether, the borderless aether, talk of passports, passes whatever, they deviously make comparisons with countries where the contagion is largely wild, apply them to where there is none, and fairly much soon as you start talking about passes in that context the assumption is you’ll have wild covid regardless of whether you want it or not


Just look after your sheep.

And stick with the anti-psychotics.

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Date: 11/08/2021 20:51:40
From: transition
ID: 1776798
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

roughbarked said:


transition said:

SCIENCE said:

obviously this didn’t work


masters of convergent reality be working on that one, the inevitable inconvenience that will be, they are already sneaking their message into the aether, the borderless aether, talk of passports, passes whatever, they deviously make comparisons with countries where the contagion is largely wild, apply them to where there is none, and fairly much soon as you start talking about passes in that context the assumption is you’ll have wild covid regardless of whether you want it or not


Just look after your sheep.

you being humorous or littering

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Date: 11/08/2021 20:52:45
From: party_pants
ID: 1776799
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

roughbarked said:


transition said:

SCIENCE said:

obviously this didn’t work


masters of convergent reality be working on that one, the inevitable inconvenience that will be, they are already sneaking their message into the aether, the borderless aether, talk of passports, passes whatever, they deviously make comparisons with countries where the contagion is largely wild, apply them to where there is none, and fairly much soon as you start talking about passes in that context the assumption is you’ll have wild covid regardless of whether you want it or not


Just look after your sheep.

my sheep will vote for me regardless.

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Date: 11/08/2021 21:00:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776800
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

transition said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

masters of convergent reality be working on that one, the inevitable inconvenience that will be, they are already sneaking their message into the aether, the borderless aether, talk of passports, passes whatever, they deviously make comparisons with countries where the contagion is largely wild, apply them to where there is none, and fairly much soon as you start talking about passes in that context the assumption is you’ll have wild covid regardless of whether you want it or not


Just look after your sheep.

you being humorous or littering


You know what sheepshit looks like?

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Date: 11/08/2021 21:07:14
From: transition
ID: 1776803
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

roughbarked said:


transition said:

roughbarked said:

Just look after your sheep.

you being humorous or littering


You know what sheepshit looks like?

littering I gather

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Date: 12/08/2021 08:29:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776866
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Ms Berejiklian said she didn’t want to see more LGAs subject to these rules but she needed to prevent cases “taking off” in the Inner West, Bayside and Burwood LGAs.

“ Health may very well say to government today, tomorrow or the next day, as a precaution we want you to lock down,” she said.

Chief health officer Kerry Chant said imposing tighter restrictions on the three LGAs would be more effective than a blanket approach for the whole of Greater Sydney.

“The community responds when we actually specifically tell them areas … we can target police resources.”

evidence based medicine at work

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Date: 12/08/2021 08:40:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776867
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Australia’s official COVID-19 health information translations are eight weeks out of date

In response to the ABC’s questions about the latest errors, a spokesman for the federal Health Department said there was a short delay in publishing updated advice, as all translated material had to be checked by a second person to minimise errors.

“An additional step of having a translation supplier review the documents once in preview on the website also occurs to ensure any technical issues that occur during the publishing process are addressed,” he said.

“These translations process can occasionally result in a short delay in publishing web content and resources, it is crucial that all information is accurate.”

Last year, the ABC revealed nonsensical language translations of COVID-19 public health messages were being distributed to multicultural communities and that the federal health department had used Google Translate for critical public health messages.

Gold.

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Date: 12/08/2021 08:45:13
From: Michael V
ID: 1776868
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

“Last night eight other council regions including the Bogan Shire, Bourke, Brewarrina, Coonamble, Gilgandra, Narromine, Walgett and Warren went into lockdown after a COVID positive case was detected in Walgett.

The geographical region makes up about a quarter of the state.

There are also concerns about the potential COVID outbreak among some vulnerable indigenous communities in those areas.”

——————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney-nsw/100369742

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Date: 12/08/2021 09:00:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1776869
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


“Last night eight other council regions including the Bogan Shire, Bourke, Brewarrina, Coonamble, Gilgandra, Narromine, Walgett and Warren went into lockdown after a COVID positive case was detected in Walgett.

The geographical region makes up about a quarter of the state.

There are also concerns about the potential COVID outbreak among some vulnerable indigenous communities in those areas.”

——————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney-nsw/100369742

It is getting crazier by the day.

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Date: 12/08/2021 10:12:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776880
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

“Last night eight other council regions including the Bogan Shire, Bourke, Brewarrina, Coonamble, Gilgandra, Narromine, Walgett and Warren went into lockdown after a COVID positive case was detected in Walgett.

The geographical region makes up about a quarter of the state.

There are also concerns about the potential COVID outbreak among some vulnerable indigenous communities in those areas.”

——————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney-nsw/100369742

It is getting crazier by the day.

“potential”

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Date: 12/08/2021 10:40:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776887
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

No Mince In These Words From Your ABC

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/queensland-coronavirus-delta-dodged-no-more-lockdown/100368922

Disease expert says quick response helped Queensland avoid high COVID-19 caseload

All of Queensland is now out of lockdown, with health authorities confident they have a handle on the state’s recent Delta outbreaks — a stark contrast to the situation in New South Wales.

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Date: 12/08/2021 10:56:31
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1776892
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/12/australian-conspiracy-theorists-and-anti-lockdown-groups-share-fake-covid-check-in-apps

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Date: 12/08/2021 10:59:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776893
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/12/australian-conspiracy-theorists-and-anti-lockdown-groups-share-fake-covid-check-in-apps

Geolocation data suggests the app is hosted by a Russian web address and is coded in a way that suggests the involvement of someone with professional web development skills or, at the least, a skilled amateur.

fk how hard is it to upload a picture of a tick mark sheesh

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Date: 12/08/2021 11:31:52
From: Michael V
ID: 1776900
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

NSW: 245 new cases. Two deaths. One, fully vaccinated; the other, one jab.

““Can I also acknowledge that yesterday New South Wales, we broke a record where 106,000 people were vaccinated. That is very encouraging.”“

————————————————————————————————

Look here: we can vaccinate our way out of this.

————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney-nsw/100369742

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Date: 12/08/2021 11:32:56
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1776901
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://theconversation.com/brad-hazzard-is-wrong-about-multicultural-western-sydney-new-research-shows-refugees-do-trust-institutions-165673

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Date: 12/08/2021 11:35:53
From: dv
ID: 1776904
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


NSW: 245 new cases.

The Abe is saying 345

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Date: 12/08/2021 11:48:39
From: Michael V
ID: 1776906
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

dv said:


Michael V said:

NSW: 245 new cases.

The Abe is saying 345

Sorry. Typo and poor proofreading.

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Date: 12/08/2021 11:49:21
From: Michael V
ID: 1776907
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


dv said:

Michael V said:

NSW: 245 new cases.

The Abe is saying 345

Sorry. Typo and poor proofreading.

And thanks for picking it up.

:)

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Date: 12/08/2021 11:54:08
From: Michael V
ID: 1776908
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

The ACT will go into lockdown for seven days from 5:00pm today, after the territory recorded a positive case of COVID-19 – over a year since the last locally acquired case.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/canberra-records-new-case-of-covid-19-sending-act-into-lockdown/100370616

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Date: 12/08/2021 12:25:31
From: buffy
ID: 1776915
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


The ACT will go into lockdown for seven days from 5:00pm today, after the territory recorded a positive case of COVID-19 – over a year since the last locally acquired case.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/canberra-records-new-case-of-covid-19-sending-act-into-lockdown/100370616

When did the pollies go back to Canberra?

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Date: 12/08/2021 13:00:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1776918
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


Michael V said:

The ACT will go into lockdown for seven days from 5:00pm today, after the territory recorded a positive case of COVID-19 – over a year since the last locally acquired case.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/canberra-records-new-case-of-covid-19-sending-act-into-lockdown/100370616

When did the pollies go back to Canberra?

I don’t know.

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Date: 12/08/2021 13:15:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776919
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

The ACT will go into lockdown for seven days from 5:00pm today, after the territory recorded a positive case of COVID-19 – over a year since the last locally acquired case.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/canberra-records-new-case-of-covid-19-sending-act-into-lockdown/100370616

When did the pollies go back to Canberra?

I don’t know.

but we know when the pandemic control finally got serious for the people in charge

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Date: 12/08/2021 13:17:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776920
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

VIC CHO Uses Innuendo Appropriate For The Rape Party Corruption Coalition To Describe NSW

Sutton said it appeared increasingly likely that the current outbreak, which began with two mystery cases in Hobsons Bay and the City of Maribyrnong, was linked to a fresh “incursion” from New South Wales.

“We had identified and linked every single case right up until the day we got zero new cases,” he told ABC Radio Melbourne.

“So to see these cases so soon after that and not to have a clear acquisition for them makes me think they’re separate.

“It does seem to me that it was a separate incursion … and that it had been dribbling along without being tested, without being identified until it exploded into a school and other areas.”

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Date: 12/08/2021 13:24:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776921
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

Michael V said:

NSW: 234 new cases.

The Ace is saying 345

Sorry. Typo and poor proofreading.

And thanks for picking it up.

:)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/nsw-records-345-covid-19-cases/100370274

Two men in their 90s with COVID have died. One of them had been fully vaccinated, the other had had one jab.

well it’s their own fault for choosing to be over 90,they were going to die soon anyway

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Date: 12/08/2021 13:26:25
From: transition
ID: 1776923
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Australia’s official COVID-19 health information translations are eight weeks out of date

In response to the ABC’s questions about the latest errors, a spokesman for the federal Health Department said there was a short delay in publishing updated advice, as all translated material had to be checked by a second person to minimise errors.

“An additional step of having a translation supplier review the documents once in preview on the website also occurs to ensure any technical issues that occur during the publishing process are addressed,” he said.

“These translations process can occasionally result in a short delay in publishing web content and resources, it is crucial that all information is accurate.”

Last year, the ABC revealed nonsensical language translations of COVID-19 public health messages were being distributed to multicultural communities and that the federal health department had used Google Translate for critical public health messages.

Gold.

be an unfunny turnout if the masters of convergent reality undermined native intelligence, something our ancestors used on the African savanna maybe 400,000 years ago, but somewhere that appears to have been supplanted by a social construction

so bizarrely advanced the latter that an understander, a reader or whatever, can’t even sense what is a translation, forget that all wordly communication involve translation

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Date: 12/08/2021 13:40:10
From: Michael V
ID: 1776927
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Michael V said:

The ACT will go into lockdown for seven days from 5:00pm today, after the territory recorded a positive case of COVID-19 – over a year since the last locally acquired case.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/canberra-records-new-case-of-covid-19-sending-act-into-lockdown/100370616

When did the pollies go back to Canberra?

I don’t know.

I do now:

“The ACT Chief Minister said he’s been in contact with the Prime Minister, but it’s too early to tell how this lockdown might affect the next sitting of federal parliament, which is due next week.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney-nsw/100369742

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Date: 12/08/2021 14:07:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776930
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

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Date: 12/08/2021 14:16:47
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1776932
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/11/facebook-shuts-accounts-in-anti-vaccine-influencer-campaign-fazze

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Date: 12/08/2021 15:09:37
From: Michael V
ID: 1776937
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

buffy said:

When did the pollies go back to Canberra?

I don’t know.

I do now:

“The ACT Chief Minister said he’s been in contact with the Prime Minister, but it’s too early to tell how this lockdown might affect the next sitting of federal parliament, which is due next week.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney-nsw/100369742

More info from the same source:

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Date: 12/08/2021 15:12:21
From: buffy
ID: 1776938
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

buffy said:

When did the pollies go back to Canberra?

I don’t know.

I do now:

“The ACT Chief Minister said he’s been in contact with the Prime Minister, but it’s too early to tell how this lockdown might affect the next sitting of federal parliament, which is due next week.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney-nsw/100369742

NewsRadio has been infested by parliament this week too.

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Date: 12/08/2021 15:22:35
From: fsm
ID: 1776939
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


The ACT will go into lockdown for seven days from 5:00pm today, after the territory recorded a positive case of COVID-19 – over a year since the last locally acquired case.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/canberra-records-new-case-of-covid-19-sending-act-into-lockdown/100370616

What is the worst thing about a week long lockdown?

The first month.

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Date: 12/08/2021 16:14:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776944
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

What is to be done about states that export terrorism ¿

The women were on QF471, which flew into Melbourne from Sydney on Monday afternoon.

Mr Weimar said the two women travelled on a “completely invalid and inappropriate green zone permit”.

He said there were 46 people on the flight, who had all been contacted and would enter 14 days of quarantine.

“There’ll be people there who travelled under exemptions to do something really important,” he said.

“It is of no fault to them that they were sitting next to people who were in all likelihood infectious, and they will have to go into 14 days of quarantine immediately.”

Mr Weimar said the pair were taken into hotel quarantine upon arrival and tested positive on Wednesday.

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Date: 12/08/2021 16:46:25
From: Trevtaowillgetyounowhere
ID: 1776951
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

I’m really just becoming quite numb to the whole situation atm.

They keep announcing the numbers that are either more or less the same or worse than a few days ago but seem to be doing the same thing to try and fix it over and over.

I have let all faith that the NSW government will be able to haul this disease in now (I seriously doubt that the opposition would have faired better and frankly the comparison is meaningless anyway they aren’t in so…..)

I’m going to work twice every day from one locked down lga into another. I go nowhere else. I wear a mask before I leave my house and untill I’m through the front door. I see none of my kids. I have a grand baby coming in a month and I’m resigned to the fact that I’ll not be able to be there with my son and his wife for the birth of their first child (her parents live outside of greater Sydney so they can’t be there to help either), and at least at the very minimum the first few months of her life.

The wife is looking into it to see if their is any exemption in regards to being able to help them as my son doesn’t drive. They live 7km away so the 5km rule may stop that right there, who knows.

It really is a depressing time to be alive.

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Date: 12/08/2021 16:51:56
From: Trevtaowillgetyounowhere
ID: 1776952
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Let=lost

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Date: 12/08/2021 16:57:58
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1776953
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:


I’m really just becoming quite numb to the whole situation atm.

They keep announcing the numbers that are either more or less the same or worse than a few days ago but seem to be doing the same thing to try and fix it over and over.

I have let all faith that the NSW government will be able to haul this disease in now (I seriously doubt that the opposition would have faired better and frankly the comparison is meaningless anyway they aren’t in so…..)

I’m going to work twice every day from one locked down lga into another. I go nowhere else. I wear a mask before I leave my house and untill I’m through the front door. I see none of my kids. I have a grand baby coming in a month and I’m resigned to the fact that I’ll not be able to be there with my son and his wife for the birth of their first child (her parents live outside of greater Sydney so they can’t be there to help either), and at least at the very minimum the first few months of her life.

The wife is looking into it to see if their is any exemption in regards to being able to help them as my son doesn’t drive. They live 7km away so the 5km rule may stop that right there, who knows.

It really is a depressing time to be alive.

That really sucks.

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Date: 12/08/2021 17:10:16
From: Michael V
ID: 1776954
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:


I’m really just becoming quite numb to the whole situation atm.

They keep announcing the numbers that are either more or less the same or worse than a few days ago but seem to be doing the same thing to try and fix it over and over.

I have let all faith that the NSW government will be able to haul this disease in now (I seriously doubt that the opposition would have faired better and frankly the comparison is meaningless anyway they aren’t in so…..)

I’m going to work twice every day from one locked down lga into another. I go nowhere else. I wear a mask before I leave my house and untill I’m through the front door. I see none of my kids. I have a grand baby coming in a month and I’m resigned to the fact that I’ll not be able to be there with my son and his wife for the birth of their first child (her parents live outside of greater Sydney so they can’t be there to help either), and at least at the very minimum the first few months of her life.

The wife is looking into it to see if their is any exemption in regards to being able to help them as my son doesn’t drive. They live 7km away so the 5km rule may stop that right there, who knows.

It really is a depressing time to be alive.

Bummer.

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Date: 12/08/2021 17:13:01
From: Trevtaowillgetyounowhere
ID: 1776956
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Witty Rejoinder said:

That really sucks.

Yup

This is the stuff that helps.

For the first time in ten years I’m working full time again. My latest endocrinologist appointment was today (by phone) and my 3 month bloods show a reduced blood sugar lvl of 7.9 down to 7.1. that’s the 4th reduction in a row now. My last visit to the opthamologist was awesome no new macular degradation since last visit so no needles in the eyes or lasers needed at this point in time.

:-)

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Date: 12/08/2021 17:15:05
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1776959
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Witty Rejoinder said:


Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

I’m really just becoming quite numb to the whole situation atm.

They keep announcing the numbers that are either more or less the same or worse than a few days ago but seem to be doing the same thing to try and fix it over and over.

I have let all faith that the NSW government will be able to haul this disease in now (I seriously doubt that the opposition would have faired better and frankly the comparison is meaningless anyway they aren’t in so…..)

I’m going to work twice every day from one locked down lga into another. I go nowhere else. I wear a mask before I leave my house and untill I’m through the front door. I see none of my kids. I have a grand baby coming in a month and I’m resigned to the fact that I’ll not be able to be there with my son and his wife for the birth of their first child (her parents live outside of greater Sydney so they can’t be there to help either), and at least at the very minimum the first few months of her life.

The wife is looking into it to see if their is any exemption in regards to being able to help them as my son doesn’t drive. They live 7km away so the 5km rule may stop that right there, who knows.

It really is a depressing time to be alive.

That really sucks.


I wasn’t allowed to be there. I had to wait until each kidlet was four or five days old. Still only get to see them every couple of months even though they live 45 minutes away. But Tim’s parents take family seriously. That is why Sarah spends Mother’s day with them.

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Date: 12/08/2021 17:16:45
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1776961
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

I’m really just becoming quite numb to the whole situation atm.

They keep announcing the numbers that are either more or less the same or worse than a few days ago but seem to be doing the same thing to try and fix it over and over.

I have let all faith that the NSW government will be able to haul this disease in now (I seriously doubt that the opposition would have faired better and frankly the comparison is meaningless anyway they aren’t in so…..)

I’m going to work twice every day from one locked down lga into another. I go nowhere else. I wear a mask before I leave my house and untill I’m through the front door. I see none of my kids. I have a grand baby coming in a month and I’m resigned to the fact that I’ll not be able to be there with my son and his wife for the birth of their first child (her parents live outside of greater Sydney so they can’t be there to help either), and at least at the very minimum the first few months of her life.

The wife is looking into it to see if their is any exemption in regards to being able to help them as my son doesn’t drive. They live 7km away so the 5km rule may stop that right there, who knows.

It really is a depressing time to be alive.

That really sucks.


I wasn’t allowed to be there. I had to wait until each kidlet was four or five days old. Still only get to see them every couple of months even though they live 45 minutes away. But Tim’s parents take family seriously. That is why Sarah spends Mother’s day with them.


I did get taken out for my brithday this year. But Tim’s parents went too and spent a good deal of the time telling me about all the things they do with the kids.

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Date: 12/08/2021 17:18:03
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1776962
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

That really sucks.

Yup

This is the stuff that helps.

For the first time in ten years I’m working full time again. My latest endocrinologist appointment was today (by phone) and my 3 month bloods show a reduced blood sugar lvl of 7.9 down to 7.1. that’s the 4th reduction in a row now. My last visit to the opthamologist was awesome no new macular degradation since last visit so no needles in the eyes or lasers needed at this point in time.

:-)

That is good. Look at it this way, the healthier you get the longer you’ll live and when things get relatively normal again you’ll have longer to catch up with all the rellies and sprogs.

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Date: 12/08/2021 17:18:13
From: Trevtaowillgetyounowhere
ID: 1776964
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That really sucks.


I wasn’t allowed to be there. I had to wait until each kidlet was four or five days old. Still only get to see them every couple of months even though they live 45 minutes away. But Tim’s parents take family seriously. That is why Sarah spends Mother’s day with them.


I did get taken out for my brithday this year. But Tim’s parents went too and spent a good deal of the time telling me about all the things they do with the kids.

Sounds hard. I’m sorry if it’s hard for you.

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Date: 12/08/2021 17:18:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1776965
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

That really sucks.

Yup

This is the stuff that helps.

For the first time in ten years I’m working full time again. My latest endocrinologist appointment was today (by phone) and my 3 month bloods show a reduced blood sugar lvl of 7.9 down to 7.1. that’s the 4th reduction in a row now. My last visit to the opthamologist was awesome no new macular degradation since last visit so no needles in the eyes or lasers needed at this point in time.

:-)

Goodo :)

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Date: 12/08/2021 17:20:02
From: Trevtaowillgetyounowhere
ID: 1776966
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Bogsnorkler said:


Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That really sucks.

Yup

This is the stuff that helps.

For the first time in ten years I’m working full time again. My latest endocrinologist appointment was today (by phone) and my 3 month bloods show a reduced blood sugar lvl of 7.9 down to 7.1. that’s the 4th reduction in a row now. My last visit to the opthamologist was awesome no new macular degradation since last visit so no needles in the eyes or lasers needed at this point in time.

:-)

That is good. Look at it this way, the healthier you get the longer you’ll live and when things get relatively normal again you’ll have longer to catch up with all the rellies and sprogs.

Indeedy yes. All that and TAOW is still here after the last 10 years or so. Absolute rock she is. I owe her all.

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Date: 12/08/2021 17:22:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1776968
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:


sarahs mum said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That really sucks.


I wasn’t allowed to be there. I had to wait until each kidlet was four or five days old. Still only get to see them every couple of months even though they live 45 minutes away. But Tim’s parents take family seriously. That is why Sarah spends Mother’s day with them.


I did get taken out for my brithday this year. But Tim’s parents went too and spent a good deal of the time telling me about all the things they do with the kids.

Sounds like Tim’s parents are pretty much a fixture in their lives.

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Date: 12/08/2021 17:29:45
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1776972
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Bubblecar said:


sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

I wasn’t allowed to be there. I had to wait until each kidlet was four or five days old. Still only get to see them every couple of months even though they live 45 minutes away. But Tim’s parents take family seriously. That is why Sarah spends Mother’s day with them.


I did get taken out for my brithday this year. But Tim’s parents went too and spent a good deal of the time telling me about all the things they do with the kids.

Sounds like Tim’s parents are pretty much a fixture in their lives.


Tim’s Mum babysits one day a week.
I like Tim.
But Sarah and I were like sisters until he came on the scene. I lost my besty. I have no idea what his problem is. And it certainly isnt my fault that he liked Brett and Brett left.

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Date: 12/08/2021 18:30:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776982
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

so as we said (possibly not here) a few weeks back we revise our estimates on the back of more recent data and accept that vaccines really do kind of reduce infection risk (1/3) and risk of death if infected (1/3) for an overall (1/10*) which means instead of COVID-19 being just a mild head cold it’s basically a single morning of hayfever or something

but yeah imagine that if you catch one of these then instead of having a 5% chance of getting fucked up, that’s now 2%, pretty good


*: transition may well object that 3.2 * 3.1 still is not 10, though it is closer than 𝜋 × 𝜋 so shrug

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Date: 12/08/2021 18:47:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1776988
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

The vaccines were designed to achieve regime change, not find weapons of mass destruction.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/covid-breakthrough-delta-variant.html

What to Know About Oil, Breakthrough Infections and the 9Delta11 Variant

The vaccines were designed to prevent severe illness, not infection.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/22/opinion/covid-vaccine-coronavirus.html

According to the protocols for their studies, which they released late last week, a vaccine could meet the companies’ benchmark for success if it lowered the risk of mild Covid-19, but was never shown to reduce moderate or severe forms of the disease, or the risk of hospitalization, admissions to the intensive care unit or death.

wait

oh yeah

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Date: 12/08/2021 21:58:45
From: dv
ID: 1777053
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

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Date: 12/08/2021 22:00:03
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1777054
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Eighteen people linked to a special needs school in Sydney’s north have tested positive for COVID-19, including at least seven students.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/giant-steps-school-in-gladesville-linked-to-covid-cases/100373240
—==

i have a sinking feeling my great nephew attends this establishment.

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Date: 12/08/2021 22:05:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777055
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:

Eighteen people linked to a special needs school in Sydney’s north have tested positive for COVID-19, including at least seven students.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/giant-steps-school-in-gladesville-linked-to-covid-cases/100373240
—=—
i have a sinking feeling my great nephew attends this establishment.

Gutless Eugenic Great Success

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Date: 12/08/2021 22:09:43
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1777057
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:


Eighteen people linked to a special needs school in Sydney’s north have tested positive for COVID-19, including at least seven students.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/giant-steps-school-in-gladesville-linked-to-covid-cases/100373240
—==

i have a sinking feeling my great nephew attends this establishment.

There are another couple of similar schools in the area…

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Date: 12/08/2021 22:12:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777058
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

¿ is Gladesville already a designated “lockdown” area, or going to be now ?

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Date: 12/08/2021 22:14:23
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1777059
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


¿ is Gladesville already a designated “lockdown” area, or going to be now ?

It’s not far from the CBD. as the seagull flies.

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Date: 12/08/2021 22:24:04
From: furious
ID: 1777060
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


¿ is Gladesville already a designated “lockdown” area, or going to be now ?

Gladysville?

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Date: 12/08/2021 23:32:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777064
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:

furious said:

SCIENCE said:

¿ is Gladesville already a designated “lockdown” area, or going to be now ?

Gladysville?

It’s not far from the CBD. as the seagull flies.

Hmm, trying to find out now, https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules seems Gutsville is in Hunters Hill, which isn’t Hunter, and isn’t currently in “areas of concern” with “stay at home rules”.

Nice tail-chasing exercise here.

But yousall are right, since this doesn’t make sense, we reexamine our assumptions to conclude

. Yeah. Brilliant ¡

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Date: 12/08/2021 23:41:33
From: transition
ID: 1777067
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

dv said:



the covid hesitancy is stronger in Victoria, despite the forces working for global equality, but be sure if the hesitancy fades you’ll hear about it quickly, sure as news, money, and planes travel the globe hurriedly, there is no shortage of embarrassingly unnecessary morbidity and mortality to hide

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Date: 13/08/2021 08:58:49
From: dv
ID: 1777112
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Anti-mask Briton remanded in Singapore mental health facility as he tells court “I refuse to be a slave”

Mr Glynn has worked in Singapore since 2017 as an employee of a UK company based in the country.

He was recorded breaking Singapore’s strict mask-wearing warrant before officers tracked him down after the clip went viral. The accused said his family had since returned home to Leeds without him.

“I want to leave the country anyway – let me go,” he said.

https://www.uktimenews.com/anti-mask-briton-remanded-in-singapore-mental-health-facility-as-he-tells-court-i-refuse-to-be-a-slave/?amp

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Date: 13/08/2021 09:00:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1777114
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

dv said:


Anti-mask Briton remanded in Singapore mental health facility as he tells court “I refuse to be a slave”

Mr Glynn has worked in Singapore since 2017 as an employee of a UK company based in the country.

He was recorded breaking Singapore’s strict mask-wearing warrant before officers tracked him down after the clip went viral. The accused said his family had since returned home to Leeds without him.

“I want to leave the country anyway – let me go,” he said.

https://www.uktimenews.com/anti-mask-briton-remanded-in-singapore-mental-health-facility-as-he-tells-court-i-refuse-to-be-a-slave/?amp


What makes him believe that the UK will take him back?

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Date: 13/08/2021 09:01:04
From: Tamb
ID: 1777115
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

dv said:


Anti-mask Briton remanded in Singapore mental health facility as he tells court “I refuse to be a slave”

Mr Glynn has worked in Singapore since 2017 as an employee of a UK company based in the country.

He was recorded breaking Singapore’s strict mask-wearing warrant before officers tracked him down after the clip went viral. The accused said his family had since returned home to Leeds without him.

“I want to leave the country anyway – let me go,” he said.

https://www.uktimenews.com/anti-mask-briton-remanded-in-singapore-mental-health-facility-as-he-tells-court-i-refuse-to-be-a-slave/?amp


Singapore is a fine city. They fine you for everything.

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Date: 13/08/2021 09:02:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1777117
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

dv said:


Anti-mask Briton remanded in Singapore mental health facility as he tells court “I refuse to be a slave”

Mr Glynn has worked in Singapore since 2017 as an employee of a UK company based in the country.

He was recorded breaking Singapore’s strict mask-wearing warrant before officers tracked him down after the clip went viral. The accused said his family had since returned home to Leeds without him.

“I want to leave the country anyway – let me go,” he said.

https://www.uktimenews.com/anti-mask-briton-remanded-in-singapore-mental-health-facility-as-he-tells-court-i-refuse-to-be-a-slave/?amp

So many silly billies making arses of themselves.

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Date: 13/08/2021 09:32:06
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1777141
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

roughbarked said:


dv said:

Anti-mask Briton remanded in Singapore mental health facility as he tells court “I refuse to be a slave”

Mr Glynn has worked in Singapore since 2017 as an employee of a UK company based in the country.

He was recorded breaking Singapore’s strict mask-wearing warrant before officers tracked him down after the clip went viral. The accused said his family had since returned home to Leeds without him.

“I want to leave the country anyway – let me go,” he said.

https://www.uktimenews.com/anti-mask-briton-remanded-in-singapore-mental-health-facility-as-he-tells-court-i-refuse-to-be-a-slave/?amp


What makes him believe that the UK will take him back?

Because Britons never never never shall be slaves, presumably.

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Date: 13/08/2021 09:34:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 1777143
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

Anti-mask Briton remanded in Singapore mental health facility as he tells court “I refuse to be a slave”

Mr Glynn has worked in Singapore since 2017 as an employee of a UK company based in the country.

He was recorded breaking Singapore’s strict mask-wearing warrant before officers tracked him down after the clip went viral. The accused said his family had since returned home to Leeds without him.

“I want to leave the country anyway – let me go,” he said.

https://www.uktimenews.com/anti-mask-briton-remanded-in-singapore-mental-health-facility-as-he-tells-court-i-refuse-to-be-a-slave/?amp


What makes him believe that the UK will take him back?

Because Britons never never never shall be slaves, presumably.

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Date: 13/08/2021 09:54:54
From: Michael V
ID: 1777158
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

“The head of Western NSW Local Health District says the majority of confirmed COVID-19 cases in the Dubbo region are Indigenous adults and children.”

——————————————

Bugger.

——————————————

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/sydney-news-public-transport-disrupted-after-workers-isolating/100373114

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Date: 13/08/2021 10:02:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777163
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:

“The head of Western NSW Local Health District says the majority of confirmed COVID-19 cases in the Dubbo region are Indigenous adults and children.”

——————————————

Bugger.

——————————————

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/sydney-news-public-transport-disrupted-after-workers-isolating/100373114

Closing The Gap

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Date: 13/08/2021 10:05:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777164
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

here let us tempt transition away from h’ banter with The Rev Dodgson by contributing this disingenuous piece of shit instead

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Date: 13/08/2021 10:12:24
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1777166
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/aug/11/i-am-legend-anti-vaccine-movies

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Date: 13/08/2021 10:15:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777167
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

oh so now shops insisting on vaccination is freedom, but shops allowing people to hang out in large numbers unmasked is illegal

NSW viewer Patrick Relyea asked if it was fair to reward those who got vaccinated by allowing them more access to certain parts of life over the unvaccinated.

It led to a discussion centred around vaccine passports, and calls were made for the government to show leadership and let businesses know how to best undertake the process of opening up safely for the public.

Financial journalist Alan Kohler said businesses had a right to set their own rules.

“People who have control over their own individual situations, businesses, or organisations, will be able to decide how they proceed,” Kohler said.

“Venues say that we can only come in if you’re vaccinated.”

Chief of the Australian Retailers’ Association Paul Zahra went a step further and said the government needed to protect businesses and pass a law.

“I don’t think most businesses want to be facing litigation potentially,” Mr Zahra said.

“So we just need a plan that actually gets all of our employees vaccinated willingly. needs to demonstrate leadership here.”

It was a call echoed by Ms King, who said vaccinations first had to ramp up before the discussion took place, but she too called on Mr Morrison to work with businesses.

“What you’re going to see is businesses are starting to talk about it. Aviation is talking about it.

“And it is a failure of national leadership if you don’t have the Prime Minister sitting down with business and the unions trying to work out what some of the rules might be.”

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Date: 13/08/2021 10:26:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777172
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/aug/11/i-am-legend-anti-vaccine-movies

not even the most frothing anti-vaxxer would claim that the coronavirus was an integral part of their personality

👎

That’s generous.

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Date: 13/08/2021 10:30:34
From: transition
ID: 1777176
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


here let us tempt transition away from h’ banter with The Rev Dodgson by contributing this disingenuous piece of shit instead


all I can say is there exists no convincing evidence anyone in china has any way released covid, certainly not intentionally, not that I am aware, the same probably can’t be said of other countries, and the distraction value of that anomalous situation hasn’t completely evaporated from my mind

but there is a lot of covid hesitancy to overcome, what better way to do it

I presume if there is vaccine hesitancy that covid hesitancy is also a possibility in the real world of things, though I can’t imagine a right-thinking person immersed in the forces of convergent reality enthusiastically acknowledging that, maybe not openly

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Date: 13/08/2021 10:33:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1777178
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Seems a bit early to be making such claims.

Children born during pandemic have lower IQs, US study finds

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/12/children-born-during-pandemic-have-lower-iqs-us-study-finds

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Date: 13/08/2021 10:34:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777179
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

here let us tempt transition away from h’ banter with The Rev Dodgson by contributing this disingenuous piece of shit instead


all I can say is there exists no convincing evidence anyone in china has any way released covid, certainly not intentionally, not that I am aware, the same probably can’t be said of other countries, and the distraction value of that anomalous situation hasn’t completely evaporated from my mind

but there is a lot of covid hesitancy to overcome, what better way to do it

I presume if there is vaccine hesitancy that covid hesitancy is also a possibility in the real world of things, though I can’t imagine a right-thinking person immersed in the forces of convergent reality enthusiastically acknowledging that, maybe not openly

we’ll forgive you if you don’t read the article, it seems to be a partly stealth advance of the “the virus is guaranteed to stay, people trying to achieve that are the bold and gutsy good guys, and anyone who wants to rid the world of a mild hayfever virus or even just think lives are worth saving is a coward who doesn’t trust vaccines or have the intestines to take anything on the chin

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Date: 13/08/2021 10:39:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777180
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Bubblecar said:


Seems a bit early to be making such claims.

Children born during pandemic have lower IQs, US study finds

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/12/children-born-during-pandemic-have-lower-iqs-us-study-finds

fk knew it, we must have been born during pandemic

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Date: 13/08/2021 10:40:50
From: Tamb
ID: 1777182
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Bubblecar said:

Seems a bit early to be making such claims.

Children born during pandemic have lower IQs, US study finds

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/12/children-born-during-pandemic-have-lower-iqs-us-study-finds

fk knew it, we must have been born during pandemic


I was born during a world war. I wonder if it had a effect on me.

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Date: 13/08/2021 10:56:05
From: Speedy
ID: 1777189
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Bubblecar said:


Seems a bit early to be making such claims.

Children born during pandemic have lower IQs, US study finds

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/12/children-born-during-pandemic-have-lower-iqs-us-study-finds

It’s a poor choice of headline. The article states significantly reduced verbal, motor and overall cognitive performance

It’s a sad reality though. My niece nephew who was born in May last year, went to a playground for the first time on his first birthday.

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:00:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777190
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Seems a bit early to be making such claims.

Children born during pandemic have lower IQs, US study finds

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/12/children-born-during-pandemic-have-lower-iqs-us-study-finds

It’s a poor choice of headline. The article states significantly reduced verbal, motor and overall cognitive performance

It’s a sad reality though. My niece nephew who was born in May last year, went to a playground for the first time on his first birthday.

so it’s true then, the pandemic really is a Right Wing slash Republic slash Tory slash Corruption Coalition long range strategy to remain in power slash get reelected for the next lifetime

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:01:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777191
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sorry, missing an “an” there

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:01:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1777192
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Seems a bit early to be making such claims.

Children born during pandemic have lower IQs, US study finds

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/12/children-born-during-pandemic-have-lower-iqs-us-study-finds

It’s a poor choice of headline. The article states significantly reduced verbal, motor and overall cognitive performance

It’s a sad reality though. My niece nephew who was born in May last year, went to a playground for the first time on his first birthday.

so it’s true then, the pandemic really is a Right Wing slash Republic slash Tory slash Corruption Coalition long range strategy to remain in power slash get reelected for the next lifetime


In hindsight, they’ll probably take credit for it?

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:03:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1777193
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


sorry, missing an “an” there

Anan, could be Japanese or Association of National Accountants of Nigeria

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:06:25
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1777195
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Speedy said:


Bubblecar said:

Seems a bit early to be making such claims.

Children born during pandemic have lower IQs, US study finds

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/12/children-born-during-pandemic-have-lower-iqs-us-study-finds

It’s a poor choice of headline. The article states significantly reduced verbal, motor and overall cognitive performance

It’s a sad reality though. My niece nephew who was born in May last year, went to a playground for the first time on his first birthday.

The article refers to a measured IQ for the kids studied.

This to me seems a very strange effect of having one or both parents spending much more time at home, especially for very young kids who wouldn’t have that much interaction with other kids anyway.

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:09:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777196
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

The Rev Dodgson said:


Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Seems a bit early to be making such claims.

Children born during pandemic have lower IQs, US study finds

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/12/children-born-during-pandemic-have-lower-iqs-us-study-finds

It’s a poor choice of headline. The article states significantly reduced verbal, motor and overall cognitive performance

It’s a sad reality though. My niece nephew who was born in May last year, went to a playground for the first time on his first birthday.

The article refers to a measured IQ for the kids studied.

This to me seems a very strange effect of having one or both parents spending much more time at home, especially for very young kids who wouldn’t have that much interaction with other kids anyway.

¿ so parents make their children stupider ?

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:09:23
From: Michael V
ID: 1777197
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

NSW records 390 new local cases, two deaths.

These two deaths were a woman in her 40s in south-western Sydney who died at home, and a man in his late 90s in the Hunter area who was also in palliative care.

Of those 390 new cases:

25 cases in Dubbo area
5 cases in Hunter region

No new cases were detected in the Tamworth, Armidale and Northern Rivers.”

——————————————————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/coronavirus-covid-19-live-blog-updates-lockdown-cases-sydney-nsw/100373178

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:10:56
From: Arts
ID: 1777198
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

The Rev Dodgson said:


Speedy said:

Bubblecar said:

Seems a bit early to be making such claims.

Children born during pandemic have lower IQs, US study finds

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/12/children-born-during-pandemic-have-lower-iqs-us-study-finds

It’s a poor choice of headline. The article states significantly reduced verbal, motor and overall cognitive performance

It’s a sad reality though. My niece nephew who was born in May last year, went to a playground for the first time on his first birthday.

The article refers to a measured IQ for the kids studied.

This to me seems a very strange effect of having one or both parents spending much more time at home, especially for very young kids who wouldn’t have that much interaction with other kids anyway.

parents who normally go to work put their kids in daycare. this means a great deal of interaction/ stimulus of other children and adults. Households who usually have a stay at home parent, typically engage in parent groups and mothers group activities, or, at the very least go to parks or adventures to shops etc.. there stimulating the baby/child with visual, auditory and interactive experiences. “interaction’ does not always need to be one on one communication, but is also being stimulated by sights sounds and smells.

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:12:02
From: sibeen
ID: 1777199
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says she wants her counterpart in NSW to provide a “clear plan” on containing the spread of COVID-19 in the state and that the situation will be discussed at National Cabinet this afternoon.

Snigger.

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:21:54
From: transition
ID: 1777202
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Arts said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Speedy said:

It’s a poor choice of headline. The article states significantly reduced verbal, motor and overall cognitive performance

It’s a sad reality though. My niece nephew who was born in May last year, went to a playground for the first time on his first birthday.

The article refers to a measured IQ for the kids studied.

This to me seems a very strange effect of having one or both parents spending much more time at home, especially for very young kids who wouldn’t have that much interaction with other kids anyway.

parents who normally go to work put their kids in daycare. this means a great deal of interaction/ stimulus of other children and adults. Households who usually have a stay at home parent, typically engage in parent groups and mothers group activities, or, at the very least go to parks or adventures to shops etc.. there stimulating the baby/child with visual, auditory and interactive experiences. “interaction’ does not always need to be one on one communication, but is also being stimulated by sights sounds and smells.

digging deep into my understanding of psychometrics, which isn’t to go down far at all, but before everyone goes all environment, large part of psychometrics measures native intelligence, as recall

the US, if that’s where the study was done, isn’t emerging from a period of leadership by high intelligence, models of

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:23:01
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1777203
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

transition said:


Arts said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

The article refers to a measured IQ for the kids studied.

This to me seems a very strange effect of having one or both parents spending much more time at home, especially for very young kids who wouldn’t have that much interaction with other kids anyway.

parents who normally go to work put their kids in daycare. this means a great deal of interaction/ stimulus of other children and adults. Households who usually have a stay at home parent, typically engage in parent groups and mothers group activities, or, at the very least go to parks or adventures to shops etc.. there stimulating the baby/child with visual, auditory and interactive experiences. “interaction’ does not always need to be one on one communication, but is also being stimulated by sights sounds and smells.

digging deep into my understanding of psychometrics, which isn’t to go down far at all, but before everyone goes all environment, large part of psychometrics measures native intelligence, as recall

the US, if that’s where the study was done, isn’t emerging from a period of leadership by high intelligence, models of

I’m afraid I’m not quite getting your point there mr. t.

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:25:22
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1777204
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Arts said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Speedy said:

It’s a poor choice of headline. The article states significantly reduced verbal, motor and overall cognitive performance

It’s a sad reality though. My niece nephew who was born in May last year, went to a playground for the first time on his first birthday.

The article refers to a measured IQ for the kids studied.

This to me seems a very strange effect of having one or both parents spending much more time at home, especially for very young kids who wouldn’t have that much interaction with other kids anyway.

parents who normally go to work put their kids in daycare. this means a great deal of interaction/ stimulus of other children and adults. Households who usually have a stay at home parent, typically engage in parent groups and mothers group activities, or, at the very least go to parks or adventures to shops etc.. there stimulating the baby/child with visual, auditory and interactive experiences. “interaction’ does not always need to be one on one communication, but is also being stimulated by sights sounds and smells.

OK, for kids who were 18 months to 3 years during the pandemic.
Do the 0 to 18 months kids in daycare really get that much interaction?

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:26:23
From: Arts
ID: 1777205
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

The Rev Dodgson said:


Arts said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

The article refers to a measured IQ for the kids studied.

This to me seems a very strange effect of having one or both parents spending much more time at home, especially for very young kids who wouldn’t have that much interaction with other kids anyway.

parents who normally go to work put their kids in daycare. this means a great deal of interaction/ stimulus of other children and adults. Households who usually have a stay at home parent, typically engage in parent groups and mothers group activities, or, at the very least go to parks or adventures to shops etc.. there stimulating the baby/child with visual, auditory and interactive experiences. “interaction’ does not always need to be one on one communication, but is also being stimulated by sights sounds and smells.

OK, for kids who were 18 months to 3 years during the pandemic.
Do the 0 to 18 months kids in daycare really get that much interaction?

stimulus.. yes.

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:27:32
From: transition
ID: 1777206
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

The Rev Dodgson said:


transition said:

Arts said:

parents who normally go to work put their kids in daycare. this means a great deal of interaction/ stimulus of other children and adults. Households who usually have a stay at home parent, typically engage in parent groups and mothers group activities, or, at the very least go to parks or adventures to shops etc.. there stimulating the baby/child with visual, auditory and interactive experiences. “interaction’ does not always need to be one on one communication, but is also being stimulated by sights sounds and smells.

digging deep into my understanding of psychometrics, which isn’t to go down far at all, but before everyone goes all environment, large part of psychometrics measures native intelligence, as recall

the US, if that’s where the study was done, isn’t emerging from a period of leadership by high intelligence, models of

I’m afraid I’m not quite getting your point there mr. t.

that’s not an altogether bad thing, I don’t understand most of the universe, I won’t be setting about changing that today, ruin my day that way

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:31:15
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1777207
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

transition said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

digging deep into my understanding of psychometrics, which isn’t to go down far at all, but before everyone goes all environment, large part of psychometrics measures native intelligence, as recall

the US, if that’s where the study was done, isn’t emerging from a period of leadership by high intelligence, models of

I’m afraid I’m not quite getting your point there mr. t.

that’s not an altogether bad thing, I don’t understand most of the universe, I won’t be setting about changing that today, ruin my day that way

I may not always follow what you are getting at, but your responses to my snarky comments almost always raise a smile.

:)

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:45:43
From: transition
ID: 1777208
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

The Rev Dodgson said:


transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m afraid I’m not quite getting your point there mr. t.

that’s not an altogether bad thing, I don’t understand most of the universe, I won’t be setting about changing that today, ruin my day that way

I may not always follow what you are getting at, but your responses to my snarky comments almost always raise a smile.

:)

my point, if I had one, which I didn’t really, but if I pretended I had one for a moment, if I was overcome by a raging explicitness that displaced every other possible contradiction that might prevent me from saying it, ignore contradictory thoughts for the purpose of clarity, it might be that if your ideas of intelligence were loaded, biased toward the view it is learned, more learned than it is, maybe you read some critical theory or something and irreversibly damaged the possibility of having your own ideas, anyway you might let covid go wild, happily ruin some of the neural structure that contributes to higher functions, you may even need a massive deception to release covid, and where does that end, the license for deception, six-hundred-thousand or more reasons to hide something, and that’s just the mortality, ignoring the morbidity

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:51:30
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777210
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

transition said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

digging deep into my understanding of psychometrics, which isn’t to go down far at all, but before everyone goes all environment, large part of psychometrics measures native intelligence, as recall

the US, if that’s where the study was done, isn’t emerging from a period of leadership by high intelligence, models of

I’m afraid I’m not quite getting your point there mr. t.

that’s not an altogether bad thing, I don’t understand most of the universe, I won’t be setting about changing that today, ruin my day that way

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Date: 13/08/2021 11:52:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777211
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Speedy said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

one. focused protection laugh out loud

two. four days to get a result what the fuck

It’s Walgett.

+1, but it’s 3 hours by road to Dubbo, where I imagine the nearest testing facility is. A sample would only need a one-way trip, so let’s say it leaves next-day (day 2). That’s still a 3-day turn-around for a result. That’s not good at all.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/bathurst-jail-concerns-after-covid-exposure/100371298

boom

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Date: 13/08/2021 12:07:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 1777219
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

transition said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

that’s not an altogether bad thing, I don’t understand most of the universe, I won’t be setting about changing that today, ruin my day that way

I may not always follow what you are getting at, but your responses to my snarky comments almost always raise a smile.

:)

my point, if I had one, which I didn’t really, but if I pretended I had one for a moment, if I was overcome by a raging explicitness that displaced every other possible contradiction that might prevent me from saying it, ignore contradictory thoughts for the purpose of clarity, it might be that if your ideas of intelligence were loaded, biased toward the view it is learned, more learned than it is, maybe you read some critical theory or something and irreversibly damaged the possibility of having your own ideas, anyway you might let covid go wild, happily ruin some of the neural structure that contributes to higher functions, you may even need a massive deception to release covid, and where does that end, the license for deception, six-hundred-thousand or more reasons to hide something, and that’s just the mortality, ignoring the morbidity


deep.

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Date: 13/08/2021 12:42:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777229
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8


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Date: 13/08/2021 12:47:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777231
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

pretty wise with their choices of words

“Some of the hesitancy that people talk about, I think a lot of it is talk,” Mr Andrews said. “I think that particularly younger people are very keen to get the best vaccine they can and the best vaccine they can get, as the Chief Health Officer reminds us, is the one that is available today.”

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Date: 13/08/2021 12:57:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777236
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

because have you seen this kind of thing widely available in Australia sheesh

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Date: 13/08/2021 13:03:48
From: Michael V
ID: 1777239
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


because have you seen this kind of thing widely available in Australia sheesh

idgi

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Date: 13/08/2021 13:06:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777240
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

because they’re fascists communists uh wtf who knows maybe they just actually tried to get infections down

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Date: 13/08/2021 13:08:10
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1777242
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

because have you seen this kind of thing widely available in Australia sheesh

idgi

It’s some sort of air cleaner (Bing tells me).

Whether they actually do any good, only SCIENCE knows.

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Date: 13/08/2021 13:11:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777243
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

because have you seen this kind of thing widely available in Australia sheesh

idgi

apparently good ventilation, or if not fresh air then filtering / scrubbing / cleaning circulated air actually clears virus and therefore decreases infection risk (see bottom)

in some other countries (often with a bigger problem than Australia has so far had) people are hacking together their own filter kits with HEPA available at for example hardware stores

however in Australia most of the available options are prefabricated and expensive videre licet

although now that you point it out, we had a look again so we suppose you could just stick a fan into the opening of something like this

https://www.bunnings.com.au/powerfit-h13-hepa-cartridge-filter_p6210793

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Date: 13/08/2021 13:12:15
From: sibeen
ID: 1777244
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

because have you seen this kind of thing widely available in Australia sheesh

idgi

+1

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Date: 13/08/2021 13:13:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777245
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

The Rev Dodgson said:

Whether they actually do any good, only SCIENCE knows.

fair, hence, we leave it to the reader to Do Your Own Research Review and consider whether (for example) RMH (as shown previous post) is doing good SCIENCE right

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Date: 13/08/2021 13:14:41
From: Michael V
ID: 1777246
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

because have you seen this kind of thing widely available in Australia sheesh

idgi

apparently good ventilation, or if not fresh air then filtering / scrubbing / cleaning circulated air actually clears virus and therefore decreases infection risk (see bottom)

in some other countries (often with a bigger problem than Australia has so far had) people are hacking together their own filter kits with HEPA available at for example hardware stores

however in Australia most of the available options are prefabricated and expensive videre licet

although now that you point it out, we had a look again so we suppose you could just stick a fan into the opening of something like this

https://www.bunnings.com.au/powerfit-h13-hepa-cartridge-filter_p6210793


Thank you.

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Date: 13/08/2021 13:16:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777247
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Whether they actually do any good, only SCIENCE knows.

fair, hence, we leave it to the reader to Do Your Own Research Review and consider whether (for example) RMH (as shown previous post) is doing good SCIENCE right

COVID cases could have been prevented by better ventilation, says leading aerosol scientist

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/covid-cases-could-have-been-prevented-by-better-ventilation-says-leading-aerosol-scientist-20210810-p58hg5.html

Schools, shopping centres and restaurants have become the epicentres of Victoria’s dangerous Delta clusters, but a respected aerosol scientist says some of this spread could have been prevented with improved ventilation of classrooms and public venues. Professor Lidia Morawska said carbon dioxide monitors should join QR codes and masks as standard measures used by business to help stop or reduce the severity of COVID-19 outbreaks. “Something needs to be done about this,” said the professor, an adviser to the World Health Organisation who last year wrote an open letter signed by more than 200 scientists from around the world that warned the risk of airborne transmission was being dangerously underplayed. “Because of whatever reason … politicians prefer not to talk about this, but just put their head in the sand. Well, that’s how the outbreaks happen.”

Although there have been increasing passing references made to improving ventilation by public health officials, the relative silence on the issue, which in some cases could be as simple as opening a door or window, continues to frustrate those in the field. The head of infectious diseases at Western Health, Dr Kainer said ventilation was something “which we as a society need to pay a lot more attention to”. She said that in schools and restaurants such as Ms Frankie in Cremorne, where there was a major super-spreading event last month, people could look at using portable air filters, known as HEPA filters, to help clean the air.

Robyn Schofield, director of the environmental science hub at the University of Melbourne, said carbon dioxide monitors were extremely useful to identify issues with ventilation inside buildings.

Queensland University of Technology professor said she had been left extremely frustrated with the inaction. She said some recent COVID-19 cases could have been prevented with better ventilation and every public place should have a carbon dioxide monitor reading displayed. Lower carbon dioxide rates could also have another benefit for schools and workplaces. “If there is too much CO2, in the longer term it makes us tired and sleepy and so on,” Professor Morawska said.

A doctor who works at Melbourne’s Royal Children’s Hospital was reported positive for COVID-19 on Tuesday. The doctor was not believed to be infectious while working at the hospital but authorities are investigating whether he was infectious while working at private clinics next door.

whoosh

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Date: 13/08/2021 13:49:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777254
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

A nation holds its breath as patient zero found in Canberra bubble

Lnp-ConserV-2 could be the most infectious thing from Queensland since johbjelkevirus, experts fear.

Terrified federal MPs have fled Canberra and the city has been plunged into a seven-day lockdown after a man tested positive for Conserv-19, in what is the first ACT infection of the novel conservative-thought virus Lnp-ConserV-2 in more than a decade.

In a frightening development, two of the man’s close contacts also returned positive tests for the highly infectious strain of conservative thinking.

more at https://www.afr.com/politics/a-nation-holds-its-breath-as-patient-zero-found-in-canberra-bubble-20210812-p58i40 but we aren’t subscribers and are still not inspired to become

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Date: 13/08/2021 14:04:52
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1777258
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


A nation holds its breath as patient zero found in Canberra bubble

Lnp-ConserV-2 could be the most infectious thing from Queensland since johbjelkevirus, experts fear.

Terrified federal MPs have fled Canberra and the city has been plunged into a seven-day lockdown after a man tested positive for Conserv-19, in what is the first ACT infection of the novel conservative-thought virus Lnp-ConserV-2 in more than a decade.

In a frightening development, two of the man’s close contacts also returned positive tests for the highly infectious strain of conservative thinking.

more at https://www.afr.com/politics/a-nation-holds-its-breath-as-patient-zero-found-in-canberra-bubble-20210812-p58i40 but we aren’t subscribers and are still not inspired to become

The basic concept seems sound enough, but surely if the virus is one that has not been observed for 10 years, it can’t be a conservative thinking virus.

Surely it must be politicians thinking in the same manner as implied by the name of their party.

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Date: 13/08/2021 14:24:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777263
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8


see we don’t understand these lack of reasoning

ZeroCOVID still suffers incursions so no point

well your life isn’t perfect so why stay alive

(as in we agree with the image content above)

(waits to be censored for advocating irrationals cease staying alive)

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Date: 13/08/2021 15:34:17
From: dv
ID: 1777286
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://god.dailydot.com/ted-cruz-kids-mask/

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Date: 13/08/2021 15:48:09
From: buffy
ID: 1777289
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

dv said:


https://god.dailydot.com/ted-cruz-kids-mask/

But it’s only so the kids can learn to say no, they won’t wear masks. It’s a learning exercise.

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Date: 13/08/2021 17:15:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777309
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Scott Morrison says Australians must ‘do the right thing’ to control COVID, stops short of supporting a ring of steel around Sydney

wonder what might happen if politicians did the right thing

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Date: 13/08/2021 19:33:33
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777372
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

idgi

apparently good ventilation, or if not fresh air then filtering / scrubbing / cleaning circulated air actually clears virus and therefore decreases infection risk (see bottom)

in some other countries (often with a bigger problem than Australia has so far had) people are hacking together their own filter kits with HEPA available at for example hardware stores

however in Australia most of the available options are prefabricated and expensive videre licet

although now that you point it out, we had a look again so we suppose you could just stick a fan into the opening of something like this

https://www.bunnings.com.au/powerfit-h13-hepa-cartridge-filter_p6210793


Thank you.

https://twitter.com/LazarusLong13/status/1425517352624410627

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Date: 13/08/2021 19:41:59
From: sibeen
ID: 1777377
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

NSW COVID-19 lockdown laws tightened, restricting travel from Greater Sydney after crisis Cabinet meeting

Jaysus – like about a month too late.

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Date: 13/08/2021 19:44:30
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1777379
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sibeen said:


NSW COVID-19 lockdown laws tightened, restricting travel from Greater Sydney after crisis Cabinet meeting

Jaysus – like about a month too late.

^^^^

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Date: 13/08/2021 19:49:13
From: Woodie
ID: 1777381
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sibeen said:


NSW COVID-19 lockdown laws tightened, restricting travel from Greater Sydney after crisis Cabinet meeting

Jaysus – like about a month too late.

Just a month????

————> FUCK YOU GLADYS thread.

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Date: 13/08/2021 19:54:28
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1777386
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Did we hear about the anti vaxxer anti masker protest in London where they demonstrated outside the building the BBC vacated 8 years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDnJLT8pqFk

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Date: 13/08/2021 20:45:28
From: buffy
ID: 1777396
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

I think I heard on the radio today that when the ACT announced it’s lockdown there was pretty much an immediate exodus to holiday homes on the coast etc. And Mr buffy suggests those not leaving at that time were probably out panic buying.

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Date: 13/08/2021 20:46:29
From: buffy
ID: 1777397
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Oh yes, and the pollies also hotfooted it out.

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Date: 13/08/2021 22:09:20
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1777415
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/12/1027103023/florida-mississippi-arkansas-hospitals-overwhelmed-covid-19-delta

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Date: 14/08/2021 03:21:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777441
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

your ABC done some secret overnight updates

Health authorities have issued a warning after traces of COVID-19 were found in the Broken Hill treatment plant in far western NSW.

NSW Health said the detection was particularly concerning, given there were no known cases in Broken Hill.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/nsw-sets-another-covid-19-record-with-390-cases-two-deaths/100374184

“particularly concerning”

next up

pick 1 or more or 4 (10)

oh sorry we needed Woodie’s FUCK YOU GLADYS. thread

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Date: 14/08/2021 03:28:38
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1777443
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


your ABC done some secret overnight updates

Health authorities have issued a warning after traces of COVID-19 were found in the Broken Hill treatment plant in far western NSW.

NSW Health said the detection was particularly concerning, given there were no known cases in Broken Hill.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/nsw-sets-another-covid-19-record-with-390-cases-two-deaths/100374184

“particularly concerning”

next up

  • biowarfare “mystery” cases appear in Mildura / Renmark
  • biowarfare “mystery” cases appear in Port Augusta
  • biowarfare “mystery” cases appear in Coober Pedy / Longreach / Mount Isa / Alice Springs
  • biowarfare “mystery” cases appear in Broome / Exmouth / Esperance

pick 1 or more or 4 (10)

oh sorry we needed Woodie’s FUCK YOU GLADYS. thread

I still want to know if “mystery” cases result from the eating of imported food contaminated with Covid.

Not all transmissions are airborne or by not using sanitiser.

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Date: 14/08/2021 07:49:17
From: Michael V
ID: 1777454
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


your ABC done some secret overnight updates

Health authorities have issued a warning after traces of COVID-19 were found in the Broken Hill treatment plant in far western NSW.

NSW Health said the detection was particularly concerning, given there were no known cases in Broken Hill.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/nsw-sets-another-covid-19-record-with-390-cases-two-deaths/100374184

“particularly concerning”

next up

  • biowarfare “mystery” cases appear in Mildura / Renmark
  • biowarfare “mystery” cases appear in Port Augusta
  • biowarfare “mystery” cases appear in Coober Pedy / Longreach / Mount Isa / Alice Springs
  • biowarfare “mystery” cases appear in Broome / Exmouth / Esperance

pick 1 or more or 4 (10)

oh sorry we needed Woodie’s FUCK YOU GLADYS. thread

Well spotted.

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Date: 14/08/2021 08:01:27
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1777455
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

mollwollfumble said:


SCIENCE said:

your ABC done some secret overnight updates

Health authorities have issued a warning after traces of COVID-19 were found in the Broken Hill treatment plant in far western NSW.

NSW Health said the detection was particularly concerning, given there were no known cases in Broken Hill.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/nsw-sets-another-covid-19-record-with-390-cases-two-deaths/100374184

“particularly concerning”

next up

  • biowarfare “mystery” cases appear in Mildura / Renmark
  • biowarfare “mystery” cases appear in Port Augusta
  • biowarfare “mystery” cases appear in Coober Pedy / Longreach / Mount Isa / Alice Springs
  • biowarfare “mystery” cases appear in Broome / Exmouth / Esperance

pick 1 or more or 4 (10)

oh sorry we needed Woodie’s FUCK YOU GLADYS. thread

I still want to know if “mystery” cases result from the eating of imported food contaminated with Covid.

Not all transmissions are airborne or by not using sanitiser.

They are not.

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Date: 14/08/2021 08:04:33
From: Michael V
ID: 1777457
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

‘Greater Sydney residents will need a permit to leave the region, under a swathe of new rules to tighten the state’s lockdown laws.

The new rules were agreed upon during a crisis meeting of the NSW Cabinet on Friday afternoon, and also include a restriction on people using their holiday homes.

Under that rule, people from Greater Sydney are not allowed to travel to their second homes, except under special circumstances, such as maintenance, and only one person will be able to attend.

From Monday, anyone who needs to isolate while awaiting COVID-19 test results will receive a special $320 payment.’

—————————————————————————————————————————-

I wonder whether looking at real estate in regions is still allowed? (That was the excuse the man from Rose Bay (Sydney) allegedly used to travel to Byron Bay.)

—————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/lockdown-laws-tightened-after-nsw-crisis-cabinet-meeting/100376786

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Date: 14/08/2021 08:10:24
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1777458
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


‘Greater Sydney residents will need a permit to leave the region, under a swathe of new rules to tighten the state’s lockdown laws.

The new rules were agreed upon during a crisis meeting of the NSW Cabinet on Friday afternoon, and also include a restriction on people using their holiday homes.

Under that rule, people from Greater Sydney are not allowed to travel to their second homes, except under special circumstances, such as maintenance, and only one person will be able to attend.

From Monday, anyone who needs to isolate while awaiting COVID-19 test results will receive a special $320 payment.’

—————————————————————————————————————————-

I wonder whether looking at real estate in regions is still allowed? (That was the excuse the man from Rose Bay (Sydney) allegedly used to travel to Byron Bay.)

—————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/lockdown-laws-tightened-after-nsw-crisis-cabinet-meeting/100376786

Ha, a lot of maintenance will be going on I suspect…

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Date: 14/08/2021 08:18:53
From: Michael V
ID: 1777461
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


Michael V said:

‘Greater Sydney residents will need a permit to leave the region, under a swathe of new rules to tighten the state’s lockdown laws.

The new rules were agreed upon during a crisis meeting of the NSW Cabinet on Friday afternoon, and also include a restriction on people using their holiday homes.

Under that rule, people from Greater Sydney are not allowed to travel to their second homes, except under special circumstances, such as maintenance, and only one person will be able to attend.

From Monday, anyone who needs to isolate while awaiting COVID-19 test results will receive a special $320 payment.’

—————————————————————————————————————————-

I wonder whether looking at real estate in regions is still allowed? (That was the excuse the man from Rose Bay (Sydney) allegedly used to travel to Byron Bay.)

—————————————————————————————————————————-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/lockdown-laws-tightened-after-nsw-crisis-cabinet-meeting/100376786

Ha, a lot of maintenance will be going on I suspect…

Yes, it seems some people like to interpret rules to give them the best possible outcome.

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Date: 14/08/2021 08:20:55
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1777462
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:

—————————————————————————————————————————-

I wonder whether looking at real estate in regions is still allowed? (That was the excuse the man from Rose Bay (Sydney) allegedly used to travel to Byron Bay.)

—————————————————————————————————————————-

I’m sure it will be.

Governments everywhere understand that it’s property speculation and the race-track-tout urging of real estate agents to drive prices ever higher that keeps this country afloat.

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Date: 14/08/2021 08:22:03
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1777463
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:

From Monday, anyone who needs to isolate while awaiting COVID-19 test results will receive a special $320 payment.’

Any restrictions on how many times you can get tested per month?

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Date: 14/08/2021 08:23:28
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1777464
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Dark Orange said:


Michael V said:

From Monday, anyone who needs to isolate while awaiting COVID-19 test results will receive a special $320 payment.’

Any restrictions on how many times you can get tested per month?

Per day, even.

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Date: 14/08/2021 08:28:30
From: Michael V
ID: 1777466
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Dark Orange said:


Michael V said:

From Monday, anyone who needs to isolate while awaiting COVID-19 test results will receive a special $320 payment.’

Any restrictions on how many times you can get tested per month?

Ha!

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Date: 14/08/2021 08:33:46
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1777467
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


Dark Orange said:

Michael V said:

From Monday, anyone who needs to isolate while awaiting COVID-19 test results will receive a special $320 payment.’

Any restrictions on how many times you can get tested per month?

Ha!

There is already a C’link payment for such instances that does not require actual proof of testing.

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Date: 14/08/2021 10:12:17
From: Michael V
ID: 1777497
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

QLD: seven new cases. Six locally acquired and one from overseas

All six local cases are linked to the Indro cluster.

The seven cases have not spent any time in the community during their infectious period.

Good!

:)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/covid-live-blog-latest-updates-nsw-vic-act-lockdown/100376634

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Date: 14/08/2021 10:15:26
From: Speedy
ID: 1777498
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


QLD: seven new cases. Six locally acquired and one from overseas

All six local cases are linked to the Indro cluster.

The seven cases have not spent any time in the community during their infectious period.

Good!

:)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/covid-live-blog-latest-updates-nsw-vic-act-lockdown/100376634

Now why couldn’t we do that?

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Date: 14/08/2021 10:29:51
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1777508
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Speedy said:


Michael V said:

QLD: seven new cases. Six locally acquired and one from overseas

All six local cases are linked to the Indro cluster.

The seven cases have not spent any time in the community during their infectious period.

Good!

:)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/covid-live-blog-latest-updates-nsw-vic-act-lockdown/100376634

Now why couldn’t we do that?

Because you have a Premier who’s shit-scared of her own sitting members in State parliament, shit-scared of State and Federal power-brokers, shit-scared of the commercial/business lobby, and unable to control even her erstwhile corrupt dickhead of a boyfriend, let alone manage a massive public-health crisis?

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Date: 14/08/2021 10:48:39
From: Michael V
ID: 1777515
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Speedy said:


Michael V said:

QLD: seven new cases. Six locally acquired and one from overseas

All six local cases are linked to the Indro cluster.

The seven cases have not spent any time in the community during their infectious period.

Good!

:)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/covid-live-blog-latest-updates-nsw-vic-act-lockdown/100376634

Now why couldn’t we do that?

Because Gladys is arrogant and knows better than anyone else. She criticised Dan in Victoria for not having a good enough contact tracing system, when the truth was that COVID was out of control by the time they got onto it. She criticised other Premiers for “hard and fast lockdowns”. They do work. Being wishy-washy won’t cut it with Delta-COVID.

There was the initial limo-driver index-case. Next day there were three. By this stage, the index-case was known to be Delta-COVID and the other two were linked. That was the time to lock down. Now it’s just out of control. I feel so sorry for you and all the other people in Sydney.

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Date: 14/08/2021 11:11:30
From: Michael V
ID: 1777517
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

NSW: 466 new cases. Five deaths.

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Date: 14/08/2021 11:12:23
From: Michael V
ID: 1777518
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


NSW: 466 new cases. Five Four deaths.

Corrected.

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Date: 14/08/2021 11:39:15
From: party_pants
ID: 1777525
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


NSW: 466 new cases. Five deaths.

fuckety fucking fuck :(

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Date: 14/08/2021 11:40:22
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1777526
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Michael V said:


Speedy said:

Michael V said:

QLD: seven new cases. Six locally acquired and one from overseas

All six local cases are linked to the Indro cluster.

The seven cases have not spent any time in the community during their infectious period.

Good!

:)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/covid-live-blog-latest-updates-nsw-vic-act-lockdown/100376634

Now why couldn’t we do that?

Because Gladys is arrogant and knows better than anyone else. She criticised Dan in Victoria for not having a good enough contact tracing system, when the truth was that COVID was out of control by the time they got onto it. She criticised other Premiers for “hard and fast lockdowns”. They do work. Being wishy-washy won’t cut it with Delta-COVID.

There was the initial limo-driver index-case. Next day there were three. By this stage, the index-case was known to be Delta-COVID and the other two were linked. That was the time to lock down. Now it’s just out of control. I feel so sorry for you and all the other people in Sydney.

Gladys has endangered the country.

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Date: 14/08/2021 11:57:06
From: buffy
ID: 1777533
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

I can’t see the testing numbers for NSW. Are they still managing enormous numbers of tests?

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Date: 14/08/2021 11:57:40
From: buffy
ID: 1777534
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


I can’t see the testing numbers for NSW. Are they still managing enormous numbers of tests?

I found it, 130,000.

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:01:49
From: buffy
ID: 1777538
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

I see there is to be a registration of singles bubble people. How to make more work. We’ve not done that in Victoria.

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:04:09
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777542
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


buffy said:

I can’t see the testing numbers for NSW. Are they still managing enormous numbers of tests?

I found it, 130,000.

so 0.01 times the Wuhan rate, nice

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:05:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777543
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:

I see there is to be a registration of singles bubble people. How to make more work. We’ve not done that in Victoria.

oh c’m‘on she wants it to be the toughest lockdown in Australia ever, plenty more welding to do

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:07:46
From: Michael V
ID: 1777547
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:


Michael V said:

Speedy said:

Now why couldn’t we do that?

Because Gladys is arrogant and knows better than anyone else. She criticised Dan in Victoria for not having a good enough contact tracing system, when the truth was that COVID was out of control by the time they got onto it. She criticised other Premiers for “hard and fast lockdowns”. They do work. Being wishy-washy won’t cut it with Delta-COVID.

There was the initial limo-driver index-case. Next day there were three. By this stage, the index-case was known to be Delta-COVID and the other two were linked. That was the time to lock down. Now it’s just out of control. I feel so sorry for you and all the other people in Sydney.

Gladys has endangered the country.

Quite.

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:08:47
From: Michael V
ID: 1777549
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


I can’t see the testing numbers for NSW. Are they still managing enormous numbers of tests?

There were 130,000 tests completed in the reporting period.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/nsw-records-466-cases-four-deaths-at-least-60-infectious/100377196

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:10:12
From: Woodie
ID: 1777551
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:


Michael V said:

Speedy said:

Now why couldn’t we do that?

Because Gladys is arrogant and knows better than anyone else. She criticised Dan in Victoria for not having a good enough contact tracing system, when the truth was that COVID was out of control by the time they got onto it. She criticised other Premiers for “hard and fast lockdowns”. They do work. Being wishy-washy won’t cut it with Delta-COVID.

There was the initial limo-driver index-case. Next day there were three. By this stage, the index-case was known to be Delta-COVID and the other two were linked. That was the time to lock down. Now it’s just out of control. I feel so sorry for you and all the other people in Sydney.

Gladys has endangered the country.

It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Minister should resign, and the Ambassador must be recalled!!

Oh…….. and Gladys Binchicken can GAGF.

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:12:51
From: Woodie
ID: 1777556
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


buffy said:

I can’t see the testing numbers for NSW. Are they still managing enormous numbers of tests?

I found it, 130,000.

I do recall Gladys say that testing rates weren’t high enough. “Go and get tested” she said. “We want the testing rate at least 40,000 per day”.

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:14:03
From: Michael V
ID: 1777558
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Woodie said:


sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

Because Gladys is arrogant and knows better than anyone else. She criticised Dan in Victoria for not having a good enough contact tracing system, when the truth was that COVID was out of control by the time they got onto it. She criticised other Premiers for “hard and fast lockdowns”. They do work. Being wishy-washy won’t cut it with Delta-COVID.

There was the initial limo-driver index-case. Next day there were three. By this stage, the index-case was known to be Delta-COVID and the other two were linked. That was the time to lock down. Now it’s just out of control. I feel so sorry for you and all the other people in Sydney.

Gladys has endangered the country.

It’s outrageous. I’m absolutely appalled. The Minister should resign, and the Ambassador must be recalled!!

Oh…….. and Gladys Binchicken can GAGF.

:)

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:15:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777561
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Woodie said:

buffy said:

buffy said:

I can’t see the testing numbers for NSW. Are they still managing enormous numbers of tests?

I found it, 130,000.

I do recall Gladys say that testing rates weren’t high enough. “Go and get tested” she said. “We want the testing rate at least 40,000 per day”.

of all the things we could complain about, she wasn’t wrong here was she

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:17:41
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1777566
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Woodie said:

buffy said:

I found it, 130,000.

I do recall Gladys say that testing rates weren’t high enough. “Go and get tested” she said. “We want the testing rate at least 40,000 per day”.

of all the things we could complain about, she wasn’t wrong here was she

She was, indeed, right about that.

Somewhat late in her urging, some would say too late.

But, she was indisputably right.

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:21:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777570
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Dark Orange said:


Michael V said:

Dark Orange said:

Any restrictions on how many times you can get tested per month?

Ha!

There is already a C’link payment for such instances that does not require actual proof of testing.

so basically they’re fking actual essential workers who have to do regular frequent nonisolating tests and still go to work

maybe they should pay each of them $160 per hit just to fair things up

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:30:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777576
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

cases recorded in the wider Dubbo region has jumped by 26 cases overnight

Fuck this is getting close to that fabled roentgenium standard that people talk about.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/western-nsw-lockdowns-likely-to-be-extended-amid-26-new-cases/100377324

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:46:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777593
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

maintenance

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-08-14/fears-covid-19-is-making-pink-snapper-too-rare/100369750

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:46:55
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1777594
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

“ The deaths include a woman in her 40s in palliative care who was unvaccinated”

She was going to die anyway…

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:47:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777595
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


“ The deaths include a woman in her 40s in palliative care who was unvaccinated”

She was going to die anyway…

palliative before or after COVID-19 though

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:48:20
From: buffy
ID: 1777598
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


“ The deaths include a woman in her 40s in palliative care who was unvaccinated”

She was going to die anyway…

Well you at least know why she was unvaccinated. It probably was considered too risky.

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Date: 14/08/2021 12:48:26
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1777599
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


poikilotherm said:

“ The deaths include a woman in her 40s in palliative care who was unvaccinated”

She was going to die anyway…

palliative before or after COVID-19 though

B4.

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Date: 14/08/2021 13:16:12
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1777616
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


“ The deaths include a woman in her 40s in palliative care who was unvaccinated”

She was going to die anyway…

I tried again to convince Margaret the mad to get vaccinated. The conversation ended like this…

>78 suicides in the last 30 days
Way more than Rona

So?

Double than usual

Are you planning to suicide so you dont get it?

No way lol

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Date: 14/08/2021 13:19:43
From: Speedy
ID: 1777619
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


SCIENCE said:

poikilotherm said:

“ The deaths include a woman in her 40s in palliative care who was unvaccinated”

She was going to die anyway…

palliative before or after COVID-19 though

B4.

It makes no difference. The truth is that she should never have been infected with Covid. A combination of vaccine ineligibility for her carers and visitors, and these ridiculous lockdown requirements are likely what failed her.

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Date: 14/08/2021 13:19:47
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1777620
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:


poikilotherm said:

“ The deaths include a woman in her 40s in palliative care who was unvaccinated”

She was going to die anyway…

I tried again to convince Margaret the mad to get vaccinated. The conversation ended like this…

>78 suicides in the last 30 days
Way more than Rona

So?

Double than usual

Are you planning to suicide so you dont get it?

No way lol

In 2018, 3,046 deaths by suicide were registered in Australia—an average of about 8 deaths per day—more than two and a half times that of the national road toll in the same year (1,135 road deaths) (BITRE 2019).

Suicide was the leading cause of death among people aged 15–44 in 2016–2018. See Causes of death. To some extent, this is due to the sound physical health of people in these age groups, with chronic diseases only beginning to feature more prominently among people aged over 45 (AIHW 2019).

Nonetheless, deaths by suicide are statistically rare events, with an age-standardised suicide rate of 12.1 deaths per 100,000 population in 2018.

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/australias-health/suicide-and-intentional-self-harm

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Date: 14/08/2021 13:22:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1777621
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:


poikilotherm said:

“ The deaths include a woman in her 40s in palliative care who was unvaccinated”

She was going to die anyway…

I tried again to convince Margaret the mad to get vaccinated. The conversation ended like this…

>78 suicides in the last 30 days
Way more than Rona

So?

Double than usual

Are you planning to suicide so you dont get it?

No way lol

Ah well, you tried.

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Date: 14/08/2021 14:02:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777633
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Bogsnorkler said:

sarahs mum said:

poikilotherm said:

“ The deaths include a woman in her 40s in palliative care who was unvaccinated”

She was going to die anyway…

I tried again to convince Margaret the mad to get vaccinated. The conversation ended like this…

>78 suicides in the last 30 days
Way more than Rona

So?

Double than usual

Are you planning to suicide so you dont get it?

No way lol

In 2018, 3,046 deaths by suicide were registered in Australia—an average of about 8 deaths per day—more than two and a half times that of the national road toll in the same year (1,135 road deaths) (BITRE 2019).

Suicide was the leading cause of death among people aged 15–44 in 2016–2018. See Causes of death. To some extent, this is due to the sound physical health of people in these age groups, with chronic diseases only beginning to feature more prominently among people aged over 45 (AIHW 2019).

Nonetheless, deaths by suicide are statistically rare events, with an age-standardised suicide rate of 12.1 deaths per 100,000 population in 2018.

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/australias-health/suicide-and-intentional-self-harm

so 78 is double the usual 240 is that what we’re meant to get out of this

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Date: 14/08/2021 14:08:20
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1777637
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Bogsnorkler said:

sarahs mum said:

I tried again to convince Margaret the mad to get vaccinated. The conversation ended like this…

>78 suicides in the last 30 days
Way more than Rona

So?

Double than usual

Are you planning to suicide so you dont get it?

No way lol

In 2018, 3,046 deaths by suicide were registered in Australia—an average of about 8 deaths per day—more than two and a half times that of the national road toll in the same year (1,135 road deaths) (BITRE 2019).

Suicide was the leading cause of death among people aged 15–44 in 2016–2018. See Causes of death. To some extent, this is due to the sound physical health of people in these age groups, with chronic diseases only beginning to feature more prominently among people aged over 45 (AIHW 2019).

Nonetheless, deaths by suicide are statistically rare events, with an age-standardised suicide rate of 12.1 deaths per 100,000 population in 2018.

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/australias-health/suicide-and-intentional-self-harm

so 78 is double the usual 240 is that what we’re meant to get out of this


ta.

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Date: 14/08/2021 14:30:37
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1777647
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:


SCIENCE said:

Bogsnorkler said:

In 2018, 3,046 deaths by suicide were registered in Australia—an average of about 8 deaths per day—more than two and a half times that of the national road toll in the same year (1,135 road deaths) (BITRE 2019).

Suicide was the leading cause of death among people aged 15–44 in 2016–2018. See Causes of death. To some extent, this is due to the sound physical health of people in these age groups, with chronic diseases only beginning to feature more prominently among people aged over 45 (AIHW 2019).

Nonetheless, deaths by suicide are statistically rare events, with an age-standardised suicide rate of 12.1 deaths per 100,000 population in 2018.

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/australias-health/suicide-and-intentional-self-harm

so 78 is double the usual 240 is that what we’re meant to get out of this


ta.


I passed this message on with link. I said I think your info is dodgy. She said she saw it on Tiktok..

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:06:21
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1777657
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:10:43
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1777659
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:



NSW: Is it fucked yet?

IIRC Melbs had a record of 760-something cases in one day. NSW is trying very hard to break that.

Looks like I won’t be seeing Hamilton in Sydney :(

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:14:04
From: buffy
ID: 1777662
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

So, are there still bits of Sydney itself that aren’t locked down?

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:18:44
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1777663
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

So, are there still bits of Sydney itself that aren’t locked down?

Seems like there are different definitions of “Sydney”. In my day, Greater Sydney stopped at the Nepean River at Emu Plains, now the whole Blue Mts are classed as “Greater Sydney”.

It’s my understanding that there are (theoretically) different parts of Sydney more locked down than others. In any case, whatever they’re doing, it’s not working.

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:21:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777664
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:

Divine Angel said:

sarahs mum said:


NSW: Is it fucked yet?

IIRC Melbs had a record of 760-something cases in one day. NSW is trying very hard to break that.

Looks like I won’t be seeing Hamilton in Sydney :(

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

So, are there still bits of Sydney itself that aren’t locked down?

guess it worked out pretty well then, managed to get there 6 or 7 weeks late, good news

All of regional New South Wales will be locked down from 5:00pm on Saturday. New South Wales Deputy Premier John Barilaro said the measures were designed to “minimise movement and protect our communities from the evolving COVID situation in Sydney”.

also

ACT COVID-19 cluster grows to seven as testing confirms first case has links to Greater Sydney outbreak

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/act-records-new-covid-case-cluster-grows-to-seven/100377246

thank Gutless for that

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:24:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777667
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

So, are there still bits of Sydney itself that aren’t locked down?

Bits where Gladys goes.

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:26:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777668
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Divine Angel said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

So, are there still bits of Sydney itself that aren’t locked down?

Seems like there are different definitions of “Sydney”. In my day, Greater Sydney stopped at the Nepean River at Emu Plains, now the whole Blue Mts are classed as “Greater Sydney”.

It’s my understanding that there are (theoretically) different parts of Sydney more locked down than others. In any case, whatever they’re doing, it’s not working.

but it is

cases in the restriction areas are stable and possibly even going down

cases in the affluent Corruption Coalition preferred areas are low

business lobby funding is good

a whole lot of Aboriginal people are about to get rekt

thousands of kilometres of state borders are going to leak and most of those borders are to Labor states

it’s working

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:26:27
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777669
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Tau.Neutrino said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

So, are there still bits of Sydney itself that aren’t locked down?

Bits where Gladys goes.

Secret underground tunnel network.

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:26:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777670
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Tau.Neutrino said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

So, are there still bits of Sydney itself that aren’t locked down?

Bits where Gladys goes.

¿ Ryde ?

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:27:48
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777671
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

So, are there still bits of Sydney itself that aren’t locked down?

Bits where Gladys goes.

¿ Ryde ?

Secret underground tunnel network.

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:28:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777672
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SA revokes NSW cross-border bubble with Broken Hill after coronavirus detected in sewage

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/sa-revokes-nsw-cross-border-bubble-after-covid-detection/100377618

Close the door when the shit smell is strong, but before cases come to light.

Smart move.

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:30:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1777673
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

So, are there still bits of Sydney itself that aren’t locked down?

Bits where Gladys goes.

¿ Ryde ?

She’s gotta ticket to.

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:31:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777675
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Bits where Gladys goes.

¿ Ryde ?

Secret underground tunnel network.

Gladysville Bridge Ain’t No Secret

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:35:13
From: Michael V
ID: 1777678
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:


SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Bits where Gladys goes.

¿ Ryde ?

She’s gotta ticket to.

LOL

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:36:01
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777680
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


SA revokes NSW cross-border bubble with Broken Hill after coronavirus detected in sewage

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/sa-revokes-nsw-cross-border-bubble-after-covid-detection/100377618

Close the door when the shit smell is strong, but before cases come to light.

Smart move.

1 Seal off the toilet with concrete. Border up entrance to toilet, put up closed sign.

2 Use a portable toilet with hazmat suit with special fittings.

3 Always empty portable toilet wearing hazmat suit.

4 Use flamethrower to clean portable toilet.

5 If anyone comes near you waving toilet paper, deter them with the flamethrower.

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:36:51
From: buffy
ID: 1777681
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/nsw-new-covid-rules-and-fines/100377514

I don’t think this is really any clearer than it was before.

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:41:03
From: buffy
ID: 1777682
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

OK, in Victoria, we have a Table of Restrictions on the Premier’s website. It’s pretty easy to read and understand. Is there something like this in NSW?

https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-08/210809%20-%20Restriction%20Changes.pdf

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:41:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777683
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Australia Was Actually Diamond Standard But Then Gutless Marketing Binchicken Wanted To Throw It All Away

Summary: someone suggests that sequencing hospitalised cases quickly might actually help pandemic control; someone suggests that no fucking shit Australia has been doing it for ages already.

Implications: many but one we’re thinking of just popping through is, if our biotech is so good, maybe we could actually do stuff like local mRNA vaccine production if there was just a little will despite all the denying pessimists.


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00482-5/fulltext

SARS-CoV-2 genome sequencing is embedded in academic and public health laboratories, but whether there are benefits to rapid sequencing in front-line hospital laboratories is unclear. We did rapid genome sequencing of SARS-CoV-2-positive nose and throat swabs from patients admitted to our hospital since July 7, 2021, to identify potential SARS-CoV-2 vaccine-escape variants for infection control and public health purposes. In addition, we did PCR-based genotyping of all new SARS-CoV-2 cases for three south London hospitals (Guy’s and St Thomas’, King’s College, and Princess Royal University) using the AusDiagnostics SARS-CoV-2 Typing Panel (16-well) on the AusDiagnostics HighPlex, sequencing any non-typeable results.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(21)00133-X/fulltext

A cornerstone of Australia’s ability to control COVID-19 has been effective border control with an extensive supervised quarantine programme. However, a rapid recrudescence of COVID-19 was observed in the state of Victoria in June, 2020. We aim to describe the genomic findings that located the source of this second wave and show the role of genomic epidemiology in the successful elimination of COVID-19 for a second time in Australia. In this observational, genomic epidemiological study, we did genomic sequencing of all laboratory-confirmed cases of COVID-19 diagnosed in Victoria, Australia between Jan 25, 2020, and Jan 31, 2021. We did phylogenetic analyses, genomic cluster discovery, and integrated results with epidemiological data (detailed information on demographics, risk factors, and exposure) collected via interview by the Victorian Government Department of Health. Genomic transmission networks were used to group multiple genomic clusters when epidemiological and genomic data suggested they arose from a single importation event and diversified within Victoria. To identify transmission of emergent lineages between Victoria and other states or territories in Australia, all publicly available SARS-CoV-2 sequences uploaded before Feb 11, 2021, were obtained from the national sequence sharing programme AusTrakka, and epidemiological data were obtained from the submitting laboratories. We did phylodynamic analyses to estimate the growth rate, doubling time, and number of days from the first local infection to the collection of the first sequenced genome for the dominant local cluster, and compared our growth estimates to previously published estimates from a similar growth phase of lineage B.1.1.7 (also known as the Alpha variant) in the UK.

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:42:29
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1777684
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/nsw-new-covid-rules-and-fines/100377514

At first I didn’t realise there was another horse and I’m thinking, that horse has way too many legs…

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:42:42
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777685
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Tau.Neutrino said:


SCIENCE said:

SA revokes NSW cross-border bubble with Broken Hill after coronavirus detected in sewage

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/sa-revokes-nsw-cross-border-bubble-after-covid-detection/100377618

Close the door when the shit smell is strong, but before cases come to light.

Smart move.

1 Seal off the toilet with concrete. Border up entrance to toilet, put up closed sign.

2 Use a portable toilet with hazmat suit with special fittings.

3 Always empty portable toilet wearing hazmat suit.

4 Use flamethrower to clean portable toilet.

5 If anyone comes near you waving toilet paper, deter them with the flamethrower.

so you mean build a 4625 km wall around the toilet

(search internet for “4625 km border” if in doubt)

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:43:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777686
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Divine Angel said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/nsw-new-covid-rules-and-fines/100377514

At first I didn’t realise there was another horse and I’m thinking, that horse has way too many legs…

NSW is a bit like that.

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:43:53
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777687
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/nsw-new-covid-rules-and-fines/100377514

I don’t think this is really any clearer than it was before.

Maybe its the same people.

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:47:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777691
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Not Porter

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:49:19
From: buffy
ID: 1777692
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Not Porter


Must be very localized.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:51:54
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777693
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Not Porter


I bet they are all thinking what a great idea that was.

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:54:18
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1777696
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Divine Angel said:


buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/nsw-new-covid-rules-and-fines/100377514

At first I didn’t realise there was another horse and I’m thinking, that horse has way too many legs…

sleipnir comes to mind.

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:57:59
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1777700
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Poo, poo, poo, poo, corn, poo, poo, corn, corn, poo, covid poo, covid poo, poo, cocaine, poo….

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Date: 14/08/2021 15:58:32
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1777703
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Anyhoo… here’s the situation at Mini Me’s school in response of the school outbreak in Qld.

Two weeks ago when lockdown was announced, the school sent an email strongly hinting lockdown would be extended. This email was sent 40 minutes after lockdown started on Saturday afternoon. The D of E said at-home learning would begin on Tuesday. So, I thought it was obvious that the lockdown would be extended at least to SEQ schools.

All this school term (Monday will be the start of Week 6), the D of E has mandated masks to be worn by all adults on school grounds, no volunteers in classrooms (tuck shop volunteers only), and mandatory QR codes for out-of-school-hours activity (incl the school musical, which was held the weekend before lockdown, so that was lucky).

This past week, as a direct result of the school outbreak, no parents allowed on school grounds at any time with the exception of collecting a sick kid from the office. Out of the 10 gates, only three will be open for the parent to drop kid off/pick kid up. Masks need to be worn outside these gates and social distancing applies. Tuckshop is online orders only, no over-the-counter sales. All staff (including the anti-mask chaplain lol) are required to wear masks at all times. Kids do not need to, although they can if the parent wants them to.

All excursions, incursions, at-school activities by third parties are postponed/cancelled. Example: the music bus and hip hop classes which are run by external parties at the school have moved to online classes, while the fundraising Colour Run has been postponed to next month.

Unrelated to these rules are the ongoing roadworks outside the school. The bus stop has been moved 500m up the road, plus a dozen parking spaces have been closed, making the whole situation incredibly frustrating.

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:10:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777707
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Yet Another Series Of Data Confirming That 100% Efficacy Against Death Means The Case Fatality Rate Decreased By Two Thirds

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:14:24
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777708
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Divine Angel said:


Anyhoo… here’s the situation at Mini Me’s school in response of the school outbreak in Qld.

Two weeks ago when lockdown was announced, the school sent an email strongly hinting lockdown would be extended. This email was sent 40 minutes after lockdown started on Saturday afternoon. The D of E said at-home learning would begin on Tuesday. So, I thought it was obvious that the lockdown would be extended at least to SEQ schools.

All this school term (Monday will be the start of Week 6), the D of E has mandated masks to be worn by all adults on school grounds, no volunteers in classrooms (tuck shop volunteers only), and mandatory QR codes for out-of-school-hours activity (incl the school musical, which was held the weekend before lockdown, so that was lucky).

This past week, as a direct result of the school outbreak, no parents allowed on school grounds at any time with the exception of collecting a sick kid from the office. Out of the 10 gates, only three will be open for the parent to drop kid off/pick kid up. Masks need to be worn outside these gates and social distancing applies. Tuckshop is online orders only, no over-the-counter sales. All staff (including the anti-mask chaplain lol) are required to wear masks at all times. Kids do not need to, although they can if the parent wants them to.

All excursions, incursions, at-school activities by third parties are postponed/cancelled. Example: the music bus and hip hop classes which are run by external parties at the school have moved to online classes, while the fundraising Colour Run has been postponed to next month.

Unrelated to these rules are the ongoing roadworks outside the school. The bus stop has been moved 500m up the road, plus a dozen parking spaces have been closed, making the whole situation incredibly frustrating.

Good to hear you and mini are all well DA.

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:17:19
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777709
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Tau.Neutrino said:


Divine Angel said:

Anyhoo… here’s the situation at Mini Me’s school in response of the school outbreak in Qld.

Two weeks ago when lockdown was announced, the school sent an email strongly hinting lockdown would be extended. This email was sent 40 minutes after lockdown started on Saturday afternoon. The D of E said at-home learning would begin on Tuesday. So, I thought it was obvious that the lockdown would be extended at least to SEQ schools.

All this school term (Monday will be the start of Week 6), the D of E has mandated masks to be worn by all adults on school grounds, no volunteers in classrooms (tuck shop volunteers only), and mandatory QR codes for out-of-school-hours activity (incl the school musical, which was held the weekend before lockdown, so that was lucky).

This past week, as a direct result of the school outbreak, no parents allowed on school grounds at any time with the exception of collecting a sick kid from the office. Out of the 10 gates, only three will be open for the parent to drop kid off/pick kid up. Masks need to be worn outside these gates and social distancing applies. Tuckshop is online orders only, no over-the-counter sales. All staff (including the anti-mask chaplain lol) are required to wear masks at all times. Kids do not need to, although they can if the parent wants them to.

All excursions, incursions, at-school activities by third parties are postponed/cancelled. Example: the music bus and hip hop classes which are run by external parties at the school have moved to online classes, while the fundraising Colour Run has been postponed to next month.

Unrelated to these rules are the ongoing roadworks outside the school. The bus stop has been moved 500m up the road, plus a dozen parking spaces have been closed, making the whole situation incredibly frustrating.

Good to hear you and mini are all well DA.

Would tap and pay work with Tuck shops, or click and collect ?

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:19:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777710
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Divine Angel said:


Anyhoo… here’s the situation at Mini Me’s school in response of the school outbreak in Qld.

Two weeks ago when lockdown was announced, the school sent an email strongly hinting lockdown would be extended. This email was sent 40 minutes after lockdown started on Saturday afternoon. The D of E said at-home learning would begin on Tuesday. So, I thought it was obvious that the lockdown would be extended at least to SEQ schools.

All this school term (Monday will be the start of Week 6), the D of E has mandated masks to be worn by all adults on school grounds, no volunteers in classrooms (tuck shop volunteers only), and mandatory QR codes for out-of-school-hours activity (incl the school musical, which was held the weekend before lockdown, so that was lucky).

This past week, as a direct result of the school outbreak, no parents allowed on school grounds at any time with the exception of collecting a sick kid from the office. Out of the 10 gates, only three will be open for the parent to drop kid off/pick kid up. Masks need to be worn outside these gates and social distancing applies. Tuckshop is online orders only, no over-the-counter sales. All staff (including the anti-mask chaplain lol) are required to wear masks at all times. Kids do not need to, although they can if the parent wants them to.

All excursions, incursions, at-school activities by third parties are postponed/cancelled. Example: the music bus and hip hop classes which are run by external parties at the school have moved to online classes, while the fundraising Colour Run has been postponed to next month.

Unrelated to these rules are the ongoing roadworks outside the school. The bus stop has been moved 500m up the road, plus a dozen parking spaces have been closed, making the whole situation incredibly frustrating.

anti-mask chaplain…

hmmm we have seen what happens to these sort of people.

:)

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:21:39
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1777712
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Tau.Neutrino said:

Would tap and pay work with Tuck shops, or click and collect ?

The school has an app which has the whole tuck shop menu. You just pick what you want, for which kid (for families with multiple kids), which lunch break, and pay all through the app. Meals are then taken to the classrooms and distributed to the kids.

But since I always make Mini Me’s lunches, I’ve never used it. Occasionally when I forget fruit break I have to get something from the tuck shop (fruit is a dollar) but they’ve stopped that too. Can’t even get the free bread at the moment!!

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:22:25
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1777713
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Tau.Neutrino said:

anti-mask chaplain…

hmmm we have seen what happens to these sort of people.

:)

I happen to know where he lives… Just down the road from me.

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:23:13
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1777714
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:24:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1777715
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

Less than 40 mins left for everyone to pass the virus on.

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:26:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777716
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

Less than 40 mins left for everyone to pass the virus on.

Supermarkets have toilet paper on special right now.

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:28:07
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1777717
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Bogsnorkler said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

Alt headline: ‘Gladys discovers bolt on stable door’.

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:29:03
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1777718
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

Alt headline: ‘Gladys discovers bolt on stable door’.

Heehee.

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:29:04
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1777719
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Divine Angel said:


Anyhoo… here’s the situation at Mini Me’s school in response of the school outbreak in Qld.

Two weeks ago when lockdown was announced, the school sent an email strongly hinting lockdown would be extended. This email was sent 40 minutes after lockdown started on Saturday afternoon. The D of E said at-home learning would begin on Tuesday. So, I thought it was obvious that the lockdown would be extended at least to SEQ schools.

All this school term (Monday will be the start of Week 6), the D of E has mandated masks to be worn by all adults on school grounds, no volunteers in classrooms (tuck shop volunteers only), and mandatory QR codes for out-of-school-hours activity (incl the school musical, which was held the weekend before lockdown, so that was lucky).

This past week, as a direct result of the school outbreak, no parents allowed on school grounds at any time with the exception of collecting a sick kid from the office. Out of the 10 gates, only three will be open for the parent to drop kid off/pick kid up. Masks need to be worn outside these gates and social distancing applies. Tuckshop is online orders only, no over-the-counter sales. All staff (including the anti-mask chaplain lol) are required to wear masks at all times. Kids do not need to, although they can if the parent wants them to.

All excursions, incursions, at-school activities by third parties are postponed/cancelled. Example: the music bus and hip hop classes which are run by external parties at the school have moved to online classes, while the fundraising Colour Run has been postponed to next month.

Unrelated to these rules are the ongoing roadworks outside the school. The bus stop has been moved 500m up the road, plus a dozen parking spaces have been closed, making the whole situation incredibly frustrating.

how do you get rid of the chaplain?

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:29:14
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777720
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

Alt headline: ‘Gladys discovers bolt on stable door’.

Alt headline 2: ‘Gladys discovers hinges broken on stable door’.

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:30:20
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1777721
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Tau.Neutrino said:


captain_spalding said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

Alt headline: ‘Gladys discovers bolt on stable door’.

Alt headline 2: ‘Gladys discovers hinges broken on stable door’.

Alt headline 3: ‘Gladys discovers that there is a stable door’.

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:33:21
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777722
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

captain_spalding said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

Alt headline: ‘Gladys discovers bolt on stable door’.

Alt headline 2: ‘Gladys discovers hinges broken on stable door’.

Alt headline 3: ‘Gladys discovers that there is a stable door’.

Alt headline 4: ‘Gladys discovers open stable doors can be closed’.

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:33:59
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1777723
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sarahs mum said:

how do you get rid of the chaplain?

Cough on him, I suppose.

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:36:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777724
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

Alt headline: ‘Gladys discovers bolt on stable door’.

Alt headline 2: ‘Gladys discovers hinges broken on stable door’.

Round Up Them Brumbies

oh wait in NSW rather than reining them in they protected them

hmmmmmmm

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:37:00
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1777725
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Divine Angel said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Would tap and pay work with Tuck shops, or click and collect ?

The school has an app which has the whole tuck shop menu. You just pick what you want, for which kid (for families with multiple kids), which lunch break, and pay all through the app. Meals are then taken to the classrooms and distributed to the kids.

But since I always make Mini Me’s lunches, I’ve never used it. Occasionally when I forget fruit break I have to get something from the tuck shop (fruit is a dollar) but they’ve stopped that too. Can’t even get the free bread at the moment!!

You cant live by fruit alone, sometimes you need bread.

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:37:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777726
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Alt headline 2: ‘Gladys discovers hinges broken on stable door’.

Alt headline 3: ‘Gladys discovers that there is a stable door’.

Alt headline 4: ‘Gladys discovers open stable doors can be closed’.

first it was unherd immunity, now it’s unstable outbreaks what next

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:37:56
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777727
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Alt headline : ‘Liberals discover “Lives over Profit”, means more than, “Profit over Lives’.

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:38:30
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1777728
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Peak Warming Man said:


Divine Angel said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Would tap and pay work with Tuck shops, or click and collect ?

The school has an app which has the whole tuck shop menu. You just pick what you want, for which kid (for families with multiple kids), which lunch break, and pay all through the app. Meals are then taken to the classrooms and distributed to the kids.

But since I always make Mini Me’s lunches, I’ve never used it. Occasionally when I forget fruit break I have to get something from the tuck shop (fruit is a dollar) but they’ve stopped that too. Can’t even get the free bread at the moment!!

You cant live by fruit alone, sometimes you need bread.

Luckily the flour allowance means there’s four kgs of flour in the cupboard.

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:41:55
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777729
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

captain_spalding said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

Alt headline: ‘Gladys discovers bolt on stable door’.

Alt headline 2: ‘Gladys discovers hinges broken on stable door’.

Alt headline 3: ‘Gladys discovers that there is a stable door’.

Alt headline 5: ‘Gladys takes weeks to make decision on closing stable door’.

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Date: 14/08/2021 16:42:05
From: buffy
ID: 1777730
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Divine Angel said:


Anyhoo… here’s the situation at Mini Me’s school in response of the school outbreak in Qld.

Two weeks ago when lockdown was announced, the school sent an email strongly hinting lockdown would be extended. This email was sent 40 minutes after lockdown started on Saturday afternoon. The D of E said at-home learning would begin on Tuesday. So, I thought it was obvious that the lockdown would be extended at least to SEQ schools.

All this school term (Monday will be the start of Week 6), the D of E has mandated masks to be worn by all adults on school grounds, no volunteers in classrooms (tuck shop volunteers only), and mandatory QR codes for out-of-school-hours activity (incl the school musical, which was held the weekend before lockdown, so that was lucky).

This past week, as a direct result of the school outbreak, no parents allowed on school grounds at any time with the exception of collecting a sick kid from the office. Out of the 10 gates, only three will be open for the parent to drop kid off/pick kid up. Masks need to be worn outside these gates and social distancing applies. Tuckshop is online orders only, no over-the-counter sales. All staff (including the anti-mask chaplain lol) are required to wear masks at all times. Kids do not need to, although they can if the parent wants them to.

All excursions, incursions, at-school activities by third parties are postponed/cancelled. Example: the music bus and hip hop classes which are run by external parties at the school have moved to online classes, while the fundraising Colour Run has been postponed to next month.

Unrelated to these rules are the ongoing roadworks outside the school. The bus stop has been moved 500m up the road, plus a dozen parking spaces have been closed, making the whole situation incredibly frustrating.

They could have run the hip-hop with the instructors outside the fence and the kids inside the fence. Weather permitting.

;)

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Date: 14/08/2021 17:43:44
From: Michael V
ID: 1777785
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

captain_spalding said:


Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-to-go-into-lockdown-from-5pm-today/100377702

Alt headline: ‘Gladys discovers bolt on stable door’.

LOLOLOLOL

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Date: 14/08/2021 17:50:31
From: dv
ID: 1777788
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Credit where credit is due…
Twice in the last week Morrison has acted very much like a PM.

https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-scott-morrison-backs-mark-mcgowans-vaccine-passport-measure-for-nsw-arrivals-into-wa-ng-b881968074z

Coronavirus crisis: Scott Morrison backs Mark McGowan’s vaccine passport measure for NSW arrivals into WA  “I do welcome the requirements for vaccination. This is for people who are otherwise getting an exemption to come into Western Australia, and the premier has added that is not unlikely sorts of things we have been talking about for some time, where people are vaccinated, and an exemption has been granted, but the vaccination aids that exemption being given on public health grounds.

“So I think that is really consistent with what the national plan is seeking to achieve, and as I said last week, all premiers and chief ministers agreed to that.”
—-

Earlier in the week he pointedly cast doubt on GB’s plan to begin easing restrictions once 50% of adults have had at lease 1 dose, saying it is not in line with the national caninet plan.

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Date: 14/08/2021 17:50:58
From: sibeen
ID: 1777789
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

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Date: 14/08/2021 17:52:09
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1777793
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sibeen said:



It used to be said the the most popular weekend activity in Canberra was leaving.

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Date: 14/08/2021 17:56:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1777794
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sibeen said:



LOLOL

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Date: 14/08/2021 17:56:50
From: sibeen
ID: 1777795
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

captain_spalding said:


sibeen said:


It used to be said the the most popular weekend activity in Canberra was leaving.

I lived there for 3 years and didn’t mind it.

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Date: 14/08/2021 17:58:06
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777797
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

captain_spalding said:


sibeen said:


It used to be said the the most popular weekend activity in Canberra was leaving.

One minute there can be lots of people, then suddenly ghost city.

Strange how Canberra does that.

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Date: 14/08/2021 18:01:16
From: Speedy
ID: 1777801
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

There have been two changes for Greater Sydney as follows:

- If we are using the singles bubble provisions, we must now specify who our friend is

- We can no longer go to our (non-existent) holiday home, unless it is for maintenance, and then only one of us can go

This is going to be tough, very tough, but I’m glad Gladys is onto things now.

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Date: 14/08/2021 18:03:27
From: Speedy
ID: 1777805
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

sibeen said:



Ha :)

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Date: 14/08/2021 18:05:27
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777807
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

All this is Chinas fault.

Have they found the person who started it yet?

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Date: 14/08/2021 18:09:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1777811
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Tau.Neutrino said:


All this is Chinas fault.

Have they found the person who started it yet?

Forensic genomics would help find that person.

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Date: 14/08/2021 18:17:39
From: Speedy
ID: 1777815
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Speedy said:


There have been two changes for Greater Sydney as follows:

- If we are using the singles bubble provisions, we must now specify who our friend is

- We can no longer go to our (non-existent) holiday home, unless it is for maintenance, and then only one of us can go

This is going to be tough, very tough, but I’m glad Gladys is onto things now.

Actually I just found another one which comes into force on Monday. I can only travel 5km from my home, not 10km, or anywhere within my LGA.

Mr Speedy can still travel to Gosford for work without a problem, where he will likely be in contact with people from regional areas.

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Date: 14/08/2021 18:21:08
From: buffy
ID: 1777818
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Speedy said:


Speedy said:

There have been two changes for Greater Sydney as follows:

- If we are using the singles bubble provisions, we must now specify who our friend is

- We can no longer go to our (non-existent) holiday home, unless it is for maintenance, and then only one of us can go

This is going to be tough, very tough, but I’m glad Gladys is onto things now.

Actually I just found another one which comes into force on Monday. I can only travel 5km from my home, not 10km, or anywhere within my LGA.

Mr Speedy can still travel to Gosford for work without a problem, where he will likely be in contact with people from regional areas.

Have you got this page Speedy?

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules

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Date: 14/08/2021 18:35:51
From: Ian
ID: 1777824
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

90 mins into lock-down.. same old…

But there has been a significant uptick in alcohol consumption.

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Date: 14/08/2021 18:40:00
From: party_pants
ID: 1777827
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Ian said:


90 mins into lock-down.. same old…

But there has been a significant uptick in alcohol consumption.

I might join you in that pastime shortly.

I think I have done enough sanding and sweeping up for one day. I wore a mask too.

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Date: 14/08/2021 18:40:47
From: Speedy
ID: 1777828
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


Speedy said:

Speedy said:

There have been two changes for Greater Sydney as follows:

- If we are using the singles bubble provisions, we must now specify who our friend is

- We can no longer go to our (non-existent) holiday home, unless it is for maintenance, and then only one of us can go

This is going to be tough, very tough, but I’m glad Gladys is onto things now.

Actually I just found another one which comes into force on Monday. I can only travel 5km from my home, not 10km, or anywhere within my LGA.

Mr Speedy can still travel to Gosford for work without a problem, where he will likely be in contact with people from regional areas.

Have you got this page Speedy?

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules

Yes, but I was told by a staff member at Service NSW not to rely on that page. She pointed me here:

https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/information/covid19-legislation/temporary-movement-gathering-restrictions

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Date: 14/08/2021 18:42:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777829
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Tau.Neutrino said:


captain_spalding said:

sibeen said:


It used to be said the the most popular weekend activity in Canberra was leaving.

One minute there can be lots of people, then suddenly ghost city.

Strange how Canberra does that.

yeah 1625 weekday and boom

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Date: 14/08/2021 18:45:46
From: buffy
ID: 1777832
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Ian said:


90 mins into lock-down.. same old…

But there has been a significant uptick in alcohol consumption.

Isn’t that normal for Saturday night?

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Date: 14/08/2021 18:46:38
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1777833
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


Ian said:

90 mins into lock-down.. same old…

But there has been a significant uptick in alcohol consumption.

Isn’t that normal for Saturday night?

Certainly the case chez nous.

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Date: 14/08/2021 19:26:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1777848
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

some fun times await

bring that HSC on NSW, bring it

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/11/covid-children-hospitals-schools-reopen-503885

Children’s hospitals are swamped with Covid patients — and it may only get worse

Nearly 1,600 kids with Covid-19 were hospitalized last week, according to the CDC — a new seven-day record and a 27 percent increase from the week before.

Tennessee’s health commissioner expects the state’s children’s hospitals to be full by the week’s end. Louisiana reached that point more than a week ago. And Arkansas’ only children’s hospital has just two ICU beds remaining.

As dire as the situation is now, hospital leaders and public health officials predict it will get even worse in the coming weeks. They are already contending with unseasonably high levels of RSV, a respiratory virus that can be dangerous for young children and infants. Flu season is on the horizon. And schools across the country are welcoming children back, creating opportunities for Covid-19 and other viruses to spread even faster.

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Date: 14/08/2021 19:34:59
From: Speedy
ID: 1777863
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


some fun times await

bring that HSC on NSW, bring it

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/11/covid-children-hospitals-schools-reopen-503885

Children’s hospitals are swamped with Covid patients — and it may only get worse

Nearly 1,600 kids with Covid-19 were hospitalized last week, according to the CDC — a new seven-day record and a 27 percent increase from the week before.

Tennessee’s health commissioner expects the state’s children’s hospitals to be full by the week’s end. Louisiana reached that point more than a week ago. And Arkansas’ only children’s hospital has just two ICU beds remaining.

As dire as the situation is now, hospital leaders and public health officials predict it will get even worse in the coming weeks. They are already contending with unseasonably high levels of RSV, a respiratory virus that can be dangerous for young children and infants. Flu season is on the horizon. And schools across the country are welcoming children back, creating opportunities for Covid-19 and other viruses to spread even faster.

NESA have postponed the exams for a week. During meetings last week, they were repeatedly asked what would happen if the situation deteriorates, but they had no Plan B.

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Date: 15/08/2021 17:10:49
From: buffy
ID: 1778146
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Here is the current one. But it’s nearly ready to self destruct. Only a few hours left.

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Date: 15/08/2021 17:24:40
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1778147
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


Here is the current one. But it’s nearly ready to self destruct. Only a few hours left.

You should probably wait 4-6 weeks before updating to be more gold standard like.

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Date: 15/08/2021 17:28:35
From: buffy
ID: 1778150
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

poikilotherm said:


buffy said:

Here is the current one. But it’s nearly ready to self destruct. Only a few hours left.

You should probably wait 4-6 weeks before updating to be more gold standard like.

We’ve seen the gold standard…

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Date: 15/08/2021 17:34:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1778152
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

we apologise

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Date: 15/08/2021 17:35:31
From: Michael V
ID: 1778153
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-15/police-investigate-pub-crawl-house-party/100378718

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Date: 15/08/2021 17:42:54
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1778154
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


we apologise

For everything?

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Date: 15/08/2021 17:44:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1778155
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

we apologise

For everything?

for pointing out that looks like it’s fattening

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Date: 15/08/2021 17:56:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1778156
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

NHS summer crisis: all over

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/nhs-dewsbury-yorkshire-surgery-delays-b1902096.html

Hospitals under pressure as the NHS calls in the military to shore up struggling ambulance services

All routine inpatient surgery at a hospital in Yorkshire is to be suspended from Monday to help the hospital trust cope with overcrowding in A&E caused by a lack of beds.

The situation has got so bad for ambulance trusts that the NHS has made a request for military aid, with 87 military staff drafted in to help the trusts in the northeast and southwest as well as the East of England Ambulance Service. More soldiers are due to start helping the NHS next week, in a sign of how serious the pressures on the health service have become.

Thank fuck they pulled them all out of Afghanistan hey hey¿

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Date: 15/08/2021 18:00:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1778157
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

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Date: 15/08/2021 18:05:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1778158
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Flames From The Sky

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/kerry-chant-pushed-for-tougher-measures-a-fortnight-ago-clennell/video/1408773489f47f0911a64c90c5b2b667

Sky News Political Editor Andrew Clennell says NSW Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant was pushing for tougher measures a fortnight ago but was rebuffed by Premier Berejiklian.

“Dr Chant has not been at press conferences for three days, she was instructed to take a couple of days off and rest,” Mr Clennell said.

“Internally, Gladys Berejiklian has been continuing to constantly talk about opening things up, even as case numbers continue to grow”.

The new state-wide lockdown was announced after New South Wales reported a record-breaking 466 cases on Saturday – a pandemic record for the state and a huge increase on Friday’s 390 cases.

“Gladys Berejiklian toughening measures yesterday, locking down the entire state via an afternoon statement and lifting fines on breaching home quarantine and the like from $1,000 to $5,000,” Mr Clennell said.

“But the premier did not put in place a ring of steel in Sydney or a curfew for hotspots nor did she mandate outdoor masks as other Australian jurisdictions have done.

“Gladys Berejiklian also introduced a $320 test and isolation payment for those who have to get a COVID test and miss work – lower than the $450 Victorian payment and confined to hotspots.

“And, after initially refusing a request from the police minister and police commissioner at crisis cabinet on a 5 kilometre exercise limit for all of metropolitan Sydney at a meeting on Friday, by late Friday night the premier had changed the policy and decided to announce the limit yesterday.”

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Date: 15/08/2021 18:07:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1778160
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/15/no-concept-of-how-awful-it-was-the-forgotten-world-of-pre-vaccine-childhood-in-australia

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Date: 15/08/2021 18:43:50
From: transition
ID: 1778170
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Flames From The Sky

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/kerry-chant-pushed-for-tougher-measures-a-fortnight-ago-clennell/video/1408773489f47f0911a64c90c5b2b667

fortunate thing borders are, States etc, not so much for whatever that might be inconvenienced by them, constrained

doesn’t do much for fantasies about a borderless world, but delta’s there waiting, ready to help with that

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Date: 15/08/2021 20:04:16
From: buffy
ID: 1778181
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

SCIENCE said:


Flames From The Sky

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/kerry-chant-pushed-for-tougher-measures-a-fortnight-ago-clennell/video/1408773489f47f0911a64c90c5b2b667

Sky News Political Editor Andrew Clennell says NSW Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant was pushing for tougher measures a fortnight ago but was rebuffed by Premier Berejiklian.

“Dr Chant has not been at press conferences for three days, she was instructed to take a couple of days off and rest,” Mr Clennell said.

“Internally, Gladys Berejiklian has been continuing to constantly talk about opening things up, even as case numbers continue to grow”.

The new state-wide lockdown was announced after New South Wales reported a record-breaking 466 cases on Saturday – a pandemic record for the state and a huge increase on Friday’s 390 cases.

“Gladys Berejiklian toughening measures yesterday, locking down the entire state via an afternoon statement and lifting fines on breaching home quarantine and the like from $1,000 to $5,000,” Mr Clennell said.

“But the premier did not put in place a ring of steel in Sydney or a curfew for hotspots nor did she mandate outdoor masks as other Australian jurisdictions have done.

“Gladys Berejiklian also introduced a $320 test and isolation payment for those who have to get a COVID test and miss work – lower than the $450 Victorian payment and confined to hotspots.

“And, after initially refusing a request from the police minister and police commissioner at crisis cabinet on a 5 kilometre exercise limit for all of metropolitan Sydney at a meeting on Friday, by late Friday night the premier had changed the policy and decided to announce the limit yesterday.”

Saw footage of Kerry Chant on the news tonight. She isn’t really looking happy.

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Date: 15/08/2021 20:08:44
From: party_pants
ID: 1778185
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

buffy said:


SCIENCE said:

Flames From The Sky

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/kerry-chant-pushed-for-tougher-measures-a-fortnight-ago-clennell/video/1408773489f47f0911a64c90c5b2b667

Sky News Political Editor Andrew Clennell says NSW Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant was pushing for tougher measures a fortnight ago but was rebuffed by Premier Berejiklian.

“Dr Chant has not been at press conferences for three days, she was instructed to take a couple of days off and rest,” Mr Clennell said.

“Internally, Gladys Berejiklian has been continuing to constantly talk about opening things up, even as case numbers continue to grow”.

The new state-wide lockdown was announced after New South Wales reported a record-breaking 466 cases on Saturday – a pandemic record for the state and a huge increase on Friday’s 390 cases.

“Gladys Berejiklian toughening measures yesterday, locking down the entire state via an afternoon statement and lifting fines on breaching home quarantine and the like from $1,000 to $5,000,” Mr Clennell said.

“But the premier did not put in place a ring of steel in Sydney or a curfew for hotspots nor did she mandate outdoor masks as other Australian jurisdictions have done.

“Gladys Berejiklian also introduced a $320 test and isolation payment for those who have to get a COVID test and miss work – lower than the $450 Victorian payment and confined to hotspots.

“And, after initially refusing a request from the police minister and police commissioner at crisis cabinet on a 5 kilometre exercise limit for all of metropolitan Sydney at a meeting on Friday, by late Friday night the premier had changed the policy and decided to announce the limit yesterday.”

Saw footage of Kerry Chant on the news tonight. She isn’t really looking happy.

happiness will prevail!

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Date: 15/08/2021 21:52:16
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1778209
Subject: re: COVID 9/8 to 15/8

Contact tracers hard at work…only a week late or so.

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