An ongoing apprehension towards total lockdown in NSW has come at an enormous cost
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-policy-in-nsw-proving-costly-ian-verrender-analysis/100379032
Liberal unlocked experiment crashes and burns.
Tau.Neutrino said:
An ongoing apprehension towards total lockdown in NSW has come at an enormous cost
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-policy-in-nsw-proving-costly-ian-verrender-analysis/100379032Liberal unlocked experiment crashes and burns.
As a health strategy, the soft lockdown approach has been an abject failure. From a national economic viewpoint, the ongoing apprehension about total lockdown has come at enormous cost.
Had NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian called a two-week lockdown when the Delta variant first appeared in beachside Bondi — and it worked — the total cost would have been less than $3 billion.
AMP Capital’s Shane Oliver last week put the total bill so far at $17 billion. And counting. With the variant now running rampant, the total could end up several times more, if it can be contained at all.
“Orange and neighbouring town Bathurst were added to NSW Health’s close contact list overnight, with three venues visited on Saturday, August 7, and Sunday, August 8.
Anyone who visited Village Bakehouse, between 10:50am and 12:10pm, and Byng Street Cafe, between 12:50pm and 1:10pm in Orange on Sunday, August 8, have now been advised to self-isolate for a full 14 days.
Bathurst Subway has also been added to the list for Saturday, August 7, between 12:50pm and 1:30pm.
Orange entered a snap lockdown in late July after a confirmed case was reported at a dog food factory in nearby Blayney.
The town saw zero additional cases during the initial lockdown.”
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Take care, poikilotherm and Mrs poikilotherm.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-regional-lockdown-cases/100378580
Michael V said:
“Orange and neighbouring town Bathurst were added to NSW Health’s close contact list overnight, with three venues visited on Saturday, August 7, and Sunday, August 8.Anyone who visited Village Bakehouse, between 10:50am and 12:10pm, and Byng Street Cafe, between 12:50pm and 1:10pm in Orange on Sunday, August 8, have now been advised to self-isolate for a full 14 days.
Bathurst Subway has also been added to the list for Saturday, August 7, between 12:50pm and 1:30pm.
Orange entered a snap lockdown in late July after a confirmed case was reported at a dog food factory in nearby Blayney.
The town saw zero additional cases during the initial lockdown.”
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Take care, poikilotherm and Mrs poikilotherm.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-regional-lockdown-cases/100378580
Thanks mv. Mrs poik is away for work atm.
Michael V said:
“Orange and neighbouring town Bathurst were added to NSW Health’s close contact list overnight, with three venues visited on Saturday, August 7, and Sunday, August 8.Anyone who visited Village Bakehouse, between 10:50am and 12:10pm, and Byng Street Cafe, between 12:50pm and 1:10pm in Orange on Sunday, August 8, have now been advised to self-isolate for a full 14 days.
Bathurst Subway has also been added to the list for Saturday, August 7, between 12:50pm and 1:30pm.
Orange entered a snap lockdown in late July after a confirmed case was reported at a dog food factory in nearby Blayney.
The town saw zero additional cases during the initial lockdown.”
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Take care, poikilotherm and Mrs poikilotherm.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-regional-lockdown-cases/100378580
Dad used to work at that dog food factory. It is (or was) owned by Nestle so every time I saw him he’d have a garbage bag worth of Nestle lollies.
Welcome to Regional NSW, where towns an hour apart are “neighbouring” lol. (Forty five minutes on a good day.)
Woo-hoo!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-regional-lockdown-cases/100378580
Michael V said:
Woo-hoo!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-regional-lockdown-cases/100378580
Pfft…off only 9,000 tests….Victoria did 30,000 yesterday and we’ve only got a million more people than Queensland. You needed to do 24,000 to match our testing rate!
It’ll be 12 weeks on Thursday since I had my first dose of AZ. I might give them a call to find out where I am on the list for the second.
sibeen said:
It’ll be 12 weeks on Thursday since I had my first dose of AZ. I might give them a call to find out where I am on the list for the second.
They should already have given you an appointment card.
NSW: 478 new local COVID-19 cases, seven deaths.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-regional-lockdown-cases/100378580
roughbarked said:
sibeen said:
It’ll be 12 weeks on Thursday since I had my first dose of AZ. I might give them a call to find out where I am on the list for the second.
They should already have given you an appointment card.
Yeah, I got booked in for the second shot when I got the first shot.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
sibeen said:
It’ll be 12 weeks on Thursday since I had my first dose of AZ. I might give them a call to find out where I am on the list for the second.
They should already have given you an appointment card.
Yeah, I got booked in for the second shot when I got the first shot.
Was told an email would be sent.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:They should already have given you an appointment card.
Yeah, I got booked in for the second shot when I got the first shot.
Was told an email would be sent.
A polite reminder might be in order :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:Yeah, I got booked in for the second shot when I got the first shot.
Was told an email would be sent.
A polite reminder might be in order :)
Michael V said:
NSW: 478 new local COVID-19 cases, seven deaths.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-regional-lockdown-cases/100378580
The ABC is actually showing both seven and eight deaths on its front page. Someone is in a quantum state and needs a box opened.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
NSW: 478 new local COVID-19 cases, seven deaths.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-regional-lockdown-cases/100378580
The ABC is actually showing both seven and eight deaths on its front page. Someone is in a quantum state and needs a box opened.
Surely they shouldn’t even be in the box until confirmed dead?
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
sibeen said:
It’ll be 12 weeks on Thursday since I had my first dose of AZ. I might give them a call to find out where I am on the list for the second.
They should already have given you an appointment card.
Yeah, I got booked in for the second shot when I got the first shot.
Me too.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Woo-hoo!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-regional-lockdown-cases/100378580
Pfft…off only 9,000 tests….Victoria did 30,000 yesterday and we’ve only got a million more people than Queensland. You needed to do 24,000 to match our testing rate!
NSW records 478 new local COVID-19 cases. There have also been seven deaths recorded overnight.
There were 157,000 tests taken during the reporting period.
So that’s how NSW finds so many cases. By using the Trump strategy.
“One new local COVID-19 case recorded in the Northern Territory.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-regional-lockdown-cases/100378580
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Woo-hoo!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-regional-lockdown-cases/100378580
Pfft…off only 9,000 tests….Victoria did 30,000 yesterday and we’ve only got a million more people than Queensland. You needed to do 24,000 to match our testing rate!
NSW records 478 new local COVID-19 cases. There have also been seven deaths recorded overnight.
There were 157,000 tests taken during the reporting period.
So that’s how NSW finds so many cases. By using the Trump strategy.
NSW needs to reduce the number of deaths. Qld has had 7 since the start of the pandemic.
sibeen said:
It’ll be 12 weeks on Thursday since I had my first dose of AZ. I might give them a call to find out where I am on the list for the second.
Mr buffy was 12 weeks last week and has an appointment for this week. It’s still a matter of supply. I’m due in September.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Woo-hoo!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-regional-lockdown-cases/100378580
Pfft…off only 9,000 tests….Victoria did 30,000 yesterday and we’ve only got a million more people than Queensland. You needed to do 24,000 to match our testing rate!
NSW records 478 new local COVID-19 cases. There have also been seven deaths recorded overnight.
There were 157,000 tests taken during the reporting period.
So that’s how NSW finds so many cases. By using the Trump strategy.
Apparently. Makes both Victoria and Queensland look like we aren’t trying. NSW is the most populous state. Victoria has 0.77 of their population. Queensland has ) 0.62. So Vic needed to do 120,000 tests and Qld needed to do 97,000 for porportionate testing. If my maths is right.
How are their labs keeping up with that volume?
buffy said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:Pfft…off only 9,000 tests….Victoria did 30,000 yesterday and we’ve only got a million more people than Queensland. You needed to do 24,000 to match our testing rate!
NSW records 478 new local COVID-19 cases. There have also been seven deaths recorded overnight.
There were 157,000 tests taken during the reporting period.
So that’s how NSW finds so many cases. By using the Trump strategy.
Apparently. Makes both Victoria and Queensland look like we aren’t trying. NSW is the most populous state. Victoria has 0.77 of their population. Queensland has ) 0.62. So Vic needed to do 120,000 tests and Qld needed to do 97,000 for porportionate testing. If my maths is right.
How are their labs keeping up with that volume?
I don’t think they are completely. Results can take some days, apparently.
Really?
Venue owners in regional Victoria say they’re still getting visitors from Melbourne
Regional Victorian venue owners have been forced to turn away hundreds of Melbourne visitors in breach of coronavirus restrictions.
One Bendigo restaurant turned away more than 50 Melburnians over the weekend, while Warrnambool venues refused entry to more than one hundred Melburnians on Saturday night.
Ian Green is chair of Bendigo’s Great Stupa Buddist site and says they had to be extra cautious checking IDs after groups of unwanted visitors.
“We had four groups come and when I checked their ID, it was clear they were from Melbourne and we had to say unfortunately due to regulations, you cannot attend.”ABC live updates
Looks like a curfew for Victoria.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:They should already have given you an appointment card.
Yeah, I got booked in for the second shot when I got the first shot.
Me too.
Me three.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:Yeah, I got booked in for the second shot when I got the first shot.
Me too.
Me three.
We went early and we have supply issues at the GP practices here.
buffy said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Me too.
Me three.
We went early and we have supply issues at the GP practices here.
Now booked in for the 27th for second dose.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
Woodie said:Me three.
We went early and we have supply issues at the GP practices here.
Now booked in for the 27th for second dose.
Jolly good.
Get mine on the 24th.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
buffy said:We went early and we have supply issues at the GP practices here.
Now booked in for the 27th for second dose.
Jolly good.
Get mine on the 24th.
It’s not a race.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
Woodie said:Me three.
We went early and we have supply issues at the GP practices here.
Now booked in for the 27th for second dose.
Good!
:)
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:Now booked in for the 27th for second dose.
Jolly good.
Get mine on the 24th.
It’s not a race.
:)
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:Now booked in for the 27th for second dose.
Jolly good.
Get mine on the 24th.
It’s not a race.
Yes it is, and I am losing…
(September 10.)
My second is next month too but I can’t remember the date. I’ll ask them tomorrow morning when I go in to have blood taken.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
NSW: 478 new local COVID-19 cases, seven deaths.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-regional-lockdown-cases/100378580
The ABC is actually showing both seven and eight deaths on its front page. Someone is in a quantum state and needs a box opened.
Surely they shouldn’t even be in the box until confirmed dead?
maybe it’s the box that’s in the quantum superposition
sibeen said:
buffy said:
Woodie said:Me three.
We went early and we have supply issues at the GP practices here.
Now booked in for the 27th for second dose.
Mine is 7th Sept, and has been since the first prick.
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:The ABC is actually showing both seven and eight deaths on its front page. Someone is in a quantum state and needs a box opened.
Surely they shouldn’t even be in the box until confirmed dead?
maybe it’s the box that’s in the quantum superposition
Maybe this is the superposed death.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/boy-15-years-old-dies-with-covid-19-osama-subuh/100379396
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
buffy said:We went early and we have supply issues at the GP practices here.
Now booked in for the 27th for second dose.
Mine is 7th Sept, and has been since the first prick.
So by mid-september we should all be well and truly above average vaccinees.
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
buffy said:We went early and we have supply issues at the GP practices here.
Now booked in for the 27th for second dose.
Mine is 7th Sept, and has been since the first prick.
Tomorrow. Mine is tomorrow…
One very, very pissed off Miss 17 in this house. Her 18th birthday is on the 11th of next month and the chances of her being able to celebrate with any friends is taking a large nosedive.
Woodie said:
sibeen said:Now booked in for the 27th for second dose.
Mine is 7th Sept, and has been since the first prick.
Hey, steady up!
sibeen said:
One very, very pissed off Miss 17 in this house. Her 18th birthday is on the 11th of next month and the chances of her being able to celebrate with any friends is taking a large nosedive.
Let her know she is welcome to drop in here :)
sibeen said:
One very, very pissed off Miss 17 in this house. Her 18th birthday is on the 11th of next month and the chances of her being able to celebrate with any friends is taking a large nosedive.
Who need friends when you can drink beer… alone… at home…. in your room… with the lights off.
Dark Orange said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Surely they shouldn’t even be in the box until confirmed dead?
maybe it’s the box that’s in the quantum superposition
Maybe this is the superposed death.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/boy-15-years-old-dies-with-covid-19-osama-subuh/100379396
Very sad, whatever the actual cause of death.
Booked in for jab next week.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Dark Orange said:
SCIENCE said:maybe it’s the box that’s in the quantum superposition
Maybe this is the superposed death.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/boy-15-years-old-dies-with-covid-19-osama-subuh/100379396Very sad, whatever the actual cause of death.
Was that the one I heard on the radio yesterday who had pneumococcal meningitis?
Yes, I see it is:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/boy-15-years-old-dies-with-covid-19-osama-subuh/100379396
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Dark Orange said:Maybe this is the superposed death.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/boy-15-years-old-dies-with-covid-19-osama-subuh/100379396Very sad, whatever the actual cause of death.
Was that the one I heard on the radio yesterday who had pneumococcal meningitis?
Yes, I see it is:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/boy-15-years-old-dies-with-covid-19-osama-subuh/100379396
Sorry, same link. Didn’t look hard enough.
‘Tipping point’: The Melbourne lockdown has been extended by 2 weeks, with a curfew and worker permit system to return
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/melbourne-lockdown-six-extended-lockdown-authorised-worker
buffy said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Very sad, whatever the actual cause of death.
Was that the one I heard on the radio yesterday who had pneumococcal meningitis?
Yes, I see it is:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/boy-15-years-old-dies-with-covid-19-osama-subuh/100379396
Sorry, same link. Didn’t look hard enough.
apparently breaching the blood brain barrier can cause complications
Large construction projects will be restricted to 25 per cent of their workforce, mobile pet grooming and letterboxing will be banned, and religious broadcasts will be limted to five people.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/victoria-new-local-covid-cases-melbourne-lockdown/100379330
FIIK how they are going to make sure there’s only 5 people listening in on a broadcast.
:)
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:buffy said:
Was that the one I heard on the radio yesterday who had pneumococcal meningitis?
Yes, I see it is:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/boy-15-years-old-dies-with-covid-19-osama-subuh/100379396
Sorry, same link. Didn’t look hard enough.
apparently breaching the blood brain barrier can cause complications
Meningitis is never good, regardless of the causative organism.
sibeen said:
Large construction projects will be restricted to 25 per cent of their workforce, mobile pet grooming and letterboxing will be banned, and religious broadcasts will be limted to five people.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/victoria-new-local-covid-cases-melbourne-lockdown/100379330
FIIK how they are going to make sure there’s only 5 people listening in on a broadcast.
:)
Shrugs.
Can’t be certain I suppose, but it seems a reasonable assumption.
sibeen said:
One very, very pissed off Miss 17 in this house. Her 18th birthday is on the 11th of next month and the chances of her being able to celebrate with any friends is taking a large nosedive.
Bugger.
Tasmania will close its border to Greater Darwin and Katherine from 4pm today.
❌ Victoria
❌ ACT
❌ New South Wales
❌ Greater Darwin and Katherine
❌ South-east Queensland and parts of Far North Queensland
❌ High-risk premises in Western Australia
ABC Hobart
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
One very, very pissed off Miss 17 in this house. Her 18th birthday is on the 11th of next month and the chances of her being able to celebrate with any friends is taking a large nosedive.
Bugger.
+1.
Speedy Jnr is enjoying this lockdown so far, as it means he does not need to deal with the mental load of socialising with anyone. A few text messages here and there are sufficient, thank you. Now that one of his HSC exams has been postponed and he no longer needs to sit it on his birthday, life is sweet.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Large construction projects will be restricted to 25 per cent of their workforce, mobile pet grooming and letterboxing will be banned, and religious broadcasts will be limted to five people.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/victoria-new-local-covid-cases-melbourne-lockdown/100379330
FIIK how they are going to make sure there’s only 5 people listening in on a broadcast.
:)
Shrugs.
Can’t be certain I suppose, but it seems a reasonable assumption.
Haha :)
Speedy said:
Tasmania will close its border to Greater Darwin and Katherine from 4pm today.
❌ Victoria
❌ ACT
❌ New South Wales
❌ Greater Darwin and Katherine
❌ South-east Queensland and parts of Far North Queensland
❌ High-risk premises in Western AustraliaABC Hobart
Here I am trying to figure out if I come under the Essential Traveller category to get into Tas.. When in lock down I’m an Essential Worker.. I’m wondering if this will count as I’m relocating and not travelling..
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
One very, very pissed off Miss 17 in this house. Her 18th birthday is on the 11th of next month and the chances of her being able to celebrate with any friends is taking a large nosedive.
Bugger.
+1.
Speedy Jnr is enjoying this lockdown so far, as it means he does not need to deal with the mental load of socialising with anyone. A few text messages here and there are sufficient, thank you. Now that one of his HSC exams has been postponed and he no longer needs to sit it on his birthday, life is sweet.
:)
Spider Lily said:
Speedy said:
Tasmania will close its border to Greater Darwin and Katherine from 4pm today.
❌ Victoria
❌ ACT
❌ New South Wales
❌ Greater Darwin and Katherine
❌ South-east Queensland and parts of Far North Queensland
❌ High-risk premises in Western AustraliaABC Hobart
Here I am trying to figure out if I come under the Essential Traveller category to get into Tas.. When in lock down I’m an Essential Worker.. I’m wondering if this will count as I’m relocating and not travelling..
Take a 14 day sking holiday in NZ and then fly into Tas from there.
Spider Lily said:
Speedy said:
Tasmania will close its border to Greater Darwin and Katherine from 4pm today.
❌ Victoria
❌ ACT
❌ New South Wales
❌ Greater Darwin and Katherine
❌ South-east Queensland and parts of Far North Queensland
❌ High-risk premises in Western AustraliaABC Hobart
Here I am trying to figure out if I come under the Essential Traveller category to get into Tas.. When in lock down I’m an Essential Worker.. I’m wondering if this will count as I’m relocating and not travelling..
Can you get a note from your (new) supervisor?
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:Bugger.
+1.
Speedy Jnr is enjoying this lockdown so far, as it means he does not need to deal with the mental load of socialising with anyone. A few text messages here and there are sufficient, thank you. Now that one of his HSC exams has been postponed and he no longer needs to sit it on his birthday, life is sweet.
:)
this kind of good news story could go well in the media, balance all the pessimists who think we should kill a few hundred preschoolers so that Year 12 can get back to school and superspread over some stressful examinations
not kidding
ABC News:
‘Boy, 15, dies in Sydney hospital after contracting pneumococcal meningitis and COVID-19’
Just another sacrifice to Gladys’s soft-lockdown altar to the god of commercial activity.
Michael V said:
Can you get a note from your (new) supervisor?
Might have to do this.. still have another week or so before I need to make decisions. If I’m ok to get in via this way, I can isolate in my own home for 2 weeks. I could handle that and have plenty to do :)
Spider Lily said:
Michael V said:Can you get a note from your (new) supervisor?
Might have to do this.. still have another week or so before I need to make decisions. If I’m ok to get in via this way, I can isolate in my own home for 2 weeks. I could handle that and have plenty to do :)
:)
There seems to be no end to Palmer’s idiocy.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/clive-palmer-sues-wa-again-over-border-rules/100380754
Michael V said:
There seems to be no end to Palmer’s idiocy.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/clive-palmer-sues-wa-again-over-border-rules/100380754
It’s the vibe.
Spider Lily said:
Michael V said:Can you get a note from your (new) supervisor?
Might have to do this.. still have another week or so before I need to make decisions. If I’m ok to get in via this way, I can isolate in my own home for 2 weeks. I could handle that and have plenty to do :)
Are you on fb SL?
I’m not legible to go to the Redoubt now.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m not legible to go to the Redoubt now.
You’re a hard man to read, for sure.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m not legible to go to the Redoubt now.
I certainly can’t read you from that distance.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m not legible to go to the Redoubt now.
You’re a hard man to read, for sure.
Yea, what the el is e on about.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m not legible to go to the Redoubt now.
Just go over it again in black marker.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m not legible to go to the Redoubt now.
https://www.qld.gov.au/health/conditions/health-alerts/coronavirus-covid-19/current-status/public-health-directions/travelling-to-queensland#nsw-border-zone-essential-work
At the bottom of the page:
I think you could make a case for an exemption.
Michael V said:
There seems to be no end to Palmer’s idiocy.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/clive-palmer-sues-wa-again-over-border-rules/100380754
I agree what a cnut.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Michael V said:
There seems to be no end to Palmer’s idiocy.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/clive-palmer-sues-wa-again-over-border-rules/100380754
I agree what a cnut.
Someone needs to declare him as a vexatious litigant.
furious said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Michael V said:
There seems to be no end to Palmer’s idiocy.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/clive-palmer-sues-wa-again-over-border-rules/100380754
I agree what a cnut.
Someone needs to declare him as a vexatious litigant.
+1
Have had tradies start work again on Scumbletown Hospital today. They have been building across the road for a few years now. The cranes got taken down about the time NSW went to shit.
Oh dear
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Have had tradies start work again on Scumbletown Hospital today. They have been building across the road for a few years now. The cranes got taken down about the time NSW went to shit.
Everything’s been turned on it’s head.
So now Dan has shown the way by reinstating the curfew, will Gladys feel happier about going harder?
Peak Warming Man said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Have had tradies start work again on Scumbletown Hospital today. They have been building across the road for a few years now. The cranes got taken down about the time NSW went to shit.
Everything’s been turned on it’s head.
Obviously it’s from the other hemisphere.
Speedy said:
Are you on fb SL?
I is :)
Spider Lily said:
Speedy said:Are you on fb SL?
I is :)
Are you on That’s it! I’m moving to Tassie, and That’s it! I’m moving to Tassie (the unedited truth) pages?
It might be worthwhile checking there to see what others’ experiences are, but I can’t see any posts. Many pages, especially travel pages, have banned Covid restrictions-speak as it’s clogging them up.
Speedy said:
Are you on That’s it! I’m moving to Tassie, and That’s it! I’m moving to Tassie (the unedited truth) pages?
It might be worthwhile checking there to see what others’ experiences are, but I can’t see any posts. Many pages, especially travel pages, have banned Covid restrictions-speak as it’s clogging them up.
Thanks Speedy.. Just joined the unedited page, see if it is any help :)
furious said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Michael V said:
There seems to be no end to Palmer’s idiocy.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/clive-palmer-sues-wa-again-over-border-rules/100380754
I agree what a cnut.
Someone needs to declare him as a vexatious litigant.
but there’s money to be made
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
‘Boy, 15, dies in Sydney hospital after contracting pneumococcal meningitis and COVID-19’
Just another sacrifice to Gladys’s soft-lockdown altar to the god of commercial activity.
we mean even if he tested negative for COVID-19, if the facility is full of COVID-19 then you’re basically fucked anyway if you actually need a higher level of care
SCIENCE said:
furious said:Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
I agree what a cnut.
Someone needs to declare him as a vexatious litigant.
but there’s money to be made
By the lawyers.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Have had tradies start work again on Scumbletown Hospital today. They have been building across the road for a few years now. The cranes got taken down about the time NSW went to shit.
Everything’s been turned on it’s head.
Obviously it’s from the other hemisphere.
years laugh out loud
does it have 3000 beds
can it be done in 10 days
Obviousman said:
SCIENCE said:
furious said:
Someone needs to declare him as a vexatious litigant.
but there’s money to be made
By the lawyers.
Yes, and it would take a lawyer to declare someone vexatious so the conclusion.
I’ll just drop this chart in here and let you comment on it.
mollwollfumble said:
I’ll just drop this chart in here and let you comment on it.
now do West Taiwan or similar
91 cases in Dubbo. 😕
Plenty of people under 60 wanting the AZ shot too.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/melbourne-visitors-try-to-sneak-into-regional-victoria/100380806
I let our local policeman know that about half a dozen caravans arrived into our little park yesterday. We’ve had three caravans and a campervan there for weeks, but I think this new lot was a new group travelling together by the way they have camped. I didn’t go out of my way to tell him, we were chatting at the bakery this morning. I think he might have gone and checked on them. I haven’t actually seen the people, they could well be grey nomads travelling intrastate.
roentgenium
SCIENCE said:
nice videohttps://twitter.com/i/status/1427213366737752066
“In Georgia last week, around 7 out of every 100,000 children in the state—not per 100,000 pediatric coronavirus cases, but per living child—were hospitalized for Covid-19…”
That’s pretty crook.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/16/nsw-covid-update-hopes-of-lighter-lockdown-fade-after-reaching-record-478-new-cases
For PWM. You can get a permit – agriculture is seen as essential. But there’s a few hoops you’ll have to jump through:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/queensland-nsw-border-bubble-explainer/100379594
Michael V said:
For PWM. You can get a permit – agriculture is seen as essential. But there’s a few hoops you’ll have to jump through:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/queensland-nsw-border-bubble-explainer/100379594
PWM is hardly an agricultural worker.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
For PWM. You can get a permit – agriculture is seen as essential. But there’s a few hoops you’ll have to jump through:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/queensland-nsw-border-bubble-explainer/100379594
PWM is hardly an agricultural worker.
He’d probably start talking about ergs?
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
For PWM. You can get a permit – agriculture is seen as essential. But there’s a few hoops you’ll have to jump through:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/queensland-nsw-border-bubble-explainer/100379594
PWM is hardly an agricultural worker.
Plus I think we should encourage people to abide by the restrictions and not look for ways around them that bend the rules.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
For PWM. You can get a permit – agriculture is seen as essential. But there’s a few hoops you’ll have to jump through:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/queensland-nsw-border-bubble-explainer/100379594
PWM is hardly an agricultural worker.
He’d probably start talking about ergs?
He needs to control his erges.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
For PWM. You can get a permit – agriculture is seen as essential. But there’s a few hoops you’ll have to jump through:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/queensland-nsw-border-bubble-explainer/100379594
PWM is hardly an agricultural worker.
He’d probably start talking about ergs?
10−7 joules?
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
For PWM. You can get a permit – agriculture is seen as essential. But there’s a few hoops you’ll have to jump through:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/queensland-nsw-border-bubble-explainer/100379594
PWM is hardly an agricultural worker.
Plus I think we should encourage people to abide by the restrictions and not look for ways around them that bend the rules.
So, who is going to check his fences and tend his cattle?
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:PWM is hardly an agricultural worker.
Plus I think we should encourage people to abide by the restrictions and not look for ways around them that bend the rules.
So, who is going to check his fences and tend his cattle?
I thought they were purely agisted cattle.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:Plus I think we should encourage people to abide by the restrictions and not look for ways around them that bend the rules.
So, who is going to check his fences and tend his cattle?
I thought they were purely agisted cattle.
In which case this should largely be the responsibility of the owner of the cattle?
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:Plus I think we should encourage people to abide by the restrictions and not look for ways around them that bend the rules.
So, who is going to check his fences and tend his cattle?
I thought they were purely agisted cattle.
If that’s the case (and I don’t know) then fair enough.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:So, who is going to check his fences and tend his cattle?
I thought they were purely agisted cattle.
In which case this should largely be the responsibility of the owner of the cattle?
Entirely.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
For PWM. You can get a permit – agriculture is seen as essential. But there’s a few hoops you’ll have to jump through:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/queensland-nsw-border-bubble-explainer/100379594
PWM is hardly an agricultural worker.
He’d probably start talking about ergs?
I don’t understand what your point.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:So, who is going to check his fences and tend his cattle?
I thought they were purely agisted cattle.
If that’s the case (and I don’t know) then fair enough.
yes, but I don’t know if they are. they may also be escapees from his neighbour cos the creek has washed the fence out. Or aliens could have returned them to the wrong property.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:PWM is hardly an agricultural worker.
He’d probably start talking about ergs?
I don’t understand what your point.
work.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:He’d probably start talking about ergs?
I don’t understand what your point.
work.
Ah.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:PWM is hardly an agricultural worker.
Plus I think we should encourage people to abide by the restrictions and not look for ways around them that bend the rules.
So, who is going to check his fences and tend his cattle?
You can attend your “secondary” residence for purposes of maintenance. Yep, the dunny needs a clean and the kitchen benches need a dust. That’s maintenance isn’t it?
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronavirus/2021/08/17/coronavirus-australian-leaders-slow-learners/
Morrison is now telling the nation “it is clear that for the lockdown to work it must work” – one of the more facile statements from the national leader, but at least he has twigged to their purpose
I believe I alluded to that very fact yesterday.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:Plus I think we should encourage people to abide by the restrictions and not look for ways around them that bend the rules.
So, who is going to check his fences and tend his cattle?
You can attend your “secondary” residence for purposes of maintenance. Yep, the dunny needs a clean and the kitchen benches need a dust. That’s maintenance isn’t it?
All true. It also would’t be the first time where if he doesn’t show up and keep claim on his title that the owner of the cattle may change the locks on the gates.
nothing like entitlement that my needs override the needs of the many.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:Plus I think we should encourage people to abide by the restrictions and not look for ways around them that bend the rules.
So, who is going to check his fences and tend his cattle?
You can attend your “secondary” residence for purposes of maintenance. Yep, the dunny needs a clean and the kitchen benches need a dust. That’s maintenance isn’t it?
I think the cross-border rules are much tighter than that. Emergency maintenance only.
Bogsnorkler said:
nothing like entitlement that my needs override the needs of the many.
You see, teachers of today would be attempting to reduce your concept of entitlement. Particularly the female teachers.
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:So, who is going to check his fences and tend his cattle?
You can attend your “secondary” residence for purposes of maintenance. Yep, the dunny needs a clean and the kitchen benches need a dust. That’s maintenance isn’t it?
I think the cross-border rules are much tighter than that. Emergency maintenance only.
Yes, all crossings must be for essential purposes only.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
nothing like entitlement that my needs override the needs of the many.
You see, teachers of today would be attempting to reduce your concept of entitlement. Particularly the female teachers.
Michael V said:
For PWM. You can get a permit – agriculture is seen as essential. But there’s a few hoops you’ll have to jump through:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/queensland-nsw-border-bubble-explainer/100379594
Thanks MV, I’ll have a read of it later but I have been keeping up with the changes.
QLD: one new community case. In home quarantine.
Good.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-lockdown-cases-press-conference/100381858
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-dipped-into-covax-pfizer-stockpile-intended-for-poor-nations-20210816-p58j2j.html
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-dipped-into-covax-pfizer-stockpile-intended-for-poor-nations-20210816-p58j2j.html
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-dipped-into-covax-pfizer-stockpile-intended-for-poor-nations-20210816-p58j2j.html
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:You can attend your “secondary” residence for purposes of maintenance. Yep, the dunny needs a clean and the kitchen benches need a dust. That’s maintenance isn’t it?
I think the cross-border rules are much tighter than that. Emergency maintenance only.
Yes, all crossings must be for essential purposes only.
It is essential that I mow the lawn. A fire risk, you know.
…
New South Wales residents will continue to live under COVID-19 restrictions long after the majority of the state is fully vaccinated, Premier Gladys Berejiklian says.
well that was a concession of sorts
SCIENCE said:
…New South Wales residents will continue to live under COVID-19 restrictions long after the majority of the state is fully vaccinated, Premier Gladys Berejiklian says.
well that was a concession of sorts
What is “majority”? 51%? Is that single or double dosed?
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:So, who is going to check his fences and tend his cattle?
You can attend your “secondary” residence for purposes of maintenance. Yep, the dunny needs a clean and the kitchen benches need a dust. That’s maintenance isn’t it?
All true. It also would’t be the first time where if he doesn’t show up and keep claim on his title that the owner of the cattle may change the locks on the gates.
That sounds like rubbish. How could he lose title to his land?
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Woodie said:You can attend your “secondary” residence for purposes of maintenance. Yep, the dunny needs a clean and the kitchen benches need a dust. That’s maintenance isn’t it?
All true. It also would’t be the first time where if he doesn’t show up and keep claim on his title that the owner of the cattle may change the locks on the gates.
That sounds like rubbish. How could he lose title to his land?
By not paying the maintenence on the land when the person leasing the land is spending on it. For a long enough period.
I’m not saying it can succeed in the courts btoday but it has definitely been to court before.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:All true. It also would’t be the first time where if he doesn’t show up and keep claim on his title that the owner of the cattle may change the locks on the gates.
That sounds like rubbish. How could he lose title to his land?
By not paying the maintenence on the land when the person leasing the land is spending on it. For a long enough period.
I’m not saying it can succeed in the courts btoday but it has definitely been to court before.
I have not the pleasure of understanding you.
SCIENCE said:
…New South Wales residents will continue to live under COVID-19 restrictions long after the majority of the state is fully vaccinated, Premier Gladys Berejiklian says.
well that was a concession of sorts
reality can be a slow grind, a grinding grind, that’s why preventing much of it, preventing things from happening, which possibly may sound unappealingly inhibiting, even repressive, but large part of self-aware conscious brains function that way, from a perspective that also includes an idea of what was prevented from happening, it’s not a wildly liberating idea on the face of it, granted, but the idea it should be wildly liberating is probably not very sane, I mean if you optimized liberating views would it be the same as maximizing them, would maximizing them result in them being (less) than optimal, i’d expect quite likely
Flutracker has changed its graph. Not quite sure what this one means.
I think that what we’re supposed to notice is that July 2021 fever + cough is higher than July 2020.
Another Covidiot. (Sigh.)
Two months in jail…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/man-jailed-after-travelling-from-sydney-to-armidale-on-train/100383312
COVID-19, 700000 deaths, hospitals fkt, meh
autonomous vehicle, 1 death, 17 injuries, INVESTIGATE
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/elon-musk-tesla-us-autopilot-investigation/100383470
Autopilot has frequently been misused by Tesla drivers, who have been caught driving drunk or even, in one case, riding in the back seat while a car rolled down a California highway.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/new-zealand-records-new-covid-case-auckland/100383846
The case is located in Auckland and the source of infection is yet to be established.
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern rushed back to the capital Wellington from Auckland to attend the cabinet meeting on next steps avoid being stuck in the hotspot more like, state broadcaster TVNZ reported.
Michael V said:
Another Covidiot. (Sigh.)Two months in jail…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/man-jailed-after-travelling-from-sydney-to-armidale-on-train/100383312
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Another Covidiot. (Sigh.)Two months in jail…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/man-jailed-after-travelling-from-sydney-to-armidale-on-train/100383312
- months in solitary confinement is what they need.
and then this genius line
The Victorian Council for Civil Liberties also questioned whether there was any evidence to support the reintroduction of a curfew. “Merely making policing easier should not be a foundation for such restrictions on our freedom of movement,” it said in a tweet. Chief Commissioner Shane Patton said the first evening of the curfew had been a “quieter night”, with little enforcement action taken.
remember how there was supposedly no evidence that masks worked
remember how before vaccines, there was no evidence that vaccines worked, and yet they pumped thousands of millions of dollars into developing potential vaccines
SCIENCE said:
COVID-19, 700000 deaths, hospitals fkt, mehautonomous vehicle, 1 death, 17 injuries, INVESTIGATE
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/elon-musk-tesla-us-autopilot-investigation/100383470
Autopilot has frequently been misused by Tesla drivers, who have been caught driving drunk or even, in one case, riding in the back seat while a car rolled down a California highway.
Autopilot is disabled in Australian vehicles.
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
COVID-19, 700000 deaths, hospitals fkt, meh
autonomous vehicle, 1 death, 17 injuries, INVESTIGATE
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/elon-musk-tesla-us-autopilot-investigation/100383470
Autopilot has frequently been misused by Tesla drivers, who have been caught driving drunk or even, in one case, riding in the back seat while a car rolled down a California highway.
Autopilot is disabled in Australian vehicles.
fair, we only use cruise control, and we don’t complain about seat belts and air bags
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
COVID-19, 700000 deaths, hospitals fkt, meh
autonomous vehicle, 1 death, 17 injuries, INVESTIGATE
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/elon-musk-tesla-us-autopilot-investigation/100383470
Autopilot has frequently been misused by Tesla drivers, who have been caught driving drunk or even, in one case, riding in the back seat while a car rolled down a California highway.
Autopilot is disabled in Australian vehicles.
fair, we only use cruise control, and we don’t complain about seat belts and air bags
I wrong. It is ‘summon’ that is disabled.
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:sarahs mum said:
Autopilot is disabled in Australian vehicles.
fair, we only use cruise control, and we don’t complain about seat belts and air bags
I wrong. It is ‘summon’ that is disabled.
Cool McCool used to just whistle.
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:
Bogsnorkler said:
This is a very bad thing.
COVID live updates: Virus has breached St George hospital cancer ward, NSW Health confirms.…
New South Wales residents will continue to live under COVID-19 restrictions long after the majority of the state is fully vaccinated, Premier Gladys Berejiklian says.
well that was a concession of sorts
reality can be a slow grind, a grinding grind, that’s why preventing much of it, preventing things from happening, which possibly may sound unappealingly inhibiting, even repressive, but large part of self-aware conscious brains function that way, from a perspective that also includes an idea of what was prevented from happening, it’s not a wildly liberating idea on the face of it, granted, but the idea it should be wildly liberating is probably not very sane, I mean if you optimized liberating views would it be the same as maximizing them, would maximizing them result in them being (less) than optimal, i’d expect quite likely
the state recorded 452 new infections and another death
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/nsw-records-452-new-covid-cases-one-death/100382358
Sixteen new cases were detected in Dubbo, while there were also 10 infections detected in the Hunter/New England Local Health District (LHD). One new case was found in each of the Central Coast, Illawarra and, for the first time in the current outbreak, Broken Hill. That case was a person who lives in the Far West Local Health District, NSW Health’s Jeremy McAnulty said. “The person has been infectious for some days and has been in Broken Hill and Wilcannia,” he said.
Guess the sewage detections were right then¿
“We envisage that case numbers in the next two or three weeks will bounce around and are likely to rise substantially and we have to brace ourselves for that, but our key aim will be keeping people out of hospital and keeping people alive and that’s why the vaccination rate obviously helps us with that,” she said.
You mean “bounce around” like the quadratic growth we’ve been seeing for the past 2 months then¿
(yes we know an argument could be made that it looks more cubic, but we have no good plausible causal explanation for that at this stage)
Meanwhle, health authorities in NSW are no longer listing every metropolitan COVID-19 exposure site publicly. Dr McAnulty said while all COVID-19 exposure venues would continue to be listed in regional areas, that had not been the case in Sydney for several days. “We’ve learned that people get lost in the detail when we put up venues that we don’t think are risky places on the website or in the media,” Dr McAnulty said.
Anything like how the complexity of “you’re in lockdown on this side of the road, but you’re free to superspread on the other side” got people lost and states mired in foreverCOVID¿
New Zealand to go into snap 3-day lockdown following COVID case in Auckland
They detected one (1) case and are shutting down the country for 3 days. Auckland will be locked down for 7.
Gladys…oh Gladys, this is called a sharp lock down.
sibeen said:
New Zealand to go into snap 3-day lockdown following COVID case in AucklandThey detected one (1) case and are shutting down the country for 3 days. Auckland will be locked down for 7.
Gladys…oh Gladys, this is called a sharp lock down.
That’s not gold standard response though.
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
New Zealand to go into snap 3-day lockdown following COVID case in Auckland
They detected one (1) case and are shutting down the country for 3 days. Auckland will be locked down for 7.
Gladys…oh Gladys, this is called a sharp lock down.
That’s not gold standard response though.
What Will Marketing Say
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announces a snap three-day lockdown after a single case of COVID-19.
She warned it was important to act quickly, noting: “We’ve seen the dire consequences of taking too long to act in other countries, not least our neighbours.”
I wonder who she is talking about?
sibeen said:
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announces a snap three-day lockdown after a single case of COVID-19.She warned it was important to act quickly, noting: “We’ve seen the dire consequences of taking too long to act in other countries, not least our neighbours.”
I wonder who she is talking about?
Cook Islands, probably.
sibeen said:
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announces a snap three-day lockdown after a single case of COVID-19.She warned it was important to act quickly, noting: “We’ve seen the dire consequences of taking too long to act in other countries, not least our neighbours.”
I wonder who she is talking about?
I spy a pair of burning ears.
sibeen said:
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announces a snap three-day lockdown after a single case of COVID-19.She warned it was important to act quickly, noting: “We’ve seen the dire consequences of taking too long to act in other countries, not least our neighbours.”
I wonder who she is talking about?
Nearest neighbours across the Pacific I suppose.
Chile and Peru.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Another Covidiot. (Sigh.)Two months in jail…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/man-jailed-after-travelling-from-sydney-to-armidale-on-train/100383312
- months in solitary confinement is what they need.
and then this genius line
The Victorian Council for Civil Liberties also questioned whether there was any evidence to support the reintroduction of a curfew. “Merely making policing easier should not be a foundation for such restrictions on our freedom of movement,” it said in a tweet. Chief Commissioner Shane Patton said the first evening of the curfew had been a “quieter night”, with little enforcement action taken.
remember how there was supposedly no evidence that masks worked
remember how before vaccines, there was no evidence that vaccines worked, and yet they pumped thousands of millions of dollars into developing potential vaccines
merely
mighty just this or that
clearly
like a cat sat on a mat
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2021/aug/17/australia-covid-sydney-melbourne-victoria-canberra-darwin-katherine-berejiklian-gladys-andrews-corona-virus-police-adf
Overt on the gran’s covid updates. Can someone work and tell me what he is trying to say?
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2021/aug/17/australia-covid-sydney-melbourne-victoria-canberra-darwin-katherine-berejiklian-gladys-andrews-corona-virus-police-adf
Overt on the gran’s covid updates. Can someone work and tell me what he is trying to say?
No, sorry. I’m not sure at all.
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2021/aug/17/australia-covid-sydney-melbourne-victoria-canberra-darwin-katherine-berejiklian-gladys-andrews-corona-virus-police-adf
Overt on the gran’s covid updates. Can someone work and tell me what he is trying to say?
Maybe he’s talking about people who defend mask wearing but balk at curfews.
buffy said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2021/aug/17/australia-covid-sydney-melbourne-victoria-canberra-darwin-katherine-berejiklian-gladys-andrews-corona-virus-police-adf
Overt on the gran’s covid updates. Can someone work and tell me what he is trying to say?
No, sorry. I’m not sure at all.
I cannot for the life of me work out whether he’s pro curfew or anti. He’s Australia’s former deputy chief medical officer and I cannot work out what he’s trying to get across. That’s not a good look.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2021/aug/17/australia-covid-sydney-melbourne-victoria-canberra-darwin-katherine-berejiklian-gladys-andrews-corona-virus-police-adf
Overt on the gran’s covid updates. Can someone work and tell me what he is trying to say?
No, sorry. I’m not sure at all.
I cannot for the life of me work out whether he’s pro curfew or anti. He’s Australia’s former deputy chief medical officer and I cannot work out what he’s trying to get across. That’s not a good look.
Don’t tell us, tell him.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
buffy said:No, sorry. I’m not sure at all.
I cannot for the life of me work out whether he’s pro curfew or anti. He’s Australia’s former deputy chief medical officer and I cannot work out what he’s trying to get across. That’s not a good look.
Don’t tell us, tell him.
There’s over 3000 comments on the live blog, I suspect any comment I made may, just may, get lost in the noise.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
buffy said:No, sorry. I’m not sure at all.
I cannot for the life of me work out whether he’s pro curfew or anti. He’s Australia’s former deputy chief medical officer and I cannot work out what he’s trying to get across. That’s not a good look.
Don’t tell us, tell him.
he’s drawing attention to some people being curfew hesitant, is my reading
there are all sorts of hesitancy, i’m covid hesitant for example, shy of TV, propaganda reticent
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:I cannot for the life of me work out whether he’s pro curfew or anti. He’s Australia’s former deputy chief medical officer and I cannot work out what he’s trying to get across. That’s not a good look.
Don’t tell us, tell him.
he’s drawing attention to some people being curfew hesitant, is my reading
there are all sorts of hesitancy, i’m covid hesitant for example, shy of TV, propaganda reticent
Maybe he is saying, if masks work, what’s the point of a curfew? Or not, I don’t know…
at least The Planet Is Healing there
furious said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Don’t tell us, tell him.
he’s drawing attention to some people being curfew hesitant, is my reading
there are all sorts of hesitancy, i’m covid hesitant for example, shy of TV, propaganda reticent
Maybe he is saying, if masks work, what’s the point of a curfew? Or not, I don’t know…
fair, why make any rules at all
SCIENCE said:
at least The Planet Is Healing there
Not a rare event anymore. Breeding like rabbits in Sichuan sanctuaries.
SCIENCE said:
Yeah, the right time to ask that question of comorbidities was when South Korea brought up the topic in Feb 2020.
I was always asking it through Australia’s first wave.
Why do people keep asking questions a year and a half too late?
so apparently we were wrong, these shootings are going to have to happen every closer to 4.5 months, not every 3 months, that’s a 50% error on our part and quite terrible
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/us-booster-vaccines-eight-months-jab/100385442
Experts in the United States are expected to recommend COVID-19 vaccine boosters for all Americans, regardless of age, eight months after they received their second dose of the shot, to ensure lasting protection against the coronavirus as the Delta variant spreads across the country.
we hang our heads in shame like a polyhydra or a cerebruspendisse or something
missing: ground truth
SCIENCE said:
missing: ground truth
we suppose now we know what it feels like to be in Sverige and have all manner of covidiots worldwide banging on about What About CHINA Sweden and so forth
laugh out loud disclaimer: we’ve never lived in Bankstown but we know some people there and of more than 1 of them, only 1 of them has reported seeing military garb recently
(we assume they’ve been out for normal things like groceries and exercise and beach parties and nightclubbing oh all right maybe not the last 2 then)
And then there is this…
Awkward shopping centre ‘anti-vax’ protest ruthlessly mocked online over confusing signs
SCIENCE said:
missing: ground truth
probably worth remembering some people, perhaps not a few, post stuff into social media so that for a brief moment at least it might vanish from their own mind how ignorable they are
the reality is most people are ignoring most other people most of the time, the world mostly functions on that, that sort of space
it’s not said much, but the alternative is a dog’s breakfast
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
missing: ground truth
probably worth remembering some people, perhaps not a few, post stuff into social media so that for a brief moment at least it might vanish from their own mind how ignorable they are
the reality is most people are ignoring most other people most of the time, the world mostly functions on that, that sort of space
it’s not said much, but the alternative is a dog’s breakfast
That said, Nate silver is a fairly well known commentator and statistician. It appears that doesn’t stop him talking out of his arse.
well it’s finally real for those politicians there we suppose they call it a canberra bubble for a reason
oh wait it’s a shadow minister so good luck squeezing out any empathy from those who are actually in charge
Victorian Health Department made several unexpected wastewater detections in regional and residential Victoria, including in Shepparton and Lakes Entrance, and have asked residents to remain on the lookout for symptoms.
The department said they are concerned about unexpected detections of COVID-19 fragments in wastewater in Shepparton on August 10, 11 and 13, and in Lakes Entrance from August 9 to 11.
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SMH
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regional Victorians might want to stop running around superspreading for a few days
I don’t normally bother with this data, because it changes so rapidly.
But since the number of cases in Australia are growing so rapidly, I thought you might want to compare it with the rest of the world.
Biweekly change in the number of cases per capita. ie. are things getting worse or better, casewise.
The countries where the number of cases are growing more rapidly than they are in Australia (as a percentage) are:
Canada, Japan, Romania, Lithuania, Sudan, Ethiopia, Belize.
All of these come as a surprise to me, particularly Canada.
A lot of countries where the situation used to be horriffic are getting better, in particular all of South America, southern Africa, Indonesia, Malaysia, Russia, India and parts of northern Africa.
Here’s Australia and Canada per capita cases compared. Cases are rising faster per capita in Canada than in Australia.
I don’t see why people are complaining about the speed of the vaccine roll-out – DON’T answer that. This is Australia’s new vaccinations, increasing day by day, and even accelerating. Australia’s vaccine roll-out rate per capita is in the top 10% of countries worldwide, and no large country has a vaccine roll-out rate more than twice Australia’s. From fastest, the vaccine roll-out rates are:
As for testing, it’s well known that Australia conducts more unnecessary Covid than just about any other country. Matched only by New Zealand, Singapore and Czechia. The next down from those does only half as much unnecessary testing. PS, the worst countries for insufficient testing are Mexico and Oman.
I had a long chat with my very COVID vaccine-hesitant 90-year-old mother yesterday evening. She’s recently had the AZ vax! A nurse came around (Mum is house-bound). She didn’t feel the needle and had no reaction whatsoever. She normally gets quite a strong site-reaction to the annual flu-vax.
I’m so pleased.
:)
NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian yesterday warned case numbers will continue to surge in coming weeks after the state reported 452 new local cases and the death of a woman in her 70s.
“We are assuming the case numbers will go up. I say that only as a realist … when you have cumulative days of high case numbers there is a tipping point where case numbers go up,” she said.
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very passive, we’d choose a word other than “realist” we think, “roentgenium” perhaps, but hey under marketing whatever happens is god’s will, why try to fight it
Michael V said:
I had a long chat with my very COVID vaccine-hesitant 90-year-old mother yesterday evening. She’s recently had the AZ vax! A nurse came around (Mum is house-bound). She didn’t feel the needle and had no reaction whatsoever. She normally gets quite a strong site-reaction to the annual flu-vax.I’m so pleased.
:)
Get mine at 2pm today :)
Spider Lily said:
Michael V said:
I had a long chat with my very COVID vaccine-hesitant 90-year-old mother yesterday evening. She’s recently had the AZ vax! A nurse came around (Mum is house-bound). She didn’t feel the needle and had no reaction whatsoever. She normally gets quite a strong site-reaction to the annual flu-vax.I’m so pleased.
:)
Get mine at 2pm today :)
Excellent!
:)
Also, see:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/tasmania-reopen-border-with-queensland-covid-update/100360156
https://www.coronavirus.tas.gov.au/travellers-and-visitors/coming-to-tasmania/low-risk-areas
Michael V said:
Excellent!
:)
Also, see:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/tasmania-reopen-border-with-queensland-covid-update/100360156
https://www.coronavirus.tas.gov.au/travellers-and-visitors/coming-to-tasmania/low-risk-areas
Yes I was informed of this yesterday when I gave them a call.. Good news. My house still isn’t ready to move into just yet so I still have time to continue enjoying the joys of Sunshine Coast.. Possibly leave at the end of this month, all going well :)
Spider Lily said:
Michael V said:Excellent!
:)
Also, see:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/tasmania-reopen-border-with-queensland-covid-update/100360156
https://www.coronavirus.tas.gov.au/travellers-and-visitors/coming-to-tasmania/low-risk-areas
Yes I was informed of this yesterday when I gave them a call.. Good news. My house still isn’t ready to move into just yet so I still have time to continue enjoying the joys of Sunshine Coast.. Possibly leave at the end of this month, all going well :)
Excellent. Lets hope the Sunshine Coast doesn’t have to go into lockdown again in that time. Fingers crossed.
:)
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/australia-should-return-covax-vaccines-says-ex-indonesian-minister-20210817-p58jkm.html
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/tasmania-reopen-border-with-queensland-covid-update/100360156
since when has Tassie had a border with queensland???
plus congrats to your mum.
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/australia-should-return-covax-vaccines-says-ex-indonesian-minister-20210817-p58jkm.html
So, is Indonesia a ‘poor country’?
Just recently, they were trying to buy 15 Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft from Austria. They’re locked in to buy Su-35 fighters from Russia, they want to buy more F-16s from America, and they were making noises about buying 48 Dassault Rafale fighters from France.
Can’t chip in for vaccines, but they’re not so poor when it comes to shopping for weapons.
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/australia-should-return-covax-vaccines-says-ex-indonesian-minister-20210817-p58jkm.html
So, is Indonesia a ‘poor country’?
Just recently, they were trying to buy 15 Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft from Austria. They’re locked in to buy Su-35 fighters from Russia, they want to buy more F-16s from America, and they were making noises about buying 48 Dassault Rafale fighters from France.
Can’t chip in for vaccines, but they’re not so poor when it comes to shopping for weapons.
yeah, same was said in the comments. I guess #whataboutism is a common trait.
Bogsnorkler said:
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/australia-should-return-covax-vaccines-says-ex-indonesian-minister-20210817-p58jkm.html
So, is Indonesia a ‘poor country’?
Just recently, they were trying to buy 15 Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft from Austria. They’re locked in to buy Su-35 fighters from Russia, they want to buy more F-16s from America, and they were making noises about buying 48 Dassault Rafale fighters from France.
Can’t chip in for vaccines, but they’re not so poor when it comes to shopping for weapons.
yeah, same was said in the comments. I guess #whataboutism is a common trait.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronavirus/2021/08/18/katy-gallagher-covid-daughter-kids-risk/
Tamb said:
Bogsnorkler said:
captain_spalding said:So, is Indonesia a ‘poor country’?
Just recently, they were trying to buy 15 Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft from Austria. They’re locked in to buy Su-35 fighters from Russia, they want to buy more F-16s from America, and they were making noises about buying 48 Dassault Rafale fighters from France.
Can’t chip in for vaccines, but they’re not so poor when it comes to shopping for weapons.
yeah, same was said in the comments. I guess #whataboutism is a common trait.
They should return Papua (which they call Irian Jaya) to its rightful owners.
for sure. but you don’t hear a squeak from the australian government about that.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/nsw/sydney/2021/08/18/covid-vaccination-blitz-young-australians/?
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
missing: ground truth
probably worth remembering some people, perhaps not a few, post stuff into social media so that for a brief moment at least it might vanish from their own mind how ignorable they are
the reality is most people are ignoring most other people most of the time, the world mostly functions on that, that sort of space
it’s not said much, but the alternative is a dog’s breakfast
I suppose that’s a reality of sorts.
I prefer to see the reality that most people are interacting with other people most of the time though.
sibeen said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
missing: ground truth
probably worth remembering some people, perhaps not a few, post stuff into social media so that for a brief moment at least it might vanish from their own mind how ignorable they are
the reality is most people are ignoring most other people most of the time, the world mostly functions on that, that sort of space
it’s not said much, but the alternative is a dog’s breakfast
That said, Nate silver is a fairly well known commentator and statistician. It appears that doesn’t stop him talking out of his arse.
+1
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
missing: ground truth
probably worth remembering some people, perhaps not a few, post stuff into social media so that for a brief moment at least it might vanish from their own mind how ignorable they are
the reality is most people are ignoring most other people most of the time, the world mostly functions on that, that sort of space
it’s not said much, but the alternative is a dog’s breakfast
I suppose that’s a reality of sorts.
I prefer to see the reality that most people are interacting with other people most of the time though.
socialite!!!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2021-08-18/covid-19-vaccines-how-they-trigger-an-immune-response-body/100381186
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
missing: ground truth
probably worth remembering some people, perhaps not a few, post stuff into social media so that for a brief moment at least it might vanish from their own mind how ignorable they are
the reality is most people are ignoring most other people most of the time, the world mostly functions on that, that sort of space
it’s not said much, but the alternative is a dog’s breakfast
I suppose that’s a reality of sorts.
I prefer to see the reality that most people are interacting with other people most of the time though.
I guess that’s the obvious dimension of sociable tendencies, jails are probably not underpopulated with people of which that is mostly all they feel, and outside jails they often are medicated, ritalin and whatever for example
but somewhere back even before your ancestors went bipedal on the african savanna there emerged the tendency to not just mind your own business, but a sense of the further benefit from that of appearing as if you (whatever example, not you) really do mind your business
anyway, even if you pointed to hypersociability, there would be limiting mechanisms, necessarily, needed more so it can be argued
i’d be very surprised if some attributes of psychological mindededness involved in and required of self-aware consciousness didn’t commonly and substantially lend to limiting troubles of potential oversociability, across the species, of modern humans
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:probably worth remembering some people, perhaps not a few, post stuff into social media so that for a brief moment at least it might vanish from their own mind how ignorable they are
the reality is most people are ignoring most other people most of the time, the world mostly functions on that, that sort of space
it’s not said much, but the alternative is a dog’s breakfast
I suppose that’s a reality of sorts.
I prefer to see the reality that most people are interacting with other people most of the time though.
I guess that’s the obvious dimension of sociable tendencies, jails are probably not underpopulated with people of which that is mostly all they feel, and outside jails they often are medicated, ritalin and whatever for example
but somewhere back even before your ancestors went bipedal on the african savanna there emerged the tendency to not just mind your own business, but a sense of the further benefit from that of appearing as if you (whatever example, not you) really do mind your business
anyway, even if you pointed to hypersociability, there would be limiting mechanisms, necessarily, needed more so it can be argued
i’d be very surprised if some attributes of psychological mindededness involved in and required of self-aware consciousness didn’t commonly and substantially lend to limiting troubles of potential oversociability, across the species, of modern humans
You seem to be basing your thoughts on typical human behaviour on people who are in prison, which is a strange sort of thing to do.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I suppose that’s a reality of sorts.
I prefer to see the reality that most people are interacting with other people most of the time though.
I guess that’s the obvious dimension of sociable tendencies, jails are probably not underpopulated with people of which that is mostly all they feel, and outside jails they often are medicated, ritalin and whatever for example
but somewhere back even before your ancestors went bipedal on the african savanna there emerged the tendency to not just mind your own business, but a sense of the further benefit from that of appearing as if you (whatever example, not you) really do mind your business
anyway, even if you pointed to hypersociability, there would be limiting mechanisms, necessarily, needed more so it can be argued
i’d be very surprised if some attributes of psychological mindededness involved in and required of self-aware consciousness didn’t commonly and substantially lend to limiting troubles of potential oversociability, across the species, of modern humans
You seem to be basing your thoughts on typical human behaviour on people who are in prison, which is a strange sort of thing to do.
convenient misread on your part, not an entirely unusual for you lightning-fast genius of comprehension
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:I guess that’s the obvious dimension of sociable tendencies, jails are probably not underpopulated with people of which that is mostly all they feel, and outside jails they often are medicated, ritalin and whatever for example
but somewhere back even before your ancestors went bipedal on the african savanna there emerged the tendency to not just mind your own business, but a sense of the further benefit from that of appearing as if you (whatever example, not you) really do mind your business
anyway, even if you pointed to hypersociability, there would be limiting mechanisms, necessarily, needed more so it can be argued
i’d be very surprised if some attributes of psychological mindededness involved in and required of self-aware consciousness didn’t commonly and substantially lend to limiting troubles of potential oversociability, across the species, of modern humans
You seem to be basing your thoughts on typical human behaviour on people who are in prison, which is a strange sort of thing to do.
convenient misread on your part, not an entirely unusual for you lightning-fast genius of comprehension
“lightning-fast genius of comprehension”?
On the contrary, most of the time I give it slow and careful consideration, and still don’t have the faintest idea what you are on about.
Nonetheless, you did mention the population of jails in this discussion of general social interactions, which seems a bit strange.
“New Zealand reports four new COVID cases, one works at Auckland City Hospital”
Ardern had only two jobs to do……….
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/texas-governor-greg-abbott-tests-positive-for-covid-19/100386156
Peak Warming Man said:
“New Zealand reports four new COVID cases, one works at Auckland City Hospital”Ardern had only two jobs to do……….
And what were they?
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“New Zealand reports four new COVID cases, one works at Auckland City Hospital”Ardern had only two jobs to do……….
And what were they?
Fix hotel quarantine and roll out the vaccine.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“New Zealand reports four new COVID cases, one works at Auckland City Hospital”Ardern had only two jobs to do……….
And what were they?
Fix hotel quarantine and roll out the vaccine.
IC
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/nsw-records-633-new-covid-19-cases/100385884
Trying hard to reach our Victorian record of 700 and something.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/nsw-records-633-new-covid-19-cases/100385884Trying hard to reach our Victorian record of 700 and something.
Sure looks like it.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/nsw-records-633-new-covid-19-cases/100385884Trying hard to reach our Victorian record of 700 and something.
Sure looks like it.
indeed.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/nsw-records-633-new-covid-19-cases/100385884Trying hard to reach our Victorian record of 700 and something.
It’s a race.
Woodie said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/nsw-records-633-new-covid-19-cases/100385884Trying hard to reach our Victorian record of 700 and something.
It’s a race.
And Gladys has spread it New Zealand, too.
I’m just tired of hearing the same old thing everyday and nothing they do looks to me to be working.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
I’m just tired of hearing the same old thing everyday and nothing they do looks to me to be working.
You’ve got to admit the rate of dying is less than it was last year when things took off.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
I’m just tired of hearing the same old thing everyday and the basically nothing they do looks to me to be working.
^
fixed
buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
I’m just tired of hearing the same old thing everyday and nothing they do looks to me to be working.
You’ve got to admit the rate of dying is less than it was last year when things took off.
Michael V said:
Gladys has spread it New Zealand, too.
we suspect it but
¿ref
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Gladys has spread it New Zealand, too.we suspect it but
¿ref
“New Zealand has detected an additional two COVID cases
This brings the total in the current outbreak to seven.
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said the outbreak came from NSW.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-lockdown-cases-press-conference/100385366
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Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:Michael V said:
Gladys has spread it New Zealand, too.we suspect it but
¿ref
“New Zealand has detected an additional two COVID cases
This brings the total in the current outbreak to seven.Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said the outbreak came from NSW.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/covid-live-blog-nsw-coronavirus-lockdown-cases-press-conference/100385366
hopefully the NSW premier and quite a few others are learning to do subtraction, it’s a little more difficult than addition sure, that way the numbers have some chance of bouncing around and trending down
quite a few don’t want subtraction much, to shrink a contagion, I mean at some point it would stop being a contagion
didn’t pass me by that news is a contagion
635 new cases?
How? How is it happening?
dv said:
635 new cases?How? How is it happening?
infection. You should know that.
dv said:
635 new cases?How? How is it happening?
places a kindly hand on dv’s shoulder
“You’d better sit down, son, you’re not going to believe this”.
sibeen said:
dv said:
635 new cases?How? How is it happening?
places a kindly hand on dv’s shoulder
“You’d better sit down, son, you’re not going to believe this”.
You shouldn’t kiss girls because you will give them your pox.
sibeen said:
dv said:
635 new cases?How? How is it happening?
places a kindly hand on dv’s shoulder
“You’d better sit down, son, you’re not going to believe this”.
I’ll believe anything you say
dv said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
635 new cases?How? How is it happening?
places a kindly hand on dv’s shoulder
“You’d better sit down, son, you’re not going to believe this”.
I’ll believe anything you say
if there’s a kindly hand on one shoulder, does that means there’s a deadly hand on the other?
dv said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
635 new cases?How? How is it happening?
places a kindly hand on dv’s shoulder
“You’d better sit down, son, you’re not going to believe this”.
I’ll believe anything you say
Well, we believe that people are moving around before they realise they are infected.
What were you thinking?
How is this happening?
today my boss tells me she was at the phlebotomist… a lady came and sat down next to her who was clearly sick (sniffle, wheezing etc). some moments pass… the lady makes her way tot he counter.. the lady returns to seat… the receptionist makes phone call… my boss tells me that she hears person on the other end of the phone saying “She fucking what!??”
turns out wheezing lady has just gone for covid test before this appointment… she wanted to get both done while she was out..
that’s one scenario.
Arts said:
How is this happening?today my boss tells me she was at the phlebotomist… a lady came and sat down next to her who was clearly sick (sniffle, wheezing etc). some moments pass… the lady makes her way tot he counter.. the lady returns to seat… the receptionist makes phone call… my boss tells me that she hears person on the other end of the phone saying “She fucking what!??”
turns out wheezing lady has just gone for covid test before this appointment… she wanted to get both done while she was out..that’s one scenario.
Bruddy ‘eck!
dv said:
Red States.
sibeen said:
dv said:
Red States.
Heh
dv said:
635 new cases?How? How is it happening?
It’s hard to fathom but this may be a clue..
Ian said:
dv said:
635 new cases?How? How is it happening?
It’s hard to fathom but this may be a clue..
Is compliance with the lockdown basically nonexistent?
dv said:
Ian said:
dv said:
635 new cases?How? How is it happening?
It’s hard to fathom but this may be a clue..
Is compliance with the lockdown basically nonexistent?
Problem was that the initial rules were wishy-washy and unfathomable Even with lockdown, they were unfathomable. And lockdown only came when they realised they’d lost control of the epidemic.
dv said:
Ian said:
dv said:
635 new cases?How? How is it happening?
It’s hard to fathom but this may be a clue..
Is compliance with the lockdown basically nonexistent?
No. The main issue is with the restrictions, not with compliance. Most people are getting infected despite following all the guidelines. We are getting all the facts and figures from all the non-compliance cases but nothing from the rest. Although this is the information that is more important, it is not only being withheld (as it’s bad for the economy), the scant information that was available to us only last week about specific case locations, is now also being withheld.
dv said:
Ian said:
dv said:
635 new cases?How? How is it happening?
It’s hard to fathom but this may be a clue..
Is compliance with the lockdown basically nonexistent?
just spoke to someone from the area and yes, there are a significant proportion of locals who don’t know wtf they’re meant to be doing
Michael V said:
dv said:
Ian said:It’s hard to fathom but this may be a clue..
Is compliance with the lockdown basically nonexistent?
Problem was that the initial rules were wishy-washy and unfathomable Even with lockdown, they were unfathomable. And lockdown only came when they realised they’d lost control of the epidemic.
Look ye don’t leave your home unless it is essential.
Well, many drive to the shops for a packet of ciggies.
Many see that if they don’t go to work they can’t even keep their job let alone pay their rent.
Is this essential
or are rose glasses better?
Gladys keeps saying that we shouldn’t do this, and we shouldn’t do that, but when we actually look at the rules closely, almost everything can still be done outside of those 12 LGAs. If she doesn’t sort out her rules, including making them more streamlined, nothing is going to improve.
Speedy said:
Gladys keeps saying that we shouldn’t do this, and we shouldn’t do that, but when we actually look at the rules closely, almost everything can still be done outside of those 12 LGAs. If she doesn’t sort out her rules, including making them more streamlined, nothing is going to improve.
But they’re strict rules. Probably the strictest in Australia.
sibeen said:
Speedy said:
Gladys keeps saying that we shouldn’t do this, and we shouldn’t do that, but when we actually look at the rules closely, almost everything can still be done outside of those 12 LGAs. If she doesn’t sort out her rules, including making them more streamlined, nothing is going to improve.
But they’re strict rules. Probably the strictest in Australia.
Roorooshito.
Speaking to reporters a short time ago, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Arden said genome sequencing has confirmed the man who triggered the lockdown has the highly contagious Delta variant currently circulating in NSW.
“Our case has originated in Australia,” Ms Ardern said.
However, the case has left authorities baffled, with mystery surrounding how the virus managed to get from NSW into Auckland.
“Now the job we have is to work through is how and when it got here,” Ms Ardern said.
“The natural place to start is to look at our managed isolation facilities.
“But our ability to narrow down that this is a case that is linked to the New South Wales outbreak, gives us a lot of leads to chase down as quickly as we can”.
https://www.mygc.com.au/confirmed-new-zealand-outbreak-traced-back-to-nsw/
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Speedy said:
Gladys keeps saying that we shouldn’t do this, and we shouldn’t do that, but when we actually look at the rules closely, almost everything can still be done outside of those 12 LGAs. If she doesn’t sort out her rules, including making them more streamlined, nothing is going to improve.
But they’re strict rules. Probably the strictest in Australia.
Roorooshito.
in a barbed wire canoe
I believe there is also a lack of oarsmanship invloved.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Ian said:It’s hard to fathom but this may be a clue..
Is compliance with the lockdown basically nonexistent?
Problem was that the initial rules were wishy-washy and unfathomable Even with lockdown, they were unfathomable. And lockdown only came when they realised they’d lost control of the epidemic.
And they are still unfathomable. For every rule there are eleventy seven pages of “exemptions”. You can’t go get a mammogram, yet you can go rent a DVD. As for a gay birthday cake, I’m not sure.
Speedy said:
Gladys keeps saying that we shouldn’t do this, and we shouldn’t do that, but when we actually look at the rules closely, almost everything can still be done outside of those 12 LGAs. If she doesn’t sort out her rules, including making them more streamlined, nothing is going to improve.
Dr Chant said today that parents working from home shouldn’t be sending their kids to school\daycare.
Yet off to work I go twice each day to pick up 1 student who has both of their parents at home working and still send him because it’s difficult.
So that’s me, my person who sits in the back with the child, the school cleaner ( who I must say is so undr the pump right now with what she has to do.) And the three teaching staff who are being rotated from the pool of staff that live within the in LGA area to actually be there with the child…. Because it’s difficult.
The education department says no child turned away. Dr Chant said well they shouldn’t be going if the parents are at home.
Fuck their conflicting rules that change depending on what department of government you work under.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Ian said:It’s hard to fathom but this may be a clue..
Is compliance with the lockdown basically nonexistent?
Problem was that the initial rules were wishy-washy and unfathomable Even with lockdown, they were unfathomable. And lockdown only came when they realised they’d lost control of the epidemic.
“Don’t leave home unless it is essential”.
Unfortunately, there was no definition of “essential”.
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:
dv said:Is compliance with the lockdown basically nonexistent?
Problem was that the initial rules were wishy-washy and unfathomable Even with lockdown, they were unfathomable. And lockdown only came when they realised they’d lost control of the epidemic.
“Don’t leave home unless it is essential”.
Unfortunately, there was no definition of “essential”.
Tried to point out that a few posts earlier.
sarahs mum said:
Speaking to reporters a short time ago, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Arden said genome sequencing has confirmed the man who triggered the lockdown has the highly contagious Delta variant currently circulating in NSW.“Our case has originated in Australia,” Ms Ardern said.
However, the case has left authorities baffled, with mystery surrounding how the virus managed to get from NSW into Auckland.
“Now the job we have is to work through is how and when it got here,” Ms Ardern said.
“The natural place to start is to look at our managed isolation facilities.
“But our ability to narrow down that this is a case that is linked to the New South Wales outbreak, gives us a lot of leads to chase down as quickly as we can”.
https://www.mygc.com.au/confirmed-new-zealand-outbreak-traced-back-to-nsw/
Seems a strange to jump to.
The Delta variant is active around the World, in many places much more actively than NSW.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Speaking to reporters a short time ago, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Arden said genome sequencing has confirmed the man who triggered the lockdown has the highly contagious Delta variant currently circulating in NSW.“Our case has originated in Australia,” Ms Ardern said.
However, the case has left authorities baffled, with mystery surrounding how the virus managed to get from NSW into Auckland.
“Now the job we have is to work through is how and when it got here,” Ms Ardern said.
“The natural place to start is to look at our managed isolation facilities.
“But our ability to narrow down that this is a case that is linked to the New South Wales outbreak, gives us a lot of leads to chase down as quickly as we can”.
https://www.mygc.com.au/confirmed-new-zealand-outbreak-traced-back-to-nsw/
Seems a strange to jump to.
The Delta variant is active around the World, in many places much more actively than NSW.
It is simply a link. We still have no results yet on whether it has evolved here.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
Speaking to reporters a short time ago, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Arden said genome sequencing has confirmed the man who triggered the lockdown has the highly contagious Delta variant currently circulating in NSW.“Our case has originated in Australia,” Ms Ardern said.
However, the case has left authorities baffled, with mystery surrounding how the virus managed to get from NSW into Auckland.
“Now the job we have is to work through is how and when it got here,” Ms Ardern said.
“The natural place to start is to look at our managed isolation facilities.
“But our ability to narrow down that this is a case that is linked to the New South Wales outbreak, gives us a lot of leads to chase down as quickly as we can”.
https://www.mygc.com.au/confirmed-new-zealand-outbreak-traced-back-to-nsw/
Seems a strange to jump to.
The Delta variant is active around the World, in many places much more actively than NSW.
The genome of the NSW Delta-strain is distinctive, apparently.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
dv said:Is compliance with the lockdown basically nonexistent?
Problem was that the initial rules were wishy-washy and unfathomable Even with lockdown, they were unfathomable. And lockdown only came when they realised they’d lost control of the epidemic.
And they are still unfathomable. For every rule there are eleventy seven pages of “exemptions”. You can’t go get a mammogram, yet you can go rent a DVD. As for a gay birthday cake, I’m not sure.
If a woman has symptoms she is concerned about, she should visit her local GP who will send her for further diagnostic testing. This testing, I am assuming would be done outside the BreastScreen network. As BreastScreen accepts patients who are not necessarily presenting with symptoms, it made sense to shut it down for now. FWIW, my GP tells me never to go to BreastScreen, ever, as they are notorious for misdiagnoses.
“If you have employed a sex worker in the St Kilda area you need to come forward and get tested,” Mr Foley said.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/08/18/vic-sex-worker-covid/amp/
I wonder if it is linked to the engagement party…
Dark Orange said:
“If you have employed a sex worker in the St Kilda area you need to come forward and get tested,” Mr Foley said.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/08/18/vic-sex-worker-covid/amp/
I wonder if it is linked to the engagement party…
Ha. There have been 6 cases out of that party, so far.
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:“If you have employed a sex worker in the St Kilda area you need to come forward and get tested,” Mr Foley said.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/08/18/vic-sex-worker-covid/amp/
I wonder if it is linked to the engagement party…
Ha. There have been 6 cases out of that party, so far.
and numbers are expected to rise …
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:“If you have employed a sex worker in the St Kilda area you need to come forward and get tested,” Mr Foley said.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/08/18/vic-sex-worker-covid/amp/
I wonder if it is linked to the engagement party…
Ha. There have been 6 cases out of that party, so far.
“Your test results are back. I have good news, and I have bad news…”
Dark Orange said:
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:“If you have employed a sex worker in the St Kilda area you need to come forward and get tested,” Mr Foley said.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/08/18/vic-sex-worker-covid/amp/
I wonder if it is linked to the engagement party…
Ha. There have been 6 cases out of that party, so far.
“Your test results are back. I have good news, and I have bad news…”
The good news, we have a change of underwear.
The bad news
Block A changes with block B
8455 active cases in Australia, higher than it’s ever been previously
WA Gummint not notified by Immigration department…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/detainees-from-sydney-covid-19-hotspot-fly-to-western-australia/100387032
Wife just informed me that 10.45am is now to be called a quarter to Gladys.
Ha!
Michael V said:
WA Gummint not notified by Immigration department…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/detainees-from-sydney-covid-19-hotspot-fly-to-western-australia/100387032
spreading the luuuuurve.
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:“If you have employed a sex worker in the St Kilda area you need to come forward and get tested,” Mr Foley said.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/08/18/vic-sex-worker-covid/amp/
I wonder if it is linked to the engagement party…
Ha. There have been 6 cases out of that party, so far.
Fuck them guys.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
WA Gummint not notified by Immigration department…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/detainees-from-sydney-covid-19-hotspot-fly-to-western-australia/100387032
spreading the luuuuurve.
A bad look, with potential to bite them in the arse.
Dark Orange said:
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:“If you have employed a sex worker in the St Kilda area you need to come forward and get tested,” Mr Foley said.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/08/18/vic-sex-worker-covid/amp/
I wonder if it is linked to the engagement party…
Ha. There have been 6 cases out of that party, so far.
“Your test results are back. I have good news, and I have bad news…”
Wouldn’t the clients of sex-workers be at greater risk than their employers?
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
WA Gummint not notified by Immigration department…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/detainees-from-sydney-covid-19-hotspot-fly-to-western-australia/100387032
spreading the luuuuurve.
A bad look, with potential to bite them in the arse.
so
nz were wondering how nsw covid got in
right
ABC News:
‘Security guards called for reinforcement at Byron Bay post office
ABC North Coast
/ By Bronwyn Herbert and Bruce MacKenzie
A third of customers were refusing to wear masks, use hand sanitiser or check-in.’
“I don’t need that stuff, i’ve got my protective amulet i got from a Cherokee medicine man.”
roughbarked said:
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:“If you have employed a sex worker in the St Kilda area you need to come forward and get tested,” Mr Foley said.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/08/18/vic-sex-worker-covid/amp/
I wonder if it is linked to the engagement party…
Ha. There have been 6 cases out of that party, so far.
and numbers are expected to rise …
well they do seem to come in waves
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Security guards called for reinforcement at Byron Bay post office
ABC North Coast
/ By Bronwyn Herbert and Bruce MacKenzie
A third of customers were refusing to wear masks, use hand sanitiser or check-in.’“I don’t need that stuff, i’ve got my protective amulet i got from a Cherokee medicine man.”
got link handy?
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Security guards called for reinforcement at Byron Bay post office
ABC North Coast
/ By Bronwyn Herbert and Bruce MacKenzie
A third of customers were refusing to wear masks, use hand sanitiser or check-in.’“I don’t need that stuff, i’ve got my protective amulet i got from a Cherokee medicine man.”
got link handy?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/security-guards-byron-post-office-covid-check-ins/100386262
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Security guards called for reinforcement at Byron Bay post office
ABC North Coast
/ By Bronwyn Herbert and Bruce MacKenzie
A third of customers were refusing to wear masks, use hand sanitiser or check-in.’“I don’t need that stuff, i’ve got my protective amulet i got from a Cherokee medicine man.”
got link handy?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/security-guards-byron-post-office-covid-check-ins/100386262
ta good sir.
Ian said:
dv said:
635 new cases?How? How is it happening?
It’s hard to fathom but this may be a clue..
Apparently a majority were household contacts, although, the NSW press release doesn’t state that.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
dv said:Is compliance with the lockdown basically nonexistent?
Problem was that the initial rules were wishy-washy and unfathomable Even with lockdown, they were unfathomable. And lockdown only came when they realised they’d lost control of the epidemic.
And they are still unfathomable. For every rule there are eleventy seven pages of “exemptions”. You can’t go get a mammogram, yet you can go rent a DVD. As for a gay birthday cake, I’m not sure.
Where the fk do you find a dvd to rent these days?
poikilotherm said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Problem was that the initial rules were wishy-washy and unfathomable Even with lockdown, they were unfathomable. And lockdown only came when they realised they’d lost control of the epidemic.
And they are still unfathomable. For every rule there are eleventy seven pages of “exemptions”. You can’t go get a mammogram, yet you can go rent a DVD. As for a gay birthday cake, I’m not sure.
Where the fk do you find a dvd to rent these days?
video eze.
JudgeMental said:
poikilotherm said:
Woodie said:And they are still unfathomable. For every rule there are eleventy seven pages of “exemptions”. You can’t go get a mammogram, yet you can go rent a DVD. As for a gay birthday cake, I’m not sure.
Where the fk do you find a dvd to rent these days?
video eze.
Caravan park front desk…
poikilotherm said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Problem was that the initial rules were wishy-washy and unfathomable Even with lockdown, they were unfathomable. And lockdown only came when they realised they’d lost control of the epidemic.
And they are still unfathomable. For every rule there are eleventy seven pages of “exemptions”. You can’t go get a mammogram, yet you can go rent a DVD. As for a gay birthday cake, I’m not sure.
Where the fk do you find a dvd to rent these days?
There’s one in Casino. It’s open. You can rent a DVD, or buy a new lawn mower, but can’t get a haircut, or a new pair of shoes.
ten now fuck new south wuhan
Having previously reported seven people with COVID-19, the nation’s health authorities announced a further three infections late on Wednesday to take the case count into double figures. Nine of these cases have been linked to other community cases and the remaining case has been linked to the border, the Ministry of Health said in a statement.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/new-zealand-reports-new-covid-cases/100385936
Grand Unification
SCIENCE said:
Grand Unification
The odd thing is that the Quran doesn’t require women to dress like that.
It says that they should cover their chests (ok, fair enough, i suppose) and to lengthen their garments (well…). It doesn’t prescribe head coverings at all.
It encourages modest dress for both men and women, but women covered from head to foot is not a Quranic requirement. That’s arisen from extreme ‘interpretations’, probably out of that urge to show that i’m-holier-than-you, and impose ever more absurd rules.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Grand Unification
The odd thing is that the Quran doesn’t require women to dress like that.
It says that they should cover their chests (ok, fair enough, i suppose) and to lengthen their garments (well…). It doesn’t prescribe head coverings at all.
It encourages modest dress for both men and women, but women covered from head to foot is not a Quranic requirement. That’s arisen from extreme ‘interpretations’, probably out of that urge to show that i’m-holier-than-you, and impose ever more absurd rules.
There are a number of things the Quran does not say.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Grand Unification
The odd thing is that the Quran doesn’t require women to dress like that.
It says that they should cover their chests (ok, fair enough, i suppose) and to lengthen their garments (well…). It doesn’t prescribe head coverings at all.
It encourages modest dress for both men and women, but women covered from head to foot is not a Quranic requirement. That’s arisen from extreme ‘interpretations’, probably out of that urge to show that i’m-holier-than-you, and impose ever more absurd rules.
There are a number of things the Quran does not say.
So, much like the bible.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Grand Unification
The odd thing is that the Quran doesn’t require women to dress like that.
It says that they should cover their chests (ok, fair enough, i suppose) and to lengthen their garments (well…). It doesn’t prescribe head coverings at all.
It encourages modest dress for both men and women, but women covered from head to foot is not a Quranic requirement. That’s arisen from extreme ‘interpretations’, probably out of that urge to show that i’m-holier-than-you, and impose ever more absurd rules.
I imagine some sort of head-covering predates Islam in many places.
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Grand Unification
The odd thing is that the Quran doesn’t require women to dress like that.
It says that they should cover their chests (ok, fair enough, i suppose) and to lengthen their garments (well…). It doesn’t prescribe head coverings at all.
It encourages modest dress for both men and women, but women covered from head to foot is not a Quranic requirement. That’s arisen from extreme ‘interpretations’, probably out of that urge to show that i’m-holier-than-you, and impose ever more absurd rules.
I imagine some sort of head-covering predates Islam in many places.
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Grand Unification
The odd thing is that the Quran doesn’t require women to dress like that.
It says that they should cover their chests (ok, fair enough, i suppose) and to lengthen their garments (well…). It doesn’t prescribe head coverings at all.
It encourages modest dress for both men and women, but women covered from head to foot is not a Quranic requirement. That’s arisen from extreme ‘interpretations’, probably out of that urge to show that i’m-holier-than-you, and impose ever more absurd rules.
I imagine some sort of head-covering predates Islam in many places.
My Mum wore a headscarf, though she didn’t predate islam.
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Grand Unification
The odd thing is that the Quran doesn’t require women to dress like that.
It says that they should cover their chests (ok, fair enough, i suppose) and to lengthen their garments (well…). It doesn’t prescribe head coverings at all.
It encourages modest dress for both men and women, but women covered from head to foot is not a Quranic requirement. That’s arisen from extreme ‘interpretations’, probably out of that urge to show that i’m-holier-than-you, and impose ever more absurd rules.
I imagine some sort of head-covering predates Islam in many places.
Yeah, t headscarves like the shayla and the hijab are traditional dress for women, not mandated on religious grounds.
Tamb said:
Women were supposed to wear hats in Catholic churches.
Another absurd rule, which the Catholic church abandoned as being ridiculous and discriminatory quite a while back.
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:The odd thing is that the Quran doesn’t require women to dress like that.
It says that they should cover their chests (ok, fair enough, i suppose) and to lengthen their garments (well…). It doesn’t prescribe head coverings at all.
It encourages modest dress for both men and women, but women covered from head to foot is not a Quranic requirement. That’s arisen from extreme ‘interpretations’, probably out of that urge to show that i’m-holier-than-you, and impose ever more absurd rules.
I imagine some sort of head-covering predates Islam in many places.
Yeah, t headscarves like the shayla and the hijab are traditional dress for women, not mandated on religious grounds.
so basically what them taliban have been saying about doing sharia law or whatever, means we really should trust them when they claim they won’t oppress the women, because that isn’t a quranic requirement
NZ’s lockdown effectively places the entire country in quarantine. No takeaway coffee, no Uber Eats
roughbarked said:
NZ’s lockdown effectively places the entire country in quarantine. No takeaway coffee, no Uber Eats
That’s how you interrupt transmission…
SCIENCE said:
so basically what them taliban have been saying about doing sharia law or whatever, means we really should trust them when they claim they won’t oppress the women, because that isn’t a quranic requirement
Well, if the go ‘by the book’, then o, it isn’t, and no, they probably wouldn’t.
But, then, the religious professionals get involved, and they have to look like they’re doing something or else they might have to go and get jobs.
So, they ‘interpret’ the verses.
Part of one verse says ‘tell the believing men that they shall subdue their eyes (and not stare at the women), and to maintain their chastity’. Someone gets the bright idea that the best way to stop men staring at women is to make the women ‘invisible’ by covering them head-to-foot. Problem solved, everyone’s chastity intact.
Part of the same verse says ‘tell the believing women to subdue their eyes, and maintain their chastity. They shall not reveal any parts of their bodies, except that which is necessary. ‘. Well, there’s a gold mine for interpretation (by a bunch of men). They decide that women need not reveal any part of their bodies, and the best way for them to ‘subdue their eyes’ is to cover them, and it’s full burka time.
roughbarked said:
NZ’s lockdown effectively places the entire country in quarantine. No takeaway coffee, no Uber Eats
Wouldn’t work in Melbourne.
People have to be seen to ‘get coffee’ or lose their urban cred.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
NZ’s lockdown effectively places the entire country in quarantine. No takeaway coffee, no Uber EatsWouldn’t work in Melbourne.
People have to be seen to ‘get coffee’ or lose their urban cred.
I thought lockdowns had been accepted by the populace in melb? never heard the same ruckus as we are from the sydney crowd.
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
NZ’s lockdown effectively places the entire country in quarantine. No takeaway coffee, no Uber EatsWouldn’t work in Melbourne.
People have to be seen to ‘get coffee’ or lose their urban cred.
I thought lockdowns had been accepted by the populace in melb? never heard the same ruckus as we are from the sydney crowd.
of course there will be a few exceptions but on the whole I think nsw has had far more problems and nonacceptance.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:Wouldn’t work in Melbourne.
People have to be seen to ‘get coffee’ or lose their urban cred.
I thought lockdowns had been accepted by the populace in melb? never heard the same ruckus as we are from the sydney crowd.
of course there will be a few exceptions but on the whole I think nsw has had far more problems and nonacceptance.
aaaaand just got this in an email
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/19/fatigued-not-complacent-as-lockdowns-drag-on-australians-find-it-harder-to-comply-with-covid-restrictions
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
NZ’s lockdown effectively places the entire country in quarantine. No takeaway coffee, no Uber EatsWouldn’t work in Melbourne.
People have to be seen to ‘get coffee’ or lose their urban cred.
I thought lockdowns had been accepted by the populace in melb? never heard the same ruckus as we are from the sydney crowd.
Agreed. I was being unnecessarily disparaging of Melbourne. They’ve learnt about lockdowns. Gosh knows, they’ve had plenty of opportunities.
Sydney people do seem to be the more obtuse. Perhaps that’s why Gladys didn’t ‘go hard, go early’: she knew the dumb bastards wouldn’t obey, anyway.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/19/calls-grow-for-united-effort-to-get-homeless-australians-vaccinated
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:Wouldn’t work in Melbourne.
People have to be seen to ‘get coffee’ or lose their urban cred.
I thought lockdowns had been accepted by the populace in melb? never heard the same ruckus as we are from the sydney crowd.
Agreed. I was being unnecessarily disparaging of Melbourne. They’ve learnt about lockdowns. Gosh knows, they’ve had plenty of opportunities.
Sydney people do seem to be the more obtuse. Perhaps that’s why Gladys didn’t ‘go hard, go early’: she knew the dumb bastards wouldn’t obey, anyway.
I still don’t know if I’m allowed to go get a haircut or not. Suppose I’d better go out and see if the shops are open. You wanna come with me?
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:I thought lockdowns had been accepted by the populace in melb? never heard the same ruckus as we are from the sydney crowd.
of course there will be a few exceptions but on the whole I think nsw has had far more problems and nonacceptance.
aaaaand just got this in an email
so what they’re saying is that intelligent leaders go hard and go early because they know that the longer things go on for the harder it gets
Woodie said:
I still don’t know if I’m allowed to go get a haircut or not. Suppose I’d better go out and see if the shops are open. You wanna come with me?
Yeah, but i better take some tissues. I’ve got this runny nose, and a persistent cough.
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:I thought lockdowns had been accepted by the populace in melb? never heard the same ruckus as we are from the sydney crowd.
Agreed. I was being unnecessarily disparaging of Melbourne. They’ve learnt about lockdowns. Gosh knows, they’ve had plenty of opportunities.
Sydney people do seem to be the more obtuse. Perhaps that’s why Gladys didn’t ‘go hard, go early’: she knew the dumb bastards wouldn’t obey, anyway.
I still don’t know if I’m allowed to go get a haircut or not. Suppose I’d better go out and see if the shops are open. You wanna come with me?
word on the street is, most stuff is open, people are driving around like there’s no cases tomorrow
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:I thought lockdowns had been accepted by the populace in melb? never heard the same ruckus as we are from the sydney crowd.
Agreed. I was being unnecessarily disparaging of Melbourne. They’ve learnt about lockdowns. Gosh knows, they’ve had plenty of opportunities.
Sydney people do seem to be the more obtuse. Perhaps that’s why Gladys didn’t ‘go hard, go early’: she knew the dumb bastards wouldn’t obey, anyway.
I still don’t know if I’m allowed to go get a haircut or not. Suppose I’d better go out and see if the shops are open. You wanna come with me?
Have you heard of the Internet Woodie?
It’s amazing what you can find on there:
“Personal-care services
Hairdressers, spas, nail salons, beauty salons, waxing salons, tanning salons, tattoo parlours and massage parlours across NSW must close.”
https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/covid19-restriction-checker/hair-and-beauty-services/nsw
SCIENCE said:
And now Gladys has provided evidence of what happens when you listen to the advice of health experts, but act on the advice of lobbyists and political spin-doctors.so what they’re saying is that intelligent leaders go hard and go early because they know that the longer things go on for the harder it gets
The Rev Dodgson said:
Have you heard of the Internet Woodie?
It’s amazing what you can find on there:
“Personal-care services
Hairdressers, spas, nail salons, beauty salons, waxing salons, tanning salons, tattoo parlours and massage parlours across NSW must close.”https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/covid19-restriction-checker/hair-and-beauty-services/nsw
Not the massage parlours! Anything but that!
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:I thought lockdowns had been accepted by the populace in melb? never heard the same ruckus as we are from the sydney crowd.
Agreed. I was being unnecessarily disparaging of Melbourne. They’ve learnt about lockdowns. Gosh knows, they’ve had plenty of opportunities.
Sydney people do seem to be the more obtuse. Perhaps that’s why Gladys didn’t ‘go hard, go early’: she knew the dumb bastards wouldn’t obey, anyway.
I still don’t know if I’m allowed to go get a haircut or not. Suppose I’d better go out and see if the shops are open. You wanna come with me?
Pretty sure you’re joking, but cutting your own hair isn’t too difficult if you have a set of clippers. I cut Mr Speedy’s hair earlier this week and he was happy enough with it, but I had to tidy it last night as I got fed up with looking at his funny Hitler hairdo. It’s now all properly blended.
We’ve had people asking on our community page whether they know of hairdressers that will come to their home. There are so many clueless people here who don’t understand that this pandemic might affect their way of life, just for a little while. I used to go to a local hairdresser that was filled with regulars who go there every few days, not for a haircut, but to have their hair washed and styled. They do not wash their own hair at home! That sort of entitlement is difficult to shake.
Speedy said:
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:Agreed. I was being unnecessarily disparaging of Melbourne. They’ve learnt about lockdowns. Gosh knows, they’ve had plenty of opportunities.
Sydney people do seem to be the more obtuse. Perhaps that’s why Gladys didn’t ‘go hard, go early’: she knew the dumb bastards wouldn’t obey, anyway.
I still don’t know if I’m allowed to go get a haircut or not. Suppose I’d better go out and see if the shops are open. You wanna come with me?
Pretty sure you’re joking, but cutting your own hair isn’t too difficult if you have a set of clippers. I cut Mr Speedy’s hair earlier this week and he was happy enough with it, but I had to tidy it last night as I got fed up with looking at his funny Hitler hairdo. It’s now all properly blended.
We’ve had people asking on our community page whether they know of hairdressers that will come to their home. There are so many clueless people here who don’t understand that this pandemic might affect their way of life, just for a little while. I used to go to a local hairdresser that was filled with regulars who go there every few days, not for a haircut, but to have their hair washed and styled. They do not wash their own hair at home! That sort of entitlement is difficult to shake.
Yes, Woodie was being a smart-arse, but the point is that the rules have been explained in a wishy-washy way, and are somewhat opaque.
I cut Mrs V’s hair, and I cut my own hair too.
:)
My hairdresser visits me at home. And I’m nearly due for another visit.
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:
Wouldn’t work in Melbourne.
People have to be seen to ‘get coffee’ or lose their urban cred.
I thought lockdowns had been accepted by the populace in melb? never heard the same ruckus as we are from the sydney crowd.
Agreed. I was being unnecessarily disparaging of Melbourne. They’ve learnt about lockdowns. Gosh knows, they’ve had plenty of opportunities.
Sydney people do seem to be the more obtuse. Perhaps that’s why Gladys didn’t ‘go hard, go early’: she knew the dumb bastards wouldn’t obey, anyway.
tbh maybe, we heard stories of geniuses who took their child for a test, but did they have a runny nose themselves, oh wait yeah actually, so did they get tested and stay home, oh they had to have dinner with their relatives 3 suburbs away, and look after the other relatives’ children 2 suburbs in the other direction, luckily the test was negative allegedly but damn
we mean, fuck
I need to trim the mullet this weekend.
which kinda sounds TMI.
JudgeMental said:
I need to trim the mullet this weekend.
which kinda sounds TMI.
does it smell fishy
https://www.upworthy.com/texas-school-district-skirts-governors-anti-mask-mandate-by-adding-them-to-the-dress-code
The Board of Trustees at Paris Independent School District in northeast Texas has decided to add masks to the school district’s dress code, a move that circumvents the governor’s ban on school mask mandates. Now instead of policing spaghetti straps and skirt lengths, schools can send home kids who are maskless or wear their masks as chin diapers.
The Place To Be
Victoria records 57 new local COVID-19 cases, 44 quarantined while infectious
better than NSWuhan but 13 still a bit much
Nearly 40 healthcare workers have been sent into quarantine in Melbourne’s west, after a medical imaging technologist at Footscray Hospital tested positive on Tuesday.
luckily they use light or sound or something at a distance right
dv said:
https://www.upworthy.com/texas-school-district-skirts-governors-anti-mask-mandate-by-adding-them-to-the-dress-codeThe Board of Trustees at Paris Independent School District in northeast Texas has decided to add masks to the school district’s dress code, a move that circumvents the governor’s ban on school mask mandates. Now instead of policing spaghetti straps and skirt lengths, schools can send home kids who are maskless or wear their masks as chin diapers.
Nice Pun
Five students have been removed from Campus East while 11 infringement notices have been handed out by police.
The university says they are putting the community at risk.
“We take the breach of a public health order very, very seriously,” said UOW director of student and accommodation services Theresa Hoynes.
“There are consequences for the decisions that they take and they are adults, so these are their decisions that they are taking.
“They are making deliberate decisions to breach public health orders and we can’t tolerate that.”SCIENCE said:
dv said:
https://www.upworthy.com/texas-school-district-skirts-governors-anti-mask-mandate-by-adding-them-to-the-dress-codeThe Board of Trustees at Paris Independent School District in northeast Texas has decided to add masks to the school district’s dress code, a move that circumvents the governor’s ban on school mask mandates. Now instead of policing spaghetti straps and skirt lengths, schools can send home kids who are maskless or wear their masks as chin diapers.
Nice Pun
What pun?
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
https://www.upworthy.com/texas-school-district-skirts-governors-anti-mask-mandate-by-adding-them-to-the-dress-codeThe Board of Trustees at Paris Independent School District in northeast Texas has decided to add masks to the school district’s dress code, a move that circumvents the governor’s ban on school mask mandates. Now instead of policing spaghetti straps and skirt lengths, schools can send home kids who are maskless or wear their masks as chin diapers.
Nice Pun
What pun?
……..school-district-skirts-governors-anti-mask
……..instead of policing spaghetti straps and skirt lengths, schools can
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:Nice Pun
What pun?
……..school-district-skirts-governors-anti-mask
……..instead of policing spaghetti straps and skirt lengths, schools can
oh.. in the URL. oh.
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
https://www.upworthy.com/texas-school-district-skirts-governors-anti-mask-mandate-by-adding-them-to-the-dress-codeThe Board of Trustees at Paris Independent School District in northeast Texas has decided to add masks to the school district’s dress code, a move that circumvents the governor’s ban on school mask mandates. Now instead of policing spaghetti straps and skirt lengths, schools can send home kids who are maskless or wear their masks as chin diapers.
Nice Pun
Yeah
681 new cases in NSW. 59 infectious in the community.
roughbarked said:
681 new cases in NSW. 59 infectious in the community.
How many weren’t?
(A much, much more important number.)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/18/record-covid-cases-in-nsw-overshadowed-other-statistics-which-reveal-the-outbreak-will-inevitably-get-worse
Fox News mandates employees disclose vaccination status, contradicting rhetoric from top stars
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/18/media/fox-mandate-vaccine-status/index.html
Over on the gran:
Any ideas on what that means?
dv said:
Fox News mandates employees disclose vaccination status, contradicting rhetoric from top starshttps://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/18/media/fox-mandate-vaccine-status/index.html
The sheep-dogs give orders to the sheep, but take orders from the boss.
sibeen said:
Over on the gran:
Any ideas on what that means?
LOLOL
(You’re Victorian.)
sibeen said:
Over on the gran:
Any ideas on what that means?
At first i thought it was one of these:
sibeen said:
Over on the gran:
Any ideas on what that means?
Jeroen Weimar is Victoria’s Covid response commander..
dv said:
Fox News mandates employees disclose vaccination status, contradicting rhetoric from top starshttps://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/18/media/fox-mandate-vaccine-status/index.html
read that, site’s quite busy with contagionistics, trackeristics
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Over on the gran:
Any ideas on what that means?
LOLOL
(You’re Victorian.)
OK, there’s a hint. Was it supposed to be “Garryowen” perchance?
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Over on the gran:
Any ideas on what that means?
Jeroen Weimar is Victoria’s Covid response commander..
Ahh, there ya go then.
“NT: Case that sparked the lockdown still a mystery
“It’s probably one of the most unusual cases in Australia,” Chief Minister Michael Gunner said.
Officials know it’s a Delta strain but haven’t been able to link it to any case answhere in Australia.”“
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I expect that they are using genomics, not just contact tracing to link cases.
I wonder whether it’s one of the rare SARS-CoV-2 infections that took more than 14 days to develop into COVID-19.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-press-conference/100388754
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Over on the gran:
Any ideas on what that means?
LOLOL
(You’re Victorian.)
OK, there’s a hint. Was it supposed to be “Garryowen” perchance?
Jeroen Weimar is Victoria’s COVID response commander.
Are you taking the piss?
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Over on the gran:
Any ideas on what that means?
Jeroen Weimar is Victoria’s Covid response commander..
Ahh, there ya go then.
Oh.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Over on the gran:
Any ideas on what that means?
Jeroen Weimar is Victoria’s Covid response commander..
They need a Weimar republic
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:LOLOL
(You’re Victorian.)
OK, there’s a hint. Was it supposed to be “Garryowen” perchance?
Jeroen Weimar is Victoria’s COVID response commander.
Are you taking the piss?
Nup,
Just a note on Victoria lockdown.
A fortnight ago
Today
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
681 new cases in NSW. 59 infectious in the community.
How many weren’t?
(A much, much more important number.)
One death.
135 cases in isolation throughout their infectious period.
So, potentially 546 out of 681 cases were infections in the community.
……………………………………………………………………………………………………….
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/nsw-records-681-covid-cases-another-death/100389146
Michael V said:
“NT: Case that sparked the lockdown still a mystery“It’s probably one of the most unusual cases in Australia,” Chief Minister Michael Gunner said.
Officials know it’s a Delta strain but haven’t been able to link it to any case answhere in Australia.”“
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I expect that they are using genomics, not just contact tracing to link cases.
I wonder whether it’s one of the rare SARS-CoV-2 infections that took more than 14 days to develop into COVID-19.
——————————————————————————————————————————————
maybe it’s a visiting US soldier, whenever someone discovers a new bump or discharge it’s always from some visiting soldier
“I appreciate what we are going through looks difficult but every state in Australia will need to come to terms with the fact that when you get to a certain level of vaccination and open up, Delta will creep in.
“We can’t pretend that we will have a zero cases around Australia with Delta.
“As the Doherty report says, once you get to 80 per cent double dose and you have to open up, everyone will have to learn to live with Delta.
“In New South Wales, we are learning that earlier than others.”
Very few cases reported from Afghanistan yesterday, goes to show just how effective a properly enforced lockdown can be, a lockdown where even testers are not allowed out.
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
“NT: Case that sparked the lockdown still a mystery“It’s probably one of the most unusual cases in Australia,” Chief Minister Michael Gunner said.
Officials know it’s a Delta strain but haven’t been able to link it to any case answhere in Australia.”“
——————————————————————————————————————————————
I expect that they are using genomics, not just contact tracing to link cases.
I wonder whether it’s one of the rare SARS-CoV-2 infections that took more than 14 days to develop into COVID-19.
——————————————————————————————————————————————
maybe it’s a visiting US soldier, whenever someone discovers a new bump or discharge it’s always from some visiting soldier
Up here it’s generally a seafarer of some kind.
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
“NT: Case that sparked the lockdown still a mystery“It’s probably one of the most unusual cases in Australia,” Chief Minister Michael Gunner said.
Officials know it’s a Delta strain but haven’t been able to link it to any case answhere in Australia.”“
——————————————————————————————————————————————
I expect that they are using genomics, not just contact tracing to link cases.
I wonder whether it’s one of the rare SARS-CoV-2 infections that took more than 14 days to develop into COVID-19.
——————————————————————————————————————————————
maybe it’s a visiting US soldier, whenever someone discovers a new bump or discharge it’s always from some visiting soldier
Up here it’s generally a seafarer of some kind.
a rash after encountering sea…farers yes could say that
Peak Warming Man said:
Very few cases reported from Afghanistan yesterday, goes to show just how effective a properly enforced lockdown can be, a lockdown where even testers are not allowed out.
Afghan Lives Matter
Last week priority vaccination appointments were made available for some authorised workers in LGAs of concern
People who weren’t eligible for these appointments booked them through an online link
Police say the private link was circulated on social media app WeChat
—
this looks like hesitancy, not a supply issue
damn then CHINA media
Might have something else to say if it happened 2 weeks down the track when nothing is available because all the resources are consumed by COVID-19.
nah
Let It Rip
New Zealand’s COVID-19 outbreak has grown to 21 cases, with 11 new cases being reported today.
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said genomic sequencing revealed the Auckland outbreak was linked to a traveller from Sydney who entered the country’s hotel quarantine system earlier this month.
remember this idiot
“I appreciate what we are going through looks difficult but every state in Australia will need to come to terms with the fact that when you get to a certain level of vaccination and open up, Delta will creep in.
… FROM NSW THE FUCKERS
Residents are restricted to their local areas, they cannot exercise with anyone outside their household and only essential businesses are allowed to open — no takeaway coffee, no Uber Eats.
All gatherings are cancelled, all public spaces are closed, the public libraries turn off their wi-fi networks.
When asked why such a strict lockdown was necessary for New Zealand, Ms Ardern simply replied by saying: “Australia.”
SCIENCE said:
Residents are restricted to their local areas, they cannot exercise with anyone outside their household and only essential businesses are allowed to open — no takeaway coffee, no Uber Eats.All gatherings are cancelled, all public spaces are closed, the public libraries turn off their wi-fi networks.
When asked why such a strict lockdown was necessary for New Zealand, Ms Ardern simply replied by saying: “Australia.”
Did she roll her eyes and sigh before she said it?
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Residents are restricted to their local areas, they cannot exercise with anyone outside their household and only essential businesses are allowed to open — no takeaway coffee, no Uber Eats.All gatherings are cancelled, all public spaces are closed, the public libraries turn off their wi-fi networks.
When asked why such a strict lockdown was necessary for New Zealand, Ms Ardern simply replied by saying: “Australia.”
Did she roll her eyes and sigh before she said it?
we would have
SCIENCE said:
“I appreciate what we are going through looks difficult but every state in Australia will need to come to terms with the fact that when you get to a certain level of vaccination and open up, Delta will creep in.“We can’t pretend that we will have a zero cases around Australia with Delta.
“As the Doherty report says, once you get to 80 per cent double dose and you have to open up, everyone will have to learn to live with Delta.
“In New South Wales, we are learning that earlier than others.”
fucken absurd really, fucken mad
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Residents are restricted to their local areas, they cannot exercise with anyone outside their household and only essential businesses are allowed to open — no takeaway coffee, no Uber Eats.All gatherings are cancelled, all public spaces are closed, the public libraries turn off their wi-fi networks.
When asked why such a strict lockdown was necessary for New Zealand, Ms Ardern simply replied by saying: “Australia.”
Did she roll her eyes and sigh before she said it?
we would have
She should have.
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Residents are restricted to their local areas, they cannot exercise with anyone outside their household and only essential businesses are allowed to open — no takeaway coffee, no Uber Eats.All gatherings are cancelled, all public spaces are closed, the public libraries turn off their wi-fi networks.
When asked why such a strict lockdown was necessary for New Zealand, Ms Ardern simply replied by saying: “Australia.”
Did she roll her eyes and sigh before she said it?
we would have
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
“I appreciate what we are going through looks difficult but every state in Australia will need to come to terms with the fact that when you get to a certain level of vaccination and open up, Delta will creep in.“We can’t pretend that we will have a zero cases around Australia with Delta.
“As the Doherty report says, once you get to 80 per cent double dose and you have to open up, everyone will have to learn to live with Delta.
“In New South Wales, we are learning that earlier than others.”
fucken absurd really, fucken mad
We are ahead of the game, as usual. Remember, we are “the first state”, formerly known as “the premier state”.
Speedy said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
“I appreciate what we are going through looks difficult but every state in Australia will need to come to terms with the fact that when you get to a certain level of vaccination and open up, Delta will creep in.“We can’t pretend that we will have a zero cases around Australia with Delta.
“As the Doherty report says, once you get to 80 per cent double dose and you have to open up, everyone will have to learn to live with Delta.
“In New South Wales, we are learning that earlier than others.”
fucken absurd really, fucken mad
We are ahead of the game, as usual. Remember, we are “the first state”, formerly known as “the premier state”.
Beat QLD in the State Of Origin, and Victoria in the Covids. :)
Speedy said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
“I appreciate what we are going through looks difficult but every state in Australia will need to come to terms with the fact that when you get to a certain level of vaccination and open up, Delta will creep in.“We can’t pretend that we will have a zero cases around Australia with Delta.
“As the Doherty report says, once you get to 80 per cent double dose and you have to open up, everyone will have to learn to live with Delta.
“In New South Wales, we are learning that earlier than others.”
fucken absurd really, fucken mad
We are ahead of the game, as usual. Remember, we are “the first state”, formerly known as “the premier state”.
In Nifty Nev’s day people called it The Premier’s State.
Speedy said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
“I appreciate what we are going through looks difficult but every state in Australia will need to come to terms with the fact that when you get to a certain level of vaccination and open up, Delta will creep in.
“We can’t pretend that we will have a zero cases around Australia with Delta.
“As the Doherty report says, once you get to 80 per cent double dose and you have to open up, everyone will have to learn to live with Delta.
“In New South Wales, we are learning that earlier than others.”
fucken absurd really, fucken mad
We are ahead of the game, as usual. Remember, we are “the first state”, formerly known as “the premier state”.
there’s a semimeme going around about how countries with female leaders have been doing much better this pandemic than the alternative but we guess someone has to buck the trend and besides NSW isn’t quite a country
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/unemployment-jobs-covid-lockdowns-abs-july-2021/100389960
https://www.afr.com/rear-window/millennium-services-group-uses-jobkeeper-to-repay-debt-20210818-p58jxq
SCIENCE said:
Speedy said:
transition said:
fucken absurd really, fucken mad
We are ahead of the game, as usual. Remember, we are “the first state”, formerly known as “the premier state”.
there’s a semimeme going around about how countries with female leaders have been doing much better this pandemic than the alternative but we guess someone has to buck the trend and besides NSW isn’t quite a country
I’m of the feeling the Gladys didn’t act because she was moving from the zero cases model to the hospitals aren’t in extreme stress model.
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:Speedy said:
We are ahead of the game, as usual. Remember, we are “the first state”, formerly known as “the premier state”.
there’s a semimeme going around about how countries with female leaders have been doing much better this pandemic than the alternative but we guess someone has to buck the trend and besides NSW isn’t quite a country
I’m of the feeling the Gladys didn’t act because she was moving from the zero cases model to the hospitals aren’t in extreme stress model.
well yeah if you cancel elective surgery and flush out private hospitals then we guess you destress hospitals temporarily
they’re saying there’s a B.1.617.2 subtype AY.3 from the USSA which is getting ready to fk up all you vaccinated trolls, got some good immune evasion going, WHO doesn’t know or doesn’t want to give it a silly name yet
https://www.cnet.com/features/how-the-delta-variant-breached-australias-covid-fortress/
JudgeMental said:
By June 26, just 10 days after the limousine driver’s positive test, there was only one option.
https://www.cnet.com/features/how-the-delta-variant-breached-australias-covid-fortress/
Sydney headed into lockdown.
—-
While on June 28 there was a bunch of people wondering why lockdown wasn’t happening.
SCIENCE said:
they’re saying there’s a B.1.617.2 subtype AY.3 from the USSA which is getting ready to fk up all you vaccinated trolls, got some good immune evasion going, WHO doesn’t know or doesn’t want to give it a silly name yet
just reading some about that, cryptic transmission across fully vaccinated people
now watching victorian premier etc from earlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViZ_vOuLg0c
IN FULL: Victoria records 57 new cases of COVID-19 | ABC News
sarahs mum said:
JudgeMental said:By June 26, just 10 days after the limousine driver’s positive test, there was only one option.
https://www.cnet.com/features/how-the-delta-variant-breached-australias-covid-fortress/
Sydney headed into lockdown.
—-
While on June 28 there was a bunch of people wondering why lockdown wasn’t happening.
EOFY sales?
sarahs mum said:
JudgeMental said:By June 26, just 10 days after the limousine driver’s positive test, there was only one option.
https://www.cnet.com/features/how-the-delta-variant-breached-australias-covid-fortress/
Sydney headed into lockdown.
—-
While on June 28 there was a bunch of people wondering why lockdown wasn’t happening.
And I been worried that they hadn’t locked Sydney down since June 17 or 18. By 18 June, I was yelling at Gladys on TV. Fat good that did.
JudgeMental said:
https://www.cnet.com/features/how-the-delta-variant-breached-australias-covid-fortress/
read some of that, I won’t continue, the bias as I saw it was evident in the address use of fortress, affirmed as I read into the article
the present situation in NSW (largely contained to that State because lockdowns are effective) is more to do with hard lockdown hesitancy than vaccine hesitancy
“It’s no longer called AstraZeneca. It’s now called Vaxzevria.”
The official name of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine has been changed.
The pharmaceutical giant says it requested Australia follow the same description used in European countries to alleviate confusion.
The Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved the change and it will now be known as Vaxzevria (Vax-zev-ree-ah).”
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Even harder to pronounce. Nice work, marketing gurus…
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-press-conference/100388754
Michael V said:
“It’s no longer called AstraZeneca. It’s now called Vaxzevria.”The official name of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine has been changed.
The pharmaceutical giant says it requested Australia follow the same description used in European countries to alleviate confusion.
The Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved the change and it will now be known as Vaxzevria (Vax-zev-ree-ah).”
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Even harder to pronounce. Nice work, marketing gurus…
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-press-conference/100388754
Whatever were they thinking?
Michael V said:
“It’s no longer called AstraZeneca. It’s now called Vaxzevria.”
The official name of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine has been changed.
The pharmaceutical giant says it requested Australia follow the same description used in European countries to alleviate confusion.
The Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved the change and it will now be known as Vaxzevria (Vax-zev-ree-ah).”
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Even harder to pronounce. Nice work, marketing gurus…
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bos poop quiz then, any of you here know what the Moderna vaccine is called, off the top of your heads
Highlight for spoiler.
Moderna: elasomeran (Spikevax)
Pfizer: tozinameran (COMIRNATY)
Michael V said:
“It’s no longer called AstraZeneca. It’s now called Vaxzevria.”The official name of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine has been changed.
The pharmaceutical giant says it requested Australia follow the same description used in European countries to alleviate confusion.
The Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved the change and it will now be known as Vaxzevria (Vax-zev-ree-ah).”
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Even harder to pronounce. Nice work, marketing gurus…
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-press-conference/100388754
I wasn’t confused.
Were you confused?
SCIENCE said:
bos poop quiz then, any of you here know what the Moderna vaccine is called, off the top of your heads
‘Unavailable’?
Michael V said:
“It’s no longer called AstraZeneca. It’s now called Vaxzevria.”The official name of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine has been changed.
The pharmaceutical giant says it requested Australia follow the same description used in European countries to alleviate confusion.
The Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved the change and it will now be known as Vaxzevria (Vax-zev-ree-ah).”
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Even harder to pronounce. Nice work, marketing gurus…
———————————————————————————————-
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-press-conference/100388754
Too late she cried.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:bos poop quiz then, any of you here know what the Moderna vaccine is called, off the top of your heads
‘Unavailable’?
fair, but they claim it’s coming soon right
apparently it’s far better than the 2 we’ve been trickling out to our citizens so far but we’ren’t holding our breaths
unless unmasked
Everyone over the age of 16 will be eligible for vaccine from the end of this month, SloMo has announced.
That means that Speedy Jnr and Little Speedy will both be eligible, so provided we don’t catch Covid before they’re both vaccinated, and that we can then get access to booster shots, and we don’t see that additional sneaky strain sneak in, we’re home-and-hosed!
Speedy said:
Everyone over the age of 16 will be eligible for vaccine from the end of this month, SloMo has announced.That means that Speedy Jnr and Little Speedy will both be eligible, so provided we don’t catch Covid before they’re both vaccinated, and that we can then get access to booster shots, and we don’t see that additional sneaky strain sneak in, we’re home-and-hosed!
Running a better percentage chance of being home-and-hosed.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
“It’s no longer called AstraZeneca. It’s now called Vaxzevria.”The official name of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine has been changed.
The pharmaceutical giant says it requested Australia follow the same description used in European countries to alleviate confusion.
The Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved the change and it will now be known as Vaxzevria (Vax-zev-ree-ah).”
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Even harder to pronounce. Nice work, marketing gurus…
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-press-conference/100388754
I wasn’t confused.
Were you confused?
Almost always.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:bos poop quiz then, any of you here know what the Moderna vaccine is called, off the top of your heads
‘Unavailable’?
LOL
Does anyone now the story about how we negotiated a milion pfizers from Poland?
sarahs mum said:
Does anyone now the story about how we negotiated a milion pfizers from Poland?
Yes, and how they were COVAX doses, intended to be donated to a poor country.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Does anyone now the story about how we negotiated a milion pfizers from Poland?Yes, and how they were COVAX doses, intended to be donated to a poor country.
poor us.
sarahs mum said:
Does anyone now the story about how we negotiated a milion pfizers from Poland?
Last month, Polish media reported its Government Strategic Reserves Agency was looking to on-sell at least four million doses of its stock, having ordered 100m doses from Pfizer. Its media reported Australia was among those nations which had shown interest.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/15/australia-secures-1m-pfizer-doses-from-poland-with-half-earmarked-for-sydney-covid-hotspots
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Does anyone now the story about how we negotiated a milion pfizers from Poland?Yes, and how they were COVAX doses, intended to be donated to a poor country.
different lot i believe.
Speedy said:
Everyone over the age of 16 will be eligible for vaccine from the end of this month, SloMo has announced.That means that Speedy Jnr and Little Speedy will both be eligible, so provided we don’t catch Covid before they’re both vaccinated, and that we can then get access to booster shots, and we don’t see that additional sneaky strain sneak in, we’re home-and-hosed!
except for all the under 12s who will soon be retarded
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Does anyone now the story about how we negotiated a milion pfizers from Poland?Yes, and how they were COVAX doses, intended to be donated to a poor country.
different lot i believe.
‘“Poland has recently offered to share vaccines mainly with low and middle-income countries, including its eastern neighbours, Balkan countries etc. The decision to also add Australia to the list was taken against the backdrop of the current outbreak of Delta variant in the country, following the talks between both countries’ officials, including the prime ministers and foreign ministers,” the spokesperson said in a statement.
Israel’s Covid surge raises questions about vaccines
Israel’s swift vaccination campaign quickly brought life back to normal. Coronavirus cases plummeted, and, by March, concerts and sporting events opened up to the vaccinated.
But a fourth wave of infections is threatening to ruin Israel’s progress. The daily rate of new virus cases has more than doubled in the past two weeks, making Israel a rising hot spot. Some are blaming the new government for not taking action quickly enough.
Restrictions were reinstated this week, and the government is considering a new lockdown. “The vaccinations were supposed to solve everything,” a public health expert said. Now, he said, it is clear that masks and crowd limits must be part of the approach.
Details: Over 8,000 new cases were reported on Monday, a six-month high, Haaretz reported. And after many days of zero Covid deaths in June, at least 230 people have died from the disease so far this month.
Explanations: It’s too soon to tell why things turned around so quickly, but experts say that Israel’s high rate of infections among early vaccine recipients indicates a waning of the vaccine’s protections over time. The highly-contagious Delta variant, now the primary version of the virus in Israel, may have also made the vaccine less effective.
…
NYTimes newsletter.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Israel’s Covid surge raises questions about vaccines
Israel’s swift vaccination campaign quickly brought life back to normal. Coronavirus cases plummeted, and, by March, concerts and sporting events opened up to the vaccinated.But a fourth wave of infections is threatening to ruin Israel’s progress. The daily rate of new virus cases has more than doubled in the past two weeks, making Israel a rising hot spot. Some are blaming the new government for not taking action quickly enough.
Restrictions were reinstated this week, and the government is considering a new lockdown. “The vaccinations were supposed to solve everything,” a public health expert said. Now, he said, it is clear that masks and crowd limits must be part of the approach.
Details: Over 8,000 new cases were reported on Monday, a six-month high, Haaretz reported. And after many days of zero Covid deaths in June, at least 230 people have died from the disease so far this month.
Explanations: It’s too soon to tell why things turned around so quickly, but experts say that Israel’s high rate of infections among early vaccine recipients indicates a waning of the vaccine’s protections over time. The highly-contagious Delta variant, now the primary version of the virus in Israel, may have also made the vaccine less effective.
…
NYTimes newsletter.
Aha So It’s True Clowntoriestan’s Strategy Of AstraZeneca Plus Let Freedom Rip Wins Out Over Israel’s Pfizer Lockdown
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
they’re saying there’s a B.1.617.2 subtype AY.3 from the USSA which is getting ready to fk up all you vaccinated trolls, got some good immune evasion going, WHO doesn’t know or doesn’t want to give it a silly name yet
just reading some about that, cryptic transmission across fully vaccinated people
now watching victorian premier etc from earlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViZ_vOuLg0c
IN FULL: Victoria records 57 new cases of COVID-19 | ABC News
sorry seems it didn’t post with image, here, apologies if repeat
Free article
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/18/alabama-doctor-unvaccinated-patients-valentine/
JudgeMental said:
Free article
“https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/18/alabama-doctor-unvaccinated-patients-valentine/“https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/18/alabama-doctor-unvaccinated-patients-valentine/
Free Speech
Anyone ever make clothes out of cat hair? Because some of them are quite fleecy.
Messaging Masterclass Conveys Clear Contrasts In Communication
Among the locations of interest for contact tracers are a casino, a school, a university lecture hall, a hospital, a cinema and several bars. Ms Ardern said more cases would come from these exposure sites, but getting to the source of the outbreak was a relief.
“While today you will see we continue to find cases downstream, there could be relatively few cases upstream, as in people who picked up the virus from the very beginning of the chain,” she said. “That’s simply because it wasn’t here for long, we believe, before it was found. On that note, can I thank again our first positive case that was identified on Tuesday. “If it wasn’t for you getting tested when you did, this could be a much, much more difficult situation.”
I’d just like to say that as a Tasmanian being warned by Gladys that there won’t be a covid=o again….pisses me off.
sarahs mum said:
I’d just like to say that as a Tasmanian being warned by Gladys that there won’t be a covid=o again….pisses me off.
You can have it on the record that we genuinely believe that such arseholes and their lackeys are hoping that if they say it enough, and screw it up enough, then they will convert enough people to their cause convince enough people that it really does become impossible to stop*.
*: well, like any other infectious disease, with the will it’s entirely possible to stop, pretty much at any point
sarahs mum said:
I’d just like to say that as a Tasmanian being warned by Gladys that there won’t be a covid=o again….pisses me off.
there’s not a few globalists be glad to get rid of States and territories, of course i’m not talking about the person you mention, of course not, but it’s in the aether, anyway covid leaking over boarders probably help with that, causes a whole lot of tensions that lend to the program, help things gravitate toward some sort of consensus democracy strongly involving the media, where you can go online and vote through a survey, you know this representative democracy business is an obstacle to the program
and imagine how inconvenient it would be if say china and australia were covid free, some obscenity like that turned up
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
I’d just like to say that as a Tasmanian being warned by Gladys that there won’t be a covid=o again….pisses me off.
there’s not a few globalists be glad to get rid of States and territories, of course i’m not talking about the person you mention, of course not, but it’s in the aether, anyway covid leaking over boarders probably help with that, causes a whole lot of tensions that lend to the program, help things gravitate toward some sort of consensus democracy strongly involving the media, where you can go online and vote through a survey, you know this representative democracy business is an obstacle to the program
and imagine how inconvenient it would be if say china and australia were covid free, some obscenity like that turned up
“only authoritarian communist islands can have a covidZero strategy”
pessimist alarmist
SCIENCE said:
pessimist alarmist
perhaps….i suppose it spotlights why enjoying all the little moments matters cos a life changing thing may come a long when people don’t expect it and change the world as we know it in a click of the fingers…just like that..
when you think about there are people in the world who live with border closers and curfews and home detention for years…admittedly for different reasons …but still…
monkey skipper said:
SCIENCE said:
pessimist alarmist
perhaps….i suppose it spotlights why enjoying all the little moments matters cos a life changing thing may come a long when people don’t expect it and change the world as we know it in a click of the fingers…just like that..
when you think about there are people in the world who live with border closers and curfews and home detention for years…admittedly for different reasons …but still…
maybe we’re just fkn nerds or something but really we don’t get it
you have this virus that spreads through the air, you can almost completely stop it with a good N95+ mask
some places / some times in the world they kill it off and then enjoy months without any restrictions, without any foreign invaders overseas tourists mucking up their streets
some times / some places there’s virus spreading and killing people and most people are a bit nervous but there’s the internet, there’s telephones, there’s good books to read and all right we admit we’re in Australia so there’s running water and electricity and bushland and things, you get to work from home, you get to hang out with family, streets are quiet, ambulances are going off
what is with all the complaining that seems to happen
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
I’d just like to say that as a Tasmanian being warned by Gladys that there won’t be a covid=o again….pisses me off.
there’s not a few globalists be glad to get rid of States and territories, of course i’m not talking about the person you mention, of course not, but it’s in the aether, anyway covid leaking over boarders probably help with that, causes a whole lot of tensions that lend to the program, help things gravitate toward some sort of consensus democracy strongly involving the media, where you can go online and vote through a survey, you know this representative democracy business is an obstacle to the program
and imagine how inconvenient it would be if say china and australia were covid free, some obscenity like that turned up
“only authoritarian communist islands can have a covidZero strategy”
well i’m half joking with a truth, a horrid truth that should be inconceivable, it would be really inconvenient, being relatively covid-free could be some basis for another dimension to a working relationship, it’s an evil proposition, but for some distractional humor thought i’d mention it, dare to say it
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
there’s not a few globalists be glad to get rid of States and territories, of course i’m not talking about the person you mention, of course not, but it’s in the aether, anyway covid leaking over boarders probably help with that, causes a whole lot of tensions that lend to the program, help things gravitate toward some sort of consensus democracy strongly involving the media, where you can go online and vote through a survey, you know this representative democracy business is an obstacle to the program
and imagine how inconvenient it would be if say china and australia were covid free, some obscenity like that turned up
“only authoritarian communist islands can have a covidZero strategy”
well i’m half joking with a truth, a horrid truth that should be inconceivable, it would be really inconvenient, being relatively covid-free could be some basis for another dimension to a working relationship, it’s an evil proposition, but for some distractional humor thought i’d mention it, dare to say it
latest we heard along the vitusberry vine is that CHINA had a big big N95+ stockpile from way back, maybe it really was a weapon to own them West after all
oh wait turns out this stockpile was actually a People’s Stockpile in individual households because they already knew how to deal with this kind of thing and other reasons to mask
One For The Rippers
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta
Aran’s message for the United States and other wealthier nations considering boosters is stark: “Do not think that the boosters are the solution.”
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communist
SCIENCE said:
Yet Another Series Of Data Confirming That 100% Efficacy Against Death Means The Case Fatality Rate Decreased By Two Thirds
pulled the above from some threads back but we get to explain it now
as you can see it really does appear that vaccine reduces chance of catching disease to 1/3, and chance of getting super sick (which we’ll conflate with dying) from disease to 1/9, approximately
SCIENCE said:
transition said:SCIENCE said:
“only authoritarian communist islands can have a covidZero strategy”
well i’m half joking with a truth, a horrid truth that should be inconceivable, it would be really inconvenient, being relatively covid-free could be some basis for another dimension to a working relationship, it’s an evil proposition, but for some distractional humor thought i’d mention it, dare to say it
latest we heard along the vitusberry vine is that CHINA had a big big N95+ stockpile from way back, maybe it really was a weapon to own them West after all
oh wait turns out this stockpile was actually a People’s Stockpile in individual households because they already knew how to deal with this kind of thing and other reasons to mask
anyway i’ll say it again
there is a flavor of globalist, very keen on a consensus reality and democracy that way, they don’t much like the obstructive things nations, and nations with states are worse, don’t like them much, don’t much like representative democracy (as it is), rather prefer a democracy that bends to consensus more easily, or comes from consensus (more bottom up, they view it), no small part of that influence, hoped for evolution involves variously media, carving out their part, on both sides of the political spectrum
I reckon there are not a few excited about covid getting away in NSW, those that are in the contagion business
The New York Times
1 hr ·
There wasn’t a single ICU bed available in Alabama on Wednesday.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02187-1?
How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says
all over in Victoria
Victoria has recorded 55 new locally acquired COVID-19 cases, 25 of whom were quarantined during their infectious period.
nice learning from NSW there
SCIENCE said:
all over in VictoriaVictoria has recorded 55 new locally acquired COVID-19 cases, 25 of whom were quarantined during their infectious period.
nice learning from NSW there
Apparently we’ve expected a lot of cases as the 13 day retest happened for the Islamic college came about.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/20/childcare-centres-urge-nsw-government-to-clarify-rules-during-delta-wave
“Please talk to us, please set something up properly, we are open to anything that will keep our families, our children, and our staff safe,” Death said. “We are concerned that inadvertently, where providers don’t have clear direction … that we might be contributing to the problem, and we would like some clear direction as soon as possible.”
JudgeMental said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/20/childcare-centres-urge-nsw-government-to-clarify-rules-during-delta-wave“Please talk to us, please set something up properly, we are open to anything that will keep our families, our children, and our staff safe,” Death said. “We are concerned that inadvertently, where providers don’t have clear direction … that we might be contributing to the problem, and we would like some clear direction as soon as possible.”
Elizabeth Death. How unfortunate.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jul/26/australias-childcare-centres-struggle-to-pay-up-to-9000-for-covid-19-cleaning
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/20/childcare-centres-urge-nsw-government-to-clarify-rules-during-delta-wave“Please talk to us, please set something up properly, we are open to anything that will keep our families, our children, and our staff safe,” Death said. “We are concerned that inadvertently, where providers don’t have clear direction … that we might be contributing to the problem, and we would like some clear direction as soon as possible.”
Elizabeth Death. How unfortunate.
yes, probably D’ Ath. as in Yvette D’Ath, Yvette Maree D’Ath is an Australian politician. She is a Labor member of the Legislative Assembly of Queensland representing the seat of Redcliffe. D’Ath is currently the Minister for Health and Ambulance Services and Leader of the House.
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
all over in Victoria
Victoria has recorded 55 new locally acquired COVID-19 cases, 25 of whom were quarantined during their infectious period.
nice learning from NSW there
Apparently we’ve expected a lot of cases as the 13 day retest happened for the Islamic college came about.
they did say that but wouldn’t those be the ones who are quarantined
who are the other 30 and where have they been
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/20/childcare-centres-urge-nsw-government-to-clarify-rules-during-delta-wave“Please talk to us, please set something up properly, we are open to anything that will keep our families, our children, and our staff safe,” Death said. “We are concerned that inadvertently, where providers don’t have clear direction … that we might be contributing to the problem, and we would like some clear direction as soon as possible.”
Elizabeth Death. How unfortunate.
yes, probably D’ Ath. as in Yvette D’Ath, Yvette Maree D’Ath is an Australian politician. She is a Labor member of the Legislative Assembly of Queensland representing the seat of Redcliffe. D’Ath is currently the Minister for Health and Ambulance Services and Leader of the House.
“Death” as a surname is also pronounced “Deeth”, to rhyme with “Teeth”.
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Elizabeth Death. How unfortunate.
yes, probably D’ Ath. as in Yvette D’Ath, Yvette Maree D’Ath is an Australian politician. She is a Labor member of the Legislative Assembly of Queensland representing the seat of Redcliffe. D’Ath is currently the Minister for Health and Ambulance Services and Leader of the House.
“Death” as a surname is also pronounced “Deeth”, to rhyme with “Teeth”.
legit’ or just because they want to disassociate
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
yes, probably D’ Ath. as in Yvette D’Ath, Yvette Maree D’Ath is an Australian politician. She is a Labor member of the Legislative Assembly of Queensland representing the seat of Redcliffe. D’Ath is currently the Minister for Health and Ambulance Services and Leader of the House.
“Death” as a surname is also pronounced “Deeth”, to rhyme with “Teeth”.
legit’ or just because they want to disassociate
it’s a Norman thing.
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
all over in Victoria
Victoria has recorded 55 new locally acquired COVID-19 cases, 25 of whom were quarantined during their infectious period.
nice learning from NSW there
Apparently we’ve expected a lot of cases as the 13 day retest happened for the Islamic college came about.
they did say that but wouldn’t those be the ones who are quarantined
who are the other 30 and where have they been
oh all right updates so we take all that back then
The state recorded 57 new locally acquired COVID-19 cases on Thursday. Of the new locally acquired cases, 54 are linked to known outbreaks and 44 have been in isolation during their infectious period. Victoria’s sixth COVID-19 lockdown has been extended in Melbourne until at least September 2 and a night curfew has been imposed from August 16. Regional Victoria was released early from lockdown at 11:59 pm on August 9.
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Elizabeth Death. How unfortunate.
yes, probably D’ Ath. as in Yvette D’Ath, Yvette Maree D’Ath is an Australian politician. She is a Labor member of the Legislative Assembly of Queensland representing the seat of Redcliffe. D’Ath is currently the Minister for Health and Ambulance Services and Leader of the House.
“Death” as a surname is also pronounced “Deeth”, to rhyme with “Teeth”.
JudgeMental said:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02187-1?How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says
Ta.
Early days in understanding Delta variant.
Even earlier for Lambda.
Michael V said:
Early days in understanding
maybe but you know this idea that in SCIENCE, we can use similar things to help understand / predict new things
surely there’s something to be said for that
example
UK Alarmists Whinge About Dead People Who Were Going To Die Anyway
It’s been a month since England dropped most of its coronavirus restrictions, a move that was welcomed by much of the country’s hard-pressed business sector but criticized by thousands of scientists as a “dangerous and unethical experiment.” But the government was determined to push ahead.
A month on, it’s becoming clear that while vaccination works, the reopening has come at a cost. “The UK is averaging around 90 deaths a day from Covid. Our reopening has been far from an unqualified success,” said Kit Yates, co-director of the Centre for Mathematical Biology at the University of Bath.
And with roughly 800 Covid-19 patients ending up in hospital each day, the UK’s public health system is once again under pressure and unable to provide non-emergency care at the level that is needed, Yates said. “There isn’t capacity to carry out all the routine treatment that’s necessary. As a result people are missing out on lifesaving treatment,” he said.
“Thankfully, although technically we’ve lifted restrictions, the UK looks a very different place than it did before the pandemic. My workplace is still practically deserted. It’s quite clear that people are not behaving as they were before the pandemic,” said Mark Woolhouse, a professor of infectious disease epidemiology at the University of Edinburgh. “There’s an awful lot of scope for people to change their behavior more to allow more transmission of the virus in the future. Whether they will, we don’t know — predicting people’s behavior in the face of an unprecedented pandemic is a fool’s game, really,” he said.
“In the last two weeks, cases in adults have started going up again, and more than you would know just from looking at the numbers, because they’re kind of masked by the big drops in cases in children,” Pagel said. She said the increase in cases is worrying, because July and August are precisely the months when it should be easier to keep infection levels down.
“Every other high income country is doing at least one of three things … they are either vaccinating adolescents, or they’re keeping in mitigation (measures) in schools such as masks and social distancing, isolation and (investing in) ventilation, or they’re keeping community transmission low … most of them are doing two of those things. We’re not doing any of them,” she said.
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:Early days in understanding
maybe but you know this idea that in SCIENCE, we can use similar things to help understand / predict new things
surely there’s something to be said for that
example
Sure.
In The Roentgenium Standard, One Month After Ideas Are Floated, They Happen Because Efficiency
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/nsw-records-642-covid-19-cases-and-four-deaths/100392702
In one of the 12 local government areas (LGAs) under enhanced lockdown ordes, a curfew will be imposed for those residents for between 9:00pm and 5:00am. The LGAs affected by the curfew are: Bayside, Blacktown, Burwood, Campbelltown, Canterbury-Bankstown, Cumberland, Fairfield, Georges River, Liverpool, Parramatta, Penrith and Strathfield.
wait we thought this shit doesn’t work, we thought only VIC authoritarian Chairman Dan worshippers do it and it still doesn’t work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXAAmo_r7W0
LIVE: Greater Sydney lockdown extended, curfew apply between 9pm to 5am | ABC News
what a dog’s breakfast stupid, and the worst that never needed be is still to come
transition said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXAAmo_r7W0
LIVE: Greater Sydney lockdown extended, curfew apply between 9pm to 5am | ABC Newswhat a dog’s breakfast stupid, and the worst that never needed be is still to come
Sounds fair.
Endangering the Nation Gladys.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/coronacheck-poland-pfizer-doses-misinformation/100391090
transition said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXAAmo_r7W0
LIVE: Greater Sydney lockdown extended, curfew apply between 9pm to 5am | ABC Newswhat a dog’s breakfast stupid, and the worst that never needed be is still to come
Nods.
party_pants said:
transition said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXAAmo_r7W0
LIVE: Greater Sydney lockdown extended, curfew apply between 9pm to 5am | ABC Newswhat a dog’s breakfast stupid, and the worst that never needed be is still to come
Sounds fair.
Endangering the Nation Gladys.
Is there some way the other states can have her arrested?
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
transition said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXAAmo_r7W0
LIVE: Greater Sydney lockdown extended, curfew apply between 9pm to 5am | ABC Newswhat a dog’s breakfast stupid, and the worst that never needed be is still to come
Sounds fair.
Endangering the Nation Gladys.
Is there some way the other states can have her arrested?
Oh, how I wish!
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
transition said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXAAmo_r7W0
LIVE: Greater Sydney lockdown extended, curfew apply between 9pm to 5am | ABC Newswhat a dog’s breakfast stupid, and the worst that never needed be is still to come
Sounds fair.
Endangering the Nation Gladys.
Is there some way the other states can have her arrested?
Legally? Probably not.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
transition said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXAAmo_r7W0
LIVE: Greater Sydney lockdown extended, curfew apply between 9pm to 5am | ABC Newswhat a dog’s breakfast stupid, and the worst that never needed be is still to come
Sounds fair.
Endangering the Nation Gladys.
Is there some way the other states can have her arrested?
giggle
transition said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXAAmo_r7W0
LIVE: Greater Sydney lockdown extended, curfew apply between 9pm to 5am | ABC Newswhat a dog’s breakfast stupid, and the worst that never needed be is still to come
She’s lucky there isnt an election soon.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:Sounds fair.
Endangering the Nation Gladys.
Is there some way the other states can have her arrested?
Legally? Probably not.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:Sounds fair.
Endangering the Nation Gladys.
Is there some way the other states can have her arrested?
giggle
It was crap when it was published. It gets st00ppider by the day.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
giggle
that aged well… not
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:Sounds fair.
Endangering the Nation Gladys.
Is there some way the other states can have her arrested?
giggle
we mean yeah she’s just saved us from an influx of burnt out healthcare workers taking refugee from dystopian populist pseudodemocracies around the world
SCIENCE said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:Is there some way the other states can have her arrested?
giggle
we mean yeah she’s just saved us from an influx of burnt out healthcare workers taking refugee from dystopian populist pseudodemocracies around the world
#quitgladys
She’s Trying to Blame YOU for Lockdown
friendlyjordies
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAQW0EuFCM4
Michael V said:
transition said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXAAmo_r7W0
LIVE: Greater Sydney lockdown extended, curfew apply between 9pm to 5am | ABC Newswhat a dog’s breakfast stupid, and the worst that never needed be is still to come
Nods.
She’s screwed the pooch big-time about controlling it, and now they’ve given up, accepted that a lot of people will just have to die, and then the business/commercial lobbyists can have their way, and everything can open up again.
In the meantime, various ‘measures’ will maintain the appearance of ‘doing something about it’.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:Sounds fair.
Endangering the Nation Gladys.
Is there some way the other states can have her arrested?
giggle
Interesting posing and framing. It has the look of the dodgy uncle saying “Come sit down here next to me…”.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
transition said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXAAmo_r7W0
LIVE: Greater Sydney lockdown extended, curfew apply between 9pm to 5am | ABC Newswhat a dog’s breakfast stupid, and the worst that never needed be is still to come
Nods.
She’s screwed the pooch big-time about controlling it, and now they’ve given up, accepted that a lot of people will just have to die, and then the business/commercial lobbyists can have their way, and everything can open up again.
In the meantime, various ‘measures’ will maintain the appearance of ‘doing something about it’.
but they’ve actually brought in kerphu now so maybe short of welding the doors there really isn’t much more to do
someone advised that earlier this week they drove around for 50 km between work and residences and not a single police to be seen
strong enforcement
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
transition said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXAAmo_r7W0
LIVE: Greater Sydney lockdown extended, curfew apply between 9pm to 5am | ABC Newswhat a dog’s breakfast stupid, and the worst that never needed be is still to come
Nods.
She’s screwed the pooch big-time about controlling it, and now they’ve given up, accepted that a lot of people will just have to die, and then the business/commercial lobbyists can have their way, and everything can open up again.
In the meantime, various ‘measures’ will maintain the appearance of ‘doing something about it’.
the pressures to dilute various administrations of Nation and States (and representative democracy) doesn’t just come from the money-side, of the more Left there are kindred globalists also that variously employ or deploy activist methods, variously exploiting special license and privilege related ethnicity etc, similar applies of some dual citizen and multi-citizen type ideas of the world
i’d conjecture there’s been some special license and privilege at work toward and within the ethnic eclectic, and those of a more fluid view of the globe, diluting the Sate and National interests, which to me nearly qualifies as terrorism, certainly has me thinking about it anyway
lot of it’s been played out in the media, by the media is my view
and they’re imperiling the lives of people, is my personal view
transition said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Nods.
She’s screwed the pooch big-time about controlling it, and now they’ve given up, accepted that a lot of people will just have to die, and then the business/commercial lobbyists can have their way, and everything can open up again.
In the meantime, various ‘measures’ will maintain the appearance of ‘doing something about it’.
the pressures to dilute various administrations of Nation and States (and representative democracy) doesn’t just come from the money-side, of the more Left there are kindred globalists also that variously employ or deploy activist methods, variously exploiting special license and privilege related ethnicity etc, similar applies of some dual citizen and multi-citizen type ideas of the world
i’d conjecture there’s been some special license and privilege at work toward and within the ethnic eclectic, and those of a more fluid view of the globe, diluting the Sate and National interests, which to me nearly qualifies as terrorism, certainly has me thinking about it anyway
lot of it’s been played out in the media, by the media is my view
and they’re imperiling the lives of people, is my personal view
transition said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:Nods.
She’s screwed the pooch big-time about controlling it, and now they’ve given up, accepted that a lot of people will just have to die, and then the business/commercial lobbyists can have their way, and everything can open up again.
In the meantime, various ‘measures’ will maintain the appearance of ‘doing something about it’.
the pressures to dilute various administrations of Nation and States (and representative democracy) doesn’t just come from the money-side, of the more Left there are kindred globalists also that variously employ or deploy activist methods, variously exploiting special license and privilege related ethnicity etc, similar applies of some dual citizen and multi-citizen type ideas of the world
i’d conjecture there’s been some special license and privilege at work toward and within the ethnic eclectic, and those of a more fluid view of the globe, diluting the Sate and National interests, which to me nearly qualifies as terrorism, certainly has me thinking about it anyway
lot of it’s been played out in the media, by the media is my view
and they’re imperiling the lives of people, is my personal view
I don’t like diluted sate either. Full strength sauce for me.
Michael V said:
transition said:
captain_spalding said:She’s screwed the pooch big-time about controlling it, and now they’ve given up, accepted that a lot of people will just have to die, and then the business/commercial lobbyists can have their way, and everything can open up again.
In the meantime, various ‘measures’ will maintain the appearance of ‘doing something about it’.
the pressures to dilute various administrations of Nation and States (and representative democracy) doesn’t just come from the money-side, of the more Left there are kindred globalists also that variously employ or deploy activist methods, variously exploiting special license and privilege related ethnicity etc, similar applies of some dual citizen and multi-citizen type ideas of the world
i’d conjecture there’s been some special license and privilege at work toward and within the ethnic eclectic, and those of a more fluid view of the globe, diluting the Sate and National interests, which to me nearly qualifies as terrorism, certainly has me thinking about it anyway
lot of it’s been played out in the media, by the media is my view
and they’re imperiling the lives of people, is my personal view
I don’t like diluted sate either. Full strength sauce for me.
chuckle
transition said:
Michael V said:I don’t like diluted sate either. Full strength sauce for me.
chuckle
‘Sate’, ‘State’.
They both have a lot of peanuts in them.
captain_spalding said:
transition said:
Michael V said:I don’t like diluted sate either. Full strength sauce for me.
chuckle
‘Sate’, ‘State’.
They both have a lot of peanuts in them.
:)
I quite like to sate my appetite with sate.
SCIENCE said:
‘International Museum of Modest Arts’
Motto:
‘Shucks, it ain’t much, but…’
transition said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:Nods.
She’s screwed the pooch big-time about controlling it, and now they’ve given up, accepted that a lot of people will just have to die, and then the business/commercial lobbyists can have their way, and everything can open up again.
In the meantime, various ‘measures’ will maintain the appearance of ‘doing something about it’.
the pressures to dilute various administrations of Nation and States (and representative democracy) doesn’t just come from the money-side, of the more Left there are kindred globalists also that variously employ or deploy activist methods, variously exploiting special license and privilege related ethnicity etc, similar applies of some dual citizen and multi-citizen type ideas of the world
i’d conjecture there’s been some special license and privilege at work toward and within the ethnic eclectic, and those of a more fluid view of the globe, diluting the Sate and National interests, which to me nearly qualifies as terrorism, certainly has me thinking about it anyway
lot of it’s been played out in the media, by the media is my view
and they’re imperiling the lives of people, is my personal view
[/quoh I agree. A friend sent me a link. This Is SO IMPORTANT. You Need To Check Out What Charlie Kirk Is Saying About The Tyrannical Lockdown Orders! #BigGovSucks
transition said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:Nods.
She’s screwed the pooch big-time about controlling it, and now they’ve given up, accepted that a lot of people will just have to die, and then the business/commercial lobbyists can have their way, and everything can open up again.
In the meantime, various ‘measures’ will maintain the appearance of ‘doing something about it’.
Can you give us some examples.
Just so we know what you are talking about.
the pressures to dilute various administrations of Nation and States (and representative democracy) doesn’t just come from the money-side, of the more Left there are kindred globalists also that variously employ or deploy activist methods, variously exploiting special license and privilege related ethnicity etc, similar applies of some dual citizen and multi-citizen type ideas of the world
i’d conjecture there’s been some special license and privilege at work toward and within the ethnic eclectic, and those of a more fluid view of the globe, diluting the Sate and National interests, which to me nearly qualifies as terrorism, certainly has me thinking about it anyway
lot of it’s been played out in the media, by the media is my view
and they’re imperiling the lives of people, is my personal view
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
transition said:chuckle
‘Sate’, ‘State’.
They both have a lot of peanuts in them.
:)
I quite like to sate my appetite with sate.
transition said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:Nods.
She’s screwed the pooch big-time about controlling it, and now they’ve given up, accepted that a lot of people will just have to die, and then the business/commercial lobbyists can have their way, and everything can open up again.
In the meantime, various ‘measures’ will maintain the appearance of ‘doing something about it’.
the pressures to dilute various administrations of Nation and States (and representative democracy) doesn’t just come from the money-side, of the more Left there are kindred globalists also that variously employ or deploy activist methods, variously exploiting special license and privilege related ethnicity etc, similar applies of some dual citizen and multi-citizen type ideas of the world
i’d conjecture there’s been some special license and privilege at work toward and within the ethnic eclectic, and those of a more fluid view of the globe, diluting the Sate and National interests, which to me nearly qualifies as terrorism, certainly has me thinking about it anyway
lot of it’s been played out in the media, by the media is my view
and they’re imperiling the lives of people, is my personal view
Or even:
Can you give us some examples?
Just so we know what you are talking about.
laugh out loud looks like transition sneaked in a quotation booby trap in h’ post there
SCIENCE said:
laugh out loud looks like transition sneaked in a quotation booby trap in h’ post there
I should know to watch out for those by now.
New Zealand will extend its nationwide lockdown for another four days after recording another 11 cases of COVID-19.
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says they still don’t know the extent of their Delta outbreak, which has been linked to a traveller from Sydney.
Auckland residents were already set to be in lockdown until Tuesday, but now the rest of the country will join them.
The cabinet will meet again on Monday to decide if another extension is needed.
friendlyjordies
546K subscribers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAQW0EuFCM4
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Some of this is possibly hyperbole but my cynical side agrees.
Ian said:
friendlyjordies
546K subscribershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAQW0EuFCM4
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Some of this is possibly hyperbole but my cynical side agrees.
doubt cynicism is required, and i’d expect a lot of people are or have arrived at same, or similar view, doesn’t need agreement to get to that, to independently observe an unfolding stupid made actual, amplified
Dark Orange said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Bubblecar said:Is there some way the other states can have her arrested?
giggle
Interesting posing and framing. It has the look of the dodgy uncle saying “Come sit down here next to me…”.
What is the date on that?
buffy said:
Dark Orange said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
giggle
Interesting posing and framing. It has the look of the dodgy uncle saying “Come sit down here next to me…”.
What is the date on that?
May 2021
sibeen said:
buffy said:
Dark Orange said:Interesting posing and framing. It has the look of the dodgy uncle saying “Come sit down here next to me…”.
What is the date on that?
May 2021
Yes, she saved us, all right.
Managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Oh, oh, Shep. Don’t you send us into full lockdown too…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/victoria-covid-cases-melbourne-lockdown-outbreak/100392674
So with lockdown going into next month here in Sydney I guess I’m not going to meet my grand daughter who is due in less than a month any time soon.
Deciding if we should just write off xmass now rather than get our hopes up.
I fucking hate everything right now
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
I fucking hate everything right now
I gunna tell Beer you said that!!!
transition said:
Ian said:
friendlyjordies
546K subscribershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAQW0EuFCM4
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Some of this is possibly hyperbole but my cynical side agrees.
doubt cynicism is required, and i’d expect a lot of people are or have arrived at same, or similar view, doesn’t need agreement to get to that, to independently observe an unfolding stupid made actual, amplified
no but at least it’s taken the heat off our dear leader Marketing, should be good for the next entertainment cycle
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
So with lockdown going into next month here in Sydney I guess I’m not going to meet my grand daughter who is due in less than a month any time soon.Deciding if we should just write off xmass now rather than get our hopes up.
I fucking hate everything right now
> I fucking hate everything right now
Thank you for the emotional support. It’s wonderful to know that I’m not the only one feeling likie that. :-)
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
So with lockdown going into next month here in Sydney I guess I’m not going to meet my grand daughter who is due in less than a month any time soon.
Deciding if we should just write off xmass now rather than get our hopes up.
I fucking hate everything right now
can you video conference
SCIENCE said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
So with lockdown going into next month here in Sydney I guess I’m not going to meet my grand daughter who is due in less than a month any time soon.
Deciding if we should just write off xmass now rather than get our hopes up.
I fucking hate everything right now
can you video conference
Of course and we will but yeah fuck video conferencing too.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
So with lockdown going into next month here in Sydney I guess I’m not going to meet my grand daughter who is due in less than a month any time soon.Deciding if we should just write off xmass now rather than get our hopes up.
I fucking hate everything right now
Have a beer.
;)
Ms Berejiklian said police would be looking out for people on the roads after curfew, who could be fined.
“It is time for all of us to bunker down and take this as seriously as we can,” she said.
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unspoken: compared to the last 8 weeks
Speaking of which, it’s time to declare FNDC OPEN.
Bogsnorkler said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:I fucking hate everything right now
I gunna tell Beer you said that!!!
Lol beer don’t care. I’m making 20 liters a week and can’t keep up with demand. I had to get two fresh wort kits delivered last week so I could get beer into kegs.
mollwollfumble said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
So with lockdown going into next month here in Sydney I guess I’m not going to meet my grand daughter who is due in less than a month any time soon.Deciding if we should just write off xmass now rather than get our hopes up.
I fucking hate everything right now
> I fucking hate everything right now
Thank you for the emotional support. It’s wonderful to know that I’m not the only one feeling likie that. :-)
Had a lifelong friend call whose mother was my favourite teacher. She taught me in 3rd class. Anyway, she died and her daughter said “I hate covid with a passion. We have to do a video conference funeral”.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
So with lockdown going into next month here in Sydney I guess I’m not going to meet my grand daughter who is due in less than a month any time soon.Deciding if we should just write off xmass now rather than get our hopes up.
I fucking hate everything right now
{hugs}
:(
roughbarked said:
mollwollfumble said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
So with lockdown going into next month here in Sydney I guess I’m not going to meet my grand daughter who is due in less than a month any time soon.Deciding if we should just write off xmass now rather than get our hopes up.
I fucking hate everything right now
> I fucking hate everything right now
Thank you for the emotional support. It’s wonderful to know that I’m not the only one feeling likie that. :-)
Had a lifelong friend call whose mother was my favourite teacher. She taught me in 3rd class. Anyway, she died and her daughter said “I hate covid with a passion. We have to do a video conference funeral”.
The lady who watches the kids in my bus had to watch them bury her cousin by video a few months back. I mean we literally just dropped off the last kid and she was balling as she looked on the funeral of her cousin via video on her phone because she couldn’t even go if she didn’t have to work…. It was fuckin surreal. I was thinking to myself what the fuck….
No wonder people end up fucked in the head trying to deal with shit
Chris Ingall, a paediatrician in Lismore, NSW, said he was concerned border complications were placing infants’ and children’s lives at risk. Dr Ingall said it felt like déjà vu from a similar situation in 2020.
“Three of those four we had to send down to Newcastle because Queensland Health dictated that the parent would have to go into separate, self-funded hotel accommodation for two weeks of quarantine away from their child,” he said. “So, the parents say, ‘Look, I will just have to go south, even though I am moving away from my supports and family’ and so forth.
“There is this intractable Queensland Health approach, which I think is putting children’s and babies’ lives at risk.”
poor Gutless how could she have known
mansplaining bullying a vulnerable leader just trying not to do her job
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WA Premier Mark McGowan says the NSW government has been taking “half measures” and would be over this outbreak already if they had followed the lead of other states.
He said face mask requirements should come in for all areas, not just some LGAs.
“It’s gone on now for two months, whereby they’ve had insufficient measures in place,” he said.
“If they put the right things in place back in June, I suspect they’d be out of it now.
“So now, they continue to do half measures. I don’t understand it. It’s actually illogical.
“It’s so frustrating to watch what they do, the NSW government does. They always put in place half measures.”
SCIENCE said:
Ms Berejiklian said police would be looking out for people on the roads after curfew, who could be fined.“It is time for all of us to bunker down and take this as seriously as we can,” she said.
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unspoken: compared to the last 8 weeks
No curfew here in my part of Sydney, so we (all) are not taking this as seriously as we can. I do not know, however, whether Mr Speedy will still be allowed to work up at the Central Coast next week, but I have almost all of next week to check the new guidelines and they have the same length of time to complicate them further.
Speedy said:
SCIENCE said:
Ms Berejiklian said police would be looking out for people on the roads after curfew, who could be fined.“It is time for all of us to bunker down and take this as seriously as we can,” she said.
—
unspoken: compared to the last 8 weeks
No curfew here in my part of Sydney, so we (all) are not taking this as seriously as we can. I do not know, however, whether Mr Speedy will still be allowed to work up at the Central Coast next week, but I have almost all of next week to check the new guidelines and they have the same length of time to complicate them further.
Omg this. I have to cross LGAs to get to work I can’t work out of I need a permit to do this or if I don’t. Some stuff reads like I do and other stuff reads like I only have to get one for coming in or out of greater Sydney.
No fucking idea atm and I can’t be arsed sorting it out today. Tomorrow Trev can deal with that dumpster fire
SCIENCE said:
mansplaining bullying a vulnerable leader just trying not to do her job—
WA Premier Mark McGowan says the NSW government has been taking “half measures” and would be over this outbreak already if they had followed the lead of other states.
He said face mask requirements should come in for all areas, not just some LGAs.
“It’s gone on now for two months, whereby they’ve had insufficient measures in place,” he said.
“If they put the right things in place back in June, I suspect they’d be out of it now.
“So now, they continue to do half measures. I don’t understand it. It’s actually illogical.
“It’s so frustrating to watch what they do, the NSW government does. They always put in place half measures.”
you fucking tell ‘em Marky!
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
mansplaining bullying a vulnerable leader just trying not to do her job—
WA Premier Mark McGowan says the NSW government has been taking “half measures” and would be over this outbreak already if they had followed the lead of other states.
He said face mask requirements should come in for all areas, not just some LGAs.
“It’s gone on now for two months, whereby they’ve had insufficient measures in place,” he said.
“If they put the right things in place back in June, I suspect they’d be out of it now.
“So now, they continue to do half measures. I don’t understand it. It’s actually illogical.
“It’s so frustrating to watch what they do, the NSW government does. They always put in place half measures.”
you fucking tell ‘em Marky!
Marky & Dan for PM!
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
mansplaining bullying a vulnerable leader just trying not to do her job—
WA Premier Mark McGowan says the NSW government has been taking “half measures” and would be over this outbreak already if they had followed the lead of other states.
He said face mask requirements should come in for all areas, not just some LGAs.
“It’s gone on now for two months, whereby they’ve had insufficient measures in place,” he said.
“If they put the right things in place back in June, I suspect they’d be out of it now.
“So now, they continue to do half measures. I don’t understand it. It’s actually illogical.
“It’s so frustrating to watch what they do, the NSW government does. They always put in place half measures.”
you fucking tell ‘em Marky!
What young Mark doesn’t realise is that NSW has the toughest and strictest lockdown rules this nation has ever seen.
Gladys for the ALL-TIME HALL OF SHAME.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
mansplaining bullying a vulnerable leader just trying not to do her job—
WA Premier Mark McGowan says the NSW government has been taking “half measures” and would be over this outbreak already if they had followed the lead of other states.
He said face mask requirements should come in for all areas, not just some LGAs.
“It’s gone on now for two months, whereby they’ve had insufficient measures in place,” he said.
“If they put the right things in place back in June, I suspect they’d be out of it now.
“So now, they continue to do half measures. I don’t understand it. It’s actually illogical.
“It’s so frustrating to watch what they do, the NSW government does. They always put in place half measures.”
you fucking tell ‘em Marky!
What young Mark doesn’t realise is that NSW has the toughest and strictest lockdown rules this nation has ever seen.
Too late she cried as she waved her wooden leg.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Speedy said:
SCIENCE said:
Ms Berejiklian said police would be looking out for people on the roads after curfew, who could be fined.“It is time for all of us to bunker down and take this as seriously as we can,” she said.
—
unspoken: compared to the last 8 weeks
No curfew here in my part of Sydney, so we (all) are not taking this as seriously as we can. I do not know, however, whether Mr Speedy will still be allowed to work up at the Central Coast next week, but I have almost all of next week to check the new guidelines and they have the same length of time to complicate them further.
Omg this. I have to cross LGAs to get to work I can’t work out of I need a permit to do this or if I don’t. Some stuff reads like I do and other stuff reads like I only have to get one for coming in or out of greater Sydney.
No fucking idea atm and I can’t be arsed sorting it out today. Tomorrow Trev can deal with that dumpster fire
I’ve been going here and clicking on the top link in the list, as it is the official legislation and has a little more detail. The problem is that it doesn’t get updated until the new legislation is actually in force.
https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/information/covid19-legislation/temporary-movement-gathering-restrictions
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Speedy said:
SCIENCE said:
Ms Berejiklian said police would be looking out for people on the roads after curfew, who could be fined.“It is time for all of us to bunker down and take this as seriously as we can,” she said.
—
unspoken: compared to the last 8 weeks
No curfew here in my part of Sydney, so we (all) are not taking this as seriously as we can. I do not know, however, whether Mr Speedy will still be allowed to work up at the Central Coast next week, but I have almost all of next week to check the new guidelines and they have the same length of time to complicate them further.
Omg this. I have to cross LGAs to get to work I can’t work out of I need a permit to do this or if I don’t. Some stuff reads like I do and other stuff reads like I only have to get one for coming in or out of greater Sydney.
No fucking idea atm and I can’t be arsed sorting it out today. Tomorrow Trev can deal with that dumpster fire
We have “Melbourne” and “not Melbourne”. Although I have to say it’s been hard to take when “not Melbourne” gets restrictions because someplace on the other side of the state has got a case. But it’s easier to understand where you stand than using LGAs in suburban areas.
Speedy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Speedy said:No curfew here in my part of Sydney, so we (all) are not taking this as seriously as we can. I do not know, however, whether Mr Speedy will still be allowed to work up at the Central Coast next week, but I have almost all of next week to check the new guidelines and they have the same length of time to complicate them further.
Omg this. I have to cross LGAs to get to work I can’t work out of I need a permit to do this or if I don’t. Some stuff reads like I do and other stuff reads like I only have to get one for coming in or out of greater Sydney.
No fucking idea atm and I can’t be arsed sorting it out today. Tomorrow Trev can deal with that dumpster fire
I’ve been going here and clicking on the top link in the list, as it is the official legislation and has a little more detail. The problem is that it doesn’t get updated until the new legislation is actually in force.
https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/information/covid19-legislation/temporary-movement-gathering-restrictions
Tomorrow Trev thanks you.
buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Speedy said:No curfew here in my part of Sydney, so we (all) are not taking this as seriously as we can. I do not know, however, whether Mr Speedy will still be allowed to work up at the Central Coast next week, but I have almost all of next week to check the new guidelines and they have the same length of time to complicate them further.
Omg this. I have to cross LGAs to get to work I can’t work out of I need a permit to do this or if I don’t. Some stuff reads like I do and other stuff reads like I only have to get one for coming in or out of greater Sydney.
No fucking idea atm and I can’t be arsed sorting it out today. Tomorrow Trev can deal with that dumpster fire
We have “Melbourne” and “not Melbourne”. Although I have to say it’s been hard to take when “not Melbourne” gets restrictions because someplace on the other side of the state has got a case. But it’s easier to understand where you stand than using LGAs in suburban areas.
Many people don’t even know what an LGA is.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Speedy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Omg this. I have to cross LGAs to get to work I can’t work out of I need a permit to do this or if I don’t. Some stuff reads like I do and other stuff reads like I only have to get one for coming in or out of greater Sydney.
No fucking idea atm and I can’t be arsed sorting it out today. Tomorrow Trev can deal with that dumpster fire
I’ve been going here and clicking on the top link in the list, as it is the official legislation and has a little more detail. The problem is that it doesn’t get updated until the new legislation is actually in force.
https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/information/covid19-legislation/temporary-movement-gathering-restrictions
Tomorrow Trev thanks you.
:) No worries Tomorrow trev!
Speedy said:
buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Omg this. I have to cross LGAs to get to work I can’t work out of I need a permit to do this or if I don’t. Some stuff reads like I do and other stuff reads like I only have to get one for coming in or out of greater Sydney.
No fucking idea atm and I can’t be arsed sorting it out today. Tomorrow Trev can deal with that dumpster fire
We have “Melbourne” and “not Melbourne”. Although I have to say it’s been hard to take when “not Melbourne” gets restrictions because someplace on the other side of the state has got a case. But it’s easier to understand where you stand than using LGAs in suburban areas.
Many people don’t even know what an LGA is.
I’ll admit it took me a while to cotton on, because we haven’t used them as far as I recall.
buffy said:
Speedy said:
buffy said:We have “Melbourne” and “not Melbourne”. Although I have to say it’s been hard to take when “not Melbourne” gets restrictions because someplace on the other side of the state has got a case. But it’s easier to understand where you stand than using LGAs in suburban areas.
Many people don’t even know what an LGA is.
I’ll admit it took me a while to cotton on, because we haven’t used them as far as I recall.
I only learnt what it meant about 10 years ago.
buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Speedy said:No curfew here in my part of Sydney, so we (all) are not taking this as seriously as we can. I do not know, however, whether Mr Speedy will still be allowed to work up at the Central Coast next week, but I have almost all of next week to check the new guidelines and they have the same length of time to complicate them further.
Omg this. I have to cross LGAs to get to work I can’t work out of I need a permit to do this or if I don’t. Some stuff reads like I do and other stuff reads like I only have to get one for coming in or out of greater Sydney.
No fucking idea atm and I can’t be arsed sorting it out today. Tomorrow Trev can deal with that dumpster fire
We have “Melbourne” and “not Melbourne”. Although I have to say it’s been hard to take when “not Melbourne” gets restrictions because someplace on the other side of the state has got a case. But it’s easier to understand where you stand than using LGAs in suburban areas.
Even in the bush. I don’t know the boundaries of my LGA.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Omg this. I have to cross LGAs to get to work I can’t work out of I need a permit to do this or if I don’t. Some stuff reads like I do and other stuff reads like I only have to get one for coming in or out of greater Sydney.
No fucking idea atm and I can’t be arsed sorting it out today. Tomorrow Trev can deal with that dumpster fire
We have “Melbourne” and “not Melbourne”. Although I have to say it’s been hard to take when “not Melbourne” gets restrictions because someplace on the other side of the state has got a case. But it’s easier to understand where you stand than using LGAs in suburban areas.
Even in the bush. I don’t know the boundaries of my LGA.
There are signs on the highways “Goodbye from ….” and “Welcome to ….”. But for any other roads, no idea. Our local government areas are reasonably big. If we go to Casterton (100km) we go from Shire of Southern Grampians into Shire of Glenelg. Likewise if we go to Digby. If we go to Warrnambool (70km) we go into Shire of Moyne. And I think Warrnambool might be a separate area from Moyne.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/
20,000 current cases. Only 30 critical or serious. Not much going on in the way of dying.
But Israel, highly vaccinated, has 61,800 active cases, 599 serious or critical and the deaths are starting to rise again.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/australia-records-zero-flu-deaths-over-past-12-mon
dv said:
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/australia-records-zero-flu-deaths-over-past-12-mon
Nice. Masks, hand cleaning and social distancing work for another airborne communicable disease.
:)
Sydney anti-lockdown protest organiser jailed for at least three months.
It’s starting to get serious.
Michael V said:
dv said:
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/australia-records-zero-flu-deaths-over-past-12-mon
Nice. Masks, hand cleaning and social distancing work for another airborne communicable disease.
:)
yeah but that just means we’ll have to rely on Die With COVID-19 ^TM to clean up our old decrepit expensive unproductive losers
roughbarked said:
Sydney anti-lockdown protest organiser jailed for at least three months.It’s starting to get serious.
Nice timing. This is what I found…
Sydney ‘protest leader’ jailed
Shireen Khalil
Alleged organiser of a proposed anti-lockdown protest, Queensland-based Anthony Khallouf, 29, will face eight months behind bars.
Police said he was sentenced over his involvement in organising an unauthorised protest due to take place in central Sydney this weekend, as well as multiple breaches of the Public Health Order.
“He was arrested following an investigation by detectives from North Shore Police Area Command into breaches of Public Health Orders, including travelling from Queensland to Sydney and his involvement in planning an unauthorised protest for this weekend,” a NSW Police statement read.
Khallouf, an online anti-lockdown activist, who is originally from Victoria, appeared at Hornsby Local Court on Friday.
He pleaded guilty to four counts of not comply with noticed direction, encourage the commission of crimes and false representation resulting in police investigation.
“He was subsequently sentenced to a maximum of eight months in prison, with non-parole period of three months,” NSW Police said.
NSW police and the government, meanwhile, urged all state residents to not attend any planned protests amid COVID-19 lockdown.
A significant police presence can be expected in Sydney CBD and surrounds, as well as on major roadways, the public transport network and Sydney Harbour on Saturday, August 21.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Sydney anti-lockdown protest organiser jailed for at least three months.It’s starting to get serious.
Nice timing. This is what I found…
Sydney ‘protest leader’ jailed
Shireen Khalil
Alleged organiser of a proposed anti-lockdown protest, Queensland-based Anthony Khallouf, 29, will face eight months behind bars.Police said he was sentenced over his involvement in organising an unauthorised protest due to take place in central Sydney this weekend, as well as multiple breaches of the Public Health Order.
“He was arrested following an investigation by detectives from North Shore Police Area Command into breaches of Public Health Orders, including travelling from Queensland to Sydney and his involvement in planning an unauthorised protest for this weekend,” a NSW Police statement read.
Khallouf, an online anti-lockdown activist, who is originally from Victoria, appeared at Hornsby Local Court on Friday.
He pleaded guilty to four counts of not comply with noticed direction, encourage the commission of crimes and false representation resulting in police investigation.
“He was subsequently sentenced to a maximum of eight months in prison, with non-parole period of three months,” NSW Police said.
NSW police and the government, meanwhile, urged all state residents to not attend any planned protests amid COVID-19 lockdown.
A significant police presence can be expected in Sydney CBD and surrounds, as well as on major roadways, the public transport network and Sydney Harbour on Saturday, August 21.
I read that one. “Alleged”??? he’s been sentenced so there is no alleged anymore.
:-)
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Sydney anti-lockdown protest organiser jailed for at least three months.It’s starting to get serious.
Nice timing. This is what I found…
Sydney ‘protest leader’ jailed
Shireen Khalil
Alleged organiser of a proposed anti-lockdown protest, Queensland-based Anthony Khallouf, 29, will face eight months behind bars.Police said he was sentenced over his involvement in organising an unauthorised protest due to take place in central Sydney this weekend, as well as multiple breaches of the Public Health Order.
“He was arrested following an investigation by detectives from North Shore Police Area Command into breaches of Public Health Orders, including travelling from Queensland to Sydney and his involvement in planning an unauthorised protest for this weekend,” a NSW Police statement read.
Khallouf, an online anti-lockdown activist, who is originally from Victoria, appeared at Hornsby Local Court on Friday.
He pleaded guilty to four counts of not comply with noticed direction, encourage the commission of crimes and false representation resulting in police investigation.
“He was subsequently sentenced to a maximum of eight months in prison, with non-parole period of three months,” NSW Police said.
NSW police and the government, meanwhile, urged all state residents to not attend any planned protests amid COVID-19 lockdown.
A significant police presence can be expected in Sydney CBD and surrounds, as well as on major roadways, the public transport network and Sydney Harbour on Saturday, August 21.
I read that one. “Alleged”??? he’s been sentenced so there is no alleged anymore.
:-)
True dat.
He pleaded guilty to four counts of not comply with noticed direction, encourage the commission of crimes and false representation resulting in police investigation.
So a coward and a cnut! Rot there cnut while I don’t get to see my granddaughter next month.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Sydney anti-lockdown protest organiser jailed for at least three months.It’s starting to get serious.
Nice timing. This is what I found…
Sydney ‘protest leader’ jailed
Shireen Khalil
Alleged organiser of a proposed anti-lockdown protest, Queensland-based Anthony Khallouf, 29, will face eight months behind bars.Police said he was sentenced over his involvement in organising an unauthorised protest due to take place in central Sydney this weekend, as well as multiple breaches of the Public Health Order.
“He was arrested following an investigation by detectives from North Shore Police Area Command into breaches of Public Health Orders, including travelling from Queensland to Sydney and his involvement in planning an unauthorised protest for this weekend,” a NSW Police statement read.
Khallouf, an online anti-lockdown activist, who is originally from Victoria, appeared at Hornsby Local Court on Friday.
He pleaded guilty to four counts of not comply with noticed direction, encourage the commission of crimes and false representation resulting in police investigation.
“He was subsequently sentenced to a maximum of eight months in prison, with non-parole period of three months,” NSW Police said.
NSW police and the government, meanwhile, urged all state residents to not attend any planned protests amid COVID-19 lockdown.
A significant police presence can be expected in Sydney CBD and surrounds, as well as on major roadways, the public transport network and Sydney Harbour on Saturday, August 21.
8 months seems a long time. Yeah I realise there has to be some seriousnessness. Do arsonists on the full ban days get 8 months?
roughbarked said:
Sydney anti-lockdown protest organiser jailed for at least three months.
It’s starting to get serious.
so lockdown, 3 months staying isolated
crime against lockdown, 3 months staying isolated
doesn’t seem that serious
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Sydney anti-lockdown protest organiser jailed for at least three months.It’s starting to get serious.
Nice timing. This is what I found…
Sydney ‘protest leader’ jailed
Shireen Khalil
Alleged organiser of a proposed anti-lockdown protest, Queensland-based Anthony Khallouf, 29, will face eight months behind bars.Police said he was sentenced over his involvement in organising an unauthorised protest due to take place in central Sydney this weekend, as well as multiple breaches of the Public Health Order.
“He was arrested following an investigation by detectives from North Shore Police Area Command into breaches of Public Health Orders, including travelling from Queensland to Sydney and his involvement in planning an unauthorised protest for this weekend,” a NSW Police statement read.
Khallouf, an online anti-lockdown activist, who is originally from Victoria, appeared at Hornsby Local Court on Friday.
He pleaded guilty to four counts of not comply with noticed direction, encourage the commission of crimes and false representation resulting in police investigation.
“He was subsequently sentenced to a maximum of eight months in prison, with non-parole period of three months,” NSW Police said.
NSW police and the government, meanwhile, urged all state residents to not attend any planned protests amid COVID-19 lockdown.
A significant police presence can be expected in Sydney CBD and surrounds, as well as on major roadways, the public transport network and Sydney Harbour on Saturday, August 21.
8 months seems a long time. Yeah I realise there has to be some seriousnessness. Do arsonists on the full ban days get 8 months?
I have no idea. This guy from what I can make of it is a Victorian that lives in Queensland who came to New South Wales to protest ….fnck him.
Under Section 198 of the Crimes Act, a person commits an offence if they destroy or damage property with the intention of endangering the life of another. This offence carries a maximum of 25 years imprisonment.
https://www.gotocourt.com.au/criminal-law/nsw/arson-offences/
I kinda looks it up. Dunno how accurate that site is but ya I still say fuck him.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:Sydney anti-lockdown protest organiser jailed for at least three months.
It’s starting to get serious.
so lockdown, 3 months staying isolated
crime against lockdown, 3 months staying isolated
doesn’t seem that serious
You’re forgetting the prison bum-sex.
Speedy said:
what about unmasked fools playing tennis in a car park underground
Also if someone dies from someone coming arson they might get manslaughter charges.
Do these cnts face similar charges?
Commiting*
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:Sydney anti-lockdown protest organiser jailed for at least three months.
It’s starting to get serious.
so lockdown, 3 months staying isolated
crime against lockdown, 3 months staying isolated
doesn’t seem that serious
Would be if it was solitary confinement.
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:Sydney anti-lockdown protest organiser jailed for at least three months.
It’s starting to get serious.
so lockdown, 3 months staying isolated
crime against lockdown, 3 months staying isolated
doesn’t seem that serious
You’re forgetting the prison bum-sex.
wait so they don’t even need to nominate their singles bubbler or pay a professional for the privilege damn
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Sydney anti-lockdown protest organiser jailed for at least three months.
It’s starting to get serious.
so lockdown, 3 months staying isolated
crime against lockdown, 3 months staying isolated
doesn’t seem that serious
Would be if it was solitary confinement.
no social media boom
sibeen said:
Pretty much.
The drug, developed by Regeneron and Roche, is given either by injection or infusion and acts at the lining of the respiratory system where it binds tightly to the virus and prevents it from gaining access to the cells, the MHRA says.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/20/uk-approves-rollout-covid-antibody-treatment-ronapreve-clinical-trials
See They Don’t Have Things Like This In NSW
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/abdulfatah-awow-charged-with-stalking-woman/100390368
A man hired to help contact tracers in Victoria stalked a woman who was in isolation, turned up to her home and demanded sex, police allege. Mr Awow was arrested last week and is facing more than 10 charges, including aggravated burglary, stalking, impersonating an authorised officer and attempting to procure a sexual act by threats and fraud. Police said Mr Awow was hired by a company contracted to complete research and data analysis for the Department of Health’s COVID contact tracing team. He had access to the personal details of people in isolation, and part of his role was to complete welfare checks.
While in her bedroom, Mr Awow allegedly told the woman she was not complying with the orders of her isolation and could be “in a lot of trouble”. He is accused of warning the woman that she could be deported. “He suggested to the victim that if they have sex he won’t inform the government of her non-compliance of the isolation requirements,” police allege. “The accused stated that other women whom he had checked on had complied with his requests and due to complying with his requests, they didn’t get in trouble,” police claimed.
But Only Because They Haven’t Got Many People Isolating
—
and yes we agree how low can some people go
ZeroCOVID-19 Alarmists (Or Just Victorians) Probably Paid These Geniuses To Tip The Balance In Favour Of Curfews
It Was A False Flag Operation We Swear
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/nsw-covid-19-curfews-introduced-in-lgas-of-concern/100395084
Four men were stopped in Drummoyne by police at 2:00am, and told officers they were out and about for “exercise”. NSW Police commissioner Mick Fuller said the men — each from LGAs of concern — were slapped with $17,000 worth of fines and “sent packing home”. Hours later, the NSW government announced curfews would be put in place for residents of Sydney’s 12 local government areas (LGAs) of concern from Monday.
People in Melbourne have been living under a similar curfew since Monday
Hey Guess What We Could Wait For Approval And Then Protect Actually Almost Everyone Who Wants Or ProxyWants To Be Protected Before Opening The Floodgates And …
… Probably Eliminating The Virus Because It Might Actually Reach Herd Immunity
nah why the fuck would we do that when we could Let It Rip™ and destroy life for the next generation and have ForeverCOVID™
we must have missed this yesterday so apologies
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
there’s a semimeme going around about how countries with female leaders have been doing much better this pandemic than the alternative but we guess someone has to buck the trend and besides NSW isn’t quite a country
I’m of the feeling the Gladys didn’t act because she was moving from the zero cases model to the hospitals aren’t in extreme stress model.
well yeah if you cancel elective surgery and flush out private hospitals then we guess you destress hospitals temporarily
Covid-19: Two vaccine doses are crucial for protection against delta, study finds
https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2029
The two dose regimen of the Pfizer-BioNTech covid-19 vaccine is 88% effective against symptomatic disease caused by the delta variant, while the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is 67% effective, research has found.1
Well, it would find that, it’s published in the NEJM…
The study, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, reported that for the alpha variant the two dose regimen of the Pfizer vaccine was 93.7% effective while AstraZeneca’s was 74.5% effective.
still waiting on the elasomeran results, should be good apparently
SCIENCE said:
we must have missed this yesterday so apologies
there’s a twisted irony or something in that, take it further I reckon, make him temporary premier of NSW also, do a better job
good if long read
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
we must have missed this yesterday so apologies
there’s a twisted irony or something in that, take it further I reckon, make him temporary premier of NSW also, do a better job
Shifting NSW over to WA will isolate them.
SCIENCE said:
Hey Guess What We Could Wait For Approval And Then Protect Actually Almost Everyone Who Wants Or ProxyWants To Be Protected Before Opening The Floodgates And …… Probably Eliminating The Virus Because It Might Actually Reach Herd Immunity
nah why the fuck would we do that when we could Let It Rip™ and destroy life for the next generation and have ForeverCOVID™
i’d expect to really get to herd immunity through vaccination, which will be 90%+ maybe, probably the best chance would be by not having hundreds of millions of already contagious people and covid evolving wildly
but nah massive petri dish, nearly eight billion people
get your live virus booster now
anyway we caught this
so we browsed a bit and here is a little side entertainment for yousall
Cellular landscape cross-section through a eukaryotic cell, by Evan Ingersoll & Gael McGill
The most detailed model of a human cell to date, obtained using x-ray, nuclear magnetic resonance and cryoelectron microscopy datasets. The world inside us.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/20/china-to-launch-uncrewed-cargo-ship-to-tiangong-station
China is preparing to launch an uncrewed cargo ship to its Tiangong “Heavenly palace” space station in preparation for the arrival of its second human crew this autumn.
Inside the race to scale up CO2 capture technology and hit net zero
“Negative emissions” technologies involve sucking CO₂ out of the atmosphere. They are essential to net-zero climate plans – but does anyone know how to make them work?
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2287551-inside-the-race-to-scale-up-co2-capture-technology-and-hit-net-zero/
In this article at least they acknowledge that actualised, real, negative emissions technology with self-growing solar panels were invented about 1 to 2 thousand million years ago.
while i’m still here for a moment, I note of hard fast lockdowns that the compliance weaknesses are exposed earlier, and the corrective mechanisms are able to work quicker, the feedback mechanisms
they rely on aversion, including from the possibility of longer lockdowns
Tau.Neutrino said:
An ongoing apprehension towards total lockdown in NSW has come at an enormous cost
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/covid-policy-in-nsw-proving-costly-ian-verrender-analysis/100379032Liberal unlocked experiment crashes and burns.
Anyway, 8 weeks yesterday and curfew we forgot to freshen this up so here you can have it today.
https://www.pm.gov.au/media/interview-natalie-barr-sunrise
Just what we wanted to see.
laugh-out-loud
Taxi, rideshare and passenger services are prohibited from conveying passengers to Sydney’s CBD between 9am and 3pm today (Saturday 21 August 2021), under a prohibition notice issued by NSW Police. The notice was issued to seven transport providers in response to planned unlawful protest activity at risk of seriously compromising the public’s safety. Central Metropolitan Region Commander, Assistant Commissioner Peter Thurtell, said more than 1500 officers have been deployed to disrupt, prevent and respond to any unauthorised protest activity. “The transmission of the delta strain of COVID-19 presents a clear and present threat to the community. Now is not the time to gather in groups in protest,” Assistant Commissioner Thurtell said. “This prohibition notice is just one of our strategies to prevent any unlawful mass gathering and keep our community safe. “Essential workers, or anyone that requires medical treatment, will be able to make their way to their destinations. “I’d like to acknowledge and thank the affected transport companies in advance for their compliance,” Assistant Commissioner Thurtell said.
not-so-laugh-out-loud
Victoria has recorded 61 new cases of COVID-19, including a number of cases in Shepparton already announced yesterday. The Health Department said an additional 16 cases were recorded on a rapid PCR testing platform and would be reported in tomorrow’s numbers. Of the new cases, 48 are linked to known outbreaks, and 22 were in isolation for their entire infectious period.
better watch out there or you’ll prove Gutless right, it’s too hard, just give up
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/sotrovimab-covid-drug-approved-tga/100394914
Wilcannia:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/new-covid-19-cases-in-far-west-troubling-for-health-authorities/100395342
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/sotrovimab-covid-drug-approved-tga/100394914
good to have something that helps but have to be careful it doesn’t just free up the rich bastards to say “and Let It Rip among the children who don’t die but end up with chronic health problems for the next 80 years oh wait 60 because their life expectancy will drop below that of the current rich bastards so why should we care”
we mean it’s not like they aren’t already saying that
Michael V said:
Wilcannia:
so what we’re saying is that Chairman Dan’s move to unlock the regions was unwise and they’re about to chuck a NSWuhan
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/sotrovimab-covid-drug-approved-tga/100394914
good to have something that helps but have to be careful it doesn’t just free up the rich bastards to say “and Let It Rip among the children who don’t die but end up with chronic health problems for the next 80 years oh wait 60 because their life expectancy will drop below that of the current rich bastards so why should we care”
we mean it’s not like they aren’t already saying that
Oh dear.
Deaths in Fiji are rising again, currently the world’s worst place to live.
Macedonia is back. Several moths ago, before South America took over, it was in the top few worst places.
Eswatini never really went away.
I’ve been tracking Georgia getting worse for a couple of weeks.
Sri Lanka is the new kid on the block. It’s never had a high covid death rate until now.
The nice time when the score was under 10 has gone.
Sorry about leaving Tunisia off the chart. It still has a high covid death rate too.
Covid deaths in Macedonia. Fingers crossed it never gets as bad as it used to be.
Vaccination looks like it’s working. The highest vaccination rate of the top 7 countries for Covid death rate is Fiji, with a total doses of 83% which is higher than only 60% of countries. Fiji is nowhere near the highest vaccinated country. Cuba has a higher vaccination rate and sits 8th on the Covid death rate. Oh, Cuba is wose off than North Macedonia.
Vaccine doses for countries with a high Covid death rate. (Sorry, ignore Ecuador)
Good News, Israel Is Exceptionally Bad, And Australia Is Exceptionally Good, So We Will Be Safe When We Let It Rip At 80
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Wilcannia:
so what we’re saying is that Chairman Dan’s move to unlock the regions was unwise and they’re about to chuck a NSWuhan
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/victoria-records-61-new-cases-of-covid/100396036
The ABC understands regional Victoria will go into lockdown in response to a growing number of cases emerging in Shepparton. New restrictions are set to be announced this morning, but multiple sources have told the ABC the regional lockdown has been confirmed and child care will be closed to all but essential workers.
Shepparton Mayor Kim O’Keeffe said a lockdown would prevent infections from spreading across regional Victoria. “Look, with these numbers increasing I welcome a lockdown. I think that’s the best way to address this,” she said. “As much as we all hate it, let’s do that lockdown, let’s do what we need to do and do it fast.”
all communist lackeys
Michael V said:
Wilcannia:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-20/new-covid-19-cases-in-far-west-troubling-for-health-authorities/100395342
doesn’t bother reading
It’s only “troubling”. That’s one up from “bit of a bother”.
So what’s after “troubling”? “Worrisome”?
I might wait til it’s “catastrophic”, or “on the brink of collapse”.
That’s when Gladys Binchicken might go “oh ah”…. “should take a look at that”.
BTW…… notice it’s always “on the brink” of collapse. It’s never “has collapsed”. Always “on the brink”.
brink noun
\ ˈbriŋk \
Definition of brink
1: EDGE
especially : the edge at the top of a steep place
2: a bank especially of a river
3: the point of onset : VERGE
on the brink of war
4: the threshold of danger
I’d like to find out just when i’m due for my second shot of AZ vaccine, so i tried to link my medical stuff to the myGov account.
Was going ok until it asks for ‘the date of your last visit to your GP which was billed to Medicare’.
?
How the **** would i know?
I see the doc about one every three months, when the scrips for statins and happy pills need to be renewed. About 10 mins worth, most of which we spend discussing anything other than health issues.
825 today :(
Speedy said:
825 today :(
Fuck.
SCIENCE said:
Speedy said:
825 today :(
Fuck.
I wonder who Gladys is listening to now?
captain_spalding said:
I’d like to find out just when i’m due for my second shot of AZ vaccine, so i tried to link my medical stuff to the myGov account.Was going ok until it asks for ‘the date of your last visit to your GP which was billed to Medicare’.
?
How the **** would i know?
I see the doc about one every three months, when the scrips for statins and happy pills need to be renewed. About 10 mins worth, most of which we spend discussing anything other than health issues.
You can ring the number and they will tell you the info you need.
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:
I’d like to find out just when i’m due for my second shot of AZ vaccine, so i tried to link my medical stuff to the myGov account.Was going ok until it asks for ‘the date of your last visit to your GP which was billed to Medicare’.
?
How the **** would i know?
I see the doc about one every three months, when the scrips for statins and happy pills need to be renewed. About 10 mins worth, most of which we spend discussing anything other than health issues.
You can ring the number and they will tell you the info you need.
The number. Presumably the GPs number?
Speedy said:
825 today :(
You have now beaten the Victorian daily record.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:Speedy said:
825 today :(
Fuck.
I wonder who Gladys is listening to now?
Probably some Rolling Stones.
captain_spalding said:
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:
I’d like to find out just when i’m due for my second shot of AZ vaccine, so i tried to link my medical stuff to the myGov account.Was going ok until it asks for ‘the date of your last visit to your GP which was billed to Medicare’.
?
How the **** would i know?
I see the doc about one every three months, when the scrips for statins and happy pills need to be renewed. About 10 mins worth, most of which we spend discussing anything other than health issues.
You can ring the number and they will tell you the info you need.
The number. Presumably the GPs number?
No. The gubbermint number. https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/individuals/contact-us/phone-us
Provided you have your Medicare Number, and the Medicare bank account, they will tell you the rest of the info.
We’ve done it a few time for my students/class when we do do “set up my gov” as a topic.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:Fuck.
I wonder who Gladys is listening to now?
Probably some Rolling Stones.
19th Nervous Breakdown
Don’t You Lie To Me
Good Times, Bad Times
Heart of Stone
It Must Be Hell
Losing My Touch
No Expectations
Paint It Black
Please Go Home
Sad Sad Sad
Time Waits For No-one
What A Shame
and, of course
You Can’t Always Get What You Want.
One More Shot.
Speedy said:
825 today :(
Bugger.
:(
buffy said:
Speedy said:
825 today :(
You have now beaten the Victorian daily record.
See, it was a race, after all.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:I wonder who Gladys is listening to now?
Probably some Rolling Stones.
19th Nervous Breakdown
Don’t You Lie To Me
Good Times, Bad Times
Heart of Stone
It Must Be Hell
Losing My Touch
No Expectations
Paint It Black
Please Go Home
Sad Sad Sad
Time Waits For No-one
What A Shame
and, of course
You Can’t Always Get What You Want.
One More Shot.
:)
Reporter: “If we are all in this together, why isn’t there a blanket rule across the state to reduce mobility?
Gladys Berejiklian was asked this question after announcing further restrictions on people in the 12 LGAs in the south-west of Sydney.
The Premier said the most important figure announced today was rising number of vaccinations.”
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Phew. The most important figure. Not 825 new infections – the highest ever in Australia. Not more deaths, but more vaccinations.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100394522
Michael V said:
The Premier said the most important figure announced today was rising number of vaccinations.”
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Never mind the quality, feel the width.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:I wonder who Gladys is listening to now?
Probably some Rolling Stones.
19th Nervous Breakdown
Don’t You Lie To Me
Good Times, Bad Times
Heart of Stone
It Must Be Hell
Losing My Touch
No Expectations
Paint It Black
Please Go Home
Sad Sad Sad
Time Waits For No-one
What A Shame
and, of course
You Can’t Always Get What You Want.
One More Shot.
:)
NSW’s COVID crisis reached a new low after authorities announced a record 825 new infections and Premier Gladys Berejiklian urged citizens to “stay calm” and “accept that Delta is here”.
https://giphy.com/gifs/puffingraphx-kevin-bacon-remain-calm-mass-hysteria-1qfKUnnWlaCfa0tq1d/fullscreen
sibeen said:
NSW’s COVID crisis reached a new low after authorities announced a record 825 new infections and Premier Gladys Berejiklian urged citizens to “stay calm” and “accept that Delta is here”.https://giphy.com/gifs/puffingraphx-kevin-bacon-remain-calm-mass-hysteria-1qfKUnnWlaCfa0tq1d/fullscreen
Wont anybody think of the lockdowns.
Bummer…just realized my six month routine dental appointment is next week. Or was. I suppose I’ll have to phone them up on Monday or Tuesday to see what they want to do about moving it.
On the question of whether vaccines are actually effective on keeping Covid deaths low.
Previously I looked at this using data from Uruguey, Bahrain and Seychelles, and said that I say hardly any drop off in the maximum Covid death rate with increasing vaccination rate.
That conclusion still holds – but -
If I also include the low vaccination data from Hungary, and if I replace the 7-day smoothing on Seychelles with a more realistic 28 day average, which is better because the deaths occur at irregular times because of the small (0.1 million) population. – then -
The Covid death rate does drop off with increasing vaccination rate. The solid line is the best limit on the maximum death rate at given vaccination rate excluding the Seychelles. The dashed line is the best limit on the maximum death rate at given vaccination rate excluding the Seychelles.
The following chart uses ALL the data from OurWorldInData.
mollwollfumble said:
On the question of whether vaccines are actually effective on keeping Covid deaths low.Previously I looked at this using data from Uruguey, Bahrain and Seychelles, and said that I say hardly any drop off in the maximum Covid death rate with increasing vaccination rate.
That conclusion still holds – but -
If I also include the low vaccination data from Hungary, and if I replace the 7-day smoothing on Seychelles with a more realistic 28 day average, which is better because the deaths occur at irregular times because of the small (0.1 million) population. – then -The Covid death rate does drop off with increasing vaccination rate. The solid line is the best limit on the maximum death rate at given vaccination rate excluding the Seychelles. The dashed line is the best limit on the maximum death rate at given vaccination rate excluding the Seychelles.
The following chart uses ALL the data from OurWorldInData.
> excluding
oops, including
Guardian Australia
1 hr ·
And Victoria will go into a statewide lockdown from 1pm today after recording 61 new coronavirus cases.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:I wonder who Gladys is listening to now?
Probably some Rolling Stones.
19th Nervous Breakdown
Don’t You Lie To Me
Good Times, Bad Times
Heart of Stone
It Must Be Hell
Losing My Touch
No Expectations
Paint It Black
Please Go Home
Sad Sad Sad
Time Waits For No-one
What A Shame
and, of course
You Can’t Always Get What You Want.
One More Shot.
Mother’s little helper.
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:Probably some Rolling Stones.
19th Nervous Breakdown
Don’t You Lie To Me
Good Times, Bad Times
Heart of Stone
It Must Be Hell
Losing My Touch
No Expectations
Paint It Black
Please Go Home
Sad Sad Sad
Time Waits For No-one
What A Shame
and, of course
You Can’t Always Get What You Want.
One More Shot.
Mother’s little helper.
Surely Sympathy for the Devil must get an airing.
sibeen said:
NSW’s COVID crisis reached a new low after authorities announced a record 825 new infections and Premier Gladys Berejiklian urged citizens to “stay calm” and “accept that Delta is here”.https://giphy.com/gifs/puffingraphx-kevin-bacon-remain-calm-mass-hysteria-1qfKUnnWlaCfa0tq1d/fullscreen
I got an very clear sensation of observing idiocy when the lady started speaking for the entire country, health-advise-related-social policy, the weirdest thing i’ve heard for a long time, weird in the way that I should never have heard it, not from that person, not ever, but did
Anti-lockdown protests in Sydney and Melbourne.
Grrrrrrr. Covidiots.
Michael V said:
Anti-lockdown protests in Sydney and Melbourne.Grrrrrrr. Covidiots.
I despair…
“Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine?”
Interesting article.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098
Peak Warming Man said:
“Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine?”
Interesting article.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098
Each time you’re exposed, the immune system gets a little bit stronger, and this continues until old age, when the immune system starts to fail and the infections become a problem again. “This isn’t proven, but it could be a lot cheaper and simpler to let that happen than spend the whole time immunising people,” said Prof Finn, who warns we could end up “locked into a cycle of boosting” without seeing if it was necessary. However, he said the argument in children had “already been won” as “40-50% have already been infected and most weren’t ill or particularly ill”.
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/anti-covid-lockdown-protesters-clash-with-police-in-melbourne/100396458
sarahs mum said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/anti-covid-lockdown-protesters-clash-with-police-in-melbourne/100396458
I just read that and watched the video (no sound). I’m not really clear what these people think they can achieve. Apart from a walk in the sun on a Saturday afternoon. Nothing will be changed.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/anti-covid-lockdown-protesters-clash-with-police-in-melbourne/100396458
I just read that and watched the video (no sound). I’m not really clear what these people think they can achieve. Apart from a walk in the sun on a Saturday afternoon. Nothing will be changed.
And if it’s by invitation via encrypted app, it’s preaching to the converted.
jfc
Berejiklian urged citizens to “stay calm” and “accept that Delta is here”.
buffy said:
I just read that and watched the video (no sound). I’m not really clear what these people think they can achieve. Apart from a walk in the sun on a Saturday afternoon. Nothing will be changed.
Oh, the anti-lockdownthing.
For a moment, i thought that there was a Federal election on.
SCIENCE said:
jfcBerejiklian urged citizens to “stay calm” and “accept that Delta is here”.
“Some of you (maybe a lot of you) will die. But, that’s ok, we expected that. It’s regrettable, but it’s necessary. If we don’t get back to having well-attended real estate auctions very soon, then the banks will be left with a lot of mortgages on properties that are declining in value, and the real estate people will have to go back being race-track urgers.”
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/anti-covid-lockdown-protesters-clash-with-police-in-melbourne/100396458
I just read that and watched the video (no sound). I’m not really clear what these people think they can achieve. Apart from a walk in the sun on a Saturday afternoon. Nothing will be changed.
It’s just crap. And they have that faux nationalism going on while they are actively stuffing up everything.
SCIENCE said:
jfcBerejiklian urged citizens to “stay calm” and “accept that Delta is here”.
And that pisses me off too.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100394522
The first video on the live updates, of the Melbourne people in Flinders Street – what is the foamy stuff the police are spraying?
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
jfcBerejiklian urged citizens to “stay calm” and “accept that Delta is here”.
And that pisses me off too.
remember how we used to accept that asylum seekers were here
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100394522The first video on the live updates, of the Melbourne people in Flinders Street – what is the foamy stuff the police are spraying?
saliva surely
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
jfcBerejiklian urged citizens to “stay calm” and “accept that Delta is here”.
“Some of you (maybe a lot of you) will die. But, that’s ok, we expected that. It’s regrettable, but it’s necessary. If we don’t get back to having well-attended real estate auctions very soon, then the banks will be left with a lot of mortgages on properties that are declining in value, and the real estate people will have to go back being race-track urgers.”
Tassie’s premiers suggested that our boiling realestate market is rising in temperature with mainlanders looking for a Tasmanian address as a primary residence. Like a get out of jail card.
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100394522The first video on the live updates, of the Melbourne people in Flinders Street – what is the foamy stuff the police are spraying?
saliva surely
Mr buffy tells me it’s a pepper foam. Because the aerosol drifts too much and you get it back at you too easily.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100394522The first video on the live updates, of the Melbourne people in Flinders Street – what is the foamy stuff the police are spraying?
It’s pepper spray.
Early on in the video, you can see a smoke flare that the police set off to indicate the wind direction before they began squirting.
It’s not hard to make your own pepper spray, or to get it into a pressurised can (a tyre valve is the key to it).
One day, these anti-lockdown bunnies will twig to that, and the thing about homemade stuff is that there’s no-one regulating how strong you make it.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100394522The first video on the live updates, of the Melbourne people in Flinders Street – what is the foamy stuff the police are spraying?
It’s pepper spray.
Early on in the video, you can see a smoke flare that the police set off to indicate the wind direction before they began squirting.
It’s not hard to make your own pepper spray, or to get it into a pressurised can (a tyre valve is the key to it).
One day, these anti-lockdown bunnies will twig to that, and the thing about homemade stuff is that there’s no-one regulating how strong you make it.
I don’t think the police set off the flare…it lobbed over to them from the protestors. A saving for us there, we didn’t have to pay for one! I think I saw about three or four flares thrown at the police.
ABC News:
Police outnumber protesters at Sydney anti-lockdown rally.
I knew a bloke who’d been a copper when the Beatles arrived in Sydney.
He said that there was more plods there than fans, and it was belting down rain and blowing a gale.
After about an hour, he got fed up with standing around in a howling rainstorm, and thought ‘bugger this, there’s so many cops here, they won’‘t notice one less, i’m off home’.
And he went, and no-one did notice.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:
Police outnumber protesters at Sydney anti-lockdown rally.
I knew a bloke who’d been a copper when the Beatles arrived in Sydney.
He said that there was more plods there than fans, and it was belting down rain and blowing a gale.
After about an hour, he got fed up with standing around in a howling rainstorm, and thought ‘bugger this, there’s so many cops here, they won’‘t notice one less, i’m off home’.
And he went, and no-one did notice.
maybe like with the Capitol the police were part of the protest
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100394522
The first video on the live updates, of the Melbourne people in Flinders Street – what is the foamy stuff the police are spraying?
saliva surely
Mr buffy tells me it’s a pepper foam. Because the aerosol drifts too much and you get it back at you too easily.
if this is true then given SARS-CoV-2 is airborne-aerosol maybe all we need to do is have a pepper foam pumping machine on every street corner and anyone with enough PPE to take it on will also have enough protection to be safe from COVID-19 when they go out
only 2% joking
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/new-sars-cov-2-variants-have-changed-pandemic-what-will-virus-do-next
:)
From the ABC live updates blog:
‘Epic fail’: Protesters disheartened by poor turnout in Sydney
As arrests were being made in Sydney, those using the encrypted messaging apps which organised the protests were expressing their frustration.
One person called it an “epic fail” while another asked where the protest organisers were.
“Where are our leaders?!” one Sydney user wrote into the group.
“Where the f*** are people who promised to lead it?”
buffy said:
“Where are our leaders?!” one Sydney user wrote into the group.
“Where the f*** are people who promised to lead it?”
so naïve.
buffy said:
:)From the ABC live updates blog:
‘Epic fail’: Protesters disheartened by poor turnout in Sydney
As arrests were being made in Sydney, those using the encrypted messaging apps which organised the protests were expressing their frustration.
One person called it an “epic fail” while another asked where the protest organisers were.
“Where are our leaders?!” one Sydney user wrote into the group.
“Where the f*** are people who promised to lead it?”
In the Ukraine?
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
“Where are our leaders?!” one Sydney user wrote into the group.
“Where the f*** are people who promised to lead it?”
so naïve.
us or them
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
“Where are our leaders?!” one Sydney user wrote into the group.
“Where the f*** are people who promised to lead it?”
so naïve.
us or them
everybody who isn’t me!!!
sarahs mum said:
buffy said::)From the ABC live updates blog:
‘Epic fail’: Protesters disheartened by poor turnout in Sydney
As arrests were being made in Sydney, those using the encrypted messaging apps which organised the protests were expressing their frustration.
One person called it an “epic fail” while another asked where the protest organisers were.
“Where are our leaders?!” one Sydney user wrote into the group.
“Where the f*** are people who promised to lead it?”
In the Ukraine?
In gaol, actually. Gaoled yesterday.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said::)From the ABC live updates blog:
‘Epic fail’: Protesters disheartened by poor turnout in Sydney
As arrests were being made in Sydney, those using the encrypted messaging apps which organised the protests were expressing their frustration.
One person called it an “epic fail” while another asked where the protest organisers were.
“Where are our leaders?!” one Sydney user wrote into the group.
“Where the f*** are people who promised to lead it?”
In the Ukraine?
In gaol, actually. Gaoled yesterday.
I suppose that is preferable.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:In the Ukraine?
In gaol, actually. Gaoled yesterday.
I suppose that is preferable.
>>The Sydney protest lost momentum after one of its key organisers, Anthony Khallouf, was jailed yesterday for breaching public health orders.
Police said the Victorian man had travelled from Queensland to NSW without a reasonable excuse, in breach of COVID-19 public health orders.
Khallouf was yesterday sentenced to eight months prison, with a non-parole period of three months, after pleading guilty to four counts of not complying with a direction and one count each of encouraging the commission of a crime and making false representations resulting in a police investigation.
The 29-year-old was a key figure behind a July rally in Sydney that attracted thousands of anti-lockdown demonstrators.<<
from here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/sydney-anti-lockdown-protests-dispersed-by-nsw-police/100396384
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:In gaol, actually. Gaoled yesterday.
I suppose that is preferable.
>>The Sydney protest lost momentum after one of its key organisers, Anthony Khallouf, was jailed yesterday for breaching public health orders.
Police said the Victorian man had travelled from Queensland to NSW without a reasonable excuse, in breach of COVID-19 public health orders.
Khallouf was yesterday sentenced to eight months prison, with a non-parole period of three months, after pleading guilty to four counts of not complying with a direction and one count each of encouraging the commission of a crime and making false representations resulting in a police investigation.
The 29-year-old was a key figure behind a July rally in Sydney that attracted thousands of anti-lockdown demonstrators.<<
from here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/sydney-anti-lockdown-protests-dispersed-by-nsw-police/100396384
ah. I had missed that tidbit. ta.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:I suppose that is preferable.
>>The Sydney protest lost momentum after one of its key organisers, Anthony Khallouf, was jailed yesterday for breaching public health orders.
Police said the Victorian man had travelled from Queensland to NSW without a reasonable excuse, in breach of COVID-19 public health orders.
Khallouf was yesterday sentenced to eight months prison, with a non-parole period of three months, after pleading guilty to four counts of not complying with a direction and one count each of encouraging the commission of a crime and making false representations resulting in a police investigation.
The 29-year-old was a key figure behind a July rally in Sydney that attracted thousands of anti-lockdown demonstrators.<<
from here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/sydney-anti-lockdown-protests-dispersed-by-nsw-police/100396384
ah. I had missed that tidbit. ta.
So did they apparently.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:I suppose that is preferable.
>>The Sydney protest lost momentum after one of its key organisers, Anthony Khallouf, was jailed yesterday for breaching public health orders.
Police said the Victorian man had travelled from Queensland to NSW without a reasonable excuse, in breach of COVID-19 public health orders.
Khallouf was yesterday sentenced to eight months prison, with a non-parole period of three months, after pleading guilty to four counts of not complying with a direction and one count each of encouraging the commission of a crime and making false representations resulting in a police investigation.
The 29-year-old was a key figure behind a July rally in Sydney that attracted thousands of anti-lockdown demonstrators.<<
from here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/sydney-anti-lockdown-protests-dispersed-by-nsw-police/100396384
ah. I had missed that tidbit. ta.
You would think those involved would be up to date on it though…
:)
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
>>The Sydney protest lost momentum after one of its key organisers, Anthony Khallouf, was jailed yesterday for breaching public health orders.
Police said the Victorian man had travelled from Queensland to NSW without a reasonable excuse, in breach of COVID-19 public health orders.
Khallouf was yesterday sentenced to eight months prison, with a non-parole period of three months, after pleading guilty to four counts of not complying with a direction and one count each of encouraging the commission of a crime and making false representations resulting in a police investigation.
The 29-year-old was a key figure behind a July rally in Sydney that attracted thousands of anti-lockdown demonstrators.<<
from here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/sydney-anti-lockdown-protests-dispersed-by-nsw-police/100396384
ah. I had missed that tidbit. ta.
You would think those involved would be up to date on it though…
:)
how, did the police give him access to his account to send some more instructions through
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
ah. I had missed that tidbit. ta.
You would think those involved would be up to date on it though…
:)
how, did the police give him access to his account to send some more instructions through
Have there been any numbers published on cases directly linked to the previous protest?
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
ah. I had missed that tidbit. ta.
You would think those involved would be up to date on it though…
:)
how, did the police give him access to his account to send some more instructions through
They are a network, and he is not the only organizer. I would have thought they would all know and be up in arms about it.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
You would think those involved would be up to date on it though…
:)
how, did the police give him access to his account to send some more instructions through
Have there been any numbers published on cases directly linked to the previous protest?
Gutless said something (actually sensible) about it earlier but we can’t find the link, said those were the kinds of people most unlikely to admit to having been protesting or indeed turn up and get tested, so it would be quite difficult to link cases directly to protests.
buffy said:
he is not the only organizer
how do you know this
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
how, did the police give him access to his account to send some more instructions through
Have there been any numbers published on cases directly linked to the previous protest?
Gutless said something (actually sensible) about it earlier but we can’t find the link, said those were the kinds of people most unlikely to admit to having been protesting or indeed turn up and get tested, so it would be quite difficult to link cases directly to protests.
OK.
Fair point.
For Gladys
I suppose.
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
saliva surely
Mr buffy tells me it’s a pepper foam. Because the aerosol drifts too much and you get it back at you too easily.
if this is true then given SARS-CoV-2 is airborne-aerosol maybe all we need to do is have a pepper foam pumping machine on every street corner and anyone with enough PPE to take it on will also have enough protection to be safe from COVID-19 when they go out
only 2% joking
speaking of that kind of thing consider
https://www.dpie.nsw.gov.au/air-quality/air-quality-concentration-data-updated-hourly
another genius solution to inspire lockdown and deter protesters, simple, smoke them out in
Bargepoles are essential items
dv said:
Bargepoles are essential items
What has he been saying lately?
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bargepoles are essential items
What has he been saying lately?
‘Nuff said.
From Google:
Jeff Kennett: Dictator Dan answers to no one and now he must go
Amusing how all these nasties calling Dan a Dictator are happy to dance to any tune nominated by Reichsführer Rupert.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bargepoles are essential items
What has he been saying lately?
‘Nuff said.
From Google:
Jeff Kennett: Dictator Dan answers to no one and now he must go
He must go?
Did he give out some ridiculously expensive watches or something?
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bargepoles are essential items
What has he been saying lately?
‘Nuff said.
From Google:
Jeff Kennett: Dictator Dan answers to no one and now he must go
Isn’t that what you do as premier Jeff?
Bubblecar said:
Amusing how all these nasties calling Dan a Dictator are happy to dance to any tune nominated by Reichsführer Rupert.
It seems to be the sort of thing directed at every state premier over here that serves more than one term. People are saying the same thing about Mark McGowan (ALP); but they also called Colin Barnett (Lib) before him “The Emperor”. Never been quite able to work that one out.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Amusing how all these nasties calling Dan a Dictator are happy to dance to any tune nominated by Reichsführer Rupert.
It seems to be the sort of thing directed at every state premier over here that serves more than one term. People are saying the same thing about Mark McGowan (ALP); but they also called Colin Barnett (Lib) before him “The Emperor”. Never been quite able to work that one out.
Gutwein is tracking okay for a Lib.
Dad Minus One
And here we go again.
Anti lockdown protests in Sydney and Melbourne on a day when 825 new cases have been declared in NSW and in Victoria numbers are dramatically escalating to the point of losing control.
Guess what protesters?
It’s. your. fault.
You people protesting the fact that you’re being asked to put aside your narcissistic personality traits and actually do your part for the community.
And yet here you are doing the one thing your community desperately needs you not to do.
Spread the virus.
You’re selfish, pathetic and completely unable to recognise the privileged existence you lead.
“WAKE UP SHEEP – I’M FIGHTING FOR MY FREEDOM”
I hear you chanting ignorantly.
You wanna talk freedom?
How about seeing Afghani natives falling to their deaths from the side of military aircraft because they’re so terrified of the oppressive regime incoming?
How about Parents literally throwing their babies over barbed wire fences to British soldiers in an attempt to give them a life less oppressed?
Literally, people living in such a cruel environment that they would rather take their chance on their own children being raised by strangers in a foreign country, than being forced to live under Taliban control.
What about young boys and their teachers being forced to say goodbye to their female students because the incoming regime won’t tolerate young girls getting an education
Females are less than dirt, any form of sexual identity outside of the regime’s dictated norm is punishable by death, religious freedom is unheard of and where petty crime can see you have your hands chopped off.
And yet you’ve got the audacity to kick and scream for what?
Because you’re being asked to stay inside IN THE COMFORT of your own home?
You’re being asked to wear a piece of cloth that covers your face if you have to go outside?
You’re being encouraged (not forced, encouraged) to receive lifesaving preventative medicine that could potentially save your life and the lives of those around you?
How fucking pathetic are you?
Get some perspective, get the fuck over yourself and stop bringing this country to its knees.
Bogsnorkler said:
Dad Minus OneAnd here we go again.
Anti lockdown protests in Sydney and Melbourne on a day when 825 new cases have been declared in NSW and in Victoria numbers are dramatically escalating to the point of losing control.
Guess what protesters?It’s. your. fault.
You people protesting the fact that you’re being asked to put aside your narcissistic personality traits and actually do your part for the community.
And yet here you are doing the one thing your community desperately needs you not to do.
Spread the virus.You’re selfish, pathetic and completely unable to recognise the privileged existence you lead.
“WAKE UP SHEEP – I’M FIGHTING FOR MY FREEDOM”
I hear you chanting ignorantly.You wanna talk freedom?
How about seeing Afghani natives falling to their deaths from the side of military aircraft because they’re so terrified of the oppressive regime incoming?
How about Parents literally throwing their babies over barbed wire fences to British soldiers in an attempt to give them a life less oppressed?
Literally, people living in such a cruel environment that they would rather take their chance on their own children being raised by strangers in a foreign country, than being forced to live under Taliban control.
What about young boys and their teachers being forced to say goodbye to their female students because the incoming regime won’t tolerate young girls getting an education
Females are less than dirt, any form of sexual identity outside of the regime’s dictated norm is punishable by death, religious freedom is unheard of and where petty crime can see you have your hands chopped off.
And yet you’ve got the audacity to kick and scream for what?Because you’re being asked to stay inside IN THE COMFORT of your own home?
You’re being asked to wear a piece of cloth that covers your face if you have to go outside?
You’re being encouraged (not forced, encouraged) to receive lifesaving preventative medicine that could potentially save your life and the lives of those around you?
How fucking pathetic are you?
Get some perspective, get the fuck over yourself and stop bringing this country to its knees.
I wholeheartedly agree.
SCIENCE said:
all depends what spread in the community means and reopens, probably depends what prepared means also
doubt the practical reality of that is swept away by the slick assumptions in the ways of the words I saw strung together
Bogsnorkler said:
Get some perspective, get the fuck over yourself and stop bringing this country to its knees.
I find it difficult to credit that most of these people honestly believe in the premises they spout, and i wonder about why they’re really doing it.
Do they think it’s a good way to get girls interested in them or something?
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Dad Minus OneAnd here we go again.
Anti lockdown protests in Sydney and Melbourne on a day when 825 new cases have been declared in NSW and in Victoria numbers are dramatically escalating to the point of losing control.
Guess what protesters?It’s. your. fault.
You people protesting the fact that you’re being asked to put aside your narcissistic personality traits and actually do your part for the community.
And yet here you are doing the one thing your community desperately needs you not to do.
Spread the virus.You’re selfish, pathetic and completely unable to recognise the privileged existence you lead.
“WAKE UP SHEEP – I’M FIGHTING FOR MY FREEDOM”
I hear you chanting ignorantly.You wanna talk freedom?
How about seeing Afghani natives falling to their deaths from the side of military aircraft because they’re so terrified of the oppressive regime incoming?
How about Parents literally throwing their babies over barbed wire fences to British soldiers in an attempt to give them a life less oppressed?
Literally, people living in such a cruel environment that they would rather take their chance on their own children being raised by strangers in a foreign country, than being forced to live under Taliban control.
What about young boys and their teachers being forced to say goodbye to their female students because the incoming regime won’t tolerate young girls getting an education
Females are less than dirt, any form of sexual identity outside of the regime’s dictated norm is punishable by death, religious freedom is unheard of and where petty crime can see you have your hands chopped off.
And yet you’ve got the audacity to kick and scream for what?Because you’re being asked to stay inside IN THE COMFORT of your own home?
You’re being asked to wear a piece of cloth that covers your face if you have to go outside?
You’re being encouraged (not forced, encouraged) to receive lifesaving preventative medicine that could potentially save your life and the lives of those around you?
How fucking pathetic are you?
Get some perspective, get the fuck over yourself and stop bringing this country to its knees.
I wholeheartedly agree.
I’m sure the despicables will read that and see the error of their ways.
Bogsnorkler said:
Dad Minus OneAnd here we go again.
Anti lockdown protests in Sydney and Melbourne on a day when 825 new cases have been declared in NSW and in Victoria numbers are dramatically escalating to the point of losing control.
Guess what protesters?It’s. your. fault.
You people protesting the fact that you’re being asked to put aside your narcissistic personality traits and actually do your part for the community.
And yet here you are doing the one thing your community desperately needs you not to do.
Spread the virus.You’re selfish, pathetic and completely unable to recognise the privileged existence you lead.
“WAKE UP SHEEP – I’M FIGHTING FOR MY FREEDOM”
I hear you chanting ignorantly.You wanna talk freedom?
How about seeing Afghani natives falling to their deaths from the side of military aircraft because they’re so terrified of the oppressive regime incoming?
How about Parents literally throwing their babies over barbed wire fences to British soldiers in an attempt to give them a life less oppressed?
Literally, people living in such a cruel environment that they would rather take their chance on their own children being raised by strangers in a foreign country, than being forced to live under Taliban control.
What about young boys and their teachers being forced to say goodbye to their female students because the incoming regime won’t tolerate young girls getting an education
Females are less than dirt, any form of sexual identity outside of the regime’s dictated norm is punishable by death, religious freedom is unheard of and where petty crime can see you have your hands chopped off.
And yet you’ve got the audacity to kick and scream for what?Because you’re being asked to stay inside IN THE COMFORT of your own home?
You’re being asked to wear a piece of cloth that covers your face if you have to go outside?
You’re being encouraged (not forced, encouraged) to receive lifesaving preventative medicine that could potentially save your life and the lives of those around you?
How fucking pathetic are you?
Get some perspective, get the fuck over yourself and stop bringing this country to its knees.
I think I can guarantee it, Mr Norkler of Bogs, that not one of them will read that.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Dad Minus OneAnd here we go again.
Anti lockdown protests in Sydney and Melbourne on a day when 825 new cases have been declared in NSW and in Victoria numbers are dramatically escalating to the point of losing control.
Guess what protesters?It’s. your. fault.
You people protesting the fact that you’re being asked to put aside your narcissistic personality traits and actually do your part for the community.
And yet here you are doing the one thing your community desperately needs you not to do.
Spread the virus.You’re selfish, pathetic and completely unable to recognise the privileged existence you lead.
“WAKE UP SHEEP – I’M FIGHTING FOR MY FREEDOM”
I hear you chanting ignorantly.You wanna talk freedom?
How about seeing Afghani natives falling to their deaths from the side of military aircraft because they’re so terrified of the oppressive regime incoming?
How about Parents literally throwing their babies over barbed wire fences to British soldiers in an attempt to give them a life less oppressed?
Literally, people living in such a cruel environment that they would rather take their chance on their own children being raised by strangers in a foreign country, than being forced to live under Taliban control.
What about young boys and their teachers being forced to say goodbye to their female students because the incoming regime won’t tolerate young girls getting an education
Females are less than dirt, any form of sexual identity outside of the regime’s dictated norm is punishable by death, religious freedom is unheard of and where petty crime can see you have your hands chopped off.
And yet you’ve got the audacity to kick and scream for what?Because you’re being asked to stay inside IN THE COMFORT of your own home?
You’re being asked to wear a piece of cloth that covers your face if you have to go outside?
You’re being encouraged (not forced, encouraged) to receive lifesaving preventative medicine that could potentially save your life and the lives of those around you?
How fucking pathetic are you?
Get some perspective, get the fuck over yourself and stop bringing this country to its knees.
I wholeheartedly agree.
I’m sure the despicables will read that and see the error of their ways.
Unlikely.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:I wholeheartedly agree.
I’m sure the despicables will read that and see the error of their ways.
Unlikely.
who knows though? even if just one does and change their mind isn’t that worth it?
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:I wholeheartedly agree.
I’m sure the despicables will read that and see the error of their ways.
Unlikely.
I thought about sending it to Margaret. She thinks that her father fought in WW2 for her freedom to be a dick.Like he was William Wallace and it Ww2 was all woady. Not only is this myth but it is fairy story myth.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’m sure the despicables will read that and see the error of their ways.
Unlikely.
who knows though? even if just one does and change their mind isn’t that worth it?
Depends how many read it and become more entrenched and more aggressive.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:Unlikely.
who knows though? even if just one does and change their mind isn’t that worth it?
Depends how many read it and become more entrenched and more aggressive.
nah. If it saves one then good.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’m sure the despicables will read that and see the error of their ways.
Unlikely.
I thought about sending it to Margaret. She thinks that her father fought in WW2 for her freedom to be a dick.Like he was William Wallace and it Ww2 was all woady. Not only is this myth but it is fairy story myth.
I used to know a lot of WW2 veterans.
They may have fought for the right of people to be dicks, but they definitely fought for the right of other people to point out that those people are being dicks, whether they be lockdown protestors, politicians, or ‘pundits’ e.g. Alan Jones.
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:who knows though? even if just one does and change their mind isn’t that worth it?
Depends how many read it and become more entrenched and more aggressive.
nah. If it saves one then good.
As i say, i have my doubts about whether they’re true believers to start with, so it’s unlikely to dissuade someone who is only part of the movement for reasons of some personal convenience.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’m sure the despicables will read that and see the error of their ways.
Unlikely.
who knows though? even if just one does and change their mind isn’t that worth it?
Sure.
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Depends how many read it and become more entrenched and more aggressive.
nah. If it saves one then good.
As i say, i have my doubts about whether they’re true believers to start with, so it’s unlikely to dissuade someone who is only part of the movement for reasons of some personal convenience.
I never thought i’d ever accuse you of having a rose-coloured view of your fellow man? :-) Seriously a small minority of humanity is indeed bat-shit crazy.
Hey…
…anyone here remember ‘swine flu’ from some years back?
It was a big worry at the time.
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:nah. If it saves one then good.
As i say, i have my doubts about whether they’re true believers to start with, so it’s unlikely to dissuade someone who is only part of the movement for reasons of some personal convenience.
I never thought i’d ever accuse you of having a rose-coloured view of your fellow man? :-) Seriously a small minority of humanity is indeed bat-shit crazy.
Oh, yeah, i don’t doubt for a second that there’s a hard core of true nutters, but i suspect that at least some, perhaps many, of them are just jumping on the bandwagon, and it makes me wonder why.
captain_spalding said:
Hey……anyone here remember ‘swine flu’ from some years back?
It was a big worry at the time.
And we were all gunna go mad with cow disease.
captain_spalding said:
Hey……anyone here remember ‘swine flu’ from some years back?
It was a big worry at the time.
I got it as was pretty crook for a while.
The coughing caused my hernia to open up and allow intestines to pop out. Which started to be quite annoying. Although I did figure out quickly how to re-insert the intestine.
captain_spalding said:
Hey……anyone here remember ‘swine flu’ from some years back?
It was a big worry at the time.
and as it was it turned out to be pretty mild.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:Unlikely.
I thought about sending it to Margaret. She thinks that her father fought in WW2 for her freedom to be a dick.Like he was William Wallace and it Ww2 was all woady. Not only is this myth but it is fairy story myth.
I used to know a lot of WW2 veterans.
They may have fought for the right of people to be dicks, but they definitely fought for the right of other people to point out that those people are being dicks, whether they be lockdown protestors, politicians, or ‘pundits’ e.g. Alan Jones.
My father would yell at her ‘Don’t be dick or I will knock your block off!’ And you would hear him across the valley because he was a drum Major before he was a capt in the Engineers.
captain_spalding said:
Hey……anyone here remember ‘swine flu’ from some years back?
It was a big worry at the time.
I was more afeared of AIDS in the early part, when little was known and Mr buffy got covered in HIV positive blood at a car accident. The risk of infection was small, but the consequence was fairly certain death.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2013/03/02/has-the-swine-flu-disappeared/
2013 article.
and Y2K bug…
Bogsnorkler said:
and Y2K bug…
Now that was a fizzer.
Bogsnorkler said:
captain_spalding said:
Hey……anyone here remember ‘swine flu’ from some years back?
It was a big worry at the time.
and as it was it turned out to be pretty mild.
compared to the bat>pangolin version.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
and Y2K bug…
Now that was a fizzer.
To be fair, that was a fizzer because the danger was recognised several years before 2000, and people (including me) were employed to mitigate or even obviate the effects.
btm said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
and Y2K bug…
Now that was a fizzer.
To be fair, that was a fizzer because the danger was recognised several years before 2000, and people (including me) were employed to mitigate or even obviate the effects.
They had to pay protection money to Big Computer.
captain_spalding said:
Hey……anyone here remember ‘swine flu’ from some years back?
It was a big worry at the time.
The H1N1 swine flue or pre 2009?
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
and Y2K bug…
Now that was a fizzer.
Only because stuff was done about it.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Hey……anyone here remember ‘swine flu’ from some years back?
It was a big worry at the time.
I got it as was pretty crook for a while.
The coughing caused my hernia to open up and allow intestines to pop out. Which started to be quite annoying. Although I did figure out quickly how to re-insert the intestine.
I can understand how you could have developed a hernia, trudging miles up mountains to get samples, standing up 44 gallon drums of fuel at the camp etc etc but Bubblecar, how the fuck?
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Hey……anyone here remember ‘swine flu’ from some years back?
It was a big worry at the time.
I got it as was pretty crook for a while.
The coughing caused my hernia to open up and allow intestines to pop out. Which started to be quite annoying. Although I did figure out quickly how to re-insert the intestine.
I can understand how you could have developed a hernia, trudging miles up mountains to get samples, standing up 44 gallon drums of fuel at the camp etc etc but Bubblecar, how the fuck?
lifting vats of hen stew off the stove?
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
and Y2K bug…
Now that was a fizzer.
Only because stuff was done about it.
We’ll never know…
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:I got it as was pretty crook for a while.
The coughing caused my hernia to open up and allow intestines to pop out. Which started to be quite annoying. Although I did figure out quickly how to re-insert the intestine.
I can understand how you could have developed a hernia, trudging miles up mountains to get samples, standing up 44 gallon drums of fuel at the camp etc etc but Bubblecar, how the fuck?
lifting vats of hen stew off the stove?
punching out a recalcitrant turd?
Bogsnorkler said:
what, reckon they’ll read even that ¿
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:
Hey…
…anyone here remember ‘swine flu’ from some years back?
It was a big worry at the time.
And we were all gunna go mad with cow disease.
I was more afeared of AIDS in the early part, when little was known and Mr buffy got covered in HIV positive blood at a car accident. The risk of infection was small, but the consequence was fairly certain death.
and Y2K bug…
Now that was a fizzer.
Only because stuff was done about it.
Aha so we all reckon this is all the preventative medicine alarmists’ faults for crying Canis lupus hey ¿
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:
what, reckon they’ll read even that ¿
I would if were them.
apparently booster shots every 4 months might work
interesting consequences
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:
what, reckon they’ll read even that ¿
fixation perhaps, fixated on opening up, fixated on opening up in a hurry, fixated on letting covid go wild
I should consult the chief unfixater
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Hey……anyone here remember ‘swine flu’ from some years back?
It was a big worry at the time.
I got it as was pretty crook for a while.
The coughing caused my hernia to open up and allow intestines to pop out. Which started to be quite annoying. Although I did figure out quickly how to re-insert the intestine.
I can understand how you could have developed a hernia, trudging miles up mountains to get samples, standing up 44 gallon drums of fuel at the camp etc etc but Bubblecar, how the fuck?
LOLOL
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:I got it as was pretty crook for a while.
The coughing caused my hernia to open up and allow intestines to pop out. Which started to be quite annoying. Although I did figure out quickly how to re-insert the intestine.
I can understand how you could have developed a hernia, trudging miles up mountains to get samples, standing up 44 gallon drums of fuel at the camp etc etc but Bubblecar, how the fuck?
LOLOL
I got one of my 4 hernias 10 pin bowling & another from lifting Mz Tambs luggage onto a train overhead rack.
21 cases in Shepparton.
Witty Rejoinder said:
21 cases in Shepparton.
fuck.
QLD: No new COVID cases.
Yay!
:)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100396724
Michael V said:
QLD: No new COVID cases.Yay!
:)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100396724
dont worry im sure one of us will be up there soon to fuck QLDs shit up.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Michael V said:
QLD: No new COVID cases.
Yay!
:)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100396724
dont worry im sure one of us will be up there soon to fuck QLDs shit up.
we thought lockdown don’t work
roughbarked said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
21 cases in Shepparton.
fuck.
seems to be the B.1.617.2 pattern these days doe’n‘it, let up for just a moment and BOOM one case becomes ~20, Ken Behrens, Shepparton, Ardernistan, Broken Record Hill, …
late updates from yesterday confirm that malicious actors are driving large part of pandemic spread
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/nsw-records-825-covid-cases-three-deaths/100396208
and we don’t mean just the people in charge, but their secret plausibly deniable agents as well
Posted 23h ago, updated 11h ago
NSW deputy chief health officer Marianne Gale said 16 people who attended the Maroubra gathering had tested positive for COVID-19, and many more were expected. “Contact tracing and further testing is under way and I’d like to particularly ask residents of Maroubra, Malabar and the Matraville area to come forward for testing and isolate should you have even the mildest of symptoms,” she said. The Premier said authorities were “shocked” to learn a majority of the attendees at the illegal party at Maroubra had come from one of the 12 LGAs of concern. Mr Hazzard said rulebreakers were “ransoming our future”. “I am hearing that could be up to about 60 people who attended the Maroubra party,” he said.
“Another funeral that occurred in western NSW, I am hearing that they could have been up to between 350 to 500 people at the funeral.”
The Health Minister singled out a Sydney man as an example of being the “worst of the worst”. On Friday night, chief health officer Kerry Chant had personally signed a public health warning naming and shaming 27-year-old Anthony Karam as a health risk. Police allege Mr Karam tested positive for COVID-19 but has refused to isolate and have issued a warrant for his arrest. Mr Hazzard said the man had reportedly communicated he didn’t care whether he spread the virus.
disclaimer: we have no evidence these murderers are being paid by states of influence
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/myanmar-covid-19-deaths-australian-diaspora-coup/100394476
The COVID-19 situation is so dire in the country that late last month, Britain warned the UN Security Council that half of Myanmar’s 54 million people could be infected with COVID-19 in a matter of weeks.
f’k we d’n‘o’, is this the Britain that wants 54 million of its own people infected with COVID-19 in a matter of Freedom ¿ like what’s the warning
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
Michael V said:
QLD: No new COVID cases.Yay!
:)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100396724
dont worry im sure one of us will be up there soon to fuck QLDs shit up.
Keep your poxy arses in NSW!
Your ABC Say
Foodbank Spreading COVID-19
Correlation Might Not Be Causation But Foodbank Came Before COVID-19
NSW: 830 new COVID cases, 3 deaths.
:(
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100396724
because sheeple
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:Yet Another Series Of Data Confirming That 100% Efficacy Against Death Means The Case Fatality Rate Decreased By Two Thirds
pulled the above from some threads back but we get to explain it now
as you can see it really does appear that vaccine reduces chance of catching disease to 1/3, and chance of getting super sick (which we’ll conflate with dying) from disease to 1/9, approximately
these fellas reckon factor 3.3 each step
SCIENCE said:
because sheeple
Give them Lucijet. They won’t travel outside their LGA.
no test, no case
ah fuck
poikilotherm said:
ah fuck
It has to be done.
What’s the point in selling off national parks to your mates to build resorts in if no-one’s allowed to go tothem?
poikilotherm said:
ah fuck
Hey, NSW Liberals, wanna try that experiment again?
I think they’re trying for…… herd immunity.
Not sure.
Tau.Neutrino said:
poikilotherm said:
ah fuck
Hey, NSW Liberals, wanna try that experiment again?
I think they’re trying for…… herd immunity.
Not sure.
Immunity for what remains of the herd afterwards.
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
poikilotherm said:
ah fuck
Hey, NSW Liberals, wanna try that experiment again?
I think they’re trying for…… herd immunity.
Not sure.
Immunity for what remains of the herd afterwards.
Dan did show them how to use red and green.
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
poikilotherm said:
ah fuck
Hey, NSW Liberals, wanna try that experiment again?
I think they’re trying for…… herd immunity.
Not sure.
Immunity for what remains of the herd afterwards.
We’ve been in need of herd size reduction for quite some time now.
poikilotherm said:
ah fuck
6 cases here in the Styx.
poikilotherm said:
poikilotherm said:
ah fuck
6 cases here in the Styx.
Bugger.
:(
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
poikilotherm said:
ah fuck
6 cases here in the Styx.
Bugger.
:(
Orange?
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:6 cases here in the Styx.
Bugger.
:(
Orange?
Yea.
A group of people are trying to push across the border between Queensland and New South Wales in Tweed Heads. Police are on the scene to try to control things.
In this area, the “border” is basically a few road blocks splitting one side of the street from the other. There looks to be a few hundred people there.
An invasion.
https://www.sciencealert.com/mounting-evidence-suggests-many-covid-19-long-haulers-are-co-infected-with-epstein-barr
sibeen said:
An invasion.
which state has got the F-35s?
sibeen said:
A group of people are trying to push across the border between Queensland and New South Wales in Tweed Heads. Police are on the scene to try to control things.In this area, the “border” is basically a few road blocks splitting one side of the street from the other. There looks to be a few hundred people there.
An invasion.
called it!
Michael V said:
https://www.sciencealert.com/mounting-evidence-suggests-many-covid-19-long-haulers-are-co-infected-with-epstein-barr
Great reactivating brain fog Virus.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:An invasion.
which state has got the F-35s?
Spray them with brain fog, they might go away.
Handy stuff when you need it brain fog.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sibeen said:
A group of people are trying to push across the border between Queensland and New South Wales in Tweed Heads. Police are on the scene to try to control things.In this area, the “border” is basically a few road blocks splitting one side of the street from the other. There looks to be a few hundred people there.
An invasion.
called it!
Load up, load up, the rubber bullets…
Bogsnorkler said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sibeen said:
A group of people are trying to push across the border between Queensland and New South Wales in Tweed Heads. Police are on the scene to try to control things.In this area, the “border” is basically a few road blocks splitting one side of the street from the other. There looks to be a few hundred people there.
An invasion.
called it!
Load up, load up, the rubber bullets…
They can play that song while they do the flashy thing.
sibeen said:
A group of people are trying to push across the border between Queensland and New South Wales in Tweed Heads. Police are on the scene to try to control things.In this area, the “border” is basically a few road blocks splitting one side of the street from the other. There looks to be a few hundred people there.
An invasion.
Covidiots. The lot of them.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:An invasion.
which state has got the F-35s?
NSW has a few
Why cant these people get organised?
World wide pandemic in its second year.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Why cant these people get organised?World wide pandemic in its second year.
I guess things will change,
people will live closer to loved ones, live closer to work etc
Free roaming nomadic people will have to rethink their lifestyle.
sibeen said:
A group of people are trying to push across the border between Queensland and New South Wales in Tweed Heads. Police are on the scene to try to control things.In this area, the “border” is basically a few road blocks splitting one side of the street from the other. There looks to be a few hundred people there.
An invasion.
I read that and couldn’t work out if it’s NSWers wanting in to Qld or Qlders wanting in to NSW.
buffy said:
sibeen said:
A group of people are trying to push across the border between Queensland and New South Wales in Tweed Heads. Police are on the scene to try to control things.In this area, the “border” is basically a few road blocks splitting one side of the street from the other. There looks to be a few hundred people there.
An invasion.
I read that and couldn’t work out if it’s NSWers wanting in to Qld or Qlders wanting in to NSW.
Either way, build a wall and make Victoria pay for it.
Leviticus 13:45
New International Version
45 “Anyone with such a defiling disease must wear torn clothes, let their hair be unkempt, cover the lower part of their face and cry out, ‘Unclean! Unclean!’
Bogsnorkler said:
Leviticus 13:45
New International Version
45 “Anyone with such a defiling disease must wear torn clothes, let their hair be unkempt, cover the lower part of their face and cry out, ‘Unclean! Unclean!’
Fuck bro you’re lightning fast
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Leviticus 13:45
New International Version
45 “Anyone with such a defiling disease must wear torn clothes, let their hair be unkempt, cover the lower part of their face and cry out, ‘Unclean! Unclean!’
Fuck bro you’re lightning fast
there is always room for second fiddle in my orchestra.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Leviticus 13:45
New International Version
45 “Anyone with such a defiling disease must wear torn clothes, let their hair be unkempt, cover the lower part of their face and cry out, ‘Unclean! Unclean!’
Fuck bro you’re lightning fast
there is always room for second fiddle in my orchestra.
What global example should Australia be following regarding opening up after vaccination?
Professor Kelly says Israel was very successful and implemented widespread vaccination very quickly…..
cut
“Israel similarly, they recently have seen an increase in cases but the death rates and hospitalisation rates have not increased. We’ve absolutely looked at those every day and every week, and both of those countries in particular, and are learning from their experiences.”
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From the ABC live updates: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100396724
He might like to look at the daily deaths graph at Worldometers for Israel. Death rates are on the increase again. I noticed this the other day when I was looking at various countries.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
buffy said:
What global example should Australia be following regarding opening up after vaccination?Professor Kelly says Israel was very successful and implemented widespread vaccination very quickly…..
cut“Israel similarly, they recently have seen an increase in cases but the death rates and hospitalisation rates have not increased. We’ve absolutely looked at those every day and every week, and both of those countries in particular, and are learning from their experiences.”
—————————————————————————————————————————————————-
From the ABC live updates: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100396724
He might like to look at the daily deaths graph at Worldometers for Israel. Death rates are on the increase again. I noticed this the other day when I was looking at various countries.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
And I found it a bit puzzling. And probably worrying.
buffy said:
buffy said:
What global example should Australia be following regarding opening up after vaccination?
Professor Kelly says Israel was very successful and implemented widespread vaccination very quickly…..
cut“Israel similarly, they recently have seen an increase in cases but the death rates and hospitalisation rates have not increased. We’ve absolutely looked at those every day and every week, and both of those countries in particular, and are learning from their experiences.”
—————————————————————————————————————————————————-
From the ABC live updates: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100396724
He might like to look at the daily deaths graph at Worldometers for Israel. Death rates are on the increase again. I noticed this the other day when I was looking at various countries.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
And I found it a bit puzzling. And probably worrying.
yeah but why let inconvenient truth cloud LetItRip^TM for The Economy Must Grow ¿ Just hold off elective surgery for a couple more decades and nobody will be wanting any ever again
The Reverend Jesse Jackson, a protégé of the Reverend Martin Luther King and a two-time presidential candidate, and his wife, Jacqueline, are being monitored in hospital after testing positive for COVID-19.
This makes things difficult to pin down…
https://www.sciencealert.com/over-a-third-of-covid-infections-are-truly-asymptomatic-says-massive-new-analysis
North Bondi Cam shot, 2:30 pm today
These people don’t look like they are exercising
dv said:
North Bondi Cam shot, 2:30 pm today
These people don’t look like they are exercising
Those people lying down:
they’re doing sit-ups.
‘OK, there’s…one sit-up. Now, i’ll lie down, and in twenty minutes, i’ll do another one.”
dv said:
North Bondi Cam shot, 2:30 pm today
These people don’t look like they are exercising
Well they could be.
But I’m surprised the beach is open when they shut it down last year.
dv said:
North Bondi Cam shot, 2:30 pm today
These people don’t look like they are exercising
they’re exercising their freedums.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
North Bondi Cam shot, 2:30 pm today
These people don’t look like they are exercising
Well they could be.
But I’m surprised the beach is open when they shut it down last year.
It’s ok, the bugs have moved out among the po’ folks in the Westies.
Up-market citizens aren’t worried now.
dv said:
North Bondi Cam shot, 2:30 pm today
These people don’t look like they are exercising
no its the south west that’s the problem look over there at them instead
Ps I live in the south west. there are dickheads like these dickheads here too … Sydney seems to be full of dickheads.no matter what part they hail from
dv said:
North Bondi Cam shot, 2:30 pm today
These people don’t look like they are exercising
there does seem to be some distancing.
Michael V said:
This makes things difficult to pin down…https://www.sciencealert.com/over-a-third-of-covid-infections-are-truly-asymptomatic-says-massive-new-analysis
And plays havoc with your kill rate.
Michael V said:
This makes things difficult to pin down…https://www.sciencealert.com/over-a-third-of-covid-infections-are-truly-asymptomatic-says-massive-new-analysis
uh we thought we already knew that, and it just means random testing works
There is
pre-symptomatic
symptomatic
asymptomatic
any others?
dv said:
North Bondi Cam shot, 2:30 pm today
These people don’t look like they are exercising
So what’s Gladys Pigchicken got to say about that?
That’s if she ever gets asked.
Woodie said:
dv said:
North Bondi Cam shot, 2:30 pm today
These people don’t look like they are exercising
So what’s Gladys Pigchicken got to say about that?
That’s if she ever gets asked.
She could try yelling out sink holes, they might move then.
and another one bites the dust.
https://www.busseltonmail.com.au/story/7397176/outspoken-vaccine-sceptic-dies-of-covid-19/
Bogsnorkler said:
and another one bites the dust.https://www.busseltonmail.com.au/story/7397176/outspoken-vaccine-sceptic-dies-of-covid-19/
Covid wont save
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bogsnorkler said:
and another one bites the dust.https://www.busseltonmail.com.au/story/7397176/outspoken-vaccine-sceptic-dies-of-covid-19/
Covid wont save
- Outspoken journalists
- Sceptics
- Anti-vaxers
- Conspiracy theorists
- Political trolls with misinformation
- Social media trolls with misinformation
- Disbelievers
- Others with their own financial agenda
- Others with their fake papers and research
- Holistic practitioners
- American religious preachers who wont wear masks
- etc
for completeness
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
buffy said:
What global example should Australia be following regarding opening up after vaccination?
Professor Kelly says Israel was very successful and implemented widespread vaccination very quickly…..
cut“Israel similarly, they recently have seen an increase in cases but the death rates and hospitalisation rates have not increased. We’ve absolutely looked at those every day and every week, and both of those countries in particular, and are learning from their experiences.”
—————————————————————————————————————————————————-
From the ABC live updates: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100396724
He might like to look at the daily deaths graph at Worldometers for Israel. Death rates are on the increase again. I noticed this the other day when I was looking at various countries.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
And I found it a bit puzzling. And probably worrying.
yeah but why let inconvenient truth cloud LetItRip^TM for The Economy Must Grow ¿ Just hold off elective surgery for a couple more decades and nobody will be wanting any ever again
this is a secret so keep it just between you and me
whispering tone
if the other states around NSW had not maintained a good-as-elimination approach, done it so well, NSW would be in a much worse situation than the not-very-good-one it’s in right now
even to this moment and for quite a long time yet they will benefit from the low incidence in other states
just quietly
sshh finger on lips
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
buffy said:
What global example should Australia be following regarding opening up after vaccination?
Professor Kelly says Israel was very successful and implemented widespread vaccination very quickly…..
cut“Israel similarly, they recently have seen an increase in cases but the death rates and hospitalisation rates have not increased. We’ve absolutely looked at those every day and every week, and both of those countries in particular, and are learning from their experiences.”
—————————————————————————————————————————————————-
From the ABC live updates: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100396724
He might like to look at the daily deaths graph at Worldometers for Israel. Death rates are on the increase again. I noticed this the other day when I was looking at various countries.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
And I found it a bit puzzling. And probably worrying.
yeah but why let inconvenient truth cloud LetItRip^TM for The Economy Must Grow ¿ Just hold off elective surgery for a couple more decades and nobody will be wanting any ever again
From Their Own ABC
We agree with you transition and we are quite sad that things are going the way they are, though indeed it could be much worse.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
And I found it a bit puzzling. And probably worrying.
yeah but why let inconvenient truth cloud LetItRip^TM for The Economy Must Grow ¿ Just hold off elective surgery for a couple more decades and nobody will be wanting any ever again
From Their Own ABC
Welcome to forever covid…
transition said:
SCIENCE said:buffy said:
And I found it a bit puzzling. And probably worrying.
yeah but why let inconvenient truth cloud LetItRip^TM for The Economy Must Grow ¿ Just hold off elective surgery for a couple more decades and nobody will be wanting any ever again
this is a secret so keep it just between you and me
whispering tone
if the other states around NSW had not maintained a good-as-elimination approach, done it so well, NSW would be in a much worse situation than the not-very-good-one it’s in right noweven to this moment and for quite a long time yet they will benefit from the low incidence in other states
just quietly
sshh finger on lips
the propaganda and deceptions are to distract from that mentioned above, to spin things so they appear some other way, even somewhat opposite preferably, it’s a horridly inconvenient reality
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
yeah but why let inconvenient truth cloud LetItRip^TM for The Economy Must Grow ¿ Just hold off elective surgery for a couple more decades and nobody will be wanting any ever again
From Their Own ABC
Welcome to forever covid…
It seems to have mutated to be more transmissible, but it’s still kind to children. Very low death rates in children, even though the cases have (apparently) increased recently. (Last year we weren’t really testing children much here, I don’t know about other countries, because testing was predicated on having symptoms.) This is an American report from recently.
https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:From Their Own ABC
Welcome to forever covid…
It seems to have mutated to be more transmissible, but it’s still kind to children. Very low death rates in children, even though the cases have (apparently) increased recently. (Last year we weren’t really testing children much here, I don’t know about other countries, because testing was predicated on having symptoms.) This is an American report from recently.
uh … higher than before we thought, unless they’re cooking something in the books
see how well foreverSmallpox worked
SCIENCE said:
JudgeMental said:
Free article
“https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/18/alabama-doctor-unvaccinated-patients-valentine/“https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/18/alabama-doctor-unvaccinated-patients-valentine/
Free Speech
A Different Valentine
A few days after Phil Valentine announced he had tested positive for Covid-19 on July 11th, the conservative talk-radio host wrote on Facebook that he was “doing my patriotic duty for natural herd immunity.” Valentine, whose nationally syndicated Phil Valentine Show aired on 100 stations from 2007 to 2019, had questioned the vaccines on his current show on Nashville’s SuperTalk 99.7 WTN and online, mocking the U.S.’s inoculation campaign in the song “Vaxman,” a parody of the Beatles’ “Taxman.” “I certainly am not getting the vax now,” he replied to a commenter on Facebook on July 14th. “I have full immunity.” Valentine died Saturday from complications related to Covid-19, according to a tweet from his station. He was 61.
Valentine’s condition steadily worsened since announcing his diagnosis. Two weeks into hospitalization, he was placed on a ventilator and, on July 30th, his brother Mark Valentine said he was going to be transferred to an ECMO machine, which does the work of the heart and lungs.
“You need to have a plan in case you get COVID. Make SURE you get your vitamin D3 level checked… And then have a doctor on speed dial who will write you a prescription for ivermectin,” Phil Valentine wrote on Facebook on July 13th, recommending an unproven drug used to treat livestock for worms. “If you’re high risk of dying from COVID I still strongly suggest you consider the vaccine, but this it totally your choice. Just make sure you’re prepared if you decide against the vaccine.”
“He wishes he could do it over,” Valentine’s brother Mark told Nashville public radio station WPLN in a July interview. “His regret ‘I made the decision based on my situation, but I know now that a lot of people didn’t get the vaccine because I didn’t get the vaccine. And that is what I would like to correct.’”
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.
dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.
It’s laughable how these weirdies think they have popular public support.
dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.
Why would Kiwi truck driver want to take back Australia, they’ve already got the Bledisloe Cup, the cunts.
dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.
¿ can you just confirm what we’re reading, so they’re protesting border restrictions by blocking the borders ?
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.¿ can you just confirm what we’re reading, so they’re protesting border restrictions by blocking the borders ?
I’ll never understand how this burk went bankrupt.
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.¿ can you just confirm what we’re reading, so they’re protesting border restrictions by blocking the borders ?
I’d be surprised if any truck drivers joined in.
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.¿ can you just confirm what we’re reading, so they’re protesting border restrictions by blocking the borders ?
I’d be surprised if any truck drivers joined in.
Looks like he took lessons from Trump.
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
buffy said:
What global example should Australia be following regarding opening up after vaccination?
Professor Kelly says Israel was very successful and implemented widespread vaccination very quickly…..
cut“Israel similarly, they recently have seen an increase in cases but the death rates and hospitalisation rates have not increased. We’ve absolutely looked at those every day and every week, and both of those countries in particular, and are learning from their experiences.”
—————————————————————————————————————————————————-
From the ABC live updates: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/covid-live-blog-nsw-cases-vic-lockdown-vaccine-eligibility/100396724
He might like to look at the daily deaths graph at Worldometers for Israel. Death rates are on the increase again. I noticed this the other day when I was looking at various countries.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
And I found it a bit puzzling. And probably worrying.
yeah but why let inconvenient truth cloud LetItRip^TM for The Economy Must Grow ¿ Just hold off elective surgery for a couple more decades and nobody will be wanting any ever again
this is a secret so keep it just between you and me
whispering tone
if the other states around NSW had not maintained a good-as-elimination approach, done it so well, NSW would be in a much worse situation than the not-very-good-one it’s in right noweven to this moment and for quite a long time yet they will benefit from the low incidence in other states
just quietly
sshh finger on lips
also outright just what the fuck videre licet
Mr Morrison has played down those concerns, adding the Doherty Institute would be providing updated advice to National Cabinet this week. “The advice we have from the Doherty Institute is the starting point does not ultimately alter the conclusions of the modelling,” Mr Morrison told the ABC’s Insiders program.
oh wait that’s right someone we don’t know actually understands what experts say
Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese argued Australians were confused about what National Cabinet’s plan would actually mean. “Australians want less confusion and more leadership from this Prime Minister, and yet what they get is boasting, consistently trying to paint a rosier picture than the one that is there,” he said. “The Doherty advice isn’t just ‘open at 70 per cent’, it has some assumptions in there and it’s predicated upon low numbers of cases.
let’s see then
Vaccination rate of 70% won’t end lockdowns if Covid case numbers are too high, Doherty Institute expert says
One of the architects of the modelling behind Australia’s path out of lockdown says New South Wales’ Covid case numbers are too high for widespread vaccinations to contain the virus as envisioned in the plan. University of Melbourne professor of mathematical biology James McCaw said if NSW case numbers weren’t reduced, “stronger social measures and stronger versions of lockdowns rather than weaker” would be needed even once vaccination rates reached 70%.
wait what was that again
New South Wales’ Covid case numbers are too high for widespread vaccinations to contain the virus as envisioned … if NSW case numbers weren’t reduced, “stronger social measures and stronger versions of lockdowns rather than weaker” would be needed
Doherty modelling outlines a path to fewer restrictions after national vaccinations hit 70%, it also assumes outbreaks beginning in the 10s rather than hundreds, “continuous low-level social restrictions” and an “optimal” testing, tracing, isolating and quarantine system to control numbers.
we mean apart from outright fucking lying, we suppose Marketing And The Corruption Coalition are actually telling the truth, id est
“the starting point does not ultimately alter the conclusions of the modelling” because the conclusion is that “low cases is good, high cases is bad” and even starting with high cases would still mean that low cases is good, high cases is bad
also surely that’s Wales’s but whatever
dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.
https://www.facebook.com/greataustralianparty
A few nutters.
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.¿ can you just confirm what we’re reading, so they’re protesting border restrictions by blocking the borders ?
I’d be surprised if any truck drivers joined in.
Some truck drivers would join in.
Toot Toot, motherfuckers, coming through!
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.¿ can you just confirm what we’re reading, so they’re protesting border restrictions by blocking the borders ?
I’ll never understand how this burk went bankrupt.
I’d be surprised if any truck drivers joined in.
Looks like he took lessons from Trump.
in breaking news millions of white collar workers protest office closures by insisting on working from home
another way to easily prevent others from spreading SARS-CoV-2 to you
just tell them to STFU and problem solved
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412020320675
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab691/6343417
dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.
It’s connected to a loopy scheme being promulgated by Karen Brewer, the conspiracy nut who fled to New Zealand to avoid facing the $875,000-odd fine for defamation.
Neophyte said:
dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.It’s connected to a loopy scheme being promulgated by Karen Brewer, the conspiracy nut who fled to New Zealand to avoid facing the $875,000-odd fine for defamation.
Who’d she defame?
roughbarked said:
Neophyte said:
dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.It’s connected to a loopy scheme being promulgated by Karen Brewer, the conspiracy nut who fled to New Zealand to avoid facing the $875,000-odd fine for defamation.
Who’d she defame?
https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/karen/12711396
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.¿ can you just confirm what we’re reading, so they’re protesting border restrictions by blocking the borders ?
I’d be surprised if any truck drivers joined in.
the majority of our land freight to the east coast goes by rail anyway.
roughbarked said:
Neophyte said:
dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.It’s connected to a loopy scheme being promulgated by Karen Brewer, the conspiracy nut who fled to New Zealand to avoid facing the $875,000-odd fine for defamation.
Who’d she defame?
Accused a coalition MP of being involved in a paedophile ring.
Neophyte said:
dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.It’s connected to a loopy scheme being promulgated by Karen Brewer, the conspiracy nut who fled to New Zealand to avoid facing the $875,000-odd fine for defamation.
Besides the paedophilia in the defamation case what other conspiracies does she spout?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Neophyte said:
dv said:
Someone shared this on FB.
After a bit of looking I tracked it to a campaign being run by Rod Culleton’s Great Australia Party. You might remember he was a senator for a few minutes before being found ineligible due to bankruptcy. It’s related to mandatory vaccination.
1) not sure much is crossing the borders these days anyway except trucks.
2) NZ doesn’t have states, it is a unitary authority.It’s connected to a loopy scheme being promulgated by Karen Brewer, the conspiracy nut who fled to New Zealand to avoid facing the $875,000-odd fine for defamation.
Besides the paedophilia in the defamation case what other conspiracies does she spout?
They have a chain reaction of nutter speak. You name it.
The plan is this:
At 9.00am on 31st August, everybody will gather outside every government office in the land – Federal, State or local, it matters not. Everyone will gather ten paces from the front doors of said offices.
For three hours, they will stand in silence. No shouty slogans, no chanting. Just unnerving silence.
Then, at twelve noon, everyone will take one step forward. At 12:01, another step. All while maintaining complete silence.
At 10 past, everyone will have reached the doors of every government office in the land. They will somehow magically deliver themselves into the lobby, front area, or foyer of such places, and remain IN SILENCE until every on of those corrupt government lackeys has stood down.
Don’t ask me how it’s supposed to work, it sorts the men from the boys apparently.
Neophyte said:
The plan is this:At 9.00am on 31st August, everybody will gather outside every government office in the land – Federal, State or local, it matters not. Everyone will gather ten paces from the front doors of said offices.
For three hours, they will stand in silence. No shouty slogans, no chanting. Just unnerving silence.
Then, at twelve noon, everyone will take one step forward. At 12:01, another step. All while maintaining complete silence.
At 10 past, everyone will have reached the doors of every government office in the land. They will somehow magically deliver themselves into the lobby, front area, or foyer of such places, and remain IN SILENCE until every on of those corrupt government lackeys has stood down.
Don’t ask me how it’s supposed to work, it sorts the men from the boys apparently.
It’s not a good plan.
sarahs mum said:
Neophyte said:
The plan is this:At 9.00am on 31st August, everybody will gather outside every government office in the land – Federal, State or local, it matters not. Everyone will gather ten paces from the front doors of said offices.
For three hours, they will stand in silence. No shouty slogans, no chanting. Just unnerving silence.
Then, at twelve noon, everyone will take one step forward. At 12:01, another step. All while maintaining complete silence.
At 10 past, everyone will have reached the doors of every government office in the land. They will somehow magically deliver themselves into the lobby, front area, or foyer of such places, and remain IN SILENCE until every on of those corrupt government lackeys has stood down.
Don’t ask me how it’s supposed to work, it sorts the men from the boys apparently.
It’s not a good plan.
I can’t see any of those numpties shutting up for three hours.
Sounds Like A Communist Labor Cook Up
Australia’s building standards would be overhauled to stem the spread of COVID-19 and employers could be sued if poorly ventilated workplaces led to outbreaks, under changes some say could be as important as vaccination in the battle against the virus. State governments, employers and unions are in negotiations on a legally enforceable code of practice that would force employers to protect workers from airborne transmission of COVID-19. The Sunday Age has also learnt that the federal body that sets building laws is moving to create rules that would ensure new buildings have ventilation and filtration features that minimise indoor circulation of pathogens. Buildings including restaurants, schools, homes, apartment buildings and offices continue to be the highest-risk locations for disease spread, and many Victorian classrooms – the site for several recent outbreaks – have air quality 2½ times worse than recommended.
But ventilation is rarely mentioned by politicians and government officials, and most of the public remain in the dark about simple steps to check and improve air quality to prevent outbreaks. The world is moving ahead of Australia. Asian nations that successfully managed COVID-19 were alive to the importance of ventilation early in the pandemic, while European nations such as Belgium and Ireland are passing laws mandating businesses to provide clean air. US President Joe Biden’s $130 billion schools package includes funding to ventilate schools and keep them open. Burnet Institute director Professor Brendan Crabb said ventilation was the “missing link” that could speed up Australia’s path to a position when lockdowns weren’t necessary. “Dealing with airborne spread has been the biggest failure in Australia’s response,” he said.
Former Victorian Liberal premier Ted Baillieu, a trained architect who has been pressuring governments behind the scenes to address air quality, called for a national ventilation taskforce to co-ordinate urgent policy change. “In managing transmission, this is as important as vaccination,” he said.
Professor Morawska said the cost of constructing better-ventilated buildings would be outweighed by the economic benefit associated with a healthier society. A study published in the Science journal in May found the US economy would save $50 billion a year because workers would be healthier and take fewer sick days, and Professor Crabb questioned whether the almost non-existent prevalence of flu in Australia could be made permanent.
No way, fuck you, we need annual deaths and (mostly transient but significant) disability from ‘flu’ to uh you know keep people tough and population low and for The Economy Must Grow and yeah.
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“The world is moving ahead of Australia.”
Gee Wonder Where We’ve Heard That One Before
we mean
Gee Wonder Where We’ve Heard That One Million Times Before
SCIENCE said:
also outright just what the fuck videre licet
Mr Morrison has played down those concerns, adding the Doherty Institute would be providing updated advice to National Cabinet this week. “The advice we have from the Doherty Institute is the starting point does not ultimately alter the conclusions of the modelling,” Mr Morrison told the ABC’s Insiders program.
oh wait that’s right someone we don’t know actually understands what experts say
Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese argued Australians were confused about what National Cabinet’s plan would actually mean. “Australians want less confusion and more leadership from this Prime Minister, and yet what they get is boasting, consistently trying to paint a rosier picture than the one that is there,” he said. “The Doherty advice isn’t just ‘open at 70 per cent’, it has some assumptions in there and it’s predicated upon low numbers of cases.
let’s see then
Vaccination rate of 70% won’t end lockdowns if Covid case numbers are too high, Doherty Institute expert says
One of the architects of the modelling behind Australia’s path out of lockdown says New South Wales’ Covid case numbers are too high for widespread vaccinations to contain the virus as envisioned in the plan. University of Melbourne professor of mathematical biology James McCaw said if NSW case numbers weren’t reduced, “stronger social measures and stronger versions of lockdowns rather than weaker” would be needed even once vaccination rates reached 70%.
wait what was that again
New South Wales’ Covid case numbers are too high for widespread vaccinations to contain the virus as envisioned … if NSW case numbers weren’t reduced, “stronger social measures and stronger versions of lockdowns rather than weaker” would be needed
Doherty modelling outlines a path to fewer restrictions after national vaccinations hit 70%, it also assumes outbreaks beginning in the 10s rather than hundreds, “continuous low-level social restrictions” and an “optimal” testing, tracing, isolating and quarantine system to control numbers.
Oh wait the trouble we’re seeing in small places is also starting to show up in big places.
Whoops, why wait, let’s join them¡
Presumably truth from the ground
pity it’s not ground zeroCOVID.
Neophyte said:
sarahs mum said:
Neophyte said:
The plan is this:At 9.00am on 31st August, everybody will gather outside every government office in the land – Federal, State or local, it matters not. Everyone will gather ten paces from the front doors of said offices.
For three hours, they will stand in silence. No shouty slogans, no chanting. Just unnerving silence.
Then, at twelve noon, everyone will take one step forward. At 12:01, another step. All while maintaining complete silence.
At 10 past, everyone will have reached the doors of every government office in the land. They will somehow magically deliver themselves into the lobby, front area, or foyer of such places, and remain IN SILENCE until every on of those corrupt government lackeys has stood down.
Don’t ask me how it’s supposed to work, it sorts the men from the boys apparently.
It’s not a good plan.
I can’t see any of those numpties shutting up for three hours.
Yeah, they’re all perfectly normal…
East Gaza
Not sure we agree with labelling the downgoing axes as negative though.
Last week, New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian said her state was “learning to live” with the Delta strain of COVID-19.
However, Mr McGowan said the NSW government should follow the national strategy.
“Just because the NSW government has comprehensively failed doesn’t mean we should deviate from the measures and the plan that has been put in place,” he said.“I know what the Premier of NSW said yesterday, she must have been in a different meeting than me.
“We all agreed that we have to follow the measures we agreed on a few weeks ago and we have to continue to suppress with vengeance COVID across Australia.”
“What’s happened in NSW is obviously tragic and very difficult … but there’s an Australia outside of NSW and we’re all doing our best to keep the virus out,” Mr McGowan said.
The Premier acknowledged Victoria and the ACT were doing everything they could to “crush and kill the virus”.
“It’s only NSW that is not — they’re letting down the entire country,” he said.
“It’s very debilitating for the federation and for everyone else trying to do the right thing.”While Prime Minister Scott Morrison said it was “highly unlikely” that Australia would be able to achieve COVID zero in the future, Mr McGowan said the NSW approach of living with the virus should not be accepted.
“There’s a lot of excuse-making now … because NSW didn’t do what it should’ve done back in June and over the course of the last two months, they’re now saying the NSW model should apply everywhere, which is to give in — I don’t accept that.
“We agreed on Friday we’d use every lever to suppress, to beat down the virus … whether it’s zero or close to zero.”
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No kidding we thank Mark for actually standing up for NSWuhanese against their own useless leader.
SCIENCE said:
East Gaza
Not sure we agree with labelling the downgoing axes as negative though.
Ta, thanks.
Australia flu-like illnesses again.
Near-perfect forgeries of the federal government’s COVID-19 vaccine digital certificate can be made in 10 minutes using free software, a member of the public has discovered.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-08-23/covid-19-vaccine-certificates-forged-in-10-minutes/100390578
SCIENCE said:
Last week, New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian said her state was “learning to live” with the Delta strain of COVID-19.However, Mr McGowan said the NSW government should follow the national strategy.
“Just because the NSW government has comprehensively failed doesn’t mean we should deviate from the measures and the plan that has been put in place,” he said.“I know what the Premier of NSW said yesterday, she must have been in a different meeting than me.
“We all agreed that we have to follow the measures we agreed on a few weeks ago and we have to continue to suppress with vengeance COVID across Australia.”
“What’s happened in NSW is obviously tragic and very difficult … but there’s an Australia outside of NSW and we’re all doing our best to keep the virus out,” Mr McGowan said.
The Premier acknowledged Victoria and the ACT were doing everything they could to “crush and kill the virus”.
“It’s only NSW that is not — they’re letting down the entire country,” he said.
“It’s very debilitating for the federation and for everyone else trying to do the right thing.”While Prime Minister Scott Morrison said it was “highly unlikely” that Australia would be able to achieve COVID zero in the future, Mr McGowan said the NSW approach of living with the virus should not be accepted.
“There’s a lot of excuse-making now … because NSW didn’t do what it should’ve done back in June and over the course of the last two months, they’re now saying the NSW model should apply everywhere, which is to give in — I don’t accept that.
“We agreed on Friday we’d use every lever to suppress, to beat down the virus … whether it’s zero or close to zero.”
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No kidding we thank Mark for actually standing up for NSWuhanese against their own useless leader.
there’s a strange dynamic in the aether, election on the horizon, a messy situation in NSW, or if it hangs in the minds of australians as being peculiar to NSW, won’t bode well for the federal incumbent
consequently the evil in the aether of influence
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Last week, New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian said her state was “learning to live” with the Delta strain of COVID-19.However, Mr McGowan said the NSW government should follow the national strategy.
“Just because the NSW government has comprehensively failed doesn’t mean we should deviate from the measures and the plan that has been put in place,” he said.“I know what the Premier of NSW said yesterday, she must have been in a different meeting than me.
“We all agreed that we have to follow the measures we agreed on a few weeks ago and we have to continue to suppress with vengeance COVID across Australia.”
“What’s happened in NSW is obviously tragic and very difficult … but there’s an Australia outside of NSW and we’re all doing our best to keep the virus out,” Mr McGowan said.
The Premier acknowledged Victoria and the ACT were doing everything they could to “crush and kill the virus”.
“It’s only NSW that is not — they’re letting down the entire country,” he said.
“It’s very debilitating for the federation and for everyone else trying to do the right thing.”While Prime Minister Scott Morrison said it was “highly unlikely” that Australia would be able to achieve COVID zero in the future, Mr McGowan said the NSW approach of living with the virus should not be accepted.
“There’s a lot of excuse-making now … because NSW didn’t do what it should’ve done back in June and over the course of the last two months, they’re now saying the NSW model should apply everywhere, which is to give in — I don’t accept that.
“We agreed on Friday we’d use every lever to suppress, to beat down the virus … whether it’s zero or close to zero.”
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No kidding we thank Mark for actually standing up for NSWuhanese against their own useless leader.
there’s a strange dynamic in the aether, election on the horizon, a messy situation in NSW, or if it hangs in the minds of australians as being peculiar to NSW, won’t bode well for the federal incumbent
consequently the evil in the aether of influence
Stupid, backward, redneck Queensland:
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/you-cannot-predict-how-it-will-affect-you-21-year-old-s-covid-warning-20210822-p58kwl.html
https://apnews.com/article/health-coronavirus-pandemic-2eba81ebe3bd54b3bcde890b8cf11c70
Mask, vaccine conflicts descend into violence and harassment
QLD: 1 locally acquired case, in home quarantine, linked to the Indro cluster. Good stuff.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/covid-live-sydney-restrictions-queensland-border-protest/100398206
ABC News:
‘The NSW Police Minister David Elliott says he is “stunned” that 60 people gathered at a Western Sydney church overnight, during the middle of a COVID-19 lockdown.
Key points:
NSW Police issued $35,000 in fines for COVID-19 breaches after officers were called to the illegal gathering in Fourth Avenue, Blacktown about 7:30pm, following multiple complaints to Crime Stoppers.”
The church’s name is ‘Christ Embassy’.
Perhaps they thought that they had diplomatic immunity.
NSW daily cases have plummeted to 818
Nurses from the nearby St Thomas’ hospital sit atop the National COVID-19 Memorial Wall in London.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/premier-abandon-your-plans-to-open-up-when-we-hit-6-million-jabs-20210822-p58kxb.html
Bogsnorkler said:
Nurses from the nearby St Thomas’ hospital sit atop the National COVID-19 Memorial Wall in London.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Covid_Memorial_Wall
The National Covid Memorial Wall is a public mural painted by volunteers to commemorate victims
of the COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom. Stretching a more than a third of a mile along
the South Bank of the River Thames in London, opposite the Palace of Westminster, and just
outside St Thomas’ Hospital, the mural consists of thousands of red and pink hearts, intending to
have one heart for each of the approximately 150,000 casualties of COVID-19 in the United Kingdom
(at the time of the mural’s commencement). The intent was for each heart to be “individually
hand-painted; utterly unique, just like the loved ones we’ve lost”. The mural was organized by
campaign group Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice, with the help of the campaign group
Led By Donkeys, and painting first commenced in the week encompassing the end of March 2021.
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/premier-abandon-your-plans-to-open-up-when-we-hit-6-million-jabs-20210822-p58kxb.html
Well I hope she reads that and has a good think about it.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/premier-abandon-your-plans-to-open-up-when-we-hit-6-million-jabs-20210822-p58kxb.html
Well I hope she reads that and has a good think about it.
wouldn’t it be nice to get on with your neighbours?
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/premier-abandon-your-plans-to-open-up-when-we-hit-6-million-jabs-20210822-p58kxb.html
Well I hope she reads that and has a good think about it.
wouldn’t it be nice to get on with your neighbours?
what’s that old saying, it’s only as good as the fences you build, something like that
transition said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well I hope she reads that and has a good think about it.
wouldn’t it be nice to get on with your neighbours?
what’s that old saying, it’s only as good as the fences you build, something like that
On the other hand:
There’s just one more thing that I wanna say
Everyone has got their own special way
That keeps them from getting too close to the day
Accept and be part of it all and all
Everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
And everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
You gotta be close to it all
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
Bogsnorkler said:wouldn’t it be nice to get on with your neighbours?
what’s that old saying, it’s only as good as the fences you build, something like that
On the other hand:
There’s just one more thing that I wanna say
Everyone has got their own special way
That keeps them from getting too close to the day
Accept and be part of it all and all
Everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
And everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
You gotta be close to it all
sounds like an orgy
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:what’s that old saying, it’s only as good as the fences you build, something like that
On the other hand:
There’s just one more thing that I wanna say
Everyone has got their own special way
That keeps them from getting too close to the day
Accept and be part of it all and all
Everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
And everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
You gotta be close to it all
sounds like an orgy
Well I never looked on it that way, and I doubt that’s what she had in mind.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:On the other hand:
There’s just one more thing that I wanna say
Everyone has got their own special way
That keeps them from getting too close to the day
Accept and be part of it all and all
Everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
And everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
You gotta be close to it all
sounds like an orgy
Well I never looked on it that way, and I doubt that’s what she had in mind.
oh I thought you were applying the idea to a covid orgy of sorts, you could be a covid egalitarian, I wasn’t sure, I was left chucking ideas around
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:sounds like an orgy
Well I never looked on it that way, and I doubt that’s what she had in mind.
oh I thought you were applying the idea to a covid orgy of sorts, you could be a covid egalitarian, I wasn’t sure, I was left chucking ideas around
I was just chucking a Melanified response back to the suggestion we needed great big walls with our neighbours.
Nothing covid related.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well I never looked on it that way, and I doubt that’s what she had in mind.
oh I thought you were applying the idea to a covid orgy of sorts, you could be a covid egalitarian, I wasn’t sure, I was left chucking ideas around
I was just chucking a Melanified response back to the suggestion we needed great big walls with our neighbours.
Nothing covid related.
I wouldn’t go over the top with ‘need great big walls’, at some point that characterization is going to be describing something that is not, not the case, fail to describe the reality
of course there are invisible, even imagined aspects of walls, borders, boundaries, and related there are boundaries of and regard behavior
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
Bogsnorkler said:wouldn’t it be nice to get on with your neighbours?
what’s that old saying, it’s only as good as the fences you build, something like that
On the other hand:
There’s just one more thing that I wanna say
Everyone has got their own special way
That keeps them from getting too close to the day
Accept and be part of it all and all
Everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
And everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
You gotta be close to it all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGkMTV68kDU
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:what’s that old saying, it’s only as good as the fences you build, something like that
On the other hand:
There’s just one more thing that I wanna say
Everyone has got their own special way
That keeps them from getting too close to the day
Accept and be part of it all and all
Everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
And everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
You gotta be close to it all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGkMTV68kDU
Funnily enough, I don’t recall the Small Faces looking like such young kids :)
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:oh I thought you were applying the idea to a covid orgy of sorts, you could be a covid egalitarian, I wasn’t sure, I was left chucking ideas around
I was just chucking a Melanified response back to the suggestion we needed great big walls with our neighbours.
Nothing covid related.
I wouldn’t go over the top with ‘need great big walls’, at some point that characterization is going to be describing something that is not, not the case, fail to describe the reality
of course there are invisible, even imagined aspects of walls, borders, boundaries, and related there are boundaries of and regard behavior
OK, so lets agree on something between Great Big Walls, and no boundaries at all.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:On the other hand:
There’s just one more thing that I wanna say
Everyone has got their own special way
That keeps them from getting too close to the day
Accept and be part of it all and all
Everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
And everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
You gotta be close to it all
sounds like an orgy
Well I never looked on it that way, and I doubt that’s what she had in mind.
Far from it. Lay down wasn’t lay lady lay.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:On the other hand:
There’s just one more thing that I wanna say
Everyone has got their own special way
That keeps them from getting too close to the day
Accept and be part of it all and all
Everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
And everyone tear down your own little wall
That keeps you from being a part of it all
‘Cause you gotta be one with the one and all
You gotta be close to it all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGkMTV68kDU
Funnily enough, I don’t recall the Small Faces looking like such young kids :)
You were too young back then?
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:sounds like an orgy
Well I never looked on it that way, and I doubt that’s what she had in mind.
Far from it. Lay down wasn’t lay lady lay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlp3wmE4bbI
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I was just chucking a Melanified response back to the suggestion we needed great big walls with our neighbours.
Nothing covid related.
I wouldn’t go over the top with ‘need great big walls’, at some point that characterization is going to be describing something that is not, not the case, fail to describe the reality
of course there are invisible, even imagined aspects of walls, borders, boundaries, and related there are boundaries of and regard behavior
OK, so lets agree on something between Great Big Walls, and no boundaries at all.
you keep enjoying the fences and walls around you, what they do, real, imagined, the real imagined and whatever, i’ll keep enjoying the spaces they provide also, and the fact it doesn’t rain inside and more, no agreement required
Trump booed after telling supporters to get Covid vaccine
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/22/donald-trump-rally-alabama-covid-vaccine
sibeen said:
Trump booed after telling supporters to get Covid vaccinehttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/22/donald-trump-rally-alabama-covid-vaccine
Booing the führer, that’s a paddling.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Trump booed after telling supporters to get Covid vaccinehttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/22/donald-trump-rally-alabama-covid-vaccine
Booing the führer, that’s a paddling.
LOL
Uh-oh, Mr. F***-Up is meddling again:
ABC News:
‘We have to move forward’: Prime Minister fights back against state hesitancy to end COVID-19 lockdowns
By political reporter Jake Evans
State leaders who are hesitant to end lockdowns once the country reaches its COVID-19 vaccination targets are warned by the Prime Minister they will do more harm than good.’
captain_spalding said:
Uh-oh, Mr. F***-Up is meddling again:ABC News:
‘We have to move forward’: Prime Minister fights back against state hesitancy to end COVID-19 lockdowns
By political reporter Jake Evans
State leaders who are hesitant to end lockdowns once the country reaches its COVID-19 vaccination targets are warned by the Prime Minister they will do more harm than good.’
70 or 80% of a population that has no children included in the numbers. It’s like a Liberal budget.
The Covid crisis suits rightwing media personalities as they monetise fear
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/23/the-covid-crisis-suits-rightwing-media-personalities-as-they-monetise-fear
New Zealand wants to reassess it’s lockdown strategy too but it’s vaccine roll out is very poor.
“The reality though is that a virus that can be infectious within 24 hours of someone getting it – that changes the game considerably,” he told the televised Q+A political talk show on Sunday.
“It does mean that all of our existing protections… start to look less adequate and less robust,” he said, adding that it raises “some pretty big questions about what the long-term future of our plans are”.
“At some point we will have to start to be more open in the future.”
According to the New Zealand ministry of health website, as of Thursday more than 960,000 people were double vaccinated, and nearly 1.7 million had received a first dose, in a population of just under five million.
But critics have questioned the speed of the vaccine rollout. New Zealand has one of the lowest number of fully vaccinated people among the OECD – an international group of countries that are among the world’s most prosperous economies. “
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58297895
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:I wouldn’t go over the top with ‘need great big walls’, at some point that characterization is going to be describing something that is not, not the case, fail to describe the reality
of course there are invisible, even imagined aspects of walls, borders, boundaries, and related there are boundaries of and regard behavior
OK, so lets agree on something between Great Big Walls, and no boundaries at all.
you keep enjoying the fences and walls around you, what they do, real, imagined, the real imagined and whatever, i’ll keep enjoying the spaces they provide also, and the fact it doesn’t rain inside and more, no agreement required
I’ll agree to disagree that no agreement is required.
The Premier says she wants people to focus on vaccine numbers, not case numbers
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Well, she would wouldn’t she?
sarahs mum said:
The Premier says she wants people to focus on vaccine numbers, not case numbers
—-Well, she would wouldn’t she?
sadly people might actually listen
or not sadly, maybe they’ll focus carefully and recognise she’s talking shit
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
The Premier says she wants people to focus on vaccine numbers, not case numbers
—-Well, she would wouldn’t she?
sadly people might actually listen
or not sadly, maybe they’ll focus carefully and recognise she’s talking shit
Have you got an estimation on how many deaths per day we could have by the election if we end lockdowns in a few weeks and Scotty goes full term?
sarahs mum said:
The Premier says she wants people to focus on vaccine numbers, not case numbers
—-Well, she would wouldn’t she?
“Never mind the bloodbath, look over here!”
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
The Premier says she wants people to focus on vaccine numbers, not case numbers
—-Well, she would wouldn’t she?
sadly people might actually listen
or not sadly, maybe they’ll focus carefully and recognise she’s talking shit
Have you got an estimation on how many deaths per day we could have by the election if we end lockdowns in a few weeks and Scotty goes full term?
Ah, not really, haven’t thought about it much yet but we will in a bit. Going on how UK and Israel are doing it’ll probably be in the 1000s to the 10000s but as we know, the denialists will just carry on with how it’s just restoring the balance with what ‘flu’ should have done anyway, and also ignore all the chronic disease and brain damage especially for the young ones.
We’ll try a more numerical estimate later.
SCIENCE said:
Ah, not really, haven’t thought about it much yet but we will in a bit. Going on how UK and Israel are doing it’ll probably be in the 1000s to the 10000s but as we know, the denialists will just carry on with how it’s just restoring the balance with what ‘flu’ should have done anyway, and also ignore all the chronic disease and brain damage especially for the young ones.
We got to move these refrigerators
We got to move these colour TVs…
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:Ah, not really, haven’t thought about it much yet but we will in a bit. Going on how UK and Israel are doing it’ll probably be in the 1000s to the 10000s but as we know, the denialists will just carry on with how it’s just restoring the balance with what ‘flu’ should have done anyway, and also ignore all the chronic disease and brain damage especially for the young ones.
We got to move these refrigerators
We got to move these colour TVs…
Well, you know, anything and everything for The Economy Per Capita Must Grow¡
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:SCIENCE said:
sadly people might actually listen
or not sadly, maybe they’ll focus carefully and recognise she’s talking shit
Have you got an estimation on how many deaths per day we could have by the election if we end lockdowns in a few weeks and Scotty goes full term?
Ah, not really, haven’t thought about it much yet but we will in a bit. Going on how UK and Israel are doing it’ll probably be in the 1000s to the 10000s but as we know, the denialists will just carry on with how it’s just restoring the balance with what ‘flu’ should have done anyway, and also ignore all the chronic disease and brain damage especially for the young ones.
We’ll try a more numerical estimate later.
I doubt any of the states will be going yeah no worries, mate
the deal was that there would be low numbers (including the possibility of zero, that’s a really low number too), so the states don’t pose a serious threat to any other
if anyone thinks things are going to cruise along with NSW having many hundreds of new cases each day, anything like they have, and the other states are going to go no worries give us some of that, that’s nutty bullshit
Some interesting graphs on the URL which unfortunately won’t format properly for here:
Jabs mostly fend off the Delta strain but breakthroughs are infectious
A new British study also finds that immunity wanes over time
AUG 21ST 2021
On august 18th America’s surgeon general announced that people who got covid-19 vaccines at least eight months ago can receive an extra shot. Israel has already given a third jab to many citizens. France and Britain are also considering boosters.
Covid-19 vaccines offer better defences against hospitalisation and death than versus transmission. However, their protection against infection may have begun to wane. In Iceland and Israel, most adults got jabs months ago, but cases are soaring.
There are two leading explanations for this trend. One is that the Delta variant escapes protection from vaccines. Another is that the jabs’ efficacy declines over time. A new paper finds evidence for both causes.
Led by Koen Pouwels of Oxford, the study, released on August 19th, uses a survey of 500,000 people in Britain who were tested regularly for covid-19. After adjusting for age and time since vaccination, it compared the jabs’ efficacy during two time periods: one dominated by the Alpha variant, and another by Delta. For cases with a high viral load, the efficacy of Pfizer’s jab fell from 94% against Alpha to 84% versus Delta. AstraZeneca’s efficacy dipped from 86% to 70%, and protection resulting from previous infection declined from 87% to 77%.
The passage of time has reinforced this immune escape. One Israeli study showed that people who got Pfizer’s jab in January or February were 50% more likely to have a “breakthrough” case in June or July than were those vaccinated in March or April. The British data back up this result: in the three months following a second jab, Pfizer’s efficacy declined by ten percentage points. AstraZeneca’s vaccine had a milder drop, though it was less protective overall.
The study’s most striking finding involved transmission. In the Alpha period, vaccinated people with breakthrough cases produced only small amounts of virus. This made them less likely to spread it. In contrast, viral loads in breakthrough Delta cases were just as high as those of people exposed to viral proteins for the first time.
The British paper does not study the severity of covid-19 cases. In theory, protection against infection can wane without harming defences against serious disease, because a vaccine-trained immune system can expel the virus quickly. However, hospitalisations in Israel have risen to levels last seen in March. The jury is still out on whether widespread boosters will be necessary to keep hospital beds open.
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/08/21/jabs-mostly-fend-off-the-delta-strain-but-breakthroughs-are-infectious
Queensland border-crossing police officers who decline a COVID vaccine ordered to take leave
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/cross-border-police-vaccinations/100401792?utm_medium=social&utm_content=sf248846505&utm_campaign=fb_abc_news&utm_source=m.facebook.com&sf248846505=1
I got jabbed with the Pfizer today.
The place was packed, but orderly and reasonably well run. Everyone was very well behaved and just put up with it without complaining.
Now I need to book my second.
party_pants said:
I got jabbed with the Pfizer today.The place was packed, but orderly and reasonably well run. Everyone was very well behaved and just put up with it without complaining.
Now I need to book my second.
How did you get the Pfizer? I thought you would be in the AZ age bracket?
Kingy said:
party_pants said:
I got jabbed with the Pfizer today.The place was packed, but orderly and reasonably well run. Everyone was very well behaved and just put up with it without complaining.
Now I need to book my second.
How did you get the Pfizer? I thought you would be in the AZ age bracket?
I am 49. The AZ is still for the 50 and over. My GP scheduled me the get the AZ months ago but then had to cancel it when the new advice shifted to the over 50s only.
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
party_pants said:
I got jabbed with the Pfizer today.The place was packed, but orderly and reasonably well run. Everyone was very well behaved and just put up with it without complaining.
Now I need to book my second.
How did you get the Pfizer? I thought you would be in the AZ age bracket?
I am 49. The AZ is still for the 50 and over. My GP scheduled me the get the AZ months ago but then had to cancel it when the new advice shifted to the over 50s only.
Missed it by that —-><—- much.
I’ve had two AZ’s. The first gave me a sore arm for half a day. The second, no side effects. Nothing. Not even improved wifi.
Kingy said:
party_pants said:
Kingy said:How did you get the Pfizer? I thought you would be in the AZ age bracket?
I am 49. The AZ is still for the 50 and over. My GP scheduled me the get the AZ months ago but then had to cancel it when the new advice shifted to the over 50s only.
Missed it by that —-><—- much.
I’ve had two AZ’s. The first gave me a sore arm for half a day. The second, no side effects. Nothing. Not even improved wifi.
I am hoping for similar. So far I haven’t even got the sore arm. My other arm is hurting more but that was from work the rest of the rest.
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
party_pants said:I am 49. The AZ is still for the 50 and over. My GP scheduled me the get the AZ months ago but then had to cancel it when the new advice shifted to the over 50s only.
Missed it by that —-><—- much.
I’ve had two AZ’s. The first gave me a sore arm for half a day. The second, no side effects. Nothing. Not even improved wifi.
I am hoping for similar. So far I haven’t even got the sore arm. My other arm is hurting more but that was from work the rest of the
rest.
day.
Sorry, cooking and foruming at the same time here.
party_pants said:
Kingy said:
party_pants said:I am 49. The AZ is still for the 50 and over. My GP scheduled me the get the AZ months ago but then had to cancel it when the new advice shifted to the over 50s only.
Missed it by that —-><—- much.
I’ve had two AZ’s. The first gave me a sore arm for half a day. The second, no side effects. Nothing. Not even improved wifi.
I am hoping for similar. So far I haven’t even got the sore arm. My other arm is hurting more but that was from work the rest of the rest.
It seems that the AZ gives a reaction the first time but not the second, and the Pfizer provokes a reaction on the second, but not the first.
I have no data to back that up, but that’s what the rumour mill suggests.
Kingy said:
party_pants said:
Kingy said:Missed it by that —-><—- much.
I’ve had two AZ’s. The first gave me a sore arm for half a day. The second, no side effects. Nothing. Not even improved wifi.
I am hoping for similar. So far I haven’t even got the sore arm. My other arm is hurting more but that was from work the rest of the rest.
It seems that the AZ gives a reaction the first time but not the second, and the Pfizer provokes a reaction on the second, but not the first.
I have no data to back that up, but that’s what the rumour mill suggests.
Me and the 20+ staff can confirm half of anecdote, 2nd Pfizer gives reaction, first does not.
poikilotherm said:
Kingy said:
party_pants said:I am hoping for similar. So far I haven’t even got the sore arm. My other arm is hurting more but that was from work the rest of the rest.
It seems that the AZ gives a reaction the first time but not the second, and the Pfizer provokes a reaction on the second, but not the first.
I have no data to back that up, but that’s what the rumour mill suggests.
Me and the 20+ staff can confirm half of anecdote, 2nd Pfizer gives reaction, first does not.
bummer :(
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:
Kingy said:It seems that the AZ gives a reaction the first time but not the second, and the Pfizer provokes a reaction on the second, but not the first.
I have no data to back that up, but that’s what the rumour mill suggests.
Me and the 20+ staff can confirm half of anecdote, 2nd Pfizer gives reaction, first does not.
bummer :(
If you wait a while, you should get the AZ which has no reaction on the second shot. :)
“Orange’s active COVID case numbers will rise on Wednesday after 7-Eleven confirmed members of their team in Orange had tested positive to the virus. “
Only a mildly busy servo…
poikilotherm said:
“Orange’s active COVID case numbers will rise on Wednesday after 7-Eleven confirmed members of their team in Orange had tested positive to the virus. “Only a mildly busy servo…
:(
It might not have much to do with the type of business, but rather that, AFAICT, people at work do not practice the usual Covid rules with their colleagues as they do when customers are present.
Kingy said:
party_pants said:
Kingy said:Missed it by that —-><—- much.
I’ve had two AZ’s. The first gave me a sore arm for half a day. The second, no side effects. Nothing. Not even improved wifi.
I am hoping for similar. So far I haven’t even got the sore arm. My other arm is hurting more but that was from work the rest of the rest.
It seems that the AZ gives a reaction the first time but not the second, and the Pfizer provokes a reaction on the second, but not the first.
I have no data to back that up, but that’s what the rumour mill suggests.
I’ve had both Pfizer vaccines, and for me the first was worse. Both times I had a sore arm, but the first time only I was also fatigued a few hours before bedtime.
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:
Kingy said:It seems that the AZ gives a reaction the first time but not the second, and the Pfizer provokes a reaction on the second, but not the first.
I have no data to back that up, but that’s what the rumour mill suggests.
Me and the 20+ staff can confirm half of anecdote, 2nd Pfizer gives reaction, first does not.
bummer :(
That’s good…the freezing cold feet for 12 hours or so wasn’t particularly pleasant. (I’m an oldie, AZ for me)
:)
