There’s a push within the Liberal Party, both federal and state, to open up New South Wales when it is 56 per cent fully vaccinated.

More than half of NSW’s intensive care unit beds are already occupied.

Florida has a fully-vaccinated rate of 51 per cent. Its ICU beds are 90 per cent full and filling fast.

And Florida has roughly one ICU bed per 3500 people. NSW has one per 9500. This is why we can’t have nice things.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2021/08/23/michael-pascoe-covid-political-ground-election

Spiny Norman said:

There’s a push within the Liberal Party, both federal and state, to open up New South Wales when it is 56 per cent fully vaccinated.

More than half of NSW’s intensive care unit beds are already occupied.

Florida has a fully-vaccinated rate of 51 per cent. Its ICU beds are 90 per cent full and filling fast.

Also note those geniuses in NSW have already cancelled elective surgery and other usual health provision services so we guess it’s going to work well when they Let It Rip™ For The Economy Per Capita Must Grow.

SCIENCE said:

Spiny Norman said:

There’s a push within the Liberal Party, both federal and state, to open up New South Wales when it is 56 per cent fully vaccinated.

More than half of NSW’s intensive care unit beds are already occupied.

Florida has a fully-vaccinated rate of 51 per cent. Its ICU beds are 90 per cent full and filling fast.

Also note those geniuses in NSW have already cancelled elective surgery and other usual health provision services so we guess it’s going to work well when they Let It Rip™ For The Economy Per Capita Must Grow.

I like the use of per capita. Very exacting.

Spiny Norman said:

There’s a push within the Liberal Party, both federal and state, to open up New South Wales when it is 56 per cent fully vaccinated.

More than half of NSW’s intensive care unit beds are already occupied.

Florida has a fully-vaccinated rate of 51 per cent. Its ICU beds are 90 per cent full and filling fast.

And Florida has roughly one ICU bed per 3500 people. NSW has one per 9500. This is why we can’t have nice things.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2021/08/23/michael-pascoe-covid-political-ground-election

I suspect the age profile of Florida and NSW may be quite different.

sibeen said:

Spiny Norman said:

There’s a push within the Liberal Party, both federal and state, to open up New South Wales when it is 56 per cent fully vaccinated.

More than half of NSW’s intensive care unit beds are already occupied.

Florida has a fully-vaccinated rate of 51 per cent. Its ICU beds are 90 per cent full and filling fast.

And Florida has roughly one ICU bed per 3500 people. NSW has one per 9500. This is why we can’t have nice things.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2021/08/23/michael-pascoe-covid-political-ground-election

I suspect the age profile of Florida and NSW may be quite different.

And having a quick look I find myself to be wrong. The age profiles, at least at a course, cursory glance, appear to be quite similar.

>All governments have agreed to reduce lockdowns and open borders when immunisation rates reach 70 and 80 per cent.

But what proportion of the population are the nutters who are refusing vaccination?

Is that 70% of total population or 70% of over 16s?

dv said:

Is that 70% of total population or 70% of over 16s?

And what do you do at 70% and what do you do at 80%?

dv said:

Is that 70% of total population or 70% of over 16s?

I don’t know.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Is that 70% of total population or 70% of over 16s?

And what do you do at 70% and what do you do at 80%?

70% you stop lockdowns, 80% you open interstate travel.

It seems that it is over 16s.

dv said:

Is that 70% of total population or 70% of over 16s?

70% of “those eligible”

Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

Spiny Norman said:

There’s a push within the Liberal Party, both federal and state, to open up New South Wales when it is 56 per cent fully vaccinated.

More than half of NSW’s intensive care unit beds are already occupied.

Florida has a fully-vaccinated rate of 51 per cent. Its ICU beds are 90 per cent full and filling fast.

Also note those geniuses in NSW have already cancelled elective surgery and other usual health provision services so we guess it’s going to work well when they Let It Rip™ For The Economy Per Capita Must Grow.

I like the use of per capita. Very exacting.

Be fair, even The Experts® are now admitting that saving lives turns out to be better for The Economy Must Grow, so the only recourse the psychopaths have is to start killing Culling The Weak™ to make individuals richer.

Key points:
The Victorian Premier said around 10,000 people were abandoning appointments each day
He has urged everyone to head to the appointments and support the state in “vaccinating our way out of this”
Epidemiologist Tony Blakely has suggested an extended “soft lockdown” as an option if the current restrictions fail to pull up the outbreak

SCIENCE said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

Also note those geniuses in NSW have already cancelled elective surgery and other usual health provision services so we guess it’s going to work well when they Let It Rip™ For The Economy Per Capita Must Grow.

I like the use of per capita. Very exacting.

Be fair, even The Experts® are now admitting that saving lives turns out to be better for The Economy Must Grow, so the only recourse the psychopaths have is to start killing Culling The Weak™ to make individuals richer.

Yeah I got it.

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Is that 70% of total population or 70% of over 16s?

And what do you do at 70% and what do you do at 80%?

70% you stop lockdowns, 80% you open interstate travel.

It seems that it is over 16s.

^^^

party_pants said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Is that 70% of total population or 70% of over 16s?

And what do you do at 70% and what do you do at 80%?

70% you stop lockdowns, 80% you open interstate travel.

It seems that it is over 16s.

70% of “those eligible”

Uh last year we had no lockdown and open interstate travel at 0% so uh glad we agreed on this piece of genius here ^…

Of course if they mean “despite escalating cases” then fuck us dead, some numbers worth remembering:

• herd immunity was previously estimated at like 70%, but B.1.617.2 made it more like 90%
• immunity declines and is like half at 6 months so call that a halflife if you like
• we’re not even going to bring further evolution to breakthrough into this

so you’re all telling us that

• at “70% of the eligible at some point in the past eternity” meaning 70% of 70% of the population but now half beyond the halflife, we’re going to go for broke

then that makes 70% * 70% * (can’t be bothered integrating so let’s just assume the midpoint is literally half id est 50%) = 25% population immunity

well then seems like “broke” is going to be the outcome because fucking up pandemic control does seem to fuck up The Economy Must Grow.

SCIENCE said:

crazy thing is we don’t even think the Russians CHINA need to pay much for the misinfluencers to basically poison half the USSA, and that’s without polonium tea or ricin raincoats or Novichok perfume

Instead of listening to fucked in the head corruption coalsmearers, we think people might do better listening to experts like this.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/nsw-intensive-care-specialist-warning-for-young/100399554

An intensive care specialist at a Western Sydney hospital has pleaded with young people to “help” health care staff by getting vaccinated. Nhi Nguyen from Nepean Hospital said she and her colleagues were worried by increasing numbers of young people being admitted to the Intensive Care Unit (ICU), where up to 25 per cent of patients were under 40.

“We would much prefer to never meet you and your families.” There are currently 586 COVID-19 cases in hospital throughout NSW, with 100 in intensive care. Thirty-two are being ventilated. Of the 100 cases in ICU, one is in their teens, seven are in their 20s, 11 are in their 30s, 20 are in their 40s, 31 are in their 50s, 16 are in their 60s, 13 are in their 70s, and one is in their 80s. Dr Nguyen said it was also concerning that the Delta strain was causing young people to remain in intensive care for longer.

Dr Nguyen said it had been “devastating” to see COVID-19 infect entire families. “I think everybody underestimates when they actually get COVID. They don’t think it will happen to them. What you end up with is families — you may have a wife in one hospital, the husband in another, their parents in another again.” Children who may also be infected end up going to hospital having family members there to support them, she said.

But she assured families of people hospitalised with COVID-19 that doctors and nurses across the state were providing “compassionate care” to their loved ones.

—

One. “Compassionate care” eh, is that a[n] euphemism for some other kind of “compassion is what we have left to provide” care¿

Two. Not mentioned in article: even more effective measures to prevent “increasing numbers of young people being admitted to the Intensive Care Unit”, such as proper isolation / quarantine and the proper wearing of proper masks.

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

crazy thing is we don’t even think the Russians CHINA need to pay much for the misinfluencers to basically poison half the USSA, and that’s without polonium tea or ricin raincoats or Novichok perfume

I mean I think a lot of the USA’s enemies have just stamped their file “DONE” and put them in the outtray.

If an N95 filters out 95% of large and small airborne particles.

Then a standard blue surgical mask would have to be an N-zero mask, wouldn’t it.

mollwollfumble said:

If an N95 filters out 95% of large and small airborne particles.

Then a standard blue surgical mask would have to be an N-zero mask, wouldn’t it.

¿ref

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

crazy thing is we don’t even think the Russians CHINA need to pay much for the misinfluencers to basically poison half the USSA, and that’s without polonium tea or ricin raincoats or Novichok perfume

I mean I think a lot of the USA’s enemies have just stamped their file “DONE” and put them in the outtray.

Most of the USA’s enemies are invented by paranoid US generals. They consist only of US friends that the US has stabbed in the back.

But that doesn’t mean that the rest of the world doesn’t enjoy the US illustrating how incompetent it is by killing 600,000 of its own people.

SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

70% you stop lockdowns, 80% you open interstate travel.

It seems that it is over 16s.

70% of “those eligible”

Uh last year we had no lockdown and open interstate travel at 0% so uh glad we agreed on this piece of genius here ^…

Of course if they mean “despite escalating cases” then fuck us dead, some numbers worth remembering:

• herd immunity was previously estimated at like 70%, but B.1.617.2 made it more like 90%
• immunity declines and is like half at 6 months so call that a halflife if you like
• we’re not even going to bring further evolution to breakthrough into this

so you’re all telling us that

• at “70% of the eligible at some point in the past eternity” meaning 70% of 70% of the population but now half beyond the halflife, we’re going to go for broke

then that makes 70% * 70% * (can’t be bothered integrating so let’s just assume the midpoint is literally half id est 50%) = 25% population immunity

well then seems like “broke” is going to be the outcome because fucking up pandemic control does seem to fuck up The Economy Must Grow.

communist

“Herd immunity” is what you get when you don’t use vaccines at all.
Eventually every animal in the herd is exposed to virus fragments shed by infected individuals.

It’s wrong to call immunity generated by vaccines “herd immunity” because with vaccines there are no virus fragments shed by coughing and sneezing to make the rest of the herd immune.

mollwollfumble said:

“Herd immunity” is what you get when you don’t use vaccines at all.
Eventually every animal in the herd is exposed to virus fragments shed by infected individuals.

It’s wrong to call immunity generated by vaccines “herd immunity” because with vaccines there are no virus fragments shed by coughing and sneezing to make the rest of the herd immune.

I disagree.

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

70% of “those eligible”

Uh last year we had no lockdown and open interstate travel at 0% so uh glad we agreed on this piece of genius here ^…

Of course if they mean “despite escalating cases” then fuck us dead, some numbers worth remembering:

• herd immunity was previously estimated at like 70%, but B.1.617.2 made it more like 90%
• immunity declines and is like half at 6 months so call that a halflife if you like
• we’re not even going to bring further evolution to breakthrough into this

so you’re all telling us that

• at “70% of the eligible at some point in the past eternity” meaning 70% of 70% of the population but now half beyond the halflife, we’re going to go for broke

then that makes 70% * 70% * (can’t be bothered integrating so let’s just assume the midpoint is literally half id est 50%) = 25% population immunity

well then seems like “broke” is going to be the outcome because fucking up pandemic control does seem to fuck up The Economy Must Grow.

communist

A little like pertussis…

ABC News:

‘Zero COVID ‘just not possible’, Berejiklian says
7.30
/ By Leigh Sales and Myles Wearring
New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian says the Delta variant has made a zero-COVID target “completely unrealistic”, and all states and territories must learn to live with it when borders eventually reopen.’

“OK so i up-ended the dunny can all over the floor. You’ll all just have to live in the mess i made, because i can’t put it back in the can now. Hopefully if enough of the peasants in your States die, people will forget who’s to blame for it. Now, get on down to Harvey Norman – i hear that they’re having a sale. (How was that, Scotty, do you think that they bought it?)”

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Zero COVID ‘just not possible’, Berejiklian says
7.30
/ By Leigh Sales and Myles Wearring
New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian says the Delta variant has made a zero-COVID target “completely unrealistic”, and all states and territories must learn to live with it when borders eventually reopen.’

“OK so i up-ended the dunny can all over the floor. You’ll all just have to live in the mess i made, because i can’t put it back in the can now. Hopefully if enough of the peasants in your States die, people will forget who’s to blame for it. Now, get on down to Harvey Norman – i hear that they’re having a sale. (How was that, Scotty, do you think that they bought it?)”

’Most hated man in Australia’ Richard Pusey pleads guilty to string of offenses

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/richard-pusey-charged-several-offences/100400158

I think Gladys is after the crown.

sibeen said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Zero COVID ‘just not possible’, Berejiklian says
7.30
/ By Leigh Sales and Myles Wearring
New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian says the Delta variant has made a zero-COVID target “completely unrealistic”, and all states and territories must learn to live with it when borders eventually reopen.’

“OK so i up-ended the dunny can all over the floor. You’ll all just have to live in the mess i made, because i can’t put it back in the can now. Hopefully if enough of the peasants in your States die, people will forget who’s to blame for it. Now, get on down to Harvey Norman – i hear that they’re having a sale. (How was that, Scotty, do you think that they bought it?)”

’Most hated man in Australia’ Richard Pusey pleads guilty to string of offenses

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/richard-pusey-charged-several-offences/100400158

I think Gladys is after the crown.

I hope Gutwein has no intention of listening to her.

poikilotherm said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Uh last year we had no lockdown and open interstate travel at 0% so uh glad we agreed on this piece of genius here ^…

Of course if they mean “despite escalating cases” then fuck us dead, some numbers worth remembering:

• herd immunity was previously estimated at like 70%, but B.1.617.2 made it more like 90%
• immunity declines and is like half at 6 months so call that a halflife if you like
• we’re not even going to bring further evolution to breakthrough into this

so you’re all telling us that

• at “70% of the eligible at some point in the past eternity” meaning 70% of 70% of the population but now half beyond the halflife, we’re going to go for broke

then that makes 70% * 70% * (can’t be bothered integrating so let’s just assume the midpoint is literally half id est 50%) = 25% population immunity

well then seems like “broke” is going to be the outcome because fucking up pandemic control does seem to fuck up The Economy Must Grow.

communist

A little like pertussis…

¿ quite similar to 5 doses ?

sibeen said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Zero COVID ‘just not possible’, Berejiklian says
7.30
/ By Leigh Sales and Myles Wearring
New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian says the Delta variant has made a zero-COVID target “completely unrealistic”, and all states and territories must learn to live with it when borders eventually reopen.’

“OK so i up-ended the dunny can all over the floor. You’ll all just have to live in the mess i made, because i can’t put it back in the can now. Hopefully if enough of the peasants in your States die, people will forget who’s to blame for it. Now, get on down to Harvey Norman – i hear that they’re having a sale. (How was that, Scotty, do you think that they bought it?)”

’Most hated man in Australia’ Richard Pusey pleads guilty to string of offenses

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/richard-pusey-charged-several-offences/100400158

I think Gladys is after the crown.

cough

Clive Palmer

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Zero COVID ‘just not possible’, Berejiklian says
7.30
/ By Leigh Sales and Myles Wearring
New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian says the Delta variant has made a zero-COVID target “completely unrealistic”, and all states and territories must learn to live with it when borders eventually reopen.’

“OK so i up-ended the dunny can all over the floor. You’ll all just have to live in the mess i made, because i can’t put it back in the can now. Hopefully if enough of the peasants in your States die, people will forget who’s to blame for it. Now, get on down to Harvey Norman – i hear that they’re having a sale. (How was that, Scotty, do you think that they bought it?)”

’Most hated man in Australia’ Richard Pusey pleads guilty to string of offenses

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/richard-pusey-charged-several-offences/100400158

I think Gladys is after the crown.

cough

Clive Palmer

Nah, he’s a minor annoyance and really only to WAliens; Gladys is the real deal.

Compare Australian July with July, first one was Dictator Dan, but this

is thanks to Gutless. She can fuck off and put someone competent in charge.

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

’Most hated man in Australia’ Richard Pusey pleads guilty to string of offenses

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/richard-pusey-charged-several-offences/100400158

I think Gladys is after the crown.

cough

Clive Palmer

Nah, he’s a minor annoyance and really only to WAliens; Gladys is the real deal.

I get the impression that she’s a bit of a puppet though, dancing to the tune of Scomo & Sky etc.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/23/why-is-australia-at-odds-over-the-doherty-report-and-what-does-it-say-about-opening-up-the-country

Katharine Murphy

Political editor

Ireland are up to 74% over 16s fully vaccinated, with over 90% having at least the first dose. They are now rolling out vaccines for 12-16 year olds.

party_pants said:

Ireland are up to 74% over 16s fully vaccinated, with over 90% having at least the first dose. They are now rolling out vaccines for 12-16 year olds.

They beat us to same sex marriage, too.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Ireland are up to 74% over 16s fully vaccinated, with over 90% having at least the first dose. They are now rolling out vaccines for 12-16 year olds.

They beat us to same sex marriage, too.

… and the invention of stout.

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Ireland are up to 74% over 16s fully vaccinated, with over 90% having at least the first dose. They are now rolling out vaccines for 12-16 year olds.

They beat us to same sex marriage, too.

… and the invention of stout.

anyway that vaccination seems to be working well

oh all right we suppose it has reduced the case fatality rate by a factor of 3

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/23/why-is-australia-at-odds-over-the-doherty-report-and-what-does-it-say-about-opening-up-the-country

Katharine Murphy

Political editor

i’d add that potentials of bidirectional infection exchange from areas, states and territories (across an expanded mixing population) where there is a radical difference in infection numbers (and rate of increase), the bidirectional exchange pushes the numbers up in the low incidence areas, the less elimination compliant populations deliver the virus (with social immunity some hope) to areas, states and territories where it doesn’t exist even (zero covid)

presently the low incidence of infection populations (including zero incidence) are helping the high incidence population control the rate of infection expansion in the high incidence areas, or populations

so, it might be argued the PM and NSW premier (and quite a few others, some of which may have infiltrated the broadcaster, and brought a flavor of loyalties from elsewhere) want the superspreader-state-in-waiting to deliver its contagion bomb to the rest of the country, with social immunity

it’s not going to happen that way, not without a bigger commitment from NSW to driving numbers down

just my personal opinions above, possibly all wrong, whatever

transition said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/23/why-is-australia-at-odds-over-the-doherty-report-and-what-does-it-say-about-opening-up-the-country

Katharine Murphy

Political editor

i’d add that potentials of bidirectional infection exchange from areas, states and territories (across an expanded mixing population) where there is a radical difference in infection numbers (and rate of increase), the bidirectional exchange pushes the numbers up in the low incidence areas, the less elimination compliant populations deliver the virus (with social immunity some hope) to areas, states and territories where it doesn’t exist even (zero covid)

presently the low incidence of infection populations (including zero incidence) are helping the high incidence population control the rate of infection expansion in the high incidence areas, or populations

so, it might be argued the PM and NSW premier (and quite a few others, some of which may have infiltrated the broadcaster, and brought a flavor of loyalties from elsewhere) want the superspreader-state-in-waiting to deliver its contagion bomb to the rest of the country, with social immunity

it’s not going to happen that way, not without a bigger commitment from NSW to driving numbers down

just my personal opinions above, possibly all wrong, whatever

“Keep them out!” seems to be a very common sentiment here on the island.

transition said:

might be argued the PM and NSW premier (and quite a few others, some of which may have infiltrated the broadcaster, and brought a flavor of loyalties from elsewhere) want the superspreader-state-in-waiting to deliver its contagion bomb to the rest of the country

100%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thSLVqDIVcw
IN FULL: Victoria detects 71 new locally acquired cases of COVID-19 | ABC News

just watched that^, and now ought stoke the fire and go to bed

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/nsw-covid-19-vaccination-rate-among-worlds-fastest/100399754

Something good has to happen. Gladys sat on her hands for too long, and has now given up. She’s relying on vaccinations only. Even proper information seems to be sporadic. I see COVID has gotten into Goodooga. Bloody.

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/nsw-covid-19-vaccination-rate-among-worlds-fastest/100399754

Something good has to happen. Gladys sat on her hands for too long, and has now given up. She’s relying on vaccinations only. Even proper information seems to be sporadic. I see COVID has gotten into Goodooga. Bloody.

It’s quite remarkable how processes can speed up by orders of magnitude when a politician is trying to rescue what remains of their reputation.

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/nsw-covid-19-vaccination-rate-among-worlds-fastest/100399754

Something good has to happen. Gladys sat on her hands for too long, and has now given up. She’s relying on vaccinations only. Even proper information seems to be sporadic. I see COVID has gotten into Goodooga. Bloody.

It’s quite remarkable how processes can speed up by orders of magnitude when a politician is trying to rescue what remains of their reputation.

Sadly, this appears to be the case.

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/nsw-covid-19-vaccination-rate-among-worlds-fastest/100399754

Something good has to happen. Gladys sat on her hands for too long, and has now given up. She’s relying on vaccinations only. Even proper information seems to be sporadic. I see COVID has gotten into Goodooga. Bloody.

It’s quite remarkable how processes can speed up by orders of magnitude when a politician is trying to rescue what remains of their reputation.

It cant be that because her approval rating is still very high.

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/nsw-covid-19-vaccination-rate-among-worlds-fastest/100399754

Something good has to happen. Gladys sat on her hands for too long, and has now given up. She’s relying on vaccinations only. Even proper information seems to be sporadic. I see COVID has gotten into Goodooga. Bloody.

It’s quite remarkable how processes can speed up by orders of magnitude when a politician is trying to rescue what remains of their reputation.

It cant be that because her approval rating is still very high.

Perhaps that’s because no-one in NSW knows who the leader of the State opposition is.

“Chris Minns? Never heard of him. When did he pop up? Better stick with Glad, better the devil you know and all that”.

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/nsw-covid-19-vaccination-rate-among-worlds-fastest/100399754

Something good has to happen. Gladys sat on her hands for too long, and has now given up. She’s relying on vaccinations only. Even proper information seems to be sporadic. I see COVID has gotten into Goodooga. Bloody.

It’s quite remarkable how processes can speed up by orders of magnitude when a politician is trying to rescue what remains of their reputation.

It cant be that because her approval rating is still very high.

Outside of NSW, The Weirdo State, it’s likely to be rock bottom.

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

It’s quite remarkable how processes can speed up by orders of magnitude when a politician is trying to rescue what remains of their reputation.

It cant be that because her approval rating is still very high.

Outside of NSW, The Weirdo State, it’s likely to be rock bottom.

She’s not terribly popular in my part of the state.

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

It’s quite remarkable how processes can speed up by orders of magnitude when a politician is trying to rescue what remains of their reputation.

It cant be that because her approval rating is still very high.

Outside of NSW, The Weirdo State, it’s likely to be rock bottom.

I suppose it depends on who you poll, and in what areas of the State.

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It cant be that because her approval rating is still very high.

Outside of NSW, The Weirdo State, it’s likely to be rock bottom.

She’s not terribly popular in my part of the state.

Many outside of NSW see her as a danger to the whole nation.

Scummo’s probably provided her with an AFP detachment to protect her from possible arrest by interstate forces.

Gosh, it turns out that i don’t know who is leader of the NSW opposition, either!

I thought it was Chris Minns.

It’s Jodi McKay!

Never heard of her until now.

Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Outside of NSW, The Weirdo State, it’s likely to be rock bottom.

She’s not terribly popular in my part of the state.

Many outside of NSW see her as a danger to the whole nation.

Scummo’s probably provided her with an AFP detachment to protect her from possible arrest by interstate forces.

More likely to ensure that she doesn’t start thinking for herself.

captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It cant be that because her approval rating is still very high.

Outside of NSW, The Weirdo State, it’s likely to be rock bottom.

I suppose it depends on who you poll, and in what areas of the State.

She’s not very popular in some forums, in some forums there’s standing room only on the bus.

“Queensland has recorded two new local cases of COVID-19

There are 2 new local cases currently under investigation. Both returned positive tests in NSW and have since tested negative in Queensland.

They are truck drivers.

There are 4 new overseas acquired cases — 1 detected in hotel quarantine and 3 detected on a marine vessel.

The Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says the truck drivers are not considered a major risk at this stage.”

———————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/covid-live-updates-press-conference-nsw-victoria-queensland/100400652

Michael V said:

“Queensland has recorded two new local cases of COVID-19

There are 2 new local cases currently under investigation. Both returned positive tests in NSW and have since tested negative in Queensland.

They are truck drivers.

There are 4 new overseas acquired cases — 1 detected in hotel quarantine and 3 detected on a marine vessel.

The Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says the truck drivers are not considered a major risk at this stage.”

———————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/covid-live-updates-press-conference-nsw-victoria-queensland/100400652

Covid is spreading rapidly in the majority Aboriginal town of Wilcannia in far western New South Wales, with at least 39 cases recorded in a week in a community of just 750 people.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/wilcannias-only-supermarket-temporarily-closed-for-deep-clean/100400416

My daughter in law is due to give birth half way through next month.

She has been hesitant to get vaccinated while pregnant but has decided to get it done. Her GP put her in for her shot today even though she only spoke to them about this yesterday

My rational self knows that statistically she and the baby will be fine and the risks of a problem are much much less than those related to covid.

My numb brain however is quite anxious.

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

My daughter in law is due to give birth half way through next month.

She has been hesitant to get vaccinated while pregnant but has decided to get it done. Her GP put her in for her shot today even though she only spoke to them about this yesterday

My rational self knows that statistically she and the baby will be fine and the risks of a problem are much much less than those related to covid.

My numb brain however is quite anxious.

Fear not. The vaccine is safer than the alternatives.
She could be taking ivermectin for example.

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

My daughter in law is due to give birth half way through next month.

She has been hesitant to get vaccinated while pregnant but has decided to get it done. Her GP put her in for her shot today even though she only spoke to them about this yesterday

My rational self knows that statistically she and the baby will be fine and the risks of a problem are much much less than those related to covid.

My numb brain however is quite anxious.

Yep, that’s quite understandable.

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

My daughter in law is due to give birth half way through next month.

She has been hesitant to get vaccinated while pregnant but has decided to get it done. Her GP put her in for her shot today even though she only spoke to them about this yesterday

My rational self knows that statistically she and the baby will be fine and the risks of a problem are much much less than those related to covid.

My numb brain however is quite anxious.

Pregnant women are a priority for the Pfizer vaccine so I’m sure they’ll be OK.

roughbarked said:

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

My daughter in law is due to give birth half way through next month.

She has been hesitant to get vaccinated while pregnant but has decided to get it done. Her GP put her in for her shot today even though she only spoke to them about this yesterday

My rational self knows that statistically she and the baby will be fine and the risks of a problem are much much less than those related to covid.

My numb brain however is quite anxious.

Fear not. The vaccine is safer than the alternatives.
She could be taking ivermectin for example.

I wonder if Onty is self medicating with his sheep-dip. Hey if it’s good enough for Missy…

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

My daughter in law is due to give birth half way through next month.

She has been hesitant to get vaccinated while pregnant but has decided to get it done. Her GP put her in for her shot today even though she only spoke to them about this yesterday

My rational self knows that statistically she and the baby will be fine and the risks of a problem are much much less than those related to covid.

My numb brain however is quite anxious.

Fear not. The vaccine is safer than the alternatives.
She could be taking ivermectin for example.

I wonder if Onty is self medicating with his sheep-dip. Hey if it’s good enough for Missy…

;) That’s an ontywontygongolope.

Bubblecar said:

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

My daughter in law is due to give birth half way through next month.

She has been hesitant to get vaccinated while pregnant but has decided to get it done. Her GP put her in for her shot today even though she only spoke to them about this yesterday

My rational self knows that statistically she and the baby will be fine and the risks of a problem are much much less than those related to covid.

My numb brain however is quite anxious.

Pregnant women are a priority for the Pfizer vaccine so I’m sure they’ll be OK.

^

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Fear not. The vaccine is safer than the alternatives.
She could be taking ivermectin for example.

I wonder if Onty is self medicating with his sheep-dip. Hey if it’s good enough for Missy…

;) That’s an ontywontygongolope.

Nice try…

:)

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

“Queensland has recorded two new local cases of COVID-19

There are 2 new local cases currently under investigation. Both returned positive tests in NSW and have since tested negative in Queensland.

They are truck drivers.

There are 4 new overseas acquired cases — 1 detected in hotel quarantine and 3 detected on a marine vessel.

The Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says the truck drivers are not considered a major risk at this stage.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/covid-live-updates-press-conference-nsw-victoria-queensland/100400652

Covid is spreading rapidly in the majority Aboriginal town of Wilcannia in far western New South Wales, with at least 39 cases recorded in a week in a community of just 750 people.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/wilcannias-only-supermarket-temporarily-closed-for-deep-clean/100400416

So all going to plan nice one ¡

Speaking of trying, it seems Scomo is singlehandedly trying to keep the nation together. What a hero!:

“Agriculture Minister David Littleproud says Australia cannot keep current restrictions in place forever.

“This is what is testing our federation,” he told Sky News.

“The Prime Minister’s trying to keep the federation together but it’s just going to take a little courage, conviction of all our state premiers to come with us and make sure we work together, rather than in isolation.”“

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/covid-live-updates-press-conference-nsw-victoria-queensland/100400652

Michael V said:

Speaking of trying, it seems Scomo is singlehandedly trying to keep the nation together. What a hero!:

“Agriculture Minister David Littleproud says Australia cannot keep current restrictions in place forever.

“This is what is testing our federation,” he told Sky News.

“The Prime Minister’s trying to keep the federation together but it’s just going to take a little courage, conviction of all our state premiers to come with us and make sure we work together, rather than in isolation.”“

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/covid-live-updates-press-conference-nsw-victoria-queensland/100400652

truth is what 50% of the Australian population buy into

Apparently numbers fall after curfewers, or is that curfever¿

—

NSW has recorded 753 new locally acquired COVID-19 cases
73 cases were in isolation throughout their infectious period and 22 were in isolation for part of their infectious period.

49 cases were infectious in the community, and the isolation status of 609 cases remains under investigation.

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Fear not. The vaccine is safer than the alternatives.
She could be taking ivermectin for example.

I wonder if Onty is self medicating with his sheep-dip. Hey if it’s good enough for Missy…

;) That’s an ontywontygongolope.

Ivermectin is used therapeutically in humans…just not for Covid.

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Speaking of trying, it seems Scomo is singlehandedly trying to keep the nation together. What a hero!:

“Agriculture Minister David Littleproud says Australia cannot keep current restrictions in place forever.

“This is what is testing our federation,” he told Sky News.

“The Prime Minister’s trying to keep the federation together but it’s just going to take a little courage, conviction of all our state premiers to come with us and make sure we work together, rather than in isolation.”“

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/covid-live-updates-press-conference-nsw-victoria-queensland/100400652

truth is what 50% of the Australian population buy into

Yes.

poikilotherm said:

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I wonder if Onty is self medicating with his sheep-dip. Hey if it’s good enough for Missy…

;) That’s an ontywontygongolope.

Ivermectin is used therapeutically in humans…just not for Covid.

In specifically regulated doses no doubt.

NSW records 753 new locally acquired COVID-19 cases in the 24 hours to 8:00pm last night.

captain_spalding said:

Gosh, it turns out that i don’t know who is leader of the NSW opposition, either!

I thought it was Chris Minns.

It’s Jodi McKay!

Never heard of her until now.

You were right before you checked.

McKay departed some weeks ago.

Although I don’t recall hearing from either of them other than for a few days at the time of the swapover.

SCIENCE said:

Apparently numbers fall after curfewers, or is that curfever¿

—

NSW has recorded 753 new locally acquired COVID-19 cases
73 cases were in isolation throughout their infectious period and 22 were in isolation for part of their infectious period.

49 cases were infectious in the community, and the isolation status of 609 cases remains under investigation.

No deaths, so that’s something positive.

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

SCIENCE said:

sadly people might actually listen

or not sadly, maybe they’ll focus carefully and recognise she’s talking shit

Have you got an estimation on how many deaths per day we could have by the election if we end lockdowns in a few weeks and Scotty goes full term?

Ah, not really, haven’t thought about it much yet but we will in a bit. Going on how UK and Israel are doing it’ll probably be in the 1000s to the 10000s but as we know, the denialists will just carry on with how it’s just restoring the balance with what ‘flu’ should have done anyway, and also ignore all the chronic disease and brain damage especially for the young ones.

We’ll try a more numerical estimate later.

Follow up for sarahs mum.

From last week didn’t forget but these people whose job is doing the modelling are probably more reliable than our casual “throw numbers in the air and see where they land”.

https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1429861411052683264

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

Have you got an estimation on how many deaths per day we could have by the election if we end lockdowns in a few weeks and Scotty goes full term?

Ah, not really, haven’t thought about it much yet but we will in a bit. Going on how UK and Israel are doing it’ll probably be in the 1000s to the 10000s but as we know, the denialists will just carry on with how it’s just restoring the balance with what ‘flu’ should have done anyway, and also ignore all the chronic disease and brain damage especially for the young ones.

We’ll try a more numerical estimate later.

Follow up for sarahs mum.

From last week didn’t forget but these people whose job is doing the modelling are probably more reliable than our casual “throw numbers in the air and see where they land”.

https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1429861411052683264

Yes. Let’s aim high. Very high.

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

Have you got an estimation on how many deaths per day we could have by the election if we end lockdowns in a few weeks and Scotty goes full term?

Ah, not really, haven’t thought about it much yet but we will in a bit. Going on how UK and Israel are doing it’ll probably be in the 1000s to the 10000s but as we know, the denialists will just carry on with how it’s just restoring the balance with what ‘flu’ should have done anyway, and also ignore all the chronic disease and brain damage especially for the young ones.

We’ll try a more numerical estimate later.

Follow up for sarahs mum.

From last week didn’t forget but these people whose job is doing the modelling are probably more reliable than our casual “throw numbers in the air and see where they land”.

https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1429861411052683264

the flagrant not caring about kiddies. I hate that.

I suppose they could replace any they lost with imported children or offer bonuses to those who would have one for the country again. And then they could raid centrelink and NDIS and make the savings again there like they did last time.

The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

Gosh, it turns out that i don’t know who is leader of the NSW opposition, either!

I thought it was Chris Minns.

It’s Jodi McKay!

Never heard of her until now.

You were right before you checked.

McKay departed some weeks ago.

Although I don’t recall hearing from either of them other than for a few days at the time of the swapover.

The new NSW ALP leader was interviewed on the ABC radio several weeks ago, he was very impressive.
The ABC chap kept asking him leading questions so he could criticise the NSW government but he said he was supportive of their efforts and criticising just for the sake of it was unhelpful.
The ABC chap kept trying to get him to criticise Gladys but he was having none of it. To my knowledge the ABC hasn’t interviewed him since.

Evidence That Doherty Institute Is An Independent Purely Scientific Agency

Doherty Institute director says reopening the country is safe once 70-80 per cent COVID vaccination rate achieved

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/head-of-doherty-institute-covid19-nsw-vaccine-vic-scott-morrison/100401082

Speaking on The Drum on Monday night, director Sharon Lewin said the modelling used by the Australian government as a pathway out of the pandemic was not affected by the nation’s rising number of new infections.

“Whether you open up at 30 or you open up at 800, you will still continue to see numbers escalate,” Professor Lewin said. “At the moment there really is no difference with how the model predicted outcomes.”

While she said the modelling was sound, Professor Lewin also acknowledged more people would die from COVID-19 if states and territories began to ease restrictions and open up while they still had high case numbers.

LOL check that again¿

—

(it’s another Marketing trick; this time as we said earlier: the modelling includes the different scenarios, so the modelling itself doesn’t change depending on where you are, only the outcomes)

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

Gosh, it turns out that i don’t know who is leader of the NSW opposition, either!

I thought it was Chris Minns.

It’s Jodi McKay!

Never heard of her until now.

You were right before you checked.

McKay departed some weeks ago.

Although I don’t recall hearing from either of them other than for a few days at the time of the swapover.

The new NSW ALP leader was interviewed on the ABC radio several weeks ago, he was very impressive.
The ABC chap kept asking him leading questions so he could criticise the NSW government but he said he was supportive of their efforts and criticising just for the sake of it was unhelpful.
The ABC chap kept trying to get him to criticise Gladys but he was having none of it. To my knowledge the ABC hasn’t interviewed him since.

PWM praising a Labor personage?

We don’t see that very often :)

Shrug we’ve taught during at least one (1) COVID-19 lockdown and no big deal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/covid-school-home-learning-teachers-at-breaking-point/100393190

maybe they need to improve online learning infrastructure and train a few more teachers a bit better.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

You were right before you checked.

McKay departed some weeks ago.

Although I don’t recall hearing from either of them other than for a few days at the time of the swapover.

The new NSW ALP leader was interviewed on the ABC radio several weeks ago, he was very impressive.
The ABC chap kept asking him leading questions so he could criticise the NSW government but he said he was supportive of their efforts and criticising just for the sake of it was unhelpful.
The ABC chap kept trying to get him to criticise Gladys but he was having none of it. To my knowledge the ABC hasn’t interviewed him since.

PWM praising a Labor personage?

We don’t see that very often :)

There’s a good reason for that.
The ABC reporter so wanted him to stick it up Gladys but he was having none of it.
The ABC chap was becoming increasingly frustrated, I don’t think the ABC has interviewed him on radio since.
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/newsradio/nsw-opposition-leader-chris-minns-urges-jobkeeper/13464112

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I wonder if Onty is self medicating with his sheep-dip. Hey if it’s good enough for Missy…

;) That’s an ontywontygongolope.

Nice try…

:)

oh witty would be referring to the organophosphate-induced delayed polyneuropathy

SCIENCE said:

Shrug we’ve taught during at least one (1) COVID-19 lockdown and no big deal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/covid-school-home-learning-teachers-at-breaking-point/100393190

maybe they need to improve online learning infrastructure and train a few more teachers a bit better.

According to Mr ABC, everything is always “at breaking point” or “on the verge of collapse”.

Tell me when it has broke, or has collapsed. Until then, not interested.

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The new NSW ALP leader was interviewed on the ABC radio several weeks ago, he was very impressive.
The ABC chap kept asking him leading questions so he could criticise the NSW government but he said he was supportive of their efforts and criticising just for the sake of it was unhelpful.
The ABC chap kept trying to get him to criticise Gladys but he was having none of it. To my knowledge the ABC hasn’t interviewed him since.

PWM praising a Labor personage?

We don’t see that very often :)

There’s a good reason for that.
The ABC reporter so wanted him to stick it up Gladys but he was having none of it.
The ABC chap was becoming increasingly frustrated, I don’t think the ABC has interviewed him on radio since.
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/newsradio/nsw-opposition-leader-chris-minns-urges-jobkeeper/13464112

Presumably they realised he was pretty useless as an Opposition spokesman.

Woodie said:

SCIENCE said:

Shrug we’ve taught during at least one (1) COVID-19 lockdown and no big deal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/covid-school-home-learning-teachers-at-breaking-point/100393190

maybe they need to improve online learning infrastructure and train a few more teachers a bit better.

According to Mr ABC, everything is always “at breaking point” or “on the verge of collapse”.

Tell me when it has broke, or has collapsed. Until then, not interested.

So you’ve changed your view of the situation since your FUCK YOU GLADYS days?

Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

SCIENCE said:

Shrug we’ve taught during at least one (1) COVID-19 lockdown and no big deal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/covid-school-home-learning-teachers-at-breaking-point/100393190

maybe they need to improve online learning infrastructure and train a few more teachers a bit better.

According to Mr ABC, everything is always “at breaking point” or “on the verge of collapse”.

Tell me when it has broke, or has collapsed. Until then, not interested.

So you’ve changed your view of the situation since your FUCK YOU GLADYS days?

Don’t get me started on them fuckin’ whingers……… DON“T GET ME STARTED!!

“Oh… oh…. I’m so tired and fatigued stuck at home with this lockdown”

SAY FUCKING WAH?????

Awwwwww diddums…….Then go have a fucking snooze, ya fuckhead!

DON“T GET ME STARTED!!!😒😤

Woodie said:

SCIENCE said:

Shrug we’ve taught during at least one (1) COVID-19 lockdown and no big deal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-23/covid-school-home-learning-teachers-at-breaking-point/100393190

maybe they need to improve online learning infrastructure and train a few more teachers a bit better.

According to Mr ABC, everything is always “at breaking point” or “on the verge of collapse”.

Tell me when it has broke, or has collapsed. Until then, not interested.

the imminent crash of the social construction of reality, the kids are all going to turn into wolf children or something resembling orangutans, revert to a primitive state, possibly even lose their usual bipedal walk, start crawling around on all fours, lose their capacity for English and start speaking in howling sounds, or grunts

Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

According to Mr ABC, everything is always “at breaking point” or “on the verge of collapse”.

Tell me when it has broke, or has collapsed. Until then, not interested.

So you’ve changed your view of the situation since your FUCK YOU GLADYS days?

Don’t get me started on them fuckin’ whingers……… DON“T GET ME STARTED!!

“Oh… oh…. I’m so tired and fatigued stuck at home with this lockdown”

SAY FUCKING WAH?????

Awwwwww diddums…….Then go have a fucking snooze, ya fuckhead!

DON“T GET ME STARTED!!!😒😤

Those articles can be tiring, but at least some ABC writers do criticise Gladys.

Unlike the NSW Opposition who seem to be in awe of her.

Bubblecar said:

Those articles can be tiring, but at least some ABC writers do criticise Gladys.

Unlike the NSW Opposition who seem to be in awe of her.

They’re not willing to be critical of her because they’re shit-scared they might win the next election and have to try to do better than her.

I think I might have to retire the OK Boomer catchphrase because most of the antibax protesters seem to be Gen X .

dv said:

I think I might have to retire the OK Boomer catchphrase because most of the antibax protesters seem to be Gen X .

What do Gen Xers have against bax?

dv said:

I think I might have to retire the OK Boomer catchphrase because most of the antibax protesters seem to be Gen X .

I agree. It is a very dismissive statement that says more amout the person saying it than the person it is aimed at.

captain_spalding said:

Bubblecar said:

Those articles can be tiring, but at least some ABC writers do criticise Gladys.

Unlike the NSW Opposition who seem to be in awe of her.

They’re not willing to be critical of her because they’re shit-scared they might win the next election and have to try to do better than her.

Still 2 years away.

Meanwhile, the medical centre I went to today in FNQ gives you the choice between Pfizer and AZ. So now I have the pf nanobots flooding through my system.

Dark Orange said:

dv said:

I think I might have to retire the OK Boomer catchphrase because most of the antibax protesters seem to be Gen X .

I agree. It is a very dismissive statement that says more amout the person saying it than the person it is aimed at.

What about “No worries Boomer”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/woman-charges-through-wa-border-rams-police/100401858

Good grief!

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/woman-charges-through-wa-border-rams-police/100401858

Good grief!

Mental illness or drugs?

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/woman-charges-through-wa-border-rams-police/100401858

Good grief!

who was driving a Volvo wagon and towing a caravan
—-

I’m going to outrun police with a caravan!

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/woman-charges-through-wa-border-rams-police/100401858

Good grief!

who was driving a Volvo wagon and towing a caravan
—-

I’m going to outrun police with a caravan!

I hope they impound the caravan. She was using it as a weapon.

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/woman-charges-through-wa-border-rams-police/100401858

Good grief!

who was driving a Volvo wagon and towing a caravan
—-

I’m going to outrun police with a caravan!

I hope they impound the caravan. She was using it as a weapon.

Read that, one wild lady there.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/rescue-dogs-shot-dead-by-nsw-council-due-to-covid-19-restrictions-20210821-p58ksh.html

Rescue dogs shot dead by NSW council due to COVID-19 restrictions

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/woman-charges-through-wa-border-rams-police/100401858

Good grief!

One wonders how some people actually survive. A 47 year-old!

Michael V said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/woman-charges-through-wa-border-rams-police/100401858

Good grief!

One wonders how some people actually survive. A 47 year-old!

According to the Doherty Institute, the speed you’re going when you crash doesn’t affect the modelling.

Whether you crash at 3 km/h or you crash at 80 km/h, you will still damage your vehicle,” Professor Lewin said.

“At the moment there really is no difference with how the model predicted outcomes.”

She also acknowledged more damage would be taken if crashing while speed was still high

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/woman-charges-through-wa-border-rams-police/100401858

Good grief!

One wonders how some people actually survive. A 47 year-old!

According to the Doherty Institute, the speed you’re going when you crash doesn’t affect the modelling.

Whether you crash at 3 km/h or you crash at 80 km/h, you will still damage your vehicle,” Professor Lewin said.

“At the moment there really is no difference with how the model predicted outcomes.”

She also acknowledged more damage would be taken if crashing while speed was still high

No problem.

As long as at least 70% of the adult occupants have their seat belts properly fixed.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

One wonders how some people actually survive. A 47 year-old!

According to the Doherty Institute, the speed you’re going when you crash doesn’t affect the modelling.

Whether you crash at 3 km/h or you crash at 80 km/h, you will still damage your vehicle,” Professor Lewin said.

“At the moment there really is no difference with how the model predicted outcomes.”

She also acknowledged more damage would be taken if crashing while speed was still high

No problem.

As long as at least 70% of the adult occupants have their seat belts properly fixed.

We thought alternatively as long as the brakes work 70% 50% 25% of the time it should be fine ¿

Or maybe airbags…

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/woman-charges-through-wa-border-rams-police/100401858

Good grief!

One wonders how some people actually survive. A 47 year-old!

According to the Doherty Institute, the speed you’re going when you crash doesn’t affect the modelling.

Whether you crash at 3 km/h or you crash at 80 km/h, you will still damage your vehicle,” Professor Lewin said.

“At the moment there really is no difference with how the model predicted outcomes.”

She also acknowledged more damage would be taken if crashing while speed was still high

chuckle

further, an interpretation from a undeposed source that wanted to remain unanimous stated more airbags reduce kinetic energy, and that speed became irrelevant once you had enough airbags

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/24/ending-lockdowns-with-80-vaccinated-could-cause-25000-australian-deaths-new-modelling-suggests

Ending restrictions with 80% vaccinated could cause 25,000 Australian deaths, new modelling suggests
Research warns there could be 10 times the number of deaths referenced in the Doherty Institute report which underpins four-phase reopening plan
Ending lockdowns and other public health restrictions once 80% of the adult population is vaccinated could result in 25,000 deaths in total and 270,000 cases of long Covid, new modelling warns.

The work by researchers at three leading Australian universities predicts more than 10 times as many deaths as the Doherty Institute modelling that underpins the national four-phase roadmap. That plan was adopted by national cabinet in July but is subject to different interpretations by state and territory leaders.

The Doherty modelling looked at the number of deaths in the first 180 days of reopening at the 70% and 80% thresholds that lead to phase B and C – when lockdowns would be “less likely” and then “highly targeted”.

The latest research models total cumulative deaths over a longer time frame during phase D of the national plan – when no restrictions remain.

Dr Zoë Hyde, an epidemiologist and co-author from the University of Western Australia, warned the new modelling – which is yet to be peer-reviewed – showed it was “simply too dangerous to treat Covid-19 like the flu” and that Australia should reach higher vaccination rates before opening up.

Hyde and co-authors Prof Quentin Grafton of the Australian National University and Prof Tom Kompas of the University of Melbourne, both economists, called for a 90% vaccination rate among all Australians, including children, and a 95% rate for vulnerable populations, including elderly people and Indigenous Australians.

In Australia 1.57 million people moved into the “fully vaccinated” category in the last two weeks.

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

One wonders how some people actually survive. A 47 year-old!

According to the Doherty Institute, the speed you’re going when you crash doesn’t affect the modelling.

Whether you crash at 3 km/h or you crash at 80 km/h, you will still damage your vehicle,” Professor Lewin said.

“At the moment there really is no difference with how the model predicted outcomes.”

She also acknowledged more damage would be taken if crashing while speed was still high

chuckle

further, an interpretation from a undeposed source that wanted to remain unanimous stated more airbags reduce kinetic energy, and that speed became irrelevant once you had enough airbags

LOL

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/24/ending-lockdowns-with-80-vaccinated-could-cause-25000-australian-deaths-new-modelling-suggests

Ending restrictions with 80% vaccinated could cause 25,000 Australian deaths, new modelling suggests
Research warns there could be 10 times the number of deaths referenced in the Doherty Institute report which underpins four-phase reopening plan
Ending lockdowns and other public health restrictions once 80% of the adult population is vaccinated could result in 25,000 deaths in total and 270,000 cases of long Covid, new modelling warns.

The work by researchers at three leading Australian universities predicts more than 10 times as many deaths as the Doherty Institute modelling that underpins the national four-phase roadmap. That plan was adopted by national cabinet in July but is subject to different interpretations by state and territory leaders.

The Doherty modelling looked at the number of deaths in the first 180 days of reopening at the 70% and 80% thresholds that lead to phase B and C – when lockdowns would be “less likely” and then “highly targeted”.

The latest research models total cumulative deaths over a longer time frame during phase D of the national plan – when no restrictions remain.

Dr Zoë Hyde, an epidemiologist and co-author from the University of Western Australia, warned the new modelling – which is yet to be peer-reviewed – showed it was “simply too dangerous to treat Covid-19 like the flu” and that Australia should reach higher vaccination rates before opening up.

Hyde and co-authors Prof Quentin Grafton of the Australian National University and Prof Tom Kompas of the University of Melbourne, both economists, called for a 90% vaccination rate among all Australians, including children, and a 95% rate for vulnerable populations, including elderly people and Indigenous Australians.

He’s trying to kill us now but will it affect his preferred Prime minister position?

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/24/ending-lockdowns-with-80-vaccinated-could-cause-25000-australian-deaths-new-modelling-suggests

Ending restrictions with 80% vaccinated could cause 25,000 Australian deaths, new modelling suggests
Research warns there could be 10 times the number of deaths referenced in the Doherty Institute report which underpins four-phase reopening plan
Ending lockdowns and other public health restrictions once 80% of the adult population is vaccinated could result in 25,000 deaths in total and 270,000 cases of long Covid, new modelling warns.

The work by researchers at three leading Australian universities predicts more than 10 times as many deaths as the Doherty Institute modelling that underpins the national four-phase roadmap. That plan was adopted by national cabinet in July but is subject to different interpretations by state and territory leaders.

The Doherty modelling looked at the number of deaths in the first 180 days of reopening at the 70% and 80% thresholds that lead to phase B and C – when lockdowns would be “less likely” and then “highly targeted”.

The latest research models total cumulative deaths over a longer time frame during phase D of the national plan – when no restrictions remain.

Dr Zoë Hyde, an epidemiologist and co-author from the University of Western Australia, warned the new modelling – which is yet to be peer-reviewed – showed it was “simply too dangerous to treat Covid-19 like the flu” and that Australia should reach higher vaccination rates before opening up.

Hyde and co-authors Prof Quentin Grafton of the Australian National University and Prof Tom Kompas of the University of Melbourne, both economists, called for a 90% vaccination rate among all Australians, including children, and a 95% rate for vulnerable populations, including elderly people and Indigenous Australians.

He’s trying to kill us now but will it affect his preferred Prime minister position?

I should note that the UWA paper has not been peer-reviewed, and is based on the work of fewer people than the Doherty Institute paper. I have not read the UWA paper yet.

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/24/ending-lockdowns-with-80-vaccinated-could-cause-25000-australian-deaths-new-modelling-suggests

Ending restrictions with 80% vaccinated could cause 25,000 Australian deaths, new modelling suggests
Research warns there could be 10 times the number of deaths referenced in the Doherty Institute report which underpins four-phase reopening plan
Ending lockdowns and other public health restrictions once 80% of the adult population is vaccinated could result in 25,000 deaths in total and 270,000 cases of long Covid, new modelling warns.

The work by researchers at three leading Australian universities predicts more than 10 times as many deaths as the Doherty Institute modelling that underpins the national four-phase roadmap. That plan was adopted by national cabinet in July but is subject to different interpretations by state and territory leaders.

The Doherty modelling looked at the number of deaths in the first 180 days of reopening at the 70% and 80% thresholds that lead to phase B and C – when lockdowns would be “less likely” and then “highly targeted”.

The latest research models total cumulative deaths over a longer time frame during phase D of the national plan – when no restrictions remain.

Dr Zoë Hyde, an epidemiologist and co-author from the University of Western Australia, warned the new modelling – which is yet to be peer-reviewed – showed it was “simply too dangerous to treat Covid-19 like the flu” and that Australia should reach higher vaccination rates before opening up.

Hyde and co-authors Prof Quentin Grafton of the Australian National University and Prof Tom Kompas of the University of Melbourne, both economists, called for a 90% vaccination rate among all Australians, including children, and a 95% rate for vulnerable populations, including elderly people and Indigenous Australians.

He’s trying to kill us now but will it affect his preferred Prime minister position?

I should note that the UWA paper has not been peer-reviewed, and is based on the work of fewer people than the Doherty Institute paper. I have not read the UWA paper yet.

Yeah, I wouldn’t be throwing stones at ScoMo over this one, he’s taking the best advice as far as he’s aware.

sibeen said:

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

He’s trying to kill us now but will it affect his preferred Prime minister position?

I should note that the UWA paper has not been peer-reviewed, and is based on the work of fewer people than the Doherty Institute paper. I have not read the UWA paper yet.

Yeah, I wouldn’t be throwing stones at ScoMo over this one, he’s taking the best advice as far as he’s aware.

Rupert?

sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

I should note that the UWA paper has not been peer-reviewed, and is based on the work of fewer people than the Doherty Institute paper. I have not read the UWA paper yet.

Yeah, I wouldn’t be throwing stones at ScoMo over this one, he’s taking the best advice as far as he’s aware.

Rupert?

The figures are dodgy in that only those who can be vaxxed at the point count. The young ones and kiddies aren’t counted. It’s like Budget speak.

sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

I should note that the UWA paper has not been peer-reviewed, and is based on the work of fewer people than the Doherty Institute paper. I have not read the UWA paper yet.

Yeah, I wouldn’t be throwing stones at ScoMo over this one, he’s taking the best advice as far as he’s aware.

Rupert?

The Doherty Institute.

While there were no fatalities recorded in the 24 hours to 8:00pm yesterday, NSW Health later announced a woman in her 30s who had COVID-19 had died at her home in Emerton, Western Sydney.

The death is being investigated by the Western Sydney Local Health District and has been referred to the NSW Coroner.

The woman is the 75th person to die since the current outbreak in NSW began in June.

dv said:

In Australia 1.57 million people moved into the “fully vaccinated” category in the last two weeks.

1,570,001 :)

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

In Australia 1.57 million people moved into the “fully vaccinated” category in the last two weeks.

1,570,001 :)

when do we start discounting them due to declining immunity

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

In Australia 1.57 million people moved into the “fully vaccinated” category in the last two weeks.

1,570,001 :)

1,570,003 coming on Friday.

SWMBO + myself.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

In Australia 1.57 million people moved into the “fully vaccinated” category in the last two weeks.

1,570,001 :)

LOL

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

In Australia 1.57 million people moved into the “fully vaccinated” category in the last two weeks.

1,570,001 :)

I’ll be there on the 23rd of next month.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

In Australia 1.57 million people moved into the “fully vaccinated” category in the last two weeks.

1,570,001 :)

No I already counted you, it would otherwise have been 1 569 999.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

In Australia 1.57 million people moved into the “fully vaccinated” category in the last two weeks.

1,570,001 :)

No I already counted you, it would otherwise have been 1 569 999.

You must have some pretty good monitoring resources than.

I only had it done at 10:00 am today.

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

In Australia 1.57 million people moved into the “fully vaccinated” category in the last two weeks.

1,570,001 :)

when do we start discounting them due to declining immunity

The sooner you drink the forever Covid kool aid, the better you’ll feel.

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

In Australia 1.57 million people moved into the “fully vaccinated” category in the last two weeks.

1,570,001 :)

I’ll be there on the 23rd of next month.

Mrs V and I will be join that mob on 10th of September.

poikilotherm said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

1,570,001 :)

when do we start discounting them due to declining immunity

The sooner you drink the forever Covid kool aid, the better you’ll feel.

Here just take this little red pill¡

SCIENCE said:

poikilotherm said:

SCIENCE said:

when do we start discounting them due to declining immunity

The sooner you drink the forever Covid kool aid, the better you’ll feel.

Here just take this little red pill¡

Not yet but Merck are working on it.

dv said:

In Australia 1.57 million people moved into the “fully vaccinated” category in the last two weeks.

Mr buffy will join that cohort tomorrow.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

1,570,001 :)

No I already counted you, it would otherwise have been 1 569 999.

You must have some pretty good monitoring resources than.

I only had it done at 10:00 am today.

Any side affects, back affects?

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

1,570,001 :)

I’ll be there on the 23rd of next month.

Mrs V and I will be join that mob on 10th of September.

The “fully vaccinated” group should be picking up quickly now as all of us oldies who started at the beginning of the wave roll over into the finish. Who is going to take the credit for that?

and the disease is at Beckom. That’s like around 100km away.

buffy said:

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

I’ll be there on the 23rd of next month.

Mrs V and I will be join that mob on 10th of September.

The “fully vaccinated” group should be picking up quickly now as all of us oldies who started at the beginning of the wave roll over into the finish. Who is going to take the credit for that?

Those of us who moved early? At least we got out of the way before the rush started.

Alabama has the lowest vaccination rate in the USA.

I don’t know what it is but people who are very concerned about what might be in the vaccine seem pretty gung-ho about putting pretty much any other substance in their body.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/23/fda-horse-message-ivermectin-covid-coronavirus

‘You are not a horse’: FDA tells Americans stop taking dewormer for Covid
Agency issues message after misinformation about ivermectin, a medicine used to deworm livestock, spreads on social media

Ahead of full US authorisation of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine, the federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) had a simple message for Americans contemplating using ivermectin, a medicine used to deworm livestock, instead of getting a Covid shot.

“You are not a horse,” it said. “You are not a cow. Seriously, y’all. Stop it.”

As with other purported alternative treatments for Covid-19, misinformation about ivermectin has spread on social media and through rightwing media and politicians.

In July, Bret Weinstein, an evolutionary biologist, told Fox News host Tucker Carlson: “ ivermectin is what those of us who have looked at the evidence think it is … the debate about the vaccines would be over by definition.”

https://www.cbs42.com/news/health/coronavirus/calls-in-alabama-over-ivermectin-poisoning-on-track-to-nearly-triple-in-2021-poison-center-says/

Calls in Alabama over ivermectin poisoning on track to nearly triple in 2021, poison center says

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

Mrs V and I will be join that mob on 10th of September.

The “fully vaccinated” group should be picking up quickly now as all of us oldies who started at the beginning of the wave roll over into the finish. Who is going to take the credit for that?

Those of us who moved early? At least we got out of the way before the rush started.

how’s the 30% residual effectiveness going though

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

No I already counted you, it would otherwise have been 1 569 999.

You must have some pretty good monitoring resources than.

I only had it done at 10:00 am today.

Any side affects, back affects?

Not even any front effects so far.

birth defects

buffy said:

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

I’ll be there on the 23rd of next month.

Mrs V and I will be join that mob on 10th of September.

The “fully vaccinated” group should be picking up quickly now as all of us oldies who started at the beginning of the wave roll over into the finish. Who is going to take the credit for that?

Boomers.

:)

dv said:

Alabama has the lowest vaccination rate in the USA.

I don’t know what it is but people who are very concerned about what might be in the vaccine seem pretty gung-ho about putting pretty much any other substance in their body.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/23/fda-horse-message-ivermectin-covid-coronavirus

‘You are not a horse’: FDA tells Americans stop taking dewormer for Covid
Agency issues message after misinformation about ivermectin, a medicine used to deworm livestock, spreads on social media

Ahead of full US authorisation of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine, the federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) had a simple message for Americans contemplating using ivermectin, a medicine used to deworm livestock, instead of getting a Covid shot.

“You are not a horse,” it said. “You are not a cow. Seriously, y’all. Stop it.”

As with other purported alternative treatments for Covid-19, misinformation about ivermectin has spread on social media and through rightwing media and politicians.

In July, Bret Weinstein, an evolutionary biologist, told Fox News host Tucker Carlson: “ ivermectin is what those of us who have looked at the evidence think it is … the debate about the vaccines would be over by definition.”

https://www.cbs42.com/news/health/coronavirus/calls-in-alabama-over-ivermectin-poisoning-on-track-to-nearly-triple-in-2021-poison-center-says/

Calls in Alabama over ivermectin poisoning on track to nearly triple in 2021, poison center says

More Covidiots.

Michael V said:

dv said:

Calls in Alabama over ivermectin poisoning on track to nearly triple in 2021, poison center says

More Covidiots.

Well, they’re dumber than barnyard animals, so we shouldn’t be surprised that they think they can use the same medicines.

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

Calls in Alabama over ivermectin poisoning on track to nearly triple in 2021, poison center says

More Covidiots.

Well, they’re dumber than barnyard animals, so we shouldn’t be surprised that they think they can use the same medicines.

Nods.

dv said:

In Australia 1.57 million people moved into the “fully vaccinated” category in the last two weeks.

Including moi and Lord Mutant.

My sister is still unable to schedule a booking for Pfizer, her GP has advised against AZ.

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

In Australia 1.57 million people moved into the “fully vaccinated” category in the last two weeks.

Including moi and Lord Mutant.

My sister is still unable to schedule a booking for Pfizer, her GP has advised against AZ.

Mrs poik is due for pfizzing in the school hols.

Here’s some cheery news presented in an anecdote:

My sister’s boss is immunocompromised. He was having a chat to his haematologist who is on the Australian board of Pfizer or something. The doc said Covid is here to stay, most people will get it, it’s luck who comes out the other side, vaccination is your best bet but at the moment mutations are happening too fast for current vaccines to keep up. So… good luck.

poikilotherm said:

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

In Australia 1.57 million people moved into the “fully vaccinated” category in the last two weeks.

Including moi and Lord Mutant.

My sister is still unable to schedule a booking for Pfizer, her GP has advised against AZ.

Mrs poik is due for pfizzing in the school hols.

My first dose gave me a sore arm for a couple days. The 2nd dose gave me a bloody sore arm along with dizziness for about 18 hours. 5G seems to be working, I got the Pfizer boob job, and so far my uterus hasn’t fallen out.

Divine Angel said:

Here’s some cheery news presented in an anecdote:

My sister’s boss is immunocompromised. He was having a chat to his haematologist who is on the Australian board of Pfizer or something. The doc said Covid is here to stay, most people will get it, it’s luck who comes out the other side, vaccination is your best bet but at the moment mutations are happening too fast for current vaccines to keep up. So… good luck.

That’s viruses for you. Doing what viruses do.

Divine Angel said:

Here’s some cheery news presented in an anecdote:

My sister’s boss is immunocompromised. He was having a chat to his haematologist who is on the Australian board of Pfizer or something. The doc said Covid is here to stay, most people will get it, it’s luck who comes out the other side, vaccination is your best bet but at the moment mutations are happening too fast for current vaccines to keep up. So… good luck.

I think that is why we have to seriously get our vax shit together. It seems like quite a while since Victoria said they wanted to build a new lab that can make pfizer/moderna type vaccines. We should be building. And head hunting.

I think we can be looking at booster shots for years too.

sarahs mum said:

Divine Angel said:

Here’s some cheery news presented in an anecdote:

My sister’s boss is immunocompromised. He was having a chat to his haematologist who is on the Australian board of Pfizer or something. The doc said Covid is here to stay, most people will get it, it’s luck who comes out the other side, vaccination is your best bet but at the moment mutations are happening too fast for current vaccines to keep up. So… good luck.

I think that is why we have to seriously get our vax shit together. It seems like quite a while since Victoria said they wanted to build a new lab that can make pfizer/moderna type vaccines. We should be building. And head hunting.

I think we can be looking at booster shots for years too.

It’s going to take at least a couple of years for that facility to be built.

sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

Divine Angel said:

Here’s some cheery news presented in an anecdote:

My sister’s boss is immunocompromised. He was having a chat to his haematologist who is on the Australian board of Pfizer or something. The doc said Covid is here to stay, most people will get it, it’s luck who comes out the other side, vaccination is your best bet but at the moment mutations are happening too fast for current vaccines to keep up. So… good luck.

I think that is why we have to seriously get our vax shit together. It seems like quite a while since Victoria said they wanted to build a new lab that can make pfizer/moderna type vaccines. We should be building. And head hunting.

I think we can be looking at booster shots for years too.

It’s going to take at least a couple of years for that facility to be built.

Or longer.

Divine Angel said:

Here’s some cheery news presented in an anecdote:

My sister’s boss is immunocompromised. He was having a chat to his haematologist who is on the Australian board of Pfizer or something. The doc said Covid is here to stay, most people will get it, it’s luck who comes out the other side, vaccination is your best bet but at the moment mutations are happening too fast for current vaccines to keep up. So… good luck.

Put on your boots, put on your tin hat, walk towards the sound of gunfire, best of luck, chum.

buffy said:

Divine Angel said:

Here’s some cheery news presented in an anecdote:

My sister’s boss is immunocompromised. He was having a chat to his haematologist who is on the Australian board of Pfizer or something. The doc said Covid is here to stay, most people will get it, it’s luck who comes out the other side, vaccination is your best bet but at the moment mutations are happening too fast for current vaccines to keep up. So… good luck.

That’s viruses for you. Doing what viruses do.

Yes, unfortunately.

The total number of community cases in Auckland is now 137 and 11 in Wellington.

dv said:

:)

dv said:

It’s actually human descabier and dewormer too.

poikilotherm said:

dv said:

It’s actually human descabier and dewormer too.

So it’s not necessarily dangerous then ?

poikilotherm said:

The total number of community cases in Auckland is now 137 and 11 in Wellington.

We Love Gutless

…

and Marketing

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/report-finds-federal-government-failings-ruby-princess-covid-19/100380948

dv said:

buffy said:

I hadn’t looked at Australia’s excess deaths stats for a couple of months.

Key statistics

45,407 deaths occurred by 30 April 2021 and were registered by 30 June.

Counts of deaths were above historical averages for each month of 2021.

Age standardised death rates for dementia are lower in 2021 than 2020.

All the details here:

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/jan-2020-apr-2021

Interesting

so is it

lockdown is good for dementia

COVID-19 is even better for dementia

They’re Lying About Everything And Faking Numbers

CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA

¿

Remember back when ZeroCOVID and masks weren’t even necessary?

Nah, fuck that, you get Gutless Binchicken and BOOM ForeverCOVID™ for the win¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/masks-and-contact-tracing-still-needed-at-80pc-vaccination/100403058

Dr Chant said although the Delta variant was throwing curve balls, the worse thing now would be another more dangerous COVID-19 variant. “We’ve got the Delta variant. God help us if we have another variant.” Raina MacIntyre, head of biosecurity at the Kirby Institute and an expert in infectious diseases, agreed there would not be complete freedom at 80 per cent vaccination.

God helps those who helps themselves eh¿

She said protecting health care workers would be critical when restrictions were lifted, including giving them N95s masks. “They should all have fit-tested N95s and a third dose booster vaccine as a priority,” she said. “There is a lot we can do to protect health workers, the health system, the community and children if opening up at the current proposed levels.”

Maybe someone could manufacture adequate supplies for N95+ masks and everyone could access those if they want to not catch or spread airborne disease, and then without otherwise even trying, you’d end up eliminating some of them and BOOM ZeroCOVID back for True Freedom™ again.

However, Dr de Silva believes it won’t be safe to completely re-open and lift all health measures until 95 per cent of Australians are protected. “[This] means some degree of public health restrictions must be enforced until 95 per cent,” he said.

Nah, fuck all that too, Gutless wants Freedom so we should go the way of the USSA and make it so that the moment they learn how to lie about being vaccinated, they can stop wearing masks, that worked out pretty well¡

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

dv said:

It’s actually human descabier and dewormer too.

So it’s not necessarily dangerous then ?

No. See Stromectol.

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

It’s actually human descabier and dewormer too.

So it’s not necessarily dangerous then ?

No. See Stromectol.

so are all those calls to poisons information lines just bullshit

SCIENCE said:

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So it’s not necessarily dangerous then ?

No. See Stromectol.

so are all those calls to poisons information lines just bullshit

FIIK.

sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

Divine Angel said:

Here’s some cheery news presented in an anecdote:

My sister’s boss is immunocompromised. He was having a chat to his haematologist who is on the Australian board of Pfizer or something. The doc said Covid is here to stay, most people will get it, it’s luck who comes out the other side, vaccination is your best bet but at the moment mutations are happening too fast for current vaccines to keep up. So… good luck.

I think that is why we have to seriously get our vax shit together. It seems like quite a while since Victoria said they wanted to build a new lab that can make pfizer/moderna type vaccines. We should be building. And head hunting.

I think we can be looking at booster shots for years too.

It’s going to take at least a couple of years for that facility to be built.

There is one advantage of being a dictatorship.

China builds hospital in 5 days

We are still waiting for a Federal quarantine facility after 18 months.

Kingy said:

sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

I think that is why we have to seriously get our vax shit together. It seems like quite a while since Victoria said they wanted to build a new lab that can make pfizer/moderna type vaccines. We should be building. And head hunting.

I think we can be looking at booster shots for years too.

It’s going to take at least a couple of years for that facility to be built.

There is one advantage of being a dictatorship.

China builds hospital in 5 days

We are still waiting for a Federal quarantine facility after 18 months.

is dictatorship the correct word, surely there are more than one people in the party

SCIENCE said:

Kingy said:

sibeen said:

It’s going to take at least a couple of years for that facility to be built.

There is one advantage of being a dictatorship.

China builds hospital in 5 days

We are still waiting for a Federal quarantine facility after 18 months.

is dictatorship the correct word, surely there are more than one people in the party

If the PRC is not a dictatorship is any country?

SCIENCE said:

Kingy said:

sibeen said:

It’s going to take at least a couple of years for that facility to be built.

There is one advantage of being a dictatorship.

China builds hospital in 5 days

We are still waiting for a Federal quarantine facility after 18 months.

is dictatorship the correct word, surely there are more than one people in the party

One of them has decided to install himself as leader for life. I’m not sure what else you would call it.

Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

Kingy said:

There is one advantage of being a dictatorship.

China builds hospital in 5 days

We are still waiting for a Federal quarantine facility after 18 months.

is dictatorship the correct word, surely there are more than one people in the party

If the PRC is not a dictatorship is any country?

sovereign citizens

anyway seeing as we’re backing out to the global dictator perspective again and in other news there seems to be Paralympic excitement we leave you with this fun and games before we head out to troll the enforcers on the roads

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/08/australia-japan-report-record-covid-19-rises

not looking so good there in offshore Eastern Manchukuo at all

Speedy said:

poikilotherm said:

“Orange’s active COVID case numbers will rise on Wednesday after 7-Eleven confirmed members of their team in Orange had tested positive to the virus. “

Only a mildly busy servo…

:(

It might not have much to do with the type of business, but rather that, AFAICT, people at work do not practice the usual Covid rules with their colleagues as they do when customers are present.

we suspect you may be right, treat as equivalent to household

Japan’s on its fifth wave. I hadn’t realised that.

Australia and Japan both have high new vaccination rates. Australia may have the sixth highest daily new vaccination rate in the world, but perhaps lower down the chart because other countries such as Panama and Cambodia haven’t updated their vaccination data lately.

mollwollfumble said:

Japan’s on its fifth wave. I hadn’t realised that.

Australia and Japan both have high new vaccination rates. Australia may have the sixth highest daily new vaccination rate in the world, but perhaps lower down the chart because other countries such as Panama and Cambodia haven’t updated their vaccination data lately.

Are they starting another deaths peak, do you think?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/japan/

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

Japan’s on its fifth wave. I hadn’t realised that.

Australia and Japan both have high new vaccination rates. Australia may have the sixth highest daily new vaccination rate in the world, but perhaps lower down the chart because other countries such as Panama and Cambodia haven’t updated their vaccination data lately.

Are they starting another deaths peak, do you think?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/japan/

Looks like it, about a ten day delay between cases and deaths in Japan.

mollwollfumble said:

Japan’s on its fifth wave. I hadn’t realised that.

Australia and Japan both have high new vaccination rates. Australia may have the sixth highest daily new vaccination rate in the world, but perhaps lower down the chart because other countries such as Panama and Cambodia haven’t updated their vaccination data lately.

at a quick glance the line representing australia in that top graph only appears not too bad (not as bad as it could look) because of all states and territories not-NSW maintaining very low or zero covid

if you treated the states as radically different (which they are radically different to NSW), and adjusted the line to be for just NSW, it looks not so pretty

but I guess the joy of the federated business is you can dilute an unpretty into the bigger thing

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/woman-charges-through-wa-border-rams-police/100401858

A 47-year-old woman has been remanded in custody to serve 14 days’ quarantine after allegedly speeding through a checkpoint at Western Australia’s border with South Australia and ramming a police car.

Just after 10 o’clock Monday morning, Brenda Elena Bleazard allegedly led police on a dramatic high-speed chase while driving a Volvo wagon and towing a caravan.

Police said she reversed her caravan at speed into a police car, tried to run over an officer who was approaching her car on foot and threw a large jar full of petrol at an officer before trying to light it on fire.

Ms Bleazard, of no fixed address, appeared in the Kalgoorlie Magistrate’s Court on Tuesday via audiolink from the lock-up at Eucla police station.

She declined help from Legal Aid WA and represented herself in court. She was not required to enter a plea.

In an exchange with the magistrate, Ms Bleazard requested an interpreter while speaking perfect English.

“I need an interpreter … I don’t understand what you’re talking about,” she said.

Magistrate Andrew Matthews explained she was facing eight charges, including two counts of reckless driving to escape pursuit by police.

She replied by asking: “Can I charge the police?”

While the charges were read to her, Ms Bleazard repeatedly interrupted Magistrate Matthews and told him she did not believe in the judicial system and demanded to be released so she could “immigrate overseas”.

The officer in charge of Eucla police station, Senior Sergeant Russell Chamberlain, could be heard on the audiolink twice trying to get Ms Bleazard to cooperate.

“You need to show him a bit of respect,” he said, referring to Ms Bleazard’s attitude towards the magistrate.

Magistrate Matthews did not consider a bail application, saying he had concerns about Ms Bleazard’s ability to comply with any conditions imposed by the court.

She will be in quarantine — most likely at Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison — until September 6.

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/woman-charges-through-wa-border-rams-police/100401858

A 47-year-old woman has been remanded in custody to serve 14 days’ quarantine after allegedly speeding through a checkpoint at Western Australia’s border with South Australia and ramming a police car.

Just after 10 o’clock Monday morning, Brenda Elena Bleazard allegedly led police on a dramatic high-speed chase while driving a Volvo wagon and towing a caravan.

Police said she reversed her caravan at speed into a police car, tried to run over an officer who was approaching her car on foot and threw a large jar full of petrol at an officer before trying to light it on fire.

Ms Bleazard, of no fixed address, appeared in the Kalgoorlie Magistrate’s Court on Tuesday via audiolink from the lock-up at Eucla police station.

She declined help from Legal Aid WA and represented herself in court. She was not required to enter a plea.

In an exchange with the magistrate, Ms Bleazard requested an interpreter while speaking perfect English.

“I need an interpreter … I don’t understand what you’re talking about,” she said.

Magistrate Andrew Matthews explained she was facing eight charges, including two counts of reckless driving to escape pursuit by police.

She replied by asking: “Can I charge the police?”

While the charges were read to her, Ms Bleazard repeatedly interrupted Magistrate Matthews and told him she did not believe in the judicial system and demanded to be released so she could “immigrate overseas”.

The officer in charge of Eucla police station, Senior Sergeant Russell Chamberlain, could be heard on the audiolink twice trying to get Ms Bleazard to cooperate.

“You need to show him a bit of respect,” he said, referring to Ms Bleazard’s attitude towards the magistrate.

Magistrate Matthews did not consider a bail application, saying he had concerns about Ms Bleazard’s ability to comply with any conditions imposed by the court.

She will be in quarantine — most likely at Eastern Goldfields Regional Prison — until September 6.

She’s doing a good job of a nutter’s defence.

transition said:

mollwollfumble said:

Japan’s on its fifth wave. I hadn’t realised that.

Australia and Japan both have high new vaccination rates. Australia may have the sixth highest daily new vaccination rate in the world, but perhaps lower down the chart because other countries such as Panama and Cambodia haven’t updated their vaccination data lately.

at a quick glance the line representing australia in that top graph only appears not too bad (not as bad as it could look) because of all states and territories not-NSW maintaining very low or zero covid

if you treated the states as radically different (which they are radically different to NSW), and adjusted the line to be for just NSW, it looks not so pretty

but I guess the joy of the federated business is you can dilute an unpretty into the bigger thing

so radically different to be incomparable, and that the states actually function well when being radically different is the enemy of the powers of consensus and convergent reality

and I saw something nasty on the TV tonight, might have been on the broadcaster, i’d just woken and was in the twilight state, only fleetingly saw and heard it, i’m a bit sensitive at those times, but it didn’t sound favorable to hospitals in the crisis zone. I’d need go back and watch it, properly to be sure, I could be wrong

which is interesting, given the Dan is talking about bringing nurses in the speak about the previous experience in hospitals, as a prophylactic caution about social license to let whatever go wild, social immunity i’ll say, that’s the way I see it anyway

i’m still recovering from the hazard’s freudian slip the other day and saying vote instead of vaccine, granted it was in the following words vote with their feet, or whatever, still i’m calling it a freudian slip

i’ve had the impression hospitals are in some way this time around the enemy, wondering why

perhaps it is that the social construction of reality is not so powerful in those places, they deal with biology, and there are privacy things, perhaps the people in them have a developed working concept of privacy, many of them, and ethical commitments that way

whatever, i’ll make something up, it’s a work in progress

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/politics/australian-politics/2021/08/25/pascoe-gladys-berejiklian-promises/

Bogsnorkler said:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/politics/australian-politics/2021/08/25/pascoe-gladys-berejiklian-promises/

Still with the “we are doing it harder”. Or maybe not…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/gladys-berejiklian-sydney-lockdown-harshest-fact-check/100390380

Pardon me as a Victorian (and a regional who hasn’t done the really hard stuff that Melbourne has done), but she talks a lot of rubbish.

I read that Llamas might be coming to our rescue.

Bogsnorkler said:

I read that Llamas might be coming to our rescue.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/science/2021/08/24/llama-antibodies-blunt-covid-19-variations/

Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I read that Llamas might be coming to our rescue.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/science/2021/08/24/llama-antibodies-blunt-covid-19-variations/

I suppose that’s better than Pangolins?

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

I read that Llamas might be coming to our rescue.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/science/2021/08/24/llama-antibodies-blunt-covid-19-variations/

I suppose that’s better than Pangolins?

¿ those the same ones that are lipid soluble and found in elapidae ?

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/08/24/the-croods-scott-morrison-covid/

the fuck

Ms Palaszczuk said Queensland’s hotel quarantine system was at capacity and said from noon today hotel quarantine arrivals would be paused for two weeks. People with compassionate exemptions and medical exemptions are not included in this, she said, but people who are relocating from other states will need to wait.

“No one currently in a declared hotspot will be permitted to enter Queensland’s hotel quarantine for two weeks, except for those with exemptions such as compassionate reasons. New arrivals and Queensland residents will have to reapply for a border pass,” she said in a statement. “We simply do not have any room at the moment. Not only are our hotels stretched, but our staff are stretched. We don’t want to see Delta coming into our communities.”

imagine building true quarantine facilities when experts advised to

SCIENCE said:

the fuck

Ms Palaszczuk said Queensland’s hotel quarantine system was at capacity and said from noon today hotel quarantine arrivals would be paused for two weeks. People with compassionate exemptions and medical exemptions are not included in this, she said, but people who are relocating from other states will need to wait.

“No one currently in a declared hotspot will be permitted to enter Queensland’s hotel quarantine for two weeks, except for those with exemptions such as compassionate reasons. New arrivals and Queensland residents will have to reapply for a border pass,” she said in a statement. “We simply do not have any room at the moment. Not only are our hotels stretched, but our staff are stretched. We don’t want to see Delta coming into our communities.”

imagine building true quarantine facilities when experts advised to

We wish!

SCIENCE said:

imagine building true quarantine facilities when experts advised to

You don’t understand the implications.

If governments demonstrate that they can provide proper accommodation for large numbers of people who need to be quarantined, then people might begin to ask why they can’t do something about helping to provide more houses for the citizenry, and thereby ease the availability and affordability pressures in the housing market.

Hell, they may even ask why the government can’t provide shelter for the homeless, or for domestic violence victims.

Once you admit that you have a capability, people may ask you to continue to exercise it. Can of worms, that one.

NSW: 919 new cases, two deaths.

:(

Michael V said:

NSW: 919 new cases, two deaths.

:(

They are going for that thousand mark, aren’t they.

buffy said:

Michael V said:

NSW: 919 new cases, two deaths.

:(

They are going for that thousand mark, aren’t they.

I wonder whose advice Gladys actually pays attention to these days?

buffy said:

Michael V said:

NSW: 919 new cases, two deaths.

:(

They are going for that thousand mark, aren’t they.

HTF are that many catchin’ it, when everyone’s suppose ta be at home. Are they sure these mass testing spots aren’t giving it to everyone else in the queues?

Woodie said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

NSW: 919 new cases, two deaths.

:(

They are going for that thousand mark, aren’t they.

HTF are that many catchin’ it, when everyone’s suppose ta be at home. Are they sure these mass testing spots aren’t giving it to everyone else in the queues?

Once it’s out there, it’s out there. Gladys spent too long painting the stable door.

Woodie said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

NSW: 919 new cases, two deaths.

:(

They are going for that thousand mark, aren’t they.

HTF are that many catchin’ it, when everyone’s suppose ta be at home. Are they sure these mass testing spots aren’t giving it to everyone else in the queues?

the infringement notices are similarly high, which I suspect is a small proportion of but representative of the scale of non-compliance issues, of the prematurely vaccine-available-covid-and-other-things-liberated

the situation would be much much worse for NSW if the other states weren’t holding their ground, worse for all, everywhere across the country I might add

fortunate thing there are well-functional states

Woodie said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

NSW: 919 new cases, two deaths.

:(

They are going for that thousand mark, aren’t they.

HTF are that many catchin’ it, when everyone’s suppose ta be at home. Are they sure these mass testing spots aren’t giving it to everyone else in the queues?

It’s asymptomatic for longer than previous COVID strains and the lockdown effects will take longer to see because of this. Then again, NSW has been doing a lockdown without doing a lockdown…

poikilotherm said:

Woodie said:

buffy said:

They are going for that thousand mark, aren’t they.

HTF are that many catchin’ it, when everyone’s suppose ta be at home. Are they sure these mass testing spots aren’t giving it to everyone else in the queues?

It’s asymptomatic for longer than previous COVID strains and the lockdown effects will take longer to see because of this. Then again, NSW has been doing a lockdown without doing a lockdown…

I think you’ll find that technically, it is “Sparkling isolation”.

Dark Orange said:

poikilotherm said:

Woodie said:

HTF are that many catchin’ it, when everyone’s suppose ta be at home. Are they sure these mass testing spots aren’t giving it to everyone else in the queues?

It’s asymptomatic for longer than previous COVID strains and the lockdown effects will take longer to see because of this. Then again, NSW has been doing a lockdown without doing a lockdown…

I think you’ll find that technically, it is “Sparkling isolation”.

Nothin’ but gold in NSW.

poikilotherm said:

Woodie said:

buffy said:

They are going for that thousand mark, aren’t they.

HTF are that many catchin’ it, when everyone’s suppose ta be at home. Are they sure these mass testing spots aren’t giving it to everyone else in the queues?

It’s asymptomatic for longer than previous COVID strains and the lockdown effects will take longer to see because of this. Then again, NSW has been doing a lockdown without doing a lockdown…

Round my parts, you wouldn’t really know. Cuppla shops shut, and that’s about it. Town is as busy as any other time. Hard to find a park in the main street. First cuppla weeks of it was a bit different. Street about 1/3 full of parked cars. Not this week though, hey what but.

Woodie said:

poikilotherm said:

Woodie said:

HTF are that many catchin’ it, when everyone’s suppose ta be at home. Are they sure these mass testing spots aren’t giving it to everyone else in the queues?

It’s asymptomatic for longer than previous COVID strains and the lockdown effects will take longer to see because of this. Then again, NSW has been doing a lockdown without doing a lockdown…

Round my parts, you wouldn’t really know. Cuppla shops shut, and that’s about it. Town is as busy as any other time. Hard to find a park in the main street. First cuppla weeks of it was a bit different. Street about 1/3 full of parked cars. Not this week though, hey what but.

We asked how the bakery was going this morning. Vic regionals went back into full lockdown (but without a curfew) at 1.00pm on Saturday, notified at 11.00am on Saturday – so right in the middle of the lunch sitting for food places they had to throw everyone out. That bit could have been handled better). Over last year our bakery did well. A said that on Saturday they were run off their feet and cleared out of all food after the 11.00am announcement. C said this morning has been quiet after the tradie rush in the morning. We were there about 10.30am. I expect they will have the lunchtime tradie rush too. Mr buffy was in the main street of Hamilton around 9 this morning. He says it was a bit quiet. I’ll be supermarketing around 10.00am tomorrow after I see the dentist. But we don’t usually have really busy supermarkets anyway, compared to city ones.

buffy said:

Woodie said:

poikilotherm said:

It’s asymptomatic for longer than previous COVID strains and the lockdown effects will take longer to see because of this. Then again, NSW has been doing a lockdown without doing a lockdown…

Round my parts, you wouldn’t really know. Cuppla shops shut, and that’s about it. Town is as busy as any other time. Hard to find a park in the main street. First cuppla weeks of it was a bit different. Street about 1/3 full of parked cars. Not this week though, hey what but.

We asked how the bakery was going this morning. Vic regionals went back into full lockdown (but without a curfew) at 1.00pm on Saturday, notified at 11.00am on Saturday – so right in the middle of the lunch sitting for food places they had to throw everyone out. That bit could have been handled better). Over last year our bakery did well. A said that on Saturday they were run off their feet and cleared out of all food after the 11.00am announcement. C said this morning has been quiet after the tradie rush in the morning. We were there about 10.30am. I expect they will have the lunchtime tradie rush too. Mr buffy was in the main street of Hamilton around 9 this morning. He says it was a bit quiet. I’ll be supermarketing around 10.00am tomorrow after I see the dentist. But we don’t usually have really busy supermarkets anyway, compared to city ones.

Nice to see the number of vaccinations outnumbering the number of tests.

Tamb said:

Nice to see the number of vaccinations outnumbering the number of tests.

The fewer tests you do, the fewer cases you get.

Dark Orange said:

Tamb said:

Nice to see the number of vaccinations outnumbering the number of tests.

The fewer tests you do, the fewer cases you get.

The Trump defense.

Here’s one way to relieve uh, boredom, during lockdown.

https://youtu.be/mLvYWhdaJk4

Does the Covid vaccine help protect against non-Covid coronaviruses?

Divine Angel said:

Does the Covid vaccine help protect against non-Covid coronaviruses?

Dunno about coronaviruses, but there’s indications that those who get the vaccine are noticeably more intelligent and considerably less tiresome than those who refuse to get it.

Divine Angel said:

Does the Covid vaccine help protect against non-Covid coronaviruses?

straight answer:

it may, or it may not, depending on the vaccine.

See this story from January:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-01-20/covid-19-immune-system-common-cold-coronavirus-cross-protection/13056718

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

Does the Covid vaccine help protect against non-Covid coronaviruses?

Dunno about coronaviruses, but there’s indications that those who get the vaccine are noticeably more intelligent and considerably less tiresome than those who refuse to get it.

LOL

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

Does the Covid vaccine help protect against non-Covid coronaviruses?

straight answer:

it may, or it may not, depending on the vaccine.

See this story from January:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-01-20/covid-19-immune-system-common-cold-coronavirus-cross-protection/13056718

Ta. The answer seems to be “probably not, but we’re not sure, and it might depend on which coronavirus and how long after the vaccination you’re infected, or it might not work at all”.

Divine Angel said:

Does the Covid vaccine help protect against non-Covid coronaviruses?

Unlikely, as the infection mechanisms are different.

I’m concerned about Gladys’ easing of restrictions, due to be announced tomorrow or Friday.

Now is a great time for Qld to secede. We’re doing well. (Tbh I’m surprised the Indro cluster was quashed so effectively.)

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

Does the Covid vaccine help protect against non-Covid coronaviruses?

Dunno about coronaviruses, but there’s indications that those who get the vaccine are noticeably more intelligent and considerably less tiresome than those who refuse to get it.

It improves their driving skills as well.

Even for those who don’t drive.

The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

Does the Covid vaccine help protect against non-Covid coronaviruses?

Dunno about coronaviruses, but there’s indications that those who get the vaccine are noticeably more intelligent and considerably less tiresome than those who refuse to get it.

It improves their driving skills as well.

Even for those who don’t drive.

I noticed that it greatly improved my competence as a judge in a wide variety of sports during the Olympics.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/gladys-berejiklian-sydney-lockdown-harshest-fact-check/100390380

Pants on fire…

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

imagine building true quarantine facilities when experts advised to

You don’t understand the implications.

If governments demonstrate that they can provide proper accommodation for large numbers of people who need to be quarantined, then people might begin to ask why they can’t do something about helping to provide more houses for the citizenry, and thereby ease the availability and affordability pressures in the housing market.

Hell, they may even ask why the government can’t provide shelter for the homeless, or for domestic violence victims.

Once you admit that you have a capability, people may ask you to continue to exercise it. Can of worms, that one.

well there are certainly some expenditures that might expand, expansionist spending, creeping expansionist spending, and the thing about expansion it’s a bit like tummy fat you know as you age, there’s sort of a threshold thing, lots of people my age are exploring it every day

all around your intestines and organs starts to get extra fat around them, and the business starts to poke out with any overeating and bloat, gets quite uncomfortable, and hunger doesn’t seem to fade with the added fat, possibly quite the opposite, in fact it’s a bit like being pregnant perhaps, though i’ve never been pregnant, lot of my ancestors down the lady side did though, gave birth to boys also, in nearly equal numbers as it goes, same species and all so don’t expect it’s completely alien

anyway eating seems like a wonderful thing when you do it, especially if hungry, but I have my moments when I could continue to do it, perhaps do it all day, and as the tummy fat increases exercise becomes more effort, effort becomes more effort, even punishing

and some things are relative you know, if you want them to be, just yesterday I heard the PM mention Boris Johnson and it may have been in the next sentence he said it’s all relative, something like that, I thought hell this guy is genius, a fucken genius

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/queensland-nsw-border-protest-horseman-fined-7000/100405512

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/queensland-nsw-border-protest-horseman-fined-7000/100405512

Yeah. Good. Another Covidiot.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/blacktown-church-fines-for-people-who-broke-covid-rules/100406202

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1430374164674879491

U.S. COVID update: Number in ICU at highest level since pandemic began
- New cases: 149,090
- Average: 154,281 (-3,957)
- In hospital: 98,674 (+2,931)
- In ICU: 25,034 (+1,343)
- New deaths: 1,343

Bogsnorkler said:

Fair call.

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/queensland-nsw-border-protest-horseman-fined-7000/100405512

When the Lamb broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come.” I looked, and behold, a pale horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.

— Revelation 6:7–8

Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/queensland-nsw-border-protest-horseman-fined-7000/100405512

When the Lamb broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come.” I looked, and behold, a pale horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.

— Revelation 6:7–8

Why are two greek gods strutting around on horses in the bible?

poikilotherm said:

Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/queensland-nsw-border-protest-horseman-fined-7000/100405512

When the Lamb broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come.” I looked, and behold, a pale horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.

— Revelation 6:7–8

Why are two greek gods strutting around on horses in the bible?

it got lost in the translation from hebrew to greek.

Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/queensland-nsw-border-protest-horseman-fined-7000/100405512

When the Lamb broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come.” I looked, and behold, a pale horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.

— Revelation 6:7–8

And so it is written.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/queensland-nsw-border-protest-horseman-fined-7000/100405512

When the Lamb broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come.” I looked, and behold, a pale horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.

— Revelation 6:7–8

And so it is written.

The Ancients knew all right!!!

Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/queensland-nsw-border-protest-horseman-fined-7000/100405512

When the Lamb broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come.” I looked, and behold, a pale horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.

— Revelation 6:7–8

in the movie business, fancy that

transition said:

Bogsnorkler said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-25/queensland-nsw-border-protest-horseman-fined-7000/100405512

When the Lamb broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come.” I looked, and behold, a pale horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.

— Revelation 6:7–8

in the movie business, fancy that

I thought i’d seen that horse before.

captain_spalding said:

transition said:

Bogsnorkler said:

When the Lamb broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come.” I looked, and behold, a pale horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.

— Revelation 6:7–8

in the movie business, fancy that

I thought i’d seen that horse before.

Clint Eastwood rode it in Pale Rider. It has aged well.

Bogsnorkler said:

captain_spalding said:

transition said:

in the movie business, fancy that

I thought i’d seen that horse before.

Clint Eastwood rode it in Pale Rider. It has aged well.

Clint hasn’t.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Code%20Yellow%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

etc

SCIENCE said:

https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Code%20Yellow%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

etc

jesus.

SCIENCE said:

https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Code%20Yellow%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

etc

wonder where Cheryl kernot is living.

Anyway it does sound screwed.

Bogsnorkler said:

SCIENCE said:

https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Code%20Yellow%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

etc

jesus.

That appears to be very ungood.

Kingy said:

Bogsnorkler said:

SCIENCE said:

https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Code%20Yellow%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

etc

jesus.

That appears to be very ungood.

Medico friend just posted this x-ray of one of his ICU patients:

Dark Orange said:

Kingy said:

Bogsnorkler said:

jesus.

That appears to be very ungood.

Medico friend just posted this x-ray of one of his ICU patients:

Ummm… what are we looking for here? I am not familiar enough with chest X-rays to know a good one from a bad one.

party_pants said:

Dark Orange said:

Kingy said:

That appears to be very ungood.

Medico friend just posted this x-ray of one of his ICU patients:

Ummm… what are we looking for here? I am not familiar enough with chest X-rays to know a good one from a bad one.

should be more black bits.

Bogsnorkler said:

party_pants said:

Dark Orange said:

Medico friend just posted this x-ray of one of his ICU patients:

Ummm… what are we looking for here? I am not familiar enough with chest X-rays to know a good one from a bad one.

should be more black bits.

Scott Morrison backs vaccine passports, saying businesses have right to refuse entry
Amid resistance within the Coalition, PM says vaccination pass has ‘nothing to do with ideology’ and helps protect workers and clients

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/25/scott-morrison-backs-vaccine-passports-saying-businesses-have-right-to-refuse-entry?CMP=soc_567

Bogsnorkler said:

party_pants said:

Dark Orange said:

Medico friend just posted this x-ray of one of his ICU patients:

Ummm… what are we looking for here? I am not familiar enough with chest X-rays to know a good one from a bad one.

should be more black bits.

black bits that look like ribs.

dv said:

Scott Morrison backs vaccine passports, saying businesses have right to refuse entry
Amid resistance within the Coalition, PM says vaccination pass has ‘nothing to do with ideology’ and helps protect workers and clients

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/25/scott-morrison-backs-vaccine-passports-saying-businesses-have-right-to-refuse-entry?CMP=soc_567

That’ll piss off a few people.

:-)

Bogsnorkler said:

dv said:

Scott Morrison backs vaccine passports, saying businesses have right to refuse entry
Amid resistance within the Coalition, PM says vaccination pass has ‘nothing to do with ideology’ and helps protect workers and clients

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/25/scott-morrison-backs-vaccine-passports-saying-businesses-have-right-to-refuse-entry?CMP=soc_567

That’ll piss off a few people.

:-)

especially Niw Zialanders

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/23-08-2021/exclusive-poll-resounding-popular-support-for-decision-to-take-nz-into-strict-lockdown/

The decision to throw the country into the strictest available lockdown, and the government response more broadly to the pandemic, has widespread backing from the public, according to the latest in a series of nationally representative polls by Stickybeak for The Spinoff.

At 2.29pm on Tuesday August 17, the Ministry of Health revealed in an email that a community case of Covid-19 had been detected in Auckland. Three and a half hours later, the prime minister announced in a Beehive press conference that the entire country would go into the most severe available lockdown, under alert level four, at midnight.

Following weeks of spiralling catastrophe in New South Wales, where the response to a delta outbreak was soft and slow, there was immediate backing for the Ardern government decision to again go hard and early, from business groups and the opposition, albeit with criticisms about the pace of vaccination.

That backing is reflected in our nationally representative poll. In news that will disappoint international commentators who imagine New Zealanders being forcibly detained, wailing and screaming, in their own homes, a prodigious 84% supported the decision to move to alert level four. The vast majority of those, more than seven in 10 overall, expressed “strongly support” for the call. By way of comparison, 79% supported the decision to move Auckland to an alert level three lockdown in February 2021.

we mean

LOL

SCIENCE said:

we mean

LOL

https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab721/6356459

DeltaVariant infection was associated with more severe disease, higher viral load, and a longer duration of viral shedding.

bit noisy but you get the drift

dv said:

We Knew It¡ Public Health Isn’t About Ending A Pandemic¡ Public Health Is About Getting Everyone Mind Controlled Microchipped Vaccinated¡

dv said:

Unfortunately, what do you do? You have to triage, and NSW is the patient having a heart attack, epileptic fit and massive blood loss trauma on the hospital floor whilst the other states stand around the emergency department wearing a band-aid over their sore thumb. OK, Vic is standing there with his arm in a sling, but he’s a tough boy, he can handle it.

sibeen said:

dv said:

Unfortunately, what do you do?

You say “we’ve had to allocate more vaccines to NSW because of the poor management by the state government there. Vote them, and me, out.”

sibeen said:

dv said:

Unfortunately, what do you do? You have to triage, and NSW is the patient having a heart attack, epileptic fit and massive blood loss trauma on the hospital floor whilst the other states stand around the emergency department wearing a band-aid over their sore thumb. OK, Vic is standing there with his arm in a sling, but he’s a tough boy, he can handle it.

Spooking of NSW and VIC, remember how Dictator Dan and his sycophantic service mapped out their Big Lockdown™ with exact numerical targets which they nailed even down to the day¿ And then along came Gold Standard Gutless Such Genius and we still have all this reverberating “lockdown won’t help” “we did everything we could” “it was harsher than ever” bullshit, we suppose the vague predictions that things would keep getting worse were also upheld, such genius indeed.

dv said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

Unfortunately, what do you do?

You say “we’ve had to allocate more vaccines to NSW because of the poor management by the state government there. Vote them, and me, out.”

Hmmm, you’re not exactly a Dominic Cummings type, are you?

:0

I saw this on the ABC this morning and was rather surprised to see a photo of someone to appears to be about to have a dury. Thought to myself “that won’t last long”. I just noticed it’s still there.

just watched MW again, quite good

https://youtu.be/fSUe9Q4jIGk

sibeen said:

dv said:

sibeen said:

Unfortunately, what do you do?

You say “we’ve had to allocate more vaccines to NSW because of the poor management by the state government there. Vote them, and me, out.”

Hmmm, you’re not exactly a Dominic Cummings type, are you?

:0

Thank you

Dark Orange said:

Kingy said:

Bogsnorkler said:

jesus.

That appears to be very ungood.

Medico friend just posted this x-ray of one of his ICU patients:

Seems normal, you wouldn’t expect a good X-ray coming from an icu patient…

Scotty from marketing got this letter.. and did nothing because.. it was sent by a UNION. Those lefties.

The Maritime Union of Australia (MUA) wrote that it had “significant concerns about the current gaps that exist in the biosecurity-net”.

“With the global spread of coronavirus widening daily, the MUA urges the Federal Government to implement strict biosecurity controls across Australia’s seaports,” the union’s Paddy Crumlin wrote in his letter.

“Resources must be made available immediately to Australian biosecurity agencies.

“The agencies that protect our communities from the spread of deadly viruses must be adequately resourced, robust and dynamic to ensure they can respond appropriately to these types of viral threats.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/ruby-princess-federal-government-warned-gaps-biosecurity-maritim/100406892

poikilotherm said:

Dark Orange said:

Kingy said:

That appears to be very ungood.

Medico friend just posted this x-ray of one of his ICU patients:

Seems normal, you wouldn’t expect a good X-ray coming from an icu patient…

Especially one on a ventilator due to covid.

well i can have a picnic in a couple of weeks huzzah

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

well i can have a picnic in a couple of weeks huzzah

Jammy bastard.

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

well i can have a picnic in a couple of weeks huzzah

NSW records 1,029 COVID-19 cases, three deaths

I can clearly see why they are easing restrictions.

sibeen said:

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

well i can have a picnic in a couple of weeks huzzah

NSW records 1,029 COVID-19 cases, three deaths

I can clearly see why they are easing restrictions.

freedoms and some such

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

sibeen said:

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

well i can have a picnic in a couple of weeks huzzah

NSW records 1,029 COVID-19 cases, three deaths

I can clearly see why they are easing restrictions.

freedoms and some such

Gutless
Gold
Giving Up

SCIENCE said:

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

sibeen said:

NSW records 1,029 COVID-19 cases, three deaths

I can clearly see why they are easing restrictions.

freedoms and some such

Gutless
Gold
Giving Up

The people of NSW seem to be directly controlled by Murdoch microchips, so most will probably be happy.

Interesting – MRI brain scans done before and after covid:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.11.21258690v1.full.pdf

Here, we studied the effects of the disease in the brain using multimodal data from 782 participants, with 394 participants having tested positive for SARSCoV-2 infection between their two scans.

We used structural and functional brain scans from before and after infection, to compare longitudinal brain changes between these 394 COVID19 patients and 388 controls who were matched for age, sex, ethnicity and interval between scans. We identified significant effects of COVID-19 in the brain with a loss of grey matter in the left parahippocampal gyrus, the left lateral orbitofrontal cortex and the left insula. When looking over the entire cortical surface, these results extended to the anterior cingulate
cortex, supramarginal gyrus and temporal pole.

Aww, I love her optimism.

Dr Chant says her dream is for Australia to be “the most vaccinated country in the world”.

Divine Angel said:

Aww, I love her optimism.

Dr Chant says her dream is for Australia to be “the most vaccinated country in the world”.

there is a good chance, Aussies are a very compliant bunch..

diddly-squat said:

Divine Angel said:

Aww, I love her optimism.

Dr Chant says her dream is for Australia to be “the most vaccinated country in the world”.

there is a good chance, Aussies are a very compliant bunch..

Smoke, Mirrors, Vaccines, Chronic Illness, Death

Dark Orange said:

Interesting – MRI brain scans done before and after covid:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.11.21258690v1.full.pdf

Here, we studied the effects of the disease in the brain using multimodal data from 782 participants, with 394 participants having tested positive for SARSCoV-2 infection between their two scans.

We used structural and functional brain scans from before and after infection, to compare longitudinal brain changes between these 394 COVID19 patients and 388 controls who were matched for age, sex, ethnicity and interval between scans. We identified significant effects of COVID-19 in the brain with a loss of grey matter in the left parahippocampal gyrus, the left lateral orbitofrontal cortex and the left insula. When looking over the entire cortical surface, these results extended to the anterior cingulate
cortex, supramarginal gyrus and temporal pole.

yeah previous results were 4% per hit so after 17 reinfections you may as well have had the microchip implants early because you’ll be down 50% no worries

SCIENCE said:

diddly-squat said:

Divine Angel said:

Aww, I love her optimism.

Dr Chant says her dream is for Australia to be “the most vaccinated country in the world”.

there is a good chance, Aussies are a very compliant bunch..

Smoke, Mirrors, Vaccines, Chronic Illness, Death

sorry, I don’t understand

Gold Genius

NSW Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant says the deaths of a man in his 30s, one in his 60s and another in his 80s mean those feeling unwell should seek medical help quickly.

but don’t worry since the hospitals are full you won’t get in before you die

and don’t worry because you died outside you won’t get counted as hospital load

so the hospitals are actually coping perfectly fine, nobody died

diddly-squat said:

SCIENCE said:

diddly-squat said:

Divine Angel said:

Aww, I love her optimism.

Dr Chant says her dream is for Australia to be “the most vaccinated country in the world”.

there is a good chance, Aussies are a very compliant bunch..

Smoke, Mirrors, Vaccines, Chronic Illness, Death

sorry, I don’t understand

Fair, we were just making a scattershot at 2 main issues we have with the dream.

1. They continue to shove attention towards vaccination, because they know their case numbers (leading to chronic illness and) deaths are not looking very good.
2. Even though the big burden on society in years to come will be the chronic illness that frequently and significantly results from COVID-19, the secondary attention is shoved towards “low deaths” and especially after vaccination.

Virus fragments have been detected in Tamworth, Merimbula, Cooma and Brewarrina — locations that have no known cases.

—

That said, since they’ve already “locked down” regional, you would hope this is just the tail of incubations.

You would hope.

SCIENCE said:

diddly-squat said:

SCIENCE said:

Smoke, Mirrors, Vaccines, Chronic Illness, Death

sorry, I don’t understand

Fair, we were just making a scattershot at 2 main issues we have with the dream.

1. They continue to shove attention towards vaccination, because they know their case numbers (leading to chronic illness and) deaths are not looking very good.
2. Even though the big burden on society in years to come will be the chronic illness that frequently and significantly results from COVID-19, the secondary attention is shoved towards “low deaths” and especially after vaccination.
   

yeah sure.. but I mean at some point most all of us will, at some point over the next 5 years, catch covid irrespective of our vaccination status

diddly-squat said:

SCIENCE said:

diddly-squat said:

sorry, I don’t understand

Fair, we were just making a scattershot at 2 main issues we have with the dream.

1. They continue to shove attention towards vaccination, because they know their case numbers (leading to chronic illness and) deaths are not looking very good.
2. Even though the big burden on society in years to come will be the chronic illness that frequently and significantly results from COVID-19, the secondary attention is shoved towards “low deaths” and especially after vaccination.
   

yeah sure.. but I mean at some point most all of us will, at some point over the next 5 years, catch covid irrespective of our vaccination status

depends on the will and wisdom of governing bodies

SCIENCE said:

diddly-squat said:

SCIENCE said:

Fair, we were just making a scattershot at 2 main issues we have with the dream.

1. They continue to shove attention towards vaccination, because they know their case numbers (leading to chronic illness and) deaths are not looking very good.
2. Even though the big burden on society in years to come will be the chronic illness that frequently and significantly results from COVID-19, the secondary attention is shoved towards “low deaths” and especially after vaccination.
   

yeah sure.. but I mean at some point most all of us will, at some point over the next 5 years, catch covid irrespective of our vaccination status

depends on the will and wisdom of governing bodies

umm no.. look at what is happening in NSW with restrictions.. image what will happen when those restrictions are lifted – because they need to be lifted at some point

and of religion

Open Secret Of WEST TAIWAN’S COVID-19 Elimination Strategy Revealed

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/nz-samoan-church-centre-of-delta-cluster-as-outbreak-grows/100406352

More than 500 people across multiple church groups are believed to have attended a “special event” just two days before authorities in New Zealand discovered the Delta variant had breached the border and was spreading throughout the community.

There are now 114 cases associated with the event held at the Assembly of God Church of Samoa in South Auckland — the largest cluster within New Zealand’s outbreak.

The event associated with the South Auckland cluster was a coming together of several different churches and, among the large crowd, someone was carrying the Delta variant.

“There are some racist remarks being directed at people in our Samoan community affected by the current outbreak. This is disappointing and frankly, gutless,” he said.

One woman from Tonga who has overstayed her visa, who spoke to the ABC on the condition on anonymity, said she was too concerned about being deported to come forward.

sibeen said:

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

well i can have a picnic in a couple of weeks huzzah

NSW records 1,029 COVID-19 cases, three deaths

I can clearly see why they are easing restrictions.

I was only half listening in the car, but I understand funerals will be allowed to have more people attending. Prophetic?

diddly-squat said:

SCIENCE said:

diddly-squat said:

yeah sure.. but I mean at some point most all of us will, at some point over the next 5 years, catch covid irrespective of our vaccination status

depends on the will and wisdom of governing bodies

umm no.. look at what is happening in NSW with restrictions.. image what will happen when those restrictions are lifted – because they need to be lifted at some point

Look at what happens when restrictions are lifted in NSW and cases are in test-trace-isolate range… imagine what test-trace-isolate could do at some well-resourced point.

diddly-squat said:

SCIENCE said:

diddly-squat said:

sorry, I don’t understand

Fair, we were just making a scattershot at 2 main issues we have with the dream.

1. They continue to shove attention towards vaccination, because they know their case numbers (leading to chronic illness and) deaths are not looking very good.
2. Even though the big burden on society in years to come will be the chronic illness that frequently and significantly results from COVID-19, the secondary attention is shoved towards “low deaths” and especially after vaccination.
   

yeah sure.. but I mean at some point most all of us will, at some point over the next 5 years, catch covid irrespective of our vaccination status

This is not a conversation I’m ready to have with Mini Me yet.

diddly-squat said:

Divine Angel said:

Aww, I love her optimism.

Dr Chant says her dream is for Australia to be “the most vaccinated country in the world”.

there is a good chance, Aussies are a very compliant bunch..

We are not compliant at all. However, we tend to know the right thing to do.

buffy said:

sibeen said:

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

well i can have a picnic in a couple of weeks huzzah

NSW records 1,029 COVID-19 cases, three deaths

I can clearly see why they are easing restrictions.

I was only half listening in the car, but I understand funerals will be allowed to have more people attending. Prophetic?

Let’s be clear here: once the disease has reached specific groups of people, then we should start to encourage people to attend funerals, it helps achieve flock immunity in specific groups.

SCIENCE said:

diddly-squat said:

SCIENCE said:

depends on the will and wisdom of governing bodies

umm no.. look at what is happening in NSW with restrictions.. image what will happen when those restrictions are lifted – because they need to be lifted at some point

Look at what happens when restrictions are lifted in NSW and cases are in test-trace-isolate range… imagine what test-trace-isolate could do at some well-resourced point.

I image that particular restriction will be in place permanently, just like it is for other infectious diseases