Date: 31/08/2021 00:22:01
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1784676
Subject: Duration of urination.

Researchers at the Georgia Institute of Technology have discovered a new golden rule: every mammal takes about 21 seconds to urinate. Patricia Yang and her co-authors dubbed it the “Law of Orientation” in a paper published this week, and they say it applies across a wide range of animal sizes

https://www.theverge.com/2013/10/19/4855076/the-law-of-urination-mammals-take-21-seconds-to-pee
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I admit to often counting while I pee. About 7 to 10 seconds seems normal. 15 or so for first thing on awakening. 20 to 25 seconds is like 12 daytime hours without a piss and really hanging out.

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Date: 31/08/2021 00:25:11
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1784677
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

2013 paper.

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Date: 31/08/2021 00:27:08
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1784679
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

> every mammal takes about 21 seconds to urinate

That is priceless.

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Date: 31/08/2021 00:43:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1784685
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

We’d like to share a revelation that we’ve had during our time here. It came to us when we tried to classify your species and we realized that you’re not actually mammals.

Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area.

There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is?

A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague and we are the cure.

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Date: 31/08/2021 00:45:44
From: furious
ID: 1784687
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

SCIENCE said:


We’d like to share a revelation that we’ve had during our time here. It came to us when we tried to classify your species and we realized that you’re not actually mammals.

Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area.

There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is?

A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague and we are the cure.

Yes, Agent Smith…

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Date: 31/08/2021 06:14:43
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1784699
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

SCIENCE said:


We’d like to share a revelation that we’ve had during our time here. It came to us when we tried to classify your species and we realized that you’re not actually mammals.

Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area.

There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is?

A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague and we are the cure.

I’m beginning to wonder why humans pick up this attitude. I went looking for photos of black rights demonstrators on the internet, and I couldn’t find one without white people in the demonstration. It’s this self-criticism that is interesting psychologically. We have, as a species, a hatred of ourselves.

Perhaps it’s just a natural extension of our self-destructive instinct. Another example is the instinct to forget something when walking out the front door. I’ve had years at a time when I couldn’t go out the front door without forgetting something every day. The self-destructive instinct is like walking to the wrong cupboard for crockery, the instinct to get milk out of the fridge when we’ve already got it out. The instinct to mis-type an internet post or scientific paper. Currently I’m struggling with the instinct to wear slippery-soled shoes in the rain. The instinct to say the wrong thing to a pretty girl. It’ll trip you up every time if you’re in the wrong mindset and not concentrating 100%.

But perhaps it’s got nothing to do with our self-destructive instinct.

Yes, I’ve gone through the stage of thinking that humans are a disease on the planet. And I’ve come through that out the other side.

> You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is?

Yes, I do. Most animals on this planet, most species on this planet. The rat, the cat, the fox. Even wildebeest and eucalypts. What you call “equilibrium” doesn’t exist, it’s a fiction. The only creatures that are not virulent opportunists are those that are self-destructive. Amur leopards are dying off, because they murder one another. Creatures that don’t murder one another are being murdered by other species.

I could argue that humans never ever have to move becuase “every natural resource is consumed”. Name one city that has had to move because “every natural resource has been consumed”. There isn’t one. There are only cities that have had to be abandoned because we’ve murdered all the inhabitants (eg. Troy, Carthage) or cities that have had to be abandoned because “mother nature” has turned against us (eg. Thebes, Tikal, Angkor Wat).

But I won’t argue that because there have been true examples where humans have so fouled or depleted their environments that they have to move. Pre-European aborigines for example. Bedouin.

There are plenty of environmentally destructive animals. I’m going to cite an environmentally destructive animal that you probably haven’t even thought of. Coral. Reef-building corals suck all the carbon out of the environment as they grow and turn it into rock. Carbon that should be in living things. In the past 12,000 years they’ve created 25,000 cubic kilometres (or more) of rock, which has sucked ? tonnes of carbon out of the biosphere. Let’s calcuate it. Carbon makes up 12% of limestone by weight. Highly porous limestone weighs 1.5 tonnes per cubic metre. So coral growth in the past 12,000 years has sucked 4,500,000,000,000 tonnes of carbon out of the biosphere.

Humans are far from being the only destructive creature on the planet.

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Date: 31/08/2021 06:20:10
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1784700
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

mollwollfumble said:

But I won’t argue that because there have been true examples where humans have so fouled or depleted their environments that they have to move. Pre-European aborigines for example.

WTF?

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Date: 31/08/2021 06:26:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1784701
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

Witty Rejoinder said:


mollwollfumble said:

But I won’t argue that because there have been true examples where humans have so fouled or depleted their environments that they have to move. Pre-European aborigines for example.

WTF?

One would respectfully ask for referential documentation of said events.

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Date: 31/08/2021 06:33:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1784702
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

mollwollfumble said:


SCIENCE said:

We’d like to share a revelation that we’ve had during our time here. It came to us when we tried to classify your species and we realized that you’re not actually mammals.

Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area.

There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is?

A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague and we are the cure.

I’m beginning to wonder why humans pick up this attitude. I went looking for photos of black rights demonstrators on the internet, and I couldn’t find one without white people in the demonstration. It’s this self-criticism that is interesting psychologically. We have, as a species, a hatred of ourselves.

Perhaps it’s just a natural extension of our self-destructive instinct. Another example is the instinct to forget something when walking out the front door. I’ve had years at a time when I couldn’t go out the front door without forgetting something every day. The self-destructive instinct is like walking to the wrong cupboard for crockery, the instinct to get milk out of the fridge when we’ve already got it out. The instinct to mis-type an internet post or scientific paper. Currently I’m struggling with the instinct to wear slippery-soled shoes in the rain. The instinct to say the wrong thing to a pretty girl. It’ll trip you up every time if you’re in the wrong mindset and not concentrating 100%.

But perhaps it’s got nothing to do with our self-destructive instinct.

Yes, I’ve gone through the stage of thinking that humans are a disease on the planet. And I’ve come through that out the other side.

> You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is?

Yes, I do. Most animals on this planet, most species on this planet. The rat, the cat, the fox. Even wildebeest and eucalypts. What you call “equilibrium” doesn’t exist, it’s a fiction. The only creatures that are not virulent opportunists are those that are self-destructive. Amur leopards are dying off, because they murder one another. Creatures that don’t murder one another are being murdered by other species.

I could argue that humans never ever have to move becuase “every natural resource is consumed”. Name one city that has had to move because “every natural resource has been consumed”. There isn’t one. There are only cities that have had to be abandoned because we’ve murdered all the inhabitants (eg. Troy, Carthage) or cities that have had to be abandoned because “mother nature” has turned against us (eg. Thebes, Tikal, Angkor Wat).

But I won’t argue that because there have been true examples where humans have so fouled or depleted their environments that they have to move. Pre-European aborigines for example. Bedouin.

There are plenty of environmentally destructive animals. I’m going to cite an environmentally destructive animal that you probably haven’t even thought of. Coral. Reef-building corals suck all the carbon out of the environment as they grow and turn it into rock. Carbon that should be in living things. In the past 12,000 years they’ve created 25,000 cubic kilometres (or more) of rock, which has sucked ? tonnes of carbon out of the biosphere. Let’s calcuate it. Carbon makes up 12% of limestone by weight. Highly porous limestone weighs 1.5 tonnes per cubic metre. So coral growth in the past 12,000 years has sucked 4,500,000,000,000 tonnes of carbon out of the biosphere.

Humans are far from being the only destructive creature on the planet.

Yes. Sydney is still there and bigger than ever even though the Tank Stream was polluted during the first settlement. Hasn’t stopped the city polluting more and more or destruction of the local environmental resources and even the destabilisation of the bedrock from longwall coal mining.
Cities aren’t surviving because they are sustainably using infinite resources locally available. They are surviving by stripping the whole country of resources.

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Date: 31/08/2021 09:06:47
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1784717
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

Sort of interesting which particular oddities in a moll post people choose to respond to.

mollwollfumble said:

I’m beginning to wonder why humans pick up this attitude. I went looking for photos of black rights demonstrators on the internet, and I couldn’t find one without white people in the demonstration. It’s this self-criticism that is interesting psychologically. We have, as a species, a hatred of ourselves.

You see people supporting community members who happen to have a different skin colour as a problem?

I see it as one of the more hopeful signs of how things might develop in the future.

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Date: 31/08/2021 09:17:56
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1784720
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

And returning to the theme of the OP:

If my dog took 21 seconds every time it stopped for a pee, every walk would take about 3 times as long.

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Date: 31/08/2021 09:28:34
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1784721
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

When I was a serious industrial drinker you’d go to the pub and have 4 or 5 beers before needing a piss and it would be a long one but once you’d broken the seal you’d be up for a piss after every second beer there after.
After three score and thirteen summers those days of going to the pub at opening and staying until stumps are drawn are well and truly over.

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Date: 31/08/2021 09:29:42
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1784723
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

The Rev Dodgson said:


And returning to the theme of the OP:

If my dog took 21 seconds every time it stopped for a pee, every walk would take about 3 times as long.

Its an average.

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Date: 31/08/2021 09:32:18
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1784725
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

The Rev Dodgson said:


And returning to the theme of the OP:

If my dog took 21 seconds every time it stopped for a pee, every walk would take about 3 times as long.

is you dog actually having a pee or just marking territory which doesn’t require a full bladders worth?

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Date: 31/08/2021 09:38:27
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1784728
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

Tau.Neutrino said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

And returning to the theme of the OP:

If my dog took 21 seconds every time it stopped for a pee, every walk would take about 3 times as long.

Its an average.

There must be a lot of dogs that take bloody long pees then.

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Date: 31/08/2021 09:39:30
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1784729
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

And returning to the theme of the OP:

If my dog took 21 seconds every time it stopped for a pee, every walk would take about 3 times as long.

is you dog actually having a pee or just marking territory which doesn’t require a full bladders worth?

It’s marking territory by having a pee.

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Date: 31/08/2021 09:40:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1784730
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

And returning to the theme of the OP:

If my dog took 21 seconds every time it stopped for a pee, every walk would take about 3 times as long.

Its an average.

There must be a lot of dogs that take bloody long pees then.

is 21 s bloody long for a dog

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Date: 31/08/2021 09:41:30
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1784732
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

Has there been a time taking marking territory study?

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Date: 31/08/2021 09:52:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1784736
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

The Rev Dodgson said:


Sort of interesting which particular oddities in a moll post people choose to respond to.

mollwollfumble said:

I’m beginning to wonder why humans pick up this attitude. I went looking for photos of black rights demonstrators on the internet, and I couldn’t find one without white people in the demonstration. It’s this self-criticism that is interesting psychologically. We have, as a species, a hatred of ourselves.

You see people supporting community members who happen to have a different skin colour as a problem?

I see it as one of the more hopeful signs of how things might develop in the future.

This.

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Date: 31/08/2021 09:53:24
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1784737
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

And returning to the theme of the OP:

If my dog took 21 seconds every time it stopped for a pee, every walk would take about 3 times as long.

is you dog actually having a pee or just marking territory which doesn’t require a full bladders worth?

It’s marking territory by having a pee.

the difference is relieving ones self because of a full bladder and letting a little out as a scent marker. Plus we are talking relief as I don’t think humans, well not all, mark territory with piss.

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Date: 31/08/2021 09:54:34
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1784738
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Its an average.

There must be a lot of dogs that take bloody long pees then.

is 21 s bloody long for a dog

Yes, but I was talking about the 60+ s pees, to balance all the 5 s pees.

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Date: 31/08/2021 09:55:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1784739
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

Bogsnorkler said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

is you dog actually having a pee or just marking territory which doesn’t require a full bladders worth?

It’s marking territory by having a pee.

the difference is relieving ones self because of a full bladder and letting a little out as a scent marker. Plus we are talking relief as I don’t think humans, well not all, mark territory with piss.

We’d only be marking our own backyards if we did.

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Date: 31/08/2021 09:56:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1784740
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

There must be a lot of dogs that take bloody long pees then.

is 21 s bloody long for a dog

Yes, but I was talking about the 60+ s pees, to balance all the 5 s pees.

Don’t think I’ve ever watched a dog pee for a whole minute.

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Date: 31/08/2021 09:59:59
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1784743
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

I decided to go counter to the forum way, and actually read the article, from which I conclude that the headline is a little misleading:

“For small mammals like rats and bats, gravity doesn’t exert much influence on flow rates, which are instead determined by viscosity and surface tension. That’s why they urinate in small drops, Yang says, finishing the job in less than a second.”

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Date: 31/08/2021 10:03:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1784746
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

There must be a lot of dogs that take bloody long pees then.

is 21 s bloody long for a dog

Yes, but I was talking about the 60+ s pees, to balance all the 5 s pees.

very mean of you to suggest that

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Date: 31/08/2021 10:06:56
From: transition
ID: 1784748
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

mollwollfumble said:


SCIENCE said:

We’d like to share a revelation that we’ve had during our time here. It came to us when we tried to classify your species and we realized that you’re not actually mammals.

Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area.

There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is?

A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague and we are the cure.

I’m beginning to wonder why humans pick up this attitude. I went looking for photos of black rights demonstrators on the internet, and I couldn’t find one without white people in the demonstration. It’s this self-criticism that is interesting psychologically. We have, as a species, a hatred of ourselves.

Perhaps it’s just a natural extension of our self-destructive instinct. Another example is the instinct to forget something when walking out the front door. I’ve had years at a time when I couldn’t go out the front door without forgetting something every day. The self-destructive instinct is like walking to the wrong cupboard for crockery, the instinct to get milk out of the fridge when we’ve already got it out. The instinct to mis-type an internet post or scientific paper. Currently I’m struggling with the instinct to wear slippery-soled shoes in the rain. The instinct to say the wrong thing to a pretty girl. It’ll trip you up every time if you’re in the wrong mindset and not concentrating 100%.

But perhaps it’s got nothing to do with our self-destructive instinct.

Yes, I’ve gone through the stage of thinking that humans are a disease on the planet. And I’ve come through that out the other side.

> You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is?

Yes, I do. Most animals on this planet, most species on this planet. The rat, the cat, the fox. Even wildebeest and eucalypts. What you call “equilibrium” doesn’t exist, it’s a fiction. The only creatures that are not virulent opportunists are those that are self-destructive. Amur leopards are dying off, because they murder one another. Creatures that don’t murder one another are being murdered by other species.

I could argue that humans never ever have to move becuase “every natural resource is consumed”. Name one city that has had to move because “every natural resource has been consumed”. There isn’t one. There are only cities that have had to be abandoned because we’ve murdered all the inhabitants (eg. Troy, Carthage) or cities that have had to be abandoned because “mother nature” has turned against us (eg. Thebes, Tikal, Angkor Wat).

But I won’t argue that because there have been true examples where humans have so fouled or depleted their environments that they have to move. Pre-European aborigines for example. Bedouin.

There are plenty of environmentally destructive animals. I’m going to cite an environmentally destructive animal that you probably haven’t even thought of. Coral. Reef-building corals suck all the carbon out of the environment as they grow and turn it into rock. Carbon that should be in living things. In the past 12,000 years they’ve created 25,000 cubic kilometres (or more) of rock, which has sucked ? tonnes of carbon out of the biosphere. Let’s calcuate it. Carbon makes up 12% of limestone by weight. Highly porous limestone weighs 1.5 tonnes per cubic metre. So coral growth in the past 12,000 years has sucked 4,500,000,000,000 tonnes of carbon out of the biosphere.

Humans are far from being the only destructive creature on the planet.

it’s a quote from matrix movie, not sure why science poked it in, you could ask him, he may know and offer some insight, interesting as that might be, which it may not be, or useful for much at all

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Date: 31/08/2021 10:14:04
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1784752
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

transition said:

it’s a quote from matrix movie, not sure why science poked it in, you could ask him, he may know and offer some insight, interesting as that might be, which it may not be, or useful for much at all

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Date: 31/08/2021 11:43:42
From: buffy
ID: 1784796
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bogsnorkler said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

And returning to the theme of the OP:

If my dog took 21 seconds every time it stopped for a pee, every walk would take about 3 times as long.

is you dog actually having a pee or just marking territory which doesn’t require a full bladders worth?

It’s marking territory by having a pee.

And they have to conserve pee, because it’s embarrassing if you run out and have to do phantom pees for the last half of the walk.

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Date: 31/08/2021 11:52:01
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1784800
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

buffy said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bogsnorkler said:

is you dog actually having a pee or just marking territory which doesn’t require a full bladders worth?

It’s marking territory by having a pee.

And they have to conserve pee, because it’s embarrassing if you run out and have to do phantom pees for the last half of the walk.

The past male dog was adept at withholding , even after 30s + pees. The whole neighbourhood knew where he’d been, must’ve had one large bladder.

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Date: 31/08/2021 11:53:28
From: buffy
ID: 1784802
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

poikilotherm said:


buffy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

It’s marking territory by having a pee.

And they have to conserve pee, because it’s embarrassing if you run out and have to do phantom pees for the last half of the walk.

The past male dog was adept at withholding , even after 30s + pees. The whole neighbourhood knew where he’d been, must’ve had one large bladder.

Long finds it necessary not only to do his own marking, but to overmark Bruna…this bitch is mine!

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Date: 31/08/2021 11:57:21
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1784804
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

roughbarked said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

mollwollfumble said:

But I won’t argue that because there have been true examples where humans have so fouled or depleted their environments that they have to move. Pre-European aborigines for example.

WTF?

One would respectfully ask for referential documentation of said events.

I don’t need “referntial documentation”. In Eastern Australia up north before Europeans they had to go walkabout, move every six months because they dumped their garbage right next to their living space.

In Western Australia they had to move because they used up all the natural resources, the water in the waterhole and wildlife around it. So they had to keep moving from one waterhole to another.

The Rev Dodgson said:


And returning to the theme of the OP:

If my dog took 21 seconds every time it stopped for a pee, every walk would take about 3 times as long.

Thanks for returning to the OP.

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Date: 20/02/2022 03:01:46
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1850575
Subject: re: Duration of urination.

sarahs mum said:


Researchers at the Georgia Institute of Technology have discovered a new golden rule: every mammal takes about 21 seconds to urinate. Patricia Yang and her co-authors dubbed it the “Law of Orientation” in a paper published this week, and they say it applies across a wide range of animal sizes

https://www.theverge.com/2013/10/19/4855076/the-law-of-urination-mammals-take-21-seconds-to-pee
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I admit to often counting while I pee. About 7 to 10 seconds seems normal. 15 or so for first thing on awakening. 20 to 25 seconds is like 12 daytime hours without a piss and really hanging out.

Did a 30 second pee the other day when I woke up and I really needed it. Notes that I sometimes goat piss. (If you yell goat and wave your arms around at a goat they will piss.) (ie If I am agitated or alarmed I might have a short piss.)

Meanwhile…I just found this.

>>>>

In 2015, an Ig Nobel Prize for physics was awarded for taking high-speed footage of animals peeing in zoos, and gawping at more videos of animals urinating via YouTube. The team modeled the fluid dynamics involved in peeing for a variety of different sized animals, and found what they termed the “Law of Urination”.

It’s a simple law, but a curious one: animals that are over 3 kilograms (6.6 pounds) empty their bladders over about 21 seconds. In smaller animals – for example, rats – urination can happen in a fraction of a second. The research helped confirm that pee duration was not just to do with bladder pressure, but also related to our good friend gravity. In smaller animals, pee time is constrained by the surface tension of urine.

“How can bladders of both 0.5 kg and 100 kg be emptied in nearly the same duration? Larger animals have longer urethras, and so greater gravitational force driving flow. These long urethras increase the flow rate of larger animals, enabling them to perform the feat of emptying their substantial bladders over approximately the same duration,” the team wrote in their paper.

“In this study, we find the urethra is analogous to Pascal’s Barrel, acting as an energy input device. By providing a water-tight pipe to direct urine downward, the urethra increases the gravitational force acting on urine and so the rate that urine is expelled from the body. Thus, the urethra is critical to the bladder’s ability to empty quickly as the system is scaled up.”

In 2015, an Ig Nobel Prize for physics was awarded for taking high-speed footage of animals peeing in zoos, and gawping at more videos of animals urinating via YouTube. The team modeled the fluid dynamics involved in peeing for a variety of different sized animals, and found what they termed the “Law of Urination”.

It’s a simple law, but a curious one: animals that are over 3 kilograms (6.6 pounds) empty their bladders over about 21 seconds. In smaller animals – for example, rats – urination can happen in a fraction of a second. The research helped confirm that pee duration was not just to do with bladder pressure, but also related to our good friend gravity. In smaller animals, pee time is constrained by the surface tension of urine.
From Squeaks To Boings: Scientists Plan Global Archive Of The Ocean’s “Underwater Orchestra” – IFLScience

“How can bladders of both 0.5 kg and 100 kg be emptied in nearly the same duration? Larger animals have longer urethras, and so greater gravitational force driving flow. These long urethras increase the flow rate of larger animals, enabling them to perform the feat of emptying their substantial bladders over approximately the same duration,” the team wrote in their paper.

“In this study, we find the urethra is analogous to Pascal’s Barrel, acting as an energy input device. By providing a water-tight pipe to direct urine downward, the urethra increases the gravitational force acting on urine and so the rate that urine is expelled from the body. Thus, the urethra is critical to the bladder’s ability to empty quickly as the system is scaled up.”

Here’s a recap of Pascal’s Barrel, in which a small amount of water causes a large jug to burst because of that added energy.

https://youtu.be/EJHrr21UvY8

While it’s fun just to know how animals pee and for how long it’s also useful to know for diagnosis of bladder conditions and use of mouse and pig models for urological studies. Using the data they collected, they were able to produce an equation that should tell you how long each animal should pee for. Deviation from this urination time could be an indication of poor bladder health, swelling, infection, or prostate problems.

Urologist Nicole Eisenbrown told Well and Good that this “21-second rule” can be used to help keep an eye on your own health and habits. Basically, if you time yourself peeing (over a period of time, not just one sitting) and find that you take significantly longer or shorter than 21 seconds, it can indicate that you are holding it in for too long, or not enough.

Say you are in a profession where it’s difficult to get away to the bathroom (e.g. a teacher) and thus hold it in for as long as you can. This can enlarge your bladder by chronically over-extending it, and could cause you functional problems down the line.

Should you pee too often (and peeing for much less than 21 seconds would be a good indicator of this), you may end up with an “overactive bladder”: your bladder feels full and you need to pee, even when you shouldn’t.

As mentioned in the study above, altered flow rates can be an indication of more serious health problems, as well as other smaller ones. If you find yourself peeing frequently, and so the volume is smaller, it can be a sign of bladder stones, for example, or cystitis. Longer times spent urinating at lower pressure could indicate prostate problems.

It should be noted that as males get older, flow rates do go down, but should you have any concerns about your urination – particularly if you are experiencing other symptoms such as pain or discomfort – it is worth discussing with a physician.

https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/the-law-of-urination-and-why-you-should-go-by-the-21-second-rule/

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Date: 20/02/2022 03:03:38
From: sarahs mum
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Subject: re: Duration of urination.

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Date: 20/02/2022 03:06:07
From: sarahs mum
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Subject: re: Duration of urination.

sarahs mum said:



Cobbett walks around in the morning and does a couple of seconds pissing in lots of places around the house.

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