Victoria’s COVID outbreak is growing faster than the one in NSW. Why is that?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-14/victoria-covid-outbreak-reproduction-rate-faster-than-nsw/100457148
Another ugly piece of work…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-14/george-christensen-ivermectin-feeds-vaccine-hesitancy-says-gp/100457530
Queensland records one new local case, a 15-year-old student of St Thomas More College in Sunnybank.
Authorities are not worried.
There was also one case detected in hotel quarantine.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-14/covid-19-live-updates-vic-nsw-lockdown-compliance-announcement/100457850
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/09/australias-vaccine-passport-plans-face-resistance-in-the-act
Australia news LIVE: Digital pass to allow vaccinated Australians to travel; hospitals under pressure as NSW, Victorian COVID-19 cases rise
https://www.smh.com.au/national/australia-news-live-digital-pass-to-allow-vaccinated-australians-to-travel-hospitals-under-pressure-as-nsw-victorian-covid-19-cases-rise-20210914-p58rdq.html
ChrispenEvan said:
the first or the final act ¿
Ripper…
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110362?query=featured_home
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2108479?query=featured_home
1127 cases in NSW reported today.
Speedy said:
1127 cases in NSW reported today.
Seems GB was correct in saying that last week would be the worst week.
Speedy said:
1127 cases in NSW reported today.
Hmmm… I read that as 1/127 NSW and thought is it cricket season already?
dv said:
Speedy said:
1127 cases in NSW reported today.
Seems GB was correct in saying that last week would be the worst week.
A bit early perhaps?
dv said:
Speedy said:
1127 cases in NSW reported today.
Seems GB was correct in saying that last week would be the worst week.
Who is GB?
Michael V said:
dv said:
Speedy said:
1127 cases in NSW reported today.
Seems GB was correct in saying that last week would be the worst week.
Who is GB?
Gladys Bjelkestan
Michael V said:
dv said:
Speedy said:
1127 cases in NSW reported today.
Seems GB was correct in saying that last week would be the worst week.
Who is GB?
NSW Premier
dv said:
Speedy said:
1127 cases in NSW reported today.
Seems GB was correct in saying that last week would be the worst week.
Did she say that? I thought they were predicting October to be the worst for the NSW outbreak.
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:Seems GB was correct in saying that last week would be the worst week.
Who is GB?
Gladys Bjelkestan
Thanks.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Speedy said:
1127 cases in NSW reported today.
Seems GB was correct in saying that last week would be the worst week.
Did she say that? I thought they were predicting October to be the worst for the NSW outbreak.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/10/nsw-covid-update-gladys-berejiklian-to-abandon-daily-press-conferences-despite-record-new-cases
NSW Covid update: Gladys Berejiklian to abandon daily press conferences despite record new cases
With cases expected to peak next week and hospitalisations next month, the premier says ‘I will turn up when I need to’
The New South Wales premier will abandon daily press conferences from next week, announcing the decision on the day the state recorded a record-high figure of 1,542 new cases, as well as nine deaths.
The peak of cases across NSW is expected next week, and hospitalisations and intensive care admissions next month, but Gladys Berejiklian – under fierce questioning – has defended not fronting the media to answer questions.
That’s a neat trick…
furious said:
- Gladys Berejiklian – under fierce questioning – has defended not fronting the media to answer questions.
That’s a neat trick…
Very.
Hand on heart I think it is reasonable for her to cease the dailies. It’s mostly a fairly dry statistical update which can be done by staff, or even by website.
I would hope that the time she saves is being used productively
dv said:
Hand on heart I think it is reasonable for her to cease the dailies. It’s mostly a fairly dry statistical update which can be done by staff, or even by website.
I would hope that the time she saves is being used productively
It’s nothing to do with the corruption allegations floating around then?
dv said:
Hand on heart I think it is reasonable for her to cease the dailies. It’s mostly a fairly dry statistical update which can be done by staff, or even by website.
I would hope that the time she saves is being used productively
A staffer cannot be questioned on govt policy. They can only report the numbers.
Ian said:
dv said:
Hand on heart I think it is reasonable for her to cease the dailies. It’s mostly a fairly dry statistical update which can be done by staff, or even by website.
I would hope that the time she saves is being used productively
It’s nothing to do with the corruption allegations floating around then?
The cynic in me says “Yes it does.”.
Michael V said:
Ian said:
dv said:
Hand on heart I think it is reasonable for her to cease the dailies. It’s mostly a fairly dry statistical update which can be done by staff, or even by website.
I would hope that the time she saves is being used productively
It’s nothing to do with the corruption allegations floating around then?
The cynic in me says “Yes it does.”.
simple to say, “She’s under a lot of pressure”.
Michael V said:
Ian said:
dv said:
Hand on heart I think it is reasonable for her to cease the dailies. It’s mostly a fairly dry statistical update which can be done by staff, or even by website.
I would hope that the time she saves is being used productively
It’s nothing to do with the corruption allegations floating around then?
The cynic in me says “Yes it does.”.
At Sunday’s press conference, the Premier declared she would face the cameras again “when I feel I need to be accountable”.
Four minutes later, the press conference was cut short and Gladys Berejiklian left.
The questioning had strayed from COVID-19 into whether the Premier had been asked to give evidence to the state’s corruption watchdog — the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC).
She wouldn’t be drawn on any ICAC investigation but nonetheless her media director called time on the press conference.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-07/gladys-berejiklian-deflects-icac-questions/100441188
party_pants said:
dv said:
Hand on heart I think it is reasonable for her to cease the dailies. It’s mostly a fairly dry statistical update which can be done by staff, or even by website.
I would hope that the time she saves is being used productively
A staffer cannot be questioned on govt policy. They can only report the numbers.
Okay but the govt policy is not going to change every day.
dv said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
Hand on heart I think it is reasonable for her to cease the dailies. It’s mostly a fairly dry statistical update which can be done by staff, or even by website.
I would hope that the time she saves is being used productively
A staffer cannot be questioned on govt policy. They can only report the numbers.
Okay but the govt policy is not going to change every day.
exactly
no
wait
well
dv said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
Hand on heart I think it is reasonable for her to cease the dailies. It’s mostly a fairly dry statistical update which can be done by staff, or even by website.
I would hope that the time she saves is being used productively
A staffer cannot be questioned on govt policy. They can only report the numbers.
Okay but the govt policy is not going to change every day.
Well yeah. they only need to change it once, from what they are doing now to handling it sensibly. Maybe when they’ve made that change there might not be the need for daily briefings.
Ian said:
Michael V said:
Ian said:
It’s nothing to do with the corruption allegations floating around then?
The cynic in me says “Yes it does.”.
At Sunday’s press conference, the Premier declared she would face the cameras again “when I feel I need to be accountable”.
Four minutes later, the press conference was cut short and Gladys Berejiklian left.
The questioning had strayed from COVID-19 into whether the Premier had been asked to give evidence to the state’s corruption watchdog — the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC).
She wouldn’t be drawn on any ICAC investigation but nonetheless her media director called time on the press conference.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-07/gladys-berejiklian-deflects-icac-questions/100441188
yeah but as dv suggests, they have deliberately made the press conferences a load of bullshit so they were pretty useless, certainly useless as an accountability process
this move they’ve pulled is another clever strategy to divert attention, now we’ve been tricked into believing that bullshit is accountability, and they get away with hiding by default, and when they front up the slightest press conference window, everyone will think “gee what an accountable government” and buy the bullshit
Michael V said:
Ian said:
dv said:
Hand on heart I think it is reasonable for her to cease the dailies. It’s mostly a fairly dry statistical update which can be done by staff, or even by website.
I would hope that the time she saves is being used productively
It’s nothing to do with the corruption allegations floating around then?
The cynic in me says “Yes it does.”.
If all your daily press conferences in the middle of a pandemic contain only dry statistics, then maybe you should hand the job over to someone who is a little more proactive.
poikilotherm said:
Ripper…https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110362?query=featured_home
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2108479?query=featured_home
Thanks.
A new study in the UK found that of the deaths from COVID-19 in the first half of this year, less than 1% were from fully vaccinated people, and 60% of those people who died when fully vaccinated were either infected before they received their second dose or very shortly after before it had time to take effect.
Regarding deaths by adverse reactions to the vaccine, of the 134k deaths total, 4 of them mention an adverse reaction to the vaccine, and 0 of them list adverse reactions to the vaccine as the cause of death.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/deathsinvolvingcovid19byvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween2januaryand2july2021?fbclid=IwAR0PIy8Aj42LyhBHB5aGI19JHOBn8-RqcJXBpVZS51HkS8s-rx9YY-hRMM0
Rapid antigen tests will ‘play a big part’ in Australia’s pathway out of the pandemic
“We now have 28 rapid antigen tests approved in Australia on my latest advice,” Mr Hunt says.
“Rapid antigen testing will play a big part in Australia’s pathway out of lockdown.
“So I have asked the TGA to rapidly consider the role of anti-gen testing or rapid antigen tests. They’ll be going through that process. They’re already assessing and approving the rapid antigen tests themselves.
“And now on the basis of their medical advice I’m hopeful the tests will be available at the earliest possible time for workplaces and then subsequently once we have the support of AHPPC within the home. But rapid antigen tests will be available in workplaces and soon enough in the home environment.”
More good news, I’ve always thought that rapid antigen tests should be part of the tool kit.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rapid antigen tests will ‘play a big part’ in Australia’s pathway out of the pandemic
“We now have 28 rapid antigen tests approved in Australia on my latest advice,” Mr Hunt says.
“Rapid antigen testing will play a big part in Australia’s pathway out of lockdown.
“So I have asked the TGA to rapidly consider the role of anti-gen testing or rapid antigen tests. They’ll be going through that process. They’re already assessing and approving the rapid antigen tests themselves.
“And now on the basis of their medical advice I’m hopeful the tests will be available at the earliest possible time for workplaces and then subsequently once we have the support of AHPPC within the home. But rapid antigen tests will be available in workplaces and soon enough in the home environment.”More good news, I’ve always thought that rapid antigen tests should be part of the tool kit.
I remember you saying it.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rapid antigen tests will ‘play a big part’ in Australia’s pathway out of the pandemic
“We now have 28 rapid antigen tests approved in Australia on my latest advice,” Mr Hunt says.
“Rapid antigen testing will play a big part in Australia’s pathway out of lockdown.
“So I have asked the TGA to rapidly consider the role of anti-gen testing or rapid antigen tests. They’ll be going through that process. They’re already assessing and approving the rapid antigen tests themselves.
“And now on the basis of their medical advice I’m hopeful the tests will be available at the earliest possible time for workplaces and then subsequently once we have the support of AHPPC within the home. But rapid antigen tests will be available in workplaces and soon enough in the home environment.”More good news, I’ve always thought that rapid antigen tests should be part of the tool kit.
They’re available for workplaces now.
Will you be part of the Moderna rollout Poik?
Leon Compton
@LeonCompton
This morning Tas Secretary of Health, Katherine Morgan-Wicks, tells Mornings she will recommend that vaccination rates of ‘above 90%’ be achieved before Tasmania relaxes border restrictions. #politas
11:18 AM · Sep 14, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
Peak Warming Man said:
Will you be part of the Moderna rollout Poik?
Yep, turns up in the next week or two…or whenever, who knows with the way this shit gets shipped.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-14/nsw-premier-heated-meeting-with-lga-mayors-covid19/100459154
I wonder if any back office bullying goes on in regards to pressure to reopen as certain powerful rich people find it hard to afford another ivory backscratcher with restrictions in place.
Cymek said:
I wonder if any back office bullying goes on in regards to pressure to reopen as certain powerful rich people find it hard to afford another ivory backscratcher with restrictions in place.
Well, Clive has announced he is going to WA again if require him to have a vaccine certificate as a condition of entry when free travel resumes.
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/can-i-be-refused-entry-to-premises-if-i-am-unvaccinated/
ChrispenEvan said:
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/can-i-be-refused-entry-to-premises-if-i-am-unvaccinated/
Anti vaxer friend of mrs m is suing the state government over that.
This friend is a total waste of good air, and not just for that reason.
Canterbury-Bankstown Mayor Khal Asfour said today’s discussion became “heated” when the topic turned to discrimination, as mayors described how their communities felt stigmatised and treated differently to other Sydneysiders.
“We raised … concerns about the different discrimination that we’re feeling in the areas of concern, where the meeting got a little bit heated,” he said.
“ answer to that was she was trying to protect everybody … we just think it could’ve been done a different way.”
—
doubtful, we absolutely agree with Gutless that letting it out from the beaches in Bondi then locking it into Bankstown was the best way to protect everybody
SCIENCE said:
Not surprised.
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
Not surprised.
as mentioned before we’ve heard rumours that they’re using their operating rooms there in NSW as extended intensive care, which doesn’t sound normal to us
but
yet we’re being officially told (not at 1100 any more right) how there’s plenty of capacity
so
how is that to be reconciled, it doesn’t make sense to us
like
maybe the healthcare workers are lying
This https://twitter.com/inquisitiveGyn/status/1436981603381563393 is the rest of the containing tfeed for any of you who like to be terrified of inspired by what’s on our doorsteps.
Be aware that it’s probably just written by a bunch of left wing trolls, at least if Your ABC is to be believed.
If only we had healthcare workers who were Upstanding Right Wing Persons and not a bunch of libtard snowflakes who spend all their time spamming social media instead of actually Doing Their Essential™ Jobs¡
some betterish knews, if governments had the wherewithal to actually provide
SCIENCE said:
some betterish knews, if governments had the wherewithal to actually provide
actually we may have posted that before, here have some other instead
https://twitter.com/syctong/status/1436937898788417537
author is a follower of Virgin Birth Baby Shark but we’ll still believe the rest of the story
(above deleted)
another curve you’ll need to fatten
SCIENCE said:
If only we had healthcare workers who were Upstanding Right Wing Persons and not a bunch of libtard snowflakes who spend all their time spamming social media instead of actually Doing Their Essential™ Jobs¡
Anti-vaxxers are creating leaflets to look like official NHS documents and cartoon posters targeting children to share misinformation about Covid vaccines.
Disclaimer: we’ven’t encountered any of these in Real Life ourselves (also we’re in Australia) so we can’t confirm independently.
SCIENCE said:
Anti-vaxxers are creating leaflets to look like official NHS documents and cartoon posters targeting children to share misinformation about Covid vaccines.
Disclaimer: we’ven’t encountered any of these in Real Life ourselves (also we’re in Australia) so we can’t confirm independently.
Dr. Siyab Panhwar, a cardiology fellow at the University of Tulane, has been using his own TikTok account to refute misinformation about ivermectin. “The unfortunate reality is that there are some doctors that push this, and it harms the entire community,” says Dr. Panhwar. “ say on their website that they will ‘review your history’ but I call B.S. There is no physical examination…How is this medically appropriate or safe? AFLD is dangerous and needs to be stopped.” The financial incentive to push products like ivermectin should be a massive red flag, Panhwar says. “The anti-vax movement as a whole is one big multi-level marketing scheme.”
https://time.com/6092368/americas-frontline-doctors-covid-19-misinformation/
shock
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
If only we had healthcare workers who were Upstanding Right Wing Persons and not a bunch of libtard snowflakes who spend all their time spamming social media instead of actually Doing Their Essential™ Jobs¡
communist libtard snowflake
SCIENCE said:
communist libtard snowflake
at least as this stitch up shows these communists have a black sense of humor
pure bile
False Equivalence
Victoria records 423 new COVID cases and two deaths
Contact tracers have linked 149 of the new cases to known outbreaks, as more organisations across Victoria move towards mandatory vaccinations.
roughbarked said:
Victoria records 423 new COVID cases and two deaths
Contact tracers have linked 149 of the new cases to known outbreaks, as more organisations across Victoria move towards mandatory vaccinations.
Here’s another shit headline from the socialists.
The concern about non-COVID deaths turned out to be overblown. Last year Australia recorded fewer than normal doctor-certified deaths, in part because the COVID restrictions stopped deaths from influenza, and in part because they snuffed out COVID-19 early, ensuring hospitals weren’t overwhelmed.
Concern about jobs also turned out to be overblown. By locking down hard and early, and paying employers to keep on staff (through JobKeeper) we ensured the lockdowns would be relatively short-lived, with light at the end of the tunnel.
—
so basically shit policies force us to make choices we should have anticipated
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Victoria records 423 new COVID cases and two deaths
Contact tracers have linked 149 of the new cases to known outbreaks, as more organisations across Victoria move towards mandatory vaccinations.
Here’s another shit headline from the socialists.
Delta variant tempts us to trade lives for freedom, a COVID-19 choice we didn’t anticipate
The concern about non-COVID deaths turned out to be overblown. Last year Australia recorded fewer than normal doctor-certified deaths, in part because the COVID restrictions stopped deaths from influenza, and in part because they snuffed out COVID-19 early, ensuring hospitals weren’t overwhelmed.
Concern about jobs also turned out to be overblown. By locking down hard and early, and paying employers to keep on staff (through JobKeeper) we ensured the lockdowns would be relatively short-lived, with light at the end of the tunnel.
—
so basically shit policies force us to make choices we should have anticipated
just keep reminding yourself the various restrictions, including border closures are large part of why things haven’t been a (more) serious disaster to-date, the argument now really is about the rollout of the virus with the vaccine, how much circulating virus you get with your vaccine, if you need any virus at all with your vaccine
some people are very keen to distract from that above, the reality you don’t have to have virus with your vaccine
keep reminding yourself NSW (and Victoria’s) problems would be much worse without elimination (elsewhere) and limiting bidirectional traffic across borders
it’s the work of the devil that some want you to forget all that above
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Victoria records 423 new COVID cases and two deaths
Contact tracers have linked 149 of the new cases to known outbreaks, as more organisations across Victoria move towards mandatory vaccinations.
Here’s another shit headline from the socialists.
Delta variant tempts us to trade lives for freedom, a COVID-19 choice we didn’t anticipate
The concern about non-COVID deaths turned out to be overblown. Last year Australia recorded fewer than normal doctor-certified deaths, in part because the COVID restrictions stopped deaths from influenza, and in part because they snuffed out COVID-19 early, ensuring hospitals weren’t overwhelmed.
Concern about jobs also turned out to be overblown. By locking down hard and early, and paying employers to keep on staff (through JobKeeper) we ensured the lockdowns would be relatively short-lived, with light at the end of the tunnel.
—
so basically shit policies force us to make choices we should have anticipated
just keep reminding yourself the various restrictions, including border closures are large part of why things haven’t been a (more) serious disaster to-date, the argument now really is about the rollout of the virus with the vaccine, how much circulating virus you get with your vaccine, if you need any virus at all with your vaccine
some people are very keen to distract from that above, the reality you don’t have to have virus with your vaccine
keep reminding yourself NSW (and Victoria’s) problems would be much worse without elimination (elsewhere) and limiting bidirectional traffic across borders
it’s the work of the devil that some want you to forget all that above
It does seem to be like that, Australia avoided tens of thousands of deaths and the collapse of our healthcare system.
Human error seems to be a capital offence in regards to this virus
Cymek said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:Here’s another shit headline from the socialists.
Delta variant tempts us to trade lives for freedom, a COVID-19 choice we didn’t anticipate
The concern about non-COVID deaths turned out to be overblown. Last year Australia recorded fewer than normal doctor-certified deaths, in part because the COVID restrictions stopped deaths from influenza, and in part because they snuffed out COVID-19 early, ensuring hospitals weren’t overwhelmed.
Concern about jobs also turned out to be overblown. By locking down hard and early, and paying employers to keep on staff (through JobKeeper) we ensured the lockdowns would be relatively short-lived, with light at the end of the tunnel.
—
so basically shit policies force us to make choices we should have anticipated
just keep reminding yourself the various restrictions, including border closures are large part of why things haven’t been a (more) serious disaster to-date, the argument now really is about the rollout of the virus with the vaccine, how much circulating virus you get with your vaccine, if you need any virus at all with your vaccine
some people are very keen to distract from that above, the reality you don’t have to have virus with your vaccine
keep reminding yourself NSW (and Victoria’s) problems would be much worse without elimination (elsewhere) and limiting bidirectional traffic across borders
it’s the work of the devil that some want you to forget all that above
It does seem to be like that, Australia avoided tens of thousands of deaths and the collapse of our healthcare system.
Human error seems to be a capital offence in regards to this virus
the fact is the government has no legal position, nobody does, to go about encouraging anything that results in the citizens of States (or the country) having circulating covid, it really is that simple
until enough people are vaccinated, with a good enough vaccine, and the status of the disease (including transmission, because the extreme contagiousness is the problem) is established to be low risk, a low enough risk, governments and all have no right to encourage its persistence in the community, and certainly have no right to deliver the virus where it does not exist
presently covid is a substantial biological hazard
I see Ballarat is to go back into lockdown. I presume that is just the City of Ballarat area, not the surrounding places like Lal Lal, Beaufort etc.
buffy said:
I see Ballarat is to go back into lockdown. I presume that is just the City of Ballarat area, not the surrounding places like Lal Lal, Beaufort etc.
I found the Government tweet in the ABC live updates – just City of Ballarat. Could make it interesting for the smaller towns for shopping, I suppose.
buffy said:
I see Ballarat is to go back into lockdown. I presume that is just the City of Ballarat area, not the surrounding places like Lal Lal, Beaufort etc.
Yes Ive heard nothing about Creswick.
buffy said:
buffy said:
I see Ballarat is to go back into lockdown. I presume that is just the City of Ballarat area, not the surrounding places like Lal Lal, Beaufort etc.I found the Government tweet in the ABC live updates – just City of Ballarat. Could make it interesting for the smaller towns for shopping, I suppose.
Ross Creek might have problems, they have a small milk bar type of shop.
Tau.Neutrino said:
buffy said:
I see Ballarat is to go back into lockdown. I presume that is just the City of Ballarat area, not the surrounding places like Lal Lal, Beaufort etc.Yes Ive heard nothing about Creswick.
You appear to be just outside the border of City of Ballarat.
https://www.viccouncils.asn.au/find-your-council/council-map
buffy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
buffy said:
I see Ballarat is to go back into lockdown. I presume that is just the City of Ballarat area, not the surrounding places like Lal Lal, Beaufort etc.Yes Ive heard nothing about Creswick.
You appear to be just outside the border of City of Ballarat.
https://www.viccouncils.asn.au/find-your-council/council-map
From what I can gather, there are 3 active cases in Ballarat.
Tau.Neutrino said:
buffy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Yes Ive heard nothing about Creswick.
You appear to be just outside the border of City of Ballarat.
https://www.viccouncils.asn.au/find-your-council/council-map
From what I can gather, there are 3 active cases in Ballarat.
Yes – from the ABC live updates:
———————————————————————————-
More on the Ballarat cases
Today there are two new cases living in the region — they’re household contacts of a case announced yesterday.
But the Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton says it’s likely there’s been a week of transmission in the community.
That’s because waste water detection picked up the virus from the 8th (and it was probably present earlier than that).
“So there are likely to be more cases and it is for that reason that going to an immediate lockdown is really the right response,” he says.
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buffy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
buffy said:You appear to be just outside the border of City of Ballarat.
https://www.viccouncils.asn.au/find-your-council/council-map
From what I can gather, there are 3 active cases in Ballarat.
Yes – from the ABC live updates:
———————————————————————————-
More on the Ballarat cases
Today there are two new cases living in the region — they’re household contacts of a case announced yesterday.
But the Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton says it’s likely there’s been a week of transmission in the community.
That’s because waste water detection picked up the virus from the 8th (and it was probably present earlier than that).
“So there are likely to be more cases and it is for that reason that going to an immediate lockdown is really the right response,” he says.
————————————————————————
Righto, thanks for that. Will be keeping a close eye on numbers.
There were 12 cases in NSW and 2 in Victoria that were inactive.
May be beyond the apex of the fifth wave, globally.
Will this be the last?
dv said:
May be beyond the apex of the fifth wave, globally.
Will this be the last?
Highly unlikely.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
May be beyond the apex of the fifth wave, globally.
Will this be the last?
Highly unlikely.
Probably continue to mutant each subsequent generations becoming deadlier
dv said:
May be beyond the apex of the fifth wave, globally.
Will this be the last?
I don’t know it’s just too unpredictable.
Norman Swan says the current NSW outbreak will peak at ~4000 a day.
Love living in queensland.
I have my second Pfizer scheduled in just over a week, but I will be out bush that week. Rang up the clinic to ask the best way to reschedule and they booked me in for tomorrow.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
May be beyond the apex of the fifth wave, globally.
Will this be the last?
I don’t know it’s just too unpredictable.
Norman Swan says the current NSW outbreak will peak at ~4000 a day.
I hope that’s cases
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
May be beyond the apex of the fifth wave, globally.
Will this be the last?
Highly unlikely.
Probably continue to mutant each subsequent generations becoming deadlier
It hasn’t so far. Delta is less deadly than earlier iterations.
buffy said:
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Highly unlikely.
Probably continue to mutant each subsequent generations becoming deadlier
It hasn’t so far. Delta is less deadly than earlier iterations.
after vaccines that reduce case fatality by 60%, B.1.617.2 has case fatality slightly but not 60% less than other strains, no confounding at all
COVID-19, is there any society it can’t heal
If anyone wants a bit of reading, Cochrane has summarised a lot of things here:
https://www.evidentlycochrane.net/cochrane-evidence-covid-19/
buffy said:
If anyone wants a bit of reading, Cochrane has summarised a lot of things here:https://www.evidentlycochrane.net/cochrane-evidence-covid-19/
I prefer Hanrahan.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
If anyone wants a bit of reading, Cochrane has summarised a lot of things here:https://www.evidentlycochrane.net/cochrane-evidence-covid-19/
I prefer Hanrahan.
Hanrahan was too much of an optomist for my liking.
fk this is stupid
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Four students from Runcorn State High School and their families have been tested for COVID-19 and will isolate at home after the students allegedly mixed at a house party with locked-down teenagers from Sunnybank’s St Thomas More College.
SCIENCE said:
fk this is stupid—
Four students from Runcorn State High School and their families have been tested for COVID-19 and will isolate at home after the students allegedly mixed at a house party with locked-down teenagers from Sunnybank’s St Thomas More College.
Human beings ?
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
fk this is stupid—
Four students from Runcorn State High School and their families have been tested for COVID-19 and will isolate at home after the students allegedly mixed at a house party with locked-down teenagers from Sunnybank’s St Thomas More College.
Human beings ?
Good point, probably it was smart, they wanted time off school, holiday at home, so much for all the arseholes banging on about how missing in person schooling would do more harm to students than having their parents and siblings killed by a mild head cold.
Has this been mentioned?
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/tiktok-guy-jonbernard-kairouz-hospitalised-in-covid19-ward/news-story/e145f3b9953f8a1eac71c30c798fc991
Jon-Bernard Kairouz, the “TikTok guy” who shot to fame for correctly “predicting” NSW’s daily cases numbers for five days in a row, has been hospitalised in a Covid-19 ward.The 24-year-old is in the ward at Kogarah’s St George Hospital along with his father, Richard Kairouz, who is believed to be in ICU fighting for life, The DailyMail reports.
Richard has reportedly been battling the virus at the hospital since September 4, and has been placed into an induced coma in the intensive care unit, sources told the publication.
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
fk this is stupid—
Four students from Runcorn State High School and their families have been tested for COVID-19 and will isolate at home after the students allegedly mixed at a house party with locked-down teenagers from Sunnybank’s St Thomas More College.
Human beings ?
Runcorn……*sucks air through teeth*………it’s not exactly a prestigious post code.
Dark Orange said:
Has this been mentioned?
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/tiktok-guy-jonbernard-kairouz-hospitalised-in-covid19-ward/news-story/e145f3b9953f8a1eac71c30c798fc991
Jon-Bernard Kairouz, the “TikTok guy” who shot to fame for correctly “predicting” NSW’s daily cases numbers for five days in a row, has been hospitalised in a Covid-19 ward.The 24-year-old is in the ward at Kogarah’s St George Hospital along with his father, Richard Kairouz, who is believed to be in ICU fighting for life, The DailyMail reports.
Richard has reportedly been battling the virus at the hospital since September 4, and has been placed into an induced coma in the intensive care unit, sources told the publication.
Not to my knowledge.
Peak Warming Man said:
Dark Orange said:
Has this been mentioned?
Jon-Bernard Kairouz, the “TikTok guy” who shot to fame for correctly “predicting” NSW’s daily cases numbers for five days in a row, has been hospitalised in a Covid-19 ward.The 24-year-old is in the ward at Kogarah’s St George Hospital along with his father, Richard Kairouz, who is believed to be in ICU fighting for life, The DailyMail reports.
Richard has reportedly been battling the virus at the hospital since September 4, and has been placed into an induced coma in the intensive care unit, sources told the publication.
Not to my knowledge.
Aha see it really is a conspiracy, they’re torturing our informant, they’re silencing dissent, the police state is reaching ¡
SCIENCE said:
Peak Warming Man said:Dark Orange said:
Has this been mentioned?
Jon-Bernard Kairouz, the “TikTok guy” who shot to fame for correctly “predicting” NSW’s daily cases numbers for five days in a row, has been hospitalised in a Covid-19 ward.The 24-year-old is in the ward at Kogarah’s St George Hospital along with his father, Richard Kairouz, who is believed to be in ICU fighting for life, The DailyMail reports.
Richard has reportedly been battling the virus at the hospital since September 4, and has been placed into an induced coma in the intensive care unit, sources told the publication.
Not to my knowledge.
Aha see it really is a conspiracy, they’re torturing our informant, they’re silencing dissent, the police state is reaching ¡
ve haff ways of making you not talk
Dark Orange said:
Has this been mentioned?
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/tiktok-guy-jonbernard-kairouz-hospitalised-in-covid19-ward/news-story/e145f3b9953f8a1eac71c30c798fc991
Jon-Bernard Kairouz, the “TikTok guy” who shot to fame for correctly “predicting” NSW’s daily cases numbers for five days in a row, has been hospitalised in a Covid-19 ward.The 24-year-old is in the ward at Kogarah’s St George Hospital along with his father, Richard Kairouz, who is believed to be in ICU fighting for life, The DailyMail reports.
Richard has reportedly been battling the virus at the hospital since September 4, and has been placed into an induced coma in the intensive care unit, sources told the publication.
Never heard of him. But then…TikTok…
Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
fk this is stupid—
Four students from Runcorn State High School and their families have been tested for COVID-19 and will isolate at home after the students allegedly mixed at a house party with locked-down teenagers from Sunnybank’s St Thomas More College.
Human beings ?
Runcorn……*sucks air through teeth*………it’s not exactly a prestigious post code.
It was to be expected that humans would react the way they are in regards to Covid, people do dumb things all the time.
ah well some good news (¿) at least
We got our second AX vax’s today. And got vaccination history certificates from the Practice.
:)
Most pleased.
My internet should be cheaper now we have the 4G chips implanted.
SCIENCE said:
fk this is stupid—
Four students from Runcorn State High School and their families have been tested for COVID-19 and will isolate at home after the students allegedly mixed at a house party with locked-down teenagers from Sunnybank’s St Thomas More College.
Yep. Some people are stupid.
Teens often think they are ten foot tall and bulletproof.
Michael V said:
We got our second AX vax’s today. And got vaccination history certificates from the Practice.:)
Most pleased.
My internet should be cheaper now we have the 4G chips implanted.
Gosh, that Italian family at the next table sure is quiet
Michael V said:
We got our second AX vax’s today. And got vaccination history certificates from the Practice.:)
Most pleased.
My internet should be cheaper now we have the 4G chips implanted.
:)
SCIENCE said:
ah well some good news (¿) at least
Reckless Troll, nothing good about him.
SCIENCE said:
ah well some good news (¿) at least
I didn’t open the link in the text, I don’t open anything with my phone, but did go to the proper source and have a thorough read
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
May be beyond the apex of the fifth wave, globally.
Will this be the last?
Highly unlikely.
^
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
May be beyond the apex of the fifth wave, globally.
Will this be the last?
Highly unlikely.
^
oh c’m‘on it’s nothing, a mild head cold that being endemic will wave goodbye like your cousin happily training into the sunset, we mean look at jokers getting it wrong like this
clearly the correct view is to Now Do™ death rate, we have plenty more Dry Tinder™ than they did 103 years ago
Clearly Caused By Lockdowns
You Thought It Was Because Exceptional But UK Delays Might Have Extended Vaccine Effectiveness
and since it applies to both most common vaccines, Homegrown Advantage / Not Invented Here shouldn’t apply
…
so was the other one better after all
SCIENCE said:
Clearly Caused By Lockdowns
Are they saying that there were no orphans in Feb 2020?
Dark Orange said:
SCIENCE said:
Clearly Caused By Lockdowns
Are they saying that there were no orphans in Feb 2020?
well that’s why we headlined it the way we did, someone smarter than us would have to find the originating sources and review them to evaluate the claims
but some good news for y’all anyway
Israel we think
if this is valid then we need a few more steps and really even optimists like us will be ready to throw the solar panels open
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:Witty Rejoinder said:
Highly unlikely.
^
oh c’m‘on it’s nothing, a mild head cold that being endemic will wave goodbye like your cousin happily training into the sunset, we mean look at jokers getting it wrong like this
clearly the correct view is to Now Do™ death rate, we have plenty more Dry Tinder™ than they did 103 years ago
I’d avoid that Dry Tinder site
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
^
oh c’m‘on it’s nothing, a mild head cold that being endemic will wave goodbye like your cousin happily training into the sunset, we mean look at jokers getting it wrong like this
clearly the correct view is to Now Do™ death rate, we have plenty more Dry Tinder™ than they did 103 years ago
I’d avoid that Dry Tinder site
True apparently 3nder was a better place to go looking for a clusterfuck, even if Dr Tom says we cannot become hardened.
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:^
oh c’m‘on it’s nothing, a mild head cold that being endemic will wave goodbye like your cousin happily training into the sunset, we mean look at jokers getting it wrong like this
clearly the correct view is to Now Do™ death rate, we have plenty more Dry Tinder™ than they did 103 years ago
I’d avoid that Dry Tinder site
giggle
oh wait not the local economy
SCIENCE said:
Even Better News: These Profits Are Part Of The Economy Must Grow
oh wait not the local economy
Everybody knows that Liberals are the best economic managers.
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
Even Better News: These Profits Are Part Of The Economy Must Grow
oh wait not the local economy
Everybody knows that Liberals are the best economic managers.
think how much worse it would have been if it was the other fellas
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
fk this is stupid—
Four students from Runcorn State High School and their families have been tested for COVID-19 and will isolate at home after the students allegedly mixed at a house party with locked-down teenagers from Sunnybank’s St Thomas More College.
Yep. Some people are stupid.
Teens often think they are ten foot tall and bulletproof.
Getting a root is more important than anything else.
They have no idea that they have the rest of their life for that.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
ah well some good news (¿) at least
Reckless Troll, nothing good about him.
He could be rendered down for his fatty tissues. Seems to have a lot of that between his ears.
These peple who enter politics should have the fat cell count in their brains tested before they spread their alzheimers all over our TV screens.
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
Even Better News: These Profits Are Part Of The Economy Must Grow
oh wait not the local economy
Everybody knows that Liberals are the best economic managers.
I dispute that. They can drone on for all they are worth on that misinformation. It is still a great lie.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
Even Better News: These Profits Are Part Of The Economy Must Grow
oh wait not the local economy
Everybody knows that Liberals are the best economic managers.
I dispute that. They can drone on for all they are worth on that misinformation. It is still a great lie.
I could be wrong, but I suspect that S’sM was engaging in a little irony, if not sarcasm.
beats chest We’re back up there with the big boys again now. A game player and changer!
Lismore case could threaten Queensland border bubble
…… watch this space.
Woodie said:
beats chest We’re back up there with the big boys again now. A game player and changer!Lismore case could threaten Queensland border bubble
…… watch this space.
Better not otherwise there’ll be trouble.
Woodie said:
beats chest We’re back up there with the big boys again now. A game player and changer!Lismore case could threaten Queensland border bubble
…… watch this space.
sigh
More glad exports…
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:Everybody knows that Liberals are the best economic managers.
I dispute that. They can drone on for all they are worth on that misinformation. It is still a great lie.
I could be wrong, but I suspect that S’sM was engaging in a little irony, if not sarcasm.
I knew that but was extending the argument.
Australia passed peak new cases?
15/9 – 1,650
14/9
13/9
12/9
11/9 – 2,043 = peak
10/9
9/9
8/9 – 1,690
mollwollfumble said:
Australia passed peak new cases?15/9 – 1,650
14/9
13/9
12/9
11/9 – 2,043 = peak
10/9
9/9
8/9 – 1,690
7 day moving average says not quite yet.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/
buffy said:
mollwollfumble said:
Australia passed peak new cases?15/9 – 1,650
14/9
13/9
12/9
11/9 – 2,043 = peak
10/9
9/9
8/9 – 1,690
7 day moving average says not quite yet.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/
Worldometer is showing 1868 for today.
We shall see.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
mollwollfumble said:
Australia passed peak new cases?15/9 – 1,650
14/9
13/9
12/9
11/9 – 2,043 = peak
10/9
9/9
8/9 – 1,690
7 day moving average says not quite yet.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/
Worldometer is showing 1868 for today.
We shall see.
don’t worry we’re moving from high numbers in big households to high numbers spread over many households so soon it will be even harder to contain and the party can get started
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
fk this is stupid
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Four students from Runcorn State High School and their families have been tested for COVID-19 and will isolate at home after the students allegedly mixed at a house party with locked-down teenagers from Sunnybank’s St Thomas More College.
Yep. Some people are stupid.
Teens often think they are ten foot tall and bulletproof.
Getting a root is more important than anything else.
They have no idea that they have the rest of their life for that.
it’ll be a short life but don’t worry we need a new generation to abuse, to force infection upon with no protective measures
wait
nah those are just puppets for their parents, in reality children want to go out and spread germs and get infected
Your ABC Continues To Do The Let’s Catch Up 6 Months Late Thing
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-16/queensland-what-happened-to-the-flu-in-2021/100456616
Before COVID-19 arrived, the number of influenza cases was reaching some of its highest levels, with 313,033 notifications of laboratory-confirmed influenza across Australia in 2019 — 2.7 times higher than the five-year average — and 953 deaths.
In 2020, there were more than 20,000 notifications to the National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System (NNDSS) and 37 deaths.
This year, to August 29, just 484 cases were recorded and zero deaths.
—
Note this though.
University of Queensland virologist Dr Kirsty Short said the main reason behind the low circulation of flu was the closure of international borders.
What are we saying here ¿
Interesting.
SCIENCE said:
Your ABC Continues To Do The Let’s Catch Up 6 Months Late Thinghttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-16/queensland-what-happened-to-the-flu-in-2021/100456616
Before COVID-19 arrived, the number of influenza cases was reaching some of its highest levels, with 313,033 notifications of laboratory-confirmed influenza across Australia in 2019 — 2.7 times higher than the five-year average — and 953 deaths.
In 2020, there were more than 20,000 notifications to the National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System (NNDSS) and 37 deaths.
This year, to August 29, just 484 cases were recorded and zero deaths.
—
Note this though.
University of Queensland virologist Dr Kirsty Short said the main reason behind the low circulation of flu was the closure of international borders.
What are we saying here ¿
- Solid border and no leakage means no infection ¿
- Infection control measures contribute nothing (are not required locally) if there is no introduced disease ¿
Interesting.
people could be a bit quieter about their likely-not-covid-lurgies also, practicing staying at home to die, all part of the new world order you know, before you can march the streets campaigning against release of the virus you’re in lockdown, sipping a hot cup of shut the fuck up while watching the ABC
I’ve abridged this article somewhat since a lot of tables would have been very laborious to format:
…
The pandemic marks another grim milestone: 1 in 500 Americans have died of covid-19
By Dan Keating, Akilah Johnson and Monica Ulmanu
Updated Sept. 15 at 9:00 a.m.
Originally published Sept. 15, 2021
At a certain point, it was no longer a matter of if the United States would reach the gruesome milestone of 1 in 500 people dying of covid-19, but a matter of when. A year? Maybe 15 months? The answer: 19 months.
Given the mortality rate from covid and our nation’s population size, “we’re kind of where we predicted we would be with completely uncontrolled spread of infection,” said Jeffrey D. Klausner, clinical professor of medicine, population and public health sciences at the University of Southern California’s Keck School of Medicine. “Remember at the very beginning, which we don’t hear about anymore, it was all about flatten the curve.”
The idea, he said, was to prevent “the humanitarian disaster” that occurred in New York City, where ambulance sirens were a constant as hospitals were overwhelmed and mortuaries needed mobile units to handle the additional dead.
The goal of testing, mask-wearing, keeping six feet apart and limiting gatherings was to slow the spread of the highly infectious virus until a vaccine could stamp it out. The vaccines came but not enough people have been immunized, and the triumph of science waned as mass death and disease remain. The result: As the nation’s covid death toll exceeded 663,000 this week, it meant roughly 1 in every 500 Americans had succumbed to the disease caused by the coronavirus.
People older than 85 make up only 2 percent of the population, but a quarter of the total death toll. One in 35 people 85 or older died of covid, compared with 1 in 780 people age 40 to 64.
While covid’s death toll overwhelms the imagination, even more stunning is the deadly efficiency with which it has targeted Black, Latino, and American Indian and Alaska Native people in their 30s, 40s and 50s.
Death rates for younger groups, 40 to 64 years old, are much lower, but racial inequities grow larger.
Death at a younger age represents more lost years of life. Lost potential. Lost scholarship. Lost mentorship. Lost earnings. Lost love.
Neighborhoods decimated. Families destroyed.
“So often when we think about the majority of the country who have lost people to covid-19, we think about the elders that have been lost, not necessarily younger people,” said Abigail Echo-Hawk, executive vice president at the Seattle Indian Health Board and director of the Urban Indian Health Institute. “Unfortunately, this is not my reality nor that of the Native community. I lost cousins and fathers and tribal leaders. People that were so integral to building up our community, which has already been struggling for centuries against all these things that created the perfect environment for covid-19 to kill us.”
“This is trauma. This is generational impact that we must have an intentional focus on. The scars are there,” said Marcella Nunez-Smith, chair of President Biden’s COVID-19 Health Equity Task Force and associate dean for health equity research at Yale University. “We can’t think that we’re going to test and vaccinate our way out of this deep pain and hurt.”
In the younger working-age group, 18 to 39 years old, the racial differences are even greater, with covid killing Blacks and Hispanics more than three times as often as Whites, and Native Americans almost nine times as much.
The pandemic has brought into stark relief centuries of entwining social, environmental, economic and political factors that erode the health and shorten the lives of people of color, putting them at higher risk of the chronic conditions that leave immune systems vulnerable to the coronavirus. Many of those same factors fuel the misinformation, mistrust and fear that leave too many unprotected.
Take the suggestion that people talk to their doctor about which symptoms warrant testing or a trip to the hospital as well as the safety of vaccines. Seems simple. It’s not.
Many people don’t have a physician they see regularly due in part to significant provider shortages in communities of color. If they do have a doctor, it can cost too much money for a visit even if insured. There are language barriers for those who don’t speak English fluently and fear of deportation among undocumented immigrants.
“Some of the issues at hand are structural issues, things that are built into the fabric of society,” said Enrique W. Neblett Jr., a University of Michigan professor who studies racism and health.
Essential workers who cannot avoid the virus in their jobs because they do not have the luxury of working from home. People living in multigenerational homes with several adult wage-earners, sharing housing because their pay is so low. Even the fight to be counted among the covid casualties — some states and hospitals, Echo-Hawk said, don’t have “even a box to check to say you are American Indian or Alaskan Native.”
It can be difficult to tackle the structural issues influencing the unequal burden of the pandemic while dealing with the day-to-day stress and worry it ignites, which, Neblett said, is why attention must focus on both long-term solutions and “what do we do now? It’s not just that simple as, ‘Oh, you just put on your mask, and we’ll all be good.’ It’s more complicated than that.”
Although nationally there is no difference in death rates between urban, suburban and rural areas, states with the lowest death rates are mostly sparser areas, such as Vermont and Utah.
The exacting toll of the last year and a half — covid’s stranglehold on communities of color and George Floyd’s murder — forced the country to interrogate the genealogy of American racism and its effect on health and well-being.
“This is an instance where we finally named it and talked about structural racism as a contributing factor in ways that we haven’t with other health disorders,” Neblett said.
But the nation’s attention span can be short. Polls show there was a sharp rise in concern about discrimination against Black Americans by police following Floyd’s murder, including among White Americans. That concern has eroded some since 2020, though it does remain higher than years past.
“This mistaken understanding that people have, almost this sort of impatience like, ‘Oh, we see racism. Let’s just fix that,’ that’s the thing that gives me hives,” Nunez-Smith said. “This is about generational investments and fundamental changes in ways of being. We didn’t get here overnight.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2021/1-in-500-covid-deaths/?
So the 1 in 500 (0.002) number is total deaths/total known cases I suppose.
From Worldometers;
Deaths = 685,023
Known/recorded (whatever) cases = 42,479,780
685,023/42,479,780 = 0.016
Is there an order of magnitude problem there or is it me? Oh, hang on, it’s 685,023/total population of the USA. OK. I must have been thinking oddly. Most times people are talking about how many die per how many catch the thing.
SCIENCE said:
Your ABC Continues To Do The Let’s Catch Up 6 Months Late Thing
In Israel, preliminary data suggests people vaccinated in April and May have better protection against infection than people vaccinated back in January. It’s difficult, however, to distinguish how much this waning effect owes to the vaccines, and how much is influenced by the rise of the Delta variant, the relaxing of restrictions, and the health status of people first vaccinated — many of whom are older and have underlying health conditions.
… sure …
https://www.fda.gov/media/152161/download
“waning immunity not related to Delta, just a matter of time, 6% reduction of VE every 2 months”, ‘e said
…
In Israel, preliminary data suggests a third dose of the vaccine dramatically reduces the risk of COVID-19 infection, two weeks after the shot is administered. This makes sense, as circulating antibodies help the immune system to prevent viruses taking hold. But the real question is: how long do these high antibody levels produced by booster vaccines last? And are they likely to reduce overall virus transmission in a sustained way?
… right …
https://www.fda.gov/media/152161/download#page=45
“massive effect in terms of reducing infections (suggest big public health benefit in stopping spread) and severe”, ‘e said
…
Data consistently shows vaccine-induced protection against severe disease and death is holding strong months after vaccination, even against the Delta variant. But health authorities in Israel have forged ahead with booster shots for the general population anyway, amid concerns the protection vaccines provide against getting infected and having mild disease is declining over time. “At the sixth-month mark, we still have very good protection against hospitalisation and death, but perhaps a bit of waning immunity … down from about 90 per cent to 65 per cent,” Dr Wood said.
We mean, how dare anyone consider an important function of vaccines to be prevention of infection (including mild disease) and therefore ongoing transmission ¿ We mean, the article itself asks “And are they likely to reduce overall virus transmission in a sustained way?” . We mean, what the fuck are all the “let’s have Flock Immunity™ by Natural Infection™ psychopaths saying now when there’s a vaccine available to try to get there ¿ “Oh er um phwaff Flock Immunity™ was never our strategy¡ We just wanted to Cull The Weak™¡ Vaccine won’t help us do that¡” ¿
This headline is misleading, IMHO:
“COVID-19 going undetected in Queensland-NSW border zone sewage testing due to high number of septic tanks”
“possibly”, “might be”, “may be” should be added to make the headline more truthful, and less alarmist.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-17/qld-coronavirus-covid-nsw-border-zone-sewage-testing-fail/100463706
Michael V said:
This headline is misleading, IMHO:“COVID-19 going undetected in Queensland-NSW border zone sewage testing due to high number of septic tanks”
“possibly”, “might be”, “may be” should be added to make the headline more truthful, and less alarmist.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-17/qld-coronavirus-covid-nsw-border-zone-sewage-testing-fail/100463706
Agree.
QLD: one new community transmission, linked to the current cluster and already in home quarantine.
Good.
Also:
“A truck driver has been charged after allegedly driving through border barriers in Queensland.
The alleged incident took place in the Queensland town of Texas.
The driver had allegedly been turned around a day earlier at Goondiwindi, about 100 kilometres away.
He was charged with unlawfully entering Queensland and willful damage.
Here’s what Deputy police commissioner Steve Gollschewski said:
“And unfortunately, an arrest at Texas in southern Darling Downs where a truck driver, having been refused entry into Goondiwindi, the day before came through there, and decided to drive their prime mover through our barriers causing more damage.”
“ has been charged with unlawfully entering Queensland and wilful damage, and will appear in court at later date.”
“The truck driver is an interstate truck driver.
“They were directed to go back to New South Wales.”“
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Why, oh why do people do this sort of stuff? It doesn’t help them and doesn’t help society.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-17/covid-live-blog-vaccine-blitz-over-60s-pfizer-jabs-pop-clinics/100469408
Michael V said:
QLD: one new community transmission, linked to the current cluster and already in home quarantine.Good.
Also:
“A truck driver has been charged after allegedly driving through border barriers in Queensland.
The alleged incident took place in the Queensland town of Texas.
The driver had allegedly been turned around a day earlier at Goondiwindi, about 100 kilometres away.
He was charged with unlawfully entering Queensland and willful damage.
Here’s what Deputy police commissioner Steve Gollschewski said:
“And unfortunately, an arrest at Texas in southern Darling Downs where a truck driver, having been refused entry into Goondiwindi, the day before came through there, and decided to drive their prime mover through our barriers causing more damage.”
“ has been charged with unlawfully entering Queensland and wilful damage, and will appear in court at later date.”
“The truck driver is an interstate truck driver.
“They were directed to go back to New South Wales.”“
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Why, oh why do people do this sort of stuff? It doesn’t help them and doesn’t help society.
—————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-17/covid-live-blog-vaccine-blitz-over-60s-pfizer-jabs-pop-clinics/100469408
Texas explains a lot
Michael V said:
QLD: one new community transmission, linked to the current cluster and already in home quarantine.Good.
Also:
“A truck driver has been charged after allegedly driving through border barriers in Queensland.
The alleged incident took place in the Queensland town of Texas.
The driver had allegedly been turned around a day earlier at Goondiwindi, about 100 kilometres away.
He was charged with unlawfully entering Queensland and willful damage.
Here’s what Deputy police commissioner Steve Gollschewski said:
“And unfortunately, an arrest at Texas in southern Darling Downs where a truck driver, having been refused entry into Goondiwindi, the day before came through there, and decided to drive their prime mover through our barriers causing more damage.”
“ has been charged with unlawfully entering Queensland and wilful damage, and will appear in court at later date.”
“The truck driver is an interstate truck driver.
“They were directed to go back to New South Wales.”“
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Why, oh why do people do this sort of stuff? It doesn’t help them and doesn’t help society.
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Ice.
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
QLD: one new community transmission, linked to the current cluster and already in home quarantine.
Good.
Also:
“A truck driver has been charged after allegedly driving through border barriers in Queensland.
The alleged incident took place in the Queensland town of Texas.
The driver had allegedly been turned around a day earlier at Goondiwindi, about 100 kilometres away.
He was charged with unlawfully entering Queensland and willful damage.
Here’s what Deputy police commissioner Steve Gollschewski said:
“And unfortunately, an arrest at Texas in southern Darling Downs where a truck driver, having been refused entry into Goondiwindi, the day before came through there, and decided to drive their prime mover through our barriers causing more damage.”
“ has been charged with unlawfully entering Queensland and wilful damage, and will appear in court at later date.”
“The truck driver is an interstate truck driver.
“They were directed to go back to New South Wales.”“
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Why, oh why do people do this sort of stuff? It doesn’t help them and doesn’t help society.
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Texas explains a lot
Well people say it’s a one horse town
There’s nothing much to do when the sun goes down
Singing out loud at the Royal Hotel
You get a beer get a feed get a fight as well
You ever need to find me write me a letter
Drop it in the mailbox and tell them to deliver it to
Texas QLD 4385
And it’s home sweet home
Out on the border line
Well this is not the USA
We do things our own way
At Texas QLD 4385
Well Amy lives out on the Nebo road
She took a trip to Warwick to the rodeo
Well the boys up there could see she was hot
Buzzing like bees round the honey pot
They tried to crack her code
Tried to get her number
She took out a pen and she scratched down something about
Texas QLD 4385
And it’s home sweet home
Out on the border line
Well this is not the USA
We do things our own way
At Texas QLD 4385
And all the fella’s say hey-ya hey-ya
And all the girls say hey-ya hey-ya
Everybody says hey-ya hey-ya
And said hey (hey) ho (ho)…
Texas QLD 4385
And it’s home sweet home
Out on the border line
I’m not talking about the USA
It’s just a little country town off the main highway
And it’s Texas QLD 4385
Texas
Texas QLD 4385
I’m glad mrs m has a lot more patience than I have.
Rampant antivaxxer was on the phone right now boasting at how great it was that lawyers are after the state government for anti-lockdown and have now got a firm hearing date.
mrs m lasted 15 minutes on the phone before prempterily ending the conversation. I would not have had that much patience.
I just got a message from the Vic Department of health:
Go get tested you’re a tier 2 exposure risk. Bugger.
sibeen said:
I just got a message from the Vic Department of health:Go get tested you’re a tier 2 exposure risk. Bugger.
Unclean! Unclean! Unclean!
sibeen said:
I just got a message from the Vic Department of health:Go get tested you’re a tier 2 exposure risk. Bugger.
Take a book and an armchair, in case there’s a queue.
mollwollfumble said:
I’m glad mrs m has a lot more patience than I have.Rampant antivaxxer was on the phone right now boasting at how great it was that lawyers are after the state government for anti-lockdown and have now got a firm hearing date.
mrs m lasted 15 minutes on the phone before prempterily ending the conversation. I would not have had that much patience.
Was this a cold call? Or a friend?
sibeen said:
I just got a message from the Vic Department of health:Go get tested you’re a tier 2 exposure risk. Bugger.
You been on a building site in Box Hill, have you?
buffy said:
sibeen said:
I just got a message from the Vic Department of health:Go get tested you’re a tier 2 exposure risk. Bugger.
You been on a building site in Box Hill, have you?
Be interesting to get that here mid morning. The only testing site is 30km away and only open from 10.00am to 12noon. (or it was, I haven’t looked lately)
buffy said:
sibeen said:
I just got a message from the Vic Department of health:Go get tested you’re a tier 2 exposure risk. Bugger.
You been on a building site in Box Hill, have you?
A Coles.
sibeen said:
I just got a message from the Vic Department of health:Go get tested you’re a tier 2 exposure risk. Bugger.
Uh-oh…
The NSW Government and the Commonwealth have also announced plans to begin a trial of home quarantine in Greater Sydney that will start within weeks.
The pilot, to be operated and monitored by NSW Health and NSW Police, will trial a seven day home quarantine program for about 175 people.
Currently people coming to NSW from overseas must quarantine in a hotel for 14 days.
Participants in the pilot must have had both doses of a TGA-accredited COVID-19 vaccine.
The participants will be selected by NSW Health, based on a risk assessment framework, and may include some NSW residents, some non-Australian residents and some Qantas air crew.
The isolation period will be reduced from 14 to seven days.
The pilot program is being run in partnership with the Commonwealth Government.
The NSW Premier also said “I can confirm that New South Wales’s government has started work … on our 80 per cent plan and what happens at 80 per cent double dose. One of the things that we expect to occur at 80 per cent of all those is to consider our international borders.”
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“We are in the midst of the biggest outbreak of this COVID epidemic, so we’ll test halving quarantine time, and making that quarantine largely unsupervised.” Great stuff, NSW, great stuff. Not!
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-17/covid-live-blog-vaccine-blitz-over-60s-pfizer-jabs-pop-clinics/100469408
The Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union (CFMEU) has denied the actions by construction workers which blocked several major intersections and tram lines in Melbourne’s CBD were a protest.
The industry has been linked to a number of growing clusters, with the government earlier warning this week construction sites were “on notice” after documented compliance breaches.
Under the tightened rules, workers are being prioritised for vaccines and must have received at least one dose by Thursday, September 23, or they will not be allowed to work.
Travel in and out of Melbourne for work is also banned, while tea rooms have been closed to counter COVID spread.
Construction workers wearing high-vis clothing blocking tram tracks.
The lying shit.
at least the foreground fella has a mask on
sibeen said:
The Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union (CFMEU) has denied the actions by construction workers which blocked several major intersections and tram lines in Melbourne’s CBD were a protest.The industry has been linked to a number of growing clusters, with the government earlier warning this week construction sites were “on notice” after documented compliance breaches.
Under the tightened rules, workers are being prioritised for vaccines and must have received at least one dose by Thursday, September 23, or they will not be allowed to work.
Travel in and out of Melbourne for work is also banned, while tea rooms have been closed to counter COVID spread.
Construction workers wearing high-vis clothing blocking tram tracks.
The lying shit.
Mate they’ve closed the tea room
Michael V said:
The NSW Government and the Commonwealth have also announced plans to begin a trial of home quarantine in Greater Sydney that will start within weeks.
The pilot, to be operated and monitored by NSW Health and NSW Police, will trial a seven day home quarantine program for about 175 people.
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“We are in the midst of the biggest outbreak of this COVID epidemic, so we’ll test halving quarantine time, and making that quarantine largely unsupervised.” Great stuff, NSW, great stuff. Not!
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well it’s the perfect cover for when it’s otherwise going to be shown to be leaky right
National Cabinet has wrapped up, and there won’t be a press conference
Federal, state and territory leaders have issued a joint statement, insisting their discussions at National Cabinet must be kept confidential.
The Commonwealth introduced legislation allowing National Cabinet’s deliberations to be kept secret, following a legal challenge from independent Senator Rex Patrick.
In a statement issued after today’s meeting, leaders said the confidentiality of National Cabinet had allowed them to deal with issues quickly during the pandemic and must be maintained.
“The disclosure of National Cabinet documents or discussions other than in accordance with the principles agreed by National Cabinet would undermine its effective operation and severely damage relations between the Commonwealth and the States and Territories,” the statement said.
“It would potentially expose negotiations and discussions before their conclusion and prevent the open flow of information between members of the National Cabinet.
“This would undermine the trust between the Commonwealth and the States and Territories and would prevent full and frank discussions that achieve the best outcomes for the Australian public.”
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Hmmmmmmmm.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-17/covid-live-blog-vaccine-blitz-over-60s-pfizer-jabs-pop-clinics/100469408
For the interested, but we’re done. The level of seeming idiocy is literally breathtaking.
Also there must have been a clearer graphical way of representing this but hey whatever not our job.
Two of these people were in their 20s, three people were in their 50s, one person was in their 60s, two people were in their 70s, three people were in their 80s, and one person was in their 90s.
Seven of the 12 people who died were not vaccinated, two people had received one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine and three people were fully vaccinated.
A woman in her 20s from western Sydney died at Nepean Hospital. She had received one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine and had underlying health conditions.
A woman in her 20s died at Gosford Hospital. She was not vaccinated. She was a resident of the Life Without Barriers group home in Wyong, where she acquired her infection.
Three people who died were residents of aged care facilities in Dubbo. A woman in her 80s died at the Holy Spirit aged care facility. She was fully vaccinated and is the first death linked to an outbreak at this facility.
A woman in her 90s, who was fully vaccinated, and a man in his 80s, who was partially vaccinated, died at St Mary’s Villa aged care facility in Dubbo. There have now been three deaths associated with an outbreak at this facility.
Two people from western Sydney – a man in his 50s and a woman in her 80s – died at their homes and their COVID-19 infections were diagnosed following their deaths. Neither person was vaccinated.
Don’t worry we should charge full steam ahead, we’re stronger than and not as dirty as ASIANS so we’ll win and our Economy Must Grow better than them, we’re exceptional.
Eighty-one per cent of the entire population is fully vaccinated – excluding under-12s, it is 90% – and the number of seriously ill patients is fairly low overall. Just four people have died in the past 28 days, all of whom were unvaccinated, according to the health ministry. However, the number of those seriously ill is increasing. The number of patients requiring oxygen doubled to 54 on Sunday from two days before, an important gauge to judge whether the medical system could get overwhelmed.
In China, Putian, a city of 3.2 million, ordered testing of all residents on Tuesday after Delta variant cases linked to a returnee from Singapore ballooned into a province-wide outbreak of more than 100 people.
QLD: One new community transmission case, in home quarantine, not out and about.
Good!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-18/covid-live-blog-moderna-vaccine-nsw-vic-lockdown/100472150
ChrispenEvan said:
sibeen said:
I just got a message from the Vic Department of health:Go get tested you’re a tier 2 exposure risk. Bugger.
Unclean! Unclean! Unclean!
I have a text message confirming that I am as pure as the driven snow.
sibeen said:
ChrispenEvan said:
sibeen said:
I just got a message from the Vic Department of health:Go get tested you’re a tier 2 exposure risk. Bugger.
Unclean! Unclean! Unclean!
I have a text message confirming that I am as pure as the driven snow.
Huzzah!
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sibeen said:
ChrispenEvan said:
Unclean! Unclean! Unclean!
I have a text message confirming that I am as pure as the driven snow.
Huzzah!
so apparently Not Me Not I Innocent isn’t the unstoppable scary strain with impossible to prevent spread that the Gutless Standard suggests it is
Michael V said:
QLD: One new community transmission case, in home quarantine, not out and about.
Good!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-18/covid-live-blog-moderna-vaccine-nsw-vic-lockdown/100472150
bronze standard
not particularly interesting or surprising how they spin this as struggling
whereas if it happened in Gutless Wuhland they’d be gushing about how good everyone is at going for threshold
sibeen said:
ChrispenEvan said:
sibeen said:
I just got a message from the Vic Department of health:Go get tested you’re a tier 2 exposure risk. Bugger.
Unclean! Unclean! Unclean!
I have a text message confirming that I am as pure as the driven snow.
That’s good to hear.
Some Aboriginal communities with lower jab rates say they will stay closed when borders reopen
F’k This Is Total Roentgenium Standard
Critical procedures, including angiograms, pacemakers, stent and valve replacements, were called off at St Vincent’s Hospital in Darlinghurst last week after the nurses worked shifts across at least four cardiac wards.
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clutches chest
imagine being such a hypercapitalist that the only kind of “support” you can imagine is financial, and therefore you leap into libel
Sweden check…now at number 43 on the deaths per million population chart. Overtaken recently by Aruba and Martinique.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
buffy said:
Sweden check…now at number 43 on the deaths per million population chart. Overtaken recently by Aruba and Martinique.https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Sounds like a beach boys song
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
buffy said:
Sweden check…now at number 43 on the deaths per million population chart. Overtaken recently by Aruba and Martinique.https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Sounds like a beach boys song
I’m not particularly good at knowing the Caribbean islands names, but I don’t thing most of them have been going so well with this virus.
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
buffy said:
Sweden check…now at number 43 on the deaths per million population chart. Overtaken recently by Aruba and Martinique.https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Sounds like a beach boys song
LOL
buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
buffy said:
Sweden check…now at number 43 on the deaths per million population chart. Overtaken recently by Aruba and Martinique.https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Sounds like a beach boys song
I’m not particularly good at knowing the Caribbean islands names, but I don’t thing most of them have been going so well with this virus.
thing = think
buffy said:
buffy said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:Sounds like a beach boys song
I’m not particularly good at knowing the Caribbean islands names, but I don’t thing most of them have been going so well with this virus.
thing = think
I noticed that but thought it’s Saturday night, let’s not go all Taliban over a typo.
shill
young fella without any preexisting conditions
pity about the other 1148 who didn’t make it
Anyway to temper that good news for all of you, then there’s this.
Dealing the White House a stinging setback, a government advisory panel overwhelmingly rejected a plan to give Pfizer COVID-19 booster shots across the board, instead endorsing the extra dose only for those who are 65 or older or run a high risk of severe disease.
“I don’t think a booster dose is going to significantly contribute to controlling the pandemic,” said Dr Cody Meissner of Tufts University. “And I think it’s important that the main message we transmit is that we’ve got to get everyone two doses.”
World Health Organisation (WHO) chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan says current data does not indicate that COVID-19 booster shots are needed.
The FDA panel’s overwhelming initial rejection came despite full-throated arguments about the need for boosters from both Pfizer and health officials from Israel, which began offering boosters to its citizens in July. Sharon Alroy-Preis of Israel’s Ministry of Health said the booster dose improves protection tenfold against infection in people 60 and older. “It’s like a fresh vaccine,” bringing protection back to original levels and helping Israel “dampen severe cases in the fourth wave,” she said.
Both Pfizer and the Israeli representatives faced pushback from panellists. Several were sceptical about the relevance of Israel’s experience to the U.S. Another concern was whether third doses would exacerbate serious side effects. Meissner said he was worried about extra doses for younger age groups, given the risk of heart inflammation that has been seen in mostly younger men after a second dose. While the condition is very rare, he said, it is not clear if that risk would increase with another dose.
Dr Paul Offit, a vaccine expert at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, said he was supportive of a third dose for adults over 60 or 65, but “I really have trouble” supporting it for anyone down to age 16. While an extra shot likely will at least temporarily decrease cases with mild or no symptoms, “the question becomes what will be the impact of that on the arc of the pandemic, which may not be all that much,” Offit said.
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So in a rare moment of terse bitterness that you’ll all no doubt enjoy as a contrast to our usual detailed analysis, we offer the following.
oh one more thing
SCIENCE said:
oh one more thing
Just something to watch out for, we haven’t got good information one way or another but they have a map like so
which isn’t fully up to date, but you can scroll through the dates to look at the geographic pattern.
Essentially it’s possible that while incidence looks like it’s holding stable and perhaps liable to drop if NSWuhan play it right
the single number could mask a dangerous shift (just like falling earlier strains and rising new strains appeared stable in various countries for a while before B.1.617.2 blew up in everyone’s faces).
Anyway, just a possibility to watch out for, the data don’t clearly show it is the case yet (compare below), but yeah the jokers are threatening to lift the lid so that nuclear family household could be nuclear fission any time now.
You can also find a similar map for vaccination on a different page.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/nsw-covid-19-vaccination-map/100387416
However, Mr Hunt wrote back to the society a month later saying the jury was still out on the effectiveness of drugs such as Tocilizumab in treating COVID-19 and that the government did not need to rush to procure the drug.
“Australia currently has low numbers of people hospitalised and requiring ICU treatment. Therefore … robust evidence is essential to the ongoing management of the COVID-19 pandemic,” Mr Hunt wrote.
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Well it was nice of them to have chosen a roentgenium standard strategy to keep things that way.
The quote is from Steve Waterson in the Australian
https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/covid-vaccine-segregation-this-isnt-1950s-alabama/news-story/b890cecfa550dca0387d7923186e7d57
How do these people even survive?
dv said:
The quote is from Steve Waterson in the Australian
https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/covid-vaccine-segregation-this-isnt-1950s-alabama/news-story/b890cecfa550dca0387d7923186e7d57
How do these people even survive?
If we were allowed to carry guns, they probably wouldn’t survive long.
dv said:
The quote is from Steve Waterson in the Australian
https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/covid-vaccine-segregation-this-isnt-1950s-alabama/news-story/b890cecfa550dca0387d7923186e7d57
How do these people even survive?
He may not, if he doesn’t vaccinate.
I see from the ABC live updates that Gladys is doing a press conference again today. Why on a Sunday? I thought she was only going to do them when necessary. Does this mean it’s necessary?
buffy said:
I see from the ABC live updates that Gladys is doing a press conference again today. Why on a Sunday? I thought she was only going to do them when necessary. Does this mean it’s necessary?
Maybe.
buffy said:
I see from the ABC live updates that Gladys is doing a press conference again today. Why on a Sunday? I thought she was only going to do them when necessary. Does this mean it’s necessary?
This means the opposition offered to take over the lectern in her absence. She decided that may not be good for her failing political career.
Dark Orange said:
buffy said:
I see from the ABC live updates that Gladys is doing a press conference again today. Why on a Sunday? I thought she was only going to do them when necessary. Does this mean it’s necessary?This means the opposition offered to take over the lectern in her absence. She decided that may not be good for her failing political career.
Or it’s because Dan is making a Big Announcement today.
buffy said:
Dark Orange said:
buffy said:
I see from the ABC live updates that Gladys is doing a press conference again today. Why on a Sunday? I thought she was only going to do them when necessary. Does this mean it’s necessary?This means the opposition offered to take over the lectern in her absence. She decided that may not be good for her failing political career.
Or it’s because Dan is making a Big Announcement today.
From the ABC live updates:
>>We’re expecting to hear from Victorian authorities shortly after midday
Alright team, things are happening slightly differently in Victoria today.
Victorian journalists will attend a budget-style lockup this morning to read the detail of the government’s roadmap out of lockdown before it is released to the public.
It is expected we will hear from authorities shortly after noon, but an official time has not yet been released.
We will update you as soon as we know when the press conference will begin.<<
Michael V said:
dv said:
The quote is from Steve Waterson in the Australian
How do these people even survive?
He may not, if he doesn’t vaccinate.
they survive by being unnaturally skilled, and only testing specifically those who test positive, wasting nothing
Miraculously, the virus did not spread to Nicole, who was unvaccinated.
“I never got COVID which was fortunate because even though I’d been trying very hard to get the vaccine, I still wasn’t vaccinated,” she said.
“It is surprising and many other families who were in a similar situation to us, the parent who was isolated with their child did get COVID, so it’s a little bit of an anomaly.
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how did they manage to get away with that
SCIENCE said:
Don’t worry we should charge full steam ahead, we’re stronger than and not as dirty as ASIANS so we’ll win and our Economy Must Grow better than them, we’re exceptional.
Eighty-one per cent of the entire population is fully vaccinated – excluding under-12s, it is 90% – and the number of seriously ill patients is fairly low overall. Just four people have died in the past 28 days, all of whom were unvaccinated, according to the health ministry. However, the number of those seriously ill is increasing. The number of patients requiring oxygen doubled to 54 on Sunday from two days before, an important gauge to judge whether the medical system could get overwhelmed.
In China, Putian, a city of 3.2 million, ordered testing of all residents on Tuesday after Delta variant cases linked to a returnee from Singapore ballooned into a province-wide outbreak of more than 100 people.
Reopen Them Roentgenium Standard Schools In October¡
not quite sisyphean enough
“Mr Andrews outlined the figures put forward by modelling by the Burnet Institute, saying there was no turning back despite the dramatic expected surge in cases and deaths
“On or about the 15 December, cases will peak at about 4,500. Towards the end of December, admissions to hospital will peak at about 3,150, and in January, deaths due to COVID-19 in the Delta variant will peak at around 2,200. These are sobering numbers,” he said.
“We are opening up, no doubt about that, and there will be no turning back. We have got to normalise this, we have got to pass through and beyond this pandemic.”
Mr Andrews reiterated it was only modelling and a forecast, not a definitive verdict.”
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Tough times ahead, VIC.
:(
I notice NSW is not so up-front about the consequences of opening up.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-19/covid-live-blog-moderna-vaccine-nsw-vic-lockdown/100474046
I’m afraid your time will come too, Qld and WA and Tas.
Quick Tour Of The “World”, As In The World According To Australian Corruption Coalition
buffy said:
I’m afraid your time will come too, Qld and WA and Tas.
Yes, unfortunately.
Michael V said:
“Mr Andrews outlined the figures put forward by modelling by the Burnet Institute, saying there was no turning back despite the dramatic expected surge in cases and deaths“On or about the 15 December, cases will peak at about 4,500. Towards the end of December, admissions to hospital will peak at about 3,150, and in January, deaths due to COVID-19 in the Delta variant will peak at around 2,200. These are sobering numbers,” he said.
“We are opening up, no doubt about that, and there will be no turning back. We have got to normalise this, we have got to pass through and beyond this pandemic.”
Mr Andrews reiterated it was only modelling and a forecast, not a definitive verdict.”
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Tough times ahead, VIC.:(
I notice NSW is not so up-front about the consequences of opening up.
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I heard him say that, I hope those figures are for all Australia and that they are not per day.
buffy said:
I’m afraid your time will come too, Qld and WA and Tas.
We will hold out as long as we can while the vaccine rollout rolls out.
party_pants said:
buffy said:
I’m afraid your time will come too, Qld and WA and Tas.
We will hold out as long as we can while the vaccine rollout rolls out.
It’s not a race…
poikilotherm said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:
I’m afraid your time will come too, Qld and WA and Tas.
We will hold out as long as we can while the vaccine rollout rolls out.
It’s not a race…
bullshit :)
If I spend a significant time at the Redoubt I should be safe but driving back into civilisation might be like the opening scene of Omega Man.
Peak Warming Man said:
If I spend a significant time at the Redoubt I should be safe but driving back into civilisation might be like the opening scene of Omega Man.
Or scenes in “On the Beach”.
Peak Warming Man said:
If I spend a significant time at the Redoubt I should be safe but driving back into civilisation might be like the opening scene of Omega Man.
Was that empty streets and dust blowing around?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Peak Warming Man said:
If I spend a significant time at the Redoubt I should be safe but driving back into civilisation might be like the opening scene of Omega Man.
Was that empty streets and dust blowing around?
In the opening scene! yes.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Peak Warming Man said:
If I spend a significant time at the Redoubt I should be safe but driving back into civilisation might be like the opening scene of Omega Man.
Was that empty streets and dust blowing around?
Melbourne on a Sunday.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
I’m afraid your time will come too, Qld and WA and Tas.
Yes, unfortunately.
The inevitability narrative is a crock unless you also believe that places can put in place measures that stop spread and then go back to waiting for their time to come again.
Oh wait, it’s already happened in QLD NZ mTW wTW, the only thing left is to believe.
SCIENCE said:
https://idahocapitalsun.com/2021/09/18/no-idaho-is-not-under-a-universal-dnr-hospitals-wont-just-let-everyone-die/
Having my second jab on Thursday. There’s nothing more I can do until they start offering boosters.
buffy said:
I’m afraid your time will come too, Qld and WA and Tas.
Hopefully we can hold out long enough for the vaccination percentages to maximise and we have the brains to learn from the mistakes of others.
Dark Orange said:
SCIENCE said:
hey we don’t even go there so we’re just showing you what the word on the street is
Dr. Frank Johnson, St. Luke’s Health System chief medical officer, worries that it might keep people from going to the hospital.
because they won’t resuscitate you if you die in hospital, but somehow magic will resuscitate you if you aren’t in hospital
“To be clear, there is no ‘universal DNR’ at St. Luke’s,” the health system said on Twitter. “The state of Idaho includes a reference to ‘universal DNR’ in their Crisis Standards of Care Activation plan. The state’s plan contemplates and provides guidance on a range of issues that provider organizations may or may not have a need to implement. St. Luke’s does not include this element in our Crisis Standards of Care plan and our internal CSC steering committee has recommended against having such a policy. We understand area providers are taking a similar approach.”
So in theory, it is possible that a person who goes into cardiac arrest could be allowed to die. But first, three things must happen: Crisis standards of care must be declared. That happened statewide on Thursday. Hospitals operating under crisis standards would have to include this “universal DNR” in their own plans. A hospital must not have enough ventilators. The shortage must be significant enough for a hospital to be forced into using the “mechanical ventilation allocation framework.”
St. Luke’s still has enough ventilators, he said. Earlier this week, it was using 77 of 101 in its supply and recently placed orders for 20 more to arrive in the next couple of weeks, he said. “We’re limited in staff, for sure, we’re limited in space, for sure, but ventilators, we still have enough,” he said. St. Luke’s and other hospitals are digging out older ventilators and requesting more to meet the demand from a growing number of COVID-19 patients. But they’re not at a point where they need to stop doing CPR on patients, Johnson said. He says a “universal DNR” is more likely in an immediate crisis scenario.
we mean they say it themselves
“it’s not official, but it’s official”
“this isn’t rationing care, it’s just spreading available resources more thinly”
“we haven’t implemented it, we’ve left the decisions to the people who will implement it”
Bubblecar said:
Having my second jab on Thursday. There’s nothing more I can do until they start offering boosters.
Well, you could still wear N95+ masks if you’re going to share air with others nearby.
Dark Orange said:
buffy said:
I’m afraid your time will come too, Qld and WA and Tas.
Hopefully we can hold out long enough for the vaccination percentages to maximise and we have the brains to learn from the mistakes of others.
^
Bubblecar said:
Having my second jab on Thursday. There’s nothing more I can do until they start offering boosters.
Good-oh.
(Mask-wearing and social distancing will still work to reduce the chances of catching COVID.)
Dark Orange said:
buffy said:
I’m afraid your time will come too, Qld and WA and Tas.
Hopefully we can hold out long enough for the vaccination percentages to maximise and we have the brains to learn from the mistakes of others.
:)
I hope so, too.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Having my second jab on Thursday. There’s nothing more I can do until they start offering boosters.
Good-oh.
(Mask-wearing and social distancing will still work to reduce the chances of catching COVID.)
I meant there’s nothing I can do vaccine-wise.
Masks are not much worn in Tasmania atm, not surprising since there are no cases.
But they are mandatory in our local medical centre, probably because it houses a small geriatric hospital.
buffy said:
I’m afraid your time will come too, Qld and WA and Tas.
it hasn’t to-date, so you might wonder how that reality persisted to this point, must be an anomaly I guess, defying an impending other reality
transition said:
buffy said:
I’m afraid your time will come too, Qld and WA and Tas.
it hasn’t to-date, so you might wonder how that reality persisted to this point, must be an anomaly I guess, defying an impending other reality
We can achieve a very high level of vaccination while keeping our current procedures in place. Should be possible to avoid the kind of figures Andrews was quoting.
buffy said:
I’m afraid your time will come too, Qld and WA and Tas.
Nooooo!
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
buffy said:
I’m afraid your time will come too, Qld and WA and Tas.
it hasn’t to-date, so you might wonder how that reality persisted to this point, must be an anomaly I guess, defying an impending other reality
We can achieve a very high level of vaccination while keeping our current procedures in place. Should be possible to avoid the kind of figures Andrews was quoting.
things would be quite different if vaccination wasn’t used as a vote and license to let covid go wild, but it was, has been, there’s a mind virus in that
Woman who wanted to catch Covid-19 now begs for prayers
Yeah, play stupid games…
furious said:
Woman who wanted to catch Covid-19 now begs for prayersYeah, play stupid games…
a few typos in that article.
ChrispenEvan said:
furious said:
Woman who wanted to catch Covid-19 now begs for prayersYeah, play stupid games…
a few typos in that article.
Soar throat…
furious said:
ChrispenEvan said:
furious said:
Woman who wanted to catch Covid-19 now begs for prayersYeah, play stupid games…
a few typos in that article.
Soar throat…
yeah, apart from that be nice to see her shuffle off this mortal coil.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-17/small-businesses-worried-about-confrontations-with-unvaccinated/100467952
“I think what’s much more difficult is to expect a business to become the enforcement around whether people are scanning in, whether people are displaying their vaccine status or not,” he said.
Just like they have to make sure no underage customers come in by checking for ID? That sort of enforcement?
The ICU ‘angels’ caring for COVID-19 patients in Sydney’s St Vincent’s Hospital
If you need proof of what may happen if you’re unvaccinated, look no further than any intensive care unit.
It’s where the real-life consequences of Sydney’s runaway outbreak have threatened lives and torn families apart. For some critically ill patients, it will be their last stop before leaving this world.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-20/what-its-like-working-in-covid-icu/100470558
“We have to accept that once we start reopening cases will go through the roof but it won’t matter as much because people will be vaccinated,” she said.
—
no thanks, fuck you
SCIENCE said:
“We have to accept that once we start reopening cases will go through the roof but it won’t matter as much because people will be vaccinated,” she said.—
no thanks, fuck you
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
“We have to accept that once we start reopening cases will go through the roof but it won’t matter as much because people will be vaccinated,” she said.
—
no thanks, fuck you
Qld doing well again:
we’re still happy at Dr Young’s presentation 2 weeks ago
SCIENCE said:
“We have to accept that once we start reopening cases will go through the roof but it won’t matter as much because people will be vaccinated,” she said.—
no thanks, fuck you
yeah’s foolish language really, foolish release of the endothelial plague language, a mind virus to that end, glad as giving birth to new life
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-20/victoria-new-covid-cases-melbourne-lockdown-to-late-october/100475328
Construction workers covering themselves in glory.
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-20/victoria-new-covid-cases-melbourne-lockdown-to-late-october/100475328Construction workers covering themselves in glory.
Well, what do you expect, with their site radios blaring nonsense from ultra-right commentators, whose only job is to foment anti-establishment feeling.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/how-the-anti-lockdown-fundraising-machine-keeps-running,15506
Tom Tanuki is an online satirist, social justice commentator, writer and comedian. He has worked in anti-racist political comedy, most notably through his satirical group the Million Flag Patriots and anti-racist group Yelling At Racist Dogs (Y.A.R.D.). You can follow Tom on Twitter @tom_tanuki.
https://www.ted.com/talks/kaitlyn_sadtler_and_elizabeth_wayne_how_the_covid_19_vaccines_were_created_so_quickly/transcript
ChrispenEvan said:
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/how-the-anti-lockdown-fundraising-machine-keeps-running,15506Tom Tanuki is an online satirist, social justice commentator, writer and comedian. He has worked in anti-racist political comedy, most notably through his satirical group the Million Flag Patriots and anti-racist group Yelling At Racist Dogs (Y.A.R.D.). You can follow Tom on Twitter @tom_tanuki.
Onya Monika
must have had some pre-existing conditions
The Victorian government is set to announce a two-week shutdown of the construction industry after a protest against mandatory vaccines for workers in the sector became violent.
Guardian Australia has confirmed high-level meetings were being held on Monday night and the state government was poised to announce a halt to work on building sites, with some exceptions granted for special projects.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/20/construction-union-blames-extremists-as-melbourne-protest-against-vaccine-mandate-turns-violent
sibeen said:
The Victorian government is set to announce a two-week shutdown of the construction industry after a protest against mandatory vaccines for workers in the sector became violent.Guardian Australia has confirmed high-level meetings were being held on Monday night and the state government was poised to announce a halt to work on building sites, with some exceptions granted for special projects.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/20/construction-union-blames-extremists-as-melbourne-protest-against-vaccine-mandate-turns-violent
Uh-oh…
sibeen said:
The Victorian government is set to announce a two-week shutdown of the construction industry after a protest against mandatory vaccines for workers in the sector became violent.Guardian Australia has confirmed high-level meetings were being held on Monday night and the state government was poised to announce a halt to work on building sites, with some exceptions granted for special projects.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/20/construction-union-blames-extremists-as-melbourne-protest-against-vaccine-mandate-turns-violent
This country’s as bad as America these days, so many fucking morons.
sibeen said:
The Victorian government is set to announce a two-week shutdown of the construction industry after a protest against mandatory vaccines for workers in the sector became violent.Guardian Australia has confirmed high-level meetings were being held on Monday night and the state government was poised to announce a halt to work on building sites, with some exceptions granted for special projects.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/20/construction-union-blames-extremists-as-melbourne-protest-against-vaccine-mandate-turns-violent
Is this tit-for-tat vengeance?
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
The Victorian government is set to announce a two-week shutdown of the construction industry after a protest against mandatory vaccines for workers in the sector became violent.Guardian Australia has confirmed high-level meetings were being held on Monday night and the state government was poised to announce a halt to work on building sites, with some exceptions granted for special projects.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/20/construction-union-blames-extremists-as-melbourne-protest-against-vaccine-mandate-turns-violent
Is this tit-for-tat vengeance?
Maybe they considered that the non-mask-wearing actions by the violent protagonists, combined with the lack of compliance with the COVID-safe rules as potentially leading to a super-spreading event or events.
https://twitter.com/olgordon/status/1439878799676432385
Load up, load up, load up your rubber bullets…
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:
sibeen said:
https://twitter.com/olgordon/status/1439878799676432385
Load up, load up, load up your rubber bullets…
I suspect that there’s not a lot of love for construction workers right at this moment in Melbourne.
well who’s going to build those infectious diseases hospitals or dedicated quarantine facilities then
oh wait
Anti-Vax Radio Hosts Keep Dying From COVID
Conservative radio hosts all across America are losing their lives for the cause. In the past month alone, five talk radio personalities who were vocal COVID-19-deniers, anti-vaxxers, or anti-maskers have all died after contracting the virus. Most recently was WNDB’s Marc Bernier, a late Daytona, Florida, talk radio host who dubbed himself “Mr. Anti-Vax” in December while assuring his listeners “I’m not taking it.” True to his word, Bernier contracted COVID-19 roughly three weeks ago and his death was announced over the weekend by his radio station––which had awkwardly acknowledged his on-air “anti-vaccine” commentary just before his passing. (WNDB was contacted for clarification regarding its COVID-19 safety policies but the station did not respond.)
Though it might be assumed some right-wing media figures are simply feeding into the anti-vax frenzy to gin up outrage and ratings, the spate of recent deaths makes clear that, for a number of them, opposition to safe, effective vaccines and other pandemic mitigation efforts isn’t just talk. Such radio rants against efforts to stop the pandemic come as Republican men, a large segment of the talk radio audience, have been shown to be particularly resistant to getting vaccinated.
Full Report:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/anti-vax-radio-hosts-dying-covid
Bubblecar said:
Anti-Vax Radio Hosts Keep Dying From COVIDConservative radio hosts all across America are losing their lives for the cause. In the past month alone, five talk radio personalities who were vocal COVID-19-deniers, anti-vaxxers, or anti-maskers have all died after contracting the virus. Most recently was WNDB’s Marc Bernier, a late Daytona, Florida, talk radio host who dubbed himself “Mr. Anti-Vax” in December while assuring his listeners “I’m not taking it.” True to his word, Bernier contracted COVID-19 roughly three weeks ago and his death was announced over the weekend by his radio station––which had awkwardly acknowledged his on-air “anti-vaccine” commentary just before his passing. (WNDB was contacted for clarification regarding its COVID-19 safety policies but the station did not respond.)
Though it might be assumed some right-wing media figures are simply feeding into the anti-vax frenzy to gin up outrage and ratings, the spate of recent deaths makes clear that, for a number of them, opposition to safe, effective vaccines and other pandemic mitigation efforts isn’t just talk. Such radio rants against efforts to stop the pandemic come as Republican men, a large segment of the talk radio audience, have been shown to be particularly resistant to getting vaccinated.
Full Report:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/anti-vax-radio-hosts-dying-covid
Silver linings.
Gold Standards
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
“We have to accept that once we start reopening cases will go through the roof but it won’t matter as much because people will be vaccinated,” she said.
—
no thanks, fuck you
yeah’s foolish language really, foolish release of the endothelial plague language, a mind virus to that end, glad as giving birth to new life
sorry we got distracted so didn’t watch the full press conference but did the idiots actually convey the message that “some restrictions will be loosened so please be responsible and take care with personal infection control measures” or was it all “reopening haha intensive care coping haha embrace the death laugh out loud”
we mean damn this is fucking awesome leadership they’re showing not passive aggressive at all
Propaganda For The (PreviousPrevious)Day
“most” laugh out loud
oh wait
and yet
then again
and we’ll be satisfied with
legit’
imagine telling every 2nd class in NSW that one of their classmates wouldn’t be coming back this wave because almost fucking killed by COVID-19 but don’t worry there’ll be another wave in 6 months so every other class can have a go as well
SCIENCE said:
imagine telling every 2nd class in NSW that one of their classmates wouldn’t be coming back this wave because almost fucking killed by COVID-19 but don’t worry there’ll be another wave in 6 months so every other class can have a go as well
sorry used the wrong information, going by NSW reported we should have said, every single class
Rather Than Deal With This Good News, We’ll Probably Just End Up With An Updated Thread Instead
oops guess Australia is doing that 6 months behind thing again, surprise, it’s causing worse disease
WTYS
but don’t worry the flawed earlier modelling is already locked into the strategy your psychopaths in charge have decided to run with
SCIENCE said:
Rather Than Deal With This Good News, We’ll Probably Just End Up With An Updated Thread Instead
also this part seems to be verging on disinformation, setting the stage if you like
Professor Nick Golding from Curtin University, who also works with the Institute, said there was evidence that children were unlikely to give the virus to one another. He said vaccinating parents was the best way to protect children. “A lot of kids that we see getting infected, they get infected by the parents in the home,” he said. “And so in our simulations where we had high levels of adult vaccination coverage, their parents are vaccinated, and that means they’re less likely to get the infection in the first place.” And he suggested adding children to vaccination thresholds could inflate vaccination rates — as young people are extremely likely to be vaccinated. “The fact that kids are very used to getting vaccinated, and adults very keen to get the kids vaccinated, I suppose is one reason you might not actually want to include them in the target,” he said. “Because it’s probably going to happen anyway.”
To be clear:
.
Bubblecar said:
Anti-Vax Radio Hosts Keep Dying From COVIDConservative radio hosts all across America are losing their lives for the cause. In the past month alone, five talk radio personalities who were vocal COVID-19-deniers, anti-vaxxers, or anti-maskers have all died after contracting the virus. Most recently was WNDB’s Marc Bernier, a late Daytona, Florida, talk radio host who dubbed himself “Mr. Anti-Vax” in December while assuring his listeners “I’m not taking it.” True to his word, Bernier contracted COVID-19 roughly three weeks ago and his death was announced over the weekend by his radio station––which had awkwardly acknowledged his on-air “anti-vaccine” commentary just before his passing. (WNDB was contacted for clarification regarding its COVID-19 safety policies but the station did not respond.)
Though it might be assumed some right-wing media figures are simply feeding into the anti-vax frenzy to gin up outrage and ratings, the spate of recent deaths makes clear that, for a number of them, opposition to safe, effective vaccines and other pandemic mitigation efforts isn’t just talk. Such radio rants against efforts to stop the pandemic come as Republican men, a large segment of the talk radio audience, have been shown to be particularly resistant to getting vaccinated.
Full Report:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/anti-vax-radio-hosts-dying-covid
keep in mind the anti-anti-vax propaganda is deployed for softening people up to release of covid, or normalization of circulating covid, which could be seen as irrational as anti-vax views
it’s possibly the first time ever an extremely contagious biohazard has been released along with a vaccine, a vaccine been used to license letting such a contagion go wild, or further spread
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Anti-Vax Radio Hosts Keep Dying From COVIDConservative radio hosts all across America are losing their lives for the cause. In the past month alone, five talk radio personalities who were vocal COVID-19-deniers, anti-vaxxers, or anti-maskers have all died after contracting the virus. Most recently was WNDB’s Marc Bernier, a late Daytona, Florida, talk radio host who dubbed himself “Mr. Anti-Vax” in December while assuring his listeners “I’m not taking it.” True to his word, Bernier contracted COVID-19 roughly three weeks ago and his death was announced over the weekend by his radio station––which had awkwardly acknowledged his on-air “anti-vaccine” commentary just before his passing. (WNDB was contacted for clarification regarding its COVID-19 safety policies but the station did not respond.)
Though it might be assumed some right-wing media figures are simply feeding into the anti-vax frenzy to gin up outrage and ratings, the spate of recent deaths makes clear that, for a number of them, opposition to safe, effective vaccines and other pandemic mitigation efforts isn’t just talk. Such radio rants against efforts to stop the pandemic come as Republican men, a large segment of the talk radio audience, have been shown to be particularly resistant to getting vaccinated.
Full Report:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/anti-vax-radio-hosts-dying-covid
keep in mind the anti-anti-vax propaganda is deployed for softening people up to release of covid, or normalization of circulating covid, which could be seen as irrational as anti-vax views
it’s possibly the first time ever an extremely contagious biohazard has been released along with a vaccine, a vaccine been used to license letting such a contagion go wild, or further spread
But it isn’t the first time the populace has been irrational.
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Anti-Vax Radio Hosts Keep Dying From COVIDConservative radio hosts all across America are losing their lives for the cause. In the past month alone, five talk radio personalities who were vocal COVID-19-deniers, anti-vaxxers, or anti-maskers have all died after contracting the virus. Most recently was WNDB’s Marc Bernier, a late Daytona, Florida, talk radio host who dubbed himself “Mr. Anti-Vax” in December while assuring his listeners “I’m not taking it.” True to his word, Bernier contracted COVID-19 roughly three weeks ago and his death was announced over the weekend by his radio station––which had awkwardly acknowledged his on-air “anti-vaccine” commentary just before his passing. (WNDB was contacted for clarification regarding its COVID-19 safety policies but the station did not respond.)
Though it might be assumed some right-wing media figures are simply feeding into the anti-vax frenzy to gin up outrage and ratings, the spate of recent deaths makes clear that, for a number of them, opposition to safe, effective vaccines and other pandemic mitigation efforts isn’t just talk. Such radio rants against efforts to stop the pandemic come as Republican men, a large segment of the talk radio audience, have been shown to be particularly resistant to getting vaccinated.
Full Report:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/anti-vax-radio-hosts-dying-covid
keep in mind the anti-anti-vax propaganda is deployed for softening people up to release of covid, or normalization of circulating covid, which could be seen as irrational as anti-vax views
it’s possibly the first time ever an extremely contagious biohazard has been released along with a vaccine, a vaccine been used to license letting such a contagion go wild, or further spread
LOL, what a load of utter crap.
roughbarked said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Anti-Vax Radio Hosts Keep Dying From COVIDConservative radio hosts all across America are losing their lives for the cause. In the past month alone, five talk radio personalities who were vocal COVID-19-deniers, anti-vaxxers, or anti-maskers have all died after contracting the virus. Most recently was WNDB’s Marc Bernier, a late Daytona, Florida, talk radio host who dubbed himself “Mr. Anti-Vax” in December while assuring his listeners “I’m not taking it.” True to his word, Bernier contracted COVID-19 roughly three weeks ago and his death was announced over the weekend by his radio station––which had awkwardly acknowledged his on-air “anti-vaccine” commentary just before his passing. (WNDB was contacted for clarification regarding its COVID-19 safety policies but the station did not respond.)
Though it might be assumed some right-wing media figures are simply feeding into the anti-vax frenzy to gin up outrage and ratings, the spate of recent deaths makes clear that, for a number of them, opposition to safe, effective vaccines and other pandemic mitigation efforts isn’t just talk. Such radio rants against efforts to stop the pandemic come as Republican men, a large segment of the talk radio audience, have been shown to be particularly resistant to getting vaccinated.
Full Report:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/anti-vax-radio-hosts-dying-covid
keep in mind the anti-anti-vax propaganda is deployed for softening people up to release of covid, or normalization of circulating covid, which could be seen as irrational as anti-vax views
it’s possibly the first time ever an extremely contagious biohazard has been released along with a vaccine, a vaccine been used to license letting such a contagion go wild, or further spread
But it isn’t the first time the populace has been irrational.
I didn’t say or generalize the view people are irrational, I did point to could be seen as, and was talking about propaganda
ChrispenEvan said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Anti-Vax Radio Hosts Keep Dying From COVIDConservative radio hosts all across America are losing their lives for the cause. In the past month alone, five talk radio personalities who were vocal COVID-19-deniers, anti-vaxxers, or anti-maskers have all died after contracting the virus. Most recently was WNDB’s Marc Bernier, a late Daytona, Florida, talk radio host who dubbed himself “Mr. Anti-Vax” in December while assuring his listeners “I’m not taking it.” True to his word, Bernier contracted COVID-19 roughly three weeks ago and his death was announced over the weekend by his radio station––which had awkwardly acknowledged his on-air “anti-vaccine” commentary just before his passing. (WNDB was contacted for clarification regarding its COVID-19 safety policies but the station did not respond.)
Though it might be assumed some right-wing media figures are simply feeding into the anti-vax frenzy to gin up outrage and ratings, the spate of recent deaths makes clear that, for a number of them, opposition to safe, effective vaccines and other pandemic mitigation efforts isn’t just talk. Such radio rants against efforts to stop the pandemic come as Republican men, a large segment of the talk radio audience, have been shown to be particularly resistant to getting vaccinated.
Full Report:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/anti-vax-radio-hosts-dying-covid
keep in mind the anti-anti-vax propaganda is deployed for softening people up to release of covid, or normalization of circulating covid, which could be seen as irrational as anti-vax views
it’s possibly the first time ever an extremely contagious biohazard has been released along with a vaccine, a vaccine been used to license letting such a contagion go wild, or further spread
LOL, what a load of utter crap.
you want to take that for a little walk, point to which part
