Date: 16/09/2021 20:55:41
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1791282
Subject: Woolworths share buyback

As you no doubt know, I always turn to the holiday forum for share investment advice. LOL.

OK, no I don’t, but this one is a bit tricky.

Woolworths (WOW) is offering to buy back its shares from existing investors. I can offer my shares to WOW at their price or at a lower price (10% to 14% less). They will buy back however many shares they want at the lowest price they can for a total cost to them of $2 billion..

This is their two page information flyer, https://www.woolworthsgroup.com.au/content/Document/Buy%20Back%202021/Buy-Back%20Infromation%20Flyer.pdf

Here is some independent advice. https://www.fool.com.au/2021/08/26/woolworths-asxwow-share-buyback-heres-what-you-need-to-know/

Do I take up their offer to buy back shares or not? If I don’t then from now on the profits will be distributed among fewer shares giving higher yield per share.

There was a class action court case against WOW for misleading investors that was settled for $44.5 million on 29 January 2021.

Looking at the ASX price chart now. Is this “fundamental” equal to price or is it loaded to include dividends as well?

I inherited the WOW shares in late 2014, so was not a happy chappy in 2016. But it seems to have recovered nicely now.

Any advice other than “don’t invest in the share market”. I know that already.

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Date: 16/09/2021 21:38:11
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1791294
Subject: re: Woolworths share buyback

mollwollfumble said:


As you no doubt know, I always turn to the holiday forum for share investment advice. LOL.

OK, no I don’t, but this one is a bit tricky.

Woolworths (WOW) is offering to buy back its shares from existing investors. I can offer my shares to WOW at their price or at a lower price (10% to 14% less). They will buy back however many shares they want at the lowest price they can for a total cost to them of $2 billion..

This is their two page information flyer, https://www.woolworthsgroup.com.au/content/Document/Buy%20Back%202021/Buy-Back%20Infromation%20Flyer.pdf

Here is some independent advice. https://www.fool.com.au/2021/08/26/woolworths-asxwow-share-buyback-heres-what-you-need-to-know/

Do I take up their offer to buy back shares or not? If I don’t then from now on the profits will be distributed among fewer shares giving higher yield per share.

There was a class action court case against WOW for misleading investors that was settled for $44.5 million on 29 January 2021.

Looking at the ASX price chart now. Is this “fundamental” equal to price or is it loaded to include dividends as well?

I inherited the WOW shares in late 2014, so was not a happy chappy in 2016. But it seems to have recovered nicely now.

Any advice other than “don’t invest in the share market”. I know that already.

If they are offering market price or less, why not just sell them on the market?

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Date: 16/09/2021 21:47:37
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1791299
Subject: re: Woolworths share buyback

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

As you no doubt know, I always turn to the holiday forum for share investment advice. LOL.

OK, no I don’t, but this one is a bit tricky.

Woolworths (WOW) is offering to buy back its shares from existing investors. I can offer my shares to WOW at their price or at a lower price (10% to 14% less). They will buy back however many shares they want at the lowest price they can for a total cost to them of $2 billion..

This is their two page information flyer, https://www.woolworthsgroup.com.au/content/Document/Buy%20Back%202021/Buy-Back%20Infromation%20Flyer.pdf

Here is some independent advice. https://www.fool.com.au/2021/08/26/woolworths-asxwow-share-buyback-heres-what-you-need-to-know/

Do I take up their offer to buy back shares or not? If I don’t then from now on the profits will be distributed among fewer shares giving higher yield per share.

There was a class action court case against WOW for misleading investors that was settled for $44.5 million on 29 January 2021.

Looking at the ASX price chart now. Is this “fundamental” equal to price or is it loaded to include dividends as well?

I inherited the WOW shares in late 2014, so was not a happy chappy in 2016. But it seems to have recovered nicely now.

Any advice other than “don’t invest in the share market”. I know that already.

If they are offering market price or less, why not just sell them on the market?

Having skimmed the 2nd link, it seems there may be some tax benefits from selling through this scheme. You’d probably need to consult a tax person to get good advice on that.

My inclination would be to wait until the sale was complete, then sell on market.

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Date: 17/09/2021 08:06:25
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1791354
Subject: re: Woolworths share buyback

Australian shares are expected to dip on opening today as the price of iron ore continues to decline, while Wall Street indices spent most of the day in negative territory.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-17/markets-wall-street-dow-jones-asx/100468964

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Date: 17/09/2021 08:09:56
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1791355
Subject: re: Woolworths share buyback

Anybody wanna buy yellow stuff? ;)

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Date: 17/09/2021 08:21:11
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1791364
Subject: re: Woolworths share buyback

The Rev Dodgson said:


Having skimmed the 2nd link, it seems there may be some tax benefits from selling through this scheme. You’d probably need to consult a tax person to get good advice on that.

My inclination would be to wait until the sale was complete, then sell on market.

Ta. That does make sense. I have no difficulty with capital gains tax because I made such a balls-up of capital losses in the past. And I haven’t claimed on my AMP share losses yet. I could write AMP share losses off against Woolworths gains.

Dark Orange said:

Anybody wanna buy yellow stuff? ;)

Is someone selling cake?

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Date: 17/09/2021 08:30:40
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1791368
Subject: re: Woolworths share buyback

mollwollfumble said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Having skimmed the 2nd link, it seems there may be some tax benefits from selling through this scheme. You’d probably need to consult a tax person to get good advice on that.

My inclination would be to wait until the sale was complete, then sell on market.

Ta. That does make sense. I have no difficulty with capital gains tax because I made such a balls-up of capital losses in the past. And I haven’t claimed on my AMP share losses yet. I could write AMP share losses off against Woolworths gains.

Dark Orange said:

Anybody wanna buy yellow stuff? ;)

Is someone selling cake?

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Date: 17/09/2021 08:39:13
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1791372
Subject: re: Woolworths share buyback

Dark Orange said:

Anybody wanna buy yellow stuff? ;)

Is someone selling cake?

Safer than bitcoin. Or did you mean gold? Or Klimt?

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Date: 17/09/2021 08:48:12
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1791381
Subject: re: Woolworths share buyback

mollwollfumble said:


Dark Orange said:

Anybody wanna buy yellow stuff? ;)

Is someone selling cake?

Safer than bitcoin. Or did you mean gold? Or Klimt?

Gold. I am looking to cast up some 23k dogecoin at some stage if that interests you :)

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Date: 17/09/2021 08:50:02
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1791383
Subject: re: Woolworths share buyback

Dark Orange said:

Gold. I am looking to cast up some 23k dogecoin at some stage if that interests you :)

oops… 24 carat, not 24,000

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Date: 17/09/2021 10:40:26
From: Woodie
ID: 1791441
Subject: re: Woolworths share buyback

I assume you have read their 33 page “buy back booklet”, Mr Fumble?

https://research.nabtrade.com.au/uploadhandler/z1d88e00az37862db8f9ef4e9a9914b30fde6b8adc.pdf

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Date: 17/09/2021 11:16:39
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1791454
Subject: re: Woolworths share buyback

Woodie said:


I assume you have read their 33 page “buy back booklet”, Mr Fumble?

https://research.nabtrade.com.au/uploadhandler/z1d88e00az37862db8f9ef4e9a9914b30fde6b8adc.pdf

Perfect timing. I was looking for that link right now.

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Date: 17/09/2021 11:19:07
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1791455
Subject: re: Woolworths share buyback

mollwollfumble said:


Woodie said:

I assume you have read their 33 page “buy back booklet”, Mr Fumble?

https://research.nabtrade.com.au/uploadhandler/z1d88e00az37862db8f9ef4e9a9914b30fde6b8adc.pdf

Perfect timing. I was looking for that link right now.

Hold it. The offer closed on the 15 Sept. I only received notification yesterday that it was available. !

The die is cast.

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Date: 17/09/2021 18:27:35
From: Woodie
ID: 1791659
Subject: re: Woolworths share buyback

mollwollfumble said:

Hold it. The offer closed on the 15 Sept. I only received notification yesterday that it was available. !

The die is cast.

Read the “Import Dates” very carefully, Mr Fumble. No mention of the 15th Sept for anything. Note particularly 13th Sept & 15th October.

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Date: 24/09/2021 02:31:29
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1794447
Subject: re: Woolworths share buyback

Woodie said:


mollwollfumble said:

Hold it. The offer closed on the 15 Sept. I only received notification yesterday that it was available. !

The die is cast.

Read the “Import Dates” very carefully, Mr Fumble. No mention of the 15th Sept for anything. Note particularly 13th Sept & 15th October.


15 October! Thanks for correction.

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