Date: 7/07/2010 11:56:36
From: pepe
ID: 94635
Subject: peps in the cold month
i have just turned the compost for the second time in two weeks. i discovered three mice nest in the heap as i turned it. so it is warm compost with just the right degree of dampness to fire up.
ms p. is on holidays and, as i look out the window, another towering canna leaf tumbles over, indicating where she is in the pool garden. it’s all pruning and weeding at present so the second compost heap is rapidly rising.
Date: 7/07/2010 14:50:24
From: pepe
ID: 94637
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
the new and old compost heaps. the yellow looking celery has been very heavily fertilised but is a modern hybrid that is semi-blanched by nature.
the rainwater tank with little pump shed. it looks simple enough but the underground pipes and cables have all been buried and the land graded.



Date: 7/07/2010 14:54:41
From: pepe
ID: 94638
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
yet more broccoli – we’ve had broccoli in the past three meals and are sick of it.
the nicola winter spuds are ok – either birds or caterpillars are nibbling the leaves.
inside the pea tunnel.



Date: 7/07/2010 15:50:57
From: veg gardener
ID: 94639
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Tanks Looks good Pepe, How full is she?
Date: 7/07/2010 15:53:08
From: pepe
ID: 94640
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
veg gardener said:
Tanks Looks good Pepe, How full is she?
about a third – or 30K litres. I need another 20cm of rain to fill it i reckon.
Date: 7/07/2010 15:56:21
From: veg gardener
ID: 94641
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
veg gardener said:
Tanks Looks good Pepe, How full is she?
about a third – or 30K litres. I need another 20cm of rain to fill it i reckon.
sounds alright then, Pipes dont seem to be resting up against the side of the tank any reason they done them that way.
Date: 7/07/2010 16:12:42
From: pepe
ID: 94642
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
veg gardener said:
pepe said:
veg gardener said:
Tanks Looks good Pepe, How full is she?
about a third – or 30K litres. I need another 20cm of rain to fill it i reckon.
sounds alright then, Pipes dont seem to be resting up against the side of the tank any reason they done them that way.
a very intelligent question.
the vertical pipes are supported by a steel post. so the vertical pipes are directly up from the main runs. one less pipe joint doing it this way. less chance of blockage.
Date: 7/07/2010 16:17:08
From: veg gardener
ID: 94643
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
veg gardener said:
pepe said:
about a third – or 30K litres. I need another 20cm of rain to fill it i reckon.
sounds alright then, Pipes dont seem to be resting up against the side of the tank any reason they done them that way.
a very intelligent question.
the vertical pipes are supported by a steel post. so the vertical pipes are directly up from the main runs. one less pipe joint doing it this way. less chance of blockage.
Still would have the same amounts of Join, Shouldn’t really be any blockage if the Gutters and drain Pipes are set up correctly.
Date: 7/07/2010 17:23:36
From: pepe
ID: 94644
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Still would have the same amounts of Join, Shouldn’t really be any blockage if the Gutters and drain Pipes are set up correctly.
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sorry – i was just making the pasties for tea.
if you’re good enough to locate the underground pipes and then have the tank builders put the tank hard up against the pipes you would have the same number of joins but with the pipes about a metre from the tank – there needs to a T over to the tank then an elbow, and an elbow – instead of just a T and an elbow.
there is always the chance of blockage no matter how good the setup is.
Date: 7/07/2010 17:48:40
From: pain master
ID: 94645
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Date: 7/07/2010 18:02:10
From: Happy Potter
ID: 94646
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
yet more broccoli – we’ve had broccoli in the past three meals and are sick of it.
the nicola winter spuds are ok – either birds or caterpillars are nibbling the leaves.
inside the pea tunnel.
Juice the green stuff ?
Date: 8/07/2010 15:12:09
From: veg gardener
ID: 94675
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
Still would have the same amounts of Join, Shouldn’t really be any blockage if the Gutters and drain Pipes are set up correctly.
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sorry – i was just making the pasties for tea.
if you’re good enough to locate the underground pipes and then have the tank builders put the tank hard up against the pipes you would have the same number of joins but with the pipes about a metre from the tank – there needs to a T over to the tank then an elbow, and an elbow – instead of just a T and an elbow.
there is always the chance of blockage no matter how good the setup is.
yep, well we got it done the other way, Tank before the underground pipes.
Date: 13/07/2010 10:44:50
From: pepe
ID: 95223
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
my second compost heap collapsed like a caldera. so i turned it but it wasn’t hot – just very sodden. three meeses ran out whilst i was turning.
my new lot of desiree and coliban spuds have hit the surface. desiree are really productive here and must be considered the natural locals. one old third year plant gave me 6 beautiful spuds all about the size of ‘housewife’s choice”.
Date: 13/07/2010 14:10:14
From: pain master
ID: 95236
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
my second compost heap collapsed like a caldera. so i turned it but it wasn’t hot – just very sodden. three meeses ran out whilst i was turning.
my new lot of desiree and coliban spuds have hit the surface. desiree are really productive here and must be considered the natural locals. one old third year plant gave me 6 beautiful spuds all about the size of ‘housewife’s choice”.
Does this mean it were three years old?
My spuds are going nuts, they are starting to get carried away and while we keep applying new soil and mulch to mound them up, it appears as if everyday they’ve grown 6 inches!
Date: 13/07/2010 16:29:30
From: pepe
ID: 95243
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pain master said:
pepe said:
my second compost heap collapsed like a caldera. so i turned it but it wasn’t hot – just very sodden. three meeses ran out whilst i was turning.
my new lot of desiree and coliban spuds have hit the surface. desiree are really productive here and must be considered the natural locals. one old third year plant gave me 6 beautiful spuds all about the size of ‘housewife’s choice”.
Does this mean it were three years old?
My spuds are going nuts, they are starting to get carried away and while we keep applying new soil and mulch to mound them up, it appears as if everyday they’ve grown 6 inches!
no – the 3 years age means they were uncertified when i planted them last year. it was a dry winter so they didn’t do much (and were overlooked when harvesting) so have grown again.
so
year1 – spud grower
year2 – unsuccessful at my place
year3 – germinated because they were left in the ground.
definitely not recommended – but flukes do happen.
townsville sounds good for spuds as well. altho’ big tops doesn’t always result in good tubers.
Date: 13/07/2010 17:22:45
From: pain master
ID: 95245
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
pain master said:
pepe said:
my second compost heap collapsed like a caldera. so i turned it but it wasn’t hot – just very sodden. three meeses ran out whilst i was turning.
my new lot of desiree and coliban spuds have hit the surface. desiree are really productive here and must be considered the natural locals. one old third year plant gave me 6 beautiful spuds all about the size of ‘housewife’s choice”.
Does this mean it were three years old?
My spuds are going nuts, they are starting to get carried away and while we keep applying new soil and mulch to mound them up, it appears as if everyday they’ve grown 6 inches!
no – the 3 years age means they were uncertified when i planted them last year. it was a dry winter so they didn’t do much (and were overlooked when harvesting) so have grown again.
so
year1 – spud grower
year2 – unsuccessful at my place
year3 – germinated because they were left in the ground.
definitely not recommended – but flukes do happen.
townsville sounds good for spuds as well. altho’ big tops doesn’t always result in good tubers.
I learnt something new today. :)
Not sure if Towntown is good for spuds, while they look healthy, the proof is in the ground. Noticed just the other day that certified spuds were available at a local nursery… will remember that next season. Hopefully nothing will blight this years crop (from store bought spuddies)
Date: 14/07/2010 20:39:57
From: pepe
ID: 95316
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
it really rained today. i planted an ‘australian lime’ in the spot where my avocado had died. i darted between showers to plant it, but got soaking wet, even tho the planting only took 15 minutes.
Date: 15/07/2010 12:06:32
From: bon008
ID: 95340
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
it really rained today. i planted an ‘australian lime’ in the spot where my avocado had died. i darted between showers to plant it, but got soaking wet, even tho the planting only took 15 minutes.
Ooh, awesome. It is a finger lime, or one of the smaller round ones, or some other one I haven’t come across?? Native lime is in my long term plan for the garden…
Date: 15/07/2010 12:44:17
From: Dinetta
ID: 95344
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
it really rained today. i planted an ‘australian lime’ in the spot where my avocado had died. i darted between showers to plant it, but got soaking wet, even tho the planting only took 15 minutes.
It’s to be hoped that the Australian Lime will boom if planted under those conditions…
Date: 15/07/2010 14:32:13
From: pepe
ID: 95347
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Dinetta said:
pepe said:
it really rained today. i planted an ‘australian lime’ in the spot where my avocado had died. i darted between showers to plant it, but got soaking wet, even tho the planting only took 15 minutes.
It’s to be hoped that the Australian Lime will boom if planted under those conditions…
i bought this thornless lime, that has round fruit (of unknown size) in profusion in spring, and then boundlessly throughout the year – or so the label says. its not a finger lime because they are sold under that name. its not a desert lime (with fruit the size of a cherry tomato) because i’ve got one of those. i suspect it has been bred to be thornless in australia and is probably not indigenous.
it’s wait and see.
Date: 15/07/2010 15:25:27
From: bon008
ID: 95351
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
Dinetta said:
pepe said:
it really rained today. i planted an ‘australian lime’ in the spot where my avocado had died. i darted between showers to plant it, but got soaking wet, even tho the planting only took 15 minutes.
It’s to be hoped that the Australian Lime will boom if planted under those conditions…
i bought this thornless lime, that has round fruit (of unknown size) in profusion in spring, and then boundlessly throughout the year – or so the label says. its not a finger lime because they are sold under that name. its not a desert lime (with fruit the size of a cherry tomato) because i’ve got one of those. i suspect it has been bred to be thornless in australia and is probably not indigenous.
it’s wait and see.
Ahh, cool – desert lime is the other one I was struggling to remember the name of. I’d love to have one tree with both desert lime and finger lime grafted on to it (running out of space unless I kick out some of the mystery citruses)
Date: 16/07/2010 13:45:42
From: pepe
ID: 95385
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
33mm of rain wednesday – that’s as good as the hills got.
Date: 17/07/2010 08:32:06
From: pomolo
ID: 95402
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
33mm of rain wednesday – that’s as good as the hills got.
So your winter rains are up to scratch this year? I was wondering if the south was getting a good rainfall or is it still at low readings?
Date: 17/07/2010 10:29:00
From: bluegreen
ID: 95412
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pomolo said:
pepe said:
33mm of rain wednesday – that’s as good as the hills got.
So your winter rains are up to scratch this year? I was wondering if the south was getting a good rainfall or is it still at low readings?
I am getting the best rain for years, though not up to what it was pre-drought yet.
Date: 17/07/2010 10:47:56
From: pepe
ID: 95414
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pomolo said:
pepe said:
33mm of rain wednesday – that’s as good as the hills got.
So your winter rains are up to scratch this year? I was wondering if the south was getting a good rainfall or is it still at low readings?
i’m told that rainfall is below average this year. so we need more. that last lot of rain did start puddling on the surface tho’….. i think the puddles will join and start to flow next – fingers crossed.
Date: 17/07/2010 14:18:56
From: Lucky1
ID: 95416
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Will try and catch up with you later next week if all goes well:) If this suits you .
Date: 17/07/2010 20:07:40
From: pomolo
ID: 95447
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
bluegreen said:
pomolo said:
pepe said:
33mm of rain wednesday – that’s as good as the hills got.
So your winter rains are up to scratch this year? I was wondering if the south was getting a good rainfall or is it still at low readings?
I am getting the best rain for years, though not up to what it was pre-drought yet.
Then there is hope anyway.
Date: 17/07/2010 20:14:29
From: pomolo
ID: 95449
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
pomolo said:
pepe said:
33mm of rain wednesday – that’s as good as the hills got.
So your winter rains are up to scratch this year? I was wondering if the south was getting a good rainfall or is it still at low readings?
i’m told that rainfall is below average this year. so we need more. that last lot of rain did start puddling on the surface tho’….. i think the puddles will join and start to flow next – fingers crossed.
Because we did so well with our summer rains I was hoping you would all get a normal rainfall too. That would prove to me that the drought had broken. I’m still hoping.
Date: 18/07/2010 15:05:59
From: pepe
ID: 95623
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Lucky1 said:
Will try and catch up with you later next week if all goes well:) If this suits you .
that’s fine – i look forward to it.
Date: 21/07/2010 10:15:56
From: pepe
ID: 95746
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
asparagus is sending up spears already. there’s a little fennel seedling over to the right of screen.
poppies are popping up in amongst the unweeded onions/leeks.
an unidentified brassica with the same coloured, but different shaped, leaves to the neighbouring kale.



Date: 21/07/2010 10:20:02
From: pepe
ID: 95747
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
turnips grow very quickly and now need severe thinning.
onions are kind of droopy
winter toms are under considerable stress due to the cold



Date: 21/07/2010 10:24:23
From: pepe
ID: 95748
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
new lime in shadecloth surround to stop the wind uprooting it.
macadamia and black sapote in plastic cages – both have leaf problems – the black sapote has a large amount of black ? on its leaves. help needed.



Date: 21/07/2010 10:32:30
From: Happy Potter
ID: 95750
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
new lime in shadecloth surround to stop the wind uprooting it.
macadamia and black sapote in plastic cages – both have leaf problems – the black sapote has a large amount of black ? on its leaves. help needed.



Obviously the trees are stressed, and you’d know I’m only guessing, but wouldn’t those particular trees need more air circulation ?
Date: 21/07/2010 10:33:08
From: bluegreen
ID: 95751
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
turnips grow very quickly and now need severe thinning.
I sowed some mini turnips in Autumn quit thickly but never got around to thinning them. They have had great leaf growth but had been showing no sign of root swelling, until now. While I was checking them out I spied a HUGE one on the far edge, and 4 smaller ones, but the rest still have spindly looking roots. Will they still fatten up as the days get longer?
Date: 21/07/2010 10:34:59
From: bluegreen
ID: 95752
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
macadamia and black sapote in plastic cages – both have leaf problems – the black sapote has a large amount of black ? on its leaves. help needed.
sooty mould? any signs of scale or other sucking insects? or have the leaves themselves gone black? In which case my suggestions would be too little or too much water – perhaps too much for winter? or frost bite.
Date: 21/07/2010 10:40:32
From: pepe
ID: 95756
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Obviously the trees are stressed, and you’d know I’m only guessing, but wouldn’t those particular trees need more air circulation ?
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yeah – but the air is frigid and these are tropicals.
i’m like you when it comes to gardening – i just go for it – and if it doesn’t work – too bad. i did buy these for $10 each but if a spray of white oil will fix the problem i will do so.
Date: 21/07/2010 10:41:37
From: pepe
ID: 95757
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
bluegreen said:
pepe said:
turnips grow very quickly and now need severe thinning.
I sowed some mini turnips in Autumn quit thickly but never got around to thinning them. They have had great leaf growth but had been showing no sign of root swelling, until now. While I was checking them out I spied a HUGE one on the far edge, and 4 smaller ones, but the rest still have spindly looking roots. Will they still fatten up as the days get longer?
i think you’ve got until october before they go to seed – so thin them – i reckon.
Date: 21/07/2010 10:43:33
From: pepe
ID: 95758
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
bluegreen said:
pepe said:
macadamia and black sapote in plastic cages – both have leaf problems – the black sapote has a large amount of black ? on its leaves. help needed.
sooty mould? any signs of scale or other sucking insects? or have the leaves themselves gone black? In which case my suggestions would be too little or too much water – perhaps too much for winter? or frost bite.
i will look closer – but at this stage – no scale, frost or totally black leaves.
looking up sooty mould – thanks.
Date: 21/07/2010 10:44:10
From: bluegreen
ID: 95759
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
bluegreen said:
pepe said:
macadamia and black sapote in plastic cages – both have leaf problems – the black sapote has a large amount of black ? on its leaves. help needed.
sooty mould? any signs of scale or other sucking insects? or have the leaves themselves gone black? In which case my suggestions would be too little or too much water – perhaps too much for winter? or frost bite.
or fungal, as HP said not enough air circulation.
These are plants I would expect to see in Qld or Nth NSW, so overwintering these young trees in our southern climates will be problematical until they get bigger and hardier. I suggest that if you get through Winter alive and they start putting on new growth come Spring then you will have done well. Those plastic guards are OK to a certain extent but they have their limitations.
Date: 21/07/2010 10:47:05
From: Happy Potter
ID: 95762
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
Obviously the trees are stressed, and you’d know I’m only guessing, but wouldn’t those particular trees need more air circulation ?
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yeah – but the air is frigid and these are tropicals.
i’m like you when it comes to gardening – i just go for it – and if it doesn’t work – too bad. i did buy these for $10 each but if a spray of white oil will fix the problem i will do so.
Ok. I understand completely now. You will have to create a tropical /warm moist spot for them.
Date: 21/07/2010 10:50:27
From: Dinetta
ID: 95763
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
I think the plastic guards will keep the plants warm and are a good idea…don’t water the plants overhead, and I would have thought it was too cold for fungal infections… the white oil can’t do harm…would there be a bug of some sort tracking this stuff to the plants? One would have thought it was too cold for that, too…
Date: 21/07/2010 10:52:27
From: Dinetta
ID: 95764
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Maybe you could make the shelters bigger, as in wider in diameter? So they’re still protection but the air circulation flows a bit better? Says she who has never done this but seen it plenty of times at parks, etc, when new trees are being planted…
Date: 21/07/2010 11:03:15
From: pepe
ID: 95766
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Dinetta said:
I think the plastic guards will keep the plants warm and are a good idea…don’t water the plants overhead, and I would have thought it was too cold for fungal infections… the white oil can’t do harm…would there be a bug of some sort tracking this stuff to the plants? One would have thought it was too cold for that, too…
you’re on the money there – no secretion or insects visible. therefore sooty mould is dubious – but i have white oil.
probably cold – maybe?
Date: 21/07/2010 11:42:18
From: Dinetta
ID: 95768
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
Dinetta said:
I think the plastic guards will keep the plants warm and are a good idea…don’t water the plants overhead, and I would have thought it was too cold for fungal infections… the white oil can’t do harm…would there be a bug of some sort tracking this stuff to the plants? One would have thought it was too cold for that, too…
you’re on the money there – no secretion or insects visible. therefore sooty mould is dubious – but i have white oil.
probably cold – maybe?
I’m not an expert on frosts or what cold does to plants…except my adenium obesium…
Date: 21/07/2010 11:46:29
From: Dinetta
ID: 95769
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Just revisiting your symptoms, if the black is on (and not “in”) the leaves, I would suggest sooty mould and in the absence of bugs feeding on this, I wouldn’t worry about it unless it’s so thick the leaves are unable to photosynthesise (F7)…when the days warm up you can shoot some of this off (or knock it around ) with Lux or similar-soapy water…if the black is “in” the leaves, this could be an indicator of too cold…
Date: 21/07/2010 12:37:20
From: bon008
ID: 95771
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Dinetta said:
Just revisiting your symptoms, if the black is on (and not “in”) the leaves, I would suggest sooty mould and in the absence of bugs feeding on this, I wouldn’t worry about it unless it’s so thick the leaves are unable to photosynthesise (F7)…when the days warm up you can shoot some of this off (or knock it around ) with Lux or similar-soapy water…if the black is “in” the leaves, this could be an indicator of too cold…
Oooh.. sorry to hijack, but my strawberry guava plant has a lot of “in the leaf” discolouration at the moment – I wonder if it could be too cold! Off to google for me…
Date: 21/07/2010 14:24:00
From: bluegreen
ID: 95783
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
bon008 said:
Dinetta said:
Just revisiting your symptoms, if the black is on (and not “in”) the leaves, I would suggest sooty mould and in the absence of bugs feeding on this, I wouldn’t worry about it unless it’s so thick the leaves are unable to photosynthesise (F7)…when the days warm up you can shoot some of this off (or knock it around ) with Lux or similar-soapy water…if the black is “in” the leaves, this could be an indicator of too cold…
Oooh.. sorry to hijack, but my strawberry guava plant has a lot of “in the leaf” discolouration at the moment – I wonder if it could be too cold! Off to google for me…
you need to consider that in the colder months many nutrients are locked up in the soil and as a result plants can become a bit undernourished so to speak. But when it warms up again they will power on.
Date: 21/07/2010 20:04:39
From: pepe
ID: 95813
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
if the black is “in” the leaves, this could be an indicator of too cold…
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its in the leaves.
probably coldness – but – not sure?
Date: 22/07/2010 06:09:19
From: pomolo
ID: 95819
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
asparagus is sending up spears already. there’s a little fennel seedling over to the right of screen.
poppies are popping up in amongst the unweeded onions/leeks.
an unidentified brassica with the same coloured, but different shaped, leaves to the neighbouring kale.



I’d love to get stuck into those weeds Pepe. I’d do it for that one stick of asparagus you know.
Date: 22/07/2010 06:13:41
From: pomolo
ID: 95820
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
turnips grow very quickly and now need severe thinning.
onions are kind of droopy
winter toms are under considerable stress due to the cold



So is it the cold that causes the tom leaves to curl down like that? We have black russians doing the same thing and I have wondered at the cause. The bushes are laden with fruit and it’s taking them ages to colour and ripen. I don’t think I have ever grown toms through the coldest months before. The roma tomatoes aren’t affected in the same way as the b. russians but they are taking ages to ripen though.
Date: 22/07/2010 09:36:21
From: bluegreen
ID: 95825
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pomolo said:
So is it the cold that causes the tom leaves to curl down like that? We have black russians doing the same thing and I have wondered at the cause. The bushes are laden with fruit and it’s taking them ages to colour and ripen. I don’t think I have ever grown toms through the coldest months before. The roma tomatoes aren’t affected in the same way as the b. russians but they are taking ages to ripen though.
they are warm weather plants. they are not going to be at their best in cold weather.
Date: 23/07/2010 05:19:14
From: Lucky1
ID: 95919
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Meant to have messaged you earlier Pepe……
Either Saturday afternoon or Monday morning suits us for a visit. If that suits you ……..
I have worm wee for you too.
We won’t do a meal with you as the elf needs certain foods each meal now….don’t want you putting yourself out……
Date: 23/07/2010 11:19:45
From: pepe
ID: 95934
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Lucky1 said:
Meant to have messaged you earlier Pepe…… Either Saturday afternoon or Monday morning suits us for a visit. If that suits you …….. I have worm wee for you too.
We won’t do a meal with you as the elf needs certain foods each meal now….don’t want you putting yourself out……
yeah – saturday arvo sounds good.
two dry bales of barley straw here for ya ($3.50 each) and some liquid pigeon poo.
we are constantly weeding now so – no plans for the w/e.
Date: 23/07/2010 11:31:16
From: pepe
ID: 95936
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
So is it the cold that causes the tom leaves to curl down like that? We have black russians doing the same thing and I have wondered at the cause. The bushes are laden with fruit and it’s taking them ages to colour and ripen. I don’t think I have ever grown toms through the coldest months before. The roma tomatoes aren’t affected in the same way as the b. russians but they are taking ages to ripen though.
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could be the cold – altho’ with my luck, the toms are seriously thinking of catching the wilt – they usually do. only tiny fruit on these. these are ‘brandywine’ and should be grown in summer – ‘burnley bounty’ and ‘rougue de marmarne’ are meant for winter – but i had these seed.
Date: 23/07/2010 11:32:33
From: pepe
ID: 95937
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pomolo said:
pepe said:
asparagus is sending up spears already. there’s a little fennel seedling over to the right of screen.
poppies are popping up in amongst the unweeded onions/leeks.
an unidentified brassica with the same coloured, but different shaped, leaves to the neighbouring kale.



I’d love to get stuck into those weeds Pepe. I’d do it for that one stick of asparagus you know.
you are sick – go and lie down – this weeding fetish will pass – especially if you saw how much of it there is.
Date: 23/07/2010 11:48:57
From: Lucky1
ID: 95938
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
Lucky1 said:
Meant to have messaged you earlier Pepe…… Either Saturday afternoon or Monday morning suits us for a visit. If that suits you …….. I have worm wee for you too.
We won’t do a meal with you as the elf needs certain foods each meal now….don’t want you putting yourself out……
yeah – saturday arvo sounds good.
two dry bales of barley straw here for ya ($3.50 each) and some liquid pigeon poo.
we are constantly weeding now so – no plans for the w/e.
Oh great see you around say 2 pm:)
Date: 23/07/2010 11:51:32
From: pepe
ID: 95939
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Lucky1 said:
pepe said:
Lucky1 said:
Meant to have messaged you earlier Pepe…… Either Saturday afternoon or Monday morning suits us for a visit. If that suits you …….. I have worm wee for you too.
We won’t do a meal with you as the elf needs certain foods each meal now….don’t want you putting yourself out……
yeah – saturday arvo sounds good.
two dry bales of barley straw here for ya ($3.50 each) and some liquid pigeon poo.
we are constantly weeding now so – no plans for the w/e.
Oh great see you around say 2 pm:)
good – seeya then.
Date: 23/07/2010 11:52:07
From: Lucky1
ID: 95941
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
Lucky1 said:
pepe said:
yeah – saturday arvo sounds good.
two dry bales of barley straw here for ya ($3.50 each) and some liquid pigeon poo.
we are constantly weeding now so – no plans for the w/e.
Oh great see you around say 2 pm:)
good – seeya then.
sweet
Date: 23/07/2010 13:21:55
From: Dinetta
ID: 95956
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
So is it the cold that causes the tom leaves to curl down like that? We have black russians doing the same thing and I have wondered at the cause. The bushes are laden with fruit and it’s taking them ages to colour and ripen. I don’t think I have ever grown toms through the coldest months before. The roma tomatoes aren’t affected in the same way as the b. russians but they are taking ages to ripen though.
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could be the cold – altho’ with my luck, the toms are seriously thinking of catching the wilt – they usually do. only tiny fruit on these. these are ‘brandywine’ and should be grown in summer – ‘burnley bounty’ and ‘rougue de marmarne’ are meant for winter – but i had these seed.
SweetPea (from the Old Forum) did not have success with BrandyWine, she lives on the Riverina (?) and she said it didn’t cope with the heat as well as they claimed…so maybe it is an early summer tomato? Would be interesting to see if you can get it to keep going, if it comes good…I’ve known tomatoes to last for ages if they’re fed and watered aright…
Date: 24/07/2010 10:50:58
From: pomolo
ID: 96133
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
pomolo said:
pepe said:
asparagus is sending up spears already. there’s a little fennel seedling over to the right of screen.
poppies are popping up in amongst the unweeded onions/leeks.
an unidentified brassica with the same coloured, but different shaped, leaves to the neighbouring kale.



I’d love to get stuck into those weeds Pepe. I’d do it for that one stick of asparagus you know.
you are sick – go and lie down – this weeding fetish will pass – especially if you saw how much of it there is.
I don’t really think it’s going to pass at all. I’ve been a weed freak for years. Part of my daily ritual is to walk the house pad with either zero weeding brush or special broken long bladed knife in hand for killing weeds. Weeds shiver and shake when they see me coming.
Date: 24/07/2010 11:25:27
From: Lucky1
ID: 96144
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Weeds shiver and shake when they see me coming.
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Rhubarb used to do that with me….lol
Date: 24/07/2010 11:28:39
From: Lucky1
ID: 96147
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Pepe has about 4 2 ltr plus bottles of worm wee for his garden……….love swapping good fert with him:)
Wonder if he’s got plain chives and if so ….would he notice them missing after we’re gone?????
Date: 24/07/2010 11:30:04
From: Lucky1
ID: 96148
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Lucky1 said:
Pepe has about 4 2 ltr plus bottles of worm wee for his garden……….love swapping good fert with him:)
Wonder if he’s got plain chives and if so ….would he notice them missing after we’re gone?????
oops…4 × 2 ltr bottles.
Date: 24/07/2010 11:40:13
From: pepe
ID: 96153
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Lucky1 said:
Pepe has about 4 2 ltr plus bottles of worm wee for his garden……….love swapping good fert with him:) Wonder if he’s got plain chives and if so ….would he notice them missing after we’re gone?????
morning lucky1.
that’s a lot of ww. what have i missed ?
i told the missus that the world’s biggest stirrer is coming round this arvo – and to hide everything – particularly the spring onions.
Date: 24/07/2010 11:44:13
From: Lucky1
ID: 96157
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
Lucky1 said:
Pepe has about 4 2 ltr plus bottles of worm wee for his garden……….love swapping good fert with him:) Wonder if he’s got plain chives and if so ….would he notice them missing after we’re gone?????
morning lucky1.
that’s a lot of ww. what have i missed ?
i told the missus that the world’s biggest stirrer is coming round this arvo – and to hide everything – particularly the spring onions.
Bite me…lol
You got plenty of them and parsley have you?? I could bring you a bunch of fresh parley if you want. How about another comfrey plant??? How is your’s going??
Date: 24/07/2010 11:51:17
From: pepe
ID: 96161
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Lucky1 said:
pepe said:
Lucky1 said:
Pepe has about 4 2 ltr plus bottles of worm wee for his garden……….love swapping good fert with him:) Wonder if he’s got plain chives and if so ….would he notice them missing after we’re gone?????
morning lucky1.
that’s a lot of ww. what have i missed ?
i told the missus that the world’s biggest stirrer is coming round this arvo – and to hide everything – particularly the spring onions.
Bite me…lol You got plenty of them and parsley have you?? I could bring you a bunch of fresh parley if you want. How about another comfrey plant??? How is your’s going??
my comfrey and parsley are ok. altho’ by your standards the comfrey might be a little plant – i don’t use it at all.
is your asparagus shooting? i could probably do with a bit of advice – just bring your knowledge.
Date: 24/07/2010 11:58:39
From: Lucky1
ID: 96166
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
Lucky1 said:
pepe said:
morning lucky1.
that’s a lot of ww. what have i missed ?
i told the missus that the world’s biggest stirrer is coming round this arvo – and to hide everything – particularly the spring onions.
Bite me…lol You got plenty of them and parsley have you?? I could bring you a bunch of fresh parley if you want. How about another comfrey plant??? How is your’s going??
my comfrey and parsley are ok. altho’ by your standards the comfrey might be a little plant – i don’t use it at all.
is your asparagus shooting? i could probably do with a bit of advice – just bring your knowledge.
nope asparagus isn’t shooting yet……. I’ll check out your comfrey and try and not laugh (did I write that???) shame!!! And if you want another one…when the warmer weather is here I’ll dig up some of mine. Comfrey is great for the poultry and compost as a heater upper.
Date: 24/07/2010 12:25:15
From: pomolo
ID: 96178
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Lucky1 said:
Weeds shiver and shake when they see me coming.
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Rhubarb used to do that with me….lol
My rhubarb hasn’t gone dormant this winter. I wish it had because we are waiting to transplant it to it’s new bed.
Date: 24/07/2010 18:30:54
From: Lucky1
ID: 96237
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Back from another fantastic visit to Pepe’s place. Mrs. Pepe was there too:D
With Pepe’s garden it never stops amazing me how much is going on and how busy his garden is. Elf scored an endive plant for the kitchen and we scored some lemons too. Plus the pigeon poop mixed ready for feeding the leafy greens in the months to come. Had a couple of cuppas and a lovely macadamia fudge slice. YUMMO!!!
Pepe’s chooks are looking FAB to VG…….Aspro the rooster we gave them is just so stunning……
Firm hand shake from PM to Pepe via me.
Hug to Pepe from the girls…….
Asparagus …well there was a yummy spear with my name on it…..lol but I forgot to nick it on the way home.
Tried out some lighter coloured celery and it was so sweet and crisp too. Very yummy and not bitter.
There is this huge rhubarb plant (neglected) near their ponds. Man it had the reddest stalks on it with wide leaves. I think the one I have is a different variety as mine doesn’t have as dark red stalks.
But my comfrey is big than Pepe’s….hehehehe
Cuddled their dogs…..
Just a wonderful 3 hours and at one stage the sun shone….first time this week I think too.
Thanks Pepe & Mrs. P for a wonderful afternoon.
Just loved visiting you and your garden…….:D
Date: 24/07/2010 18:39:41
From: pain master
ID: 96241
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Lucky1 said:
Firm hand shake from PM to Pepe via me.
Thank you Lucky1, and it sounds like you had a FabTab of a day! It is great fun to meet up with fellow forumers; I myself am still buzzing from seeing Bubba again during the week. Great stuff!
Date: 24/07/2010 18:40:36
From: veg gardener
ID: 96242
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
glad his chooks are doing well.
Date: 24/07/2010 18:43:54
From: Lucky1
ID: 96243
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pain master said:
Lucky1 said:
Firm hand shake from PM to Pepe via me.
Thank you Lucky1, and it sounds like you had a FabTab of a day! It is great fun to meet up with fellow forumers; I myself am still buzzing from seeing Bubba again during the week. Great stuff!
I wish you could see Pepe’s place……..so much happening;)
Date: 24/07/2010 18:44:05
From: Lucky1
ID: 96244
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
veg gardener said:
glad his chooks are doing well.
Me too VG:)
Date: 24/07/2010 19:08:26
From: Happy Potter
ID: 96248
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Aw lovely to read, sounds like yous had a great visit.
Good on yas :D
Date: 24/07/2010 19:10:01
From: Lucky1
ID: 96250
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Happy Potter said:
Aw lovely to read, sounds like yous had a great visit.
Good on yas :D
Thanks…it was a lovely visit.
Date: 24/07/2010 20:22:49
From: pepe
ID: 96256
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Thanks Pepe & Mrs. P for a wonderful afternoon.
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a pleasure as always…. and thanks for the WW (worm wee).
interesting education on asparagus – ‘ the big spears are the males the little ones are female and … wait for it … the males are the good’uns… LOL.
Date: 24/07/2010 20:25:41
From: pepe
ID: 96257
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
veg gardener said:
glad his chooks are doing well.
thanks – altho’ your setup puts mine to shame.
you have certainly had a lot of success since we have known you.
Date: 24/07/2010 20:25:56
From: Lucky1
ID: 96258
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
Thanks Pepe & Mrs. P for a wonderful afternoon.
——-
a pleasure as always…. and thanks for the WW (worm wee).
interesting education on asparagus – ‘ the big spears are the males the little ones are female and … wait for it … the males are the good’uns… LOL.
Yep you guys did something right for a change….lol
Only kidding…..hehehe
Yeah it was a great afternoon. :D
Date: 24/07/2010 20:28:15
From: Lucky1
ID: 96259
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Bit of asparagus info for you all.
http://urbanext.illinois.edu/veggies/asparagus.cfm
Date: 24/07/2010 20:35:57
From: pepe
ID: 96260
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Lucky1 said:
Bit of asparagus info for you all.
http://urbanext.illinois.edu/veggies/asparagus.cfm
thanks – handy info.
i planted mine from seed and there’s about 5 in all. this will be their third year – so my first meager harvest coming up.
Date: 24/07/2010 20:38:42
From: Lucky1
ID: 96261
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
Lucky1 said:
Bit of asparagus info for you all.
http://urbanext.illinois.edu/veggies/asparagus.cfm
thanks – handy info.
i planted mine from seed and there’s about 5 in all. this will be their third year – so my first meager harvest coming up.
Elf gets sick of them here…….. I love them…so sweet and tender. I’ll have to send some your way and give him a rest in the harvest season.
Date: 24/07/2010 22:45:43
From: pomolo
ID: 96284
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
Thanks Pepe & Mrs. P for a wonderful afternoon.
——-
a pleasure as always…. and thanks for the WW (worm wee).
interesting education on asparagus – ‘ the big spears are the males the little ones are female and … wait for it … the males are the good’uns… LOL.
Have you heard about the lazy male flowers on my pumpkin vine, Pepe. Big fat female flowers all over it and no males to pollinate any of them. Useless lot.
Date: 25/07/2010 08:21:16
From: Dinetta
ID: 96302
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Lucky1 said:
pain master said:
Lucky1 said:
Firm hand shake from PM to Pepe via me.
Thank you Lucky1, and it sounds like you had a FabTab of a day! It is great fun to meet up with fellow forumers; I myself am still buzzing from seeing Bubba again during the week. Great stuff!
I wish you could see Pepe’s place……..so much happening;)
I saw an aerial photo over on the “official” GA message board and was astonished at the extent of his efforts…but “good” astonished..
Date: 25/07/2010 08:23:53
From: Dinetta
ID: 96303
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Lucky1 said:
pepe said:
Lucky1 said:
Bit of asparagus info for you all.
http://urbanext.illinois.edu/veggies/asparagus.cfm
thanks – handy info.
i planted mine from seed and there’s about 5 in all. this will be their third year – so my first meager harvest coming up.
Elf gets sick of them here…….. I love them…so sweet and tender. I’ll have to send some your way and give him a rest in the harvest season.
Fashionasta took to the white ones that they grow in Germany…one of the highlights when she went back recently, was introducing Grandad to white asparagus…they grow asparagus like we grow tomatoes…
Date: 25/07/2010 09:38:41
From: veg gardener
ID: 96352
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
veg gardener said:
glad his chooks are doing well.
thanks – altho’ your setup puts mine to shame.
you have certainly had a lot of success since we have known you.
Thanks pepe, Big fowl get to stay out with the goats from when the billy comes home, hopefully they get along.
Date: 27/07/2010 09:36:34
From: pepe
ID: 96658
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
a cold morning with easterly wind and thus no morning dew. a full moon low in the western sky and a bunny running out of the dark to scare me.
i’ve been weeding, spraying, mowing and pruning a lot. witness the 20+ barrow load compost on the left.

Date: 27/07/2010 09:41:06
From: Happy Potter
ID: 96660
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
a cold morning with easterly wind and thus no morning dew. a full moon low in the western sky and a bunny running out of the dark to scare me.
i’ve been weeding, spraying, mowing and pruning a lot. witness the 20+ barrow load compost on the left.

Oh well done Pepe! That compost looks perfect!
Date: 27/07/2010 09:43:55
From: Happy Potter
ID: 96661
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Pepe, how in blazes do you turn that compost pile ?
I’d need a clean empty cement mixer truck for that much!
Date: 27/07/2010 10:01:15
From: pepe
ID: 96662
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Happy Potter said:
Pepe, how in blazes do you turn that compost pile ? I’d need a clean empty cement mixer truck for that much!
morning HP.
i too am following your every move in the sourdough experiment. we’re all chicken except you.
how do i turn the pile? – with a fork. it takes nearly an hour. i’m hoping that heap will warm up and break down to half it’s height by week’s end.
Date: 27/07/2010 10:10:31
From: Happy Potter
ID: 96664
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
Happy Potter said:
Pepe, how in blazes do you turn that compost pile ? I’d need a clean empty cement mixer truck for that much!
morning HP.
i too am following your every move in the sourdough experiment. we’re all chicken except you.
how do i turn the pile? – with a fork. it takes nearly an hour. i’m hoping that heap will warm up and break down to half it’s height by week’s end.
Ok. I’m in awe of it. The amount of compost that is.
Date: 27/07/2010 11:40:32
From: pepe
ID: 96671
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
this 2 kg of spud was just harvested from the unharvested leftovers of last year’s failed crop. last year was dry and not one of the spuds was as big as those three in front. this year the soil is sodden, the spuds are buried below horse manure, sand, mulch and straw.
yet another fluke.

Date: 27/07/2010 11:44:03
From: Happy Potter
ID: 96672
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
this 2 kg of spud was just harvested from the unharvested leftovers of last year’s failed crop. last year was dry and not one of the spuds was as big as those three in front. this year the soil is sodden, the spuds are buried below horse manure, sand, mulch and straw.
yet another fluke.

Need more detailed info. Does that mean you grew them last year, they were too small/dry so you left them in, and then got this lot ?
Date: 27/07/2010 11:50:12
From: pepe
ID: 96674
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Happy Potter said:
pepe said:
this 2 kg of spud was just harvested from the unharvested leftovers of last year’s failed crop. last year was dry and not one of the spuds was as big as those three in front. this year the soil is sodden, the spuds are buried below horse manure, sand, mulch and straw.
yet another fluke.

Need more detailed info. Does that mean you grew them last year, they were too small/dry so you left them in, and then got this lot ?
that’s right.
i put a 10kg bag of uncertified chats (smalls) in an area about 4×12m last winter. no rain so nothing happened. i got sick of harvesting a poor crop so i spread some good soil to level the ground and planted barley. birds got barley. spuds started sprouting everywhere so i mulched them with straw. now i’m getting very pretty babies from very poor parents. noice and choice.
Date: 27/07/2010 11:54:43
From: Happy Potter
ID: 96676
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
Happy Potter said:
pepe said:
this 2 kg of spud was just harvested from the unharvested leftovers of last year’s failed crop. last year was dry and not one of the spuds was as big as those three in front. this year the soil is sodden, the spuds are buried below horse manure, sand, mulch and straw.
yet another fluke.

Need more detailed info. Does that mean you grew them last year, they were too small/dry so you left them in, and then got this lot ?
that’s right.
i put a 10kg bag of uncertified chats (smalls) in an area about 4×12m last winter. no rain so nothing happened. i got sick of harvesting a poor crop so i spread some good soil to level the ground and planted barley. birds got barley. spuds started sprouting everywhere so i mulched them with straw. now i’m getting very pretty babies from very poor parents. noice and choice.
Great then! I didn’t know you could just leave them be.
Date: 27/07/2010 14:05:40
From: Lucky1
ID: 96679
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
Happy Potter said:
Pepe, how in blazes do you turn that compost pile ? I’d need a clean empty cement mixer truck for that much!
morning HP.
i too am following your every move in the sourdough experiment. we’re all chicken except you.
how do i turn the pile? – with a fork. it takes nearly an hour. i’m hoping that heap will warm up and break down to half it’s height by week’s end.
I’ve turned mine with a fork too…I then need a shower and a lay down…lol
Date: 27/07/2010 14:06:25
From: Lucky1
ID: 96680
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
this 2 kg of spud was just harvested from the unharvested leftovers of last year’s failed crop. last year was dry and not one of the spuds was as big as those three in front. this year the soil is sodden, the spuds are buried below horse manure, sand, mulch and straw.
yet another fluke.

Very nice:)
Date: 27/07/2010 14:10:57
From: pepe
ID: 96681
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Great then! I didn’t know you could just leave them be.
————————-
in theory you pull them up and replant certified seed each year.
so doing it this way you run the risk of disease.
in practice it didn’t happen – but even i reckon this lot will not be replanted.
i have 3 lots of certified spud growing and their little ones can be seed next year seed.
Date: 27/07/2010 14:19:15
From: pepe
ID: 96685
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Lucky1 said:
pepe said:
Happy Potter said:
Pepe, how in blazes do you turn that compost pile ? I’d need a clean empty cement mixer truck for that much!
morning HP.
i too am following your every move in the sourdough experiment. we’re all chicken except you.
how do i turn the pile? – with a fork. it takes nearly an hour. i’m hoping that heap will warm up and break down to half it’s height by week’s end.
I’ve turned mine with a fork too…I then need a shower and a lay down…lol
the first one i turned took 2 hours. but i can chuck a lot over the top. i still take numerous breaks to stretch the back. its not a job i like.
except – if the heap is smouldering – then i can occupy the mind exploring how much of it is smoking.
Date: 27/07/2010 14:30:20
From: Dinetta
ID: 96688
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
a cold morning with easterly wind and thus no morning dew. a full moon low in the western sky and a bunny running out of the dark to scare me.
i’ve been weeding, spraying, mowing and pruning a lot. witness the 20+ barrow load compost on the left.

Very well Done!!
Date: 27/07/2010 14:35:25
From: Dinetta
ID: 96692
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
that’s right.
i put a 10kg bag of uncertified chats (smalls) in an area about 4×12m last winter. no rain so nothing happened. i got sick of harvesting a poor crop so i spread some good soil to level the ground and planted barley. birds got barley. spuds started sprouting everywhere so i mulched them with straw. now i’m getting very pretty babies from very poor parents. noice and choice.
talk about “accidental gardening” LOL!
Date: 28/07/2010 02:11:12
From: pain master
ID: 96718
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
a cold morning with easterly wind and thus no morning dew. a full moon low in the western sky and a bunny running out of the dark to scare me.
i’ve been weeding, spraying, mowing and pruning a lot. witness the 20+ barrow load compost on the left.

lovely compost pepe, our’s is a bit quiet at the moment, not enough grass clipping and too many mango leafs.
Date: 28/07/2010 02:19:09
From: pain master
ID: 96721
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
this 2 kg of spud was just harvested from the unharvested leftovers of last year’s failed crop. last year was dry and not one of the spuds was as big as those three in front. this year the soil is sodden, the spuds are buried below horse manure, sand, mulch and straw.
yet another fluke.

well done at I like the photo production with the spuds on the scale. It makes me believe that there is 2kgs there!!!
My spuddies are at a crossroad…. recent introduction of more soil around their stems may have damaged one or two stems and they have collapsed. The rest are looking okay. We are concerned and will monitor.
Date: 28/07/2010 02:20:07
From: pain master
ID: 96722
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
Happy Potter said:
pepe said:
this 2 kg of spud was just harvested from the unharvested leftovers of last year’s failed crop. last year was dry and not one of the spuds was as big as those three in front. this year the soil is sodden, the spuds are buried below horse manure, sand, mulch and straw.
yet another fluke.

Need more detailed info. Does that mean you grew them last year, they were too small/dry so you left them in, and then got this lot ?
that’s right.
i put a 10kg bag of uncertified chats (smalls) in an area about 4×12m last winter. no rain so nothing happened. i got sick of harvesting a poor crop so i spread some good soil to level the ground and planted barley. birds got barley. spuds started sprouting everywhere so i mulched them with straw. now i’m getting very pretty babies from very poor parents. noice and choice.
kudos.
Date: 28/07/2010 10:21:13
From: pepe
ID: 96739
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pain master said:
pepe said:
a cold morning with easterly wind and thus no morning dew. a full moon low in the western sky and a bunny running out of the dark to scare me.
i’ve been weeding, spraying, mowing and pruning a lot. witness the 20+ barrow load compost on the left.

lovely compost pepe, our’s is a bit quiet at the moment, not enough grass clipping and too many mango leafs.
we don’t use the bins in summer. any grass you throw on the ground is dead within 2 minutes during summer. in winter tho’ all the weeded grass regrows so you have to pile it up.
Date: 28/07/2010 10:23:57
From: pepe
ID: 96740
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pain master said:
pepe said:
this 2 kg of spud was just harvested from the unharvested leftovers of last year’s failed crop. last year was dry and not one of the spuds was as big as those three in front. this year the soil is sodden, the spuds are buried below horse manure, sand, mulch and straw.
yet another fluke.

well done at I like the photo production with the spuds on the scale. It makes me believe that there is 2kgs there!!!
My spuddies are at a crossroad…. recent introduction of more soil around their stems may have damaged one or two stems and they have collapsed. The rest are looking okay. We are concerned and will monitor.
normally you peek by digging up the end plant and seeing what’s underneath.
absolute orgy of potato eating here – tuna patties, murphy bread for brekky, and now pasties. i figure it’s best to eat them fresh.
Date: 28/07/2010 10:44:42
From: pepe
ID: 96742
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Dinetta said:
pepe said:
that’s right.
i put a 10kg bag of uncertified chats (smalls) in an area about 4×12m last winter. no rain so nothing happened. i got sick of harvesting a poor crop so i spread some good soil to level the ground and planted barley. birds got barley. spuds started sprouting everywhere so i mulched them with straw. now i’m getting very pretty babies from very poor parents. noice and choice.
talk about “accidental gardening” LOL!
some people have already used the ‘accidental gardener’ tag so i have renamed it ‘flukey’.
it is a way of coping with the failures – celebrate the good luck when it comes.
Date: 28/07/2010 17:02:03
From: pepe
ID: 96769
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
admire the baking but excuse the photography.
about 3 dozen nutties and 1 dozen cornish pasties.


Date: 28/07/2010 17:47:42
From: Dinetta
ID: 96778
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
admire the baking but excuse the photography.
about 3 dozen nutties and 1 dozen cornish pasties.


May I ask what a “nuttie” is, and I ate a whole packet of biscuits after reading about these pasties…grrr…
Date: 28/07/2010 18:02:04
From: bluegreen
ID: 96787
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Dinetta said:
pepe said:
admire the baking but excuse the photography.
about 3 dozen nutties and 1 dozen cornish pasties.


May I ask what a “nuttie” is, and I ate a whole packet of biscuits after reading about these pasties…grrr…
here’s mine :)
although I didn’t follow pepe’s recipe in the end. Instead of the minced meat I used leftover lamb and gravy from a casserole, with some diced potato, carrot and turnip. Could have done with some herbs or some more seasoning but I was happy with it for a first try. Pleased with the pastry too, although I still can’t figure how pepe can get 12 pasties out of 250g of flour, as I only got 6 out of 450g!!


Date: 28/07/2010 18:06:40
From: Lucky1
ID: 96794
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
bluegreen said:
Dinetta said:
pepe said:
admire the baking but excuse the photography.
about 3 dozen nutties and 1 dozen cornish pasties.


May I ask what a “nuttie” is, and I ate a whole packet of biscuits after reading about these pasties…grrr…
here’s mine :)
although I didn’t follow pepe’s recipe in the end. Instead of the minced meat I used leftover lamb and gravy from a casserole, with some diced potato, carrot and turnip. Could have done with some herbs or some more seasoning but I was happy with it for a first try. Pleased with the pastry too, although I still can’t figure how pepe can get 12 pasties out of 250g of flour, as I only got 6 out of 450g!!


Oh yummo from both of you:)
Date: 28/07/2010 18:14:06
From: pepe
ID: 96798
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
here’s mine :)
although I didn’t follow pepe’s recipe in the end. Instead of the minced meat I used leftover lamb and gravy from a casserole, with some diced potato, carrot and turnip. Could have done with some herbs or some more seasoning but I was happy with it for a first try. Pleased with the pastry too, although I still can’t figure how pepe can get 12 pasties out of 250g of flour, as I only got 6 out of 450g!!
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sexy egg white gloss LOL.
- your pastry is much thicker than mine.
brilliant first effort.
Date: 30/07/2010 02:23:06
From: pain master
ID: 96942
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
absolute orgy of potato eating here – tuna patties, murphy bread for brekky, and now pasties. i figure it’s best to eat them fresh.
and Murphybread is?
Date: 30/07/2010 10:11:20
From: pepe
ID: 96957
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pain master said:
pepe said:
absolute orgy of potato eating here – tuna patties, murphy bread for brekky, and now pasties. i figure it’s best to eat them fresh.
and Murphybread is?
mashed potato blended with plain flour until its a stiff dough. then rolled out, cut in slices and fried in olive oil and butter. add salt.
ok for breakfast occasionally.
Date: 30/07/2010 10:17:58
From: bluegreen
ID: 96958
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
pain master said:
pepe said:
absolute orgy of potato eating here – tuna patties, murphy bread for brekky, and now pasties. i figure it’s best to eat them fresh.
and Murphybread is?
mashed potato blended with plain flour until its a stiff dough. then rolled out, cut in slices and fried in olive oil and butter. add salt.
ok for breakfast occasionally.
a sort of hash brown..
Date: 30/07/2010 10:22:00
From: pepe
ID: 96962
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
bluegreen said:
pepe said:
pain master said:
and Murphybread is?
mashed potato blended with plain flour until its a stiff dough. then rolled out, cut in slices and fried in olive oil and butter. add salt.
ok for breakfast occasionally.
a sort of hash brown..
mmm? – more like a fried potato bread. its a bit flatter and more rustic than the maccas thing.
Date: 30/07/2010 10:24:44
From: bluegreen
ID: 96963
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
mmm? – more like a fried potato bread. its a bit flatter and more rustic than the maccas thing.
commercial hash browns don’t count! Real hash browns are just potato, so the addition of flour changes that to something else. do you use plain or self raising flour? does it puff up?
Date: 30/07/2010 10:26:57
From: pepe
ID: 96964
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
bluegreen said:
pepe said:
mmm? – more like a fried potato bread. its a bit flatter and more rustic than the maccas thing.
commercial hash browns don’t count! Real hash browns are just potato, so the addition of flour changes that to something else. do you use plain or self raising flour? does it puff up?
plain flour – but hey – the recipe is the ultimate in flexibility.
Date: 30/07/2010 10:28:25
From: Happy Potter
ID: 96966
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
bluegreen said:
pepe said:
mashed potato blended with plain flour until its a stiff dough. then rolled out, cut in slices and fried in olive oil and butter. add salt.
ok for breakfast occasionally.
a sort of hash brown..
mmm? – more like a fried potato bread. its a bit flatter and more rustic than the maccas thing.
Bit like flattened fried gnocci.
Date: 30/07/2010 10:30:23
From: bluegreen
ID: 96968
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
chatting with you two makes me feel like cooking stuff! You are a good influence!
Date: 30/07/2010 10:35:30
From: Happy Potter
ID: 96971
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
bluegreen said:
chatting with you two makes me feel like cooking stuff! You are a good influence!
Me too LOL.
I will have to try that murphys bread , it sounds yum!
I remember fried bread. Drool..
Date: 30/07/2010 10:37:34
From: pepe
ID: 96972
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
bluegreen said:
chatting with you two makes me feel like cooking stuff! You are a good influence!
chuckle – simple and sophisticated – guess who’s the simple one.
Date: 30/07/2010 12:48:25
From: bon008
ID: 96980
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
bluegreen said:
chatting with you two makes me feel like cooking stuff! You are a good influence!
All it does to me is make me feel like eating :D
Date: 30/07/2010 13:16:10
From: bluegreen
ID: 96985
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
bon008 said:
bluegreen said:
chatting with you two makes me feel like cooking stuff! You are a good influence!
All it does to me is make me feel like eating :D
lol! Osso Bucco is cooking :)
Date: 30/07/2010 18:31:06
From: pain master
ID: 97011
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
pain master said:
pepe said:
absolute orgy of potato eating here – tuna patties, murphy bread for brekky, and now pasties. i figure it’s best to eat them fresh.
and Murphybread is?
mashed potato blended with plain flour until its a stiff dough. then rolled out, cut in slices and fried in olive oil and butter. add salt.
ok for breakfast occasionally.
thank you, come again…
Date: 31/07/2010 13:19:32
From: pepe
ID: 97090
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
this is compost time .
photo one – the compost a week ago with a new big heap on the left
photo two – the big heap has subsided to half its original size and has been turned.
photo three – the ‘finished’ compost becomes a natural worm farm until september


Date: 31/07/2010 13:22:07
From: Lucky1
ID: 97091
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
this is compost time .
photo one – the compost a week ago with a new big heap on the left
photo two – the big heap has subsided to half its original size and has been turned.
photo three – the ‘finished’ compost becomes a natural worm farm until september


Oh compost porn at its best:) You put my pile to shame……needs turning again….sigh
Date: 6/08/2010 17:36:33
From: pepe
ID: 97614
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
make that cold months.
i’m starting to fix up the strawbs and raspberries now. ….. but first i have to pipe the overflow of the little tank under the paths.
i emptied over thirty mills of rain out of the gauge – so i have officially lost track of the year’s rainfall but it’s been reasonably good.
Date: 6/08/2010 18:14:16
From: pomolo
ID: 97619
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
make that cold months.
i’m starting to fix up the strawbs and raspberries now. ….. but first i have to pipe the overflow of the little tank under the paths.
i emptied over thirty mills of rain out of the gauge – so i have officially lost track of the year’s rainfall but it’s been reasonably good.
Excellent rain there Pepe. Gives you hope doesn’t it?
Date: 7/08/2010 09:19:16
From: pepe
ID: 97697
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pomolo said:
pepe said:
make that cold months. i’m starting to fix up the strawbs and raspberries now. ….. but first i have to pipe the overflow of the little tank under the paths. i emptied over thirty mills of rain out of the gauge – so i have officially lost track of the year’s rainfall but it’s been reasonably good.
Excellent rain there Pepe. Gives you hope doesn’t it?
yeah after three drought years even slippery, slidey mud seems desirable.
Date: 19/08/2010 19:18:12
From: pepe
ID: 99355
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
turnips and asparagus are the new crops at present.
thinning out the turnips have resulted in beaut bulbs. the asparagus is a bit of an unknown cooking ingredient.
peas were skeletonised (?) by birds as soon as i removed the netting.
i’m picking good carrots, beetroot, lettuce, parsley, spuds, celery, beetroot, silver beet, kale.
i’m still getting capsicums and i would get broccoli if i trimmed all the flowers off.
one navel orange tree is producing ripe fruit at present. i will prune as soon as the last one is picked. 5 of the 8 citrus have been pruned – rather well i think.
plenty of onions, spuds, ‘chokes. cabbage and leeks coming on well.
the big disaster is the strawberry/ raspberry jungle. enuff said.
Date: 19/08/2010 19:40:21
From: pepe
ID: 99357
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
the great news is the worm population. i’m harvesting spuds and worms together. plenty of big fat ones in land that was wormless last year.
viva la good rains.
Date: 19/08/2010 21:02:56
From: Dinetta
ID: 99376
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
the great news is the worm population. i’m harvesting spuds and worms together. plenty of big fat ones in land that was wormless last year.
viva la good rains.
Excellent news!
Date: 20/08/2010 04:51:46
From: pain master
ID: 99410
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
turnips and asparagus are the new crops at present.
thinning out the turnips have resulted in beaut bulbs. the asparagus is a bit of an unknown cooking ingredient.
peas were skeletonised (?) by birds as soon as i removed the netting.
i’m picking good carrots, beetroot, lettuce, parsley, spuds, celery, beetroot, silver beet, kale.
i’m still getting capsicums and i would get broccoli if i trimmed all the flowers off.
one navel orange tree is producing ripe fruit at present. i will prune as soon as the last one is picked. 5 of the 8 citrus have been pruned – rather well i think.
plenty of onions, spuds, ‘chokes. cabbage and leeks coming on well.
the big disaster is the strawberry/ raspberry jungle. enuff said.
we bought Mary Washington seeds, but fear our soil may be too acidic, so they are still in their package.
we have not grown peas, but our beans that showed signs of mosaic on their first set of leaves have survived and we are eating a feed, once a week.
we have a baby capsicum but it is slow, unlike the chillies which are booming along
my well pruned/butchered lemon and mandarin are re-shooting and the thrips like this
we found a sweet potato in the patch while bandicooting away. The orange spud was 25cms long and around 16cm in girth. Some was consumed last night.
Date: 20/08/2010 10:39:01
From: Happy Potter
ID: 99430
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Pepe you have done brilliantly :)
I couldn’t tame my raspberries so they had to go. I hope you have better luck with them.
Date: 22/08/2010 10:46:34
From: pepe
ID: 99718
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
my nutties – i can produce 3 dozen in an hour
the poa grass with quandong growing in the middle of it
i now have turnips – very easy growing – and i use them in cornish pasties



Date: 22/08/2010 11:23:29
From: pain master
ID: 99731
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
my nutties – i can produce 3 dozen in an hour
the poa grass with quandong growing in the middle of it
i now have turnips – very easy growing – and i use them in cornish pasties



couch is also good for quondongs.
Date: 22/08/2010 12:08:19
From: pomolo
ID: 99760
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
my nutties – i can produce 3 dozen in an hour
the poa grass with quandong growing in the middle of it
i now have turnips – very easy growing – and i use them in cornish pasties



Yum to the nutties. I don’t know just what they are but they look good.
Date: 22/08/2010 12:33:19
From: pepe
ID: 99780
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pain master said:
pepe said:
my nutties – i can produce 3 dozen in an hour
the poa grass with quandong growing in the middle of it
i now have turnips – very easy growing – and i use them in cornish pasties



couch is also good for quondongs.
i see – come again?
(mutters something about …… weed lovers)
Date: 22/08/2010 12:35:57
From: pain master
ID: 99785
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
pain master said:
pepe said:
my nutties – i can produce 3 dozen in an hour
the poa grass with quandong growing in the middle of it
i now have turnips – very easy growing – and i use them in cornish pasties



couch is also good for quondongs.
i see – come again?
(mutters something about …… weed lovers)
well you know how the quondong needs to have a host to get started, couch grass works very well as such.
Date: 22/08/2010 12:39:23
From: pepe
ID: 99786
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pomolo said:
pepe said:
my nutties – i can produce 3 dozen in an hour
the poa grass with quandong growing in the middle of it
i now have turnips – very easy growing – and i use them in cornish pasties



Yum to the nutties. I don’t know just what they are but they look good.
anzacs with nuts.
collie – shutup LOL.
Date: 22/08/2010 13:14:07
From: Dinetta
ID: 99801
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
my nutties – i can produce 3 dozen in an hour
the poa grass with quandong growing in the middle of it
i now have turnips – very easy growing – and i use them in cornish pasties



Love these photos…they keep me interested in my own garden…
Date: 22/08/2010 13:55:30
From: pepe
ID: 99809
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
Dinetta said:
pepe said:
my nutties – i can produce 3 dozen in an hour
the poa grass with quandong growing in the middle of it
i now have turnips – very easy growing – and i use them in cornish pasties



Love these photos…they keep me interested in my own garden…
thanks – i’m mowing weeds today – so i need a bit of motivation myself.
beautiful day tho’ – better outside than in.
Date: 22/08/2010 14:24:30
From: pomolo
ID: 99815
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
pomolo said:
pepe said:
my nutties – i can produce 3 dozen in an hour
the poa grass with quandong growing in the middle of it
i now have turnips – very easy growing – and i use them in cornish pasties



Yum to the nutties. I don’t know just what they are but they look good.
anzacs with nuts.
collie – shutup LOL.
That helps me……………….not.
Date: 22/08/2010 14:33:34
From: pepe
ID: 99821
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pomolo said:
pepe said:
pomolo said:
Yum to the nutties. I don’t know just what they are but they look good.
anzacs with nuts.
collie – shutup LOL.
That helps me……………….not.
add 30 grams of crushed nuts to your anzac biscuit recipe. they are called ‘nutties’ then – not anzacs.
Date: 22/08/2010 14:35:51
From: pomolo
ID: 99823
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
pepe said:
pomolo said:
pepe said:
anzacs with nuts.
collie – shutup LOL.
That helps me……………….not.
add 30 grams of crushed nuts to your anzac biscuit recipe. they are called ‘nutties’ then – not anzacs.
You’re kidding. You clever bloke you are. OK then it’s nutties when I come to visit.
Date: 31/08/2010 11:58:39
From: pepe
ID: 100764
Subject: re: peps in the cold month
italian leaf parsley has grown to the size of a small shrub but is starting to go to seed.
leeks, galangal, garlic and lemon balm.

