Date: 4/10/2021 12:45:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1798828
Subject: COVID Oct 4 to Oct 10
NSW numbers continue to fall.
Has Vic peaked?
Date: 4/10/2021 14:10:11
From: Tamb
ID: 1798869
Subject: re: COVID Oct 4 to Oct 10
Qld today
NSW numbers continue to fall.
Has Vic peaked?
relative to tests or to reality
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-04/sa-mount-gambier-woman-covid-condition-improves/100511748
So from there:
“We need to do more investigation, we wanted to know more about what the Victorian cases and also the wastewater is looking like in some of those towns, particularly Casterton.”
Looking at the Victorian map and active cases data, Casterton has no active cases.
https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/victorian-coronavirus-covid-19-data
So why is the assumption that she picked it up in Casterton?
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-04/sa-mount-gambier-woman-covid-condition-improves/100511748So from there:
“We need to do more investigation, we wanted to know more about what the Victorian cases and also the wastewater is looking like in some of those towns, particularly Casterton.”
Looking at the Victorian map and active cases data, Casterton has no active cases.
https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/victorian-coronavirus-covid-19-data
So why is the assumption that she picked it up in Casterton?
She visited family there, so there might be cases that the authorities are unaware of.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-04/sa-mount-gambier-woman-covid-condition-improves/100511748So from there:
“We need to do more investigation, we wanted to know more about what the Victorian cases and also the wastewater is looking like in some of those towns, particularly Casterton.”
Looking at the Victorian map and active cases data, Casterton has no active cases.
https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/victorian-coronavirus-covid-19-data
So why is the assumption that she picked it up in Casterton?
She visited family there, so there might be cases that the authorities are unaware of.
Did they find covid poo in the poo and the corn?
Or did they think there was covid pooi in someone’s septic tank?
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-04/sa-mount-gambier-woman-covid-condition-improves/100511748So from there:
“We need to do more investigation, we wanted to know more about what the Victorian cases and also the wastewater is looking like in some of those towns, particularly Casterton.”
Looking at the Victorian map and active cases data, Casterton has no active cases.
https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/victorian-coronavirus-covid-19-data
So why is the assumption that she picked it up in Casterton?
She visited family there, so there might be cases that the authorities are unaware of.
Did they find covid poo in the poo and the corn?
Or did they think there was covid pooi in someone’s septic tank?
No septics there Casterton is sewered
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-04/sa-mount-gambier-woman-covid-condition-improves/100511748So from there:
“We need to do more investigation, we wanted to know more about what the Victorian cases and also the wastewater is looking like in some of those towns, particularly Casterton.”
Looking at the Victorian map and active cases data, Casterton has no active cases.
https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/victorian-coronavirus-covid-19-data
So why is the assumption that she picked it up in Casterton?
She visited family there, so there might be cases that the authorities are unaware of.
I’ve not seen how long she visited family for. Casterton is within 70km of the Mount, people pop back and forth for a day trip for specialist appointments etc and to have lunch with family. You could equally say there might be cases in Mount Gambier that the authorities are unaware of and she was the vector to Casterton.
so basically there’s faecal detection in Casterton but no actual positive personal tests
sounds like some weird shit if you’ll pardon
someone’s hiding something
SCIENCE said:
so basically there’s faecal detection in Casterton but no actual positive personal testssounds like some weird shit if you’ll pardon
someone’s hiding something
is there?
I was just idly speculating.
SCIENCE said:
so basically there’s faecal detection in Casterton but no actual positive personal testssounds like some weird shit if you’ll pardon
someone’s hiding something
Where did you see that there was sewerage detection? In the bit I quoted it was the SA person saying the Casterton sewage should be checked. There was no indication that it had been.
Qld today
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
so basically there’s faecal detection in Casterton but no actual positive personal testssounds like some weird shit if you’ll pardon
someone’s hiding something
Where did you see that there was sewerage detection? In the bit I quoted it was the SA person saying the Casterton sewage should be checked. There was no indication that it had been.
fair we weren’t reading carefully, we’d go digging a bit more but we have an illegal gathering or 10 to get to so maybe tomorrow night
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
so basically there’s faecal detection in Casterton but no actual positive personal testssounds like some weird shit if you’ll pardon
someone’s hiding something
is there?
I was just idly speculating.
It doesn’t look like there has been any testing, at least up to 30 Sept. There is a wastewater treatment plant just out of Casterton.
https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/wastewater-testing#regional-results-for-last-28-days-by-sampling-site-and-suburbs-as-of-30-september-2021
Tau.Neutrino said:
NSW numbers continue to fall.Has Vic peaked?
Modelling from the Burnet Institute, released yesterday, revealed Victoria’s peak for its Delta outbreak is estimated to occur between October 19 and 31, where as many as 1400-2900 daily cases could be recorded over a seven-day average.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/burnet-institute-modelling-predicts-victoria-covid19-cases-could-soar-into-thousands/180cc4d7-c67a-4688-9566-01c991f3a10c
SCIENCE said:
so basically there’s faecal detection in Casterton but no actual positive personal testssounds like some weird shit if you’ll pardon
someone’s hiding something
A passing visitor?
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
so basically there’s faecal detection in Casterton but no actual positive personal tests
sounds like some weird shit if you’ll pardon
someone’s hiding something
A passing visitor?
nah we wouldn’t speculate further if it’s our misreading, but instead consider this fun fact
About 8,000 VCE students got tested on the weekend as part of a testing blitz designed to prevent the virus spreading when year 11 and 12s returned to school to sit the General Assessment Test (GAT). As a result of the blitz, 33 students tested positive for COVID, meaning they will be given a medical exemption from the test.
So less than 0.5%¿ Well, Let It RRRRRip™¡
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
so basically there’s faecal detection in Casterton but no actual positive personal testssounds like some weird shit if you’ll pardon
someone’s hiding something
A passing visitor?
It’s not been tested, according to the link I put up of testing in Victoria.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
so basically there’s faecal detection in Casterton but no actual positive personal testssounds like some weird shit if you’ll pardon
someone’s hiding something
A passing visitor?
or a visitor passing…
buffy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
so basically there’s faecal detection in Casterton but no actual positive personal testssounds like some weird shit if you’ll pardon
someone’s hiding something
A passing visitor?
It’s not been tested, according to the link I put up of testing in Victoria.
A large percentage of infectees have minimal symptoms, especially if vaccinated. A few towns in my local area have had positive sewage tests but no cases have eventuated.
Dark Orange said:
buffy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:A passing visitor?
It’s not been tested, according to the link I put up of testing in Victoria.
A large percentage of infectees have minimal symptoms, especially if vaccinated. A few towns in my local area have had positive sewage tests but no cases have eventuated.
so we’re defining cases the CHINA way now ¿ Symptoms plus test plus, and count test plus no symptoms separately
A Colorado town is about as vaccinated as it can get. COVID still isn’t over there
By Rae Ellen Bichell
October 4, 2021 — 8.22am
Longmont, Colorado: San Juan County, Colorado, can boast that 99.9 per cent of its eligible population has received at least one dose of COVID-19 vaccine, putting it in the top 10 counties in the nation, according to data from the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention.
If vaccines were the singular armor against COVID-19’s spread, then on paper, San Juan County, with its 730 or so residents on file, would be one of the most bulletproof places in the nation.
Yet the past few months have shown the complexity of this phase of the pandemic. Even in an extremely vaccinated place, the shots alone aren’t enough because geographic boundaries are porous, vaccine effectiveness may be waning over time, and the Delta variant is highly contagious. Infectious-disease experts say masks are still necessary to control the spread of the virus.
Read more:
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/a-colorado-town-is-about-as-vaccinated-as-it-can-get-covid-still-isnt-over-there-20211004-p58wws.html
SCIENCE said:
Dark Orange said:
buffy said:It’s not been tested, according to the link I put up of testing in Victoria.
A large percentage of infectees have minimal symptoms, especially if vaccinated. A few towns in my local area have had positive sewage tests but no cases have eventuated.
so we’re defining cases the CHINA way now ¿ Symptoms plus test plus, and count test plus no symptoms separately
For most of the time you have had to have symptoms to get tested. Certainly if you look online at the instructions for getting tested the implication is that if you don’t have symptoms, don’t clog up the testing stations. And during the middle of last year you would have been turned away from testing if you had no symptoms. Of course, you could make them up if you really wanted to be tested.
The Health Minister was giving a Covid health update and some journo asked him “How close are we to a war with China”
Well I gave her a fist shaking spray, had to wipe the screen and the vein in my temple has gone down a bit but it’s still throbbing.
Bloody clowns.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Health Minister was giving a Covid health update and some journo asked him “How close are we to a war with China”
Well I gave her a fist shaking spray, had to wipe the screen and the vein in my temple has gone down a bit but it’s still throbbing.
Bloody clowns.
It might just be the new version of ‘are you proud of yourself?’.
That was a bit of fun that TV journalists indulged in for a while. At the end of the proceedings, one would toss the question ‘are you proud of yourself?’ at the politician, just to see how he/she reacted.
don’t worry the anti vaccination crowd would love to spend your taxpayer money on this Big Pharma option instead
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-04/sotrovimab-covid-treatment-drug-supplies-arrive/100512036
SCIENCE said:
don’t worry the anti vaccination crowd would love to spend your taxpayer money on this Big Pharma option insteadhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-04/sotrovimab-covid-treatment-drug-supplies-arrive/100512036
Will the nutters trust anything from BIG PHARMA?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-04/qld-covid-hospital-ramping-delta-outbreak/100511028
so ¿ Just stop elective surgery for a few years, you’ll cope just fine
remember how we told you that the COVID-19 brain fuck turns people into idiot arseholes
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A 15-year-old Tasmanian boy who was positive for COVID-19 left home quarantine on Saturday, Acting Premier Jeremy Rockliff says.
The shopkeeper has been listed as a close contact
Mr Rockliff said the teen visited an IGA in Newnham with his cousin. The supermarket has now been declared an exposure site.
It is understood the teen was not wearing a mask.
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This initiative has been created by the Million Dollar Vax Alliance, a group of generous philanthropists and corporations to accelerate Australia’s COVID-19 vaccination program. in a safe and secure way. The faster we reach higher vaccination rates nationally, the sooner we all can safely resume our full range of community and business activity.
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Restrictions introduced for several SA local government areas.
From 4:00pm today, SA authorities are imposing new restrictions on Mt Gambier, Wattle Range Council and the Grant LGA.
These restrictions will be in place for a minimum of seven days:
These restrictions are being introduced as a result of new information coming to light about the movements of the woman who tested positive yesterday.
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Masks???
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-04/covid-live-blog-nsw-victoria-lockdown-new-cases/100510828
fsm said:
Your chance to win one of 3,100 Ultimate eGift Cards valued at $1000, being given away each day in the month of October and be entered into the Major Prize of $1,000,000 cash, drawn on November 5!
The Million Dollar Vax promotion is open to all Australian residents 18yrs or older.This initiative has been created by the Million Dollar Vax Alliance, a group of generous philanthropists and corporations to accelerate Australia’s COVID-19 vaccination program. in a safe and secure way. The faster we reach higher vaccination rates nationally, the sooner we all can safely resume our full range of community and business activity.
https://milliondollarvax.com/
Heard this on the news last night. Why should people be rewarded for waiting until now? Lots of us, including lots of the forum members, started getting vaccinated months and months ago.
buffy said:
fsm said:
Your chance to win one of 3,100 Ultimate eGift Cards valued at $1000, being given away each day in the month of October and be entered into the Major Prize of $1,000,000 cash, drawn on November 5!
The Million Dollar Vax promotion is open to all Australian residents 18yrs or older.This initiative has been created by the Million Dollar Vax Alliance, a group of generous philanthropists and corporations to accelerate Australia’s COVID-19 vaccination program. in a safe and secure way. The faster we reach higher vaccination rates nationally, the sooner we all can safely resume our full range of community and business activity.
https://milliondollarvax.com/
Heard this on the news last night. Why should people be rewarded for waiting until now? Lots of us, including lots of the forum members, started getting vaccinated months and months ago.
If you are already vaccinated you can enter.
fsm said:
buffy said:
fsm said:
Your chance to win one of 3,100 Ultimate eGift Cards valued at $1000, being given away each day in the month of October and be entered into the Major Prize of $1,000,000 cash, drawn on November 5!
The Million Dollar Vax promotion is open to all Australian residents 18yrs or older.This initiative has been created by the Million Dollar Vax Alliance, a group of generous philanthropists and corporations to accelerate Australia’s COVID-19 vaccination program. in a safe and secure way. The faster we reach higher vaccination rates nationally, the sooner we all can safely resume our full range of community and business activity.
https://milliondollarvax.com/
Heard this on the news last night. Why should people be rewarded for waiting until now? Lots of us, including lots of the forum members, started getting vaccinated months and months ago.
If you are already vaccinated you can enter.
I think I just basically don’t like the lottery aspect of it. Just spread the money out to everyone who has been vaccinated, like the proposal from the Labor Party a couple of months ago.
buffy said:
fsm said:
Your chance to win one of 3,100 Ultimate eGift Cards valued at $1000, being given away each day in the month of October and be entered into the Major Prize of $1,000,000 cash, drawn on November 5!
The Million Dollar Vax promotion is open to all Australian residents 18yrs or older.This initiative has been created by the Million Dollar Vax Alliance, a group of generous philanthropists and corporations to accelerate Australia’s COVID-19 vaccination program. in a safe and secure way. The faster we reach higher vaccination rates nationally, the sooner we all can safely resume our full range of community and business activity.
https://milliondollarvax.com/
Heard this on the news last night. Why should people be rewarded for waiting until now? Lots of us, including lots of the forum members, started getting vaccinated months and months ago.
“Can I enter if I have been fully vaccinated prior to October 1?
Yes, if you have already been double vaccinated prior to October 1, you can still enter the Million Dollar Vax Promotion and be eligible to win a Daily or the Grand Prize. If you a prize you will need to provide evidence of your COVID-19 vaccination certificate or immunisation history statement (available through your online Medicare account accessible via myGov or through the Express Plus Medicare app) and acceptable photo identification (Driver’s licence, Australian Passport, Student ID Card, Proof of Age or Photo ID Cards issued by the Australian Government) before the 13th December 2021.”
https://milliondollarvax.com/faq
buffy said:
fsm said:
buffy said:Heard this on the news last night. Why should people be rewarded for waiting until now? Lots of us, including lots of the forum members, started getting vaccinated months and months ago.
If you are already vaccinated you can enter.
I think I just basically don’t like the lottery aspect of it. Just spread the money out to everyone who has been vaccinated, like the proposal from the Labor Party a couple of months ago.
Interestingly, the is no privacy statement, yeet one is required to give lots of details.
“provide the following details:
First and last name;
Email address;
Date of Birth;
Suburb;
Postcode;
Mobile phone number”
I wonder how much they’d get for selling such a large database of linked personal details?
Michael V said:
buffy said:
fsm said:If you are already vaccinated you can enter.
I think I just basically don’t like the lottery aspect of it. Just spread the money out to everyone who has been vaccinated, like the proposal from the Labor Party a couple of months ago.
Interestingly, the is no privacy statement, yeet one is required to give lots of details.
“provide the following details:
First and last name;
Email address;
Date of Birth;
Suburb;
Postcode;
Mobile phone number”
I wonder how much they’d get for selling such a large database of linked personal details?
General conditions
34. The Promoter complies with the Australian Privacy Principles contained in the Privacy Act
1988 (Cth).
35. Entries remain the property of the Promoter. Information will be collected and used for the
purposes of conducting the Promotion (which may include disclosure as required to third
parties for the purposes of processing entries), for promotional purposes associated with the
Promotion and for the purposes of inviting participation in research into the effectiveness of
public health campaigns. Entrants may access the Promoter’s privacy policy at
https://www.summerfoundation.org.au/home/privacy-policy. If any medical information
regarding a participant is collected by the Promoter, that information will be deleted or
destroyed (as applicable) when it is no longer required for the purposes of the conduct of
the Promotion.
fsm said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:I think I just basically don’t like the lottery aspect of it. Just spread the money out to everyone who has been vaccinated, like the proposal from the Labor Party a couple of months ago.
Interestingly, the is no privacy statement, yeet one is required to give lots of details.
“provide the following details:
First and last name;
Email address;
Date of Birth;
Suburb;
Postcode;
Mobile phone number”
I wonder how much they’d get for selling such a large database of linked personal details?
General conditions
34. The Promoter complies with the Australian Privacy Principles contained in the Privacy Act
1988 (Cth).35. Entries remain the property of the Promoter. Information will be collected and used for the
purposes of conducting the Promotion (which may include disclosure as required to third
parties for the purposes of processing entries), for promotional purposes associated with the
Promotion and for the purposes of inviting participation in research into the effectiveness of
public health campaigns. Entrants may access the Promoter’s privacy policy at
https://www.summerfoundation.org.au/home/privacy-policy. If any medical information
regarding a participant is collected by the Promoter, that information will be deleted or
destroyed (as applicable) when it is no longer required for the purposes of the conduct of
the Promotion.
How did you get to that?
Michael V said:
fsm said:
Michael V said:Interestingly, the is no privacy statement, yeet one is required to give lots of details.
“provide the following details:
First and last name;
Email address;
Date of Birth;
Suburb;
Postcode;
Mobile phone number”
I wonder how much they’d get for selling such a large database of linked personal details?
General conditions
34. The Promoter complies with the Australian Privacy Principles contained in the Privacy Act
1988 (Cth).35. Entries remain the property of the Promoter. Information will be collected and used for the
purposes of conducting the Promotion (which may include disclosure as required to third
parties for the purposes of processing entries), for promotional purposes associated with the
Promotion and for the purposes of inviting participation in research into the effectiveness of
public health campaigns. Entrants may access the Promoter’s privacy policy at
https://www.summerfoundation.org.au/home/privacy-policy. If any medical information
regarding a participant is collected by the Promoter, that information will be deleted or
destroyed (as applicable) when it is no longer required for the purposes of the conduct of
the Promotion.
How did you get to that?
Bottom of the page -> Terms And Conditions
Michael V said:
fsm said:
Michael V said:Interestingly, the is no privacy statement, yeet one is required to give lots of details.
“provide the following details:
First and last name;
Email address;
Date of Birth;
Suburb;
Postcode;
Mobile phone number”
I wonder how much they’d get for selling such a large database of linked personal details?
General conditions
34. The Promoter complies with the Australian Privacy Principles contained in the Privacy Act
1988 (Cth).35. Entries remain the property of the Promoter. Information will be collected and used for the
purposes of conducting the Promotion (which may include disclosure as required to third
parties for the purposes of processing entries), for promotional purposes associated with the
Promotion and for the purposes of inviting participation in research into the effectiveness of
public health campaigns. Entrants may access the Promoter’s privacy policy at
https://www.summerfoundation.org.au/home/privacy-policy. If any medical information
regarding a participant is collected by the Promoter, that information will be deleted or
destroyed (as applicable) when it is no longer required for the purposes of the conduct of
the Promotion.
How did you get to that?
Part of BIG COMPETITION
fsm said:
Michael V said:
fsm said:General conditions
34. The Promoter complies with the Australian Privacy Principles contained in the Privacy Act
1988 (Cth).35. Entries remain the property of the Promoter. Information will be collected and used for the
purposes of conducting the Promotion (which may include disclosure as required to third
parties for the purposes of processing entries), for promotional purposes associated with the
Promotion and for the purposes of inviting participation in research into the effectiveness of
public health campaigns. Entrants may access the Promoter’s privacy policy at
https://www.summerfoundation.org.au/home/privacy-policy. If any medical information
regarding a participant is collected by the Promoter, that information will be deleted or
destroyed (as applicable) when it is no longer required for the purposes of the conduct of
the Promotion.
How did you get to that?
Bottom of the page -> Terms And Conditions
Ta. Stoopid me didn’t look down that far…
The T&C link at the top of the page only links to the FAQ.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
so basically there’s faecal detection in Casterton but no actual positive personal testssounds like some weird shit if you’ll pardon
someone’s hiding something
is there?
I was just idly speculating.
It doesn’t look like there has been any testing, at least up to 30 Sept. There is a wastewater treatment plant just out of Casterton.
https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/wastewater-testing#regional-results-for-last-28-days-by-sampling-site-and-suburbs-as-of-30-september-2021
The woman may have gone to Melbourne.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-04/new-covid-19-restrictions-in-south-australia-linked-to-case/100512636
Michael V said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:is there?
I was just idly speculating.
It doesn’t look like there has been any testing, at least up to 30 Sept. There is a wastewater treatment plant just out of Casterton.
https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/wastewater-testing#regional-results-for-last-28-days-by-sampling-site-and-suburbs-as-of-30-september-2021
The woman may have gone to Melbourne.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-04/new-covid-19-restrictions-in-south-australia-linked-to-case/100512636
Hmm…
https://www.thecut.com/2021/09/hospital-pediatrician-anti-vax-parents-covid.html
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.thecut.com/2021/09/hospital-pediatrician-anti-vax-parents-covid.html
I asked a Navy doctor once about patients refusing things, like, what if i got religion and said no blood transfusions, no vaccines for me.
‘Son’, he said, ‘this is the Navy. We own your arse, and everything that circulates within it. You’ll get whatever i say you’ll get”.
Jacinda Ardern gives up on COVID-zero
https://www.theage.com.au/world/oceania/jacinda-ardern-gives-up-on-covid-zero-20211004-p58×1a.html
Witty Rejoinder said:
Jacinda Ardern gives up on COVID-zerohttps://www.theage.com.au/world/oceania/jacinda-ardern-gives-up-on-covid-zero-20211004-p58×1a.html
Thought science would be the first to post and froth at the mouth about that one.
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Jacinda Ardern gives up on COVID-zerohttps://www.theage.com.au/world/oceania/jacinda-ardern-gives-up-on-covid-zero-20211004-p58×1a.html
Thought science would be the first to post and froth at the mouth about that one.
Probably dropped to the floor in a fit of thrashing before he could post.
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Jacinda Ardern gives up on COVID-zerohttps://www.theage.com.au/world/oceania/jacinda-ardern-gives-up-on-covid-zero-20211004-p58×1a.html
Thought science would be the first to post and froth at the mouth about that one.
But it’s a quote from The Age. Not his style.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Jacinda Ardern gives up on COVID-zerohttps://www.theage.com.au/world/oceania/jacinda-ardern-gives-up-on-covid-zero-20211004-p58×1a.html
Scomo probably had a little word in he shell like that she needs to get with the programme.
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Jacinda Ardern gives up on COVID-zero
https://www.theage.com.au/world/oceania/jacinda-ardern-gives-up-on-covid-zero-20211004-p58×1a.html
Thought science would be the first to post and froth at the mouth about that one.
Probably dropped to the floor in a fit of thrashing before he could post.
Oh why, is it cool to make fun of pre-existing conditions these centuries ¿ Or if you mean laughter at the joke strategy of Living With The Virus® then sure.
But yeah we apologise, got those illegal gatherings to attend, didn’t have time to keep up with politics today though we remind y’all that we don’t live in and certainly don’t run NZ so Sweden and Iran can do whatever they like, pretty sure most jokers did insist they were never eliminating but maximally suppressing whatever that means.
We’ll let the media continue with their spin, more illegal rinse cycles to manage.
dv said:
Smallpox and rinderpest are two infectious diseases now extinct in the wild.
Guinea worm is now restricted to 8 countries in Africa. Polio is only found in Afghanistan and Pakistan, having been eliminated from Nigeria last year.
Lame, would have been better for the economy to live with them we think.
Bad News, Vaccines Might Actually Finally Work (For Now) (In Combination With Nonpharmaceutical Interventions)
A graph showing the rate of Israelis per 100,000 citizens aged 60-plus who are seriously ill with COVID-19. The vertical axis is the number of people per 100,000, and the horizontal axis shows the date. The top line on the graph, in light blue, denotes unvaccinated people, the next line (light green) denotes people who received two shots, and the bottom line (dark green) denotes the triple-vaccinated.
Totalitarian Germany
Anyway as you’ve suggested, we’re in throes of ecstasy that this endgame is approaching.
SCIENCE said:
Anyway as you’ve suggested, we’re in throes of ecstasy that this endgame is approaching.
Agree.
Still no exposure sites listed for Casterton. Something very odd about the Mount Gambier case who was “in Casterton”…
Victoria: 1,763 new local cases (the highest daily case number increase recorded in Australia). 4 deaths.
:(
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-05/victoria-records-new-covid-cases-vaccine-progress/100513784
SCIENCE said:
Anyway as you’ve suggested, we’re in throes of ecstasy that this endgame is approaching.
yeah you’d need ignore vaccination being used as a weapon (i’ll call it) to let covid go wild, immunized people like a thought virus, offered impunity, lends to casual terrorism is my opinion
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Anyway as you’ve suggested, we’re in throes of ecstasy that this endgame is approaching.
yeah you’d need ignore vaccination being used as a weapon (i’ll call it) to let covid go wild, immunized people like a thought virus, offered impunity, lends to casual terrorism is my opinion
If all farmers believed that, they wouldn’t use fungicides herbicides or pesticides.
roughbarked said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Anyway as you’ve suggested, we’re in throes of ecstasy that this endgame is approaching.
yeah you’d need ignore vaccination being used as a weapon (i’ll call it) to let covid go wild, immunized people like a thought virus, offered impunity, lends to casual terrorism is my opinion
If all farmers believed that, they wouldn’t use fungicides herbicides or pesticides.
no, they’d know stuff like not missing any sheep in any mob when treating for lice (for example), probably a better analogy,
transition said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:yeah you’d need ignore vaccination being used as a weapon (i’ll call it) to let covid go wild, immunized people like a thought virus, offered impunity, lends to casual terrorism is my opinion
If all farmers believed that, they wouldn’t use fungicides herbicides or pesticides.
no, they’d know stuff like not missing any sheep in any mob when treating for lice (for example), probably a better analogy,
Fair. ;)
transition said:
…lends to casual terrorism is my opinion
It’s so difficult to get into full-time terrorism these days.
Not that there was ever any doubt about it Dan is Australia’s Covid King.
Looks like FaceBork is up and running for ABC Brisbane. I could watch the press conference, if I so desired. I think I’ll wait for the ABC blog to catch up. and summarise…
https://www.facebook.com/watch/abcinbrisbane/
Michael V said:
Looks like FaceBork is up and running for ABC Brisbane. I could watch the press conference, if I so desired. I think I’ll wait for the ABC blog to catch up. and summarise…https://www.facebook.com/watch/abcinbrisbane/
to catch up, reinterpret and summarise… fixed.
buffy said:
Still no exposure sites listed for Casterton. Something very odd about the Mount Gambier case who was “in Casterton”…
They think the woman was lying about Casterton, well that’s what I heard on the wireless.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Still no exposure sites listed for Casterton. Something very odd about the Mount Gambier case who was “in Casterton”…They think the woman was lying about Casterton, well that’s what I heard on the wireless.
And for this a lot of people have been inconvenienced by being cut off from going to Mount Gambier because the border bubble was reduced to 30km.
NSW records 608 new COVID-19 cases, seven deaths
Peak Warming Man said:
Not that there was ever any doubt about it Dan is Australia’s Covid King.
Crooked Gladys may have scuttled off in shame, but that’s not going to spare her the title of Australia’s worst Covid premier, as far as the history books are concerned.
Queensland records two community cases of COVID-19.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Not that there was ever any doubt about it Dan is Australia’s Covid King.
Crooked Gladys may have scuttled off in shame, but that’s not going to spare her the title of Australia’s worst Covid premier, as far as the history books are concerned.
She could conceivably still pop up in Federal politics, and be worse at something there, so as to eclipse her COVID infamy.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Not that there was ever any doubt about it Dan is Australia’s Covid King.
Crooked Gladys may have scuttled off in shame, but that’s not going to spare her the title of Australia’s worst Covid premier, as far as the history books are concerned.
I’ll stand with Dan.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Not that there was ever any doubt about it Dan is Australia’s Covid King.
Crooked Gladys may have scuttled off in shame, but that’s not going to spare her the title of Australia’s worst Covid premier, as far as the history books are concerned.
She could conceivably still pop up in Federal politics, and be worse at something there, so as to eclipse her COVID infamy.
I’ll admit to being completely bewildered by her popularity. Not just useless and corrupt but pretty much bereft of any personal appeal.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:Crooked Gladys may have scuttled off in shame, but that’s not going to spare her the title of Australia’s worst Covid premier, as far as the history books are concerned.
She could conceivably still pop up in Federal politics, and be worse at something there, so as to eclipse her COVID infamy.
I’ll admit to being completely bewildered by her popularity. Not just useless and corrupt but pretty much bereft of any personal appeal.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:Crooked Gladys may have scuttled off in shame, but that’s not going to spare her the title of Australia’s worst Covid premier, as far as the history books are concerned.
She could conceivably still pop up in Federal politics, and be worse at something there, so as to eclipse her COVID infamy.
I’ll admit to being completely bewildered by her popularity. Not just useless and corrupt but pretty much bereft of any personal appeal.
^
Reporting Genius
Why do we need treatments, when we’ve got vaccines?
because federal election
Almost 80 per cent of Australians over 16 have now received a first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. And while much of the population will be protected through vaccination, Dr Senanayake said it is unavoidable that some are still going to get sick and need treatment.
So let’s not mention the more effective measures, like proper (N95+) masking.
“When we open up, we will likely see a surge in cases — hopefully not enough to overwhelm the hospital system,” he said.
The hospital system is already overwhelmed, so this spin is absolute fucking bullshit.
Corrupt New South Wuhan Still Taking Money From Productive States
Magistrate Stephen Sharratt said he would not jail Reid due to the Supreme Court often overturning similar cases, and would instead impose another fine. “She exposed people at risk of infection by going to an op-shop, by going to the bar, by going to the beach, knowing she should be self isolating,” he said. “She put Broome people at risk for no other reason than her own vanity.”
He fined Reid $6,000, bringing her total fines up to $8,500, but said because she lived in NSW she may avoid the penalty.
Cult Recruitment And Electoral Manipulation Engine Success
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-05/misinformation-impacting-women-and-girls/100513384
A new report finds women and girls are being impacted by misinformation and disinformation online
One-quarter of those surveyed said misinformation made them question whether they should get vaccinated
Almost one in five disengaged with politics and current affairs as a result
Now That Young Has Said Even Old Dying Is Not Good Enough, But We’re Going To Let It Rip™, Time To Switch Her For Someone Else
SCIENCE said:
Corrupt New South Wuhan Still Taking Money From Productive StatesMagistrate Stephen Sharratt said he would not jail Reid due to the Supreme Court often overturning similar cases, and would instead impose another fine. “She exposed people at risk of infection by going to an op-shop, by going to the bar, by going to the beach, knowing she should be self isolating,” he said. “She put Broome people at risk for no other reason than her own vanity.”
He fined Reid $6,000, bringing her total fines up to $8,500, but said because she lived in NSW she may avoid the penalty.
Is there any evidence anywhere that these thousands of health orders/Covid breach fines are actually being paid?
Woodie said:
SCIENCE said:
Corrupt New South Wuhan Still Taking Money From Productive StatesMagistrate Stephen Sharratt said he would not jail Reid due to the Supreme Court often overturning similar cases, and would instead impose another fine. “She exposed people at risk of infection by going to an op-shop, by going to the bar, by going to the beach, knowing she should be self isolating,” he said. “She put Broome people at risk for no other reason than her own vanity.”
He fined Reid $6,000, bringing her total fines up to $8,500, but said because she lived in NSW she may avoid the penalty.
Is there any evidence anywhere that these thousands of health orders/Covid breach fines are actually being paid?
In WA at least the court gives you paperwork with the fine amount on it.
You are then meant to go to the registry and work out at time to pay arrangement or pay it in full.
Some of them you can do time in jail or a work development order (community work) to pay it off
You can get your drivers license suspended if you don’t pay them
But yeah I don’t think they have too much time to chase them
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-05/mount-gambier-covid-scare/100513990
Still fuzzy around the details.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-05/covid-vaccination-rate-reaches-80-per-cent-for-16-plus/100514500
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-05/mount-gambier-covid-scare/100513990Still fuzzy around the details.
Maybe she is covering something up.
Woodie said:
SCIENCE said:
Corrupt New South Wuhan Still Taking Money From Productive StatesMagistrate Stephen Sharratt said he would not jail Reid due to the Supreme Court often overturning similar cases, and would instead impose another fine. “She exposed people at risk of infection by going to an op-shop, by going to the bar, by going to the beach, knowing she should be self isolating,” he said. “She put Broome people at risk for no other reason than her own vanity.”
He fined Reid $6,000, bringing her total fines up to $8,500, but said because she lived in NSW she may avoid the penalty.
Is there any evidence anywhere that these thousands of health orders/Covid breach fines are actually being paid?
There is a lot of evidence that they aren’t.
aha they have inspired a new name for the COVID-19 worldwide
panderemic
Spending on PCR tests in China soared months before first COVID-19 cases revealed: report
https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/spending-on-pcr-tests-in-china-soared-months-before-covid-19-revealed-20211005-p58×89.html
Witty Rejoinder said:
Spending on PCR tests in China soared months before first COVID-19 cases revealed: reporthttps://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/spending-on-pcr-tests-in-china-soared-months-before-covid-19-revealed-20211005-p58×89.html
To be fair, PCR tests are used for a wide variety of viral pathogens and cancers.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Spending on PCR tests in China soared months before first COVID-19 cases revealed: reporthttps://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/spending-on-pcr-tests-in-china-soared-months-before-covid-19-revealed-20211005-p58×89.html
Oh, and I got a 404 error when trying to get to that page.
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Spending on PCR tests in China soared months before first COVID-19 cases revealed: reporthttps://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/spending-on-pcr-tests-in-china-soared-months-before-covid-19-revealed-20211005-p58×89.html
Oh, and I got a 404 error when trying to get to that page.
same
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Spending on PCR tests in China soared months before first COVID-19 cases revealed: reporthttps://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/spending-on-pcr-tests-in-china-soared-months-before-covid-19-revealed-20211005-p58×89.html
Oh, and I got a 404 error when trying to get to that page.
That rascal multiplication symbol substitution strikes again!
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Spending on PCR tests in China soared months before first COVID-19 cases revealed: reporthttps://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/spending-on-pcr-tests-in-china-soared-months-before-covid-19-revealed-20211005-p58×89.html
Oh, and I got a 404 error when trying to get to that page.
That rascal multiplication symbol substitution strikes again!
At least we got to experience the Guru Meditation error.
Dark Orange said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Spending on PCR tests in China soared months before first COVID-19 cases revealed: report
Oh, and I got a 404 error when trying to get to that page.
That rascal multiplication symbol substitution strikes again!
At least we got to experience the Guru Meditation error.
imagine if people paid attention and read articles and used the "https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/spending-on-pcr-tests-in-china-soared-months-before-covid-19-revealed-20211005-p58x89.html":https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/spending-on-pcr-tests-in-china-soared-months-before-covid-19-revealed-20211005-p58x89.html motif on their links to keep them working
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Wait A Moment … So SARS Wasn’t Just A Mild Head Cold After All ¿ … And Bat Coronaviruses Seem To Be Closer To Other Bat Coronaviruses Than Human Ones ¿
Wow What A Surprise
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Spending on PCR tests in China soared months before first COVID-19 cases revealed: reporthttps://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/spending-on-pcr-tests-in-china-soared-months-before-covid-19-revealed-20211005-p58×89.html
To be fair, PCR tests are used for a wide variety of viral pathogens and cancers.
Nah, Conspiracy Is The Only Explanation
oh wait
The report also states that the increase in spending was not seen in traditionally high research spending months.
Several medical experts, however, said the Internet 2.0 report wasn’t enough information to draw such conclusions. For one thing, PCR testing, which has been in broad use for several decades, has been growing in popularity as it has become a standard method to test for pathogens, according to one of the experts. In addition, PCR equipment is widely used in laboratories to test for many other pathogens besides the virus that causes COVID-19, including in animals, and is commonly found in modern hospitals and labs. China was also dealing with an outbreak of African swine fever across the country in 2019.
David Robinson, Internet 2.0’s co-chief executive officer and the lead researcher on the paper, said in an interview that the timing of some of the contracts, and the agencies behind the purchases, lend credence to the idea that officials in Hubei province were investigating a new human disease throughout the latter half of 2019. However, he said his firm’s findings weren’t a smoking gun.
“investigating” “new” oh c’m‘on, we know it was “inventing” and “weaponised”
LOL
suspicious
SCIENCE said:
Dark Orange said:Witty Rejoinder said:
That rascal multiplication symbol substitution strikes again!
At least we got to experience the Guru Meditation error.
imagine if people paid attention and read articles and used the "https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/spending-on-pcr-tests-in-china-soared-months-before-covid-19-revealed-20211005-p58x89.html":https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/spending-on-pcr-tests-in-china-soared-months-before-covid-19-revealed-20211005-p58x89.html motif on their links to keep them working
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Covid as bio-weapon isn’t out of the realm of possibility
Make it dangerous but not deadly enough to wipe out billions of people (assuming that can be done and its doesn’t mutant and go horrible wrong) and sacrifice a 10’s or 100’s of thousands of your own people.
It disrupts economies and health services
To what end ?, perhaps just to see if you can.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Spending on PCR tests in China soared months before first COVID-19 cases revealed: reporthttps://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/spending-on-pcr-tests-in-china-soared-months-before-covid-19-revealed-20211005-p58×89.html
Oh, and I got a 404 error when trying to get to that page.
That rascal multiplication symbol substitution strikes again!
Cheers and thanks.
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Spending on PCR tests in China soared months before first COVID-19 cases revealed: reporthttps://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/spending-on-pcr-tests-in-china-soared-months-before-covid-19-revealed-20211005-p58×89.html
To be fair, PCR tests are used for a wide variety of viral pathogens and cancers.
The article makes that point, too.
SCIENCE said:
LOL
suspicious
Have we got some comparable figures for, say, Australia? The world has been increasing medical testing a lot in the last 8 to 10 years anyway.
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
Dark Orange said:At least we got to experience the Guru Meditation error.
imagine if people paid attention and read articles and used the "https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/spending-on-pcr-tests-in-china-soared-months-before-covid-19-revealed-20211005-p58x89.html":https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/spending-on-pcr-tests-in-china-soared-months-before-covid-19-revealed-20211005-p58x89.html motif on their links to keep them working
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"Link name":http://example.com/
Covid as bio-weapon isn’t out of the realm of possibility
Make it dangerous but not deadly enough to wipe out billions of people (assuming that can be done and its doesn’t mutant and go horrible wrong) and sacrifice a 10’s or 100’s of thousands of your own people.
It disrupts economies and health services
To what end ?, perhaps just to see if you can.
Right but isn’t that why West Taiwanare flying nuclear bombers over the Taiwanese mainland, because in their wet market run with the bioweapon, the rest of the world just went What The Fuck and decided sure let’s just get killed by CHINA Flu¡
sounds like coping
State and territory health ministers are asking for “crisis funding” for hospitals as Australia prepares to ease COVID-19 restrictions.
SCIENCE said:
sounds like copingState and territory health ministers are asking for “crisis funding” for hospitals as Australia prepares to ease COVID-19 restrictions.
had a read where that came from
might add, it’s not really a pandemic if you release a virus, not by my definition, something worse
Here in WA. Marky McG is mandating vaccines for FIFOs. Of course some people, who know a lot about the dangers of vaccinations and have done ALL THE RESEARCH!!! Are getting a bit upset
Arts said:
Here in WA. Marky McG is mandating vaccines for FIFOs. Of course some people, who know a lot about the dangers of vaccinations and have done ALL THE RESEARCH!!! Are getting a bit upset
I have spent a lot of time with “Cashed Up Bogans” and this does not surprise me.
Dark Orange said:
Arts said:
Here in WA. Marky McG is mandating vaccines for FIFOs. Of course some people, who know a lot about the dangers of vaccinations and have done ALL THE RESEARCH!!! Are getting a bit upset
I have spent a lot of time with “Cashed Up Bogans” and this does not surprise me.
I reckon most of them will just get over it and have the jab to keep the money tap on.
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
sounds like copingState and territory health ministers are asking for “crisis funding” for hospitals as Australia prepares to ease COVID-19 restrictions.
had a read where that came from
might add, it’s not really a pandemic if you release a virus, not by my definition, something worse
hence panderemic
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
sounds like copingState and territory health ministers are asking for “crisis funding” for hospitals as Australia prepares to ease COVID-19 restrictions.
had a read where that came from
might add, it’s not really a pandemic if you release a virus, not by my definition, something worse
rubbish post. conspiracy.
Bogsnorkler said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
sounds like copingState and territory health ministers are asking for “crisis funding” for hospitals as Australia prepares to ease COVID-19 restrictions.
had a read where that came from
might add, it’s not really a pandemic if you release a virus, not by my definition, something worse
rubbish post. conspiracy.
We thought he meant the Let It Rip™crowd, which is overt collaboration to harm, not conspiracy.
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:
transition said:had a read where that came from
might add, it’s not really a pandemic if you release a virus, not by my definition, something worse
rubbish post. conspiracy.
We thought he meant the Let It Rip™crowd, which is overt collaboration to harm, not conspiracy.
he should say that then.
Dark Orange said:
Arts said:
Here in WA. Marky McG is mandating vaccines for FIFOs. Of course some people, who know a lot about the dangers of vaccinations and have done ALL THE RESEARCH!!! Are getting a bit upset
I have spent a lot of time with “Cashed Up Bogans” and this does not surprise me.
:)
Me too.
:)
Bogsnorkler said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
sounds like copingState and territory health ministers are asking for “crisis funding” for hospitals as Australia prepares to ease COVID-19 restrictions.
had a read where that came from
might add, it’s not really a pandemic if you release a virus, not by my definition, something worse
rubbish post. conspiracy.
yawn as you were
transition said:
Bogsnorkler said:
transition said:had a read where that came from
might add, it’s not really a pandemic if you release a virus, not by my definition, something worse
rubbish post. conspiracy.
yawn as you were
LOL.
Arts said:
Here in WA. Marky McG is mandating vaccines for FIFOs. Of course some people, who know a lot about the dangers of vaccinations and have done ALL THE RESEARCH!!! Are getting a bit upset
I mean a lot of the sites have gone that way anyway
dv said:
Arts said:
Here in WA. Marky McG is mandating vaccines for FIFOs. Of course some people, who know a lot about the dangers of vaccinations and have done ALL THE RESEARCH!!! Are getting a bit upset
I mean a lot of the sites have gone that way anyway
Of course, but they cant make it mandatory… however this is a health directive, which I believe has an end date, so who knows what will happen then… the antidote probably
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-06/victorian-vaccination-mandate-worker-opposed/100515442
Ebony, 26, said she was “not an anti-vaxxer” but she did not agree with the introduction of a mandate. She said she had read about the Novavax vaccine online — which is currently not available in Australia — and she would prefer to get that vaccine because she is worried about suffering negative effects from the Pfizer, Moderna or AstraZeneca vaccines. Medical experts have explained why those COVID-19 vaccines are considered very safe and effective.
“I was sitting on the fence, I was sort of contemplating it,” she said.
“Then, once this came into play, it made me very angry.
“That is when I started doing research.”
The End.
Oh wait.
“I won’t do this job forever, but I’m going to be inside this body forever,” she said.
See, They Didn’t Need To Vaccinate Teenagers, Natural Infection Gets To Flock Immunity Just As Promised 20 Months Ago
SCIENCE said:
See, They Didn’t Need To Vaccinate Teenagers, Natural Infection Gets To Flock Immunity Just As Promised 20 Months Ago
must be an election year
so what they’re saying is, if all the action had been shifted 10, or 9, or 8, or 7, or even any more than 0 (remember how 0 is a dirty number these days) days earlier, the success would have been phenomenal, NSWuhan wouldn’t have exported bioterror to VIC or NZ, they themselves wouldn’t be fucked in the health system, sure they wouldn’t have had as much of a vaccination rates scare but
damn
you’re right, ¿ what can we learn from them ?
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-06/victorian-vaccination-mandate-worker-opposed/100515442Ebony, 26, said she was “not an anti-vaxxer” but she did not agree with the introduction of a mandate. She said she had read about the Novavax vaccine online — which is currently not available in Australia — and she would prefer to get that vaccine because she is worried about suffering negative effects from the Pfizer, Moderna or AstraZeneca vaccines. Medical experts have explained why those COVID-19 vaccines are considered very safe and effective.
“I was sitting on the fence, I was sort of contemplating it,” she said.
“Then, once this came into play, it made me very angry.
“That is when I started doing research.”
The End.
Oh wait.
“I won’t do this job forever, but I’m going to be inside this body forever,” she said.
There’s that use of “research” again. “Read some stuff.”
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-06/victorian-vaccination-mandate-worker-opposed/100515442Ebony, 26, said she was “not an anti-vaxxer” but she did not agree with the introduction of a mandate. She said she had read about the Novavax vaccine online — which is currently not available in Australia — and she would prefer to get that vaccine because she is worried about suffering negative effects from the Pfizer, Moderna or AstraZeneca vaccines. Medical experts have explained why those COVID-19 vaccines are considered very safe and effective.
“I was sitting on the fence, I was sort of contemplating it,” she said.
“Then, once this came into play, it made me very angry.
“That is when I started doing research.”
The End.
Oh wait.
“I won’t do this job forever, but I’m going to be inside this body forever,” she said.
There’s that use of “research” again. “Read some stuff.”
It probably matters which stuff you read and if you know how to find the written up real research.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-06/victorian-vaccination-mandate-worker-opposed/100515442Ebony, 26, said she was “not an anti-vaxxer” but she did not agree with the introduction of a mandate. She said she had read about the Novavax vaccine online — which is currently not available in Australia — and she would prefer to get that vaccine because she is worried about suffering negative effects from the Pfizer, Moderna or AstraZeneca vaccines. Medical experts have explained why those COVID-19 vaccines are considered very safe and effective.
“I was sitting on the fence, I was sort of contemplating it,” she said.
“Then, once this came into play, it made me very angry.
“That is when I started doing research.”
The End.
Oh wait.
“I won’t do this job forever, but I’m going to be inside this body forever,” she said.
There’s that use of “research” again. “Read some stuff.”
Isn’t it odd how they’re always waiting for the other vaccine?
‘I’m waiting for the Pfizer, becasue it’s safer’
then
‘I’m waiting for the Moderna, because it’s safer’
now
‘I’m waiting for the Novovax, because it’s safer’
No, you’re waiting because you’re a scared, afraid of someone poking you with something sharp. HTFU and get vaccinated, you chicken-shit.
As for ‘being in this body forever’; no, you won’t. Something is going to kill you one day. Maybe it’ll be old age, if you’re lucky, butget usedto the idea.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-06/victorian-vaccination-mandate-worker-opposed/100515442Ebony, 26, said she was “not an anti-vaxxer” but she did not agree with the introduction of a mandate. She said she had read about the Novavax vaccine online — which is currently not available in Australia — and she would prefer to get that vaccine because she is worried about suffering negative effects from the Pfizer, Moderna or AstraZeneca vaccines. Medical experts have explained why those COVID-19 vaccines are considered very safe and effective.
“I was sitting on the fence, I was sort of contemplating it,” she said.
“Then, once this came into play, it made me very angry.
“That is when I started doing research.”
The End.
Oh wait.
“I won’t do this job forever, but I’m going to be inside this body forever,” she said.
There’s that use of “research” again. “Read some stuff.”
It probably matters which stuff you read and if you know how to find the written up real research.
Sure.
But it’s still not research. It’s a review.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-06/victorian-vaccination-mandate-worker-opposed/100515442Ebony, 26, said she was “not an anti-vaxxer” but she did not agree with the introduction of a mandate. She said she had read about the Novavax vaccine online — which is currently not available in Australia — and she would prefer to get that vaccine because she is worried about suffering negative effects from the Pfizer, Moderna or AstraZeneca vaccines. Medical experts have explained why those COVID-19 vaccines are considered very safe and effective.
“I was sitting on the fence, I was sort of contemplating it,” she said.
“Then, once this came into play, it made me very angry.
“That is when I started doing research.”
The End.
Oh wait.
“I won’t do this job forever, but I’m going to be inside this body forever,” she said.
There’s that use of “research” again. “Read some stuff.”
Isn’t it odd how they’re always waiting for the other vaccine?
‘I’m waiting for the Pfizer, becasue it’s safer’
then
‘I’m waiting for the Moderna, because it’s safer’
now
‘I’m waiting for the Novovax, because it’s safer’
No, you’re waiting because you’re a scared, afraid of someone poking you with something sharp. HTFU and get vaccinated, you chicken-shit.
As for ‘being in this body forever’; no, you won’t. Something is going to kill you one day. Maybe it’ll be old age, if you’re lucky, butget usedto the idea.
:)
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:
There’s that use of “research” again. “Read some stuff.”
It probably matters which stuff you read and if you know how to find the written up real research.
Sure.
But it’s still not research. It’s a review.
Isn’t it odd how they’re always waiting for the other vaccine?
‘I’m waiting for the Pfizer, becasue it’s safer’
then
‘I’m waiting for the Moderna, because it’s safer’
now
‘I’m waiting for the Novovax, because it’s safer’
No, you’re waiting because you’re a scared, afraid of someone poking you with something sharp. HTFU and get vaccinated, you chicken-shit.
As for ‘being in this body forever’; no, you won’t. Something is going to kill you one day. Maybe it’ll be old age, if you’re lucky, butget usedto the idea.
:)
^ ^^ ^^^ etc
but maybe we’re being unfair, and they’re doing a “metaanalysis”, which to real researchers is research-upon-review, but in this instance is short for metaphysical analysis
If we take in our hand any volume [book]; of divinity or school metaphysics, for instance; let us ask, Does it contain any abstract reasoning concerning quantity or number? No. Does it contain any experimental reasoning concerning matter of fact and existence? No. Commit it then to the flames: for it can contain nothing but sophistry and illusion.
— some D. H.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:There’s that use of “research” again. “Read some stuff.”
It probably matters which stuff you read and if you know how to find the written up real research.
Sure.
But it’s still not research. It’s a review.
Well, yes, it actually is within the definition of “research”.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/research
buffy said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:It probably matters which stuff you read and if you know how to find the written up real research.
Sure.
But it’s still not research. It’s a review.
Well, yes, it actually is within the definition of “research”.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/research
There you doing your own research again.
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:Sure.
But it’s still not research. It’s a review.
Well, yes, it actually is within the definition of “research”.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/research
There you doing your own research again.
+are
Witty Rejoinder said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:Well, yes, it actually is within the definition of “research”.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/research
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/research
There you doing your own research again.
+are
shrug there’s colloquial use and there’s careful use to try to make specific distinctions but hey the only difficulty is confusing them right
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-06/suspicious-car-fire-mount-gambier/100516822
imagine if this were done by anti health measures protesters, we’d be celebrating the defence of human rights all over the media
imagine if this were a Koala Lives Matter protest, there wouldn’t have been any reported cases from it at all, ever
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:captain_spalding said:
Isn’t it odd how they’re always waiting for the other vaccine?
‘I’m waiting for the Pfizer, becasue it’s safer’
then
‘I’m waiting for the Moderna, because it’s safer’
now
‘I’m waiting for the Novovax, because it’s safer’
No, you’re waiting because you’re a scared, afraid of someone poking you with something sharp. HTFU and get vaccinated, you chicken-shit.
As for ‘being in this body forever’; no, you won’t. Something is going to kill you one day. Maybe it’ll be old age, if you’re lucky, butget usedto the idea.
:)
^ ^^ ^^^ etc
but maybe we’re being unfair, and they’re doing a “metaanalysis”, which to real researchers is research-upon-review, but in this instance is short for metaphysical analysis
If we take in our hand any volume [book]; of divinity or school metaphysics, for instance; let us ask, Does it contain any abstract reasoning concerning quantity or number? No. Does it contain any experimental reasoning concerning matter of fact and existence? No. Commit it then to the flames: for it can contain nothing but sophistry and illusion.
— some D. H.
I hope you’re not lending to generalizing all metaphysics as bad there, master science
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said::)
^ ^^ ^^^ etc
but maybe we’re being unfair, and they’re doing a “metaanalysis”, which to real researchers is research-upon-review, but in this instance is short for metaphysical analysis
If we take in our hand any volume [book]; of divinity or school metaphysics, for instance; let us ask, Does it contain any abstract reasoning concerning quantity or number? No. Does it contain any experimental reasoning concerning matter of fact and existence? No. Commit it then to the flames: for it can contain nothing but sophistry and illusion.
— some D. H.
I hope you’re not lending to generalizing all metaphysics as bad there, master science
Having looked up the definition of that word, I suppose it would depend on which meaning of the word was being used.
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-06/suspicious-car-fire-mount-gambier/100516822imagine if this were done by anti health measures protesters, we’d be celebrating the defence of human rights all over the media
Despite what the woman may or may not have done (and we don’t know that – everything is just rumour), this is an appalling act.
Unconscionable.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-06/suspicious-car-fire-mount-gambier/100516822imagine if this were done by anti health measures protesters, we’d be celebrating the defence of human rights all over the media
Despite what the woman may or may not have done (and we don’t know that – everything is just rumour), this is an appalling act.
Unconscionable.
I think she’s a bit suss and the car burning my be something to do with the circles she moves in.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-06/suspicious-car-fire-mount-gambier/100516822
imagine if this were done by anti health measures protesters, we’d be celebrating the defence of human rights all over the media
Despite what the woman may or may not have done (and we don’t know that – everything is just rumour), this is an appalling act.
Unconscionable.
Yes, we should point out that our complaining about media celebration of Gutless Corruption is not in any way an expression of support for Labor corruption.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-06/suspicious-car-fire-mount-gambier/100516822
imagine if this were done by anti health measures protesters, we’d be celebrating the defence of human rights all over the media
Despite what the woman may or may not have done (and we don’t know that – everything is just rumour), this is an appalling act.
Unconscionable.
I think she’s a bit suss and the car burning my be something to do with the circles she moves in.
nota bene we also do not support destruction of evidence in self directed false flag operations
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:^ ^^ ^^^ etc
but maybe we’re being unfair, and they’re doing a “metaanalysis”, which to real researchers is research-upon-review, but in this instance is short for metaphysical analysis
If we take in our hand any volume [book]; of divinity or school metaphysics, for instance; let us ask, Does it contain any abstract reasoning concerning quantity or number? No. Does it contain any experimental reasoning concerning matter of fact and existence? No. Commit it then to the flames: for it can contain nothing but sophistry and illusion.
— some D. H.
I hope you’re not lending to generalizing all metaphysics as bad there, master science
Having looked up the definition of that word, I suppose it would depend on which meaning of the word was being used.
yeah yeah, that wouldn’t yield much would it, wouldn’t give much of an idea of what it is before you get your definition from the dictionary, social forces or culture define it for you, absorb what it ought be, bit like removing your own brain to study mind
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:I hope you’re not lending to generalizing all metaphysics as bad there, master science
Having looked up the definition of that word, I suppose it would depend on which meaning of the word was being used.
yeah yeah, that wouldn’t yield much would it, wouldn’t give much of an idea of what it is before you get your definition from the dictionary, social forces or culture define it for you, absorb what it ought be, bit like removing your own brain to study mind
What is a bit like removing your own brain to study mind?
QLD: Zero new cases.
NSW: 594 new cases, 10 deaths.
VIC: 1,420 new COVID-19 cases, 11 deaths.
NSW outbreak seems to be waning. This is a Good Thing.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-06/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100516246
And in today’s Sweden Stalk…South Africa has overtaken them in the deaths per million table, with Russia and Greece closing in quite quickly.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
VIC: Geographic breakdown of case numbers
Jeroen Weimar is providing a breakdown of where the day’s 1,420 cases have come from.
377 cases were in the western Suburbs such as Tarneit, Truganina and Point Cook562 cases are in the northern suburbs
89 cases in eastern suburbs such as Doncaster and Templestowe
307 cases in south-eastern suburbs, such as Pakenham, Dandenong and Noble Park
80 cases in regional Victoria, most significantly with 15 in Greater Shepparton, 8 new cases in Ballarat, 8 in La Trobe, 4 in Mildura
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From the ABC live updates.
Still no positive cases in Casterton…
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Having looked up the definition of that word, I suppose it would depend on which meaning of the word was being used.
yeah yeah, that wouldn’t yield much would it, wouldn’t give much of an idea of what it is before you get your definition from the dictionary, social forces or culture define it for you, absorb what it ought be, bit like removing your own brain to study mind
What is a bit like removing your own brain to study mind?
what a devotee of physicalism might do when pondering the metaphysical
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:yeah yeah, that wouldn’t yield much would it, wouldn’t give much of an idea of what it is before you get your definition from the dictionary, social forces or culture define it for you, absorb what it ought be, bit like removing your own brain to study mind
What is a bit like removing your own brain to study mind?
what a devotee of physicalism might do when pondering the metaphysical
Why would they do that?
It doesn’t sound very physicalist to me.
so biology is metaphysics ¿¡
Michael V said:
NSW outbreak seems to be waning. This is a Good Thing.
well, if you do half the peak number of tests and get half the peak number of cases then uh
SCIENCE said:
so biology is metaphysics ¿¡
of course not, shouldn’t be anyway, certainly not in the pejorative sense you maybe have an inclination to use that latter term
but i’d add that any time you have a thought about a thought, think about your own thinking, good chance there’s metaphysics about it, of the species it’s been going on for at least 300,000 years i’d reckon
which might raise the question of if it’s possible to understand much biology at all without thinking about thinking
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
so biology is metaphysics ¿¡
of course not, shouldn’t be anyway, certainly not in the pejorative sense you maybe have an inclination to use that latter term
but i’d add that any time you have a thought about a thought, think about your own thinking, good chance there’s metaphysics about it, of the species it’s been going on for at least 300,000 years i’d reckon
which might raise the question of if it’s possible to understand much biology at all without thinking about thinking
To stop and think about what you are thinking about is one of PWM’s life primers.
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
so biology is metaphysics ¿¡
of course not, shouldn’t be anyway, certainly not in the pejorative sense you maybe have an inclination to use that latter term
but i’d add that any time you have a thought about a thought, think about your own thinking, good chance there’s metaphysics about it, of the species it’s been going on for at least 300,000 years i’d reckon
which might raise the question of if it’s possible to understand much biology at all without thinking about thinking
Who says metaphysics is a pejorative term?
I’d say that a good deal of biology can be understood without thinking about thinking.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Who says metaphysics is a pejorative term?
Henri Bergson?
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Who says metaphysics is a pejorative term?
Henri Bergson?
OK, I’ll give you Henri Bergson, but who says else says metaphysics is a pejorative term?
(Actually, having consulted TATE, he seems to have had the opposite view)
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Who says metaphysics is a pejorative term?
Henri Bergson?
OK, I’ll give you Henri Bergson, but who says else says metaphysics is a pejorative term?
(Actually, having consulted TATE, he seems to have had the opposite view)
Yeah, well, he meant that other people applied it to his thinking as a pejorative term.
(This is a sneaky attempt to cover up my faulty recollections of Bergson’s philosophy.)
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Who says metaphysics is a pejorative term?
Henri Bergson?
OK, I’ll give you Henri Bergson, but who says else says metaphysics is a pejorative term?
(Actually, having consulted TATE, he seems to have had the opposite view)
you’d need ask SCIENCE if he was, using it as a swearword of sorts
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:Henri Bergson?
OK, I’ll give you Henri Bergson, but who says else says metaphysics is a pejorative term?
(Actually, having consulted TATE, he seems to have had the opposite view)
you’d need ask SCIENCE if he was, using it as a swearword of sorts
sorry we meant in the sense of paraphysics, or perhaps orthophysics, but the term wasn’t paraanalysis nor orthoanalysis
AstraZeneca has asked the US Food and Drug Administration to authorise the emergency use of a first-of-a-kind antibody treatment to prevent COVID-19.
An Australian specialist described the treatment as “important” but with “niche” uses.
The Anglo-Swedish company said the treatment, known as AZD7442, would be the first long-acting antibody combination to receive an emergency authorisation for COVID-19 prevention.
If authorised, the drug would likely be limited to people with compromised immune systems who do not get enough protection from vaccination.
“First and foremost we want to protect those vulnerable populations that haven’t been adequately protected by the vaccine,” Menelas Pangalos, AstraZeneca’s head of research and development, said.
“But ultimately it will be up to health authorities to work out who they choose to immunise.”
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This could have been an option for Tamb if it were available at the time.
Peak Warming Man said:
AstraZeneca has asked the US Food and Drug Administration to authorise the emergency use of a first-of-a-kind antibody treatment to prevent COVID-19.
An Australian specialist described the treatment as “important” but with “niche” uses.
The Anglo-Swedish company said the treatment, known as AZD7442, would be the first long-acting antibody combination to receive an emergency authorisation for COVID-19 prevention.
If authorised, the drug would likely be limited to people with compromised immune systems who do not get enough protection from vaccination.
“First and foremost we want to protect those vulnerable populations that haven’t been adequately protected by the vaccine,” Menelas Pangalos, AstraZeneca’s head of research and development, said.
“But ultimately it will be up to health authorities to work out who they choose to immunise.”
—————————————-This could have been an option for Tamb if it were available at the time.
However, because the protection provided is only temporary and likely not as “robust” as the immunity induced by vaccines, they are most useful for people in whom vaccination is not effective, such as those receiving cancer therapy or organ transplants. The FDA has also stressed that antibody drugs are not a substitute for vaccination, which it says is the most effective, long-lasting form of virus protection.
Laugh Out Loud not as robust and not most effective, as maybe the Covishield / Vaxzevria vaccine hey ¿
Antibody drugs are also expensive to produce.
That’s right, exactly why we should pour money into “The Anglo-Swedish company”, because those are 2 nationalist nations that did the best in pandemic control ¡
Oh wait they didn’t, because there’s more money in flogging drugs to hold back a disease that you don’t actually stop, wait …
wait a few days so your restrictions won’t maximally suppress eliminate ZERO-COVID-LIKE-A-COMMUNIST when you implement
… wait that’s right ¡
The Health.gov.au vaccination status tables have the unfortunate property of maxing out at 95%. Like the ACT’s over-50 “at least one dose” shows as “>95%”. Is it 99.9%? Is it 95.01%?
dv said:
The Health.gov.au vaccination status tables have the unfortunate property of maxing out at 95%. Like the ACT’s over-50 “at least one dose” shows as “>95%”. Is it 99.9%? Is it 95.01%?
I don’t know, sorry.
Michael V said:
dv said:
The Health.gov.au vaccination status tables have the unfortunate property of maxing out at 95%. Like the ACT’s over-50 “at least one dose” shows as “>95%”. Is it 99.9%? Is it 95.01%?
I don’t know, sorry.
Well I guess we all did our best
dv said:
The Health.gov.au vaccination status tables have the unfortunate property of maxing out at 95%. Like the ACT’s over-50 “at least one dose” shows as “>95%”. Is it 99.9%? Is it 95.01%?
The figures reported for our LGA (first dose) have stated simply 95%+ for about a week. The second doses reported continue to increase, and yesterday they were reported at 84.9%.
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
The Health.gov.au vaccination status tables have the unfortunate property of maxing out at 95%. Like the ACT’s over-50 “at least one dose” shows as “>95%”. Is it 99.9%? Is it 95.01%?
I don’t know, sorry.
Well I guess we all did our best
I didn’t try.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Michael V said:I don’t know, sorry.
Well I guess we all did our best
I didn’t try.
Yeah but it’s the thought that counts
ABC New:
‘New Years Eve deadline for WA to reach 80 per cent COVID-19 vaccination
By Briana Shepherd
Despite a slow start in vaccination take-up, Western Australia’s vaccine commander says the state is on track to reach its 80 per cent fully vaccinated target by December 31.’
Then it’s chuck the masks away, fling open the borders, and the Devil take the hindmost!
Happy New Year! Long live the economy!
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Michael V said:I don’t know, sorry.
Well I guess we all did our best
I didn’t try.
I wasn’t here…
WTF eh
Sweden and Denmark said on Wednesday they will pause the use of Moderna’s (MRNA.O) COVID-19 vaccine for younger age groups after reports of possible rare side effects, such as myocarditis. The Swedish health agency said it would pause using the shot for people born in 1991 and later as data pointed to an increase of myocarditis and pericarditis among youths and young adults that had been vaccinated. Denmark said that, while it was already using the Pfizer/Biontech vaccine as the main option for people aged 12-17 years, it had decided to pause giving the Moderna vaccine to people below 18 according to a “precautionary principle”. “In the preliminary data … there is a suspicion of an increased risk of heart inflammation, when vaccinated with Moderna,” The Danish Health Authority said in a statement.
“precautionary principle” like how faced with a choice between {controlling a pandemic in the first place}, and {fucking around for The Economy Must Grow and finding out that just like actual experts figured, people need to be healthy to be economically productive}, yeah, well
Sweden and Denmark said they now recommended the Comirnaty vaccine, from Pfizer/Biontech, instead.
Laugh Out Loud
uh
Information seen by The Independent confirms North Middlesex Hospital in north London had 210 people waiting to be seen by staff at it’s A&E department on Monday afternoon – one of the highest ever numbers.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/nhs-north-mid-emergency-crowding-b1933262.html
In June, the North Middlesex University Hospital Trust declared an incident after it recorded 700 A&E attendances in a single day, a record high since January 2020, before the Covid crisis, when 684 patients attended in a single day. Staff on the ground say having 210 patients all waiting to be seen at the same time is a serious risk to patient safety for those patients who are ill.
One doctor at the trust, who asked not to be named said: “The volume of patients we are seeing are astronomical. It’s now regularly above 700 a day when previously a ‘busy’ average day would be 600. They added: “It’s impossible to function in an emergency department that has 30 plus patients waiting for beds – there is literally no space in which to see ‘new’ patients, so the queue keeps stacking up.” “Frankly, the idea of going into winter in this state is terrifying.”
Before the Covid crisis, the A&E department was seeing only an average of between 550 and 600 people a day – still significantly more than the amount the unit was designed for.
Trust chief executive Dr Nnenna Osuji said: “Like many other hospitals around the country, North Mid is seeing significant demand for emergency care. Although attendances are high, we remain open and it’s important local people know they will get safe, high quality care if they do need to attend A&E. “When I visited our emergency department yesterday evening, it was calm, well-managed, and safe, and that’s testament to the continual hard work and compassion of our team.”
oh all right fine you know what, we take back all of the shit we said about NSWuhan / VIC / all of Australia hospitals “coping”, and say, fine, we concede, they actually are coping
(1) Meanwhile Australian states are starting to bring in these tests because, you know, 6 months behind and ready to win¡
(2) There’s that “research” thing again, nice one.
Researchers may have discovered the underlying cause of “Covid toes”, the chilblain-like inflammation and lesions reported by many patients with Covid-19.
The symptom, which has been seen from early in the COVID-19 pandemic, sees patients’ toes or fingers turn red or purple, often with painful bumps and occasionally pus.
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/have-you-had-covid-toes-a-new-study-might-explain-why/
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
The New York Times
17 mins ·
Breaking News: The WHO approved the first ever malaria vaccine, which could save tens of thousands of children in sub-Saharan Africa. The quest for this vaccine has been underway for a hundred years, a WHO official said, and is a “historic event.”
Ah yeah we’d seen scraps of news about this kind of thing (might be in one of those COV threads way back). Crazy to think that all it took was a pandemic that actually kind of threatened rich people for once, but before the best news is out remember: Australia might have agreed to the waiver for rights but other big and rich countries are pretty insistent on keeping it tight.
Still, that might mean the open gates are only 20 years away … or it might not because these rich @*#!$&s will have ways of derailing it once the expiry date on monopoly gets close.
Don’t worry, like this minor treatment option your health system won’t be affording any of it after Coping With COVID-19®¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/australian-first-gene-eye-therapy-treatment/100518908
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
sounds like coping
State and territory health ministers are asking for “crisis funding” for hospitals as Australia prepares to ease COVID-19 restrictions.
had a read where that came from
might add, it’s not really a pandemic if you release a virus, not by my definition, something worse
uh
More than 200 patients wait to be seen in near record A&E numbers at London hospital
Information seen by The Independent confirms North Middlesex Hospital in north London had 210 people waiting to be seen by staff at it’s A&E department on Monday afternoon – one of the highest ever numbers.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/nhs-north-mid-emergency-crowding-b1933262.html
In June, the North Middlesex University Hospital Trust declared an incident after it recorded 700 A&E attendances in a single day, a record high since January 2020, before the Covid crisis, when 684 patients attended in a single day. Staff on the ground say having 210 patients all waiting to be seen at the same time is a serious risk to patient safety for those patients who are ill.
One doctor at the trust, who asked not to be named said: “The volume of patients we are seeing are astronomical. It’s now regularly above 700 a day when previously a ‘busy’ average day would be 600. They added: “It’s impossible to function in an emergency department that has 30 plus patients waiting for beds – there is literally no space in which to see ‘new’ patients, so the queue keeps stacking up.” “Frankly, the idea of going into winter in this state is terrifying.”
Before the Covid crisis, the A&E department was seeing only an average of between 550 and 600 people a day – still significantly more than the amount the unit was designed for.
Trust chief executive Dr Nnenna Osuji said: “Like many other hospitals around the country, North Mid is seeing significant demand for emergency care. Although attendances are high, we remain open and it’s important local people know they will get safe, high quality care if they do need to attend A&E. “When I visited our emergency department yesterday evening, it was calm, well-managed, and safe, and that’s testament to the continual hard work and compassion of our team.”
oh all right fine you know what, we take back all of the shit we said about NSWuhan / VIC / all of Australia hospitals “coping”, and say, fine, we concede, they actually are coping
Laugh Out Loud
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/nsw-new-covid-crisis-cabinet-to-focus-more-on-economy/100519586
>>Crisis cabinet will have a stronger focus on the state’s economic recovery under planned changes, Premier Dominic Perrottet has announced.
The new Premier while committing to Monday, October 11 as the day when restrictions start to lift, had also flagged there was room for some tweaks to the COVID-19 roadmap.
And last night, he announced a name change for crisis cabinet to the COVID and Economic Recovery Committee. He also said economic experts such as NSW Chief Economist Stephen Walter would have more of a say.
More details are expected to be revealed today.
The announcement comes as NSW hit its 70 per cent double vaccination target yesterday.
Mr Perrottet also said the daily COVID-19 briefings would be scrapped and from next week case numbers would be released at 9.00am.<<
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/nsw-new-covid-crisis-cabinet-to-focus-more-on-economy/100519586>>Crisis cabinet will have a stronger focus on the state’s economic recovery under planned changes, Premier Dominic Perrottet has announced.
The new Premier while committing to Monday, October 11 as the day when restrictions start to lift, had also flagged there was room for some tweaks to the COVID-19 roadmap.
And last night, he announced a name change for crisis cabinet to the COVID and Economic Recovery Committee. He also said economic experts such as NSW Chief Economist Stephen Walter would have more of a say.
More details are expected to be revealed today.
The announcement comes as NSW hit its 70 per cent double vaccination target yesterday.
Mr Perrottet also said the daily COVID-19 briefings would be scrapped and from next week case numbers would be released at 9.00am.<<
Best of luck with all of that.
VIC: 1,638 new local cases, two deaths.
(Yesterday: of 1,420
Peak:1,763.)
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100519376
Michael V said:
VIC: 1,638 new local cases, two deaths.(Yesterday: of 1,420
Peak:1,763.)
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100519376
The number of deaths is still pretty low.
The new NSW Premier wants mask mandates dropped (why?)
He also wants the QLD border opened.
I call “complete idiot” on the first issue, the second will not happen until he gets the NSW epidemic under control (how, without masks?).
buffy said:
Michael V said:
VIC: 1,638 new local cases, two deaths.(Yesterday: of 1,420
Peak:1,763.)
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100519376
The number of deaths is still pretty low.
Thankfully.
Michael V said:
The new NSW Premier wants mask mandates dropped (why?)He also wants the QLD border opened.
I call “complete idiot” on the first issue, the second will not happen until he gets the NSW epidemic under control (how, without masks?).
Perrotidiot?
Michael V said:
The new NSW Premier wants mask mandates dropped (why?)He also wants the QLD border opened.
I call “complete idiot” on the first issue, the second will not happen until he gets the NSW epidemic under control (how, without masks?).
following the money advice comes to mind
like I said previous, it could be case of better the devil you know…
transition said:
Michael V said:
The new NSW Premier wants mask mandates dropped (why?)He also wants the QLD border opened.
I call “complete idiot” on the first issue, the second will not happen until he gets the NSW epidemic under control (how, without masks?).
following the money advice comes to mind
like I said previous, it could be case of better the devil you know…
Problem is, we know the economy well but we have a long way to go on knowing the environment.
Michael V said:
The new NSW Premier wants mask mandates dropped (why?)He also wants the QLD border opened.
I call “complete idiot” on the first issue, the second will not happen until he gets the NSW epidemic under control (how, without masks?).
Premier Pirouette says ‘I just don’t care any more, and i don’t see why anyone else should’.
FMD…… as of 11th Oct (4 days away) NSW venues (non essential) will require evidence of double vaxxed to get in.
As yet, it is not known how this will be done, proved, or policed.
Can I get an amen for that? for Mr Pairotits, of course.
Considerable and excessive eye rolling gesticulations from the rest will suffice.
Woodie said:
FMD…… as of 11th Oct (4 days away) NSW venues (non essential) will require evidence of double vaxxed to get in.As yet, it is not known how this will be done, proved, or policed.
Can I get an amen for that? for Mr Pairotits, of course.
Considerable and excessive eye rolling gesticulations from the rest will suffice.
On the other hand, if it can be made to work, it’ll be great fun to be inside and to point and jeer at the anti-vaxxers who can’t get in.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
The new NSW Premier wants mask mandates dropped (why?)He also wants the QLD border opened.
I call “complete idiot” on the first issue, the second will not happen until he gets the NSW epidemic under control (how, without masks?).
Premier Pirouette says ‘I just don’t care any more, and i don’t see why anyone else should’.
He reckons 18 year olds should be allowed to go out and party, get drunk and do silly things. Wonder if he’s looked at the stats on youth deaths by misadventure during covid?
Woodie said:
FMD…… as of 11th Oct (4 days away) NSW venues (non essential) will require evidence of double vaxxed to get in.As yet, it is not known how this will be done, proved, or policed.
Can I get an amen for that? for Mr Pairotits, of course.
Considerable and excessive eye rolling gesticulations from the rest will suffice.
Oh……. and all the ABC can tell about this is more whinging from the owner of the local indoor swimming pool.
roughbarked said:
He reckons 18 year olds should be allowed to go out and party, get drunk and do silly things. Wonder if he’s looked at the stats on youth deaths by misadventure during covid?
In Queensland, there’s a health programme aimed at senior high school students – Preventing Alcohol Related Trauma in Youth (PARTY). Basically, it shows the downside of the possible consequences of getting shit-faced and silly e.g. this is what it’s like to walk on crutches, want to do that for several weeks? (and a lot of other stuff besides).
Perhaps Premier Parakeet could be made aware of it.
Conservative religious believers are more likely to reject masks, and Pinochet is on the conservative side of the church he serves in NSW Parliament.
Bubblecar said:
Conservative religious believers are more likely to reject masks, and Pinochet is on the conservative side of the church he serves in NSW Parliament.
It’s ok, protection will still be available, they’re going to ensure that there’s plenty of holy water to go around.
captain_spalding said:
– Preventing Alcohol Related Trauma in Youth (PARTY).
Very good. Wonder hour many weeks, think tanks, brainstorming, working panel and committee meetings it took to come up with that one. Does it involve a roadmap? It’s all to no avail, and nothing without a roadmap these days.
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:– Preventing Alcohol Related Trauma in Youth (PARTY).Very good. Wonder hour many weeks, think tanks, brainstorming, working panel and committee meetings it took to come up with that one. Does it involve a roadmap? It’s all to no avail, and nothing without a roadmap these days.
It seems to be an appropriate title, and it looks like a good programme. I’ve seen some of the sessions, and they combine a good deal of fun with the teaching. There are couple of bits that l have the kids a little bit stunned, but the fun bits make them more receptive and the juxtapostion of fun/serious enhances the impact of the teaching.
captain_spalding said:
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:– Preventing Alcohol Related Trauma in Youth (PARTY).Very good. Wonder hour many weeks, think tanks, brainstorming, working panel and committee meetings it took to come up with that one. Does it involve a roadmap? It’s all to no avail, and nothing without a roadmap these days.
It seems to be an appropriate title, and it looks like a good programme. I’ve seen some of the sessions, and they combine a good deal of fun with the teaching. There are couple of bits that l have the kids a little bit stunned, but the fun bits make them more receptive and the juxtapostion of fun/serious enhances the impact of the teaching.
A bit like the mine safety programs?
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Woodie said:Very good. Wonder hour many weeks, think tanks, brainstorming, working panel and committee meetings it took to come up with that one. Does it involve a roadmap? It’s all to no avail, and nothing without a roadmap these days.
It seems to be an appropriate title, and it looks like a good programme. I’ve seen some of the sessions, and they combine a good deal of fun with the teaching. There are couple of bits that l have the kids a little bit stunned, but the fun bits make them more receptive and the juxtapostion of fun/serious enhances the impact of the teaching.
A bit like the mine safety programs?
Quite possibly. Don’t know about them. Maybe PARTY was inspired by/developed from those.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:It seems to be an appropriate title, and it looks like a good programme. I’ve seen some of the sessions, and they combine a good deal of fun with the teaching. There are couple of bits that l have the kids a little bit stunned, but the fun bits make them more receptive and the juxtapostion of fun/serious enhances the impact of the teaching.
A bit like the mine safety programs?
Quite possibly. Don’t know about them. Maybe PARTY was inspired by/developed from those.
I was imagining videos of blokes standing on a couple of chairs in a front end loader bucket for example.
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:– Preventing Alcohol Related Trauma in Youth (PARTY).Very good. Wonder hour many weeks, think tanks, brainstorming, working panel and committee meetings it took to come up with that one. Does it involve a roadmap? It’s all to no avail, and nothing without a roadmap these days.
And a Steering Committee to go with that Roadmap.
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:– Preventing Alcohol Related Trauma in Youth (PARTY).Very good. Wonder hour many weeks, think tanks, brainstorming, working panel and committee meetings it took to come up with that one. Does it involve a roadmap? It’s all to no avail, and nothing without a roadmap these days.
And a Steering Committee to go with that Roadmap.
I don’t believe we should ever do any of that when designing a program. just go with a gut feeling. do plenty of research online from say wellness and mindfulness experts and take it from there. we all know well structured programs are shit.
Peak Warming Man said:
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:– Preventing Alcohol Related Trauma in Youth (PARTY).Very good. Wonder hour many weeks, think tanks, brainstorming, working panel and committee meetings it took to come up with that one. Does it involve a roadmap? It’s all to no avail, and nothing without a roadmap these days.
And a Steering Committee to go with that Roadmap.
Which committee ever agreed on anything other than accepting the minutes of the last meeting?
“Analysis suggests vaccines are reducing the death rate in the current Victorian outbreak.
COVID-19 vaccination in Victoria appears to be leading to less severe health outcomes for people who catch the virus, according to analysis by a University of Melbourne academic.
Associate Professor Matt Hopcraft compared data from Victoria and NSW when both states reached 25,000 COVID-19 cases in their current Delta outbreaks.
The data showed NSW had 979 people in hospital, of whom 160 were in ICU, and had recorded 119 deaths when the state reached 25,000 cases on September 3.
Victoria has now reached the same stage in its outbreak, and has around half the number of people in hospital, and recorded around 40 per cent fewer deaths.
Victoria is currently at around 54 per cent of its population who are fully vaccinated, while NSW was around 40 per cent fully vaccinated when it reached 25,000 cases.
“It seems like vaccination is one of the things that’s potentially reducing that impact in terms of the serious outcomes for people,” Associate Professor Hopcraft told ABC Radio Melbourne.
“Vaccination is not going to prevent some people from getting the disease, it certainly does prevent a lot of transmission so we’ll see fewer cases, but it’s about preventing the serious illness and that’s what we seem to be seeing.
“I think we’re all looking for glimmers of hope wherever we can find them.””
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Some light at the end of the tunnel, perhaps. Is it for real, though? Or just a flash in the pan?
Perhaps VIC’s hospital care is better than NSW. We just don’t know yet.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100519376
New Zealand will hold an ‘Election Day’-style vaccination event.
The hope, for a single Saturday, amounts to vaccinating about one in 12 of those eligible for a shot, and one in 15 of the total population.
By Natasha Frost
Oct. 6, 2021, 5:00 a.m. ET
New Zealand hopes to vaccinate as many as 350,000 people in a single day next week, the country’s largest Covid inoculation effort to date, as it pushes closer to reopening its economy.
Vaccination clinics will be open all day on Saturday, Oct. 16, said Chris Hipkins, the minister leading New Zealand’s Covid-19 response. The facilities will be able to vaccinate 350,000 people — about 8.3 percent of the eligible population of people 12 and older, he said.
“Like on Election Day, we’ll be asking all of our civic and political leaders to contribute to our efforts to turn people out,” Mr. Hipkins said.
New Zealand has had one of the most successful responses to the pandemic, recording just 28 deaths from the virus. And though it was late to begin its vaccination campaign, the country is now on pace to fully vaccinate about 90 percent of its eligible population by the end of November.
New Zealand is the latest country to focus its intense vaccination efforts into a single day. In August, Tunisia vaccinated more than 500,000 people in one day, and this month India said it had given 25 million shots on a single day to mark Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s birthday.
As of Wednesday, 50 percent of New Zealand’s eligible population had received two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech shot, the only vaccine the country is using, while 80 percent had received a single dose.
New Zealand is also cutting the time between receiving a first and second dose, to three weeks, from six — a shift that means “more people can be fully vaccinated sooner, increasing our community immunity,” a health ministry official said in a statement.
The country is currently administering about 17,000 first doses and about 46,000 second doses a day, according to the most recent data. Its rate of first vaccination doses has been dwindling, down more than three-fourths from an August high of about 67,000 doses a day.
New Zealand has not set a vaccine target or a date at which to ease restrictions, although Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said on Tuesday that the country would introduce a national vaccine certificate that would be required for entry into “high-risk settings” like summer music festivals.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/world/asia/new-zealand-vaccine-day.html?
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That’s an impressive number if they can do it.
QLD: Zero new cases.
Good! Let’s keep it that way.
Michael V said:
QLD: Zero new cases.
Good! Let’s keep it that way.
respect
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:QLD: Zero new cases.
Good! Let’s keep it that way.
respect
How Jamaican of you!
:)
Michael V said:
QLD: Zero new cases.Good! Let’s keep it that way.
NSW: 587 new cases, 8 deaths
VIC already reported…
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/6/sweden-denmark-pause-moderna-covid-jabs-for-younger-age-groups
buffy said:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/6/sweden-denmark-pause-moderna-covid-jabs-for-younger-age-groups
Oh, for God’s sake, youngsters, just go and get some sort of vaccine.
Something’s got to kill you eventually, you can’t live forever, y’know.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/6/sweden-denmark-pause-moderna-covid-jabs-for-younger-age-groups
Oh, for God’s sake, youngsters, just go and get some sort of vaccine.
Something’s got to kill you eventually, you can’t live forever, y’know.
I actually find it a bit odd that people are suddenly brand conscious about vaccines. There’s never been choice before, even though there were different brands. And no-one ever asked about obscure side effects. You just went and had a vaccine for whatever it was you needed a vaccine for.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/6/sweden-denmark-pause-moderna-covid-jabs-for-younger-age-groups
Oh, for God’s sake, youngsters, just go and get some sort of vaccine.
Something’s got to kill you eventually, you can’t live forever, y’know.
I actually find it a bit odd that people are suddenly brand conscious about vaccines. There’s never been choice before, even though there were different brands. And no-one ever asked about obscure side effects. You just went and had a vaccine for whatever it was you needed a vaccine for.
Social Media, eh…
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/6/sweden-denmark-pause-moderna-covid-jabs-for-younger-age-groups
Oh, for God’s sake, youngsters, just go and get some sort of vaccine.
Something’s got to kill you eventually, you can’t live forever, y’know.
I actually find it a bit odd that people are suddenly brand conscious about vaccines. There’s never been choice before, even though there were different brands. And no-one ever asked about obscure side effects. You just went and had a vaccine for whatever it was you needed a vaccine for.
Do you ask which brand your anesthetic is for you heart transplant? Nup.
Your antibiotics jab for a dose of the clap? Nup.
The brand of Botox they stick in ya face? Nup.
Woodie said:
Do you ask which brand your anesthetic is for you heart transplant? Nup.
Your antibiotics jab for a dose of the clap? Nup.
The brand of Botox they stick in ya face? Nup.
When the ship is sinking, you don’t ask who built the life-boat.
Woodie said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:Oh, for God’s sake, youngsters, just go and get some sort of vaccine.
Something’s got to kill you eventually, you can’t live forever, y’know.
I actually find it a bit odd that people are suddenly brand conscious about vaccines. There’s never been choice before, even though there were different brands. And no-one ever asked about obscure side effects. You just went and had a vaccine for whatever it was you needed a vaccine for.
Do you ask which brand your anesthetic is for you heart transplant? Nup.
Your antibiotics jab for a dose of the clap? Nup.
The brand of Botox they stick in ya face? Nup.
Could all be chemical weapons made for use in Iraq, for all I know.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:Oh, for God’s sake, youngsters, just go and get some sort of vaccine.
Something’s got to kill you eventually, you can’t live forever, y’know.
I actually find it a bit odd that people are suddenly brand conscious about vaccines. There’s never been choice before, even though there were different brands. And no-one ever asked about obscure side effects. You just went and had a vaccine for whatever it was you needed a vaccine for.
Social Media, eh…
though people do ask their doctor about generic brand drugs. mainly to save money.
Woodie said:
Could all be chemical weapons made for use in Iraq, for all I know.
Could all be chemical weapons made for use by Iraq.
The answer to where those elusive WMDs got to.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:I actually find it a bit odd that people are suddenly brand conscious about vaccines. There’s never been choice before, even though there were different brands. And no-one ever asked about obscure side effects. You just went and had a vaccine for whatever it was you needed a vaccine for.
Social Media, eh…
though people do ask their doctor about generic brand drugs. mainly to save money.
Wah…. sorta like…. Woollies brand botox? Aisle 14, top shelf on the left?
Woodie said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:Social Media, eh…
though people do ask their doctor about generic brand drugs. mainly to save money.
Wah…. sorta like…. Woollies brand botox? Aisle 14, top shelf on the left?
probably, but not from woollies.
Woodie said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
Oh, for God’s sake, youngsters, just go and get some sort of vaccine.
Something’s got to kill you eventually, you can’t live forever, y’know.
I actually find it a bit odd that people are suddenly brand conscious about vaccines. There’s never been choice before, even though there were different brands. And no-one ever asked about obscure side effects. You just went and had a vaccine for whatever it was you needed a vaccine for.
Do you ask which brand your anesthetic is for you heart transplant? Nup.
Your antibiotics jab for a dose of the clap? Nup.
The brand of Botox they stick in ya face? Nup.
are the active ingredients in those equivalent between brands though
we mean if we wanted to sweeten food, there is a difference between honey and cane sugar and saccharin and carrots and so forth
sarahs mum said:
Vatican instructions.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Vatican instructions.
….which Rupert, as a Knight Commander of St Gregory, is of course authorised to convey.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Vatican instructions.
A Papal encyclical ya rackon? Populorum Progressio?
sarahs mum said:
Yeah. No pretense now…
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Yeah. No pretense now…
More spin – this time from Scummo:
Mr Morrison says 81 per cent of over-16s around the country are first-dose vaccinated, with just under 60 per cent fully vaccinated.
95 per cent of over-70s have had their first dose, and for over-50s, 90 per cent have had their first dose. He said the country would hit 30 million doses of the vaccine administered this week.
“What that shows is the problems and challenges that we’ve had, we’ve addressed. We have fixed. And we have turned it around, and we’re on the home stretch, and we’re moving towards that line, and then we need to keep going beyond it.
“Because I believe Australia can achieve much higher vaccination rates than the 70 and 80 per cent that we’ve set out in the national plan and that will only give us greater confidence and enable us to move even more quickly as we open the country up.”
“…Now Australians are beginning to get their lives back. The things that have been taken from them, because of this awful pandemic, the ability of Australians to come together, Australians to spend time with one another, to do business, to be together with family, to go to weddings, to go to funerals. All of these times so precious.
“And these times are now being restored. Because of the vaccination rates hitting the levels that we’ve needed them to, as set out in the scientific work that has been done by the Doherty Institute.”
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100519376
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Yeah. No pretense now…
More spin – this time from Scummo:
Mr Morrison says 81 per cent of over-16s around the country are first-dose vaccinated, with just under 60 per cent fully vaccinated.
95 per cent of over-70s have had their first dose, and for over-50s, 90 per cent have had their first dose. He said the country would hit 30 million doses of the vaccine administered this week.
“What that shows is the problems and challenges that we’ve had, we’ve addressed. We have fixed. And we have turned it around, and we’re on the home stretch, and we’re moving towards that line, and then we need to keep going beyond it.
“Because I believe Australia can achieve much higher vaccination rates than the 70 and 80 per cent that we’ve set out in the national plan and that will only give us greater confidence and enable us to move even more quickly as we open the country up.”
“…Now Australians are beginning to get their lives back. The things that have been taken from them, because of this awful pandemic, the ability of Australians to come together, Australians to spend time with one another, to do business, to be together with family, to go to weddings, to go to funerals. All of these times so precious.
“And these times are now being restored. Because of the vaccination rates hitting the levels that we’ve needed them to, as set out in the scientific work that has been done by the Doherty Institute.”
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100519376
Where’s the spin in that? He does underplay the fuck up in getting doses out but the rest is just current figures and a statement that eventually things have to get back to some form of normality, and is citing the Doherty Institute as his scientific source.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Yeah. No pretense now…
More spin – this time from Scummo:
Mr Morrison says 81 per cent of over-16s around the country are first-dose vaccinated, with just under 60 per cent fully vaccinated.
95 per cent of over-70s have had their first dose, and for over-50s, 90 per cent have had their first dose. He said the country would hit 30 million doses of the vaccine administered this week.
“What that shows is the problems and challenges that we’ve had, we’ve addressed. We have fixed. And we have turned it around, and we’re on the home stretch, and we’re moving towards that line, and then we need to keep going beyond it.
“Because I believe Australia can achieve much higher vaccination rates than the 70 and 80 per cent that we’ve set out in the national plan and that will only give us greater confidence and enable us to move even more quickly as we open the country up.”
“…Now Australians are beginning to get their lives back. The things that have been taken from them, because of this awful pandemic, the ability of Australians to come together, Australians to spend time with one another, to do business, to be together with family, to go to weddings, to go to funerals. All of these times so precious.
“And these times are now being restored. Because of the vaccination rates hitting the levels that we’ve needed them to, as set out in the scientific work that has been done by the Doherty Institute.”
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100519376
>>and we’re moving towards that line<<
What line? It’s not a race…
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:Yeah. No pretense now…
More spin – this time from Scummo:
Mr Morrison says 81 per cent of over-16s around the country are first-dose vaccinated, with just under 60 per cent fully vaccinated.
95 per cent of over-70s have had their first dose, and for over-50s, 90 per cent have had their first dose. He said the country would hit 30 million doses of the vaccine administered this week.
“What that shows is the problems and challenges that we’ve had, we’ve addressed. We have fixed. And we have turned it around, and we’re on the home stretch, and we’re moving towards that line, and then we need to keep going beyond it.
“Because I believe Australia can achieve much higher vaccination rates than the 70 and 80 per cent that we’ve set out in the national plan and that will only give us greater confidence and enable us to move even more quickly as we open the country up.”
“…Now Australians are beginning to get their lives back. The things that have been taken from them, because of this awful pandemic, the ability of Australians to come together, Australians to spend time with one another, to do business, to be together with family, to go to weddings, to go to funerals. All of these times so precious.
“And these times are now being restored. Because of the vaccination rates hitting the levels that we’ve needed them to, as set out in the scientific work that has been done by the Doherty Institute.”
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100519376>>and we’re moving towards that line<<
What line? It’s not a race…
If Rupert says it’s a race, then it’s a race.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:Yeah. No pretense now…
More spin – this time from Scummo:
Mr Morrison says 81 per cent of over-16s around the country are first-dose vaccinated, with just under 60 per cent fully vaccinated.
95 per cent of over-70s have had their first dose, and for over-50s, 90 per cent have had their first dose. He said the country would hit 30 million doses of the vaccine administered this week.
“What that shows is the problems and challenges that we’ve had, we’ve addressed. We have fixed. And we have turned it around, and we’re on the home stretch, and we’re moving towards that line, and then we need to keep going beyond it.
“Because I believe Australia can achieve much higher vaccination rates than the 70 and 80 per cent that we’ve set out in the national plan and that will only give us greater confidence and enable us to move even more quickly as we open the country up.”
“…Now Australians are beginning to get their lives back. The things that have been taken from them, because of this awful pandemic, the ability of Australians to come together, Australians to spend time with one another, to do business, to be together with family, to go to weddings, to go to funerals. All of these times so precious.
“And these times are now being restored. Because of the vaccination rates hitting the levels that we’ve needed them to, as set out in the scientific work that has been done by the Doherty Institute.”
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100519376Where’s the spin in that? He does underplay the fuck up in getting doses out but the rest is just current figures and a statement that eventually things have to get back to some form of normality, and is citing the Doherty Institute as his scientific source.
“…Now Australians are beginning to get their lives back. The things that have been taken from them, because of this awful pandemic, the ability of Australians to come together, Australians to spend time with one another, to do business, to be together with family, to go to weddings, to go to funerals. All of these times so precious.
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Nope, not “if we do this carefully and methodically, keeping our masks on when we can’t socially distance adequately and keeping up the personal hygiene” but that chest-beating stuff above. Nope, that’s not spin up there. Not at all.
As for the Doherty Institute citations (regularly, you might note) – that’s his get out of jail card. Not spin, not one iota. Not at all.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:More spin – this time from Scummo:
Mr Morrison says 81 per cent of over-16s around the country are first-dose vaccinated, with just under 60 per cent fully vaccinated.
95 per cent of over-70s have had their first dose, and for over-50s, 90 per cent have had their first dose. He said the country would hit 30 million doses of the vaccine administered this week.
“What that shows is the problems and challenges that we’ve had, we’ve addressed. We have fixed. And we have turned it around, and we’re on the home stretch, and we’re moving towards that line, and then we need to keep going beyond it.
“Because I believe Australia can achieve much higher vaccination rates than the 70 and 80 per cent that we’ve set out in the national plan and that will only give us greater confidence and enable us to move even more quickly as we open the country up.”
“…Now Australians are beginning to get their lives back. The things that have been taken from them, because of this awful pandemic, the ability of Australians to come together, Australians to spend time with one another, to do business, to be together with family, to go to weddings, to go to funerals. All of these times so precious.
“And these times are now being restored. Because of the vaccination rates hitting the levels that we’ve needed them to, as set out in the scientific work that has been done by the Doherty Institute.”
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100519376Where’s the spin in that? He does underplay the fuck up in getting doses out but the rest is just current figures and a statement that eventually things have to get back to some form of normality, and is citing the Doherty Institute as his scientific source.
“…Now Australians are beginning to get their lives back. The things that have been taken from them, because of this awful pandemic, the ability of Australians to come together, Australians to spend time with one another, to do business, to be together with family, to go to weddings, to go to funerals. All of these times so precious.
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Nope, not “if we do this carefully and methodically, keeping our masks on when we can’t socially distance adequately and keeping up the personal hygiene” but that chest-beating stuff above. Nope, that’s not spin up there. Not at all.
As for the Doherty Institute citations (regularly, you might note) – that’s his get out of jail card. Not spin, not one iota. Not at all.
You’ve got to be really looking for spin to find it in those words, and what do you find offensive in the Doherty modelling?
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:Yeah. No pretense now…
More spin – this time from Scummo:
Mr Morrison says 81 per cent of over-16s around the country are first-dose vaccinated, with just under 60 per cent fully vaccinated.
95 per cent of over-70s have had their first dose, and for over-50s, 90 per cent have had their first dose. He said the country would hit 30 million doses of the vaccine administered this week.
“What that shows is the problems and challenges that we’ve had, we’ve addressed. We have fixed. And we have turned it around, and we’re on the home stretch, and we’re moving towards that line, and then we need to keep going beyond it.
“Because I believe Australia can achieve much higher vaccination rates than the 70 and 80 per cent that we’ve set out in the national plan and that will only give us greater confidence and enable us to move even more quickly as we open the country up.”
“…Now Australians are beginning to get their lives back. The things that have been taken from them, because of this awful pandemic, the ability of Australians to come together, Australians to spend time with one another, to do business, to be together with family, to go to weddings, to go to funerals. All of these times so precious.
“And these times are now being restored. Because of the vaccination rates hitting the levels that we’ve needed them to, as set out in the scientific work that has been done by the Doherty Institute.”
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100519376Where’s the spin in that? He does underplay the fuck up in getting doses out but the rest is just current figures and a statement that eventually things have to get back to some form of normality, and is citing the Doherty Institute as his scientific source.
Wonder what Albino Knees’ spin on it is.
The Mount Gambier case is looking very, very odd. She seems to be the only one positive. And there are no exposure sites for Casterton and the only one listed for Mount Gambier is for a truckie, not the lady.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/mount-gambier-hopes-covid-19-restrictions-may-be-eased/100520186
Woodie said:
Wonder what Albino Knees’ spin on it is.
He and the ALP are content to let Mr. Marketing have the media attention.
They have to be careful to not look too much like an alternative government.
buffy said:
The Mount Gambier case is looking very, very odd. She seems to be the only one positive. And there are no exposure sites for Casterton and the only one listed for Mount Gambier is for a truckie, not the lady.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/mount-gambier-hopes-covid-19-restrictions-may-be-eased/100520186
P’raps her name is Mary Immaculate.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:More spin – this time from Scummo:
Mr Morrison says 81 per cent of over-16s around the country are first-dose vaccinated, with just under 60 per cent fully vaccinated.
95 per cent of over-70s have had their first dose, and for over-50s, 90 per cent have had their first dose. He said the country would hit 30 million doses of the vaccine administered this week.
“What that shows is the problems and challenges that we’ve had, we’ve addressed. We have fixed. And we have turned it around, and we’re on the home stretch, and we’re moving towards that line, and then we need to keep going beyond it.
“Because I believe Australia can achieve much higher vaccination rates than the 70 and 80 per cent that we’ve set out in the national plan and that will only give us greater confidence and enable us to move even more quickly as we open the country up.”
“…Now Australians are beginning to get their lives back. The things that have been taken from them, because of this awful pandemic, the ability of Australians to come together, Australians to spend time with one another, to do business, to be together with family, to go to weddings, to go to funerals. All of these times so precious.
“And these times are now being restored. Because of the vaccination rates hitting the levels that we’ve needed them to, as set out in the scientific work that has been done by the Doherty Institute.”
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100519376>>and we’re moving towards that line<<
What line? It’s not a race…
If Rupert says it’s a race, then it’s a race.
Is that because he’s racist?
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:Where’s the spin in that? He does underplay the fuck up in getting doses out but the rest is just current figures and a statement that eventually things have to get back to some form of normality, and is citing the Doherty Institute as his scientific source.
“…Now Australians are beginning to get their lives back. The things that have been taken from them, because of this awful pandemic, the ability of Australians to come together, Australians to spend time with one another, to do business, to be together with family, to go to weddings, to go to funerals. All of these times so precious.
—————————————
Nope, not “if we do this carefully and methodically, keeping our masks on when we can’t socially distance adequately and keeping up the personal hygiene” but that chest-beating stuff above. Nope, that’s not spin up there. Not at all.
As for the Doherty Institute citations (regularly, you might note) – that’s his get out of jail card. Not spin, not one iota. Not at all.
You’ve got to be really looking for spin to find it in those words, and what do you find offensive in the Doherty modelling?
I didn’t say I found anything offensive in the modelling.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:More spin – this time from Scummo:
Mr Morrison says 81 per cent of over-16s around the country are first-dose vaccinated, with just under 60 per cent fully vaccinated.
95 per cent of over-70s have had their first dose, and for over-50s, 90 per cent have had their first dose. He said the country would hit 30 million doses of the vaccine administered this week.
“What that shows is the problems and challenges that we’ve had, we’ve addressed. We have fixed. And we have turned it around, and we’re on the home stretch, and we’re moving towards that line, and then we need to keep going beyond it.
“Because I believe Australia can achieve much higher vaccination rates than the 70 and 80 per cent that we’ve set out in the national plan and that will only give us greater confidence and enable us to move even more quickly as we open the country up.”
“…Now Australians are beginning to get their lives back. The things that have been taken from them, because of this awful pandemic, the ability of Australians to come together, Australians to spend time with one another, to do business, to be together with family, to go to weddings, to go to funerals. All of these times so precious.
“And these times are now being restored. Because of the vaccination rates hitting the levels that we’ve needed them to, as set out in the scientific work that has been done by the Doherty Institute.”
————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100519376Where’s the spin in that? He does underplay the fuck up in getting doses out but the rest is just current figures and a statement that eventually things have to get back to some form of normality, and is citing the Doherty Institute as his scientific source.
“…Now Australians are beginning to get their lives back. The things that have been taken from them, because of this awful pandemic, the ability of Australians to come together, Australians to spend time with one another, to do business, to be together with family, to go to weddings, to go to funerals. All of these times so precious.
—————————————
Nope, not “if we do this carefully and methodically, keeping our masks on when we can’t socially distance adequately and keeping up the personal hygiene” but that chest-beating stuff above. Nope, that’s not spin up there. Not at all.
As for the Doherty Institute citations (regularly, you might note) – that’s his get out of jail card. Not spin, not one iota. Not at all.
And Doherty is the selected modelling. Gutwein has instigated modelling for tassie based on tassie. (we are more spread out, less high rise vs an already stressed medical system…)
Gutwein
buffy said:
The Mount Gambier case is looking very, very odd. She seems to be the only one positive. And there are no exposure sites for Casterton and the only one listed for Mount Gambier is for a truckie, not the lady.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/mount-gambier-hopes-covid-19-restrictions-may-be-eased/100520186
Maybe she went to Casterton to meet with somebody from somewhere else, maybe to purchase something (cough). And did meet without admitting it.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
The Mount Gambier case is looking very, very odd. She seems to be the only one positive. And there are no exposure sites for Casterton and the only one listed for Mount Gambier is for a truckie, not the lady.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/mount-gambier-hopes-covid-19-restrictions-may-be-eased/100520186
Maybe she went to Casterton to meet with somebody from somewhere else, maybe to purchase something (cough). And did meet without admitting it.
Supposedly visiting family in Casterton. I don’t see how you could do that without going to the bakery…
:)
buffy said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:
The Mount Gambier case is looking very, very odd. She seems to be the only one positive. And there are no exposure sites for Casterton and the only one listed for Mount Gambier is for a truckie, not the lady.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/mount-gambier-hopes-covid-19-restrictions-may-be-eased/100520186
Maybe she went to Casterton to meet with somebody from somewhere else, maybe to purchase something (cough). And did meet without admitting it.
Supposedly visiting family in Casterton. I don’t see how you could do that without going to the bakery…
:)
I think she weighs more than a duck.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:Where’s the spin in that? He does underplay the fuck up in getting doses out but the rest is just current figures and a statement that eventually things have to get back to some form of normality, and is citing the Doherty Institute as his scientific source.
“…Now Australians are beginning to get their lives back. The things that have been taken from them, because of this awful pandemic, the ability of Australians to come together, Australians to spend time with one another, to do business, to be together with family, to go to weddings, to go to funerals. All of these times so precious.
—————————————
Nope, not “if we do this carefully and methodically, keeping our masks on when we can’t socially distance adequately and keeping up the personal hygiene” but that chest-beating stuff above. Nope, that’s not spin up there. Not at all.
As for the Doherty Institute citations (regularly, you might note) – that’s his get out of jail card. Not spin, not one iota. Not at all.
And Doherty is the selected modelling. Gutwein has instigated modelling for tassie based on tassie. (we are more spread out, less high rise vs an already stressed medical system…)
Gutwein
yeah we thought the Doherty modelling was not only flawed, but it didn’t even say what the politicians claimed
guess everyone will just have to do their bit and get the message out that you keep that N95+ mask on anywhere near others
id est the selfish 80% won’t
Here are the definitions and stuff for going into Eventide (Lutheran) at Hamilton. Many of my patients have been very happy living there.
http://www.eventide.org.au/index.php?page=fees
Michael V said:
“…Now Australians are beginning to get their lives back. The things that have been taken from them, because of this awful pandemic, the ability of Australians to come together, Australians to spend time with one another, to do business, to be together with family, to go to weddings, to go to funerals. All of these times so precious.
to be fair, what’s a few extra thousands of funerals for Australians to go to each year, funerals are good for The Economy Must Grow you know
Sorry, missed the thread by that much…
I wonder how far NSW is straying from ‘the modelling’ now.
The Prime Minister says the states have had 18 months to ready themselves for COVID-19 surges in hospitals, and any struggling with the strain have failed to manage the problem.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison said he had handed out enough cash, and states not ready had failed to prepare.
“You’ve got to prepare for what’s coming,” Mr Morrison said.
“The pandemic has been running a long time now.
“The work that needs to be done frankly should’ve been done for the last 18 months.”
What
The
Fuck
Irony truly is fucking dead and buried and COVID-19ed and ICACed.
Sorry we mean gaslighting.
“New South Wales and Victoria have been able to plan for the COVID surge, they’re in the middle of it, they have the same funding arrangements as any other state and territory, but they’re dealing with it,” he said.
“So this isn’t about funding. This is about management of hospital systems.
“We’re seeing stresses on hospital systems in other states and territories which have nothing to do with COVID.”
What
The
Fuck
Well yeah, other states want to keep providing usual care to their residents, that does seem to be about management of hospital systems.
SCIENCE said:
The Prime Minister says the states have had 18 months to ready themselves for COVID-19 surges in hospitals, and any struggling with the strain have failed to manage the problem.Prime Minister Scott Morrison said he had handed out enough cash, and states not ready had failed to prepare.
“You’ve got to prepare for what’s coming,” Mr Morrison said.
“The pandemic has been running a long time now.
“The work that needs to be done frankly should’ve been done for the last 18 months.”
What
The
FuckIrony truly is fucking dead and buried and COVID-19ed and ICACed.
Sorry we mean gaslighting.
Yeah. Quarantine, hey.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
The Prime Minister says the states have had 18 months to ready themselves for COVID-19 surges in hospitals, and any struggling with the strain have failed to manage the problem.Prime Minister Scott Morrison said he had handed out enough cash, and states not ready had failed to prepare.
“You’ve got to prepare for what’s coming,” Mr Morrison said.
“The pandemic has been running a long time now.
“The work that needs to be done frankly should’ve been done for the last 18 months.”
What
The
FuckIrony truly is fucking dead and buried and COVID-19ed and ICACed.
Sorry we mean gaslighting.
Yeah. Quarantine, hey.
quarantine, vaccine is racism not a race, ventilation for schools and other workplaces …
Covid Protection Wanes Months After Second Shot, Studies Show
By Alisa Odenheimer and Robert Langreth
7 October 2021, 08:00 GMT+11
Results support boosters rolled out in U.S., U.K., Europe
Israel study finds immunity falls first quickly, then slowly
Immunity provided by the Covid-19 vaccine from partners Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE weakens significantly within months, with men having less protection than women, according to research that supports the use of booster doses.
Protective antibodies decreased continuously during the six months after the administration of the second dose of the vaccine, according to a study of about 5,000 Israeli health workers, published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine. The levels fell first at a sharp pace and later at a more moderate one.
Researchers worldwide are trying to identify the critical threshold of antibodies needed to prevent coronavirus infection, severe illness and death, said Gili Regev-Yochay, one of the authors of the study. Such studies will help assess risk levels for various groups and the measures needed to protect them, the researcher said.
Antibody levels were found to be lower in older people than in younger, and in immunosuppressed individuals compared to the healthy population, according to the study from Sheba Medical Center in Ramat Gan. Men’s antibody counts were lower than those of women both at their peak and at the end of the study.
The research shows why there are breakthrough infections in individuals who have had two vaccine doses, Regev-Yochay said in an online press briefing. The U.S., which has restricted its booster recommendation to older people and other vulnerable groups, will likely follow Israel’s decision to offer a third dose to the entire population, she said.
“I would be more than surprised if we are not going to start to see a lot of breakthrough infections in the United States,” among those who have received just two doses, Regev-Yochay said.
The Israel findings were bolstered by a second real-world study from Qatar, published in the same journal, that found the efficacy of the Pfizer-BioNTech shot faded over a similar time period. Protection fell from 77.5% during the first month after the second dose to 20% in months five to seven after the second dose.
Still, the research found, prevention of severe and fatal infections remained strong throughout the study period, reaching 96% in the first two months after the second dose and persisting at roughly this level for six months.
Consistent Data
“The data is consistent,” said Laith Abu-Raddad, a coauthor of the paper who studies infectious disease epidemiology at Weill Cornell Medicine-Qatar. “Protection against hospitalization and death is really strong and more durable than protection against infection.” Giving a third booster shot helps optimize the protection from the vaccine, he said.
Two other studies from Israel published in the journal also followed up on early reports of heart inflammation following vaccination. Cases of inflammation, called myocarditis, although rare, increased after the receipt of the vaccine, according to one study by the Israeli Health Ministry and Hadassah Hebrew University Medical Center, particularly after the second dose among young male recipients. While cases were usually mild, one was fatal.
Another study by the Clalit Health Services, the largest health-care system in the country, found that the estimated incidence of myocarditis was 2.13 cases per 100,000 persons. The highest incidence was among male patients between the ages of 16 and 29. Most of the cases were mild or moderate.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-06/covid-protection-wanes-months-after-second-shot-studies-show
Witty Rejoinder said:
Covid Protection Wanes Months After Second Shot, Studies Show
Lucky it wasn’t a race here so everyone is recently vaccinated except essential frontline workers ¡
Victorian police officer at anti-lockdown protest hospitalised with COVID-19.
A number of officers who were on duty during last month’s violent protests in Melbourne have tested positive to COVID-19, the Victorian Police Association says.
The association said one officer who was taken to hospital this morning is currently receiving support to breathe.
Police Association Secretary Wayne Gatt said around 25 members from an inner-city station have been linked to the positive case and are isolating.
“As case numbers come up and our members continue to operate freely in the community, they are at greater risk than many other workers,” Mr Gatt said.
The association wouldn’t confirm if any of those officers had been vaccinated.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100519376
“If you’ve got a two-week holiday, you then don’t want to be quarantined for a week or two weeks after that at home.”
Mr Bunnik said Australia was at least six months behind countries like the United States and United Kingdom, which largely rely on vaccination and negative test results rather than mandatory quarantine for travellers.
What
The
Fuck
we mean, how’s that going for them
While the advantages of home over hotel quarantine are obvious, Professor Toby Walsh from UNSW is among those concerned about the use of facial recognition and geolocation technology to monitor compliance. Participants in the home quarantine trials are being checked at random times through a smartphone app. “This is a slippery slope. We’re seeing increasing uses of face recognition software and I’m worried that this will legitimise the use of facial recognition software,” he told 7.30. “I think we only have to look to places like China to see where this could take us.”
Yes, towards elimination. Pity some “experts” prefer to use bioterrorism as a means of crowd control instead of recognising someone by their face, or finding out where they are.
—
Professor Walsh said the government should have more faith in its citizens. “I just believe this is buying us a false sense of security,” he said. “Sometimes I think we use technology as a crutch. Why is it not the case that we can trust people to do the right thing, subject to suitable penalties and fines if they don’t?”
Oh sure, let’s say you trust your citizens, how do you then verify that they are doing the right thing, and be able to enforce suitable penalties and fines if they don’t¿
wait
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/home-quarantine-trial-in-states-travel-industry-critics/100518162“If you’ve got a two-week holiday, you then don’t want to be quarantined for a week or two weeks after that at home.”
Mr Bunnik said Australia was at least six months behind countries like the United States and United Kingdom, which largely rely on vaccination and negative test results rather than mandatory quarantine for travellers.
What
The
Fuckwe mean, how’s that going for them
way behind on the death tally, covid sequelae, orphans, and more broadly grief from premature death, so very backward that way
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/home-quarantine-trial-in-states-travel-industry-critics/100518162“If you’ve got a two-week holiday, you then don’t want to be quarantined for a week or two weeks after that at home.”
Mr Bunnik said Australia was at least six months behind countries like the United States and United Kingdom, which largely rely on vaccination and negative test results rather than mandatory quarantine for travellers.
What
The
Fuckwe mean, how’s that going for them
way behind on the death tally, covid sequelae, orphans, and more broadly grief from premature death, so very backward that way
probably should add all the unnatural death, variously suffering from isolation and troubles of the contagiousness of contagion
and stress on hospitals and staff, and paramedics, disruption to normal delivery of medical services
yeah Australia could be the most backward country on the planet, a shameful performance
transition said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
“If you’ve got a two-week holiday, you then don’t want to be quarantined for a week or two weeks after that at home.”
Mr Bunnik said Australia was at least six months behind countries like the United States and United Kingdom, which largely rely on vaccination and negative test results rather than mandatory quarantine for travellers.
What
The
Fuckwe mean, how’s that going for them
way behind on the death tally, covid sequelae, orphans, and more broadly grief from premature death, so very backward that way
probably should add all the unnatural death, variously suffering from isolation and troubles of the contagiousness of contagion
and stress on hospitals and staff, and paramedics, disruption to normal delivery of medical services
yeah Australia could be the most backward country on the planet, a shameful performance
no but seriously
we get that Australia is some convict backwater, trails best practice by 6 months, is 6 months behind others in picking up the moves
why does it have to be 6 months behind, and still pick up the worst role models
Witty Rejoinder said:
Covid Protection Wanes Months After Second Shot, Studies Show
By Alisa Odenheimer and Robert Langreth
7 October 2021, 08:00 GMT+11 Results support boosters rolled out in U.S., U.K., Europe Israel study finds immunity falls first quickly, then slowlyImmunity provided by the Covid-19 vaccine from partners Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE weakens significantly within months, with men having less protection than women, according to research that supports the use of booster doses.
Protective antibodies decreased continuously during the six months after the administration of the second dose of the vaccine, according to a study of about 5,000 Israeli health workers, published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine. The levels fell first at a sharp pace and later at a more moderate one.
Researchers worldwide are trying to identify the critical threshold of antibodies needed to prevent coronavirus infection, severe illness and death, said Gili Regev-Yochay, one of the authors of the study. Such studies will help assess risk levels for various groups and the measures needed to protect them, the researcher said.
Antibody levels were found to be lower in older people than in younger, and in immunosuppressed individuals compared to the healthy population, according to the study from Sheba Medical Center in Ramat Gan. Men’s antibody counts were lower than those of women both at their peak and at the end of the study.
The research shows why there are breakthrough infections in individuals who have had two vaccine doses, Regev-Yochay said in an online press briefing. The U.S., which has restricted its booster recommendation to older people and other vulnerable groups, will likely follow Israel’s decision to offer a third dose to the entire population, she said.
“I would be more than surprised if we are not going to start to see a lot of breakthrough infections in the United States,” among those who have received just two doses, Regev-Yochay said.
The Israel findings were bolstered by a second real-world study from Qatar, published in the same journal, that found the efficacy of the Pfizer-BioNTech shot faded over a similar time period. Protection fell from 77.5% during the first month after the second dose to 20% in months five to seven after the second dose.
Still, the research found, prevention of severe and fatal infections remained strong throughout the study period, reaching 96% in the first two months after the second dose and persisting at roughly this level for six months.
Consistent Data
“The data is consistent,” said Laith Abu-Raddad, a coauthor of the paper who studies infectious disease epidemiology at Weill Cornell Medicine-Qatar. “Protection against hospitalization and death is really strong and more durable than protection against infection.” Giving a third booster shot helps optimize the protection from the vaccine, he said.Two other studies from Israel published in the journal also followed up on early reports of heart inflammation following vaccination. Cases of inflammation, called myocarditis, although rare, increased after the receipt of the vaccine, according to one study by the Israeli Health Ministry and Hadassah Hebrew University Medical Center, particularly after the second dose among young male recipients. While cases were usually mild, one was fatal.
Another study by the Clalit Health Services, the largest health-care system in the country, found that the estimated incidence of myocarditis was 2.13 cases per 100,000 persons. The highest incidence was among male patients between the ages of 16 and 29. Most of the cases were mild or moderate.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-06/covid-protection-wanes-months-after-second-shot-studies-show
Thanks for that. That clears things up a lot.
mollwollfumble said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Covid Protection Wanes Months After Second Shot, Studies Show
By Alisa Odenheimer and Robert Langreth
7 October 2021, 08:00 GMT+11 Results support boosters rolled out in U.S., U.K., Europe Israel study finds immunity falls first quickly, then slowlyImmunity provided by the Covid-19 vaccine from partners Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE weakens significantly within months, with men having less protection than women, according to research that supports the use of booster doses.
Protective antibodies decreased continuously during the six months after the administration of the second dose of the vaccine, according to a study of about 5,000 Israeli health workers, published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine. The levels fell first at a sharp pace and later at a more moderate one.
Researchers worldwide are trying to identify the critical threshold of antibodies needed to prevent coronavirus infection, severe illness and death, said Gili Regev-Yochay, one of the authors of the study. Such studies will help assess risk levels for various groups and the measures needed to protect them, the researcher said.
Antibody levels were found to be lower in older people than in younger, and in immunosuppressed individuals compared to the healthy population, according to the study from Sheba Medical Center in Ramat Gan. Men’s antibody counts were lower than those of women both at their peak and at the end of the study.
The research shows why there are breakthrough infections in individuals who have had two vaccine doses, Regev-Yochay said in an online press briefing. The U.S., which has restricted its booster recommendation to older people and other vulnerable groups, will likely follow Israel’s decision to offer a third dose to the entire population, she said.
“I would be more than surprised if we are not going to start to see a lot of breakthrough infections in the United States,” among those who have received just two doses, Regev-Yochay said.
The Israel findings were bolstered by a second real-world study from Qatar, published in the same journal, that found the efficacy of the Pfizer-BioNTech shot faded over a similar time period. Protection fell from 77.5% during the first month after the second dose to 20% in months five to seven after the second dose.
Still, the research found, prevention of severe and fatal infections remained strong throughout the study period, reaching 96% in the first two months after the second dose and persisting at roughly this level for six months.
Consistent Data
“The data is consistent,” said Laith Abu-Raddad, a coauthor of the paper who studies infectious disease epidemiology at Weill Cornell Medicine-Qatar. “Protection against hospitalization and death is really strong and more durable than protection against infection.” Giving a third booster shot helps optimize the protection from the vaccine, he said.Two other studies from Israel published in the journal also followed up on early reports of heart inflammation following vaccination. Cases of inflammation, called myocarditis, although rare, increased after the receipt of the vaccine, according to one study by the Israeli Health Ministry and Hadassah Hebrew University Medical Center, particularly after the second dose among young male recipients. While cases were usually mild, one was fatal.
Another study by the Clalit Health Services, the largest health-care system in the country, found that the estimated incidence of myocarditis was 2.13 cases per 100,000 persons. The highest incidence was among male patients between the ages of 16 and 29. Most of the cases were mild or moderate.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-06/covid-protection-wanes-months-after-second-shot-studies-show
Thanks for that. That clears things up a lot.
They don’t mention AZ vaccine?
Slap a fine on that man for not wearing his mask properly.
VIC: 1,838 new cases, 5 deaths.
Highest daily case count for a state or territory throughout the entire pandemic.
:(
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-08/victoria-covid-cases-october-8/100522902
Michael V said:
VIC: 1,838 new cases, 5 deaths.Highest daily case count for a state or territory throughout the entire pandemic.
:(
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-08/victoria-covid-cases-october-8/100522902
I think the NSW strain hit at just as Victorians were over the whole lockdown thing :(
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:
VIC: 1,838 new cases, 5 deaths.Highest daily case count for a state or territory throughout the entire pandemic.
:(
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-08/victoria-covid-cases-october-8/100522902
I think the NSW strain hit at just as Victorians were over the whole lockdown thing :(
Yeah. A lot of lockdown fatigue around here.
roughbarked said:
Slap a fine on that man for not wearing his mask properly.
why ¿ That’s the Australian Way to behave in front of a strong female leader, have your dick hanging out
For our psychopathic balance post today we give you
abortion of a single Down syndrome fetus is a tragedy but exposing millions of children to a preventable infectious disease that causes neurological damage and more death than influenza measles mumps rubella diphtheria tetanus pertussis poliomyelitis smallpox is good for The Economy Must Grow ¡
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:
VIC: 1,838 new cases, 5 deaths.Highest daily case count for a state or territory throughout the entire pandemic.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-08/victoria-covid-cases-october-8/100522902
I think the NSW strain hit at just as Victorians were over the whole lockdown thing :(
We were actually out of most of the lockdown restrictions, but only just, when delta rode through on a delivery van.
We had tasted FREEDOM.
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:
Michael V said:
VIC: 1,838 new cases, 5 deaths.Highest daily case count for a state or territory throughout the entire pandemic.
:(
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-08/victoria-covid-cases-october-8/100522902
I think the NSW strain hit at just as Victorians were over the whole lockdown thing :(
We were actually out of most of the lockdown restrictions, but only just, when delta rode through on a delivery van.
We had tasted FREEDOM.
Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose…
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:I think the NSW strain hit at just as Victorians were over the whole lockdown thing :(
We were actually out of most of the lockdown restrictions, but only just, when delta rode through on a delivery van.
We had tasted FREEDOM.
Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose…
Free Dom Perrottet
“I actually think she gets more out of an hour or two at home a day, one-on-one with me, than she would out of a week at school,” Aria’s mum, Sabrina Blundell, said.
Sibeen St Columba’s student in the news:
https://www.9news.com.au/national/melbourne-teen-in-icu-with-covid19-after-attending-illegal-16th-birthday-party/04718341-0507-49d0-8223-794dd1f69235
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
Dark Orange said:I think the NSW strain hit at just as Victorians were over the whole lockdown thing :(
We were actually out of most of the lockdown restrictions, but only just, when delta rode through on a delivery van.
We had tasted FREEDOM.
Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose…
Janis!
SCIENCE said:
“I actually think she gets more out of an hour or two at home a day, one-on-one with me, than she would out of a week at school,” Aria’s mum, Sabrina Blundell, said.
There’s a good deal of privilege swirling beneath that story.
And, to be brutal about it, the schools are probably not entirely unhappy to not have some of those kids in their classes.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Sibeen St Columba’s student in the news:https://www.9news.com.au/national/melbourne-teen-in-icu-with-covid19-after-attending-illegal-16th-birthday-party/04718341-0507-49d0-8223-794dd1f69235
A Melbourne teenager is battling COVID-19 in ICU after attending an illegal 16th birthday party. Year 10 students from St Columba’s College in Essendon and pupils from two other local schools appear to be among those who breached COVID-19 restrictions by attending the event which has been linked to positive cases. It is not known which school the teenager who is in ICU attends. In a letter to parents obtained by 9News, St Columba’s College principal Rita Grima reminded families that household gatherings were not permitted under the Chief Health Officer’s directions.
Imagine public health orders and restrictions on “FREEDOM” that actually free people up for better health and thereby better freedom when (if) they can get their shit together and eliminate a highly infectious, highly virulent disease.
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Sibeen St Columba’s student in the news:https://www.9news.com.au/national/melbourne-teen-in-icu-with-covid19-after-attending-illegal-16th-birthday-party/04718341-0507-49d0-8223-794dd1f69235
A Melbourne teenager is battling COVID-19 in ICU after attending an illegal 16th birthday party. Year 10 students from St Columba’s College in Essendon and pupils from two other local schools appear to be among those who breached COVID-19 restrictions by attending the event which has been linked to positive cases. It is not known which school the teenager who is in ICU attends. In a letter to parents obtained by 9News, St Columba’s College principal Rita Grima reminded families that household gatherings were not permitted under the Chief Health Officer’s directions.
Imagine public health orders and restrictions on “FREEDOM” that actually free people up for better health and thereby better freedom when (if) they can get their shit together and eliminate a highly infectious, highly virulent disease.
That horse has bolted I’m afraid.
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Sibeen St Columba’s student in the news:
https://www.9news.com.au/national/melbourne-teen-in-icu-with-covid19-after-attending-illegal-16th-birthday-party/04718341-0507-49d0-8223-794dd1f69235
A Melbourne teenager is battling COVID-19 in ICU after attending an illegal 16th birthday party. Year 10 students from St Columba’s College in Essendon and pupils from two other local schools appear to be among those who breached COVID-19 restrictions by attending the event which has been linked to positive cases. It is not known which school the teenager who is in ICU attends. In a letter to parents obtained by 9News, St Columba’s College principal Rita Grima reminded families that household gatherings were not permitted under the Chief Health Officer’s directions.
Imagine public health orders and restrictions on “FREEDOM” that actually free people up for better health and thereby better freedom when (if) they can get their shit together and eliminate a highly infectious, highly virulent disease.
That horse has bolted I’m afraid.
Right but apparently those students are eliminating themselves so we can let that happen to them while protecting everyone else, and continue to find ways to minimally, then gently, then slightly, then somewhat, then fairly, then more, then rather, then quite, then significantly, then strongly, then maximally, then completely suppress a highly infectious, highly virulent disease, until we realise that complete suppression is just elimination by another name.
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Sibeen St Columba’s student in the news:
In other words, ‘f***ing wake up to yourselves, people. Sure, your girl goes to an expensive posh school, but your school fees don’t buy immunity from disease. She’s a germ-laden little ambulatory pus-bucket, just like the State school kids. And so are her friends’.
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Sibeen St Columba’s student in the news:
In other words, ‘f***ing wake up to yourselves, people. Sure, your girl goes to an expensive posh school, but your school fees don’t buy immunity from disease. She’s a germ-laden little ambulatory pus-bucket, just like the State school kids. And so are her friends.
LOLOLOLOL
In Highly Educated Socialist Sweden, Money Talks More Than Educated Talk
At Least One WA Epidemiologist Thinks That NSW Strategy Is Stupid
but to be fair maybe most of the public are on edge enough that it will be a slow motion crash
SCIENCE said:
In Highly Educated Socialist Sweden, Money Talks More Than Educated Talk
joking aside here you go
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm0475
Stalling COVID-19 vaccination rates threaten public health. To increase vaccination rates, governments across the globe are considering using monetary incentives. We present evidence on the effect of guaranteed payments on COVID-19 vaccination uptake. We ran a large pre-registered randomized controlled trial (N = 8,286) in Sweden and linked the data to population-wide administrative vaccination records. We found that modest monetary payments of $24 (SEK 200) increased vaccination rates by 4.2 percentage points (p = 0.005), from a baseline rate of 71.6%. In contrast, behavioral nudges increased stated intentions to vaccinate but had only small and not statistically significant impacts on vaccination rates. The results highlight the potential of modest monetary incentives to increase vaccination rates.
we mean fk imagine if people do stuff when you pay them to do it
The Economy Must Grow
89.4% of NSWailers have had the first jab which portends well for an eventual high vaccination rate when compared globally.
Witty Rejoinder said:
89.4% of NSWailers have had the first jab which portends well for an eventual high vaccination rate when compared globally.
Of over 16yos
SCIENCE said:
In Highly Educated Socialist Sweden, Money Talks More Than Educated Talk
What could we add as incentive
Pack of Winnie Blues or a six pack of Australian beer or a prison tattoo of the Southern Cross
Witty Rejoinder said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
89.4% of NSWailers have had the first jab which portends well for an eventual high vaccination rate when compared globally.
Of over 16yos
? so when they die of new and evasive variants over the next 16 years, leaving only under-32-year-olds, 0*% will be covered ¿
*: yes yes we know that some 12 to 16 year olds are shot
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
In Highly Educated Socialist Sweden, Money Talks More Than Educated Talk
What could we add as incentive
Pack of Winnie Blues or a six pack of Australian beer or a prison tattoo of the Southern Cross
maybe a handshake from a dear leader or some SMS thank you messages from a leading mining magnate
https://7news.com.au/politics/daniel-andrews/victorian-premier-caught-on-video-not-wearing-a-mask-in-public-sparking-police-probe—c-4180323
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
“I actually think she gets more out of an hour or two at home a day, one-on-one with me, than she would out of a week at school,” Aria’s mum, Sabrina Blundell, said.
There’s a good deal of privilege swirling beneath that story.
And, to be brutal about it, the schools are probably not entirely unhappy to not have some of those kids in their classes.
How Other Nations Pay for Child Care. The U.S. Is an Outlier.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/upshot/child-care-biden.html
sure but Crooked Hillary Is A Communist and what do you knowtice about those above average countries ¿ they’re all Socialism which is bad
Witty Rejoinder said:
so he was caught not wearing a mask just before his press conference which he does while not wearing a mask
and what, the penalty will be $200 that some anonymous trust will pay for him
something ¿ like that ? then
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:SCIENCE said:
“I actually think she gets more out of an hour or two at home a day, one-on-one with me, than she would out of a week at school,” Aria’s mum, Sabrina Blundell, said.
There’s a good deal of privilege swirling beneath that story.
And, to be brutal about it, the schools are probably not entirely unhappy to not have some of those kids in their classes.
How Other Nations Pay for Child Care. The U.S. Is an Outlier.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/upshot/child-care-biden.html
sure but Crooked Hillary Is A Communist and what do you knowtice about those above average countries ¿ they’re all Socialism which is bad
You forgot that amount combined with great wages for entry level workers is the compensation
NSW: 646 new local cases, 11 deaths.
QLD: Zero new cases, restrictions eased.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-08/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100522476
the ramification keep ramifying
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/a-us-hospital-is-preventing-unvaccinated-patients-from-receiving-organ-transplants/
Michael V said:
NSW: 646 new local cases, 11 deaths.QLD: Zero new cases, restrictions eased.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-08/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100522476
ACT: 40 new local cases.
lazy homeworkers
JudgeMental said:
the ramification keep ramifying
flock immunity then
I wonder if our dear leader has read the federal legislation regarding dealing with risks to health and safety:
- Identify hazards—find out what could cause harm.
- Assess risks, if necessary—understand the nature of the harm that could be caused
by the hazard, how serious the harm could be and the likelihood of it happening.
This step may not be necessary if you are dealing with a known risk with known
controls.
- Eliminate risks so far as is reasonably practicable.
- Control risks—if it is not reasonably practicable to eliminate the risk, implement the
most effective control measures that are reasonably practicable in the circumstances
in accordance with the hierarchy of control measures, and ensure they remain
effective over time.
- Review control measures to ensure they are working as planned
on the other hand just having a hospital system that is coping with COVID-19 by not providing usual care, but would be overwhelmed trying to deal with both, could prevent organ transplantation too
SCIENCE said:
lazy homeworkers
So 18-24 and 50+ groups are all pretty close to the national average, and 24-50 are the outliers.
but if we don’t try to kill off the NHS, then rich people won’t have unreasonable levels of health privilege
Witty Rejoinder said:
Sibeen St Columba’s student in the news:https://www.9news.com.au/national/melbourne-teen-in-icu-with-covid19-after-attending-illegal-16th-birthday-party/04718341-0507-49d0-8223-794dd1f69235
Got sent something from the school two days ago.
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
so he was caught not wearing a mask just before his press conference which he does while not wearing a mask
and what, the penalty will be $200 that some anonymous trust will pay for him
something ¿ like that ? then
ah fair and balanced journalism, thank you Your ABC, thank you
Victorian police are investigating whether Premier Daniel Andrews breached COVID-19 directions after he was filmed approaching journalists outside Parliament without a face mask. The footage was taken as Mr Andrews arrived at Parliament yesterday morning, and he immediately started fielding questions from the media before heading into the building.
Politicians and journalists are exempt from wearing masks while working to respond to questions at press conferences or communicate over broadcast mediums. “I had a brief look at the footage and it looks like he’s been approaching a camera … of course, you’re allowed not to wear your mask .”
if a premier would perjure an investigation into corruption, she’d be a victim of smear, poor her a premier of the people
if a premier is filmed not wearing a mask while answering questions for filming, he’s under criminal investigation by his own police state
? the hilarious bit ¿
that by filming him for the purposes of communicating this over a broadcast medium, and questioning him about it, they automatically make him exemptBooster shots of the COVID-19 vaccine will be available for severely immunocompromised people from next week
Advice on third doses for the general population is due later this month
Booster shots have been recommended to be given two to six months after a second dose
SCIENCE said:
Booster shots of the COVID-19 vaccine will be available for severely immunocompromised people from next weekAdvice on third doses for the general population is due later this month
Booster shots have been recommended to be given two to six months after a second dose
Goodo.
a bunch of snowflakes who just need to harden the fuck up, parents are for babies, time to Grow Up For The Economy Must Grow right now
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/10/07/covid-deaths-parents-children/
has anyone established yet if anything resembling permanent immunity is possible from present covid vaccines, given X amount of shots, three, four, whatever, or is it that the human immune system doesn’t maintain strong levels of antibodies or memory for that, or whatever (i’m not an immunologist, if someone didn’t guess), is it forever vaccinate against, and is that the problem isn’t so much just mutations of this coronavirus, but more immunity to that sort of virus fades quite rapidly
and if it fades why does it fade, is it that for some reason persistent high levels of antibodies to those type of virus hasn’t been adaptive? (of evolution)
shakes fist at Coalition Governments
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transition said:
has anyone established yet if anything resembling permanent immunity is possible from present covid vaccines, given X amount of shots, three, four, whatever, or is it that the human immune system doesn’t maintain strong levels of antibodies or memory for that, or whatever (i’m not an immunologist, if someone didn’t guess), is it forever vaccinate against, and is that the problem isn’t so much just mutations of this coronavirus, but more immunity to that sort of virus fades quite rapidlyand if it fades why does it fade, is it that for some reason persistent high levels of antibodies to those type of virus hasn’t been adaptive? (of evolution)
There seems to be tentative evidence that immunity lasts longer in the more traditional AZ jab than the newer mRNA type vaccines.
https://twitter.com/adamferrier/status/1446083459588313092
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transition said:
has anyone established yet if anything resembling permanent immunity is possible from present covid vaccines, given X amount of shots, three, four, whatever, or is it that the human immune system doesn’t maintain strong levels of antibodies or memory for that, or whatever (i’m not an immunologist, if someone didn’t guess), is it forever vaccinate against, and is that the problem isn’t so much just mutations of this coronavirus, but more immunity to that sort of virus fades quite rapidlyand if it fades why does it fade, is it that for some reason persistent high levels of antibodies to those type of virus hasn’t been adaptive? (of evolution)
apparently longer dosing intervals keep mRNA vaccines more effective than adenovirus vectorcines
anyway lest you think we only ever advance negativity in news here’s some that is probably relatively good
The first glimpse of what the 1,000-bed quarantine facility at Wellcamp Airport outside Toowoomba will look like has been revealed. Two months after building works began, the Queensland government says the facility is on track to have 500 beds operational by the end of December.
Mr Miles said the facility was expected to be completed by the end of March next year. At this stage, the cabins will be used by domestic travellers returning from COVID hotspots.
With home quarantine being trialled for a select number of returning Queenslanders next week, Mr Miles defended the need for the state’s second quarantine facility. “You will have heard the very strict criteria about who will qualify , so there will still continue to be people from hotspots who might need to go into more secure accommodation,” he said. “And people coming from other parts of the world where COVID continues to be rampant, where there might be new strains, where they might not have had access to vaccination.
Another 1,000-bed quarantine facility is being built in Queensland by the Commonwealth government on a 30-hectare Army barracks site in the industrial area of Pinkenba, near Brisbane Airport. It is expected to have 500 beds available from March next year.
SCIENCE said:
anyway lest you think we only ever advance negativity in news here’s some that is probably relatively goodThe first glimpse of what the 1,000-bed quarantine facility at Wellcamp Airport outside Toowoomba will look like has been revealed. Two months after building works began, the Queensland government says the facility is on track to have 500 beds operational by the end of December.
Mr Miles said the facility was expected to be completed by the end of March next year. At this stage, the cabins will be used by domestic travellers returning from COVID hotspots.
With home quarantine being trialled for a select number of returning Queenslanders next week, Mr Miles defended the need for the state’s second quarantine facility. “You will have heard the very strict criteria about who will qualify , so there will still continue to be people from hotspots who might need to go into more secure accommodation,” he said. “And people coming from other parts of the world where COVID continues to be rampant, where there might be new strains, where they might not have had access to vaccination.
Another 1,000-bed quarantine facility is being built in Queensland by the Commonwealth government on a 30-hectare Army barracks site in the industrial area of Pinkenba, near Brisbane Airport. It is expected to have 500 beds available from March next year.
It’ll be interesting to see how Mr. Marketing tries to claim credit for it all.
Two Victorians died yesterday of cardiac arrest because 000 was chockers, apparently.
Peak Warming Man said:
Two Victorians died yesterday of cardiac arrest because 000 was chockers, apparently.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Two Victorians died yesterday of cardiac arrest because 000 was chockers, apparently.
exactly, these folks should just fkn learn to live with it
wait
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/oct/07/its-an-economic-crisis-too-in-nsw-what-a-difference-a-new-premier-makes
Do the experiment!
Peak Warming Man said:
Two Victorians died yesterday of cardiac arrest because 000 was chockers, apparently.
the story continues, the incomplete pandemic, which apparently won’t be done until covid is endemic
work of the devil it is
heard what might have been a deception emanating from the electric rectangle tonight, no shortage of them, the momentum of the madness
vaccination was being sold on the hope it would give lifelong immunity
whatever, some people will be getting a live virus booster, from circulating virus, get your liberties back with some virus
the message I got from the electrified dispenser of mind viruses
VIC: 1,965 new local cases, five deaths.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-09/covid-blog-nsw-qld-vic-cases-vaccinations-press-conferences/100526130
JudgeMental said:
Contrition in a pollie seems rare these days.
This place went bananas with rage when Barnaby got caught.
JudgeMental said:
Seems fair enough to me.
… but what is a the Murdoch press saying about it?
Peak Warming Man said:
This place went bananas with rage when Barnaby got caught.
maybe because baaaanaby is an arsehole.
Peak Warming Man said:
This place went bananas with rage when Barnaby got caught.
Rightly so: B. Joyce had consistently positioned himself as “a conservative family man”, whilst bonking his assistant. I for one saw this as the height of hypocrisy.
“I’ll give you a funny story,” Mr Joyce said.
“I went into the Caltex service station. I was going to the airport, I forgot to get fuel for Vikki, filled the car up with fuel, went in, 30 seconds later, $200 it cost me because I didn’t wear one of these,” he said, brandishing a disposable mask on camera.
“But that’s life.”
Referencing the incident during the daily press conference with NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian on Tuesday, Deputy NSW Police Commissioner Gary Worboys said “that person was apologetic and cooperative with police and an infringement notice was issued”.
JudgeMental said:
“I’ll give you a funny story,” Mr Joyce said.“I went into the Caltex service station. I was going to the airport, I forgot to get fuel for Vikki, filled the car up with fuel, went in, 30 seconds later, $200 it cost me because I didn’t wear one of these,” he said, brandishing a disposable mask on camera.
“But that’s life.”
Referencing the incident during the daily press conference with NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian on Tuesday, Deputy NSW Police Commissioner Gary Worboys said “that person was apologetic and cooperative with police and an infringement notice was issued”.
I don’t even remember Barnaby getting pinged for not wearing a mask.
Michael V said:
VIC: 1,965 new local cases, five deaths.:(
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-09/covid-blog-nsw-qld-vic-cases-vaccinations-press-conferences/100526130
QLD: Zero new local cases. No deaths.
NSW: 580 new cases. Deaths not yet reported.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
VIC: 1,965 new local cases, five deaths.:(
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-09/covid-blog-nsw-qld-vic-cases-vaccinations-press-conferences/100526130
QLD: Zero new local cases. No deaths.
NSW: 580 new cases. Deaths not yet reported.
NSW: 580 new cases. 11 deaths.
:(
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
“I’ll give you a funny story,” Mr Joyce said.“I went into the Caltex service station. I was going to the airport, I forgot to get fuel for Vikki, filled the car up with fuel, went in, 30 seconds later, $200 it cost me because I didn’t wear one of these,” he said, brandishing a disposable mask on camera.
“But that’s life.”
Referencing the incident during the daily press conference with NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian on Tuesday, Deputy NSW Police Commissioner Gary Worboys said “that person was apologetic and cooperative with police and an infringement notice was issued”.
I don’t even remember Barnaby getting pinged for not wearing a mask.
…and you’re not that old…
JudgeMental said:
“I’ll give you a funny story,” Mr Joyce said.“I went into the Caltex service station. I was going to the airport, I forgot to get fuel for Vikki, filled the car up with fuel, went in, 30 seconds later, $200 it cost me because I didn’t wear one of these,” he said, brandishing a disposable mask on camera.
“But that’s life.”
Referencing the incident during the daily press conference with NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian on Tuesday, Deputy NSW Police Commissioner Gary Worboys said “that person was apologetic and cooperative with police and an infringement notice was issued”.
Now Do Dan’s Conferencing Without Making
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
“I’ll give you a funny story,” Mr Joyce said.“I went into the Caltex service station. I was going to the airport, I forgot to get fuel for Vikki, filled the car up with fuel, went in, 30 seconds later, $200 it cost me because I didn’t wear one of these,” he said, brandishing a disposable mask on camera.
“But that’s life.”
Referencing the incident during the daily press conference with NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian on Tuesday, Deputy NSW Police Commissioner Gary Worboys said “that person was apologetic and cooperative with police and an infringement notice was issued”.
I don’t even remember Barnaby getting pinged for not wearing a mask.
The bus was standing room only when that happened.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
VIC: 1,965 new local cases, five deaths.:(
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-09/covid-blog-nsw-qld-vic-cases-vaccinations-press-conferences/100526130
QLD: Zero new local cases. No deaths.
NSW: 580 new cases. Deaths not yet reported.
NSW: 580 new cases. 11 deaths.
:(
And NSW has a new strain of Delta-COVID to deal with. Apparently jumped from hotel quarantine.
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
“I’ll give you a funny story,” Mr Joyce said.“I went into the Caltex service station. I was going to the airport, I forgot to get fuel for Vikki, filled the car up with fuel, went in, 30 seconds later, $200 it cost me because I didn’t wear one of these,” he said, brandishing a disposable mask on camera.
“But that’s life.”
Referencing the incident during the daily press conference with NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian on Tuesday, Deputy NSW Police Commissioner Gary Worboys said “that person was apologetic and cooperative with police and an infringement notice was issued”.
I don’t even remember Barnaby getting pinged for not wearing a mask.
…and you’re not that old…
I am native to decimal currency and the metric system :)
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:QLD: Zero new local cases. No deaths.
NSW: 580 new cases. Deaths not yet reported.
NSW: 580 new cases. 11 deaths.
:(
And NSW has a new strain of Delta-COVID to deal with. Apparently jumped from hotel quarantine.
no need to worry about that any more soon, leave it to the home quarantine problem
“what do you mean mismanaged ¿ It’s their own fault for being at home with other people to spread it to”
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:I don’t even remember Barnaby getting pinged for not wearing a mask.
…and you’re not that old…
I am native to decimal currency and the metric system :)
I remember groats. not literally.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
This place went bananas with rage when Barnaby got caught.
Rightly so: B. Joyce had consistently positioned himself as “a conservative family man”, whilst bonking his assistant. I for one saw this as the height of hypocrisy.
Oh, I didn’t realise that you were talking about masks. Apologies.
I don’t remember people here going bananas. Perhaps you are confusing us with news articles and their comments.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
“I’ll give you a funny story,” Mr Joyce said.“I went into the Caltex service station. I was going to the airport, I forgot to get fuel for Vikki, filled the car up with fuel, went in, 30 seconds later, $200 it cost me because I didn’t wear one of these,” he said, brandishing a disposable mask on camera.
“But that’s life.”
Referencing the incident during the daily press conference with NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian on Tuesday, Deputy NSW Police Commissioner Gary Worboys said “that person was apologetic and cooperative with police and an infringement notice was issued”.
I don’t even remember Barnaby getting pinged for not wearing a mask.
The bus was standing room only when that happened.
It’s another Billie Eilish thing. The whole world went mad about her but I never even heard of her till people here started talking about her winning the JJJ Hottest 100.
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Contrition in a pollie seems rare these days.
we mean politically it seems a smart move in this case, but isn’t this the Gutless Christian Binchicken Porter move, oh they’re investigating, better jump the gun and take the hit first
although in this case you get the feeling that he might know a bit more than that, probably anticipates donating rather than getting fined
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
This place went bananas with rage when Barnaby got caught.
Rightly so: B. Joyce had consistently positioned himself as “a conservative family man”, whilst bonking his assistant. I for one saw this as the height of hypocrisy.
Oh, I didn’t realise that you were talking about masks. Apologies.
I don’t remember people here going bananas. Perhaps you are confusing us with news articles and their comments.
LOL, you give PWM to much credit. He is just being his usual RWNJ self.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
This place went bananas with rage when Barnaby got caught.
Rightly so: B. Joyce had consistently positioned himself as “a conservative family man”, whilst bonking his assistant. I for one saw this as the height of hypocrisy.
Oh, I didn’t realise that you were talking about masks. Apologies.
I don’t remember people here going bananas. Perhaps you are confusing us with news articles and their comments.
barrier protection, barrier protection, same thing
This case could end up being interesting. If “Duty of Care” is pursued, it could have ramifications about businesses mandating vaccinations for workers and site-attending customers/visitors.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-08/workers-raise-safety-concerns-over-serco-worker-covid-death/100521852
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
“I’ll give you a funny story,” Mr Joyce said.“I went into the Caltex service station. I was going to the airport, I forgot to get fuel for Vikki, filled the car up with fuel, went in, 30 seconds later, $200 it cost me because I didn’t wear one of these,” he said, brandishing a disposable mask on camera.
“But that’s life.”
Referencing the incident during the daily press conference with NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian on Tuesday, Deputy NSW Police Commissioner Gary Worboys said “that person was apologetic and cooperative with police and an infringement notice was issued”.
I don’t even remember Barnaby getting pinged for not wearing a mask.
Neither do I. But apparently he wasn’t lining up to do a press conference at the time he forgot to put his mask on.
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:I don’t even remember Barnaby getting pinged for not wearing a mask.
The bus was standing room only when that happened.
It’s another Billie Eilish thing. The whole world went mad about her but I never even heard of her till people here started talking about her winning the JJJ Hottest 100.
You must be heading down the path I’ve taken in life.
:)
“AMA ‘disappointed’ by GPs’ decision to withdraw services from Mid West aged care homes over compulsory vaccinations.
The head of the Australian Medical Association in Western Australia says patients have ‘every right’ to ask whether the doctor they are seeing has been vaccinated against COVID-19 after a mid-west GP withdrew their services at an aged care facility over mandatory vaccination.
Nazareth Care confirmed one doctor who visits their residential aged care home in Geraldton had told them they would not be seeing patients.
The ABC understands another facility has also had a GP withdraw their service.
“The GP advised us that they would not be able to continue to service the residents at Nazareth House, Geraldton because they would not be having a vaccination,” Nazareth Care Australasian chief executive David Cotter said.”
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I’m quite sure I’d not want medicos with that attitude treating me or anybody else. Good riddance.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-09/covid-blog-nsw-qld-vic-cases-vaccinations-press-conferences/100526130
And in today’s Sweden Stalk…they are now at place number 50 in deaths per million on the Worldometers table.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Seems the Fins have joined in now on the Moderna caution.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/finland-pauses-use-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-young-men-2021-10-07/
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/us/coronavirus-briefing-what-happened-today.html
#NotAllBoosters
NSW next month
Good News: They Don’t Die And This Estimate Is For Less Than 10% LongCOVID
possibly actually useful
(vector form at link)
https://www.immunology.org/sites/default/files/BSI_UKCIC_resource_NaturalvVaccineImmunity.pdf
oops image missing here it is
pity about our kids who will have to live with LongCOVID for 80 years 50 years before dying of a heart attack they wouldn’t otherwise have had
Good News ¡ Chronic Disease After Mild Head Cold Is Just Mild Hayfever Or Some Other Allergy, Antihistamines* Will Fix It
https://jim.bmj.com/content/early/2021/10/05/jim-2021-002051
*: but if you want to try stainkiller or malariakiller or wormkiller then your call, your freedoms
SCIENCE said:
NSW next month
Interesting, thanks.
oh well it could be worse yet, Australia could be like another part of the empire
give it oh … 5 months
lucky there’s an election coming up, but you watch this ^ happen when the same corruption gets back in
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Contrition in a pollie seems rare these days.
we mean politically it seems a smart move in this case, but isn’t this the Gutless Christian Binchicken Porter move, oh they’re investigating, better jump the gun and take the hit first
although in this case you get the feeling that he might know a bit more than that, probably anticipates donating rather than getting fined
SCIENCE said:
oh well it could be worse yet, Australia could be like another part of the empire
give it oh … 5 months
lucky there’s an election coming up, but you watch this ^ happen when the same corruption gets back in
For context:
https://www.cp24.com/news/ford-government-orders-agencies-to-stop-giving-parents-community-groups-rapid-covid-19-tests-1.5605146
Impeding what choices?
SCIENCE said:
oh well it could be worse yet, Australia could be like another part of the empire
give it oh … 5 months
lucky there’s an election coming up, but you watch this ^ happen when the same corruption gets back in
What’s C and what’s T?
Kingy said:
SCIENCE said:
oh well it could be worse yet, Australia could be like another part of the empire
give it oh … 5 months
lucky there’s an election coming up, but you watch this ^ happen when the same corruption gets back in
What’s C and what’s T?
Control line and Test result line…
furious said:
Kingy said:
SCIENCE said:
oh well it could be worse yet, Australia could be like another part of the empire
give it oh … 5 months
lucky there’s an election coming up, but you watch this ^ happen when the same corruption gets back in
What’s C and what’s T?
Control line and Test result line…
Thank you.
I thought the C was Coronavirus, and the T was something else that I didn’t know.
Laugh Out Loud What The Fuck ¿
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.06.21264467v1
Our data confirm that COVID-19 in UK school-aged children is usually of short duration and similar symptom burden, whether due to Delta or Alpha.
refer to the speaker please
VIC: 1,890 new cases, five deaths.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-10/covid-live-updates-nsw-victoria-lockdown-new-cases/100526896
well looks like they’ve successfully confirmed changed the narrative amongst the media panderers
there you go, it’s all about business risk and vaccine choice, that’s the problem, at least in the past people pretended to be concerned about health
NSW has recorded it lowest daily number of locally acquired COVID-19 cases in nearly two months.
The state recorded 477 new COVID-19 infections and six death in the 24 hours to 8:00pm yesterday.
It’s the lowest daily number of new COVID-19 cases since NSW recorded 452 on August 17.
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Sure, convince us then — how many tests ¿
SCIENCE said:
NSW has recorded it lowest daily number of locally acquired COVID-19 cases in nearly two months.The state recorded 477 new COVID-19 infections and six death in the 24 hours to 8:00pm yesterday.
It’s the lowest daily number of new COVID-19 cases since NSW recorded 452 on August 17.
—
Sure, convince us then — how many tests ¿
they are what you’d maybe call clinically established infections, a sample, that probably doesn’t represent much of the endemic proportion, the project being to have more non-clinical endemic numbers, unmeasured, a more casual business, more casual covid, it could be more rife of course
nature’s live virus booster vaccinators, circulating, but sshhh, just quietly
Mathematical model offers new insights into spread of epidemics
Mathematical models have been widely used to guide government decisions on the COVID-19 pandemic, from forecasting outcomes to even testing potential interventions.
more…
SCIENCE said:
NSW has recorded it lowest daily number of locally acquired COVID-19 cases in nearly two months.The state recorded 477 new COVID-19 infections and six death in the 24 hours to 8:00pm yesterday.
It’s the lowest daily number of new COVID-19 cases since NSW recorded 452 on August 17.
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Sure, convince us then — how many tests ¿
86,000 by the look of it.
https://twitter.com/NSWHealth/status/1446989973136179201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1446989973136179201%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.net.au%2Fnews%2F2021-10-10%2Fcovid-live-updates-nsw-victoria-lockdown-new-cases%2F100526896
ABC News:
‘COVID live updates: NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet warns state will ‘not get everything right’ ahead of easing of restrictions’
‘Some of you will die. Perhaps quite a number of you. Omelettes and eggs and all that. Sorry, that’s just how it has to be. Please refer all further complaints to the deity of your choice. Good luck to you all. Your Premier, signing off.’
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-10/covid-alert-for-melbourne-to-newcastle-virgin-flight/100527806
These lists are going to be enormous once the borders open. So far there are relatively few flights on the go.
GPs and pharmacists say they are facing a rise in harassment from anti-vaxxers including fake legal letters threatening to strip them of their indemnity unless they stop administering COVID vaccines to the public.
buffy said:
These lists are going to be enormous once the borders open. So far there are relatively few flights on the go.
Let It RRRRRip¡¡¡
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:These lists are going to be enormous once the borders open. So far there are relatively few flights on the go.
Let It RRRRRip¡¡¡
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:These lists are going to be enormous once the borders open. So far there are relatively few flights on the go.
Let It RRRRRip¡¡¡
Make sure to share it around.
Laugh Out Loud Well Fuck
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-10/does-anyone-know-where-inflation-is-heading/100526856
It’s unnerving watching economists arguing about something you’d think they would have figured out decades ago. I’m talking about inflation. At the moment, macroeconomists the world over are arguing about the recent uptick in inflation in places like the United States. They want to know what it means. Is it anything to worry about? Do we have the right tools to manage it? Will it damage our economies like it did in the 1970s? Or is it more like the inflation from the 1950s? It’s a huge topic. But let’s keep things simple.
Let me explain quickly what inflation is. Then I’ll show you why some economists think policymakers can’t forecast inflation very well, and why that’s a big problem.
Professor Goodhart told the forum the world was in an extraordinary situation at the moment because economists had “no general theory of inflation.” Come again? He said economists used to have two theories, but those theories had lost credibility.
So In Summary Colon Economics Is Not Scientific And Economists Have No Idea Comma But When They Say Let It Rip For The Economy Must Grow In A Pandemic We Should Listen To Them Instead Of The Health Experts Stop End
Laugh Out Loud
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud Well Fuckhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-10/does-anyone-know-where-inflation-is-heading/100526856
It’s unnerving watching economists arguing about something you’d think they would have figured out decades ago. I’m talking about inflation. At the moment, macroeconomists the world over are arguing about the recent uptick in inflation in places like the United States. They want to know what it means. Is it anything to worry about? Do we have the right tools to manage it? Will it damage our economies like it did in the 1970s? Or is it more like the inflation from the 1950s? It’s a huge topic. But let’s keep things simple.
Let me explain quickly what inflation is. Then I’ll show you why some economists think policymakers can’t forecast inflation very well, and why that’s a big problem.
Professor Goodhart told the forum the world was in an extraordinary situation at the moment because economists had “no general theory of inflation.” Come again? He said economists used to have two theories, but those theories had lost credibility.
So In Summary Colon Economics Is Not Scientific And Economists Have No Idea Comma But When They Say Let It Rip For The Economy Must Grow In A Pandemic We Should Listen To Them Instead Of The Health Experts Stop End
Laugh Out Loud
It takes something like this pandemic to remind us that Western society is still a lot more primitive than it thinks it is.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:Let It RRRRRip¡¡¡
Make sure to share it around.
It’ll be ok.
The 10,000 will presumably be invitees, which means they’ll be the ‘right’ people (i.e. rich people) and rich people don’t get ‘common’ ailments like COVID.
Just ask anyone in Sydney’s Eastern Suburbs.
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
Make sure to share it around.
It’ll be ok.
The 10,000 will presumably be invitees, which means they’ll be the ‘right’ people (i.e. rich people) and rich people don’t get ‘common’ ailments like COVID.
Just ask anyone in Sydney’s Eastern Suburbs.
Today’s Qld figures
Health experts are saying that they can almost eliminate the road toll if a max 10kph is enforced on the eastern seaboard.
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Make sure to share it around.
It’ll be ok.
The 10,000 will presumably be invitees, which means they’ll be the ‘right’ people (i.e. rich people) and rich people don’t get ‘common’ ailments like COVID.
Just ask anyone in Sydney’s Eastern Suburbs.
Today’s Qld figures
That’s because we’re all multi-millionaires up here.
Peak Warming Man said:
Health experts are saying that they can almost eliminate the road toll if a max 10kph is enforced on the eastern seaboard.
Finally, someone puts an end to the absurdity of ‘walking races’.
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud Well Fuckhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-10/does-anyone-know-where-inflation-is-heading/100526856
It’s unnerving watching economists arguing about something you’d think they would have figured out decades ago. I’m talking about inflation. At the moment, macroeconomists the world over are arguing about the recent uptick in inflation in places like the United States. They want to know what it means. Is it anything to worry about? Do we have the right tools to manage it? Will it damage our economies like it did in the 1970s? Or is it more like the inflation from the 1950s? It’s a huge topic. But let’s keep things simple.
Let me explain quickly what inflation is. Then I’ll show you why some economists think policymakers can’t forecast inflation very well, and why that’s a big problem.
Professor Goodhart told the forum the world was in an extraordinary situation at the moment because economists had “no general theory of inflation.” Come again? He said economists used to have two theories, but those theories had lost credibility.
So In Summary Colon Economics Is Not Scientific And Economists Have No Idea Comma But When They Say Let It Rip For The Economy Must Grow In A Pandemic We Should Listen To Them Instead Of The Health Experts Stop End
Laugh Out Loud
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud Well Fuck
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-10/does-anyone-know-where-inflation-is-heading/100526856
It’s unnerving watching economists arguing about something you’d think they would have figured out decades ago. I’m talking about inflation. At the moment, macroeconomists the world over are arguing about the recent uptick in inflation in places like the United States. They want to know what it means. Is it anything to worry about? Do we have the right tools to manage it? Will it damage our economies like it did in the 1970s? Or is it more like the inflation from the 1950s? It’s a huge topic. But let’s keep things simple.
Let me explain quickly what inflation is. Then I’ll show you why some economists think policymakers can’t forecast inflation very well, and why that’s a big problem.
Professor Goodhart told the forum the world was in an extraordinary situation at the moment because economists had “no general theory of inflation.” Come again? He said economists used to have two theories, but those theories had lost credibility.
So In Summary Colon Economics Is Not Scientific And Economists Have No Idea Comma But When They Say Let It Rip For The Economy Must Grow In A Pandemic We Should Listen To Them Instead Of The Health Experts Stop End
Laugh Out Loud
Is it economists in general advocating opening up or more right-wing pollies? Over the course of the pandemic economists have mainly reacted to the health advice with mechanisms to limit the economic harm as the rapid (somewhat mitigated by delta) recovery is testament to.
well some economists but yeah we admit that
but c’m‘on it was funny while it lasted
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
well c’m‘on at least it just kills Aboriginal Australians, no need to worry about LongCOVID if you’re dead
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
suspicious
Have we got some comparable figures for, say, Australia? The world has been increasing medical testing a lot in the last 8 to 10 years anyway.
Be serious, surely CHINA knew something was up across the Strait, look at this post showing that Mainland Taiwan was getting ready to release a bioweapon in October ¡
speaking of mask
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubsoMhunu-U&ab_channel=RussellBrand
Russell Brand really has turned into a nutter :)
JudgeMental said:
New data reveals mobility in Sydney dropped more than in Melbourne during most recent lockdowns
In late September, Victoria’s Covid testing chief Jeroen Weimar acknowledged Melburnians, soon to be living in the most locked down city globally, were exhausted of lockdowns.
“We know that everyone’s fatigued, we know everyone’s tired of this.”
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So what they’re saying is, a single big eliminating lockdown would have been better than a whole bunch of curve fattening lockdown early marks,
wait
, apparently they did it too but NSWuhan what else ¿
SCIENCE said:
JudgeMental said:New data reveals mobility in Sydney dropped more than in Melbourne during most recent lockdowns
In late September, Victoria’s Covid testing chief Jeroen Weimar acknowledged Melburnians, soon to be living in the most locked down city globally, were exhausted of lockdowns.
“We know that everyone’s fatigued, we know everyone’s tired of this.”
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So what they’re saying is, a single big eliminating lockdown would have been better than a whole bunch of curve fattening lockdown early marks,
wait
, apparently they did it too but NSWuhan what else ¿
page says I have an add blocker by I haven’t, just run a tight browser
certainly beaten by an elimination failure, multiple failures, then one too many, resigned to endemic status, but that was the plan, vaccine + circulating virus courtesy NSW, then the world, exported, readied to import
have some virus with your vaccine, make it worthwhile
The ABC is thoroughly stoking the notion of “Freedom Day”, despite authorities warning against people harbouring such ideas. I am not pleased, Auntie.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/businesses-vaccination-backlash/100527676
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100524244
Michael V said:
The ABC is thoroughly stoking the notion of “Freedom Day”, despite authorities warning against people harbouring such ideas. I am not pleased, Auntie.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/businesses-vaccination-backlash/100527676
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100524244
It is Michael Roland’s breakfast show.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
The ABC is thoroughly stoking the notion of “Freedom Day”, despite authorities warning against people harbouring such ideas. I am not pleased, Auntie.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/businesses-vaccination-backlash/100527676
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100524244
It is Michael Roland’s breakfast show.
I thought it may get better when Virginia left but then mybe that’s why she left?
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
The ABC is thoroughly stoking the notion of “Freedom Day”, despite authorities warning against people harbouring such ideas. I am not pleased, Auntie.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/businesses-vaccination-backlash/100527676
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100524244
It is Michael Roland’s breakfast show.
???
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
The ABC is thoroughly stoking the notion of “Freedom Day”, despite authorities warning against people harbouring such ideas. I am not pleased, Auntie.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/businesses-vaccination-backlash/100527676
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100524244
It is Michael Roland’s breakfast show.
I thought it may get better when Virginia left but then mybe that’s why she left?
I know nothing of Roland or Virginia.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
The ABC is thoroughly stoking the notion of “Freedom Day”, despite authorities warning against people harbouring such ideas. I am not pleased, Auntie.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/businesses-vaccination-backlash/100527676
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100524244
It is Michael Roland’s breakfast show.
???
They seem to be influenced by who emails or twitters them…
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:It is Michael Roland’s breakfast show.
I thought it may get better when Virginia left but then mybe that’s why she left?
I know nothing of Roland or Virginia.
ABC news breakfast show. Television.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:I thought it may get better when Virginia left but then mybe that’s why she left?
I know nothing of Roland or Virginia.
ABC news breakfast show. Television.
Ta.
I don’t TV in the morning. (Except for the cricket.)
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:I know nothing of Roland or Virginia.
ABC news breakfast show. Television.
Ta.
I don’t TV in the morning. (Except for the cricket.)
Yeah. I should set myself up with a radio.
They seem to have all been chucked up in the shed.
NSW: 496 new local cases, eight deaths.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100524244
Michael V said:
The ABC is thoroughly stoking the notion of “Freedom Day”, despite authorities warning against people harbouring such ideas. I am not pleased, Auntie.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/businesses-vaccination-backlash/100527676
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100524244
And Auntie takes no responsibility for it, even though someone has taken the reporters to task. Shame on you Auntie!
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“By Kevin Nguyen
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Is it right to call today “freedom day” in NSW?
Why does freedom day keep being used in headlines? Better to describe what it actually is — a measured re-opening. The UK’s ‘Freedom Day’ led to a huge surge in cases and deaths – why are we keen to emulate that experience? Media have a huge responsibility in how people perceive these moments.
-John
………………………………………………………………….
Morning, John. This is a really good question.
Last month when the date to ease restrictions today were eased, the former Premier Gladys Berejiklian — as my colleague and state political reporter Ashleigh Raper pointed out — she insisted October 11 not be considered “Freedom Day”. She intended to be step one of what she described as a cautious reopening.
She was correct. There’s still a long way to go and we’re not expected to hit the next stage for another two weeks, the Monday after NSW hits 80 per cent fully vaccinated for the over-16 population. Her successor, Dominic Perrottet, is a lot more enthusiastic but he’s yet to use those words as well.
But for millions of people it certainly feels like a “freedom day” and many are referring to it as such. For many, it’ll be the first time we’re reconnecting with many friends and family. Sitting down to have a coffee. For business owners struggling for over three months without direct income, this is a significant moment as well.
You’ll notice we’re using “Freedom Day” in quotes but today needs to be considered with several caveats. Cases will go up today and we may not see the impact of that for up to two weeks. There are also a lot of people, including the 30 per cent of over-16s who aren’t fully-vaccinated, who will not have access to relaxed restrictions.”
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100524244
well look at it this way, even we would agree to the following
if everyone (everyone, not just over 16 year olds) committed to wearing N95+ masks all (all, not just indoors) the time they were within a few metres of anyone from other households, then everything (everything, not just essential drug trade) except non mask activities (including smoking, feeding, wailing, washing) could pretty much go back to normal
Michael V said:
NSW: 496 new local cases, eight deaths.:(
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100524244
VIC: 1,612 new local cases, eight deaths.
:(
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
NSW: 496 new local cases, eight deaths.:(
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/covid-blog-nsw-victoria-queensland-lockdown-press-conferences/100524244VIC: 1,612 new local cases, eight deaths.
:(
look on the bright side, it’s less than yesterday
SCIENCE said:
well look at it this way, even we would agree to the followingif everyone (everyone, not just over 16 year olds) committed to wearing N95+ masks all (all, not just indoors) the time they were within a few metres of anyone from other households, then everything (everything, not just essential drug trade) except non mask activities (including smoking, feeding, wailing, washing) could pretty much go back to normal
I am in agreement that wearing masks should be a requirement until the entire population is fully vaccinated and should become a habit for anyone who feels they might have a cold of any sort.
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
well look at it this way, even we would agree to the followingif everyone (everyone, not just over 16 year olds) committed to wearing N95+ masks all (all, not just indoors) the time they were within a few metres of anyone from other households, then everything (everything, not just essential drug trade) except non mask activities (including smoking, feeding, wailing, washing) could pretty much go back to normal
I am in agreement that wearing masks should be a requirement until the entire population is fully vaccinated and should become a habit for anyone who feels they might have a cold of any sort.
And, of course, those of us who do not want to catch airborne diseases.
release the virus (evil tone)
I am objecting to the new NSW premier declaring that NSW is leading the nation out of lockdown. Most of the nation is not in lockdown and are doing quite nicely thank you very much.
What a fuckwit.
party_pants said:
I am objecting to the new NSW premier declaring that NSW is leading the nation out of lockdown. Most of the nation is not in lockdown and are doing quite nicely thank you very much.What a fuckwit.
I couldn’t agree more.
Problem is that it’ll be NSW people who die. Followed by people in other states as NSW exports the virus. (see, for instance: VIC, NZ.)
party_pants said:
I am objecting to the new NSW premier declaring that NSW is leading the nation out of lockdown. Most of the nation is not in lockdown and are doing quite nicely thank you very much.What a fuckwit.
A dangerous fuckwit. It’s likely to end in tears for many people.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
I am objecting to the new NSW premier declaring that NSW is leading the nation out of lockdown. Most of the nation is not in lockdown and are doing quite nicely thank you very much.What a fuckwit.
I couldn’t agree more.
Problem is that it’ll be NSW people who die. Followed by people in other states as NSW exports the virus. (see, for instance: VIC, NZ.)
Aye.
party_pants said:
I am objecting to the new NSW premier declaring that NSW is leading the nation out of lockdown. Most of the nation is not in lockdown and are doing quite nicely thank you very much.What a fuckwit.
you’re a bit resistant to endemic covid, how’s corona suppose to do its business, complete the global pandemic, the expansion
don’t mind me, i’m in a silly mood, up too early
party_pants said:
I am objecting to the new NSW premier declaring that NSW is leading the nation out of lockdown. Most of the nation is not in lockdown and are doing quite nicely thank you very much.What a fuckwit.
He doesn’t give a shit what you think, you’re not a prospective voter.
What are you doing posting on a Monday?
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
I am objecting to the new NSW premier declaring that NSW is leading the nation out of lockdown. Most of the nation is not in lockdown and are doing quite nicely thank you very much.What a fuckwit.
He doesn’t give a shit what you think, you’re not a prospective voter.
What are you doing posting on a Monday?
Waiting. Going into hospital later today for the eye operation.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
I am objecting to the new NSW premier declaring that NSW is leading the nation out of lockdown. Most of the nation is not in lockdown and are doing quite nicely thank you very much.What a fuckwit.
He doesn’t give a shit what you think, you’re not a prospective voter.
What are you doing posting on a Monday?
Waiting. Going into hospital later today for the eye operation.
Ahh, good luck with that.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
I am objecting to the new NSW premier declaring that NSW is leading the nation out of lockdown. Most of the nation is not in lockdown and are doing quite nicely thank you very much.What a fuckwit.
He doesn’t give a shit what you think, you’re not a prospective voter.
What are you doing posting on a Monday?
Waiting. Going into hospital later today for the eye operation.
Ah. Best wishes for a satisfactory outcome.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:He doesn’t give a shit what you think, you’re not a prospective voter.
What are you doing posting on a Monday?
Waiting. Going into hospital later today for the eye operation.
Ahh, good luck with that.
thanks. It has been a damn inconvenience so far.
party_pants said:
I am objecting to the new NSW premier declaring that NSW is leading the nation out of lockdown. Most of the nation is not in lockdown and are doing quite nicely thank you very much.What a fuckwit.
^
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:He doesn’t give a shit what you think, you’re not a prospective voter.
What are you doing posting on a Monday?
Waiting. Going into hospital later today for the eye operation.
Ah. Best wishes for a satisfactory outcome.
Aye
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Waiting. Going into hospital later today for the eye operation.
Ah. Best wishes for a satisfactory outcome.
Aye
^
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
I am objecting to the new NSW premier declaring that NSW is leading the nation out of lockdown. Most of the nation is not in lockdown and are doing quite nicely thank you very much.
What a fuckwit.
I couldn’t agree more.
Problem is that it’ll be NSW people who die. Followed by people in other states as NSW exports the virus. (see, for instance: VIC, NZ.)
seems correct, to lead everyone else out of lockdown, you first need to force them into lockdown
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
I am objecting to the new NSW premier declaring that NSW is leading the nation out of lockdown. Most of the nation is not in lockdown and are doing quite nicely thank you very much.What a fuckwit.
He doesn’t give a shit what you think, you’re not a prospective voter.
What are you doing posting on a Monday?
I am and yeah fuckwit for sure.
Businesses in NSW open at midnight, after people queue to get in. What a wonderful way to spread an airborne disease. In any case, why go to KMart at midnight? Why go to gyms at midnight (reported in another story)?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/western-sydney-businesses-reopen-after-lockdown/100529730
Michael V said:
Businesses in NSW open at midnight, after people queue to get in. What a wonderful way to spread an airborne disease. In any case, why go to KMart at midnight? Why go to gyms at midnight (reported in another story)?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/western-sydney-businesses-reopen-after-lockdown/100529730
Kmart cookies perhaps but yeah
Michael V said:
Businesses in NSW open at midnight, after people queue to get in. What a wonderful way to spread an airborne disease. In any case, why go to KMart at midnight? Why go to gyms at midnight (reported in another story)?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/western-sydney-businesses-reopen-after-lockdown/100529730
I joined a (24/7) gym a few years ago and only went there after midnight; I was working night shift, and that was the best time for me to go. (I rode a bicycle there, but the first thing they had me do when I started was to ride the exercise bike.)
btm said:
Michael V said:
Businesses in NSW open at midnight, after people queue to get in. What a wonderful way to spread an airborne disease. In any case, why go to KMart at midnight? Why go to gyms at midnight (reported in another story)?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/western-sydney-businesses-reopen-after-lockdown/100529730
I joined a (24/7) gym a few years ago and only went there after midnight; I was working night shift, and that was the best time for me to go. (I rode a bicycle there, but the first thing they had me do when I started was to ride the exercise bike.)
When I worked night shift, I would have had to go to the gym in daylight hours. Shift was 6pm – 6am.
Michael V said:
Businesses in NSW open at midnight, after people queue to get in. What a wonderful way to spread an airborne disease. In any case, why go to KMart at midnight? Why go to gyms at midnight (reported in another story)?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/western-sydney-businesses-reopen-after-lockdown/100529730
Paraphrase: “You have a different language and culture. We don’t care. Get vaxxed or die. We’ll do nothing more to protect you”.
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Bit rich…
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/low-covid-19-vaccine-rate-wont-stop-nt-opening-minister-says/100529208
Michael V said:
Paraphrase: “You have a different language and culture. We don’t care. Get vaxxed or die. We’ll do nothing more to protect you”.
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Bit rich…
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/low-covid-19-vaccine-rate-wont-stop-nt-opening-minister-says/100529208
if it’s any consolation the life expectancy is lower anyway right so COVID-19 is going to be less deadly and that means Let It Rip™ must be the only way
furious said:
Michael V said:
Businesses in NSW open at midnight, after people queue to get in. What a wonderful way to spread an airborne disease. In any case, why go to KMart at midnight? Why go to gyms at midnight (reported in another story)?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/western-sydney-businesses-reopen-after-lockdown/100529730
well let’s see…
… get money now …
… get COVID-19 later …
… wonder which is going to be worth talking about
