Date: 9/11/2021 19:28:33
From: buffy
ID: 1814143
Subject: Glasswing butterflies

I’d not heard of glasswing butterflies. They are gorgeous. And of course, there is optics involved!

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/new-images-how-glasswing-butterflies-wings-transparent

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Date: 9/11/2021 19:45:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1814150
Subject: re: Glasswing butterflies

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Date: 9/11/2021 19:58:08
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1814154
Subject: re: Glasswing butterflies

buffy said:


I’d not heard of glasswing butterflies. They are gorgeous. And of course, there is optics involved!

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/new-images-how-glasswing-butterflies-wings-transparent

I had heard of them, but have never seen one.

> Sparse, spindly scales overlaying a see-through wing membrane with antireflective properties help make these insects so stealthy.

The lack of wing scales and hairlike nature of these wing scales is not a surprise.

What is a surprise to me is the anti-reflective properies, which consists of “an array of tiny wax bumps coats the surface of the membrane, creating a more gradual shift between the optical qualities of the air and wing. That allows more light traveling through the air to pass through the wing rather than reflect off of it, softening the glare.”

Can we use wax bumps to make windows better?

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Date: 10/11/2021 06:43:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 1814210
Subject: re: Glasswing butterflies

They are stunning.

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Date: 10/11/2021 09:44:02
From: Ogmog
ID: 1814256
Subject: re: Glasswing butterflies

roughbarked said:


They are stunning.

Scientists See the Invisible:

How Butterflies Make Transparent Wings

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Date: 10/11/2021 18:41:26
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1814563
Subject: re: Glasswing butterflies

> Can we use wax bumps to make windows better?

More thinking, no we can’t.

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Date: 10/11/2021 18:59:50
From: Michael V
ID: 1814572
Subject: re: Glasswing butterflies

There are at least two clear-winged butterflies in Australia. I have seen some near Cobbold Gorge northern Qld. I’ve lost my photos, unfortunately. It may have been Acraea andromacha, but my memory isn’t much good these days.

Cressida cressida and Acraea andromacha.

https://www.brisbaneinsects.com/brisbane_butters/ClearwingSwallowtail.htm

https://www.brisbaneinsects.com/brisbane_nymphs/Glasswing.htm

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Date: 11/11/2021 11:10:14
From: Ogmog
ID: 1814743
Subject: re: Glasswing butterflies

mollwollfumble said:


buffy said:

I’d not heard of glasswing butterflies. They are gorgeous. And of course, there is optics involved!

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/new-images-how-glasswing-butterflies-wings-transparent

I had heard of them, but have never seen one.

> Sparse, spindly scales overlaying a see-through wing membrane with antireflective properties help make these insects so stealthy.

The lack of wing scales and hairlike nature of these wing scales is not a surprise.

What is a surprise to me is the anti-reflective properies, which consists of “an array of tiny wax bumps coats the surface of the membrane, creating a more gradual shift between the optical qualities of the air and wing. That allows more light traveling through the air to pass through the wing rather than reflect off of it, softening the glare.”

Can we use wax bumps to make windows better?

The purpose of the wax bumps isn’t as much to increase clarity as it is
to make them less reflective (less likely to draw the attention of predators)

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Date: 11/11/2021 11:12:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1814746
Subject: re: Glasswing butterflies

Ogmog said:

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

I’d not heard of glasswing butterflies. They are gorgeous. And of course, there is optics involved!

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/new-images-how-glasswing-butterflies-wings-transparent

I had heard of them, but have never seen one.

> Sparse, spindly scales overlaying a see-through wing membrane with antireflective properties help make these insects so stealthy.

The lack of wing scales and hairlike nature of these wing scales is not a surprise.

What is a surprise to me is the anti-reflective properies, which consists of “an array of tiny wax bumps coats the surface of the membrane, creating a more gradual shift between the optical qualities of the air and wing. That allows more light traveling through the air to pass through the wing rather than reflect off of it, softening the glare.”

Can we use wax bumps to make windows better?

The purpose of the wax bumps isn’t as much to increase clarity as it is
to make them less reflective (less likely to draw the attention of predators)

does decreasing reflective glare increase transmission clarity

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Date: 13/11/2021 03:12:22
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1815363
Subject: re: Glasswing butterflies

SCIENCE said:

Ogmog said:

mollwollfumble said:

I had heard of them, but have never seen one.

> Sparse, spindly scales overlaying a see-through wing membrane with antireflective properties help make these insects so stealthy.

The lack of wing scales and hairlike nature of these wing scales is not a surprise.

What is a surprise to me is the anti-reflective properies, which consists of “an array of tiny wax bumps coats the surface of the membrane, creating a more gradual shift between the optical qualities of the air and wing. That allows more light traveling through the air to pass through the wing rather than reflect off of it, softening the glare.”

Can we use wax bumps to make windows better?

The purpose of the wax bumps isn’t as much to increase clarity as it is
to make them less reflective (less likely to draw the attention of predators)

does decreasing reflective glare increase transmission clarity

It blurs focus at the same time as blurring reflection. So it’s good at increasing transmission clarity over short distances of a few cm but the blurring effect is multiplied as distance increases, rendering it useless at distance scales of order one metre.

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