Date: 15/11/2021 13:09:49
From: buffy
ID: 1816139
Subject: Science and pandemics

This is a long read.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/pandemic-science

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Date: 15/11/2021 13:20:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1816142
Subject: re: Science and pandemics

buffy said:

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/pandemic-science

Ah that discredited author again, nice, except ‘e definitely doesn’t represent us, and we are SCIENCE.

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Date: 15/11/2021 13:30:01
From: buffy
ID: 1816145
Subject: re: Science and pandemics

SCIENCE said:


buffy said:

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/pandemic-science

Ah that discredited author again, nice, except ‘e definitely doesn’t represent us, and we are SCIENCE.

When you can match his qualifications and Professorships, you may claim to be science.

https://profiles.stanford.edu/john-ioannidis

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Date: 15/11/2021 13:35:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1816149
Subject: re: Science and pandemics

buffy said:


SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/pandemic-science

Ah that discredited author again, nice, except ‘e definitely doesn’t represent us, and we are SCIENCE.

When you can match his qualifications and Professorships, you may claim to be science.

https://profiles.stanford.edu/john-ioannidis

When we followed the link, we understood that SCIENCE was correct and the published evidence from that discredited author was exactly what discredited h’.

We noted that it is entirely possible that the opinion of a person or institution of authority is wrong; therefore the authority that such a person or institution holds does not have any intrinsic bearing upon whether their claims are true or not.

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Date: 15/11/2021 13:40:29
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1816151
Subject: re: Science and pandemics

I don’t know how reliable he is but in his profile he says:

I love to be constantly reminded that I know next to nothing.

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Date: 15/11/2021 13:44:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1816153
Subject: re: Science and pandemics

For some potentially false balance, this link also contains the word “SCIENCE”.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-the-heck-happened-to-john-ioannidis/

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Date: 15/11/2021 19:09:34
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1816207
Subject: re: Science and pandemics

buffy said:


SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/pandemic-science

Ah that discredited author again, nice, except ‘e definitely doesn’t represent us, and we are SCIENCE.

When you can match his qualifications and Professorships, you may claim to be science.

https://profiles.stanford.edu/john-ioannidis

I admit to only scanning that article quickly, but its contents seem to have close to zero connection to qualifications and professorship.

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Date: 15/11/2021 19:24:38
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1816210
Subject: re: Science and pandemics

buffy said:


SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/pandemic-science

Ah that discredited author again, nice, except ‘e definitely doesn’t represent us, and we are SCIENCE.

When you can match his qualifications and Professorships, you may claim to be science.

https://profiles.stanford.edu/john-ioannidis

A lot of papers on meta-meta-research. ie. research into how research is influenced by previous research.

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Date: 15/11/2021 19:33:16
From: buffy
ID: 1816211
Subject: re: Science and pandemics

mollwollfumble said:


buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

Ah that discredited author again, nice, except ‘e definitely doesn’t represent us, and we are SCIENCE.

When you can match his qualifications and Professorships, you may claim to be science.

https://profiles.stanford.edu/john-ioannidis

A lot of papers on meta-meta-research. ie. research into how research is influenced by previous research.


moll…this is the paper that brought him to fame, back in 2005.

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Date: 15/11/2021 19:37:26
From: buffy
ID: 1816213
Subject: re: Science and pandemics

buffy said:


mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

When you can match his qualifications and Professorships, you may claim to be science.

https://profiles.stanford.edu/john-ioannidis

A lot of papers on meta-meta-research. ie. research into how research is influenced by previous research.


moll…this is the paper that brought him to fame, back in 2005.

whoops, sorry:

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124

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Date: 15/11/2021 20:47:46
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1816224
Subject: re: Science and pandemics

buffy said:


buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

A lot of papers on meta-meta-research. ie. research into how research is influenced by previous research.


moll…this is the paper that brought him to fame, back in 2005.

whoops, sorry:

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124

“Why Most Published Research Findings Are False”

Ta. That rings a bell.

“a research finding is less likely to be true when the studies conducted in a field are smaller; when effect sizes are smaller; when there is a greater number and lesser preselection of tested relationships; where there is greater flexibility in designs, definitions, outcomes, and analytical modes”

That’s simple statistics. Everyone knows that. That particularly relates to biomed, rather than for example astronomy.

“when there is greater financial and other interest and prejudice”.

I could add a lot of other sources of bias to those. Such as incomptetence.

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