With the proviso that this was funded by dairy interests, it’s still interesting, and made it into the British Medical Journal. So was it the dairy, or was it that nursing home diets aren’t so good?

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2364

Effect of dietary sources of calcium and protein on hip fractures and falls in older adults in residential care: cluster randomised controlled trial

buffy said:

With the proviso that this was funded by dairy interests, it’s still interesting, and made it into the British Medical Journal. So was it the dairy, or was it that nursing home diets aren’t so good?

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2364

Effect of dietary sources of calcium and protein on hip fractures and falls in older adults in residential care: cluster randomised controlled trial

Funny in that I’ve just come home from a bone density test.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

With the proviso that this was funded by dairy interests, it’s still interesting, and made it into the British Medical Journal. So was it the dairy, or was it that nursing home diets aren’t so good?

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2364

Effect of dietary sources of calcium and protein on hip fractures and falls in older adults in residential care: cluster randomised controlled trial

Funny in that I’ve just come home from a bone density test.

Did you pass? Janina gets injections every few months for her bad bone density.

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

With the proviso that this was funded by dairy interests, it’s still interesting, and made it into the British Medical Journal. So was it the dairy, or was it that nursing home diets aren’t so good?

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2364

Effect of dietary sources of calcium and protein on hip fractures and falls in older adults in residential care: cluster randomised controlled trial

Funny in that I’ve just come home from a bone density test.

Did you pass? Janina gets injections every few months for her bad bone density.

My doctor will inform me. Presumably at the cost of another appointment.

so tofu or other calcium seeded foods would be best, makes sense

buffy said:

With the proviso that this was funded by dairy interests, it’s still interesting, and made it into the British Medical Journal. So was it the dairy, or was it that nursing home diets aren’t so good?

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2364

Effect of dietary sources of calcium and protein on hip fractures and falls in older adults in residential care: cluster randomised controlled trial

> Improving calcium and protein intakes by using dairy foods is a readily accessible intervention that reduces the risk of falls and fractures commonly occurring in aged care residents.

Not for lactose intolerant. They only looked at dairy foods as sources of calcium.

“Experts estimate that about 68 percent of the world’s population has lactose intolerance”.

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

With the proviso that this was funded by dairy interests, it’s still interesting, and made it into the British Medical Journal. So was it the dairy, or was it that nursing home diets aren’t so good?

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2364

Effect of dietary sources of calcium and protein on hip fractures and falls in older adults in residential care: cluster randomised controlled trial

> Improving calcium and protein intakes by using dairy foods is a readily accessible intervention that reduces the risk of falls and fractures commonly occurring in aged care residents.

Not for lactose intolerant. They only looked at dairy foods as sources of calcium.

“Experts estimate that about 68 percent of the world’s population has lactose intolerance”.

The amounts used were considered to be within tolerance. It’s mentioned somewhere in the paper.

>>We classified dairy foods by using the Australian Dietary Guidelines, with a “serving” defined as 250 mL of milk, 200 g of yoghurt, and 40 g of cheese.12 Lactose-free options were provided to accommodate the few participants (<0.001%) with reported lactose intolerance. Butter, cream, and ice cream were not provided, as they contain little calcium or protein. All facilities prepared and cooked foods on site. We assigned intervention facilities a food service dietician to assist food service staff to increase the provision of dairy foods at all meals and snacks. Methods used to increase dairy foods included use of milk powder to fortify milk used in recipes and beverages. Dairy based desserts and snacks were offered in place of less nutritious foods such as cakes and biscuits. Foods provided were based on the preferences expressed by the residents at intervention sites.<<

guess soy wins again, no lactose in soy

buffy said:

With the proviso that this was funded by dairy interests, it’s still interesting, and made it into the British Medical Journal. So was it the dairy, or was it that nursing home diets aren’t so good?

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2364

Effect of dietary sources of calcium and protein on hip fractures and falls in older adults in residential care: cluster randomised controlled trial

Is there a study other than by the dairy industry that addresses
the effects of that level of dairy intake has on cholesterol levels

…just saying…

consulting the coal industry and the chances are they’ll say “The More the Merrier!” :-D

not much fat in skim milk, light yoghurt, and tofu let’s be fair

My laptop is Roger’s so I’m using g my pad and I’m

Not very good at it, at the redoubt aft er an adventurous trip and wading the creek etc.

buffy said:

>>We classified dairy foods by using the Australian Dietary Guidelines, with a “serving” defined as 250 mL of milk, 200 g of yoghurt, and 40 g of cheese.12 Lactose-free options were provided to accommodate the few participants (<0.001%) with reported lactose intolerance. Butter, cream, and ice cream were not provided, as they contain little calcium or protein. All facilities prepared and cooked foods on site. We assigned intervention facilities a food service dietician to assist food service staff to increase the provision of dairy foods at all meals and snacks. Methods used to increase dairy foods included use of milk powder to fortify milk used in recipes and beverages. Dairy based desserts and snacks were offered in place of less nutritious foods such as cakes and biscuits. Foods provided were based on the preferences expressed by the residents at intervention sites.<<

Thanks.

I like to eat fish bones and chicken bones to supplement my calcium. And offal for vitamins.

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

>>We classified dairy foods by using the Australian Dietary Guidelines, with a “serving” defined as 250 mL of milk, 200 g of yoghurt, and 40 g of cheese.12 Lactose-free options were provided to accommodate the few participants (<0.001%) with reported lactose intolerance. Butter, cream, and ice cream were not provided, as they contain little calcium or protein. All facilities prepared and cooked foods on site. We assigned intervention facilities a food service dietician to assist food service staff to increase the provision of dairy foods at all meals and snacks. Methods used to increase dairy foods included use of milk powder to fortify milk used in recipes and beverages. Dairy based desserts and snacks were offered in place of less nutritious foods such as cakes and biscuits. Foods provided were based on the preferences expressed by the residents at intervention sites.<<

Thanks.

I like to eat fish bones and chicken bones to supplement my calcium. And offal for vitamins.

I do all that too
in addition to taking OTC Calcium & VitD & C suppliments

Ogmog said:

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

>>We classified dairy foods by using the Australian Dietary Guidelines, with a “serving” defined as 250 mL of milk, 200 g of yoghurt, and 40 g of cheese.12 Lactose-free options were provided to accommodate the few participants (<0.001%) with reported lactose intolerance. Butter, cream, and ice cream were not provided, as they contain little calcium or protein. All facilities prepared and cooked foods on site. We assigned intervention facilities a food service dietician to assist food service staff to increase the provision of dairy foods at all meals and snacks. Methods used to increase dairy foods included use of milk powder to fortify milk used in recipes and beverages. Dairy based desserts and snacks were offered in place of less nutritious foods such as cakes and biscuits. Foods provided were based on the preferences expressed by the residents at intervention sites.<<

Thanks.

I like to eat fish bones and chicken bones to supplement my calcium. And offal for vitamins.

I do all that too
in addition to taking OTC Calcium & VitD & C suppliments

I don’t take supplements.
I’ve never deliberately eaten the bones of fish chicken or anything else.
Have always avoided offal.
To top it off, have not partaken of fish products for 63 years, chicken for 65 years and all meat products since 1974.
No doctor or dietician has ever suggested that I am short of any vitamin or mineral.

roughbarked said:

Ogmog said:

mollwollfumble said:

Thanks.

I like to eat fish bones and chicken bones to supplement my calcium. And offal for vitamins.

I do all that too
in addition to taking OTC Calcium & VitD & C suppliments

I don’t take supplements.
I’ve never deliberately eaten the bones of fish chicken or anything else.
Have always avoided offal.
To top it off, have not partaken of fish products for 63 years, chicken for 65 years and all meat products since 1974.
No doctor or dietician has ever suggested that I am short of any vitamin or mineral.

GET WITH The PROGRAM!
STOP Eating what PRIMEates evolved to eat and
Start BUYING Into what the Fishing, Poultry, Meat & DAIRY INdustry DICKtates.
Including eating (and drinking) LOTS of fresh (organically grown) fruits & vegetables and
breathing copious amounts of fresh air, plenty of Vit D (sunshine) and bone strengthening exercise

right you all are, we suppose only hippies eat soy anyway

SCIENCE said:

right you all are, we suppose only hippies eat soy anyway

Perhaps I am a hippie.

But I cannot stand “soy milk”.

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

right you all are, we suppose only hippies eat soy anyway

Perhaps I am a hippie.

But I cannot stand “soy milk”.

good for you
cause that’s an industry scam too
Google the result of leveling forests to grow soybeans

Can’t stand soy milk either.

roughbarked said:

Ogmog said:

mollwollfumble said:

Thanks.

I like to eat fish bones and chicken bones to supplement my calcium. And offal for vitamins.

I do all that too
in addition to taking OTC Calcium & VitD & C suppliments

I don’t take supplements.
I’ve never deliberately eaten the bones of fish chicken or anything else.
Have always avoided offal.
To top it off, have not partaken of fish products for 63 years, chicken for 65 years and all meat products since 1974.
No doctor or dietician has ever suggested that I am short of any vitamin or mineral.

You didn’t mention dairy. Which was my original point.

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

Ogmog said:

I do all that too
in addition to taking OTC Calcium & VitD & C suppliments

I don’t take supplements.
I’ve never deliberately eaten the bones of fish chicken or anything else.
Have always avoided offal.
To top it off, have not partaken of fish products for 63 years, chicken for 65 years and all meat products since 1974.
No doctor or dietician has ever suggested that I am short of any vitamin or mineral.

You didn’t mention dairy. Which was my original point.

I take a couple of tablespoons of milk in coffee, use about half a pound of butter a month, eat some cheese in the odd meal.

so is the consensus that flesh of ungulates is, protein quality for protein quality, equivalent to legume seed in environmental detriment

SCIENCE said:

so is the consensus that flesh of ungulates is, protein quality for protein quality, equivalent to legume seed in environmental detriment

Even-toed or odd?

SCIENCE said:

so is the consensus that flesh of ungulates is, protein quality for protein quality, equivalent to legume seed in environmental detriment

Just ask Neil from the Young Ones.

Ian said:

SCIENCE said:

so is the consensus that flesh of ungulates is, protein quality for protein quality, equivalent to legume seed in environmental detriment

Even-toed or odd?

A varied diet is a good thing.

Michael V said:

Ian said:

SCIENCE said:

so is the consensus that flesh of ungulates is, protein quality for protein quality, equivalent to legume seed in environmental detriment

Even-toed or odd?

A varied diet is a good thing.

So, well rounded then¿

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Ian said:

Even-toed or odd?

A varied diet is a good thing.

So, well rounded then¿

If you want.

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

Ogmog said:

I do all that too
in addition to taking OTC Calcium & VitD & C suppliments

I don’t take supplements.
I’ve never deliberately eaten the bones of fish chicken or anything else.
Have always avoided offal.
To top it off, have not partaken of fish products for 63 years, chicken for 65 years and all meat products since 1974.
No doctor or dietician has ever suggested that I am short of any vitamin or mineral.

You didn’t mention dairy. Which was my original point.

…and my original point was
We seem to be the only species of mammals that drink milk after infancy, and definitely the only species that drinks another species’ milk. Cow’s milk is not designed for human consumption. Calves are about 100 pounds at birth and almost 8 to 10 times heavier by the time they are weaned.

Why You Should Stop Drinking Milk Right Now

iow; Stop BUYING~INTO the Corporate BS

GOT MILK?

Ian said:

SCIENCE said:

so is the consensus that flesh of ungulates is, protein quality for protein quality, equivalent to legume seed in environmental detriment

Even-toed or odd?

odd

buffy said:

With the proviso that this was funded by dairy interests, it’s still interesting, and made it into the British Medical Journal. So was it the dairy, or was it that nursing home diets aren’t so good?

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2364

Effect of dietary sources of calcium and protein on hip fractures and falls in older adults in residential care: cluster randomised controlled trial

as for the original post concerning Nursing Homes
we were also not originally designed live past our expiration date
iow
“to multiple and fill the earth” (over populate the planet) was The Original Corporate BS

Ogmog said:

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

I don’t take supplements.
I’ve never deliberately eaten the bones of fish chicken or anything else.
Have always avoided offal.
To top it off, have not partaken of fish products for 63 years, chicken for 65 years and all meat products since 1974.
No doctor or dietician has ever suggested that I am short of any vitamin or mineral.

You didn’t mention dairy. Which was my original point.

…and my original point was
We seem to be the only species of mammals that drink milk after infancy, and definitely the only species that drinks another species’ milk. Cow’s milk is not designed for human consumption. Calves are about 100 pounds at birth and almost 8 to 10 times heavier by the time they are weaned.

Why You Should Stop Drinking Milk Right Now

iow; Stop BUYING~INTO the Corporate BS

GOT MILK?

It is a subject that has been brought up often.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7284997/

SCIENCE said:

guess soy wins again, no lactose in soy

I thought that it was understood that calcium was in other food groups but the ease of access to dairy made it easy food choice.

Some people put soy under the spotlight for being a highly “Genetically Modified” crop nowadays as soy milk is not like for like in calcium quantity. Meaning not all soy milk is fortified with the same level of calcium per serve compared with dairy milk.

Reading the nutrition panels is essential if you swap a child’s calcium source from dairy to soy products exclusively. Some parents do swap from dairy to soy milk not realising that one glass of soy milk is not always equal to one glass of dairy milk.

I think most people would be surprised with the variation of calcium levels in soy milk products. .

monkey skipper said:

SCIENCE said:

guess soy wins again, no lactose in soy

I thought that it was understood that calcium was in other food groups but the ease of access to dairy made it easy food choice.

Some people put soy under the spotlight for being a highly “Genetically Modified” crop nowadays as soy milk is not like for like in calcium quantity. Meaning not all soy milk is fortified with the same level of calcium per serve compared with dairy milk.

Reading the nutrition panels is essential if you swap a child’s calcium source from dairy to soy products exclusively. Some parents do swap from dairy to soy milk not realising that one glass of soy milk is not always equal to one glass of dairy milk.

I think most people would be surprised with the variation of calcium levels in soy milk products. .

I suppose one could drink Calci Plus?

Ogmog said:

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

I don’t take supplements.
I’ve never deliberately eaten the bones of fish chicken or anything else.
Have always avoided offal.
To top it off, have not partaken of fish products for 63 years, chicken for 65 years and all meat products since 1974.
No doctor or dietician has ever suggested that I am short of any vitamin or mineral.

You didn’t mention dairy. Which was my original point.

…and my original point was
We seem to be the only species of mammals that drink milk after infancy, and definitely the only species that drinks another species’ milk. Cow’s milk is not designed for human consumption. Calves are about 100 pounds at birth and almost 8 to 10 times heavier by the time they are weaned.

Why You Should Stop Drinking Milk Right Now

iow; Stop BUYING~INTO the Corporate BS

GOT MILK?

My other point is
STOP BUYING INTO THE CORPORATE Need For GREED
If & When Haliburton even gets cornered on the matter they’ll undoubtedly swear that
FRACKING is the Greatest Thing Since Sliced Bread! o:-D trust me