Date: 7/12/2021 19:56:34
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1822687
Subject: DARPA has made a real (tiny) warp bubble

Warp drive pioneer and former NASA warp drive specialist Dr. Harold G “Sonny” White has reported the successful manifestation of an actual, real-world “Warp Bubble.” And, according to White, this first of its kind breakthrough by his Limitless Space Institute (LSI) team sets a new starting point for those trying to manufacture a full-sized, warp-capable spacecraft.

“To be clear, our finding is not a warp bubble analog, it is a real, albeit humble and tiny, warp bubble,” White told The Debrief, quickly dispensing with the notion that this is anything other than the creation of an actual, real-world warp bubble. “Hence the significance.”

Bleedin’ ‘eck!!!

thedebrief.org/darpa-funded-researchers-accidentally-create-the-worlds-first-warp-bubble

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Date: 7/12/2021 20:39:34
From: sibeen
ID: 1822690
Subject: re: DARPA has made a real (tiny) warp bubble

Very interesting.

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Date: 8/12/2021 14:39:49
From: dv
ID: 1822870
Subject: re: DARPA has made a real (tiny) warp bubble

Huge if true but I’ll wait for the journal article and response

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Date: 10/12/2021 04:39:51
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1823528
Subject: re: DARPA has made a real (tiny) warp bubble

Spiny Norman said:


Warp drive pioneer and former NASA warp drive specialist Dr. Harold G “Sonny” White has reported the successful manifestation of an actual, real-world “Warp Bubble.” And, according to White, this first of its kind breakthrough by his Limitless Space Institute (LSI) team sets a new starting point for those trying to manufacture a full-sized, warp-capable spacecraft.

“To be clear, our finding is not a warp bubble analog, it is a real, albeit humble and tiny, warp bubble,” White told The Debrief, quickly dispensing with the notion that this is anything other than the creation of an actual, real-world warp bubble. “Hence the significance.”

Bleedin’ ‘eck!!!

thedebrief.org/darpa-funded-researchers-accidentally-create-the-worlds-first-warp-bubble

I don’t believe it.

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Date: 10/12/2021 10:28:10
From: esselte
ID: 1823574
Subject: re: DARPA has made a real (tiny) warp bubble

Harold “Sonny” White is well known as NASA’s resident nutcase and “Warp Drive” shyster.

Remember this image from a few years ago, alongside articles making claims that NASA was close to inventing Warp Drive? This was the same guy making those claims, and I remember him being roundly lambasted and discredited at the time by various other scientists whilst the non-scientific media reported it as being credible (because “he works for NASA, dont”-ya-know”!)

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Date: 10/12/2021 10:36:54
From: esselte
ID: 1823578
Subject: re: DARPA has made a real (tiny) warp bubble

Here is a link to the new paper, for anyone who is interested.

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1140/epjc/s10052-021-09484-z
Worldline numerics applied to custom Casimir geometry generates unanticipated intersection with Alcubierre warp metric

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Date: 10/12/2021 10:40:17
From: esselte
ID: 1823580
Subject: re: DARPA has made a real (tiny) warp bubble

Criticism of the paper:

“And then it gets shady. “Where’s my warp bubble?” They didn’t make one. In fact, they didn’t calculate one, either. All they did was show that the three-dimensional energy density generated by this cavity displayed some qualitative correlations with the energy density field required by the Alcubierre drive. They don’t match in a quantitative sense; they were not generated experimentally, but only calculated numerically; and most importantly, they are restricted to microscopic scales and extremely low energy densities. There’s a lot of speculation and conjecture, and all of it is unproven.

“That isn’t to say this might not be an interesting idea that might someday pan out. But the most generous thing I can say about it is this: it isn’t fully baked. The most worrisome part, as a scientist familiar with Dr. White’s grandiose claims surrounding physics-violating engines in the past, is that he’s making new grand claims without adequate supporting evidence. He’s going to be looking at tiny, low-power systems and attempting to make measurements right at the limit of what his equipment will be able to detect. And, in the very recent past, he has fooled himself (and many others) into believing a novel effect was present when, in fact, it was not. An error, where his team failed to account for the magnetic and electric fields generated by the wires powering his previous apparatus, was all he wound up measuring.”

https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/no-warp-bubble/
I wrote the book on warp drive. No, we didn’t accidentally create a warp bubble.

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Date: 10/12/2021 10:41:56
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1823582
Subject: re: DARPA has made a real (tiny) warp bubble

esselte said:

Criticism of the paper:

“And then it gets shady. “Where’s my warp bubble?” They didn’t make one. In fact, they didn’t calculate one, either. All they did was show that the three-dimensional energy density generated by this cavity displayed some qualitative correlations with the energy density field required by the Alcubierre drive. They don’t match in a quantitative sense; they were not generated experimentally, but only calculated numerically; and most importantly, they are restricted to microscopic scales and extremely low energy densities. There’s a lot of speculation and conjecture, and all of it is unproven.

“That isn’t to say this might not be an interesting idea that might someday pan out. But the most generous thing I can say about it is this: it isn’t fully baked. The most worrisome part, as a scientist familiar with Dr. White’s grandiose claims surrounding physics-violating engines in the past, is that he’s making new grand claims without adequate supporting evidence. He’s going to be looking at tiny, low-power systems and attempting to make measurements right at the limit of what his equipment will be able to detect. And, in the very recent past, he has fooled himself (and many others) into believing a novel effect was present when, in fact, it was not. An error, where his team failed to account for the magnetic and electric fields generated by the wires powering his previous apparatus, was all he wound up measuring.”

https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/no-warp-bubble/
I wrote the book on warp drive. No, we didn’t accidentally create a warp bubble.

Interesting. Well I hope this one turns out to be the real thing.

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Date: 17/12/2021 18:49:33
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1826082
Subject: re: DARPA has made a real (tiny) warp bubble

My favourite astrophysicist (what, doesn’t everyone have one?) debunked this.

https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/no-warp-bubble/

He also debunked the touching-the-sun thing.

https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/parker-solar-probe-touch-sun/

Maybe not “debunked” as much as “dove deeper into the headlines”.

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Date: 17/12/2021 19:50:45
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1826092
Subject: re: DARPA has made a real (tiny) warp bubble

Divine Angel said:


My favourite astrophysicist (what, doesn’t everyone have one?) debunked this.

https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/no-warp-bubble/

He also debunked the touching-the-sun thing.

https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/parker-solar-probe-touch-sun/

Maybe not “debunked” as much as “dove deeper into the headlines”.

Ta for that DA, I’ll read it after breakfast (only just got up).

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