81 new cases of #COVID19 were confirmed in #NorthernNSW
Cases by LGA:
- Byron 65
- Ballina 9
- Lismore 4
- Richmond Valley 1
- Tweed 1
- Clarence Valley 1
Kyogle 0
To date, no cases in NNSWLHD have been identified as the Omicron variant of concern. There are currently no COVID-positive patients in hospital in Northern NSW.
81 new cases of #COVID19 were confirmed in #NorthernNSW
Cases by LGA:
- Byron 65
- Ballina 9
- Lismore 4
- Richmond Valley 1
- Tweed 1
- Clarence Valley 1
Kyogle 0
To date, no cases in NNSWLHD have been identified as the Omicron variant of concern. There are currently no COVID-positive patients in hospital in Northern NSW.
81 new cases of #COVID19 were confirmed in #NorthernNSW
Cases by LGA:
- Byron 65
- Ballina 9
- Lismore 4
- Richmond Valley 1
- Tweed 1
- Clarence Valley 1
Kyogle 0
To date, no cases in NNSWLHD have been identified as the Omicron variant of concern. There are currently no COVID-positive patients in hospital in Northern NSW.
81 new cases of #COVID19 were confirmed in #NorthernNSW
Cases by LGA:
- Byron 65
- Ballina 9
- Lismore 4
- Richmond Valley 1
- Tweed 1
- Clarence Valley 1
Kyogle 0
To date, no cases in NNSWLHD have been identified as the Omicron variant of concern. There are currently no COVID-positive patients in hospital in Northern NSW.
It’s clumsy to use, but that link will give you Northern NSW Health District (around these parts) “reverse sort” (click on) “Notification Date” to get the latest numbers. (manually widen the column) It list each case individually. It doesn’t give summaries or totals. But you can “add filter” of notification date. Don’t know if you can give it a “date range”.
It’s clumsy to use, but that link will give you Northern NSW Health District (around these parts) “reverse sort” (click on) “Notification Date” to get the latest numbers. (manually widen the column) It list each case individually. It doesn’t give summaries or totals. But you can “add filter” of notification date. Don’t know if you can give it a “date range”.
Masks are becoming mandatory again in many outdoor and public locations across Queensland, as COVID-19 cases continue to mount. Here’s what you need to know about the new mask mandate, which will take effect from 1:00am Saturday.
Masks are becoming mandatory again in many outdoor and public locations across Queensland, as COVID-19 cases continue to mount. Here’s what you need to know about the new mask mandate, which will take effect from 1:00am Saturday.
“Adrian Esterman, chair of biostatistics and epidemiology at the University of South Australia, said the number indicated cases were growing “at a very steep rate”.
“So with an effective reproduction number of about two, you’re looking at case numbers doubling every four days,” Professor Esterman said.
NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard said on Wednesday that modelling by UNSW suggested that with a reproductive rate of 1.5, cases could reach 25,000 a day by the end of January.”
“Adrian Esterman, chair of biostatistics and epidemiology at the University of South Australia, said the number indicated cases were growing “at a very steep rate”.
nah it’s all right because NSWuhan are starting from a much lower rate than VIC, see
good news, all it took was promising local residents that they could become 12500 new chronic disease patients per day and BOOM like magic the borders opened to bioterrorism imports so travellers wouldn’t have to wait a few days instead
New South Wales and Victoria have eased international arrival rules, removing the 72-hour isolation requirement for fully vaccinated travellers.
From Tuesday, overseas arrivals to Melbourne and Sydney will be required to get a COVID-19 PCR test within 24 hours of landing, and isolate at home until they return a negative result.
“Adrian Esterman, chair of biostatistics and epidemiology at the University of South Australia, said the number indicated cases were growing “at a very steep rate”.
“So with an effective reproduction number of about two, you’re looking at case numbers doubling every four days,” Professor Esterman said.
NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard said on Wednesday that modelling by UNSW suggested that with a reproductive rate of 1.5, cases could reach 25,000 a day by the end of January.”
don’t worry the massive increase in cases will stop soon, if those fools catching COVID-19 are fed up enough of having to access testing then they won’t ever be cases, it’s a win
People all over Sydney are facing huge waits at COVID testing centres and some are even being turned away as case numbers continue to climb. The soaring case numbers and testing requirements for interstate travel are causing huge queues at many testing clinics, and some people are being forced to wait for several hours in their cars. At the Fairfield testing centre in Sydney’s west, some people say they were told their test results would take 72 hours to be returned due to the high demand.
all good though, from where Corruption are sitting the health system is coping nicely
Despite the increase in COVID cases, the number of people needing hospital care has remained steady. There are 215 people in hospital, including 24 in intensive care.
seems pretty steady, they were gloating about 150 last week, 215 = 150 for steadiness
Compared to the earlier Delta variant, Omicron multiplies itself 70 times more quickly in tissues that line airway passages, which may facilitate person-to-person spread, they said. But in lung tissues, Omicron replicates 10 times more slowly than the original version of the coronavirus, which might contribute to less-severe illness.
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investigation is on going…
being the Omacron variant thrives & multiples in the UPPER Respiratory Tract (Nose & Throat)
it makes it easier not only to spread by coughing & sneezing, but by merely breathing as well.
…but they’re suggesting that
rather than wearing loose fitting masks merely to catch the stray droplet
it’s advised we employ metal nose-clip style masks to tighten things up.
Mrs m was informed this afternoon that someone at a funeral she played for earlier this week tested positive for covid.
The fun starts in trying to figure out, if positive, how many people she could have spread it to:
She had 5 (five) social events yesterday, which are: playing for a funeral, playing for a small concert (audience on zoom), a visit from a neighbour, shopping at Woolworths, and a social evening with a picnic (shared food) and singing in a choir with a symphony orchestra.
This morning she had lunch at the RSL.
Other social events over the previous days.
So if she is positive, she could have spread it to a heck of a lot of people.
She got tested this afternoon. Looks like her two social events this Sunday may have to be cancelled.
“Adrian Esterman, chair of biostatistics and epidemiology at the University of South Australia, said the number indicated cases were growing “at a very steep rate”.
nah it’s all right because NSWuhan are starting from a much lower rate than VIC, see
That “scientists” graph is wrong. And the curve is wrong. The first step is exponential growth, second is quadratic growth, third is linear growth.
Mrs m was informed this afternoon that someone at a funeral she played for earlier this week tested positive for covid.
The fun starts in trying to figure out, if positive, how many people she could have spread it to:
She had 5 (five) social events yesterday, which are: playing for a funeral, playing for a small concert (audience on zoom), a visit from a neighbour, shopping at Woolworths, and a social evening with a picnic (shared food) and singing in a choir with a symphony orchestra.
This morning she had lunch at the RSL.
Other social events over the previous days.
So if she is positive, she could have spread it to a heck of a lot of people.
She got tested this afternoon. Looks like her two social events this Sunday may have to be cancelled.
On news tonight, testing stations in Melbourne overloaded, at least one had to shut down and another had a 3 hour wait for testing.
> playing for a small concert (audience on zoom)
That’s 13 people.
> singing in a choir with a symphony orchestra.
That’s 12 people in the choir and about double that in the orchestra
“96 new cases of COVID-19 in the NNSWLHD Update for December 17” ……………( out of a total of 485 for the whole pandemic so far! That’s close to 20% of the entire total, just for one day!
Local Government Area has 96 new cases:
• Byron 57
• Ballina 18
• Lismore 9
• Tweed 8
• Clarence Valley 4
• Richmond Valley –
Yeah….. I know. I’ve self isolated for the last week, (Ize wheelie bin on holidays) and ain’t gone out the front gate, until yesterday. Who knows WTF the rules are now????.
I go off to town, all prepared with my mask and QR code check-in app, as I usually would. Nobody told me!!!
All the masks are gone, including shop/woolies staff, and QR code signs taken down. All gone. 🤔😮😕🙄
“96 new cases of COVID-19 in the NNSWLHD Update for December 17” ……………( out of a total of 485 for the whole pandemic so far! That’s close to 20% of the entire total, just for one day!
Local Government Area has 96 new cases:
• Byron 57
• Ballina 18
• Lismore 9
• Tweed 8
• Clarence Valley 4
• Richmond Valley –
Yeah….. I know. I’ve self isolated for the last week, (Ize wheelie bin on holidays) and ain’t gone out the front gate, until yesterday. Who knows WTF the rules are now????.
I go off to town, all prepared with my mask and QR code check-in app, as I usually would. Nobody told me!!!
All the masks are gone, including shop/woolies staff, and QR code signs taken down. All gone. 🤔😮😕🙄
Just sayin’, hey what but.
The current strategy is to do absolutely nothing and see how that goes…
“96 new cases of COVID-19 in the NNSWLHD Update for December 17” ……………( out of a total of 485 for the whole pandemic so far! That’s close to 20% of the entire total, just for one day!
Local Government Area has 96 new cases:
• Byron 57
• Ballina 18
• Lismore 9
• Tweed 8
• Clarence Valley 4
• Richmond Valley –
Yeah….. I know. I’ve self isolated for the last week, (Ize wheelie bin on holidays) and ain’t gone out the front gate, until yesterday. Who knows WTF the rules are now????.
I go off to town, all prepared with my mask and QR code check-in app, as I usually would. Nobody told me!!!
All the masks are gone, including shop/woolies staff, and QR code signs taken down. All gone. 🤔😮😕🙄
Just sayin’, hey what but.
NSW has given up chasing COVID. Completely given up.
And so it is that Perrottet drags the whole country into the mire.
“96 new cases of COVID-19 in the NNSWLHD Update for December 17” ……………( out of a total of 485 for the whole pandemic so far! That’s close to 20% of the entire total, just for one day!
Local Government Area has 96 new cases:
• Byron 57
• Ballina 18
• Lismore 9
• Tweed 8
• Clarence Valley 4
• Richmond Valley –
Yeah….. I know. I’ve self isolated for the last week, (Ize wheelie bin on holidays) and ain’t gone out the front gate, until yesterday. Who knows WTF the rules are now????.
I go off to town, all prepared with my mask and QR code check-in app, as I usually would. Nobody told me!!!
All the masks are gone, including shop/woolies staff, and QR code signs taken down. All gone. 🤔😮😕🙄
Just sayin’, hey what but.
The current strategy is to do absolutely nothing and see how that goes…
“96 new cases of COVID-19 in the NNSWLHD Update for December 17” ……………( out of a total of 485 for the whole pandemic so far! That’s close to 20% of the entire total, just for one day!
Local Government Area has 96 new cases:
• Byron 57
• Ballina 18
• Lismore 9
• Tweed 8
• Clarence Valley 4
• Richmond Valley –
Yeah….. I know. I’ve self isolated for the last week, (Ize wheelie bin on holidays) and ain’t gone out the front gate, until yesterday. Who knows WTF the rules are now????.
I go off to town, all prepared with my mask and QR code check-in app, as I usually would. Nobody told me!!!
All the masks are gone, including shop/woolies staff, and QR code signs taken down. All gone. 🤔😮😕🙄
Just sayin’, hey what but.
The current strategy is to do absolutely nothing and see how that goes…
Queensland has reintroduced mandatory masks,
See, at least that’s something, New South Sweden has given up the ghost…
Pfizer is testing three doses of its COVID-19 vaccine in babies and preschoolers after the usual two doses didn’t appear strong enough for some of the children.
Pfizer is testing three doses of its COVID-19 vaccine in babies and preschoolers after the usual two doses didn’t appear strong enough for some of the children.
Aren’t kids just getting 1/4 (or is it 1/2) the adult dose?
So, I had my first ever COVID test yesterday and, I am sure they know what they’re doing but, I don’t think they did it properly. I don’t feel the swabbing was deep enough…
So, I had my first ever COVID test yesterday and, I am sure they know what they’re doing but, I don’t think they did it properly. I don’t feel the swabbing was deep enough…
So, I had my first ever COVID test yesterday and, I am sure they know what they’re doing but, I don’t think they did it properly. I don’t feel the swabbing was deep enough…
I’ve never had a covid test or a flu test.
I’ve never had a flu test but given the situation the world is in and my symptoms I thought it prudent to get a COVID test…
Pfizer is testing three doses of its COVID-19 vaccine in babies and preschoolers after the usual two doses didn’t appear strong enough for some of the children.
Aren’t kids just getting 1/4 (or is it 1/2) the adult dose?
NSW Health says the Omicron variant of COVID-19 has “likely” accounted for the majority of today’s 2,482 COVID-19 cases — the highest daily figure recorded in Australia since the start of the pandemic.
If you can’t get outside or improve ventilation, masks are also a good way to reduce transmission. University of Melbourne professor of epidemiology Tony Blakely said two people wearing masks reduced their chances of catching COVID-19 by more than 75 per cent. “If we’re going out for social events around Christmas time, keep the mask on as much as you can,” he said.
Oh And Remember When Everyone Threw Shit At Any Idiot Who Dared Suggest ChAdOx1-S/nCoV-19 Was Crap
A professorial fellow in epidemiology at The University of Melbourne, Professor Tony Blakely, agreed, theorising that the UK’s current experience of Omicron may be because its population had AstraZeneca as the primary vaccination course. “It is highly probable that what experiencing now will be a forerunner of what happens in other countries,” he told the ABC. “Especially countries that have also used AstraZeneca, as less effective than the mRNA vaccines at preventing infection with Omicron.”
Ah Well Who Would Trust So-Called “Experts” Anyway
I doubt the pollies forgot behavioral psychology at all
right down the chain of influence
other day the nurse that delivered my immunization was making all the right noises, put it into my head that covid might devolve to something more benign, like the common cold did apparently, I remarked how’s that going?
but the telling thing was when I mentioned i’d told the daughter to get N95 masks and that both workers and clients would need them, to which, if I heard right, she responded but will they use them?
I doubt the pollies forgot behavioral psychology at all
right down the chain of influence
other day the nurse that delivered my immunization was making all the right noises, put it into my head that covid might devolve to something more benign, like the common cold did apparently, I remarked how’s that going?
but the telling thing was when I mentioned i’d told the daughter to get N95 masks and that both workers and clients would need them, to which, if I heard right, she responded but will they use them?
and that gets straight to the truth of it
We intend to mask up in public. Indoors and outdoors. And try to keep our distance from other people, and wash or sterilise our hands as we do now.
I doubt the pollies forgot behavioral psychology at all
right down the chain of influence
other day the nurse that delivered my immunization was making all the right noises, put it into my head that covid might devolve to something more benign, like the common cold did apparently, I remarked how’s that going?
but the telling thing was when I mentioned i’d told the daughter to get N95 masks and that both workers and clients would need them, to which, if I heard right, she responded but will they use them?
and that gets straight to the truth of it
We intend to mask up in public. Indoors and outdoors. And try to keep our distance from other people, and wash or sterilise our hands as we do now.
I have some social contacts that make up an essential part of my (limited) social life, family, between them the contact range is very broad, so the risk of contact for me the lady I consider quite high, and soon the way things are trending across the country
christmas contact could be risky, not sure yet
it would take quite a lot to keep the lady away from family over christmas
for the moment those plans are locked in, subject to review of course nearer the date
we expect, lady and me, a lot is going to turn to shit in january, unfortunately, the masters of endemic covid are getting their way
should be locked up for it, but I don’t make or administer policy at that level
ah, so-called “experts” in WA, what would they know about
yeah endemic covid is a bullshit program
what exactly the advocates don’t want is a picture that adds all the bullshit up
the variants you can add together, they instead encourage a negative conceptualization, same applies addition of other infections, like flu etc
negation is the theme, reduces dissonance
you can add all the vaccine injuries and more minor events, and the inconvenience of being unwell for quite a while, add them to risks associated with circulating covid, again it’s negation, negation, negation
the idea of covid evolving into something more benign, again negative, nothing of the real world of actual things, no evidence for that exists at this point
the background to it, to make it work, is to make opposition to endemic covid seem irrational
it’s enough to speculate there exists are largely unabstracted dimension of theory of mind, theory of behavior, even motivational theory, that has about it the view conceptualization ought be negative, a social force that encourages it for the purpose of normalizing whatever
and perhaps it is naturally, for many people, a social resource, even an ideological resource
ah, so-called “experts” in WA, what would they know about
yeah endemic covid is a bullshit program
what exactly the advocates don’t want is a picture that adds all the bullshit up
the variants you can add together, they instead encourage a negative conceptualization, same applies addition of other infections, like flu etc
negation is the theme, reduces dissonance
you can add all the vaccine injuries and more minor events, and the inconvenience of being unwell for quite a while, add them to risks associated with circulating covid, again it’s negation, negation, negation
the idea of covid evolving into something more benign, again negative, nothing of the real world of actual things, no evidence for that exists at this point
the background to it, to make it work, is to make opposition to endemic covid seem irrational
it’s enough to speculate there exists are largely unabstracted dimension of theory of mind, theory of behavior, even motivational theory, that has about it the view conceptualization ought be negative, a social force that encourages it for the purpose of normalizing whatever
and perhaps it is naturally, for many people, a social resource, even an ideological resource
As vaccination rates approach 100 percent case numbers approach infinity.
Something’s not right there, I’ll have another look at it.
Scratches head.
What brought that on?
Kind of makes sense though. As vax stats increase, restrictions relax. Ultimately we’ll be getting 10000s of cases a day but, hopefully, only a handful of deaths.
As vaccination rates approach 100 percent case numbers approach infinity.
Something’s not right there, I’ll have another look at it.
Scratches head.
What brought that on?
Kind of makes sense though. As vax stats increase, restrictions relax. Ultimately we’ll be getting 10000s of cases a day but, hopefully, only a handful of deaths.
Just about everyone wearing mask in shops in Toowoomba today. A very few non-wearers, may some who just forgot, maybe some ‘freedom-fighters’. Either way, almost everyone doing the right thing.
Then, on the news, video of all of the mob on the Gold Coast, all those people who’d been absolutely aching to get into Qld for the Xmas hols.
Just about everyone wearing mask in shops in Toowoomba today. A very few non-wearers, may some who just forgot, maybe some ‘freedom-fighters’. Either way, almost everyone doing the right thing.
Then, on the news, video of all of the mob on the Gold Coast, all those people who’d been absolutely aching to get into Qld for the Xmas hols.
Not a mask on any of ‘em.
Gawd ‘elp all of us.
You don’t get covid if you swim in the ocean, swim in salt water.
Kind of makes sense though. As vax stats increase, restrictions relax. Ultimately we’ll be getting 10000s of cases a day but, hopefully, only a handful of deaths.
Just about everyone wearing mask in shops in Toowoomba today. A very few non-wearers, may some who just forgot, maybe some ‘freedom-fighters’. Either way, almost everyone doing the right thing.
Then, on the news, video of all of the mob on the Gold Coast, all those people who’d been absolutely aching to get into Qld for the Xmas hols.
Not a mask on any of ‘em.
Gawd ‘elp all of us.
You don’t get covid if you swim in the ocean, swim in salt water.
The sea is over 160 km away.
I suppose i could nick a few bags of salt from the renal unit, and fill the bath tub….
Just about everyone wearing mask in shops in Toowoomba today. A very few non-wearers, may some who just forgot, maybe some ‘freedom-fighters’. Either way, almost everyone doing the right thing.
Then, on the news, video of all of the mob on the Gold Coast, all those people who’d been absolutely aching to get into Qld for the Xmas hols.
Not a mask on any of ‘em.
Gawd ‘elp all of us.
You don’t get covid if you swim in the ocean, swim in salt water.
I remember when in the seventies reverse swing was first discovered in Pakistan.
It went on to devastate England but in South Africa they suddenly discovered a vaccine against bottle tops and sandpaper that has virtually seen an end to the ravages visited upon batsmen by the Reverse Swing.
I remember when in the seventies reverse swing was first discovered in Pakistan.
It went on to devastate England but in South Africa they suddenly discovered a vaccine against bottle tops and sandpaper that has virtually seen an end to the ravages visited upon batsmen by the Reverse Swing.
I remember when in the seventies reverse swing was first discovered in Pakistan.
It went on to devastate England but in South Africa they suddenly discovered a vaccine against bottle tops and sandpaper that has virtually seen an end to the ravages visited upon batsmen by the Reverse Swing.
Kind of makes sense though. As vax stats increase, restrictions relax. Ultimately we’ll be getting 10000s of cases a day but, hopefully, only a handful of deaths.
Yes, but obviously with a lot fewer deaths than Sweden.
They are now dropped down to number 56 on the deaths per million chart, and Austria will pass them very shortly. A lot of Europe – you could almost say most of Europe – is higher up the chart.
Just about everyone wearing mask in shops in Toowoomba today. A very few non-wearers, may some who just forgot, maybe some ‘freedom-fighters’. Either way, almost everyone doing the right thing.
Then, on the news, video of all of the mob on the Gold Coast, all those people who’d been absolutely aching to get into Qld for the Xmas hols.
Not a mask on any of ‘em.
Gawd ‘elp all of us.
You don’t get covid if you swim in the ocean, swim in salt water.
Kind of makes sense though. As vax stats increase, restrictions relax. Ultimately we’ll be getting 10000s of cases a day but, hopefully, only a handful of deaths.
Yes, but obviously with a lot fewer deaths than Sweden.
They are now dropped down to number 56 on the deaths per million chart, and Austria will pass them very shortly. A lot of Europe – you could almost say most of Europe – is higher up the chart.
Their deaths percap are 16 times ours so I’m pretty happy with our strategy (thumbs up emoji)
Yes, but obviously with a lot fewer deaths than Sweden.
They are now dropped down to number 56 on the deaths per million chart, and Austria will pass them very shortly. A lot of Europe – you could almost say most of Europe – is higher up the chart.
Their deaths percap are 16 times ours so I’m pretty happy with our strategy (thumbs up emoji)
More than 800,000 Americans have now died from COVID-19, according to data from John Hopkins University released on Tuesday.
The “tragic milestone”, as President Joe Biden called it in a statement, makes the US death toll the highest in the world. Of the 5.3 million known COVID-19 deaths, the US now accounts for 15 percent, despite making up just 4 percent of the world’s population.
For some context, 800,000 is the equivalent of the entire population of North Dakota. And is more than the number of Americans who die from heart disease each year.
The true number of deaths is likely to be even higher because of cases that were unconfirmed or concealed. It is predicted to rise to over 880,000 by March 2022, according to a forecasting model from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington.
More than 25 percent – 200,000 – of the deaths came after vaccines became widely available in April this year. Since then, around 200 million Americans have been fully vaccinated – over 60 percent of the population. It might sound like a lot, but it’s not enough.
“Almost all the people dying are now dying preventable deaths,” Dr Chris Beyrer, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told the Guardian.
“And that’s because they’re not immunized.”
Biden reiterated these sentiments. In light of the vast majority of deaths being in the unvaccinated, he urged those who haven’t yet to get a shot.
“Do your patriotic duty to keep our country safe, to protect yourself and those around you, and to honor the memory of all those we have lost,” he said.
They are now dropped down to number 56 on the deaths per million chart, and Austria will pass them very shortly. A lot of Europe – you could almost say most of Europe – is higher up the chart.
Their deaths percap are 16 times ours so I’m pretty happy with our strategy (thumbs up emoji)
the chap has a detached uppering middle class tone about him, could be the perfect person to deal with delivery of endemic covid in abstractions around numbers and statistics
The decision to open borders in February all but guarantees months without COVID are drawing to a close and Hamilton believes Western Australians will “regret opening up”.
“They don’t know how good they have it here with no masks to go shopping, commerce thriving and no restriction of movement. It’s almost like COVID doesn’t exist. It is absolutely wonderful,” she says.
She remembers the experience of the SA town of Robe which became “blacklisted” when the border with Victoria opened earlier this year and a COVID-positive visitor came to town.
“It is fine for the Commonwealth government and state premiers to say that we need to live with COVID but it is small business and people who bear the brunt.”
The decision to open borders in February all but guarantees months without COVID are drawing to a close and Hamilton believes Western Australians will “regret opening up”.
“They don’t know how good they have it here with no masks to go shopping, commerce thriving and no restriction of movement. It’s almost like COVID doesn’t exist. It is absolutely wonderful,” she says.
She remembers the experience of the SA town of Robe which became “blacklisted” when the border with Victoria opened earlier this year and a COVID-positive visitor came to town.
“It is fine for the Commonwealth government and state premiers to say that we need to live with COVID but it is small business and people who bear the brunt.”
The decision to open borders in February all but guarantees months without COVID are drawing to a close and Hamilton believes Western Australians will “regret opening up”.
“They don’t know how good they have it here with no masks to go shopping, commerce thriving and no restriction of movement. It’s almost like COVID doesn’t exist. It is absolutely wonderful,” she says.
She remembers the experience of the SA town of Robe which became “blacklisted” when the border with Victoria opened earlier this year and a COVID-positive visitor came to town.
“It is fine for the Commonwealth government and state premiers to say that we need to live with COVID but it is small business and people who bear the brunt.”
The decision to open borders in February all but guarantees months without COVID are drawing to a close and Hamilton believes Western Australians will “regret opening up”.
“They don’t know how good they have it here with no masks to go shopping, commerce thriving and no restriction of movement. It’s almost like COVID doesn’t exist. It is absolutely wonderful,” she says.
She remembers the experience of the SA town of Robe which became “blacklisted” when the border with Victoria opened earlier this year and a COVID-positive visitor came to town.
“It is fine for the Commonwealth government and state premiers to say that we need to live with COVID but it is small business and people who bear the brunt.”
I am not looking forward to it.
Yes. The notion is frightening. As is the actuality. The “opening up” here worries me a lot.
The decision to open borders in February all but guarantees months without COVID are drawing to a close and Hamilton believes Western Australians will “regret opening up”.
“They don’t know how good they have it here with no masks to go shopping, commerce thriving and no restriction of movement. It’s almost like COVID doesn’t exist. It is absolutely wonderful,” she says.
She remembers the experience of the SA town of Robe which became “blacklisted” when the border with Victoria opened earlier this year and a COVID-positive visitor came to town.
“It is fine for the Commonwealth government and state premiers to say that we need to live with COVID but it is small business and people who bear the brunt.”
I am not looking forward to it.
Yes. The notion is frightening. As is the actuality. The “opening up” here worries me a lot.
We are essentially going to undo all of our hard work and have happen somewhere near what we all feared in March/April 2020.
The decision to open borders in February all but guarantees months without COVID are drawing to a close and Hamilton believes Western Australians will “regret opening up”.
“They don’t know how good they have it here with no masks to go shopping, commerce thriving and no restriction of movement. It’s almost like COVID doesn’t exist. It is absolutely wonderful,” she says.
She remembers the experience of the SA town of Robe which became “blacklisted” when the border with Victoria opened earlier this year and a COVID-positive visitor came to town.
“It is fine for the Commonwealth government and state premiers to say that we need to live with COVID but it is small business and people who bear the brunt.”
I am not looking forward to it.
Yes. The notion is frightening. As is the actuality. The “opening up” here worries me a lot.
the only properly opening up with be the size of the human petri dish for covid
Yes. The notion is frightening. As is the actuality. The “opening up” here worries me a lot.
We are essentially going to undo all of our hard work and have happen somewhere near what we all feared in March/April 2020.
You don’t think the vaccination program has worked?
vaccines work
no good data yet on whether it’ll kill more people sooner with heart attacks, of mRNA, guess we’ll find out eventually
of omicron no data yet of rate of sequelae, post-covid whatever, known as long covid
no data yet, projections, that i’ve seen, regard the contribution of endemic covid in vaccinated population to unfavorable covid evolution, evolution potential
but I guess it will emerge, of there’s anything to emerge, if anything can be extracted from the covid infection noise, isn’t lost in the noise
mixing vaccines helps with the noise also, increases it
“It is fine for the Commonwealth government and state premiers to say that we need to live with COVID but it is small business and people who bear the brunt.”
So, over here, we have ‘small business’ squawking the loudest in support of opening up the borders, because “ït’s small business that bears the brunt” of any border restrictions, while over there we have ‘small business’ complaining about the prospect of opening the borders because “it’ll be small business that bears the brunt“of that.
“It is fine for the Commonwealth government and state premiers to say that we need to live with COVID but it is small business and people who bear the brunt.”
So, over here, we have ‘small business’ squawking the loudest in support of opening up the borders, because “ït’s small business that bears the brunt” of any border restrictions, while over there we have ‘small business’ complaining about the prospect of opening the borders because “it’ll be small business that bears the brunt“of that.
“It is fine for the Commonwealth government and state premiers to say that we need to live with COVID but it is small business and people who bear the brunt.”
So, over here, we have ‘small business’ squawking the loudest in support of opening up the borders, because “ït’s small business that bears the brunt” of any border restrictions, while over there we have ‘small business’ complaining about the prospect of opening the borders because “it’ll be small business that bears the brunt“of that.
Yeah.. How does that work?
Because we are not in any restrictions or lockdowns, no masks, no nothing. Just like normal except for the borders being shut. Opening the borders will let the virus in, it is inevitable. People fear this will trigger a wave of restrictions, or even people voluntarily deciding not to go out too much for a while.
So, over here, we have ‘small business’ squawking the loudest in support of opening up the borders, because “ït’s small business that bears the brunt” of any border restrictions, while over there we have ‘small business’ complaining about the prospect of opening the borders because “it’ll be small business that bears the brunt“of that.
Yeah.. How does that work?
Because we are not in any restrictions or lockdowns, no masks, no nothing. Just like normal except for the borders being shut. Opening the borders will let the virus in, it is inevitable. People fear this will trigger a wave of restrictions, or even people voluntarily deciding not to go out too much for a while.
I get that.
I was more a comment at the captain’s cynicism about small business complaining either way.
Because we are not in any restrictions or lockdowns, no masks, no nothing. Just like normal except for the borders being shut. Opening the borders will let the virus in, it is inevitable. People fear this will trigger a wave of restrictions, or even people voluntarily deciding not to go out too much for a while.
I get that.
I was more a comment at the captain’s cynicism about small business complaining either way.
It may be that the recent situation has awakened an atavistic desire in WAustralians to be a separate country. It’s long been there just under the surface, the resentment at how the rest of the country rides on the coat-tails of WA.
“It is fine for the Commonwealth government and state premiers to say that we need to live with COVID but it is small business and people who bear the brunt.”
So, over here, we have ‘small business’ squawking the loudest in support of opening up the borders, because “ït’s small business that bears the brunt” of any border restrictions, while over there we have ‘small business’ complaining about the prospect of opening the borders because “it’ll be small business that bears the brunt“of that.
It will be intetesting to see if Omicron breaches the WA border before the official opening considering how transmissable it seems to be.
Because we are not in any restrictions or lockdowns, no masks, no nothing. Just like normal except for the borders being shut. Opening the borders will let the virus in, it is inevitable. People fear this will trigger a wave of restrictions, or even people voluntarily deciding not to go out too much for a while.
I get that.
I was more a comment at the captain’s cynicism about small business complaining either way.
‘opening up’ is actually a radical program for endemic covid, it’s extreme
to let a virus like covid go because it is too contagious to contain, that’s seriously radical, being normalized
Changed “Close Contact” definition to members of the same household only.
Effectively: few public records of contact tracing available.
At the same time, I’m allowed into the NSW “Border Zone” with no requirement to be tested on return. I will be wearing a mask when unavoidably in close to others. I will try not to do much “out and about” stuff.
Because we are not in any restrictions or lockdowns, no masks, no nothing. Just like normal except for the borders being shut. Opening the borders will let the virus in, it is inevitable. People fear this will trigger a wave of restrictions, or even people voluntarily deciding not to go out too much for a while.
I get that.
I was more a comment at the captain’s cynicism about small business complaining either way.
It may be that the recent situation has awakened an atavistic desire in WAustralians to be a separate country. It’s long been there just under the surface, the resentment at how the rest of the country rides on the coat-tails of WA.
and forget that before mining came to WA we got a lot of help from the east. we still do in various ways.
“It is fine for the Commonwealth government and state premiers to say that we need to live with COVID but it is small business and people who bear the brunt.”
So, over here, we have ‘small business’ squawking the loudest in support of opening up the borders, because “ït’s small business that bears the brunt” of any border restrictions, while over there we have ‘small business’ complaining about the prospect of opening the borders because “it’ll be small business that bears the brunt“of that.
It will be intetesting to see if Omicron breaches the WA border before the official opening considering how transmissable it seems to be.
They just need to take advice from the sibeen household. Didn’t spread in that house.
I was more a comment at the captain’s cynicism about small business complaining either way.
It may be that the recent situation has awakened an atavistic desire in WAustralians to be a separate country. It’s long been there just under the surface, the resentment at how the rest of the country rides on the coat-tails of WA.
and forget that before mining came to WA we got a lot of help from the east. we still do in various ways.
This. But I would say that. Being old and being from the East.
So, over here, we have ‘small business’ squawking the loudest in support of opening up the borders, because “ït’s small business that bears the brunt” of any border restrictions, while over there we have ‘small business’ complaining about the prospect of opening the borders because “it’ll be small business that bears the brunt“of that.
It will be intetesting to see if Omicron breaches the WA border before the official opening considering how transmissable it seems to be.
They just need to take advice from the sibeen household. Didn’t spread in that house.
Changed “Close Contact” definition to members of the same household only.
Effectively: few public records of contact tracing available.
At the same time, I’m allowed into the NSW “Border Zone” with no requirement to be tested on return. I will be wearing a mask when unavoidably in close to others. I will try not to do much “out and about” stuff.
We’re been keeping a close eye on the numbers here in Queensland, and have decided that we’re going back into full lockdown in this house. All our shopping, etc, will get delivered, no trips anywhere unless it’s absolutely necessary.
I followed numbers in Victoria & NSW and once they got up to about 40 – 50 new cases per day it took off substantially from there. We passed that threshold here today.
Because we are not in any restrictions or lockdowns, no masks, no nothing. Just like normal except for the borders being shut. Opening the borders will let the virus in, it is inevitable. People fear this will trigger a wave of restrictions, or even people voluntarily deciding not to go out too much for a while.
I get that.
I was more a comment at the captain’s cynicism about small business complaining either way.
It may be that the recent situation has awakened an atavistic desire in WAustralians to be a separate country. It’s long been there just under the surface, the resentment at how the rest of the country rides on the coat-tails of WA.
I don’t think so. It is not really a topic of general conversation. WA is too sparsely populated to survive on its own, some other country could easily sail over and claim the mining regions for themselves. Best situation is the status quo.
The South African fitness instructor has twice been infected with COVID-19 — first last December, likely with the Delta variant, and a year later with Omicron.
“The symptoms are totally different,” Ms Mompei said.
In between the two infections, she was double-vaccinated.
The first time, her senses of taste and smell were dulled and she experienced fatigue. Recovery took nearly 10 days.
This time around, Ms Mompei couldn’t shake the feeling of a weight bearing down on her body, and found herself trying to fight uncontrollably itchy eyes and a drilling headache.
“You know when you’ve been in the dark for too long, and then when you go into the light?” she said.
So, over here, we have ‘small business’ squawking the loudest in support of opening up the borders, because “ït’s small business that bears the brunt” of any border restrictions, while over there we have ‘small business’ complaining about the prospect of opening the borders because “it’ll be small business that bears the brunt“of that.
It will be intetesting to see if Omicron breaches the WA border before the official opening considering how transmissable it seems to be.
They just need to take advice from the sibeen household. Didn’t spread in that house.
What makes you doubt it? It is possible. I wonder how many samples are actually sequenced.
NSW has said they will only sequence where it is required for deciding treatment of seriously ill people.
Which pretty much means very few people know which strain they have, and in general the numbers of various strains is not in the database. Presumably for anywhere really.
So having asked the question, I sought an answer. This paper was published back in May this year and says:
“The strategy in Australia, where genome sequencing is attempted in the majority, if not all, COVID-19 cases, not only provides the best possible opportunity to detect VOCs, but has also resulted in one of the most complete national data sets in the world with 58% of positive cases sequenced, allowing historical observations of VOIs as they are declared. “
While you could quibble that 58% is not much of a majority, it’s still more than I expected.
don’t worry with exploding numbers soon and The Economy Must Grow suffering as a consequence soon these fucking Australians won’t be sequencing most of their cases any more
The South African fitness instructor has twice been infected with COVID-19 — first last December, likely with the Delta variant, and a year later with Omicron.
“The symptoms are totally different,” Ms Mompei said.
In between the two infections, she was double-vaccinated.
The first time, her senses of taste and smell were dulled and she experienced fatigue. Recovery took nearly 10 days.
This time around, Ms Mompei couldn’t shake the feeling of a weight bearing down on her body, and found herself trying to fight uncontrollably itchy eyes and a drilling headache.
“You know when you’ve been in the dark for too long, and then when you go into the light?” she said.
And some information particularly about Victoria, which also shows that quite a goodly proportion of samples labelled as positive cannot be sequenced.
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Between Jan 25, 2020, and Jan 31, 2021, there were 20 451 laboratory-confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Victoria, Australia, of which 15 431 were submitted for sequencing, and 11 711 met all quality control metrics and were included in our analysis
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So that is again your just a tad more than 50% could be sequenced.
don’t worry with exploding numbers soon and The Economy Must Grow suffering as a consequence soon these fucking Australians won’t be sequencing most of their cases any more
the plan is not to keep up with it, keeping up with it would make it seem containable, any serious contraction of numbers with a trend of further contraction would suggest it can be eliminated, and if you eliminate it how is everyone to get their free live virus immunization from circulating virus, booster that way, constant boosters
saves the government a lot of interventions with the virus circulating, and they need plenty of it really, an obscene amount of it to get and maintain the herd immunity
some of the herd immunity will even be imagined, which will help people imagine it into existence, make it real
meanwhile, people are irrationally avoiding unnecessarily getting covid, worries, fearful, anxiety, is the theme of the news, of course those in the news rooms are jamming their fingers up the noses of strangers then their own, doing nothing like irrationally avoiding exposure, or passing it on
worth remembering media is in the contagion business
so maybe one of the genius intellects can explain this one to us, the only explanation we could come up with is that the proinfectionists are disingenuous lying fuckwits but aside from that
if they are so supportive of things being normal, like “old normal”, and “back to normal”, then when they come across a place where there are “no masks to go shopping, commerce thriving and no restriction of movement. It’s almost like COVID doesn’t exist. It is absolutely wonderful”, why the fuck do they argue that such a place needs to welcome the COVID-19 and somehow as a consequence go back to the old being normal
And some information particularly about Victoria, which also shows that quite a goodly proportion of samples labelled as positive cannot be sequenced.
——————————————————————————————————————————
Between Jan 25, 2020, and Jan 31, 2021, there were 20 451 laboratory-confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Victoria, Australia, of which 15 431 were submitted for sequencing, and 11 711 met all quality control metrics and were included in our analysis
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So that is again your just a tad more than 50% could be sequenced.
so maybe one of the genius intellects can explain this one to us, the only explanation we could come up with is that the proinfectionists are disingenuous lying fuckwits but aside from that
if they are so supportive of things being normal, like “old normal”, and “back to normal”, then when they come across a place where there are “no masks to go shopping, commerce thriving and no restriction of movement. It’s almost like COVID doesn’t exist. It is absolutely wonderful”, why the fuck do they argue that such a place needs to welcome the COVID-19 and somehow as a consequence go back to the old being normal
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Don’t ask me. I don’t understand it, but then I’m just a dumbo geologist.
And some information particularly about Victoria, which also shows that quite a goodly proportion of samples labelled as positive cannot be sequenced.
——————————————————————————————————————————
Between Jan 25, 2020, and Jan 31, 2021, there were 20 451 laboratory-confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Victoria, Australia, of which 15 431 were submitted for sequencing, and 11 711 met all quality control metrics and were included in our analysis
—————————————————————————————————————————————-
So that is again your just a tad more than 50% could be sequenced.
so maybe one of the genius intellects can explain this one to us, the only explanation we could come up with is that the proinfectionists are disingenuous lying fuckwits but aside from that
if they are so supportive of things being normal, like “old normal”, and “back to normal”, then when they come across a place where there are “no masks to go shopping, commerce thriving and no restriction of movement. It’s almost like COVID doesn’t exist. It is absolutely wonderful”, why the fuck do they argue that such a place needs to welcome the COVID-19 and somehow as a consequence go back to the old being normal
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not sure I understand your proposition there, but i’ll pretend for a moment, have a bash
i’d guess many people have arrived at two ideas about the situation
a) given travel these days all over the globe it is impossible to stop covid wandering all over the globe, and travel can’t be too restricted because it’s one of the core attributes of human civilization
b) lockdowns and excessive interventions get in the way of adjustment to endemic covid (refer above), for context i’d add that more liberal cultures are more self-regulating, they devolve organization down to smaller elements of society
what is being offered by the government is vaccinations
The Netherlands has announced a strict lockdown over Christmas amid concerns over the Omicron coronavirus variant. Non-essential shops, bars, gyms hairdressers and other public venues will be closed until at least mid-January. Two guests per household will be allowed – four over the holidays. Prime Minister Mark Rutte said the measures were “unavoidable”. Events are not permitted other than funerals, weekly markets selling groceries and professional sports matches with no spectators. All schools will be closed until at least 9 January, while other lockdown measures will remain in place until at least 14 January.
Pardon¿
We thought getting infected, fucked, killed, that was what was unavoidable, inevitable, For The Economy Must Grow¿
The BBC’s Anna Holligan in The Hague said the announcement was being met with disbelief and dismay.
France, the Republic of Ireland and Germany have also announced measures designed to curb the infections.
The Netherlands has announced a strict lockdown over Christmas amid concerns over the Omicron coronavirus variant. Non-essential shops, bars, gyms hairdressers and other public venues will be closed until at least mid-January. Two guests per household will be allowed – four over the holidays. Prime Minister Mark Rutte said the measures were “unavoidable”. Events are not permitted other than funerals, weekly markets selling groceries and professional sports matches with no spectators. All schools will be closed until at least 9 January, while other lockdown measures will remain in place until at least 14 January.
Pardon¿
We thought getting infected, fucked, killed, that was what was unavoidable, inevitable, For The Economy Must Grow¿
The BBC’s Anna Holligan in The Hague said the announcement was being met with disbelief and dismay.
France, the Republic of Ireland and Germany have also announced measures designed to curb the infections.
Omicron COVID variant detected in 89 countries, cases doubling fast, says World Health Organization
sorry about our linkfail (fixed); here have this one to make up for it
In London, Mayor Sadiq Khan underscored the official concern about the climbing cases and their potential to overwhelm the UK’s health care system by declaring a major incident.
The 74-year-old is one of hundreds of thousands of people in the UK to contract the virus in a matter of weeks, with daily infections surging to nearly 90,000 on Saturday. May, who is also a qualified astrophysicist, said he and his wife, actress Anita Dobson, had been “incredibly careful” and were “being very hermit-like” since the pandemic struck, but took a risk on a birthday lunch last Saturday. He said everyone in attendance had received three doses of a COVID-19 vaccine and used rapid antigen tests, more commonly known as lateral flow tests in the UK, before arriving. “And in retrospect, perhaps we made the wrong decision. We could have seen him another time. But that’s history now,” he said.
The 74-year-old is one of hundreds of thousands of people in the UK to contract the virus in a matter of weeks, with daily infections surging to nearly 90,000 on Saturday. May, who is also a qualified astrophysicist, said he and his wife, actress Anita Dobson, had been “incredibly careful” and were “being very hermit-like” since the pandemic struck, but took a risk on a birthday lunch last Saturday. He said everyone in attendance had received three doses of a COVID-19 vaccine and used rapid antigen tests, more commonly known as lateral flow tests in the UK, before arriving. “And in retrospect, perhaps we made the wrong decision. We could have seen him another time. But that’s history now,” he said.
The British Medical Journal doesn’t appear to appreciate Facebook:
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635/rr-80
Rapid Response:
Open letter from The BMJ to Mark Zuckerberg
Dear Mark Zuckerberg,
We are Fiona Godlee and Kamran Abbasi, editors of The BMJ, one of the world’s oldest and most influential general medical journals. We are writing to raise serious concerns about the “fact checking” being undertaken by third party providers on behalf of Facebook/Meta.
In September, a former employee of Ventavia, a contract research company helping carry out the main Pfizer covid-19 vaccine trial, began providing The BMJ with dozens of internal company documents, photos, audio recordings, and emails. These materials revealed a host of poor clinical trial research practices occurring at Ventavia that could impact data integrity and patient safety. We also discovered that, despite receiving a direct complaint about these problems over a year ago, the FDA did not inspect Ventavia’s trial sites.
The BMJ commissioned an investigative reporter to write up the story for our journal. The article was published on 2 November, following legal review, external peer review and subject to The BMJ’s usual high level editorial oversight and review.
But from November 10, readers began reporting a variety of problems when trying to share our article. Some reported being unable to share it. Many others reported having their posts flagged with a warning about “Missing context … Independent fact-checkers say this information could mislead people.” Those trying to post the article were informed by Facebook that people who repeatedly share “false information” might have their posts moved lower in Facebook’s News Feed. Group administrators where the article was shared received messages from Facebook informing them that such posts were “partly false.”
Readers were directed to a “fact check” performed by a Facebook contractor named Lead Stories.
We find the “fact check” performed by Lead Stories to be inaccurate, incompetent and irresponsible.
— It fails to provide any assertions of fact that The BMJ article got wrong
— It has a nonsensical title: “Fact Check: The British Medical Journal Did NOT Reveal Disqualifying And Ignored Reports Of Flaws In Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Trials”
— The first paragraph inaccurately labels The BMJ a “news blog”
— It contains a screenshot of our article with a stamp over it stating “Flaws Reviewed,” despite the Lead Stories article not identifying anything false or untrue in The BMJ article
— It published the story on its website under a URL that contains the phrase “hoax-alert”
We have contacted Lead Stories, but they refuse to change anything about their article or actions that have led to Facebook flagging our article.
We have also contacted Facebook directly, requesting immediate removal of the “fact checking” label and any link to the Lead Stories article, thereby allowing our readers to freely share the article on your platform.
There is also a wider concern that we wish to raise. We are aware that The BMJ is not the only high quality information provider to have been affected by the incompetence of Meta’s fact checking regime. To give one other example, we would highlight the treatment by Instagram (also owned by Meta) of Cochrane, the international provider of high quality systematic reviews of the medical evidence. Rather than investing a proportion of Meta’s substantial profits to help ensure the accuracy of medical information shared through social media, you have apparently delegated responsibility to people incompetent in carrying out this crucial task. Fact checking has been a staple of good journalism for decades. What has happened in this instance should be of concern to anyone who values and relies on sources such as The BMJ.
We hope you will act swiftly: specifically to correct the error relating to The BMJ’s article and to review the processes that led to the error; and generally to reconsider your investment in and approach to fact checking overall.
Best wishes,
Fiona Godlee, editor in chief
Kamran Abbasi, incoming editor in chief
The BMJ
just started having me a read of that, let me unpick it as I go, ooh someone used characters in a potentially pejorative way, and more force to the adverse attention with diverse characters, talk of extremism, that has me thinking they are nutjobs, all of them
speculations about what an upside down flag indicates, probably largely wrong, more could mean this is not Australia, departure from egalitarian norms, ethics of, requirement of agreement from individuals, not imposing things
I might point out the introduction of covid, prospect of, is stressful for many people, in all sorts of ways, it’s a substantially radical thing to do, to release a virus because it’s too contagious to contain
and I won’t bother reading any more, other than to say lots of people are pro-vaccination but anti-endemic-covid, and of those people i’d add that they are substantially deprived the language to say so
and another thing that’s really irritating is web sites that want you to allow their marketing junk and have a “do it now” and a “maybe later” option, but no “piss off”.
and another thing that’s really irritating is web sites that want you to allow their marketing junk and have a “do it now” and a “maybe later” option, but no “piss off”.
and another thing that’s really irritating is web sites that want you to allow their marketing junk and have a “do it now” and a “maybe later” option, but no “piss off”.
Trivial, I know.
feel for these healthcare workers, they probably wish there was a “piss off” option for unvaccinated clients and not just “do it now” and “maybe later” for saving lives
and another thing that’s really irritating is web sites that want you to allow their marketing junk and have a “do it now” and a “maybe later” option, but no “piss off”.
Trivial, I know.
feel for these healthcare workers, they probably wish there was a “piss off” option for unvaccinated clients and not just “do it now” and “maybe later” for saving lives
normal coping
i’d expect it not going to be pretty by early as mid january, certainly by mid to late february, largely the SA-internal-normal that has existed will have been demolished
demolished for those with more ‘fluid’ loyalties, interstate, and international
Dan Suan
Yesterday at 02:09 ·
Hi Sydney,
I am sorry, but we have a problem.
We are sleepwalking into an Omicron disaster in January if we do not take immediate and effective action to limit the spread of Omicron before Christmas.
It’s too much to type, so I made a video explaining the problem. I’m sorry the quality is so bad.
I need to ask you to make time to watch this, and if you understand and agree with me and my colleagues, then I need you to make sure everyone you know in NSW also understands the problem.
The hour is very late and the opportunity to intervene grows shorter by the minute. Thousands of lives are at risk again.
We must deal with the facts as they are, not as we want them.
Only together can we crush Omicron transmission and prevent a catastrophe in January.
Best wishes to you and your families for the holiday season.
🐾🐾❤
Dan Suan | MBBSFRACPFRCPA PhD
Clinical Immunologist and Immunopathologist
Dan Suan
Yesterday at 02:09 ·
Hi Sydney,
I am sorry, but we have a problem.
We are sleepwalking into an Omicron disaster in January if we do not take immediate and effective action to limit the spread of Omicron before Christmas.
It’s too much to type, so I made a video explaining the problem. I’m sorry the quality is so bad.
I need to ask you to make time to watch this, and if you understand and agree with me and my colleagues, then I need you to make sure everyone you know in NSW also understands the problem.
The hour is very late and the opportunity to intervene grows shorter by the minute. Thousands of lives are at risk again.
We must deal with the facts as they are, not as we want them.
Only together can we crush Omicron transmission and prevent a catastrophe in January.
Best wishes to you and your families for the holiday season.
🐾🐾❤
Dan Suan | MBBSFRACPFRCPA PhD
Clinical Immunologist and Immunopathologist
wonder if all those “we don’t want masks” protesters in Perth are therefore in support of ongoing border restrictions because those would actually help keep community transmission at zero and therefore create no need for masks
Dan Suan
Yesterday at 02:09 ·
Hi Sydney,
I am sorry, but we have a problem.
We are sleepwalking into an Omicron disaster in January if we do not take immediate and effective action to limit the spread of Omicron before Christmas.
It’s too much to type, so I made a video explaining the problem. I’m sorry the quality is so bad.
I need to ask you to make time to watch this, and if you understand and agree with me and my colleagues, then I need you to make sure everyone you know in NSW also understands the problem.
The hour is very late and the opportunity to intervene grows shorter by the minute. Thousands of lives are at risk again.
We must deal with the facts as they are, not as we want them.
Only together can we crush Omicron transmission and prevent a catastrophe in January.
Best wishes to you and your families for the holiday season.
🐾🐾❤
Dan Suan | MBBSFRACPFRCPA PhD
Clinical Immunologist and Immunopathologist
so-called “expert” conspiracy theorists … you all decide whether legit’orn’t
more to it, hospitals stand as a wild contradiction to the policy of endemic covid, as a model, you can’t have endemic covid in a hospital, though I did hear or read somewhere the other day language softening the viewer to the idea it is, the propaganda is evolving, they spin it
i’d counter with an invitation to imagine medical staff in PPE, doctors, ambulance people etc, sort of gets more to the truth of it, saves a whole lot of bullshit
if doctors etc stop wearing PPE to deal with covid patients, or as a precaution, when they stop taking the precautions in case, then you might assume covid is no worse than a common cold
until then, that they do wear it, is inconvenient to the endemic covid advocates, highly inconvenient
Masks are finally mandatory in Tasmania in shops etc, from Tuesday. So I’ll have to wear one when I do my Xmas grocery Big Shop.
I’ve adjusted one of buffy’s masks to make it easier to wear (connected the two ear elastics with a thicker elastic from a pair of blue knickers, so I can wear it strapped around my head rather than just looped on my ears. My ears are too flexible for reliably secure ear loop hold).
i’m just now contemplating what the incidence of circulating covid might be, when reached that results in (enough of?) people not getting tested, not going home, not isolating, the transition numbers, the tipping point of you will, not just your average joe on the street, your usual endemic specimen, I mean example joe is probably already doing much of good work of progress that way in large part of the eastern states
but of the services, say the police force is probably a good example
couldn’t be too far away surely
the covid incidence stabilization numbers, the equilibrium
bit of unknown really, could it be down the track, say a year, herd immunity stabilizes covid incidence, what would it be looks into crystal ball
wild guess 2-5% of the population, after a way lot more followed by a contraction, but honestly I have no idea, not a clue
but whatever it is it will require a lot of self-imposed restriction on social contacts, basically mostly to do with swapping breathable air in near proximity, and confined spaces
Infectious diseases physician warns mandates may undermine compliance
Peter Collignon from ANU’s School of Clinical Medicine said he agreed with Mr Perrottet and said the roadmap should not be changed without the data to justify it. He said hospital admission rates had not soared, which is what he said he would expect if the vaccines were not providing protection against Omicron. But he said mandating those measures may not have the intended effect. “We’ll get poor compliance, I think, particularly over summer, if we overdo restrictions or even things like masks if there’s not good evidence they’ll make a huge amount of difference,” he said.
you’re right, consider a population that wears some masks, if you make masks mandatory, then obviously less of the population will actually wear masks
What
The
Fuck
also
The number of people with COVID-19 in NSW’s hospitals jumped more than 15 per cent in the 24 hours to 8pm yesterday after the state recorded 2,501 new cases. NSW has 261 people being treated for COVID-19 in hospital, which has increased by 55 people in two days.
do the Left side of ABC even talk to the Right side or is it all shills
a host oriented idea might be that people are slacking off the testing
or maybe a virus oriented thought, maybe this is the Mild Omicron we’re all talking about
Hmmm.
Might not take much for a mild version and subsequent complacency to be replaced by a deadlier version that spreads as people are slack
I wonder if a more efficient version could be made in a lab and released and its not detected as being modified by humans
a host oriented idea might be that people are slacking off the testing
or maybe a virus oriented thought, maybe this is the Mild Omicron we’re all talking about
Hmmm.
Might not take much for a mild version and subsequent complacency to be replaced by a deadlier version that spreads as people are slack
I wonder if a more efficient version could be made in a lab and released and its not detected as being modified by humans
a host oriented idea might be that people are slacking off the testing
or maybe a virus oriented thought, maybe this is the Mild Omicron we’re all talking about
Hmmm.
Might not take much for a mild version and subsequent complacency to be replaced by a deadlier version that spreads as people are slack
I wonder if a more efficient version could be made in a lab and released and its not detected as being modified by humans
possible though not really necessary, natural selection is plenty effective, if you wanted to weaponise a nasty virus all you really need to do is open up the evolutionary space and let it explore, kind of like a country could just unrestrict its spread and have a mix of immunities and vaccinations and oh … wait …
National cabinet to hold emergency meeting tomorrow
(ABC News)
National cabinet will be convened tomorrow for an emergency meeting on the Omicron variant.
The group was slated to meet in February, but state and territory leaders will now be coming together before Christmas to discuss the issues posed by the latest COVID strain.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison says while some countries in the northern hemisphere are returning to lockdowns, that’s not on the table for Australia yet.
“We know the virus does move differently in different seasons, so what’s important is people get their booster shots,” he said.
“Anyone who is concerned and who is ready to have their booster shot I would urge them to go and get it because that is the best defence.”
Mr Morrison said he encouraged Australians to “keep our nerve, keep calm and carry on” in the lead up to Christmas.
National cabinet to hold emergency meeting tomorrow
(ABC News)
National cabinet will be convened tomorrow for an emergency meeting on the Omicron variant.
The group was slated to meet in February, but state and territory leaders will now be coming together before Christmas to discuss the issues posed by the latest COVID strain.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison says while some countries in the northern hemisphere are returning to lockdowns, that’s not on the table for Australia yet.
“We know the virus does move differently in different seasons, so what’s important is people get their booster shots,” he said.
“Anyone who is concerned and who is ready to have their booster shot I would urge them to go and get it because that is the best defence.”
Mr Morrison said he encouraged Australians to “keep our nerve, keep calm and carry on” in the lead up to Christmas.
National Cabinet meeting on Wednesday, not tomorrow.
The Prime Minister’s Office has clarified a meeting of state and territory leaders will happen on Wednesday.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison said earlier today he would convene National Cabinet to discuss fresh concerns of the spreading Omicron variant ahead of the Christmas break.
Mr Morrison said it would be an “informal” meeting, but National Cabinet had not been scheduled to meet again until February.
He has urged Australians to “keep calm” as they go about their business leading up to Christmas and the New Year.
Australians may soon have to get a third dose to be considered fully vaccinated, as an expert taskforce weighs the evidence on the Omicron variant’s ability to evade vaccines and state governments push to bring forward the timing of booster shots.
oh right that fully sick vaccination thing then we guess that makes it 2 months late
Australians may soon have to get a third dose to be considered fully vaccinated, as an expert taskforce weighs the evidence on the Omicron variant’s ability to evade vaccines and state governments push to bring forward the timing of booster shots.
oh right that fully sick vaccination thing then we guess that makes it 2 months late
Entire hospital units could be forced to shut because of staff quitting in protest at the government’s order that they must all be vaccinated against Covid-19, a senior NHS leader has warned.
Chris Hopson, the chief executive of NHS Providers, said that at one hospital trust in England, 40 midwives were refusing to get jabbed, raising fears that the maternity unit may have to close.
Entire hospital units could be forced to shut because of staff quitting in protest at the government’s order that they must all be vaccinated against Covid-19, a senior NHS leader has warned.
Chris Hopson, the chief executive of NHS Providers, said that at one hospital trust in England, 40 midwives were refusing to get jabbed, raising fears that the maternity unit may have to close.
Entire hospital units could be forced to shut because of staff quitting in protest at the government’s order that they must all be vaccinated against Covid-19, a senior NHS leader has warned.
Chris Hopson, the chief executive of NHS Providers, said that at one hospital trust in England, 40 midwives were refusing to get jabbed, raising fears that the maternity unit may have to close.
Entire hospital units could be forced to shut because of staff quitting in protest at the government’s order that they must all be vaccinated against Covid-19, a senior NHS leader has warned.
Chris Hopson, the chief executive of NHS Providers, said that at one hospital trust in England, 40 midwives were refusing to get jabbed, raising fears that the maternity unit may have to close.
Certainly very disappointing that these woo-woo people make up such significant numbers amongst medical staff.
The thing I don’t get with this, right… is that where else are they going to find a job if the refuse to be vaccinated?
My industry we all have to be vaccinated. Everyone just did it where I work. We are looking for experienced staff, so we had an application from someone who worked for the competition. Turns out she was an antivaxxer and was quitting her job because she didn’t want to take the jab. My boss wanted to hire her but had to turn her away because we have the same policy, as is dictated to us. She walked out in tears. What is she going to do without getting the jab??
Entire hospital units could be forced to shut because of staff quitting in protest at the government’s order that they must all be vaccinated against Covid-19, a senior NHS leader has warned.
Chris Hopson, the chief executive of NHS Providers, said that at one hospital trust in England, 40 midwives were refusing to get jabbed, raising fears that the maternity unit may have to close.
Certainly very disappointing that these woo-woo people make up such significant numbers amongst medical staff.
The thing I don’t get with this, right… is that where else are they going to find a job if the refuse to be vaccinated?
My industry we all have to be vaccinated. Everyone just did it where I work. We are looking for experienced staff, so we had an application from someone who worked for the competition. Turns out she was an antivaxxer and was quitting her job because she didn’t want to take the jab. My boss wanted to hire her but had to turn her away because we have the same policy, as is dictated to us. She walked out in tears. What is she going to do without getting the jab??
Certainly very disappointing that these woo-woo people make up such significant numbers amongst medical staff.
The thing I don’t get with this, right… is that where else are they going to find a job if the refuse to be vaccinated?
My industry we all have to be vaccinated. Everyone just did it where I work. We are looking for experienced staff, so we had an application from someone who worked for the competition. Turns out she was an antivaxxer and was quitting her job because she didn’t want to take the jab. My boss wanted to hire her but had to turn her away because we have the same policy, as is dictated to us. She walked out in tears. What is she going to do without getting the jab??
Certainly very disappointing that these woo-woo people make up such significant numbers amongst medical staff.
The thing I don’t get with this, right… is that where else are they going to find a job if the refuse to be vaccinated?
My industry we all have to be vaccinated. Everyone just did it where I work. We are looking for experienced staff, so we had an application from someone who worked for the competition. Turns out she was an antivaxxer and was quitting her job because she didn’t want to take the jab. My boss wanted to hire her but had to turn her away because we have the same policy, as is dictated to us. She walked out in tears. What is she going to do without getting the jab??
Either go on the dole or wise up, presumably.
The dole is fucked as it is. They’ll probably make people ineligible if they lost a job for not getting vaxxed anyway. It will be art of their mutual obligations I bet.
The thing I don’t get with this, right… is that where else are they going to find a job if the refuse to be vaccinated?
My industry we all have to be vaccinated. Everyone just did it where I work. We are looking for experienced staff, so we had an application from someone who worked for the competition. Turns out she was an antivaxxer and was quitting her job because she didn’t want to take the jab. My boss wanted to hire her but had to turn her away because we have the same policy, as is dictated to us. She walked out in tears. What is she going to do without getting the jab??
Either go on the dole or wise up, presumably.
The dole is fucked as it is. They’ll probably make people ineligible if they lost a job for not getting vaxxed anyway. It will be art of their mutual obligations I bet.
The dole is fucked as it is. They’ll probably make people ineligible if they lost a job for not getting vaxxed anyway. It will be art of their mutual obligations I bet.
The dole is fucked as it is. They’ll probably make people ineligible if they lost a job for not getting vaxxed anyway. It will be art of their mutual obligations I bet.
Entire hospital units could be forced to shut because of staff quitting in protest at the government’s order that they must all be vaccinated against Covid-19, a senior NHS leader has warned.
Chris Hopson, the chief executive of NHS Providers, said that at one hospital trust in England, 40 midwives were refusing to get jabbed, raising fears that the maternity unit may have to close.
Entire hospital units could be forced to shut because of staff quitting in protest at the government’s order that they must all be vaccinated against Covid-19, a senior NHS leader has warned.
Chris Hopson, the chief executive of NHS Providers, said that at one hospital trust in England, 40 midwives were refusing to get jabbed, raising fears that the maternity unit may have to close.
Certainly very disappointing that these woo-woo people make up such significant numbers amongst medical staff.
The thing I don’t get with this, right… is that where else are they going to find a job if the refuse to be vaccinated?
My industry we all have to be vaccinated. Everyone just did it where I work. We are looking for experienced staff, so we had an application from someone who worked for the competition. Turns out she was an antivaxxer and was quitting her job because she didn’t want to take the jab. My boss wanted to hire her but had to turn her away because we have the same policy, as is dictated to us. She walked out in tears. What is she going to do without getting the jab??
Not your problem. Nor is it mine. Problem bilong her.
Maybe she has to change industries. Sweeping streets, perhaps.
Entire hospital units could be forced to shut because of staff quitting in protest at the government’s order that they must all be vaccinated against Covid-19, a senior NHS leader has warned.
Chris Hopson, the chief executive of NHS Providers, said that at one hospital trust in England, 40 midwives were refusing to get jabbed, raising fears that the maternity unit may have to close.
New data from Imperial College London has found “no evidence” the Omicron variant generates less severe disease compared to prior SARS-CoV-2 variants. An analysis of an Omicron super spreader event in Norway is also offering crucial insights into the characteristics of this new variant and its ability to breakthrough pre-existing immunity.
The latest findings come from Imperial College’s COVID-19 Response Team, a collection of researchers who have been offering real-time modeling on the spread of SARS-CoV-2 since the beginning of the pandemic. Confirming the results of a recent Oxford lab study indicating two vaccine doses are not sufficient to protect from Omicron infection, the new real-world data found the new variant significantly evades immunity generated by both vaccine and previous infection.
https://newatlas.com/health-wellbeing/omicron-severe-mild-disease-uk-data-coronavirus-vaccine/
The COVID disconnect of little old ladies locked up en masse
that’s a really good write by pascoe
i’d add though a lot of people are and will be, and more will be self-imposing restrictions regard their own social contacts, that’s the only way the wild covid policy reaches tolerable equilibrium
the hope is that exposure-induced herd immunity will eventually be a more significant part of population prophylaxis (at group level, immune systems stomping on infection), the trouble with that idea is the incidence of infection and frequency probably needs be quite high across the population
unless of course probably better that 96% of the population is fully vaccinated, and by fully I mean regular boosters, with it in mind vaccines hopefully may improve
then there may be long term consequences of having lots of peoples immune systems in a constant state of alert for coronaviruses, via vaccines or/and constant exposure, there could be good reasons the human body doesn’t do that, that immunity fades
The COVID disconnect of little old ladies locked up en masse
that’s a really good write by pascoe
i’d add though a lot of people are and will be, and more will be self-imposing restrictions regard their own social contacts, that’s the only way the wild covid policy reaches tolerable equilibrium
the hope is that exposure-induced herd immunity will eventually be a more significant part of population prophylaxis (at group level, immune systems stomping on infection), the trouble with that idea is the incidence of infection and frequency probably needs be quite high across the population
unless of course probably better that 96% of the population is fully vaccinated, and by fully I mean regular boosters, with it in mind vaccines hopefully may improve
then there may be long term consequences of having lots of peoples immune systems in a constant state of alert for coronaviruses, via vaccines or/and constant exposure, there could be good reasons the human body doesn’t do that, that immunity fades
we’ll find out I guess
hint
measles fks the immune as well, you become susceptible to previous infections again, and now
think about how coronavirus immunity doesn’t last, maybe, how might it not last, might it be getting fkd
Booking my booster dose at the moment, trying to find a suitable time.
The 7th of January at 7:30am looks good, well then go into work.
Didn’t feel unwell from the others so should be good.
Booking my booster dose at the moment, trying to find a suitable time.
The 7th of January at 7:30am looks good, well then go into work.
Didn’t feel unwell from the others so should be good.
Scott Morrison says Australia has to move “past the heavy hand of government” and stop shutting down people’s lives as COVID case numbers topped 3,000 in NSW today.
we agree, time to deelect this useless deadweight government
Booking my booster dose at the moment, trying to find a suitable time.
The 7th of January at 7:30am looks good, well then go into work.
Didn’t feel unwell from the others so should be good.
Booking my booster dose at the moment, trying to find a suitable time.
The 7th of January at 7:30am looks good, well then go into work.
Didn’t feel unwell from the others so should be good.
You might like to talk to poik about that.
Feeling unwell from the booster ?
He was. I’m not sure how long it lasted, but it might not be good to plan on going straight to work. Of course, everyone is different.
The COVID disconnect of little old ladies locked up en masse
that’s a really good write by pascoe
i’d add though a lot of people are and will be, and more will be self-imposing restrictions regard their own social contacts, that’s the only way the wild covid policy reaches tolerable equilibrium
the hope is that exposure-induced herd immunity will eventually be a more significant part of population prophylaxis (at group level, immune systems stomping on infection), the trouble with that idea is the incidence of infection and frequency probably needs be quite high across the population
unless of course probably better that 96% of the population is fully vaccinated, and by fully I mean regular boosters, with it in mind vaccines hopefully may improve
then there may be long term consequences of having lots of peoples immune systems in a constant state of alert for coronaviruses, via vaccines or/and constant exposure, there could be good reasons the human body doesn’t do that, that immunity fades
we’ll find out I guess
hint
measles fks the immune as well, you become susceptible to previous infections again, and now
think about how coronavirus immunity doesn’t last, maybe, how might it not last, might it be getting fkd
guess could do that if corrupted lymphocytes, whatever, activity, production of, but probably no indications of that, possibly though some indications of potential for corrupted cell repair, as vaguely recall, goes my non-expert interest in the subject
I was more thinking if your immune system is all hyped constantly about certain type of virus, maybe a T-cell might wander into your heart and kill a few necessary good cells, shorten your life some, and make the days to your end more work, harder work, less comfortable, less rewarding
Dan Suan
Yesterday at 02:09 ·
Hi Sydney,
I am sorry, but we have a problem.
We are sleepwalking into an Omicron disaster in January if we do not take immediate and effective action to limit the spread of Omicron before Christmas.
It’s too much to type, so I made a video explaining the problem. I’m sorry the quality is so bad.
I need to ask you to make time to watch this, and if you understand and agree with me and my colleagues, then I need you to make sure everyone you know in NSW also understands the problem.
The hour is very late and the opportunity to intervene grows shorter by the minute. Thousands of lives are at risk again.
We must deal with the facts as they are, not as we want them.
Only together can we crush Omicron transmission and prevent a catastrophe in January.
Best wishes to you and your families for the holiday season.
🐾🐾❤
Dan Suan | MBBSFRACPFRCPA PhD
Clinical Immunologist and Immunopathologist
so-called “expert” conspiracy theorists … you all decide whether legit’orn’t
more to it, hospitals stand as a wild contradiction to the policy of endemic covid, as a model, you can’t have endemic covid in a hospital, though I did hear or read somewhere the other day language softening the viewer to the idea it is, the propaganda is evolving, they spin it
i’d counter with an invitation to imagine medical staff in PPE, doctors, ambulance people etc, sort of gets more to the truth of it, saves a whole lot of bullshit
if doctors etc stop wearing PPE to deal with covid patients, or as a precaution, when they stop taking the precautions in case, then you might assume covid is no worse than a common cold
until then, that they do wear it, is inconvenient to the endemic covid advocates, highly inconvenient
thinking if your immune system is all hyped constantly about certain type of virus, maybe a T-cell might wander into your heart and kill a few necessary good cells, shorten your life some, and make the days to your end more work, harder work, less comfortable, less rewarding
yeah but don’t worry apart from 100 times more myocarditis than a mRNA vaccine
seems it’s more likely to send your cell killing cells to the brain
you won’t notice it yourself, cognitive deficits and dementia are like that
but hey the heart’s still beating, didn’t die, that’s all right then
welcome to the preexisting condition nursing home treadmill
so-called “expert” conspiracy theorists … you all decide whether legit’orn’t
more to it, hospitals stand as a wild contradiction to the policy of endemic covid, as a model, you can’t have endemic covid in a hospital, though I did hear or read somewhere the other day language softening the viewer to the idea it is, the propaganda is evolving, they spin it
i’d counter with an invitation to imagine medical staff in PPE, doctors, ambulance people etc, sort of gets more to the truth of it, saves a whole lot of bullshit
if doctors etc stop wearing PPE to deal with covid patients, or as a precaution, when they stop taking the precautions in case, then you might assume covid is no worse than a common cold
until then, that they do wear it, is inconvenient to the endemic covid advocates, highly inconvenient
won’t bother reading that, it’s not a maybe that christmas will be a superspreader event, it’s a certainty, sure as christmas is contagious, and religion and ideology are contagions
no point pretending ignorance, secretly deferring to nature, marginally better than deferring to it’s the will of God
it’s in the aether, sure as the ABC go from reports of the outcome of covid policy to images of a natural disaster somewhere on the planet, like they have been cryptically inhabited by the spirit of herbert spencer
more to it, hospitals stand as a wild contradiction to the policy of endemic covid, as a model, you can’t have endemic covid in a hospital, though I did hear or read somewhere the other day language softening the viewer to the idea it is, the propaganda is evolving, they spin it
i’d counter with an invitation to imagine medical staff in PPE, doctors, ambulance people etc, sort of gets more to the truth of it, saves a whole lot of bullshit
if doctors etc stop wearing PPE to deal with covid patients, or as a precaution, when they stop taking the precautions in case, then you might assume covid is no worse than a common cold
until then, that they do wear it, is inconvenient to the endemic covid advocates, highly inconvenient
won’t bother reading that, it’s not a maybe that christmas will be a superspreader event, it’s a certainty, sure as christmas is contagious, and religion and ideology are contagions
no point pretending ignorance, secretly deferring to nature, marginally better than deferring to it’s the will of God
it’s in the aether, sure as the ABC go from reports of the outcome of covid policy to images of a natural disaster somewhere on the planet, like they have been cryptically inhabited by the spirit of herbert spencer
Interesting song from Ministry about Covid I heard yesterday
It is the first time daily cases have reached the 3,000 mark anywhere in Australia. Hospitalisations again increased today to 284, up from 261 yesterday.
remember when they had like the lowest number of hospitalisations ever in the history of mankind, like 140 or something, ages ago
He was. I’m not sure how long it lasted, but it might not be good to plan on going straight to work. Of course, everyone is different.
I’m not.
Oh, you are very different. All forum members are different.
Anyway, some of you might like to read this, and perhaps some of the links out from it. And before you dismiss it without reading it because it’s got Sweden in the title, it’s a New Zealand based assessment.
“On December 17, Denmark’s prime minister Mette Frederiksen announced the closure of many public venues including cinemas, theaters, concert halls and the popular Tivoli Gardens theme park in downtown Copenhagen.”
“Other new measures include a ban on alcohol sales after 10pm, capacity limits in stores and places of worship, and an extension to the mandatory use of face masks.”
“On December 12, Norway announced a stricter set of measures designed to halt the spread of the Omicron variant. The serving of alcohol is banned in all licensed premises, a rule that has seen many bars close temporarily in what would otherwise be one of the busiest times of the year.”
we’ll just scrape christmas in, in the SA normal we’ve enjoyed, out in the regions, a lot goes to shit in the two months following
Health police state bad, data collection and spying on citizens in the name of terrorism prevention good
we mean in some ways it’s good that these arseholes have put their cards on the table, can’t mistake what their agenda is, who cares about health
True.
I’m all for questioning authority, but pick your battles and not pretend you care just to stir up trouble cause you are a dick/moron/etc.
Could have had hundreds of millions dead if we did nothing and that’s not taking into account the possible collapse of the machinations of society
Giesecke was partly right. East Anglia University professor of health protection Paul Hunter faced off against Tegnell in an April 2020 debate, defending lockdowns. But he notes Sweden currently has lower case numbers than its Scandinavian neighbours, despite slightly lower vaccination rates and more relaxed control measures. “Sweden is in a good position now and that will be down to high population levels of immunity due to vaccine, but more importantly – relative to its neighbours – high levels of prior infection.” Some studies suggest immunity gained from infection is more effective than vaccination at preventing re-infection, so having had lots of cases should make Sweden more resilient to outbreaks.
except that most studies don’t show it
What we can learn from Sweden, though, is that as long as you have people who refuse to be vaccinated, you will need natural infection to plug the immunity gaps, Blakely says.
except that only optimists consider that you can put out the bushfire by applying fire control measures, whereas without them yeah you’re stuck with control burning and natural burning to plug the control burn gaps
more to it, hospitals stand as a wild contradiction to the policy of endemic covid, as a model, you can’t have endemic covid in a hospital, though I did hear or read somewhere the other day language softening the viewer to the idea it is, the propaganda is evolving, they spin it
i’d counter with an invitation to imagine medical staff in PPE, doctors, ambulance people etc, sort of gets more to the truth of it, saves a whole lot of bullshit
if doctors etc stop wearing PPE to deal with covid patients, or as a precaution, when they stop taking the precautions in case, then you might assume covid is no worse than a common cold
until then, that they do wear it, is inconvenient to the endemic covid advocates, highly inconvenient
won’t bother reading that, it’s not a maybe that christmas will be a superspreader event, it’s a certainty, sure as christmas is contagious, and religion and ideology are contagions
no point pretending ignorance, secretly deferring to nature, marginally better than deferring to it’s the will of God
it’s in the aether, sure as the ABC go from reports of the outcome of covid policy to images of a natural disaster somewhere on the planet, like they have been cryptically inhabited by the spirit of herbert spencer
maybe that’s it, many peoples nearest experience of nature is Attenborough documentaries, you know and between them they make a few changes to their investment portfolio, that’s great part of their reality, gotten that way
won’t bother reading that, it’s not a maybe that christmas will be a superspreader event, it’s a certainty, sure as christmas is contagious, and religion and ideology are contagions
no point pretending ignorance, secretly deferring to nature, marginally better than deferring to it’s the will of God
it’s in the aether, sure as the ABC go from reports of the outcome of covid policy to images of a natural disaster somewhere on the planet, like they have been cryptically inhabited by the spirit of herbert spencer
maybe that’s it, many peoples nearest experience of nature is Attenborough documentaries, you know and between them they make a few changes to their investment portfolio, that’s great part of their reality, gotten that way
bullshit really
I’m not sure I see the problem with a news report going from reports of the outcome of covid policy to images of a natural disaster somewhere on the planet, nor what it has to do with Herbert Spencer.
won’t bother reading that, it’s not a maybe that christmas will be a superspreader event, it’s a certainty, sure as christmas is contagious, and religion and ideology are contagions
no point pretending ignorance, secretly deferring to nature, marginally better than deferring to it’s the will of God
it’s in the aether, sure as the ABC go from reports of the outcome of covid policy to images of a natural disaster somewhere on the planet, like they have been cryptically inhabited by the spirit of herbert spencer
maybe that’s it, many peoples nearest experience of nature is Attenborough documentaries, you know and between them they make a few changes to their investment portfolio, that’s great part of their reality, gotten that way
bullshit really
I’m not sure I see the problem with a news report going from reports of the outcome of covid policy to images of a natural disaster somewhere on the planet, nor what it has to do with Herbert Spencer.
give it a few years thought, a few more years than the few moments you just did, then maybe report back
won’t bother reading that, it’s not a maybe that christmas will be a superspreader event, it’s a certainty, sure as christmas is contagious, and religion and ideology are contagions
no point pretending ignorance, secretly deferring to nature, marginally better than deferring to it’s the will of God
it’s in the aether, sure as the ABC go from reports of the outcome of covid policy to images of a natural disaster somewhere on the planet, like they have been cryptically inhabited by the spirit of herbert spencer
maybe that’s it, many peoples nearest experience of nature is Attenborough documentaries, you know and between them they make a few changes to their investment portfolio, that’s great part of their reality, gotten that way
bullshit really
Not sure in todays world you couldn’t be part of something/someone exploited.
Perhaps products needs an environmental/exploitation rating like we have health ratings for food
A nation was stuck on endemic COVID-19. They were praying to God for help.
Soon a PPE manufacturer with N95 masks spoke up and announced “wear these, they will save you”.
The nation shouted back, “No, it’s OK, we’re praying to God and it is going to save us.”
So the PPE manufacturer was silenced.
Then an Aerosol Scientist spoke up. “Spend time outdoors, open the windows, or if you really can’t, then use a proper air purifier.”
To this the nation said, “No thanks, we’re praying to God and it is going to save us. We have faith.”
So the Aerosol Scientist was silenced.
Then a Biomedical Laboratory completed trials, and the spokesperson shouted, “Grab these vaccines and we will boost you to safety!”.
To this the nation again replied, “No thanks, we’re praying to God and it is going to save us. We have faith.”
So the doctors reluctantly threw all the surplus doses away.
Soon the variants rose above the hospital capacity and the economy collapsed. The representatives went to the Health authorities. They finally got their chance to discuss this whole situation with doctors playing God, at which point they exclaimed, “We had faith in you but you didn’t save us, you let us die. We don’t understand why!”.
To this the doctors playing God replied, “We sent you PPE and airborne mitigation strategy and vaccines, what more did you expect?”.
A nation was stuck on endemic COVID-19. They were praying to God for help.
Soon a PPE manufacturer with N95 masks spoke up and announced “wear these, they will save you”.
The nation shouted back, “No, it’s OK, we’re praying to God and it is going to save us.”
So the PPE manufacturer was silenced.
Then an Aerosol Scientist spoke up. “Spend time outdoors, open the windows, or if you really can’t, then use a proper air purifier.”
To this the nation said, “No thanks, we’re praying to God and it is going to save us. We have faith.”
So the Aerosol Scientist was silenced.
Then a Biomedical Laboratory completed trials, and the spokesperson shouted, “Grab these vaccines and we will boost you to safety!”.
To this the nation again replied, “No thanks, we’re praying to God and it is going to save us. We have faith.”
So the doctors reluctantly threw all the surplus doses away.
Soon the variants rose above the hospital capacity and the economy collapsed. The representatives went to the Health authorities. They finally got their chance to discuss this whole situation with doctors playing God, at which point they exclaimed, “We had faith in you but you didn’t save us, you let us die. We don’t understand why!”.
To this the doctors playing God replied, “We sent you PPE and airborne mitigation strategy and vaccines, what more did you expect?”.
Faith healing is pretty damn stupid, usually to exploit money from believers
I was thinking about covid wards and how to make it a bit easier to breathe, I came up with 2 ideas.
1 would fans create a better oxygen flow?
2 night air is richer in oxygen closer to the ground, this could be collected, stored and released over the day in COVID wards.
3 have hospitals tried this Mucus Removal Devices on Covid patients?
Natural Lung Exerciser & Mucus Removal Device – Naturally Clear Mucus From Airways & Improve Lung Capacity With This Opep Respiratory Breathing Exercise Device – Made in Australia – Blue
maybe that’s it, many peoples nearest experience of nature is Attenborough documentaries, you know and between them they make a few changes to their investment portfolio, that’s great part of their reality, gotten that way
bullshit really
I’m not sure I see the problem with a news report going from reports of the outcome of covid policy to images of a natural disaster somewhere on the planet, nor what it has to do with Herbert Spencer.
give it a few years thought, a few more years than the few moments you just did, then maybe report back
No, it would be quite unreasonable of me to expect you to keep your thought in mind that long, so we could discuss it after I had pondered it properly.
I’m not sure I see the problem with a news report going from reports of the outcome of covid policy to images of a natural disaster somewhere on the planet, nor what it has to do with Herbert Spencer.
give it a few years thought, a few more years than the few moments you just did, then maybe report back
No, it would be quite unreasonable of me to expect you to keep your thought in mind that long, so we could discuss it after I had pondered it properly.
I’ll just move on to something else.
i’m happy to wait, some favorable temporal anomaly may occur, or catatonia might visit me, we could re-converge on the subject in a couple years, even a decade or more could be advantageous
Finally, 2 years later and with disaster looming, idiots roll a couple of advised lines.
“I have written to the premiers and set out the advice that [medical experts] are providing, and there is important messages about the strong recommendation about mask use inside and things like that and that is very sensible,” Mr Morrison said.
Finally, 2 years later and with disaster looming, idiots roll a couple of advised lines.
“I have written to the premiers and set out the advice that [medical experts] are providing, and there is important messages about the strong recommendation about mask use inside and things like that and that is very sensible,” Mr Morrison said.
Finally, 2 years later and with disaster looming, idiots roll a couple of advised lines.
“I have written to the premiers and set out the advice that [medical experts] are providing, and there is important messages about the strong recommendation about mask use inside and things like that and that is very sensible,” Mr Morrison said.
We did pretty well in response to Covid as well
yeah imagine listening to medical experts
probably do even better if we listen to them earlier but hey we almost got there
neutrino’s being exceptionally practical, possibly even redefining practical, and gets no encouragement from you
Wards do have ventilation in the ceiling, which is about 6 meters away, a fan on the bed head is a lot closer 20 – 30 cm.
Fan forced air would be deliver a higher airflow to normal circulated air in a ward, wards still have a defined airflow.
It would be interesting to see if it helped.
2 night air is richer in oxygen closer to the ground, this could be collected, stored and released over the day in COVID wards.
This would be to be collected at ground level, where oxygen content is higher depending on local conditions.
I noticed this as a child, to smell this rich air try between 12 – 6am early in the morning, bend your head down below your knees or just lie down at ground level, breathe deeply, the air is noticeably richer.
won’t bother reading that, it’s not a maybe that christmas will be a superspreader event, it’s a certainty, sure as christmas is contagious, and religion and ideology are contagions
no point pretending ignorance, secretly deferring to nature, marginally better than deferring to it’s the will of God
it’s in the aether, sure as the ABC go from reports of the outcome of covid policy to images of a natural disaster somewhere on the planet, like they have been cryptically inhabited by the spirit of herbert spencer
maybe that’s it, many peoples nearest experience of nature is Attenborough documentaries, you know and between them they make a few changes to their investment portfolio, that’s great part of their reality, gotten that way
bullshit really
Not sure in todays world you couldn’t be part of something/someone exploited.
Perhaps products needs an environmental/exploitation rating like we have health ratings for food
if I take the we in that to be an ever-expansive super-organism, with an unstoppable momentum, a force of nature, which possibly has some secret appeal, a dimension that way, I might ask if nation states and the remaining marginally representative governments could be further parasitized by more of the same, with all the joys of an entirely borderless world, along with suitable loyalties for that, which at the end of the day could be not much more than money, and the environment to help it all stay appearing respectable
maybe that’s it, many peoples nearest experience of nature is Attenborough documentaries, you know and between them they make a few changes to their investment portfolio, that’s great part of their reality, gotten that way
bullshit really
Not sure in todays world you couldn’t be part of something/someone exploited.
Perhaps products needs an environmental/exploitation rating like we have health ratings for food
if I take the we in that to be an ever-expansive super-organism, with an unstoppable momentum, a force of nature, which possibly has some secret appeal, a dimension that way, I might ask if nation states and the remaining marginally representative governments could be further parasitized by more of the same, with all the joys of an entirely borderless world, along with suitable loyalties for that, which at the end of the day could be not much more than money, and the environment to help it all stay appearing respectable
I think you need to give your anti-globalism a few decades more thought.
Not sure in todays world you couldn’t be part of something/someone exploited.
Perhaps products needs an environmental/exploitation rating like we have health ratings for food
if I take the we in that to be an ever-expansive super-organism, with an unstoppable momentum, a force of nature, which possibly has some secret appeal, a dimension that way, I might ask if nation states and the remaining marginally representative governments could be further parasitized by more of the same, with all the joys of an entirely borderless world, along with suitable loyalties for that, which at the end of the day could be not much more than money, and the environment to help it all stay appearing respectable
I think you need to give your anti-globalism a few decades more thought.
i’m probably not so much anti-globalist, perhaps more interested in the ‘fluid’ loyalties of money
Not sure in todays world you couldn’t be part of something/someone exploited.
Perhaps products needs an environmental/exploitation rating like we have health ratings for food
if I take the we in that to be an ever-expansive super-organism, with an unstoppable momentum, a force of nature, which possibly has some secret appeal, a dimension that way, I might ask if nation states and the remaining marginally representative governments could be further parasitized by more of the same, with all the joys of an entirely borderless world, along with suitable loyalties for that, which at the end of the day could be not much more than money, and the environment to help it all stay appearing respectable
I think you need to give your anti-globalism a few decades more thought.
Would it force a company to be more responsible/moral if their product got poor ratings and people stopped buying it.
People would need to stop buying it though which probably wouldn’t happen especially if prices were higher for more morally acceptable products.
if I take the we in that to be an ever-expansive super-organism, with an unstoppable momentum, a force of nature, which possibly has some secret appeal, a dimension that way, I might ask if nation states and the remaining marginally representative governments could be further parasitized by more of the same, with all the joys of an entirely borderless world, along with suitable loyalties for that, which at the end of the day could be not much more than money, and the environment to help it all stay appearing respectable
I think you need to give your anti-globalism a few decades more thought.
i’m probably not so much anti-globalist, perhaps more interested in the ‘fluid’ loyalties of money
Its not really globalism as the same bully nations set deals up to benefit themselves at the expense of others and call it free trade.
No responsibility really for actions considered crimes against humanity
The troposphere starts at the Earth’s surface and extends 8 to 14.5 kilometers high (5 to 9 miles). This part of the atmosphere is the most dense.
I’m talking about the air at ground level up to half a meter.
Which changes during the day, this layer is most dense between the early hours of the morning around 12am to 6 am.
I guess sunlight after 6am forces it upwards and radiant heat after sunset also forces it upwards until the ground cools enough for the layer to form.
The layer is only half a meter or so thick, it might be thinner or thicker in other parts of the world.
Anyone ever noticed it?
It’s where you find ground mist at certain times of year, in areas prone to such mist (such as the Mole Creek karst valley).
I’m in Creswick, and this night air layer forms mostly every morning between 12am and 6am but only around 50 cm high and gets dispersed during sunlight.
Which changes during the day, this layer is most dense between the early hours of the morning around 12am to 6 am.
I guess sunlight after 6am forces it upwards and radiant heat after sunset also forces it upwards until the ground cools enough for the layer to form.
The layer is only half a meter or so thick, it might be thinner or thicker in other parts of the world.
Anyone ever noticed it?
It’s where you find ground mist at certain times of year, in areas prone to such mist (such as the Mole Creek karst valley).
I’m in Creswick, and this night air layer forms mostly every morning between 12am and 6am but only around 50 cm high and gets dispersed during sunlight.
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This layer does not look like a mist either, mostly its invisible.
if I take the we in that to be an ever-expansive super-organism, with an unstoppable momentum, a force of nature, which possibly has some secret appeal, a dimension that way, I might ask if nation states and the remaining marginally representative governments could be further parasitized by more of the same, with all the joys of an entirely borderless world, along with suitable loyalties for that, which at the end of the day could be not much more than money, and the environment to help it all stay appearing respectable
I think you need to give your anti-globalism a few decades more thought.
i’m probably not so much anti-globalist, perhaps more interested in the ‘fluid’ loyalties of money
i’ll try and give you an example of where i’m coming from
let’s say hypothetically you’ve got money in cryptocurrencies, there’s considerably volatility, and after the recent omicron outbreak part of what accounts for the dive in value is uncertainty coming from the omicron outbreak
imagine it’s a lot of money
we have a conversation about cryptocurrencies, risk and volatility, and that same conversation ventures into the subject of market responses to the pandemic, a new strain has emerged
are you capable of a balanced interest including government pandemic response, health measures for the greater good of your own country
or are your interests essentially corrupted by investments that really have no regard for borders, diluting government’s ability to administer its territories
and regard that, i’d ask do markets preemptively punish governments for even contemplating interventions, create aversion, in a way undermining government, to keep the money free to do what it does
My Melbourne nephew is supposed to be here on Christmas Eve, but the waiting time for test results is now around four days and he can’t get a test until tomorrow, ‘cos they’re so booked out.
People have been sleeping in their cars overnight in the queue but then being turned away after waiting all day.
My Melbourne nephew is supposed to be here on Christmas Eve, but the waiting time for test results is now around four days and he can’t get a test until tomorrow, ‘cos they’re so booked out.
People have been sleeping in their cars overnight in the queue but then being turned away after waiting all day.
just catch it and go to the emergency department, they’ll probably get you tested straight away
My Melbourne nephew is supposed to be here on Christmas Eve, but the waiting time for test results is now around four days and he can’t get a test until tomorrow, ‘cos they’re so booked out.
People have been sleeping in their cars overnight in the queue but then being turned away after waiting all day.
And I looked at the instructions for the local testing place today…if you get a test, you have to isolate until you get your result. Apparently this is regardless of the reason, not just for symptomatics.
Tim Gunn sentenced over Hobart COVID quarantine breach which triggered 72-hour lock down
A New South Wales man who flew into Tasmania illegally and escaped from hotel quarantine, sending the south of the state into lockdown, has been sentenced to five months in jail — with two of those suspended.
Tim Gunn sentenced over Hobart COVID quarantine breach which triggered 72-hour lock down
A New South Wales man who flew into Tasmania illegally and escaped from hotel quarantine, sending the south of the state into lockdown, has been sentenced to five months in jail — with two of those suspended.
I think you need to give your anti-globalism a few decades more thought.
i’m probably not so much anti-globalist, perhaps more interested in the ‘fluid’ loyalties of money
i’ll try and give you an example of where i’m coming from
let’s say hypothetically you’ve got money in cryptocurrencies, there’s considerably volatility, and after the recent omicron outbreak part of what accounts for the dive in value is uncertainty coming from the omicron outbreak
imagine it’s a lot of money
we have a conversation about cryptocurrencies, risk and volatility, and that same conversation ventures into the subject of market responses to the pandemic, a new strain has emerged
are you capable of a balanced interest including government pandemic response, health measures for the greater good of your own country
or are your interests essentially corrupted by investments that really have no regard for borders, diluting government’s ability to administer its territories
and regard that, i’d ask do markets preemptively punish governments for even contemplating interventions, create aversion, in a way undermining government, to keep the money free to do what it does
Can you explain what crypto-currencies have to do with it?
i’m probably not so much anti-globalist, perhaps more interested in the ‘fluid’ loyalties of money
i’ll try and give you an example of where i’m coming from
let’s say hypothetically you’ve got money in cryptocurrencies, there’s considerably volatility, and after the recent omicron outbreak part of what accounts for the dive in value is uncertainty coming from the omicron outbreak
imagine it’s a lot of money
we have a conversation about cryptocurrencies, risk and volatility, and that same conversation ventures into the subject of market responses to the pandemic, a new strain has emerged
are you capable of a balanced interest including government pandemic response, health measures for the greater good of your own country
or are your interests essentially corrupted by investments that really have no regard for borders, diluting government’s ability to administer its territories
and regard that, i’d ask do markets preemptively punish governments for even contemplating interventions, create aversion, in a way undermining government, to keep the money free to do what it does
Can you explain what crypto-currencies have to do with it?
Hmm, how does this tie in the year of dumping of Australian currency by global hedge finds in order to offset losses in South East Asian countries? Because we had made the mistake of including Australian currency in the Asian basket.
i’ll try and give you an example of where i’m coming from
let’s say hypothetically you’ve got money in cryptocurrencies, there’s considerably volatility, and after the recent omicron outbreak part of what accounts for the dive in value is uncertainty coming from the omicron outbreak
imagine it’s a lot of money
we have a conversation about cryptocurrencies, risk and volatility, and that same conversation ventures into the subject of market responses to the pandemic, a new strain has emerged
are you capable of a balanced interest including government pandemic response, health measures for the greater good of your own country
or are your interests essentially corrupted by investments that really have no regard for borders, diluting government’s ability to administer its territories
and regard that, i’d ask do markets preemptively punish governments for even contemplating interventions, create aversion, in a way undermining government, to keep the money free to do what it does
Can you explain what crypto-currencies have to do with it?
Hmm, how does this tie in the year of dumping of Australian currency by global hedge finds in order to offset losses in South East Asian countries? Because we had made the mistake of including Australian currency in the Asian basket.
i’ll try and give you an example of where i’m coming from
let’s say hypothetically you’ve got money in cryptocurrencies, there’s considerably volatility, and after the recent omicron outbreak part of what accounts for the dive in value is uncertainty coming from the omicron outbreak
imagine it’s a lot of money
we have a conversation about cryptocurrencies, risk and volatility, and that same conversation ventures into the subject of market responses to the pandemic, a new strain has emerged
are you capable of a balanced interest including government pandemic response, health measures for the greater good of your own country
or are your interests essentially corrupted by investments that really have no regard for borders, diluting government’s ability to administer its territories
and regard that, i’d ask do markets preemptively punish governments for even contemplating interventions, create aversion, in a way undermining government, to keep the money free to do what it does
Can you explain what crypto-currencies have to do with it?
Hmm, how does this tie in the year of dumping of Australian currency by global hedge finds in order to offset losses in South East Asian countries? Because we had made the mistake of including Australian currency in the Asian basket.
I know nothing of the event of which you speak, other than that the consequences were so devastating that I didn’t even notice them, but it appears to have nothing to do with crypto-currencies, which are the exact opposite of government backed currencies.
i’ll try and give you an example of where i’m coming from
let’s say hypothetically you’ve got money in cryptocurrencies, there’s considerably volatility, and after the recent omicron outbreak part of what accounts for the dive in value is uncertainty coming from the omicron outbreak
imagine it’s a lot of money
we have a conversation about cryptocurrencies, risk and volatility, and that same conversation ventures into the subject of market responses to the pandemic, a new strain has emerged
are you capable of a balanced interest including government pandemic response, health measures for the greater good of your own country
or are your interests essentially corrupted by investments that really have no regard for borders, diluting government’s ability to administer its territories
and regard that, i’d ask do markets preemptively punish governments for even contemplating interventions, create aversion, in a way undermining government, to keep the money free to do what it does
Can you explain what crypto-currencies have to do with it?
Hmm, how does this tie in the year of dumping of Australian currency by global hedge finds in order to offset losses in South East Asian countries? Because we had made the mistake of including Australian currency in the Asian basket.
The Oz dollar is something like the fifth most traded currency on the planet. I don’t think it is just thrown into the basket of other currencies labelled ‘others’.
Can you explain what crypto-currencies have to do with it?
Hmm, how does this tie in the year of dumping of Australian currency by global hedge finds in order to offset losses in South East Asian countries? Because we had made the mistake of including Australian currency in the Asian basket.
The Oz dollar is something like the fifth most traded currency on the planet. I don’t think it is just thrown into the basket of other currencies labelled ‘others’.
He could be referring to the use of the AUD as a proxy for exposure to Asian markets with which it usually moves in tandem. Just say China was suddenly beset by economic difficulties there might be limited liquid investment options to take counteract exposure to the Chinese market but the AUD as a fully liquid asset will be a useful substitution.
non-quarantine travel for Australians will be pushed back from January 16 until the end of February, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins told a media conference
After easing some of the world’s toughest pandemic measures, New Zealand had planned to begin loosening international border restrictions next month. But now foreign tourists — apart from Australians — won’t be allowed back into the country until April.
It comes as two people, who flew into Perth from Brisbane, tested positive to COVID-19 while in home isolation.
Four close household contacts, who were in the home where they were quarantining, have so far tested negative for COVID-19.
Here is quarantine working, we wouldn’t go as far as to say “as it should”, but certainly better than “freedom of movement in exchange for lack of freedom from preventable disease”.
Could be better, could be quarantining away from close household contacts, but could be worse, could be not quarantining.
non-quarantine travel for Australians will be pushed back from January 16 until the end of February, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins told a media conference
After easing some of the world’s toughest pandemic measures, New Zealand had planned to begin loosening international border restrictions next month. But now foreign tourists — apart from Australians — won’t be allowed back into the country until April.
It comes as two people, who flew into Perth from Brisbane, tested positive to COVID-19 while in home isolation.
Four close household contacts, who were in the home where they were quarantining, have so far tested negative for COVID-19.
Here is quarantine working, we wouldn’t go as far as to say “as it should”, but certainly better than “freedom of movement in exchange for lack of freedom from preventable disease”.
Could be better, could be quarantining away from close household contacts, but could be worse, could be not quarantining.
read that^ page, there were anomalies toward the end
first thing that stands out is that a lot of people’s concept of virulence probably involves an idea of infectiveness, of course it may not for an epidemiologist, but it’s not necessarily confusion by a layperson
to the extent it is a confusion, or might be considered a confusion, it works very well in peoples heads if you’re swinging them around to accepting wild covid, many people might think less virulent, apply their layperson concept loosely to also mean less infective
if they are presented with a contradiction in a proposition, that virulence and infectiveness are two entirely different things, some may resolve that by just going with it’s less bad, less bad than delta of course, which brings me to the next anomaly
the focus is being shifted to omicron, as if it displaces delta, and a viewer is inclines to compare omicron favorably with delta while sort of negating delta, but in fact you get both circulating
if omicron was O, and Delta D, that’s O + D, not O – D
and there’s the possibility tolerance of high levels of omicron may raise the noise floor for other variants to get around
No they can’t.
Not yet.
What they can do: Using data from smartwatches, a new algorithm reads heart rate as a proxy for physiological or mental stress, potentially alerting wearers they’re falling ill before they have symptoms.
No they can’t.
Not yet.
What they can do: Using data from smartwatches, a new algorithm reads heart rate as a proxy for physiological or mental stress, potentially alerting wearers they’re falling ill before they have symptoms.
The algorithm can’t differentiate between someone who’s knocked back a few too many, someone’s who’s stressed because of work and someone who’s ill with a virus. Although it pinged users who had COVID-19, more refining is needed before people can depend on their smartwatches to warn them of an impending infection with SARS-CoV-2 or other viruses.
No they can’t.
Not yet.
What they can do: Using data from smartwatches, a new algorithm reads heart rate as a proxy for physiological or mental stress, potentially alerting wearers they’re falling ill before they have symptoms.
The algorithm can’t differentiate between someone who’s knocked back a few too many, someone’s who’s stressed because of work and someone who’s ill with a virus. Although it pinged users who had COVID-19, more refining is needed before people can depend on their smartwatches to warn them of an impending infection with SARS-CoV-2 or other viruses.
still a waste of resources
simple N95 masks can eliminate transmission of COVID-19 before wearer knows they are in a hot zone
if they are presented with a contradiction in a proposition, that virulence and infectiveness are two entirely different things, some may resolve that by just going with it’s less bad, less bad than delta of course, which brings me to the next anomaly
the focus is being shifted to omicron, as if it displaces delta, and a viewer is inclines to compare omicron favorably with delta while sort of negating delta, but in fact you get both circulating
if omicron was O, and Delta D, that’s O + D, not O – D
and there’s the possibility tolerance of high levels of omicron may raise the noise floor for other variants to get around
indeed, the evidence suggests that they largely add
Vaccines have played a central role in mitigating severe disease and death from COVID-19 in the past 12 months. However, efficacy wanes over time and this loss of protection will be compounded by the emergence of the Omicron variant. By fitting an immunological model to population-level vaccine effectiveness data, we estimate that neutralizing antibody titres for Omicron are reduced by 4.5-fold (95% CrI 3.1–7.1) compared to the Delta variant. This is predicted to result in a drop in vaccine efficacy against severe disease (hospitalisation) from 96.5% (95% CrI 96.1%–96.8%) against Delta to 80.1% (95% CrI 76.3%–83.2%) against Omicron for the Pfizer-BioNTech booster by 60 days post boost if NAT decay at the same rate following boosting as following the primary course, and from 97.6% (95% CrI 97.4%-97.9%) against Delta to 85.9% (95% CrI 83.1%-88.3%) against Omicron if NAT decay at half the rate observed after the primary course. Integrating this immunological model within a model of SARS-CoV-2 transmission, we show that booster doses will be critical to mitigate the impact of future Omicron waves in countries with high levels of circulating virus. They will also be needed in “zero-COVID” countries where there is little prior infection-induced immunity in order to open up safely. Where dose supply is limited, targeting boosters to the highest risk groups to ensure continued high protection in the face of waning immunity is of greater benefit than giving these doses as primary vaccination to younger age-groups. In all scenarios it is likely that health systems will be stretched. It may be essential, therefore, to maintain and/or reintroduce NPIs to mitigate the worst impacts of the Omicron variant as it replaces the Delta variant. Ultimately, Omicron variant-specific vaccines are likely to be required.
The Doherty Institute modelling predicts that without low-to-medium restrictions such as density and visitor limits, waning vaccine protection against the Omicron variant puts Australia on track to hit about 200,000 cases a day by late January or early February. The modelling by a team of researchers including professors Jodie McVernon and James McCaw says rapidly growing case numbers would lift hospitalisation rates to 4000 a day. This would push emergency departments to capacity and fill the nation’s intensive care units, with between 8000 and 10,000 patients expected to be admitted to ICUs.
Without some restrictions on movement, bringing forward boosters to three months would only lower the peak daily infection rate to 190,000, the model said. Future waves of infections would require “repeat boosting”, the modellers said.
While the modelling does not recommend specific restrictions, the Doherty Institute defines “low” public health safety measures as “capacity limits on recreational activities, limits on retail group sizes and restrictions on workplace capacity”, but no stay-at-home orders. “Medium” public health safety measures are defined as “stay-at-home except for work, study and essential purposes, retail and cafes or restaurants open subject to density restrictions, working from home if possible with density restrictions in workplaces”. Indoor recreational venues would be closed under medium restrictions, with small numbers of household visitors allowed and the possibility of school closures.
Let’s see, perhaps a more sensible scale for the severity of restrictions might be, say, oh we don’t know, something comparable to the severity of disease¿
Let’s say “mild” disease means everything up to but not including going to hospital (oh yes). Is that “mild” enough to stay home, except for work / study / essence¿ Is that “mild” enough to stay back from other people, or to encourage others to stay away from you¿ Well, we guess that means “medium” public health safety measures are actually “mild“¡
So their “low” public health safety measures must be “practically insignificant”.
And for “severe” then if disease puts you in hospital, on a ventilator, or in a box, then perhaps it really is fair to describe restrictions that put lock you somewhere or kill you if you don’t comply as “severe” but hey let’s have some nuance, the “only in hospital but not in ICU” part is “moderate” so unless you lock everyone up in individual cells rather than in their isobubbles, the restriction is “moderate”.
Still, appreciate being held to a higher standard, as always.
No they can’t.
Not yet.
What they can do: Using data from smartwatches, a new algorithm reads heart rate as a proxy for physiological or mental stress, potentially alerting wearers they’re falling ill before they have symptoms.
No they can’t.
Not yet.
What they can do: Using data from smartwatches, a new algorithm reads heart rate as a proxy for physiological or mental stress, potentially alerting wearers they’re falling ill before they have symptoms.
Thailand will reinstate its mandatory COVID-19 quarantine for foreign visitors and scrap a quarantine waiver from Tuesday due to concerns over the spread of the Omicron variant of the coronavirus.
The decision to halt Thailand’s “Test and Go” waiver means visitors will have to undergo hotel quarantine, which ranges between seven to 10 days.
The announcement came after Thailand reported the first case of local transmission of the Omicron variant.
Anthony Fauci is calling on Fox News to fire Jesse Watters after the host told a crowd to ambush Fauci in public and send the footage to his network.
“The guy should be fired on the spot,” Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said during an interview on CNN Tuesday.
don’t worry the massive increase in cases will stop soon, if those fools catching COVID-19 are fed up enough of having to access testing then they won’t ever be cases, it’s a win
People all over Sydney are facing huge waits at COVID testing centres and some are even being turned away as case numbers continue to climb. The soaring case numbers and testing requirements for interstate travel are causing huge queues at many testing clinics, and some people are being forced to wait for several hours in their cars. At the Fairfield testing centre in Sydney’s west, some people say they were told their test results would take 72 hours to be returned due to the high demand.
all good though, from where Corruption are sitting the health system is coping nicely
Despite the increase in COVID cases, the number of people needing hospital care has remained steady. There are 215 people in hospital, including 24 in intensive care.
seems pretty steady, they were gloating about 150 last week, 215 = 150 for steadiness
It is the first time daily cases have reached the 3,000 mark anywhere in Australia. Hospitalisations again increased today to 284, up from 261 yesterday.
remember when they had like the lowest number of hospitalisations ever in the history of mankind, like 140 or something, ages ago
ages like 1 week ago
NSW has recorded 3,763 COVID-19 cases and two deaths in the 24 hours to 8pm.
It is the highest number of daily COVID-19 infections recorded in any Australian jurisdiction.
Hospitalisations for COVID have risen to 302, up from 284 in the previous reporting period.
Laugh Out Loud, Roll On The Floor Laugh Our Donkeys Off
“We’ve now reached the stage where we’ve done all we can in terms of protecting the community … all the good work is done now in terms of getting vaccinated … we can’t wait for 100 per cent vaccination because it will never happen..
“Unfortunately, people will die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make the next step … opening up the state and just keep trying to push the message about vaccination,” he said.
