I found a quote from 1935.
“what happened I don’t know, but I was a cot case coming away. I’ve a foul suspicion that they put a rooster in the grog, or something equally as heinous.”
Would “rooster” refer to a strong sedative, what we would now call a “roofie”?
What is the etymological history of the word “roofie” anyway? Perhaps derived from “rooster”.
mollwollfumble said:
I found a quote from 1935.“what happened I don’t know, but I was a cot case coming away. I’ve a foul suspicion that they put a rooster in the grog, or something equally as heinous.”
Would “rooster” refer to a strong sedative, what we would now call a “roofie”?
What is the etymological history of the word “roofie” anyway? Perhaps derived from “rooster”.
As far as I know, a roofie is the silly bugger who will get up on your roof and attempt to put it back in order.
A rooster in the grog though is something with a beak and claws.
In my day it was a book written by a Mickey Finn.
mollwollfumble said:
I found a quote from 1935.“what happened I don’t know, but I was a cot case coming away. I’ve a foul suspicion that they put a rooster in the grog, or something equally as heinous.”
Would “rooster” refer to a strong sedative, what we would now call a “roofie”?
What is the etymological history of the word “roofie” anyway? Perhaps derived from “rooster”.
I have never heard of any sedative called a “roofie”.
A roofie is a tradesman who fixes or replaces rooves.
Also, consider cock ale:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cock_ale
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
I found a quote from 1935.“what happened I don’t know, but I was a cot case coming away. I’ve a foul suspicion that they put a rooster in the grog, or something equally as heinous.”
Would “rooster” refer to a strong sedative, what we would now call a “roofie”?
What is the etymological history of the word “roofie” anyway? Perhaps derived from “rooster”.
I have never heard of any sedative called a “roofie”.
A roofie is a tradesman who fixes or replaces rooves.
Also, consider cock ale:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cock_ale
Roffie is from Rohypnol.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Roffie is from Rohypnol.
I was too slow catching up. I felt it related to the name of the offending drug in some way.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
I found a quote from 1935.“what happened I don’t know, but I was a cot case coming away. I’ve a foul suspicion that they put a rooster in the grog, or something equally as heinous.”
Would “rooster” refer to a strong sedative, what we would now call a “roofie”?
What is the etymological history of the word “roofie” anyway? Perhaps derived from “rooster”.
I have never heard of any sedative called a “roofie”.
A roofie is a tradesman who fixes or replaces rooves.
Also, consider cock ale:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cock_ale
Possibly an early term for a Rohypnol type substance.
Rohypnol. Correct.
“Flunitrazepam, nicknamed “roofies”, is widely known for its use as a date rape drug.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flunitrazepam
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Rufie
It seems to have quite a few street names.
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Roffie is from Rohypnol.
I was too slow catching up. I felt it related to the name of the offending drug in some way.
It was common vernacular on British police dramas. Hadn’t really heard anyone using it in Australia but then I don’t frequent the places where the drug is used.
roughbarked said:
mollwollfumble said:
I found a quote from 1935.“what happened I don’t know, but I was a cot case coming away. I’ve a foul suspicion that they put a rooster in the grog, or something equally as heinous.”
Would “rooster” refer to a strong sedative, what we would now call a “roofie”?
What is the etymological history of the word “roofie” anyway? Perhaps derived from “rooster”.
As far as I know, a roofie is the silly bugger who will get up on your roof and attempt to put it back in order.
A rooster in the grog though is something with a beak and claws.
In my day it was a book written by a Mickey Finn.
The word roofie entered the Oxford Dictionary in 2010, I assumed it wasn’t the roofing contractor.
> A rooster in the grog though is something with a beak and claws.
Ah, then not as I guessed a sedative that knocked you out until the early morning when the rooster crows.
> In my day it was a book written by a Mickey Finn.
Looking up origins on wiki: “In December 1903, several Chicago newspapers documented that a Michael “Mickey” Finn managed the Lone Star Saloon and was accused of using knockout drops to incapacitate and rob some of his customers.”
I assume it is a bastardisation of the brand name “Rohypnol” – you can kinda see how it could end up as “Rophy” and then “Roofie” if you squint.
As for “Rooster in the grog barrel” – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cock_ale
mollwollfumble said:
I found a quote from 1935.“what happened I don’t know, but I was a cot case coming away. I’ve a foul suspicion that they put a rooster in the grog, or something equally as heinous.”
Would “rooster” refer to a strong sedative, what we would now call a “roofie”?
What is the etymological history of the word “roofie” anyway? Perhaps derived from “rooster”.
Out of the hundred or so ‘rooster’ references I read through in the Urban Dictionary
the only one that seems to fit the the 1935 Quote (something heinous placed in a drink to make you sick)
is Rooster Poot
wadduya reckon?
Dark Orange said:
As for “Rooster in the grog barrel” – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cock_ale
THAT MAKES EVEN MORE SENSE
I’d imagine if not concocted properly (say if the parboiled chook had gone off)
it would certainly reduce you to becoming “A Cot Case”… or worse…
Dark Orange said:
I assume it is a bastardisation of the brand name “Rohypnol” – you can kinda see how it could end up as “Rophy” and then “Roofie” if you squint.
As for “Rooster in the grog barrel” – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cock_ale
Hey!
I’ve already given that reference!
;)
Michael V said:
Dark Orange said:I assume it is a bastardisation of the brand name “Rohypnol” – you can kinda see how it could end up as “Rophy” and then “Roofie” if you squint.
As for “Rooster in the grog barrel” – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cock_ale
Hey!
I’ve already given that reference!
;)
if the grog was traditionally made using a par-boiled cock
WHY? what was the actual purpose of adding any kind of meat to any kind of beverage?
then it came back to me from the dim past concerning an alleged Old Moonshiner/Bootlegger’s Trick
of hastening the fermentation of the mash by introducing a dead rat
whatever the truth and case may be, it stands to reason that cleaning the meat and eliminating
as much bacteria as possible prior to the addition by par boiling it seems to make perfect sense
the next question that leaps to mind is the connection between Cock Ale & Cocktails
