Been a while.

Morrison a bully

JudgeMental said:

Been a while.

Not long enough.

mollwollfumble said:

JudgeMental said:

Been a while.

Not long enough.

OK, how about “It has been a while since we had a new aus politics thread”

This is Nicole Flint in her own words on how the PM was very supportive of her and not the other way around where she had her words twisted by Crickey to make a trap for fools.
It so happens that in the wee hours of this morning I listened to that on RN.

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/betweenthelines/politics-of-the-mistreatment-of-women-and-how-cancel-culture/13682274

Peak Warming Man said:

This is Nicole Flint in her own words on how the PM was very supportive of her and not the other way around where she had her words twisted by Crickey to make a trap for fools.
It so happens that in the wee hours of this morning I listened to that on RN.

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/betweenthelines/politics-of-the-mistreatment-of-women-and-how-cancel-culture/13682274

ahhhh so archer and banks must be lying then, goodo, carry on.

>Flint was also a target of the progressive activist group GetUp, who labelled her South Australia’s “most backwards politician”.

Might be true, now that Bernardi has retired.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolle_Flint

Bubblecar said:

>Flint was also a target of the progressive activist group GetUp, who labelled her South Australia’s “most backwards politician”.

Might be true, now that Bernardi has retired.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolle_Flint

Her voting pattern is consistently hard right in virtually every respect.

Only exception I can see is that she voted for “strengthening gun laws”, but that’s an idiosyncratic issue in Oz.

https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/boothby/nicolle_flint

JudgeMental said:

Been a while.

Morrison a bully

I remember when they called Rudd a bully because he expected people to work hard.

sarahs mum said:

JudgeMental said:

Been a while.

Morrison a bully

I remember when they called Rudd a bully because he expected people to work hard.

i wonder what PWM take on that was and whether he had anything to say at all.

:-)

JudgeMental said:

sarahs mum said:

JudgeMental said:

Been a while.

Morrison a bully

I remember when they called Rudd a bully because he expected people to work hard.

i wonder what PWM take on that was and whether he had anything to say at all.

:-)

I don’t recall Rudd being called a bully because he expected people to work hard.
Unless it was his concession speech writer.

Peak Warming Man said:

JudgeMental said:

sarahs mum said:

I remember when they called Rudd a bully because he expected people to work hard.

i wonder what PWM take on that was and whether he had anything to say at all.

:-)

I don’t recall Rudd being called a bully because he expected people to work hard.
Unless it was his concession speech writer.

A google of ‘Rudd’ and ‘bully’ seems to suggest it was a thing.

sarahs mum said:

JudgeMental said:

Been a while.

Morrison a bully

I remember when they called Rudd a bully because he expected people to work hard.

Docks worker nicknamed ‘rat dog’ loses bullying case

Apparently he could have defecated in a colleagues boots and it still wouldn’t have been bullying ..

Peak Warming Man said:

I don’t recall Rudd being called a bully because he expected people to work hard.

I do. That was the reason they rolled him.

He somehow lost sight of the fact that the PM is a humble appointee of the parliamentary branch of the ruling party and can be sacked if they are displeased.

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I don’t recall Rudd being called a bully because he expected people to work hard.

I do. That was the reason they rolled him.

He somehow lost sight of the fact that the PM is a humble appointee of the parliamentary branch of the ruling party and can be sacked if they are displeased.

Tthe COALition are seemingly not displeased with the face Scomo fronts up with.

Peak Warming Man said:

This is Nicole Flint in her own words on how the PM was very supportive of her and not the other way around where she had her words twisted by Crickey to make a trap for fools.
It so happens that in the wee hours of this morning I listened to that on RN.

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/betweenthelines/politics-of-the-mistreatment-of-women-and-how-cancel-culture/13682274

Show some respect PWM.

Her name is Nicolle.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I don’t recall Rudd being called a bully because he expected people to work hard.

I do. That was the reason they rolled him.

He somehow lost sight of the fact that the PM is a humble appointee of the parliamentary branch of the ruling party and can be sacked if they are displeased.

Tthe COALition are seemingly not displeased with the face Scomo fronts up with.

It’s probably too late to change horse. The election is two or three months away.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I don’t recall Rudd being called a bully because he expected people to work hard.

I do. That was the reason they rolled him.

He somehow lost sight of the fact that the PM is a humble appointee of the parliamentary branch of the ruling party and can be sacked if they are displeased.

Tthe COALition are seemingly not displeased with the face Scomo fronts up with.

They’re quite busy with their various rorts and schemes, and happy to let ScoMo keep the media occupied.

Flashback to three years ago.

Immediately after Morrison became PM the “Bludgertrack” polling average was 54.8 – 45.2 in ALP’s favour.

In early Jan 2019 it was at 53-47 in ALP’s favour. By mid-May that had rolled to 51.7 – 48.3.

https://www.michaelwest.com.au/they-let-her-rip-and-she-ripped-government-collapses-in-australia/

JudgeMental said:

https://www.michaelwest.com.au/they-let-her-rip-and-she-ripped-government-collapses-in-australia/

We ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.

She’s got a lot more ripping to do, these are early days.

Bubblecar said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.michaelwest.com.au/they-let-her-rip-and-she-ripped-government-collapses-in-australia/

We ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.

She’s got a lot more ripping to do, these are early days.

Very much so.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SquizzSTK/status/1478872465409335298

There has been some suggestion that Ibrahim was unprofessional and truculent in her interview with Albo today.

Journalists are supposed to put politicians on the spot and ask difficult questions so a bit of light aggro is okay.

On the other hand she does seem to interrupt him a bit more than is standard, and doesn’t quite express herself in an organised manner.

dv said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SquizzSTK/status/1478872465409335298

There has been some suggestion that Ibrahim was unprofessional and truculent in her interview with Albo today.

Journalists are supposed to put politicians on the spot and ask difficult questions so a bit of light aggro is okay.

On the other hand she does seem to interrupt him a bit more than is standard, and doesn’t quite express herself in an organised manner.

Who’s the bloke she’s interviewing?

sibeen said:

dv said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SquizzSTK/status/1478872465409335298

There has been some suggestion that Ibrahim was unprofessional and truculent in her interview with Albo today.

Journalists are supposed to put politicians on the spot and ask difficult questions so a bit of light aggro is okay.

On the other hand she does seem to interrupt him a bit more than is standard, and doesn’t quite express herself in an organised manner.

Who’s the bloke she’s interviewing?

Elbonese

sibeen said:

dv said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SquizzSTK/status/1478872465409335298

There has been some suggestion that Ibrahim was unprofessional and truculent in her interview with Albo today.

Journalists are supposed to put politicians on the spot and ask difficult questions so a bit of light aggro is okay.

On the other hand she does seem to interrupt him a bit more than is standard, and doesn’t quite express herself in an organised manner.

Who’s the bloke she’s interviewing?

good grief even I don’t repeat the same joke over and over and expect to get a laugh each time.

JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SquizzSTK/status/1478872465409335298

There has been some suggestion that Ibrahim was unprofessional and truculent in her interview with Albo today.

Journalists are supposed to put politicians on the spot and ask difficult questions so a bit of light aggro is okay.

On the other hand she does seem to interrupt him a bit more than is standard, and doesn’t quite express herself in an organised manner.

Who’s the bloke she’s interviewing?

good grief even I don’t repeat the same joke over and over and expect to get a laugh each time.

Is that true?

dv said:

JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

Who’s the bloke she’s interviewing?

good grief even I don’t repeat the same joke over and over and expect to get a laugh each time.

Is that true?

which part?

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

JudgeMental said:

good grief even I don’t repeat the same joke over and over and expect to get a laugh each time.

Is that true?

which part?

Not the part where your jokes get a laugh.

Witty Rejoinder said:

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

Is that true?

which part?

Not the part where your jokes get a laugh.

hope your hdd crashes and you lose your lists.

JudgeMental said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

JudgeMental said:

which part?

Not the part where your jokes get a laugh.

hope your hdd crashes and you lose your lists.

My lists are more grey matter than silicon chips and what-not.

Witty Rejoinder said:

JudgeMental said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Not the part where your jokes get a laugh.

hope your hdd crashes and you lose your lists.

My lists are more grey matter than silicon chips and what-not.

even more frangible

Witty Rejoinder said:

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

Is that true?

which part?

Not the part where your jokes get a laugh.

Hehehehe

dv said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SquizzSTK/status/1478872465409335298

There has been some suggestion that Ibrahim was unprofessional and truculent in her interview with Albo today.

Journalists are supposed to put politicians on the spot and ask difficult questions so a bit of light aggro is okay.

On the other hand she does seem to interrupt him a bit more than is standard, and doesn’t quite express herself in an organised manner.

OK, just watched it. It was a train wreck, and not on Albo’s part.

sibeen said:

dv said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SquizzSTK/status/1478872465409335298

There has been some suggestion that Ibrahim was unprofessional and truculent in her interview with Albo today.

Journalists are supposed to put politicians on the spot and ask difficult questions so a bit of light aggro is okay.

On the other hand she does seem to interrupt him a bit more than is standard, and doesn’t quite express herself in an organised manner.

OK, just watched it. It was a train wreck, and not on Albo’s part.

There was a tweet from a familiar name about it earlier today…

—————

Cheryl Kernot
@cheryl_kernot · 9h

I raised this propensity with her when she first started at @abcnews some time ago, advising (helpfully) that Australian ABC viewers would not like it. She told me she was just trying to make it “interesting & entertaining.”

Neophyte said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SquizzSTK/status/1478872465409335298

There has been some suggestion that Ibrahim was unprofessional and truculent in her interview with Albo today.

Journalists are supposed to put politicians on the spot and ask difficult questions so a bit of light aggro is okay.

On the other hand she does seem to interrupt him a bit more than is standard, and doesn’t quite express herself in an organised manner.

OK, just watched it. It was a train wreck, and not on Albo’s part.

There was a tweet from a familiar name about it earlier today…

—————

Cheryl Kernot
@cheryl_kernot · 9h

I raised this propensity with her when she first started at @abcnews some time ago, advising (helpfully) that Australian ABC viewers would not like it. She told me she was just trying to make it “interesting & entertaining.”

Hey, it’d work on Fox.

Omicron crisis shows our political leaders haven’t learnt from past COVID mistakes, they just wait to listen to the mob.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/omicron-covid-leaders-not-learning-from-mistakes/100744162

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/morrison-government-sets-records-in-economic-mismanagement,15457

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/debunking-the-myth-that-the-coalition-are-good-economic-managers,15917

JudgeMental said:

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/morrison-government-sets-records-in-economic-mismanagement,15457

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/debunking-the-myth-that-the-coalition-are-good-economic-managers,15917

Hear hear.

The Biggest RAT in Australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-niugQsMZE

—Friendly Jordies.

Who knew julie Bishop was in the Rat retailing business?

sarahs mum said:

The Biggest RAT in Australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-niugQsMZE

—Friendly Jordies.

Who knew julie Bishop was in the Rat retailing business?

She used to hang around with a lot of them.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

The Biggest RAT in Australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-niugQsMZE

—Friendly Jordies.

Who knew julie Bishop was in the Rat retailing business?

She used to hang around with a lot of them.

Sorry. It is her partner and step daughters who own that company. so it is who she hangs around with.

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

The Biggest RAT in Australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-niugQsMZE

—Friendly Jordies.

Who knew julie Bishop was in the Rat retailing business?

She used to hang around with a lot of them.

Sorry. It is her partner and step daughters who own that company. so it is who she hangs around with.

clarification.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/12/how-australias-handling-of-djokovic-exposed-its-flawed-immigration-system-to-the-world

JudgeMental said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/12/how-australias-handling-of-djokovic-exposed-its-flawed-immigration-system-to-the-world

because it wasn’t widely known before

JudgeMental said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/12/how-australias-handling-of-djokovic-exposed-its-flawed-immigration-system-to-the-world

We have something to thank novax for.

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/12/how-australias-handling-of-djokovic-exposed-its-flawed-immigration-system-to-the-world

because it wasn’t widely known before

The rest of the world knew. The Australian voter didn’t give a rats arse until now.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/12/how-australias-handling-of-djokovic-exposed-its-flawed-immigration-system-to-the-world

because it wasn’t widely known before

The rest of the world knew. The Australian voter didn’t give a rats arse until now.

What makes you think the Australian voter gives a rat’s arse now?

Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

because it wasn’t widely known before

The rest of the world knew. The Australian voter didn’t give a rats arse until now.

What makes you think the Australian voter gives a rat’s arse now?

Probably will forget about it tomorrow, yeah.

I read this this morning:

“Scott Morrison runs this country like he’s ruling from a pulpit. He gives press conferences without any insight into the senseless shit that’s coming out of his mouth. A second press conference can take place an hour later that completely contradicts the first one, but he can’t see it – he was speaking god’s truth at both. He’s talking AT us as if we’re so in awe of him as a “religious leader” that we’re not paying attention to what he’s actually saying. He treats the tax we pay as if it’s a tithing to a church (so you can renovate your house, give gifts to your friends, buy favours, enrich your own political organisation) rather than “we’re giving you this money because you’re supposed to be using it for the benefit of EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY”. He’s like the leader of any church – it’s a total abuse of power over the people beneath you. The saddest thing about Scummo though is that I suspect he’s drunk so much Hillsong Cool-Aid that half the time he doesn’t even realise he’s doing it, he just thinks that’s how a normal society is supposed to operate.”

— Jules A.

JudgeMental said:

I read this this morning:

“Scott Morrison runs this country like he’s ruling from a pulpit. He gives press conferences without any insight into the senseless shit that’s coming out of his mouth. A second press conference can take place an hour later that completely contradicts the first one, but he can’t see it – he was speaking god’s truth at both. He’s talking AT us as if we’re so in awe of him as a “religious leader” that we’re not paying attention to what he’s actually saying. He treats the tax we pay as if it’s a tithing to a church (so you can renovate your house, give gifts to your friends, buy favours, enrich your own political organisation) rather than “we’re giving you this money because you’re supposed to be using it for the benefit of EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY”. He’s like the leader of any church – it’s a total abuse of power over the people beneath you. The saddest thing about Scummo though is that I suspect he’s drunk so much Hillsong Cool-Aid that half the time he doesn’t even realise he’s doing it, he just thinks that’s how a normal society is supposed to operate.”

— Jules A.

USING CAPITALS MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID.

And it’s ‘kool-aid’, Jules, you idiot.

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

I read this this morning:

“Scott Morrison runs this country like he’s ruling from a pulpit. He gives press conferences without any insight into the senseless shit that’s coming out of his mouth. A second press conference can take place an hour later that completely contradicts the first one, but he can’t see it – he was speaking god’s truth at both. He’s talking AT us as if we’re so in awe of him as a “religious leader” that we’re not paying attention to what he’s actually saying. He treats the tax we pay as if it’s a tithing to a church (so you can renovate your house, give gifts to your friends, buy favours, enrich your own political organisation) rather than “we’re giving you this money because you’re supposed to be using it for the benefit of EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY”. He’s like the leader of any church – it’s a total abuse of power over the people beneath you. The saddest thing about Scummo though is that I suspect he’s drunk so much Hillsong Cool-Aid that half the time he doesn’t even realise he’s doing it, he just thinks that’s how a normal society is supposed to operate.”

— Jules A.

USING CAPITALS MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID.

And it’s ‘kool-aid’, Jules, you idiot.

Maybe he didn’t want to endorse a particular product, so went a more generic name.

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

I read this this morning:

“Scott Morrison runs this country like he’s ruling from a pulpit. He gives press conferences without any insight into the senseless shit that’s coming out of his mouth. A second press conference can take place an hour later that completely contradicts the first one, but he can’t see it – he was speaking god’s truth at both. He’s talking AT us as if we’re so in awe of him as a “religious leader” that we’re not paying attention to what he’s actually saying. He treats the tax we pay as if it’s a tithing to a church (so you can renovate your house, give gifts to your friends, buy favours, enrich your own political organisation) rather than “we’re giving you this money because you’re supposed to be using it for the benefit of EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY”. He’s like the leader of any church – it’s a total abuse of power over the people beneath you. The saddest thing about Scummo though is that I suspect he’s drunk so much Hillsong Cool-Aid that half the time he doesn’t even realise he’s doing it, he just thinks that’s how a normal society is supposed to operate.”

— Jules A.

USING CAPITALS MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID.

Yes, it does.

JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

I read this this morning:

“Scott Morrison runs this country like he’s ruling from a pulpit. He gives press conferences without any insight into the senseless shit that’s coming out of his mouth. A second press conference can take place an hour later that completely contradicts the first one, but he can’t see it – he was speaking god’s truth at both. He’s talking AT us as if we’re so in awe of him as a “religious leader” that we’re not paying attention to what he’s actually saying. He treats the tax we pay as if it’s a tithing to a church (so you can renovate your house, give gifts to your friends, buy favours, enrich your own political organisation) rather than “we’re giving you this money because you’re supposed to be using it for the benefit of EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY”. He’s like the leader of any church – it’s a total abuse of power over the people beneath you. The saddest thing about Scummo though is that I suspect he’s drunk so much Hillsong Cool-Aid that half the time he doesn’t even realise he’s doing it, he just thinks that’s how a normal society is supposed to operate.”

— Jules A.

USING CAPITALS MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID.

Yes, it does.

You just couldn’t resist, could you?

Australia’s economic figures are a nonsense – and voters should not believe the Coalition’s spin Greg Jericho

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

USING CAPITALS MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID.

Yes, it does.

You just couldn’t resist, could you?

Resistance is futile.

JudgeMental said:

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

Yes, it does.

You just couldn’t resist, could you?

Resistance is futile.

:)

‘Scapegoating’: Ruston slammed for suggesting unemployed should tool up to solve crisis

SCIENCE said:

You’ll notice that Marise calls for rights and freedoms for the people of Hong Kong.

Doesn’t mention Australia.

You cant get her that way.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-13/tim-james-wins-willoughby-preselection/100755766

sarahs mum said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-13/tim-james-wins-willoughby-preselection/100755766

He has an unfair advantage, built in billboard space…

furious said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-13/tim-james-wins-willoughby-preselection/100755766

He has an unfair advantage, built in billboard space…

The empty space around him complements the empty space within.

Tau.Neutrino said:

furious said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-13/tim-james-wins-willoughby-preselection/100755766

He has an unfair advantage, built in billboard space…

The empty space around him complements the empty space within.

I was referring to his forehead…

furious said:

sarahs mum said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-13/tim-james-wins-willoughby-preselection/100755766

He has an unfair advantage, built in billboard space…

He could knock a lot of people over walking down the street.

Imagines a giant billboard walking down the street, knocking people over.

Advertise Here.

Space for Sale.

I thought he looked like someone you wouldn’t buy a car from.

sarahs mum said:

I thought he looked like someone you wouldn’t buy a car from.

I wouldn’t buy a car from him.

sarahs mum said:

I thought he looked like someone you wouldn’t buy a car from.

Correct.

Government management of Omicron blighted by false assumptions, bad planning

Right-wing politics is cancerous to democracy, society, and human life

JudgeMental said:

Right-wing politics is cancerous to democracy, society, and human life

¿ so it’s only true democracy if it’s left

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

Right-wing politics is cancerous to democracy, society, and human life

¿ so it’s only true democracy if it’s left

There’s nothing between “right wing” and “left” now?

Where did it go?

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

Right-wing politics is cancerous to democracy, society, and human life

¿ so it’s only true democracy if it’s left

There’s nothing between “right wing” and “left” now?

Where did it go?

When everyone takes a step or three to the right the greens become centrists. There isn’t any left left.

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

Right-wing politics is cancerous to democracy, society, and human life

¿ so it’s only true democracy if it’s left

yes, but not too far left.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

Right-wing politics is cancerous to democracy, society, and human life

¿ so it’s only true democracy if it’s left

There’s nothing between “right wing” and “left” now?

Where did it go?

It’s a set of measure zero.

Is this fair or is Carlton just biased by the recency?

dv said:

Is this fair or is Carlton just biased by the recency?

fair.
We disliked other PMs for a different bunch of reasons.

dv said:

Is this fair or is Carlton just biased by the recency?

I couldn’t possibly comment. I don’t go as far back as Menzies.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Is this fair or is Carlton just biased by the recency?

fair.
We disliked other PMs for a different bunch of reasons.

well there’s that trouble with cults of personality isn’t there, other supposed leaders you get to judge on their policy, whatever, but these arseholes seriously the character flaws it’s fucking over the top

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Is this fair or is Carlton just biased by the recency?

fair.
We disliked other PMs for a different bunch of reasons.

True. Scummo isn’t called Scummo because he is just another PM.

sibeen said:

dv said:

Is this fair or is Carlton just biased by the recency?

I couldn’t possibly comment. I don’t go as far back as Menzies.

hmmm

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Is this fair or is Carlton just biased by the recency?

fair.
We disliked other PMs for a different bunch of reasons.

well there’s that trouble with cults of personality isn’t there, other supposed leaders you get to judge on their policy, whatever, but these arseholes seriously the character flaws it’s fucking over the top

You do have cults but Rupert has been working on creating lynch mob headlines for the wider population for a very long time and he us actually stiil there doing the same thing.

Scott Morrison has an arrogant certainty about him. Whether this comes from his self-perceived divine ordination, his devotion to ideology, an inflated view of his own merit, or a fear of appearing weak, it is an increasingly dangerous trait. He just won’t listen.

JudgeMental said:

Scott Morrison has an arrogant certainty about him. Whether this comes from his self-perceived divine ordination, his devotion to ideology, an inflated view of his own merit, or a fear of appearing weak, it is an increasingly dangerous trait. He just won’t listen.

Pulpit Syndrome.

Pete Townshend talked all about this in his rock opera Tommy.

Alan Kohler: Neoliberalism is at the heart of the Omicron shambles

JudgeMental said:

Alan Kohler: Neoliberalism is at the heart of the Omicron shambles

I’ll have to disagree with the final sentence in that article – We’d all be vastly better off if the government did less. That way they can do less damage.

JudgeMental said:

Alan Kohler: Neoliberalism is at the heart of the Omicron shambles

read some of that, most

might’ve just asked regular folk this question..

how much circulating covid do you want with your vaccine

save a whole lot of nonsense

can-do capitalism at its finest

RATS price gouging

JudgeMental said:

can-do capitalism at its finest

RATS price gouging

There should be a blooke with a stall selling get out of hell free cards somewhere around.

JudgeMental said:

can-do capitalism at its finest

RATS price gouging

ScoMo said that he didn’t want the government to ‘undercut the private sector on this’.

Seems like the govt wouldn’t have had to try very hard to achieve that undercut.

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

can-do capitalism at its finest

RATS price gouging

ScoMo said that he didn’t want the government to ‘undercut the private sector on this’.

Seems like the govt wouldn’t have had to try very hard to achieve that undercut.

Hell in a handbasket?

Unions threaten industrial action if employers do not agree to cover the cost of rapid antigen tests for staff, but business groups have already labelled the request “unworkable”.
Posted 6m ago

Rapid antigen tests: Australian consumers miss out as government and big business snap up supplies

>>>However, he said anecdotal reports from his members that stock was being requisitioned by governments had proved to be unsubstantiated. The federal health minister, Greg Hunt, denied on Monday the commonwealth was requisitioning supplies of rapid antigen tests, as the Health Act allows.

>>>The Morrison government appears not to have foreseen the huge surge in demand for consumer-administered tests as a result of a policy pivot towards “living with the virus”. This may explain why the(sic) it was forced to use its urgency purchasing mechanism to source consumer rapid antigen tests.

Hmmmm so which is it?

Returning travellers made to hand over phones and passcodes to Australian Border Force

JudgeMental said:

Returning travellers made to hand over phones and passcodes to Australian Border Force

I wonder if they are actually allowed to do that.

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

can-do capitalism at its finest

RATS price gouging

There should be a blooke with a stall selling get out of hell free cards somewhere around.

>>The agency had also received reports of people onselling RATs at more than 20 per cent mark-up, which was illegal.<<

Why is it illegal? They are obviously not a pharmacy only item.

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

can-do capitalism at its finest

RATS price gouging

There should be a blooke with a stall selling get out of hell free cards somewhere around.

>>The agency had also received reports of people onselling RATs at more than 20 per cent mark-up, which was illegal.<<

Why is it illegal? They are obviously not a pharmacy only item.

there are scalping laws in australia and this may come under them. tickets to major events have a 10% allowable mark-up.

JudgeMental said:

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

There should be a blooke with a stall selling get out of hell free cards somewhere around.

>>The agency had also received reports of people onselling RATs at more than 20 per cent mark-up, which was illegal.<<

Why is it illegal? They are obviously not a pharmacy only item.

there are scalping laws in australia and this may come under them. tickets to major events have a 10% allowable mark-up.

There’s a specific order been made under some pandemic/health laws. I forget the details.

JudgeMental said:

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

There should be a blooke with a stall selling get out of hell free cards somewhere around.

>>The agency had also received reports of people onselling RATs at more than 20 per cent mark-up, which was illegal.<<

Why is it illegal? They are obviously not a pharmacy only item.

there are scalping laws in australia and this may come under them. tickets to major events have a 10% allowable mark-up.

Don’t the scalping laws only apply to tickets?

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

buffy said:

>>The agency had also received reports of people onselling RATs at more than 20 per cent mark-up, which was illegal.<<

Why is it illegal? They are obviously not a pharmacy only item.

there are scalping laws in australia and this may come under them. tickets to major events have a 10% allowable mark-up.

There’s a specific order been made under some pandemic/health laws. I forget the details.

So that is federal then?

buffy said:

JudgeMental said:

buffy said:

>>The agency had also received reports of people onselling RATs at more than 20 per cent mark-up, which was illegal.<<

Why is it illegal? They are obviously not a pharmacy only item.

there are scalping laws in australia and this may come under them. tickets to major events have a 10% allowable mark-up.

Don’t the scalping laws only apply to tickets?

I did say “may”.

buffy said:

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

there are scalping laws in australia and this may come under them. tickets to major events have a 10% allowable mark-up.

There’s a specific order been made under some pandemic/health laws. I forget the details.

So that is federal then?

I assume so, but as I say, I forgot the details.

buffy said:

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

there are scalping laws in australia and this may come under them. tickets to major events have a 10% allowable mark-up.

There’s a specific order been made under some pandemic/health laws. I forget the details.

So that is federal then?

Must be this bit:

>>The federal government has included RATs in the group of healthcare products during the pandemic that are subject to strict anti-price gouging rules. Under those rules, selling a RAT for more than 120 per cent of its wholesale price could incur a penalty of five years’ jail time, $66,600, or both.<<

https://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/accc-s-sims-demands-rat-price-gougers-urgently-explain-100-price-tag-20220117-p59oqs.html

I suppose then you come to the bit about if this applies only to retailers or to backyarders/onliners as well who are not registered businesses. That will depend on the wording and we know how good the Feds are at getting the wording right.

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

can-do capitalism at its finest

RATS price gouging

There should be a blooke with a stall selling get out of hell free cards somewhere around.

>>The agency had also received reports of people onselling RATs at more than 20 per cent mark-up, which was illegal.<<

Why is it illegal? They are obviously not a pharmacy only item.

“National Cabinet noted the Commonwealth will prohibit price gouging of and the non-commercial export of RATs, similar to actions taken earlier in the pandemic relating to essential goods such as masks, other PPE and hand sanitiser. As was the case previously, price gouging will be defined as supplying or offering to supply essential goods at a price that is more than 120% of the initial purchase price (a 20% markup) and penalties for not complying with this direction will range up to five years imprisonment or $66,000.”

https://www.pm.gov.au/media/national-cabinet-statement-62

Now is the summer of our discontent

buffy said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

There’s a specific order been made under some pandemic/health laws. I forget the details.

So that is federal then?

Must be this bit:

>>The federal government has included RATs in the group of healthcare products during the pandemic that are subject to strict anti-price gouging rules. Under those rules, selling a RAT for more than 120 per cent of its wholesale price could incur a penalty of five years’ jail time, $66,600, or both.<<

https://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/accc-s-sims-demands-rat-price-gougers-urgently-explain-100-price-tag-20220117-p59oqs.html

I suppose then you come to the bit about if this applies only to retailers or to backyarders/onliners as well who are not registered businesses. That will depend on the wording and we know how good the Feds are at getting the wording right.

I haven’t found the health direction yet, so I cannot comment.

Michael V said:

buffy said:

buffy said:

So that is federal then?

Must be this bit:

>>The federal government has included RATs in the group of healthcare products during the pandemic that are subject to strict anti-price gouging rules. Under those rules, selling a RAT for more than 120 per cent of its wholesale price could incur a penalty of five years’ jail time, $66,600, or both.<<

https://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/accc-s-sims-demands-rat-price-gougers-urgently-explain-100-price-tag-20220117-p59oqs.html

I suppose then you come to the bit about if this applies only to retailers or to backyarders/onliners as well who are not registered businesses. That will depend on the wording and we know how good the Feds are at getting the wording right.

I haven’t found the health direction yet, so I cannot comment.

Here is the ACCC details, including graphs and stuff.

https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/concerning-pricing-of-rapid-antigen-tests

Michael V said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

There’s a specific order been made under some pandemic/health laws. I forget the details.

So that is federal then?

I assume so, but as I say, I forgot the details.

Well, if people abide by that rule/law, it’ll be the first time that anyone’s paid any attention to anything that Canberra has to say about this pandemic.

Michael V said:

buffy said:

buffy said:

So that is federal then?

Must be this bit:

>>The federal government has included RATs in the group of healthcare products during the pandemic that are subject to strict anti-price gouging rules. Under those rules, selling a RAT for more than 120 per cent of its wholesale price could incur a penalty of five years’ jail time, $66,600, or both.<<

https://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/accc-s-sims-demands-rat-price-gougers-urgently-explain-100-price-tag-20220117-p59oqs.html

I suppose then you come to the bit about if this applies only to retailers or to backyarders/onliners as well who are not registered businesses. That will depend on the wording and we know how good the Feds are at getting the wording right.

I haven’t found the health direction yet, so I cannot comment.

I give up.

Other things to do.

buffy said:

Michael V said:

buffy said:

Must be this bit:

>>The federal government has included RATs in the group of healthcare products during the pandemic that are subject to strict anti-price gouging rules. Under those rules, selling a RAT for more than 120 per cent of its wholesale price could incur a penalty of five years’ jail time, $66,600, or both.<<

https://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/accc-s-sims-demands-rat-price-gougers-urgently-explain-100-price-tag-20220117-p59oqs.html

I suppose then you come to the bit about if this applies only to retailers or to backyarders/onliners as well who are not registered businesses. That will depend on the wording and we know how good the Feds are at getting the wording right.

I haven’t found the health direction yet, so I cannot comment.

Here is the ACCC details, including graphs and stuff.

https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/concerning-pricing-of-rapid-antigen-tests

Goddim!

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2022L00019

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

buffy said:

Must be this bit:

>>The federal government has included RATs in the group of healthcare products during the pandemic that are subject to strict anti-price gouging rules. Under those rules, selling a RAT for more than 120 per cent of its wholesale price could incur a penalty of five years’ jail time, $66,600, or both.<<

https://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/accc-s-sims-demands-rat-price-gougers-urgently-explain-100-price-tag-20220117-p59oqs.html

I suppose then you come to the bit about if this applies only to retailers or to backyarders/onliners as well who are not registered businesses. That will depend on the wording and we know how good the Feds are at getting the wording right.

I haven’t found the health direction yet, so I cannot comment.

I give up.

Other things to do.

What gets me, is if ya can’t get these things, then how come there’s tens if not hundreds of thousands +ve tests being reported every day???? Let alone the -ve results. Somebody must be able to get them, hey what but.

Woodie said:

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

I haven’t found the health direction yet, so I cannot comment.

I give up.

Other things to do.

What gets me, is if ya can’t get these things, then how come there’s tens if not hundreds of thousands +ve tests being reported every day???? Let alone the -ve results. Somebody must be able to get them, hey what but.

well, lets say there are 20000 RATS on the market but 20000 people want them. You are going to get 10000 people saying you can’t get them.

JudgeMental said:

Woodie said:

Michael V said:

I give up.

Other things to do.

What gets me, is if ya can’t get these things, then how come there’s tens if not hundreds of thousands +ve tests being reported every day???? Let alone the -ve results. Somebody must be able to get them, hey what but.

well, lets say there are 10000 RATS on the market but 20000 people want them. You are going to get 10000 people saying you can’t get them.

sorry 10000 RATS

Woodie said:

What gets me, is if ya can’t get these things, then how come there’s tens if not hundreds of thousands +ve tests being reported every day???? Let alone the -ve results. Somebody must be able to get them, hey what but.

and, and and…..

It’s not that many weeks ago that these RAT things were dismissed as a waste of time, inaccurate, and of no real use or purpose. Now they’re the saviour of our nation, the God send from heaven, the bees knees, and the ants pants since sliced bread.

So what changed? The actual physical tests certainly haven’t.

JudgeMental said:

JudgeMental said:

Woodie said:

What gets me, is if ya can’t get these things, then how come there’s tens if not hundreds of thousands +ve tests being reported every day???? Let alone the -ve results. Somebody must be able to get them, hey what but.

well, lets say there are 10000 RATS on the market but 20000 people want them. You are going to get 10000 people saying you can’t get them.

sorry 10000 RATS

We obviously need the Pied Piper.

JudgeMental said:

JudgeMental said:

Woodie said:

What gets me, is if ya can’t get these things, then how come there’s tens if not hundreds of thousands +ve tests being reported every day???? Let alone the -ve results. Somebody must be able to get them, hey what but.

well, lets say there are 10000 RATS on the market but 20000 people want them. You are going to get 10000 people saying you can’t get them.

sorry 10000 RATS

Media hype would have it the no one can get them. There ain’t any.

Woodie said:

Woodie said:

What gets me, is if ya can’t get these things, then how come there’s tens if not hundreds of thousands +ve tests being reported every day???? Let alone the -ve results. Somebody must be able to get them, hey what but.

and, and and…..

It’s not that many weeks ago that these RAT things were dismissed as a waste of time, inaccurate, and of no real use or purpose. Now they’re the saviour of our nation, the God send from heaven, the bees knees, and the ants pants since sliced bread.

So what changed? The actual physical tests certainly haven’t.

Dr Duncan-Smith said that RATs should be used for screening and monitoring once COVID-19 was widespread in the community after the border opening on February 5, but stated they were not as accurate as PCR tests.

“In the current environment, where we have little or no community spread, are really not helpful at all,” he said.

“If you get symptoms, what you should do is go to a testing centre and go and get a PCR test.

“The danger with a RAT, in our environment right now, is it’s a high risk of a false negative and what that could mean is you actually have COVID, but the test is negative and therefore you’re out in the community spreading the disease.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-09/rapid-antigen-tests-legal-in-wa-but-are-in-short-supply/100746382

probably something along these lines.

Woodie said:

JudgeMental said:

JudgeMental said:

well, lets say there are 10000 RATS on the market but 20000 people want them. You are going to get 10000 people saying you can’t get them.

sorry 10000 RATS

Media hype would have it the no one can get them. There ain’t any.

Media hype also say the suppliers are selling big to big corporations so maybe that is where the results are coming from and not so much from individuals.

Woodie said:

Woodie said:

What gets me, is if ya can’t get these things, then how come there’s tens if not hundreds of thousands +ve tests being reported every day???? Let alone the -ve results. Somebody must be able to get them, hey what but.

and, and and…..

It’s not that many weeks ago that these RAT things were dismissed as a waste of time, inaccurate, and of no real use or purpose. Now they’re the saviour of our nation, the God send from heaven, the bees knees, and the ants pants since sliced bread.

So what changed? The actual physical tests certainly haven’t.

They wanted to “open up”, but didn’t want to up-scale PCR test-trace systems.

Basically severe mismanagement.

Woodie said:

JudgeMental said:

JudgeMental said:

well, lets say there are 10000 RATS on the market but 20000 people want them. You are going to get 10000 people saying you can’t get them.

sorry 10000 RATS

Media hype would have it the no one can get them. There ain’t any.

Well, there are none available here in this village.

In SA I think you have to report the result of your test either way.

Michael V said:

Woodie said:

JudgeMental said:

sorry 10000 RATS

Media hype would have it the no one can get them. There ain’t any.

Well, there are none available here in this village.

None in Hamilton that I know of, but I’m not trying to get any. Not sure if they are using them at the drive through testing station as the first port of call and then doing a PCR if positive on RAT. I really don’t know how they do it. Again, I don’t need to attend.

Rang snug Medical. Can I have a booster down there? Yes. Tomorrow? Hang on.

Rang Matt. Can you take me tomorrow for a booster? Sure.

Rang Snug Medical. Yes We’re on.

——

I thought it would be harder than that.

buffy said:

Michael V said:

Woodie said:

Media hype would have it the no one can get them. There ain’t any.

Well, there are none available here in this village.

None in Hamilton that I know of, but I’m not trying to get any. Not sure if they are using them at the drive through testing station as the first port of call and then doing a PCR if positive on RAT. I really don’t know how they do it. Again, I don’t need to attend.

None in my village either.

sarahs mum said:

Rang snug Medical. Can I have a booster down there? Yes. Tomorrow? Hang on.

Rang Matt. Can you take me tomorrow for a booster? Sure.

Rang Snug Medical. Yes We’re on.

——

I thought it would be harder than that.

Cool!

:)

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

Rang snug Medical. Can I have a booster down there? Yes. Tomorrow? Hang on.

Rang Matt. Can you take me tomorrow for a booster? Sure.

Rang Snug Medical. Yes We’re on.

——

I thought it would be harder than that.

Cool!

:)

Peak Warming Man said:

In SA I think you have to report the result of your test either way.

love all the good work incentivizing getting tested, the certainty it brings, honesty and all

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

Rang snug Medical. Can I have a booster down there? Yes. Tomorrow? Hang on.

Rang Matt. Can you take me tomorrow for a booster? Sure.

Rang Snug Medical. Yes We’re on.

——

I thought it would be harder than that.

Cool!

:)

:)

:)

:)

Michael V said:

Woodie said:

Woodie said:

What gets me, is if ya can’t get these things, then how come there’s tens if not hundreds of thousands +ve tests being reported every day???? Let alone the -ve results. Somebody must be able to get them, hey what but.

and, and and…..

It’s not that many weeks ago that these RAT things were dismissed as a waste of time, inaccurate, and of no real use or purpose. Now they’re the saviour of our nation, the God send from heaven, the bees knees, and the ants pants since sliced bread.

So what changed? The actual physical tests certainly haven’t.

They wanted to “open up”, but didn’t want to up-scale PCR test-trace systems.

Basically severe mismanagement.

if you want covid to be endemic, to achieve herd immunity through exposure, you underfind covid until enough cases are sure to go unfound that transmission is sustained

in that is your endemic covid program

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

Rang snug Medical. Can I have a booster down there? Yes. Tomorrow? Hang on.

Rang Matt. Can you take me tomorrow for a booster? Sure.

Rang Snug Medical. Yes We’re on.

——

I thought it would be harder than that.

Cool!

:)

I’m boosted as of 0830 today.

Only slightly sore injection site so far.

(and a tendency to lapse into francais mutilé)

Ian said:

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

Cool!

:)

I’m boosted as of 0830 today.

Only slightly sore injection site so far.

(and a tendency to lapse into francais mutilé)

Onya!

Michael V said:

Ian said:

sarahs mum said:

I’m boosted as of 0830 today.

Only slightly sore injection site so far.

(and a tendency to lapse into francais mutilé)

Onya!

I’m not due till 12th of next month if it’s still 4 months or can I throw myself on the mercy of the establishment and say I’m in a special group because of age and get it done at 3 months?

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Ian said:

I’m boosted as of 0830 today.

Only slightly sore injection site so far.

(and a tendency to lapse into francais mutilé)

Onya!

I’m not due till 12th of next month if it’s still 4 months or can I throw myself on the mercy of the establishment and say I’m in a special group because of age and get it done at 3 months?

First of February – it becomes a three month wait. You could book something for then.

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Onya!

I’m not due till 12th of next month if it’s still 4 months or can I throw myself on the mercy of the establishment and say I’m in a special group because of age and get it done at 3 months?

First of February – it becomes a three month wait. You could book something for then.

Ta for that info.

transition said:

Michael V said:

Woodie said:

and, and and…..

It’s not that many weeks ago that these RAT things were dismissed as a waste of time, inaccurate, and of no real use or purpose. Now they’re the saviour of our nation, the God send from heaven, the bees knees, and the ants pants since sliced bread.

So what changed? The actual physical tests certainly haven’t.

They wanted to “open up”, but didn’t want to up-scale PCR test-trace systems.

Basically severe mismanagement.

if you want covid to be endemic, to achieve herd immunity through exposure, you underfind covid until enough cases are sure to go unfound that transmission is sustained

in that is your endemic covid program

Also you use inferior tests to falsely reassure people and get them out infecting others, it’s the best plan ¡

“A far-right former political candidate accused of importing hundreds of police badges to start a rival police force, arrest public servants and overthrow the government says it is “not very respectful” to deny her bail.

On Thursday, Teresa Angela van Lieshout promised the Adelaide Magistrates Court she would not take part in any “political meetings or public discussions” if granted home detention bail.

Speaking despite having a lawyer, and over the court’s repeated warnings to stop, she said a friend who was last year fined for breaching Covid-19 rules could be her guarantor.

“He’s got nothing to do with no political activities whatsoever … he’s like a father figure to me … he’s a man of character and, I assure you, a person of integrity,” she said.

Magistrate Brett Dixon was unconvinced and refused bail, telling Ms van Lieshout: “Your assurances from the dock carry little weight.”

Ms van Lieshout replied: “Well, that’s not very respectful.”

The former candidate, 49, of Peterborough, has yet to plead to one count of falsely representing herself as a Commonwealth public official.

She is further charged with one count of importing prohibited imports – the allegations arise from a federal counter-terrorism investigation sparked by a viral video.

The footage allegedly shows a person, falsely credited as a senior Australian Federal Police officer, calling Ms van Lieshout “the true governor-general” during a purported recruitment meeting.

Prosecutors allege Ms van Lieshout imported 470 fake badges from overseas as part of discussions to form an “alternative” police force and arrest politicians and public servants.

In 2013, mining magnate Clive Palmer endorsed Ms van Lieshout – who had posed in a bikini and run on an anti-psychiatry platform – as one of his party’s WA candidates……

Link, paywalled

JudgeMental said:

“A far-right former political candidate accused of importing hundreds of police badges to start a rival police force, arrest public servants and overthrow the government says it is “not very respectful” to deny her bail.

On Thursday, Teresa Angela van Lieshout promised the Adelaide Magistrates Court she would not take part in any “political meetings or public discussions” if granted home detention bail.

Speaking despite having a lawyer, and over the court’s repeated warnings to stop, she said a friend who was last year fined for breaching Covid-19 rules could be her guarantor.

“He’s got nothing to do with no political activities whatsoever … he’s like a father figure to me … he’s a man of character and, I assure you, a person of integrity,” she said.

Magistrate Brett Dixon was unconvinced and refused bail, telling Ms van Lieshout: “Your assurances from the dock carry little weight.”

Ms van Lieshout replied: “Well, that’s not very respectful.”

The former candidate, 49, of Peterborough, has yet to plead to one count of falsely representing herself as a Commonwealth public official.

She is further charged with one count of importing prohibited imports – the allegations arise from a federal counter-terrorism investigation sparked by a viral video.

The footage allegedly shows a person, falsely credited as a senior Australian Federal Police officer, calling Ms van Lieshout “the true governor-general” during a purported recruitment meeting.

Prosecutors allege Ms van Lieshout imported 470 fake badges from overseas as part of discussions to form an “alternative” police force and arrest politicians and public servants.

In 2013, mining magnate Clive Palmer endorsed Ms van Lieshout – who had posed in a bikini and run on an anti-psychiatry platform – as one of his party’s WA candidates……

Link, paywalled

Can you still get shot for treason in Aus?

JudgeMental said:

“A far-right former political candidate accused of importing hundreds of police badges to start a rival police force, arrest public servants and overthrow the government says it is “not very respectful” to deny her bail.

On Thursday, Teresa Angela van Lieshout promised the Adelaide Magistrates Court she would not take part in any “political meetings or public discussions” if granted home detention bail.

Speaking despite having a lawyer, and over the court’s repeated warnings to stop, she said a friend who was last year fined for breaching Covid-19 rules could be her guarantor.

“He’s got nothing to do with no political activities whatsoever … he’s like a father figure to me … he’s a man of character and, I assure you, a person of integrity,” she said.

Magistrate Brett Dixon was unconvinced and refused bail, telling Ms van Lieshout: “Your assurances from the dock carry little weight.”

Ms van Lieshout replied: “Well, that’s not very respectful.”

The former candidate, 49, of Peterborough, has yet to plead to one count of falsely representing herself as a Commonwealth public official.

She is further charged with one count of importing prohibited imports – the allegations arise from a federal counter-terrorism investigation sparked by a viral video.

The footage allegedly shows a person, falsely credited as a senior Australian Federal Police officer, calling Ms van Lieshout “the true governor-general” during a purported recruitment meeting.

Prosecutors allege Ms van Lieshout imported 470 fake badges from overseas as part of discussions to form an “alternative” police force and arrest politicians and public servants.

In 2013, mining magnate Clive Palmer endorsed Ms van Lieshout – who had posed in a bikini and run on an anti-psychiatry platform – as one of his party’s WA candidates……

Link, paywalled

far out.

Rogue Coalition backbencher George Christensen will quit his lucrative position as the chair of a parliamentary committee, after coming under renewed criticism for his anti-vaccination rhetoric.

roughbarked said:

Rogue Coalition backbencher George Christensen will quit his lucrative position as the chair of a parliamentary committee, after coming under renewed criticism for his anti-vaccination rhetoric.

Mr Christensen said he would quit the role, which adds an extra $23,000 to his yearly backbench salary, when parliament returns in February.

“I will be advising the Speaker that I intend to stand down as the chairman of the Joint Standing Committee on Trade and Investment Growth, a decision of my own making and not a demand or request from any third party,” he posted on Facebook.

The backbencher added that it would be news of “no interest to anyone but the Canberra bubble” — a term regularly used to dismiss scrutiny of developments and debates in federal parliament.

roughbarked said:

Rogue Coalition backbencher George Christensen will quit his lucrative position as the chair of a parliamentary committee, after coming under renewed criticism for his anti-vaccination rhetoric.

That would be the Australian Cultural Attache to Manila.

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Rogue Coalition backbencher George Christensen will quit his lucrative position as the chair of a parliamentary committee, after coming under renewed criticism for his anti-vaccination rhetoric.

That would be the Australian Cultural Attache to Manila.

:)

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Rogue Coalition backbencher George Christensen will quit his lucrative position as the chair of a parliamentary committee, after coming under renewed criticism for his anti-vaccination rhetoric.

That would be the Australian Cultural Attache to Manila.

He’s not very cultured.

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Rogue Coalition backbencher George Christensen will quit his lucrative position as the chair of a parliamentary committee, after coming under renewed criticism for his anti-vaccination rhetoric.

That would be the Australian Cultural Attache to Manila.

He’s not very cultured.

He has cultured a large tub of lard.

Bit of cheery news:

Christian Porter and barrister Sue Chrysanthou ordered to pay Jo Dyer $430,000 in legal costs

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/19/christian-porter-and-barrister-sue-crysanthou-ordered-to-pay-jo-dyer-430000-in-legal-costs

Bubblecar said:

Bit of cheery news:

Christian Porter and barrister Sue Chrysanthou ordered to pay Jo Dyer $430,000 in legal costs

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/19/christian-porter-and-barrister-sue-crysanthou-ordered-to-pay-jo-dyer-430000-in-legal-costs

good.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/19/christian-porter-and-barrister-sue-crysanthou-ordered-to-pay-jo-dyer-430000-in-legal-costs

Sad

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/19/christian-porter-and-barrister-sue-crysanthou-ordered-to-pay-jo-dyer-430000-in-legal-costs

Sad

I, for one, am all broke up about it.

dv said:

I wonder if that was his own notion, or if he was flailing around for soundbites and some saboteur whispered in his ear: “Tell ‘em you hope the states will let kiddies drive trucks…no, let’s say forklifts, that’s right, forklifts – you hope the states will let the kiddies drive forklifts and if they don’t, you’ll be seen as the hero, the voice in the wilderness…”

“NSW Premier says it’s not helpful to comment on other states’ decisions. Immediately comments on other state’s decision.

Dominic Perrottet says NSW is following the federal plan, just like Victoria and Queensland. He said NSW is not ‘going its own way’, contrary to some commentary from outside.

And it’s not helpful for other premiers to provide commentary on what other states are doing. Then said this about WA’s decision to delay the border reopening…

“A lot of people have shed tears today as a result of that decision.”“

——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-21/covid-live-blog-isolation-vaccination-case-numbers/100771122

Michael V said:

And it’s not helpful for other premiers to provide commentary on what other states are doing. Then said this about WA’s decision to delay the border reopening…

“A lot of people have shed tears today as a result of that decision.”“

mostly “let’s get everyone sick and profit from their chronic disease” people

friendlyjordies
605K subscribers
If Scott Morrison wins the next election, I will hold a funeral for freedom of speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blLTd0Smlqk

Michael V said:

“NSW Premier says it’s not helpful to comment on other states’ decisions. Immediately comments on other state’s decision.

Dominic Perrottet says NSW is following the federal plan, just like Victoria and Queensland. He said NSW is not ‘going its own way’, contrary to some commentary from outside.

And it’s not helpful for other premiers to provide commentary on what other states are doing. Then said this about WA’s decision to delay the border reopening…

“A lot of people have shed tears today as a result of that decision.”“

——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-21/covid-live-blog-isolation-vaccination-case-numbers/100771122

the News I was looking at had similar headlines like “McGowan slammed as One trick pony”. (then the article showed one tweet on the border reversal decision). then the headline under it was “Deadliest day: NSW reeling as it posts another grim record”. so… that one tweeter, or those few who are pissed can GAGF as far as Im concerned.

Arts said:

Michael V said:

“NSW Premier says it’s not helpful to comment on other states’ decisions. Immediately comments on other state’s decision.

Dominic Perrottet says NSW is following the federal plan, just like Victoria and Queensland. He said NSW is not ‘going its own way’, contrary to some commentary from outside.

And it’s not helpful for other premiers to provide commentary on what other states are doing. Then said this about WA’s decision to delay the border reopening…

“A lot of people have shed tears today as a result of that decision.”“

——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-21/covid-live-blog-isolation-vaccination-case-numbers/100771122

the News I was looking at had similar headlines like “McGowan slammed as One trick pony”. (then the article showed one tweet on the border reversal decision). then the headline under it was “Deadliest day: NSW reeling as it posts another grim record”. so… that one tweeter, or those few who are pissed can GAGF as far as Im concerned.

I wish tassie was still shut down. I do.

I’m off to the dentist soon. I almost cancelled because of covid out there. Ive been cancelling a lot of things but do need the dentist.

sarahs mum said:

Arts said:

Michael V said:

“NSW Premier says it’s not helpful to comment on other states’ decisions. Immediately comments on other state’s decision.

Dominic Perrottet says NSW is following the federal plan, just like Victoria and Queensland. He said NSW is not ‘going its own way’, contrary to some commentary from outside.

And it’s not helpful for other premiers to provide commentary on what other states are doing. Then said this about WA’s decision to delay the border reopening…

“A lot of people have shed tears today as a result of that decision.”“

— —
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-21/covid-live-blog-isolation-vaccination-case-numbers/100771122

the News I was looking at had similar headlines like “McGowan slammed as One trick pony”. (then the article showed one tweet on the border reversal decision). then the headline under it was “Deadliest day: NSW reeling as it posts another grim record”. so… that one tweeter, or those few who are pissed can GAGF as far as Im concerned.

I wish tassie was still shut down. I do.

I’m off to the dentist soon. I almost cancelled because of covid out there. Ive been cancelling a lot of things but do need the dentist.

Indeed, we find the contrasting tone in some of these articles somewhat disgusting.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-21/mark-mcgowan-wa-border-opening-backflip-poses-risk-analysis/100771704

“backflip”, “Promise lies in ruins”, “Plan replaced with uncertainty”

the fuck, how about completely consistent with plan and promise to keep people safe you dickheads

conferatur

“COVID-19 spread ‘slowing in the community’ as NSW records 46 deaths”, “exceeding expectations despite the pressure”, “state government would unveil his return-to-school plan, which was presented to national cabinet yesterday, in “coming days”.”

nice positive spin there, all fun and planned, intended, final, an excellent solution

Arts said:

Michael V said:

“NSW Premier says it’s not helpful to comment on other states’ decisions. Immediately comments on other state’s decision.

Dominic Perrottet says NSW is following the federal plan, just like Victoria and Queensland. He said NSW is not ‘going its own way’, contrary to some commentary from outside.

And it’s not helpful for other premiers to provide commentary on what other states are doing. Then said this about WA’s decision to delay the border reopening…

“A lot of people have shed tears today as a result of that decision.”“

——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-21/covid-live-blog-isolation-vaccination-case-numbers/100771122

the News I was looking at had similar headlines like “McGowan slammed as One trick pony”. (then the article showed one tweet on the border reversal decision). then the headline under it was “Deadliest day: NSW reeling as it posts another grim record”. so… that one tweeter, or those few who are pissed can GAGF as far as Im concerned.

McGow Un of PRWA is right. Praise Him!

Ian said:

Arts said:

Michael V said:

“NSW Premier says it’s not helpful to comment on other states’ decisions. Immediately comments on other state’s decision.

Dominic Perrottet says NSW is following the federal plan, just like Victoria and Queensland. He said NSW is not ‘going its own way’, contrary to some commentary from outside.

And it’s not helpful for other premiers to provide commentary on what other states are doing. Then said this about WA’s decision to delay the border reopening…

“A lot of people have shed tears today as a result of that decision.”“

— — —
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-21/covid-live-blog-isolation-vaccination-case-numbers/100771122

the News I was looking at had similar headlines like “McGowan slammed as One trick pony”. (then the article showed one tweet on the border reversal decision). then the headline under it was “Deadliest day: NSW reeling as it posts another grim record”. so… that one tweeter, or those few who are pissed can GAGF as far as Im concerned.

McGow Un of PRWA is right. Praise Him!

is it possible that for all the demonising of for example ASIANS in the media, they’re actually humans who care about each other’s wellbeing

Scott Morrison, national trauma trigger

JudgeMental said:

Scott Morrison, national trauma trigger

A lack of empathy, a lack of will, a lack of competence running alongside blind devotion to a cruel, fraught, dying and deadly economic creed is one hell of a noxious brew.  

—

Yep

Ridiculed even by his own side, Scott Morrison is Australia’s weakest PM

The great public policy mystery: just why is the Morrison government so inept?

George Christensen ramps up conspiracy theory and anti-vaxx commentary as signs suggest possible media brand launch

Exclusive: Controversial MP with large Facebook following has registered business name which appears to be a media brand

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/22/george-christensen-ramps-up-conspiracy-theory-and-anti-vaxx-commentary-as-signs-suggest-possible-media-brand-launch

dv said:

Still lots of time to throw children overboard. Although we could be at the point where we all point and say,‘you’re throwing children overboard again.’

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Still lots of time to throw children overboard. Although we could be at the point where we all point and say,‘you’re throwing children overboard again.’

Surely, surely, the only thing between Double A and the top job is something ridiculously out of character…

furious said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Still lots of time to throw children overboard. Although we could be at the point where we all point and say,‘you’re throwing children overboard again.’

Surely, surely, the only thing between Double A and the top job is something ridiculously out of character…

The election could be 17 weeks away.

dv said:

furious said:

sarahs mum said:

Still lots of time to throw children overboard. Although we could be at the point where we all point and say,‘you’re throwing children overboard again.’

Surely, surely, the only thing between Double A and the top job is something ridiculously out of character…

The election could be 17 weeks away.

Plenty of time to screw it up…

we mean sending unvaccinated students back to school at times of overwhelming preventable infectious severe multisystem disease transmission seems pretty close to throwing children overboard

SCIENCE said:

we mean sending unvaccinated students back to school at times of overwhelming preventable infectious severe multisystem disease transmission seems pretty close to throwing children overboard

and or under forklifts.

Robert Menzies told Harold Holt that ‘you can never under-estimate the intelligence of the Australian voter’.

You only have to look at the results of the last election for evidence of the truth of that.

And there’s one thing that’s certain about the ALP: if there’s a way that they can shoot themselves in the foot at exactly the wrong moment, they’ll find it and do it.

We can only await the shenanigans of the coming weeks.

Nauru offshore regime to cost Australian taxpayers nearly $220m over next six months

They must be living in luxury.

JudgeMental said:

Nauru offshore regime to cost Australian taxpayers nearly $220m over next six months

They must be living in luxury.

So how do tents cost that much?

JudgeMental said:

Nauru offshore regime to cost Australian taxpayers nearly $220m over next six months

They must be living in luxury.

Is there anybody there now Nades et al are in WA?

JudgeMental said:

Nauru offshore regime to cost Australian taxpayers nearly $220m over next six months

They must be living in luxury.

Do you think they could be trained to operate a forklift?

sarahs mum said:

JudgeMental said:

Nauru offshore regime to cost Australian taxpayers nearly $220m over next six months

They must be living in luxury.

Do you think they could be trained to operate a forklift?

Hehehe

They’d need a good hourly rate to cover the costs.

https://soundcloud.com/geraldinequinn/rats-on-mars-1

Morrison’s thesis is billed as a “micro approach” to the relationship between religion and society, using an examination of the Christian Brethren Assemblies of Sydney as the example. To this Morrison applies both “parametric (principal components analysis) and non-parametric (Spearman’s correlation and chi-square) statistical procedures”. So far so good in terms of applying a scientific approach to his chosen field of economic geography.

But at a certain point early in the thesis, Morrison’s scientific analysis veers into something much more akin to a marketing manifesto for a church struggling to retain its numbers. The scientific “micro-approach” suddenly takes on the shape of a consultant’s strategic advice.

Morrison, the keen-as-mustard young Christian student, has plenty of ideas about how the church can increase its influence in society and lift its “growth performance”.

The assemblies, he finds, are in a period of transition. They should not be “overconfident” of any gains they might make because they had actually “experienced a net loss to other denominations”.

Morrison’s demographic analysis showed that the brethren assemblies in Sydney had “failed to relate” to large sections of the metropolitan community, particularly “those employed in blue-collar occupations, the unemployed, those without tertiary qualifications and those born overseas”. Here, with numbers charting the demographic ebb and flow, was a political campaign strategist in the making.
What to do? Go for growth

Morrison’s view was that assemblies should “maintain the standard and emphasis placed upon Bible teaching” in their assemblies but that they “must realise” that this alone “will not bring about growth” — “visitation” and “counselling” were also important.

He warned that the impression of the church as “a white-collar institution” would only become further entrenched.
Decoding ScoMo: the hidden story and messages in his Pentecostal mashup
Read More >

Morrison’s primary prescription was to go for growth by engaging in more “bridge-building” activities into the community.

Morrison as the young evangelist commends the work of influential American Christian Jim Petersen, in particular his book Evangelism For Our Generation, which documented “a style of evangelism which is receiving an increasing amount of attention around the world today”.

(Petersen has had decades working with those he calls “the unchurched”, passing on the secrets of how to develop relationships with “the unreached”, model the Christian message and “present the Bible’s claims in a non-threatening manner”.)

Petersen’s approach included “church planting”, which was already being done in Sydney’s western suburbs and in the suburbs surrounding Brisbane by assembly “church planting” workers.

Critically, though, it also involved church members taking up an active role in the community in activities such as “P&C associations, neighbourhood watch, sporting clubs, local interest groups and other such community-based organisations and activities”.

“The idea of this approach is to restore the interpersonal component to evangelism. It has been described as ‘bringing the church to the people’ whereas past approaches have involved bringing people to the church. It attempts to personalise what has often been seen by the community as an abstract or irrelevant institution,” Morrison concluded.

This would lead to “church growth, particularly through conversion”.

In Morrison’s thesis are the seeds of the politician to come. Science, in the form of demographic data, is used to build a strategy to build support. Politics? Religion? Heck, what’s the difference when it comes to getting the numbers.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/05/04/inq-morrison-full-university-thesis/
==

If that is what he is to be measured against perhaps he has done a good job.

But as an atheist… blah.

sarahs mum said:

Morrison’s thesis is billed as a “micro approach” to the relationship between religion and society, using an examination of the Christian Brethren Assemblies of Sydney as the example. To this Morrison applies both “parametric (principal components analysis) and non-parametric (Spearman’s correlation and chi-square) statistical procedures”. So far so good in terms of applying a scientific approach to his chosen field of economic geography.

But at a certain point early in the thesis, Morrison’s scientific analysis veers into something much more akin to a marketing manifesto for a church struggling to retain its numbers. The scientific “micro-approach” suddenly takes on the shape of a consultant’s strategic advice.

Morrison, the keen-as-mustard young Christian student, has plenty of ideas about how the church can increase its influence in society and lift its “growth performance”.

The assemblies, he finds, are in a period of transition. They should not be “overconfident” of any gains they might make because they had actually “experienced a net loss to other denominations”.

Morrison’s demographic analysis showed that the brethren assemblies in Sydney had “failed to relate” to large sections of the metropolitan community, particularly “those employed in blue-collar occupations, the unemployed, those without tertiary qualifications and those born overseas”. Here, with numbers charting the demographic ebb and flow, was a political campaign strategist in the making.
What to do? Go for growth

Morrison’s view was that assemblies should “maintain the standard and emphasis placed upon Bible teaching” in their assemblies but that they “must realise” that this alone “will not bring about growth” — “visitation” and “counselling” were also important.

He warned that the impression of the church as “a white-collar institution” would only become further entrenched.
Decoding ScoMo: the hidden story and messages in his Pentecostal mashup
Read More >

Morrison’s primary prescription was to go for growth by engaging in more “bridge-building” activities into the community.

Morrison as the young evangelist commends the work of influential American Christian Jim Petersen, in particular his book Evangelism For Our Generation, which documented “a style of evangelism which is receiving an increasing amount of attention around the world today”.

(Petersen has had decades working with those he calls “the unchurched”, passing on the secrets of how to develop relationships with “the unreached”, model the Christian message and “present the Bible’s claims in a non-threatening manner”.)

Petersen’s approach included “church planting”, which was already being done in Sydney’s western suburbs and in the suburbs surrounding Brisbane by assembly “church planting” workers.

Critically, though, it also involved church members taking up an active role in the community in activities such as “P&C associations, neighbourhood watch, sporting clubs, local interest groups and other such community-based organisations and activities”.

“The idea of this approach is to restore the interpersonal component to evangelism. It has been described as ‘bringing the church to the people’ whereas past approaches have involved bringing people to the church. It attempts to personalise what has often been seen by the community as an abstract or irrelevant institution,” Morrison concluded.

This would lead to “church growth, particularly through conversion”.

In Morrison’s thesis are the seeds of the politician to come. Science, in the form of demographic data, is used to build a strategy to build support. Politics? Religion? Heck, what’s the difference when it comes to getting the numbers.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/05/04/inq-morrison-full-university-thesis/
==

If that is what he is to be measured against perhaps he has done a good job.

But as an atheist… blah.

“Morrison’s demographic analysis showed that the brethren assemblies in Sydney had “failed to relate” to large sections of the metropolitan community, particularly “those employed in blue-collar occupations, the unemployed, those without tertiary qualifications and those born overseas”.

… so he joins the Liberal party where he enthusiastically adopts the practice of demonising those employed in blue-collar occupations, the unemployed, those without tertiary qualifications and those born overseas (or at least those of them who came here by a non-approved route).

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

Morrison’s thesis is billed as a “micro approach” to the relationship between religion and society, using an examination of the Christian Brethren Assemblies of Sydney as the example. To this Morrison applies both “parametric (principal components analysis) and non-parametric (Spearman’s correlation and chi-square) statistical procedures”. So far so good in terms of applying a scientific approach to his chosen field of economic geography.

But at a certain point early in the thesis, Morrison’s scientific analysis veers into something much more akin to a marketing manifesto for a church struggling to retain its numbers. The scientific “micro-approach” suddenly takes on the shape of a consultant’s strategic advice.

Morrison, the keen-as-mustard young Christian student, has plenty of ideas about how the church can increase its influence in society and lift its “growth performance”.

The assemblies, he finds, are in a period of transition. They should not be “overconfident” of any gains they might make because they had actually “experienced a net loss to other denominations”.

Morrison’s demographic analysis showed that the brethren assemblies in Sydney had “failed to relate” to large sections of the metropolitan community, particularly “those employed in blue-collar occupations, the unemployed, those without tertiary qualifications and those born overseas”. Here, with numbers charting the demographic ebb and flow, was a political campaign strategist in the making.
What to do? Go for growth

Morrison’s view was that assemblies should “maintain the standard and emphasis placed upon Bible teaching” in their assemblies but that they “must realise” that this alone “will not bring about growth” — “visitation” and “counselling” were also important.

He warned that the impression of the church as “a white-collar institution” would only become further entrenched.
Decoding ScoMo: the hidden story and messages in his Pentecostal mashup
Read More >

Morrison’s primary prescription was to go for growth by engaging in more “bridge-building” activities into the community.

Morrison as the young evangelist commends the work of influential American Christian Jim Petersen, in particular his book Evangelism For Our Generation, which documented “a style of evangelism which is receiving an increasing amount of attention around the world today”.

(Petersen has had decades working with those he calls “the unchurched”, passing on the secrets of how to develop relationships with “the unreached”, model the Christian message and “present the Bible’s claims in a non-threatening manner”.)

Petersen’s approach included “church planting”, which was already being done in Sydney’s western suburbs and in the suburbs surrounding Brisbane by assembly “church planting” workers.

Critically, though, it also involved church members taking up an active role in the community in activities such as “P&C associations, neighbourhood watch, sporting clubs, local interest groups and other such community-based organisations and activities”.

“The idea of this approach is to restore the interpersonal component to evangelism. It has been described as ‘bringing the church to the people’ whereas past approaches have involved bringing people to the church. It attempts to personalise what has often been seen by the community as an abstract or irrelevant institution,” Morrison concluded.

This would lead to “church growth, particularly through conversion”.

In Morrison’s thesis are the seeds of the politician to come. Science, in the form of demographic data, is used to build a strategy to build support. Politics? Religion? Heck, what’s the difference when it comes to getting the numbers.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/05/04/inq-morrison-full-university-thesis/
==

If that is what he is to be measured against perhaps he has done a good job.

But as an atheist… blah.

“Morrison’s demographic analysis showed that the brethren assemblies in Sydney had “failed to relate” to large sections of the metropolitan community, particularly “those employed in blue-collar occupations, the unemployed, those without tertiary qualifications and those born overseas”.

… so he joins the Liberal party where he enthusiastically adopts the practice of demonising those employed in blue-collar occupations, the unemployed, those without tertiary qualifications and those born overseas (or at least those of them who came here by a non-approved route).

he has also been gutting the universities. (But there has been more going to private schools…they got jobkeeper.)

sarahs mum said:

Morrison’s thesis is billed as a “micro approach” to the relationship between religion and society, using an examination of the Christian Brethren Assemblies of Sydney as the example. To this Morrison applies both “parametric (principal components analysis) and non-parametric (Spearman’s correlation and chi-square) statistical procedures”. So far so good in terms of applying a scientific approach to his chosen field of economic geography.

But at a certain point early in the thesis, Morrison’s scientific analysis veers into something much more akin to a marketing manifesto for a church struggling to retain its numbers. The scientific “micro-approach” suddenly takes on the shape of a consultant’s strategic advice.

Morrison, the keen-as-mustard young Christian student, has plenty of ideas about how the church can increase its influence in society and lift its “growth performance”.

The assemblies, he finds, are in a period of transition. They should not be “overconfident” of any gains they might make because they had actually “experienced a net loss to other denominations”.

Morrison’s demographic analysis showed that the brethren assemblies in Sydney had “failed to relate” to large sections of the metropolitan community, particularly “those employed in blue-collar occupations, the unemployed, those without tertiary qualifications and those born overseas”. Here, with numbers charting the demographic ebb and flow, was a political campaign strategist in the making.
What to do? Go for growth

Morrison’s view was that assemblies should “maintain the standard and emphasis placed upon Bible teaching” in their assemblies but that they “must realise” that this alone “will not bring about growth” — “visitation” and “counselling” were also important.

He warned that the impression of the church as “a white-collar institution” would only become further entrenched.
Decoding ScoMo: the hidden story and messages in his Pentecostal mashup
Read More >

Morrison’s primary prescription was to go for growth by engaging in more “bridge-building” activities into the community.

Morrison as the young evangelist commends the work of influential American Christian Jim Petersen, in particular his book Evangelism For Our Generation, which documented “a style of evangelism which is receiving an increasing amount of attention around the world today”.

(Petersen has had decades working with those he calls “the unchurched”, passing on the secrets of how to develop relationships with “the unreached”, model the Christian message and “present the Bible’s claims in a non-threatening manner”.)

Petersen’s approach included “church planting”, which was already being done in Sydney’s western suburbs and in the suburbs surrounding Brisbane by assembly “church planting” workers.

Critically, though, it also involved church members taking up an active role in the community in activities such as “P&C associations, neighbourhood watch, sporting clubs, local interest groups and other such community-based organisations and activities”.

“The idea of this approach is to restore the interpersonal component to evangelism. It has been described as ‘bringing the church to the people’ whereas past approaches have involved bringing people to the church. It attempts to personalise what has often been seen by the community as an abstract or irrelevant institution,” Morrison concluded.

This would lead to “church growth, particularly through conversion”.

In Morrison’s thesis are the seeds of the politician to come. Science, in the form of demographic data, is used to build a strategy to build support. Politics? Religion? Heck, what’s the difference when it comes to getting the numbers.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/05/04/inq-morrison-full-university-thesis/
==

If that is what he is to be measured against perhaps he has done a good job.

But as an atheist… blah.

“growth” = sucking people into bullshit.

These people are a menace.

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

Morrison’s thesis is billed as a “micro approach” to the relationship between religion and society, using an examination of the Christian Brethren Assemblies of Sydney as the example. To this Morrison applies both “parametric (principal components analysis) and non-parametric (Spearman’s correlation and chi-square) statistical procedures”. So far so good in terms of applying a scientific approach to his chosen field of economic geography.

But at a certain point early in the thesis, Morrison’s scientific analysis veers into something much more akin to a marketing manifesto for a church struggling to retain its numbers. The scientific “micro-approach” suddenly takes on the shape of a consultant’s strategic advice.

Morrison, the keen-as-mustard young Christian student, has plenty of ideas about how the church can increase its influence in society and lift its “growth performance”.

The assemblies, he finds, are in a period of transition. They should not be “overconfident” of any gains they might make because they had actually “experienced a net loss to other denominations”.

Morrison’s demographic analysis showed that the brethren assemblies in Sydney had “failed to relate” to large sections of the metropolitan community, particularly “those employed in blue-collar occupations, the unemployed, those without tertiary qualifications and those born overseas”. Here, with numbers charting the demographic ebb and flow, was a political campaign strategist in the making.
What to do? Go for growth

Morrison’s view was that assemblies should “maintain the standard and emphasis placed upon Bible teaching” in their assemblies but that they “must realise” that this alone “will not bring about growth” — “visitation” and “counselling” were also important.

He warned that the impression of the church as “a white-collar institution” would only become further entrenched.
Decoding ScoMo: the hidden story and messages in his Pentecostal mashup
Read More >

Morrison’s primary prescription was to go for growth by engaging in more “bridge-building” activities into the community.

Morrison as the young evangelist commends the work of influential American Christian Jim Petersen, in particular his book Evangelism For Our Generation, which documented “a style of evangelism which is receiving an increasing amount of attention around the world today”.

(Petersen has had decades working with those he calls “the unchurched”, passing on the secrets of how to develop relationships with “the unreached”, model the Christian message and “present the Bible’s claims in a non-threatening manner”.)

Petersen’s approach included “church planting”, which was already being done in Sydney’s western suburbs and in the suburbs surrounding Brisbane by assembly “church planting” workers.

Critically, though, it also involved church members taking up an active role in the community in activities such as “P&C associations, neighbourhood watch, sporting clubs, local interest groups and other such community-based organisations and activities”.

“The idea of this approach is to restore the interpersonal component to evangelism. It has been described as ‘bringing the church to the people’ whereas past approaches have involved bringing people to the church. It attempts to personalise what has often been seen by the community as an abstract or irrelevant institution,” Morrison concluded.

This would lead to “church growth, particularly through conversion”.

In Morrison’s thesis are the seeds of the politician to come. Science, in the form of demographic data, is used to build a strategy to build support. Politics? Religion? Heck, what’s the difference when it comes to getting the numbers.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/05/04/inq-morrison-full-university-thesis/
==

If that is what he is to be measured against perhaps he has done a good job.

But as an atheist… blah.

“Morrison’s demographic analysis showed that the brethren assemblies in Sydney had “failed to relate” to large sections of the metropolitan community, particularly “those employed in blue-collar occupations, the unemployed, those without tertiary qualifications and those born overseas”.

… so he joins the Liberal party where he enthusiastically adopts the practice of demonising those employed in blue-collar occupations, the unemployed, those without tertiary qualifications and those born overseas (or at least those of them who came here by a non-approved route).

religion (christianity) and the ‘motivations’ of capitalism have a not insubstantial historical association

of the political and related ideological domain they’ve been deployed to inoculate against anything resembling socialism of government, which includes whatever egalitarian of government policy, could be healthcare for example, which requires taxes to fund such policies

large part of the core faith is to protect private wealth, opportunities that way, which is related protecting the power of private wealth, which not by accident protects the opportunities of wealth, earned wealth of course, deservedness is a strong feature of the faith, which has a secret dimension

the reality is democracy has evident socialist potentials, like for example how australia was developed by quite equatable provision of services across the country, done by government, and really they were monopolies of sorts, supply of telecommunications, power, water, sewage, roads, sale of grain overseas, whatever

all seems so parochial now, but i’m thinking over the next weeks and months it will be who that repairs all the roads around this area damaged by storms, and it will be government, local councils and whatever, so people can drive at near the speed limit in their vehicles made overseas, could be a Toyota or whatever

yeah trusty government maintaining the backbone of transportation surfaces

easy to take for granted, but a massive job, massive liability also that private enterprise wouldn’t go near, simply couldn’t accommodate

transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

Morrison’s thesis is billed as a “micro approach” to the relationship between religion and society, using an examination of the Christian Brethren Assemblies of Sydney as the example. To this Morrison applies both “parametric (principal components analysis) and non-parametric (Spearman’s correlation and chi-square) statistical procedures”. So far so good in terms of applying a scientific approach to his chosen field of economic geography.

But at a certain point early in the thesis, Morrison’s scientific analysis veers into something much more akin to a marketing manifesto for a church struggling to retain its numbers. The scientific “micro-approach” suddenly takes on the shape of a consultant’s strategic advice.

Morrison, the keen-as-mustard young Christian student, has plenty of ideas about how the church can increase its influence in society and lift its “growth performance”.

The assemblies, he finds, are in a period of transition. They should not be “overconfident” of any gains they might make because they had actually “experienced a net loss to other denominations”.

Morrison’s demographic analysis showed that the brethren assemblies in Sydney had “failed to relate” to large sections of the metropolitan community, particularly “those employed in blue-collar occupations, the unemployed, those without tertiary qualifications and those born overseas”. Here, with numbers charting the demographic ebb and flow, was a political campaign strategist in the making.
What to do? Go for growth

Morrison’s view was that assemblies should “maintain the standard and emphasis placed upon Bible teaching” in their assemblies but that they “must realise” that this alone “will not bring about growth” — “visitation” and “counselling” were also important.

He warned that the impression of the church as “a white-collar institution” would only become further entrenched.
Decoding ScoMo: the hidden story and messages in his Pentecostal mashup
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Morrison’s primary prescription was to go for growth by engaging in more “bridge-building” activities into the community.

Morrison as the young evangelist commends the work of influential American Christian Jim Petersen, in particular his book Evangelism For Our Generation, which documented “a style of evangelism which is receiving an increasing amount of attention around the world today”.

(Petersen has had decades working with those he calls “the unchurched”, passing on the secrets of how to develop relationships with “the unreached”, model the Christian message and “present the Bible’s claims in a non-threatening manner”.)

Petersen’s approach included “church planting”, which was already being done in Sydney’s western suburbs and in the suburbs surrounding Brisbane by assembly “church planting” workers.

Critically, though, it also involved church members taking up an active role in the community in activities such as “P&C associations, neighbourhood watch, sporting clubs, local interest groups and other such community-based organisations and activities”.

“The idea of this approach is to restore the interpersonal component to evangelism. It has been described as ‘bringing the church to the people’ whereas past approaches have involved bringing people to the church. It attempts to personalise what has often been seen by the community as an abstract or irrelevant institution,” Morrison concluded.

This would lead to “church growth, particularly through conversion”.

In Morrison’s thesis are the seeds of the politician to come. Science, in the form of demographic data, is used to build a strategy to build support. Politics? Religion? Heck, what’s the difference when it comes to getting the numbers.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/05/04/inq-morrison-full-university-thesis/
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If that is what he is to be measured against perhaps he has done a good job.

But as an atheist… blah.

“Morrison’s demographic analysis showed that the brethren assemblies in Sydney had “failed to relate” to large sections of the metropolitan community, particularly “those employed in blue-collar occupations, the unemployed, those without tertiary qualifications and those born overseas”.

… so he joins the Liberal party where he enthusiastically adopts the practice of demonising those employed in blue-collar occupations, the unemployed, those without tertiary qualifications and those born overseas (or at least those of them who came here by a non-approved route).

religion (christianity) and the ‘motivations’ of capitalism have a not insubstantial historical association

of the political and related ideological domain they’ve been deployed to inoculate against anything resembling socialism of government, which includes whatever egalitarian of government policy, could be healthcare for example, which requires taxes to fund such policies

large part of the core faith is to protect private wealth, opportunities that way, which is related protecting the power of private wealth, which not by accident protects the opportunities of wealth, earned wealth of course, deservedness is a strong feature of the faith, which has a secret dimension

the reality is democracy has evident socialist potentials, like for example how australia was developed by quite equatable provision of services across the country, done by government, and really they were monopolies of sorts, supply of telecommunications, power, water, sewage, roads, sale of grain overseas, whatever

all seems so parochial now, but i’m thinking over the next weeks and months it will be who that repairs all the roads around this area damaged by storms, and it will be government, local councils and whatever, so people can drive at near the speed limit in their vehicles made overseas, could be a Toyota or whatever

yeah trusty government maintaining the backbone of transportation surfaces

easy to take for granted, but a massive job, massive liability also that private enterprise wouldn’t go near, simply couldn’t accommodate

…equitable provision of services.. ought have been writ, not equatable

time to balance some of the news with the good

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-24/aboriginal-flag-copyright-transferred-to-commonwealth/100778324

The iconic flag that has become a symbol of Aboriginal Australia is now freely available for public use, after its designer agreed to transfer copyright to the Commonwealth following long negotiations.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-24/biloela-tamil-family-court-win-procedural-unfairness-alex-hawke/100777272

The Federal Circuit Court found the federal government’s decision to prevent three members of the family from applying for further bridging visas was “procedurally unfair”.

and the WTF, as in

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-24/prime-minister-scott-morrison-wechat-account-hijacked/100776898

Senior Coalition MPs have accused China’s government of foreign interference after the Prime Minister’s account on the ubiquitous Chinese language messaging app WeChat was hijacked.

As first reported by News Corp Australia, Scott Morrison’s WeChat account was renamed and the account description changed.

Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese’s WeChat account remains active.

“What the Chinese government has done by shutting down the Prime Minister’s account is effectively foreign interference in our democracy in an election year,” Mr Paterson told Nine Radio. Federal government frontbencher Stuart Robert said the government was working with WeChat to try to resolve the issue.

funny that it’s just the trash Marketing agent that copped it, funny that it’s first reported by News Corp, makes one wonder

odd how it happens in an election period, what next, fingers pointed, oh look Labor are working with CHINA to get the Corruption rekt

The iconic flag that has become a symbol of Aboriginal Australia is now freely available for public use, after its designer agreed to transfer copyright to the Commonwealth following long negotiations.
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I was thinking about a new flag this week. Steal the black background from the NZedders and whack a metallic gold Federation star on it.

SCIENCE said:

time to balance some of the news with the good

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-24/aboriginal-flag-copyright-transferred-to-commonwealth/100778324

The iconic flag that has become a symbol of Aboriginal Australia is now freely available for public use, after its designer agreed to transfer copyright to the Commonwealth following long negotiations.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-24/biloela-tamil-family-court-win-procedural-unfairness-alex-hawke/100777272

The Federal Circuit Court found the federal government’s decision to prevent three members of the family from applying for further bridging visas was “procedurally unfair”.

and the WTF, as in

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-24/prime-minister-scott-morrison-wechat-account-hijacked/100776898

Senior Coalition MPs have accused China’s government of foreign interference after the Prime Minister’s account on the ubiquitous Chinese language messaging app WeChat was hijacked.

As first reported by News Corp Australia, Scott Morrison’s WeChat account was renamed and the account description changed.

Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese’s WeChat account remains active.

“What the Chinese government has done by shutting down the Prime Minister’s account is effectively foreign interference in our democracy in an election year,” Mr Paterson told Nine Radio. Federal government frontbencher Stuart Robert said the government was working with WeChat to try to resolve the issue.

funny that it’s just the trash Marketing agent that copped it, funny that it’s first reported by News Corp, makes one wonder

odd how it happens in an election period, what next, fingers pointed, oh look Labor are working with CHINA to get the Corruption rekt

seems a bit strange IMO the PM would have an account with, given the red flags raised going back a way, almost inviting something would be my view, but then australia does negotiations re military hardware like big submarine deals via text messages, well when dissolving contracts anyway in favor of imaginary submarines

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-24/prime-minister-scott-morrison-wechat-account-hijacked/100776898

Senior Coalition MPs have accused China’s government of foreign interference after the Prime Minister’s account on the ubiquitous Chinese language messaging app WeChat was hijacked.

As first reported by News Corp Australia, Scott Morrison’s WeChat account was renamed and the account description changed.

Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese’s WeChat account remains active.

“What the Chinese government has done by shutting down the Prime Minister’s account is effectively foreign interference in our democracy in an election year,” Mr Paterson told Nine Radio. Federal government frontbencher Stuart Robert said the government was working with WeChat to try to resolve the issue.

funny that it’s just the trash Marketing agent that copped it, funny that it’s first reported by News Corp, makes one wonder

odd how it happens in an election period, what next, fingers pointed, oh look Labor are working with CHINA to get the Corruption rekt

seems a bit strange IMO the PM would have an account with, given the red flags raised going back a way, almost inviting something would be my view, but then australia does negotiations re military hardware like big submarine deals via text messages, well when dissolving contracts anyway in favor of imaginary submarines

not so strange for Marketing to have an account on a populous platform as a Marketing tool

and then when its messaging is fucked anyway, why not pretend it’s been hacked, “leak” the news, and then call for big boy cots so the opposition who are still active look like the shills

Angus did lies like that to try to eat some Clover

why not Marketing try it on Anonymous then

sarahs mum said:

The iconic flag that has become a symbol of Aboriginal Australia is now freely available for public use, after its designer agreed to transfer copyright to the Commonwealth following long negotiations.
—-

I was thinking about a new flag this week. Steal the black background from the NZedders and whack a metallic gold Federation star on it.

Or midnight blue and gold.

Chinese businessman reveals why he bought Scott Morrison’s WeChat account

Barnaby Joyce apologises for claiming ‘people aren’t dying’ of Covid in Australia

JudgeMental said:

Chinese businessman reveals why he bought Scott Morrison’s WeChat account

’The Chinese businessman who has taken over Scott Morrison’s WeChat account says he bought it because he wanted a platform with lots of followers and insists the transaction had nothing to do with politics.’

Ah, the Luigi Vercotti response: I’m “running a successful info agency — high class, no really, high class info — we don’t have any of that ‘politics’ — that’s right out”.

The new account is named “Australian-Chinese New Life” and promises to provide tips to new arrivals from China.

Like, keep yer yap shut, and don’t go getting any ideas about ‘being free of the CCP’. We know where you and your rellies in China live.

A former Young Liberal, Alex Dore, nephew of the Australian’s editor in chief, Chris Dore, is set to be springboarded into the federal seat of Hughes under a complex factional deal to avoid contentious NSW Liberal preselections.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/24/fury-at-backroom-deal-to-usher-former-young-liberal-into-federal-seat-of-hughes

JudgeMental said:

She wants him.

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

She wants him.

No she doesn’t. Grace’s facial expression says it all.

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

She wants him.

…to spontaneously combust.

sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

She wants him.

…to spontaneously combust.

LOL

Looks like she is trying very hard to start that process.

JudgeMental said:

That woman has been studying my sister. My sister can kill with her facial expressions. If she looks at you with “Drop dead, idiot” in her mind…it is very hard to miss.

https://twitter.com/pablovinales/status/1485775871902646274

a nice video of the meeting.

JudgeMental said:

https://twitter.com/pablovinales/status/1485775871902646274

a nice video of the meeting.

I don’t think there is a lot of love there.

sarahs mum said:

JudgeMental said:

https://twitter.com/pablovinales/status/1485775871902646274

a nice video of the meeting.

I don’t think there is a lot of love there.

Good to see that video – I reserved comment on her demeanour based on the photos as all too often they are selected to show what the organisation wants people to see. But that video tells no lies – She’s going to get home then scrub her right hand for an hour to get the stench of Morrison off her.

Spiny Norman said:

sarahs mum said:

JudgeMental said:

https://twitter.com/pablovinales/status/1485775871902646274

a nice video of the meeting.

I don’t think there is a lot of love there.

Good to see that video – I reserved comment on her demeanour based on the photos as all too often they are selected to show what the organisation wants people to see. But that video tells no lies – She’s going to get home then scrub her right hand for an hour to get the stench of Morrison off her.

And all her dislike was directed at one person only.

buffy said:

Spiny Norman said:

sarahs mum said:

I don’t think there is a lot of love there.

Good to see that video – I reserved comment on her demeanour based on the photos as all too often they are selected to show what the organisation wants people to see. But that video tells no lies – She’s going to get home then scrub her right hand for an hour to get the stench of Morrison off her.

And all her dislike was directed at one person only.

she’d be hopeless at poker.

buffy said:

Spiny Norman said:

sarahs mum said:

I don’t think there is a lot of love there.

Good to see that video – I reserved comment on her demeanour based on the photos as all too often they are selected to show what the organisation wants people to see. But that video tells no lies – She’s going to get home then scrub her right hand for an hour to get the stench of Morrison off her.

And all her dislike was directed at one person only.

I got the feeling she wasn’t into Jenny either.

JudgeMental said:

buffy said:

Spiny Norman said:

Good to see that video – I reserved comment on her demeanour based on the photos as all too often they are selected to show what the organisation wants people to see. But that video tells no lies – She’s going to get home then scrub her right hand for an hour to get the stench of Morrison off her.

And all her dislike was directed at one person only.

she’d be hopeless at poker.

true.

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Spiny Norman said:

Good to see that video – I reserved comment on her demeanour based on the photos as all too often they are selected to show what the organisation wants people to see. But that video tells no lies – She’s going to get home then scrub her right hand for an hour to get the stench of Morrison off her.

And all her dislike was directed at one person only.

I got the feeling she wasn’t into Jenny either.

But she managed a smile for her.

Who is the woman in red? She looks a little familiar, but I can’t place her.

btm said:

Who is the woman in red? She looks a little familiar, but I can’t place her.

Last year’s Australian of the Year, Grace Tame.

Bubblecar said:

btm said:

Who is the woman in red? She looks a little familiar, but I can’t place her.

Last year’s Australian of the Year, Grace Tame.

…and good on her:

Grace Tame’s 12 months as Australian of the Year results in spike in sexual assault support referrals

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-24/grace-tame-legacy-as-australian-of-the-year/100774096

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

btm said:

Who is the woman in red? She looks a little familiar, but I can’t place her.

Last year’s Australian of the Year, Grace Tame.

…and good on her:

Grace Tame’s 12 months as Australian of the Year results in spike in sexual assault support referrals

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-24/grace-tame-legacy-as-australian-of-the-year/100774096

Surely she should be maligned for this increase, in the same vein as the decrease in COVID-19 is good news when testing is reduced.

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Last year’s Australian of the Year, Grace Tame.

…and good on her:

Grace Tame’s 12 months as Australian of the Year results in spike in sexual assault support referrals

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-24/grace-tame-legacy-as-australian-of-the-year/100774096

Surely she should be maligned for this increase, in the same vein as the decrease in COVID-19 is good news when testing is reduced.

Bettina Arndt would probably think so.

Bubblecar said:

btm said:

Who is the woman in red? She looks a little familiar, but I can’t place her.

Last year’s Australian of the Year, Grace Tame.

Thank you. From what I’ve read she’s done some very good work, despite (or perhaps because of) the hardships she’s had to face.

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Spiny Norman said:

Good to see that video – I reserved comment on her demeanour based on the photos as all too often they are selected to show what the organisation wants people to see. But that video tells no lies – She’s going to get home then scrub her right hand for an hour to get the stench of Morrison off her.

And all her dislike was directed at one person only.

I got the feeling she wasn’t into Jenny either.

It’s said that ‘behind every great man is a great woman’.

Let’s consider the question of what’s behind a hopeless, incompetent, lying dunderhead.

good news ¡ interest rates will rise to healthy levels soon

The Australian Bureau of Statistics consumer price index (CPI) jumped 1.3 per cent over the last three months of 2021 to be 3.5 per cent higher over the year. A 4.2 per cent jump in the cost of new dwellings and 6.6 per cent surge in fuel prices were the main contributors to the bigger-than-expected increase.

SCIENCE said:

good news ¡ interest rates will rise to healthy levels soon

The Australian Bureau of Statistics consumer price index (CPI) jumped 1.3 per cent over the last three months of 2021 to be 3.5 per cent higher over the year. A 4.2 per cent jump in the cost of new dwellings and 6.6 per cent surge in fuel prices were the main contributors to the bigger-than-expected increase.

If house prices are included in the index, how come the index has been so flat in recent years, and where can I buy this fuel with only a 6.6% surge?

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

good news ¡ interest rates will rise to healthy levels soon

The Australian Bureau of Statistics consumer price index (CPI) jumped 1.3 per cent over the last three months of 2021 to be 3.5 per cent higher over the year. A 4.2 per cent jump in the cost of new dwellings and 6.6 per cent surge in fuel prices were the main contributors to the bigger-than-expected increase.

If house prices are included in the index, how come the index has been so flat in recent years, and where can I buy this fuel with only a 6.6% surge?

sorry we were just quoting the government mouthpiece known as the ABC, their propaganda agents might be able to help you more

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

And all her dislike was directed at one person only.

I got the feeling she wasn’t into Jenny either.

It’s said that ‘behind every great man is a great woman’.

Let’s consider the question of what’s behind a hopeless, incompetent, lying dunderhead.

LOLOLOL

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

And all her dislike was directed at one person only.

I got the feeling she wasn’t into Jenny either.

It’s said that ‘behind every great man is a great woman’.

Let’s consider the question of what’s behind a hopeless, incompetent, lying dunderhead.

She assisted in the survey stage of his thesis.

Sam Clench
SamClench Oh look, more TamePunk photos. These were taken as Scott Morrison spoke at the 2022 Australian of the Year Finalists Morning Tea

I do like Grace’s choice of jacket for the day. And it is hi vis too.

sarahs mum said:

I do like Grace’s choice of jacket for the day. And it is hi vis too.

It suits her.

So the list of positive things that the federal government has done grows by one. Still in the single digits though I believe.

Spiny Norman said:

So the list of positive things that the federal government has done grows by one. Still in the single digits though I believe.

Pity it wasn’t a sporting club in a swing seat or perhaps a new coal coral we mean protection racket, or them First Nations fellas might have got a bit more for that.

can’t hold psychopaths in power to account but can force premiers to violate their own border policies what the fuck

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-25/mark-mcgowan-forced-to-attend-clive-palmer-defamation-case/100781596

so do you like this turd more or less than novax djocovid

SCIENCE said:

can’t hold psychopaths in power to account but can force premiers to violate their own border policies what the fuck

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-25/mark-mcgowan-forced-to-attend-clive-palmer-defamation-case/100781596

so do you like this turd more or less than novax djocovid

Everybody hates Clive.

SCIENCE said:

can’t hold psychopaths in power to account but can force premiers to violate their own border policies what the fuck

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-25/mark-mcgowan-forced-to-attend-clive-palmer-defamation-case/100781596

so do you like this turd more or less than novax djocovid

Clive Palmer is an enemy of this state.

SCIENCE said:

can’t hold psychopaths in power to account but can force premiers to violate their own border policies what the fuck

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-25/mark-mcgowan-forced-to-attend-clive-palmer-defamation-case/100781596

so do you like this turd more or less than novax djocovid

If only there were some way of conducting hearings over the electric internet

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

can’t hold psychopaths in power to account but can force premiers to violate their own border policies what the fuck

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-25/mark-mcgowan-forced-to-attend-clive-palmer-defamation-case/100781596

so do you like this turd more or less than novax djocovid

If only there were some way of conducting hearings over the electric internet

That would mean being sensible. Too much to hope for in these troubled times.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

can’t hold psychopaths in power to account but can force premiers to violate their own border policies what the fuck

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-25/mark-mcgowan-forced-to-attend-clive-palmer-defamation-case/100781596

so do you like this turd more or less than novax djocovid

If only there were some way of conducting hearings over the electric internet

There is no good reason for the case to happen in Sydney.

SCIENCE said:

can’t hold psychopaths in power to account but can force premiers to violate their own border policies what the fuck

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-25/mark-mcgowan-forced-to-attend-clive-palmer-defamation-case/100781596

so do you like this turd more or less than novax djocovid

The border restrictions don’t apply to politicians…

Grace Tame Doesn’t Owe You A Smile
https://www.marieclaire.com.au/grace-tame-smile-scott-morrison

sarahs mum said:

Grace Tame Doesn’t Owe You A Smile
https://www.marieclaire.com.au/grace-tame-smile-scott-morrison

>She doesn’t owe you a smile. If anything, Scott Morrison might want to try wiping off his.

Aye.

On Facebook, Senator James McGrath posted a picture taken by The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age photographer Alex Ellinghausen and criticised Ms Tame.

“The important issues raised by last year’s Australian of the Year must continue to be addressed by all of us. It is a pity her behaviour and attacks on our Prime Minister are so partisan, political and childish. If she didn’t like being Australian of the Year she should hand back the honour,” Senator McGrath wrote.

But former Liberal MP Julia Banks backed Ms Tame as she tweeted a photo of her with Mr Morrison.

“Grace is the only person in this photo who lives her life with honesty, integrity & empathy Grace’s courage – to speak truth to power & to call out abuse of power has earned her the enduring respect & trust of a nation,” Ms Banks tweeted.

https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/federal/liberal-senator-criticises-grace-tame-for-her-frosty-reception-with-pm-20220125-p59r2j.html

sarahs mum said:

On Facebook, Senator James McGrath posted a picture taken by The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age photographer Alex Ellinghausen and criticised Ms Tame.

“The important issues raised by last year’s Australian of the Year must continue to be addressed by all of us. It is a pity her behaviour and attacks on our Prime Minister are so partisan, political and childish. If she didn’t like being Australian of the Year she should hand back the honour,” Senator McGrath wrote.

But former Liberal MP Julia Banks backed Ms Tame as she tweeted a photo of her with Mr Morrison.

“Grace is the only person in this photo who lives her life with honesty, integrity & empathy Grace’s courage – to speak truth to power & to call out abuse of power has earned her the enduring respect & trust of a nation,” Ms Banks tweeted.

https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/federal/liberal-senator-criticises-grace-tame-for-her-frosty-reception-with-pm-20220125-p59r2j.html

Methinks Senator McGrath is the infantile one here.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

On Facebook, Senator James McGrath posted a picture taken by The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age photographer Alex Ellinghausen and criticised Ms Tame.

“The important issues raised by last year’s Australian of the Year must continue to be addressed by all of us. It is a pity her behaviour and attacks on our Prime Minister are so partisan, political and childish. If she didn’t like being Australian of the Year she should hand back the honour,” Senator McGrath wrote.

But former Liberal MP Julia Banks backed Ms Tame as she tweeted a photo of her with Mr Morrison.

“Grace is the only person in this photo who lives her life with honesty, integrity & empathy Grace’s courage – to speak truth to power & to call out abuse of power has earned her the enduring respect & trust of a nation,” Ms Banks tweeted.

https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/federal/liberal-senator-criticises-grace-tame-for-her-frosty-reception-with-pm-20220125-p59r2j.html

Methinks Senator McGrath is the infantile one here.

but he’s quite correct, it’s poor form to fill one’s timeline with partisan, political and childish attacks

buffy said:

Spiny Norman said:

sarahs mum said:

I don’t think there is a lot of love there.

Good to see that video – I reserved comment on her demeanour based on the photos as all too often they are selected to show what the organisation wants people to see. But that video tells no lies – She’s going to get home then scrub her right hand for an hour to get the stench of Morrison off her.

And all her dislike was directed at one person only.

and he didn’t notice or at least pretended not to.

sarahs mum said:

Grace Tame Doesn’t Owe You A Smile
https://www.marieclaire.com.au/grace-tame-smile-scott-morrison

However, for some people, Tame refusing to play to the feminine mainstays of smiling and making nice was simply too much. In comments sections, national broadsheets and even in the posts of our elected officials, she’s been called childish, disrespectful, and ungracious.

Childish? For what? Refusing to provide a PR-friendly photo opportunity for a Prime Minister who has—in my opinion—failed repeatedly to lead when it comes to women’s safety? Attending an event where she was a guest of honour?

JudgeMental said:

sarahs mum said:

Grace Tame Doesn’t Owe You A Smile
https://www.marieclaire.com.au/grace-tame-smile-scott-morrison

However, for some people, Tame refusing to play to the feminine mainstays of smiling and making nice was simply too much. In comments sections, national broadsheets and even in the posts of our elected officials, she’s been called childish, disrespectful, and ungracious.

Childish? For what? Refusing to provide a PR-friendly photo opportunity for a Prime Minister who has—in my opinion—failed repeatedly to lead when it comes to women’s safety? Attending an event where she was a guest of honour?

Katharine Murphy said of McGrath:

Hmm, yes. It is tempting at this juncture to observe that men can be so emotional. If you are an admirer of Tame, McGrath’s critique sounds very much like a tantrum.

The Liberal senator’s rebuke was the sound of a door slamming as an irate teenager returned to his room.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/25/young-women-like-grace-tame-werent-socialised-to-shut-up-when-authority-figures-speak-and-it-feels-like-progress

Scott Morrison’s government has cranked up Australia Day funding tenfold in two years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UagEQgpkcx0

The National Australia Day Council (NADC) is a non-profit social enterprise owned by the Australian Government and is the national coordinating body for the Australian of the Year awards and Australia Day. It was established in 1979 and incorporated as a government-owned business in 1990.

Australian Natives’ Association was one of the chief promoters of Australia Day as a national holiday, and in 1946 formed an Australia Day Celebrations Committee in Melbourne to formalise its efforts. Similar bodies emerged in other states, and a Federal Australia Day Council (FADC) was formed to coordinate their efforts. In 1979, with the FADC’s agreement, the organisation was replaced by a government-sponsored National Australia Day Committee. The committee was initially headed by former Olympian Herb Elliott. In 1985, it was renamed the National Australia Day Council, with former tennis player John Newcombe as president. The organisation became an incorporated public company in 1990.

—

Abbreviation NADC
Predecessor National Australia Day Committee
Formation 25 October 1990 (incorporated)
Type Social enterprise
Headquarters Old Parliament House, Canberra
Location

Canberra, Australian Capital Territory

Region Australia
Services

Australian of the Year awards Australia Day celebrations

Owner Australian Government
Chair Danielle Roche
CEO Karlie Brand
Parent organisation Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet
Affiliations Australia Day National Network
Budget (2020) A$16.84 million
Revenue (2020) A$2.18 million
Expenses A$16.71 million
Staff (2020) 12

wiki

sarahs mum said:

The National Australia Day Council (NADC) is a non-profit social enterprise owned by the Australian Government and is the national coordinating body for the Australian of the Year awards and Australia Day. It was established in 1979 and incorporated as a government-owned business in 1990.

Australian Natives’ Association was one of the chief promoters of Australia Day as a national holiday, and in 1946 formed an Australia Day Celebrations Committee in Melbourne to formalise its efforts. Similar bodies emerged in other states, and a Federal Australia Day Council (FADC) was formed to coordinate their efforts. In 1979, with the FADC’s agreement, the organisation was replaced by a government-sponsored National Australia Day Committee. The committee was initially headed by former Olympian Herb Elliott. In 1985, it was renamed the National Australia Day Council, with former tennis player John Newcombe as president. The organisation became an incorporated public company in 1990.

—

Abbreviation NADC
Predecessor National Australia Day Committee
Formation 25 October 1990 (incorporated)
Type Social enterprise
Headquarters Old Parliament House, Canberra
Location

Canberra, Australian Capital Territory

Region Australia
Services

Australian of the Year awards Australia Day celebrations

Owner Australian Government
Chair Danielle Roche
CEO Karlie Brand
Parent organisation Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet
Affiliations Australia Day National Network
Budget (2020) A$16.84 million
Revenue (2020) A$2.18 million
Expenses A$16.71 million
Staff (2020) 12

wiki

Meh. I think of it as NSW Day.

party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

The National Australia Day Council (NADC) is a non-profit social enterprise owned by the Australian Government and is the national coordinating body for the Australian of the Year awards and Australia Day. It was established in 1979 and incorporated as a government-owned business in 1990.

Australian Natives’ Association was one of the chief promoters of Australia Day as a national holiday, and in 1946 formed an Australia Day Celebrations Committee in Melbourne to formalise its efforts. Similar bodies emerged in other states, and a Federal Australia Day Council (FADC) was formed to coordinate their efforts. In 1979, with the FADC’s agreement, the organisation was replaced by a government-sponsored National Australia Day Committee. The committee was initially headed by former Olympian Herb Elliott. In 1985, it was renamed the National Australia Day Council, with former tennis player John Newcombe as president. The organisation became an incorporated public company in 1990.

—

Abbreviation NADC
Predecessor National Australia Day Committee
Formation 25 October 1990 (incorporated)
Type Social enterprise
Headquarters Old Parliament House, Canberra
Location

Canberra, Australian Capital Territory

Region Australia
Services

Australian of the Year awards Australia Day celebrations

Owner Australian Government
Chair Danielle Roche
CEO Karlie Brand
Parent organisation Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet
Affiliations Australia Day National Network
Budget (2020) A$16.84 million
Revenue (2020) A$2.18 million
Expenses A$16.71 million
Staff (2020) 12

wiki

Meh. I think of it as NSW Day.

I call it a post colonial mine field.

sarahs mum said:

Scott Morrison’s government has cranked up Australia Day funding tenfold in two years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UagEQgpkcx0

They are not only the best fiscal government, they are also the most patriotic?

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

Scott Morrison’s government has cranked up Australia Day funding tenfold in two years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UagEQgpkcx0

They are not only the best fiscal government, they are also the most patriotic?

I think they may be selling nationalism not patriotism.

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

Scott Morrison’s government has cranked up Australia Day funding tenfold in two years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UagEQgpkcx0

They are not only the best fiscal government, they are also the most patriotic?

I think they may be selling nationalism not patriotism.

Yes but what you and I can see, is usually seen from behind the rose coloured glasses the gov’t wants the voters to wear.

sarahs mum said:

party_pants said:

Meh. I think of it as NSW Day.

I call it a post colonial mine field.

That too.

We already have a similar public holiday day in Western Australia, which marks the founding of the Swan River Colony: flags were raised, a tree was chopped down, and some guy in a fancy hat read aloud a proclamation. Similar sort of event to what happened in Botany Bay 41 years earlier.

Since WA was an independent colony from NSW right up until the start of Federation, it makes no sense for us to celebrate a NSW specific date as our “national” day.

party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

party_pants said:

Meh. I think of it as NSW Day.

I call it a post colonial mine field.

That too.

We already have a similar public holiday day in Western Australia, which marks the founding of the Swan River Colony: flags were raised, a tree was chopped down, and some guy in a fancy hat read aloud a proclamation. Similar sort of event to what happened in Botany Bay 41 years earlier.

Since WA was an independent colony from NSW right up until the start of Federation, it makes no sense for us to celebrate a NSW specific date as our “national” day.

Fair point.

party_pants said:

Since WA was an independent colony from NSW right up until the start of Federation, it makes no sense for us to celebrate a NSW specific date as our “national” day.

You could say that of all Australian states. Perhaps it would hold true if the population of WA came directly from the UK but I expect most new WAliens came from places east.

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Since WA was an independent colony from NSW right up until the start of Federation, it makes no sense for us to celebrate a NSW specific date as our “national” day.

You could say that of all Australian states. Perhaps it would hold true if the population of WA came directly from the UK but I expect most new WAliens came from places east.

Not sure about in the very early days, but there was a convict “trade” into Fremantle. My father’s lot came on a convict ship to Fremantle in the 1860s. The bloke was a guard on the ship, later at the gaol. Apparently you got free passage for your family if you worked your passage.

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Since WA was an independent colony from NSW right up until the start of Federation, it makes no sense for us to celebrate a NSW specific date as our “national” day.

You could say that of all Australian states. Perhaps it would hold true if the population of WA came directly from the UK but I expect most new WAliens came from places east.

That only happened during the gold rush era. WA was late with the gold rush stuff, didn’t really take of until the 1890s, by which time the Federation debate was well under way already. In the mid 1880s the WA population was less than 50,000. By 1900 is had swelled to nearly 200,000. Many of those were gold miners, it is assumed that their presence is what tipped the WA Federation referendum outcome to “join”.

But then we don’t know how many came from NSW specifically, there could have plenty more from Vic or QLD etc,

party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Since WA was an independent colony from NSW right up until the start of Federation, it makes no sense for us to celebrate a NSW specific date as our “national” day.

You could say that of all Australian states. Perhaps it would hold true if the population of WA came directly from the UK but I expect most new WAliens came from places east.

But then we don’t know how many came from NSW specifically, there could have plenty more from Vic or QLD etc,

But Victoria and QLD would have been again seeded by older states with longstanding connections to NSW. Also before independence under the British crown, the young colonies would have looked to Sydney and NSW from the very beginning.

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You could say that of all Australian states. Perhaps it would hold true if the population of WA came directly from the UK but I expect most new WAliens came from places east.

But then we don’t know how many came from NSW specifically, there could have plenty more from Vic or QLD etc,

But Victoria and QLD would have been again seeded by older states with longstanding connections to NSW. Also before independence under the British crown, the young colonies would have looked to Sydney and NSW from the very beginning.

seeing that NSW was just about all of eastern australia in the early days…

sarahs mum said:

Scott Morrison’s government has cranked up Australia Day funding tenfold in two years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UagEQgpkcx0

At the beginning of this West says with Australia Day coming it is time for the culture wars. And that is becoming the window to view Australia day.

It goes on to discuss ‘a front page splash’ in The Australian, ‘Truth is we were lucky it was the British.’ because hey…we aren’t French. Feedback suggests this is gaslighting.

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You could say that of all Australian states. Perhaps it would hold true if the population of WA came directly from the UK but I expect most new WAliens came from places east.

But then we don’t know how many came from NSW specifically, there could have plenty more from Vic or QLD etc,

But Victoria and QLD would have been again seeded by older states with longstanding connections to NSW. Also before independence under the British crown, the young colonies would have looked to Sydney and NSW from the very beginning.

Not really. Melbourne was declared an illegal settlement by the governor of NSW. Many of the founders of Melbourne came from Tassie.

Since it was formalised, a large proportion of new settlers would have been direct from GB, especially so during and after the gold rush.

The case for an independent trajectory for each colony is stronger than the case for a NSW-led settlement of the whole country, with a little bit of overlap.

party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

But then we don’t know how many came from NSW specifically, there could have plenty more from Vic or QLD etc,

But Victoria and QLD would have been again seeded by older states with longstanding connections to NSW. Also before independence under the British crown, the young colonies would have looked to Sydney and NSW from the very beginning.

Not really. Melbourne was declared an illegal settlement by the governor of NSW. Many of the founders of Melbourne came from Tassie.

Since it was formalised, a large proportion of new settlers would have been direct from GB, especially so during and after the gold rush.

The case for an independent trajectory for each colony is stronger than the case for a NSW-led settlement of the whole country, with a little bit of overlap.

I still reckon looking upon January 26 as a Sydney thing is problematic. I certainly don’t know what day Victoria was declared a separate colony.

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

But Victoria and QLD would have been again seeded by older states with longstanding connections to NSW. Also before independence under the British crown, the young colonies would have looked to Sydney and NSW from the very beginning.

Not really. Melbourne was declared an illegal settlement by the governor of NSW. Many of the founders of Melbourne came from Tassie.

Since it was formalised, a large proportion of new settlers would have been direct from GB, especially so during and after the gold rush.

The case for an independent trajectory for each colony is stronger than the case for a NSW-led settlement of the whole country, with a little bit of overlap.

I still reckon looking upon January 26 as a Sydney thing is problematic. I certainly don’t know what day Victoria was declared a separate colony.

Perhaps that’s because Victoria doesn’t have a settlement day to vie for attention.

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

But Victoria and QLD would have been again seeded by older states with longstanding connections to NSW. Also before independence under the British crown, the young colonies would have looked to Sydney and NSW from the very beginning.

Not really. Melbourne was declared an illegal settlement by the governor of NSW. Many of the founders of Melbourne came from Tassie.

Since it was formalised, a large proportion of new settlers would have been direct from GB, especially so during and after the gold rush.

The case for an independent trajectory for each colony is stronger than the case for a NSW-led settlement of the whole country, with a little bit of overlap.

I still reckon looking upon January 26 as a Sydney thing is problematic. I certainly don’t know what day Victoria was declared a separate colony.

+1

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

But Victoria and QLD would have been again seeded by older states with longstanding connections to NSW. Also before independence under the British crown, the young colonies would have looked to Sydney and NSW from the very beginning.

Not really. Melbourne was declared an illegal settlement by the governor of NSW. Many of the founders of Melbourne came from Tassie.

Since it was formalised, a large proportion of new settlers would have been direct from GB, especially so during and after the gold rush.

The case for an independent trajectory for each colony is stronger than the case for a NSW-led settlement of the whole country, with a little bit of overlap.

I still reckon looking upon January 26 as a Sydney thing is problematic. I certainly don’t know what day Victoria was declared a separate colony.

1st July 1851.

JudgeMental said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Not really. Melbourne was declared an illegal settlement by the governor of NSW. Many of the founders of Melbourne came from Tassie.

Since it was formalised, a large proportion of new settlers would have been direct from GB, especially so during and after the gold rush.

The case for an independent trajectory for each colony is stronger than the case for a NSW-led settlement of the whole country, with a little bit of overlap.

I still reckon looking upon January 26 as a Sydney thing is problematic. I certainly don’t know what day Victoria was declared a separate colony.

1st July 1851.

the map i posted goes through all the dates.

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

But Victoria and QLD would have been again seeded by older states with longstanding connections to NSW. Also before independence under the British crown, the young colonies would have looked to Sydney and NSW from the very beginning.

Not really. Melbourne was declared an illegal settlement by the governor of NSW. Many of the founders of Melbourne came from Tassie.

Since it was formalised, a large proportion of new settlers would have been direct from GB, especially so during and after the gold rush.

The case for an independent trajectory for each colony is stronger than the case for a NSW-led settlement of the whole country, with a little bit of overlap.

I still reckon looking upon January 26 as a Sydney thing is problematic. I certainly don’t know what day Victoria was declared a separate colony.

It is not really problematic for me, more a sober assessment of facts. I don’t feel so closely connected to NSW as you might assume.

JudgeMental said:

Nice one. Thanks.

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

Nice one. Thanks.

No worries.

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

Nice one. Thanks.

+1

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

Nice one. Thanks.

+1

It is actually quite cool.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

Nice one. Thanks.

+1

It is actually quite cool.

you do end up wondering why they don’t just fkn teach it like that at school

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

+1

It is actually quite cool.

you do end up wondering why they don’t just fkn teach it like that at school

because they never ask me to teach kids, well not after that science experiment.

As a white Australian, here’s what Australia Day means to me, fuck all

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

+1

It is actually quite cool.

you do end up wondering why they don’t just fkn teach it like that at school

I do. Yes.

JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

It is actually quite cool.

you do end up wondering why they don’t just fkn teach it like that at school

because they never ask me to teach kids, well not after that science experiment.

LOL

Nice to see Gina R finally getting some reward after all her sacrifice

dv said:

Nice to see Gina R finally getting some reward after all her sacrifice

surely you’re joking Mr Voss?

JudgeMental said:

As a white Australian, here’s what Australia Day means to me, fuck all

There is that.

sarahs mum said:

JudgeMental said:

As a white Australian, here’s what Australia Day means to me, fuck all

There is that.

It used to be a day off to listen to the hottest 100 but the 100 became mostly crap many years ago and then they stopped doing it on that day anyway…

JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

It is actually quite cool.

you do end up wondering why they don’t just fkn teach it like that at school

because they never ask me to teach kids, well not after that science experiment.

I think I was there for that

Arts said:

JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

you do end up wondering why they don’t just fkn teach it like that at school

because they never ask me to teach kids, well not after that science experiment.

I think I was there for that

Luckily no one was injured.

JudgeMental said:

As a white Australian, here’s what Australia Day means to me, fuck all

bullshit dates largely to sprinkle through the calendar, part of temporal controls all are initiated into and make normal, just as named days of the week are, division into weekend and work days, part of the calendar-centric world, governs behavior

nicely referenced to the rotation of the earth and obit around the sun, put some nature into ideology, there is though a roundish thing rotating and orbiting, yeah it is true, but be sure outside of human thought (if it’s really thought) there is no australia day, no christmas, no weekends, no week days, no bullshit

Arts said:

JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

you do end up wondering why they don’t just fkn teach it like that at school

because they never ask me to teach kids, well not after that science experiment.

I think I was there for that

You were safety officer?

furious said:

sarahs mum said:

JudgeMental said:

As a white Australian, here’s what Australia Day means to me, fuck all

There is that.

It used to be a day off to listen to the hottest 100 but the 100 became mostly crap many years ago and then they stopped doing it on that day anyway…

There is that.

buffy said:

Arts said:

JudgeMental said:

because they never ask me to teach kids, well not after that science experiment.

I think I was there for that

You were safety officer?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha chief instigator.

JudgeMental said:

buffy said:

Arts said:

I think I was there for that

You were safety officer?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha chief instigator.

Same thing isn’t it?

transition said:

JudgeMental said:

As a white Australian, here’s what Australia Day means to me, fuck all

bullshit dates largely to sprinkle through the calendar, part of temporal controls all are initiated into and make normal, just as named days of the week are, division into weekend and work days, part of the calendar-centric world, governs behavior

nicely referenced to the rotation of the earth and obit around the sun, put some nature into ideology, there is though a roundish thing rotating and orbiting, yeah it is true, but be sure outside of human thought (if it’s really thought) there is no australia day, no christmas, no weekends, no week days, no bullshit

just the cyclic calendar has enough bullshit about, like everything gets reset each year

transition said:

transition said:

JudgeMental said:

As a white Australian, here’s what Australia Day means to me, fuck all

bullshit dates largely to sprinkle through the calendar, part of temporal controls all are initiated into and make normal, just as named days of the week are, division into weekend and work days, part of the calendar-centric world, governs behavior

nicely referenced to the rotation of the earth and obit around the sun, put some nature into ideology, there is though a roundish thing rotating and orbiting, yeah it is true, but be sure outside of human thought (if it’s really thought) there is no australia day, no christmas, no weekends, no week days, no bullshit

just the cyclic calendar has enough bullshit about, like everything gets reset each year

take your partners for the culture war dance off?

JudgeMental said:

buffy said:

Arts said:

I think I was there for that

You were safety officer?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha chief instigator.

I mean…

About 6 weeks out from the South Australian election and there’s been no polling at all since July.

does anyone have a crikey account?

https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/01/28/grace-tame-shell-be-right-mate-morrison-wrong/

Environment Minister Sussan Ley would not say whether the comments from her parliamentary colleagues were out of line, but added people were free to speak their mind.

“Grace Tame is a force of nature and being a leader for many women across Australia,” she told ABC TV.

“The prime minister has done more for the issues of women than any other prime minister I have ever worked for, and in any other government.”

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/scott-morrison-did-not-raise-any-issues-after-frosty-exchange-with-grace-tame/351eaa0e-a2be-4e32-9a7b-fdb3bf0a85cc

sarahs mum said:

Environment Minister Sussan Ley would not say whether the comments from her parliamentary colleagues were out of line, but added people were free to speak their mind.

“Grace Tame is a force of nature and being a leader for many women across Australia,” she told ABC TV.

“The prime minister has done more for the issues of women than any other prime minister I have ever worked for, and in any other government.”

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/scott-morrison-did-not-raise-any-issues-after-frosty-exchange-with-grace-tame/351eaa0e-a2be-4e32-9a7b-fdb3bf0a85cc

“The prime minister has done more for the issues of women than any other prime minister I have ever worked for, and in any other government.”

Pretty damning if true

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

Environment Minister Sussan Ley would not say whether the comments from her parliamentary colleagues were out of line, but added people were free to speak their mind.

“Grace Tame is a force of nature and being a leader for many women across Australia,” she told ABC TV.

“The prime minister has done more for the issues of women than any other prime minister I have ever worked for, and in any other government.”

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/scott-morrison-did-not-raise-any-issues-after-frosty-exchange-with-grace-tame/351eaa0e-a2be-4e32-9a7b-fdb3bf0a85cc

“The prime minister has done more for the issues of women than any other prime minister I have ever worked for, and in any other government.”

Pretty damning if true

I actually wondered how many Prime Ministers she has “ever worked for”. And I don’t think this Prime Minister was the one who stopped the thing where women had to retire from work in the public service when they married. Fortunately that was quite a few years ago now.