#novaxnovac Come on you lot. let’s get this trending.

chants

What don’t we want….
No vax Novac
When do we want it…..
NOW…..

What don’t we want….
No vax Novac
When do we want it…..
NOW….

BBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Don’t spread Covid in Oz suburbia!
Back on the plane and back to Serbia!

The Shovel:

‘ Independent panels conclude that Novak Djokovic is incredibly fucking rich

A rigorous process involving two separate independent panels has determined that tennis player Novak Djokovic has shit-tonnes more money and influence than the average Australian.

A spokesperson for one of the panels – the Independent Medical Exemption Review Panel – said they had methodically reviewed the Serbian star’s application and found that he was a globally recognised sportsperson who attracted millions of dollars in television rights and sponsorship for the Australian Open.

“He may not be vaccinated, but we are confident that he has a very high immunity to the rules that apply to ordinary people,” the spokesperson said. ‘

captain_spalding said:

The Shovel:

‘ Independent panels conclude that Novak Djokovic is incredibly fucking rich

A rigorous process involving two separate independent panels has determined that tennis player Novak Djokovic has shit-tonnes more money and influence than the average Australian.

A spokesperson for one of the panels – the Independent Medical Exemption Review Panel – said they had methodically reviewed the Serbian star’s application and found that he was a globally recognised sportsperson who attracted millions of dollars in television rights and sponsorship for the Australian Open.

“He may not be vaccinated, but we are confident that he has a very high immunity to the rules that apply to ordinary people,” the spokesperson said. ‘

LOL

https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/information-overseas-travellers

I can’t believe that they haven’t as yet updated this site for exemption for entitled pricks.

why is this even a thing?

I mean he’s obviously a mental case and has little concern for his own health, or the health of those closest to him, but really, WGAF?

diddly-squat said:

why is this even a thing?

I mean he’s obviously a mental case and has little concern for his own health, or the health of those closest to him, but really, WGAF?

SIBEEN THAT“S WHO!!!

diddly-squat said:

why is this even a thing?

I mean he’s obviously a mental case and has little concern for his own health, or the health of those closest to him, but really, WGAF?

I suspect it is far different for people in Melbourne. A few months ago junior sprog celebrated her 18th birthday with mom, dad and sister. Not a friend allowed to visit, not allowed out. We’ve had 6 lockdowns, a fucking curfew and this cockwomble marches in with an exemption? People who are fully vaccinated are still required to quarantine when arriving in Victoria from overseas, but not this bloke. It’s disgusting.

sibeen said:

diddly-squat said:

why is this even a thing?

I mean he’s obviously a mental case and has little concern for his own health, or the health of those closest to him, but really, WGAF?

I suspect it is far different for people in Melbourne. A few months ago junior sprog celebrated her 18th birthday with mom, dad and sister. Not a friend allowed to visit, not allowed out. We’ve had 6 lockdowns, a fucking curfew and this cockwomble marches in with an exemption? People who are fully vaccinated are still required to quarantine when arriving in Victoria from overseas, but not this bloke. It’s disgusting.

I understand Melbourne did it really tough, and I am really sorry for you all.. at the time it was necessary because vaxx rates were too low to ensure the hospitals wouldn’t get overrun.. but it’s different now..

diddly-squat said:

sibeen said:

diddly-squat said:

why is this even a thing?

I mean he’s obviously a mental case and has little concern for his own health, or the health of those closest to him, but really, WGAF?

I suspect it is far different for people in Melbourne. A few months ago junior sprog celebrated her 18th birthday with mom, dad and sister. Not a friend allowed to visit, not allowed out. We’ve had 6 lockdowns, a fucking curfew and this cockwomble marches in with an exemption? People who are fully vaccinated are still required to quarantine when arriving in Victoria from overseas, but not this bloke. It’s disgusting.

I understand Melbourne did it really tough, and I am really sorry for you all.. at the time it was necessary because vaxx rates were too low to ensure the hospitals wouldn’t get overrun.. but it’s different now..

Yet all international travellers have to quarantine…oh…wait

Politically it is one of the dumbest decisions I have seen for many a day. And Danny boy is on holidays – rofl.

sibeen said:

diddly-squat said:

sibeen said:

I suspect it is far different for people in Melbourne. A few months ago junior sprog celebrated her 18th birthday with mom, dad and sister. Not a friend allowed to visit, not allowed out. We’ve had 6 lockdowns, a fucking curfew and this cockwomble marches in with an exemption? People who are fully vaccinated are still required to quarantine when arriving in Victoria from overseas, but not this bloke. It’s disgusting.

I understand Melbourne did it really tough, and I am really sorry for you all.. at the time it was necessary because vaxx rates were too low to ensure the hospitals wouldn’t get overrun.. but it’s different now..

Yet all international travellers have to quarantine…oh…wait

Politically it is one of the dumbest decisions I have seen for many a day. And Danny boy is on holidays – rofl.

surely he’ll have to quarantine, but that’s a fed decision

sibeen said:

https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/information-overseas-travellers

I can’t believe that they haven’t as yet updated this site for exemption for entitled pricks.

LOL

diddly-squat said:

sibeen said:

diddly-squat said:

I understand Melbourne did it really tough, and I am really sorry for you all.. at the time it was necessary because vaxx rates were too low to ensure the hospitals wouldn’t get overrun.. but it’s different now..

Yet all international travellers have to quarantine…oh…wait

Politically it is one of the dumbest decisions I have seen for many a day. And Danny boy is on holidays – rofl.

surely he’ll have to quarantine, but that’s a fed decision

Nah, he has an exemption for that.

sibeen said:

diddly-squat said:

sibeen said:

Yet all international travellers have to quarantine…oh…wait

Politically it is one of the dumbest decisions I have seen for many a day. And Danny boy is on holidays – rofl.

surely he’ll have to quarantine, but that’s a fed decision

Nah, he has an exemption for that.

that’s confirmed.. serial?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-05/no-special-treatment-federal-government-says-djokovic-exemption/100740178

Acting Australian Border Force Commissioner examining ‘issue’ relating to Novak Djokovic’s Australian Travel Declaration

The news came as federal Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews released a statement saying that while the Victorian government and Tennis Australia might permit a non-vaccinated player to compete in the Australian Open, the federal government would enforce requirements at the Australian border.

Scott Morrison says Djokovic’s medical certificate will need to stack up or he will be “on the next plane home”

oh look here wonder what a political opportunist might do in these circumstances, who gets to play the tough guy now

disclaimer: just a piece of urban art we saw and we make no representation as to whether we endorse the message

dafuq andor ltfol

https://www.theage.com.au/national/visa-bungle-delays-novak-djokovic-s-entry-into-australia-20220105-p59m75.html

The Victorian government claimed that it rejected a late-night request to sponsor the world No. 1’s visa hours before he landed in Melbourne about 11.30pm. The 20-time grand slam winner, who was granted an exemption to play in this month’s Australian Open, was being quizzed by Australian Border Force officials in a room at Melbourne’s Tullamarine Airport until at least 1.15am.

The Victorian government’s stance on Djokovic’s visa reflects the anger towards Djokovic among Victorian ministers and senior officials. It also highlights their sensitivity to being seen to assist Djokovic’s bid to play at the Open despite his outspoken vaccine scepticism and non-disclosure of the reason for his exemption. Border Force officials have the discretion to allow Djokovic into the country despite the Victorian government move.

Acting Sports Minister Jaala Pulford sent a late-night tweet confirming that the Victorian government would not be supporting Djokovic’s visa application. “The federal government has asked if we will support Novak Djokovic’s visa application to enter Australia. We will not be providing Novak Djokovic with individual visa application support to participate in the 2022 Australian Open Grand Slam,” the tweet said. Ms Pulford went on to say: “We’ve always been clear on two points: visa approvals are a matter for the federal government, and medical exemptions are a matter for doctors.”

Tennis Australia confirmed on Wednesday that most of the exemption applications made by players or officials came from individuals who had been infected with coronavirus in the past six months. Three high-level sources briefed on Djokovic’s situation, who spoke anonymously because the matter was confidential, said they believed it was highly probable that the exemption was granted for that reason.

SCIENCE said:

dafuq andor ltfol

https://www.theage.com.au/national/visa-bungle-delays-novak-djokovic-s-entry-into-australia-20220105-p59m75.html

The Victorian government claimed that it rejected a late-night request to sponsor the world No. 1’s visa hours before he landed in Melbourne about 11.30pm. The 20-time grand slam winner, who was granted an exemption to play in this month’s Australian Open, was being quizzed by Australian Border Force officials in a room at Melbourne’s Tullamarine Airport until at least 1.15am.

The Victorian government’s stance on Djokovic’s visa reflects the anger towards Djokovic among Victorian ministers and senior officials. It also highlights their sensitivity to being seen to assist Djokovic’s bid to play at the Open despite his outspoken vaccine scepticism and non-disclosure of the reason for his exemption. Border Force officials have the discretion to allow Djokovic into the country despite the Victorian government move.

Acting Sports Minister Jaala Pulford sent a late-night tweet confirming that the Victorian government would not be supporting Djokovic’s visa application. “The federal government has asked if we will support Novak Djokovic’s visa application to enter Australia. We will not be providing Novak Djokovic with individual visa application support to participate in the 2022 Australian Open Grand Slam,” the tweet said. Ms Pulford went on to say: “We’ve always been clear on two points: visa approvals are a matter for the federal government, and medical exemptions are a matter for doctors.”

Tennis Australia confirmed on Wednesday that most of the exemption applications made by players or officials came from individuals who had been infected with coronavirus in the past six months. Three high-level sources briefed on Djokovic’s situation, who spoke anonymously because the matter was confidential, said they believed it was highly probable that the exemption was granted for that reason.

JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

dafuq andor ltfol

https://www.theage.com.au/national/visa-bungle-delays-novak-djokovic-s-entry-into-australia-20220105-p59m75.html

The Victorian government claimed that it rejected a late-night request to sponsor the world No. 1’s visa hours before he landed in Melbourne about 11.30pm. The 20-time grand slam winner, who was granted an exemption to play in this month’s Australian Open, was being quizzed by Australian Border Force officials in a room at Melbourne’s Tullamarine Airport until at least 1.15am.

The Victorian government’s stance on Djokovic’s visa reflects the anger towards Djokovic among Victorian ministers and senior officials. It also highlights their sensitivity to being seen to assist Djokovic’s bid to play at the Open despite his outspoken vaccine scepticism and non-disclosure of the reason for his exemption. Border Force officials have the discretion to allow Djokovic into the country despite the Victorian government move.

Acting Sports Minister Jaala Pulford sent a late-night tweet confirming that the Victorian government would not be supporting Djokovic’s visa application. “The federal government has asked if we will support Novak Djokovic’s visa application to enter Australia. We will not be providing Novak Djokovic with individual visa application support to participate in the 2022 Australian Open Grand Slam,” the tweet said. Ms Pulford went on to say: “We’ve always been clear on two points: visa approvals are a matter for the federal government, and medical exemptions are a matter for doctors.”

Tennis Australia confirmed on Wednesday that most of the exemption applications made by players or officials came from individuals who had been infected with coronavirus in the past six months. Three high-level sources briefed on Djokovic’s situation, who spoke anonymously because the matter was confidential, said they believed it was highly probable that the exemption was granted for that reason.

It’s unclear to me exactly what has happened here…

The ABC seems to be reporting that the feds canceled his visa. What would the Vic govt have to do with it??

diddly-squat said:

It’s unclear to me exactly what has happened here…

The ABC seems to be reporting that the feds canceled his visa. What would the Vic govt have to do with it??

His visa has been cancelled by the Border Force Australia. This is the Feds, yes.

Apparently his handlers applied for the wrong visa and therefore could not satisfy the federal requirements of disclosure.

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

It’s unclear to me exactly what has happened here…

The ABC seems to be reporting that the feds canceled his visa. What would the Vic govt have to do with it??

His visa has been cancelled by the Border Force Australia. This is the Feds, yes.

Apparently his handlers applied for the wrong visa and therefore could not satisfy the federal requirements of disclosure.

No doubt he will attempt to appeal the decision. More to come.

diddly-squat said:

It’s unclear to me exactly what has happened here…

The ABC seems to be reporting that the feds canceled his visa. What would the Vic govt have to do with it??

He applied for the wrong visa if I understand correctly.

He has a medical exemption to play at the Australian Open. (Likely this is because he has had COVID in the last 6 months.) That has nothing to do with entry to Australia.

Michael V said:

diddly-squat said:

It’s unclear to me exactly what has happened here…

The ABC seems to be reporting that the feds canceled his visa. What would the Vic govt have to do with it??

He applied for the wrong visa if I understand correctly.

He has a medical exemption to play at the Australian Open. (Likely this is because he has had COVID in the last 6 months.) That has nothing to do with entry to Australia.

Yair. That’s about it.

Djokovic’s Australian Open hopes dashed after visa cancelled at airport

good look for scomo plus he can deny any involvement if people accuse him of trying to use this for election propaganda.

JudgeMental said:

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Seems as though it might just be an admin stuffup by Novak’s people but I’ll wait to see what sibeen says

dv said:

Can he play in a bubble?

dv said:

Ha!

If only…

:)

dv said:

Seems as though it might just be an admin stuffup by Novak’s people but I’ll wait to see what sibeen says

I have no doubt that sibeen is advising his mate Dan how to best handle this stuff-up as we speak.

remember when Dear Leader Morrison told us borders were for Labor losers

Mr Djokovic’s visa has been cancelled. Rules are rules, especially when it comes to our borders. No one is above these rules. Our strong border policies have been critical to Australia having one of the lowest death rates in the world from COVID, we are continuing to be vigilant.

did someone say political opportunist

like

what
the
fuck

dv said:

Just reviewing that satirical work from the Shovel.
The concept is good as is the use of ‘Wild Card’ however I have some issues with Manus Island.
Manus Island is not a country, they would have been better of using Nauru without losing the thrust of the satirical work. Credibility is an important component of satire.
I’ve given it an 8 for concept and a 4 for detail.
So overall a 6 on the PWM scale.

dv said:

Seems as though it might just be an admin stuffup by Novak’s people but I’ll wait to see what sibeen says

sibeen will probably say:

FUCK OFF

Imagine if tennis is deemed unwoke by the people who decree these things.
Statues of tennis players could be dragged from parks, decapitated and thrown in rivers.
People could have their careers ruined because it was revealed on social media that they once owned a tennis racket even if it was only for personal use.
People banned from twitter for using the derogatory term ‘tennis player’ against an antagonist.
It’s pretty scary.

Peak Warming Man said:

Imagine if tennis is deemed unwoke by the people who decree these things.
Statues of tennis players could be dragged from parks, decapitated and thrown in rivers.
People could have their careers ruined because it was revealed on social media that they once owned a tennis racket even if it was only for personal use.
People banned from twitter for using the derogatory term ‘tennis player’ against an antagonist.
It’s pretty scary.

Oh dear. I have owned a few tennis rackets.

Topple up my statue.

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Imagine if tennis is deemed unwoke by the people who decree these things.
Statues of tennis players could be dragged from parks, decapitated and thrown in rivers.
People could have their careers ruined because it was revealed on social media that they once owned a tennis racket even if it was only for personal use.
People banned from twitter for using the derogatory term ‘tennis player’ against an antagonist.
It’s pretty scary.

Oh dear. I have owned a few tennis rackets.

Topple up my statue.

I only have an old wooden racket which is recyclable & thus acceptable to the “woke”

Peak Warming Man said:

Imagine if tennis is deemed unwoke by the people who decree these things.
Statues of tennis players could be dragged from parks, decapitated and thrown in rivers.
People could have their careers ruined because it was revealed on social media that they once owned a tennis racket even if it was only for personal use.
People banned from twitter for using the derogatory term ‘tennis player’ against an antagonist.
It’s pretty scary.

Well, it happened to “coal miner”.

And “white”.

mollwollfumble said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Imagine if tennis is deemed unwoke by the people who decree these things.
Statues of tennis players could be dragged from parks, decapitated and thrown in rivers.
People could have their careers ruined because it was revealed on social media that they once owned a tennis racket even if it was only for personal use.
People banned from twitter for using the derogatory term ‘tennis player’ against an antagonist.
It’s pretty scary.

Well, it happened to “coal miner”.

And “white”.

idiot.

Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Imagine if tennis is deemed unwoke by the people who decree these things.
Statues of tennis players could be dragged from parks, decapitated and thrown in rivers.
People could have their careers ruined because it was revealed on social media that they once owned a tennis racket even if it was only for personal use.
People banned from twitter for using the derogatory term ‘tennis player’ against an antagonist.
It’s pretty scary.

Oh dear. I have owned a few tennis rackets.

Topple up my statue.

I only have an old wooden racket which is recyclable & thus acceptable to the “woke”

‘Royal tennis’ players are, presumably, above such proletarian concerns.

captain_spalding said:

Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Oh dear. I have owned a few tennis rackets.

Topple up my statue.

I only have an old wooden racket which is recyclable & thus acceptable to the “woke”

‘Royal tennis’ players are, presumably, above such proletarian concerns.

Of course we are.

Bubblecar said:

Don’t spread Covid in Oz suburbia!
Back on the plane and back to Serbia!

Anyway it looks like they’re taking my advice.

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Don’t spread Covid in Oz suburbia!
Back on the plane and back to Serbia!

Anyway it looks like they’re taking my advice.

The Manus Island Open was not to his liking?

“On Instagram, Serbia’s President Aleksandar Vučić vowed to “fight” for Djokovic to be able to enter Australia, and said he would use all diplomatic avenues available to Serbia to help the player.”

President Aleksandar Vučić added “It’s outrageous I’m absolutely appalled. The Minister should resign and the Ambassador must be recalled”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/serbian-president-will-fight-for-novak-djokovic/100740932

Woodie said:

“On Instagram, Serbia’s President Aleksandar Vučić vowed to “fight” for Djokovic to be able to enter Australia, and said he would use all diplomatic avenues available to Serbia to help the player.”

President Aleksandar Vučić added “It’s outrageous I’m absolutely appalled. The Minister should resign and the Ambassador must be recalled”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/serbian-president-will-fight-for-novak-djokovic/100740932

Bloody Serbs. The assassination that started World War I. The attack by Serbian extremists on the heirs to the Austrian throne on June 28, 1914 sparked what was called the “July Crisis”.

Has anyone done a Community Care check on Tracy Holmes?

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Don’t spread Covid in Oz suburbia!
Back on the plane and back to Serbia!

Anyway it looks like they’re taking my advice.

:)

Woodie said:

“On Instagram, Serbia’s President Aleksandar Vučić vowed to “fight” for Djokovic to be able to enter Australia, and said he would use all diplomatic avenues available to Serbia to help the player.”

President Aleksandar Vučić added “It’s outrageous I’m absolutely appalled. The Minister should resign and the Ambassador must be recalled”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/serbian-president-will-fight-for-novak-djokovic/100740932

giggle

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Don’t spread Covid in Oz suburbia!
Back on the plane and back to Serbia!

Anyway it looks like they’re taking my advice.

Meanwhile

Among the lowest in Europe

dv said:

Has anyone done a Community Care check on Tracy Holmes?

Hehehe

It’s always been the case that recovering from Covid provides better protection than vaccine.

mollwollfumble said:

It’s always been the case that recovering from Covid provides better protection than vaccine.

Being dead provides 100% protection.

mollwollfumble said:

It’s always been the case that recovering from Covid provides better protection than vaccine.

I don’t believe that is what the general findings say. The Israeli study was limited.

mollwollfumble said:

It’s always been the case that recovering from Covid provides better protection than vaccine.

The research the opposite to be the case. SCIENCE posted a link to results that showed the vaccines provide tougher protection than getting through a bout of Covid.

The research the opposite = shows

Bubblecar said:

mollwollfumble said:

It’s always been the case that recovering from Covid provides better protection than vaccine.

The research the opposite to be the case. SCIENCE posted a link to results that showed the vaccines provide tougher protection than getting through a bout of Covid.

Plus you are much less likely to die or get long Covid

dv said:

Has anyone done a Community Care check on Tracy Holmes?

Umm……………what’s Tracey done?

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Has anyone done a Community Care check on Tracy Holmes?

Umm……………what’s Tracey done?

Wrote a gushing article about Djokovic yesterday. World’s greatest player, a paradigm of virtue, a saintly presence in Serbia, etc etc. All whilst managing to completely ignore the fact that he’s an anti-vaxxer moron.

Bubblecar said:

mollwollfumble said:

It’s always been the case that recovering from Covid provides better protection than vaccine.

The research the opposite to be the case. SCIENCE posted a link to results that showed the vaccines provide tougher protection than getting through a bout of Covid.

It might depend on which research you choose.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210830/Does-SARS-CoV-2-natural-infection-immunity-better-protect-against-the-Delta-variant-than-vaccination.aspx

Woodie said:

“On Instagram, Serbia’s President Aleksandar Vučić vowed to “fight” for Djokovic to be able to enter Australia, and said he would use all diplomatic avenues available to Serbia to help the player.”

President Aleksandar Vučić added “It’s outrageous I’m absolutely appalled. The Minister should resign and the Ambassador must be recalled”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/serbian-president-will-fight-for-novak-djokovic/100740932

Of course, you know, this means war.

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Has anyone done a Community Care check on Tracy Holmes?

Umm……………what’s Tracey done?

Wrote a gushing article about Djokovic yesterday. World’s greatest player, a paradigm of virtue, a saintly presence in Serbia, etc etc. All whilst managing to completely ignore the fact that he’s an anti-vaxxer moron.

Ah ha.

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Has anyone done a Community Care check on Tracy Holmes?

Umm……………what’s Tracey done?

Wrote a gushing article about Djokovic yesterday. World’s greatest player, a paradigm of virtue, a saintly presence in Serbia, etc etc. All whilst managing to completely ignore the fact that he’s an anti-vaxxer moron.

Actually, she wrote the legal facts out. She undeniably thinks he’s a good player. But she set out the details of things at that point in time.

captain_spalding said:

Woodie said:

“On Instagram, Serbia’s President Aleksandar Vučić vowed to “fight” for Djokovic to be able to enter Australia, and said he would use all diplomatic avenues available to Serbia to help the player.”

President Aleksandar Vučić added “It’s outrageous I’m absolutely appalled. The Minister should resign and the Ambassador must be recalled”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/serbian-president-will-fight-for-novak-djokovic/100740932

Of course, you know, this means war.

Using the theme song This Is War by 30 Seconds To Mars

Peak Warming Man said:

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Umm……………what’s Tracey done?

Wrote a gushing article about Djokovic yesterday. World’s greatest player, a paradigm of virtue, a saintly presence in Serbia, etc etc. All whilst managing to completely ignore the fact that he’s an anti-vaxxer moron.

Ah ha.

Here you go PWM:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-05/novak-djokovic-tracey-holmes-analysis/100739078

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

sibeen said:

Wrote a gushing article about Djokovic yesterday. World’s greatest player, a paradigm of virtue, a saintly presence in Serbia, etc etc. All whilst managing to completely ignore the fact that he’s an anti-vaxxer moron.

Ah ha.

Here you go PWM:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-05/novak-djokovic-tracey-holmes-analysis/100739078

Ta.

buffy said:

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Umm……………what’s Tracey done?

Wrote a gushing article about Djokovic yesterday. World’s greatest player, a paradigm of virtue, a saintly presence in Serbia, etc etc. All whilst managing to completely ignore the fact that he’s an anti-vaxxer moron.

Actually, she wrote the legal facts out. She undeniably thinks he’s a good player. But she set out the details of things at that point in time.

I saw one of the exemptions is going mental if getting a vaccine, strange one to include, you could just be acting like a dick instead of an actual phobia and even so people have to get needles scared or not.

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Has anyone done a Community Care check on Tracy Holmes?

Umm……………what’s Tracey done?

Wrote a gushing article about Djokovic yesterday. World’s greatest player, a paradigm of virtue, a saintly presence in Serbia, etc etc. All whilst managing to completely ignore the fact that he’s an anti-vaxxer moron.

Just found it and read it.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-05/novak-djokovic-tracey-holmes-analysis/100739078

Cymek said:

buffy said:

sibeen said:

Wrote a gushing article about Djokovic yesterday. World’s greatest player, a paradigm of virtue, a saintly presence in Serbia, etc etc. All whilst managing to completely ignore the fact that he’s an anti-vaxxer moron.

Actually, she wrote the legal facts out. She undeniably thinks he’s a good player. But she set out the details of things at that point in time.

I saw one of the exemptions is going mental if getting a vaccine, strange one to include, you could just be acting like a dick instead of an actual phobia and even so people have to get needles scared or not.

I’m needle phobic & every needle is a mind numbing struggle for me.
This is after more than 500 needles during my treatment. The vax & the boosters are no fun but the consequences of not having them would be far worse.

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

buffy said:

Actually, she wrote the legal facts out. She undeniably thinks he’s a good player. But she set out the details of things at that point in time.

I saw one of the exemptions is going mental if getting a vaccine, strange one to include, you could just be acting like a dick instead of an actual phobia and even so people have to get needles scared or not.

I’m needle phobic & every needle is a mind numbing struggle for me.
This is after more than 500 needles during my treatment. The vax & the boosters are no fun but the consequences of not having them would be far worse.

Yes exactly you acted responsible even though its quite unpleasant..
Most needles don’t really hurt compared to the minor injuries one gets just by being alive

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

mollwollfumble said:

It’s always been the case that recovering from Covid provides better protection than vaccine.

The research the opposite to be the case. SCIENCE posted a link to results that showed the vaccines provide tougher protection than getting through a bout of Covid.

Plus you are much less likely to die or get long Covid

I’d like to see that link.

Everyone I know who’s had Covid has been fully vaccinated before they caught it.

There were plenty of discussions on the risk of getting it twice early in 2020. South Korea was looking into it. Do you know anyone, personally, who has caught Covid twice, other than those who are immunocomprimised?

Cymek said:

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

I saw one of the exemptions is going mental if getting a vaccine, strange one to include, you could just be acting like a dick instead of an actual phobia and even so people have to get needles scared or not.

I’m needle phobic & every needle is a mind numbing struggle for me.
This is after more than 500 needles during my treatment. The vax & the boosters are no fun but the consequences of not having them would be far worse.

Yes exactly you acted responsible even though its quite unpleasant..
Most needles don’t really hurt compared to the minor injuries one gets just by being alive

I know the needles don’t hurt but a phobia is an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something. Operative word “irrational”

Cymek said:

buffy said:

sibeen said:

Wrote a gushing article about Djokovic yesterday. World’s greatest player, a paradigm of virtue, a saintly presence in Serbia, etc etc. All whilst managing to completely ignore the fact that he’s an anti-vaxxer moron.

Actually, she wrote the legal facts out. She undeniably thinks he’s a good player. But she set out the details of things at that point in time.

I saw one of the exemptions is going mental if getting a vaccine, strange one to include, you could just be acting like a dick instead of an actual phobia and even so people have to get needles scared or not.

The Djoker would probably qualify under that rule. He’s not the most stable of chaps.

Every year I apply for a wild card into the Australian and every year I get a knock back.
The replies were originally polite.

Dear Peak Warming Man.

It is with great regret that your application in this instance…….etc etc

Yours With Regret
Tennis Australia.

not so much now.

Dear Idiot

FUCK OFF

Tennis Australia.

There’s no need for that.

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

Tamb said:

I’m needle phobic & every needle is a mind numbing struggle for me.
This is after more than 500 needles during my treatment. The vax & the boosters are no fun but the consequences of not having them would be far worse.

Yes exactly you acted responsible even though its quite unpleasant..
Most needles don’t really hurt compared to the minor injuries one gets just by being alive

I know the needles don’t hurt but a phobia is an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something. Operative word “irrational”

Yes I wasn’t belittling you or anything.

Cymek said:

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

Yes exactly you acted responsible even though its quite unpleasant..
Most needles don’t really hurt compared to the minor injuries one gets just by being alive

I know the needles don’t hurt but a phobia is an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something. Operative word “irrational”

Yes I wasn’t belittling you or anything.

Thanks mate. I knew you weren’t.
Living with this cancer for almost 4 years makes me a bit twitchy.

mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

mollwollfumble said:

It’s always been the case that recovering from Covid provides better protection than vaccine.

The research the opposite to be the case. SCIENCE posted a link to results that showed the vaccines provide tougher protection than getting through a bout of Covid.

It might depend on which research you choose.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210830/Does-SARS-CoV-2-natural-infection-immunity-better-protect-against-the-Delta-variant-than-vaccination.aspx

Plus you are much less likely to die or get long Covid

I’d like to see that link.

Everyone I know who’s had Covid has been fully vaccinated before they caught it.

There were plenty of discussions on the risk of getting it twice early in 2020. South Korea was looking into it. Do you know anyone, personally, who has caught Covid twice, other than those who are immunocomprimised?

being SCIENCE we’ll stick with the research not advanced by psychopathic plutocratic interests

the answer to mollwollfumble is, of course, that COVID-19 actually damages your immune system, so everyone* who has caught it the first time is likely immunosuppressed, and remember, with a pre-existing condition like that, the second time you get it, the healthcare system will leave you for dead when they need space for the first timers

*: anyone

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

Tamb said:

I know the needles don’t hurt but a phobia is an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something. Operative word “irrational”

Yes I wasn’t belittling you or anything.

Thanks mate. I knew you weren’t.
Living with this cancer for almost 4 years makes me a bit twitchy.

I imagine so, not something nice.
Cancer is probably one of the worst words in the human language.

mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

The research the opposite to be the case. SCIENCE posted a link to results that showed the vaccines provide tougher protection than getting through a bout of Covid.

Plus you are much less likely to die or get long Covid

I’d like to see that link.

Everyone I know who’s had Covid has been fully vaccinated before they caught it.

There were plenty of discussions on the risk of getting it twice early in 2020. South Korea was looking into it. Do you know anyone, personally, who has caught Covid twice, other than those who are immunocomprimised?

Yesterday my Doctor told me his daughter has contracted COVID for a second time. I don’t know her personally. She works at a Melbourne hospital as an emergency nurse.

First time was pre-vaccinations and she was very ill. Second time she was fully vaccinated. Mild symptoms second time.

Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

Plus you are much less likely to die or get long Covid

I’d like to see that link.

Everyone I know who’s had Covid has been fully vaccinated before they caught it.

There were plenty of discussions on the risk of getting it twice early in 2020. South Korea was looking into it. Do you know anyone, personally, who has caught Covid twice, other than those who are immunocomprimised?

Yesterday my Doctor told me his daughter has contracted COVID for a second time. I don’t know her personally. She works at a Melbourne hospital as an emergency nurse.

First time was pre-vaccinations and she was very ill. Second time she was fully vaccinated. Mild symptoms second time.

It’s purpose really to prepare your body for when you get the real thing, preventing it spreading is secondary.
I wonder what the odds are of the average person getting it, some professions greatly increase your odds obviously.

Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

Plus you are much less likely to die or get long Covid

I’d like to see that link.

Everyone I know who’s had Covid has been fully vaccinated before they caught it.

There were plenty of discussions on the risk of getting it twice early in 2020. South Korea was looking into it. Do you know anyone, personally, who has caught Covid twice, other than those who are immunocomprimised?

Yesterday my Doctor told me his daughter has contracted COVID for a second time. I don’t know her personally. She works at a Melbourne hospital as an emergency nurse.

First time was pre-vaccinations and she was very ill. Second time she was fully vaccinated. Mild symptoms second time.

that’ll be the first infection protecting her, not the vaccinations

obviously

Ham (nearly all gone) with HEM sanger and a cuppa.
Over.

mollwollfumble said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Imagine if tennis is deemed unwoke by the people who decree these things.
Statues of tennis players could be dragged from parks, decapitated and thrown in rivers.
People could have their careers ruined because it was revealed on social media that they once owned a tennis racket even if it was only for personal use.
People banned from twitter for using the derogatory term ‘tennis player’ against an antagonist.
It’s pretty scary.

Well, it happened to “coal miner”.

And “white”.

Seriously, you and PWM really need to lift your game.

Cymek said:

V. It’s purpose really to prepare your body for when you get the real thing, preventing it spreading is secondary.

X. I wonder what the odds are of the average person getting it, some professions greatly increase your odds obviously.

V.
Whilst we accept that it does reduce risk of severe disease, ideally we suggest that vaccinations would be to reduce transmission as well, and the 3rd dose was almost good for that if only no Out Of South Africa.

X.
They want you to believe it’s 100% obviously but we suggest with good mask use it’s more like 000%.

The Shovel:

‘ The Manus Island Open is thrilled to announce wild card entrant Novak Djokovic

In a surprise announcement this morning, little-known tennis tournament The Manus Island Open has confirmed that world number one Novak Djokovic will play as a wild card entrant, and could arrive on the island as soon as this afternoon.’

and

‘Victorians granted last-minute medical exemption from Novak Djokovic’ .

Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

Plus you are much less likely to die or get long Covid

I’d like to see that link.

Everyone I know who’s had Covid has been fully vaccinated before they caught it.

There were plenty of discussions on the risk of getting it twice early in 2020. South Korea was looking into it. Do you know anyone, personally, who has caught Covid twice, other than those who are immunocomprimised?

Yesterday my Doctor told me his daughter has contracted COVID for a second time. I don’t know her personally. She works at a Melbourne hospital as an emergency nurse.

First time was pre-vaccinations and she was very ill. Second time she was fully vaccinated. Mild symptoms second time.

So she has actually got wildcaught immunity plus vax immunity.

Peak Warming Man said:

Ham (nearly all gone) with HEM sanger and a cuppa.
Over.

I nuked the potatoes I dug this morning and we et them with a dressing of crushed garlic (also from the garden), butter and snipped parsley. It was good.

buffy said:

Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’d like to see that link.

Everyone I know who’s had Covid has been fully vaccinated before they caught it.

There were plenty of discussions on the risk of getting it twice early in 2020. South Korea was looking into it. Do you know anyone, personally, who has caught Covid twice, other than those who are immunocomprimised?

Yesterday my Doctor told me his daughter has contracted COVID for a second time. I don’t know her personally. She works at a Melbourne hospital as an emergency nurse.

First time was pre-vaccinations and she was very ill. Second time she was fully vaccinated. Mild symptoms second time.

So she has actually got wildcaught immunity plus vax immunity.

I guess so.

Witty Rejoinder said:

LOL

Peak Warming Man said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

LOL

LOL indeed.

Peak Warming Man said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

LOL

I laughed at that, too.

Tennys Sandgren can go in the list too.

Michael V said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

Yesterday my Doctor told me his daughter has contracted COVID for a second time. I don’t know her personally. She works at a Melbourne hospital as an emergency nurse.

First time was pre-vaccinations and she was very ill. Second time she was fully vaccinated. Mild symptoms second time.

So she has actually got wildcaught immunity plus vax immunity.

I guess so.

FWIW Spocky knows some people around the world that have caught it three times, and at least one person four times.

Michael V said:

Tennys Sandgren can go in the list too.

Yeah, the other well known anti-vaxxer.

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

Tennys Sandgren can go in the list too.

Yeah, the other well known anti-vaxxer.

If he gets covid it’s likely he’ll be past tennys.

I realise there are privacy rules but it sure would be good to learn of the basis for his exemption application

dv said:

I realise there are privacy rules but it sure would be good to learn of the basis for his exemption application

I didn’t realise that tennis Australia had branched out so much.

sibeen said:

dv said:

I realise there are privacy rules but it sure would be good to learn of the basis for his exemption application

I didn’t realise that tennis Australia had branched out so much.

Hey ya gotta diversify in this economy

sibeen said:

:)

Novak Djokovic’s father says the cancelling of his son’s visa for Australia was politically motivated and hits out at Scott Morrison, accusing him of trying to bring Serbia “to its knees”.

roughbarked said:

Novak Djokovic’s father says the cancelling of his son’s visa for Australia was politically motivated and hits out at Scott Morrison, accusing him of trying to bring Serbia “to its knees”.

Serbia’s economy/society/security revolves around the Djoker?

No wonder he’s a dispshit. That’s a lot of responsibility for one gawky bloke in sweaty t-shirts to bear.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Novak Djokovic’s father says the cancelling of his son’s visa for Australia was politically motivated and hits out at Scott Morrison, accusing him of trying to bring Serbia “to its knees”.

Serbia’s economy/society/security revolves around the Djoker?

No wonder he’s a dispshit. That’s a lot of responsibility for one gawky bloke in sweaty t-shirts to bear.

‘Dispshit’ is Serbian for ‘dipshit’, of course.

Nadal on Djokovic.

“The world has been suffering enough. Get vaccinated.”

“If he wanted, he would be playing here in Australia without problems. He makes his own decision. Everyone is free to take their own decisions, but then there are some consequences, no?”

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I consider this a very fair comment; others may see it as sledging.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/live-novak-djokovic-visa-reactions/100741054

captain_spalding said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Novak Djokovic’s father says the cancelling of his son’s visa for Australia was politically motivated and hits out at Scott Morrison, accusing him of trying to bring Serbia “to its knees”.

Serbia’s economy/society/security revolves around the Djoker?

No wonder he’s a dispshit. That’s a lot of responsibility for one gawky bloke in sweaty t-shirts to bear.

‘Dispshit’ is Serbian for ‘dipshit’, of course.

I wonder how many cases of people being refused entry because of visa problems there are in a typical year.

Quite a few I should think, I suspect there may even have been some Serbs amongst them.

The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

captain_spalding said:

Serbia’s economy/society/security revolves around the Djoker?

No wonder he’s a dispshit. That’s a lot of responsibility for one gawky bloke in sweaty t-shirts to bear.

‘Dispshit’ is Serbian for ‘dipshit’, of course.

I wonder how many cases of people being refused entry because of visa problems there are in a typical year.

Quite a few I should think, I suspect there may even have been some Serbs amongst them.

Djoker’s dad seems to think that we’re picking on just Novax.

This is not true.

We discriminate against all Serbs.

“Mr Djokovic is not being held captive in Australia, he is free to leave at any time that he chooses to do so and Border Force will actually facilitate that,” she said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-tennis-australian-open-detention-melbourne/100742036

Boris Becker says Djokovic is ‘making a big mistake’ by not getting vaccinated

Tennis great Boris Becker, who was Djokovic’s coach for four of his Australian Open title wins, has written in his column for UK newspaper The Daily Mail that the world number one is threatenining what remains of his career and his chance to cement himself as the greatest player of all time.

“The same incredible determination which I saw win so many close matches can be a vulnerability with his stubbornness,” Becker wrote.

“It is not just about Australia. The fact is that we are living in a different world and he is going to find it very hard to live the life of a professional tennis player travelling around without the vaccination.

“Those are the rules, whether one likes them or not, and you have to accept it. Maybe one day we will get back to a more normal situation, but at 34 he does not have much time left to pursue his goals.”

Meanwhile novaxnovac’s mother is railing against how he’s been singled out and how it is political.

Just shakes head. Who are these people?

roughbarked said:

Meanwhile novaxnovac’s mother is railing against how he’s been singled out and how it is political.

Just shakes head. Who are these people?

Serbians. Fuck Serbia, they’re all nuts.

roughbarked said:

Meanwhile novaxnovac’s mother is railing against how he’s been singled out and how it is political.

Just shakes head. Who are these people?

Wouldn’t your mum do the same for you?

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

Meanwhile novaxnovac’s mother is railing against how he’s been singled out and how it is political.

Just shakes head. Who are these people?

Serbians. Fuck Serbia, they’re all nuts.

Jelena Djokovic calls for ‘love and forgiveness’

“Thank you dear people, all around the world for using your voice to send love to my husband. I am taking a deep breath to calm down and find gratitude (and understanding) in this moment for all that is happening. The only law that we should all respect across every single border is Love and respect for another human being. Love and forgiveness is never a mistake but a powerful force”.

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

Meanwhile novaxnovac’s mother is railing against how he’s been singled out and how it is political.

Just shakes head. Who are these people?

Wouldn’t your mum do the same for you?

Not if I was being a dickhead.

roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

Meanwhile novaxnovac’s mother is railing against how he’s been singled out and how it is political.

Just shakes head. Who are these people?

Wouldn’t your mum do the same for you?

Not if I was being a dickhead.

Fair isn’t it, what about respecting the law of the land as you are a guest especially at the moment

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

Meanwhile novaxnovac’s mother is railing against how he’s been singled out and how it is political.

Just shakes head. Who are these people?

Serbians. Fuck Serbia, they’re all nuts.

Jelena Djokovic calls for ‘love and forgiveness’

“Thank you dear people, all around the world for using your voice to send love to my husband. I am taking a deep breath to calm down and find gratitude (and understanding) in this moment for all that is happening. The only law that we should all respect across every single border is Love and respect for another human being. Love and forgiveness is never a mistake but a powerful force”.

I wonder if she was cheering her mob on in the early 90s? not that she was that old at the time.

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

Meanwhile novaxnovac’s mother is railing against how he’s been singled out and how it is political.

Just shakes head. Who are these people?

Wouldn’t your mum do the same for you?

If I was antivax and causing headline problems, my Mum would have gone on the news to call me a complete fucking moron.

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Woodie said:

Wouldn’t your mum do the same for you?

Not if I was being a dickhead.

Fair isn’t it, what about respecting the law of the land as you are a guest especially at the moment

The law of many lands in this day and age is no movement without vaccination status.
He’s being a dickhead thinking he is a demigod. He isn’t.

JudgeMental said:

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

Serbians. Fuck Serbia, they’re all nuts.

Jelena Djokovic calls for ‘love and forgiveness’

“Thank you dear people, all around the world for using your voice to send love to my husband. I am taking a deep breath to calm down and find gratitude (and understanding) in this moment for all that is happening. The only law that we should all respect across every single border is Love and respect for another human being. Love and forgiveness is never a mistake but a powerful force”.

I wonder if she was cheering her mob on in the early 90s? not that she was that old at the time.

She sounds like a team player.

Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

Meanwhile novaxnovac’s mother is railing against how he’s been singled out and how it is political.

Just shakes head. Who are these people?

Wouldn’t your mum do the same for you?

If I was antivax and causing headline problems, my Mum would have gone on the news to call me a complete fucking moron.

exactly.

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Not if I was being a dickhead.

Fair isn’t it, what about respecting the law of the land as you are a guest especially at the moment

The law of many lands in this day and age is no movement without vaccination status.
He’s being a dickhead thinking he is a demigod. He isn’t.

That’s what I think

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Fair isn’t it, what about respecting the law of the land as you are a guest especially at the moment

The law of many lands in this day and age is no movement without vaccination status.
He’s being a dickhead thinking he is a demigod. He isn’t.

That’s what I think

No, that’s what I think. I thought it first!

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

The law of many lands in this day and age is no movement without vaccination status.
He’s being a dickhead thinking he is a demigod. He isn’t.

That’s what I think

No, that’s what I think. I thought it first!

We probably all did. ;)

JudgeMental said:

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

Serbians. Fuck Serbia, they’re all nuts.

Jelena Djokovic calls for ‘love and forgiveness’

“Thank you dear people, all around the world for using your voice to send love to my husband. I am taking a deep breath to calm down and find gratitude (and understanding) in this moment for all that is happening. The only law that we should all respect across every single border is Love and respect for another human being. Love and forgiveness is never a mistake but a powerful force”.

I wonder if she was cheering her mob on in the early 90s? not that she was that old at the time.

snigger

Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

Meanwhile novaxnovac’s mother is railing against how he’s been singled out and how it is political.

Just shakes head. Who are these people?

Wouldn’t your mum do the same for you?

If I was antivax and causing headline problems, my Mum would have gone on the news to call me a complete fucking moron.

I think my mother would too. I’ll ask when I next call her.

Now, I don’t agree with giving him an exemption but once given I don’t agree with revoking it after he arrived. That’s an even worse look. Should have just let him in, made him quarantine and let the crowd have their say, if they so choose…

furious said:

Now, I don’t agree with giving him an exemption but once given I don’t agree with revoking it after he arrived. That’s an even worse look. Should have just let him in, made him quarantine and let the crowd have their say, if they so choose…

Decision to let Djokovic play flows from granting of visa, former Immigration Department official says

Further quotes from former Immigration Department deputy secretary Abul Rizvi’s interview. He says other decisions would have been made following the decision to grant Djokovic a visa.

He says shortly after or at the same time that Health Minister Greg Hunt wrote to Tennis Australia warning them that any player visiting the country would need to be fully vaccinated to enter the country, Djokovic was granted a visa which did not take into account those concerns.

“Once that visa has been granted, the Victorian government would have known of that, as would have Tennis Australia. They would have run their blind test which itself has some problems to it. Good administration would say you don’t run blind processes like that,” Mr Rizvi says.

“Leaving that to one side, the Victorian government was in the position at that point of knowing that Mr Djokovic had a visa to enter Australia and could have been wandering around the streets of Australia, but not allowed to play in the Australian Open. So I’m not surprised the Victorian government eventually found a process which allowed Mr Djokovic to play in the Australian Open.

“We then have the Prime Minister saying, ‘Well, this is all entirely a matter for the Victorian government’. Some 24-48 hours later, the Prime Minister says ‘rules are rules and it’s entirely up to us to decide who comes into Australia and we have cancelled Mr Djokovic’s visa’.

“Whether that reflects politics, I don’t know, I think it’s for individuals to judge.”

Former top Immigration Department official says Djokovic may have been granted visa automatically

Abul Rizvi, the former deputy secretary of the Department of Immigration, was interviewed on ABC News earlier.

He says it’s possible Djokovic was granted his sporting activities 408 subclass visa automatically, the correct one he was meant to apply for.

He says if this was the case, there should have been some human oversight to check all COVID requirements were met.

“That visa is applied for online and can, if the person meets all the requirements as set out in the computer, be granted automatically without human intervention,” Mr Rizvi said.

“It is quite possible that is what happened. If it is indeed what happened, it suggests a certain dereliction of duty because under the current COVID circumstances, these were clearly cases that should have been flagged in the system and should have been subject to the involvement of a human being who can consider the application in more detail. Including whether the individuals were appropriately vaccinated before the visa was granted.”

Sounds like a right auld clustrerfuck all round.

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

Woodie said:

Wouldn’t your mum do the same for you?

If I was antivax and causing headline problems, my Mum would have gone on the news to call me a complete fucking moron.

I think my mother would too. I’ll ask when I next call her.

Make sure she spells his name right

dv said:

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

If I was antivax and causing headline problems, my Mum would have gone on the news to call me a complete fucking moron.

I think my mother would too. I’ll ask when I next call her.

Make sure she spells his name right

ROFL

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/tennis/how-sceptical-djokovic-became-a-pin-up-for-the-anti-vaccination-movement-20220107-p59mjh.html

A female tennis player from the Czech Republic has had her Australian visa cancelled and is being detained in the same immigration hotel as Serbian star Novak Djokovic.

The ABC can reveal Renata Voráčová, who has already played in a warm-up tournament in Melbourne, was detained by Australian Border Force officials yesterday and taken to the Park Hotel in Carlton.

A government source familiar with the case has confirmed Voráčová was informed by ABF officials she must soon leave the country, but it is still unclear if she intends to challenge the decision.

Voráčová is believed to have entered Australia last month with a vaccine exemption granted by Tennis Australia because she had recently contracted and recovered from COVID-19.

Czech diplomats are believed to be in contact with the 38-year-old player, but the country’s embassy in Canberra is yet to comment publicly.

The ABC has approached the Home Affairs Minister’s office for comment.

Suffer in ya djoks, Novax!

Novak Djokovic’s vaccine hesitancy is unusual for a tennis player. For a Serb it is not
Elite sportsmen are likelier than the general public to be vaccinated
JAN 5TH 2022

Novak djokovic, the world’s highest-ranked men’s tennis player, caused a stir on January 5th when he was granted a medical exemption to enter Australia. People who are not inoculated against covid-19 may not, at present, enter the country. But Mr Djokovic, who said in 2020 that he was “opposed to vaccination”, wants to defend his title at the Australian Open, which starts on January 17th. Whether he will get to do so remains uncertain. Australia’s prime minister had said on January 5th that Mr Djokovic would have to “provide acceptable proof that he cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons”. After a wait of several hours on landing at Melbourne airport, Mr Djokovic was told his visa had been cancelled, reportedly after concerns over errors in his application and whether he had the evidence needed for an exemption.

The furore around Mr Djokovic’s exceptionalism comes at a time when people doing all sorts of jobs are being asked to get vaccinated or to provide proof of their vaccination status. Data gathered by The Economist finds that with few exceptions, men competing in top-tier professional sports are likelier than their country’s general population to be vaccinated. North America’s National Hockey League has the highest vaccination rate among the 11 leagues and associations for which we gathered data. It has reported that 99% of its 700 or so players are fully vaccinated, compared with 73% of American adults overall.

The 11 sporting competitions can be divided into three distinct groups. The two team sports that take place indoors—basketball and ice hockey—have an average vaccination rate of 98%. Since the disease spreads more easily indoors, that is good for both players and fans. Team sports that take place outdoors—football and American football—have a vaccination rate of 94%, on average. And three sports—golf, tennis and baseball—that are played individually or with little contact, have an average vaccination rate of 88%.

Covid-19 is causing more disruption in some sports than others. On December 20th England’s football Premier League said that 84% of players were on the “vaccination journey”, meaning that they have received at least one dose, a markedly lower proportion than in other top-tier football leagues in Europe. As the Omicron variant spread quickly across England last month some clubs were forced to postpone games because they could not field enough covid-free players. Among the league’s 20 teams, 341 players and staff have tested positive since November 29th and 17 games have been postponed. By contrast, across the four other major European leagues just two games have been postponed because of covid-19 since November.

Tennis, a contactless sport which mostly takes place outdoors, might appear less risky. But the Association of Tennis Professionals (ATP), the men’s professional body, has done much to encourage players to get jabbed. The ATP reported in late October that just 65% of its top players were fully vaccinated, but that has since risen to 95%. Yet although as a tennis player Mr Djokovic’s vaccine hesitancy is exceptional, as a Serb it is not. Despite there being little shortage of vaccines in Serbia, where he is from, just 45% of adults have been double-jabbed. Meanwhile, the country has been battered by the disease. According to The Economist‘s tracker Serbia suffered the second-highest number of excess deaths in the world per head of population. With as much clout off the court as on it, Mr Djokovic’s public hesitation to take a life-saving vaccine may well be costing the lives of his countrymen.

https://www.economist.com/news/2022/01/05/as-a-tennis-player-novak-djokovics-vaccine-hesitancy-is-exceptional-as-a-serb-it-is-not?

Witty Rejoinder said:

Novak Djokovic’s vaccine hesitancy is unusual for a tennis player. For a Serb it is not With as much clout off the court as on it, Mr Djokovic’s public hesitation to take a life-saving vaccine may well be costing the lives of his countrymen.

https://www.economist.com/news/2022/01/05/as-a-tennis-player-novak-djokovics-vaccine-hesitancy-is-exceptional-as-a-serb-it-is-not?

Well, the Serbs at his end are mostly in his court. Perhaps he’ll need to go back to their funerals?

Man I hope I don’t have to side with ND

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/djokovic-had-exemption-on-grounds-of-recent-covid-19-infection/100745990

dv said:

Man I hope I don’t have to side with ND

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/djokovic-had-exemption-on-grounds-of-recent-covid-19-infection/100745990

Now, I don’t agree with giving him an exemption but once given I don’t agree with revoking it after he arrived. That’s an even worse look. Should have just let him in, made him quarantine and let the crowd have their say, if they so choose…

dv said:

Man I hope I don’t have to side with ND

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/djokovic-had-exemption-on-grounds-of-recent-covid-19-infection/100745990

Seems like another Federal Government stuff-up.

furious said:

dv said:

Man I hope I don’t have to side with ND

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/djokovic-had-exemption-on-grounds-of-recent-covid-19-infection/100745990

Now, I don’t agree with giving him an exemption but once given I don’t agree with revoking it after he arrived. That’s an even worse look. Should have just let him in, made him quarantine and let the crowd have their say, if they so choose…

There was what seemed a big Hero moment waiting for Scomo, and he was hero-hungry. He’s been reading the polls and flinching.

Bubblecar said:

furious said:

dv said:

Man I hope I don’t have to side with ND

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/djokovic-had-exemption-on-grounds-of-recent-covid-19-infection/100745990

Now, I don’t agree with giving him an exemption but once given I don’t agree with revoking it after he arrived. That’s an even worse look. Should have just let him in, made him quarantine and let the crowd have their say, if they so choose…

There was what seemed a big Hero moment waiting for Scomo, and he was hero-hungry. He’s been reading the polls and flinching.

Well he stuffed up yet again.

dv said:

Man I hope I don’t have to side with ND

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/djokovic-had-exemption-on-grounds-of-recent-covid-19-infection/100745990

can whoever did the test be trusted though?

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

Man I hope I don’t have to side with ND

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/djokovic-had-exemption-on-grounds-of-recent-covid-19-infection/100745990

can whoever did the test be trusted though?

Can’t see much to be trusted about the whole affair.

anyway; Czech tennis player Renata Voráčová deported from Australia after visa cancellation

roughbarked said:

anyway; Czech tennis player Renata Voráčová deported from Australia after visa cancellation

It’s all turning into a bit of a shitup.

What’s the point anyway? The domestic policy is to not-give-a-shit about the spread of the virus and leave it up to individuals to take their own precautions regards vaccinations, masks, social distancing and hand sanitising etc – so if you do end up with the ‘rona it is your own damn fault. If not actively encouraging the spread of the disease it is pretty much do nothing to stop it. The international policy regards who to let into the country or not seems completely at odds with the domestic policy. If the disease is already rampant and out of control domestically, what’s the point of having tough guy border controls??

It makes less sense than …

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

anyway; Czech tennis player Renata Voráčová deported from Australia after visa cancellation

It’s all turning into a bit of a shitup.

What’s the point anyway? The domestic policy is to not-give-a-shit about the spread of the virus and leave it up to individuals to take their own precautions regards vaccinations, masks, social distancing and hand sanitising etc – so if you do end up with the ‘rona it is your own damn fault. If not actively encouraging the spread of the disease it is pretty much do nothing to stop it. The international policy regards who to let into the country or not seems completely at odds with the domestic policy. If the disease is already rampant and out of control domestically, what’s the point of having tough guy border controls??

It makes less sense than …

Tennis?

furious said:

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

anyway; Czech tennis player Renata Voráčová deported from Australia after visa cancellation

It’s all turning into a bit of a shitup.

What’s the point anyway? The domestic policy is to not-give-a-shit about the spread of the virus and leave it up to individuals to take their own precautions regards vaccinations, masks, social distancing and hand sanitising etc – so if you do end up with the ‘rona it is your own damn fault. If not actively encouraging the spread of the disease it is pretty much do nothing to stop it. The international policy regards who to let into the country or not seems completely at odds with the domestic policy. If the disease is already rampant and out of control domestically, what’s the point of having tough guy border controls??

It makes less sense than …

Tennis?

I was going to say Brexit. But this is the wrong thread for that.

She is believed to have entered Australia last month with a vaccine exemption granted by Tennis Australia because she had recently contracted and recovered from COVID-19.

However, like Djokovic, she was told her visa was cancelled for failing to meet the requirement that all non-citizens be vaccinated against the virus.

“All travellers who enter Australia must do so in accordance with our strict laws and entry requirements, regardless of their status or their reasons for entering the country,” an ABF spokesperson said.

“The ABF employ a multi-layered approach … this includes avenues to investigate, locate and detain non-citizens who have been found, after their arrival into Australia, to have breached our border entry requirements.”

Voráčová is the second Australian Open participant to leave the country.

Late on Friday, an ABF spokesperson told the ABC that the first “voluntarily departed Australia following ABF inquiries”.

Sources told the ABC the person who left was a European tennis official, although this is yet to be formally confirmed by the federal government.

Voráčová made her grand slam debut in doubles in 2002 in New York, but has won only one match in 12 appearances at the highest level and is currently ranked 81.

Meanwhile, lawyers for Djokovic have filed court submissions as part of his battle to stay in Australia, confirming he received a medical exemption on the grounds he had contracted COVID-19 less than a month ago and had since recovered.

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

anyway; Czech tennis player Renata Voráčová deported from Australia after visa cancellation

What’s the point anyway?

To protect unvaxxed visitors from us?

roughbarked said:

She is believed to have entered Australia last month with a vaccine exemption granted by Tennis Australia because she had recently contracted and recovered from COVID-19.

However, like Djokovic, she was told her visa was cancelled for failing to meet the requirement that all non-citizens be vaccinated against the virus.

“All travellers who enter Australia must do so in accordance with our strict laws and entry requirements, regardless of their status or their reasons for entering the country,” an ABF spokesperson said.

“The ABF employ a multi-layered approach … this includes avenues to investigate, locate and detain non-citizens who have been found, after their arrival into Australia, to have breached our border entry requirements.”

Voráčová is the second Australian Open participant to leave the country.

Late on Friday, an ABF spokesperson told the ABC that the first “voluntarily departed Australia following ABF inquiries”.

Sources told the ABC the person who left was a European tennis official, although this is yet to be formally confirmed by the federal government.

Voráčová made her grand slam debut in doubles in 2002 in New York, but has won only one match in 12 appearances at the highest level and is currently ranked 81.

Meanwhile, lawyers for Djokovic have filed court submissions as part of his battle to stay in Australia, confirming he received a medical exemption on the grounds he had contracted COVID-19 less than a month ago and had since recovered.

Who are Tennis Australia to be handing out exemptions??

Speedy said:

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

anyway; Czech tennis player Renata Voráčová deported from Australia after visa cancellation

What’s the point anyway?

To protect unvaxxed visitors from us?

if a person has already had it and made a full recovery, do they still need a vaccine?

Speedy said:

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

anyway; Czech tennis player Renata Voráčová deported from Australia after visa cancellation

What’s the point anyway?

To protect unvaxxed visitors from us?

What’s the point? Big Chomper, Big Chomper…

party_pants said:

Speedy said:

party_pants said:

What’s the point anyway?

To protect unvaxxed visitors from us?

if a person has already had it and made a full recovery, do they still need a vaccine?

I watched a health official being interviewed about this and they explained that one Covid infection is equal to a single jab only.

party_pants said:

Speedy said:

party_pants said:

What’s the point anyway?

To protect unvaxxed visitors from us?

if a person has already had it and made a full recovery, do they still need a vaccine?

Well, given its his, at least, second bout, then, yeah…

furious said:

party_pants said:

Speedy said:

To protect unvaxxed visitors from us?

if a person has already had it and made a full recovery, do they still need a vaccine?

Well, given its his, at least, second bout, then, yeah…

Refer to my previous post. He’d only be due for a booster, and in NSW that would be 5 months from mid-December.

Speedy said:

furious said:

party_pants said:

if a person has already had it and made a full recovery, do they still need a vaccine?

Well, given its his, at least, second bout, then, yeah…

Refer to my previous post. He’d only be due for a booster, and in NSW that would be 5 months from mid-December.

What about in Victoria?

roughbarked said:

Speedy said:

furious said:

Well, given its his, at least, second bout, then, yeah…

Refer to my previous post. He’d only be due for a booster, and in NSW that would be 5 months from mid-December.

What about in Victoria?

I just checked and it’s 4 months in Victoria.

so what we need is a sporting doping agency scope expansion to medical exemptions as well

Stan Grant on : https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-09/novak-djokovic-covid-tennis-and-borders/100743476

furious said:

dv said:

Man I hope I don’t have to side with ND

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/djokovic-had-exemption-on-grounds-of-recent-covid-19-infection/100745990

Now, I don’t agree with giving him an exemption but once given I don’t agree with revoking it after he arrived. That’s an even worse look. Should have just let him in, made him quarantine and let the crowd have their say, if they so choose…

It wasn’t an exemption to enter the country. Tennis Australia gave an exemption for him to play in the Melbourne tournament. It was then up to him to get his visa right to come into the country. From what I’ve read in the ABC news, someone somewhere in his office failed in sorting out the visa requirements.

party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

anyway; Czech tennis player Renata Voráčová deported from Australia after visa cancellation

It’s all turning into a bit of a shitup.

What’s the point anyway? The domestic policy is to not-give-a-shit about the spread of the virus and leave it up to individuals to take their own precautions regards vaccinations, masks, social distancing and hand sanitising etc – so if you do end up with the ‘rona it is your own damn fault. If not actively encouraging the spread of the disease it is pretty much do nothing to stop it. The international policy regards who to let into the country or not seems completely at odds with the domestic policy. If the disease is already rampant and out of control domestically, what’s the point of having tough guy border controls??

It makes less sense than …

Are you saying we’ve gone all Swedish, relying on personal responsibility?

buffy said:

furious said:

dv said:

Man I hope I don’t have to side with ND

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/djokovic-had-exemption-on-grounds-of-recent-covid-19-infection/100745990

Now, I don’t agree with giving him an exemption but once given I don’t agree with revoking it after he arrived. That’s an even worse look. Should have just let him in, made him quarantine and let the crowd have their say, if they so choose…

It wasn’t an exemption to enter the country. Tennis Australia gave an exemption for him to play in the Melbourne tournament. It was then up to him to get his visa right to come into the country. From what I’ve read in the ABC news, someone somewhere in his office failed in sorting out the visa requirements.

This is the story yes. The game may change when he gets his day in court but basically the sticking point is as above.

Dr Sara Marzouk

The Djokovic court documents are interesting.

So, let me get this straight? 🧐

Novak Djokovic was granted a temporary visa to enter Australia on November 18th.
He was then named on the Australian Open entry list in December 8.

He then conveniently tested positive for COVID-19 on the 16th of December. A whole 8 days AFTER being listed as an Australian Open entrant. Conveniently while in Serbia, naturally.

Yet, somehow, on the day he tested positive for COVID he wasnt isolating anywhere. No, he was attending a ceremony, maskless, marking his appearance on a set of Serbian stamps.

And the following day he was merrily handing out awards in an event orchestrated by the Serbian Tennis Association on December 17th, maskless and without any social distancing.

He was also well enough to attend a panel discussion at the Novak Tennis Centre “Path of a Champion” program on the same day 🤨

On December 30, on the basis of this timely infection, he was then issued with a medical exemption from Tennis Australia. The same Tennis Australia that was informed by the Federal Government that previous COVID infection in the past 6 months did not satisfy the requirement for being ‘fully vaccinated’.

Even more remarkably, the deadline to apply for this exemption was December 10, 6 days BEFORE he allegedly tested positive 🤔

He then was given a document from Home Affairs that stated based on his ‘responses’ in the traveler declaration that he met the requirement for quarantine-free travel in Australia.

If true, the main message here that needs to be emphasised: reinfection with COVID is possible, and that’s all the more reason for Djokovic to get vaccinated.

The second message would be that Tennis Australia has orchestrated this entire sordid affair because they believed the viability of the Open rested on the appearance of one person.

Unfortunately, it’s hard to believe that this ‘reinfection’ is anything more than a convenient ploy to flout the rules.

I smell a 🐀 and it’s not the one that people are desperate to find.
- Sara

JudgeMental said:

Dr Sara Marzouk

The Djokovic court documents are interesting.

So, let me get this straight? 🧐

Novak Djokovic was granted a temporary visa to enter Australia on November 18th.
He was then named on the Australian Open entry list in December 8.

He then conveniently tested positive for COVID-19 on the 16th of December. A whole 8 days AFTER being listed as an Australian Open entrant. Conveniently while in Serbia, naturally.

Yet, somehow, on the day he tested positive for COVID he wasnt isolating anywhere. No, he was attending a ceremony, maskless, marking his appearance on a set of Serbian stamps.

And the following day he was merrily handing out awards in an event orchestrated by the Serbian Tennis Association on December 17th, maskless and without any social distancing.

He was also well enough to attend a panel discussion at the Novak Tennis Centre “Path of a Champion” program on the same day 🤨

On December 30, on the basis of this timely infection, he was then issued with a medical exemption from Tennis Australia. The same Tennis Australia that was informed by the Federal Government that previous COVID infection in the past 6 months did not satisfy the requirement for being ‘fully vaccinated’.

Even more remarkably, the deadline to apply for this exemption was December 10, 6 days BEFORE he allegedly tested positive 🤔

He then was given a document from Home Affairs that stated based on his ‘responses’ in the traveler declaration that he met the requirement for quarantine-free travel in Australia.

If true, the main message here that needs to be emphasised: reinfection with COVID is possible, and that’s all the more reason for Djokovic to get vaccinated.

The second message would be that Tennis Australia has orchestrated this entire sordid affair because they believed the viability of the Open rested on the appearance of one person.

Unfortunately, it’s hard to believe that this ‘reinfection’ is anything more than a convenient ploy to flout the rules.

I smell a 🐀 and it’s not the one that people are desperate to find.
- Sara

So the visa was granted prior to any Tennis Australia stuff? Did I read that right?

buffy said:

So the visa was granted prior to any Tennis Australia stuff? Did I read that right?

Possibly, but from what Dr Sara says there, he may have declared to Home Affairs that he met the requirement for quarantine-free travel in Australia, so they could have granted him the visa on that basis.

It seems that he perhaps told a fib or two.

roughbarked said:

Stan Grant on : https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-09/novak-djokovic-covid-tennis-and-borders/100743476

ah

Hollywood stars like Julia Roberts and Matt Damon set up temporary home in Australia. Nicole Kidman and Dannii Minogue were allowed luxurious private quarantine while other Australians lucky enough to get a flight back were put into quarantine hotels.

quarantine hotels, so that’s what they called Christmas Island, makes sense

Those who would prefer it otherwise need to do more than elect new politicians, to paraphrase Bertolt Brecht, they would do better to elect a new people.

maybe they just need to donate to the politicians

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Barnaby Joyce rebuffs suggestions Australia’s reputation is being harmed by its detention of tennis world number one Novak Djokovic in an immigration hotel, as his government defends its decision to deport Djokovic in court.

That’s Barnaby’s job. To rebuff.

roughbarked said:

Barnaby Joyce rebuffs suggestions Australia’s reputation is being harmed by its detention of tennis world number one Novak Djokovic in an immigration hotel, as his government defends its decision to deport Djokovic in court.

That’s Barnaby’s job. To rebuff.

Who made the suggestion? United Nations? World Health Organisation? International Tennis Federation? Some despot President in far flung Eastern Europe?

Or some unknown journalist looking for a headline.

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

Barnaby Joyce rebuffs suggestions Australia’s reputation is being harmed by its detention of tennis world number one Novak Djokovic in an immigration hotel, as his government defends its decision to deport Djokovic in court.

That’s Barnaby’s job. To rebuff.

Who made the suggestion? United Nations? World Health Organisation? International Tennis Federation? Some despot President in far flung Eastern Europe?

Or some unknown journalist looking for a headline.

There’s a vague possibility that the suggestion came from some Serbian journalist’s pen?

and the pendulum keeps swinging.

On Sunday, Tennis Australia’s CEO Craig Tiley said he still hoped to see Djokovic play at the Australian Open.

He also claimed his sporting body was provided with inconsistent information from different government agencies as it tried to help coordinate players’ arrival into Australia.

“On the course of this journey, as the introduction of medical exemptions were proceeded with, there was plenty of contradictory information, plenty of conflicting information and we constantly were seeking clarity from day one,” he said.

“All the information we had at the time, the knowledge we had at the time, was supplied to players.”

The judge presiding over Djokovic’s case, Anthony Kelly, questioned what more the tennis player could have done to ensure his entry to Australia.

Obviously the validity of an application is not directly related to its quality, but to the effort involved as a fraction of how much effort could have been involved.

SCIENCE said:

The judge presiding over Djokovic’s case, Anthony Kelly, questioned what more the tennis player could have done to ensure his entry to Australia.

Obviously the validity of an application is not directly related to its quality, but to the effort involved as a fraction of how much effort could have been involved.

Get the vaccine perhaps

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

The judge presiding over Djokovic’s case, Anthony Kelly, questioned what more the tennis player could have done to ensure his entry to Australia.

Obviously the validity of an application is not directly related to its quality, but to the effort involved as a fraction of how much effort could have been involved.

Get the vaccine perhaps

^

, but we’re not convinced the legal team will be bringing that

SCIENCE said:

The judge presiding over Djokovic’s case, Anthony Kelly, questioned what more the tennis player could have done to ensure his entry to Australia.

Obviously the validity of an application is not directly related to its quality, but to the effort involved as a fraction of how much effort could have been involved.

He gave it to his handlers to organise. That shit his below his status as a demigod.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

The judge presiding over Djokovic’s case, Anthony Kelly, questioned what more the tennis player could have done to ensure his entry to Australia.

Obviously the validity of an application is not directly related to its quality, but to the effort involved as a fraction of how much effort could have been involved.

He gave it to his handlers to organise. That shit his below his status as a demigod.

I mean one simple thing he could have done was get vaccinated

dv said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

The judge presiding over Djokovic’s case, Anthony Kelly, questioned what more the tennis player could have done to ensure his entry to Australia.

Obviously the validity of an application is not directly related to its quality, but to the effort involved as a fraction of how much effort could have been involved.

He gave it to his handlers to organise. That shit his below his status as a demigod.

I mean one simple thing he could have done was get vaccinated

You expect a strident Anti-Vaxxer to get vaccinated now, instead of standing his ground?

Michael V said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

He gave it to his handlers to organise. That shit his below his status as a demigod.

I mean one simple thing he could have done was get vaccinated

You expect a strident Anti-Vaxxer to get vaccinated now, instead of standing his ground?

Take it on the chin and depart Australia

Michael V said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

He gave it to his handlers to organise. That shit his below his status as a demigod.

I mean one simple thing he could have done was get vaccinated

You expect a strident Anti-Vaxxer to get vaccinated now, instead of standing his ground?

I’m not talking about my expectations, just answering the judges question about what more ND could have done

dv said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

I mean one simple thing he could have done was get vaccinated

You expect a strident Anti-Vaxxer to get vaccinated now, instead of standing his ground?

I’m not talking about my expectations, just answering the judges question about what more ND could have done

Ah.

Yes, he could’ve done that indeed.

Michael V said:

dv said:

Michael V said:

You expect a strident Anti-Vaxxer to get vaccinated now, instead of standing his ground?

I’m not talking about my expectations, just answering the judges question about what more ND could have done

Ah.

Yes, he could’ve done that indeed.

+ pull his head in.

dv said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

I mean one simple thing he could have done was get vaccinated

You expect a strident Anti-Vaxxer to get vaccinated now, instead of standing his ground?

I’m not talking about my expectations, just answering the judges question about what more ND could have done

NB: my tongue was very firmly planted in my cheek when I made my comment.

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dude wins court case – he’s free to spread his victory

Arts said:

dude wins court case – he’s free to spread his victory

Jeez. Scomo would lose the election if it was held tomorrow.

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

dude wins court case – he’s free to spread his victory

Jeez. Scomo would lose the election if it was held tomorrow.

do Victorian politicians feel vindicated now

Arts said:

dude wins court case – he’s free to spread his victory

Set a precedent now, all loonies can try the same excuse

So what’s the takeaway message from all this?

dv said:

So what’s the takeaway message from all this?

Maybe there isn’t one.

dv said:

So what’s the takeaway message from all this?

Fame and riches makes you the exception to the rule

dv said:

So what’s the takeaway message from all this?

as it is a monday it won’t be the veal parmi.

dv said:

So what’s the takeaway message from all this?

I don’t know, but it’ll be interesting to see.

I don’t see How Alex Hawke could cancel his visa now, without it becoming a serious international political shit-storm.

He’s still a knob.

Michael V said:

dv said:

So what’s the takeaway message from all this?

I don’t know, but it’ll be interesting to see.

I don’t see How Alex Hawke could cancel his visa now, without it becoming a serious international political shit-storm.

A tricky calculation for the government. On the one hand Djokovic is much less popular than Federer, on the other Sooty is much less popular than a dose of the clap.

Woodie said:

He’s still a knob.

I think so too.

Ian said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

So what’s the takeaway message from all this?

I don’t know, but it’ll be interesting to see.

I don’t see How Alex Hawke could cancel his visa now, without it becoming a serious international political shit-storm.

A tricky calculation for the government. On the one hand Djokovic is much less popular than Federer, on the other Sooty is much less popular than a dose of the clap.

LOL

Michael V said:

dv said:

So what’s the takeaway message from all this?

I don’t know, but it’ll be interesting to see.

I don’t see How Alex Hawke could cancel his visa now, without it becoming a serious international political shit-storm.

The 3 year ban from entering Australia might be unfair considering the mistake seems to be on the part of the state and federal government’s ineptitude.

Cymek said:

dv said:

So what’s the takeaway message from all this?

Fame and riches makes you the exception to the rule

Yeah but we knew that all along.

Michael V said:

Woodie said:

He’s still a knob.

I think so too.

Nothing has changed then.

I’ll be quite happy if they still kick him out regardless.

I’ll be less happy if they don’t, as it will be seen as a victory for the anti-vax lobby.

Bubblecar said:

I’ll be quite happy if they still kick him out regardless.

I’ll be less happy if they don’t, as it will be seen as a victory for the anti-vax lobby.

Hear hear.

“I’m pleased and grateful that the Judge overturned my visa cancellation. Despite all that has happened,I want to stay and try to compete (at the) Australian Open,” he wrote.

“I remain focused on that.

“I flew here to play at one of the most important events we have in front of the amazing fans.”

On Monday a judge ruled Djokovic’s visa had been cancelled unfairly by Australian Border Force officials on his arrival to Melbourne last week but his ability to remain in the country remains unclear, with Immigration Minister Alex Hawke considering whether there are still grounds to cancel the tennis player’s visa.

Just after his statement was posted, Djokovic’s immediate family spoke to media in the Serbian capital of Belgrade, thanking fans for their support and praising Judge Anthony Kelly for his verdict.

Initially it was announced that the tennis ace would join his family virtually for the event, but he did not appear as planned.

“The whole process was not about tennis or the Australian Open, it was about justice for what was done to him,” his younger brother Djordie Djokovic, told media.

“Novak is only fighting for the liberty of choice,” he said, after personally thanking the Federal Circuit Court judge Kelly.

“We are grateful for justice system for Australia.”

His father Srdjan claimed his son’s human rights had been taken away, while his mother Dijana said the men’s tennis world number one was subjected to “torture”.

“This is his biggest win in his career, it is bigger than any grand slam,” she said.

“He has done nothing wrong, he hasn’t broken any of their laws.

“He has been subject to harassment.”

More to come.

roughbarked said:

“I’m pleased and grateful that the Judge overturned my visa cancellation. Despite all that has happened,I want to stay and try to compete (at the) Australian Open,” he wrote.

“I remain focused on that.

“I flew here to play at one of the most important events we have in front of the amazing fans.”

On Monday a judge ruled Djokovic’s visa had been cancelled unfairly by Australian Border Force officials on his arrival to Melbourne last week but his ability to remain in the country remains unclear, with Immigration Minister Alex Hawke considering whether there are still grounds to cancel the tennis player’s visa.

Just after his statement was posted, Djokovic’s immediate family spoke to media in the Serbian capital of Belgrade, thanking fans for their support and praising Judge Anthony Kelly for his verdict.

Initially it was announced that the tennis ace would join his family virtually for the event, but he did not appear as planned.

“The whole process was not about tennis or the Australian Open, it was about justice for what was done to him,” his younger brother Djordie Djokovic, told media.

“Novak is only fighting for the liberty of choice,” he said, after personally thanking the Federal Circuit Court judge Kelly.

“We are grateful for justice system for Australia.”

His father Srdjan claimed his son’s human rights had been taken away, while his mother Dijana said the men’s tennis world number one was subjected to “torture”.

“This is his biggest win in his career, it is bigger than any grand slam,” she said.

“He has done nothing wrong, he hasn’t broken any of their laws.

“He has been subject to harassment.”

More to come.

It occurred to me yesterday that his bout of the bug about a month ago (or less), but have been extremely mild if he is ready to play an international tournament. Given how the slightest change in their bodies worries the elite athletes.

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

“I’m pleased and grateful that the Judge overturned my visa cancellation. Despite all that has happened,I want to stay and try to compete (at the) Australian Open,” he wrote.

“I remain focused on that.

“I flew here to play at one of the most important events we have in front of the amazing fans.”

On Monday a judge ruled Djokovic’s visa had been cancelled unfairly by Australian Border Force officials on his arrival to Melbourne last week but his ability to remain in the country remains unclear, with Immigration Minister Alex Hawke considering whether there are still grounds to cancel the tennis player’s visa.

Just after his statement was posted, Djokovic’s immediate family spoke to media in the Serbian capital of Belgrade, thanking fans for their support and praising Judge Anthony Kelly for his verdict.

Initially it was announced that the tennis ace would join his family virtually for the event, but he did not appear as planned.

“The whole process was not about tennis or the Australian Open, it was about justice for what was done to him,” his younger brother Djordie Djokovic, told media.

“Novak is only fighting for the liberty of choice,” he said, after personally thanking the Federal Circuit Court judge Kelly.

“We are grateful for justice system for Australia.”

His father Srdjan claimed his son’s human rights had been taken away, while his mother Dijana said the men’s tennis world number one was subjected to “torture”.

“This is his biggest win in his career, it is bigger than any grand slam,” she said.

“He has done nothing wrong, he hasn’t broken any of their laws.

“He has been subject to harassment.”

More to come.

It occurred to me yesterday that his bout of the bug about a month ago (or less), but have been extremely mild if he is ready to play an international tournament. Given how the slightest change in their bodies worries the elite athletes.

Yeah. I’d like to see his official test results if I was Alex Hawke.

buffy said:

It occurred to me yesterday that his bout of the bug about a month ago (or less), but have been extremely mild if he is ready to play an international tournament. Given how the slightest change in their bodies worries the elite athletes.

There is that.

There’s also ‘appearance money’.

He’ll be paid rather well for just turning up, even if he doesn’t score a single point on the court. But he won’t get the money if he doesn’t turn up.

If he feels that he needs the money…

Or maybe Serbia needs it. Some Serbian kingfish was squawking about how Australia was trying to ‘bring Serbia to its knees’.

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

It occurred to me yesterday that his bout of the bug about a month ago (or less), but have been extremely mild if he is ready to play an international tournament. Given how the slightest change in their bodies worries the elite athletes.

There is that.

There’s also ‘appearance money’.

He’ll be paid rather well for just turning up, even if he doesn’t score a single point on the court. But he won’t get the money if he doesn’t turn up.

If he feels that he needs the money…

Or maybe Serbia needs it. Some Serbian kingfish was squawking about how Australia was trying to ‘bring Serbia to its knees’.

If they have to rely on novax for revenue they must be in deep shit financially.

Here’s what Michelle Grattan has to say.

A sense of proportion is a very useful quality in politics. In the case of Novak Djokovic, the Morrison government has lost that sense entirely.

Late Monday in the Federal Circuit Court, Judge Anthony Kelly quashed last week’s cancellation of the tennis star’s visa, done on his arrival in Australia to play in the Australian Open.

The judge read a minute, agreed to by both sides, which said Djokovic wasn’t given sufficient opportunity to respond at the border (the saga went through the early hours when he couldn’t contact people).

With Djokovic’s court win, the government immediately faced an invidious choice – accept its humiliation or launch a fresh, hairy-chested offensive.

Immigration Minister Alex Hawke has the power to move, under his ministerial discretion, to cancel the now-restored visa.

On Monday night, a spokesman for Mr Hawke said “the minister is currently considering the matter and the process remains ongoing”.

Surely, it would have been better for the government to just cut its losses at once. The speaker of Serbia’s parliament, Ivica Dacic, made some sense in saying “the process should have ended when the court ruled”.
Most Australians – in a highly vaccinated population – would struggle with the tennis star’s resistance to the jab. It seems perverse and irresponsible.

Many would say he should not have been allowed to get on a plane to come to Australia, whether or not he had met the (unclear) technicalities of the medical exemption criteria.

All fair enough. But the government shenanigans after he was granted a visa and arrived at Melbourne airport blew the matter into a diplomatic incident and the theatre of the absurd.

Some commentators argue the government calculated that throwing Djokovic out would be a political distraction from the horrors of the escalating Omicron crisis.

But really? Would people struggling with illness, the search for tests, and the disruption to employment and businesses, have their attention so readily diverted? Certainly not for more than an instant.

Looked at rationally, it is near impossible to understand why the government chose to get itself into this mess. Or why it left things hanging after the court decision.

It would be a stretch to argue Djokovic is a danger to public health. Earlier in the pandemic, the unvaccinated player might have been a COVID risk – that is, when we had more or less “suppressed” the virus.

That’s hardly the case now, when the latest COVID wave is spreading – and being allowed by the authorities to spread – like wildfire.

The government may have wanted to use a tall poppy to reinforce that “tough-borders” message – you don’t get in if you don’t follow “the rules”, as Prime Minister Scott Morrison said.

But the evidence given in Monday’s court case indicated Djokovic arrived thinking he had followed the rules. And it turns out the government got its comeuppance from the court for not abiding by procedural rules.

Kelly declared during the hearing, “The point I’m somewhat agitated about is what more could this man have done” to comply with the rules.

Anyway, it defies common sense to believe Djokovic would have undertaken the trip unless he thought things were in order.

The federal and Victorian governments, Tennis Australia, Border Force and Djokovic himself all share responsibility for this inglorious episode, which has been laced with confusion.

Assuming Djokovic arrived on a sincere misapprehension, the sensible course would have been for the government to have found a way through rather than resorting to its heavy-handedness at the border.

This has made Australia look like hicksville, and been bad for the reputation of the Australian Open.

Serbia mightn’t be France, but its president can also pack a punch when national pride is at stake.

Turning Serbia’s national hero into Australia’s national villain has been harder than the government thought. It’s become an own goal for the government’s latest “operation sovereign borders” chapter.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-11/novak-djokovic-australia-government-urged-not-to-deport/100748848

Looks like the ABC now fully embrace the ant-vax cause.

Bubblecar said:

Looks like the ABC now fully embrace the ant-vax cause.

They changed sharply after the court case. A real about face.

As of this month, according to the Brookings Institution, only 5 per cent of people in low-income countries have been fully vaccinated, compared to 70 per cent in high-income countries.

Not all athletes are as forthright as Novak Djokovic. Most will not be comfortable declaring if they are unvaccinated, which might be through personal choice or political circumstance. Certainly, none of them would want to share Djokovic’s experience of detention, or the prospect of taking on the Australian government in a court of law to be able to play the game they came to contest.

But more than anything, outsiders are looking in and questioning whether Judge Kelly’s Australia, like democracies everywhere, is on the slide — where proportionality, legal reasonableness, and fairness still matter; where the rule of law is respected and upheld.

Read more: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-11/novak-djokovic-australia-visa-exemption-vaccine/100748810

They’ve done a bad job of Covid-related coverage in general.

I now don’t particularly care if they get privatised.

Bubblecar said:

They’ve done a bad job of Covid-related coverage in general.

I now don’t particularly care if they get privatised.

Pushed into a corner, you mean.
Frankly they have been going downhill ever since JWH tried to remove them.

Bubblecar said:

They’ve done a bad job of Covid-related coverage in general.

I now don’t particularly care if they get privatised.

How has their Covid coverage been wanting?

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-11/novak-djokovic-australia-government-urged-not-to-deport/100748848

looks like just reporting what has occurred.

JudgeMental said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-11/novak-djokovic-australia-government-urged-not-to-deport/100748848

looks like just reporting what has occurred.

Yeah it is going around and around as if there was something else to find.
It’s become a dead ball.

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-11/novak-djokovic-australia-government-urged-not-to-deport/100748848

looks like just reporting what has occurred.

Yeah it is going around and around as if there was something else to find.
It’s become a dead ball.

that’s just not tennis.

JudgeMental said:

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

looks like just reporting what has occurred.

Yeah it is going around and around as if there was something else to find.
It’s become a dead ball.

that’s just not tennis.

I’ll give points for that. ;)

He’s still a knob.

Woodie said:

He’s still a knob.

apparently to some he is something to adore.

Woodie said:

He’s still a knob.

Doubtlessly so.

JudgeMental said:

Woodie said:

He’s still a knob.

apparently to some he is something to adore.

Many do adore steaming knobs.

Were we wrong to expect this man to toe the line, saw the below on the ABC news website, I personally think it’s bollocks, but seemingly others don’t
We are in the middle of a pandemic but still expected to allow people with moronic views the freedom to be exempt from protective behaviours.
I’m certainly not pro government or the status quo but c’mon we could have had hundreds of million dead (worldwide) if we did nothing at all and take a long time to recover.

In the wake of Novak Djokovic’s detention, athletes can no longer unquestioningly believe Australia is a friendly, safe destination. Others are also wondering if Australia’s status as a democracy is on the slide, writes Tracey Holmes.

Cymek said:

Were we wrong to expect this man to toe the line, saw the below on the ABC news website, I personally think it’s bollocks, but seemingly others don’t
We are in the middle of a pandemic but still expected to allow people with moronic views the freedom to be exempt from protective behaviours.
I’m certainly not pro government or the status quo but c’mon we could have had hundreds of million dead (worldwide) if we did nothing at all and take a long time to recover.

In the wake of Novak Djokovic’s detention, athletes can no longer unquestioningly believe Australia is a friendly, safe destination. Others are also wondering if Australia’s status as a democracy is on the slide, writes Tracey Holmes.

Got news for you, Tracey: ain’t nowhere safe these days, honey.

Cymek said:

Were we wrong to expect this man to toe the line, saw the below on the ABC news website, I personally think it’s bollocks, but seemingly others don’t
We are in the middle of a pandemic but still expected to allow people with moronic views the freedom to be exempt from protective behaviours.
I’m certainly not pro government or the status quo but c’mon we could have had hundreds of million dead (worldwide) if we did nothing at all and take a long time to recover.

In the wake of Novak Djokovic’s detention, athletes can no longer unquestioningly believe Australia is a friendly, safe destination. Others are also wondering if Australia’s status as a democracy is on the slide, writes Tracey Holmes.

The ABC’s gone ga-ga.

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

Were we wrong to expect this man to toe the line, saw the below on the ABC news website, I personally think it’s bollocks, but seemingly others don’t
We are in the middle of a pandemic but still expected to allow people with moronic views the freedom to be exempt from protective behaviours.
I’m certainly not pro government or the status quo but c’mon we could have had hundreds of million dead (worldwide) if we did nothing at all and take a long time to recover.

In the wake of Novak Djokovic’s detention, athletes can no longer unquestioningly believe Australia is a friendly, safe destination. Others are also wondering if Australia’s status as a democracy is on the slide, writes Tracey Holmes.

Got news for you, Tracey: ain’t nowhere safe these days, honey.

Surely his detention made Australia a safer place.

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Were we wrong to expect this man to toe the line, saw the below on the ABC news website, I personally think it’s bollocks, but seemingly others don’t
We are in the middle of a pandemic but still expected to allow people with moronic views the freedom to be exempt from protective behaviours.
I’m certainly not pro government or the status quo but c’mon we could have had hundreds of million dead (worldwide) if we did nothing at all and take a long time to recover.

In the wake of Novak Djokovic’s detention, athletes can no longer unquestioningly believe Australia is a friendly, safe destination. Others are also wondering if Australia’s status as a democracy is on the slide, writes Tracey Holmes.

The ABC’s gone ga-ga.

nah they have a point, if you were travelling in from anywhere and you weren’t an athlete, you’d be screwed, but this is specifically about the safety of athletes

used to be that being good at sport was a get out of detention free card, that’s what made Australia safe for them

oh wait we guess what it shows is that it still is

Michael V said:

Great graphic.

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Were we wrong to expect this man to toe the line, saw the below on the ABC news website, I personally think it’s bollocks, but seemingly others don’t
We are in the middle of a pandemic but still expected to allow people with moronic views the freedom to be exempt from protective behaviours.
I’m certainly not pro government or the status quo but c’mon we could have had hundreds of million dead (worldwide) if we did nothing at all and take a long time to recover.

In the wake of Novak Djokovic’s detention, athletes can no longer unquestioningly believe Australia is a friendly, safe destination. Others are also wondering if Australia’s status as a democracy is on the slide, writes Tracey Holmes.

The ABC’s gone ga-ga.

When did Tracey Holmes start speaking for the entire ABC?

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Were we wrong to expect this man to toe the line, saw the below on the ABC news website, I personally think it’s bollocks, but seemingly others don’t
We are in the middle of a pandemic but still expected to allow people with moronic views the freedom to be exempt from protective behaviours.
I’m certainly not pro government or the status quo but c’mon we could have had hundreds of million dead (worldwide) if we did nothing at all and take a long time to recover.

In the wake of Novak Djokovic’s detention, athletes can no longer unquestioningly believe Australia is a friendly, safe destination. Others are also wondering if Australia’s status as a democracy is on the slide, writes Tracey Holmes.

The ABC’s gone ga-ga.

When did Tracey Holmes start speaking for the entire ABC?

where’s the usual necessary false balance then

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

The ABC’s gone ga-ga.

When did Tracey Holmes start speaking for the entire ABC?

where’s the usual necessary false balance then

Well Media Watch is on holiday at the moment, but one person expressing their own views on the ABC about a matter of close to zero importance doesn’t really need a balance anyway, false or otherwise.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Were we wrong to expect this man to toe the line, saw the below on the ABC news website, I personally think it’s bollocks, but seemingly others don’t
We are in the middle of a pandemic but still expected to allow people with moronic views the freedom to be exempt from protective behaviours.
I’m certainly not pro government or the status quo but c’mon we could have had hundreds of million dead (worldwide) if we did nothing at all and take a long time to recover.

In the wake of Novak Djokovic’s detention, athletes can no longer unquestioningly believe Australia is a friendly, safe destination. Others are also wondering if Australia’s status as a democracy is on the slide, writes Tracey Holmes.

The ABC’s gone ga-ga.

When did Tracey Holmes start speaking for the entire ABC?

since slippery slope arguments became de rigour.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

When did Tracey Holmes start speaking for the entire ABC?

where’s the usual necessary false balance then

Well Media Watch is on holiday at the moment, but one person expressing their own views on the ABC about a matter of close to zero importance doesn’t really need a balance anyway, false or otherwise.

The ABC in general seems enamoured of this Serbian anti-vax campaigner.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

When did Tracey Holmes start speaking for the entire ABC?

where’s the usual necessary false balance then

Well Media Watch is on holiday at the moment, but one person expressing their own views on the ABC about a matter of close to zero importance doesn’t really need a balance anyway, false or otherwise.

is pushing media attention on celebrity anti-vaccination positions successfully humiliating ostensible public health matters a matter of close to zero importance

yes we’re aware it is more a matter of border control

Whether or not I agree with Djokovic on some things, justice has spoken and has said that he has the right to participate in the Australian Open and I think it is the fairest decision to do so, if it has been resolved that way. I wish him the best of luck.

On a personal level, I’d much rather he didn’t play,” Nadal said, laughing along with interviewer.

everything is much better when the best can be playing

The most important institutions in the world say that the vaccine is the way to stop this pandemic and the disaster that we have been living for the last 20 months.

Apparently Australia’s status as a bastion of free-dumb is under threat from all this prioritising of public safety, which the ABC has been campaigning against by highlighting all the lives that have been blighted by lockdowns and other strictures.

SCIENCE said:

Whether or not I agree with Djokovic on some things, justice has spoken and has said that he has the right to participate in the Australian Open and I think it is the fairest decision to do so, if it has been resolved that way. I wish him the best of luck.

On a personal level, I’d much rather he didn’t play,” Nadal said, laughing along with interviewer.

everything is much better when the best can be playing

The most important institutions in the world say that the vaccine is the way to stop this pandemic and the disaster that we have been living for the last 20 months.

It’s a no brainer.. but then again who said there was in a sense anything common about that.

Bubblecar said:

Apparently Australia’s status as a bastion of free-dumb is under threat from all this prioritising of public safety, which the ABC has been campaigning against by highlighting all the lives that have been blighted by lockdowns and other strictures.

It’s a dead ball and that’s just not tennis. All credits to Boris.

Tamb said:

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

Were we wrong to expect this man to toe the line, saw the below on the ABC news website, I personally think it’s bollocks, but seemingly others don’t
We are in the middle of a pandemic but still expected to allow people with moronic views the freedom to be exempt from protective behaviours.
I’m certainly not pro government or the status quo but c’mon we could have had hundreds of million dead (worldwide) if we did nothing at all and take a long time to recover.

In the wake of Novak Djokovic’s detention, athletes can no longer unquestioningly believe Australia is a friendly, safe destination. Others are also wondering if Australia’s status as a democracy is on the slide, writes Tracey Holmes.

Got news for you, Tracey: ain’t nowhere safe these days, honey.

Surely his detention made Australia a safer place.

:)

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Apparently Australia’s status as a bastion of free-dumb is under threat from all this prioritising of public safety, which the ABC has been campaigning against by highlighting all the lives that have been blighted by lockdowns and other strictures.

It’s a dead ball and that’s just not tennis. All credits to Boris.

Bubblecar has a good point

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

Were we wrong to expect this man to toe the line, saw the below on the ABC news website, I personally think it’s bollocks, but seemingly others don’t
We are in the middle of a pandemic but still expected to allow people with moronic views the freedom to be exempt from protective behaviours.
I’m certainly not pro government or the status quo but c’mon we could have had hundreds of million dead (worldwide) if we did nothing at all and take a long time to recover.

In the wake of Novak Djokovic’s detention, athletes can no longer unquestioningly believe Australia is a friendly, safe destination. Others are also wondering if Australia’s status as a democracy is on the slide, writes Tracey Holmes.

The ABC’s gone ga-ga.

nah they have a point, if you were travelling in from anywhere and you weren’t an athlete, you’d be screwed, but this is specifically about the safety of athletes

used to be that being good at sport was a get out of detention free card, that’s what made Australia safe for them

oh wait we guess what it shows is that it still is

✅

Bubblecar said:

………………………… which the ABC has been campaigning against by highlighting all the lives that have been blighted by lockdowns and other strictures.

Including that one in Adelaide that whimpered “All I want is a cheeseburger”.

Or that mum that whinged that her kids vax appt got cancelled. At least they were working all weekend to ring her on Saturday to tell her that her Monday appt was cancelled.

FFS…. they’ve done without for two years, so what’s a cuppla days gunna matter? Or was it she had to cancel bingo, and is really pissed off to do so, to be able make the vax appointment?

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

The ABC’s gone ga-ga.

nah they have a point, if you were travelling in from anywhere and you weren’t an athlete, you’d be screwed, but this is specifically about the safety of athletes

used to be that being good at sport was a get out of detention free card, that’s what made Australia safe for them

oh wait we guess what it shows is that it still is

✅

Fillum ac-tors get the same treatment.

Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

………………………… which the ABC has been campaigning against by highlighting all the lives that have been blighted by lockdowns and other strictures.

Including that one in Adelaide that whimpered “All I want is a cheeseburger”.

Or that mum that whinged that her kids vax appt got cancelled. At least they were working all weekend to ring her on Saturday to tell her that her Monday appt was cancelled.

FFS…. they’ve done without for two years, so what’s a cuppla days gunna matter? Or was it she had to cancel bingo, and is really pissed off to do so, to be able make the vax appointment?

these aren’t actually news stories and the ABC isn’t solely a pure news outlet. they do human interest stories as well.

JudgeMental said:

Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

………………………… which the ABC has been campaigning against by highlighting all the lives that have been blighted by lockdowns and other strictures.

Including that one in Adelaide that whimpered “All I want is a cheeseburger”.

Or that mum that whinged that her kids vax appt got cancelled. At least they were working all weekend to ring her on Saturday to tell her that her Monday appt was cancelled.

FFS…. they’ve done without for two years, so what’s a cuppla days gunna matter? Or was it she had to cancel bingo, and is really pissed off to do so, to be able make the vax appointment?

these aren’t actually news stories and the ABC isn’t solely a pure news outlet. they do human interest stories as well.

Dunno about you but I have no interest in someone’s yearning for a cheeseburger.

Tamb said:

JudgeMental said:

Woodie said:

Including that one in Adelaide that whimpered “All I want is a cheeseburger”.

Or that mum that whinged that her kids vax appt got cancelled. At least they were working all weekend to ring her on Saturday to tell her that her Monday appt was cancelled.

FFS…. they’ve done without for two years, so what’s a cuppla days gunna matter? Or was it she had to cancel bingo, and is really pissed off to do so, to be able make the vax appointment?

these aren’t actually news stories and the ABC isn’t solely a pure news outlet. they do human interest stories as well.

Dunno about you but I have no interest in someone’s yearning for a cheeseburger.

don’t read those stories then.

JudgeMental said:

Tamb said:

JudgeMental said:

these aren’t actually news stories and the ABC isn’t solely a pure news outlet. they do human interest stories as well.

Dunno about you but I have no interest in someone’s yearning for a cheeseburger.

don’t read those stories then.

I didn’t. First became aware of it in a post here.

Tamb said:

JudgeMental said:

Tamb said:

Dunno about you but I have no interest in someone’s yearning for a cheeseburger.

don’t read those stories then.

I didn’t. First became aware of it in a post here.

this forum is full of trite human interest posts. what people eat, shopping, whinges that this product is good or bad etc. and these are read. i skip heaps of posts here that are just humdrum.

JudgeMental said:

these aren’t actually news stories and the ABC isn’t solely a pure news outlet. they do human interest stories as well.

It was a great little outlet for ‘journalists’ to write puff-pieces about their friends/friends’ lifestyles and to push some free national advertising for their friends’ businesses, in the guise of ‘human interest’ stories until several people (including me) complained about it.

It still goes on, but they’re at least a bit more subtle about it.

JudgeMental said:

Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

………………………… which the ABC has been campaigning against by highlighting all the lives that have been blighted by lockdowns and other strictures.

Including that one in Adelaide that whimpered “All I want is a cheeseburger”.

Or that mum that whinged that her kids vax appt got cancelled. At least they were working all weekend to ring her on Saturday to tell her that her Monday appt was cancelled.

FFS…. they’ve done without for two years, so what’s a cuppla days gunna matter? Or was it she had to cancel bingo, and is really pissed off to do so, to be able make the vax appointment?

these aren’t actually news stories and the ABC isn’t solely a pure news outlet. they do human interest stories as well.

These sorts of things are ABC mainstream TV “news”.

Just like the footage of 10 or so anti-vaxers walking round in circles in Toronto, Canada, that went on for a few minutes. Why is that even making “news” here??

…. and I do exercise my judgement, Mr Mental, and soon as that crap starts, it “click” off to something else. Both TV and radio.

JudgeMental said:

Tamb said:

JudgeMental said:

don’t read those stories then.

I didn’t. First became aware of it in a post here.

this forum is full of trite human interest posts. what people eat, shopping, whinges that this product is good or bad etc. and these are read. i skip heaps of posts here that are just humdrum.

This forum is not a “news” outlet, although some seem to think it is their own branch or Reuters or AAP.

JudgeMental said:

Tamb said:

JudgeMental said:

don’t read those stories then.

I didn’t. First became aware of it in a post here.

this forum is full of trite human interest posts. what people eat, shopping, whinges that this product is good or bad etc. and these are read. i skip heaps of posts here that are just humdrum.

The difference is, we’re not being funded with taxpayers dollars to supposedly present an even-handed reporting of actaul news.

Woodie said:

JudgeMental said:

Tamb said:

I didn’t. First became aware of it in a post here.

this forum is full of trite human interest posts. what people eat, shopping, whinges that this product is good or bad etc. and these are read. i skip heaps of posts here that are just humdrum.

This forum is not a “news” outlet, although some seem to think it is their own branch or Reuters or AAP.

To be fair not much nonsense is posted

Woodie said:

JudgeMental said:

Woodie said:

Including that one in Adelaide that whimpered “All I want is a cheeseburger”.

Or that mum that whinged that her kids vax appt got cancelled. At least they were working all weekend to ring her on Saturday to tell her that her Monday appt was cancelled.

FFS…. they’ve done without for two years, so what’s a cuppla days gunna matter? Or was it she had to cancel bingo, and is really pissed off to do so, to be able make the vax appointment?

these aren’t actually news stories and the ABC isn’t solely a pure news outlet. they do human interest stories as well.

These sorts of things are ABC mainstream TV “news”.

Just like the footage of 10 or so anti-vaxers walking round in circles in Toronto, Canada, that went on for a few minutes. Why is that even making “news” here??

…. and I do exercise my judgement, Mr Mental, and soon as that crap starts, it “click” off to something else. Both TV and radio.

some people like this stuff. look at all the dross on FTA. it is why i don’t have a tv and i listen to the community radio. I watch youtube where I look at videos that interest me.

Woodie said:

JudgeMental said:

Tamb said:

I didn’t. First became aware of it in a post here.

this forum is full of trite human interest posts. what people eat, shopping, whinges that this product is good or bad etc. and these are read. i skip heaps of posts here that are just humdrum.

This forum is not a “news” outlet, although some seem to think it is their own branch or Reuters or AAP.

and news covers a very wide range of topics.

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

Tamb said:

I didn’t. First became aware of it in a post here.

this forum is full of trite human interest posts. what people eat, shopping, whinges that this product is good or bad etc. and these are read. i skip heaps of posts here that are just humdrum.

The difference is, we’re not being funded with taxpayers dollars to supposedly present an even-handed reporting of actaul news.

correct and the abc isn’t solely funded by you tax dollar either.

Cymek said:

Woodie said:

JudgeMental said:

this forum is full of trite human interest posts. what people eat, shopping, whinges that this product is good or bad etc. and these are read. i skip heaps of posts here that are just humdrum.

This forum is not a “news” outlet, although some seem to think it is their own branch or Reuters or AAP.

To be fair not much nonsense is posted

to be fair there is a lot. of course that is my opinion. some here may love it.

JudgeMental said:

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

this forum is full of trite human interest posts. what people eat, shopping, whinges that this product is good or bad etc. and these are read. i skip heaps of posts here that are just humdrum.

The difference is, we’re not being funded with taxpayers dollars to supposedly present an even-handed reporting of actaul news.

correct and the abc isn’t solely funded by you tax dollar either.

your

Woodie said:

JudgeMental said:

Woodie said:

Including that one in Adelaide that whimpered “All I want is a cheeseburger”.

Or that mum that whinged that her kids vax appt got cancelled. At least they were working all weekend to ring her on Saturday to tell her that her Monday appt was cancelled.

FFS…. they’ve done without for two years, so what’s a cuppla days gunna matter? Or was it she had to cancel bingo, and is really pissed off to do so, to be able make the vax appointment?

these aren’t actually news stories and the ABC isn’t solely a pure news outlet. they do human interest stories as well.

These sorts of things are ABC mainstream TV “news”.

Just like the footage of 10 or so anti-vaxers walking round in circles in Toronto, Canada, that went on for a few minutes. Why is that even making “news” here??

…. and I do exercise my judgement, Mr Mental, and soon as that crap starts, it “click” off to something else. Both TV and radio.

It’s the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.

Michael V said:

Woodie said:

JudgeMental said:

these aren’t actually news stories and the ABC isn’t solely a pure news outlet. they do human interest stories as well.

These sorts of things are ABC mainstream TV “news”.

Just like the footage of 10 or so anti-vaxers walking round in circles in Toronto, Canada, that went on for a few minutes. Why is that even making “news” here??

…. and I do exercise my judgement, Mr Mental, and soon as that crap starts, it “click” off to something else. Both TV and radio.

It’s the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.

which is logical if you look at it logically. though a proper service routine would probably result in it not squeaking in the first place.

Watching the tennis today, and realised that these players aren’t drug tested.

If we drug tested Novac, what do you think would happen?

mollwollfumble said:

Watching the tennis today, and realised that these players aren’t drug tested.

If we drug tested Novac, what do you think would happen?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_in_tennis

JudgeMental said:

mollwollfumble said:

Watching the tennis today, and realised that these players aren’t drug tested.

If we drug tested Novac, what do you think would happen?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_in_tennis

Lol.. nearly everyone pinged was spiked/inadvertent use

mollwollfumble said:

Watching the tennis today, and realised that these players aren’t drug tested.

If we drug tested Novac, what do you think would happen?

Not drug-tested?

How did you get that notion?

Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

Watching the tennis today, and realised that these players aren’t drug tested.

If we drug tested Novac, what do you think would happen?

Not drug-tested?

How did you get that notion?

Many have asked Moll that and all went mad. Quite mad indeed.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

Watching the tennis today, and realised that these players aren’t drug tested.

If we drug tested Novac, what do you think would happen?

Not drug-tested?

How did you get that notion?

Many have asked Moll that and all went mad. Quite mad indeed.

In what way?

OK. Does this mean the declaration had untruths on it?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-11/questions-novak-djokovic-travel-entry-form-australia/100750334

‘He is not a criminal’: Djokovic’s mother pleads with Australia to let her son stay

roughbarked said:

‘He is not a criminal’: Djokovic’s mother pleads with Australia to let her son stay

“He didn’t know, probably. He didn’t know because when he realised he was positive he go to isolation because he didn’t know,” his mother said.

“I really cannot say anything about that. It’s maybe the best to ask him.”

A mother should know.

“He hasn’t murdered”.

I mean since he’s unvaccinated, never wears a mask, HTF could she know how many he’s murdered?

roughbarked said:

‘He is not a criminal’: Djokovic’s mother pleads with Australia to let her son stay

Technically anti vax public figures with influence over the addled masses could be considered a health threat

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

‘He is not a criminal’: Djokovic’s mother pleads with Australia to let her son stay

Technically anti vax public figures with influence over the addled masses could be considered a health threat

regardless criminals are not the only people Australia excludes from visiting so the relevance

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

‘He is not a criminal’: Djokovic’s mother pleads with Australia to let her son stay

Technically anti vax public figures with influence over the addled masses could be considered a health threat

They could have refused him entry purely on grounds of being an anti-vax spokesman and thus an undesirable visitor.

I don’t know why they didn’t.

captain_spalding said:

Perhaps the biggest reason he’s upset is if he’s deported is he can’t win prize money

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Perhaps the biggest reason he’s upset is if he’s deported is he can’t win prize money

Or, as i mentioned recently, even pick up the nice little bundle of appearance money that he’d get, even if he didn’t score a single point on the court.

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

‘He is not a criminal’: Djokovic’s mother pleads with Australia to let her son stay

Technically anti vax public figures with influence over the addled masses could be considered a health threat

They could have refused him entry purely on grounds of being an anti-vax spokesman and thus an undesirable visitor.

I don’t know why they didn’t.

they agree with him

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Perhaps the biggest reason he’s upset is if he’s deported is he can’t win prize money

Or, as i mentioned recently, even pick up the nice little bundle of appearance money that he’d get, even if he didn’t score a single point on the court.

Then there’s the fact that if he’s deported, that gives Nadal and Federer a three year window in which to gain the record before him. It all hinges on this.

Novak Djokovic releases statement, admits “human error” mistake on immigration form

Djokovic says a mistake on his immigration form about travelling abroad before arriving in Australia was “human error” and “not deliberate”.

In a six-panel post on his Instagram page, Djokovic said he wanted to “address the continuing misinformation” about his attendance at events in December after he had tested positive for COVID.

He says he took a rapid antigen test, which returned a negative result, on December 16 after attending a basketball game in Belgrade on December 14 at which a number of people tested positive.

He also took a PCR test on the same day.

The following day (December 17) he attended the tennis event where he presented trophies to children after taking another rapid antigen test which was also negative.

He received the result of his PCR test, which was positive, after that event.

He says the day after (December 18) that he had “long-standing commitment” to complete an interview with l’Equipe as he felt “obliged” and he wore a mask the whole time except when the photo was taken.

He admits this was “an error of judgement”.

As for his travel declaration, he says this was completed by his support team and that his agent “sincerely apologises for the administrative mistake in ticking the incorrect box”, adding that it was a “human error”.

He says his team has provided additional information to the Australian Government on this matter.

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From here:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-12/novak-djokovic-decision-live-updates/100751136

buffy said:

Novak Djokovic releases statement, admits “human error” mistake on immigration form

As for his travel declaration, he says this was completed by his support team and that his agent “sincerely apologises for the administrative mistake in ticking the incorrect box”, adding that it was a “human error”.

You see that sort of human error on those ‘border force’ TV programmes all the time.

The error being that they thought they could get away with it.

I don’t understand why everyone is still talking about this non-issue. Keeping Djokovic out at the time his visa was cancelled was only protecting him from us. If we must still discuss this, perhaps we can focus on the disparity between an elite tennis player and a 24 year old refugee who has been locked up here since he was a 15 year-old boy.

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

Novak Djokovic releases statement, admits “human error” mistake on immigration form

As for his travel declaration, he says this was completed by his support team and that his agent “sincerely apologises for the administrative mistake in ticking the incorrect box”, adding that it was a “human error”.

You see that sort of human error on those ‘border force’ TV programmes all the time.

The error being that they thought they could get away with it.

me no spika da inglese.

Speedy said:

I don’t understand why everyone is still talking about this non-issue. Keeping Djokovic out at the time his visa was cancelled was only protecting him from us. If we must still discuss this, perhaps we can focus on the disparity between an elite tennis player and a 24 year old refugee who has been locked up here since he was a 15 year-old boy.

Agree that the fate of all refugees are of far more import than a tennis wanker.

Serbian Prime Minister Ana Brnabić said on Tuesday Djokovic would have “clearly violated the rules” if had he known his test result before he participated in the events, but she added: “I don’t know when he received the test result, when he read it.”

we mean hey if you win in sport but are illiterate so never read about your nandrolone being uh not so win then yeah all good

Novak Djokovic’s visa fiasco is a fitting drama for Australia’s summer of discontent

By Michael E. Miller and Frances Vinall
Yesterday at 3:49 a.m. EST

MELBOURNE, Australia — This was supposed to be Australia’s glorious hot vax summer, with open borders, open businesses and an Australian Open marking a return to normal after two years of the pandemic.

Instead it is a season of discontent Down Under, with a government already under pressure over its handling of a wave of the omicron coronavirus variant now also facing blowback over its treatment of tennis star Novak Djokovic.

A day after an Australian judge ordered Djokovic released from immigration detention, ending a five-day standoff over his eligibility to enter the country, dark clouds still hung over his participation in the tournament, which starts Monday. The government has threatened to again cancel his visa and deport the Serbian athlete, who is hoping to make history with his 21st men’s singles Grand Slam title.

Novak Djokovic wins case against Australia over canceled visa, clearing path for him to play in Melbourne

Australian Immigration Minister Alex Hawke confirmed Tuesday he was still considering whether to expel Djokovic, and local media reported that officials have launched a new investigation into whether he lied on his border entry forms.

But with soaring coronavirus cases, testing delays, canceled vaccine appointments and supply disruptions depleting grocery shelves, even some Australians angry over Djokovic’s arrival argue the government would be better off focusing its attention elsewhere.

“The shortages are definitely more important than the Australian Open,” said Vincent Roly, 24, as he stood in the near-empty meat aisle of a Melbourne grocery store.

Empty shelves in the meat aisle of a Woolworths supermarket in Melbourne on Jan. 11. (Courtesy of Frances Vinall)
With its strange twists, the sporting scandal has felt like an extension to an up-and-down summer in Australia, where sky-high vaccination rates had raised hopes that the worst of the pandemic was in the past.

But now the country is enduring one of the world’s sharpest spikes in coronavirus infections with more than 90,000 new cases Tuesday — roughly 10 times the tally two weeks ago. Long lines for PCR testing and a shortage of rapid antigen tests mean the true number could be far higher. Hospitals are starting to fill up, and covid-19 deaths are on the rise.

For parts of Australia that had previously escaped the pandemic, now is the first time many people are being confronted with the real possibility of catching the virus. For Melbourne, which has endured more time in lockdown than any other city on Earth and seen the most covid-19 deaths in the nation, however, a much-needed summer vacation has started to feel like a 2021 hangover.

Need a covid test in Australia? Good luck — or try importing one from 8,000 miles away.

Huge numbers of sick or isolating workers have hit supply chains, leaving groceries struggling to fill the shelves. Some supermarkets have restricted the amount of meat Australians can buy to throw on their barbies.

Adding to the unexpected gloom is La Niña, a weather phenomenon that has brought wetter-than-average conditions to eastern Australia.

The Australian Open had hoped to welcome international tourists, only for the omicron variant to scupper the border opening. Then the “Happy Slam,” as it is known, became embroiled in controversy last week when Djokovic was detained at Melbourne Airport.

Djokovic, who is unvaccinated, had been given a medical exemption from the tournament and Victoria state to participate in the Open. But that exemption wasn’t valid for entering the country, federal officials said. Australia requires foreign visitors to be vaccinated or have a valid medical exemption.

The tennis star was kept largely incommunicado overnight at the airport before being transferred to a hotel used to house detained asylum seekers, some of who have complained about the conditions. Djokovic’s family claimed he was being “tortured.” The Serbian president said the athlete was the victim of a “witch hunt.” One Australian columnist called it “a Kafkaesque border shambles.”

Some Australians, especially Serbian immigrants, saw Djokovic’s treatment as symptomatic of the country’s tight coronavirus restrictions.

“People are leaving Australia, especially people who don’t want to get vaccinated,” said Desa Gudelj, 55, as she joined hundreds of other mostly Serbian-born protesters outside the Park Hotel on Sunday night.

‘Rules are rules’: Australia cancels Novak Djokovic’s visa amid vaccine exemption uproar

The majority were against him entering the country, polls show, perhaps explaining why Prime Minister Scott Morrison appeared to lean into the Border Force’s decision to expel Djokovic. Yet even some of the Serbian athlete’s critics came away from Monday’s hearing believing that it was the Australian government that had embarrassed itself.

“I don’t think he should have been allowed to come here in the first place,” said Karla Zulich, a 45-year-old lab worker at the Alfred Hospital in Melbourne who was brought in to address virus-related staffing shortages. “However, I do think the way he was treated was incredibly disappointing from our government — it was a massive bungle.”

At the Melbourne Park sports complex, where qualifying matches for the Open were underway, tennis fans were torn over Djokovic’s treatment.

Spectators walk through a cooling station at Melbourne Park on Jan. 11 during qualifiers for the Australian Open, which begins next week. (Michael E. Miller for The Washington Post)
Darren Barnes, whose foster son was serving as a ballboy, said he had to be double-vaccinated for his job at a car dealership. So how could Djokovic get into Australia without a single dose? He and his foster son would isolate on their farm when they got home, just to be safe, he said.

“To me it’s very strange,” the 60-year-old said of the demonstrations in support of Djokovic, one of which turned violent on Monday when fans thought police were detaining the tennis player. “People just got tired of being locked up and now they are using any excuse so they can get out and make a scene.”

But Gary Salt said the saga had left him confused and frustrated with the government.

“I find it ridiculous,” the 36-year-old said on his way to visit a friend at a match. “They told him he couldn’t get in, and then he gets an exemption. Just like they said if we got vaccinated, the number of cases would go down. Now we’re all vaccinated, and cases are going up.”

Rafael Nadal welcomes Novak Djokovic to Australian Open but calls vaccine debate a ‘circus’

“It’s a bit embarrassing for the Australian government,” said Fleur Dowker, 38, of the Djokovic debacle. The pandemic had prevented her from seeing her parents in New Zealand, but she said that with more than 90 percent of eligible Australians fully vaccinated, the country should focus on problems like the food shortages, testing issues, or vaccines for her two boys, ages 10 and 11, not a single tennis player.

“Leave the poor guy alone,” she said. “We’re here to watch tennis, not to get caught up in drama.”

The drama continues, however, with the threat to deport Djokovic hanging over him and the tournament, which has already seen some star players test positive.

Djokovic hasn’t said much about his ordeal since his release, aside from two tweets thanking the judge for his decision and fans for their support. But the photo attached to one tweet spoke volumes. It showed the tennis star on the Australian Open’s main court on Monday night, just hours after his release.

On Tuesday, someone who looked like Djokovic again took to the court for practice, only for the arena’s cameras to suddenly cut away to a screen saver of a snowman skiing around a blank screen.

It was one more odd twist in an Australian summer already full of them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/01/11/novak-djokovic-australia-covid-omicron/?

“Is it too late to nominate Rebecca Maddern and Mike Amor for Australians of the year?” the tennis star “fell over his own lies” before adding, “I think he’s going to get away with it.”

roughbarked said:

‘He is not a criminal’: Djokovic’s mother pleads with Australia to let her son stay

funny method of dealing with not-criminals as suggested by lawyers

Novak Djokovic could face a fine or even prison in Serbia after his admission that he broke isolation while he had Covid last month, lawyers have said, as the Serbian prime minister warned his behaviour appeared to be “a clear breach” of the rules.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/12/novak-djokovic-faces-fine-or-prison-for-breaking-isolation-while-covid-positive

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

‘He is not a criminal’: Djokovic’s mother pleads with Australia to let her son stay

funny method of dealing with not-criminals as suggested by lawyers

Novak Djokovic could face a fine or even prison in Serbia after his admission that he broke isolation while he had Covid last month, lawyers have said, as the Serbian prime minister warned his behaviour appeared to be “a clear breach” of the rules.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/12/novak-djokovic-faces-fine-or-prison-for-breaking-isolation-while-covid-positive

Ha!

:)

A couple of news presenters saying what they think about it.

Video on Twitter

Is Djokovic “a risk to the health, safety or good order of the Australian community or a segment of the Australian community”, as stated in the immigration act?

SCIENCE said:

Is Djokovic “a risk to the health, safety or good order of the Australian community or a segment of the Australian community”, as stated in the immigration act?

Does he have Covid?

SCIENCE said:

Is Djokovic “a risk to the health, safety or good order of the Australian community or a segment of the Australian community”, as stated in the immigration act?

Yes.

SCIENCE said:

Is Djokovic “a risk to the health, safety or good order of the Australian community or a segment of the Australian community”, as stated in the immigration act?

IDK man

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

Is Djokovic “a risk to the health, safety or good order of the Australian community or a segment of the Australian community”, as stated in the immigration act?

Yes.

Will Sibeen go postal if Djokovic is allowed to play?

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

Is Djokovic “a risk to the health, safety or good order of the Australian community or a segment of the Australian community”, as stated in the immigration act?

Yes.

Will Sibeen go postal if Djokovic is allowed to play?

I will not be happy. This affects my mental health and well being.

SCIENCE said:

Is Djokovic “a risk to the health, safety or good order of the Australian community or a segment of the Australian community”, as stated in the immigration act?

Subject to subsections (2) and (3), the Minister may cancel a visa if he or she is satisfied that:

(h) the visa holder or applicant is clearly a knob.

Seriously though, he has publicly stated he’s opposed to vaccination and he’s been adopted as a hero by local anti-vax activists.

That in itself arguably makes him an undesirable visitor from a public health point of view.

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

Is Djokovic “a risk to the health, safety or good order of the Australian community or a segment of the Australian community”, as stated in the immigration act?

Yes.

Will Sibeen go postal if Djokovic is allowed to play?

Should he read Tracey Holme’s latest?

Bubblecar said:

SCIENCE said:

Is Djokovic “a risk to the health, safety or good order of the Australian community or a segment of the Australian community”, as stated in the immigration act?

Subject to subsections (2) and (3), the Minister may cancel a visa if he or she is satisfied that:

(h) the visa holder or applicant is clearly a knob.

Seriously though, he has publicly stated he’s opposed to vaccination and he’s been adopted as a hero by local anti-vax activists.

That in itself arguably makes him an undesirable visitor from a public health point of view.

And even the newsreaders think he’s a “lying, sneaky arsehole”.

sibeen said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

Yes.

Will Sibeen go postal if Djokovic is allowed to play?

I will not be happy. This affects my mental health and well being.

He’s definitely a threat to sibeen’s health.

waves to Ms Buffy.

That’s episode 6 binged……. on to episode 7.

Gotta get this done before new series on Satdee night. 😁

I’ll give you no spoilers. 😁

Woodie said:

waves to Ms Buffy.

That’s episode 6 binged……. on to episode 7.

Gotta get this done before new series on Satdee night. 😁

I’ll give you no spoilers. 😁

hey Woodie! We just watched S1 Ep1 (The Husbands). Decided not to binge. We are going to savour them one at a time. I love it! Mr buffy stayed and watched the whole episode. Can’t be too bad…

buffy said:

Woodie said:

waves to Ms Buffy.

That’s episode 6 binged……. on to episode 7.

Gotta get this done before new series on Satdee night. 😁

I’ll give you no spoilers. 😁

hey Woodie! We just watched S1 Ep1 (The Husbands). Decided not to binge. We are going to savour them one at a time. I love it! Mr buffy stayed and watched the whole episode. Can’t be too bad…

Oh what a web we weave, so they saying goes.

On to episode 8.

…… and it’s very easy to follow too.

Woodie said:

buffy said:

Woodie said:

waves to Ms Buffy.

That’s episode 6 binged……. on to episode 7.

Gotta get this done before new series on Satdee night. 😁

I’ll give you no spoilers. 😁

hey Woodie! We just watched S1 Ep1 (The Husbands). Decided not to binge. We are going to savour them one at a time. I love it! Mr buffy stayed and watched the whole episode. Can’t be too bad…

Oh what a web we weave, so they saying goes.

On to episode 8.

…… and it’s very easy to follow too.

“Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practise to deceive.” I wrote a good essay with that as the topic for a HSC practice exam. I probably still have it somewhere. Some things I hoard.

And until right now I’d never bothered to find out where it came from. Sir Walter Scott, apparently. Marmion.