There you go. I haven’t got anything to put into it though.

buffy said:

There you go. I haven’t got anything to put into it though.

What’s the latest on the Serb?

Tamb said:

buffy said:

There you go. I haven’t got anything to put into it though.

What’s the latest on the Serb?

Scomo’s told him to ^FUCK OFF*

Tamb said:

buffy said:

There you go. I haven’t got anything to put into it though.

What’s the latest on the Serb?

Someone in his office has lost their job for getting the wrong visa.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/covid-restrictions-tighten-in-victoria-to-slow-spread-of-omicron/100741342

You know…I’m not sure people are going to bother reporting their positive RATs. Just another layer of complexity. And how on earth do you police that they are reporting anyway?

buffy said:

Tamb said:

buffy said:

There you go. I haven’t got anything to put into it though.

What’s the latest on the Serb?

Someone in his office has lost their job for getting the wrong visa.

:)

Quite likely.

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/covid-restrictions-tighten-in-victoria-to-slow-spread-of-omicron/100741342

You know…I’m not sure people are going to bother reporting their positive RATs. Just another layer of complexity. And how on earth do you police that they are reporting anyway?

The announcement of the restrictions comes a fortnight after density limits and the closure of indoor dancefloors were recommended by the Chief Health Officer as the state headed towards Christmas and New Year celebrations.

Tsk, tsk, tsk.

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/covid-restrictions-tighten-in-victoria-to-slow-spread-of-omicron/100741342

You know…I’m not sure people are going to bother reporting their positive RATs. Just another layer of complexity. And how on earth do you police that they are reporting anyway?

if those making noises about any sort of testing were serious they’d highlight the objective being for contraction of covid numbers

if the availability of any testing isn’t to shrink the numbers then it’s near useless, more likely resulting in, if not intended, to facilitate increasing numbers

if testing was implemented properly containment potential would be demonstrated, if covid numbers kept shrinking you’d eventually eliminate it

there are people out there that would find no covid or very low levels much more inconvenient than any high level of prevalence

work of the devil it is

transition said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/covid-restrictions-tighten-in-victoria-to-slow-spread-of-omicron/100741342

You know…I’m not sure people are going to bother reporting their positive RATs. Just another layer of complexity. And how on earth do you police that they are reporting anyway?

if those making noises about any sort of testing were serious they’d highlight the objective being for contraction of covid numbers

if the availability of any testing isn’t to shrink the numbers then it’s near useless, more likely resulting in, if not intended, to facilitate increasing numbers

if testing was implemented properly containment potential would be demonstrated, if covid numbers kept shrinking you’d eventually eliminate it

there are people out there that would find no covid or very low levels much more inconvenient than any high level of prevalence

work of the devil it is

It does come across as too late once you go for testing and its positive, I suppose it stops any more infections from a person if they isolate but they may have infected many before getting a test.
Bit of a piece of mind it seems for a lot of a people

transition said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/covid-restrictions-tighten-in-victoria-to-slow-spread-of-omicron/100741342

You know…I’m not sure people are going to bother reporting their positive RATs. Just another layer of complexity. And how on earth do you police that they are reporting anyway?

if those making noises about any sort of testing were serious they’d highlight the objective being for contraction of covid numbers

if the availability of any testing isn’t to shrink the numbers then it’s near useless, more likely resulting in, if not intended, to facilitate increasing numbers

if testing was implemented properly containment potential would be demonstrated, if covid numbers kept shrinking you’d eventually eliminate it

there are people out there that would find no covid or very low levels much more inconvenient than any high level of prevalence

work of the devil it is

It does come across as too late once you go for testing and its positive, I suppose it stops any more infections from a person if they isolate but they may have infected many before getting a test.
Bit of a piece of mind it seems for a lot of a people

transition said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/covid-restrictions-tighten-in-victoria-to-slow-spread-of-omicron/100741342

You know…I’m not sure people are going to bother reporting their positive RATs. Just another layer of complexity. And how on earth do you police that they are reporting anyway?

if those making noises about any sort of testing were serious they’d highlight the objective being for contraction of covid numbers

if the availability of any testing isn’t to shrink the numbers then it’s near useless, more likely resulting in, if not intended, to facilitate increasing numbers

if testing was implemented properly containment potential would be demonstrated, if covid numbers kept shrinking you’d eventually eliminate it

there are people out there that would find no covid or very low levels much more inconvenient than any high level of prevalence

work of the devil it is

It does come across as too late once you go for testing and its positive, I suppose it stops any more infections from a person if they isolate but they may have infected many before getting a test.
Bit of a piece of mind it seems for a lot of a people

why do a test if you don’t care about the result

SCIENCE said:

why do a test if you don’t care about the result

I’ve been tested once as I felt unwell and work asked me to.
It was highly unlikely I had it being in WA.

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

why do a test if you don’t care about the result

I’ve been tested once as I felt unwell and work asked me to.
It was highly unlikely I had it being in WA.

Anyway I get my booster tomorrow morning, have the weekend to rest if I feel crap.

Cymek said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

why do a test if you don’t care about the result

I’ve been tested once as I felt unwell and work asked me to.
It was highly unlikely I had it being in WA.

Anyway I get my booster tomorrow morning, have the weekend to rest if I feel crap.

yeah we are happy with people testing if they care about it, what we’re saying is, the rush on rapid tests isn’t in our view likely to be people who don’t give a shit about testing

Cymek said:

transition said:

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/covid-restrictions-tighten-in-victoria-to-slow-spread-of-omicron/100741342

You know…I’m not sure people are going to bother reporting their positive RATs. Just another layer of complexity. And how on earth do you police that they are reporting anyway?

if those making noises about any sort of testing were serious they’d highlight the objective being for contraction of covid numbers

if the availability of any testing isn’t to shrink the numbers then it’s near useless, more likely resulting in, if not intended, to facilitate increasing numbers

if testing was implemented properly containment potential would be demonstrated, if covid numbers kept shrinking you’d eventually eliminate it

there are people out there that would find no covid or very low levels much more inconvenient than any high level of prevalence

work of the devil it is

It does come across as too late once you go for testing and its positive, I suppose it stops any more infections from a person if they isolate but they may have infected many before getting a test.
Bit of a piece of mind it seems for a lot of a people

if testing isn’t demonstrably for the purpose of containment, then it’s serving some other purpose

transition said:

Cymek said:

transition said:

if those making noises about any sort of testing were serious they’d highlight the objective being for contraction of covid numbers

if the availability of any testing isn’t to shrink the numbers then it’s near useless, more likely resulting in, if not intended, to facilitate increasing numbers

if testing was implemented properly containment potential would be demonstrated, if covid numbers kept shrinking you’d eventually eliminate it

there are people out there that would find no covid or very low levels much more inconvenient than any high level of prevalence

work of the devil it is

It does come across as too late once you go for testing and its positive, I suppose it stops any more infections from a person if they isolate but they may have infected many before getting a test.
Bit of a piece of mind it seems for a lot of a people

if testing isn’t demonstrably for the purpose of containment, then it’s serving some other purpose

At $25/RAT one does wonder.

Tamb said:

transition said:

Cymek said:

It does come across as too late once you go for testing and its positive, I suppose it stops any more infections from a person if they isolate but they may have infected many before getting a test.
Bit of a piece of mind it seems for a lot of a people

if testing isn’t demonstrably for the purpose of containment, then it’s serving some other purpose

At $25/RAT one does wonder.

with Corruption in charge we don’t think anyone has to wonder

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

transition said:

if testing isn’t demonstrably for the purpose of containment, then it’s serving some other purpose

At $25/RAT one does wonder.

with Corruption in charge we don’t think anyone has to wonder

the mischief isn’t just local, it also involves influence from abroad, the parochial locals are an offering

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

At $25/RAT one does wonder.

with Corruption in charge we don’t think anyone has to wonder

the mischief isn’t just local, it also involves influence from abroad, the parochial locals are an offering

or I should have said the mischief is not just domestic

The Shovel:

‘ Morrison to close all public hospitals to avoid undercutting private enterprise

Saying private hospitals needed confidence they wouldn’t be undercut by free alternatives, the Prime Minister today announced that the government will permanently close all public hospitals this Friday.’

captain_spalding said:

The Shovel:

‘ Morrison to close all public hospitals to avoid undercutting private enterprise

Saying private hospitals needed confidence they wouldn’t be undercut by free alternatives, the Prime Minister today announced that the government will permanently close all public hospitals this Friday.’

why not go all the way and shut government, have no government, leave it all to markets, the natural democracy of the markets, but I guess people would self regulate, self-organize, create one (a government) different to the one we have

captain_spalding said:

The Shovel:

‘ Morrison to close all public hospitals to avoid undercutting private enterprise

Saying private hospitals needed confidence they wouldn’t be undercut by free alternatives, the Prime Minister today announced that the government will permanently close all public hospitals this Friday.’

LOL

“NSW Health has also confirmed that a man in his 20s from Canberra has died with COVID-19 at St Vincent’s Hospital in Sydney. He had received two doses of a vaccine and had no underlying health conditions.”

———————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
COVID still a killer…
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/covid-live-blog-latest-updates-omicron-rats-national-cabinet/100740598

Michael V said:

transition said:

captain_spalding said:

transition said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

transition said:

if testing isn’t demonstrably for the purpose of containment, then it’s serving some other purpose

At $25/RAT one does wonder.

with Corruption in charge we don’t think anyone has to wonder

the mischief isn’t just local, it also involves influence from abroad, the parochial locals are an offering

or I should have said the mischief is not just domestic

The Shovel:

‘ Morrison to close all public hospitals to avoid undercutting private enterprise

Saying private hospitals needed confidence they wouldn’t be undercut by free alternatives, the Prime Minister today announced that the government will permanently close all public hospitals this Friday.’

why not go all the way and shut government, have no government, leave it all to markets, the natural democracy of the markets, but I guess people would self regulate, self-organize, create one (a government) different to the one we have

LOL

^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^

Hey, i’m supposed to be dead!

Didn’t Bill show us a post from an anti-vaxxer the other day, who said that when 5G ‘went live’ on 05 Jaqn, all us vaccinated folks would keel over dead?

‘Prove me wrong’ he said.

Whaddya reckon?

captain_spalding said:

Hey, i’m supposed to be dead!

Didn’t Bill show us a post from an anti-vaxxer the other day, who said that when 5G ‘went live’ on 05 Jaqn, all us vaccinated folks would keel over dead?

‘Prove me wrong’ he said.

Whaddya reckon?

But are you rapture ready?

captain_spalding said:

Hey, i’m supposed to be dead!

Didn’t Bill show us a post from an anti-vaxxer the other day, who said that when 5G ‘went live’ on 05 Jaqn, all us vaccinated folks would keel over dead?

‘Prove me wrong’ he said.

Whaddya reckon?

He’s wrong. And it’s now proven.

captain_spalding said:

Hey, i’m supposed to be dead!

Didn’t Bill show us a post from an anti-vaxxer the other day, who said that when 5G ‘went live’ on 05 Jaqn, all us vaccinated folks would keel over dead?

‘Prove me wrong’ he said.

Whaddya reckon?

Could be ages before the 5th of Jaqn.

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Hey, i’m supposed to be dead!

Didn’t Bill show us a post from an anti-vaxxer the other day, who said that when 5G ‘went live’ on 05 Jaqn, all us vaccinated folks would keel over dead?

‘Prove me wrong’ he said.

Whaddya reckon?

Could be ages before the 5th of Jaqn.

What’s that in metric time?

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Hey, i’m supposed to be dead!

Didn’t Bill show us a post from an anti-vaxxer the other day, who said that when 5G ‘went live’ on 05 Jaqn, all us vaccinated folks would keel over dead?

‘Prove me wrong’ he said.

Whaddya reckon?

Could be ages before the 5th of Jaqn.

‘Jan’, ‘Jacqueline’, i knew it was some girl’s name or other.

Free rapid antigen tests announced for concession card holders, national cabinet agrees positive RAT results no longer require PCR test

Compromise win

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-05/scott-morrison-rat-tests-national-cabinet/100739940

The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Tasmania The Hon Alan Blow AM has advised legal practitioners this morning that all jury trials have been suspended until at least the 15th of March when the Chief Justice will reassess. The Chief Justice said the decision was made “because of risks associated with the Covid-19 pandemic.”
The Chief Justice said “The risk of exposing jurors and others to COVID-19 infections are unacceptable. It must be remembered that jurors are compelled to come to the Court, whether they wish to or not.”
“If jury trials were to proceed with infection rates as bad as they are now, or worse, it is likely that a lot of trials would be aborted as a result of jurors or others testing positive or having to go into isolation as close contacts” his Honour said.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/why-australia-s-covid-19-cases-could-be-up-to-10-times-higher-than-official-reports/89e7ddd4-7b50-4e79-b5cd-4cb7c7ce4e63

a dung beetle might roll that away

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

LOLOLOL

is it inappropriate to laugh*

*: no seriously read until the end

because what is said is so ridiculous it has to be a passive aggressive prank, surely

“call 000 when”

• cannot speak to the operator
• unconscious enough to need to call
• skin pale, like a cadaver
• cold, like a cadaver
• pain in chest like dying of heart attack
• confusion so you totally know to call
• passing no urine so your kidneys are dead
• coughing up blood which is about to fill the 10% of remaining lung you have

no worries

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

LOLOLOL

is it inappropriate to laugh*

*: no seriously read until the end

because what is said is so ridiculous it has to be a passive aggressive prank, surely

“call 000 when”

• cannot speak to the operator
• unconscious enough to need to call
• skin pale, like a cadaver
• cold, like a cadaver
• pain in chest like dying of heart attack
• confusion so you totally know to call
• passing no urine so your kidneys are dead
• coughing up blood which is about to fill the 10% of remaining lung you have

no worries

Maybe he meant “get a friend to call the undertaker”.

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-05/nsw-records-35054-covid-cases/100727638

Premier Dominic Perrottet has admitted there was “substantial pressure” on the NSW health system after the state recorded 35,054 new cases and eight deaths. The number of people in hospital with COVID has risen to 1,491, up from 1,344, with 119 patients in intensive care, 32 of whom require ventilation. Mr Perrottet said a “sharp escalation” in cases and hospitalisations was expected in coming weeks, followed by a “sharp decline”.

given that POPULATION * POSITIVE_TEST_RATE^2 is still growing exponentially

https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-positive-test-rate/nsw

our question is rhetorical colon where the fuck does this idiot premier think the sharp decline is going to come from question mark

but you already know the answers

One. At testing and hospital capacity, the nett increase in both {active positive cases} and {hospitalisations} will indeed approach zero¡

Two. If more people with less preexisting illness need hospitalisation, then better hurry up and kill off the postexisting ill ones¡

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/why-australia-s-covid-19-cases-could-be-up-to-10-times-higher-than-official-reports/89e7ddd4-7b50-4e79-b5cd-4cb7c7ce4e63

a dung beetle might roll that away

no, no, the psychopath is correct

While Professor Blakely’s projections may sound alarming, he noted the number of hospitalisations as a result of those infections is much lower than would have been the case if Delta was still the dominant COVID-19 strain. “And the other good news is that 180,000 infected per day not going to last too long because you’re going to run out of people to infect, “ he said.

yeah he made himself sound reasonable by using the term “people”, but what he means is “bodies”, “vessels”, something to carry the dear leader’s good work

also

as genius say

given that POPULATION * POSITIVE_TEST_RATE^2 is still growing (yesterday brakes the exponentially bit but it might accelerate again)

yesterday that gives SCALING_FACTOR * 808214 cases but positive tests were only 34994 so

assuming a SCALING_FACTOR of 0.5 then yes, 10 times higher would be within engineering range

Bubblecar said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

LOLOLOL

is it inappropriate to laugh*

*: no seriously read until the end

because what is said is so ridiculous it has to be a passive aggressive prank, surely

“call 000 when”

• cannot speak to the operator
• unconscious enough to need to call
• skin pale, like a cadaver
• cold, like a cadaver
• pain in chest like dying of heart attack
• confusion so you totally know to call
• passing no urine so your kidneys are dead
• coughing up blood which is about to fill the 10% of remaining lung you have

no worries

Maybe he meant “get a friend to call the undertaker”.

truth

Gone full Netherlands…

“Nightclubs to close, surgery restricted as ‘safety measures’ return to NSW”

poikilotherm said:

Gone full Netherlands…

“Nightclubs to close, surgery restricted as ‘safety measures’ return to NSW”

OK, the horse is out of sight, you can close the stable door now.

poikilotherm said:

Nightclubs to close

Bugger.

Peak Warming Man said:

poikilotherm said:

Nightclubs to close

Bugger.

Chin up. It could be worse.

reading a few random headlines after type covid news australia into the search engine

having me a proper gander

…..increase in hospitalizations brought on by the omicron variant..

if I rewrite that …..increase in hospitalizations brought on by the policy of endemic covid…. it’s an arguably similarly true proposition, perhaps closer to reality

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/07/we-have-no-doses-australian-gps-say-they-will-struggle-to-vaccinate-children-before-school-year-begins

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/07/australian-government-was-warned-about-covid-testing-overburden-almost-a-year-ago

JudgeMental said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/07/australian-government-was-warned-about-covid-testing-overburden-almost-a-year-ago

But no-one paid any attention, because they were all busy allocation hundreds of millions of dollars to unnecessary pork-barrel projects, engaged in fiddles for airport land and water rights, making up travel expenses claims, and a hundred other more important things.

And, if they did notice, there was always the never-fail fallback plan: ignore it and hope it goes away.

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/07/australian-government-was-warned-about-covid-testing-overburden-almost-a-year-ago

But no-one paid any attention, because they were all busy allocation hundreds of millions of dollars to unnecessary pork-barrel projects, engaged in fiddles for airport land and water rights, making up travel expenses claims, and a hundred other more important things.

And, if they did notice, there was always the never-fail fallback plan: ignore it and hope it goes away.

from memory, quoted or my paraphrasing from that page

’…governments handling of the testing regime in the face of the surging omicron variant…’

replace surging omicron variant with surging endemic covid, policy in action

saves a lot of misconception

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/scott-morrison-admits-he-gets-rapid-antigen-tests-for-free/news-story/d393f5486328d4eb609a310041af90d5

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2022/01/06/michael-pascoe-morrison-novax-serve-rats-disaster/

JudgeMental said:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2022/01/06/michael-pascoe-morrison-novax-serve-rats-disaster/

he makes a good point.

If the Djoker had only put on a French maid’s outfit, and had his occupation on his passport altered to read ‘au pair’ instead of ‘itinerant tennis bum’, the Morrison govt would have had him out through the airport gates with a motorcycle escort.

JudgeMental said:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2022/01/06/michael-pascoe-morrison-novax-serve-rats-disaster/

read most of that, seemed tolerable until got down to

by memory..

‘…pushing let it rip but not doing what is required to make it possible..’

are there nuances to let it rip I wonder, shades, or is the notion simply no good off the bat

then, again by memory, I got down to a quoted comparison to AIDS/HIV from twitter maybe it was, and use of condoms

i’m not sure about the usefulness of that comparison above, the policy toward endemic covid is perhaps more like encouraging promiscuity

transition said:

JudgeMental said:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2022/01/06/michael-pascoe-morrison-novax-serve-rats-disaster/

read most of that, seemed tolerable until got down to

by memory..

‘…pushing let it rip but not doing what is required to make it possible..’

are there nuances to let it rip I wonder, shades, or is the notion simply no good off the bat

then, again by memory, I got down to a quoted comparison to AIDS/HIV from twitter maybe it was, and use of condoms

i’m not sure about the usefulness of that comparison above, the policy toward endemic covid is perhaps more like encouraging promiscuity

I think it comes down to having enough vaccines available, having enough test kits available, having enough staff and beds free in the health system to cope with a surge in demand. The Morrison government’s approach has been to shift that burden onto someone else (i.e. the states) or leave it up to the private sector without any safeguards against hoarders and rip-off merchants. It is not just let it rip, it is let it rip-off. It is every person for themselves in competition against their neighbours for essential supplies as the retail supply chain chokes from lack of staff due to retail workers being off sick as their sector gets hit with disproportionately more cases due to the workplaces being public places.

party_pants said:

transition said:

JudgeMental said:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2022/01/06/michael-pascoe-morrison-novax-serve-rats-disaster/

read most of that, seemed tolerable until got down to

by memory..

‘…pushing let it rip but not doing what is required to make it possible..’

are there nuances to let it rip I wonder, shades, or is the notion simply no good off the bat

then, again by memory, I got down to a quoted comparison to AIDS/HIV from twitter maybe it was, and use of condoms

i’m not sure about the usefulness of that comparison above, the policy toward endemic covid is perhaps more like encouraging promiscuity

I think it comes down to having enough vaccines available, having enough test kits available, having enough staff and beds free in the health system to cope with a surge in demand. The Morrison government’s approach has been to shift that burden onto someone else (i.e. the states) or leave it up to the private sector without any safeguards against hoarders and rip-off merchants. It is not just let it rip, it is let it rip-off. It is every person for themselves in competition against their neighbours for essential supplies as the retail supply chain chokes from lack of staff due to retail workers being off sick as their sector gets hit with disproportionately more cases due to the workplaces being public places.

why would any sane person facilitate a surge in covid, any uncontrolled expansion, anything above stable numbers or a decline in numbers is expansion, I mean aren’t you conceptually by using the words arranged surge in demand accommodating an uncertainty, inviting it

my point is that let it rip is madness off the bat, to which we’re all being inured, even me writing the words invites it, because the frequency used and availability of it lends to the shared reality of concepts, ready assumptions that make for normal

there used to be a bunch of psychopaths that would claim they weren’t all for Let It Rip® and they were just for Freedom, but suddenly they don’t even need to hide the agenda any more

transition said:

party_pants said:

transition said:

read most of that, seemed tolerable until got down to

by memory..

‘…pushing let it rip but not doing what is required to make it possible..’

are there nuances to let it rip I wonder, shades, or is the notion simply no good off the bat

then, again by memory, I got down to a quoted comparison to AIDS/HIV from twitter maybe it was, and use of condoms

i’m not sure about the usefulness of that comparison above, the policy toward endemic covid is perhaps more like encouraging promiscuity

I think it comes down to having enough vaccines available, having enough test kits available, having enough staff and beds free in the health system to cope with a surge in demand. The Morrison government’s approach has been to shift that burden onto someone else (i.e. the states) or leave it up to the private sector without any safeguards against hoarders and rip-off merchants. It is not just let it rip, it is let it rip-off. It is every person for themselves in competition against their neighbours for essential supplies as the retail supply chain chokes from lack of staff due to retail workers being off sick as their sector gets hit with disproportionately more cases due to the workplaces being public places.

why would any sane person facilitate a surge in covid, any uncontrolled expansion, anything above stable numbers or a decline in numbers is expansion, I mean aren’t you conceptually by using the words arranged surge in demand accommodating an uncertainty, inviting it

my point is that let it rip is madness off the bat, to which we’re all being inured, even me writing the words invites it, because the frequency used and availability of it lends to the shared reality of concepts, ready assumptions that make for normal

Yes. I can’t argue with that. It is fundamentally the wrong horse to pick in the first place. But the way it has been done was even worse, it could have been mitigated to some extent.

Friend,

Depending on where you live, you may have noticed that the shelves in your local supermarket are starting to look bare.

This time it’s not due to panic buying, but rather workers either getting COVID or isolating.

In October 2021, the Transport Workers Union wrote to Scott Morrison warning about this exact scenario.

They requested rapid antigen tests in order to keep truckies safe and minimise disruption to supply chains.

Morrison didn’t even bother with a reply.

Now logistics companies are estimating that up to 50 per cent of truck drivers in parts of the country are unable to work because of COVID illness or isolation.

This means the goods are not hitting supermarkets and customers are facing shortages and limits on certain items.

This situation is likely to get worse if more transport, logistics, retail and warehouse workers get sick too.

Australian Unions Team

JudgeMental said:

Friend,

Depending on where you live, you may have noticed that the shelves in your local supermarket are starting to look bare.

This time it’s not due to panic buying, but rather workers either getting COVID or isolating.

In October 2021, the Transport Workers Union wrote to Scott Morrison warning about this exact scenario.

They requested rapid antigen tests in order to keep truckies safe and minimise disruption to supply chains.

Morrison didn’t even bother with a reply.

Now logistics companies are estimating that up to 50 per cent of truck drivers in parts of the country are unable to work because of COVID illness or isolation.

This means the goods are not hitting supermarkets and customers are facing shortages and limits on certain items.

This situation is likely to get worse if more transport, logistics, retail and warehouse workers get sick too.

Australian Unions Team

Arts said:

JudgeMental said:

Friend,

Depending on where you live, you may have noticed that the shelves in your local supermarket are starting to look bare.

This time it’s not due to panic buying, but rather workers either getting COVID or isolating.

In October 2021, the Transport Workers Union wrote to Scott Morrison warning about this exact scenario.

They requested rapid antigen tests in order to keep truckies safe and minimise disruption to supply chains.

Morrison didn’t even bother with a reply.

Now logistics companies are estimating that up to 50 per cent of truck drivers in parts of the country are unable to work because of COVID illness or isolation.

This means the goods are not hitting supermarkets and customers are facing shortages and limits on certain items.

This situation is likely to get worse if more transport, logistics, retail and warehouse workers get sick too.

Australian Unions Team

if i was rich i would buy a supermarket and never be short of supplies again.

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2022/01/06/michael-pascoe-morrison-novax-serve-rats-disaster/

he makes a good point.

If the Djoker had only put on a French maid’s outfit, and had his occupation on his passport altered to read ‘au pair’ instead of ‘itinerant tennis bum’, the Morrison govt would have had him out through the airport gates with a motorcycle escort.

The words au pair have been mentioned in this house several times with regard to the tennis stories in the last couple of days…

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2022/01/06/michael-pascoe-morrison-novax-serve-rats-disaster/

he makes a good point.

If the Djoker had only put on a French maid’s outfit, and had his occupation on his passport altered to read ‘au pair’ instead of ‘itinerant tennis bum’, the Morrison govt would have had him out through the airport gates with a motorcycle escort.

The words au pair have been mentioned in this house several times with regard to the tennis stories in the last couple of days…

Yeah, but who else provided you with the mental picture of Novax in a French maid’s outfit?

Arts said:

JudgeMental said:

Friend,

Depending on where you live, you may have noticed that the shelves in your local supermarket are starting to look bare.

This time it’s not due to panic buying, but rather workers either getting COVID or isolating.

In October 2021, the Transport Workers Union wrote to Scott Morrison warning about this exact scenario.

They requested rapid antigen tests in order to keep truckies safe and minimise disruption to supply chains.

Morrison didn’t even bother with a reply.

Now logistics companies are estimating that up to 50 per cent of truck drivers in parts of the country are unable to work because of COVID illness or isolation.

This means the goods are not hitting supermarkets and customers are facing shortages and limits on certain items.

This situation is likely to get worse if more transport, logistics, retail and warehouse workers get sick too.

Australian Unions Team

How long do people have to isolate now? It’s only a week, isn’t it? So the people being off work should ease back to near normal quite quickly.

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

he makes a good point.

If the Djoker had only put on a French maid’s outfit, and had his occupation on his passport altered to read ‘au pair’ instead of ‘itinerant tennis bum’, the Morrison govt would have had him out through the airport gates with a motorcycle escort.

The words au pair have been mentioned in this house several times with regard to the tennis stories in the last couple of days…

Yeah, but who else provided you with the mental picture of Novax in a French maid’s outfit?

Well…as I’m pretty much totally uninterested in tennis of any sort, all I really know is the name. I don’t have a mental picture of the face to put with it. I would need to bring up a news story for a face.

Dear
On behalf of the whole team at Woolworths, I’d like to wish you a very Happy New Year and hope that you were able to enjoy the festive period.
As we welcome in 2022, it’s clear that we are entering a very different phase of COVID, not least because of the high levels of community transmission associated with Omicron.
When you’re shopping with us at the moment, you might unfortunately have noticed gaps on shelf, or substitutions in your online order. Unlike the surge buying of early 2020 (who could forget the toilet paper), this is because of the number of people in our supply chain in isolation – from suppliers to truck drivers and distribution centre team members – which in turn is causing material delays to store deliveries. To give you a sense of the magnitude of the challenge, we are experiencing COVID-driven absences of 20%+ in our distribution centres and 10%+ in our stores.
NSW is currently the most affected, although we are seeing impacts across the whole country, and it’s not yet clear how soon the system will come back into balance as we move through the Omicron wave.
We understand how frustrating it is when you can’t find the product you’re looking for and, together with our suppliers and supply chain partners, we’re working hard to get all products back on shelf as quickly as we can (including Rapid Antigen Tests).
In the meantime, we have more than enough stock in the system and plenty more coming. We also have good supply within each ‘category’ of product (even if your favourite isn’t available, a good alternative hopefully should be), so it really helps if you can be flexible with the choices you make. We would of course also ask you to keep shopping as you normally would and to continue to show kindness to our teams.
If you’re shopping online, as a temporary measure we are automatically activating substitutions on all orders. We know this isn’t ideal, but it does mean there’s less chance of missing out on something you really need. We’ll revert to your preference as soon as possible.
As we transition to living with COVID in 2022, we’ll need to keep learning and adapting. We’ll communicate any changes to our settings as they arise so that we can keep providing the safest possible way for you to enjoy everything you’d expect from Today’s Fresh Food People.
Thank you again for your support and understanding as we go over the Omicron hump.
Brad Banducci
CEO Woolworths Group

sarahs mum said:

‘We know this isn’t ideal, but it does mean there’s less chance of missing out on something you really need. ‘

A far greater chance of getting something that you don’t need at all, is more likely.

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

‘We know this isn’t ideal, but it does mean there’s less chance of missing out on something you really need. ‘

A far greater chance of getting something that you don’t need at all, is more likely.

Yeah….. like going down the lolly aisle or the bickie aisle.

It’s okay. I’m not using woolies or coles anymore.

sarahs mum said:

Dear
On behalf of the whole team at Woolworths, I’d like to wish you a very Happy New Year and hope that you were able to enjoy the festive period.
As we welcome in 2022, it’s clear that we are entering a very different phase of COVID, not least because of the high levels of community transmission associated with Omicron.
When you’re shopping with us at the moment, you might unfortunately have noticed gaps on shelf, or substitutions in your online order. Unlike the surge buying of early 2020 (who could forget the toilet paper), this is because of the number of people in our supply chain in isolation – from suppliers to truck drivers and distribution centre team members – which in turn is causing material delays to store deliveries. To give you a sense of the magnitude of the challenge, we are experiencing COVID-driven absences of 20%+ in our distribution centres and 10%+ in our stores.
NSW is currently the most affected, although we are seeing impacts across the whole country, and it’s not yet clear how soon the system will come back into balance as we move through the Omicron wave.
We understand how frustrating it is when you can’t find the product you’re looking for and, together with our suppliers and supply chain partners, we’re working hard to get all products back on shelf as quickly as we can (including Rapid Antigen Tests).
In the meantime, we have more than enough stock in the system and plenty more coming. We also have good supply within each ‘category’ of product (even if your favourite isn’t available, a good alternative hopefully should be), so it really helps if you can be flexible with the choices you make. We would of course also ask you to keep shopping as you normally would and to continue to show kindness to our teams.
If you’re shopping online, as a temporary measure we are automatically activating substitutions on all orders. We know this isn’t ideal, but it does mean there’s less chance of missing out on something you really need. We’ll revert to your preference as soon as possible.
As we transition to living with COVID in 2022, we’ll need to keep learning and adapting. We’ll communicate any changes to our settings as they arise so that we can keep providing the safest possible way for you to enjoy everything you’d expect from Today’s Fresh Food People.
Thank you again for your support and understanding as we go over the Omicron hump.
Brad Banducci
CEO Woolworths Group

Aww. How nice of them.

They didn’t write to me, though…

:(

Who says Delta COVID-19 strain is still dominant globally and Omicron is not mild

A slight change to the above headline could make it a bit.

party_pants said:

transition said:

party_pants said:

I think it comes down to having enough vaccines available, having enough test kits available, having enough staff and beds free in the health system to cope with a surge in demand. The Morrison government’s approach has been to shift that burden onto someone else (i.e. the states) or leave it up to the private sector without any safeguards against hoarders and rip-off merchants. It is not just let it rip, it is let it rip-off. It is every person for themselves in competition against their neighbours for essential supplies as the retail supply chain chokes from lack of staff due to retail workers being off sick as their sector gets hit with disproportionately more cases due to the workplaces being public places.

why would any sane person facilitate a surge in covid, any uncontrolled expansion, anything above stable numbers or a decline in numbers is expansion, I mean aren’t you conceptually by using the words arranged surge in demand accommodating an uncertainty, inviting it

my point is that let it rip is madness off the bat, to which we’re all being inured, even me writing the words invites it, because the frequency used and availability of it lends to the shared reality of concepts, ready assumptions that make for normal

Yes. I can’t argue with that. It is fundamentally the wrong horse to pick in the first place. But the way it has been done was even worse, it could have been mitigated to some extent.

i’d expect the analysis arrived at is was impossible to summon the loyalty and consistent prophylaxis across the population to reasonably be expected to contain it, add prolific transport, the government retreated from invention, handballed it, dispersed covid and responsibility, is dispersing, but get enough people doing it and the people are doing it, a threshold is reached at which point conceptually the people are doing it is a better fit

worst part about it all is it essentially dilutes power of the people, commoners, the locals, the parochial locals, probably shifts influence to more international players

one thing the media don’t like is clumsy propaganda, it tends to undermine the effectiveness of propaganda, hence the tendency toward a convergence of noises from them, so as things go where a politician exhibits clumsy propaganda the media will be there, all over it, to help with the convergence, and it is the effectiveness of propaganda that is being protected, the specific things whatever appears to be about don’t matter so much

This Djokovic saga, are we being mean or are we allowed to say “Its our nation, our rules, fuck off if you don’t like them”

Cymek said:

This Djokovic saga, are we being mean or are we allowed to say “Its our nation, our rules, fuck off if you don’t like them”

It’s like Raf Nadal says – the Djoker can make his own choices, and he can live with the outcomes.

No-one’s keeping him here at gunpoint.

Cymek said:

This Djokovic saga, are we being mean or are we allowed to say “Its our nation, our rules, fuck off if you don’t like them”

Applying standard rules for all is admirable.

The fellow won’t suffer from missing this event any more than he’d suffer from being vaccinated, i.e., zilch suffering.

transition said:

party_pants said:

transition said:

why would any sane person facilitate a surge in covid, any uncontrolled expansion, anything above stable numbers or a decline in numbers is expansion, I mean aren’t you conceptually by using the words arranged surge in demand accommodating an uncertainty, inviting it

my point is that let it rip is madness off the bat, to which we’re all being inured, even me writing the words invites it, because the frequency used and availability of it lends to the shared reality of concepts, ready assumptions that make for normal

Yes. I can’t argue with that. It is fundamentally the wrong horse to pick in the first place. But the way it has been done was even worse, it could have been mitigated to some extent.

i’d expect the analysis arrived at is was impossible to summon the loyalty and consistent prophylaxis across the population to reasonably be expected to contain it, add prolific transport, the government retreated from invention, handballed it, dispersed covid and responsibility, is dispersing, but get enough people doing it and the people are doing it, a threshold is reached at which point conceptually the people are doing it is a better fit

worst part about it all is it essentially dilutes power of the people, commoners, the locals, the parochial locals, probably shifts influence to more international players

one thing the media don’t like is clumsy propaganda, it tends to undermine the effectiveness of propaganda, hence the tendency toward a convergence of noises from them, so as things go where a politician exhibits clumsy propaganda the media will be there, all over it, to help with the convergence, and it is the effectiveness of propaganda that is being protected, the specific things whatever appears to be about don’t matter so much

retreated from invention, should read retreated from intervention

transition said:

transition said:

i’d expect the analysis arrived at is was impossible to summon the loyalty and consistent prophylaxis across the population to reasonably be expected to contain it, add prolific transport, the government retreated from invention, handballed it, dispersed covid and responsibility, is dispersing, but get enough people doing it and the people are doing it, a threshold is reached at which point conceptually the people are doing it is a better fit

retreated from invention, should read retreated from intervention

Indeed, they leapt into invention, fabrication, manufacturing of consent.

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

This Djokovic saga, are we being mean or are we allowed to say “Its our nation, our rules, fuck off if you don’t like them”

Applying standard rules for all is admirable.

The fellow won’t suffer from missing this event any more than he’d suffer from being vaccinated, i.e., zilch suffering.

I guess it helps distract from, if not bury the modest effectiveness vaccines have at reducing infectivity

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

Cymek said:

This Djokovic saga, are we being mean or are we allowed to say “Its our nation, our rules, fuck off if you don’t like them”

Applying standard rules for all is admirable.

The fellow won’t suffer from missing this event any more than he’d suffer from being vaccinated, i.e., zilch suffering.

I guess it helps distract from, if not bury the modest effectiveness vaccines have at reducing infectivity

Modest is better than zilch.

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

Applying standard rules for all is admirable.

The fellow won’t suffer from missing this event any more than he’d suffer from being vaccinated, i.e., zilch suffering.

I guess it helps distract from, if not bury the modest effectiveness vaccines have at reducing infectivity

Modest is better than zilch.

offset not a little by the many having it

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

I guess it helps distract from, if not bury the modest effectiveness vaccines have at reducing infectivity

Modest is better than zilch.

offset not a little by the many having it

having it meaning many at any time being infected

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

Applying standard rules for all is admirable.

The fellow won’t suffer from missing this event any more than he’d suffer from being vaccinated, i.e., zilch suffering.

I guess it helps distract from, if not bury the modest effectiveness vaccines have at reducing infectivity

Modest is better than zilch.

…and the vax protection against severity of illness is considerable.

We don’t need unvaxxed people entering this country and then requiring an ICU bed that could have gone to an actual resident.

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

I guess it helps distract from, if not bury the modest effectiveness vaccines have at reducing infectivity

Modest is better than zilch.

…and the vax protection against severity of illness is considerable.

We don’t need unvaxxed people entering this country and then requiring an ICU bed that could have gone to an actual resident.

no you don’t, you’ve got an army of vaccinated recruits transporting covid, when you have such an army you need distractions

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Modest is better than zilch.

…and the vax protection against severity of illness is considerable.

We don’t need unvaxxed people entering this country and then requiring an ICU bed that could have gone to an actual resident.

no you don’t, you’ve got an army of vaccinated recruits transporting covid, when you have such an army you need distractions

True enough but that’s the nature of this pandemic and our government’s response it.

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

…and the vax protection against severity of illness is considerable.

We don’t need unvaxxed people entering this country and then requiring an ICU bed that could have gone to an actual resident.

no you don’t, you’ve got an army of vaccinated recruits transporting covid, when you have such an army you need distractions

True enough but that’s the nature of this pandemic and our government’s response it.

= to

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

…and the vax protection against severity of illness is considerable.

We don’t need unvaxxed people entering this country and then requiring an ICU bed that could have gone to an actual resident.

no you don’t, you’ve got an army of vaccinated recruits transporting covid, when you have such an army you need distractions

True enough but that’s the nature of this pandemic and our government’s response it.

i’d argue, as a thought exercise, that the tennis player was used as such a distraction

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

no you don’t, you’ve got an army of vaccinated recruits transporting covid, when you have such an army you need distractions

True enough but that’s the nature of this pandemic and our government’s response it.

i’d argue, as a thought exercise, that the tennis player was used as such a distraction

Of course. But I think the main motive for Scummo was depicting himself as “tough and sensible” compared to these Labor premiers.

This is a very interesting article. Hopefully available despite the paywall:

The race to crack the code of natural COVID immunity

By Luke Mintz
Updated January 7, 2022 — 9.41am

London: It’s the question on everyone’s lips. How come I’ve had COVID-19 twice, despite being fully vaccinated? How has my neighbour – who spent the last month isolating with her fully Omicronned children – managed to avoid catching it? Why do some people fall foul of coronavirus again and again, and others remain steadfastly immune? Is it luck, genes, or what?

This week, Sir Keir Starmer tested positive for COVID-19 for the second time in just over two months. It came four weeks after the Labour leader received his third vaccine dose, and is the sixth time Sir Keir will have to self-isolate since the beginning of the pandemic. Few people in Britain have been locked in isolation as many times as Sir Keir.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/the-science-behind-the-covid-repeaters-and-the-never-getters-20220106-p59m87.html

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

Applying standard rules for all is admirable.

The fellow won’t suffer from missing this event any more than he’d suffer from being vaccinated, i.e., zilch suffering.

I guess it helps distract from, if not bury the modest effectiveness vaccines have at reducing infectivity

Modest is better than zilch.

Plus that isn’t their only role. It is cherrypicking to suggest such.

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

True enough but that’s the nature of this pandemic and our government’s response it.

i’d argue, as a thought exercise, that the tennis player was used as such a distraction

Of course. But I think the main motive for Scummo was depicting himself as “tough and sensible” compared to these Labor premiers.

Scummo said it was Victoria’s problem, then the next day he’s out gatheing up the outrage vote.

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

True enough but that’s the nature of this pandemic and our government’s response it.

i’d argue, as a thought exercise, that the tennis player was used as such a distraction

Of course. But I think the main motive for Scummo was depicting himself as “tough and sensible” compared to these Labor premiers.

or he’s one of the masters of wild covid, one of the new breed of pandemiphiles, involved in vaccines deployed as a vote for wild covid, needed a distraction that conformed to the prejudices, or appealed to the broader masters of convergent reality that strongly influence prejudices

a prejudice toward unvaccinated people might be really effective at distracting from a vaccinated army of covid spreaders, all part of the good work toward covid egalitarianism, the wonderful covid equilibrium all are encouraged to embrace

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

i’d argue, as a thought exercise, that the tennis player was used as such a distraction

Of course. But I think the main motive for Scummo was depicting himself as “tough and sensible” compared to these Labor premiers.

or he’s one of the masters of wild covid, one of the new breed of pandemiphiles, involved in vaccines deployed as a vote for wild covid, needed a distraction that conformed to the prejudices, or appealed to the broader masters of convergent reality that strongly influence prejudices

a prejudice toward unvaccinated people might be really effective at distracting from a vaccinated army of covid spreaders, all part of the good work toward covid egalitarianism, the wonderful covid equilibrium all are encouraged to embrace

We impose penalties or removal of privileges for unvaccinated children why shouldn’t the same apply to adults with no good reason not to get it.

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

i’d argue, as a thought exercise, that the tennis player was used as such a distraction

Of course. But I think the main motive for Scummo was depicting himself as “tough and sensible” compared to these Labor premiers.

or he’s one of the masters of wild covid, one of the new breed of pandemiphiles, involved in vaccines deployed as a vote for wild covid, needed a distraction that conformed to the prejudices, or appealed to the broader masters of convergent reality that strongly influence prejudices

a prejudice toward unvaccinated people might be really effective at distracting from a vaccinated army of covid spreaders, all part of the good work toward covid egalitarianism, the wonderful covid equilibrium all are encouraged to embrace

OTOH anti-vax is bullshit and you’re not doing your cause any good by being coy about that.

Witty Rejoinder said:

This is a very interesting article. Hopefully available despite the paywall:

The race to crack the code of natural COVID immunity

By Luke Mintz
Updated January 7, 2022 — 9.41am

London: It’s the question on everyone’s lips. How come I’ve had COVID-19 twice, despite being fully vaccinated? How has my neighbour – who spent the last month isolating with her fully Omicronned children – managed to avoid catching it? Why do some people fall foul of coronavirus again and again, and others remain steadfastly immune? Is it luck, genes, or what?

This week, Sir Keir Starmer tested positive for COVID-19 for the second time in just over two months. It came four weeks after the Labour leader received his third vaccine dose, and is the sixth time Sir Keir will have to self-isolate since the beginning of the pandemic. Few people in Britain have been locked in isolation as many times as Sir Keir.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/the-science-behind-the-covid-repeaters-and-the-never-getters-20220106-p59m87.html

I’ve had both sprogs isolating at home with the virus and neither SWMBO or I have succumbed.

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

i’d argue, as a thought exercise, that the tennis player was used as such a distraction

Of course. But I think the main motive for Scummo was depicting himself as “tough and sensible” compared to these Labor premiers.

or he’s one of the masters of wild covid, one of the new breed of pandemiphiles, involved in vaccines deployed as a vote for wild covid, needed a distraction that conformed to the prejudices, or appealed to the broader masters of convergent reality that strongly influence prejudices

a prejudice toward unvaccinated people might be really effective at distracting from a vaccinated army of covid spreaders, all part of the good work toward covid egalitarianism, the wonderful covid equilibrium all are encouraged to embrace

good grief, you have lost the plot.

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

Of course. But I think the main motive for Scummo was depicting himself as “tough and sensible” compared to these Labor premiers.

or he’s one of the masters of wild covid, one of the new breed of pandemiphiles, involved in vaccines deployed as a vote for wild covid, needed a distraction that conformed to the prejudices, or appealed to the broader masters of convergent reality that strongly influence prejudices

a prejudice toward unvaccinated people might be really effective at distracting from a vaccinated army of covid spreaders, all part of the good work toward covid egalitarianism, the wonderful covid equilibrium all are encouraged to embrace

OTOH anti-vax is bullshit and you’re not doing your cause any good by being coy about that.

It is and often vested interests in selling alternative medicine exist

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

Of course. But I think the main motive for Scummo was depicting himself as “tough and sensible” compared to these Labor premiers.

or he’s one of the masters of wild covid, one of the new breed of pandemiphiles, involved in vaccines deployed as a vote for wild covid, needed a distraction that conformed to the prejudices, or appealed to the broader masters of convergent reality that strongly influence prejudices

a prejudice toward unvaccinated people might be really effective at distracting from a vaccinated army of covid spreaders, all part of the good work toward covid egalitarianism, the wonderful covid equilibrium all are encouraged to embrace

OTOH anti-vax is bullshit and you’re not doing your cause any good by being coy about that.

who’s coy

sibeen said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

This is a very interesting article. Hopefully available despite the paywall:

The race to crack the code of natural COVID immunity

By Luke Mintz
Updated January 7, 2022 — 9.41am

London: It’s the question on everyone’s lips. How come I’ve had COVID-19 twice, despite being fully vaccinated? How has my neighbour – who spent the last month isolating with her fully Omicronned children – managed to avoid catching it? Why do some people fall foul of coronavirus again and again, and others remain steadfastly immune? Is it luck, genes, or what?

This week, Sir Keir Starmer tested positive for COVID-19 for the second time in just over two months. It came four weeks after the Labour leader received his third vaccine dose, and is the sixth time Sir Keir will have to self-isolate since the beginning of the pandemic. Few people in Britain have been locked in isolation as many times as Sir Keir.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/the-science-behind-the-covid-repeaters-and-the-never-getters-20220106-p59m87.html

I’ve had both sprogs isolating at home with the virus and neither SWMBO or I have succumbed.

must be all that invalid stout you drink. the germs are too drunk to multiply. dunno about swmbo. maybe just super strong system that has coped with you for so long.

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

or he’s one of the masters of wild covid, one of the new breed of pandemiphiles, involved in vaccines deployed as a vote for wild covid, needed a distraction that conformed to the prejudices, or appealed to the broader masters of convergent reality that strongly influence prejudices

a prejudice toward unvaccinated people might be really effective at distracting from a vaccinated army of covid spreaders, all part of the good work toward covid egalitarianism, the wonderful covid equilibrium all are encouraged to embrace

OTOH anti-vax is bullshit and you’re not doing your cause any good by being coy about that.

who’s coy

You’re being coy by relying on other people to point out that anti-vax is bullshit, and then accusing them of “prejudice and distraction” when they do.

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

OTOH anti-vax is bullshit and you’re not doing your cause any good by being coy about that.

who’s coy

You’re being coy by relying on other people to point out that anti-vax is bullshit, and then accusing them of “prejudice and distraction” when they do.

you’ve agreed an army of vaccinated covid spreaders needs distractions, that was a good contribution to the thought exercise, my opinion

i’d moved on to what sort of distractions were likely

sibeen said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

This is a very interesting article. Hopefully available despite the paywall:

The race to crack the code of natural COVID immunity

By Luke Mintz
Updated January 7, 2022 — 9.41am

London: It’s the question on everyone’s lips. How come I’ve had COVID-19 twice, despite being fully vaccinated? How has my neighbour – who spent the last month isolating with her fully Omicronned children – managed to avoid catching it? Why do some people fall foul of coronavirus again and again, and others remain steadfastly immune? Is it luck, genes, or what?

This week, Sir Keir Starmer tested positive for COVID-19 for the second time in just over two months. It came four weeks after the Labour leader received his third vaccine dose, and is the sixth time Sir Keir will have to self-isolate since the beginning of the pandemic. Few people in Britain have been locked in isolation as many times as Sir Keir.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/the-science-behind-the-covid-repeaters-and-the-never-getters-20220106-p59m87.html

I’ve had both sprogs isolating at home with the virus and neither SWMBO or I have succumbed.

You may both have some immunity from previous coronavirus colds. I’m sure I saw some research about that somewhere. But there is such a tsunami of research around it’s difficult to keep track and to sift out what you want.

buffy said:

sibeen said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

This is a very interesting article. Hopefully available despite the paywall:

The race to crack the code of natural COVID immunity

By Luke Mintz
Updated January 7, 2022 — 9.41am

London: It’s the question on everyone’s lips. How come I’ve had COVID-19 twice, despite being fully vaccinated? How has my neighbour – who spent the last month isolating with her fully Omicronned children – managed to avoid catching it? Why do some people fall foul of coronavirus again and again, and others remain steadfastly immune? Is it luck, genes, or what?

This week, Sir Keir Starmer tested positive for COVID-19 for the second time in just over two months. It came four weeks after the Labour leader received his third vaccine dose, and is the sixth time Sir Keir will have to self-isolate since the beginning of the pandemic. Few people in Britain have been locked in isolation as many times as Sir Keir.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/the-science-behind-the-covid-repeaters-and-the-never-getters-20220106-p59m87.html

I’ve had both sprogs isolating at home with the virus and neither SWMBO or I have succumbed.

You may both have some immunity from previous coronavirus colds. I’m sure I saw some research about that somewhere. But there is such a tsunami of research around it’s difficult to keep track and to sift out what you want.

This one is how children might be covered.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-021-01094-x

And another one.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/210902174754.htm

https://www.sciencealert.com/throat-swabs-may-be-needed-to-detect-omicron-in-rapid-tests-study-finds

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

who’s coy

You’re being coy by relying on other people to point out that anti-vax is bullshit, and then accusing them of “prejudice and distraction” when they do.

you’ve agreed an army of vaccinated covid spreaders needs distractions, that was a good contribution to the thought exercise, my opinion

i’d moved on to what sort of distractions were likely

in case our position hasn’t been clear from our 2308147932 earlier posts on this topic, we’ll say it here

we fully support a goal of {making vaccination against nasty infectious disease unnecessary, by virtue of the fact that nasty infectious disease is no longer transmitting}, see also variola

Michael V said:

https://www.sciencealert.com/throat-swabs-may-be-needed-to-detect-omicron-in-rapid-tests-study-finds

yeah they’ve been on about that on social media for a month or so

on the other hand in many ways not bothering to test can be reasonable

(it needs to go along with an admission by the authorities that they’ve lost control, so we’re not saying the current situation is reasonable)

with these high incidences of late, rather than using tests to decide on action, we argue that the correct action is to assume everyone is a high transmission risk, and ensure that the risk of reception is minimised by using masks, ventilation, distancing, vaccination, intelligence

Next week’s Tamworth Country Music Festival postponed due to COVID-19 concerns

anyway can all you pessimists just fkn calm down and enjoy the sunshine for a bit

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/wa-mask-mandate-scrapped-as-state-records-zero-covid19-cases/100743920

Western Australia’s mask-wearing mandate is set to ease this evening after the state recorded no new local COVID-19 cases overnight. “When we asked, everyone did the right thing and followed the health advice and so we were able to get on top of this outbreak.” The lifting of the mandate comes as WA prepares to lock its borders to every jurisdiction except the Northern Territory.

WA has recorded six cases of COVID-19 linked to interstate and international travellers.

SCIENCE said:

anyway can all you pessimists just fkn calm down and enjoy the sunshine for a bit

It’s 38C outside. Little bit too much sunshine.

SCIENCE said:

anyway can all you pessimists just fkn calm down and enjoy the sunshine for a bit

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/wa-mask-mandate-scrapped-as-state-records-zero-covid19-cases/100743920

Western Australia’s mask-wearing mandate is set to ease this evening after the state recorded no new local COVID-19 cases overnight. “When we asked, everyone did the right thing and followed the health advice and so we were able to get on top of this outbreak.” The lifting of the mandate comes as WA prepares to lock its borders to every jurisdiction except the Northern Territory.

WA has recorded six cases of COVID-19 linked to interstate and international travellers.

Life for me has pretty much been normal, work as usual, mask wearing which gets annoying as disposables start to itch but not a big deal.
Reduced socialising well I don’t indulge in it anyway so hah

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

anyway can all you pessimists just fkn calm down and enjoy the sunshine for a bit

It’s 38C outside. Little bit too much sunshine.

get that sort of heat here sunday to wednesday, had a look shortly ago

I noticed my local Bunnings were running out of nuts and bolts. I bought the last remaining pack of M8 SS-316 Nylocs they had. A few other items had sold out Better stock up on them too if I see some at another place.

party_pants said:

I noticed my local Bunnings were running out of nuts and bolts. I bought the last remaining pack of M8 SS-316 Nylocs they had. A few other items had sold out Better stock up on them too if I see some at another place.

That’s a supply from China problem. It has been going on for a while now.

transition said:

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

anyway can all you pessimists just fkn calm down and enjoy the sunshine for a bit

It’s 38C outside. Little bit too much sunshine.

get that sort of heat here sunday to wednesday, had a look shortly ago

It’s not ideal temperature much more unpleasant walking in it in work clothes though, shorts, t-shirt, slip, slop, slap and its not too bad

nah we think it’s probably just that ‘e got COVID-19 and lost another sense this time of hearing

anyway more good news for you all, saunas stop COVID-19 here it is

https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciac006/6498295

Two Years Into Pandemic That Killed Millions Of Adults, Television Personality Dares To Contradict Health Experts, And Claims That Children Benefit From Having Live Parents

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/06/kelly-ernby-california-prosecutor-dies-covid

Face of shame.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/federal-treasurer-josh-frydenberg-tests-positive-for-covid-19/100745204

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/federal-treasurer-josh-frydenberg-tests-positive-for-covid-19/100745204

:)

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/federal-treasurer-josh-frydenberg-tests-positive-for-covid-19/100745204

:)

What’s ‘schadenfreude’ in Yiddish?

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/federal-treasurer-josh-frydenberg-tests-positive-for-covid-19/100745204

:)

What’s ‘schadenfreude’ in Yiddish?

oy schadenfreude

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/federal-treasurer-josh-frydenberg-tests-positive-for-covid-19/100745204

:)

What’s ‘schadenfreude’ in Yiddish?

Mr. Frydenberg is a rather unpleasant chap. If ill fortune is bound to be shared about, then it’s a not unwelcome situation to have it visited upon unpleasant people.

Especially if those unpleasant people are among the cabal that decided to do nothing to forestall the ill fortune, despite more than adequate warning of it.

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

:)

What’s ‘schadenfreude’ in Yiddish?

Mr. Frydenberg is a rather unpleasant chap. If ill fortune is bound to be shared about, then it’s a not unwelcome situation to have it visited upon unpleasant people.

Especially if those unpleasant people are among the cabal that decided to do nothing to forestall the ill fortune, despite more than adequate warning of it.

Of the general unpleasantness that is the Coalition I wouldn’t rate JF that badly myself.

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

What’s ‘schadenfreude’ in Yiddish?

Mr. Frydenberg is a rather unpleasant chap. If ill fortune is bound to be shared about, then it’s a not unwelcome situation to have it visited upon unpleasant people.

Especially if those unpleasant people are among the cabal that decided to do nothing to forestall the ill fortune, despite more than adequate warning of it.

Of the general unpleasantness that is the Coalition I wouldn’t rate JF that badly myself.

I’ll ask Bridget Archer what she thinks of him.

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

What’s ‘schadenfreude’ in Yiddish?

Mr. Frydenberg is a rather unpleasant chap. If ill fortune is bound to be shared about, then it’s a not unwelcome situation to have it visited upon unpleasant people.

Especially if those unpleasant people are among the cabal that decided to do nothing to forestall the ill fortune, despite more than adequate warning of it.

Of the general unpleasantness that is the Coalition I wouldn’t rate JF that badly myself.

Admittedly, there’s worse than him.

JF just happens to be a highly visible and apparently more than willing participant (innovator?) in the various bits of skullduggery and sleight-of-hand that this govt passes off as financial management.

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

Mr. Frydenberg is a rather unpleasant chap. If ill fortune is bound to be shared about, then it’s a not unwelcome situation to have it visited upon unpleasant people.

Especially if those unpleasant people are among the cabal that decided to do nothing to forestall the ill fortune, despite more than adequate warning of it.

Of the general unpleasantness that is the Coalition I wouldn’t rate JF that badly myself.

Admittedly, there’s worse than him.

JF just happens to be a highly visible and apparently more than willing participant (innovator?) in the various bits of skullduggery and sleight-of-hand that this govt passes off as financial management.

Clearly he’s complicit.

I don’t think WA is remotely ready to open borders on 5 Feb. There are record levels of ambulance ramping now, with no significant Covid problem.

dv said:

I don’t think WA is remotely ready to open borders on 5 Feb. There are record levels of ambulance ramping now, with no significant Covid problem.

It’s madness.

Tasmanian health system is not prepared for any extra loading but hospital cases will be rapidly increasing.

dv said:

I don’t think WA is remotely ready to open borders on 5 Feb. There are record levels of ambulance ramping now, with no significant Covid problem.

Why is there ramping at the moment?

dv said:

I don’t think WA is remotely ready to open borders on 5 Feb. There are record levels of ambulance ramping now, with no significant Covid problem.

We need to go out and actively kidnap foreign doctors and nurses so we have enough staff to open more hospital beds.

sibeen said:

dv said:

I don’t think WA is remotely ready to open borders on 5 Feb. There are record levels of ambulance ramping now, with no significant Covid problem.

Why is there ramping at the moment?

Shortages of trained medical staff.

Long term plan we could offer to waive/forgive student loans for anyone with a medical science type degree who completes the course and enters into the profession for a certain number of years. Short term we are offering assisted immigration, but still can’t fill the quotas.

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

I don’t think WA is remotely ready to open borders on 5 Feb. There are record levels of ambulance ramping now, with no significant Covid problem.

Why is there ramping at the moment?

Shortages of trained medical staff.

Long term plan we could offer to waive/forgive student loans for anyone with a medical science type degree who completes the course and enters into the profession for a certain number of years. Short term we are offering assisted immigration, but still can’t fill the quotas.

But surely with the sainted McGowan in charge this has all been sorted?

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Why is there ramping at the moment?

Shortages of trained medical staff.

Long term plan we could offer to waive/forgive student loans for anyone with a medical science type degree who completes the course and enters into the profession for a certain number of years. Short term we are offering assisted immigration, but still can’t fill the quotas.

But surely with the sainted McGowan in charge this has all been sorted?

Or has ramping become standard practice?

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Why is there ramping at the moment?

Shortages of trained medical staff.

Long term plan we could offer to waive/forgive student loans for anyone with a medical science type degree who completes the course and enters into the profession for a certain number of years. Short term we are offering assisted immigration, but still can’t fill the quotas.

But surely with the sainted McGowan in charge this has all been sorted?

Nope. In spite of a record tax take from iron ore royalties the problem persists and is showing no signs of improvement. It has been shit since I don’t know when. Decades. The cynic might argue that this is the primary reason for WA’s stricter Covid measures and border closures – to keep the rona out of the WA health system so it doesn’t collapse because there is no surge capacity.

sibeen said:

dv said:

I don’t think WA is remotely ready to open borders on 5 Feb. There are record levels of ambulance ramping now, with no significant Covid problem.

Why is there ramping at the moment?

Fiik. Not really what you expect from a Labor government in one of the wealthiest jurisdictions in the entire world

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-03/wa-records-worst-ambulance-ramping-figures-in-history/100735606

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/07/we-know-the-hell-were-in-it-will-get-worse-before-it-gets-better

JudgeMental said:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/07/we-know-the-hell-were-in-it-will-get-worse-before-it-gets-better

If I was running the show nurses would be getting a rise and a bonus and an extra week’s holiday this year.

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

I don’t think WA is remotely ready to open borders on 5 Feb. There are record levels of ambulance ramping now, with no significant Covid problem.

Why is there ramping at the moment?

Shortages of trained medical staff.

Long term plan we could offer to waive/forgive student loans for anyone with a medical science type degree who completes the course and enters into the profession for a certain number of years. Short term we are offering assisted immigration, but still can’t fill the quotas.

They probably look up the summertime temperatures.

PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Why is there ramping at the moment?

Shortages of trained medical staff.

Long term plan we could offer to waive/forgive student loans for anyone with a medical science type degree who completes the course and enters into the profession for a certain number of years. Short term we are offering assisted immigration, but still can’t fill the quotas.

They probably look up the summertime temperatures.

Yeah, it’s been a bit blah the last week or two.

When I was in hospital last: half the nurses were Poms or Filipinas. A few Aussies but less than half I reckon.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/queensland-covid-19-cases-icu-hospital-school-delay/100743826

“This is going to be a short sharp wave. We’re asking you to minimise your going out for essentially the next six weeks. That’s not a big ask.”

sorry, de-emphasis not ours

“This is going to be a short sharp wave. We’re asking you to minimise your going out for essentially the next six weeks. That’s not a big ask.”

Laugh Out Loud

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/queensland-covid-19-cases-icu-hospital-school-delay/100743826

“This is going to be a short sharp wave. We’re asking you to minimise your going out for essentially the next six weeks. That’s not a big ask.”

sorry, de-emphasis not ours

“This is going to be a short sharp wave. We’re asking you to minimise your going out for essentially the next six weeks. That’s not a big ask.”

Laugh Out Loud

Ive decided to not to go out for the next six years.

Things might be better then, dunno. scratches head.

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/queensland-covid-19-cases-icu-hospital-school-delay/100743826

“This is going to be a short sharp wave. We’re asking you to minimise your going out for essentially the next six weeks. That’s not a big ask.”

sorry, de-emphasis not ours

“This is going to be a short sharp wave. We’re asking you to minimise your going out for essentially the next six weeks. That’s not a big ask.”

Laugh Out Loud

Ive decided to not to go out for the next six years.

Things might be better then, dunno. scratches head.

Mask Mandate dropped from this evening, hmmm, is that a good idea?

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/queensland-covid-19-cases-icu-hospital-school-delay/100743826

“This is going to be a short sharp wave. We’re asking you to minimise your going out for essentially the next six weeks. That’s not a big ask.”

sorry, de-emphasis not ours

“This is going to be a short sharp wave. We’re asking you to minimise your going out for essentially the next six weeks. That’s not a big ask.”

Laugh Out Loud

Ive decided to not to go out for the next six years.

Things might be better then, dunno. scratches head.

you’ll be missing out on the booming economy

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/worst-week-since-delta-spending-data-reveals-shadow-lockdown-as-cases-rise-20220107-p59mmm.html

being serious though, get all shot up and invest in good masks, then apart from taking them off (example to eat out) in shared spaces, it’s probably safe enough

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/queensland-covid-19-cases-icu-hospital-school-delay/100743826

“This is going to be a short sharp wave. We’re asking you to minimise your going out for essentially the next six weeks. That’s not a big ask.”

sorry, de-emphasis not ours

“This is going to be a short sharp wave. We’re asking you to minimise your going out for essentially the next six weeks. That’s not a big ask.”

Laugh Out Loud

Ive decided to not to go out for the next six years.

Things might be better then, dunno. scratches head.

Mask Mandate dropped from this evening, hmmm, is that a good idea?

you can still wear one to yourself, might have to be a better one though

also

they forgot there’s also responding to fluctuations of the market, that works well too

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/omicron-covid-leaders-not-learning-from-mistakes/100744162

ABC News:

‘NSW records 45,098 COVID-19 cases, nine deaths
By Kevin Nguyen
NSW records 45,098 COVID-19 cases and nine deaths in the 24 hours to 8pm on Friday.’

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘NSW records 45,098 COVID-19 cases, nine deaths
By Kevin Nguyen
NSW records 45,098 COVID-19 cases and nine deaths in the 24 hours to 8pm on Friday.’

Good on you Dominic. Best decision you ever made.

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘NSW records 45,098 COVID-19 cases, nine deaths
By Kevin Nguyen
NSW records 45,098 COVID-19 cases and nine deaths in the 24 hours to 8pm on Friday.’

From that link..

The latest figures come as NSW reinstates a ban on dancing and singing in hospitality and entertainment venues from today, in a bed to alleviate pressure on the health system.

More to come.
>perhaps they’ll see their mistake shortly but they didn’t in the last update: Posted 16m ago, updated 3m ago

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘NSW records 45,098 COVID-19 cases, nine deaths
By Kevin Nguyen
NSW records 45,098 COVID-19 cases and nine deaths in the 24 hours to 8pm on Friday.’

Good on you Dominic. Best decision you ever made.

He’s a good Premier. He does what he’s told.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘NSW records 45,098 COVID-19 cases, nine deaths
By Kevin Nguyen
NSW records 45,098 COVID-19 cases and nine deaths in the 24 hours to 8pm on Friday.’

Good on you Dominic. Best decision you ever made.

He’s a good Premier. He does what he’s told.

Victoria records 51,356 COVID-19 cases and nine deaths
There are now 83,390 active cases in Victoria, with a further nine deaths taking the toll from the current outbreak to 752.

so is the country back in lockdown yet

I like lockdowns, sort of an ideological holiday, they need be rapid though, short and swift if you can manage it, work really well if you’ve got the citizen loyalty

transition said:

so is the country back in lockdown yet

I like lockdowns, sort of an ideological holiday, they need be rapid though, short and swift if you can manage it, work really well if you’ve got the citizen loyalty

No it’s not. The cats are out of the bag now and they’re running around wildly, thanks to some very poor political decisions. And after all the hard work the rest of us did to contain this epidemic.

Malcolm Turnbull tests positive to COVID-19

Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has tested positive to COVID-19.

“Like hundreds of thousands of other Australians I have tested positive for covid. Symptoms moderate so far. Isolating as required,” he tweeted.

“This pandemic and especially this latest wave has put our health professionals under enormous pressure — please be polite and considerate.”

——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/covid-live-blog-latest-updates-omicron-rats-national-cabinet/100745132

I wonder how many people who get a positive rat will report it?

Peak Warming Man said:

I wonder how many people who get a positive rat will report it?

Apparently 10s of thousands in Victoria.

“Victoria records 51,356 COVID-19 cases and nine deaths”

““Most people who reported a positive rapid antigen test got that result earlier in the week, and reported it when the webform opened yesterday. “

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/victoria-covid-cases-hopitalisation-death-pcr-rat-testing/100745386

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I wonder how many people who get a positive rat will report it?

Apparently 10s of thousands in Victoria.

“Victoria records 51,356 COVID-19 cases and nine deaths”

““Most people who reported a positive rapid antigen test got that result earlier in the week, and reported it when the webform opened yesterday. “

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/victoria-covid-cases-hopitalisation-death-pcr-rat-testing/100745386

But if you don’t report it it wont be ratified.

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I wonder how many people who get a positive rat will report it?

Apparently 10s of thousands in Victoria.

“Victoria records 51,356 COVID-19 cases and nine deaths”

““Most people who reported a positive rapid antigen test got that result earlier in the week, and reported it when the webform opened yesterday. “

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/victoria-covid-cases-hopitalisation-death-pcr-rat-testing/100745386

But if you don’t report it it wont be ratified.

Those that don’t will be rat arsed.

Michael V said:

Malcolm Turnbull tests positive to COVID-19

Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has tested positive to COVID-19.

“Like hundreds of thousands of other Australians I have tested positive for covid. Symptoms moderate so far. Isolating as required,” he tweeted.

“This pandemic and especially this latest wave has put our health professionals under enormous pressure — please be polite and considerate.”

——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/covid-live-blog-latest-updates-omicron-rats-national-cabinet/100745132

Malcom turned out to be a nice bloke after all. I wish him a speedy recovery.

sarahs mum said:

They left out the barbed wire canoe option.

There’s still a chance while the boat isn’t sinking and if the shit is thick enough, you can get out and walk.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

They left out the barbed wire canoe option.

There’s still a chance while the boat isn’t sinking and if the shit is thick enough, you can get out and walk.

Like the Yarra years ago. Too thick to swim in, too thin to plough.

fsm said:

this latest wave of policy-induced infection

Michael V said:

transition said:

so is the country back in lockdown yet

I like lockdowns, sort of an ideological holiday, they need be rapid though, short and swift if you can manage it, work really well if you’ve got the citizen loyalty

No it’s not. The cats are out of the bag now and they’re running around wildly, thanks to some very poor political decisions. And after all the hard work the rest of us did to contain this epidemic.

nah you could squash the corona turd mostly in a fortnight, certainly a month

but keep it a secret, just between you and me

SCIENCE said:

Who said that he was the sharpest knife in the drawer?

SCIENCE said:

the derrr of naive innocence, the invitation to share in that, the media loves that sort of thing

SCIENCE said:

Yeah.

sigh

SCIENCE said:

The modelling was delta. They never had data to include omicron although it was well loose by the time that we went to OPEN for business.

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

Yeah.

sigh

The modelling was delta. They never had data to include omicron although it was well loose by the time that we went to OPEN for business.

Laugh Out Loud

Supplies of cardboard and packaging materials have been dwindling since October.

But for Australia, chief among these supply chain issues is the scarcity of air freight.

The vast majority of rapid tests being sold for use in Australia are being imported from overseas, which means an overnight emergency delivery to replenish stocks is near-impossible.

Airlines around the world scrounging for healthy crews have been cancelling thousands of flights since Christmas, and cargo data providers reported prices on key routes almost doubled in the last three months of 2021.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/omicron-covid-surge-prompts-rapid-test-shortages/100743408

sarahs mum said:

Supplies of cardboard and packaging materials have been dwindling since October.

But for Australia, chief among these supply chain issues is the scarcity of air freight.

The vast majority of rapid tests being sold for use in Australia are being imported from overseas, which means an overnight emergency delivery to replenish stocks is near-impossible.

Airlines around the world scrounging for healthy crews have been cancelling thousands of flights since Christmas, and cargo data providers reported prices on key routes almost doubled in the last three months of 2021.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/omicron-covid-surge-prompts-rapid-test-shortages/100743408

corresponds with ‘opening up’, specifically vaccination and targets used for letting it go, wild covid, been no end to the bullshit encouraging it, the likelihood of covid inconveniently evolving was a very high probability, it had already done so

bullshit breeds bullshit

transition said:

sarahs mum said:

Supplies of cardboard and packaging materials have been dwindling since October.

But for Australia, chief among these supply chain issues is the scarcity of air freight.

The vast majority of rapid tests being sold for use in Australia are being imported from overseas, which means an overnight emergency delivery to replenish stocks is near-impossible.

Airlines around the world scrounging for healthy crews have been cancelling thousands of flights since Christmas, and cargo data providers reported prices on key routes almost doubled in the last three months of 2021.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/omicron-covid-surge-prompts-rapid-test-shortages/100743408

corresponds with ‘opening up’, specifically vaccination and targets used for letting it go, wild covid, been no end to the bullshit encouraging it, the likelihood of covid inconveniently evolving was a very high probability, it had already done so

bullshit breeds bullshit

oh I should have added..

if testing (etc) was used for reducing covid numbers there would be no shortage of testing capacity

but it’s more a mammoth distraction, quite grotesque really

you use what you have in abundance to reduce covid numbers, not what is likely to become scarce and undermine containment, and a sane person certainly wouldn’t derail containment

clearly there’s some insanity

transition said:

clearly there’s some insanity

It’s half-year reporting time and here’s execs out there who are worried that no business means no good figures, which means no good prognoses for the next two quarters, which could mean no big bonuses and decreased share option values.

Not insane at all.

Greedy and self-serving, perhaps, but not insane.

transition said:

transition said:

sarahs mum said:

Supplies of cardboard and packaging materials have been dwindling since October.

But for Australia, chief among these supply chain issues is the scarcity of air freight.

The vast majority of rapid tests being sold for use in Australia are being imported from overseas, which means an overnight emergency delivery to replenish stocks is near-impossible.

Airlines around the world scrounging for healthy crews have been cancelling thousands of flights since Christmas, and cargo data providers reported prices on key routes almost doubled in the last three months of 2021.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-08/omicron-covid-surge-prompts-rapid-test-shortages/100743408

corresponds with ‘opening up’, specifically vaccination and targets used for letting it go, wild covid, been no end to the bullshit encouraging it, the likelihood of covid inconveniently evolving was a very high probability, it had already done so

bullshit breeds bullshit

oh I should have added..

if testing (etc) was used for reducing covid numbers there would be no shortage of testing capacity

but it’s more a mammoth distraction, quite grotesque really

you use what you have in abundance to reduce covid numbers, not what is likely to become scarce and undermine containment, and a sane person certainly wouldn’t derail containment

clearly there’s some insanity

Sure.

But what can we do – apart from isolating, masking, sterilising and keeping away from others?

Eleventy thousand in Qld today.

captain_spalding said:

transition said:

clearly there’s some insanity

It’s half-year reporting time and here’s execs out there who are worried that no business means no good figures, which means no good prognoses for the next two quarters, which could mean no big bonuses and decreased share option values.

Not insane at all.

Greedy and self-serving, perhaps, but not insane.

I think it an insanity, humans exhibit more of it than any other species

Michael V said:

transition said:

transition said:

corresponds with ‘opening up’, specifically vaccination and targets used for letting it go, wild covid, been no end to the bullshit encouraging it, the likelihood of covid inconveniently evolving was a very high probability, it had already done so

bullshit breeds bullshit

oh I should have added..

if testing (etc) was used for reducing covid numbers there would be no shortage of testing capacity

but it’s more a mammoth distraction, quite grotesque really

you use what you have in abundance to reduce covid numbers, not what is likely to become scarce and undermine containment, and a sane person certainly wouldn’t derail containment

clearly there’s some insanity

Sure.

But what can we do – apart from isolating, masking, sterilising and keeping away from others?

you can’t do much, but I certainly won’t forget before the next elections, or ever

I may even become an advocate of public floggings, not literally but whatever the civilized, acceptable modern equivalent is

transition said:

Michael V said:

transition said:

oh I should have added..

if testing (etc) was used for reducing covid numbers there would be no shortage of testing capacity

but it’s more a mammoth distraction, quite grotesque really

you use what you have in abundance to reduce covid numbers, not what is likely to become scarce and undermine containment, and a sane person certainly wouldn’t derail containment

clearly there’s some insanity

Sure.

But what can we do – apart from isolating, masking, sterilising and keeping away from others?

you can’t do much, but I certainly won’t forget before the next elections, or ever

I may even become an advocate of public floggings, not literally but whatever the civilized, acceptable modern equivalent is

What was wrong with stocks?

Spiny Norman said:

It’s all come crashing down. Those hospital workers are in for a prolonged nightmare.

Bubblecar said:

Spiny Norman said:

It’s all come crashing down. Those hospital workers are in for a prolonged nightmare.

There is of course the real risk that they may come to the point where they simply can no longer cope.

Bubblecar said:

Spiny Norman said:

It’s all come crashing down. Those hospital workers are in for a prolonged nightmare.

And then the pollies will give each other a raise.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Spiny Norman said:

It’s all come crashing down. Those hospital workers are in for a prolonged nightmare.

And then the pollies will give each other a raise.

This is a time when I hate it when you are correct.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

It’s all come crashing down. Those hospital workers are in for a prolonged nightmare.

And then the pollies will give each other a raise.

This is a time when I hate it when you are correct.

where when…?

We had nothing here for two years and now we are up to more than a hundred new cases today. 483 in this Christmas outbreak.

roughbarked said:

We had nothing here for two years and now we are up to more than a hundred new cases today. 483 in this Christmas outbreak.

Just remember:

We’re not doing this for ourselves.

We’re not doing this for our country.

We’re doing this for Harvey Norman.

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Spiny Norman said:

It’s all come crashing down. Those hospital workers are in for a prolonged nightmare.

There is of course the real risk that they may come to the point where they simply can no longer cope.

Yes. People will go to hospitals looking for treatment and be turned away. Sent back home to die.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

We had nothing here for two years and now we are up to more than a hundred new cases today. 483 in this Christmas outbreak.

Just remember:

We’re not doing this for ourselves.

We’re not doing this for our country.

We’re doing this for Harvey Norman.

Well, maybe others are. Can’t say that I do.

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

We had nothing here for two years and now we are up to more than a hundred new cases today. 483 in this Christmas outbreak.

Just remember:

We’re not doing this for ourselves.

We’re not doing this for our country.

We’re doing this for Harvey Norman.

Well, maybe others are. Can’t say that I do.

Yeah. I know the gov’t gave Hardly, my money. It was not by my choice though.

Spiny Norman said:

That’s just cheap gutter politics.

Peak Warming Man said:

Spiny Norman said:

That’s just cheap gutter politics.

It is what he does.

Peak Warming Man said:

Spiny Norman said:

That’s just cheap gutter politics.

It seems that we’ve reached the point where the ‘cheap gutter politics’ curve and the ‘reality of the situation’ curve intersect.

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Spiny Norman said:

That’s just cheap gutter politics.

It seems that we’ve reached the point where the ‘cheap gutter politics’ curve and the ‘reality of the situation’ curve intersect.

Meaning that we need real politicians who do know where to go?

JudgeMental said:

OTT.

I’m triple vaxxed and I could still end up there.

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Spiny Norman said:

That’s just cheap gutter politics.

It is what he does.

You could knock one of those out for Qld, SA, Vic, Tas etc if you were so inclined.
It’s cheap shit from keyboard political warriors, fortunately most people will see it for what it is.

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

That’s just cheap gutter politics.

It is what he does.

You could knock one of those out for Qld, SA, Vic, Tas etc if you were so inclined.
It’s cheap shit from keyboard political warriors, fortunately most people will see it for what it is.

If they could, then why do they vote the way they do?

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

That’s just cheap gutter politics.

It is what he does.

You could knock one of those out for Qld, SA, Vic, Tas etc if you were so inclined.
It’s cheap shit from keyboard political warriors, fortunately most people will see it for what it is.

sooo if you could do it for other states then it seems entirely appropriate to do it for NSW. You can always make your own instead of whining.

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

That’s just cheap gutter politics.

It is what he does.

You could knock one of those out for Qld, SA, Vic, Tas etc if you were so inclined.
It’s cheap shit from keyboard political warriors, fortunately most people will see it for what it is.

NSW is where the outbreak started, and it spread to the rest of the country from there.

this one was meant to go here.

JudgeMental said:

this one was meant to go here.

QLD…

Would a COVID ward that had compressed air in it deliver more air to COVID patients?

Such a ward would need airlocks to enter and exit.

Just wondering.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Would a COVID ward that had compressed air in it deliver more air to COVID patients?

Such a ward would need airlocks to enter and exit.

Just wondering.

Dangerous.

Consider diving and “the bends”.

Michael V said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Would a COVID ward that had compressed air in it deliver more air to COVID patients?

Such a ward would need airlocks to enter and exit.

Just wondering.

Dangerous.

Consider diving and “the bends”.

In any case, it’s much easier to deliver oxygen and control rates of delivery by using masks or ventilators.

Michael V said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Would a COVID ward that had compressed air in it deliver more air to COVID patients?

Such a ward would need airlocks to enter and exit.

Just wondering.

Dangerous.

Consider diving and “the bends”.

Yes, a decompression room would be needed, in the airlock room I guess.

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Would a COVID ward that had compressed air in it deliver more air to COVID patients?

Such a ward would need airlocks to enter and exit.

Just wondering.

Dangerous.

Consider diving and “the bends”.

In any case, it’s much easier to deliver oxygen and control rates of delivery by using masks or ventilators.

Yes.

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Would a COVID ward that had compressed air in it deliver more air to COVID patients?

Such a ward would need airlocks to enter and exit.

Just wondering.

Dangerous.

Consider diving and “the bends”.

In any case, it’s much easier to deliver oxygen and control rates of delivery by using masks or ventilators.

The bends would not occur at the pressures posited.

Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

Dangerous.

Consider diving and “the bends”.

In any case, it’s much easier to deliver oxygen and control rates of delivery by using masks or ventilators.

The bends would not occur at the pressures posited.

Im not up with air pressures and getting the bends.

The air pressure would have to be worked out tested.

It might work, it might not, dunno.

Someone smarter can take over.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tamb said:

Michael V said:

In any case, it’s much easier to deliver oxygen and control rates of delivery by using masks or ventilators.

The bends would not occur at the pressures posited.

Im not up with air pressures and getting the bends.

The air pressure would have to be worked out tested.

It might work, it might not, dunno.

Someone smarter can take over.

I did a lot of scuba diving & no bends unless below 30 feet (1 atmosphere)

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tamb said:

Michael V said:

In any case, it’s much easier to deliver oxygen and control rates of delivery by using masks or ventilators.

The bends would not occur at the pressures posited.

Im not up with air pressures and getting the bends.

The air pressure would have to be worked out tested.

It might work, it might not, dunno.

Someone smarter can take over.

I’ll have a look at it later.

Peak Warming Man said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tamb said:

The bends would not occur at the pressures posited.

Im not up with air pressures and getting the bends.

The air pressure would have to be worked out tested.

It might work, it might not, dunno.

Someone smarter can take over.

I’ll have a look at it later.

Turning a patient over so that they face down, that can deliver 10 percent more oxygen.

Maybe a slight increase in air pressure may deliver some more air, I have no idea how much more though.

Unvaccinated Meme Twins BOTH Dead of COVID
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6×8xFoDwFo

sarahs mum said:

Unvaccinated Meme Twins BOTH Dead of COVID
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6×8xFoDwFo

“This video isn’t available any more”

Witty Rejoinder said:

sarahs mum said:

Unvaccinated Meme Twins BOTH Dead of COVID
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6×8xFoDwFo

“This video isn’t available any more”

how strange.

Witty Rejoinder said:

sarahs mum said:

Unvaccinated Meme Twins BOTH Dead of COVID
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6×8xFoDwFo

“This video isn’t available any more”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6×8xFoDwFo

Working here

link to story
https://www.newsweek.com/igor-bogdanoff-grichka-bogdanoff-coronavirus-died-covid-19-death-1665393

They both look like the joker from Batman

oh well.

Witty Rejoinder said:

sarahs mum said:

Unvaccinated Meme Twins BOTH Dead of COVID
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6×8xFoDwFo

“This video isn’t available any more”

the x strikes again

Tau.Neutrino said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

sarahs mum said:

Unvaccinated Meme Twins BOTH Dead of COVID
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6×8xFoDwFo

“This video isn’t available any more”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6×8xFoDwFo

Working here

link to story
https://www.newsweek.com/igor-bogdanoff-grichka-bogdanoff-coronavirus-died-covid-19-death-1665393

They both look like the joker from Batman

oh well.

I wonder if they would want the vaccine now?

He’s certainly popular, but for the wrong reasons.

Spiny Norman said:

He’s certainly popular, but for the wrong reasons.

you’ll upset PWM!!!

One could test it in a submarine I guess.

JudgeMental said:

Spiny Norman said:

He’s certainly popular, but for the wrong reasons.

you’ll upset PWM!!!

Get the truth handed to you often enough and it’ll hopefully sink in. It took me a while but it finally happened. I’m still embarrassed to think that I used to believe that the LNP did a great job.

Spiny Norman said:

JudgeMental said:

Spiny Norman said:

He’s certainly popular, but for the wrong reasons.

you’ll upset PWM!!!

Get the truth handed to you often enough and it’ll hopefully sink in. It took me a while but it finally happened. I’m still embarrassed to think that I used to believe that the LNP did a great job.

They do a fabulous job.

It’s not the job most of us would want them to do, and it benefits only those who are of benefit to the L/NP.

But they’re doing that job awfully well.

I said that.

sarahs mum said:

I said that.

Stay home unless strictly necessary.

Wear masks, observe social distancing when you absolutely have to go out.

And get your booster.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I said that.

Stay home unless strictly necessary.

Wear masks, observe social distancing when you absolutely have to go out.

And get your booster.

I am hoping I can get a booster without travelling to far…

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I said that.

Stay home unless strictly necessary.

Wear masks, observe social distancing when you absolutely have to go out.

And get your booster.

I am hoping I can get a booster without travelling to far…

too

I now have a niece and another great nephew down to covid. Aiden the non vaxxed, non verbal autistic teen has slept most of today and they are assuming he is also sick. Niece is pretty much his only caregiver.

sarahs mum said:

I now have a niece and another great nephew down to covid. Aiden the non vaxxed, non verbal autistic teen has slept most of today and they are assuming he is also sick. Niece is pretty much his only caregiver.

Bugger.

sarahs mum said:

I now have a niece and another great nephew down to covid. Aiden the non vaxxed, non verbal autistic teen has slept most of today and they are assuming he is also sick. Niece is pretty much his only caregiver.

Poor Aiden. Have to wonder what kind of future he has to look forward to.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I now have a niece and another great nephew down to covid. Aiden the non vaxxed, non verbal autistic teen has slept most of today and they are assuming he is also sick. Niece is pretty much his only caregiver.

Poor Aiden. Have to wonder what kind of future he has to look forward to.

He likes to bounce. And he likes Coles commericals. And logos. And apples. (I would have thought his diet would have caused some problems by now.)

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

I now have a niece and another great nephew down to covid. Aiden the non vaxxed, non verbal autistic teen has slept most of today and they are assuming he is also sick. Niece is pretty much his only caregiver.

Poor Aiden. Have to wonder what kind of future he has to look forward to.

He likes to bounce. And he likes Coles commericals. And logos. And apples. (I would have thought his diet would have caused some problems by now.)

:)

Hopefully he’ll find further caregivers as the years unfold.

sarahs mum said:

I now have a niece and another great nephew down to covid. Aiden the non vaxxed, non verbal autistic teen has slept most of today and they are assuming he is also sick. Niece is pretty much his only caregiver.

How is the niece going with it? Is she symptomatic and feeling ill?

party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

I now have a niece and another great nephew down to covid. Aiden the non vaxxed, non verbal autistic teen has slept most of today and they are assuming he is also sick. Niece is pretty much his only caregiver.

How is the niece going with it? Is she symptomatic and feeling ill?

‘sick but not really terrible’.

A US teacher has been arrested after allegedly locking her Covid-positive son in a car boot to protect herself from exposure to the virus as she drove to a testing site, say local media.

Sarah Beam, 41, is reportedly charged with endangering a child.

A witness called police after hearing someone in the vehicle’s trunk on 3 January at the site in Harris County, Texas, according to click2Houston.com.

The teacher reportedly opened the boot to reveal the boy lying inside.

Ms Beam said her 13-year-old son had tested positive for Covid-19 and she was taking him to the Pridgeon Stadium location for another test to confirm the result, according to local media.

She reportedly said she had placed the teenager in the car boot because she did not want to be infected herself.

A health worker told her she would not receive a coronavirus test until the boy was allowed to sit in the back seat of the car, reports ABC affiliate KTRK-TV.

Ms Beam has been working as a teacher at Cypress Falls High School since 2011, but is now on administrative leave, according to local media.

Cy-Fair ISD Police Department said: “CFPD was alerted that a child was in the trunk of a car at a drive-thru Covid-19 testing site earlier this week.

“Law enforcement conducted a full investigation, resulting in a warrant for arrest. Thankfully, the child was not harmed.”

Sgt Richard Standifer, of the Texas Department of Public Safety, told local TV station KHOU 11 that the boy could have been seriously hurt if the vehicle had ended up in a collision.

“I have never heard of somebody being put in a trunk because they tested positive for anything,” said Sgt Standifer.

monkey skipper said:

A US teacher has been arrested after allegedly locking her Covid-positive son in a car boot to protect herself from exposure to the virus as she drove to a testing site, say local media.

Sarah Beam, 41, is reportedly charged with endangering a child.

A witness called police after hearing someone in the vehicle’s trunk on 3 January at the site in Harris County, Texas, according to click2Houston.com.

The teacher reportedly opened the boot to reveal the boy lying inside.

Ms Beam said her 13-year-old son had tested positive for Covid-19 and she was taking him to the Pridgeon Stadium location for another test to confirm the result, according to local media.

She reportedly said she had placed the teenager in the car boot because she did not want to be infected herself.

A health worker told her she would not receive a coronavirus test until the boy was allowed to sit in the back seat of the car, reports ABC affiliate KTRK-TV.

Ms Beam has been working as a teacher at Cypress Falls High School since 2011, but is now on administrative leave, according to local media.

Cy-Fair ISD Police Department said: “CFPD was alerted that a child was in the trunk of a car at a drive-thru Covid-19 testing site earlier this week.

“Law enforcement conducted a full investigation, resulting in a warrant for arrest. Thankfully, the child was not harmed.”

Sgt Richard Standifer, of the Texas Department of Public Safety, told local TV station KHOU 11 that the boy could have been seriously hurt if the vehicle had ended up in a collision.

“I have never heard of somebody being put in a trunk because they tested positive for anything,” said Sgt Standifer.

If she had placed an N95 mask on herself and another N95 mask on the child, adhered to mask fit, sanitizing hands and drove with the windows down and air vents set to fresh, that would be sufficient, or just drive with a leash hanging out the window. Some people.

Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

A US teacher has been arrested after allegedly locking her Covid-positive son in a car boot to protect herself from exposure to the virus as she drove to a testing site, say local media.

Sarah Beam, 41, is reportedly charged with endangering a child.

A witness called police after hearing someone in the vehicle’s trunk on 3 January at the site in Harris County, Texas, according to click2Houston.com.

The teacher reportedly opened the boot to reveal the boy lying inside.

Ms Beam said her 13-year-old son had tested positive for Covid-19 and she was taking him to the Pridgeon Stadium location for another test to confirm the result, according to local media.

She reportedly said she had placed the teenager in the car boot because she did not want to be infected herself.

A health worker told her she would not receive a coronavirus test until the boy was allowed to sit in the back seat of the car, reports ABC affiliate KTRK-TV.

Ms Beam has been working as a teacher at Cypress Falls High School since 2011, but is now on administrative leave, according to local media.

Cy-Fair ISD Police Department said: “CFPD was alerted that a child was in the trunk of a car at a drive-thru Covid-19 testing site earlier this week.

“Law enforcement conducted a full investigation, resulting in a warrant for arrest. Thankfully, the child was not harmed.”

Sgt Richard Standifer, of the Texas Department of Public Safety, told local TV station KHOU 11 that the boy could have been seriously hurt if the vehicle had ended up in a collision.

“I have never heard of somebody being put in a trunk because they tested positive for anything,” said Sgt Standifer.

If she had placed an N95 mask on herself and another N95 mask on the child, adhered to mask fit, sanitizing hands and drove with the windows down and air vents set to fresh, that would be sufficient, or just drive with a leash hanging out the window. Some people.

I’m glad this wasn’t discovered , somebody who thinks like this shouldn’t be in the teaching profession clearly.

monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

A US teacher has been arrested after allegedly locking her Covid-positive son in a car boot to protect herself from exposure to the virus as she drove to a testing site, say local media.

Sarah Beam, 41, is reportedly charged with endangering a child.

A witness called police after hearing someone in the vehicle’s trunk on 3 January at the site in Harris County, Texas, according to click2Houston.com.

The teacher reportedly opened the boot to reveal the boy lying inside.

Ms Beam said her 13-year-old son had tested positive for Covid-19 and she was taking him to the Pridgeon Stadium location for another test to confirm the result, according to local media.

She reportedly said she had placed the teenager in the car boot because she did not want to be infected herself.

A health worker told her she would not receive a coronavirus test until the boy was allowed to sit in the back seat of the car, reports ABC affiliate KTRK-TV.

Ms Beam has been working as a teacher at Cypress Falls High School since 2011, but is now on administrative leave, according to local media.

Cy-Fair ISD Police Department said: “CFPD was alerted that a child was in the trunk of a car at a drive-thru Covid-19 testing site earlier this week.

“Law enforcement conducted a full investigation, resulting in a warrant for arrest. Thankfully, the child was not harmed.”

Sgt Richard Standifer, of the Texas Department of Public Safety, told local TV station KHOU 11 that the boy could have been seriously hurt if the vehicle had ended up in a collision.

“I have never heard of somebody being put in a trunk because they tested positive for anything,” said Sgt Standifer.

If she had placed an N95 mask on herself and another N95 mask on the child, adhered to mask fit, sanitizing hands and drove with the windows down and air vents set to fresh, that would be sufficient, or just drive with a leash hanging out the window. Some people.

corrected

I’m glad this” was” discovered , somebody who thinks like this shouldn’t be in the teaching profession clearly.

monkey skipper said:

monkey skipper said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

If she had placed an N95 mask on herself and another N95 mask on the child, adhered to mask fit, sanitizing hands and drove with the windows down and air vents set to fresh, that would be sufficient, or just drive with a leash hanging out the window. Some people.

corrected

I’m glad this” was” discovered , somebody who thinks like this shouldn’t be in the teaching profession clearly.

I give her marks for creativity, but a big fail on the implementation. It is a bit dangerous.

party_pants said:

monkey skipper said:

monkey skipper said:

corrected

I’m glad this” was” discovered , somebody who thinks like this shouldn’t be in the teaching profession clearly.

I give her marks for creativity, but a big fail on the implementation. It is a bit dangerous.

on the other hand plenty of disinformation going around that putting masks on any child under 80 years of age (including American adult babies) is child abuse so maybe she did the right thing

fsm said:

Was Turnbull vaccinated?

The greatest at risk group for cases in Australia over all time, is 20 to 29 year olds.

The greatest at risk group for deaths in Australia over all time is 80 to 89 year olds.

So if you’re aged 80 to 89 then don’t go anywhere near any person ages 20 to 29.

Aiden is much worse tonight.

sarahs mum said:

Aiden is much worse tonight.

:(

According to NSW Health figures, around one in 12 people aged between 20 and 29, or about eight per cent of people in this age group, have caught the virus over the past month — about double the prevalence reported among people in their 30s.

And with the backlog in PCR testing and a growing reliance on rapid antigen tests, the true share of young adults infected is likely to be much, much higher.

“It’s definitely a minimum, it could be double that,” says Deakin University epidemiologist Catherine Bennett. But this explosion of cases in young people is far from surprising, she says. The rapid spread of the Omicron strain may also mean it soon starts to run out of susceptible people in their 20s, who are the most likely to transmit it widely.

University of Sydney epidemiologist James McCaw says Omicron’s spread among young, generally healthy people is in line with what is being seen internationally. As a result, for weeks he’s been calling for the temporary closure of nightclubs and similar venues.

“The vast majority of those younger people, particularly if they’re double vaccinated or boosted, are not going to get severely ill,” he says. “The reason we still need to slow the spread in that youngest adult age group is because they are the catalyst for infection in communities where we sill see morbidity, hospitalisation, and death.”

more: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-09/twenty-somethings-driving-nsw-omicron-covid19-wave/100745538

roughbarked said:

According to NSW Health figures, around one in 12 people aged between 20 and 29, or about eight per cent of people in this age group, have caught the virus over the past month — about double the prevalence reported among people in their 30s.

And with the backlog in PCR testing and a growing reliance on rapid antigen tests, the true share of young adults infected is likely to be much, much higher.

“It’s definitely a minimum, it could be double that,” says Deakin University epidemiologist Catherine Bennett. But this explosion of cases in young people is far from surprising, she says. The rapid spread of the Omicron strain may also mean it soon starts to run out of susceptible people in their 20s, who are the most likely to transmit it widely.

University of Sydney epidemiologist James McCaw says Omicron’s spread among young, generally healthy people is in line with what is being seen internationally. As a result, for weeks he’s been calling for the temporary closure of nightclubs and similar venues.

“The vast majority of those younger people, particularly if they’re double vaccinated or boosted, are not going to get severely ill,” he says. “The reason we still need to slow the spread in that youngest adult age group is because they are the catalyst for infection in communities where we sill see morbidity, hospitalisation, and death.”

more: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-09/twenty-somethings-driving-nsw-omicron-covid19-wave/100745538

well good on them for taking 1, 2, 3, 40 rounds of brain damage for the team

ahahahahahahahaha

The overwhelming number of deaths, over 75%, occurred in people who had at least 4 comorbidities. So really these are people who were unwell to begin with and yes, really encouraging news in the context of Omicron.

that’s right you can all fkn go and die

SCIENCE said:

ahahahahahahahaha

The overwhelming number of deaths, over 75%, occurred in people who had at least 4 comorbidities. So really these are people who were unwell to begin with and yes, really encouraging news in the context of Omicron.

that’s right you can all fkn go and die

good news you can even self-fulfil[l] the covidiocy

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7102e2.htm?s_cid=mm7102e2_w

A snow leopard at a zoo in Bloomington, Illinois, has died after contracting Covid-19.

Miller Park Zoo announced the death of Rilu, 11, which the zoo previously said “began coughing and had a raspy respiration beginning on 20 November”, in an Instagram post on Thursday.

Noting the animal’s spectacular tail, which was almost as long as its body, the zoo said Rilu produced seven offspring which are now part of its Species Survival Plan.

“Rilu’s personality and beauty will be missed by guests and staff but he will not be forgotten,” said superintendent Jay Tetzloff, adding that masks are required in all indoor spaces at the Bloomington zoo.

According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), most animal Covid infections come from contact with humans “including owners, caretakers or others in close contact”.

“Snow leopards are proving extremely susceptible to the disease and it’s often fatal,” Sartore said. “If you haven’t received a vaccination and booster yet, please do so. It’s more than just human lives that are at stake. Thank you.”

In December, three snow leopards at the Lincoln Children’s Zoo in Nebraska died of complications from Covid-19. Two Sumatran tigers recovered.

In July, zoos in Oakland and Denver announced they would start vaccinating tigers, bears and other mammals with a two-dose vaccine first administered in March to gorillas in San Diego.

Zoetis, a New Jersey animal health company, has said it has donated more than 11,000 vaccine doses to almost 70 zoos and wildlife sanctuaries, as part of an effort authorised by the US Department of Agriculture.

In December, two hippos at a zoo in Antwerp, Belgium, tested positive for Covid-19. Imani, 14, and Hermien, 41, showed no symptoms “other than runny noses”, the zoo said.

Francis Vercammen, a zoo vet, told CNN: “To my knowledge, this is the first known contamination in this species.

This will be an area where vaccinating pets will become a necessity and vaccinating zoo animals. Part of the covid purse for funding research and the development of vaccines should be set aside for this as there might be a new risk created if people don’t do this as there may be a new strain that develops in pets or zoo animals and potentially live stock that starts this problem all over again.

monkey skipper said:

A snow leopard at a zoo in Bloomington, Illinois, has died after contracting Covid-19.

Miller Park Zoo announced the death of Rilu, 11, which the zoo previously said “began coughing and had a raspy respiration beginning on 20 November”, in an Instagram post on Thursday.

Noting the animal’s spectacular tail, which was almost as long as its body, the zoo said Rilu produced seven offspring which are now part of its Species Survival Plan.

“Rilu’s personality and beauty will be missed by guests and staff but he will not be forgotten,” said superintendent Jay Tetzloff, adding that masks are required in all indoor spaces at the Bloomington zoo.

According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), most animal Covid infections come from contact with humans “including owners, caretakers or others in close contact”.

“Snow leopards are proving extremely susceptible to the disease and it’s often fatal,” Sartore said. “If you haven’t received a vaccination and booster yet, please do so. It’s more than just human lives that are at stake. Thank you.”

In December, three snow leopards at the Lincoln Children’s Zoo in Nebraska died of complications from Covid-19. Two Sumatran tigers recovered.

In July, zoos in Oakland and Denver announced they would start vaccinating tigers, bears and other mammals with a two-dose vaccine first administered in March to gorillas in San Diego.

Zoetis, a New Jersey animal health company, has said it has donated more than 11,000 vaccine doses to almost 70 zoos and wildlife sanctuaries, as part of an effort authorised by the US Department of Agriculture.

In December, two hippos at a zoo in Antwerp, Belgium, tested positive for Covid-19. Imani, 14, and Hermien, 41, showed no symptoms “other than runny noses”, the zoo said.

Francis Vercammen, a zoo vet, told CNN: “To my knowledge, this is the first known contamination in this species.

mollwollfumble said:

The greatest at risk group for cases in Australia over all time, is 20 to 29 year olds.

The greatest at risk group for deaths in Australia over all time is 80 to 89 year olds.

So if you’re aged 80 to 89 then don’t go anywhere near any person ages 20 to 29.

I think the case numbers probably suffer from quite a big confounding factor.

With testing lines long, a good proportion of over 70s (and a reasonable proportion of over 60s) would not be physically able to line up for a test. No toilet facilities being a pretty big factor. Thinking about my patient cohort that I looked after optometrically for over 30 years (I did mostly older person work), most of them would not have been able to do it. The older people are largely vaccinated now, and on top of their vaccination may well have had the relevent corona virus colds in the last couple of years that confer some cross immunity. They also have experience of having a cold or two every year and know how to deal with that. Anecdote – my parents had several colds each year as older folk. I suspect the older cohorts are under represented in the testing figures. Possibly by quite a large amount.

Young people on the other hand, have strong bladders and can stand for hours in a queue. You also wouldn’t want to be too pregnant and have to queue.

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

The greatest at risk group for cases in Australia over all time, is 20 to 29 year olds.

The greatest at risk group for deaths in Australia over all time is 80 to 89 year olds.

So if you’re aged 80 to 89 then don’t go anywhere near any person ages 20 to 29.

I think the case numbers probably suffer from quite a big confounding factor.

With testing lines long, a good proportion of over 70s (and a reasonable proportion of over 60s) would not be physically able to line up for a test. No toilet facilities being a pretty big factor. Thinking about my patient cohort that I looked after optometrically for over 30 years (I did mostly older person work), most of them would not have been able to do it. The older people are largely vaccinated now, and on top of their vaccination may well have had the relevent corona virus colds in the last couple of years that confer some cross immunity. They also have experience of having a cold or two every year and know how to deal with that. Anecdote – my parents had several colds each year as older folk. I suspect the older cohorts are under represented in the testing figures. Possibly by quite a large amount.

Young people on the other hand, have strong bladders and can stand for hours in a queue. You also wouldn’t want to be too pregnant and have to queue.

Did moll just realise older people die?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

Still lots of active cases. Deaths not happening.

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/pandemic-politics-fuelling-right-wing-response,15913

Australia’s death statistics for the last couple of years are pretty much same old same old when compared to the 2015-2019 rates. Cancer deaths are at or above the range. But most of the other causes don’t seem to have been affected by the odd world.

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/jan-2020-oct-2021

This comment is interesting:

The age-standardised death rate (SDR) for January to October 2021 was 357.8 per 100,000 people. This is comparable to 2020, where an SDR of 355.3 per 100,000 people was recorded for the same period.

The SDR of 357.8 per 100,000 is below the average rate for 2015-2019 which recorded an SDR of 386.5.

And the long term graphs.

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/life-expectancy-death/deaths-in-australia/contents/trends-in-deaths

And if you really want to test your eyesight…

https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/B20CBA5397FE949BCA2587AC007C0138/$File/nndssreport.pdf

poikilotherm said:

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

The greatest at risk group for cases in Australia over all time, is 20 to 29 year olds.

The greatest at risk group for deaths in Australia over all time is 80 to 89 year olds.

So if you’re aged 80 to 89 then don’t go anywhere near any person ages 20 to 29.

I think the case numbers probably suffer from quite a big confounding factor.

With testing lines long, a good proportion of over 70s (and a reasonable proportion of over 60s) would not be physically able to line up for a test. No toilet facilities being a pretty big factor. Thinking about my patient cohort that I looked after optometrically for over 30 years (I did mostly older person work), most of them would not have been able to do it. The older people are largely vaccinated now, and on top of their vaccination may well have had the relevent corona virus colds in the last couple of years that confer some cross immunity. They also have experience of having a cold or two every year and know how to deal with that. Anecdote – my parents had several colds each year as older folk. I suspect the older cohorts are under represented in the testing figures. Possibly by quite a large amount.

Young people on the other hand, have strong bladders and can stand for hours in a queue. You also wouldn’t want to be too pregnant and have to queue.

Did moll just realise older people die?

Seems like it.

:)

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

ahahahahahahahaha

The overwhelming number of deaths, over 75%, occurred in people who had at least 4 comorbidities. So really these are people who were unwell to begin with and yes, really encouraging news in the context of Omicron.

that’s right you can all fkn go and die

good news you can even self-fulfil[l] the covidiocy

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7102e2.htm?s_cid=mm7102e2_w

eventually most people won’t really go to any trouble differentiating the pathogen from their notions of the pathogen that facilitate it being anywhere, and fairly much everywhere, that’s the trajectory, the program

the former (otherwise) requires types of discrimination

Although Sebastian’s official cause of death was both Niemann-Pick and COVID-19, according to his mother, he was not counted among the nine people who died in the latest reporting period.

Oh, a high number,

In the 24 hours to 8pm on Saturday, 16 people died from COVID and 30,062 official cases were recorded.

better fudge it into an average case analysis instead,

When analysing the seven-day average, around eight deaths are currently being reported a day and the state is approaching the peak of deaths recorded between September and October 2021, when just under 11 deaths were being reported each day.

nice one ¡

Is NSW including rapid test results in the total or is only Victoria doing that? I see from the ABC news item the Vic numbers will now be compromised with people rapid testing positive and then PCRing being counted twice.

imagine deliberate undercounting and official manipulation of numbers being compromised by potential double posting by a few individuals that couldn’t possibly be identified damn

ring ring
Boss: Hello.
Trevor I ah……….I wont be in for a week
Boss: What’s the trouble this time Trevor?
Trevor: Umm……………I………………I’ve tested positive on……..on ah………..on one of those rat things and I can come to work for 7 days.
Boss: I see.

buffy said:

Is NSW including rapid test results in the total or is only Victoria doing that? I see from the ABC news item the Vic numbers will now be compromised with people rapid testing positive and then PCRing being counted twice.

As long as the same name and date of birth are added by the person with the RAT, then the database sorts it out, according to your COVID Commander.

SCIENCE said:

imagine deliberate undercounting and official manipulation of numbers being compromised by potential double posting by a few individuals that couldn’t possibly be identified damn

yeah’s fairly much it, swamped by the inevitable undersampling, the undercount, the undermeasure, which by some accident that serves intentions results in covid doing what covid does, multiplying, jumping host to host, making good the program of endemic covid, exposure toward live-virus-boosted-immunity, herd immunity

been happening for a while, TV announces today’s covid numbers like a new record broken, as if the audience is meant to cheer for their winning side, analogous to watching sport enthusiastically

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

imagine deliberate undercounting and official manipulation of numbers being compromised by potential double posting by a few individuals that couldn’t possibly be identified damn

yeah’s fairly much it, swamped by the inevitable undersampling, the undercount, the undermeasure, which by some accident that serves intentions results in covid doing what covid does, multiplying, jumping host to host, making good the program of endemic covid, exposure toward live-virus-boosted-immunity, herd immunity

been happening for a while, TV announces today’s covid numbers like a new record broken, as if the audience is meant to cheer for their winning side, analogous to watching sport enthusiastically

any duplication would be swamped by intentional underfinding

By Anthony Galloway

January 9, 2022 — 4.01pm

Federal Labor leader Whatsisname has accused the Perrottet and Morrison governments of pursuing a “let it rip” approach in opening up from the COVID-19 pandemic, saying there were now major issues with the hospital system.

NSW on Sunday recorded its deadliest day since the COVID-19 pandemic began in January 2020, with 30,062 new cases and 16 deaths. Victoria reported 44,155 cases and four deaths.

Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt on Sunday moved to calm Australians about the surge, saying it was “very heartening” that there were only 76 patients on ventilators across the country and two thirds of people in hospital were unvaccinated.

But in some of his strongest comments yet about the federal government’s strategy of opening up, Mr Whatsisname said “everything isn’t all okay in the health system in NSW”.

NSW records more than 30,000 new COVID-19 cases and 16 deaths
“There are major issues with the pressure on the hospital systems. And that’s a direct result of some of the attitude of the NSW government and the federal government,” he said.

“The truth is this. The ‘let it rip’ approach is tearing communities apart. That’s the truth.”
Whatsisname appeared to be taking aim at NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet for relaxing restrictions on mask and QR code use in December, just as the Omicron variant was taking off.

The Labor leader also accused the Morrison government of creating problems because of a failure to plan ahead, saying it was too slow to order both vaccines and rapid antigen tests.

Mr Hunt said despite the significant increase in Omicron cases, which is “clearly vastly more transmissible”, the health impact is less severe. “And that’s being seen in the number of people in either ICU or in particular, those who are most still on ventilation, with the reports being from the states that up to two thirds of those in ICU remain unvaccinated,” he said.

“And so if you have not been vaccinated, please come forward to be vaccinated. It can protect you … It can reduce the risk of serious complications.”

The nation’s Deputy Chief Medical Officer, Michael Kidd, said Australia was still focused on preventing people from being infected, but also recommended households stock up on basic medical supplies to manage mild COVID-19 illnesses at home.

“If infected with COVID-19, many of us will have no symptoms at all. Some of us will have mild symptoms, which can be managed at home, and a very small number of us will require medical care or hospital admission,” Professor Kidd said.

“The first thing to do is to be prepared. My advice is that you make sure you have some paracetamol or ibuprofen at home in case you’re diagnosed with COVID-19. Paracetamol or ibuprofen can be used to manage fever and aches and pains.”

Mr Perrottet last Friday denied the state’s record caseload could have been avoided if restrictions had not been eased in mid-December.

“We’ve always said we will tailor our settings to the circumstances that we face,” he said, describing the new restrictions as “proportionate and sensible” in light of NSW’s highly vaccinated population.

JudgeMental said:

By Anthony Galloway

January 9, 2022 — 4.01pm

Federal Labor leader Whatsisname has accused the Perrottet and Morrison governments of pursuing a “let it rip” approach in opening up from the COVID-19 pandemic, saying there were now major issues with the hospital system.

NSW on Sunday recorded its deadliest day since the COVID-19 pandemic began in January 2020, with 30,062 new cases and 16 deaths. Victoria reported 44,155 cases and four deaths.

Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt on Sunday moved to calm Australians about the surge, saying it was “very heartening” that there were only 76 patients on ventilators across the country and two thirds of people in hospital were unvaccinated.

But in some of his strongest comments yet about the federal government’s strategy of opening up, Mr Whatsisname said “everything isn’t all okay in the health system in NSW”.

NSW records more than 30,000 new COVID-19 cases and 16 deaths
“There are major issues with the pressure on the hospital systems. And that’s a direct result of some of the attitude of the NSW government and the federal government,” he said.

“The truth is this. The ‘let it rip’ approach is tearing communities apart. That’s the truth.”
Whatsisname appeared to be taking aim at NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet for relaxing restrictions on mask and QR code use in December, just as the Omicron variant was taking off.

The Labor leader also accused the Morrison government of creating problems because of a failure to plan ahead, saying it was too slow to order both vaccines and rapid antigen tests.

Mr Hunt said despite the significant increase in Omicron cases, which is “clearly vastly more transmissible”, the health impact is less severe. “And that’s being seen in the number of people in either ICU or in particular, those who are most still on ventilation, with the reports being from the states that up to two thirds of those in ICU remain unvaccinated,” he said.

“And so if you have not been vaccinated, please come forward to be vaccinated. It can protect you … It can reduce the risk of serious complications.”

The nation’s Deputy Chief Medical Officer, Michael Kidd, said Australia was still focused on preventing people from being infected, but also recommended households stock up on basic medical supplies to manage mild COVID-19 illnesses at home.

“If infected with COVID-19, many of us will have no symptoms at all. Some of us will have mild symptoms, which can be managed at home, and a very small number of us will require medical care or hospital admission,” Professor Kidd said.

“The first thing to do is to be prepared. My advice is that you make sure you have some paracetamol or ibuprofen at home in case you’re diagnosed with COVID-19. Paracetamol or ibuprofen can be used to manage fever and aches and pains.”

Mr Perrottet last Friday denied the state’s record caseload could have been avoided if restrictions had not been eased in mid-December.

“We’ve always said we will tailor our settings to the circumstances that we face,” he said, describing the new restrictions as “proportionate and sensible” in light of NSW’s highly vaccinated population.

And yet when I make a great joke about Whatsisname all you do is scoff. Unbelievable.

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

By Anthony Galloway

January 9, 2022 — 4.01pm

Federal Labor leader Whatsisname has accused the Perrottet and Morrison governments of pursuing a “let it rip” approach in opening up from the COVID-19 pandemic, saying there were now major issues with the hospital system.

NSW on Sunday recorded its deadliest day since the COVID-19 pandemic began in January 2020, with 30,062 new cases and 16 deaths. Victoria reported 44,155 cases and four deaths.

Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt on Sunday moved to calm Australians about the surge, saying it was “very heartening” that there were only 76 patients on ventilators across the country and two thirds of people in hospital were unvaccinated.

But in some of his strongest comments yet about the federal government’s strategy of opening up, Mr Whatsisname said “everything isn’t all okay in the health system in NSW”.

NSW records more than 30,000 new COVID-19 cases and 16 deaths
“There are major issues with the pressure on the hospital systems. And that’s a direct result of some of the attitude of the NSW government and the federal government,” he said.

“The truth is this. The ‘let it rip’ approach is tearing communities apart. That’s the truth.”
Whatsisname appeared to be taking aim at NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet for relaxing restrictions on mask and QR code use in December, just as the Omicron variant was taking off.

The Labor leader also accused the Morrison government of creating problems because of a failure to plan ahead, saying it was too slow to order both vaccines and rapid antigen tests.

Mr Hunt said despite the significant increase in Omicron cases, which is “clearly vastly more transmissible”, the health impact is less severe. “And that’s being seen in the number of people in either ICU or in particular, those who are most still on ventilation, with the reports being from the states that up to two thirds of those in ICU remain unvaccinated,” he said.

“And so if you have not been vaccinated, please come forward to be vaccinated. It can protect you … It can reduce the risk of serious complications.”

The nation’s Deputy Chief Medical Officer, Michael Kidd, said Australia was still focused on preventing people from being infected, but also recommended households stock up on basic medical supplies to manage mild COVID-19 illnesses at home.

“If infected with COVID-19, many of us will have no symptoms at all. Some of us will have mild symptoms, which can be managed at home, and a very small number of us will require medical care or hospital admission,” Professor Kidd said.

“The first thing to do is to be prepared. My advice is that you make sure you have some paracetamol or ibuprofen at home in case you’re diagnosed with COVID-19. Paracetamol or ibuprofen can be used to manage fever and aches and pains.”

Mr Perrottet last Friday denied the state’s record caseload could have been avoided if restrictions had not been eased in mid-December.

“We’ve always said we will tailor our settings to the circumstances that we face,” he said, describing the new restrictions as “proportionate and sensible” in light of NSW’s highly vaccinated population.

And yet when I make a great joke about Whatsisname all you do is scoff. Unbelievable.

scoff. scoff.

JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

By Anthony Galloway

January 9, 2022 — 4.01pm

Federal Labor leader Whatsisname has accused the Perrottet and Morrison governments of pursuing a “let it rip” approach in opening up from the COVID-19 pandemic, saying there were now major issues with the hospital system.

NSW on Sunday recorded its deadliest day since the COVID-19 pandemic began in January 2020, with 30,062 new cases and 16 deaths. Victoria reported 44,155 cases and four deaths.

Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt on Sunday moved to calm Australians about the surge, saying it was “very heartening” that there were only 76 patients on ventilators across the country and two thirds of people in hospital were unvaccinated.

But in some of his strongest comments yet about the federal government’s strategy of opening up, Mr Whatsisname said “everything isn’t all okay in the health system in NSW”.

NSW records more than 30,000 new COVID-19 cases and 16 deaths
“There are major issues with the pressure on the hospital systems. And that’s a direct result of some of the attitude of the NSW government and the federal government,” he said.

“The truth is this. The ‘let it rip’ approach is tearing communities apart. That’s the truth.”
Whatsisname appeared to be taking aim at NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet for relaxing restrictions on mask and QR code use in December, just as the Omicron variant was taking off.

The Labor leader also accused the Morrison government of creating problems because of a failure to plan ahead, saying it was too slow to order both vaccines and rapid antigen tests.

Mr Hunt said despite the significant increase in Omicron cases, which is “clearly vastly more transmissible”, the health impact is less severe. “And that’s being seen in the number of people in either ICU or in particular, those who are most still on ventilation, with the reports being from the states that up to two thirds of those in ICU remain unvaccinated,” he said.

“And so if you have not been vaccinated, please come forward to be vaccinated. It can protect you … It can reduce the risk of serious complications.”

The nation’s Deputy Chief Medical Officer, Michael Kidd, said Australia was still focused on preventing people from being infected, but also recommended households stock up on basic medical supplies to manage mild COVID-19 illnesses at home.

“If infected with COVID-19, many of us will have no symptoms at all. Some of us will have mild symptoms, which can be managed at home, and a very small number of us will require medical care or hospital admission,” Professor Kidd said.

“The first thing to do is to be prepared. My advice is that you make sure you have some paracetamol or ibuprofen at home in case you’re diagnosed with COVID-19. Paracetamol or ibuprofen can be used to manage fever and aches and pains.”

Mr Perrottet last Friday denied the state’s record caseload could have been avoided if restrictions had not been eased in mid-December.

“We’ve always said we will tailor our settings to the circumstances that we face,” he said, describing the new restrictions as “proportionate and sensible” in light of NSW’s highly vaccinated population.

And yet when I make a great joke about Whatsisname all you do is scoff. Unbelievable.

scoff. scoff.

Scoff

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

By Anthony Galloway

January 9, 2022 — 4.01pm

Federal Labor leader Whatsisname has accused the Perrottet and Morrison governments of pursuing a “let it rip” approach in opening up from the COVID-19 pandemic, saying there were now major issues with the hospital system.

NSW on Sunday recorded its deadliest day since the COVID-19 pandemic began in January 2020, with 30,062 new cases and 16 deaths. Victoria reported 44,155 cases and four deaths.

Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt on Sunday moved to calm Australians about the surge, saying it was “very heartening” that there were only 76 patients on ventilators across the country and two thirds of people in hospital were unvaccinated.

But in some of his strongest comments yet about the federal government’s strategy of opening up, Mr Whatsisname said “everything isn’t all okay in the health system in NSW”.

NSW records more than 30,000 new COVID-19 cases and 16 deaths
“There are major issues with the pressure on the hospital systems. And that’s a direct result of some of the attitude of the NSW government and the federal government,” he said.

“The truth is this. The ‘let it rip’ approach is tearing communities apart. That’s the truth.”
Whatsisname appeared to be taking aim at NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet for relaxing restrictions on mask and QR code use in December, just as the Omicron variant was taking off.

The Labor leader also accused the Morrison government of creating problems because of a failure to plan ahead, saying it was too slow to order both vaccines and rapid antigen tests.

Mr Hunt said despite the significant increase in Omicron cases, which is “clearly vastly more transmissible”, the health impact is less severe. “And that’s being seen in the number of people in either ICU or in particular, those who are most still on ventilation, with the reports being from the states that up to two thirds of those in ICU remain unvaccinated,” he said.

“And so if you have not been vaccinated, please come forward to be vaccinated. It can protect you … It can reduce the risk of serious complications.”

The nation’s Deputy Chief Medical Officer, Michael Kidd, said Australia was still focused on preventing people from being infected, but also recommended households stock up on basic medical supplies to manage mild COVID-19 illnesses at home.

“If infected with COVID-19, many of us will have no symptoms at all. Some of us will have mild symptoms, which can be managed at home, and a very small number of us will require medical care or hospital admission,” Professor Kidd said.

“The first thing to do is to be prepared. My advice is that you make sure you have some paracetamol or ibuprofen at home in case you’re diagnosed with COVID-19. Paracetamol or ibuprofen can be used to manage fever and aches and pains.”

Mr Perrottet last Friday denied the state’s record caseload could have been avoided if restrictions had not been eased in mid-December.

“We’ve always said we will tailor our settings to the circumstances that we face,” he said, describing the new restrictions as “proportionate and sensible” in light of NSW’s highly vaccinated population.

And yet when I make a great joke about Whatsisname all you do is scoff. Unbelievable.

I thought he was the opposition deputy.

sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

By Anthony Galloway

January 9, 2022 — 4.01pm

Federal Labor leader Whatsisname has accused the Perrottet and Morrison governments of pursuing a “let it rip” approach in opening up from the COVID-19 pandemic, saying there were now major issues with the hospital system.

NSW on Sunday recorded its deadliest day since the COVID-19 pandemic began in January 2020, with 30,062 new cases and 16 deaths. Victoria reported 44,155 cases and four deaths.

Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt on Sunday moved to calm Australians about the surge, saying it was “very heartening” that there were only 76 patients on ventilators across the country and two thirds of people in hospital were unvaccinated.

But in some of his strongest comments yet about the federal government’s strategy of opening up, Mr Whatsisname said “everything isn’t all okay in the health system in NSW”.

NSW records more than 30,000 new COVID-19 cases and 16 deaths
“There are major issues with the pressure on the hospital systems. And that’s a direct result of some of the attitude of the NSW government and the federal government,” he said.

“The truth is this. The ‘let it rip’ approach is tearing communities apart. That’s the truth.”
Whatsisname appeared to be taking aim at NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet for relaxing restrictions on mask and QR code use in December, just as the Omicron variant was taking off.

The Labor leader also accused the Morrison government of creating problems because of a failure to plan ahead, saying it was too slow to order both vaccines and rapid antigen tests.

Mr Hunt said despite the significant increase in Omicron cases, which is “clearly vastly more transmissible”, the health impact is less severe. “And that’s being seen in the number of people in either ICU or in particular, those who are most still on ventilation, with the reports being from the states that up to two thirds of those in ICU remain unvaccinated,” he said.

“And so if you have not been vaccinated, please come forward to be vaccinated. It can protect you … It can reduce the risk of serious complications.”

The nation’s Deputy Chief Medical Officer, Michael Kidd, said Australia was still focused on preventing people from being infected, but also recommended households stock up on basic medical supplies to manage mild COVID-19 illnesses at home.

“If infected with COVID-19, many of us will have no symptoms at all. Some of us will have mild symptoms, which can be managed at home, and a very small number of us will require medical care or hospital admission,” Professor Kidd said.

“The first thing to do is to be prepared. My advice is that you make sure you have some paracetamol or ibuprofen at home in case you’re diagnosed with COVID-19. Paracetamol or ibuprofen can be used to manage fever and aches and pains.”

Mr Perrottet last Friday denied the state’s record caseload could have been avoided if restrictions had not been eased in mid-December.

“We’ve always said we will tailor our settings to the circumstances that we face,” he said, describing the new restrictions as “proportionate and sensible” in light of NSW’s highly vaccinated population.

And yet when I make a great joke about Whatsisname all you do is scoff. Unbelievable.

I thought he was the opposition deputy.

Who the heck is that? No, seriously, I don’t know…

furious said:

sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

And yet when I make a great joke about Whatsisname all you do is scoff. Unbelievable.

I thought he was the opposition deputy.

Who the heck is that? No, seriously, I don’t know…

marles

JudgeMental said:

furious said:

sarahs mum said:

I thought he was the opposition deputy.

Who the heck is that? No, seriously, I don’t know…

marles

Have never seen, or heard of, him…

furious said:

JudgeMental said:

furious said:

Who the heck is that? No, seriously, I don’t know…

marles

Have never seen, or heard of, him…

He keeps a low profile so as to not over shadow Albo.

sibeen said:

furious said:

JudgeMental said:

marles

Have never seen, or heard of, him…

He keeps a low profile so as to not over shadow Albo.

Now you’re pulling my leg, what’s an Albo?

sibeen said:

furious said:

JudgeMental said:

marles

Have never seen, or heard of, him…

He keeps a low profile so as to not over shadow Albo.

Heh

furious said:

sibeen said:

furious said:

Have never seen, or heard of, him…

He keeps a low profile so as to not over shadow Albo.

Now you’re pulling my leg, what’s an Albo?

someone lacking pigment. usually have pink eyes.

JudgeMental said:

furious said:

sibeen said:

He keeps a low profile so as to not over shadow Albo.

Now you’re pulling my leg, what’s an Albo?

someone lacking pigment. usually have pink eyes.

anthony albanese, opposition leader.

JudgeMental said:

JudgeMental said:

furious said:

Now you’re pulling my leg, what’s an Albo?

someone lacking pigment. usually have pink eyes.

anthony albanese, opposition leader.

Yeah, I know, I was just running with the flow…

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Vilfredo Federico Damaso says

We Should Be More Like Israel Or Iran Or Ireland ¡

SCIENCE said:

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Vilfredo Federico Damaso says

We Should Be More Like Israel Or Iran Or Ireland ¡

Such a bad chart, I mean, who is top left?

furious said:

SCIENCE said:

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Vilfredo Federico Damaso says

We Should Be More Like Israel Or Iran Or Ireland ¡

Such a bad chart, I mean, who is top left?

yeah dunno we admit we just blindly reposted without source checking so it could all be fabricated

Bannockburn Pharmacy

FREE Rapid Antigen Test to Concessional Card holders – IMPORTANT INFORMATION/UPDATE

It came to our attention late Friday that the Federal Government WILL NOT be providing RAT’s DIRECTLY to pharmacies to give away for free to concessional card holders as per their announcement last Wednesday.

Pharmacies were under the impression that the Federal Government would be allocating stock they have ordered directly to us pharmacies. This would have meant that pharmacies would have received stock around the same time making it easier for the community (if they hold a concessional card) to know when they could start collecting them. But this is not the case.

Instead we have been informed the Federal Government expect pharmacies to source their own RAT’s to give away to concessional card holders and then somehow the government will reimburse us to cover our cost of buying them. Pharmacies still haven’t been informed how this will occur.

Pharmacies across Australia have orders placed, but like us, we all don’t know exactly when we will receive our orders and if our orders can be supplied in full. Because pharmacies were under the impression we would be receiving stock directly from the Federal Government, means now pharmacies have to go back to suppliers to increase our orders and we don’t know when and if these increased orders will be fulfilled.

I have no idea where the millions of RAT’s the Federal Government will be going when they receive them. Assuming to covid-19 testing centres??

I hope this makes sense but I encourage anyone with any issues around the supply of the free RAT’s to please contact your local Federal Member of Parliament.

Good grief.

JudgeMental said:

Bannockburn Pharmacy

FREE Rapid Antigen Test to Concessional Card holders – IMPORTANT INFORMATION/UPDATE

It came to our attention late Friday that the Federal Government WILL NOT be providing RAT’s DIRECTLY to pharmacies to give away for free to concessional card holders as per their announcement last Wednesday.

Pharmacies were under the impression that the Federal Government would be allocating stock they have ordered directly to us pharmacies. This would have meant that pharmacies would have received stock around the same time making it easier for the community (if they hold a concessional card) to know when they could start collecting them. But this is not the case.

Instead we have been informed the Federal Government expect pharmacies to source their own RAT’s to give away to concessional card holders and then somehow the government will reimburse us to cover our cost of buying them. Pharmacies still haven’t been informed how this will occur.

Pharmacies across Australia have orders placed, but like us, we all don’t know exactly when we will receive our orders and if our orders can be supplied in full. Because pharmacies were under the impression we would be receiving stock directly from the Federal Government, means now pharmacies have to go back to suppliers to increase our orders and we don’t know when and if these increased orders will be fulfilled.

I have no idea where the millions of RAT’s the Federal Government will be going when they receive them. Assuming to covid-19 testing centres??

I hope this makes sense but I encourage anyone with any issues around the supply of the free RAT’s to please contact your local Federal Member of Parliament.

Good grief.

Another strollout.

Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

Bannockburn Pharmacy

FREE Rapid Antigen Test to Concessional Card holders – IMPORTANT INFORMATION/UPDATE

It came to our attention late Friday that the Federal Government WILL NOT be providing RAT’s DIRECTLY to pharmacies to give away for free to concessional card holders as per their announcement last Wednesday.

Pharmacies were under the impression that the Federal Government would be allocating stock they have ordered directly to us pharmacies. This would have meant that pharmacies would have received stock around the same time making it easier for the community (if they hold a concessional card) to know when they could start collecting them. But this is not the case.

Instead we have been informed the Federal Government expect pharmacies to source their own RAT’s to give away to concessional card holders and then somehow the government will reimburse us to cover our cost of buying them. Pharmacies still haven’t been informed how this will occur.

Pharmacies across Australia have orders placed, but like us, we all don’t know exactly when we will receive our orders and if our orders can be supplied in full. Because pharmacies were under the impression we would be receiving stock directly from the Federal Government, means now pharmacies have to go back to suppliers to increase our orders and we don’t know when and if these increased orders will be fulfilled.

I have no idea where the millions of RAT’s the Federal Government will be going when they receive them. Assuming to covid-19 testing centres??

I hope this makes sense but I encourage anyone with any issues around the supply of the free RAT’s to please contact your local Federal Member of Parliament.

Good grief.

Another strollout.

is about as truthful as the wearing of a hi-viz jacket and helmet.

furious said:

SCIENCE said:

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Vilfredo Federico Damaso says

We Should Be More Like Israel Or Iran Or Ireland ¡

Such a bad chart, I mean, who is top left?

And it has Turkey sitting prominently right near the top. That’s not a good look.

sibeen said:

furious said:

SCIENCE said:

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Vilfredo Federico Damaso says

We Should Be More Like Israel Or Iran Or Ireland ¡

Such a bad chart, I mean, who is top left?

And it has Turkey sitting prominently right near the top. That’s not a good look.

What do you mean?