A general bushfire thread, to keep it collected.
Sarahs mum will find this interesting, if she hasn’t already seen it:
Black Tuesday 1967
The 1967 ‘Black Tuesday’ bushfires in Tasmania remain the worst natural disaster in the state’s history. The ABC News film tells the story of the fire, its aftermath, and the rebuilding process.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJNG7Ct7lKw
And an article about the fire trail upgrade:
Black Tuesday 1967 bushfire legacy lives on in fire trail upgrade on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mt Wellington
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-08/kunanyi-mt-wellington-fire-trail-upgrade-55-years-on-black-tues/100810500
Bubblecar said:
Sarahs mum will find this interesting, if she hasn’t already seen it:Black Tuesday 1967
The 1967 ‘Black Tuesday’ bushfires in Tasmania remain the worst natural disaster in the state’s history. The ABC News film tells the story of the fire, its aftermath, and the rebuilding process.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJNG7Ct7lKw
And an article about the fire trail upgrade:
Black Tuesday 1967 bushfire legacy lives on in fire trail upgrade on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mt Wellington
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-08/kunanyi-mt-wellington-fire-trail-upgrade-55-years-on-black-tues/100810500
Any possibility for a bit of code to push pics off the screen?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Any possibility for a bit of code to push pics off the screen?
You’d have to take that up with the management.
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Any possibility for a bit of code to push pics off the screen?
You’d have to take that up with the management.
No idea who manages the forum, but here’s another idea.
A right click button option while uploading an image to hide that image via right click > Hide Image.
Image is shown as a button. to show image, right click > Show Image
Something like that.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Any possibility for a bit of code to push pics off the screen?
Just make a URL link instead of a picture link and don’t attach the picture.
Spiny Norman said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Any possibility for a bit of code to push pics off the screen?Just make a URL link instead of a picture link and don’t attach the picture.
ok.
Spiny Norman said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Any possibility for a bit of code to push pics off the screen?Just make a URL link instead of a picture link and don’t attach the picture.
Or push the photo down the page by adding a lot of breaks – take out the space after the first bracket.
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Picture here
Bubblecar said:
A general bushfire thread, to keep it collected.
Yesterday was the 55th anniversary of the 67.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:
Sarahs mum will find this interesting, if she hasn’t already seen it:Black Tuesday 1967
The 1967 ‘Black Tuesday’ bushfires in Tasmania remain the worst natural disaster in the state’s history. The ABC News film tells the story of the fire, its aftermath, and the rebuilding process.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJNG7Ct7lKw
And an article about the fire trail upgrade:
Black Tuesday 1967 bushfire legacy lives on in fire trail upgrade on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mt Wellington
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-08/kunanyi-mt-wellington-fire-trail-upgrade-55-years-on-black-tues/100810500
Any possibility for a bit of code to push pics off the screen?
Ta. No, I didn’t see that go past…so thanks.
But I did know the anniversary was on. It’s always on the minds of those in Snug. And Colebrook.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
A general bushfire thread, to keep it collected.
Yesterday was the 55th anniversary of the 67.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
A general bushfire thread, to keep it collected.
Yesterday was the 55th anniversary of the 67.
I remember the smell of it in Sydney, and the colour of the sky.
sarahs mum said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bubblecar said:
Sarahs mum will find this interesting, if she hasn’t already seen it:Black Tuesday 1967
The 1967 ‘Black Tuesday’ bushfires in Tasmania remain the worst natural disaster in the state’s history. The ABC News film tells the story of the fire, its aftermath, and the rebuilding process.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJNG7Ct7lKw
And an article about the fire trail upgrade:
Black Tuesday 1967 bushfire legacy lives on in fire trail upgrade on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mt Wellington
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-08/kunanyi-mt-wellington-fire-trail-upgrade-55-years-on-black-tues/100810500
Any possibility for a bit of code to push pics off the screen?
Ta. No, I didn’t see that go past…so thanks.
But I did know the anniversary was on. It’s always on the minds of those in Snug. And Colebrook.
I haven’t watched the short film yet, I’ll do it tonight.
Anna saw it and said the kids’ voices in the interviews don’t sound at all like modern Tasmanian children – more like little old farmers.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
A general bushfire thread, to keep it collected.
Yesterday was the 55th anniversary of the 67.
I remember the smell of it in Sydney, and the colour of the sky.
A while back I went to the Channel Museum and saw a Sydney Sun paper on display. They had hired a plane to fly down and take photos and fly home. That was what I remembered. Most of the township was a tent city on Snug oval.
104F with 75 mile an hour wind.
I remember reading one firey saying, ‘we never put it out…it just ran out of state to burn.’
sarahs mum said:
104F with 75 mile an hour wind.I remember reading one firey saying, ‘we never put it out…it just ran out of state to burn.’
I have seen this clip before but I will watch it again.
‘the new brick school is gutted, the children lucky to scape with their lives..’
All the school kids were marshalled into one building. It was the one building that didn’t burn down. People talk about the noise that went on outside and the gum trees that were exploding outside the building. Snug came close to losing all of it’s children.
The new school was planted with deciduous trees.
And then Landcare came along…
If it were up to me I would be sending in the chainsaws.
The govt offered new homes to all those who had lost an uninsured home and a payment to those partially uninsured.
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The people who lived here were growing blackcurrants, gooseberries and raspberries. They had experienced market collapse as shipping to England stopped. They were existing on making broom handles and apple crates. And then all their resource disappeared. They took the govt up on a new house in Taroona close to Hobart.
I moved onto the place with a small shack built and 18 year old regrowth.
sarahs mum said:
The govt offered new homes to all those who had lost an uninsured home and a payment to those partially uninsured.—-
The people who lived here were growing blackcurrants, gooseberries and raspberries. They had experienced market collapse as shipping to England stopped. They were existing on making broom handles and apple crates. And then all their resource disappeared. They took the govt up on a new house in Taroona close to Hobart.
I moved onto the place with a small shack built and 18 year old regrowth.
Well, if such was to happen again, all that sort of thing would be left to the ‘free market’ and ‘can-do capitalism’ these days.
In other words, the tent city would be a most permanent thing.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
The govt offered new homes to all those who had lost an uninsured home and a payment to those partially uninsured.—-
The people who lived here were growing blackcurrants, gooseberries and raspberries. They had experienced market collapse as shipping to England stopped. They were existing on making broom handles and apple crates. And then all their resource disappeared. They took the govt up on a new house in Taroona close to Hobart.
I moved onto the place with a small shack built and 18 year old regrowth.
Well, if such was to happen again, all that sort of thing would be left to the ‘free market’ and ‘can-do capitalism’ these days.
In other words, the tent city would be a most permanent thing.
The govt was worried that people would pack up and move to the mainland.
Just doing up the paperwork for the Hazmat incident at Hester. Lots of vollies were exposed.
I’m ok now, after pins & needles over my legs, nausea and the shits. Apparently it only take the body two days to clear the blood of these type of chemicals. As it turns out, working amongst 600 tons of burning CCA treated pine logs is not good for you.
I feel sorry for the poor buggers who live there. Their home values are now toast.
Hey Kingy, while you’re here… do you have any information on the caused the fire in Rockingham last week?
I am willing to accept rumour as well as hard fact in equal measure. I am just very curious.
Kingy said:
Just doing up the paperwork for the Hazmat incident at Hester. Lots of vollies were exposed.I’m ok now, after pins & needles over my legs, nausea and the shits. Apparently it only take the body two days to clear the blood of these type of chemicals. As it turns out, working amongst 600 tons of burning CCA treated pine logs is not good for you.
I feel sorry for the poor buggers who live there. Their home values are now toast.
Glad to hear you’re doing well.
Yeah, the ash is toxic, so there will need to be a big cleanup for all the residents affected nearby. Not sure if insurance would cover it.
Kingy said:
Just doing up the paperwork for the Hazmat incident at Hester. Lots of vollies were exposed.I’m ok now, after pins & needles over my legs, nausea and the shits. Apparently it only take the body two days to clear the blood of these type of chemicals. As it turns out, working amongst 600 tons of burning CCA treated pine logs is not good for you.
I feel sorry for the poor buggers who live there. Their home values are now toast.
Aren’t all wooden houses made from treated pine?
Kingy said:
Just doing up the paperwork for the Hazmat incident at Hester. Lots of vollies were exposed.I’m ok now, after pins & needles over my legs, nausea and the shits. Apparently it only take the body two days to clear the blood of these type of chemicals. As it turns out, working amongst 600 tons of burning CCA treated pine logs is not good for you.
I feel sorry for the poor buggers who live there. Their home values are now toast.
Bad luck, Kingy.
:(
Peak Warming Man said:
Kingy said:
Just doing up the paperwork for the Hazmat incident at Hester. Lots of vollies were exposed.I’m ok now, after pins & needles over my legs, nausea and the shits. Apparently it only take the body two days to clear the blood of these type of chemicals. As it turns out, working amongst 600 tons of burning CCA treated pine logs is not good for you.
I feel sorry for the poor buggers who live there. Their home values are now toast.
Aren’t all wooden houses made from treated pine?
No.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Kingy said:
Just doing up the paperwork for the Hazmat incident at Hester. Lots of vollies were exposed.I’m ok now, after pins & needles over my legs, nausea and the shits. Apparently it only take the body two days to clear the blood of these type of chemicals. As it turns out, working amongst 600 tons of burning CCA treated pine logs is not good for you.
I feel sorry for the poor buggers who live there. Their home values are now toast.
Aren’t all wooden houses made from treated pine?
No.
I did notice a period where treated pine started being used. Probably the nineties. However, so many more these days have steel frames.
Two new emergency warning fires in WAs South Coast in the last 10 minutes. Large Air Tanker has launched from Busselton and is inbound.
Fark. At least 30 lightning strike fires started in the last two hours. Two in towns at Emergency, the Newdegate one has just been upgraded, and several others are likely to spread rapidly. There is some hope that the thunderstorms that started them just might rain in the right places.
Kingy said:
Fark. At least 30 lightning strike fires started in the last two hours. Two in towns at Emergency, the Newdegate one has just been upgraded, and several others are likely to spread rapidly. There is some hope that the thunderstorms that started them just might rain in the right places.
https://www.farmonlineweather.com.au/radar/was
I really dislike that ad on TV about, “in a grass fire walk two streets back”. That is extremely bad advice.
Would you ask someone to walk two streets back and stand out in the open in a tornado? NO.
The grass fire that led to this bad advice was clearly the Canberra one, where people were shocked to discover that a grass fire had sufficient fury to burn one to two rows of houses adjacent to the grassland. But the wind on that day at that time was sufficient to blow the roofs off houses. The damage from the wind alone was as severe as the damage from wind and fire combined. Yes. It was a tornado.
It was the tornado that forced burning embers from the grass fire into the nearby houses. So standing two steets back in extreme winds full of burning embers is not at all good advice.
The best advice is: for Christ sake stay indoors in extreme winds.
PS. I was doing work at CSIRO on a similar topic at the time of these fires.
Just got a phone call to supply a truck and crew to one of the fires 450+ km away.
Definitely gonna set a new record this year. :/
Kingy said:
Just got a phone call to supply a truck and crew to one of the fires 450+ km away.Definitely gonna set a new record this year. :/
Tell them about it in acqusition of funds form.
PermeateFree said:
Kingy said:
Fark. At least 30 lightning strike fires started in the last two hours. Two in towns at Emergency, the Newdegate one has just been upgraded, and several others are likely to spread rapidly. There is some hope that the thunderstorms that started them just might rain in the right places.
https://www.farmonlineweather.com.au/radar/was
Losing battle?
This arvos lightning in the Eastern WA Wheatbelt:
Kingy said:
This arvos lightning in the Eastern WA Wheatbelt:
Bugger me down dead.
Kingy said:
This arvos lightning in the Eastern WA Wheatbelt:
Nasty.
At least three homes lost in Jerramungup and Hopetoun blazes in WA’s Great Southern region
Posted 3h ago
3 hours ago
, updated 1m ago
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-12/homes-lost-in-hopetoun-and-jerramungup-blazes/100825118
Now at a fire in Busselton.
Now at a fire in Busselton.
FMD, we were in the middle of a defense of a row of houses and relying on air support, including two fixed wings, two helitaks and a spotter plane and some utter fuckwit flew a drone over the fire, immediately grounding all aircraft.
Many police are hunting the shitbag down right now.
Kingy said:
FMD, we were in the middle of a defense of a row of houses and relying on air support, including two fixed wings, two helitaks and a spotter plane and some utter fuckwit flew a drone over the fire, immediately grounding all aircraft.Many police are hunting the shitbag down right now.
Madness.
My view as we arrived at this Arvos fire.
https://youtu.be/FWaaeKim7ls
Kingy said:
My view as we arrived at this Arvos fire.https://youtu.be/FWaaeKim7ls
I could smell smoke while watching that
Kingy said:
FMD, we were in the middle of a defense of a row of houses and relying on air support, including two fixed wings, two helitaks and a spotter plane and some utter fuckwit flew a drone over the fire, immediately grounding all aircraft.Many police are hunting the shitbag down right now.
Bloody!
Michael V said:
Kingy said:
FMD, we were in the middle of a defense of a row of houses and relying on air support, including two fixed wings, two helitaks and a spotter plane and some utter fuckwit flew a drone over the fire, immediately grounding all aircraft.Many police are hunting the shitbag down right now.
Bloody!
Could it be the person who lit the fire?
Our Helitak from yesterday didn’t make it back to the airport, now they are disassembling it on the side of the road and craning it onto a truck.
Kingy said:
Our Helitak from yesterday didn’t make it back to the airport, now they are disassembling it on the side of the road and craning it onto a truck.
Is that N216 on that helicopter?
Must be more to it, as N216 is Bell 427, which that definitely is not.
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:
Our Helitak from yesterday didn’t make it back to the airport, now they are disassembling it on the side of the road and craning it onto a truck.
Is that N216 on that helicopter?
Must be more to it, as N216 is Bell 427, which that definitely is not.
N216 in Pajamas
Bell 214B-1 BigLifter
Kingy said:
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:
Our Helitak from yesterday didn’t make it back to the airport, now they are disassembling it on the side of the road and craning it onto a truck.
Is that N216 on that helicopter?
Must be more to it, as N216 is Bell 427, which that definitely is not.
N216 in Pajamas
Bell 214B-1 BigLifter
I thought it would be a 214, with that big jet pipe from the 2400 shp engine.
I see in your pic that they have the rotor head, blades and control rods off, so i suspect there’s some swash plate work afoot.
Pilot dies after helicopter crashes into paddock while fighting fire in north-eastern Tasmania
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-14/aircraft-lebrina-paddock-crash-northern-tasmania/100829148
Not the greatest pic, but that was the best I could do without a degree in cameraology.
Hey Kingy,
Did you hear any word on how the fire in Rockingham (about 2 weeks ago), started?
Kingy said:
Not the greatest pic, but that was the best I could do without a degree in cameraology.
That place doesn’t look well prepared for the event of fire.
party_pants said:
Hey Kingy,Did you hear any word on how the fire in Rockingham (about 2 weeks ago), started?
No, I saw your question and tried to find out, but if it’s not obvious (probably arson), then we don’t get any more info than you do.
Kingy said:
party_pants said:
Hey Kingy,Did you hear any word on how the fire in Rockingham (about 2 weeks ago), started?
No, I saw your question and tried to find out, but if it’s not obvious (probably arson), then we don’t get any more info than you do.
Ok. Thanks anyway.
There was some speculation that it may have been a stolen car.
A couple of ladies at work were outside in the carpark just before the fire started and reckon they heard a loud bang or explosion type noise. But then they went back inside thinking no more of it. It wasn’t till a few minutes later when someone else walked outside that they saw the plume of smoke.
It was a very hot day and we were trying to avoid being outside unless necessary.
party_pants said:
There was some speculation that it may have been a stolen car.A couple of ladies at work were outside in the carpark just before the fire started and reckon they heard a loud bang or explosion type noise. But then they went back inside thinking no more of it. It wasn’t till a few minutes later when someone else walked outside that they saw the plume of smoke.
It was a very hot day and we were trying to avoid being outside unless necessary.
There are a lot of instances of stolen car burnings. It is like they’ve all learned how to be a criminal off TV.
How’d they get away with this then?
Current situation. The sun has just set here, and all waterbombers are wheels down at sundown. The latest msg from comms is that they have managed to pinch off the fire about where you can see CowaramupBFB 4.4B
The red line/circle is my guess at the shape of the fire.
There is some concern that there may be embers blowing northwards overnight.
Kingy said:
Current situation. The sun has just set here, and all waterbombers are wheels down at sundown. The latest msg from comms is that they have managed to pinch off the fire about where you can see CowaramupBFB 4.4BThe red line/circle is my guess at the shape of the fire.
There is some concern that there may be embers blowing northwards overnight.
For those who may be thinking about asking questions regarding the fire truck designations…
A 3.4U (Urban) is a fire truck that carries 3 tons of water, Is a 4 wheel drive, and is designed to fight fires in an Urban environment. Urban tankers usually have a fire hydrant within 300m, so they have a LOT of hoses.
A 4.4R (Rural) is a fire truck with 4 tons of water, is a 4 wheel drive, and usually doesn’t have a water supply nearby, so has to deal with fires in the bush with only the water that it carries.
A 4.4B (Broardacre) is a fire truck with 4 tons of water, is a 4 wheel drive, and often has to chase a fire that is running across a paddock.
A 12.2 is a large truck with 12 tons of water that supplies the other fire trucks and then goes to find more water.
A Light Tanker usually only has about 500Lts, but can get in early and into places that a heavy tanker can’t.
Yay. Whoop de fucken Doo.
Guess who got the dawn to dusk shift tomorrow.
Kingy said:
Yay. Whoop de fucken Doo.Guess who got the dawn to dusk shift tomorrow.
Tell them it’s your wedding day.
Kingy said:
Yay. Whoop de fucken Doo.Guess who got the dawn to dusk shift tomorrow.
Shit eh
Tasmania Fire Service
10 mins ·
Watch and Act – Dynnyrne – Prepare to evacuate
Warning Issued At: 19/02/2022 3:05pm
Warning Issued At: 19/02/2022 3:05pm
This is a bushfire watch and act message for Dynnyrne.
This fire is expected to impact Dynnyrne by now.
The fire is travelling North West, towards Olinda Grove.
The fire is expected to be difficult to control.
Embers, smoke and ash may fall on Dynnyrne.
Tasmania Fire Service is attending. Conditions are expected to be changeable.
——-
There’s fire on the mountain.
sarahs mum said:
Tasmania Fire Service
10 mins ·
Watch and Act – Dynnyrne – Prepare to evacuate
Warning Issued At: 19/02/2022 3:05pm
Warning Issued At: 19/02/2022 3:05pm
This is a bushfire watch and act message for Dynnyrne.
This fire is expected to impact Dynnyrne by now.
The fire is travelling North West, towards Olinda Grove.
The fire is expected to be difficult to control.
Embers, smoke and ash may fall on Dynnyrne.
Tasmania Fire Service is attending. Conditions are expected to be changeable.
——-There’s fire on the mountain.
Alert Level: EMERGENCY WARNING
Type: vegetation fire
Last Updated: 19-Feb-2022 03:14 PM
First Reported: 19-Feb-2022 02:23 PM
Location: Oberon Court, Dynnyrne
Status: Going
Agency: Tasmania Fire Service
Size: Not reported
Attending Resources:
Tasmania Fire Service Resources Arrived: 3 x LIGHT TANKER 1 x HEAVY TANKER 2 x MEDIUM TANKER 1 x OTHER
Tasmania Fire Service Resources Mobilised: 2 x HEAVY PUMPER 1 x HEAVY TANKER 4 x LIGHT TANKER 2 x MEDIUM TANKER 1 x FIXED WING: LOW 1 x ROTARY WING: LIGHT 1 x ROTARY WING: MEDIUM
The marker for the fire is on Mt Nelson Primary school.
sarahs mum said:
The marker for the fire is on Mt Nelson Primary school.
view from Southern outlet.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
The marker for the fire is on Mt Nelson Primary school.
view from Southern outlet.
The fire is travelling North West, towards Olinda Grove.
The fire is expected to be difficult to control.
Embers, smoke and ash may fall on Oberon Crt, Proctors Rd & Olinda Gve, Dynnyrne.
Tasmania Fire Service is attending. Conditions are expected to be changeable.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
The marker for the fire is on Mt Nelson Primary school.
view from Southern outlet.
Ooh-ah!
That’s scary.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
The marker for the fire is on Mt Nelson Primary school.
view from Southern outlet.
Ooh-ah!
That’s scary.
That’s the problem with building for a view. Fire can rip up steep bush like that.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
The marker for the fire is on Mt Nelson Primary school.
view from Southern outlet.
Ooh-ah!
That’s scary.
Very! Would not like to own one of those houses.
PermeateFree said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:view from Southern outlet.
Ooh-ah!
That’s scary.
Very! Would not like to own one of those houses.
But the view!
sarahs mum said:
PermeateFree said:
Michael V said:Ooh-ah!
That’s scary.
Very! Would not like to own one of those houses.
But the view!
Yes very colourful.
fire just down the road, about 5km away. water bombers on to it.
Advice – Oberon Crt, Baintree Ave and Olinda Gve, Dynnyrne – Stay informed, threat is reduced
Warning Issued At: 19/02/2022 6:07pm
Incident number: 22006875
This is a bushfire advice message for Oberon Crt, Baintree Ave and Olinda Gve, Dynnyrne.
The fire was travelling South East, towards Olinda Grove.
There is currently no immediate threat, however people are to remain vigilant overnight and to call Triple Zero to report any active fire.
Tasmania Fire Service is attending. Conditions are expected to improve.
This fire will be patrolled at regular intervals overnight.
Just got home. This was today, I’ll post some pics from yesterday shortly.
Not my pics, but from another brigade taken yesterday arvo at the Stuart Rd fire nearby.
It got a bit hot in places.
Kingy said:
Not my pics, but from another brigade taken yesterday arvo at the Stuart Rd fire nearby.It got a bit hot in places.
Dramatic.
Kingy said:
Not my pics, but from another brigade taken yesterday arvo at the Stuart Rd fire nearby.It got a bit hot in places.
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Hey Kingy. The hobart fireys called for a hydraulic lift today. They were in a bit of steep valley situation. What does such a lift look like?
sarahs mum said:
Hey Kingy. The hobart fireys called for a hydraulic lift today. They were in a bit of steep valley situation. What does such a lift look like?
Sorry for the delay, been on the phone.
I haven’t heard of a hydraulic lift, so I can’t learn you anything. I can make a guess, it might be a tilt tray truck to take away a fire truck that is no longer operational. Also some situations require code words to not disclose the real situation over the radio.
Kingy said:
Not my pics, but from another brigade taken yesterday arvo at the Stuart Rd fire nearby.It got a bit hot in places.
It wasn’t windy. This is how dry this corner of Australia is. Global warming has cut off our rain supply here. About 50km South of here is “Lake Cave”. In my day job, I have had to build water tanks to supply water into the underground cave that has had water in it for so long that there are species that have evolved to live in this cave. A few years ago it was obvious that the water level was dropping, so now it has to be resupplied with water trucks to keep that species alive.
Kingy said:
Kingy said:
Not my pics, but from another brigade taken yesterday arvo at the Stuart Rd fire nearby.It got a bit hot in places.
It wasn’t windy. This is how dry this corner of Australia is. Global warming has cut off our rain supply here. About 50km South of here is “Lake Cave”. In my day job, I have had to build water tanks to supply water into the underground cave that has had water in it for so long that there are species that have evolved to live in this cave. A few years ago it was obvious that the water level was dropping, so now it has to be resupplied with water trucks to keep that species alive.
“None of the above is true” – Scott Morrison, Barnaby Joyce, and a legion of other venal, lying, pea-brained dickheads.
It wasn’t windy. This is how dry this corner of Australia is. Global warming has cut off our rain supply here. About 50km South of here is “Lake Cave”. In my day job, I have had to build water tanks to supply water into the underground cave that has had water in it for so long that there are species that have evolved to live in this cave. A few years ago it was obvious that the water level was dropping, so now it has to be resupplied with water trucks to keep that species alive.
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I’mglad someone is keeping them alive.
Also:
Jebus palomino, those fires are the stuff of nightmares!
Do they still give out George Medals? Because there’s some being earned in WA.
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:
Kingy said:
Not my pics, but from another brigade taken yesterday arvo at the Stuart Rd fire nearby.It got a bit hot in places.
It wasn’t windy. This is how dry this corner of Australia is. Global warming has cut off our rain supply here. About 50km South of here is “Lake Cave”. In my day job, I have had to build water tanks to supply water into the underground cave that has had water in it for so long that there are species that have evolved to live in this cave. A few years ago it was obvious that the water level was dropping, so now it has to be resupplied with water trucks to keep that species alive.
“None of the above is true” – Scott Morrison, Barnaby Joyce, and a legion of other venal, lying, pea-brained dickheads.
you guys get training about detecting heatstroke in yourselves, and what to do to avoid it or remedy it quickly, I ask because I can’t handle too much extra heat that way
I know pouring water on my head, down back of neck etc around that area helps right it quickly, it’s what I do when getting overheated, or to stop me getting overheated
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Tasmania Fire Service
10 mins ·
Watch and Act – Dynnyrne – Prepare to evacuate
Warning Issued At: 19/02/2022 3:05pm
Warning Issued At: 19/02/2022 3:05pm
This is a bushfire watch and act message for Dynnyrne.
This fire is expected to impact Dynnyrne by now.
The fire is travelling North West, towards Olinda Grove.
The fire is expected to be difficult to control.
Embers, smoke and ash may fall on Dynnyrne.
Tasmania Fire Service is attending. Conditions are expected to be changeable.
——-There’s fire on the mountain.
Alert Level: EMERGENCY WARNING
Type: vegetation fire
Last Updated: 19-Feb-2022 03:14 PM
First Reported: 19-Feb-2022 02:23 PM
Location: Oberon Court, Dynnyrne
Status: Going
Agency: Tasmania Fire Service
Size: Not reported
Attending Resources:Tasmania Fire Service Resources Arrived: 3 x LIGHT TANKER 1 x HEAVY TANKER 2 x MEDIUM TANKER 1 x OTHER
Tasmania Fire Service Resources Mobilised: 2 x HEAVY PUMPER 1 x HEAVY TANKER 4 x LIGHT TANKER 2 x MEDIUM TANKER 1 x FIXED WING: LOW 1 x ROTARY WING: LIGHT 1 x ROTARY WING: MEDIUM
Fire was caused by a brushcutter with metal blade
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Tasmania Fire Service
10 mins ·
Watch and Act – Dynnyrne – Prepare to evacuate
Warning Issued At: 19/02/2022 3:05pm
Warning Issued At: 19/02/2022 3:05pm
This is a bushfire watch and act message for Dynnyrne.
This fire is expected to impact Dynnyrne by now.
The fire is travelling North West, towards Olinda Grove.
The fire is expected to be difficult to control.
Embers, smoke and ash may fall on Dynnyrne.
Tasmania Fire Service is attending. Conditions are expected to be changeable.
——-There’s fire on the mountain.
Alert Level: EMERGENCY WARNING
Type: vegetation fire
Last Updated: 19-Feb-2022 03:14 PM
First Reported: 19-Feb-2022 02:23 PM
Location: Oberon Court, Dynnyrne
Status: Going
Agency: Tasmania Fire Service
Size: Not reported
Attending Resources:Tasmania Fire Service Resources Arrived: 3 x LIGHT TANKER 1 x HEAVY TANKER 2 x MEDIUM TANKER 1 x OTHER
Tasmania Fire Service Resources Mobilised: 2 x HEAVY PUMPER 1 x HEAVY TANKER 4 x LIGHT TANKER 2 x MEDIUM TANKER 1 x FIXED WING: LOW 1 x ROTARY WING: LIGHT 1 x ROTARY WING: MEDIUM
Fire was caused by a brushcutter with metal blade
Tas fire isn’t showing that on their main page, but I see it on google maps. Where did you get that info?
Kingy said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:Alert Level: EMERGENCY WARNING
Type: vegetation fire
Last Updated: 19-Feb-2022 03:14 PM
First Reported: 19-Feb-2022 02:23 PM
Location: Oberon Court, Dynnyrne
Status: Going
Agency: Tasmania Fire Service
Size: Not reported
Attending Resources:Tasmania Fire Service Resources Arrived: 3 x LIGHT TANKER 1 x HEAVY TANKER 2 x MEDIUM TANKER 1 x OTHER
Tasmania Fire Service Resources Mobilised: 2 x HEAVY PUMPER 1 x HEAVY TANKER 4 x LIGHT TANKER 2 x MEDIUM TANKER 1 x FIXED WING: LOW 1 x ROTARY WING: LIGHT 1 x ROTARY WING: MEDIUM
Fire was caused by a brushcutter with metal blade
Tas fire isn’t showing that on their main page, but I see it on google maps. Where did you get that info?
Twas yesterday’s fire. Here..
https://www.fire.tas.gov.au/Show?pageId=articleItem&viewIncidentUpdateID=90539
But I just got the cause from Heidi who got it from one of the Snug fireys.
I’m going to have some chocolate ice cream and there’s not anything any of you can do about it.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m going to have some chocolate ice cream and there’s not anything any of you can do about it.
You’re welcome.
Another callout today to a roadside fire of unknown origin. Quickly extinguished and then we went for a drive to make sure it was the only one.
Also today three hours of admin doing the report for the Meelup fire. We can’t complete the incident report until the incident has been closed off by DFES, which they have only recently done.
It’s been a busy summer, there was a period from Jan 8 to Feb 23rd when we didn’t have all of our trucks in the shed for a 24hr period. One of our light tankers did almost 3000km at one incident.
Still doing admin.
Here’s a screenshot of the GPS tracking software DFES uses. I use it to fill in dates and times for the reports. This shot is of our heavy tanker attending the Bridgetown fire. The track from that incident is overlaid onto the current locations of all other appliances, and as our truck is now at the station and electrically isolated, all its inputs are off.
Florida Panhandle wildfires force evacuation from more than a thousand homes
Veterans at a nursing home also evacuated, as well as residents of at least 1,100 houses, as firefighters battle two fires
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/06/florida-panhandle-wildfires-evacuations
sarahs mum said:
Florida Panhandle wildfires force evacuation from more than a thousand homesVeterans at a nursing home also evacuated, as well as residents of at least 1,100 houses, as firefighters battle two fires
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/06/florida-panhandle-wildfires-evacuations
Heck!
We had a wild night of lightning last night, and I’m sitting here playing bushfire bingo.
Yesterday arvo there were three bushfires in SW WA. As of now, there is 54, with new ones being reported every few minutes.
So far none in my own patch, but several are being upgraded as I watch, one is already at Emergency Warning. I suppose I should go charge my radio and helmet torch.
Kingy said:
We had a wild night of lightning last night, and I’m sitting here playing bushfire bingo.
Yesterday arvo there were three bushfires in SW WA. As of now, there is 54, with new ones being reported every few minutes.
So far none in my own patch, but several are being upgraded as I watch, one is already at Emergency Warning. I suppose I should go charge my radio and helmet torch.
Heck!
Now at 80+ lightning fires in the SW. Mrs Kingy has been asked to assist with the Lower SW Incident Control Vehicle.
Pick a spot in the SW and start zooming in.
It’s not improving. Around midday I saw DFES issue a storm warning for a very unusual localised area. I checked out the satellite pics, and it was for a violent pyrocumulous thunderhead that had formed over the Yeagerup fire. :/
Lightning still hitting the SW, but it has slowed right down. Most brigades have their trucks out somewhere. and the wind is picking up.
DFES have everything in the air at the moment. All 18 aircraft South of Mandurah are Spotters, Bombers or air controllers.
Just been asked to provide a truck and crew for the Yeagerup fire starting at 0530hrs. Several of the experienced crew have offered, so I don’t have to go this time. I do however, need to go to the station right now and prep the trucks.
Kingy said:
Just been asked to provide a truck and crew for the Yeagerup fire starting at 0530hrs. Several of the experienced crew have offered, so I don’t have to go this time. I do however, need to go to the station right now and prep the trucks.
Trucks prepped, just finished sending in tomorrows crew list to Incident Control and one of them pulled out because he didn’t ask his wife.
Guess who’s going to the Yeagerup fire. Fck. I got better things to do. I’m supposed to be fixing my car.
Trucks ready to roll at sparrows fart.
Just been to visit one of my crew, and he owns this:
That’s two of my vollies that have a double decker bus. I’m not sure if that’s important somehow. Maybe I should buy one?
Some pics from the crew reloading the water bombers at the local airport.
This is how you mix the Phoschek fire retardant before loading it into the water bombers.
Just got back from the Yeagarup fire and back into phone range. It’s not gone well. I have to check on a few things but there is a little village at the Donnelly Rivermouth(Google maps) that just may or may not survive tomorrow. The entire community has no roads, no cars, no firebreaks, and every dwelling was transported there down the “river” on a small boat. We cannot get a fire truck there.
With luck, the wind might change direction before the headfire gets there. I’ll upload some pics of today’s shenanigans when my phone gets a bit more charge.
Kingy said:
Just got back from the Yeagarup fire and back into phone range. It’s not gone well. I have to check on a few things but there is a little village at the Donnelly Rivermouth(Google maps) that just may or may not survive tomorrow. The entire community has no roads, no cars, no firebreaks, and every dwelling was transported there down the “river” on a small boat. We cannot get a fire truck there.With luck, the wind might change direction before the headfire gets there. I’ll upload some pics of today’s shenanigans when my phone gets a bit more charge.
:(
Busselton task force heading inbound.
Control point and briefing.
Incident map(slightly out of date)
Our water supply today (Yeagarup Lake)
There was a picnic table here
Overtaken by a bulldozer. We were dealing with a large tree…
The trees here are kinda big
The dunny got a bit toasted.
I would not have wanted to be here having a dump when the fire front went through.
They look like clouds, but they are not clouds
The Yeagarup fire I was at yesterday is still out of control in wild bushland and Karri forest. The bit that we put out is still out though :)
There are very few tracks through there and no way to get to the head fire. When I spoke to one of the Incident Management Team yesterday, the fire had jumped the Western flank, and they lost control of it. The flank is to long and too difficult to bulldoze a new track in time to hold it, so they fell back to the next nearest track and began a new backburn.
As of now it seems that they have chosen a very risky option. They appear to have started a backburn from the Donnelly boat ramp, AND from the next most Western track. This means that the little village of Donnelly (which has no roads, no cars, no firebreaks, and no access to civilization other than a 20km boat trip up“river”), is completely at the mercy of a bushfire on three sides, and the Southern ocean on the other. The homes are on either side of the river mouth in the pic, check it out on Google Maps.
I assume that the Incident Controller is betting that the homes can be saved by water bombing alone. This has not worked before to my knowledge. There is no way of getting firetrucks anywhere near the place, and late in one of the driest summers we have had, I don’t like their chances of transporting firefighters by boat. The weather conditions in the next couple of days are sorta favourable, but I’m fucking glad that this isn’t my decision.
Kingy said:
The Yeagarup fire I was at yesterday is still out of control in wild bushland and Karri forest. The bit that we put out is still out though :)There are very few tracks through there and no way to get to the head fire. When I spoke to one of the Incident Management Team yesterday, the fire had jumped the Western flank, and they lost control of it. The flank is to long and too difficult to bulldoze a new track in time to hold it, so they fell back to the next nearest track and began a new backburn.
As of now it seems that they have chosen a very risky option. They appear to have started a backburn from the Donnelly boat ramp, AND from the next most Western track. This means that the little village of Donnelly (which has no roads, no cars, no firebreaks, and no access to civilization other than a 20km boat trip up“river”), is completely at the mercy of a bushfire on three sides, and the Southern ocean on the other. The homes are on either side of the river mouth in the pic, check it out on Google Maps.
I assume that the Incident Controller is betting that the homes can be saved by water bombing alone. This has not worked before to my knowledge. There is no way of getting firetrucks anywhere near the place, and late in one of the driest summers we have had, I don’t like their chances of transporting firefighters by boat. The weather conditions in the next couple of days are sorta favourable, but I’m fucking glad that this isn’t my decision.
Sounds dire.
Kingy said:
The Yeagarup fire I was at yesterday is still out of control in wild bushland and Karri forest. The bit that we put out is still out though :)There are very few tracks through there and no way to get to the head fire. When I spoke to one of the Incident Management Team yesterday, the fire had jumped the Western flank, and they lost control of it. The flank is to long and too difficult to bulldoze a new track in time to hold it, so they fell back to the next nearest track and began a new backburn.
As of now it seems that they have chosen a very risky option. They appear to have started a backburn from the Donnelly boat ramp, AND from the next most Western track. This means that the little village of Donnelly (which has no roads, no cars, no firebreaks, and no access to civilization other than a 20km boat trip up“river”), is completely at the mercy of a bushfire on three sides, and the Southern ocean on the other. The homes are on either side of the river mouth in the pic, check it out on Google Maps.
I assume that the Incident Controller is betting that the homes can be saved by water bombing alone. This has not worked before to my knowledge. There is no way of getting firetrucks anywhere near the place, and late in one of the driest summers we have had, I don’t like their chances of transporting firefighters by boat. The weather conditions in the next couple of days are sorta favourable, but I’m fucking glad that this isn’t my decision.
Sounds dire.
Michael V said:
Kingy said:
The Yeagarup fire I was at yesterday is still out of control in wild bushland and Karri forest. The bit that we put out is still out though :)There are very few tracks through there and no way to get to the head fire. When I spoke to one of the Incident Management Team yesterday, the fire had jumped the Western flank, and they lost control of it. The flank is to long and too difficult to bulldoze a new track in time to hold it, so they fell back to the next nearest track and began a new backburn.
As of now it seems that they have chosen a very risky option. They appear to have started a backburn from the Donnelly boat ramp, AND from the next most Western track. This means that the little village of Donnelly (which has no roads, no cars, no firebreaks, and no access to civilization other than a 20km boat trip up“river”), is completely at the mercy of a bushfire on three sides, and the Southern ocean on the other. The homes are on either side of the river mouth in the pic, check it out on Google Maps.
I assume that the Incident Controller is betting that the homes can be saved by water bombing alone. This has not worked before to my knowledge. There is no way of getting firetrucks anywhere near the place, and late in one of the driest summers we have had, I don’t like their chances of transporting firefighters by boat. The weather conditions in the next couple of days are sorta favourable, but I’m fucking glad that this isn’t my decision.
Sounds dire.
I’ve just had a look at the weather satellite image…
And there seems to be a cyclone up north, which is sometimes dragged south by an a cold front. There is a cold front approaching.
I hope I’m wrong.
Ta for the updates, folks. I hadn’t even realised that this thread was still active.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-14/donnelly-river-huts-under-threat-from-bushfire/100908930
mollwollfumble said:
Ta for the updates, folks. I hadn’t even realised that this thread was still active.
The Eastern States are flooded, but Western Australia is drier than a dead dingo’s donger.
We had 70+ lightning strike fires on Saturday.
One of the nearby fire brigades truck was damaged in an accident yesterday, and has to go to be repaired. That brigade no longer has a firetruck, and DFES are taking one of my tankers to replace theirs.
I was at the fire station an hour ago removing all our own stuff from it so that our personal equipment doesn’t “disappear” again.
Apparently we won’t get it back until the end of the fire season. The last times the other brigades have “borrowed” our stuff, it has been returned badly damaged. I am not ok with this.
Kingy said:
mollwollfumble said:
Ta for the updates, folks. I hadn’t even realised that this thread was still active.
The Eastern States are flooded, but Western Australia is drier than a dead dingo’s donger.
We had 70+ lightning strike fires on Saturday.
One of the nearby fire brigades truck was damaged in an accident yesterday, and has to go to be repaired. That brigade no longer has a firetruck, and DFES are taking one of my tankers to replace theirs.
I was at the fire station an hour ago removing all our own stuff from it so that our personal equipment doesn’t “disappear” again.
Apparently we won’t get it back until the end of the fire season. The last times the other brigades have “borrowed” our stuff, it has been returned badly damaged. I am not ok with this.
Borrowed equipment should always be returned in the same condition it was in when borrowed.
Our brigade have recently been informed that we can go back to fire training with some limitations on numbers(only 30 at once in the Station).
We have not been allowed in the Station except for emergency callouts since the dreaded lurgy escaped containment in January. Last week was our first training back for the regulars, and we had a bbq and drinkies while debriefing the busy summer(30+ callouts).
Now I have 20 new volunteers to try to process through basic training, and most other active brigades have similar numbers to deal with.
DFES better have extra courses this winter.
New tech that may assist in fire planning and safety.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-05/mobile-doppler-radar-tested-in-bushfire-management/102298514
Just got home from a small bushfire near town. The owners were burning off a couple of large piles and their fairly new water pump slowly ran out of pressure. The burn pile became a burn area, then “tree,shrub,grass”. Nothing serious, but we turned out to get it back under control for them. It was right next to a main road and a lot of people rang it in. It’s drizzling rain here now so it aint going anywhere.
Leave immediately’: Emergency warning as bushfire intensifies in west Victoria
An emergency warning has been issued as a massive bushfire intensifies in west Victoria.
Residents in Mafeking and Watgania are urged to leave immediately as an out-of-control fire in the Grampians is threatening lives.
“Leaving immediately is the safest option, before conditions become too dangerous. Emergency services may not be able to help you if you decide to stay,” VicEmergency said in its warning.
Visit the VicEmergency website for the latest warnings and advice.
The bushfire is travelling from the Grampians National Park in a north-easterly direction towards Mt William.
VicEmergency said the fire activity has increased as a result of wind changes.
A relief centre has been established at Alexandra Oval Community Centre in Ararat.
The bushfire has burnt through 17,000 hectares since it started on Wednesday.
An earlier warning for Loch, St Helier, The Gurdies, and Woodleigh has been downgraded to “monitor conditions as they change”.
https://twitter.com/vicemergency/status/1870046502976201052?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
An earlier warning for Bullengarook, Bullengarook East, Gisborne, Lerderderg and Macedon has also been downgraded to “monitor conditions as they change”.
“These fires are spreading and we need everybody to activate their plan,” state response controller Gary Cook said.
“If you haven’t got the VicEmergency app, download it, stay in touch, listen to local radio broadcasters.
monkey skipper said:
Leave immediately’: Emergency warning as bushfire intensifies in west VictoriaAn emergency warning has been issued as a massive bushfire intensifies in west Victoria.
Residents in Mafeking and Watgania are urged to leave immediately as an out-of-control fire in the Grampians is threatening lives.
“Leaving immediately is the safest option, before conditions become too dangerous. Emergency services may not be able to help you if you decide to stay,” VicEmergency said in its warning.
Visit the VicEmergency website for the latest warnings and advice.
The bushfire is travelling from the Grampians National Park in a north-easterly direction towards Mt William.
VicEmergency said the fire activity has increased as a result of wind changes.
A relief centre has been established at Alexandra Oval Community Centre in Ararat.
The bushfire has burnt through 17,000 hectares since it started on Wednesday.
An earlier warning for Loch, St Helier, The Gurdies, and Woodleigh has been downgraded to “monitor conditions as they change”.
https://twitter.com/vicemergency/status/1870046502976201052?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
An earlier warning for Bullengarook, Bullengarook East, Gisborne, Lerderderg and Macedon has also been downgraded to “monitor conditions as they change”.“These fires are spreading and we need everybody to activate their plan,” state response controller Gary Cook said.
“If you haven’t got the VicEmergency app, download it, stay in touch, listen to local radio broadcasters.
Bigger now…28,157 hectares as of about 5 this morning. Halls Gap was told to get out last night.
The smoke from Victoria has completely obscured all my horizons.
