Which version of minesweeper do you play?

http://www.minesweeper.info/downloads/WinmineXP.html

I tried the Windows XP version, which I consider the original and best. But with today’s screen resolution it comes out looking like a postage stamp and requires unholy mouse accuracy to play.

I tried the Windows 7 version, but can’t get it to open on Windows 10 even in compatibility mode, perhaps I need to move the .dll file into the System32 folder or something weird like that.

A couple of websites link to a thing called “original” minesweeper in Google games. But that opens with full page advertisements on pop up windows, and when I do get to the game it’s not even remotely like the original.

It may seem strange to you but none. Have never played minesweeper or kong. Not even pong.

The games crap on computers and phones either gets deleted or turned off.

roughbarked said:

It may seem strange to you but none. Have never played minesweeper or kong. Not even pong.

The games crap on computers and phones either gets deleted or turned off.

we hear competitive tetromino dropping is all the rage these days

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

It may seem strange to you but none. Have never played minesweeper or kong. Not even pong.

The games crap on computers and phones either gets deleted or turned off.

we hear competitive tetromino dropping is all the rage these days

OK, let’s keep trying.

“Arbiter 52” is postage-stamp size.
“Minesweeper X” is indistinguishable from the XP version, still postage-stamp size.
“Minesweeper Clone” – dang, plenty of options but resize window in not one of them, still postage-stamp size.
“Narkomania” nope
“Winmine Vista” – just like Windows 2007 version, doesn’t play at all !

Aaarg.

Try https://www.thewindowsclub.com/minesweeper-games-for-windows-10

I already know that some of these have in-app purchases, which I don’t want.

I’ve forgotten all about Mindsweeper.

mollwollfumble said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

It may seem strange to you but none. Have never played minesweeper or kong. Not even pong.

The games crap on computers and phones either gets deleted or turned off.

we hear competitive tetromino dropping is all the rage these days

OK, let’s keep trying.

Aaarg.

I already know that some of these have in-app purchases, which I don’t want.

look fine then well give yous this

http://void.byethost10.com/ms.html

not sure exactly the spec’s you want but tell us and it’s not a big thing to mod’ a little

Mostly I play it in 1991

Akari / Light Up has some similarities to Minesweeper I think.

Light Up is played on a rectangular grid of white and black cells. The player places light bulbs in white cells such that no two bulbs shine on each other, until the entire grid is lit up. A bulb sends rays of light horizontally and vertically, illuminating its entire row and column unless its light is blocked by a black cell. A black cell may have a number on it from 0 to 4, indicating how many bulbs must be placed adjacent to its four sides; for example, a cell with a 4 must have four bulbs around it, one on each side, and a cell with a 0 cannot have a bulb next to any of its sides. An unnumbered black cell may have any number of light bulbs adjacent to it, or none. Bulbs placed diagonally adjacent to a numbered cell do not contribute to the bulb count.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_Up_(puzzle)

SCIENCE said:

mollwollfumble said:

SCIENCE said:

we hear competitive tetromino dropping is all the rage these days

OK, let’s keep trying.

Aaarg.

I already know that some of these have in-app purchases, which I don’t want.

look fine then well give yous this

http://void.byethost10.com/ms.html

not sure exactly the spec’s you want but tell us and it’s not a big thing to mod’ a little

Hey, how did you do that. That’s good.

Trying some more.
Microsoft minesweeper – Yuk. Ads and flashing lights.
Minesweeper Free 2019 – Has a 30 second long video ad at the end of every game.
Simple minesweeper – annoying pop-ups every few seconds
Minesweeper Original – awful colours, pop-ups completely cover the game while playing in the middle of a game
Multisweeper – no ads & good size. Only has beginner level.
Mine Sweeping Ninja – no ads and good size. Only has beginner level and doesn’t even stop when complete.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/p/minesweeper-2019/9n1c8mjcm631?activetab=pivot:overviewtab
Minesweeper 2019 – no ads & good size. Also no way to exit and poor font, but best so far.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/p/minesweeper-2-pro-king-puzzle-game-free-play/9n9w04xf4cw6?activetab=pivot:overviewtab
Minesweeper 2 Pro King – no ads & good size. Weird but good font. Only has custom mode and no scores.

Summary so far. I’ve already removed those with flashing ads.

None anywhere as good as I had on Windows 7.
Where I had Good size, Easy-start, Scores and no failures.

By Easy-start I mean the first click always finds a spot with no mines in the surrounding 8 spaces. That saves time clicking at random to find a starting point.

Summary so far. I’ve already removed those with flashing ads.

None anywhere as good as I had on Windows 7.
Where I had Good size, Easy-start, Scores and no failures.

By Easy-start I mean the first click always finds a spot with no mines in the surrounding 8 spaces. That saves time clicking at random to find a starting point.

Time To Write Your Own Then

SCIENCE said:

Time To Write Your Own Then

I loved what you wrote. How did you do it?

I can’t do it in Fortran, which is my native language.

mollwollfumble said:

SCIENCE said:

Time To Write Your Own Then

I loved what you wrote. How did you do it?

I can’t do it in Fortran, which is my native language.

oh write, yeah we don’t know Fortran, we used JavaScript embedded in HTML as you will be able to examine in View Source through the browser

(though if you’re using a cut down device like a smartphone, then that may not be available)

(from memory the one we sent has functionality supporting use of smartphone, with secondary / tertiary / Nary fire emulated by multitouch)

since around 2012 the functionality of browsers has been good enough for this stuff, it’s worth learning

SCIENCE said:

mollwollfumble said:

SCIENCE said:

Time To Write Your Own Then

I loved what you wrote. How did you do it?

I can’t do it in Fortran, which is my native language.

oh write, yeah we don’t know Fortran, we used JavaScript embedded in HTML as you will be able to examine in View Source through the browser

(though if you’re using a cut down device like a smartphone, then that may not be available)

(from memory the one we sent has functionality supporting use of smartphone, with secondary / tertiary / Nary fire emulated by multitouch)

since around 2012 the functionality of browsers has been good enough for this stuff, it’s worth learning

> as you will be able to examine in View Source through the browser

Ah, yes. I should have thought of that.

SCIENCE said:

mollwollfumble said:

SCIENCE said:

we hear competitive tetromino dropping is all the rage these days

OK, let’s keep trying.

Aaarg.

I already know that some of these have in-app purchases, which I don’t want.

look fine then well give you this

http://void.byethost10.com/ms.html

not sure exactly the spec’s you want but tell us and it’s not a big thing to mod’ a little

Let’s see if I’ve got this

Um, Science? What exactly am I looking at here?

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font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div><div style="position: absolute; left: 780px; top: 572px; height: 52px; width: 52px; background-color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div><div style="position: absolute; left: 780px; top: 624px; height: 52px; width: 52px; background-color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div><div style="position: absolute; left: 780px; top: 676px; height: 52px; width: 52px; background-color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div><div style="position: absolute; left: 780px; top: 728px; height: 52px; width: 52px; background-color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div><div style="position: absolute; left: 780px; top: 780px; height: 52px; width: 52px; background-color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div></div>

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mollwollfumble said:

SCIENCE said:

mollwollfumble said:

OK, let’s keep trying.

Aaarg.

I already know that some of these have in-app purchases, which I don’t want.

look fine then well give you this

http://void.byethost10.com/ms.html

not sure exactly the spec’s you want but tell us and it’s not a big thing to mod’ a little

Let’s see if I’ve got this

Um, Science? What exactly am I looking at here?

//--></script><div style="position: absolute; left: 0px; top: 150px;"><div style="position: absolute; left: 0px; top: 0px; height: 52px; width: 52px; background-color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div>...<div style="position: absolute; left: 780px; top: 780px; height: 52px; width: 52px; background-color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div></div>

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Isn’t it obvious? That’s the layout of the minesweeper grid (the covered squares). Each <div style="..."></div> describes a single mine/non-mine location.

btm said:

mollwollfumble said:

SCIENCE said:

look fine then well give you this

http://void.byethost10.com/ms.html

not sure exactly the spec’s you want but tell us and it’s not a big thing to mod’ a little

Let’s see if I’ve got this

Um, Science? What exactly am I looking at here?

//--></script><div style="position: absolute; left: 0px; top: 150px;"><div style="position: absolute; left: 0px; top: 0px; height: 52px; width: 52px; background-color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div>...<div style="position: absolute; left: 780px; top: 780px; height: 52px; width: 52px; background-color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div></div>

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Isn’t it obvious? That’s the layout of the minesweeper grid (the covered squares). Each <div style="..."></div> describes a single mine/non-mine location.

Have a look at w3schools for a tutorial on html and javascript.

btm said:

mollwollfumble said:

SCIENCE said:

look fine then well give you this

http://void.byethost10.com/ms.html

not sure exactly the spec’s you want but tell us and it’s not a big thing to mod’ a little

Let’s see if I’ve got this

Um, Science? What exactly am I looking at here?

//--></script><div style="position: absolute; left: 0px; top: 150px;"><div style="position: absolute; left: 0px; top: 0px; height: 52px; width: 52px; background-color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div>...<div style="position: absolute; left: 780px; top: 780px; height: 52px; width: 52px; background-color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div></div>

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Isn’t it obvious? That’s the layout of the minesweeper grid (the covered squares). Each <div style="..."></div> describes a single mine/non-mine location.

Thanks, wasn’t obvious to me. Makes sense now.

That means if I want to have the usual easy, medium. hard, extreme levels then I need four of these?
What about custom width and height number of squares?

btm said:

Have a look at w3schools for a tutorial on html and javascript.

Ta. Am starting to look at it.
I don’t know whether my brain has sufficient empty capacity to fit all that in, though.

mollwollfumble said:

btm said:

mollwollfumble said:

Let’s see if I’ve got this

Um, Science? What exactly am I looking at here?

//--></script><div style="position: absolute; left: 0px; top: 150px;"><div style="position: absolute; left: 0px; top: 0px; height: 52px; width: 52px; background-color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div>...<div style="position: absolute; left: 780px; top: 780px; height: 52px; width: 52px; background-color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div></div>

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Isn’t it obvious? That’s the layout of the minesweeper grid (the covered squares). Each <div style="..."></div> describes a single mine/non-mine location.

Thanks, wasn’t obvious to me. Makes sense now.

That means if I want to have the usual easy, medium. hard, extreme levels then I need four of these?
What about custom width and height number of squares?

What you pasted here is HTML; you want the javascript. The js to produce that html can be found in the source for the page SCIENCE posted, but this is it:

// populate each column array
for (x = 0; x < COLUMNS + 2; x++) {
 for (y = 0; y < ROWS + 2; y++) {
  d = document.createElement(“div”);
  grid = {state: STATE.CLOSED, content: 0, div: d};
  d.style.position = “absolute”;
  d.style.left = ((x – 1) * gridSize).toString(10) + “px”;
  d.style.top = ((y – 1) * gridSize).toString(10) + “px”;
  d.style.width = d.style.height = gridSize.toString(10) + “px”;
  d.style.backgroundColor = “#c0c0c0”;
  d.style.textAlign = “center”;
  d.style.fontWeight = “bold”;
  d.style.fontSize = (16 * gridSize / 20).toString(10) + “px”;
  d.style.cursor = “crosshair”;
  d.gridXY = {x: x, y: y};
 }
}

Elsewhere in the js you can set the difficulty and size of the field.

Minesweeper is frustrating because there’s often that choice right at the end where you just have to gamble and then lose, after making all the right calculated decisions for the other boxes.

Bubblecar said:

Minesweeper is frustrating because there’s often that choice right at the end where you just have to gamble and then lose, after making all the right calculated decisions for the other boxes.

true but also part of the fun

btm said:

mollwollfumble said:

btm said:

mollwollfumble said:

Let’s see if I’ve got this

Um, Science? What exactly am I looking at here?

//--></script><div style="position: absolute; left: 0px; top: 150px;"><div style="position: absolute; left: 0px; top: 0px; height: 52px; width: 52px; background-color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div>...<div style="position: absolute; left: 780px; top: 780px; height: 52px; width: 52px; background-color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-size: 41.6px; cursor: crosshair; border: 5.2px outset rgb(224, 224, 224);"></div></div>

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Isn’t it obvious? That’s the layout of the minesweeper grid (the covered squares). Each <div style="..."></div> describes a single mine/non-mine location.

Thanks, wasn’t obvious to me. Makes sense now.

That means if I want to have the usual easy, medium. hard, extreme levels then I need four of these?
What about custom width and height number of squares?

What you pasted here is HTML; you want the javascript. The js to produce that html can be found in the source for the page SCIENCE posted, but this is it:

// populate each column array
for (x = 0; x < COLUMNS + 2; x++) {
…
}

Elsewhere in the js you can set the difficulty and size of the field.

please note all the div-div stuff mollwollfumble pasted is generated by the script, and not in the original source (and as btm states, is the grid)

we’re not sure what source view mollwollfumble used to end up with the generated code (our browsers don’t display it in ViewSource but Inspect brings it up), but just in case it’s helpful, we attach the original source file listing below without generated code

we appreciate that it is old and often scrappy code, and feedback is welcome, noting of course that updates may have already been applied

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