Date: 24/02/2022 22:02:15
From: buffy
ID: 1852384
Subject: Antikythera

Again in SciAm there is an interesting piece written by the lead author from this paper:

“A Model of the Cosmos in the ancient Greek Antikythera Mechanism”

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-84310-w

Seems to be the latest update, published last year. It’s a fascinating thing.

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Date: 24/02/2022 22:13:46
From: sibeen
ID: 1852389
Subject: re: Antikythera

buffy said:


Again in SciAm there is an interesting piece written by the lead author from this paper:

“A Model of the Cosmos in the ancient Greek Antikythera Mechanism”

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-84310-w

Seems to be the latest update, published last year. It’s a fascinating thing.

If it really piques your interest a look at the videos done by clickspring are well worth a look.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCworsKCR-Sx6R6-BnIjS2MA

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Date: 25/02/2022 10:02:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1852490
Subject: re: Antikythera

It is a fascinating thing.
I’ve been keeping tabs on any new discoveries.

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Date: 26/02/2022 15:01:17
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1853095
Subject: re: Antikythera

How can it be any new discoveries?

It was discovered 120 years ago, has been X-rayed umpteen times, and the mechanism has been replicated hundreds of times.

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Date: 26/02/2022 15:04:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1853097
Subject: re: Antikythera

mollwollfumble said:


How can it be any new discoveries?

It was discovered 120 years ago, has been X-rayed umpteen times, and the mechanism has been replicated hundreds of times.

Yet we still don’t know a lot about it.

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Date: 27/02/2022 07:52:27
From: Ogmog
ID: 1853386
Subject: re: Antikythera

mollwollfumble said:


How can it be any new discoveries?

It was discovered 120 years ago, has been X-rayed umpteen times, and the mechanism has been replicated hundreds of times.

In truth, what wasn’t oxidized in a solid mass

is still being discovered as fragments mistakenly
jumbled together with fragments of yet to be examined
bits and pieces. Although it was initially discovered over a
century ago, the full scope of what they had found was yet to be
appreciated for what it actually was/is/ and is yet to be fully realized.

It also seems that the more they discover, the more precious it becomes
and the less likely the museum curators are to allow this unique object to be
taken out of their sight/care and now even from the atmosphere controlled vault
it’s being preserved in. For one thing, it’s now being pawed over by people of every
discipline imaginable from mathematicians, language experts, historians & cartographers.

It seems that every time they find something they’d assumed was a meaningless hole, or etching
or fragment that had been fitted in incorrectly they have to rethink that which they’d assumed earlier.

IMO, the initial error was made in underestimating the genius that went into the invention from the jump.

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Date: 27/02/2022 08:25:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1853391
Subject: re: Antikythera

Ogmog said:


mollwollfumble said:

How can it be any new discoveries?

It was discovered 120 years ago, has been X-rayed umpteen times, and the mechanism has been replicated hundreds of times.

In truth, what wasn’t oxidized in a solid mass

is still being discovered as fragments mistakenly
jumbled together with fragments of yet to be examined
bits and pieces. Although it was initially discovered over a
century ago, the full scope of what they had found was yet to be
appreciated for what it actually was/is/ and is yet to be fully realized.

It also seems that the more they discover, the more precious it becomes
and the less likely the museum curators are to allow this unique object to be
taken out of their sight/care and now even from the atmosphere controlled vault
it’s being preserved in. For one thing, it’s now being pawed over by people of every
discipline imaginable from mathematicians, language experts, historians & cartographers.

It seems that every time they find something they’d assumed was a meaningless hole, or etching
or fragment that had been fitted in incorrectly they have to rethink that which they’d assumed earlier.

IMO, the initial error was made in underestimating the genius that went into the invention from the jump.

Can one buy a replica anywhere.

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Date: 27/02/2022 08:28:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1853392
Subject: re: Antikythera

Tau.Neutrino said:


Ogmog said:

mollwollfumble said:

How can it be any new discoveries?

It was discovered 120 years ago, has been X-rayed umpteen times, and the mechanism has been replicated hundreds of times.

In truth, what wasn’t oxidized in a solid mass

is still being discovered as fragments mistakenly
jumbled together with fragments of yet to be examined
bits and pieces. Although it was initially discovered over a
century ago, the full scope of what they had found was yet to be
appreciated for what it actually was/is/ and is yet to be fully realized.

It also seems that the more they discover, the more precious it becomes
and the less likely the museum curators are to allow this unique object to be
taken out of their sight/care and now even from the atmosphere controlled vault
it’s being preserved in. For one thing, it’s now being pawed over by people of every
discipline imaginable from mathematicians, language experts, historians & cartographers.

It seems that every time they find something they’d assumed was a meaningless hole, or etching
or fragment that had been fitted in incorrectly they have to rethink that which they’d assumed earlier.

IMO, the initial error was made in underestimating the genius that went into the invention from the jump.

Can one buy a replica anywhere.

It would be more fun to build one from plans.

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Date: 27/02/2022 08:34:10
From: Michael V
ID: 1853396
Subject: re: Antikythera

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Ogmog said:

In truth, what wasn’t oxidized in a solid mass

is still being discovered as fragments mistakenly
jumbled together with fragments of yet to be examined
bits and pieces. Although it was initially discovered over a
century ago, the full scope of what they had found was yet to be
appreciated for what it actually was/is/ and is yet to be fully realized.

It also seems that the more they discover, the more precious it becomes
and the less likely the museum curators are to allow this unique object to be
taken out of their sight/care and now even from the atmosphere controlled vault
it’s being preserved in. For one thing, it’s now being pawed over by people of every
discipline imaginable from mathematicians, language experts, historians & cartographers.

It seems that every time they find something they’d assumed was a meaningless hole, or etching
or fragment that had been fitted in incorrectly they have to rethink that which they’d assumed earlier.

IMO, the initial error was made in underestimating the genius that went into the invention from the jump.

Can one buy a replica anywhere.

It would be more fun to build one from plans.

Have a look around. I seem to recall one made entirely of Lego.

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Date: 27/02/2022 09:11:33
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1853401
Subject: re: Antikythera

Books

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Date: 27/02/2022 09:17:50
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1853404
Subject: re: Antikythera

3D CAD Model

https://grabcad.com/library/antikythera-mechanism-4

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Date: 27/02/2022 09:20:43
From: Dark Orange
ID: 1853407
Subject: re: Antikythera

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Ogmog said:

In truth, what wasn’t oxidized in a solid mass

is still being discovered as fragments mistakenly
jumbled together with fragments of yet to be examined
bits and pieces. Although it was initially discovered over a
century ago, the full scope of what they had found was yet to be
appreciated for what it actually was/is/ and is yet to be fully realized.

It also seems that the more they discover, the more precious it becomes
and the less likely the museum curators are to allow this unique object to be
taken out of their sight/care and now even from the atmosphere controlled vault
it’s being preserved in. For one thing, it’s now being pawed over by people of every
discipline imaginable from mathematicians, language experts, historians & cartographers.

It seems that every time they find something they’d assumed was a meaningless hole, or etching
or fragment that had been fitted in incorrectly they have to rethink that which they’d assumed earlier.

IMO, the initial error was made in underestimating the genius that went into the invention from the jump.

Can one buy a replica anywhere.

It would be more fun to build one from plans.

Here’s an Aussie bloke making one as close to the assumed original as possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4tw_UzqZE&ab_channel=Clickspring

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Date: 27/02/2022 09:25:12
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1853409
Subject: re: Antikythera

Tau.Neutrino said:


Books


I wonder how many similar objects there are buried under the waves.

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Date: 27/02/2022 10:14:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1853421
Subject: re: Antikythera

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Books


I wonder how many similar objects there are buried under the waves.

Could be more, yes.

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Date: 10/07/2024 18:20:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2173461
Subject: re: Antikythera

roughbarked said:

monkey skipper said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Gravitational wave researchers cast new light on Antikythera mechanism mystery

I’m a bit sceptical that this really needs statistical techniques derived just for gravitational wave detection.

But QI, nonetheless.

¿“needs”?

Look, it’sn’t like the method of edge waves in the physical theory of diffraction could ever be useful to determine the response of eggs to a cooking process, or how corn might pop in a steel box.

read that, cheers

YouTuber helps researchers solve the mystery of a 2,000-year-old ‘computer’

Jenny McGrath; edited by Jessica Orwig Jul 4, 2024, 8:09 PM ET

- Researchers think they’ve solved the 2,200-year-old mystery of the Antikythera mechanism.
- The ancient device, found in a shipwreck, likely followed a Greek lunar calendar.
- They used statistical modeling techniques typically used to study ripples in space-time.

https://www.businessinsider.com/antikythera-mechanism-mystery-gravitational-waves-calendar-2024-7?

Threadworthy Witty

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/05/science/antikythera-mechanism-gravitational-waves-lunar.html?unlocked_article_code=1.500.tWLm.sbKIPH_fFjQi&smid=url-share

So they’ll have this cracked in 20 years or so yeah¿

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