Sick of having to go back multiple pages

https://theshot.net.au/general-news/what-a-tool-believes-or-pretends-to-believe/

Link

The leader of the Ukraine.
And ours.

Spiny Norman said:

The leader of the Ukraine.
And ours.

One is a comedian who became the leader we’d all love to have.

The other is a clown who…

Never mind.

I have to acknowledge that unlike the UK and US I’m glad Australia has avoided mainstreaming the really nutty conservative movements. Pro-Putin and Pro-Covid voices have been marginalised and more or less forced out of the large conservative parties.

dv said:

I have to acknowledge that unlike the UK and US I’m glad Australia has avoided mainstreaming the really nutty conservative movements. Pro-Putin and Pro-Covid voices have been marginalised and more or less forced out of the large conservative parties.

^

but next you’ll be singing their praises

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

I have to acknowledge that unlike the UK and US I’m glad Australia has avoided mainstreaming the really nutty conservative movements. Pro-Putin and Pro-Covid voices have been marginalised and more or less forced out of the large conservative parties.

^

but next you’ll be singing their praises

… will I just?

JudgeMental said:

The usual suspects circling peoples misfortune to see how they can exploit it for their political gain.
Sad.

Peak Warming Man said:

JudgeMental said:

The usual suspects circling peoples misfortune to see how they can exploit it for their political gain.
Sad.

That’s the LNP in a nutshell.

Peak Warming Man said:

JudgeMental said:

The usual suspects circling peoples misfortune to see how they can exploit it for their political gain.
Sad.

Yeah it’s sad that only left-wingers are prepared to hold politicians to account.

I wonder when SCoMo will be on the ground, so to speak, in Lismore with a fire hose.

Woodie said:

I wonder when SCoMo will be on the ground, so to speak, in Lismore with a fire hose.

SCoMo should get his old friend to part water, that would be useful.

In fact there’s a lot of places where his old friend could part water.

JudgeMental said:

Peak Warming Man said:

JudgeMental said:

The usual suspects circling peoples misfortune to see how they can exploit it for their political gain.
Sad.

That’s the LNP in a nutshell.

It’s a wonder that he didn’t suggest holding a cake stall or a raffle to help out the flood victims.

Woodie said:

I wonder when SCoMo will be on the ground, so to speak, in Lismore with a fire hose.

Probably be a photo opp pic of him soon, in a hi-vis, baling water into someone’s flood ed house.

Zelensky: a comedian who turned to to be an excellent president.

Morrison: a prime minister who turned out to be a fabulous clown.

captain_spalding said:

Zelensky: a comedian who turned to to be an excellent president.

Morrison: a prime minister who turned out to be a fabulous clown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgOSrw9Q8rc

Link

JudgeMental said:

captain_spalding said:

Zelensky: a comedian who turned to to be an excellent president.

Morrison: a prime minister who turned out to be a fabulous clown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgOSrw9Q8rc

Link

I think i saw Merv Hughes in there.

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

captain_spalding said:

Zelensky: a comedian who turned to to be an excellent president.

Morrison: a prime minister who turned out to be a fabulous clown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgOSrw9Q8rc

Link

I think i saw Merv Hughes in there.

Сначала ты танцуешь на шпильках,а через 5 лет «избранный президент краини

First you dance in high heels, and after 5 years “the elected president of the country

JudgeMental said:

Hmmmmm.

captain_spalding said:

Zelensky: a comedian who turned to to be an excellent president.

Morrison: a prime minister who turned out to be a fabulous clown.

LOLOL

Dark Orange said:

I’m not sure this is really the time for political point scoring… seems all a bit petty to me

diddly-squat said:

Dark Orange said:

I’m not sure this is really the time for political point scoring… seems all a bit petty to me

Re Elect Rudc

diddly-squat said:

Dark Orange said:

I’m not sure this is really the time for political point scoring… seems all a bit petty to me

(shrugs) Politics is important and this kind of observation is key to making sure that good decisions are made at elections

diddly-squat said:

Dark Orange said:

I’m not sure this is really the time for political point scoring… seems all a bit petty to me

No. Now is the time.

But ‘ BUT SERIOUSLY! A FUNDRAISER … they made $800M interest on the $2B UNSPENT Bushfire Recovery money !!!!!!!’- that can’t be right.

dv said:

diddly-squat said:

Dark Orange said:

I’m not sure this is really the time for political point scoring… seems all a bit petty to me

(shrugs) Politics is important and this kind of observation is key to making sure that good decisions are made at elections

not sure calling anyone a fool is all that insightful, or helpful.

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

diddly-squat said:

I’m not sure this is really the time for political point scoring… seems all a bit petty to me

(shrugs) Politics is important and this kind of observation is key to making sure that good decisions are made at elections

not sure calling anyone a fool is all that insightful, or helpful.

He didn’t call anyone a fool, he said “shambolic”

dv said:

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

(shrugs) Politics is important and this kind of observation is key to making sure that good decisions are made at elections

not sure calling anyone a fool is all that insightful, or helpful.

He didn’t call anyone a fool, he said “shambolic”

he said both shambolic and fool

dv said:

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

(shrugs) Politics is important and this kind of observation is key to making sure that good decisions are made at elections

not sure calling anyone a fool is all that insightful, or helpful.

He didn’t call anyone a fool, he said “shambolic”

He does, you fool. But it is a saying that is in general use in this context.

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

diddly-squat said:

not sure calling anyone a fool is all that insightful, or helpful.

He didn’t call anyone a fool, he said “shambolic”

he said both shambolic and fool

as a former ALP PM this is how I would have written that tweet..

Memo to Dutton: Launching a GoFundMe for local flood victims is not appropriate. It is the role of the federal govt to act in natural disasters. You are a senior member of the govt, you should not only know better, you should do better.

JudgeMental said:

dv said:

diddly-squat said:

not sure calling anyone a fool is all that insightful, or helpful.

He didn’t call anyone a fool, he said “shambolic”

He does, you fool. But it is a saying that is in general use in this context.

Also why are we getting upset at an ex prime minister telling the truth ¿

diddly-squat said:

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

He didn’t call anyone a fool, he said “shambolic”

he said both shambolic and fool

as a former ALP PM this is how I would have written that tweet..

Memo to Dutton: Launching a GoFundMe for local flood victims is not appropriate. It is the role of the federal govt to act in natural disasters. You are a senior member of the govt, you should not only know better, you should do better.

You’re supposed to use the siren when on official Tone Police duty

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

diddly-squat said:

I’m not sure this is really the time for political point scoring… seems all a bit petty to me

(shrugs) Politics is important and this kind of observation is key to making sure that good decisions are made at elections

not sure calling anyone a fool is all that insightful, or helpful.

Not usually.

But, Dutton is a fool, after all.

dv said:

diddly-squat said:

diddly-squat said:

he said both shambolic and fool

as a former ALP PM this is how I would have written that tweet..

Memo to Dutton: Launching a GoFundMe for local flood victims is not appropriate. It is the role of the federal govt to act in natural disasters. You are a senior member of the govt, you should not only know better, you should do better.

You’re supposed to use the siren when on official Tone Police duty

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That’s why ds would make a better former PM than me. I’d just have tweeted “die screaming spud”

dv said:

diddly-squat said:

diddly-squat said:

he said both shambolic and fool

as a former ALP PM this is how I would have written that tweet..

Memo to Dutton: Launching a GoFundMe for local flood victims is not appropriate. It is the role of the federal govt to act in natural disasters. You are a senior member of the govt, you should not only know better, you should do better.

You’re supposed to use the siren when on official Tone Police duty

That’s only when the perp’ is nonmale or nonwhite or noncis or nonagonal…

diddly-squat said:

Dark Orange said:

I’m not sure this is really the time for political point scoring… seems all a bit petty to me

But what he says is 100% true.

captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

dv said:

(shrugs) Politics is important and this kind of observation is key to making sure that good decisions are made at elections

not sure calling anyone a fool is all that insightful, or helpful.

Not usually.

But, Dutton is a fool, after all.

Dutton is calculating, and intelligent, and driven, and you could argue an arsehole.. but he’s not a fool.

dv said:

That’s why ds would make a better former PM than me. I’d just have tweeted “die screaming spud”

DV: all you potatoes will be first against the wall under my new, and beautiful, regime

Dark Orange said:

diddly-squat said:

Dark Orange said:

I’m not sure this is really the time for political point scoring… seems all a bit petty to me

But what he says is 100% true.

How Dare Politicians Tell The Truth When It Benefits Them

diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

not sure calling anyone a fool is all that insightful, or helpful.

Not usually.

But, Dutton is a fool, after all.

Dutton is calculating, and intelligent, and driven, and you could argue an arsehole.. but he’s not a fool.

sorry we seem to be misreading that, did you say SpuDtin or VladPiotr or something

diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

not sure calling anyone a fool is all that insightful, or helpful.

Not usually.

But, Dutton is a fool, after all.

Dutton is calculating, and intelligent, and driven, and you could argue an arsehole.. but he’s not a fool.

except at the numbers game…

Thank Perrottet For That

The NSW corruption watchdog has found former Labor MP Ernest Wong engaged in serious corrupt conduct as part of a scheme to circumvent the state’s donation laws.

JudgeMental said:

diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

Not usually.

But, Dutton is a fool, after all.

Dutton is calculating, and intelligent, and driven, and you could argue an arsehole.. but he’s not a fool.

except at the numbers game…

well there is, IMO, at least one more guy that is more calculating, more intelligent, more driven and much more of an arsehole.. and he can count

Honest Government Ad | United Australia Party

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8ovERhq6uw

—
one of the best yet.

diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

not sure calling anyone a fool is all that insightful, or helpful.

Not usually.

But, Dutton is a fool, after all.

Dutton is calculating, and intelligent, and driven, and you could argue an arsehole.. but he’s not a fool.

No, you’re right, he’s not. Which makes it worse.

captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

Not usually.

But, Dutton is a fool, after all.

Dutton is calculating, and intelligent, and driven, and you could argue an arsehole.. but he’s not a fool.

No, you’re right, he’s not. Which makes it worse.

yes, it does..

diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

not sure calling anyone a fool is all that insightful, or helpful.

Not usually.

But, Dutton is a fool, after all.

Dutton is calculating, and intelligent, and driven, and you could argue an arsehole.. but he’s not a fool.

He knows that a significant proportion of the electorate are stupid.

dv said:

That’s why ds would make a better former PM than me. I’d just have tweeted “die screaming spud”

LOLOL

:)

captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

Not usually.

But, Dutton is a fool, after all.

Dutton is calculating, and intelligent, and driven, and you could argue an arsehole.. but he’s not a fool.

No, you’re right, he’s not. Which makes it worse.

By being deliberate you mean?

roughbarked said:

diddly-squat said:

captain_spalding said:

Not usually.

But, Dutton is a fool, after all.

Dutton is calculating, and intelligent, and driven, and you could argue an arsehole.. but he’s not a fool.

He knows that a significant proportion of the electorate are stupid.

it’s not a particularly high SES area, but then partisan markers here in Aust are starting to trend away from purely economic indicators and it would seem more toward people’s tertiary education status. So stupid is not the right word (in fact it’s not a very good word to use in this context at all), it’s that he knows his electorate is not made up of a lot of highly educated people.

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

diddly-squat said:

Dutton is calculating, and intelligent, and driven, and you could argue an arsehole.. but he’s not a fool.

No, you’re right, he’s not. Which makes it worse.

By being deliberate you mean?

Dutton may not be a fool, but whoever runs his social media accounts for him is a fool.

What sort of response were they expecting to a post like that.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

No, you’re right, he’s not. Which makes it worse.

By being deliberate you mean?

Dutton may not be a fool, but whoever runs his social media accounts for him is a fool.

What sort of response were they expecting to a post like that.

A better one, I think

diddly-squat said:

JudgeMental said:

diddly-squat said:

Dutton is calculating, and intelligent, and driven, and you could argue an arsehole.. but he’s not a fool.

except at the numbers game…

well there is, IMO, at least one more guy that is more calculating, more intelligent, more driven and much more of an arsehole.. and he can count

Much more of an arsehole than Dutton?

Surely not?

JudgeMental said:

:)

JudgeMental said:

:)

JudgeMental said:

shouldn’t he be off on holiday somewhere?

Arts said:

JudgeMental said:

shouldn’t he be off on holiday somewhere?

In a soundproof room.

speaking of Corruption check this CHINA style name

Labor’s opposition foreign affairs spokesperson achieved Qantas Frequent Flyer Lifetime Platinum Status (our caps, not Wong’s) in the final week of February – a designation, in our books, on par with an Australia Day honour or even the top gong on Dancing With The Stars.

quick quick call election now ¡¡¡ do it

Australia’s economy has just posted its equal-best quarter of growth in 46 years,

Meta rejects Craig Kelly’s demand to suspend factchecking on Facebook during election campaign

Meta has rejected a demand from United Australia party leader Craig Kelly to suspend its community standards enforcement and factchecking on politicians’ posts on Facebook during the upcoming federal election campaign.

More…

Dumbass he is.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Meta rejects Craig Kelly’s demand to suspend factchecking on Facebook during election campaign

Meta has rejected a demand from United Australia party leader Craig Kelly to suspend its community standards enforcement and factchecking on politicians’ posts on Facebook during the upcoming federal election campaign.

More…

Dumbass he is.

Not sure which is the better headline: UAP demand a cessation of fact checks or Clive Palmer buys Hitler’s Benz from Russian oligarch. Who votes for these dickheads?

dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Meta rejects Craig Kelly’s demand to suspend factchecking on Facebook during election campaign

Meta has rejected a demand from United Australia party leader Craig Kelly to suspend its community standards enforcement and factchecking on politicians’ posts on Facebook during the upcoming federal election campaign.

More…

Dumbass he is.

Not sure which is the better headline: UAP demand a cessation of fact checks or Clive Palmer buys Hitler’s Benz from Russian oligarch. Who votes for these dickheads?

Other brain-dead dickheads, I’d opine.

Michael V said:

dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Meta rejects Craig Kelly’s demand to suspend factchecking on Facebook during election campaign

Meta has rejected a demand from United Australia party leader Craig Kelly to suspend its community standards enforcement and factchecking on politicians’ posts on Facebook during the upcoming federal election campaign.

More…

Dumbass he is.

Not sure which is the better headline: UAP demand a cessation of fact checks or Clive Palmer buys Hitler’s Benz from Russian oligarch. Who votes for these dickheads?

Other brain-dead dickheads, I’d opine.

I’m not sure the brain-dead dickheads realise what a ride they have been taken on.

Former South Australian state Labor MPs Tom Kenyon and Jack Snelling have quit their former party over “moves to restrict religious freedom” and announced their intention to reactivate the Family First party and field candidates at the state election next March. The original Family First was folded into Australian Conservatives when Cory Bernardi joined it in 2016 and wound up at his behest after its failure at the 2019 federal election. Kenyon and Snelling have long been associated with the Shop Distributive and Allied Employees Association sub-faction of the Right, which is in turn associated with Catholicism and social conservatism, and includes among its number the party’s state leader, Peter Malinauskas. Paul Starick of The Advertiser reports this has the approval of party co-founder Andrew Evans; presumably this explains it obtaining the old party’s database of 6000 supporters, as reported by David Penberthy of The Australian. Whereas the old party consistently directed preferences to the Liberals, Snelling has ruled out preference deals with either major party.

https://www.pollbludger.net/2021/07/29/family-first-the-second/

dv said:

Former South Australian state Labor MPs Tom Kenyon and Jack Snelling have quit their former party over “moves to restrict religious freedom” and announced their intention to reactivate the Family First party and field candidates at the state election next March. The original Family First was folded into Australian Conservatives when Cory Bernardi joined it in 2016 and wound up at his behest after its failure at the 2019 federal election. Kenyon and Snelling have long been associated with the Shop Distributive and Allied Employees Association sub-faction of the Right, which is in turn associated with Catholicism and social conservatism, and includes among its number the party’s state leader, Peter Malinauskas. Paul Starick of The Advertiser reports this has the approval of party co-founder Andrew Evans; presumably this explains it obtaining the old party’s database of 6000 supporters, as reported by David Penberthy of The Australian. Whereas the old party consistently directed preferences to the Liberals, Snelling has ruled out preference deals with either major party.

https://www.pollbludger.net/2021/07/29/family-first-the-second/

If people are serious and fair about religious freedom it must include freedom from religion especially if you leave and people leave you the f alone.

dv said:

Former South Australian state Labor MPs Tom Kenyon and Jack Snelling have quit their former party over “moves to restrict religious freedom” and announced their intention to reactivate the Family First party and field candidates at the state election next March. The original Family First was folded into Australian Conservatives when Cory Bernardi joined it in 2016 and wound up at his behest after its failure at the 2019 federal election. Kenyon and Snelling have long been associated with the Shop Distributive and Allied Employees Association sub-faction of the Right, which is in turn associated with Catholicism and social conservatism, and includes among its number the party’s state leader, Peter Malinauskas. Paul Starick of The Advertiser reports this has the approval of party co-founder Andrew Evans; presumably this explains it obtaining the old party’s database of 6000 supporters, as reported by David Penberthy of The Australian. Whereas the old party consistently directed preferences to the Liberals, Snelling has ruled out preference deals with either major party.

https://www.pollbludger.net/2021/07/29/family-first-the-second/

The old divisions between left and right are certainly getting a little fuzzy these days.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Former South Australian state Labor MPs Tom Kenyon and Jack Snelling have quit their former party over “moves to restrict religious freedom” and announced their intention to reactivate the Family First party and field candidates at the state election next March. The original Family First was folded into Australian Conservatives when Cory Bernardi joined it in 2016 and wound up at his behest after its failure at the 2019 federal election. Kenyon and Snelling have long been associated with the Shop Distributive and Allied Employees Association sub-faction of the Right, which is in turn associated with Catholicism and social conservatism, and includes among its number the party’s state leader, Peter Malinauskas. Paul Starick of The Advertiser reports this has the approval of party co-founder Andrew Evans; presumably this explains it obtaining the old party’s database of 6000 supporters, as reported by David Penberthy of The Australian. Whereas the old party consistently directed preferences to the Liberals, Snelling has ruled out preference deals with either major party.

https://www.pollbludger.net/2021/07/29/family-first-the-second/

The old divisions between left and right are certainly getting a little fuzzy these days.

It’s been that way a while. Gough famously described SDA head Joe de Brugn as a ‘Dutchman who doesn’t like dykes’. And there is a long tradition of Labor MPs swapping sides when the party became too Bolshie from way before the split.

My goodness there is a lot of election jitters going on.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-03/cph-liberals-abandon-promised-commuter-car-parks/100878930

:)

Clive Palmer denies claim he bought car used by Adolf Hitler

Media report, dismissed as ‘fake news’ by Palmer’s team, claimed Palmer intended to include Mercedes in planned car museum

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/mar/03/clive-palmer-denies-claim-he-bought-car-used-by-adolf-hitler

sarahs mum said:

Clive Palmer denies claim he bought car used by Adolf Hitler

Media report, dismissed as ‘fake news’ by Palmer’s team, claimed Palmer intended to include Mercedes in planned car museum

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/mar/03/clive-palmer-denies-claim-he-bought-car-used-by-adolf-hitler

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

Clive Palmer denies claim he bought car used by Adolf Hitler

Media report, dismissed as ‘fake news’ by Palmer’s team, claimed Palmer intended to include Mercedes in planned car museum

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/mar/03/clive-palmer-denies-claim-he-bought-car-used-by-adolf-hitler

Clive Palmer “I’m O’Brien, have you read my book The Big Game”

Cymek said:

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

Clive Palmer denies claim he bought car used by Adolf Hitler

Media report, dismissed as ‘fake news’ by Palmer’s team, claimed Palmer intended to include Mercedes in planned car museum

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/mar/03/clive-palmer-denies-claim-he-bought-car-used-by-adolf-hitler

Clive Palmer “I’m O’Brien, have you read my book The Big Game”

I’n‘t get the reference

Latest rumour – Morrison is having an affair.
And there’s going to be a big FriendlyJordies video tomorrow, I wonder if that’s the subject of it.

Federal Labor has been accused of playing “cheap politics” after claiming Liberal electorates were prioritised for flood assistance.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-03/services-australia-flood-sites-not-chosen-by-federal-government/100878458

Peak Warming Man said:

Federal Labor has been accused of playing “cheap politics” after claiming Liberal electorates were prioritised for flood assistance.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-03/services-australia-flood-sites-not-chosen-by-federal-government/100878458

so it works

sorry genius you failed to consider that maybe the wishes of the people are to have stupid arseholes in power

SCIENCE said:

sorry genius you failed to consider that maybe the wishes of the people are to have stupid arseholes in power

In that same news conference he had a spray at the kids wearing masks.

https://www.newsweek.com/desantis-attacked-parents-video-students-masks-viral-1684413

DeSantis, a vocal opponent of mask and vaccine mandates, admonished a group of high school students for wearing masks before delivering remarks on Wednesday at a press conference at the University of South Florida in Tampa.

After stepping on stage, DeSantis told the students, from Middleton High School in Tampa, who were standing behind him: “You do not have to wear those masks. I mean, please take them off. Honestly, it’s not doing anything and we’ve gotta stop with this COVID theater.”

——

daft cunt

SCIENCE said:

sorry genius you failed to consider that maybe the wishes of the people are to have stupid arseholes in power

There sure are a lot of arseholes in positions of power.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

sorry genius you failed to consider that maybe the wishes of the people are to have stupid arseholes in power

In that same news conference he had a spray at the kids wearing masks.

https://www.newsweek.com/desantis-attacked-parents-video-students-masks-viral-1684413

DeSantis, a vocal opponent of mask and vaccine mandates, admonished a group of high school students for wearing masks before delivering remarks on Wednesday at a press conference at the University of South Florida in Tampa.

After stepping on stage, DeSantis told the students, from Middleton High School in Tampa, who were standing behind him: “You do not have to wear those masks. I mean, please take them off. Honestly, it’s not doing anything and we’ve gotta stop with this COVID theater.”

——

daft cunt

So many stupid people in America.

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

sorry genius you failed to consider that maybe the wishes of the people are to have stupid arseholes in power

In that same news conference he had a spray at the kids wearing masks.

https://www.newsweek.com/desantis-attacked-parents-video-students-masks-viral-1684413

DeSantis, a vocal opponent of mask and vaccine mandates, admonished a group of high school students for wearing masks before delivering remarks on Wednesday at a press conference at the University of South Florida in Tampa.

After stepping on stage, DeSantis told the students, from Middleton High School in Tampa, who were standing behind him: “You do not have to wear those masks. I mean, please take them off. Honestly, it’s not doing anything and we’ve gotta stop with this COVID theater.”

——

daft cunt

So many stupid people in America.

70000 people have died of Covid in Florida under DeSantis’s watch.

dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

In that same news conference he had a spray at the kids wearing masks.

https://www.newsweek.com/desantis-attacked-parents-video-students-masks-viral-1684413

DeSantis, a vocal opponent of mask and vaccine mandates, admonished a group of high school students for wearing masks before delivering remarks on Wednesday at a press conference at the University of South Florida in Tampa.

After stepping on stage, DeSantis told the students, from Middleton High School in Tampa, who were standing behind him: “You do not have to wear those masks. I mean, please take them off. Honestly, it’s not doing anything and we’ve gotta stop with this COVID theater.”

——

daft cunt

So many stupid people in America.

70000 people have died of Covid in Florida under DeSantis’s watch.

Governor Ron DeSantis is a criminally stupid and not fit for office.

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

sorry genius you failed to consider that maybe the wishes of the people are to have stupid arseholes in power

There sure are a lot of arseholes in positions of power.

Positions of power are what they crave. It is where one can actually use that power to be an arsehole.

Soon To Be ExLabor Parliamentarian Joins Corruption Ranks

Mr Fitzgibbon said the company, Fitzgibbon Advisory, had not undertaken any business

He told the ABC he had “no idea” whether he would use the company to perform lobbying or government relations work

Under parliamentary rules, members must update the register of interests within 28 days of becoming a director or shareholder of a company

SCIENCE said:

Soon To Be ExLabor Parliamentarian Joins Corruption Ranks

Mr Fitzgibbon said the company, Fitzgibbon Advisory, had not undertaken any business

He told the ABC he had “no idea” whether he would use the company to perform lobbying or government relations work

Under parliamentary rules, members must update the register of interests within 28 days of becoming a director or shareholder of a company

:)

I have a company and no idea what to do with it.

Give me your email address and I can send you hundreds of ideas.

The Baddest MP: Dutton

friendlyjordies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIGKCkS01EA

sarahs mum said:

The Baddest MP: Dutton

friendlyjordies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIGKCkS01EA

Jésus Mehmet Christi but damn you and we know full well that it’ll obviously be worse under Labor the dirty fucking communist bastards

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

The Baddest MP: Dutton

friendlyjordies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIGKCkS01EA

Jésus Mehmet Christi but damn you and we know full well that it’ll obviously be worse under Labor the dirty fucking communist bastards

Jordies is the closest thing we have these days to investigative journalism.

sarahs mum said:

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

The Baddest MP: Dutton

friendlyjordies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIGKCkS01EA

Jésus Mehmet Christi but damn you and we know full well that it’ll obviously be worse under Labor the dirty fucking communist bastards

Jordies is the closest thing we have these days to investigative journalism.

That’s not at all true.

Witty Rejoinder said:

sarahs mum said:

SCIENCE said:

Jésus Mehmet Christi but damn you and we know full well that it’ll obviously be worse under Labor the dirty fucking communist bastards

Jordies is the closest thing we have these days to investigative journalism.

That’s not at all true.

According to Spiny Friendlyjordies was going to reveal that Scott Morrison is having an affair with Grace Tame today or some such.

Peak Warming Man said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

sarahs mum said:

Jordies is the closest thing we have these days to investigative journalism.

That’s not at all true.

According to Spiny Friendlyjordies was going to reveal that Scott Morrison is having an affair with Grace Tame today or some such.

No, I just wrote that it was a possibility. Such a thing is doing the rounds on Twitter. To be honest I’d be surprised if he was having an affair. No doubt at all that he is a piece of shit but I doubt he’d do that.

bump

Ta:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-04/alan-tudge-quits-ministry-after-abuse-allegation/100832724

Bridget McKenzie defends the Federal government’s spending on flooding mitigation on Sky News with
@ljayes following devastating floods in New South Wales. “We don’t own the bulldozers, so we partner with state governments to actually get that work done.”

Shame on you Peter

11 weeks, at most, til the next election.

6 weeks until the election must be called.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/mar/07/morrison-decries-arc-of-autocracy-reshaping-world-as-he-pledges-to-build-nuclear-submarine-base

Link

The Australian prime minister will use a key foreign policy speech on Monday to warn against “a transactional world, devoid of principle, accountability and transparency”.

LOL.

JudgeMental said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/mar/07/morrison-decries-arc-of-autocracy-reshaping-world-as-he-pledges-to-build-nuclear-submarine-base

Link

The Australian prime minister will use a key foreign policy speech on Monday to warn against “a transactional world, devoid of principle, accountability and transparency”.

LOL.

Do you think he’ll convince anyone?

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/mar/07/morrison-decries-arc-of-autocracy-reshaping-world-as-he-pledges-to-build-nuclear-submarine-base

Link

The Australian prime minister will use a key foreign policy speech on Monday to warn against “a transactional world, devoid of principle, accountability and transparency”.

LOL.

Do you think he’ll convince anyone?

yes

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/mar/07/morrison-decries-arc-of-autocracy-reshaping-world-as-he-pledges-to-build-nuclear-submarine-base

Link

The Australian prime minister will use a key foreign policy speech on Monday to warn against “a transactional world, devoid of principle, accountability and transparency”.

LOL.

Do you think he’ll convince anyone?

yes

Going on his personal and governmental principle accountability and transparency, how?

https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2022/03/06/insurance-floods-climate/

Link

https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2022/03/07/alan-kohler-lismore-climate-change/

Link

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Do you think he’ll convince anyone?

yes

Going on his personal and governmental principle accountability and transparency, how?

d’n‘o’, have people ever believed lying cheating arseholes before

JudgeMental said:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2022/03/07/alan-kohler-lismore-climate-change/

Link

Should Kohler really be commenting on this; I don’t think he’s got any qualifications in climate science.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/it-will-take-more-than-josh-frydenberg-s-bluster-to-keep-the-economy-growing-20220306-p5a24c.html

Link

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2022/03/07/alan-kohler-lismore-climate-change/

Link

Should Kohler really be commenting on this; I don’t think he’s got any qualifications in climate science.

No, but he is an unqualified money-grubber.

JudgeMental said:

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/it-will-take-more-than-josh-frydenberg-s-bluster-to-keep-the-economy-growing-20220306-p5a24c.html

Link

in fairness we thought reported growth rates were the highest in like 4371628347 years but what would we know

Ian said:

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2022/03/07/alan-kohler-lismore-climate-change/

Link

Should Kohler really be commenting on this; I don’t think he’s got any qualifications in climate science.

No, but he is an unqualified money-grubber.

he is?

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/it-will-take-more-than-josh-frydenberg-s-bluster-to-keep-the-economy-growing-20220306-p5a24c.html

Link

in fairness we thought reported growth rates were the highest in like 4371628347 years but what would we know

Trouble is, the (temporary) surges in consumer spending whenever we end a period of lockdown have given the impression the economy is booming, while concealing the truth that, after allowing for inflation, wages have been falling, not rising.

JudgeMental said:

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/it-will-take-more-than-josh-frydenberg-s-bluster-to-keep-the-economy-growing-20220306-p5a24c.html

Link

what if it doesn’t grow?

what if it just sort of stays the same for a little bit?

Will the rivers turn to blood, the birds fall from the sky, and fields and forests wither and decay?

JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/it-will-take-more-than-josh-frydenberg-s-bluster-to-keep-the-economy-growing-20220306-p5a24c.html

Link

in fairness we thought reported growth rates were the highest in like 4371628347 years but what would we know

Trouble is, the (temporary) surges in consumer spending whenever we end a period of lockdown have given the impression the economy is booming, while concealing the truth that, after allowing for inflation, wages have been falling, not rising.

indeed, even simpler, we get that after a year of -50% growth and then a year of +50% growth, the economy is still fucked compared to where it was

but the earlier ^ ^^ messaging is the shit we’re up against so

captain_spalding said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/it-will-take-more-than-josh-frydenberg-s-bluster-to-keep-the-economy-growing-20220306-p5a24c.html

Link

what if it doesn’t grow?

what if it just sort of stays the same for a little bit?

Will the rivers turn to blood, the birds fall from the sky, and fields and forests wither and decay?

Nay is a word that could end a line in that stanza.

JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/it-will-take-more-than-josh-frydenberg-s-bluster-to-keep-the-economy-growing-20220306-p5a24c.html

Link

in fairness we thought reported growth rates were the highest in like 4371628347 years but what would we know

Trouble is, the (temporary) surges in consumer spending whenever we end a period of lockdown have given the impression the economy is booming, while concealing the truth that, after allowing for inflation, wages have been falling, not rising.

You sound like that Kohler ratbag.

Ian said:

JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

in fairness we thought reported growth rates were the highest in like 4371628347 years but what would we know

Trouble is, the (temporary) surges in consumer spending whenever we end a period of lockdown have given the impression the economy is booming, while concealing the truth that, after allowing for inflation, wages have been falling, not rising.

You sound like that Kohler ratbag.

meh, you’re sounding like Moll.

Clive Palmer aroused ‘anger and madness’ that contributed to death threats against family, Mark McGowan tells court
By Rebecca Trigger

Ian said:

JudgeMental said:

SCIENCE said:

in fairness we thought reported growth rates were the highest in like 4371628347 years but what would we know

Trouble is, the (temporary) surges in consumer spending whenever we end a period of lockdown have given the impression the economy is booming, while concealing the truth that, after allowing for inflation, wages have been falling, not rising.

You sound like that Kohler ratbag.

Did he have anything to say about the apparent lack of unemployment?

roughbarked said:

Ian said:

JudgeMental said:

Trouble is, the (temporary) surges in consumer spending whenever we end a period of lockdown have given the impression the economy is booming, while concealing the truth that, after allowing for inflation, wages have been falling, not rising.

You sound like that Kohler ratbag.

Did he have anything to say about the apparent lack of unemployment?

yes, fifth para.

JudgeMental said:

Ian said:

JudgeMental said:

Trouble is, the (temporary) surges in consumer spending whenever we end a period of lockdown have given the impression the economy is booming, while concealing the truth that, after allowing for inflation, wages have been falling, not rising.

You sound like that Kohler ratbag.

meh, you’re sounding like Moll.

I do wake up some mornings feeling particularly stupid.

JudgeMental said:

roughbarked said:

Ian said:

You sound like that Kohler ratbag.

Did he have anything to say about the apparent lack of unemployment?

yes, fifth para.

No, I tell a lie, it’s the seventh.

Ian said:

JudgeMental said:

Ian said:

You sound like that Kohler ratbag.

meh, you’re sounding like Moll.

I do wake up some mornings feeling particularly stupid.

Ivermectin for you.

JudgeMental said:

JudgeMental said:

roughbarked said:

Did he have anything to say about the apparent lack of unemployment?

yes, fifth para.

No, I tell a lie, it’s the seventh.

oh but this skilled counting makes economic expertise believable yeah

NSW Liberals dissolved after months of feuding.

The NSW Liberal Party will be temporarily dissolved and sitting MPs protected from preselection after months of factional infighting.

Scott Morrison and Premier Dominic Perrottet will step in and run the NSW Liberal Party under a federal intervention order sparked by months of factional infighting.

The federal executive voted on Friday to intervene and try and resolve the mess with multiple candidates in key seats still not settled as a result of the mess, just weeks out from the expected announcement of a federal election.

The Prime Minister had backed the intervention if the NSW branch was unable to resolve the matter.

In a statement, the Liberal Party Federal Executive confirmed it has “resolved unanimously to intervene”.

A committee will now run the branch.

“The term of the appointment of the Committee commenced immediately upon the passing of this resolution and ends at 5.00pm on Tuesday 8 March 2022,” a spokesman said.

https://global-herald.com/news/australia/nsw-liberals-dissolved-after-months-of-feuding/

Spiny Norman said:

NSW Liberals dissolved after months of feuding.

The NSW Liberal Party will be temporarily dissolved and sitting MPs protected from preselection after months of factional infighting.

Scott Morrison and Premier Dominic Perrottet will step in and run the NSW Liberal Party under a federal intervention order sparked by months of factional infighting.

The federal executive voted on Friday to intervene and try and resolve the mess with multiple candidates in key seats still not settled as a result of the mess, just weeks out from the expected announcement of a federal election.

The Prime Minister had backed the intervention if the NSW branch was unable to resolve the matter.

In a statement, the Liberal Party Federal Executive confirmed it has “resolved unanimously to intervene”.

A committee will now run the branch.

“The term of the appointment of the Committee commenced immediately upon the passing of this resolution and ends at 5.00pm on Tuesday 8 March 2022,” a spokesman said.

https://global-herald.com/news/australia/nsw-liberals-dissolved-after-months-of-feuding/

GoodO. With those two loons running the fracas, it could turnout a real melee.

Spiny Norman said:

NSW Liberals dissolved after months of feuding.

The NSW Liberal Party will be temporarily dissolved and sitting MPs protected from preselection after months of factional infighting.

Scott Morrison and Premier Dominic Perrottet will step in and run the NSW Liberal Party under a federal intervention order sparked by months of factional infighting.

The federal executive voted on Friday to intervene and try and resolve the mess with multiple candidates in key seats still not settled as a result of the mess, just weeks out from the expected announcement of a federal election.

The Prime Minister had backed the intervention if the NSW branch was unable to resolve the matter.

In a statement, the Liberal Party Federal Executive confirmed it has “resolved unanimously to intervene”.

A committee will now run the branch.

“The term of the appointment of the Committee commenced immediately upon the passing of this resolution and ends at 5.00pm on Tuesday 8 March 2022,” a spokesman said.

https://global-herald.com/news/australia/nsw-liberals-dissolved-after-months-of-feuding/

By rights they ought to dissolve the NSW government if they’ve dissolved the party in power.

Bubblecar said:

Spiny Norman said:

NSW Liberals dissolved after months of feuding.

The NSW Liberal Party will be temporarily dissolved and sitting MPs protected from preselection after months of factional infighting.

Scott Morrison and Premier Dominic Perrottet will step in and run the NSW Liberal Party under a federal intervention order sparked by months of factional infighting.

The federal executive voted on Friday to intervene and try and resolve the mess with multiple candidates in key seats still not settled as a result of the mess, just weeks out from the expected announcement of a federal election.

The Prime Minister had backed the intervention if the NSW branch was unable to resolve the matter.

In a statement, the Liberal Party Federal Executive confirmed it has “resolved unanimously to intervene”.

A committee will now run the branch.

“The term of the appointment of the Committee commenced immediately upon the passing of this resolution and ends at 5.00pm on Tuesday 8 March 2022,” a spokesman said.

https://global-herald.com/news/australia/nsw-liberals-dissolved-after-months-of-feuding/

By rights they ought to dissolve the NSW government if they’ve dissolved the party in power.

They’ve probably got a way around that which takes until after the fed election to resolve.

Bubblecar said:

Spiny Norman said:

NSW Liberals dissolved after months of feuding.

The NSW Liberal Party will be temporarily dissolved and sitting MPs protected from preselection after months of factional infighting.

Scott Morrison and Premier Dominic Perrottet will step in and run the NSW Liberal Party under a federal intervention order sparked by months of factional infighting.

The federal executive voted on Friday to intervene and try and resolve the mess with multiple candidates in key seats still not settled as a result of the mess, just weeks out from the expected announcement of a federal election.

The Prime Minister had backed the intervention if the NSW branch was unable to resolve the matter.

In a statement, the Liberal Party Federal Executive confirmed it has “resolved unanimously to intervene”.

A committee will now run the branch.

“The term of the appointment of the Committee commenced immediately upon the passing of this resolution and ends at 5.00pm on Tuesday 8 March 2022,” a spokesman said.

https://global-herald.com/news/australia/nsw-liberals-dissolved-after-months-of-feuding/

By rights they ought to dissolve the NSW government if they’ve dissolved the party in power.

Nah.

claimed

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Spiny Norman said:

NSW Liberals dissolved after months of feuding.

The NSW Liberal Party will be temporarily dissolved and sitting MPs protected from preselection after months of factional infighting.

Scott Morrison and Premier Dominic Perrottet will step in and run the NSW Liberal Party under a federal intervention order sparked by months of factional infighting.

The federal executive voted on Friday to intervene and try and resolve the mess with multiple candidates in key seats still not settled as a result of the mess, just weeks out from the expected announcement of a federal election.

The Prime Minister had backed the intervention if the NSW branch was unable to resolve the matter.

In a statement, the Liberal Party Federal Executive confirmed it has “resolved unanimously to intervene”.

A committee will now run the branch.

“The term of the appointment of the Committee commenced immediately upon the passing of this resolution and ends at 5.00pm on Tuesday 8 March 2022,” a spokesman said.

https://global-herald.com/news/australia/nsw-liberals-dissolved-after-months-of-feuding/

By rights they ought to dissolve the NSW government if they’ve dissolved the party in power.

They’ve probably got a way around that which takes until after the fed election to resolve.

I would imagine there is a separation between elected members and the “party”.

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Spiny Norman said:

NSW Liberals dissolved after months of feuding.

The NSW Liberal Party will be temporarily dissolved and sitting MPs protected from preselection after months of factional infighting.

Scott Morrison and Premier Dominic Perrottet will step in and run the NSW Liberal Party under a federal intervention order sparked by months of factional infighting.

The federal executive voted on Friday to intervene and try and resolve the mess with multiple candidates in key seats still not settled as a result of the mess, just weeks out from the expected announcement of a federal election.

The Prime Minister had backed the intervention if the NSW branch was unable to resolve the matter.

In a statement, the Liberal Party Federal Executive confirmed it has “resolved unanimously to intervene”.

A committee will now run the branch.

“The term of the appointment of the Committee commenced immediately upon the passing of this resolution and ends at 5.00pm on Tuesday 8 March 2022,” a spokesman said.

https://global-herald.com/news/australia/nsw-liberals-dissolved-after-months-of-feuding/

By rights they ought to dissolve the NSW government if they’ve dissolved the party in power.

Nah.

I know it’s not in the rules but nonetheless I SAY they ought to dissolve the government.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

By rights they ought to dissolve the NSW government if they’ve dissolved the party in power.

Nah.

I know it’s not in the rules but nonetheless I SAY they ought to dissolve the government.

Mate, what we SAY is just like screaming at the TV.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

By rights they ought to dissolve the NSW government if they’ve dissolved the party in power.

Nah.

I know it’s not in the rules but nonetheless I SAY they ought to dissolve the government.

You have my permission, go for it.

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Nah.

I know it’s not in the rules but nonetheless I SAY they ought to dissolve the government.

Mate, what we SAY is just like screaming at the TV.

I DON’T HAVE A TV!!!

JudgeMental said:

roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

I know it’s not in the rules but nonetheless I SAY they ought to dissolve the government.

Mate, what we SAY is just like screaming at the TV.

I DON’T HAVE A TV!!!

I have a TV but I never watch the news on it.

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2022/03/07/alan-kohler-lismore-climate-change/

Link

Should Kohler really be commenting on this; I don’t think he’s got any qualifications in climate science.

Do you need a background in climate science to discuss the implications of the projections of climate scientists in a field you’re an expert in?

Bubblecar said:

JudgeMental said:

roughbarked said:

Mate, what we SAY is just like screaming at the TV.

I DON’T HAVE A TV!!!

I have a TV but I never watch the news on it.

Our TV is not receiving any signals. I suspect the regional re-broadcast station at Cooloola Cove was struck by lightning yesterday evening.

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2022/03/07/alan-kohler-lismore-climate-change/

Link

Should Kohler really be commenting on this; I don’t think he’s got any qualifications in climate science.

Do you need a background in climate science to discuss the implications of the projections of climate scientists in a field you’re an expert in?

I think that was the rule that was implemented last week.

sibeen said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

Should Kohler really be commenting on this; I don’t think he’s got any qualifications in climate science.

Do you need a background in climate science to discuss the implications of the projections of climate scientists in a field you’re an expert in?

I think that was the rule that was implemented last week.

Last week?! Catch up!

sibeen said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

Should Kohler really be commenting on this; I don’t think he’s got any qualifications in climate science.

Do you need a background in climate science to discuss the implications of the projections of climate scientists in a field you’re an expert in?

I think that was the rule that was implemented last week.

I must have missed that. What happened?

sibeen said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

Should Kohler really be commenting on this; I don’t think he’s got any qualifications in climate science.

Do you need a background in climate science to discuss the implications of the projections of climate scientists in a field you’re an expert in?

I think that was the rule that was implemented last week.

I thought it only applied to people called Tim though.

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/opinion/2022/03/07/alan-kohler-lismore-climate-change/

Link

Should Kohler really be commenting on this; I don’t think he’s got any qualifications in climate science.

Should Kohler be working for the ABC?

On Friday last week, independent investigative journalist, Jordan Shanks (Friendlyjordies), released an explosive video about one of the most powerful Ministers in the Morrison Government. Since then, the story has sunk without a trace. What is going on?

Is this the mainstream news media refusing to admit Friendlyjordies has beaten them to a scandal, or is Defence Minister Peter Dutton being protected from scrutiny by his mates in the media?

As of writing, over 300,000 people have watched the Friendlyjordies piece. The investigation intricately maps out some very specific allegations about the business dealings of Dutton’s friends, including sources alleging sex scandals, drugs and dodgy dealings in lucrative government contracts.

One of the people involved in the web of intrigue exposed by Shanks is Ryan Shaw, who up until Wednesday was the Liberal National Party’s candidate for the marginal seat of Lilley. Shaw, an Army veteran, has been campaigning in the seat for months, including with Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

The seat is held by Labor MP Anika Wells by the wafer-thin margin of 0.64 per cent. Not just any candidate gets placed in a must-win marginal seat. Shaw’s withdrawal, citing family and mental health issues, is a big loss to the L-NP considering they are left without a candidate weeks out from the Election and after the much-wasted investment of time and resources.

Although it is impossible to know exactly why Shaw withdrew, it is more than a little coincidental that the decision was made at the exact same time as Shanks and his team were questioning Shaw about his involvement with people in the incredibly suspect chain of events detailed in the video.

I’ve spent a lot of time around politics and I know a candidate doesn’t withdraw their candidacy over any small thing. The Friendlyjordies allegations, if they could be batted away, no doubt would have been to save Shaw’s position. Yet they weren’t.

But it isn’t just Shaw who had questions to answer over his association with people directly implicated by allegations in the explosive story. Peter Dutton is also associated with key players.

Not only does Dutton hold the powerful position of Minister for Defence, but he is also a contender for leader of the Liberal Party, should Morrison choose to step down after the Election. This scandal therefore has all the ingredients you would think the mainstream media would need to make it top priority for journalist follow up.

Senior Minister in the Morrison Government — check. A high profile candidate stepping down seemingly for no reason weeks out from the Election — check. Allegations of government contracts being used to enrich Liberal Party donors — check. Allegations of drug-fueled parties and drug-taking — check.

When I said explosive, I wasn’t kidding. Yet, so far, in the days since the story broke, there has been a wall of silence from mainstream media outlets.

The Sydney Morning Herald and the Courier Mail reported Ryan Shaw’s decision to step down from his Lilley candidacy on Wednesday, but haven’t run any follow ups since Friendlyjordies’ video went live on Friday. No mainstream media outlets that I have been able to find have mentioned the allegations made in the video, despite these allegations being evidenced with a series of damning leaked photos and emails.

On Sunday, by chance, Peter Dutton was interviewed at length by David Speers on ABC’s Insiders program. It is true that there is much on the Defence Minister’s agenda, what with the war in Ukraine and the Queensland and NSW floods, but there was plenty of time for at least one question about the Shanks allegations in the video. The Minister is not meant to define the agenda of the interview; the whole point of such questioning is to hold the Minister to account. This opportunity was missed.

So, what makes this story so untouchable by mainstream journalists? It is true that journalists like to be able to use their own sources to verify the details these stories, rather than solely relying on Jordan Shanks’ interpretation of scandal. Yet, it is also true that once there is a whiff of a scandal, usually journalists waste no time piggybacking off any allegation they can get their hands on to demand that the politician “has questions to answer”.

Many will complain the problem is the mainstream media’s lack of scrutiny of the Liberal Government, full stop. Too many journalists, particularly at Murdoch outlets and often at Nine’s formally-proudly-independent-Fairfax outlets, are far too willing to allow the Liberal Government to use news media as a propaganda machine, rather than its actual purpose — scrutinising the Government. This is surely part of the problem.

But perhaps, too, another related reason for the lack of interest in the story is that Friendyjordies is no friend of the media establishment. Perhaps mainstream journalists see it as below them to use Jordan Shanks as a source of newsworthy tips. Perhaps it is too embarrassing to be a journalist working for a major news outlet and to have this scandal going on right under their noses, but not to have had the talent and contacts to dig it out for themselves.

Whatever the reasons, which are complicated and multifaceted, at the end of the day, the audience is the ones being let down. The public has a right to know what their political leaders are up to and to use that information to make smart decisions when they vote. Whatever role Dutton has played in this scandal, he should be answerable to the public. And if the news media refuses to even mention the story, let alone pressure Dutton to explain his involvement, then it is a very sad day indeed for democracy.

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/friendlyjordies-allegations-against-dutton-met-with-silence,16122

sarahs mum said:

On Friday last week, independent investigative journalist, Jordan Shanks (Friendlyjordies), released an explosive video about one of the most powerful Ministers in the Morrison Government. Since then, the story has sunk without a trace. What is going on?

Is this the mainstream news media refusing to admit Friendlyjordies has beaten them to a scandal, or is Defence Minister Peter Dutton being protected from scrutiny by his mates in the media?

As of writing, over 300,000 people have watched the Friendlyjordies piece. The investigation intricately maps out some very specific allegations about the business dealings of Dutton’s friends, including sources alleging sex scandals, drugs and dodgy dealings in lucrative government contracts.

One of the people involved in the web of intrigue exposed by Shanks is Ryan Shaw, who up until Wednesday was the Liberal National Party’s candidate for the marginal seat of Lilley. Shaw, an Army veteran, has been campaigning in the seat for months, including with Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

The seat is held by Labor MP Anika Wells by the wafer-thin margin of 0.64 per cent. Not just any candidate gets placed in a must-win marginal seat. Shaw’s withdrawal, citing family and mental health issues, is a big loss to the L-NP considering they are left without a candidate weeks out from the Election and after the much-wasted investment of time and resources.

Although it is impossible to know exactly why Shaw withdrew, it is more than a little coincidental that the decision was made at the exact same time as Shanks and his team were questioning Shaw about his involvement with people in the incredibly suspect chain of events detailed in the video.

I’ve spent a lot of time around politics and I know a candidate doesn’t withdraw their candidacy over any small thing. The Friendlyjordies allegations, if they could be batted away, no doubt would have been to save Shaw’s position. Yet they weren’t.

But it isn’t just Shaw who had questions to answer over his association with people directly implicated by allegations in the explosive story. Peter Dutton is also associated with key players.

Not only does Dutton hold the powerful position of Minister for Defence, but he is also a contender for leader of the Liberal Party, should Morrison choose to step down after the Election. This scandal therefore has all the ingredients you would think the mainstream media would need to make it top priority for journalist follow up.

Senior Minister in the Morrison Government — check. A high profile candidate stepping down seemingly for no reason weeks out from the Election — check. Allegations of government contracts being used to enrich Liberal Party donors — check. Allegations of drug-fueled parties and drug-taking — check.

When I said explosive, I wasn’t kidding. Yet, so far, in the days since the story broke, there has been a wall of silence from mainstream media outlets.

The Sydney Morning Herald and the Courier Mail reported Ryan Shaw’s decision to step down from his Lilley candidacy on Wednesday, but haven’t run any follow ups since Friendlyjordies’ video went live on Friday. No mainstream media outlets that I have been able to find have mentioned the allegations made in the video, despite these allegations being evidenced with a series of damning leaked photos and emails.

On Sunday, by chance, Peter Dutton was interviewed at length by David Speers on ABC’s Insiders program. It is true that there is much on the Defence Minister’s agenda, what with the war in Ukraine and the Queensland and NSW floods, but there was plenty of time for at least one question about the Shanks allegations in the video. The Minister is not meant to define the agenda of the interview; the whole point of such questioning is to hold the Minister to account. This opportunity was missed.

So, what makes this story so untouchable by mainstream journalists? It is true that journalists like to be able to use their own sources to verify the details these stories, rather than solely relying on Jordan Shanks’ interpretation of scandal. Yet, it is also true that once there is a whiff of a scandal, usually journalists waste no time piggybacking off any allegation they can get their hands on to demand that the politician “has questions to answer”.

Many will complain the problem is the mainstream media’s lack of scrutiny of the Liberal Government, full stop. Too many journalists, particularly at Murdoch outlets and often at Nine’s formally-proudly-independent-Fairfax outlets, are far too willing to allow the Liberal Government to use news media as a propaganda machine, rather than its actual purpose — scrutinising the Government. This is surely part of the problem.

But perhaps, too, another related reason for the lack of interest in the story is that Friendyjordies is no friend of the media establishment. Perhaps mainstream journalists see it as below them to use Jordan Shanks as a source of newsworthy tips. Perhaps it is too embarrassing to be a journalist working for a major news outlet and to have this scandal going on right under their noses, but not to have had the talent and contacts to dig it out for themselves.

Whatever the reasons, which are complicated and multifaceted, at the end of the day, the audience is the ones being let down. The public has a right to know what their political leaders are up to and to use that information to make smart decisions when they vote. Whatever role Dutton has played in this scandal, he should be answerable to the public. And if the news media refuses to even mention the story, let alone pressure Dutton to explain his involvement, then it is a very sad day indeed for democracy.

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/friendlyjordies-allegations-against-dutton-met-with-silence,16122

Possibly their lawyers have advised against spreading this story unless their own reporters can produce evidence, rather than just refer to a Youtube source.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

On Friday last week, independent investigative journalist, Jordan Shanks (Friendlyjordies), released an explosive video about one of the most powerful Ministers in the Morrison Government. Since then, the story has sunk without a trace. What is going on?

Is this the mainstream news media refusing to admit Friendlyjordies has beaten them to a scandal, or is Defence Minister Peter Dutton being protected from scrutiny by his mates in the media?

As of writing, over 300,000 people have watched the Friendlyjordies piece. The investigation intricately maps out some very specific allegations about the business dealings of Dutton’s friends, including sources alleging sex scandals, drugs and dodgy dealings in lucrative government contracts.

One of the people involved in the web of intrigue exposed by Shanks is Ryan Shaw, who up until Wednesday was the Liberal National Party’s candidate for the marginal seat of Lilley. Shaw, an Army veteran, has been campaigning in the seat for months, including with Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

The seat is held by Labor MP Anika Wells by the wafer-thin margin of 0.64 per cent. Not just any candidate gets placed in a must-win marginal seat. Shaw’s withdrawal, citing family and mental health issues, is a big loss to the L-NP considering they are left without a candidate weeks out from the Election and after the much-wasted investment of time and resources.

Although it is impossible to know exactly why Shaw withdrew, it is more than a little coincidental that the decision was made at the exact same time as Shanks and his team were questioning Shaw about his involvement with people in the incredibly suspect chain of events detailed in the video.

I’ve spent a lot of time around politics and I know a candidate doesn’t withdraw their candidacy over any small thing. The Friendlyjordies allegations, if they could be batted away, no doubt would have been to save Shaw’s position. Yet they weren’t.

But it isn’t just Shaw who had questions to answer over his association with people directly implicated by allegations in the explosive story. Peter Dutton is also associated with key players.

Not only does Dutton hold the powerful position of Minister for Defence, but he is also a contender for leader of the Liberal Party, should Morrison choose to step down after the Election. This scandal therefore has all the ingredients you would think the mainstream media would need to make it top priority for journalist follow up.

Senior Minister in the Morrison Government — check. A high profile candidate stepping down seemingly for no reason weeks out from the Election — check. Allegations of government contracts being used to enrich Liberal Party donors — check. Allegations of drug-fueled parties and drug-taking — check.

When I said explosive, I wasn’t kidding. Yet, so far, in the days since the story broke, there has been a wall of silence from mainstream media outlets.

The Sydney Morning Herald and the Courier Mail reported Ryan Shaw’s decision to step down from his Lilley candidacy on Wednesday, but haven’t run any follow ups since Friendlyjordies’ video went live on Friday. No mainstream media outlets that I have been able to find have mentioned the allegations made in the video, despite these allegations being evidenced with a series of damning leaked photos and emails.

On Sunday, by chance, Peter Dutton was interviewed at length by David Speers on ABC’s Insiders program. It is true that there is much on the Defence Minister’s agenda, what with the war in Ukraine and the Queensland and NSW floods, but there was plenty of time for at least one question about the Shanks allegations in the video. The Minister is not meant to define the agenda of the interview; the whole point of such questioning is to hold the Minister to account. This opportunity was missed.

So, what makes this story so untouchable by mainstream journalists? It is true that journalists like to be able to use their own sources to verify the details these stories, rather than solely relying on Jordan Shanks’ interpretation of scandal. Yet, it is also true that once there is a whiff of a scandal, usually journalists waste no time piggybacking off any allegation they can get their hands on to demand that the politician “has questions to answer”.

Many will complain the problem is the mainstream media’s lack of scrutiny of the Liberal Government, full stop. Too many journalists, particularly at Murdoch outlets and often at Nine’s formally-proudly-independent-Fairfax outlets, are far too willing to allow the Liberal Government to use news media as a propaganda machine, rather than its actual purpose — scrutinising the Government. This is surely part of the problem.

But perhaps, too, another related reason for the lack of interest in the story is that Friendyjordies is no friend of the media establishment. Perhaps mainstream journalists see it as below them to use Jordan Shanks as a source of newsworthy tips. Perhaps it is too embarrassing to be a journalist working for a major news outlet and to have this scandal going on right under their noses, but not to have had the talent and contacts to dig it out for themselves.

Whatever the reasons, which are complicated and multifaceted, at the end of the day, the audience is the ones being let down. The public has a right to know what their political leaders are up to and to use that information to make smart decisions when they vote. Whatever role Dutton has played in this scandal, he should be answerable to the public. And if the news media refuses to even mention the story, let alone pressure Dutton to explain his involvement, then it is a very sad day indeed for democracy.

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/friendlyjordies-allegations-against-dutton-met-with-silence,16122

Possibly their lawyers have advised against spreading this story unless their own reporters can produce evidence, rather than just refer to a Youtube source.

And it’s not just News Ltd and Nine that are silen

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

On Friday last week, independent investigative journalist, Jordan Shanks (Friendlyjordies), released an explosive video about one of the most powerful Ministers in the Morrison Government. Since then, the story has sunk without a trace. What is going on?

Is this the mainstream news media refusing to admit Friendlyjordies has beaten them to a scandal, or is Defence Minister Peter Dutton being protected from scrutiny by his mates in the media?

As of writing, over 300,000 people have watched the Friendlyjordies piece. The investigation intricately maps out some very specific allegations about the business dealings of Dutton’s friends, including sources alleging sex scandals, drugs and dodgy dealings in lucrative government contracts.

One of the people involved in the web of intrigue exposed by Shanks is Ryan Shaw, who up until Wednesday was the Liberal National Party’s candidate for the marginal seat of Lilley. Shaw, an Army veteran, has been campaigning in the seat for months, including with Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

The seat is held by Labor MP Anika Wells by the wafer-thin margin of 0.64 per cent. Not just any candidate gets placed in a must-win marginal seat. Shaw’s withdrawal, citing family and mental health issues, is a big loss to the L-NP considering they are left without a candidate weeks out from the Election and after the much-wasted investment of time and resources.

Although it is impossible to know exactly why Shaw withdrew, it is more than a little coincidental that the decision was made at the exact same time as Shanks and his team were questioning Shaw about his involvement with people in the incredibly suspect chain of events detailed in the video.

I’ve spent a lot of time around politics and I know a candidate doesn’t withdraw their candidacy over any small thing. The Friendlyjordies allegations, if they could be batted away, no doubt would have been to save Shaw’s position. Yet they weren’t.

But it isn’t just Shaw who had questions to answer over his association with people directly implicated by allegations in the explosive story. Peter Dutton is also associated with key players.

Not only does Dutton hold the powerful position of Minister for Defence, but he is also a contender for leader of the Liberal Party, should Morrison choose to step down after the Election. This scandal therefore has all the ingredients you would think the mainstream media would need to make it top priority for journalist follow up.

Senior Minister in the Morrison Government — check. A high profile candidate stepping down seemingly for no reason weeks out from the Election — check. Allegations of government contracts being used to enrich Liberal Party donors — check. Allegations of drug-fueled parties and drug-taking — check.

When I said explosive, I wasn’t kidding. Yet, so far, in the days since the story broke, there has been a wall of silence from mainstream media outlets.

The Sydney Morning Herald and the Courier Mail reported Ryan Shaw’s decision to step down from his Lilley candidacy on Wednesday, but haven’t run any follow ups since Friendlyjordies’ video went live on Friday. No mainstream media outlets that I have been able to find have mentioned the allegations made in the video, despite these allegations being evidenced with a series of damning leaked photos and emails.

On Sunday, by chance, Peter Dutton was interviewed at length by David Speers on ABC’s Insiders program. It is true that there is much on the Defence Minister’s agenda, what with the war in Ukraine and the Queensland and NSW floods, but there was plenty of time for at least one question about the Shanks allegations in the video. The Minister is not meant to define the agenda of the interview; the whole point of such questioning is to hold the Minister to account. This opportunity was missed.

So, what makes this story so untouchable by mainstream journalists? It is true that journalists like to be able to use their own sources to verify the details these stories, rather than solely relying on Jordan Shanks’ interpretation of scandal. Yet, it is also true that once there is a whiff of a scandal, usually journalists waste no time piggybacking off any allegation they can get their hands on to demand that the politician “has questions to answer”.

Many will complain the problem is the mainstream media’s lack of scrutiny of the Liberal Government, full stop. Too many journalists, particularly at Murdoch outlets and often at Nine’s formally-proudly-independent-Fairfax outlets, are far too willing to allow the Liberal Government to use news media as a propaganda machine, rather than its actual purpose — scrutinising the Government. This is surely part of the problem.

But perhaps, too, another related reason for the lack of interest in the story is that Friendyjordies is no friend of the media establishment. Perhaps mainstream journalists see it as below them to use Jordan Shanks as a source of newsworthy tips. Perhaps it is too embarrassing to be a journalist working for a major news outlet and to have this scandal going on right under their noses, but not to have had the talent and contacts to dig it out for themselves.

Whatever the reasons, which are complicated and multifaceted, at the end of the day, the audience is the ones being let down. The public has a right to know what their political leaders are up to and to use that information to make smart decisions when they vote. Whatever role Dutton has played in this scandal, he should be answerable to the public. And if the news media refuses to even mention the story, let alone pressure Dutton to explain his involvement, then it is a very sad day indeed for democracy.

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/friendlyjordies-allegations-against-dutton-met-with-silence,16122

Possibly their lawyers have advised against spreading this story unless their own reporters can produce evidence, rather than just refer to a Youtube source.

And it’s not just News Ltd and Nine that are silent. What of the ABC?

ABC News:

‘‘Crazy price’: Russia-Ukraine war sparks surge in coal price to unprecedented levels
ABC Newcastle
/ By Ben Millington
The conflict between Russia and Ukraine has sent thermal coal prices rocketing to new heights, as some European countries look to ban Russian coal.’

The L/NP looks like being well cashed-up for the election, then.

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘‘Crazy price’: Russia-Ukraine war sparks surge in coal price to unprecedented levels
ABC Newcastle
/ By Ben Millington
The conflict between Russia and Ukraine has sent thermal coal prices rocketing to new heights, as some European countries look to ban Russian coal.’

The L/NP looks like being well cashed-up for the election, then.

It’s not called coal any more it’s called lignite.
Heard a German minister being interviewed on the BBC the other night and he said that they would be increasing their use of lignite due to the gas shortage. Coal was never mentioned.
It’s lignite pilgrim.

>Courageous feminism means no woman must be left behind – and that means trans women too

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/05/courageous-feminism-means-no-woman-must-be-left-behind-and-that-means-trans-women-too

Sorry to disappoint you Karen, but “transwomen” are not women.

You can’t be a transwoman unless you’re a man; it’s a defining characteristic of a transwoman.

A transwoman is a man who claims to identify as a woman.

A woman is not a man who claims to identify as a woman.

Transwomen are not women.

>LGBTQ+ people are at our best when we come together as one and call out the need to change in unified chorus.

I’m not a “LGBTQ+ people”, I’m a homosexual man. I have no reason to be lumped together with transgender people, most of whom are heterosexual and whose “trans” concerns are not my concerns at all.

Many gay men and very men lesbians feel the same – we don’t wish to participate in an “alphabet soup” that is increasingly homophobic, misogynist and dominated by cross-dressing heterosexual men whose concerns have nothing to do with us.

Bubblecar said:

>Courageous feminism means no woman must be left behind – and that means trans women too

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/05/courageous-feminism-means-no-woman-must-be-left-behind-and-that-means-trans-women-too

Sorry to disappoint you Karen, but “transwomen” are not women.

You can’t be a transwoman unless you’re a man; it’s a defining characteristic of a transwoman.

A transwoman is a man who claims to identify as a woman.

A woman is not a man who claims to identify as a woman.

Transwomen are not women.

>LGBTQ+ people are at our best when we come together as one and call out the need to change in unified chorus.

I’m not a “LGBTQ+ people”, I’m a homosexual man. I have no reason to be lumped together with transgender people, most of whom are heterosexual and whose “trans” concerns are not my concerns at all.

Many gay men and very men lesbians feel the same – we don’t wish to participate in an “alphabet soup” that is increasingly homophobic, misogynist and dominated by cross-dressing heterosexual men whose concerns have nothing to do with us.

Um, “very men lesbians” = very many lesbians :)

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

>Courageous feminism means no woman must be left behind – and that means trans women too

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/05/courageous-feminism-means-no-woman-must-be-left-behind-and-that-means-trans-women-too

Sorry to disappoint you Karen, but “transwomen” are not women.

You can’t be a transwoman unless you’re a man; it’s a defining characteristic of a transwoman.

A transwoman is a man who claims to identify as a woman.

A woman is not a man who claims to identify as a woman.

Transwomen are not women.

>LGBTQ+ people are at our best when we come together as one and call out the need to change in unified chorus.

I’m not a “LGBTQ+ people”, I’m a homosexual man. I have no reason to be lumped together with transgender people, most of whom are heterosexual and whose “trans” concerns are not my concerns at all.

Many gay men and very men lesbians feel the same – we don’t wish to participate in an “alphabet soup” that is increasingly homophobic, misogynist and dominated by cross-dressing heterosexual men whose concerns have nothing to do with us.

Um, “very men lesbians” = very many lesbians :)

Embarrassing since I explicitly meant the proper lesbians, who are women, not the men lesbians who are fake.

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘‘Crazy price’: Russia-Ukraine war sparks surge in coal price to unprecedented levels
ABC Newcastle
/ By Ben Millington
The conflict between Russia and Ukraine has sent thermal coal prices rocketing to new heights, as some European countries look to ban Russian coal.’

The L/NP looks like being well cashed-up for the election, then.

It’s not called coal any more it’s called lignite.
Heard a German minister being interviewed on the BBC the other night and he said that they would be increasing their use of lignite due to the gas shortage. Coal was never mentioned.
It’s lignite pilgrim.

so Putin has done in 2 weeks what 2 decades of climate science lobbying and grassroots action couldn’t

must be a climate hero

Read and form your own opinions. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-08/fact-check-scott-morrison-port-of-darwin-china-landbridge/100888740

https://theshot.net.au/general-news/the-war-in-ukraine-has-nothing-to-do-with-wokeness-youre-just-a-right-wing-nutjob/

Link

Humorous rant.

:-)

Bogsnorkler said:

https://theshot.net.au/general-news/the-war-in-ukraine-has-nothing-to-do-with-wokeness-youre-just-a-right-wing-nutjob/

Link

Humorous rant.

:-)

The older I get, the smarter conservatives ain’t

Dan Andrews and Victorian Labor have announced that they have completed their program of putting a mental health practitioner in every school, a year ahead of schedule.

dv said:

Dan Andrews and Victorian Labor have announced that they have completed their program of putting a mental health practitioner in every school, a year ahead of schedule.

we mean Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili also had an informant in every household but here’s something allegedly from Police State to consider

This is crazy! And our electoral and privacy laws cannot stop it happening.

Grrrrr.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-09/united-australia-party-membership-mystery/100891944

we mean we’re no fan of NSW Corruption and yet

A vet in northern New South Wales says “blatant animal cruelty” is ongoing across the region, blaming a slow response by agricultural authorities for hundreds of animals being left to suffer and starve.

New South Wales Agriculture Minister Dugald Saunders said authorities had done everything they could to reach animals stranded across the region. “This isn’t animal cruelty. This is what happens in a flood. We’ve seen whole herds washed down rivers, we’ve seen horses on balconies,” he said.

sometimes we feel they are sadly correct, it’s important to address the shit that happens as it is, without having to call it anything more

Michael V said:

This is crazy! And our electoral and privacy laws cannot stop it happening.

Grrrrr.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-09/united-australia-party-membership-mystery/100891944

“In an email response to the ABC, an AEC spokesperson said the Electoral Act did not provide the AEC with the power to investigate or audit the UAP’s membership.”

That seems to contradict this story.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-21/clp-nt-political-party-under-review-by-electoral-commission/100846232

“The AEC review is a legal requirement due to a law that says a party must either have a sitting federal politician or be able to prove it has 1,500 paid-up members to remain registered federally.”

Michael V said:

This is crazy! And our electoral and privacy laws cannot stop it happening.

Grrrrr.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-09/united-australia-party-membership-mystery/100891944

“ “Be assured that we have not and do not use anyone’s information ‘fraudulently’ as you put it? How would we even get your information?” the email, signed by the UAP’s membership team read.”

Every candidate in an election gets a complete list of registered voters in their electorate. You can pick any name you like and have their address in a flash.

Spiny Norman said:

Michael V said:

This is crazy! And our electoral and privacy laws cannot stop it happening.

Grrrrr.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-09/united-australia-party-membership-mystery/100891944

“ “Be assured that we have not and do not use anyone’s information ‘fraudulently’ as you put it? How would we even get your information?” the email, signed by the UAP’s membership team read.”

Every candidate in an election gets a complete list of registered voters in their electorate. You can pick any name you like and have their address in a flash.

They give you a USB stick of the electoral roll in the area.

Peter Hannam
@p_hannam
And it’s worth remembering that our ‘fastest GDP growth rate” in decades has been largely debt-fuelled, particularly as the federal level. According the mid-year forecasts from last November, the $1 trillion net debt ‘landmark’ is not that far down the track.

and yet youtube tells me that Labor would spend all of our dollars and make us penniless.

sarahs mum said:

Peter Hannam
@p_hannam
And it’s worth remembering that our ‘fastest GDP growth rate” in decades has been largely debt-fuelled, particularly as the federal level. According the mid-year forecasts from last November, the $1 trillion net debt ‘landmark’ is not that far down the track.

and yet youtube tells me that Labor would spend all of our dollars and make us penniless.

Australia’s economy was growing at its (equal) fastest rate since the March quarter of 1974 during the final three months of 2021.

What isn’t usually talked up by politicians is how much the debt binge by federal and state governments has been the propellant for much of the growth.

Last November, the federal mid-year update showed how the Commonwealth is on track for almost $1 tn (that’s $1,000,000,000,000, or about $40,000 per Australian) by 2024-25.

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Peter Hannam
@p_hannam
And it’s worth remembering that our ‘fastest GDP growth rate” in decades has been largely debt-fuelled, particularly as the federal level. According the mid-year forecasts from last November, the $1 trillion net debt ‘landmark’ is not that far down the track.

and yet youtube tells me that Labor would spend all of our dollars and make us penniless.

Australia’s economy was growing at its (equal) fastest rate since the March quarter of 1974 during the final three months of 2021.

What isn’t usually talked up by politicians is how much the debt binge by federal and state governments has been the propellant for much of the growth.

Last November, the federal mid-year update showed how the Commonwealth is on track for almost $1 tn (that’s $1,000,000,000,000, or about $40,000 per Australian) by 2024-25.

sarahs mum said:

Peter Hannam
@p_hannam
And it’s worth remembering that our ‘fastest GDP growth rate” in decades has been largely debt-fuelled, particularly as the federal level. According the mid-year forecasts from last November, the $1 trillion net debt ‘landmark’ is not that far down the track.

and yet youtube tells me that Labor would spend all of our dollars and make us penniless.

To be fair to the Feds they were propping up the economy during the pandemic.

sibeen said:

sarahs mum said:

Peter Hannam
@p_hannam
And it’s worth remembering that our ‘fastest GDP growth rate” in decades has been largely debt-fuelled, particularly as the federal level. According the mid-year forecasts from last November, the $1 trillion net debt ‘landmark’ is not that far down the track.

and yet youtube tells me that Labor would spend all of our dollars and make us penniless.

To be fair to the Feds they were propping up the economy during the pandemic.

Yeah. Not that I approve to the largesse shown to businesses that were doing fine/better than they ever have been. Although this bit does not include those payments which were not in this reckoning but prior reckonings.

Just thinking…

My father was a big strong Capt. type. Articulate. Interesting. Friendly. Remembered everyone’s names forever. And their wife’s name too. Always a smile.

But every now and then I would hear him go down stairs saying,’ I can’t win a trick’ followed by a time with the ABC on the AWA and the occasional hammering of something.

And I tell this story because I think that is where ScoMo is. I think I heard him think it. It won’t matter what he does from here on. He can’t win any tricks any more. Sad.

sarahs mum said:

Just thinking…

My father was a big strong Capt. type. Articulate. Interesting. Friendly. Remembered everyone’s names forever. And their wife’s name too. Always a smile.

But every now and then I would hear him go down stairs saying,’ I can’t win a trick’ followed by a time with the ABC on the AWA and the occasional hammering of something.

And I tell this story because I think that is where ScoMo is. I think I heard him think it. It won’t matter what he does from here on. He can’t win any tricks any more. Sad.

scomo is his worse enemy

when the bush burnt scomo was on holiday and told someone “ i don’t hold a hose mate”

the liberals could do better he’s an oxygen thief

Who knew you had to approve the funding submission from Lismore for flood mitigation works?
(damn 8 foot over the record.No one anywhere was planning for that…)

Kevin Rudd says ScoMo has these dirty tricks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwXdjwq0MF8

I am worse than ScoMo.

Today I looked up Lismore NSW on Google Earth just to remind myself exactly where it was.

sarahs mum said:

Just thinking…

My father was a big strong Capt. type. Articulate. Interesting. Friendly. Remembered everyone’s names forever. And their wife’s name too. Always a smile.

But every now and then I would hear him go down stairs saying,’ I can’t win a trick’ followed by a time with the ABC on the AWA and the occasional hammering of something.

And I tell this story because I think that is where ScoMo is. I think I heard him think it. It won’t matter what he does from here on. He can’t win any tricks any more. Sad.

So sad…

If he were to pull a rabbit from the hat at this late stage, chances are it would have myxomatosis.

SCIENCE said:

If he were to pull a rabbit from the hat at this late stage, chances are it would have myxomatosis.

LOL

Who said that?

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

If he were to pull a rabbit from the hat at this late stage, chances are it would have myxomatosis.

LOL

Who said that?

Andrew Probyn, ABC.

On Wednesday, Morrison thought any inquiry into the quality of the disaster response in the northern rivers was a matter for the New South Wales government – not him.

Morrison also thought a failure to scramble significant defence resources into the disaster zone was not actually a failure. The problem was people had unrealistic expectations about what governments could do.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/09/when-it-comes-to-climate-induced-disasters-the-coalition-wants-to-save-for-a-rainy-day-but-its-already-pouring

sarahs mum said:

On Wednesday, Morrison thought any inquiry into the quality of the disaster response in the northern rivers was a matter for the New South Wales government – not him.

Morrison also thought a failure to scramble significant defence resources into the disaster zone was not actually a failure. The problem was people had unrealistic expectations about what governments could do.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/09/when-it-comes-to-climate-induced-disasters-the-coalition-wants-to-save-for-a-rainy-day-but-its-already-pouring

He’ll find a clause for the cause, every time.

sarahs mum said:

On Wednesday, Morrison thought any inquiry into the quality of the disaster response in the northern rivers was a matter for the New South Wales government – not him.

Morrison also thought a failure to scramble significant defence resources into the disaster zone was not actually a failure. The problem was people had unrealistic expectations about what governments could do.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/09/when-it-comes-to-climate-induced-disasters-the-coalition-wants-to-save-for-a-rainy-day-but-its-already-pouring

It may be true about the government not being capable of people’s expectations

Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

On Wednesday, Morrison thought any inquiry into the quality of the disaster response in the northern rivers was a matter for the New South Wales government – not him.

Morrison also thought a failure to scramble significant defence resources into the disaster zone was not actually a failure. The problem was people had unrealistic expectations about what governments could do.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/09/when-it-comes-to-climate-induced-disasters-the-coalition-wants-to-save-for-a-rainy-day-but-its-already-pouring

It may be true about the government not being capable of people’s expectations

If they ever were.

The thing about expectations is that they most often bring disappointment.
Far better not to have any.

Scomo: Yes..climate change. We lead the world in the fight. The first to say zero emissions by 2050. It isn’t us. It is other countries that are the cause. We are just a small player.

Angus Taylor: Europe needs a gas lead recovery. Silly if they don’t. Open the whole basin and frack away!

ABC News:

Police drop Barilaro stalking charges against friendlyjordies producer Kristo Langker
By Jake Lapham
Charges are dropped and police ordered to pay thousands in legal costs for Kristo Langker, a producer of the Youtube comedy friendlyjordies, who was charged with four counts of stalking and intimidating former deputy premier John Barilaro.

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

Police drop Barilaro stalking charges against friendlyjordies producer Kristo Langker
By Jake Lapham
Charges are dropped and police ordered to pay thousands in legal costs for Kristo Langker, a producer of the Youtube comedy friendlyjordies, who was charged with four counts of stalking and intimidating former deputy premier John Barilaro.

As I said a little back there…it was a SLAPP. It wasn’t meant to go to the end anyway. It was just supposed to shut Jordies down. And it really didn’t work well at that.

sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

Police drop Barilaro stalking charges against friendlyjordies producer Kristo Langker
By Jake Lapham
Charges are dropped and police ordered to pay thousands in legal costs for Kristo Langker, a producer of the Youtube comedy friendlyjordies, who was charged with four counts of stalking and intimidating former deputy premier John Barilaro.

As I said a little back there…it was a SLAPP. It wasn’t meant to go to the end anyway. It was just supposed to shut Jordies down. And it really didn’t work well at that.

One of the reasons the stalking wasn’t going to stand up was that Kristo walked out of the Conservatorium where he is a student and saw Barilaro across the road and so he crossed the road and pulled out his phone to record and asked Barilaro about what he said about Friendly.

It wasn’t like he was stalking when he was in a lecture 10 minutes before hand.

SLAPP suits have been big in Tassie in the past. But usually it was Gunns or Forestry that paid the costs. (Forestry is a corporation even though it is propped by state funding.) NSW police bearing the costs of Barilaro’s pissedoffedness at being called out is the citizens forking out for it directly.

The police are going to get dinged but surely the public prosecutions office need a bit of a zap as well

dv said:

The police are going to get dinged but surely the public prosecutions office need a bit of a zap as well

Sure.

The Rudd and Jordies youtube yesterday was a bit of fun. I did like Rudd’s observation that Sydney’s layout and infrastructure shows signs of having been a direct result of the Rum rebellion and alcoholism in general. They discussed 10 dirty tricks that ScoMo may pull before the election. But then backtracked when they found they had listed two twice. Eight. We’ll call it ten anyway.

dv said:

What do you think he will do when he is no longer in politics?

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

What do you think he will do when he is no longer in politics?

I can’t see him making it as an inspirational speaker.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

What do you think he will do when he is no longer in politics?

Get a job with the Sharks.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

What do you think he will do when he is no longer in politics?

Find another job that he can get sacked from?

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

What do you think he will do when he is no longer in politics?

Get a job with the Sharks.

Feeding them?

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

What do you think he will do when he is no longer in politics?

Get a job with the Sharks.

Feeding them?

Cronulla Sharks NRL side.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

What do you think he will do when he is no longer in politics?

Move on to the next marketing job

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Get a job with the Sharks.

Feeding them?

Cronulla Sharks NRL side.

Sharts

dv said:

Ah yes, the fake news made up by a left wing comedian that the left are now running as fact.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Ah yes, the fake news made up by a left wing comedian that the left are now running as fact.

Wow dude it’s just a joke chill out

Hillsong franchisee rep.

South Aussie elections DV?

sarahs mum said:

Hillsong franchisee rep.

I mean I assume he is in a position to retire in comfort so maybe he should do that.

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Ah yes, the fake news made up by a left wing comedian that the left are now running as fact.

Wow dude it’s just a joke chill out

DMY…

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

What do you think he will do when he is no longer in politics?

sarahs mum said:

South Aussie elections DV?

Well none of the polling has been great for the Libs lately but it is still fairly close compared to the margin of error. Another hung parliament would not shock me.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/victorian-labor-senator-kimberley-kitching-dies/100900882

Witty Rejoinder said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/victorian-labor-senator-kimberley-kitching-dies/100900882

52. Poor lass.

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/victorian-labor-senator-kimberley-kitching-dies/100900882

52. Poor lass.

Same age as Warne, wonder if they’ll name a stand at the mcg after her…

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/victorian-labor-senator-kimberley-kitching-dies/100900882

52. Poor lass.

Terrible :(

Any 52 year-olds feeling a little worried this week?

Witty Rejoinder said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/victorian-labor-senator-kimberley-kitching-dies/100900882

Labor senator Kimberley Kitching used parliamentary privilege on Monday night to suggest to the head of ASIO – Australia’s counter-espionage agency – that the wealthy businessman behind the plot was Chinese-Australian property developer Chau Chak Wing.

3 weeks ago…

Link

Well that’s not much good, that’s no age to be dying.

I wonder whether they will bother to fill the casual vacancy given that there are only 3 and a half months left to run on senatorial terms.

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/victorian-labor-senator-kimberley-kitching-dies/100900882

52. Poor lass.

:(

Bogsnorkler said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/victorian-labor-senator-kimberley-kitching-dies/100900882

Labor senator Kimberley Kitching used parliamentary privilege on Monday night to suggest to the head of ASIO – Australia’s counter-espionage agency – that the wealthy businessman behind the plot was Chinese-Australian property developer Chau Chak Wing.

3 weeks ago…

Link

Wonder if by chance she had a Chinese meal before this suspected heart attack.

Bubblecar said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/victorian-labor-senator-kimberley-kitching-dies/100900882

Labor senator Kimberley Kitching used parliamentary privilege on Monday night to suggest to the head of ASIO – Australia’s counter-espionage agency – that the wealthy businessman behind the plot was Chinese-Australian property developer Chau Chak Wing.

3 weeks ago…

Link

Wonder if by chance she had a Chinese meal before this suspected heart attack.

Or a cup of polonium tea.

Bubblecar said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/victorian-labor-senator-kimberley-kitching-dies/100900882

Labor senator Kimberley Kitching used parliamentary privilege on Monday night to suggest to the head of ASIO – Australia’s counter-espionage agency – that the wealthy businessman behind the plot was Chinese-Australian property developer Chau Chak Wing.

3 weeks ago…

Link

Wonder if by chance she had a Chinese meal before this suspected heart attack.

A SUCCULENT CHINESE MEAL?

dv said:

Well that’s not much good, that’s no age to be dying.

I wonder whether they will bother to fill the casual vacancy given that there are only 3 and a half months left to run on senatorial terms.

Are there any more sitting days? And is there anything coming up that needs her seat to be filled?

Speedy said:

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/victorian-labor-senator-kimberley-kitching-dies/100900882

52. Poor lass.

Terrible :(

Any 52 year-olds feeling a little worried this week?

I’m way past that…

Michael V said:

Speedy said:

captain_spalding said:

52. Poor lass.

Terrible :(

Any 52 year-olds feeling a little worried this week?

I’m way past that…

A mate of mine died from a heart attack at 19.

dv said:

Well that’s not much good, that’s no age to be dying.

I wonder whether they will bother to fill the casual vacancy given that there are only 3 and a half months left to run on senatorial terms.

Was she half- or full-term?

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

Speedy said:

Terrible :(

Any 52 year-olds feeling a little worried this week?

I’m way past that…

A mate of mine died from a heart attack at 19.

My dad 44

Michael V said:

Speedy said:

captain_spalding said:

52. Poor lass.

Terrible :(

Any 52 year-olds feeling a little worried this week?

I’m way past that…

I was 53 when I died. Just really fucking lucky, I had about 20 minutes of warning before the big one and that was enough time for the ambos to already have me hooked up to an ecg when I decided to give up living. Of the bedd and on to the floor and pumping of the chest within a few seconds.

Michael V said:

dv said:

Well that’s not much good, that’s no age to be dying.

I wonder whether they will bother to fill the casual vacancy given that there are only 3 and a half months left to run on senatorial terms.

Was she half- or full-term?

Term and a half, she herself was a replacement for Conroy. Her term was due to expire this year.

dv said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

Well that’s not much good, that’s no age to be dying.

I wonder whether they will bother to fill the casual vacancy given that there are only 3 and a half months left to run on senatorial terms.

Was she half- or full-term?

Term and a half, she herself was a replacement for Conroy. Her term was due to expire this year.

Then unlikely to be replaced, I’d reckon.

without implying it is causally involved in this particular case

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01689-3

we suspect we’re going to be seeing a whole lot more of this kind of thing soon

Australia Asks: How Far Is Too Far in Making China a Campaign Weapon?
Australia’s conservative government has claimed, without evidence, that the political opposition would cozy up to Beijing. To many, it has crossed a red line.

By Yan Zhuang and Damien Cave
March 10, 2022, 5:00 a.m. ET

MELBOURNE, Australia — A group of middle-aged Chinese Australians logged onto Zoom to step, kick and punch through their regular exercise class one day late last month. Then they lingered online to despair at the government’s attempt to turn China into a campaign weapon.

After years of deteriorating relations between the two countries, the seven men and women in Melbourne were resigned to the fact that China would become a political wedge in the federal election due by May. But when Prime Minister Scott Morrison questioned the allegiance of a leader of the opposition Labor Party by accusing him of being a “Manchurian candidate,” that felt like a step too far.

“I was shocked and surprised that he would go so low,” said Anne Pang, 63, the class’s instructor, who runs the Barry Pang Kung Fu School with her husband and is a leader in the Chinese Australian community. “It was totally uncalled-for and totally un-Australian.”

The concern across Melbourne and the rest of Australia’s large Chinese diaspora reflects the intense emotions and risks associated with the Morrison government’s attempt to exploit rising fears of China.

For months, Australia’s governing conservative coalition has been trying to deflect from its domestic vulnerabilities by laying out a case for re-election that suggests its opponents will cozy up to a powerful and dangerous Chinese government.

Recent evidence says otherwise: Labor has been a partner in toughening foreign interference laws and joined the coalition in every recent standoff with China, over tariffs, detentions and human rights. The Labor leader, Anthony Albanese, has said his party would deal with Beijing “in a mature way” but would not significantly alter the government’s approach.

That has not stopped the coalition from issuing louder and more ominous claims about foreign threats and supposed domestic collusion as it has faced criticism over its handling of the Omicron outbreak and sexual harassment cases in Parliament.

It’s led to whisper campaigns against Labor candidates of Chinese descent in Sydney, along with intense disappointment among those who generally support the government’s desire to stand up to Beijing, but want Australia to dig deeper into the policy challenges that Xi Jinping’s China represents.

“It’s unhealthy and unhelpful,” said Wai Ling Yeung, a former head of Chinese studies at Curtin University in Perth who contributed to a new report about Chinese influence. “The kind of reflection we need to have is about how much have we in Australia made our economy reliant on China? How did we not diversify, and what are the lessons we could learn now from this experience?”

Mr. Morrison — often celebrated by American officials for his handling of Beijing — “has lost control of any prudent or rational dimension in his approach to China,” said James Curran, a history professor at the University of Sydney who is writing a book about Australia’s China debate.

“What’s going on here is a mark of sheer desperation,” he added. “He’s on the political back foot, and he’s looking for anything that will work.”

Mr. Morrison’s rush down what Mr. Curran called “the new Cold Warrior’s path” has mostly involved following the hawks within his own center-right and often divided Liberal Party. Peter Dutton, Australia’s defense minister and a rival of Mr. Morrison’s, has led the charge, warning that Chinese missiles could reach Australia, then declaring in Parliament in February that Chinese officials see Mr. Albanese, the Labor Party leader, “as their pick.”

Mr. Morrison, after previously resisting such language, seemed eager to outdo Mr. Dutton, tossing out the “Manchurian candidate” line, which he later retracted, only to repeat his claim (without evidence) that the Chinese government wants Labor to win.

In an isolated country with a history of xenophobia, the political gambit is built on a mix of tried-and-true scare tactics and cherry-picked facts.

The Australian authorities, in public statements and leaks, reported last month that China was behind a recent plot to influence the election. But the officials also said that the plot had been foiled before any politicians or parties knew about it, and that foreign interference efforts had targeted both parties in the past.

Mr. Morrison and his coalition are nonetheless seeking to make voters skeptical of Mr. Albanese, who has little international experience, and focus on their own efforts to counter China — including a partnership with Britain and the United States for nuclear submarines.

The Morrison-Dutton pitch arrives at a moment of deep unease, with Russia invading Ukraine after announcing a closer partnership with Beijing. (This week, the prime minister accused China of abetting the bloodshed through its “chilling silence.”) And it builds on polls showing that Australians’ distrust of China has increasingly blurred the line between the Chinese government and anyone with links to the country.

Australians in recent years have — often unfairly — blamed Chinese investors for rising property prices. And after Covid first spread from China, racist abuse against Asian Australians followed.

In Melbourne, the men and women from the kung fu group told of receiving cold stares from strangers. Others who hadn’t personally had negative experiences pointed to stories from friends and in the media. They worried that the government’s heated language could embolden those who are not interested in distinguishing between the Chinese Communist Party and anyone who looks Chinese.

In Sydney, too, Chinese Australians said they saw perceptions change, hurting their sense of belonging.

Sally Sitou, 39, a Labor candidate who is running for the federal Parliament, said that when Mr. Dutton and Mr. Morrison linked her party to Chinese Communists, her greatest fears about running for office had come to life.

She was heartbroken again when conservative media outlets started attacking Mr. Albanese with a video of him at an event in 2018 speaking a few words of Mandarin, a language she wishes she spoke better and wants her young son to respect and learn.

“It made me realize the depths to which they’re willing to go,” she said, “and how nasty this campaign is likely to get.”

Craig Chung, a former Sydney city councilor and Liberal Party member whose family moved to Australia from China in 1882, said it had been “a difficult couple of years” for Chinese Australians. What people often forget, he added, is that “there’s a difference between sticking it to the Chinese people and sticking it to the Chinese government.”

Mr. Dutton and Mr. Morrison have at times tried to make that distinction clear. About 5 percent of Australia’s population — 1.2 million people — claim Chinese heritage, and it’s a diverse group. It includes those who fled China after Tiananmen Square, others from Hong Kong, Taiwan or Vietnam, along with recent arrivals who came to Australia for college.

But as Australia has challenged China and it has responded with punishing tariffs on Australian products including coal and wine, that complexity has been ironed flat.

Jason Yat-sen Li, 50, a Labor candidate for the New South Wales state legislature, said his campaign saw the impact firsthand in his by-election victory last month. Volunteers for his Liberal Party opponent were overheard telling voters to question his loyalty to Australia even though he’d been born and educated in Sydney.

“It wasn’t overt. It was done quietly,” Mr. Li said. “They were picking who they thought would be receptive to that message, and they would whisper things like ‘If you vote for Jason, you might be voting for the Chinese government.’”

Criticism of the government’s tone extends beyond the political opposition.

Dennis Richardson, a retired intelligence official who led several federal departments, said in an interview that by falsely suggesting that Labor favored appeasement, the government had crossed a “red line.”

“China would like to see division, and it’s important that we not have that division,” he said.

Whether the effort will work at the polls, no one yet knows.

In the Melbourne kung fu group, some thought the situation might improve under a new government, but others worried that the ugly language could be dredged up again if either side needed help in the polls.

Ms. Pang recalled the hostility she experienced when her family migrated to Australia from Taiwan in 1970, an era when policies that had restricted nonwhite immigration for decades were ending. Australia has become much more multicultural since then, but recently, she said, it has started to feel as if it is slipping backward.

“I thought the times of the 1970s was gone in terms of racial discrimination,” she said. “But now I can see it quite vividly.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/10/world/australia/election-china.html?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/mar/10/passivity-and-blame-shifting-scott-morrison-brings-his-signature-crisis-skills-to-lismore

Link

we mean we’re still not voting for the arsehole but

Scott Morrison was late to his first public appearance in Lismore.

Very late.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-11/morrison-lismore-community-calls-for-action-on-flood-disaster/100900496

to be fair to the arsehole

the arsehole did allegedly have COVID-19, what did Lismore expect, they wanted some spread or something

Bogsnorkler said:

Love the second cartoon.

:)

Bogsnorkler said:

The novelist Gore Vidal was related to John F. Kennedy, and Vidal said that Kennedy had spoken to him about how, being President, you got to meet all of the big, top people in the world, leaders of nations, the ‘movers and shakers’, and how very many of them were, in Kennedy’s words, ‘second rate people’.

captain_spalding said:

Bogsnorkler said:

The novelist Gore Vidal was related to John F. Kennedy, and Vidal said that Kennedy had spoken to him about how, being President, you got to meet all of the big, top people in the world, leaders of nations, the ‘movers and shakers’, and how very many of them were, in Kennedy’s words, ‘second rate people’.

Next you’ll be saying ‘Celebrity Big Brother’ isn’t inspirational viewing.

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

Bogsnorkler said:

The novelist Gore Vidal was related to John F. Kennedy, and Vidal said that Kennedy had spoken to him about how, being President, you got to meet all of the big, top people in the world, leaders of nations, the ‘movers and shakers’, and how very many of them were, in Kennedy’s words, ‘second rate people’.

Next you’ll be saying ‘Celebrity Big Brother’ isn’t inspirational viewing.

who?

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

The novelist Gore Vidal was related to John F. Kennedy, and Vidal said that Kennedy had spoken to him about how, being President, you got to meet all of the big, top people in the world, leaders of nations, the ‘movers and shakers’, and how very many of them were, in Kennedy’s words, ‘second rate people’.

Next you’ll be saying ‘Celebrity Big Brother’ isn’t inspirational viewing.

who?

Things have got to the stage where having the label ‘celebrity’ attached to you is becoming something of an insult.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Next you’ll be saying ‘Celebrity Big Brother’ isn’t inspirational viewing.

who?

Things have got to the stage where having the label ‘celebrity’ attached to you is becoming something of an insult.

Never sought it. Probably more, departed whenever it was on offer.

All the cool kids are talking about State Capture – it’s everywhere and you don’t want it
First Dog on the Moon

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/11/all-the-cool-kids-are-talking-about-state-capture-its-everywhere-and-you-dont-want-it

sarahs mum said:

All the cool kids are talking about State Capture – it’s everywhere and you don’t want it
First Dog on the Moon

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/11/all-the-cool-kids-are-talking-about-state-capture-its-everywhere-and-you-dont-want-it

yeah saw the term last year and it was legit’

High-ranking former emergency services chiefs have attacked the Morrison government for “bungling” the flood disaster still affecting communities along the nation’s east coast.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-14/morrison-government-blasted-for-bungling-flood-disaster-bushfire/100907116

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/mar/14/here-to-get-things-done-daniel-andrews-prepares-for-battle-over-paid-sick-leave

Link

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-14/why-coal-is-an-each-way-bet-for-a-government-verrender-column/100907008

Link?

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-14/why-coal-is-an-each-way-bet-for-a-government-verrender-column/100907008

Link?

there is a link. no question about it.

friendlyjordies

Media Climate Lies Revealed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF_OkBwVcFY

Van Badham
15 hrs ·
Holy GOD, Scott Morrison’s own department of Prime Minister and Cabinet has made the logo for its “Women’s Network”…

… A GIANT COCK AND BALLS.

Literally here: https://www.pmc.gov.au/pmc/careers/graduate-careers/about

sarahs mum said:

Van Badham
15 hrs ·
Holy GOD, Scott Morrison’s own department of Prime Minister and Cabinet has made the logo for its “Women’s Network”…

… A GIANT COCK AND BALLS.

Literally here: https://www.pmc.gov.au/pmc/careers/graduate-careers/about

some people see tits.

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Van Badham
15 hrs ·
Holy GOD, Scott Morrison’s own department of Prime Minister and Cabinet has made the logo for its “Women’s Network”…

… A GIANT COCK AND BALLS.

Literally here: https://www.pmc.gov.au/pmc/careers/graduate-careers/about

some people see tits.

some people see a tampon.

In answer to my question, yes it does seem that Labor will fill the casual vacancy left by Kitching’s death, replacing her with someone associated with the AWU.

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Van Badham
15 hrs ·
Holy GOD, Scott Morrison’s own department of Prime Minister and Cabinet has made the logo for its “Women’s Network”…

… A GIANT COCK AND BALLS.

Literally here: https://www.pmc.gov.au/pmc/careers/graduate-careers/about

some people see tits.

some people see a tampon.

not a big arse then

Aunty Donna.

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

some people see tits.

some people see a tampon.

not a big arse then

I didn’t see the dicka nd balls until someone pointed it out to me, but I didn’t understand the logo.. like the stylised w sure, makes sense.. but the blob of colour that’s fading… I don’t see how that is a network.. it looks like they are saying that it’s a women scale of visible people to less visible people, which makes no sense,…

Spiny Norman said:

Aunty Donna.

That Hanson-Young.

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

Van Badham
15 hrs ·
Holy GOD, Scott Morrison’s own department of Prime Minister and Cabinet has made the logo for its “Women’s Network”…

… A GIANT COCK AND BALLS.

Literally here: https://www.pmc.gov.au/pmc/careers/graduate-careers/about

some people see tits.

some people see a tampon.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. I saw a W until deviant minds started attributing other meanings to it…

I think it was done DELIBERATLY BY MORRISON TO HUMILATE WOMEN.

Peak Warming Man said:

I think it was done DELIBERATLY BY MORRISON TO HUMILATE WOMEN.

‘sif, that’d assume the incompetent psycho could actually get something done.

poikilotherm said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I think it was done DELIBERATLY BY MORRISON TO HUMILATE WOMEN.

‘sif, that’d assume the incompetent psycho could actually get something done.

Surely being deliberately incompetent counts as passive aggressive so yes…

“NSW made three formal requests for the Australian Defence Force to help in flood-ravaged Lismore but was offered fewer than 300 on the same day the federal government said it had 2000 ready to go if requested”.

Must’ve gone to Hawaii again.

Arts said:

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

some people see a tampon.

not a big arse then

I didn’t see the dicka nd balls until someone pointed it out to me, but I didn’t understand the logo.. like the stylised w sure, makes sense.. but the blob of colour that’s fading… I don’t see how that is a network.. it looks like they are saying that it’s a women scale of visible people to less visible people, which makes no sense,…

if you go to the website the style fits with the other logos under the Employee diversity networks banner.

https://www.pmc.gov.au/pmc/careers/graduate-careers/about

Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

SCIENCE said:

not a big arse then

I didn’t see the dicka nd balls until someone pointed it out to me, but I didn’t understand the logo.. like the stylised w sure, makes sense.. but the blob of colour that’s fading… I don’t see how that is a network.. it looks like they are saying that it’s a women scale of visible people to less visible people, which makes no sense,…

if you go to the website the style fits with the other logos under the Employee diversity networks banner.

https://www.pmc.gov.au/pmc/careers/graduate-careers/about

The had to use a ‘W’?

They couldn’t have used this?

captain_spalding said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

I didn’t see the dicka nd balls until someone pointed it out to me, but I didn’t understand the logo.. like the stylised w sure, makes sense.. but the blob of colour that’s fading… I don’t see how that is a network.. it looks like they are saying that it’s a women scale of visible people to less visible people, which makes no sense,…

if you go to the website the style fits with the other logos under the Employee diversity networks banner.

https://www.pmc.gov.au/pmc/careers/graduate-careers/about

The had to use a ‘W’?

They couldn’t have used this?

we mean reading all that shit it really sounds like a load of fluff but what would we know

SCIENCE said:

we mean reading all that shit it really sounds like a load of fluff but what would we know

Oh, it’ll be a load of fluff, for sure. It’ll be like most government ‘initiatives’.

Someone will get nice office out of it, and a staff of some kind who will faff about achieving very little (mostly because there’s no clear goals), and the boss and the senior folks will get some nice trips, hotel accommodation, and travel allowance out of attending ‘conferences’ etc., and it’ll just eventually fade into the background and chunter away happily essentially doing nothing.

Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

I didn’t see the dicka nd balls until someone pointed it out to me, but I didn’t understand the logo.. like the stylised w sure, makes sense.. but the blob of colour that’s fading… I don’t see how that is a network.. it looks like they are saying that it’s a women scale of visible people to less visible people, which makes no sense,…

if you go to the website the style fits with the other logos under the Employee diversity networks banner.

https://www.pmc.gov.au/pmc/careers/graduate-careers/about

I don’t get it

Arts said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

I didn’t see the dicka nd balls until someone pointed it out to me, but I didn’t understand the logo.. like the stylised w sure, makes sense.. but the blob of colour that’s fading… I don’t see how that is a network.. it looks like they are saying that it’s a women scale of visible people to less visible people, which makes no sense,…

if you go to the website the style fits with the other logos under the Employee diversity networks banner.

https://www.pmc.gov.au/pmc/careers/graduate-careers/about

I don’t get it

it is just a style with no meaning.

Arts said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

I didn’t see the dicka nd balls until someone pointed it out to me, but I didn’t understand the logo.. like the stylised w sure, makes sense.. but the blob of colour that’s fading… I don’t see how that is a network.. it looks like they are saying that it’s a women scale of visible people to less visible people, which makes no sense,…

if you go to the website the style fits with the other logos under the Employee diversity networks banner.

https://www.pmc.gov.au/pmc/careers/graduate-careers/about

I don’t get it

They are all kind of lozenge or capsule shaped

dv said:

Arts said:

Bogsnorkler said:

if you go to the website the style fits with the other logos under the Employee diversity networks banner.

https://www.pmc.gov.au/pmc/careers/graduate-careers/about

I don’t get it

They are all kind of lozenge or capsule shaped

ok thanks, I could not see that on the link… it makes a bit more sense now, I guess

Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

Bogsnorkler said:

if you go to the website the style fits with the other logos under the Employee diversity networks banner.

https://www.pmc.gov.au/pmc/careers/graduate-careers/about

I don’t get it

it is just a style with no meaning.

that’s not how graphic design works

Arts said:

dv said:

Arts said:

I don’t get it

They are all kind of lozenge or capsule shaped

ok thanks, I could not see that on the link… it makes a bit more sense now, I guess

whadaya mean you couldn’t see it on the link? there’s a whole row of them along the bottom and each entry has the corresponding logo.

Arts said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

I don’t get it

it is just a style with no meaning.

that’s not how graphic design works

Sometimes it is. Turst me I’m a printer.

Arts said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

I don’t get it

it is just a style with no meaning.

that’s not how graphic design works

Do go on…

sibeen said:

Arts said:

Bogsnorkler said:

it is just a style with no meaning.

that’s not how graphic design works

Do go on…

don’t encourage her!!!

Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

dv said:

They are all kind of lozenge or capsule shaped

ok thanks, I could not see that on the link… it makes a bit more sense now, I guess

whadaya mean you couldn’t see it on the link? there’s a whole row of them along the bottom and each entry has the corresponding logo.

not on the link you gave me

Arts said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

ok thanks, I could not see that on the link… it makes a bit more sense now, I guess

whadaya mean you couldn’t see it on the link? there’s a whole row of them along the bottom and each entry has the corresponding logo.

not on the link you gave me

LOL, they have got rid of the logos by the look cos they were there before.

Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

Bogsnorkler said:

whadaya mean you couldn’t see it on the link? there’s a whole row of them along the bottom and each entry has the corresponding logo.

not on the link you gave me

LOL, they have got rid of the logos by the look cos they were there before.

yep got rid of them because I went to the link on van badham’s page, the same as I posted, and they are gone.

Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

not on the link you gave me

LOL, they have got rid of the logos by the look cos they were there before.

yep got rid of them because I went to the link on van badham’s page, the same as I posted, and they are gone.

I can confirm they were there when I looked earlier…

Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

not on the link you gave me

LOL, they have got rid of the logos by the look cos they were there before.

yep got rid of them because I went to the link on van badham’s page, the same as I posted, and they are gone.

Definitely gone.

I saw them there earlier, and they’re gone from that page now.

Someone’s gonna have some ‘splainin’ to do in the mornin’, Lucy!

furious said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

LOL, they have got rid of the logos by the look cos they were there before.

yep got rid of them because I went to the link on van badham’s page, the same as I posted, and they are gone.

I can confirm they were there when I looked earlier…

Are you mad?

Peak Warming Man said:

furious said:

Bogsnorkler said:

yep got rid of them because I went to the link on van badham’s page, the same as I posted, and they are gone.

I can confirm they were there when I looked earlier…

Are you mad?

He’s furious!

Bogsnorkler said:

Peak Warming Man said:

furious said:

I can confirm they were there when I looked earlier…

Are you mad?

He’s furious!

No, i’m Spartacus furious~

at least you all understand my confusion now…

Arts said:

at least you all understand my confusion now…

That particular part, yes.

Just up on 9gag, this minute

I think we can all agree that Morrison is an absolute bastard for what he has done here.
Shame Shame Shame Mr Morrison
etc etc etc……………….you know how it goes.

captain_spalding said:

Just up on 9gag, this minute

A crossed out circle?

Arts said:

at least you all understand my confusion now…

No. I only just got here!

captain_spalding said:

Just up on 9gag, this minute

I wonder if these people consider themselves intellectuals?

Arts said:

at least you all understand my confusion now…

I just put it down to daydrinking

dv said:

Arts said:

at least you all understand my confusion now…

I just put it down to daydrinking

or lack thereof

Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Arts said:

not on the link you gave me

LOL, they have got rid of the logos by the look cos they were there before.

yep got rid of them because I went to the link on van badham’s page, the same as I posted, and they are gone.

They were there earlier when I took the link someone put here.

SBS news says (as previously reported here), that someone in the office designed it.

“Despite a substantial list of questions from SBS News on the response to the logo, the Department of PM&C stated simply that the logo was designed internally.

“No external providers were engaged for this work,” the statement read.”

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/insulting-out-of-touch-australians-lambast-phallic-new-womens-network-logo/d1zbigg2j

Peak Warming Man said:

I think we can all agree that Morrison is an absolute bastard for what he has done here.
Shame Shame Shame Mr Morrison
etc etc etc……………….you know how it goes.

I problem with Morrison is that he hasn’t downloaded any updates for his brain…

There’s a security update to stop leaks.

Updates to fix policies that are wrong.

An update to stop constant crashes.

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Just up on 9gag, this minute

I wonder if these people consider themselves intellectuals?

If by ‘these people’ you mean the ‘leadership team’ of Morrison, Joyce, Dutton etc:

no, i doubt that they do.

If you mean people who simply point out particularly stupid marketing/branding fail (another one on Morrison’s watch):

no, doubt that they do.

If pensioners are getting a ten buck a week increase due to inflation…it must mean we have inflation.

sarahs mum said:

If pensioners are getting a ten buck a week increase due to inflation…it must mean we have inflation.

Or an impending election. Or both.

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Just up on 9gag, this minute

I wonder if these people consider themselves intellectuals?

If by ‘these people’ you mean the ‘leadership team’ of Morrison, Joyce, Dutton etc:

no, i doubt that they do.

If you mean people who simply point out particularly stupid marketing/branding fail (another one on Morrison’s watch):

no, doubt that they do.

They must have spent a lot of time working on that logo.

Were they all drawing pictures of boobs and dicks and then someone mixed up the dicks with the boobs.?

sarahs mum said:

If pensioners are getting a ten buck a week increase due to inflation…it must mean we have inflation.

normal situation, it is always, nearly, there.

sarahs mum said:

If pensioners are getting a ten buck a week increase due to inflation…it must mean we have inflation.

For real?

Nothing on Justin that I’ve seen.

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

If pensioners are getting a ten buck a week increase due to inflation…it must mean we have inflation.

For real?

Nothing on Justin that I’ve seen.

https://thewest.com.au/news/cash-boost-for-5-million-aussies-amid-rising-living-costs-c-6045568
Cash boost for five million Australians amid rising living costs

Which is a pretty exciting headline for a 2% increase.

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

If pensioners are getting a ten buck a week increase due to inflation…it must mean we have inflation.

For real?

Nothing on Justin that I’ve seen.

just had a look at my payments history. i’ll get $14 and a bit extra at the end of the month.

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

If pensioners are getting a ten buck a week increase due to inflation…it must mean we have inflation.

For real?

Nothing on Justin that I’ve seen.

huge according to the dail mail,

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10608793/Centrelink-payments-rise-millions-Australians.html

dv said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

If pensioners are getting a ten buck a week increase due to inflation…it must mean we have inflation.

For real?

Nothing on Justin that I’ve seen.

https://thewest.com.au/news/cash-boost-for-5-million-aussies-amid-rising-living-costs-c-6045568
Cash boost for five million Australians amid rising living costs

Which is a pretty exciting headline for a 2% increase.

next pay, 17th

Payment Details

Age Pension $882.20
Pension Supplement $71.20
Energy Supplement $14.10
Gross payment amount $967.50
Net payment amount $967.50

one after that 31st.

Age Pension $895.49
Pension Supplement $72.27
Energy Supplement $14.10
Gross payment amount $981.86
Net payment amount $981.86

dv said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

If pensioners are getting a ten buck a week increase due to inflation…it must mean we have inflation.

For real?

Nothing on Justin that I’ve seen.

https://thewest.com.au/news/cash-boost-for-5-million-aussies-amid-rising-living-costs-c-6045568
Cash boost for five million Australians amid rising living costs

Which is a pretty exciting headline for a 2% increase.

Cool. $10 a week.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/03/10/scott-morrison-toxic-waste-for-desperate-government/

Link

https://theaimn.com/the-morrison-government-is-our-greatest-threat-to-national-security/

Link

captain_spalding said:

Bogsnorkler said:

https://theaimn.com/the-morrison-government-is-our-greatest-threat-to-national-security/

Link

Betoota Advocate:

‘Government Apologises For Controversial Women’s Network Logo, Vows To Add Bulging Cock Veins’

well from Bogsnorkler link

When it comes to Putin and the Ukraine, the difference in rhetoric from Scott Morrison about how, no matter how small we are, we must join together to stand up to the bullies, and his assertion that our emissions are too small to matter, is stark. In both areas, we speak loudly but carry a tiny little stick.

Communists Sabotage Rail Services In New South Wuhan

Measures set to be taken by union members would be similar to the ones the government blamed for making the network “unsafe” to run on February 21, he said.

The union has denied this and Mr Claassens said Premier Dominic Perrottet and the government needed to “own up” for disrespecting workers and commuters.

“We’re now calling on the government to give everybody a fare free day, every Friday, until June,” he said.

“And if they don’t do that we’re going to take industrial action that will force them to.

“We’re going to put on a range of measures, and as soon as the government announces a fair free day on Friday we’re gonna withdraw that.”

He said the move would also breathe life into Sydney’s struggling CBD and expected the government was “going to suggest it anyway”.

Legal Child Sacrifice Extends From COVID-19 Atrocities To Environmental Vandalism

Federal Environment Minister Sussan Ley has successfully argued she does not have a duty of care to protect young people from climate change when assessing fossil fuel projects.

The ruling of the full bench of the Federal Court today overturned an earlier win by a group of eight children, who brought a class action on behalf of all Australian children that temporarily established the new common-law duty of care.

Experts say the children are likely to appeal against the decision in the High Court, but in the meantime, the ruling removes the duty of care that was established by Justice Mordecai Bromberg.

SCIENCE said:

Legal Child Sacrifice Extends From COVID-19 Atrocities To Environmental Vandalism

Federal Environment Minister Sussan Ley has successfully argued she does not have a duty of care to protect young people from climate change when assessing fossil fuel projects.

The ruling of the full bench of the Federal Court today overturned an earlier win by a group of eight children, who brought a class action on behalf of all Australian children that temporarily established the new common-law duty of care.

Experts say the children are likely to appeal against the decision in the High Court, but in the meantime, the ruling removes the duty of care that was established by Justice Mordecai Bromberg.

It seems the law moves in mysterious ways.

But fossil fuel projects need to be designed, and it is a requirement of federal law that all risks must be removed or reduced in design “so far as is reasonably practicable”.

So I don’t know why Ms Ley would be absolved of that risk.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

Legal Child Sacrifice Extends From COVID-19 Atrocities To Environmental Vandalism

Federal Environment Minister Sussan Ley has successfully argued she does not have a duty of care to protect young people from climate change when assessing fossil fuel projects.

The ruling of the full bench of the Federal Court today overturned an earlier win by a group of eight children, who brought a class action on behalf of all Australian children that temporarily established the new common-law duty of care.

Experts say the children are likely to appeal against the decision in the High Court, but in the meantime, the ruling removes the duty of care that was established by Justice Mordecai Bromberg.

It seems the law moves in mysterious ways.

But fossil fuel projects need to be designed, and it is a requirement of federal law that all risks must be removed or reduced in design “so far as is reasonably practicable”.

So I don’t know why Ms Ley would be absolved of that risk.

probably a technicality just like how they agreed that ministers have the power to put the boot to Novax Djocovid regardless of the merits of the boot which were not considered; they may be required to reduce risks but not implying a duty of care of a minister to future children