We don’t seem to have a current COVID thread running.
Israel seems to be coming down the other side of their most recent peaks.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
I think the people have lost interest, it’s all about the war now.
Peak Warming Man said:
I think the people have lost interest, it’s all about the war now.
And the floods.
Then again, WA is just starting their journey.
Peak Warming Man said:
I think the people have lost interest, it’s all about the war now.
World deaths, 7 day smoothed, over the whole history, from 1 Mar 2020.
The White Russian Baltic States are getting really hammered by Covid right now.
Hungary still near the top.
The startling rise in covid deaths for Hong Kong is worryingly close to China.
Not displayed on this chart are the really high death rates in the Faeroe Islands and Greenland (North Atlantic), Dominica (Caribbean)
Russia hard hit by Covid.
I don’t think were getting reliable Covid statistics from Estonia.
Covid mask pollution.
I’ll start with this old news from 10 Dec 2021. https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-12-10/covid-face-mask-pollution-has-jumped-by-nearly-9000-per-cent/100685986
Global face mask pollution. experience in the UK has shown that mask mandates can lead to an explosion of a new form of plastic litter that can last generations. And Australia is on notice to avoid a looming environmental disaster.
There was a nearly 9,000 per cent jump in global face mask litter last year, with mask mandates the main driver The data was amassed by citizens recording what litter they collected The UK was the worst offender, but researchers warn Australia faces the same problem“Disposable face masks can take hundreds of years to break down and threaten to entangle wildlife, litter our beaches, block sewers, and pollute the food chain.”
In the face of alarming pollution anecdotes, researchers have provided hard evidence of the massive global growth of this new form of litter.
Now the current news. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-17/clean-up-australia-launches-citizen-science-face-mask-drive/100839120
Clean Up Australia is tackling the scourge of face mask pollution through citizen science.
Concerns about disposable masks littering the environment and creating hazards for marine life and birds has promoted Clean Up Australia (CUA) to launch a citizen science project.
Key points:
Clean Up Australia has launched a program to help gauge how many face masks are in the environment Face masks discarded into the environment typically end up in waterways and pose a risk to birds and marine life People are being encouraged to snip the rubber straps of face masks before they discard themAs part of its popular Clean Up Australia Day on March 6, the organisation’s volunteers will be asked to count all masks removed from streets, beaches, walking trails, parks and reserves across the country where they have become a common sight during the COVID pandemic.
mollwollfumble said:
Covid mask pollution.I’ll start with this old news from 10 Dec 2021. https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-12-10/covid-face-mask-pollution-has-jumped-by-nearly-9000-per-cent/100685986
Global face mask pollution. experience in the UK has shown that mask mandates can lead to an explosion of a new form of plastic litter that can last generations. And Australia is on notice to avoid a looming environmental disaster.
There was a nearly 9,000 per cent jump in global face mask litter last year, with mask mandates the main driver The data was amassed by citizens recording what litter they collected The UK was the worst offender, but researchers warn Australia faces the same problem“Disposable face masks can take hundreds of years to break down and threaten to entangle wildlife, litter our beaches, block sewers, and pollute the food chain.”
In the face of alarming pollution anecdotes, researchers have provided hard evidence of the massive global growth of this new form of litter.
Now the current news. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-17/clean-up-australia-launches-citizen-science-face-mask-drive/100839120
Clean Up Australia is tackling the scourge of face mask pollution through citizen science.
Concerns about disposable masks littering the environment and creating hazards for marine life and birds has promoted Clean Up Australia (CUA) to launch a citizen science project.
Key points:
Clean Up Australia has launched a program to help gauge how many face masks are in the environment Face masks discarded into the environment typically end up in waterways and pose a risk to birds and marine life People are being encouraged to snip the rubber straps of face masks before they discard themAs part of its popular Clean Up Australia Day on March 6, the organisation’s volunteers will be asked to count all masks removed from streets, beaches, walking trails, parks and reserves across the country where they have become a common sight during the COVID pandemic.
Ive noticed a lot of discarded masks on the ground around supermarket car parks and hospitals.
Tau.Neutrino said:
I’ve noticed a lot of discarded masks on the ground around supermarket car parks and hospitals.
Ditto. This will be the first time that they’ve been counted officially in Australia.
The origin of covid-19
More evidence that covid-19 started in a market, not a laboratory
Two new papers make the case robustly
Mar 5th 2022
Two new papers provide more robust answers than heretofore available to three of the outstanding questions of the covid-19 pandemic: how, when and where sars-cov-2, the virus that caused it, first appeared in human beings. These papers, so-called preprints (meaning they have not yet gone through the formal process of peer review that precedes publication in a journal) were written by related teams of researchers from institutions around the world and posted to Zenodo, a repository for such documents. They conclude that, by November 2019, the virus was present in animals on sale at the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan (pictured), whence it jumped to human hosts on two separate occasions a week or so apart.
One paper, the lead authors of which are Michael Worobey at the University of Arizona and Kristian Andersen of Scripps Research, in San Diego, attempts to trace the first infections definitively to the Huanan market. The authors used three approaches. First, by looking at the geographic distribution of early infections, they found that the market is in the region where the first covid-19 cases were most densely packed—a result that remains unchanged even when cases with no known link to the market are plotted. Second, they employed photographic evidence posted on Weibo, a Chinese social-media website, as well as contemporary accounts, to show that the market, which vends other goods besides seafood, was selling animals susceptible to the virus (a list that includes porcupines, marmots and raccoon dogs) prior to December 2019.
Third, they analysed the distribution of almost 600 environmental samples taken from the market by the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention (ccdc) in January 2020, after it had been shut down by the authorities. Combining this analysis with a recreation of the market layout, the authors showed that samples containing the virus were associated with stalls selling live animals, particularly in the market’s south-western corner.
The second paper, the lead author of which was Jonathan Pekar of the University of California, San Diego, examines the evolution of the virus in its earliest days in humans. At this time two forms, known as lineages a and b, predominated. These differ in the nature of two particular nucleotide loci (links in the rna chain that constitutes the virus’s genome), with lineage a having a structure identical to similar viruses found in bats.
This suggests that lineage a was the original form and lineage b a subsequent mutation. However, the first known human cases involved lineage b. To resolve this conundrum, the researchers analysed nearly 800 almost-complete viral genomes from samples taken before February 14th 2020, to identify the most likely evolutionary paths taken by the virus.
This analysis showed that, while both lineages were present in cases in the vicinity of the market, no samples contained either any transitional form or any shared common ancestor. It therefore seems likely that the lineages made independent leaps into human hosts: lineage b on or around November 25th 2019, and lineage a a week or so later. Such multiple jumps from animals are common in coronaviruses. The viruses responsible for both the sars outbreak in 2002 and mers (Middle East respiratory syndrome), which appeared in 2012, are also thought to have started with multiple spillover events.
Doubling down on an explanation
All that the researchers felt they needed to make their case watertight was evidence of lineage a at the market. When they started work, all samples from there had contained only lineage b. This changed shortly before their papers went online, because of a detail buried in an unrelated preprint from a team at the ccdc. In a reanalysis of samples, this group discovered the first market-linked evidence of lineage a—on a discarded glove. “This really seals the deal,” says Dr Worobey. “Beyond all reasonable doubt we now know what happened.”
Though the papers are preprints, their analysis has been praised by numerous independent researchers. Assuming they are indeed correct, rival hypotheses have a steep hill to climb. The most popular of these, as well as the most contentious, is that the virus escaped from a laboratory in Wuhan before triggering a “superspreader” event at the market. The existence of two separate lineages at Huanan, says Dr Worobey, as well as the market’s central location in the density map of cases, suggests that such a lab leak would have had to have happened twice, while leaving no evidence yet discovered of the laboratory’s involvement on either occasion. That seems unlikely. Which animal species were responsible, though, remains to be determined.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/more-evidence-that-covid-19-started-in-a-market-not-a-laboratory/21807945?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-04/tas-covid-masks-new-rules/100881994
SCIENCE said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
sibeen said:
Really?
Heart Attack.
worn out
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Heart Attack.
worn out
Flock Immunity Achieved
Siden starten af november har omkring 59% af de voksne danskere mellem 17 og 72 år har været smittet med covid-19.
I tredje runde, der dækker uge 7, testede man blod fra i alt 5.310 donorer. De fik tappet blod fra den 14.-20. februar. ”Andelen med antistoffer fra covid-19 infektion er steget 15 procentpoint siden den forrige runde i uge 5. Det er langt mere end mellem første runde i uge 3 og anden runde. Her steg andelen kun 6,7 procentpoint.” ”Undersøgelsen viser også, at de regionale forskelle nu er langt mindre og stort set udlignet, siden man begyndte overvågningen. Det afspejler at der har været meget smitte i hele landet”, siger professor Christian Erikstrup fra Aarhus Universitetshospital.
need someone smarter to explain this to us
and then
more, less, what
Ornaments, plants and a wireless for the essential war reports.
September 1941. “In the living room of farm family, members of Boundary Farms FSA project. Boundary County, Idaho.” Photo by Russell Lee, Farm Security Administration.
Denmark seems to be still in a dying peak.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/denmark/
Finland
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/finland/
Sweden appears to be over the hump.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/
It’s a Winter thing, isn’t it.
And Israel is coming out the other side of their big peak.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
And here is us.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/
so influenza or no
SCIENCE said:
so influenza or no
What?
I’ll probably leave my ‘flu vaccination for a month or two, if that’s what you’re asking. April-May, I reckon.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
so influenza or no
What?
I’ll probably leave my ‘flu vaccination for a month or two, if that’s what you’re asking. April-May, I reckon.
oh we’re just wondering if all these deaths are good enough to call it a mild ‘flu’ like everyone promised us all 2020 2021 et cetera
getting the shot seems reasonable though also seems like anything good enough to hold off SARS-CoV-2 will pretty much make influenza extinct really
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
so influenza or no
What?
I’ll probably leave my ‘flu vaccination for a month or two, if that’s what you’re asking. April-May, I reckon.
oh we’re just wondering if all these deaths are good enough to call it a mild ‘flu’ like everyone promised us all 2020 2021 et cetera
getting the shot seems reasonable though also seems like anything good enough to hold off SARS-CoV-2 will pretty much make influenza extinct really
Well, COVID still seems to be killing 30-50 people a day in Australia. I guess that is around twice the rate of influenza.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:What?
I’ll probably leave my ‘flu vaccination for a month or two, if that’s what you’re asking. April-May, I reckon.
oh we’re just wondering if all these deaths are good enough to call it a mild ‘flu’ like everyone promised us all 2020 2021 et cetera
getting the shot seems reasonable though also seems like anything good enough to hold off SARS-CoV-2 will pretty much make influenza extinct really
Well, COVID still seems to be killing 30-50 people a day in Australia. I guess that is around twice the rate of influenza.
I’m not sure the fluvax is out yet?
buffy said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:oh we’re just wondering if all these deaths are good enough to call it a mild ‘flu’ like everyone promised us all 2020 2021 et cetera
getting the shot seems reasonable though also seems like anything good enough to hold off SARS-CoV-2 will pretty much make influenza extinct really
Well, COVID still seems to be killing 30-50 people a day in Australia. I guess that is around twice the rate of influenza.
I’m not sure the fluvax is out yet?
Not as far as I am aware. Usually late March to early April, IIRC.
buffy said:
Denmark seems to be still in a dying peak.https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/denmark/
Finland
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/finland/
Sweden appears to be over the hump.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/
It’s a Winter thing, isn’t it.
And Israel is coming out the other side of their big peak.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
And here is us.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/
Screenshots from buffy’s post Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Israel, Aus.
Peru (total Covid death toll 211,000)
Hungary (total Covid death toll 44,000)
Latvia – daily deaths still rising
Russia – daily deaths still rising
Hong Kong – explosion in daily deaths
SCIENCE said:
Flock Immunity Achieved
Siden starten af november har omkring 59% af de voksne danskere mellem 17 og 72 år har været smittet med covid-19.
I tredje runde, der dækker uge 7, testede man blod fra i alt 5.310 donorer. De fik tappet blod fra den 14.-20. februar. ”Andelen med antistoffer fra covid-19 infektion er steget 15 procentpoint siden den forrige runde i uge 5. Det er langt mere end mellem første runde i uge 3 og anden runde. Her steg andelen kun 6,7 procentpoint.” ”Undersøgelsen viser også, at de regionale forskelle nu er langt mindre og stort set udlignet, siden man begyndte overvågningen. Det afspejler at der har været meget smitte i hele landet”, siger professor Christian Erikstrup fra Aarhus Universitetshospital.
we apologise for naively raising even the whisper of flock
oh they laugh sorry we mean as Spiny Norman said
bunch of arrogant pricks
A Case of Axial Spondyloarthritis Triggered by SARS-CoV-2 Infection
Ever since the outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), there has been a noticeable change in atypical presentations of several rheumatological diseases following COVID-19 infections. In this case report, we present a case of SARS-CoV-2-induced axial and peripheral spondyloarthritis. This case highlights the possibility of SARS-CoV-2 infection accelerating the onset of autoimmune diseases such as axial spondyloarthritis. Although uncommon, these cases warrant a referral to the rheumatologist for appropriate diagnosis and management. This case also highlights the need for further research on the mechanisms behind the viral interaction of SARS-CoV-2 infections with the host immune system, especially about accelerating the onset of autoimmune diseases.
https://www.cureus.com/articles/85668-a-case-of-axial-spondyloarthritis-triggered-by-sars-cov-2-infection
fsm said:
A Case of Axial Spondyloarthritis Triggered by SARS-CoV-2 InfectionEver since the outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), there has been a noticeable change in atypical presentations of several rheumatological diseases following COVID-19 infections. In this case report, we present a case of SARS-CoV-2-induced axial and peripheral spondyloarthritis. This case highlights the possibility of SARS-CoV-2 infection accelerating the onset of autoimmune diseases such as axial spondyloarthritis. Although uncommon, these cases warrant a referral to the rheumatologist for appropriate diagnosis and management. This case also highlights the need for further research on the mechanisms behind the viral interaction of SARS-CoV-2 infections with the host immune system, especially about accelerating the onset of autoimmune diseases.
https://www.cureus.com/articles/85668-a-case-of-axial-spondyloarthritis-triggered-by-sars-cov-2-infection
I’d never heard of cureus.
https://www.wired.com/story/a-new-way-for-doctors-to-share-their-medical-mysteries/
Likelihood of infecting or getting infected with COVID-19 as a function of vaccination status, as investigated with a stochastic model for New Zealand (Aotearoa) for Delta and Omicron variants
For the Delta variant a vaccinated traveler infected with COVID-19 is 9x less likely to seed an outbreak than an unvaccinated traveler infected with COVID-19, however, for the Omicron variant there is little difference between outbreaks seeded by unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals (boosted individuals are slightly less likely to seed large outbreaks). For the Delta variant unvaccinated individuals are responsible for 87% of all infections whereas only 3% of infections are from vaccinated to vaccinated when normalized by population. Therefore, a vaccinated individual is 6.8x more likely to be infected by an unvaccinated individual than by a vaccinated individual. For the Omicron variant unvaccinated individuals are responsible for 45% of all infections compared to 39% for vaccinated (two-doses) and 15% for boosted (three-doses) individuals when normalized by population. Despite the vaccine being less effective at preventing breakthrough transmission for Omicron, only 3% of all infections are from boosted to boosted individuals when normalized by population indicating that three doses of the vaccine provide good protection from infection and breakthrough transmission.
This work demonstrates that most new infections are caused by unvaccinated individuals, especially for the Delta variant. These simulations illustrate the importance of vaccination in stopping individuals from becoming infected with COVID-19 and in preventing onward transmission. For Omicron, individuals vaccinated with two doses are only slightly less likely to spread COVID-19 than those who are unvaccinated. This work suggests that for the current Omicron outbreak the COVID-19 Protection Framework should potentially be updated to distinguish between those who have received two primary doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine (vaccinated individuals) and those who have received three doses (boosted individuals).
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.28.21266967v2
fsm said:
Likelihood of infecting or getting infected with COVID-19 as a function of vaccination status, as investigated with a stochastic model for New Zealand (Aotearoa) for Delta and Omicron variantsFor the Delta variant a vaccinated traveler infected with COVID-19 is 9x less likely to seed an outbreak than an unvaccinated traveler infected with COVID-19, however, for the Omicron variant there is little difference between outbreaks seeded by unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals (boosted individuals are slightly less likely to seed large outbreaks). For the Delta variant unvaccinated individuals are responsible for 87% of all infections whereas only 3% of infections are from vaccinated to vaccinated when normalized by population. Therefore, a vaccinated individual is 6.8x more likely to be infected by an unvaccinated individual than by a vaccinated individual. For the Omicron variant unvaccinated individuals are responsible for 45% of all infections compared to 39% for vaccinated (two-doses) and 15% for boosted (three-doses) individuals when normalized by population. Despite the vaccine being less effective at preventing breakthrough transmission for Omicron, only 3% of all infections are from boosted to boosted individuals when normalized by population indicating that three doses of the vaccine provide good protection from infection and breakthrough transmission.
This work demonstrates that most new infections are caused by unvaccinated individuals, especially for the Delta variant. These simulations illustrate the importance of vaccination in stopping individuals from becoming infected with COVID-19 and in preventing onward transmission. For Omicron, individuals vaccinated with two doses are only slightly less likely to spread COVID-19 than those who are unvaccinated. This work suggests that for the current Omicron outbreak the COVID-19 Protection Framework should potentially be updated to distinguish between those who have received two primary doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine (vaccinated individuals) and those who have received three doses (boosted individuals).
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.28.21266967v2
Ta.
https://time.com/6153809/covid-19-psychosis-symptoms/
There’s growing evidence that COVID-19 and new psychotic episodes are connected. The North Carolina case, reported in the British Medical Journal in August 2020, joins a slew of case reports published in medical journals during the pandemic that detail psychotic episodes following a COVID-19 diagnosis. In the July 2020 issue of BJPsyh Open, researchers reported that a 55-year old woman in the U.K., with no history of mental illness, arrived at a hospital days after recovering from a severe case of COVID-19 with delusions and hallucinations, convinced that the nurses were devils in disguise and that monkeys were jumping out of the doctors’ medical bags. In April 2021, other researchers wrote in BMJ Case Reports of a middle-aged British man, also with no prior mental health disorders, who had appeared at a London hospital experiencing auditory and visual hallucinations and banging his head against walls until he bruised his skin. (Weeks before, he had recovered from a bout with COVID-19 that had landed him in the intensive care unit.) In yet another case, published in the Journal of Psychiatric Practice in March 2021, a 57-year-old-man turned up at Columbia University’s New York Presbyterian Hospital insisting that his wife was poisoning him, that cameras had been planted throughout his apartment, and that the patients in the hospital’s emergency department were being secretly murdered.
we mean they probably should be asking how and not why, but sure, seems an interesting read
not really much point
More than a third of working-age people in the UK now suffer from a long-term illness, with new figures showing a dramatic rise since the pandemic began. Post-Covid conditions, including long Covid, breathing difficulties and mental-health problems, are among the causes, according to disability charities and health campaigners.
nice, make that Economy Must Grow by increasing healthcare costs, it’s one way
SCIENCE said:
More than a third of working-age people in the UK now suffer from a long-term illness, with new figures showing a dramatic rise since the pandemic began. Post-Covid conditions, including long Covid, breathing difficulties and mental-health problems, are among the causes, according to disability charities and health campaigners.
nice, make that Economy Must Grow by increasing healthcare costs, it’s one way
awesome shit
apparently BA.2 is 1 order of magnitude in the B.1.617.2 direction from B.1.1.529 as in
the viral load is 10 times greater, whereas the “scary” one from 2021 was 1000 times more
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.02.22271771v1
we notice it’s also less mild worse, pretty bad, so we suppose if it increased that additional 100 times, it might be even worse
fun for all
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronavirus/2022/03/06/australia-total-covid-numbers/
JudgeMental said:
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronavirus/2022/03/06/australia-total-covid-numbers/
is this good or bad news
don’t say we never give you good news
mRNA-1189 is being developed to prevent EBV-induced IM and potentially EBV infection. Similar to Moderna’s cytomegalovirus (CMV) vaccine candidate (mRNA-1647), mRNA-1189 contains four mRNAs that encode EBV envelope glycoproteins (gH, gL, gp42, gp220), which mediate viral entry into B cells and epithelial surface cells, the major targets of EBV infection. Currently, there is no approved vaccine for EBV or IM. Potential future indications may be the prevention of EBV reactivation in other types of conditions such as post-transplant lymphoproliferative disease.
The Phase I randomised, observer-blind, placebo-controlled study of mRNA-1189 (NCT05164094) will be conducted at approximately 15 sites in the US. The primary purpose of the Phase I study is to assess the safety and tolerability of mRNA-1189 in healthy adults aged 18 to 30 years. Moderna expects to enrol approximately 270 participants.
Genetic study reveals causal link between blood type and COVID severity
Very early in the pandemic doctors began tracking the association between COVID-19 disease severity and a patient’s blood type. Now researchers have validated those early observations, finding several blood proteins are causally linked to an increased risk of hospitalization and death from COVID-19.
Some of the earliest observational studies to come out of Wuhan in 2020 pointed to a correlation between a person’s blood type and their risk of serious illness from a SARS-CoV-2 infection. The general observation was that those with type A blood seemed to be at a much higher risk of hospitalization and death compared to those with type O blood.
More:
https://newatlas.com/health-wellbeing/causal-link-blood-type-covid19-severity-genetic-study/
speaking of vaccines and stopping transmission
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/07/never-caught-covid-immune-systems-vaccines
Why have some people never caught Covid? The answers could help protect us all
I’m a Covid researcher, but I’ve never tested positive. Studying variations in immune systems could lead to better vaccines
right but more importantly
maybe we could study variations in mask sorry we mean P2~FFP2~N95~KN95~KF94~+ use, and it could lead to better pandemic management overall
didn’t see “mask” in that article at all now did we
Kingy said:
mollwollfumble said:
The vaccines haven’t stopped Covid cases.
Vaccines 90% effective against transmission:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8287551/Vaccines 50% effective with Delta:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00690-3/fulltextVaccines 90% effective against transmission:
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/01/covid-vaccine-markedly-cuts-household-transmission-studies-showVaccines around 40% effective against Delta transmission:
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-11-vaccines-covid-transmission.htmlHydroxychloroquine worse than placebo:
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/chloroquine-or-hydroxychloroquine-and-or-azithromycin/“These remdesivir, hydroxychloroquine, lopinavir, and interferon regimens had little or no effect on hospitalized patients with Covid-19, as indicated by overall mortality, initiation of ventilation, and duration of hospital stay. (Funded by the World Health Organization; ISRCTN Registry number, ISRCTN83971151. opens in new tab; ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT04315948. opens in new tab.)”
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2023184
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200619-covid-19-sitrep-151.pdf
Effect of vaccine on transmission
Let’s start by doing a peer review of these four articles.
Vaccines 90% effective against transmission:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8287551/
Vaccines 50% effective with Delta:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00690-3/fulltext
Vaccines 90% effective against transmission:
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/01/covid-vaccine-markedly-cuts-household-transmission-studies-show
Vaccines around 40% effective against Delta transmission:
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-11-vaccines-covid-transmission.html
There are about a hundred different ways that a research article can be biased to give misleading results. In evaluating these four I’m just going to check five.
(To be continued).
Hadn’t looked at Worldometer for a bit.
I see that:
World deaths have now passed 6 million
USA is getting close to 1 million deaths
UK became mysteriously silent about a week ago.
Australian cases have flattened out. Too early to say if they are about to rise again.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Hadn’t looked at Worldometer for a bit.
I see that:
World deaths have now passed 6 million
USA is getting close to 1 million deaths
UK became mysteriously silent about a week ago.
Australian cases have flattened out. Too early to say if they are about to rise again.
surprised since most places aren’t even testing much
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Hadn’t looked at Worldometer for a bit.
I see that:
World deaths have now passed 6 million
USA is getting close to 1 million deaths
UK became mysteriously silent about a week ago.
Australian cases have flattened out. Too early to say if they are about to rise again.
surprised since most places aren’t even testing much
what??? they aren’t testing for death!!!
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:The Rev Dodgson said:
Hadn’t looked at Worldometer for a bit.
I see that:
World deaths have now passed 6 million
USA is getting close to 1 million deaths
UK became mysteriously silent about a week ago.
Australian cases have flattened out. Too early to say if they are about to rise again.
surprised since most places aren’t even testing much
what??? they aren’t testing for death!!!
context is important, we believe if we’re talking deaths outright then there have been plenty more over the past 2 years
US urges against travel to New Zealand over COVID surge
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-08/us-urges-against-travel-to-new-zealand-over-covid-surge/100891788
ROFL
sibeen said:
US urges against travel to New Zealand over COVID surgehttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-08/us-urges-against-travel-to-new-zealand-over-covid-surge/100891788
ROFL
On a cases/head basis, things are looking pretty bad there, although there are two other countries with similar populations that have higher numbers.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
US urges against travel to New Zealand over COVID surgehttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-08/us-urges-against-travel-to-new-zealand-over-covid-surge/100891788
ROFL
On a cases/head basis, things are looking pretty bad there, although there are two other countries with similar populations that have higher numbers.
Still thinking of the Florida governor scolding the maskwearing kids for their “covid theatre” like it is all in the past… they’ve lost 70000 people in that state, 9000 so far this year.
speaking of mask,
but you’re all going to love the next one and it isn’t even about masks
SCIENCE said:
you’re all going to love the next one
here it is, good luck
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/07/health/covid-brain-changes.html
Covid-19 may cause greater loss of gray matter and tissue damage in the brain than naturally occurs in people who have not been infected with the virus, a large new study finds. The study, involving people aged 51 to 81, found shrinkage and tissue damage primarily in brain areas related to sense of smell; some of those areas are also involved in other brain functions, the researchers said.
But, she cautioned: “To make a conclusion that this has some long-term clinical implications for the patients I think is a stretch. We don’t want to scare the public and have them think, ‘Oh, this is proof that everyone’s going to have brain damage and not be able to function.’”
With normal aging, people lose a tiny fraction of gray matter each year. For example, in regions related to memory, the typical annual loss is between 0.2 percent and 0.3 percent, the researchers said. But Covid patients in the study — who underwent their second brain scan an average of four and a half months after their infection — lost more than noninfected participants, experiencing between 0.2 percent and 2 percent additional gray matter loss in different brain regions over the three years between scans. They also lost more overall brain volume and showed more tissue damage in certain areas.
People who had Covid also showed greater decline than uninfected people on a cognitive test related to attention and efficiency in performing a complex task. But outside experts and Dr. Douaud noted that the cognitive testing was rudimentary, so the study is very limited in what it can say about whether the gray matter loss and tissue damage the Covid patients experienced affected their cognitive skills.
Nah fuck you wouldn’t want to scare people, you wouldn’t want people thinking that maybe they shouldn’t catch dementiavirus, you wouldn’t want people thinking at all which is why it’s good to Let It Rip® ¡
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
US urges against travel to New Zealand over COVID surge
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-08/us-urges-against-travel-to-new-zealand-over-covid-surge/100891788
ROFL
On a cases/head basis, things are looking pretty bad there, although there are two other countries with similar populations that have higher numbers.
Still thinking of the Florida governor scolding the maskwearing kids for their “covid theatre” like it is all in the past… they’ve lost 70000 people in that state, 9000 so far this year.
a fun one for you,
except that given it increases heart attack risk by 10 times, they forgot number 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9, which are
Among a variety of other preventative measures, the store made the pricey decision to give all of its approximately 120 staff two free rapid antigen tests (RATs) to use before work for when they felt unwell.
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imagine spending the same fifty bucks on a box of good masks which would not only last them a month at work or even longer, but also prevent feeling unwell in the first place so they could continue to work safely
I didn’t realize NZ had taken off so much in terms of cases. Deaths still quite low. (Watch that y axis calibration)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/new-zealand/
Interesting read.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/fact-check-omicron-75-per-cent-less-severe/100892732
Michael V said:
Interesting read.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/fact-check-omicron-75-per-cent-less-severe/100892732
A long one as well.
Laugh Out Loud @ Genius
COVID-19 cases in New South Wales could double within weeks as a sub-variant of the Omicron strain sweeps across the state, according to new data.
The forecasted rise in cases comes after NSW recorded 16,288 new cases today, marking a significant increase from the 8782 daily cases recorded on Sunday.
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud @ GeniusCOVID-19 cases in New South Wales could double within weeks as a sub-variant of the Omicron strain sweeps across the state, according to new data.
The forecasted rise in cases comes after NSW recorded 16,288 new cases today, marking a significant increase from the 8782 daily cases recorded on Sunday.
Payback from NZ?
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud @ GeniusCOVID-19 cases in New South Wales could double within weeks as a sub-variant of the Omicron strain sweeps across the state, according to new data.
The forecasted rise in cases comes after NSW recorded 16,288 new cases today, marking a significant increase from the 8782 daily cases recorded on Sunday.
Payback from NZ?
“The number of new COVID-19 cases in Western Australia has jumped sharply again to 4,535 in the
latest reporting period, with three people now in intensive care.
That’s almost one thousand more than yesterday’s figure of 3,594.”
The damn panic is over, people have had their shots and getting on with their lives.
It’s over son (puts arm around SCIENCE) come on lets go and have a nice cup of tea.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud @ GeniusCOVID-19 cases in New South Wales could double within weeks as a sub-variant of the Omicron strain sweeps across the state, according to new data.
The forecasted rise in cases comes after NSW recorded 16,288 new cases today, marking a significant increase from the 8782 daily cases recorded on Sunday.
Payback from NZ?
“The number of new COVID-19 cases in Western Australia has jumped sharply again to 4,535 in the
latest reporting period, with three people now in intensive care.
That’s almost one thousand more than yesterday’s figure of 3,594.”The damn panic is over, people have had their shots and getting on with their lives.
It’s over son (puts arm around SCIENCE) come on lets go and have a nice cup of tea.
Work is talking about stricter policies such a splitting the team were half work from home and the other half come into work.
A Griffith man in his seventies died from Japanese encephalitis.
roughbarked said:
A Griffith man in his seventies died from Japanese encephalitis.
Is that the one from yesterday or another one?
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
A Griffith man in his seventies died from Japanese encephalitis.
Is that the one from yesterday or another one?
Oh he died on 13th Feb. He was diagnosed yesterday.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
A Griffith man in his seventies died from Japanese encephalitis.
Is that the one from yesterday or another one?
Oh he died on 13th Feb. He was diagnosed yesterday.
right. a back from the future death.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:Is that the one from yesterday or another one?
Oh he died on 13th Feb. He was diagnosed yesterday.
right. a back from the future death.
February. Right. February.
Cymek said:
Work is talking about stricter policies such a splitting the team were half work from home and the other half come into work.
If they start talking about ‘top half’ and ‘bottom half’, get out quick.
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:Work is talking about stricter policies such a splitting the team were half work from home and the other half come into work.
If they start talking about ‘top half’ and ‘bottom half’, get out quick.
I’ll run faster than Forrest Gump
ABC News:
‘The 250 most recent top stories.
NSW might have a new dominant COVID-19 stain — here’s what you need to know about BA.2’
Hold on to your hats, folks, we’re going around again.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘The 250 most recent top stories.
NSW might have a new dominant COVID-19 stain — here’s what you need to know about BA.2’Hold on to your hats, folks, we’re going around again.
URL:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/what-we-know-about-covid-omicron-sub-variant-ba2/100899980
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘The 250 most recent top stories.
NSW might have a new dominant COVID-19 stain — here’s what you need to know about BA.2’Hold on to your hats, folks, we’re going around again.
URL:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/what-we-know-about-covid-omicron-sub-variant-ba2/100899980
There were 600 kids absent from Little Speedy’s school due to Covid (because they have it or they are isolating) yesterday. This morning, one of his friends who he sits next to daily, left school as he was feeling unwell, did a RAT, and is positive. Little Speedy did a RAT when he returned home and is, so far, negative. His friend no longer wears a mask, but Little Speedy chooses to double-mask all day, so hopefully this has worked for him.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘The 250 most recent top stories.
NSW might have a new dominant COVID-19 stain — here’s what you need to know about BA.2’Hold on to your hats, folks, we’re going around again.
URL:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/what-we-know-about-covid-omicron-sub-variant-ba2/100899980
There were 600 kids absent from Little Speedy’s school due to Covid (because they have it or they are isolating) yesterday. This morning, one of his friends who he sits next to daily, left school as he was feeling unwell, did a RAT, and is positive. Little Speedy did a RAT when he returned home and is, so far, negative. His friend no longer wears a mask, but Little Speedy chooses to double-mask all day, so hopefully this has worked for him.
Matt took me down to pick up my groceries. He hasn’t been off the mountain for a while either. He muttered that he didn’t like masks. I said that even though customers dont have to wear them anymore, and even though they raise my anxiety, yesterday there were 1200 news cases in Tassie and so I am wearing a mask. And then he put on his mask. Where’s the check? in he said. No check ins anmore I said.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘The 250 most recent top stories.
NSW might have a new dominant COVID-19 stain — here’s what you need to know about BA.2’Hold on to your hats, folks, we’re going around again.
URL:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/what-we-know-about-covid-omicron-sub-variant-ba2/100899980
There were 600 kids absent from Little Speedy’s school due to Covid (because they have it or they are isolating) yesterday. This morning, one of his friends who he sits next to daily, left school as he was feeling unwell, did a RAT, and is positive. Little Speedy did a RAT when he returned home and is, so far, negative. His friend no longer wears a mask, but Little Speedy chooses to double-mask all day, so hopefully this has worked for him.
Hope so.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘The 250 most recent top stories.
NSW might have a new dominant COVID-19 stain — here’s what you need to know about BA.2’Hold on to your hats, folks, we’re going around again.
URL:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/what-we-know-about-covid-omicron-sub-variant-ba2/100899980
There were 600 kids absent from Little Speedy’s school due to Covid (because they have it or they are isolating) yesterday. This morning, one of his friends who he sits next to daily, left school as he was feeling unwell, did a RAT, and is positive. Little Speedy did a RAT when he returned home and is, so far, negative. His friend no longer wears a mask, but Little Speedy chooses to double-mask all day, so hopefully this has worked for him.
It will have helped quite a lot. He’s a smart lad.
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:URL:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-10/what-we-know-about-covid-omicron-sub-variant-ba2/100899980
There were 600 kids absent from Little Speedy’s school due to Covid (because they have it or they are isolating) yesterday. This morning, one of his friends who he sits next to daily, left school as he was feeling unwell, did a RAT, and is positive. Little Speedy did a RAT when he returned home and is, so far, negative. His friend no longer wears a mask, but Little Speedy chooses to double-mask all day, so hopefully this has worked for him.
Hope so.
wait isn’t being away from school à disaster for their development and mental health
Grown Up Immaturity
On another thread, I said that vaccination has no effect on transmission.
The immediate response of four forumites was “prove it or retract it”.
Kingy in particular posted links to four published studies that gave reductions in Covid transmission with vaccination of between 30% and 90%.
OK, here’s my proof.
What is transmission?
Transmission is the number of new cases divided by the number of active cases. Because many countries report on a 7 day cycle, the number of new cases is smoothed over 7 days, centred on the date in question.
The data in the chart is the current data from “OurWorldInData” by John Hopkins University, available in the download file “owa-covid-data.csv”
All countries are plotted, at all dates for which vaccination and transmission data are both available. With two exceptions. The data is limited to countries and days where the number of active covid cases in more than 700, in order to avoid dividing by a small number, and countries with a population of more than 1,000,000 to avoid small states where the data quality may be less reliable.
The covid transmission rate is virtually independent of the presence of vaccine. There is actually a small increase in covid transmission with increasing vaccination, but this increase is probably not significant.
In order to test the robustness of the results, I redid the analysis taking only the peaks in transmission data, ignoring those dates when the transmission was rising or falling. The results, also shown on the above graph, validate the initial analysis.
Looking at the effects of vaccination on the new case load of individual countries finds that the total number of new covid cases actually increases with increasing vaccination.
There are two trendlines on this chart. The lower one is the best linear fit to the data, and that’s the equation. The upper one is the best quadratic fit to the data. The data actually better follows a trend where the number of new cases increases quadratically with increasing vaccination.
As before, the data is limited to countries and days where the number of active covid cases in more than 700, and countries with a population of more than 1,000,000. And the number of new cases is smoothed over 7 days.
Looking at the effects of vaccination on the new deaths load of individual countries finds that the total number of new covid deaths reduces with with increasing vaccination. But not by as much as we would hope.
This chart is less accurate than it could be because I’ve ignored the time-lag between vaccination and death, but including the time lag would not affect the trends significantly.
So, why does this result disagree with the results of the four research articles posted by Kingy?
I don’t know, because so far I’ve only browsed one of the articles.
But one difference is that the current study has of order a million times as much data as the previous research articles.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-11/coronacheck-george-christensen-vaccinated-death-statistic/100899316
George Christensen says ‘elites’ have suddenly started hiding vaccinated death statistics. Here’s why that’s wrong
RMIT ABC Fact Check
surprisingly good article
for Your ABC
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-11/covid-second-anniversary-what-we-got-wrong/100899780
by some so called “expert” who obviously knows basically nothing
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-11/coronacheck-george-christensen-vaccinated-death-statistic/100899316George Christensen says ‘elites’ have suddenly started hiding vaccinated death statistics. Here’s why that’s wrong
RMIT ABC Fact Check
I don’t remember anything George Christensen has ever said that displays any semblance of critical thinking; I suspect he is incapable.
Same goes for Craig Kelly.
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-11/coronacheck-george-christensen-vaccinated-death-statistic/100899316George Christensen says ‘elites’ have suddenly started hiding vaccinated death statistics. Here’s why that’s wrong
RMIT ABC Fact Check
The problem with George is that he spends so much time in Manila that you can’t be certain that he knows which govt he’s talking about, Australia or the Phillippines.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-11/coronacheck-george-christensen-vaccinated-death-statistic/100899316George Christensen says ‘elites’ have suddenly started hiding vaccinated death statistics. Here’s why that’s wrong
RMIT ABC Fact Check
The problem with George is that he spends so much time in Manila that you can’t be certain that he knows which govt he’s talking about, Australia or the Phillippines.
He should have a folder to keep information in
Michael V said:
dv said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-11/coronacheck-george-christensen-vaccinated-death-statistic/100899316George Christensen says ‘elites’ have suddenly started hiding vaccinated death statistics. Here’s why that’s wrong
RMIT ABC Fact Check
I don’t remember anything George Christensen has ever said that displays any semblance of critical thinking; I suspect he is incapable.
Same goes for Craig Kelly.
I’m not sure they think much at all.
captain_spalding said:
tbh we bin sayin’ similar
captain_spalding said:
Love it!
:)
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
tbh we bin sayin’ similar
Surprisingly, I hadn’t noticed. /TIC
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
tbh we bin sayin’ similar
Surprisingly, I hadn’t noticed. /TIC
NIH disinformation
Schools with mandatory masking during the Delta surge had approximately 72% fewer cases of in-school transmission of SARS-CoV-2 when compared to schools with optional or partial masking policies, according to a study funded by the National Institutes of Health. The study included more than 1.1 million students and over 157,000 staff attending in-person school across nine states: North Carolina, Wisconsin, Missouri, California, Washington, Georgia, Tennessee, Kansas and Texas. The study is supported by NIH’s Rapid Acceleration of Diagnostics – Underserved Populations (RADx-UP) program and the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD). It appears in Pediatrics.
Earlier in the year, concern was raised after a lab in Cyprus claimed to have found evidence of a Delta-Omicron recombination event – when the two variants co-infect a patient and exchange genetic material to produce a new viral offspring – but experts said the findings were false. Now, however, virologists from L’Institut Pasteur in Paris have sequenced the genome of a genuine “Deltacron” variant, which has been detected in several regions of France and appears to have been circulating since early January.
“This one is legit,” said Aris Katzourakis, a professor of evolution and genomics at the University of Oxford. “ one to keep an eye on.” Viral genomes with a similar profile to the Deltacron variant in France have also been discovered in Denmark and the Netherlands, but it has yet to be established if these recombinants derive from the same ancestor.
legit’
even more legit’
https://www.lucymcbride.com/newsletter/hope-and-caution-arent-mutally-exclusive
Transitions are always hard, particularly for people who like predictability and sameness. So as we emerge from the Omicron wave on the heels of two years of a pandemic, it’s no wonder people are a little undone. We’ve all experienced loss in some way. Whether we’ve lost a loved one to COVID-19, a job, or the mere sense of normalcy at school, loss is loss.
sorry lack of emphasis not ours, we’ll fix that
Transitions are always hard, particularly for people who like predictability and sameness. So as we emerge from the Omicron wave on the heels of two years of a pandemic, it’s no wonder people are a little undone. We’ve all experienced loss in some way. Whether we’ve lost a loved one to COVID-19, a job, or the mere sense of normalcy at school, loss is loss.
no worries oh sorry about Ukraine by the way the petrol prices are a bit high today
SCIENCE said:
even more legit’https://www.lucymcbride.com/newsletter/hope-and-caution-arent-mutally-exclusive
Transitions are always hard, particularly for people who like predictability and sameness. So as we emerge from the Omicron wave on the heels of two years of a pandemic, it’s no wonder people are a little undone. We’ve all experienced loss in some way. Whether we’ve lost a loved one to COVID-19, a job, or the mere sense of normalcy at school, loss is loss.
sorry lack of emphasis not ours, we’ll fix that
Transitions are always hard, particularly for people who like predictability and sameness. So as we emerge from the Omicron wave on the heels of two years of a pandemic, it’s no wonder people are a little undone. We’ve all experienced loss in some way. Whether we’ve lost a loved one to COVID-19, a job, or the mere sense of normalcy at school, loss is loss.
no worries oh sorry about Ukraine by the way the petrol prices are a bit high today
I imagine the human race should expect things to get worse, this is just a prelude for the rest of the century
yeah but rabies isn’t a biological weapon
Actually, no, they got awarded for killing less of their population than that renegade province / overseas territory, the USSA.
SCIENCE said:
December 30, 2019
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
December 30, 2019
Today’s Qld figures
623 deaths since Covid began
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
December 30, 2019
Today’s Qld figures
623 deaths since Covid began
Whose the BHCF ?
Laugh* Out Loud
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-19-update-mar-9-1.6378388
*: so hard that you cry because it’s so funny
SCIENCE said:
Laugh* Out Loudhttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-19-update-mar-9-1.6378388
*: so hard that you cry because it’s so funny
That’s worthy of a mention by Shaun Micallef.
SCIENCE said:
Laugh* Out Loudhttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-19-update-mar-9-1.6378388
*: so hard that you cry because it’s so funny
Holy crap that’s funny. Those poor people, but yeah, funny…
SCIENCE said:
Laugh* Out Loudhttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-19-update-mar-9-1.6378388
*: so hard that you cry because it’s so funny
:)
In other news, four of my work gang of six are off with covid, leaving just me and one other bloke remaining.
Stay tuned next week to see who will be eliminated…
Dark Orange said:
In other news, four of my work gang of six are off with covid, leaving just me and one other bloke remaining.Stay tuned next week to see who will be eliminated…
You’re where we were end of last year start of this year.
poikilotherm said:
Dark Orange said:
In other news, four of my work gang of six are off with covid, leaving just me and one other bloke remaining.Stay tuned next week to see who will be eliminated…
You’re where we were end of last year start of this year.
So there is no skipping destiny.
;)
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
Dark Orange said:
In other news, four of my work gang of six are off with covid, leaving just me and one other bloke remaining.Stay tuned next week to see who will be eliminated…
You’re where we were end of last year start of this year.
So there is no skipping destiny.
;)
Nope, on the plus only 33% of my staff got covid, and all from non work related activities.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:You’re where we were end of last year start of this year.
So there is no skipping destiny.
;)
Nope, on the plus only 33% of my staff got covid, and all from non work related activities.
Did they all attend the same orgy?
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:So there is no skipping destiny.
;)
Nope, on the plus only 33% of my staff got covid, and all from non work related activities.
Did they all attend the same orgy?
National cabinet agrees to relax the isolation rules for close contacts of a COVID-19 case as soon as possible, and asks the national expert health panel to provide urgent advice on how to ditch the quarantine period.
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:So there is no skipping destiny.
;)
Nope, on the plus only 33% of my staff got covid, and all from non work related activities.
Did they all attend the same orgy?
Probably, I don’t ask, if I’m not invited I don’t want to know.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:You’re where we were end of last year start of this year.
So there is no skipping destiny.
;)
Nope, on the plus only 33% of my staff got covid, and all from non work related activities.
Out of interest…how many of them were unwell?
I just love the “I’m a broken branch and you won’t see me!” attitude of tawny frogmouths.
An iNaturalist observation posted today, taken in January in the Little Desert.
buffy said:
I just love the “I’m a broken branch and you won’t see me!” attitude of tawny frogmouths.
An iNaturalist observation posted today, taken in January in the Little Desert.
And they are a vector for covid.
Dark Orange said:
In other news, four of my work gang of six are off with covid, leaving just me and one other bloke remaining.Stay tuned next week to see who will be eliminated…
are you allowed to work with just 2? does it adhere to safety shit?
The Australian Border Force has confirmed a staff member at the Christmas Island detention centre has tested positive for COVID-19.
It is the second of two cases recorded there this week — the only infections since the pandemic began in 2020.
The ABF confirmed the case late on Friday, along with four cases among staff members at its Yongah Hills Detention Centre in Northam, Western Australia.
oh wait what’s this
what
did we
fucking say
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-12/covid-outbreak-prompts-china-to-lock-down-city/100905110
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-12/covid-outbreak-prompts-china-to-lock-down-city/100905110
They kinda gotta sorta admit that their vaccines are ineffective, and buy a few billion doses of the vaccines developed in western countries and use them instead.
Deaths of homeless people in San Francisco doubled during Covid
Mansur Shaheen U.S. Deputy Health Editor For Dailymail.Com 3 hrs ago
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Nine refugees released from Park Hotel
San Francisco suffered a surge of deaths among homeless people during the first year of the COVID-19 pandemic, a new study finds.
Researchers from the University of California, San Francisco, found that the number of deaths among people ‘experiencing homelessness’ doubled in the year-long span from March 17, 2020 to March 17, 2021, up to 311.
A surge in deaths caused by drug overdoses in particular accounted for nearly all of the increase. None of the deaths were attributed to the virus itself.
Ancillary deaths during the pandemic have been well reported on, but homeless people are generally left behind in many studies as gathering data regarding them is generally harder.
Researchers say that while lockdown orders were successful at preventing transmission of the virus, they also closed resources homeless people could have used to deal with drug overdose.
The lockdown order was the start of when homeless deaths began to surge© Provided by Daily Mail Researchers say that while lockdown orders were successful at preventing transmission of the virus, they also closed resources homeless people could have used to deal with drug overdose. The lockdown order was the start of when homeless deaths began to surge
‘No deaths in our data set were due to COVID-19 itself, which may speak to the success of San Francisco’s efforts to mitigate the spread of the virus in vulnerable populations,’ researchers wrote.
‘However, the pandemic had far-reaching effects on outreach, health, and social services … that may have contributed to increased mortality from non–COVID-19 causes.’
Researchers, who published their findings Thursday in JAMA Network Open, gathered data from the San Francisco Office of the Chief Medical Examiner from 2016 through the pandemic year.
Deaths generally do not change year to year among any group, no matter the cause, barring some sort of massive event – like a global pandemic.
Homeless deaths slightly increased year-to-year from 2016 to 2019. from 128 in 2016 to 147 in 2019.
San Francisco’s homeless population has had well documented growth in recent years. The number of homeless people increased 17% from 2017 to 2019
These increases could just be normal fluctuation, or they could speak to the growing homeless population in the city.
From 2017 to 2019, it is reported that the city’s homeless population jumped a staggering 17 percent.
Deaths more than doubled during the first year of pandemic-imposed measures in the city, eclipsing the 300 mark.
The deaths per 100,000 residents figure surged as well, up from just under 2,000 deaths per 100,000 homeless residents to over 4,000 during the pandemic.
Interestingly enough, the virus itself did not count for a single death included in the data.
Instead, drug overdoses made up almost the entire year over year differential.
In each of 2016 and 2017, under 40 drug overdose deaths were recorded among the city’s homeless population.
The figure jumped up to 66 in 2018, and jumped once again in 2019. This is consistent with the overall surge of opioid deaths that struck the nation in the late 2010s.
In 2020, drug overdose deaths among the homeless nearly double, with 178 recorded by city officials.
Opioids (black) make up nearly 80% of drug overdose deaths in the U.S., and synthetic opioids like fentanyl (brown) make up a large portion of overall opioid deaths
‘This disruption to services coincided with increasing unintended overdose deaths in San Francisco, driven by the growing presence of fentanyl,’ the researchers wrote, blaming the synthetic opioids for the surge in deaths.
Opioids account for around 80 percent of drug overdose deaths in America, with synthetic drugs like fentanyl making up around 70 percent in particular.
‘COVID-19 mitigation policies may have affected how, when, and where people used drugs and the chances a passerby could intervene in case of an overdose,’ the research team added.
‘COVID-19–related effects on the health system may have led to decreased access to treatment.
‘We found that a low proportion of decedents had recent contact with behavioral health services, including office-based substance use disorder treatment programs.’
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-12/covid-outbreak-prompts-china-to-lock-down-city/100905110
They kinda gotta sorta admit that their vaccines are ineffective, and buy a few billion doses of the vaccines developed in western countries and use them instead.
Russia and Ukraine should follow China’s lockdown example and they both go into lockdown and close down borders.
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Tau.Neutrino said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-12/covid-outbreak-prompts-china-to-lock-down-city/100905110
They kinda gotta sorta admit that their vaccines are ineffective, and buy a few billion doses of the vaccines developed in western countries and use them instead.
Russia and Ukraine should follow China’s lockdown example and they both go into lockdown and close down borders.
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Russia should just stop being arseholes and send their army back home.
party_pants said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
party_pants said:They kinda gotta sorta admit that their vaccines are ineffective, and buy a few billion doses of the vaccines developed in western countries and use them instead.
Russia and Ukraine should follow China’s lockdown example and they both go into lockdown and close down borders.
Fixed.
Russia should just stop being arseholes and send their army back home.
+1.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-12/covid-outbreak-prompts-china-to-lock-down-city/100905110
They kinda gotta sorta admit that their vaccines are ineffective, and buy a few billion doses of the vaccines developed in western countries and use them instead.
ABC straight into it there, offering ideas about how it is to be seen
“Chinese officials have locked down a city of 9 million people as the Omicron variant tests its zero tolerance approach to COVID-19”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-12/scott-morrison-say-covid-close-contact-isolation-rules-redundant/100905386
The latest lockdowns, which also include 500,000 people in Yucheng in the eastern province of Shandong, show China is sticking to the draconian approach to the pandemic it has enforced for most of the past two years, despite some earlier indications that authorities would be implementing more targeted measures.
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sorry, our bias is showing, we think they meant
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The latest lockdowns, which also include 500,000 people in Yucheng in the eastern province of Shandong, show China is sticking to the health and economy preserving approach to the pandemic it has enforced for most of the past two years, despite some earlier indications that authorities would be implementing less, targeted measures.
SCIENCE said:
P2~FFP2~N95~KN95~KF94~+
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/969937
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), more than half of people in the US are in the never-got-COVID category.
William Schaffner, MD, an infectious disease expert at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine in Nashville, Tennessee, told Medscape Medical News science has not been able to determine why some people have been able to be stay COVID-free when the virus was raging and exposure was ubiquitous.
“People may have conceivably — but we can’t define them yet — different capacities to ward off viruses or bacteria,” Schaffner said.
Could it be that some people have a better immune system or genetic component or environmental reason that they are less susceptible to infectious disease? “We can’t define that in 2022 medicine, but it could be,” he said.
He warns those who have never been infected, though, not to assume they have “a suit of armor.”
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gee we wonder what might actually be like a suit of armour
SCIENCE said:
Huh?
What’s wrong with enjoying the company of the people you work with? They don’t have to be your best mates, but you spend lots of hours at work, so a bit of human company is good.
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
Huh?
What’s wrong with enjoying the company of the people you work with? They don’t have to be your best mates, but you spend lots of hours at work, so a bit of human company is good.
nah it’s cool we’re quite happy with most people we work with, but we wouldn’t be going to the office for the socials
but yeah we acknowledge that there may be people out there with actual friends who do go to the office for the socials
of course in our case we totally can have no actual friends and also not want to return to the office
https://www.ft.com/content/33444f29-bab1-4655-85b5-c0b1f68d9653
So everyone thought that this would be the perfect opportunity to burn off the deformed / disabled / demented, sure a few healthy young people might take a little hit but it’d be worth it to rid ourselves of the massive care bill for those disabled / demented / deformed parasites.
A quarter of UK employers say long Covid is now one of the main causes of long-term sickness absence among their staff, according to research that suggests the debilitating condition could be exacerbating labour shortages that are plaguing many parts of the economy.
Turns out that the upfront cost benefit analysis looked good but the consequence is even more demented / deformed / disabled people than before.
The survey adds to growing evidence that long-term health issues are adding to existing strains on a depleted UK workforce. Official data show the number of people who are not working or looking for a job due to long-term ill health has increased by 230,000 from pre-pandemic levels.
Nice¡
North American Greater Britain In 2022 Becomes South China Greater Ex-1997-Britain In 2019
Thank Fuck Everyone Here Is Over 25 Years Old By Now
The 25-year-old wife of Justin Bieber was admitted to a hospital near Palm Springs a few days ago for a brain-related condition, TMZ reported on Saturday.
In an update posted later in the day, Hailey revealed she had developed ‘stroke-like symptoms’ due to a blood clot in her brain.
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What ever you do, don’t mention new variants.
SCIENCE said:
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progress you know – zombyism – required to grow those markets
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
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progress you know – zombyism – required to grow those markets
In this day and age, the number of hospitalisations is more important than the number of cases.
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
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progress you know – zombyism – required to grow those markets
don’t worry the survival rate is higher than with Japanese Encephalitis wait it’s like the same
Dark Orange said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
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progress you know – zombyism – required to grow those markets
In this day and age, the number of hospitalisations is more important than the number of cases.
yeah i’ll ignore all the brain damage, the biological insult, the epithelial plague being passed off as a common cold, variously sequelae
transition said:
Dark Orange said:
transition said:progress you know – zombyism – required to grow those markets
In this day and age, the number of hospitalisations is more important than the number of cases.
yeah i’ll ignore all the brain damage, the biological insult, the epithelial plague being passed off as a common cold, variously sequelae
they forgot to qualify, what the psychopaths want us to believe, is …
Everyone in Shenzhen will undergo three rounds of testing following 75 new cases being recorded on Sunday.
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Fuck imagine testing all Australians within 14 days, what a mess ¡
SCIENCE said:
Everyone in Shenzhen will undergo three rounds of testing following 75 new cases being recorded on Sunday.—
Fuck imagine testing all Australians within 14
daysmonths, what a mess ¡
Fixed.
SCIENCE said:
Devil’s Pact Plays Out
https://www.ft.com/content/33444f29-bab1-4655-85b5-c0b1f68d9653
So everyone thought that this would be the perfect opportunity to burn off the deformed / disabled / demented, sure a few healthy young people might take a little hit but it’d be worth it to rid ourselves of the massive care bill for those disabled / demented / deformed parasites.
A quarter of UK employers say long Covid is now one of the main causes of long-term sickness absence among their staff, according to research that suggests the debilitating condition could be exacerbating labour shortages that are plaguing many parts of the economy.
Turns out that the upfront cost benefit analysis looked good but the consequence is even more demented / deformed / disabled people than before.
The survey adds to growing evidence that long-term health issues are adding to existing strains on a depleted UK workforce. Official data show the number of people who are not working or looking for a job due to long-term ill health has increased by 230,000 from pre-pandemic levels.
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For those worried about the potential of catching COVID and the flu at the same time, Dr Turville says one infection may actually help prevent another. Either a COVID or influenza infection sends the innate immune system into overdrive, meaning it’s harder for another virus to get through. “Because it’s broadly acting and not specifically acting against the pathogen, it can actually slow down and interfere with the other,” Dr Turville says. “If you get a dose of the flu, and those pathways are fired up, it’s going to be harder for another pathogen to come and nestle in.”
no worries, infection with HIV prevents other infections which find it harder to nestle
wait
Nearly Half of Hong Kong’s Population Has Likely Caught Covid
Researchers say total infections will reach about 4.5 million
Death toll likely to be reach 5,100 by May 1, mostly seniors
By Bruce Einhorn and Linda Lew
About half of Hong Kong’s 7.4 million people have already been infected with Covid-19, according to an estimate of the damage caused by the deadly omicron wave that’s overwhelmed the city.
Researchers at the University of Hong Kong determined that about 3.6 million Hong Kongers caught the disease through March 14. That’s up from an estimated 1.8 million infections they concluded had developed through March 7 based on disease modeling and an in-depth analysis of the ongoing outbreak.
While the current wave peaked on March 4, many more people will catch Covid before it ends, the researchers said. The total is likely to reach about 4.5 million, they said.
More than 5,100 people will die from Covid by May 1, the researchers forecast, up from an earlier estimate of about 5,010.
Elderly residents of care homes account for 59% of total deaths, they said.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-15/nearly-half-of-hong-kong-s-population-has-already-caught-covid?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Nearly Half of Hong Kong’s Population Has Likely Caught Covid
Researchers say total infections will reach about 4.5 million
Death toll likely to be reach 5,100 by May 1, mostly seniorsBy Bruce Einhorn and Linda Lew
About half of Hong Kong’s 7.4 million people have already been infected with Covid-19, according to an estimate of the damage caused by the deadly omicron wave that’s overwhelmed the city.
Researchers at the University of Hong Kong determined that about 3.6 million Hong Kongers caught the disease through March 14. That’s up from an estimated 1.8 million infections they concluded had developed through March 7 based on disease modeling and an in-depth analysis of the ongoing outbreak.
While the current wave peaked on March 4, many more people will catch Covid before it ends, the researchers said. The total is likely to reach about 4.5 million, they said.
More than 5,100 people will die from Covid by May 1, the researchers forecast, up from an earlier estimate of about 5,010.
Elderly residents of care homes account for 59% of total deaths, they said.
Damn that is a good way to get rid of the stay voters ¡
SCIENCE said:
I’ve always said that is what a smoking section is like.
then there’s this good news, excellent news, we all like a bit of gratuitous Asiankilling, it’ll do the world good
SCIENCE said:
then there’s this good news, excellent news, we all like a bit of gratuitous Asiankilling, it’ll do the world good
the age of plagues, the end days of abundance
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
then there’s this good news, excellent news, we all like a bit of gratuitous Asiankilling, it’ll do the world good
the age of plagues, the end days of abundance
On the other hand, there’s a growing awareness that China and Russia may not be the most dependable of business partners, and having a ‘Plan B’ might not be a bad idea:
ABC News:
‘China supplies the world’s critical minerals for mobile phones and jet fighters, but Australia is trying to break free
By political reporter Henry Belot
The federal government commits $240 million to developing its own critical minerals industry, as fears of a Chinese “monopoly” on the materials drives Australia to find its own supplies.’
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-16/government-funds-critical-minerals-end-china-reliance/100912002
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 14 degrees, overcast and getting light. Our forecast for today is for 27, with a shower or two. Might be a bit muggy up in the big tin shed for archery this evening.
Whoops. Sorry.
thankfully they’ve pointed out the important bit, much lower numbers than for adults
cool
Next week, the White House says it will start to wind down a COVID-19 program that pays to test, treat and vaccinate people who don’t have health insurance.
It’s one of several immediate impacts after Congress declined to add $22.5 billion in funding to a broad government spending bill passed last week. President Biden signed the bill into law on Tuesday, hailing it as a bipartisan achievement without mentioning the lack of COVID-19 funding.
The COVID-19 funding request met with political pushback from Republicans and concern among some lawmakers that the White House has not fully explained how trillions in COVID money has been spent so far and what funding remains. Republicans in particular have been unwilling to agree to new spending.
SCIENCE said:
thankfully they’ve pointed out the important bit, much lower numbers than for adults
well that’s a bit unfair for COVID-19 they’ve included data from 3 years
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
thankfully they’ve pointed out the important bit, much lower numbers than for adults
well that’s a bit unfair for COVID-19 they’ve included data from 3 years
the endemicists hiding behind the waves, they are, heard them on the news lastnight, the propaganda again
south australia’s got a spike, a new omicron strain was pointed to, though no numbers or justification were given to support it was caused by that
there it was anyway, evidence of the endemicists good work hiding behind mutations, hiding in notions of inevitable mutation and waves, hiding in the stupid multiplied, and people moved beyond two wrongs don’t make a right, to tens of thousands and millions and hundreds of millions do make a wrong right
it’s called consensus, a highly effective way to make stupid work
normal fueled by stupid
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/
Looks like Sweden have finished their third wave.
expecially the experts at it
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/03/15/catching-mild-covid-makes-less-depressed-anxious/
SCIENCE said:
Good News, Let It Rip® Cures All Mental Health Ills
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/03/15/catching-mild-covid-makes-less-depressed-anxious/
SCIENCE said:
expecially the experts at it
breeding the shit in any life it finds its way into on the planet, helped by the many mobile humans, an intentionalized perpetual superpandemic
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
Good News, Let It Rip® Cures All Mental Health Ills
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/03/15/catching-mild-covid-makes-less-depressed-anxious/
Today’s Qld figures.
fixed
BA.2
SCIENCE said:
Good News, Let It Rip® Cures All Mental Health Ills
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/03/15/catching-mild-covid-makes-less-depressed-anxious/
am I seeing more propaganda from the spin machine?
to distract from the cascade of intentionalized pandemic response failures dressed up as something more positive, a distraction from the psychological corruption of immunization deployed to tolerate very fluid and variable levels of wild covid, employed to invite covid
SCIENCE said:
BA.2
muted chuckle
the reality is the oblivious covid gregarious can and many do have notions of herd immunity in the absence of a working concept of what an epithelial cell is, or even epithelium, which is a useful ignorance if you were selling endemic covid
there is great utility in knowledge distortions toward that lend to expedient normal, you can get it from TV anytime, everyday, ignorance in the service of the indifference of money, no small part of its value is in just that, indifference
Thursday at school we had 4 people away with Covid related things, be that they have the thing themselves or are close contacts, today it was 15.
Slightly jittery atm. I have to pcr test on Thursday next week and be clear before they let me leave the country.
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
My sister in law has just told me they are in isolation because youngest child tested positive yesterday. For some reason I thought close contacts didn’t have to isolate now. But a Google around the news suggests there was talk about 10 days ago about dropping isolation for close contacts and some group of people were going to consider it and report back to whoever, and it would seem nothing more has happened. I’ve really lost track now.
It’s all gradually going slack again.
Here in Tas the government has dropped mask-wearing for most things. But the Ross people and I still wear masks in the shops, like other sensible types.
+1
Im still double masking. I dunno if its better or does nothing but it makes me feel better
It’s certainly sensible in your job I’d imagine.
that’s what the mask is for.. for the individuals peace of mind.. at least according to a growing group of people and research.
Stop it. You’ll make MZL cry…
I think the main problem and probably the data that is being relied on is the type of mask people are wearing. I have never thought the cloth masks were a great idea, especially the home made one (no matter how many layers). the filter ones are slightly better, but the surgical ones and the n95’s are the dopest.. but people are torn between the last decades push towards non disposable and now disposing of masks… but the ducks seem to enjoy wearing them…
I always break the straps.
you are depriving the ducks and turtles of fashion moments.
Good. What have they ever done for us?
wait so all those healthcare workers on the COVID-19 ward are just wearing muzzles to feel good about themselves is that right
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
you are depriving the ducks and turtles of fashion moments.
Good. What have they ever done for us?
wait so all those healthcare workers on the COVID-19 ward are just wearing muzzles to feel good about themselves is that right
you were right WR.
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Good. What have they ever done for us?
wait so all those healthcare workers on the COVID-19 ward are just wearing muzzles to feel good about themselves is that right
you were right WR.
God Moves In Mysterious Ways
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:Bogsnorkler said:
Good. What have they ever done for us?
wait so all those healthcare workers on the COVID-19 ward are just wearing muzzles to feel good about themselves is that right
you were right WR.
but for the record, I didn’t mean the workers.. obviously with their level of exposure all forms of PPE are acceptable.. for the average person who is out.. probs no too much of an issue… especially given the inconsistent ‘rules’ around mask wearing and being in public… yes on public transport where you don’t talk to anyone anyway, no at restaurants where you are eating and drinking and conversing and sitting next to a bunch of strangers doing the same thing, yes in office workplaces even when your desk is nowhere near anyone else and most communication is via zoom or email, no in outdoor public places with no social distancing and people conversing and yelling and playing sports and running past you…
Arts said:
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:wait so all those healthcare workers on the COVID-19 ward are just wearing muzzles to feel good about themselves is that right
you were right WR.
but for the record, I didn’t mean the workers.. obviously with their level of exposure all forms of PPE are acceptable.. for the average person who is out.. probs no too much of an issue… especially given the inconsistent ‘rules’ around mask wearing and being in public… yes on public transport where you don’t talk to anyone anyway, no at restaurants where you are eating and drinking and conversing and sitting next to a bunch of strangers doing the same thing, yes in office workplaces even when your desk is nowhere near anyone else and most communication is via zoom or email, no in outdoor public places with no social distancing and people conversing and yelling and playing sports and running past you…
yes in supermarkets where again you don’t really talk to anyone and you don’t really hang around strangers.. no at the sport ball stadium outside where people are in rows and screaming and shouting… it’s weird and seems very arbitrary.
Evening
Arts said:
Arts said:
Arts said:you were right WR.
but for the record, I didn’t mean the workers.. obviously with their level of exposure all forms of PPE are acceptable.. for the average person who is out.. probs no too much of an issue… especially given the inconsistent ‘rules’ around mask wearing and being in public… yes on public transport where you don’t talk to anyone anyway, no at restaurants where you are eating and drinking and conversing and sitting next to a bunch of strangers doing the same thing, yes in office workplaces even when your desk is nowhere near anyone else and most communication is via zoom or email, no in outdoor public places with no social distancing and people conversing and yelling and playing sports and running past you…
yes in supermarkets where again you don’t really talk to anyone and you don’t really hang around strangers.. no at the sport ball stadium outside where people are in rows and screaming and shouting… it’s weird and seems very arbitrary.
no wonder I am too scared to go out and about.
monkey skipper said:
Evening
we apologise and blame the dog whistle
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
Arts said:
but for the record, I didn’t mean the workers.. obviously with their level of exposure all forms of PPE are acceptable.. for the average person who is out.. probs no too much of an issue… especially given the inconsistent ‘rules’ around mask wearing and being in public… yes on public transport where you don’t talk to anyone anyway, no at restaurants where you are eating and drinking and conversing and sitting next to a bunch of strangers doing the same thing, yes in office workplaces even when your desk is nowhere near anyone else and most communication is via zoom or email, no in outdoor public places with no social distancing and people conversing and yelling and playing sports and running past you…
yes in supermarkets where again you don’t really talk to anyone and you don’t really hang around strangers.. no at the sport ball stadium outside where people are in rows and screaming and shouting… it’s weird and seems very arbitrary.
no wonder I am too scared to go out and about.
Looking around the world, healthcare workers otherwise directly exposed to SARS-CoV-2 in actively shedding patients but wearing P2~FFP2~N95~KN95~KF94~+ for the duration of the encounter seem to be almost completely protected from transmission. If someone in the community were to wear the same, in situations which are generally less likely to transmit, we suggest that they too would be almost completely protected from transmission. Life could pretty* much go back to normal.
*: in fact, better than normal, because research apparently shows that masks make people prettier
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
yes in supermarkets where again you don’t really talk to anyone and you don’t really hang around strangers.. no at the sport ball stadium outside where people are in rows and screaming and shouting… it’s weird and seems very arbitrary.
no wonder I am too scared to go out and about.
Looking around the world, healthcare workers otherwise directly exposed to SARS-CoV-2 in actively shedding patients but wearing P2~FFP2~N95~KN95~KF94~+ for the duration of the encounter seem to be almost completely protected from transmission. If someone in the community were to wear the same, in situations which are generally less likely to transmit, we suggest that they too would be almost completely protected from transmission. Life could pretty* much go back to normal.
*: in fact, better than normal, because research apparently shows that masks make people prettier
one of the advantages of masks is that you don’t have to be facially social to strangers..
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
yes in supermarkets where again you don’t really talk to anyone and you don’t really hang around strangers.. no at the sport ball stadium outside where people are in rows and screaming and shouting… it’s weird and seems very arbitrary.
no wonder I am too scared to go out and about.
Looking around the world, healthcare workers otherwise directly exposed to SARS-CoV-2 in actively shedding patients but wearing P2~FFP2~N95~KN95~KF94~+ for the duration of the encounter seem to be almost completely protected from transmission. If someone in the community were to wear the same, in situations which are generally less likely to transmit, we suggest that they too would be almost completely protected from transmission. Life could pretty* much go back to normal.
*: in fact, better than normal, because research apparently shows that masks make people prettier
so we should treat everyone like they have the virus and keep away from any peopling… now that is a theory I can support
is delta still a thing?
sarahs mum said:
is delta still a thing?
Delta-V is. Always has been.
sarahs mum said:
is delta still a thing?
I think the team is growing,
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
is delta still a thing?I think the team is growing,
Delta’s so 2021. Even Omicron is showing signs of becoming passé.
All the cool kids are just gagging for the release of the next new variant. And the news reports suggest that China is working furiously on the project.
Stay tuned for developments, fans.
sarahs mum said:
is delta still a thing?
Goodrem?
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
is delta still a thing?Goodrem?
Isn’t she up for beatification or something?
Arts said:
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
no wonder I am too scared to go out and about.
Looking around the world, healthcare workers otherwise directly exposed to SARS-CoV-2 in actively shedding patients but wearing P2~FFP2~N95~KN95~KF94~+ for the duration of the encounter seem to be almost completely protected from transmission. If someone in the community were to wear the same, in situations which are generally less likely to transmit, we suggest that they too would be almost completely protected from transmission. Life could pretty* much go back to normal.
*: in fact, better than normal, because research apparently shows that masks make people prettier
so we should treat everyone like they have the virus and keep away from any peopling… now that is a theory I can support
one of the advantages of masks is that you don’t have to be facially social to strangers..
Yes, if you choose. Much like attitudes to vaccination, you’re all correct, we’re probably at the point where enforced compliance is far less necessary.
Obviously it would be better for everyone (except psychopaths) for disease to be absent. Barring that, however, we know enough about what works and what doesn’t that the moment P2~FFP2~N95~KN95~KF94~+ are made widely available (would have been, will be, far better than wasting spending all that money on bullshit RATs* which don’t prevent fuck all) then really people are free to choose whether to protect themselves.
Back when surgical masks, even with original Wuhan strain it was really only good enough when transmitter and receiver were masked, so you still had to rely on everyone masking.
*: average price we see is that each RAT could have bought you something like 5 to 20 P2~FFP2~N95~KN95~KF94~+ masks which should last like 5 to 100 days, but hey, why not pay CHINA more right
Covid resurgence sweeping UK with infections in over-70s at record high
Older people ‘quite vulnerable’ even if they have kept up to date with vaccinations, says expert
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/18/covid-resurgence-uk-infections-record-older-people-vaccinations
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AstraZeneca’s Evusheld Covid-prevention drug gets UK approval
Treatment aimed at people who cannot be vaccinated is boost to firm’s coronavirus portfolio
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/17/astrazenecas-evusheld-covid-prevention-drug-gets-uk-approval
sarahs mum said:
Covid resurgence sweeping UK with infections in over-70s at record highOlder people ‘quite vulnerable’ even if they have kept up to date with vaccinations, says expert
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/18/covid-resurgence-uk-infections-record-older-people-vaccinations
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AstraZeneca’s Evusheld Covid-prevention drug gets UK approval
Treatment aimed at people who cannot be vaccinated is boost to firm’s coronavirus portfolio
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/17/astrazenecas-evusheld-covid-prevention-drug-gets-uk-approval
It’s almost as if they have an interest in making the pandemic last as long as possible just to maximise the grift…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-19/qld-covid19-coronavirus-pandemic-ba2-sub-variant-cases-increase/100920886
Well, it looks like SWMBO has picked up COVID from school. :( If so, makes me the only one in the family who hasn’t had it yet.
roughbarked said:
Well, it looks like SWMBO has picked up COVID from school. :( If so, makes me the only one in the family who hasn’t had it yet.
You going to keep your distance?
dv said:
roughbarked said:
Well, it looks like SWMBO has picked up COVID from school. :( If so, makes me the only one in the family who hasn’t had it yet.
You going to keep your distance?
No other choice. Might go on a fishing trip but since I haven’t eaten fish for more than 60 years, soomeone might guess.
roughbarked said:
Well, it looks like SWMBO has picked up COVID from school. :( If so, makes me the only one in the family who hasn’t had it yet.
Bugger.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Well, it looks like SWMBO has picked up COVID from school. :( If so, makes me the only one in the family who hasn’t had it yet.
Bugger.
Yair. That’s what I said.
Watching closely.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Well, it looks like SWMBO has picked up COVID from school. :( If so, makes me the only one in the family who hasn’t had it yet.
Bugger.
Yair. That’s what I said.
Watching closely.
My daughter in law in Norway has tested positive. Son was isolating in the attic but there seems no escape.
More than 30 companies to start making Pfizer’s antiviral COVID pill
March 18, 2022 — 6.53am
Geneva: Nearly three dozen companies worldwide will soon start making generic versions of Pfizer’s coronavirus pill, the UN-backed Medicines Patent Pool that negotiated the deal said on Friday AEDT.
The Medicines Patent Pool said in a statement that agreements signed with 35 companies should help make Pfizer’s antiviral nirmatrelvir, or Paxlovid, available to more than half of the world’s population.
Read more:
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/more-than-30-companies-to-start-making-pfizer-s-antiviral-covid-pill-20220318-p5a5pt.html
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
Covid resurgence sweeping UK with infections in over-70s at record high
Older people ‘quite vulnerable’ even if they have kept up to date with vaccinations, says expert
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/18/covid-resurgence-uk-infections-record-older-people-vaccinations
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AstraZeneca’s Evusheld Covid-prevention drug gets UK approval
Treatment aimed at people who cannot be vaccinated is boost to firm’s coronavirus portfolio
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/17/astrazenecas-evusheld-covid-prevention-drug-gets-uk-approval
It’s almost as if they have an interest in making the pandemic last as long as possible just to maximise the grift…
More than 30 companies to start making Pfizer’s antiviral COVID pill
March 18, 2022 — 6.53amGeneva: Nearly three dozen companies worldwide will soon start making generic versions of Pfizer’s coronavirus pill, the UN-backed Medicines Patent Pool that negotiated the deal said on Friday AEDT.
The Medicines Patent Pool said in a statement that agreements signed with 35 companies should help make Pfizer’s antiviral nirmatrelvir, or Paxlovid, available to more than half of the world’s population.
Read more:
So open up the treatment, but keep preventative measures restricted, interesting.
seeing as family slash friends* we have in NSW tell us things are back to normal**, this so-called expert is probably pulling falsified lockdown data
*: we sometimes lie, including this statement marked *
**: actually no, they tell us a whole heap of places are indefinitely shut down, but hey
Frightened yet?
mollwollfumble said:
Frightened yet?
of what
mollwollfumble said:
Frightened yet?
Of a new worldwide explosion in Covid cases.
New Zealand has one of the highest Covid case rates in the world.
Australia’s cases are on the rise again.
mollwollfumble said:
mollwollfumble said:
Frightened yet?
Of a new worldwide explosion in Covid cases.
New Zealand has one of the highest Covid case rates in the world.
Australia’s cases are on the rise again.
Of a disease that causes death and dementia and autoimmunity and functional impairment, but is preventable with the simplest of public health interventions ¿ Fuck no.
Of arseholes who refuse to implement the simplest of public health interventions, marking them instead as psychopaths who would rather see an extra 1% of the population die each year because changing anything at all would be an inconvenience ¿ Are you afraid of murderers ¿
SCIENCE said:
mollwollfumble said:
mollwollfumble said:
Frightened yet?
Of a new worldwide explosion in Covid cases.
New Zealand has one of the highest Covid case rates in the world.
Australia’s cases are on the rise again.Of a disease that causes death and dementia and autoimmunity and functional impairment, but is preventable with the simplest of public health interventions ¿ Fuck no.
Of arseholes who refuse to implement the simplest of public health interventions, marking them instead as psychopaths who would rather see an extra 1% of the population die each year because changing anything at all would be an inconvenience ¿ Are you afraid of murderers ¿
nope.. I’m more afraid of the general public
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:mollwollfumble said:
Of a new worldwide explosion in Covid cases.
New Zealand has one of the highest Covid case rates in the world.
Australia’s cases are on the rise again.Of a disease that causes death and dementia and autoimmunity and functional impairment, but is preventable with the simplest of public health interventions ¿ Fuck no.
Of arseholes who refuse to implement the simplest of public health interventions, marking them instead as psychopaths who would rather see an extra 1% of the population die each year because changing anything at all would be an inconvenience ¿ Are you afraid of murderers ¿
nope.. I’m more afraid of the general public
One of the mouthbreathers in the crib room the other day was having a whinge about having to wear masks and that “there is peer reviewed paper proving that masks don’t work”.
I usually stay out of those conversations, but this time I piped up and explained that the paper determined that masks work extremely well, and it is actually “Mask mandates” that don’t work. And the reason they don’t work is all the arseholes not wearing them because they heard somewhere that “Masks don’t work”.
I have no idea about any paper, but the best way to counter bullshit is with more bullshit. :)
Dark Orange said:
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:Of a disease that causes death and dementia and autoimmunity and functional impairment, but is preventable with the simplest of public health interventions ¿ Fuck no.
Of arseholes who refuse to implement the simplest of public health interventions, marking them instead as psychopaths who would rather see an extra 1% of the population die each year because changing anything at all would be an inconvenience ¿ Are you afraid of murderers ¿
nope.. I’m more afraid of the general public
One of the mouthbreathers in the crib room the other day was having a whinge about having to wear masks and that “there is peer reviewed paper proving that masks don’t work”.
I usually stay out of those conversations, but this time I piped up and explained that the paper determined that masks work extremely well, and it is actually “Mask mandates” that don’t work. And the reason they don’t work is all the arseholes not wearing them because they heard somewhere that “Masks don’t work”.
I have no idea about any paper, but the best way to counter bullshit is with more bullshit. :)
I have a well respected university lecturer whose twitter is full of “masks don’t work” peer reviewed research, and they are ready to rumble.. there is possibly mask don’t work researh out there, it might be quite robust.. but there is opposition to almost anything and sometimes it becomes peer reviewed research.. that’s the nice thing about research.. it proves nothing but supports theories and sometimes rejects them…
Arts said:
Dark Orange said:
Arts said:nope.. I’m more afraid of the general public
One of the mouthbreathers in the crib room the other day was having a whinge about having to wear masks and that “there is peer reviewed paper proving that masks don’t work”.
I usually stay out of those conversations, but this time I piped up and explained that the paper determined that masks work extremely well, and it is actually “Mask mandates” that don’t work. And the reason they don’t work is all the arseholes not wearing them because they heard somewhere that “Masks don’t work”.
I have no idea about any paper, but the best way to counter bullshit is with more bullshit. :)
I have a well respected university lecturer whose twitter is full of “masks don’t work” peer reviewed research, and they are ready to rumble.. there is possibly mask don’t work researh out there, it might be quite robust.. but there is opposition to almost anything and sometimes it becomes peer reviewed research.. that’s the nice thing about research.. it proves nothing but supports theories and sometimes rejects them…
That’s why I’m an engineer:
a) I’m very fucking lazy and don’t like to think.
b) When I’m right I know it and tell people that they are fucking idiots for even thinking about arguing with me.
c) Being an engineer gets the chicks.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
Dark Orange said:One of the mouthbreathers in the crib room the other day was having a whinge about having to wear masks and that “there is peer reviewed paper proving that masks don’t work”.
I usually stay out of those conversations, but this time I piped up and explained that the paper determined that masks work extremely well, and it is actually “Mask mandates” that don’t work. And the reason they don’t work is all the arseholes not wearing them because they heard somewhere that “Masks don’t work”.
I have no idea about any paper, but the best way to counter bullshit is with more bullshit. :)
I have a well respected university lecturer whose twitter is full of “masks don’t work” peer reviewed research, and they are ready to rumble.. there is possibly mask don’t work researh out there, it might be quite robust.. but there is opposition to almost anything and sometimes it becomes peer reviewed research.. that’s the nice thing about research.. it proves nothing but supports theories and sometimes rejects them…
That’s why I’m an engineer:
a) I’m very fucking lazy and don’t like to think.
b) When I’m right I know it and tell people that they are fucking idiots for even thinking about arguing with me.
c) Being an engineer gets the chicks.
for c didn’t you have to make two out of the three ladies to hang around with you?
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:I have a well respected university lecturer whose twitter is full of “masks don’t work” peer reviewed research, and they are ready to rumble.. there is possibly mask don’t work researh out there, it might be quite robust.. but there is opposition to almost anything and sometimes it becomes peer reviewed research.. that’s the nice thing about research.. it proves nothing but supports theories and sometimes rejects them…
That’s why I’m an engineer:
a) I’m very fucking lazy and don’t like to think.
b) When I’m right I know it and tell people that they are fucking idiots for even thinking about arguing with me.
c) Being an engineer gets the chicks.
for c didn’t you have to make two out of the three ladies to hang around with you?
“Make” is such a harsh word; beg, chive, implore, enjoin; surely you could have gone with such?
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Well, it looks like SWMBO has picked up COVID from school. :( If so, makes me the only one in the family who hasn’t had it yet.
Bugger.
Yair. That’s what I said.
Watching closely.
Trym and I had it worst. He went hoarse for a while. Kaya has had it the mildest so far. She bounced back next day.
I am better now. So are the kids.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:I have a well respected university lecturer whose twitter is full of “masks don’t work” peer reviewed research, and they are ready to rumble.. there is possibly mask don’t work researh out there, it might be quite robust.. but there is opposition to almost anything and sometimes it becomes peer reviewed research.. that’s the nice thing about research.. it proves nothing but supports theories and sometimes rejects them…
That’s why I’m an engineer:
a) I’m very fucking lazy and don’t like to think.
b) When I’m right I know it and tell people that they are fucking idiots for even thinking about arguing with me.
c) Being an engineer gets the chicks.
for c didn’t you have to make two out of the three ladies to hang around with you?
I was wondering about that one as well.
Medical So-Called “Experts” Are Now Expert Political Commentators As Well
In this following Twitter thread, the author describes the evolution of virus towards mildness, and the development of increasing natural immunity.
https://twitter.com/EnemyInAState/status/1505299917035782155
SCIENCE said:
Medical So-Called “Experts” Are Now Expert Political Commentators As Well
I thought this might be a factor.
Laugh Out Loud What The Fuck
University of Sydney paediatric infectious diseases expert Philip Britton said despite Omicron being highly transmissible – and a significant number of children becoming infected – it has not translated to an increase in hospitalisation or severe disease.
“While we have seen double the number of hospital admissions in under-16s during the Omicron wave compared to Delta, there has almost certainly been a fivefold increase in infections, and probably more,” Dr Britton said.
when increase doesn’t mean increase
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
Medical So-Called “Experts” Are Now Expert Political Commentators As Well
I thought this might be a factor.
well they do also have this in the thread
but then again we’re not sure what more he could have done, look what the Federal did to NSW
like we all love to point and laugh at Russia and the Soviets and how they’re nominally federal unions of multiple national republics but in practice government and economy ‘re highly centralised
QWYAA
Top US infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci is hinting at retirement as cases of COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations remain low. “I have said that I would stay in what I’m doing until we get out of the pandemic phase, and I think we might be there already,” Fauci told ABC’s “Start Here” podcast. “I can’t stay at this job forever. Unless my staff is going to find me slumped over my desk one day; I’d rather not do that,” he added,
The 81-year-old Fauci’s remarks come as he’s under fire from conservative lawmakers who feel the pandemic restrictions he’s pushed have gone too far. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has said he plans to push an amendment to remove Fauci as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases — saying no one should be “dictator in chief.”
SCIENCE said:
QWYAATop US infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci is hinting at retirement as cases of COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations remain low. “I have said that I would stay in what I’m doing until we get out of the pandemic phase, and I think we might be there already,” Fauci told ABC’s “Start Here” podcast. “I can’t stay at this job forever. Unless my staff is going to find me slumped over my desk one day; I’d rather not do that,” he added,
The 81-year-old Fauci’s remarks come as he’s under fire from conservative lawmakers who feel the pandemic restrictions he’s pushed have gone too far. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has said he plans to push an amendment to remove Fauci as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases — saying no one should be “dictator in chief.”
What’s QWYAA?
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
QWYAA
Top US infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci is hinting at retirement as cases of COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations remain low. “I have said that I would stay in what I’m doing until we get out of the pandemic phase, and I think we might be there already,” Fauci told ABC’s “Start Here” podcast. “I can’t stay at this job forever. Unless my staff is going to find me slumped over my desk one day; I’d rather not do that,” he added,
The 81-year-old Fauci’s remarks come as he’s under fire from conservative lawmakers who feel the pandemic restrictions he’s pushed have gone too far. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has said he plans to push an amendment to remove Fauci as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases — saying no one should be “dictator in chief.”
What’s QWYAA?
uit hile ou re head
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
QWYAA
Top US infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci is hinting at retirement as cases of COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations remain low. “I have said that I would stay in what I’m doing until we get out of the pandemic phase, and I think we might be there already,” Fauci told ABC’s “Start Here” podcast. “I can’t stay at this job forever. Unless my staff is going to find me slumped over my desk one day; I’d rather not do that,” he added,
The 81-year-old Fauci’s remarks come as he’s under fire from conservative lawmakers who feel the pandemic restrictions he’s pushed have gone too far. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has said he plans to push an amendment to remove Fauci as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases — saying no one should be “dictator in chief.”
What’s QWYAA?
uit hile ou re head
Ta.
we mean, the wealthy is who you want to attract, surely
SCIENCE said:
we mean, the wealthy is who you want to attract, surely
Well seeing all we want is their money…
SCIENCE said:
QWYAATop US infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci is hinting at retirement as cases of COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations remain low. “I have said that I would stay in what I’m doing until we get out of the pandemic phase, and I think we might be there already,” Fauci told ABC’s “Start Here” podcast. “I can’t stay at this job forever. Unless my staff is going to find me slumped over my desk one day; I’d rather not do that,” he added,
The 81-year-old Fauci’s remarks come as he’s under fire from conservative lawmakers who feel the pandemic restrictions he’s pushed have gone too far. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has said he plans to push an amendment to remove Fauci as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases — saying no one should be “dictator in chief.”
But but they were gung ho about having Trump as dictator in cheif.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
we mean, the wealthy is who you want to attract, surely
Well seeing all we want is their money…
and their state capture
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
QWYAA
Top US infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci is hinting at retirement as cases of COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations remain low. “I have said that I would stay in what I’m doing until we get out of the pandemic phase, and I think we might be there already,” Fauci told ABC’s “Start Here” podcast. “I can’t stay at this job forever. Unless my staff is going to find me slumped over my desk one day; I’d rather not do that,” he added,
The 81-year-old Fauci’s remarks come as he’s under fire from conservative lawmakers who feel the pandemic restrictions he’s pushed have gone too far. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has said he plans to push an amendment to remove Fauci as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases — saying no one should be “dictator in chief.”
But but they were gung ho about having Trump as dictator in cheif.
Speaking of state capture,
Today
Tamb said:
Today’s Qld:
Tamb said:
Tamb said:
Today’s Qld:
We now have nearly 10,000 active cases on the island.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Tamb said:
Today’s Qld:
We now have nearly 10,000 active cases on the island.
How are you going with ICU cases & deaths?
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Tamb said:
Today’s Qld:
We now have nearly 10,000 active cases on the island.
How are you going with ICU cases & deaths?
Currently 2 cases in ICU, 27 deaths since 2020.
https://www.coronavirus.tas.gov.au/facts/tasmanian-statistics
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:We now have nearly 10,000 active cases on the island.
How are you going with ICU cases & deaths?
Currently 2 cases in ICU, 27 deaths since 2020.
https://www.coronavirus.tas.gov.au/facts/tasmanian-statistics
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:How are you going with ICU cases & deaths?
Currently 2 cases in ICU, 27 deaths since 2020.
https://www.coronavirus.tas.gov.au/facts/tasmanian-statistics
They are brilliant figures.
Qld has had 684 deaths since the beginning of the pandemic.
We’ve done pretty well so far.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-21/2yo-child-dies-from-covid-nsw/100926296
A two-year-old child who was “previously well” has died from COVID-19 at a Sydney hospital. NSW Health will not be releasing any more information about the child because of privacy reasons
as in, there’s no more to say, oh wait no preexisting conditions, must have been a True Human, not one of those decrepits who deserved to die anyway
There is no COVID-19 vaccination approved for use for children under the age of five in Australia. In the United States, Pfizer and Moderna have been trialling vaccines for children under five. Pfizer last month asked the US Food and Drug Administration to approve the first two doses of its vaccine for young children. “The problem is that they get trying to get the dose right,” Professor Booy said.
sorry what was that, are we still trying to get the dose right for a vaccine that’s been obsolete for 4 months, nice
Per the PRB, 2021 was the dyingest year in US history
2016 : 2.744 million
2017 : 2.815 million
2018 : 2.839 million
2019 : 2.855 million
2020 : 3.698 million
2021 : 4.169 million
dv said:
Per the PRB, 2021 was the dyingest year in US history
2016 : 2.744 million
2017 : 2.815 million
2018 : 2.839 million
2019 : 2.855 million
2020 : 3.698 million
2021 : 4.169 million
According to Worldometer, only about 500,000 of those were due to covid.
I wonder how many are due to a boomer death boom.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:Per the PRB, 2021 was the dyingest year in US history
2016 : 2.744 million
2017 : 2.815 million
2018 : 2.839 million
2019 : 2.855 million
2020 : 3.698 million
2021 : 4.169 million
According to Worldometer, only about 500,000 of those were due to covid.
I wonder how many are due to a boomer death boom.
It doesn’t happen that suddenly…
There are about 1.5 million excess deaths in the US during the covid era, compared to about a million confirmed covid deaths. There have been various proposed reasons for the gap. Two major factors are a) people dying from Covid without ever being tested and b) people dying without a Covid infection but because of Covid related lack of access to medical help. It is known that some jurisdictions made decisions that undercounted the number of covid related deaths eg not mentioning Covid on death certs in cases where it was clearly a factor.
SCIENCE said:
Top And Leading Experts Who Rightly Told Us The Pandemic Was Over 5 Times Start Doing Some Acrobatics
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-21/2yo-child-dies-from-covid-nsw/100926296
A two-year-old child who was “previously well” has died from COVID-19 at a Sydney hospital. NSW Health will not be releasing any more information about the child because of privacy reasons
as in, there’s no more to say, oh wait no preexisting conditions, must have been a True Human, not one of those decrepits who deserved to die anyway
There is no COVID-19 vaccination approved for use for children under the age of five in Australia. In the United States, Pfizer and Moderna have been trialling vaccines for children under five. Pfizer last month asked the US Food and Drug Administration to approve the first two doses of its vaccine for young children. “The problem is that they get trying to get the dose right,” Professor Booy said.
sorry what was that, are we still trying to get the dose right for a vaccine that’s been obsolete for 4 months, nice
Are you enjoying endemic covid?
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:Top And Leading Experts Who Rightly Told Us The Pandemic Was Over 5 Times Start Doing Some Acrobatics
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-21/2yo-child-dies-from-covid-nsw/100926296
A two-year-old child who was “previously well” has died from COVID-19 at a Sydney hospital. NSW Health will not be releasing any more information about the child because of privacy reasons
as in, there’s no more to say, oh wait no preexisting conditions, must have been a True Human, not one of those decrepits who deserved to die anyway
There is no COVID-19 vaccination approved for use for children under the age of five in Australia. In the United States, Pfizer and Moderna have been trialling vaccines for children under five. Pfizer last month asked the US Food and Drug Administration to approve the first two doses of its vaccine for young children. “The problem is that they get trying to get the dose right,” Professor Booy said.
sorry what was that, are we still trying to get the dose right for a vaccine that’s been obsolete for 4 months, nice
Are you enjoying endemic covid?
It’s the reason he gets up in the morning.
Four Corners
Monday 21st March at 8:33 pm (55 minutes)
Despair And Defiance: Four Corners takes you into a city under siege – Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine. Sarah Ferguson reports on the despair and defiance of the Ukrainian people resisting the Russian invasion.
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:Top And Leading Experts Who Rightly Told Us The Pandemic Was Over 5 Times Start Doing Some Acrobatics
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-21/2yo-child-dies-from-covid-nsw/100926296
A two-year-old child who was “previously well” has died from COVID-19 at a Sydney hospital. NSW Health will not be releasing any more information about the child because of privacy reasons
as in, there’s no more to say, oh wait no preexisting conditions, must have been a True Human, not one of those decrepits who deserved to die anyway
There is no COVID-19 vaccination approved for use for children under the age of five in Australia. In the United States, Pfizer and Moderna have been trialling vaccines for children under five. Pfizer last month asked the US Food and Drug Administration to approve the first two doses of its vaccine for young children. “The problem is that they get trying to get the dose right,” Professor Booy said.
sorry what was that, are we still trying to get the dose right for a vaccine that’s been obsolete for 4 months, nice
Are you enjoying endemic covid?
It’s the reason he gets up in the morning.
Everyone needs a hobby I guess.
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
Are you enjoying endemic covid?
It’s the reason he gets up in the morning.
Everyone needs a hobby I guess.
We’re not the ones whinging and crying about wearing face diapers or having to work from home instead of fighting into and out of the office ¡
dv said:
excess deaths
what propaganda is this “excess” crap
they’re necessary deaths
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
excess deaths
what propaganda is this “excess” crap
they’re necessary deaths
Special military deaths.
don’t worry all going according to plan
interestingly, they’re unmasked
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
interestingly, they’re unmasked
No context, so no idea why.
Link under pink comma.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-21/china-eastern-airlines-passenger-jet-accident/100928004
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
interestingly, they’re unmasked
No context, so no idea why.
Link under pink comma.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-21/china-eastern-airlines-passenger-jet-accident/100928004
I didn’t see any pink comma. I suppose colour vision deficiency does that. Thanks. It appears to be a stock photo, so likely taken before the pandemic.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:No context, so no idea why.
Link under pink comma.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-21/china-eastern-airlines-passenger-jet-accident/100928004
I didn’t see any pink comma. I suppose colour vision deficiency does that. Thanks. It appears to be a stock photo, so likely taken before the pandemic.
It didn’t exactly leap out for me either :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Link under pink comma.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-21/china-eastern-airlines-passenger-jet-accident/100928004
I didn’t see any pink comma. I suppose colour vision deficiency does that. Thanks. It appears to be a stock photo, so likely taken before the pandemic.
It didn’t exactly leap out for me either :)
we mean COVIDamn, won’t be needing masks after one of these
that’s not a strela
poikilotherm said:
Are you enjoying endemic covid?
ahahahahahahaha
lovin’it
hahahahahahahah
South Australia’s new Premier says health officials reimposed, but did not announce, a ban on some elective surgery in public hospitals on the eve of the election.
Peter Malinauskas has also unveiled new government modelling, which he says shows the state could reach 8,000 new daily COVID-19 cases by April. Adult COVID-19 hospitalisations could reach more than 200, he said. Such a daily caseload would exceed January’s COVID-19 peak.
how convenient, healthcare is not political so announcing something isn’t appropriate, but doing something without announcing it is
ahahahahahahaha
endemic
remember how some geniuses were talking about masks and clean air and preventing infection
oh, wait
for 2 years
SCIENCE said:
remember how some geniuses were talking about masks and clean air and preventing infection
oh, wait for 2 years
or forever
Here is a link to the latest risk classification tool (pdf) for adults with mild COVID 19from the National COVID19 Clinical Evidence Taskforce.
https://covid19evidence.net.au/wp-content/uploads/NC19CET_Risk_Classification_Tool.pdf?=220321-14613
There is other stuff at their main page:
https://covid19evidence.net.au/
buffy said:
Here is a link to the latest risk classification tool (pdf) for adults with mild COVID 19from the National COVID19 Clinical Evidence Taskforce.https://covid19evidence.net.au/wp-content/uploads/NC19CET_Risk_Classification_Tool.pdf?=220321-14613
There is other stuff at their main page:
https://covid19evidence.net.au/
Thanks.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Here is a link to the latest risk classification tool (pdf) for adults with mild COVID 19from the National COVID19 Clinical Evidence Taskforce.https://covid19evidence.net.au/wp-content/uploads/NC19CET_Risk_Classification_Tool.pdf?=220321-14613
There is other stuff at their main page:
https://covid19evidence.net.au/
Thanks.
Qld figures:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:Per the PRB, 2021 was the dyingest year in US history
2016 : 2.744 million
2017 : 2.815 million
2018 : 2.839 million
2019 : 2.855 million
2020 : 3.698 million
2021 : 4.169 million
According to Worldometer, only about 500,000 of those were due to covid.
I wonder how many are due to a boomer death boom.
It doesn’t happen that suddenly…
There are about 1.5 million excess deaths in the US during the covid era, compared to about a million confirmed covid deaths. There have been various proposed reasons for the gap. Two major factors are a) people dying from Covid without ever being tested and b) people dying without a Covid infection but because of Covid related lack of access to medical help. It is known that some jurisdictions made decisions that undercounted the number of covid related deaths eg not mentioning Covid on death certs in cases where it was clearly a factor.
Seems then that US suffered a natural decrease in population in 2021 (though I don’t have immigration figures to hand so there may not have been an actual decrease in population)
dv said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:According to Worldometer, only about 500,000 of those were due to covid.
I wonder how many are due to a boomer death boom.
It doesn’t happen that suddenly…
There are about 1.5 million excess deaths in the US during the covid era, compared to about a million confirmed covid deaths. There have been various proposed reasons for the gap. Two major factors are a) people dying from Covid without ever being tested and b) people dying without a Covid infection but because of Covid related lack of access to medical help. It is known that some jurisdictions made decisions that undercounted the number of covid related deaths eg not mentioning Covid on death certs in cases where it was clearly a factor.
Seems then that US suffered a natural decrease in population in 2021 (though I don’t have immigration figures to hand so there may not have been an actual decrease in population)
Most Advanced Economy In World Enjoys Sudden Boost To Living Standards With Massive Jump In Income Per Capita
SCIENCE said:
poikilotherm said:
Are you enjoying endemic covid?
ahahahahahahaha
lovin’it
hahahahahahahah
South Australia’s new Premier says health officials reimposed, but did not announce, a ban on some elective surgery in public hospitals on the eve of the election.
schools anecdotes lies
PLANNEDEMIC
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47201923
at the time, it was believably reported that
Mr Hegseth later told USA Today that his remarks were intended to be a joke.
Comparison of Self-harm or Overdose Among Adolescents and Young Adults Before vs During the COVID-19 Pandemic in Ontario
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2787976
Self-harm and deaths among adolescents and young adults are notably related to drug poisonings and suicide. With the emergence of the COVID-19 pandemic, there are projections about a greater likelihood of such events arising among adolescents and young adults.
Among adolescents and young adults, the initial 15-month period of the COVID-19 pandemic was associated with a relative decline in hospital care for self-harm or overdose.
Laugh Out Loud
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud
Risks and burdens of incident diabetes in long COVID: a cohort study
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(22)00044-4/fulltext
In the post-acute phase of the disease, compared with the contemporary control group, people with COVID-19 exhibited an increased risk (HR 1·40, 95% CI 1·36–1·44) and excess burden (13·46, 95% CI 12·11–14·84, per 1000 people at 12 months) of incident diabetes; and an increased risk (1·85, 1·78–1·92) and excess burden (12·35, 11·36–13·38) of incident antihyperglycaemic use. Additionally, analyses to estimate the risk of a composite endpoint of incident diabetes or antihyperglycaemic use yielded a HR of 1·46 (95% CI 1·43–1·50) and an excess burden of 18·03 (95% CI 16·59–19·51) per 1000 people at 12 months. Risks and burdens of post-acute outcomes increased in a graded fashion according to the severity of the acute phase of COVID-19 (whether patients were non-hospitalised, hospitalised, or admitted to intensive care). All the results were consistent in analyses using the historical control as the reference category.
ahahahahahaha
oh and those are tight confidence intervals there, must have been a big count
a cohort of 181 280 participants who had a positive COVID-19 test between March 1, 2020, and Sept 30, 2021, and survived the first 30 days of COVID-19; a contemporary control (n=4 118 441) that enrolled participants between March 1, 2020, and Sept 30, 2021; and a historical control (n=4 286 911) that enrolled participants between March 1, 2018, and Sept 30, 2019. Both control groups had no evidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection. Participants in all three comparison groups were free of diabetes before cohort entry
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
remember how some geniuses were talking about masks and clean air and preventing infection
oh, wait for 2 years
or forever
Imagine Supplying Schools With Clean Toilets And Water Supply
ROME, March 22 (Reuters) – An Italian study published on Tuesday suggests that efficient ventilation systems can reduce the transmission of COVID-19 in schools by more than 80%. An experiment overseen by the Hume foundation think-tank compared coronavirus contagion in 10,441 classrooms in Italy’s central Marche region. COVID infections were steeply lower in the 316 classrooms that had mechanical ventilation systems, with the reduction in cases more marked according to the strength of the systems. With applications guaranteeing a complete replacement of the air in a classroom 2.4 times in an hour, infections were reduced by 40%. They were lowered by 66.8% with four air replacements per hour and by 82.5% with six air replacements, the study showed.
Most of Italy’s schools lack mechanical ventilation systems. Instead, teachers are urged to keep windows open when weather conditions permit. If the most efficient systems were installed “we could pass from 250 cases per 100,000 students (the alert level set by the education ministry) to a rate of 50 per 100,000,” the Hume foundation and the Marche regional government said in its press release.
It’s taken more than 2 years, but it’ll get me in the end.
A work colleague has tested +ve, that I’ve been in “close contact” with since the beginning of the week. sharing the same small room at our temporary office, (permanent one closed due to the floods. Yep they found asbestos under the carpet under the lino, under the tiles, when they ripped the flooring out. Won’t be habitable for at least 4 – 5 weeks).
So………………. it’s 7 days self isolating for me as a work directive. Sorta “work from home” status.
Should I panic? RAT test every hour? Finalise my affairs and prepare for an imminent death?😮😮
Woodie said:
It’s taken more than 2 years, but it’ll get me in the end.A work colleague has tested +ve, that I’ve been in “close contact” with since the beginning of the week. sharing the same small room at our temporary office, (permanent one closed due to the floods. Yep they found asbestos under the carpet under the lino, under the tiles, when they ripped the flooring out. Won’t be habitable for at least 4 – 5 weeks).
So………………. it’s 7 days self isolating for me as a work directive. Sorta “work from home” status.
Should I panic? RAT test every hour? Finalise my affairs and prepare for an imminent death?😮😮
Better got on and draw up my Last Will and Testament.
So who wants my stuff?
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
It’s taken more than 2 years, but it’ll get me in the end.A work colleague has tested +ve, that I’ve been in “close contact” with since the beginning of the week. sharing the same small room at our temporary office, (permanent one closed due to the floods. Yep they found asbestos under the carpet under the lino, under the tiles, when they ripped the flooring out. Won’t be habitable for at least 4 – 5 weeks).
So………………. it’s 7 days self isolating for me as a work directive. Sorta “work from home” status.
Should I panic? RAT test every hour? Finalise my affairs and prepare for an imminent death?😮😮
Better got on and draw up my Last Will and Testament.
So who wants my stuff?
I’ll helpfully accept your stuff, but I suspect you won’t be needing to part with it any time soon.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
It’s taken more than 2 years, but it’ll get me in the end.A work colleague has tested +ve, that I’ve been in “close contact” with since the beginning of the week. sharing the same small room at our temporary office, (permanent one closed due to the floods. Yep they found asbestos under the carpet under the lino, under the tiles, when they ripped the flooring out. Won’t be habitable for at least 4 – 5 weeks).
So………………. it’s 7 days self isolating for me as a work directive. Sorta “work from home” status.
Should I panic? RAT test every hour? Finalise my affairs and prepare for an imminent death?😮😮
Better got on and draw up my Last Will and Testament.
So who wants my stuff?
I’ll helpfully accept your stuff, but I suspect you won’t be needing to part with it any time soon.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
It’s taken more than 2 years, but it’ll get me in the end.A work colleague has tested +ve, that I’ve been in “close contact” with since the beginning of the week. sharing the same small room at our temporary office, (permanent one closed due to the floods. Yep they found asbestos under the carpet under the lino, under the tiles, when they ripped the flooring out. Won’t be habitable for at least 4 – 5 weeks).
So………………. it’s 7 days self isolating for me as a work directive. Sorta “work from home” status.
Should I panic? RAT test every hour? Finalise my affairs and prepare for an imminent death?😮😮
Better got on and draw up my Last Will and Testament.
So who wants my stuff?
I’ll helpfully accept your stuff, but I suspect you won’t be needing to part with it any time soon.
You’re such an optimist.
Gone within the next 50 years is my prediction.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
It’s taken more than 2 years, but it’ll get me in the end.A work colleague has tested +ve, that I’ve been in “close contact” with since the beginning of the week. sharing the same small room at our temporary office, (permanent one closed due to the floods. Yep they found asbestos under the carpet under the lino, under the tiles, when they ripped the flooring out. Won’t be habitable for at least 4 – 5 weeks).
So………………. it’s 7 days self isolating for me as a work directive. Sorta “work from home” status.
Should I panic? RAT test every hour? Finalise my affairs and prepare for an imminent death?😮😮
Better got on and draw up my Last Will and Testament.
So who wants my stuff?
I’ll helpfully accept your stuff, but I suspect you won’t be needing to part with it any time soon.
There’s stuff you can have right now, Parpyone. How bout a sink full of dirty dishes???
I hearby bequeath, as my last will and testament, to Mr Parpyone. All my dirty dishes. 😁
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:Better got on and draw up my Last Will and Testament.
So who wants my stuff?
I’ll helpfully accept your stuff, but I suspect you won’t be needing to part with it any time soon.
There’s stuff you can have right now, Parpyone. How bout a sink full of dirty dishes???
I hearby bequeath, as my last will and testament, to Mr Parpyone. All my dirty dishes. 😁
No thanks, I’ve just finished clearing mine.
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:I’ll helpfully accept your stuff, but I suspect you won’t be needing to part with it any time soon.
There’s stuff you can have right now, Parpyone. How bout a sink full of dirty dishes???
I hearby bequeath, as my last will and testament, to Mr Parpyone. All my dirty dishes. 😁
No thanks, I’ve just finished clearing mine.
I do like this fab quote of Joyce Myer.😁
“Don’t even think you can have authority over evil and the devil, when you don’t even have authority over a sink full of dirty dishes”
https://www.facebook.com/joycemeyerministries/videos/dirty-dishes-cant-defeat-you/802300906898076/
23 secs.
Dirty dishes? It’s a sin, I tells ya, hey what but!!
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:There’s stuff you can have right now, Parpyone. How bout a sink full of dirty dishes???
I hearby bequeath, as my last will and testament, to Mr Parpyone. All my dirty dishes. 😁
No thanks, I’ve just finished clearing mine.
I do like this fab quote of Joyce Myer.😁
“Don’t even think you can have authority over evil and the devil, when you don’t even have authority over a sink full of dirty dishes”
https://www.facebook.com/joycemeyerministries/videos/dirty-dishes-cant-defeat-you/802300906898076/
23 secs.
Dirty dishes? It’s a sin, I tells ya, hey what but!!
I suppose superstition + modesty sounds more credible to her followers than superstition alone.
South Australia’s incoming health minister Chris Picton says the jobs of departmental chief executives will be up for discussion over coming days. He told ABC Radio Adelaide this morning the decision about whether to reappoint chief executives was up to Premier Peter Malinauskas, who will be considering his options.
Mr Malinauskas spoke alongside SA Health chief executive Chris McGowan yesterday, revealing elective surgery cancellations had started due to an expected COVID-19 case surge on Friday but were not announced. Mr McGowan said no announcement was made because the government was in caretaker mode ahead of the election. He claimed the cancellations only applied at one hospital.
Mr Picton would not say if Dr McGowan would remain in his job.
nice, we guess if it really was because the government was in caretaker mode ahead of the election, then any announcement would reflect only the caretaker modes and not on any actual government, so they should have told people
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:No thanks, I’ve just finished clearing mine.
I do like this fab quote of Joyce Myer.😁
“Don’t even think you can have authority over evil and the devil, when you don’t even have authority over a sink full of dirty dishes”
https://www.facebook.com/joycemeyerministries/videos/dirty-dishes-cant-defeat-you/802300906898076/
23 secs.
Dirty dishes? It’s a sin, I tells ya, hey what but!!
I suppose superstition + modesty sounds more credible to her followers than superstition alone.
Dirty dishes are the work of the devil, Parpyone. The boogeyman is alive and well in religion and politics and scares the shit out of the masses, it does. Ask any politician. Works a treat, it does.
Woodie said:
It’s taken more than 2 years, but it’ll get me in the end.A work colleague has tested +ve, that I’ve been in “close contact” with since the beginning of the week. sharing the same small room at our temporary office, (permanent one closed due to the floods. Yep they found asbestos under the carpet under the lino, under the tiles, when they ripped the flooring out. Won’t be habitable for at least 4 – 5 weeks).
So………………. it’s 7 days self isolating for me as a work directive. Sorta “work from home” status.
Should I panic? RAT test every hour? Finalise my affairs and prepare for an imminent death?😮😮
All of the above!
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
It’s taken more than 2 years, but it’ll get me in the end.A work colleague has tested +ve, that I’ve been in “close contact” with since the beginning of the week. sharing the same small room at our temporary office, (permanent one closed due to the floods. Yep they found asbestos under the carpet under the lino, under the tiles, when they ripped the flooring out. Won’t be habitable for at least 4 – 5 weeks).
So………………. it’s 7 days self isolating for me as a work directive. Sorta “work from home” status.
Should I panic? RAT test every hour? Finalise my affairs and prepare for an imminent death?😮😮
Better got on and draw up my Last Will and Testament.
So who wants my stuff?
I want your wind-up bench for starters.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:Better got on and draw up my Last Will and Testament.
So who wants my stuff?
I’ll helpfully accept your stuff, but I suspect you won’t be needing to part with it any time soon.
I wouldn’t mind your sense of humour.
LOLOL
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:There’s stuff you can have right now, Parpyone. How bout a sink full of dirty dishes???
I hearby bequeath, as my last will and testament, to Mr Parpyone. All my dirty dishes. 😁
No thanks, I’ve just finished clearing mine.
I do like this fab quote of Joyce Myer.😁
“Don’t even think you can have authority over evil and the devil, when you don’t even have authority over a sink full of dirty dishes”
https://www.facebook.com/joycemeyerministries/videos/dirty-dishes-cant-defeat-you/802300906898076/
23 secs.
Dirty dishes? It’s a sin, I tells ya, hey what but!!
Oh sinner man,
where you gunna run to…
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:No thanks, I’ve just finished clearing mine.
I do like this fab quote of Joyce Myer.😁
“Don’t even think you can have authority over evil and the devil, when you don’t even have authority over a sink full of dirty dishes”
https://www.facebook.com/joycemeyerministries/videos/dirty-dishes-cant-defeat-you/802300906898076/
23 secs.
Dirty dishes? It’s a sin, I tells ya, hey what but!!
Oh sinner man,
where you gunna run to…
Oh synonym.
Oh cinnamon.
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
It’s taken more than 2 years, but it’ll get me in the end.A work colleague has tested +ve, that I’ve been in “close contact” with since the beginning of the week. sharing the same small room at our temporary office, (permanent one closed due to the floods. Yep they found asbestos under the carpet under the lino, under the tiles, when they ripped the flooring out. Won’t be habitable for at least 4 – 5 weeks).
So………………. it’s 7 days self isolating for me as a work directive. Sorta “work from home” status.
Should I panic? RAT test every hour? Finalise my affairs and prepare for an imminent death?😮😮
Better got on and draw up my Last Will and Testament.
So who wants my stuff?
I want your wind-up bench for starters.
It’s made out of a hospital bed. I may need it. 😮
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:I do like this fab quote of Joyce Myer.😁
“Don’t even think you can have authority over evil and the devil, when you don’t even have authority over a sink full of dirty dishes”
https://www.facebook.com/joycemeyerministries/videos/dirty-dishes-cant-defeat-you/802300906898076/
23 secs.
Dirty dishes? It’s a sin, I tells ya, hey what but!!
Oh sinner man,
where you gunna run to…
Oh synonym.
Oh cinnamon.
Or “Downpressor Man” (Tosh & Marley).
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:Better got on and draw up my Last Will and Testament.
So who wants my stuff?
I want your wind-up bench for starters.
It’s made out of a hospital bed. I may need it. 😮
Bugger.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:Better got on and draw up my Last Will and Testament.
So who wants my stuff?
I’ll helpfully accept your stuff, but I suspect you won’t be needing to part with it any time soon.
There’s stuff you can have right now, Parpyone. How bout a sink full of dirty dishes???
I hearby bequeath, as my last will and testament, to Mr Parpyone. All my dirty dishes. 😁
:)
You got a boat?someone should stand up for the rights of these poor animals, they’re being 5G inoculated against their will for a mild disease that doesn’t even kill humans
PAID journal is throwing this bait out there for Arts
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886921006267
Brazil is one of the epicenters of the COVID-19 pandemic (i.e., 563,470 deaths until August 9th, 2021). Since the Brazilian government is partly struggling and partly unwilling to control the pandemic, staying healthy falls almost exclusively to the population. Therefore, it is crucial to understand the predictive role of personality traits to explain the willingness to combat the COVID-19 virus. In the present study (N = 496), we investigated the Dark Pentad traits: Machiavellianism, narcissism, psychopathy, sadism, and spitefulness. Our findings revealed that the first four traits were consistently negatively associated with various measures that indicate whether the pandemic is taken seriously, such as the perceived severity of COVID-19 and intentions to act against COVID-19. Structural equation modeling further showed that general COVID-19 worry mediated the link between the Dark Pentad and adaptive and maladaptive responses. Our results indicate that all dark traits are associated with unsocial behaviors, but their relative importance varies depending on the outcome variable.
White House officials say U.S. has exhausted funds to buy potential fourth vaccine dose for all Americans
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/03/22/funding-fourth-vaccine-doses/
Federal officials have secured enough doses to cover a fourth shot for Americans age 65 and older as well as the initial regimen for children under 5, should regulators determine those shots are necessary, said three officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity to detail funding decisions. But the officials say they cannot place advance orders for additional vaccine doses for those in other age groups, unless Congress passes a stalled $15 billion funding package.
relying on vaccines to solve a mild head cold seems to have worked quite well
When Jen Martin tested positive for COVID-19 in early February, she was surprised by just how unwell she felt. “I certainly felt worse than I had expected to, having heard all of the stories about it being mild.”
“In the early days, the cause was obvious — I couldn’t stop coughing,” she says. “But even since I’ve stopped coughing, I’ve noticed this very, very interrupted sleep pattern.” Jen says she’s able to fall asleep reasonably quickly, but often finds herself awake two hours later.
mild
and endemic
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:
Top And Leading Experts Who Rightly Told Us The Pandemic Was Over 5 Times Start Doing Some Acrobatics
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-21/2yo-child-dies-from-covid-nsw/100926296
A two-year-old child who was “previously well” has died from COVID-19 at a Sydney hospital. NSW Health will not be releasing any more information about the child because of privacy reasons
as in, there’s no more to say, oh wait no preexisting conditions, must have been a True Human, not one of those decrepits who deserved to die anyway
There is no COVID-19 vaccination approved for use for children under the age of five in Australia. In the United States, Pfizer and Moderna have been trialling vaccines for children under five. Pfizer last month asked the US Food and Drug Administration to approve the first two doses of its vaccine for young children. “The problem is that they get trying to get the dose right,” Professor Booy said.
sorry what was that, are we still trying to get the dose right for a vaccine that’s been obsolete for 4 months, nice
Are you enjoying endemic covid?
It’s the reason he gets up in the morning.
ahahahahahaha
The New South Wales coroner has confirmed that COVID-19 was responsible for the death of a two-month-old baby at Newcastle’s John Hunter Hospital in December.
tell you who else is really enjoying
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
Are you enjoying endemic covid?
It’s the reason he gets up in the morning.
ahahahahahaha
The New South Wales coroner has confirmed that COVID-19 was responsible for the death of a two-month-old baby at Newcastle’s John Hunter Hospital in December.
tell you who else is really enjoying
- The baby was infected with the Omicron variant
- The coroner found it had no other other underlying health conditions
- Moderna is seeking approval for a vaccine for very young children
tell me that’s not told-you-so-glee
dv said:
Looks like not much has changed.
dv said:
LOL
Michael V said:
dv said:
Looks like not much has changed.
Filthy then, filthy now.
I cant stand it.
Washes hands, has shower, scrubs all over, takes out lungs scrubs them, puts back in, washes hands again, puts on mask.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
LOL
You may laugh, but you do realise it is your job to report this stuff?
Authoritarian Communists In Western Australia Abuse Parliamentary Majority To Violate Bodily Right To Self Determination
“I do not understand these Instagram influencers … who go out there, because it is idiotic.”
SCIENCE said:
Authoritarian Communists In Western Australia Abuse Parliamentary Majority To Violate Bodily Right To Self Determination“I do not understand these Instagram influencers … who go out there, because it is idiotic.”
I went there before Instagram and influencers. Lovely gorges. It will never be cleaned up. Too expensive and just not possible.
ChrispenEvan said:
SCIENCE said:
Authoritarian Communists In Western Australia Abuse Parliamentary Majority To Violate Bodily Right To Self Determination“I do not understand these Instagram influencers … who go out there, because it is idiotic.”
I went there before Instagram and influencers. Lovely gorges. It will never be cleaned up. Too expensive and just not possible.
Various companies in Europe are using robots to clean up asbestos
Here is one
BOTS2REC, robotic system for the automated removal of asbestos contamination
https://robotnik.eu/bots2rec-robotic-system-used-for-the-automated-removal-of-asbestos-contamination/
The USA also passed one million COVID deaths today.
Or yesterday, depending on the time zone, etc.
Spiny Norman said:
The USA also passed one million COVID deaths today.
Or yesterday, depending on the time zone, etc.
Just impossible to imagine.
Bubblecar said:
Spiny Norman said:
The USA also passed one million COVID deaths today.
Or yesterday, depending on the time zone, etc.
Just impossible to imagine.
That is also the official count. In reality the likelihood is quite a few more.
And so many of them either disbelieve or do not care.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Spiny Norman said:
The USA also passed one million COVID deaths today.
Or yesterday, depending on the time zone, etc.
Just impossible to imagine.
That is also the official count. In reality the likelihood is quite a few more.
And so many of them either disbelieve or do not care.
Yep. The count on Worldometer is about 6.1 million deaths. There’s other estimates that reckon it could be 19 million.
sarahs mum said:
so many of them either disbelieve or do not care.
shrug not much mask use in this corner of the desert shrug
Communists Pat Selves On Backs And Gloat About Saving Money When Everyone Knows That Pouring Funding Into Useless Testing Theatre Is Optimal Strategy For The Economy Must Grow
Self-Defeating Virus Prevents Lung Growth In Human Fetuses, Thereby Decreasing Its Own Ability To Expand To New Host Substrate After They Are Born
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(22)00060-1/fulltext
In pregnant women who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, normalised fetal lung volume was significantly reduced compared with age-adjusted reference values,4
in the absence of structural abnormalities or organ infarction, and was unexplained by differences in somatic growth (84% vs 24% of 50th percentile reference; p<0·0001; figure). The timepoint of infection showed significant effects on fetal lung growth, with reduced lung volumes observed with SARS-CoV-2 infections acquired during the third trimester (69% vs 91% of 50th percentile reference in the first or second trimester; p=0·0249; figure).
Scholarly estimates put China’s death toll at over 1 million. Their official stats say about 17.
party_pants said:
Scholarly estimates put China’s death toll at over 1 million. Their official stats say about 17.
No, it’s 3. Hong Kong isn’t part of China when it comes to this.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Scholarly estimates put China’s death toll at over 1 million. Their official stats say about 17.
No, it’s 3. Hong Kong isn’t part of China when it comes to this.
well we haven’t heard from anyone who died of COVID-19 in CHINA so there’s that
disclaimer: we don’t personally know 0.1% of their population
speaking of dodgy data-falsifying countries
Sweden’s announcement that Anders Tegnell, the mastermind behind the Scandinavian country’s controversial Covid-19 strategy, had been hired by the World Health Organization has turned out to be premature. The March 9 report by Sweden’s Public Health Agency FHM said that Tegnell had resigned as state epidemiologist to become a senior expert in a group that will coordinate the work between the WHO, the UN Children’s Fund UNICEF and vaccine organization Gavi. Svenska Dagbladet first reported that the announcement was met with “surprise and confusion” within the WHO.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Scholarly estimates put China’s death toll at over 1 million. Their official stats say about 17.
No, it’s 3. Hong Kong isn’t part of China when it comes to this.
Look, no-one in China Died, got that? No-one. OK, someone ate an anteater with membranous wings or something in Hunan or Wuhu or Pingpong or wherever, and they got the runs for a few days, but that was it, ok?
No-one died. Wasn’t that bad. Seen worse after a works picnic.
Word from Beijing is that if you have any different ideas about it, there’s a room reservation at the Xinjiang Hilton with your name on it, understand?
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Scholarly estimates put China’s death toll at over 1 million. Their official stats say about 17.
No, it’s 3. Hong Kong isn’t part of China when it comes to this.
my bad :)
More Good News You All Wanted To Read
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.23.22272811v1
We leveraged a large prospective cohort of the UK biobank (UKBB) (N=412,096; current age 50-87) to identify associations of COVID-19 with hospitalization and mortality due to different diseases post-infection. We conducted a comprehensive survey on disorders from all systems (up to 135 disease categories).
Compared to individuals with no known history of COVID-19, those with severe COVID-19 (requiring hospitalization) exhibited higher hazards of hospitalization and/or mortality due to multiple disorders (median follow-up=608 days), including disorders of respiratory, cardiovascular, neurological, gastrointestinal, genitourinary and musculoskeletal systems. Increased hazards of hospitalizations and/or mortality were also observed for injuries due to fractures, various infections and other non-specific symptoms. These results remained largely consistent after sensitivity analyses.
Severe COVID-19 was also associated with increased all-cause mortality (HR=14.700, 95% CI: 13.835-15.619). Mild (non-hospitalized) COVID-19 was associated with modestly increased risk of all-cause mortality (HR=1.237, 95% CI 1.037-1.476) and mortality from neurocognitive disorders (HR=9.100, 95% CI: 5.590-14.816), as well as hospital admission from a few disorders such as aspiration pneumonitis, musculoskeletal pain and other general signs/symptoms.
In conclusion, this study revealed increased risk of hospitalization and mortality from a wide variety of pulmonary and extra-pulmonary diseases after COVID-19, especially for severe infections. Mild disease was also associated with increased all-cause mortality.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/wellbeing/2022/03/24/indigenous-plant-covid-19-vaccine/
SA Labor Try To Get Federal Corruption Reelected
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-25/sa-changes-covid-close-contact-and-isolation-rules/100939052
“This is about bringing South Australia into line with the rest of the nation,” Premier Peter Malinauskas said.
Chief Public Health Officer Professor Nicola Spurrier said the state was in a “BA.2 wave”, and relaxing both masks and close contact rules now would result in a “significant” increase in cases and hospitalisations.
before you all go on about our biased support for right wing Corruption parties by leaving it out
However, she said South Australians could feel “fairly confident” about the mask rules being relaxed at Easter, after the peak of the wave.
wouldn’t be our recommendation but fk hey we aren’t any Chief Public Health Officer Professor so whatever
nice trends
especially nice confidence intervals
SCIENCE said:
Communists Pat Selves On Backs And Gloat About Saving Money When Everyone Knows That Pouring Funding Into Useless Testing Theatre Is Optimal Strategy For The Economy Must Grow
Knew It, They Were Just Selling Their Next Product
https://www.vic.gov.au/business-stimulus-package#ventilation-voucher-program
QWYAA
look at these Chinese racists concealing their true death count
Yesterday morning I didn’t know anyone in WA with COVID except for Robadob.
As of today, my brother in-law, my sister, my niece, my nephew, and Ms Kingys niece all have it or are about to be confirmed with it.
F#@k.
fun fun fun
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4063036
Interpretation: The intrinsic severity of Omicron BA.2 is not mild as evident by the fatality and severe complications of the uninfected and unvaccinated children.
but it was written by a bunch of ASIANS in Communist CHINA so probably lies
Kingy said:
Yesterday morning I didn’t know anyone in WA with COVID except for Robadob.
As of today, my brother in-law, my sister, my niece, my nephew, and Ms Kingys niece all have it or are about to be confirmed with it.
F#@k.
I tested -ve this arvo, after spending two days in close proximity to a +ve work colleague for two days.
Woodie said:
I tested -ve this arvo, after spending two days in close proximity to a +ve work colleague for two days.
I hope these -ve trends continue.
we are all going to test again tomorrow… the children and I are still asymptomatic… the MrArts is still self isolating and still showing signs of symptom with a runny nose and sneezing. I just got him. beer though and put it on the floor in the doorway.. he must not want it because it’s still there…
:)
SCIENCE said:
SA Labor Try To Get Federal Corruption Reelectedhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-25/sa-changes-covid-close-contact-and-isolation-rules/100939052
“This is about bringing South Australia into line with the rest of the nation,” Premier Peter Malinauskas said.
Chief Public Health Officer Professor Nicola Spurrier said the state was in a “BA.2 wave”, and relaxing both masks and close contact rules now would result in a “significant” increase in cases and hospitalisations.
before you all go on about our biased support for right wing Corruption parties by leaving it out
However, she said South Australians could feel “fairly confident” about the mask rules being relaxed at Easter, after the peak of the wave.
wouldn’t be our recommendation but fk hey we aren’t any Chief Public Health Officer Professor so whatever
covid’s exploding here, the derrr multiplied, breeding the shit, part of the global project
Shanghai becomes China’s COVID epicenter as cases surge
Financial hub denies ‘rumors’ of plans for a citywide lockdown
CK TAN, Nikkei staff writer
March 25, 2022 18:21 JST
SHANGHAI – Shanghai resembled a ghost town Friday as rolling lockdowns shuttered neighborhoods across the financial hub of 25 million people, which has quickly become the epicenter of China’s worst coronavirus outbreak.
The city’s whack-a-mole approach to clamping down on infections, a linchpin of Beijing’s zero-COVID policy, left some hospitals dangerously short-staffed as personnel were shifted to conduct mass-testing across the metropolis, which posted its highest-ever daily caseload this week.
The problem came into stark view after a nurse at Shanghai East Hospital was turned away from her own employer’s emergency room while suffering a severe asthma attack. She later died, the hospital confirmed on Friday. The ward had been closed for virus prevention work.
News of the woman’s death this week spread like wildfire on Chinese social media.
“This is murder,” one person wrote on the Twitter-like Weibo app. “Regardless of the illness, why can’t the hospital prioritize emergencies and not use COVID prevention as an excuse.”
Officials are also scrambling to stamp out rumors about plans for a citywide lockdown, which they have denied, but that hasn’t stopped panicked residents from clearing store shelves. Police in the city say they are investigating two people accused of making up lockdown rumors.
“Please do not believe and spread rumors,” Shanghai’s government said on Weibo.
Delivery workers are passing food over barriers to some residents in neighborhoods blocked off with temporary fences and metal blockades, fueling frustration from people who cannot leave their homes.
“Today is our 20th day in quarantine,” said Hu Xiaokang, who lives in Minhang District, which has been designated high risk. “Initially, we were told to expect a 14-day lockdown but that was extended for another two days, and another two days and another two days.”
The hair salon operator said his business was on the verge of going bust.
“How much longer do we have to endure this,” Hu said, raising his voice. “Rent and wages still need to be taken care of despite not being able to open for business.”
Shanghai reported a record 1,609 virus infections on Thursday alone. That vaulted it past other hot spot cities, including Jilin and Changchun in China’s northeast, and accounted for one-third of some 4,790 cases nationwide.
The highly contagious omicron variant has tested China’s virus policies as the country’s caseload jumped to its highest levels since the respiratory illness was first reported in Wuhan more than two years ago. China recorded the first COVID deaths in more than a year this past weekend.
“The number of cases has increased exponentially due to so many asymptomatic cases from the omicron strain, making prevention and control very difficult,” Zhang Wenhong, head of Shanghai’s COVID-19 treatment team, acknowledged on Thursday.
China has reported 137,231 cases and an official death toll of 4,638.
While those numbers are low globally, China has maintained some of the world’s strictest measures for battling coronavirus, even as some Western and Asian nations move toward living with the virus and ease their border controls.
Shanghai and Shenzhen, a factory hub bordering Hong Kong that is home to major suppliers to US tech group Apple, began shutting down this month as the outbreak surged, while authorities sealed off the entire northeastern province of Jilin, home to about 24 million people, after it reported thousands of new infections.
This week, steelmaking center Tangshan said residents who were not essential workers must stay home until further notice.
The northeastern city of Shenyang, meanwhile, warned that its 9 million residents must go through another three rounds of testing, while most companies were ordered to suspend operations. BMW Group said production at all its plants in Shenyang would be halted from Thursday.
But, as Shenzhen emerges from lockdowns and Hong Kong eases restrictions despite thousands of new daily cases, Shanghai is ramping up its so-called “grid screening”, a strategy to mass test residential districts deemed high risk and then seal them off if infections are found.
While the number of new cases found this way had declined to about 10% of the total, Zhang said it was “inevitable” that the approach would continue for the time being.
The city shut its Shanghai Disney Resort from Monday and many restaurants were either closed or offering take-away service only.
The usually bustling streets of Shanghai’s central business district in Lujiazui and West Nanjing Road have been largely deserted in recent days. Public transit was cut in half and many white-collar workers opted to stay at home, after earlier lockdowns trapped employees in their offices. Images of staff rolling out sleeping bags at their workplaces have gone viral online.
Michael Zeng, a software engineer whose office was put under quarantine without warning last month, wasn’t taking any chances this time around.
“I rather stay at home than be caught by sudden lockdown in the office again,” he said.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Shanghai-becomes-China-s-COVID-epicenter-as-cases-surge?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Shanghai becomes China’s COVID epicenter as cases surge
Shanghai reported a record 1,609 virus infections on Thursday alone. That vaulted it past other hot spot cities, including Jilin and Changchun in China’s northeast, and accounted for one-third of some 4,790 cases nationwide.
The highly contagious omicron variant has tested China’s virus policies as the country’s caseload jumped to its highest levels since the respiratory illness was first reported in Wuhan more than two years ago. China recorded the first COVID deaths in more than a year this past weekend.
“The number of cases has increased exponentially due to so many asymptomatic cases from the omicron strain, making prevention and control very difficult,” Zhang Wenhong, head of Shanghai’s COVID-19 treatment team, acknowledged on Thursday.
excellent, the world is overpopulated with CHINA communists, serve them right for faking their figures for 2 years
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Shanghai becomes China’s COVID epicenter as cases surge
Shanghai reported a record 1,609 virus infections on Thursday alone. That vaulted it past other hot spot cities, including Jilin and Changchun in China’s northeast, and accounted for one-third of some 4,790 cases nationwide.
The highly contagious omicron variant has tested China’s virus policies as the country’s caseload jumped to its highest levels since the respiratory illness was first reported in Wuhan more than two years ago. China recorded the first COVID deaths in more than a year this past weekend.
“The number of cases has increased exponentially due to so many asymptomatic cases from the omicron strain, making prevention and control very difficult,” Zhang Wenhong, head of Shanghai’s COVID-19 treatment team, acknowledged on Thursday.
excellent, the world is overpopulated with CHINA communists, serve them right for faking their figures for 2 years
Meanwhile Australia with roughly the same population as Shanghai is back up over 60,000 cases/day (and is now No. 22 in total cases).
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Shanghai becomes China’s COVID epicenter as cases surge
Shanghai reported a record 1,609 virus infections on Thursday alone. That vaulted it past other hot spot cities, including Jilin and Changchun in China’s northeast, and accounted for one-third of some 4,790 cases nationwide.
The highly contagious omicron variant has tested China’s virus policies as the country’s caseload jumped to its highest levels since the respiratory illness was first reported in Wuhan more than two years ago. China recorded the first COVID deaths in more than a year this past weekend.
“The number of cases has increased exponentially due to so many asymptomatic cases from the omicron strain, making prevention and control very difficult,” Zhang Wenhong, head of Shanghai’s COVID-19 treatment team, acknowledged on Thursday.
excellent, the world is overpopulated with CHINA communists, serve them right for faking their figures for 2 years
Talk of China’s actual toll in the media is a bit perplexing. Estimating excess deaths shouldn’t be too difficult but but for China there seems to be little investigation one way or another.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:Witty Rejoinder said:
Shanghai becomes China’s COVID epicenter as cases surge
Shanghai reported a record 1,609 virus infections on Thursday alone. That vaulted it past other hot spot cities, including Jilin and Changchun in China’s northeast, and accounted for one-third of some 4,790 cases nationwide.
The highly contagious omicron variant has tested China’s virus policies as the country’s caseload jumped to its highest levels since the respiratory illness was first reported in Wuhan more than two years ago. China recorded the first COVID deaths in more than a year this past weekend.
“The number of cases has increased exponentially due to so many asymptomatic cases from the omicron strain, making prevention and control very difficult,” Zhang Wenhong, head of Shanghai’s COVID-19 treatment team, acknowledged on Thursday.
excellent, the world is overpopulated with CHINA communists, serve them right for faking their figures for 2 years
Meanwhile Australia with roughly the same population as Shanghai is back up over 60,000 cases/day (and is now No. 22 in total cases).
a least we bought vaccines that work
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:excellent, the world is overpopulated with CHINA communists, serve them right for faking their figures for 2 years
Meanwhile Australia with roughly the same population as Shanghai is back up over 60,000 cases/day (and is now No. 22 in total cases).
a least we bought vaccines that work
What’s the story with the fourth round vaccinations I hear talk of.
Should I be rushing out to get one?
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Meanwhile Australia with roughly the same population as Shanghai is back up over 60,000 cases/day (and is now No. 22 in total cases).
a least we bought vaccines that work
What’s the story with the fourth round vaccinations I hear talk of.
Should I be rushing out to get one?
Consult your physician or local clinic.
All it takes is a telephone call.
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Meanwhile Australia with roughly the same population as Shanghai is back up over 60,000 cases/day (and is now No. 22 in total cases).
a least we bought vaccines that work
What’s the story with the fourth round vaccinations I hear talk of.
Should I be rushing out to get one?
I think it is only for people in high risk categories.
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:a least we bought vaccines that work
What’s the story with the fourth round vaccinations I hear talk of.
Should I be rushing out to get one?
Consult your physician or local clinic.
All it takes is a telephone call.
‘sif he or she would know more than the accumulated expertise here!
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:a least we bought vaccines that work
What’s the story with the fourth round vaccinations I hear talk of.
Should I be rushing out to get one?
I think it is only for people in high risk categories.
I thought I heard yesterday they were talking about everybody 65+, but I may be mistaken.
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:a least we bought vaccines that work
What’s the story with the fourth round vaccinations I hear talk of.
Should I be rushing out to get one?
I think it is only for people in high risk categories.
Rev is in a high risk category (age).
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:What’s the story with the fourth round vaccinations I hear talk of.
Should I be rushing out to get one?
I think it is only for people in high risk categories.
Rev is in a high risk category (age).
and his BASE jumping hobby.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:What’s the story with the fourth round vaccinations I hear talk of.
Should I be rushing out to get one?
I think it is only for people in high risk categories.
Rev is in a high risk category (age).
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:I think it is only for people in high risk categories.
Rev is in a high risk category (age).
Me too.
I’ll ask my specialist when I see him on Monday.
It still has to be four months since uour tthird shot.
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:What’s the story with the fourth round vaccinations I hear talk of.
Should I be rushing out to get one?
I think it is only for people in high risk categories.
I thought I heard yesterday they were talking about everybody 65+, but I may be mistaken.
said that in the ABC article but our question is
what’s the purpose of a 4th shot of something that an evolved virus is 90% successfully evading
apart from profit we mean
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:I think it is only for people in high risk categories.
I thought I heard yesterday they were talking about everybody 65+, but I may be mistaken.
said that in the ABC article but our question is
what’s the purpose of a 4th shot of something that an evolved virus is 90% successfully evading
apart from profit we mean
They are saying that we’ll need to get one every year like the flu shots.
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:I think it is only for people in high risk categories.
I thought I heard yesterday they were talking about everybody 65+, but I may be mistaken.
said that in the ABC article but our question is
what’s the purpose of a 4th shot of something that an evolved virus is 90% successfully evading
apart from profit we mean
Please show working.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:Rev is in a high risk category (age).
Me too.
I’ll ask my specialist when I see him on Monday.It still has to be four months since uour tthird shot.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:Me too.
I’ll ask my specialist when I see him on Monday.It still has to be four months since uour tthird shot.
Thanks.
By the looks of that typing, I could be shot.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I thought I heard yesterday they were talking about everybody 65+, but I may be mistaken.
said that in the ABC article but our question is
what’s the purpose of a 4th shot of something that an evolved virus is 90% successfully evading
apart from profit we mean
Please show working.
1500000000 privileged people in the world we actually care about * $100 / shot * 2 shots / year * (65 years at retirement from contributing to The Economy Must Grow – 5 years before they’re old enough for 1% of death to master) = BIG MONEY, MAN ¡
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:It still has to be four months since uour tthird shot.
Thanks.By the looks of that typing, I could be shot.
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
said that in the ABC article but our question is
what’s the purpose of a 4th shot of something that an evolved virus is 90% successfully evading
apart from profit we mean
Please show working.
1500000000 privileged people in the world we actually care about * $100 / shot * 2 shots / year * (65 years at retirement from contributing to The Economy Must Grow – 5 years before they’re old enough for 1% of death to master) = BIG MONEY, MAN ¡
>Nobody could know how many years of life Kitching had lost to the relentless pressure of politics when she died on March 10 from a suspected heart attack at 52.
Worth reminding ourselves though that’s it’s a well-paid job that she freely chose to do.
I mean Shane Warne just died as a heart attack. Maybe she just had a heart attack? It happens.
Foo Fighters drummer dead at 50.
Hawkins? Fuck
sorry comrades we’re going to have to pare back our revenue forecasts for the next Armageddon, seems the life expectancy in this age of ForeverCOVID19 will actually save them a 15 years of healthcare funds, but don’t worry
1500000000 privileged people in the world we actually care about * $100 / shot * 2 shots / year * (50 years at death while contributing to The Economy Must Grow – 5 years before they’re old enough for 1% of death to master) = still rolling in it
Excellent News For Mice ¡
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.21.485247v1
Trivalent NDV-HXP-S vaccine protects against phylogenetically distant SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern in mice
the development of next-generation NDV-HXP-S variant vaccines, which express the stabilized spike protein of the Beta, Gamma and Delta variants of concerns (VOC). Combinations of variant vaccines in bivalent, trivalent and tetravalent formulations were tested for immunogenicity and protection in mice. We show that the trivalent preparation, composed of the ancestral Wuhan, Beta and Delta vaccines, substantially increases the levels of protection and of cross-neutralizing antibodies against mismatched, phylogenetically distant variants, including the currently circulating Omicron
allegedly, but we guess it could be East Gaza or something
We apologise for the mislocated post earlier.
Anyway, good news for Arts or whoever it was talking about ARTs recent days¡
(actually serious)
The bad news is, although vaccination might well shift infectiousness to after symptomatic, making control of transmission much easier, across most of the world people don’t give a shit and seem to be giving up on control of transmission¡
Laugh Out Loud
Predicted COVID chaos in schools a false alarm
OzSage, a group of Australian doctors and academics – which predicted 1 to 3 per cent of unvaccinated children could end up in hospital – urged governments to delay the beginning of the school year. “Sending unvaccinated children back to school at the predicted epidemic peak will worsen the situation,” it said. Former Australian Medical Association president Kerryn Phelps warned that, without an opportunity for double vaccination before class resumed, children were “sitting ducks for some of the more serious consequences of the infection”. Yet, like the forecasts that accompanied the return after lockdowns in 2020 and 2021, few have come to pass.
After four weeks, authorities are already lifting the last restrictions in schools; twice-weekly rapid antigen tests have finished and mask mandates for students and high-school staff will end on Monday, as will cohorting, which involves separating year groups. The number of cases so far is proportionally tiny in the context of the hundreds of thousands of students who gather each day in the state’s 3000-odd schools.
School authorities have learned from the past two years, and one of the lessons has been to pay less attention to the cacophony of conflicting voices and more to trusted experts. Parents worry about their kids, it’s part of the job. But some have worried more than they needed to, thanks to commentators citing overseas data that has little relevance to an Australian context, such as paediatric illness in Brazil and India, where many children are already sick from malnourishment, or from the United States, where vaccination coverage among adults is patchy. Nick Coatsworth, the former Commonwealth deputy chief medical officer, says parental concern is natural, and “the responsibility lies with the medical and academic community to do its utmost to provide a balanced view of risk, and that’s where we’ve fallen down a bit,” he says. “We’ve had a lot of people with fairly strong views about the risk to children, and I think that’s permeated people’s minds.” “It’s fine to bring those interventions in,” Dr Coatsworth says. “You can go for expensive interventions in the short term, and then do what NSW is doing and pull back on them when it’s clear the doom and gloom predictions aren’t happening.” Dr Coatsworth says authorities have also become better at, “to be honest, the political fallout of taking a position that schools go back.” Professor Fiona Russell, a senior principal research fellow at the Murdoch Children’s Research Institute, says high levels of COVID-19 anxiety among some parents is no longer influencing policy. Authorities are instead looking at research and listening to experts. “The proof is in the pudding,” she says. “It hasn’t been a disaster, with the schools going back in 2020. It wasn’t a disaster getting the schools back in 2021, or in 2022. The reason is understanding the epidemiology of infection in schools, and understanding how mitigation measures prevent major issues.”
https://www.smh.com.au/education/predicted-covid-chaos-in-schools-a-false-alarm-20220222-p59ypb.html
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/thousands-of-students-miss-school-amid-rise-in-covid-19-cases-20220324-p5a7ge.html
Tens of thousands of students missed school last week amid a resurgence of COVID-19 across the state, as head office staff were called in to replace sick teachers and some schools reinstated restrictions. Tens of thousands of students missed school last week amid a resurgence of COVID-19 across the state, as head office staff were called in to replace sick teachers and some schools reinstated restrictions.
For weeks, private schools have been reinstating restrictions – such as mandatory masks for high school students and teachers, or sending cohorts home – when principals thought cases numbers were climbing too high. “We have now hit our critical threshold both with student attendance dropping under 60 per cent across some cohorts and classes, and with a large number of teaching staff who are absent, across both primary and high school,” Moriah told parents in an email.
fun
A woman in England has been diagnosed with Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic fever according to a new report from the U.K. Health Security Agency. The viral disease is spread by ticks and livestock animals in areas of the world where it is considered endemic. These include locations in Africa, the Middle East, Asia and the Balkans and the case in the U.K. was found in a woman who had recently returned from central Asia. It is not found in ticks in the U.K.
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud
Predicted COVID chaos in schools a false alarm
OzSage, a group of Australian doctors and academics – which predicted 1 to 3 per cent of unvaccinated children could end up in hospital – urged governments to delay the beginning of the school year. “Sending unvaccinated children back to school at the predicted epidemic peak will worsen the situation,” it said. Former Australian Medical Association president Kerryn Phelps warned that, without an opportunity for double vaccination before class resumed, children were “sitting ducks for some of the more serious consequences of the infection”. Yet, like the forecasts that accompanied the return after lockdowns in 2020 and 2021, few have come to pass.
After four weeks, authorities are already lifting the last restrictions in schools; twice-weekly rapid antigen tests have finished and mask mandates for students and high-school staff will end on Monday, as will cohorting, which involves separating year groups. The number of cases so far is proportionally tiny in the context of the hundreds of thousands of students who gather each day in the state’s 3000-odd schools.
School authorities have learned from the past two years, and one of the lessons has been to pay less attention to the cacophony of conflicting voices and more to trusted experts. Parents worry about their kids, it’s part of the job. But some have worried more than they needed to, thanks to commentators citing overseas data that has little relevance to an Australian context, such as paediatric illness in Brazil and India, where many children are already sick from malnourishment, or from the United States, where vaccination coverage among adults is patchy. Nick Coatsworth, the former Commonwealth deputy chief medical officer, says parental concern is natural, and “the responsibility lies with the medical and academic community to do its utmost to provide a balanced view of risk, and that’s where we’ve fallen down a bit,” he says. “We’ve had a lot of people with fairly strong views about the risk to children, and I think that’s permeated people’s minds.” “It’s fine to bring those interventions in,” Dr Coatsworth says. “You can go for expensive interventions in the short term, and then do what NSW is doing and pull back on them when it’s clear the doom and gloom predictions aren’t happening.” Dr Coatsworth says authorities have also become better at, “to be honest, the political fallout of taking a position that schools go back.” Professor Fiona Russell, a senior principal research fellow at the Murdoch Children’s Research Institute, says high levels of COVID-19 anxiety among some parents is no longer influencing policy. Authorities are instead looking at research and listening to experts. “The proof is in the pudding,” she says. “It hasn’t been a disaster, with the schools going back in 2020. It wasn’t a disaster getting the schools back in 2021, or in 2022. The reason is understanding the epidemiology of infection in schools, and understanding how mitigation measures prevent major issues.”
https://www.smh.com.au/education/predicted-covid-chaos-in-schools-a-false-alarm-20220222-p59ypb.html
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/thousands-of-students-miss-school-amid-rise-in-covid-19-cases-20220324-p5a7ge.htmlTens of thousands of students missed school last week amid a resurgence of COVID-19 across the state, as head office staff were called in to replace sick teachers and some schools reinstated restrictions. Tens of thousands of students missed school last week amid a resurgence of COVID-19 across the state, as head office staff were called in to replace sick teachers and some schools reinstated restrictions.
For weeks, private schools have been reinstating restrictions – such as mandatory masks for high school students and teachers, or sending cohorts home – when principals thought cases numbers were climbing too high. “We have now hit our critical threshold both with student attendance dropping under 60 per cent across some cohorts and classes, and with a large number of teaching staff who are absent, across both primary and high school,” Moriah told parents in an email.
Kerryn Phelps…just shakes head
The monoclonal antibody sotrovimab is no longer authorized by the FDA to treat COVID-19 in certain U.S. regions with high frequency of the omicron BA.2 subvariant. In a statement released March 25, the FDA said it was limiting the use of sotrovimab (Xevudy, GlaxoSmithKline) in some U.S. regions, mostly along the east coast, following data showing that the authorized dose of the monoclonal antibody — 500 mg — is unlikely to be effective against the BA.2 subvariant.
https://www.healio.com/news/rheumatology/20220325/sotrovimab-no-longer-authorized-to-treat-covid19-in-areas-with-high-ba2-frequency
https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20220125/monoclonal-antibodies-ineffective-for-omicron-no-longer-authorized-in-us
The FDA halted the use of two monoclonal antibody treatments for COVID-19 because they are not effective against the omicron variant of SARS-CoV-2, which now accounts for almost all U.S. cases. The FDA revised the emergency use authorizations for the two treatments bamlanivimab and etesevimab administered together, and the cocktail of casirivimab and imdevimab. Their use will now be limited to infections that are likely to have been caused by a variant that is susceptible to the treatments.
Oh Come On Don’t Be Coy, Just Say It Out Loud
A six-year-old boy has died in hospital after being found unresponsive in a backyard pool in Perth southern suburbs just over an hour after he was reported missing by his parents.
these are necessary deaths, touching water is mild for almost all children
They also said he might have had difficulty communicating with strangers.
but of course if there are pre-existing conditions like some kind of developmental thing then hey they were going to die anyway, hurry up
SCIENCE said:
Oh Come On Don’t Be Coy, Just Say It Out Loud
A six-year-old boy has died in hospital after being found unresponsive in a backyard pool in Perth southern suburbs just over an hour after he was reported missing by his parents.
these are necessary deaths, touching water is mild for almost all children
They also said he might have had difficulty communicating with strangers.
but of course if there are pre-existing conditions like some kind of developmental thing then hey they were going to die anyway, hurry up
I wonder if it had a pool fence, either way not very effective
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:Oh Come On Don’t Be Coy, Just Say It Out Loud
A six-year-old boy has died in hospital after being found unresponsive in a backyard pool in Perth southern suburbs just over an hour after he was reported missing by his parents.
these are necessary deaths, touching water is mild for almost all children
They also said he might have had difficulty communicating with strangers.
but of course if there are pre-existing conditions like some kind of developmental thing then hey they were going to die anyway, hurry up
I wonder if it had a pool fence, either way not very effective
the initial reports said sustained injuries.. so I wonder what that was about.
Arts said:
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:Oh Come On Don’t Be Coy, Just Say It Out Loud
A six-year-old boy has died in hospital after being found unresponsive in a backyard pool in Perth southern suburbs just over an hour after he was reported missing by his parents.
these are necessary deaths, touching water is mild for almost all children
They also said he might have had difficulty communicating with strangers.
but of course if there are pre-existing conditions like some kind of developmental thing then hey they were going to die anyway, hurry up
I wonder if it had a pool fence, either way not very effective
the initial reports said sustained injuries.. so I wonder what that was about.
Climbed the fence and fell perhaps.
captain_spalding said:
Heh
captain_spalding said:
Nice.
Covid cases from 2nd Omicron wave is almost back as high as first.
Oh, and I think I’ve finally figured out why countries have multiple waves. Despite what “science” and others on the forum have said, it’s got nothing to do with predator prey relationships and the modified Lotka-Volterra equation.
Instead, it’s due to the slow but inexorable increase in virus transmission rate with time. The virus is dominantly spread by the social network that connects super-spreaders. As virus transmission rate increases with time, people who weren’t super-spreaders at the lower rate of virus transmission become super-spreader status at the higher virus transmission rate. It’s these new super-spreaders added to the social network who are responsible for each subsequent wave of cases.
mollwollfumble said:
what “science” and others on the forum have said, it’s got nothing to do with predator prey relationships and the modified Lotka-Volterra equation
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How The Susans Laze, Also Known As “Yet Again, White House Goes In Opposite Direction To Experts, This Time Under A New Government”
Yesterday the White House published a blog post titled “Let’s Clear the Air on COVID,” describing the virus as primarily transmitted through aerosols—small, tiny airborne particles. In doing so, it has turned away from the language used by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Though the CDC has mentioned the possibility of aerosol transmission, it still maintains that droplets are the most common route of COVID-19 transmission.
“The CDC still says the science is iffy, still underplays it, despite so much evidence to the contrary,” said Lisa Brosseau, ScD, a research consultant at the University of Minnesota’s Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), publisher of CIDRAP News.
under other fun subheadings there
The United States reported 40,987 new COVID-19 cases yesterday and 1,617 deaths, according to the Johns Hopkins COVID-19 tracker.
China’s surge is small compared to other countries, its “zero COVID” policy and targeted lockdown measures are fueling economic concerns. Today the country’s commerce secretary said the outbreaks are a threat to supply chains, with shortages of raw materials affecting producers, according to Reuters. China’s cases today remained at their highest level in 2 years, with 4,732 new cases, including 2,010 asymptomatic infections, according to the National Health Commission.
South Korea today reported a daily record high for deaths, with 470 new fatalities, according to the Korea Herald. Health officials said daily deaths, which often lag spikes in cases, will likely remain high for the next few weeks and could even reach 1,000 a day.
looks like Shanghai, or at least substantial parts of it are going into lockdown.
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After an almost year-long fight to find out why the Government didn’t buy more vaccines sooner, this is all the Health Department will release from an email chain in which mRNA vaccines are discussed.
(How do we know that? Because mRNA documents are what we asked for.)
sarahs mum said:
Dan Conifer
DanConifer · 3h Replying toDanConifer
After an almost year-long fight to find out why the Government didn’t buy more vaccines sooner, this is all the Health Department will release from an email chain in which mRNA vaccines are discussed.(How do we know that? Because mRNA documents are what we asked for.)
abc foi.
my kids are now making me do heardle… which is trying to guess a song after a second etc of listening to it
Arts said:
my kids are now making me do heardle… which is trying to guess a song after a second etc of listening to it
wrong thread obviously but I’m not going to move it, because this is due to COVID.
Arts said:
my kids are now making me do heardle… which is trying to guess a song after a second etc of listening to it
What if they play their music?
sibeen said:
Arts said:
my kids are now making me do heardle… which is trying to guess a song after a second etc of listening to itWhat if they play their music?
:)
A few spots
A few buckets
Ian said:
A few spots
A few buckets
>> Chat
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More to come..
Arts said:
Arts said:
my kids are now making me do heardle… which is trying to guess a song after a second etc of listening to itwrong thread obviously but I’m not going to move it, because this is due to COVID.
curdle
Good News, Money To Be Saved On Elderly Decrepits
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/padr.12477
Global and National Declines in Life Expectancy: An End-of-2021 Assessment
The global life expectancy appears to have declined by 0.92 years between 2019 and 2020 and by another 0.72 years between 2020 and 2021, but the decline seems to have ended during the last quarter of 2021. Annual declines in life expectancy (from a 12-month period to the next) appear to have exceeded two years at some point before the end of 2021 in at least 50 countries. Since 1950, annual declines of that magnitude had only been observed on rare occasions, such as Cambodia in the 1970s, Rwanda in the 1990s, and possibly some sub-Saharan African nations at the peak of the acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) pandemic.
Communist Gushes About Strategy That CHINA Looked Like They Were Abandoning
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/28/no-covid-approach-bad-press-but-worked
Though lockdowns might have been necessary in the beginning, because we had no other shields against the virus, they soon stopped being synonymous with elimination. Cheap mass testing plus isolation of the infected, ventilation, masking, distancing and – importantly – social and financial support for those inconvenienced by these measures, became the preferred tools, used most effectively in combination.
Laugh The Fuck Out Loud
On Friday three public schools introduced so-called circuit-breaker restrictions, such as reinstating mandatory masks, to curb the spread of the virus; by Monday that number had grown to 23, while another 17 had sent a cohort home for remote learning.
Two weeks ago, the attendance rate at public schools was 86 per cent, compared with almost 92 per cent in the same period last year, which is around the usual rate. That fell to 80 per cent last week. A spokesman for the NSW Department of Education said the student attendance rate was 90 per cent for the same week in 2021. There are 823,000 students at NSW public schools.
Professor Robert Booy, an expert in child and adolescent health at Sydney Medical School, said significant rainfall in March had likely contributed to the rise in cases. “School has never been the driver of the epidemic,” he said. “Of course it spreads in schools, and when it’s raining you’ll have more crowding and more transmission of virus, undoubtedly. Transmission is occurring in the community and households.”
followed by some minimising anecdotes
we hear rain also increases the incidence of parasitic nematode infections
and malaria
SCIENCE said:
Laugh The Fuck Out Loudrain blamed for spike in COVID-19 case numbers
On Friday three public schools introduced so-called circuit-breaker restrictions, such as reinstating mandatory masks, to curb the spread of the virus; by Monday that number had grown to 23, while another 17 had sent a cohort home for remote learning.
Two weeks ago, the attendance rate at public schools was 86 per cent, compared with almost 92 per cent in the same period last year, which is around the usual rate. That fell to 80 per cent last week. A spokesman for the NSW Department of Education said the student attendance rate was 90 per cent for the same week in 2021. There are 823,000 students at NSW public schools.
Professor Robert Booy, an expert in child and adolescent health at Sydney Medical School, said significant rainfall in March had likely contributed to the rise in cases. “School has never been the driver of the epidemic,” he said. “Of course it spreads in schools, and when it’s raining you’ll have more crowding and more transmission of virus, undoubtedly. Transmission is occurring in the community and households.”
followed by some minimising anecdotes
we hear rain also increases the incidence of parasitic nematode infections
and malaria
drownings
fucking
The federal government is bracing for a fresh Omicron COVID wave this winter with “elevated rates” of absenteeism and supply chain pressures expected, the budget papers reveal.
not mentioned at all: prevention
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-30/omicron-covid-australian-winter-wave-expected/100949628
SCIENCE said:
fuckingThe federal government is bracing for a fresh Omicron COVID wave this winter with “elevated rates” of absenteeism and supply chain pressures expected, the budget papers reveal.
not mentioned at all: prevention
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-30/omicron-covid-australian-winter-wave-expected/100949628
Prevention would help out a lot, I wonder why they left it out.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
fuckingThe federal government is bracing for a fresh Omicron COVID wave this winter with “elevated rates” of absenteeism and supply chain pressures expected, the budget papers reveal.
not mentioned at all: prevention
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-30/omicron-covid-australian-winter-wave-expected/100949628
Prevention would help out a lot, I wonder why they left it out.
because it’s not seeming to be working…
Arts said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
fucking
The federal government is bracing for a fresh Omicron COVID wave this winter with “elevated rates” of absenteeism and supply chain pressures expected, the budget papers reveal.
not mentioned at all: prevention
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-30/omicron-covid-australian-winter-wave-expected/100949628
Prevention would help out a lot, I wonder why they left it out.
because it’s not seeming to be working…
well yes preventative measures that are avoided generally do seem to not work
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Prevention would help out a lot, I wonder why they left it out.
because it’s not seeming to be working…
well yes preventative measures that are avoided generally do seem to not work
Most people that have avoided preventative measures end up getting it.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:Arts said:
because it’s not seeming to be working…
well yes preventative measures that are avoided generally do seem to not work
Most people that have avoided preventative measures end up getting it.
genius
Arts said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:well yes preventative measures that are avoided generally do seem to not work
Most people that have avoided preventative measures end up getting it.
genius
Thanks.
Looks nice,
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/03/28/opinion/coronavirus-mutation-future.html
some highlights
and
good luck¡
SCIENCE said:
Looks nice,https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/03/28/opinion/coronavirus-mutation-future.html
some highlights
and
good luck¡
fucken hell
On the bright side, total global deaths last week were the lowest they’ve been since early 2020.
The two worst affected countries in the last 7 days in terms of deaths per capita are South Korea and Hong Kong.
“As of this week, Queensland Health has introduced new guidelines where, after completing seven days of isolation, positive COVID-19 cases do not have to be tested or to quarantine for 12 weeks, even if they develop symptoms.”
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Sigh. Let’s throw caution to the wind.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-31/qld-coronavirus-covid19-isolation-guidelines/100939364
Michael V said:
“As of this week, Queensland Health has introduced new guidelines where, after completing seven days of isolation, positive COVID-19 cases do not have to be tested or to quarantine for 12 weeks, even if they develop symptoms.”
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Sigh. Let’s throw caution to the wind.
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————-https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-31/qld-coronavirus-covid19-isolation-guidelines/100939364
Infection Is Necessary
It Is Expected
Do Your Duty To Die For The Economy Must Grow
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
“As of this week, Queensland Health has introduced new guidelines where, after completing seven days of isolation, positive COVID-19 cases do not have to be tested or to quarantine for 12 weeks, even if they develop symptoms.”
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Sigh. Let’s throw caution to the wind.
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————-https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-31/qld-coronavirus-covid19-isolation-guidelines/100939364
Infection Is Necessary
It Is Expected
Do Your Duty To Die For The Economy Must Grow
Michael V said:
“As of this week, Queensland Health has introduced new guidelines where, after completing seven days of isolation, positive COVID-19 cases do not have to be tested or to quarantine for 12 weeks, even if they develop symptoms.”———————————————————————————————————————————————————————-
Sigh. Let’s throw caution to the wind.
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————-https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-31/qld-coronavirus-covid19-isolation-guidelines/100939364
The population is almost entirely vaccinated and many people have also had breakthrough infections; moving to a model of personal responsibility over a state sanctioned model of test and isolate is, IMO, totally reasonable.
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:Michael V said:
“As of this week, Queensland Health has introduced new guidelines where, after completing seven days of isolation, positive COVID-19 cases do not have to be tested or to quarantine for 12 weeks, even if they develop symptoms.”
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————-
Sigh. Let’s throw caution to the wind.
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————-https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-31/qld-coronavirus-covid19-isolation-guidelines/100939364
Infection Is Necessary
It Is Expected
Do Your Duty To Die For The Economy Must Grow
Lot of RA tests being done in the cancer ward yesterday.
why use a $5 test to confirm it’s too late, instead of a $0.50 barrier to prevent it early, where it refers to a disease that has significant long term complications that worsen each time people catch it
Michael V said:
“As of this week, Queensland Health has introduced new guidelines where, after completing seven days of isolation, positive COVID-19 cases do not have to be tested or to quarantine for 12 weeks, even if they develop symptoms.”———————————————————————————————————————————————————————-
Sigh. Let’s throw caution to the wind.
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————-https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-31/qld-coronavirus-covid19-isolation-guidelines/100939364
about as reassuring as imagining the polar ice melting
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:Infection Is Necessary
It Is Expected
Do Your Duty To Die For The Economy Must Grow
Lot of RA tests being done in the cancer ward yesterday.why use a $5 test to confirm it’s too late, instead of a $0.50 barrier to prevent it early, where it refers to a disease that has significant long term complications that worsen each time people catch it
diddly-squat said:
Michael V said:
“As of this week, Queensland Health has introduced new guidelines where, after completing seven days of isolation, positive COVID-19 cases do not have to be tested or to quarantine for 12 weeks, even if they develop symptoms.”———————————————————————————————————————————————————————-
Sigh. Let’s throw caution to the wind.
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————-https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-31/qld-coronavirus-covid19-isolation-guidelines/100939364
The population is almost entirely vaccinated and many people have also had breakthrough infections; moving to a model of personal responsibility over a state sanctioned model of test and isolate is, IMO, totally reasonable.
not sure that a policy inclining a high tolerance of variable infection rates of wild covid lends to personal responsibility, unless personal means diminished or diluted responsibility, which it could given it all turned a bit 1984 or something, doublespeak became normal
if covid wiped out half the animal species on earth, not saying it would or could, but who’d take personal responsibility for that, I think the moral trajectory is that nobody would
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:Lot of RA tests being done in the cancer ward yesterday.
why use a $5 test to confirm it’s too late, instead of a $0.50 barrier to prevent it early, where it refers to a disease that has significant long term complications that worsen each time people catch it
Masks are compulsory in the ward as is screening for patients as they arrive.
fair enough we guess hospitals might require both
transition said:
diddly-squat said:
Michael V said:
“As of this week, Queensland Health has introduced new guidelines where, after completing seven days of isolation, positive COVID-19 cases do not have to be tested or to quarantine for 12 weeks, even if they develop symptoms.”———————————————————————————————————————————————————————-
Sigh. Let’s throw caution to the wind.
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————-https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-31/qld-coronavirus-covid19-isolation-guidelines/100939364
The population is almost entirely vaccinated and many people have also had breakthrough infections; moving to a model of personal responsibility over a state sanctioned model of test and isolate is, IMO, totally reasonable.
not sure that a policy inclining a high tolerance of variable infection rates of wild covid lends to personal responsibility, unless personal means diminished or diluted responsibility, which it could given it all turned a bit 1984 or something, doublespeak became normal
if covid wiped out half the animal species on earth, not saying it would or could, but who’d take personal responsibility for that, I think the moral trajectory is that nobody would
we mean by the same argument, even if
the population is almost entirely unvaccinated and many people have had no infections; moving to a model of personal responsibility over a state sanctioned model of test and isolate would be totally reasonable
transition said:
diddly-squat said:
Michael V said:
“As of this week, Queensland Health has introduced new guidelines where, after completing seven days of isolation, positive COVID-19 cases do not have to be tested or to quarantine for 12 weeks, even if they develop symptoms.”———————————————————————————————————————————————————————-
Sigh. Let’s throw caution to the wind.
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————-https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-31/qld-coronavirus-covid19-isolation-guidelines/100939364
The population is almost entirely vaccinated and many people have also had breakthrough infections; moving to a model of personal responsibility over a state sanctioned model of test and isolate is, IMO, totally reasonable.
not sure that a policy inclining a high tolerance of variable infection rates of wild covid lends to personal responsibility, unless personal means diminished or diluted responsibility, which it could given it all turned a bit 1984 or something, doublespeak became normal
if covid wiped out half the animal species on earth, not saying it would or could, but who’d take personal responsibility for that, I think the moral trajectory is that nobody would
but the fact is that now covid is less deadly than it was, it’s still serious, but people are largely protected and now it’s time for people to be trusted to act in a responsible way. We don’t need mandated test and isolate structures anymore.
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
diddly-squat said:The population is almost entirely vaccinated and many people have also had breakthrough infections; moving to a model of personal responsibility over a state sanctioned model of test and isolate is, IMO, totally reasonable.
not sure that a policy inclining a high tolerance of variable infection rates of wild covid lends to personal responsibility, unless personal means diminished or diluted responsibility, which it could given it all turned a bit 1984 or something, doublespeak became normal
if covid wiped out half the animal species on earth, not saying it would or could, but who’d take personal responsibility for that, I think the moral trajectory is that nobody would
we mean by the same argument, even if
the population is almost entirely unvaccinated and many people have had no infections; moving to a model of personal responsibility over a state sanctioned model of test and isolate would be totally reasonable
and back in the day if covid were less transmissible that may have been an option, but it wasn’t.. I mean this isn’t rocket science, and nor is it some form of conspiracy of capitalism, it’s just good policy following well understood science and risk management processes.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
diddly-squat said:
transition said:
diddly-squat said:The population is almost entirely vaccinated and many people have also had breakthrough infections; moving to a model of personal responsibility over a state sanctioned model of test and isolate is, IMO, totally reasonable.
not sure that a policy inclining a high tolerance of variable infection rates of wild covid lends to personal responsibility, unless personal means diminished or diluted responsibility, which it could given it all turned a bit 1984 or something, doublespeak became normal
if covid wiped out half the animal species on earth, not saying it would or could, but who’d take personal responsibility for that, I think the moral trajectory is that nobody would
but the fact is that now covid is less deadly than it was, it’s still serious, but people are largely protected and now it’s time for people to be trusted to act in a responsible way. We don’t need mandated test and isolate structures anymore.
the fact is that nobody knows where evolution will go with covid, what is known is it has a lot of hosts to evolve in, it’s a fast replicator, the potential for something nastier and tolerated is higher than it ever has been
humans are also a massive virus reservoir, and covid is spilling over into the broader animal world
I doubt most people will be taking much personal responsibility for that if it goes really pear shaped
humans really aren’t that honest
transition said:
diddly-squat said:
transition said:not sure that a policy inclining a high tolerance of variable infection rates of wild covid lends to personal responsibility, unless personal means diminished or diluted responsibility, which it could given it all turned a bit 1984 or something, doublespeak became normal
if covid wiped out half the animal species on earth, not saying it would or could, but who’d take personal responsibility for that, I think the moral trajectory is that nobody would
but the fact is that now covid is less deadly than it was, it’s still serious, but people are largely protected and now it’s time for people to be trusted to act in a responsible way. We don’t need mandated test and isolate structures anymore.
the fact is that nobody knows where evolution will go with covid, what is known is it has a lot of hosts to evolve in, it’s a fast replicator, the potential for something nastier and tolerated is higher than it ever has been
humans are also a massive virus reservoir, and covid is spilling over into the broader animal world
I doubt most people will be taking much personal responsibility for that if it goes really pear shaped
humans really aren’t that honest
Imagine how dangerous a virus reservoir batman would be, being a bat and a human
Looking at yesterday’s Worldometer numbers:
Country/New cases/ New Deaths
USA/ 26,016/ 802
Germany/ 237,858/ 331
Australia/ 60,694 / 31
So deaths/1000 new cases are:
USA 31
Germany 1.4
Australia 0.5
Which seems a pretty huge difference.
diddly-squat said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:not sure that a policy inclining a high tolerance of variable infection rates of wild covid lends to personal responsibility, unless personal means diminished or diluted responsibility, which it could given it all turned a bit 1984 or something, doublespeak became normal
if covid wiped out half the animal species on earth, not saying it would or could, but who’d take personal responsibility for that, I think the moral trajectory is that nobody would
we mean by the same argument, even if
the population is almost entirely unvaccinated and many people have had no infections; moving to a model of personal responsibility over a state sanctioned model of test and isolate would be totally reasonable
and back in the day if covid were less transmissible that may have been an option, but it wasn’t.. I mean this isn’t rocket science, and nor is it some form of conspiracy of capitalism, it’s just good policy following well understood science and risk management processes.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
not really, we mean, the virus was indeed less transmissible, and opening up the competition for transmissibility stakes is exactly what evolved it to be worse
transition said:
diddly-squat said:
transition said:not sure that a policy inclining a high tolerance of variable infection rates of wild covid lends to personal responsibility, unless personal means diminished or diluted responsibility, which it could given it all turned a bit 1984 or something, doublespeak became normal
if covid wiped out half the animal species on earth, not saying it would or could, but who’d take personal responsibility for that, I think the moral trajectory is that nobody would
but the fact is that now covid is less deadly than it was, it’s still serious, but people are largely protected and now it’s time for people to be trusted to act in a responsible way. We don’t need mandated test and isolate structures anymore.
the fact is that nobody knows where evolution will go with covid, what is known is it has a lot of hosts to evolve in, it’s a fast replicator, the potential for something nastier and tolerated is higher than it ever has been
humans are also a massive virus reservoir, and covid is spilling over into the broader animal world
I doubt most people will be taking much personal responsibility for that if it goes really pear shaped
humans really aren’t that honest
you are correct, we can’t see into the future.. so in the absence of crystal balls we use information and risk management processes to make well-informed and risk-weighted decisions
The Rev Dodgson said:
Looking at yesterday’s Worldometer numbers:Country/New cases/ New Deaths
USA/ 26,016/ 802
Germany/ 237,858/ 331
Australia/ 60,694 / 31So deaths/1000 new cases are:
USA 31
Germany 1.4
Australia 0.5Which seems a pretty huge difference.
but it’ll be higher if your cases are declining, and lower if they’re climbing
The Rev Dodgson said:
Looking at yesterday’s Worldometer numbers:Country/New cases/ New Deaths
USA/ 26,016/ 802
Germany/ 237,858/ 331
Australia/ 60,694 / 31So deaths/1000 new cases are:
USA 31
Germany 1.4
Australia 0.5Which seems a pretty huge difference.
Viruses don’t really aim to kill the host its just an unfortunate side effect, so the current less deadly more transmissible version likely suits it
diddly-squat said:
transition said:
diddly-squat said:but the fact is that now covid is less deadly than it was, it’s still serious, but people are largely protected and now it’s time for people to be trusted to act in a responsible way. We don’t need mandated test and isolate structures anymore.
the fact is that nobody knows where evolution will go with covid, what is known is it has a lot of hosts to evolve in, it’s a fast replicator, the potential for something nastier and tolerated is higher than it ever has been
humans are also a massive virus reservoir, and covid is spilling over into the broader animal world
I doubt most people will be taking much personal responsibility for that if it goes really pear shaped
humans really aren’t that honest
you are correct, we can’t see into the future.. so in the absence of crystal balls we use information and risk management processes to make well-informed and risk-weighted decisions
that sounds respectable, the latter, even rational, but I doubt the loose collective stupid is anything like that
Cymek said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Looking at yesterday’s Worldometer numbers:
Country/New cases/ New Deaths
USA/ 26,016/ 802
Germany/ 237,858/ 331
Australia/ 60,694 / 31So deaths/1000 new cases are:
USA 31
Germany 1.4
Australia 0.5Which seems a pretty huge difference.
Viruses don’t really aim to kill the host its just an unfortunate side effect, so the current less deadly more transmissible version likely suits it
That was the previous version and note also that viruses don’t really aim to keep the host alive either.
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Looking at yesterday’s Worldometer numbers:Country/New cases/ New Deaths
USA/ 26,016/ 802
Germany/ 237,858/ 331
Australia/ 60,694 / 31So deaths/1000 new cases are:
USA 31
Germany 1.4
Australia 0.5Which seems a pretty huge difference.
but it’ll be higher if your cases are declining, and lower if they’re climbing
OK. So USA have gone from about 900,000/day a couple of months ago to about 30,000 now, so things are nowhere near as bad as my numbers make it look. I didn’t know that.
Total Deaths as % of Total Cases is much higher for the USA than Australia.
Bubblecar said:
Total Deaths as % of Total Cases is much higher for the USA than Australia.
Strange they have a much better medical system than us
Bubblecar said:
Total Deaths as % of Total Cases is much higher for the USA than Australia.
yeah there’s little doubt that for earlier variants, mRNA vaccines were quite protective against death
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
Total Deaths as % of Total Cases is much higher for the USA than Australia.
Strange they have a much better medical system than us
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Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
Total Deaths as % of Total Cases is much higher for the USA than Australia.
Strange they have a much better medical system than us
Or so they say.
Bubblecar said:
Total Deaths as % of Total Cases is much higher for the USA than Australia.
Total Cases is a pretty rubbery number and depends on how much testing is done. Yes, really, the amount of testing can fiddle the figures. Deaths, on the other hand are a pretty firm number because dead is dead.
diddly-squat said:
transition said:
diddly-squat said:The population is almost entirely vaccinated and many people have also had breakthrough infections; moving to a model of personal responsibility over a state sanctioned model of test and isolate is, IMO, totally reasonable.
not sure that a policy inclining a high tolerance of variable infection rates of wild covid lends to personal responsibility, unless personal means diminished or diluted responsibility, which it could given it all turned a bit 1984 or something, doublespeak became normal
if covid wiped out half the animal species on earth, not saying it would or could, but who’d take personal responsibility for that, I think the moral trajectory is that nobody would
but the fact is that now covid is less deadly than it was, it’s still serious, but people are largely protected and now it’s time for people to be trusted to act in a responsible way. We don’t need mandated test and isolate structures anymore.
all of the local stores have taken down the check in QR code it seems now.. so that’s good, I was still asked to show proof of vaccine when I sat and had morning tea in a coffee shop..
so slowly moving towards being sensible again
Arts said:
diddly-squat said:
transition said:not sure that a policy inclining a high tolerance of variable infection rates of wild covid lends to personal responsibility, unless personal means diminished or diluted responsibility, which it could given it all turned a bit 1984 or something, doublespeak became normal
if covid wiped out half the animal species on earth, not saying it would or could, but who’d take personal responsibility for that, I think the moral trajectory is that nobody would
but the fact is that now covid is less deadly than it was, it’s still serious, but people are largely protected and now it’s time for people to be trusted to act in a responsible way. We don’t need mandated test and isolate structures anymore.
all of the local stores have taken down the check in QR code it seems now.. so that’s good, I was still asked to show proof of vaccine when I sat and had morning tea in a coffee shop..
so slowly moving towards being sensible again
For some reason my sons workplace directed them to work two days from home, starting this week
Our office was talking about it as well and we all have remote access to the work portal if we need to work from home as well.
Cymek said:
Arts said:
diddly-squat said:but the fact is that now covid is less deadly than it was, it’s still serious, but people are largely protected and now it’s time for people to be trusted to act in a responsible way. We don’t need mandated test and isolate structures anymore.
all of the local stores have taken down the check in QR code it seems now.. so that’s good, I was still asked to show proof of vaccine when I sat and had morning tea in a coffee shop..
so slowly moving towards being sensible again
For some reason my sons workplace directed them to work two days from home, starting this week
Our office was talking about it as well and we all have remote access to the work portal if we need to work from home as well.
Mr Arts hasn’t gone into the office once this year. Even my friend who works for the health dept (in the office) and who’s employers in the height of lockdown said they can’t work from home because it’s a privacy issue with intranets accessible from home have no relented and allowed her to work from home three days/two days every fortnight… the upside is that we can all claim electricity on our taxes
Qld Covid 31/03/22
Arts said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:all of the local stores have taken down the check in QR code it seems now.. so that’s good, I was still asked to show proof of vaccine when I sat and had morning tea in a coffee shop..
so slowly moving towards being sensible again
For some reason my sons workplace directed them to work two days from home, starting this week
Our office was talking about it as well and we all have remote access to the work portal if we need to work from home as well.
Mr Arts hasn’t gone into the office once this year. Even my friend who works for the health dept (in the office) and who’s employers in the height of lockdown said they can’t work from home because it’s a privacy issue with intranets accessible from home have no relented and allowed her to work from home three days/two days every fortnight… the upside is that we can all claim electricity on our taxes
Well, you can claim a proportion of electricity on your tax.
https://www.ivylearnings.com/australias-anti-vaccine-movement-is-collapsing/
Well, The Good News Is, Queensland Has Prevented Reinfections
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-31/qld-coronavirus-covid19-isolation-guidelines/100939364
Experts say it’s “highly unlikely” to catch COVID-19 twice in 12 weeks
From This Week Onwards, However, It’s Impossible ¡
