Date: 5/03/2022 06:13:38
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1856187
Subject: ET on Face Book

https://fb.watch/by6WOUoiKE/

Saw this on Facebook. Whether fact or fiction. There is a prediction that in 50 years approximately there will be a nuclear event that is initiated in the US allegedly

The video is interesting viewing and it could be interesting to discuss how to debate it’s validity through debate how likely is the rise of nuclear war within the next 50 years and why.

How likely is it that humans will become this next species and could it simply be that so called aliens have just simply been a future human species going back in time to find out what really happened in the past?
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Please share your thoughts and criticisms

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Date: 5/03/2022 06:39:15
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1856192
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

The alleged future human species suggests that the undoing of our humanity is religion and points it out like a key flaw , where as in the future there will be no need to have religion and the understanding of the universe evolves beyond this.

This doesn’t seem like new news given that there are currently atheists and many scientists that have this view about the problems around historical wars initiated by religious differences/

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Date: 5/03/2022 08:28:28
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1856249
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

Offset spatial divergence is mentioned is that mainstream science of woo science?

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Date: 5/03/2022 08:34:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1856251
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

monkey skipper said:


Offset spatial divergence is mentioned is that mainstream science of woo science?

Woobly woo.

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Date: 5/03/2022 08:36:03
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1856252
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

Bubblecar said:


monkey skipper said:

Offset spatial divergence is mentioned is that mainstream science of woo science?

Woobly woo.

I hope the woo prediction is wrong too.

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Date: 5/03/2022 08:36:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 1856253
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

Bubblecar said:


monkey skipper said:

Offset spatial divergence is mentioned is that mainstream science of woo science?

Woobly woo.

Pretty wibbly.

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Date: 5/03/2022 08:38:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 1856254
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

It has got to be woo because it is on facebook.

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Date: 5/03/2022 08:40:48
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1856257
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

Watched a couple of minutes and read a few comments.

I’m curious as to why it was thought interesting.

Am I missing something?

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Date: 5/03/2022 08:42:17
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1856258
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

roughbarked said:


It has got to be woo because it is on facebook.

Most likely …I guess my aim is to pull apart what is being asserted

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Date: 5/03/2022 08:48:16
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1856266
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

The Rev Dodgson said:


Watched a couple of minutes and read a few comments.

I’m curious as to why it was thought interesting.

Am I missing something?

If you watch it to the end it would be nice. Like you say and I am think 99% it is just entertainment but there is 1 % that bothered me and that is the prediction of a nuclear disaster within 50 years time.

I also thought it was interesting that the video actor or whatever that alien thing is , suggests that what people have been suggesting are the stero- typical aliens are a future evolution of humans. For the longest time people have been trying to prove or disprove the so called sightings of alien and they usually had the same stereotypical body , big eyes blah blah but this time the suggestion is a future human species .

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Date: 5/03/2022 08:49:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1856269
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

monkey skipper said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Watched a couple of minutes and read a few comments.

I’m curious as to why it was thought interesting.

Am I missing something?

If you watch it to the end it would be nice. Like you say and I am think 99% it is just entertainment but there is 1 % that bothered me and that is the prediction of a nuclear disaster within 50 years time.

I also thought it was interesting that the video actor or whatever that alien thing is , suggests that what people have been suggesting are the stero- typical aliens are a future evolution of humans. For the longest time people have been trying to prove or disprove the so called sightings of alien and they usually had the same stereotypical body , big eyes blah blah but this time the suggestion is a future human species .

well it’s not completely unfounded to predict something that is improbable at any given short interval that is actually likely over long intervals

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Date: 5/03/2022 08:52:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 1856276
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

monkey skipper said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Watched a couple of minutes and read a few comments.

I’m curious as to why it was thought interesting.

Am I missing something?

If you watch it to the end it would be nice. Like you say and I am think 99% it is just entertainment but there is 1 % that bothered me and that is the prediction of a nuclear disaster within 50 years time.

I also thought it was interesting that the video actor or whatever that alien thing is , suggests that what people have been suggesting are the stero- typical aliens are a future evolution of humans. For the longest time people have been trying to prove or disprove the so called sightings of alien and they usually had the same stereotypical body , big eyes blah blah but this time the suggestion is a future human species .

I think you are basing this hypothesis upon the actual existence of time travel?

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Date: 5/03/2022 08:52:26
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1856277
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

SCIENCE said:


monkey skipper said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Watched a couple of minutes and read a few comments.

I’m curious as to why it was thought interesting.

Am I missing something?

If you watch it to the end it would be nice. Like you say and I am think 99% it is just entertainment but there is 1 % that bothered me and that is the prediction of a nuclear disaster within 50 years time.

I also thought it was interesting that the video actor or whatever that alien thing is , suggests that what people have been suggesting are the stero- typical aliens are a future evolution of humans. For the longest time people have been trying to prove or disprove the so called sightings of alien and they usually had the same stereotypical body , big eyes blah blah but this time the suggestion is a future human species .

well it’s not completely unfounded to predict something that is improbable at any given short interval that is actually likely over long intervals

well he said things , that I thought were already known ie there are an infinite amount of universes but our universe just happens to be stable enough for life.

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Date: 5/03/2022 08:52:51
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1856279
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

SCIENCE said:


monkey skipper said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Watched a couple of minutes and read a few comments.

I’m curious as to why it was thought interesting.

Am I missing something?

If you watch it to the end it would be nice. Like you say and I am think 99% it is just entertainment but there is 1 % that bothered me and that is the prediction of a nuclear disaster within 50 years time.

I also thought it was interesting that the video actor or whatever that alien thing is , suggests that what people have been suggesting are the stero- typical aliens are a future evolution of humans. For the longest time people have been trying to prove or disprove the so called sightings of alien and they usually had the same stereotypical body , big eyes blah blah but this time the suggestion is a future human species .

well it’s not completely unfounded to predict something that is improbable at any given short interval that is actually likely over long intervals

sure

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Date: 5/03/2022 08:53:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1856281
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

monkey skipper said:


SCIENCE said:

monkey skipper said:

If you watch it to the end it would be nice. Like you say and I am think 99% it is just entertainment but there is 1 % that bothered me and that is the prediction of a nuclear disaster within 50 years time.

I also thought it was interesting that the video actor or whatever that alien thing is , suggests that what people have been suggesting are the stero- typical aliens are a future evolution of humans. For the longest time people have been trying to prove or disprove the so called sightings of alien and they usually had the same stereotypical body , big eyes blah blah but this time the suggestion is a future human species .

well it’s not completely unfounded to predict something that is improbable at any given short interval that is actually likely over long intervals

well he said things , that I thought were already known ie there are an infinite amount of universes but our universe just happens to be stable enough for life.

yeah that’s the way to get messages across whether true or false though, to include just enough believable stuff that people could buy the lot

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Date: 5/03/2022 08:56:02
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1856284
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

roughbarked said:


monkey skipper said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Watched a couple of minutes and read a few comments.

I’m curious as to why it was thought interesting.

Am I missing something?

If you watch it to the end it would be nice. Like you say and I am think 99% it is just entertainment but there is 1 % that bothered me and that is the prediction of a nuclear disaster within 50 years time.

I also thought it was interesting that the video actor or whatever that alien thing is , suggests that what people have been suggesting are the stero- typical aliens are a future evolution of humans. For the longest time people have been trying to prove or disprove the so called sightings of alien and they usually had the same stereotypical body , big eyes blah blah but this time the suggestion is a future human species .

I think you are basing this hypothesis upon the actual existence of time travel?

his assertion is that their is time travel,but he also said they know the answer to the universe and there is no god or deity responsible

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Date: 5/03/2022 08:58:07
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1856285
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

SCIENCE said:


monkey skipper said:

SCIENCE said:

well it’s not completely unfounded to predict something that is improbable at any given short interval that is actually likely over long intervals

well he said things , that I thought were already known ie there are an infinite amount of universes but our universe just happens to be stable enough for life.

yeah that’s the way to get messages across whether true or false though, to include just enough believable stuff that people could buy the lot

Yeah not specific enough. he does talk about physics but it didn’t sound too far away from what an atheist physicist would believe now except the divergence in spacial whatever thingie that bubblecar confirmed is woo science

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Date: 5/03/2022 13:24:48
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1856424
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

monkey skipper said:


https://fb.watch/by6WOUoiKE/

Saw this on Facebook. Whether fact or fiction. There is a prediction that in 50 years approximately there will be a nuclear event that is initiated in the US allegedly

The video is interesting viewing and it could be interesting to discuss how to debate it’s validity through debate how likely is the rise of nuclear war within the next 50 years and why.

How likely is it that humans will become this next species and could it simply be that so called aliens have just simply been a future human species going back in time to find out what really happened in the past?
.
Please share your thoughts and criticisms

> There is a prediction that in 50 years approximately there will be a nuclear event that is initiated in the US allegedly

The US has been doing everything to retain its 100% first strike success, like forever.

The USSR aim during the cold war was to retain a 2% nuclear missile survival, purely for defence purposes, in the event of a US first strike. The US won the cold war on the grounds that it could wipe out 100% of the Soviet nuclear missiles on first strike. Given that the USSR had literally zero defence against the US, it had to give up.

At the break-up of the USSR in 1990, three soviet countries possessed nuclear weapons. Only three. Russia, the Ukraine, and Kazakhstan. An agreement was reached whereby the Ukraine and Kazakhstan agreed to give all their nuclear weapons back to Russia on the condition that Russia would protect the Ukraine and Kazakhstan against NATO and other forces by using means up to and including nuclear weapons.

However, so far as I have heard so correct me if I am wrong, there has been no withdrawal of American nuclear weapons form Europe.

At then end of the cold war, the USSR had a lot of Highly Enriched Uranium. The USA took all of this, leaving Russia virtually defenceless in the long term. This probably doubled the US stockpile of the most difficult to manufacture nuclear weapon material. Possibly more than doubled it. The USA claimed that it was using all the Russian weapons grade HEU for peaceful purposes, but I have my doubts.

In April 2009, Obama proposed and put in place a bipartisan nuclear disarmament treaty with Russia. The Unites States military immediately started cheating on this. They destroyed many of their old weapons, yes. But their purpose had nothing to do with disarmament. Instead, their purpose was that the old weapons used tritium which, with its half life of only 12.3 years, needed a lot of maintenance to keep active. So the US went in for a massive program of nuclear weapons modernisation. Replacing the tritium-based nuclear weapons with weapons that required much less maintenance. I haven’t seen specs for the new nuclear weapons, but from basic physics I suspect that they replaced the tritium with lithium, which lasts forever.

The old nuclear weapon tritium was sold off as key chain lights. You can track nuclear weapons disarmament by the timing of the sale of new key chain lights.

Although claiming to destroy their nuclear weapons, on disassembly the US retained all the plutonium cores in storage for re-use in new weapons at some time in future. As a result. the US could whenever they want mass-produce new nuclear weapons extremely rapidly.

By the time that there should have been no strategic nuclear weapons left in the US or Russia according to Obama’s plan, the number of active nuclear weapons in the US had only been cut by 1/2 to 2/3. And these are probably of the new breed, easier to maintain and easier to use.

Trump, when he came to power, hadn’t even heard of the nuclear disarmament treaty with Russia, which made it exceedingly easy for one of his advisors to cancel nuclear disarmament during Trump’s first phone call to the Russian president.

Am I making the picture clear? There is still a very high likelihood of a US initiated nuclear war in the next 50 years. It’s a lower likelihood than in April 2009, but it’s still a number one concern.

According to the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists in the US, the doomsday clock is sitting at 100 seconds to midnight. ie. they expect a nuclear war very soon. But my opinion is that that is overly pessimistic. The jump upward in 2010 away from nuclear doom should have been much larger, up to about the 1995 level of 14 minutes to midnight. Trump’s visit to North Korea in 2018 defused a then potentially explosive World War 3 nuclear threat, so should have been a jump away from disaster on the doomsday clock. Ditto Trump’s withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. America’s war against Russia in Syria, started by Obama, came with the threat of a future nuclear war. The withdrawal of American troops from Syria was a positive step.

The book “The New Nuclear Threat”, published not that long ago, suggested scenarios by which a Nuclear World War 3 could start. With flashpoints in North Korea, the Middle East, South America and elsewhere.

The Russia-Ukraine situation is a major step towards a nuclear WW3. After Russia is defeated in the Ukraine, as it will be and has to be, it seems quite possible that the USA will start dropping nuclear bombs on Moscow, with the full approval of most countries in the United Nations.

I thank the lord that India and China had the sense to remain neutral in the recent UN vote on Russia. If either had voted either way then WW3 within 50 years would have been much more inevitable.

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Date: 5/03/2022 14:07:07
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1856435
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

monkey skipper said:


https://fb.watch/by6WOUoiKE/

Saw this on Facebook. Whether fact or fiction. There is a prediction that in 50 years approximately there will be a nuclear event that is initiated in the US allegedly

The video is interesting viewing and it could be interesting to discuss how to debate it’s validity through debate how likely is the rise of nuclear war within the next 50 years and why.

How likely is it that humans will become this next species and could it simply be that so called aliens have just simply been a future human species going back in time to find out what really happened in the past?
.
Please share your thoughts and criticisms

> How likely is it that humans will become this next species and could it simply be that so called aliens have just simply been a future human species going back in time to find out what really happened in the past?

I don’t believe in time travel going back in time by humans. By electrons, possibly. But I have a saying. “Just because electrons and cows are both forms of matter, it doesn’t follow that cows can do what electrons can do.”

As you know, travelling forward in time and looking back in time are dead easy. Travelling backward in time and looking forward in time are virtually impossible (see Infinite Improbability Drive for the definition of virtually impossible).

As for what humans will evolve into, that’s a really interesting question.

Some say that humans will evolve into idiots because idiots have more children than intelligent people. I don’t agree with that. Those people with more children tend to be farmers, and farmers are not in general stupid.

I say that humans will tend to evolve into what Hollywood considers its ideal of beauty. High foreheads, flat faces, strong chins, long narrow noses, narrow necks, slim and overly tall, fast clear talkers, chameleon personality, humorous persona. I hope that doesn’t also include Angelina’s lips and other sexually attractive malformations.

Add to that resistance to addiction, in all its forms.

But that’s in the short term. In the slightly longer term we will tend towards resistance to disease, resistance to famine. That will be a tendency towards short stature and fat bodies.

Then there’s resistance to war. Selecting for violent behaviour, ability to hide (eg. light weight and strong for tree climbing ability). Ability to devise, manufacture and use new weapons.

Beyond that, we start talking about the randomness of mutation and selection. Humans could end up looking like anything.

As for SciFi aliens being evolved humans. Well, in the Dr Who book “The Wheel in Space”, I think it was, humans of the future have evolved two hearts. Which allows Time Lords to be merely evolved humans. Cybermen as evolved humans is a given. Other Sci-Fi creatures, the Nox from Stargate for example.

As for Star Wars. One website asks “why do all star wars races look the same?”. Citing the following graphic.

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Date: 5/03/2022 14:11:28
From: Arts
ID: 1856439
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

all I know is that in the future someone finds it both desirable and economically efficient to have us all wearing one piece jump suits with a simple geometric shape on the chest.

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Date: 5/03/2022 14:12:44
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1856442
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

Yeah, humanoid aliens are boring, 4, 6 and 8 limbed aliens would be good to see.

An octopus can change colour.

Some fish are transparent.

Some lifeforms can have very strange shapes and textures.

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Date: 5/03/2022 14:19:14
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1856443
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

Tau.Neutrino said:


Yeah, humanoid aliens are boring, 4, 6 and 8 limbed aliens would be good to see.

An octopus can change colour.

Some fish are transparent.

Some lifeforms can have very strange shapes and textures.

To get around extinction humans may become cyborgs using a person’s working body parts with robotics to cheat death

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Date: 5/03/2022 14:25:28
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1856451
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

monkey skipper said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Yeah, humanoid aliens are boring, 4, 6 and 8 limbed aliens would be good to see.

An octopus can change colour.

Some fish are transparent.

Some lifeforms can have very strange shapes and textures.

To get around extinction humans may become cyborgs using a person’s working body parts with robotics to cheat death

That will probably happen in some form for sure.

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Date: 5/03/2022 20:09:54
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1856632
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

Tau.Neutrino said:


Yeah, humanoid aliens are boring, 4, 6 and 8 limbed aliens would be good to see.

An octopus can change colour.

Some fish are transparent.

Some lifeforms can have very strange shapes and textures.

When it comes to alien appearance, I like to keep in mind that the “human being is a close cousin of the rose bush”.

Whatever aliens we do encounter are less likely to resemble us than a rose bush does.

I was re-reading an E.E.Smith Lensman book today.

Here is a description of the appearance of a typical alien.

> The lower part of her body was somewhat like that of a small elephant; one weighing perhaps four hundred pounds. The skin, however, was clear and fine and delicately tanned; there were no ears or tusks; the neck was longer. The trunk was shorter, divided at the tip to form a highly capable hand; and between the somewhat protuberant eyes of this “feeding” head there thrust out a boldly Roman, startlingly human nose. The brain in this head was very small, being concerned only with matters of food.

> Above this not-too-unbelievable body, however, there was nothing familiar to us of Tellus. Instead of a back there were two pairs of mighty shoulders, from which sprang four tremendous arms, each like the trunk except longer and much stronger. Surmounting those massive shoulders there was an armored, slightly retractile neck which bore the heavily-armored “thinking” head. In this head there were no mouths, no nostrils. The four equally-spaced pairs of eyes were protected by heavy ridges and plates; the entire head, except for its junction with the neck, was solidly sheathed with bare, hard, thick, tough bone.

> Darjeeb’s amazing head shone a clean-scrubbed white. But Luda’s was really something to look at. It had been sanded, buffed, and polished. It had been inlaid with bars and strips and scrolls of variously-colored metals; then decorated tastefully in red and green and blue and black enamel; then, to cap the climax, lacquered!

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Date: 5/03/2022 20:16:16
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1856635
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

mollwollfumble said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Yeah, humanoid aliens are boring, 4, 6 and 8 limbed aliens would be good to see.

An octopus can change colour.

Some fish are transparent.

Some lifeforms can have very strange shapes and textures.

When it comes to alien appearance, I like to keep in mind that the “human being is a close cousin of the rose bush”.

Whatever aliens we do encounter are less likely to resemble us than a rose bush does.

I was re-reading an E.E.Smith Lensman book today.

Here is a description of the appearance of a typical alien.

> The lower part of her body was somewhat like that of a small elephant; one weighing perhaps four hundred pounds. The skin, however, was clear and fine and delicately tanned; there were no ears or tusks; the neck was longer. The trunk was shorter, divided at the tip to form a highly capable hand; and between the somewhat protuberant eyes of this “feeding” head there thrust out a boldly Roman, startlingly human nose. The brain in this head was very small, being concerned only with matters of food.

> Above this not-too-unbelievable body, however, there was nothing familiar to us of Tellus. Instead of a back there were two pairs of mighty shoulders, from which sprang four tremendous arms, each like the trunk except longer and much stronger. Surmounting those massive shoulders there was an armored, slightly retractile neck which bore the heavily-armored “thinking” head. In this head there were no mouths, no nostrils. The four equally-spaced pairs of eyes were protected by heavy ridges and plates; the entire head, except for its junction with the neck, was solidly sheathed with bare, hard, thick, tough bone.

> Darjeeb’s amazing head shone a clean-scrubbed white. But Luda’s was really something to look at. It had been sanded, buffed, and polished. It had been inlaid with bars and strips and scrolls of variously-colored metals; then decorated tastefully in red and green and blue and black enamel; then, to cap the climax, lacquered!

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Date: 5/03/2022 20:22:30
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1856637
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

mollwollfumble said:


mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Yeah, humanoid aliens are boring, 4, 6 and 8 limbed aliens would be good to see.

An octopus can change colour.

Some fish are transparent.

Some lifeforms can have very strange shapes and textures.

When it comes to alien appearance, I like to keep in mind that the “human being is a close cousin of the rose bush”.

Whatever aliens we do encounter are less likely to resemble us than a rose bush does.

I was re-reading an E.E.Smith Lensman book today.

Here is a description of the appearance of a typical alien.

> The lower part of her body was somewhat like that of a small elephant; one weighing perhaps four hundred pounds. The skin, however, was clear and fine and delicately tanned; there were no ears or tusks; the neck was longer. The trunk was shorter, divided at the tip to form a highly capable hand; and between the somewhat protuberant eyes of this “feeding” head there thrust out a boldly Roman, startlingly human nose. The brain in this head was very small, being concerned only with matters of food.

> Above this not-too-unbelievable body, however, there was nothing familiar to us of Tellus. Instead of a back there were two pairs of mighty shoulders, from which sprang four tremendous arms, each like the trunk except longer and much stronger. Surmounting those massive shoulders there was an armored, slightly retractile neck which bore the heavily-armored “thinking” head. In this head there were no mouths, no nostrils. The four equally-spaced pairs of eyes were protected by heavy ridges and plates; the entire head, except for its junction with the neck, was solidly sheathed with bare, hard, thick, tough bone.

> Darjeeb’s amazing head shone a clean-scrubbed white. But Luda’s was really something to look at. It had been sanded, buffed, and polished. It had been inlaid with bars and strips and scrolls of variously-colored metals; then decorated tastefully in red and green and blue and black enamel; then, to cap the climax, lacquered!


Not a chance in hell?

It seems to me there is a reasonable chance of animals evolving with four legs, and if that happens there is a reasonable chance that the first technological species will evolve from those species that converted their front legs into tool using arms.

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Date: 5/03/2022 20:23:24
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1856641
Subject: re: ET on Face Book

mollwollfumble said:


mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Yeah, humanoid aliens are boring, 4, 6 and 8 limbed aliens would be good to see.

An octopus can change colour.

Some fish are transparent.

Some lifeforms can have very strange shapes and textures.

When it comes to alien appearance, I like to keep in mind that the “human being is a close cousin of the rose bush”.

Whatever aliens we do encounter are less likely to resemble us than a rose bush does.

I was re-reading an E.E.Smith Lensman book today.

Here is a description of the appearance of a typical alien.

> The lower part of her body was somewhat like that of a small elephant; one weighing perhaps four hundred pounds. The skin, however, was clear and fine and delicately tanned; there were no ears or tusks; the neck was longer. The trunk was shorter, divided at the tip to form a highly capable hand; and between the somewhat protuberant eyes of this “feeding” head there thrust out a boldly Roman, startlingly human nose. The brain in this head was very small, being concerned only with matters of food.

> Above this not-too-unbelievable body, however, there was nothing familiar to us of Tellus. Instead of a back there were two pairs of mighty shoulders, from which sprang four tremendous arms, each like the trunk except longer and much stronger. Surmounting those massive shoulders there was an armored, slightly retractile neck which bore the heavily-armored “thinking” head. In this head there were no mouths, no nostrils. The four equally-spaced pairs of eyes were protected by heavy ridges and plates; the entire head, except for its junction with the neck, was solidly sheathed with bare, hard, thick, tough bone.

> Darjeeb’s amazing head shone a clean-scrubbed white. But Luda’s was really something to look at. It had been sanded, buffed, and polished. It had been inlaid with bars and strips and scrolls of variously-colored metals; then decorated tastefully in red and green and blue and black enamel; then, to cap the climax, lacquered!



most alien encounters seem to involve humanoid creatures – greys, lizard types ?, the “nordics” , things that look like yetis – and things that look like large powerful robots ie not human but appear to be a form of android.

aliens would only be dangerous if they were religious – aliens can get anything they want through technology, they don’t need ANY resource from earth. if the aliens are religious they are here to convert to their religion or belief system IF they arrive and announce themselves.

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