Dead at 52.
Died in a hotel in Thailand.
Warne Out
SCIENCE said:
Warne Out
true dat!
Peak Warming Man said:
Dead at 52.
Died in a hotel in Thailand.
and marsh .. don’t forget marsh
Tributes from cricketers and fans around the world:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2022/mar/04/shane-warne-tributes-australian-cricket-icon-dies-aged-52
monkey skipper said:
SCIENCE said:
Warne Out
true dat!
Except that he didn’t walk. Must have been a third umpire decision.
And like his bowling there’s going to be a lot of mystery and conjecture around his death.
Peak Warming Man said:
And like his bowling there’s going to be a lot of mystery and conjecture around his death.
He did party hard.
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
And like his bowling there’s going to be a lot of mystery and conjecture around his death.
He did party hard.
Died Without COVID-19, Lived With It More Than 28 Days Ago
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-05/victoria-offers-state-funeral-for-shane-warne/100885094
that’s a bit of a shock.
I remember day 2 at the Ashes test at the Gabba in 2002. Australia had scored nearly 500 in their first innings and the Poms were on the way to over 300.. the batsman well on top.. all pretty tedious..
Warnie came on, dropped a fizzing ball on a sixpence, and the place lit up.
party_pants said:
that’s a bit of a shock.
ditto shock for mrs m.
She says 4 kids. He was married, left that marriage for another affair, left that.
Won’t anybody think of Liz?
A thumbs up from me.
sibeen said:
A thumbs up from me.
+1
sibeen said:
A thumbs up from me.
Can the gubbermint do that? They don’t own the MCG, although they probably paid for most of it.
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
A thumbs up from me.
Can the gubbermint do that? They don’t own the MCG, although they probably paid for most of it.
I can’t see the people who run the MCG putting up much of a fight.
sibeen said:
A thumbs up from me.
Good one.
And nary a word for Rod Marsh…
furious said:
And nary a word for Rod Marsh…
Here they are together, before all this dying business.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
A thumbs up from me.
Good one.
+1
sibeen said:
A thumbs up from me.
Geez, wait for the dust to settle before making these knee jerk decisions…
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
A thumbs up from me.
Can the gubbermint do that? They don’t own the MCG, although they probably paid for most of it.
I can’t see the people who run the MCG putting up much of a fight.
Must Be An Election Year
Death of Warne thread on an Indian cricket forum. They’re pretty upset.
https://www.indiancricketfans.com/topic/127289-breaking-australia-cricket-legend-shane-warne-dies-of-%E2%80%98suspected-heart-attack%E2%80%99-aged-52/
Bubblecar said:
furious said:
And nary a word for Rod Marsh…
Here they are together, before all this dying business.
You wouldn’t want to arm wrestle Rod.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
furious said:
And nary a word for Rod Marsh…
Here they are together, before all this dying business.
You wouldn’t want to arm wrestle Rod.
I mean before the secret dying business of course.
furious said:
sibeen said:
A thumbs up from me.
Geez, wait for the dust to settle before making these knee jerk decisions…
Could have done it before he died.
All these cricketers dying, stop it.
roughbarked said:
furious said:
sibeen said:
A thumbs up from me.
Geez, wait for the dust to settle before making these knee jerk decisions…
Could have done it before he died.
I recon it is always best to wait till the person dies. You never know what they might get up later in life and the naming might become an embarrassment and need to be changed.
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
furious said:Geez, wait for the dust to settle before making these knee jerk decisions…
Could have done it before he died.
I recon it is always best to wait till the person dies. You never know what they might get up later in life and the naming might become an embarrassment and need to be changed.
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
furious said:Geez, wait for the dust to settle before making these knee jerk decisions…
Could have done it before he died.
I recon it is always best to wait till the person dies. You never know what they might get up later in life and the naming might become an embarrassment and need to be changed.
Yeah, like Margaret Court Arena.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:Could have done it before he died.
I recon it is always best to wait till the person dies. You never know what they might get up later in life and the naming might become an embarrassment and need to be changed.
Yeah, like Margaret Court Arena.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:I recon it is always best to wait till the person dies. You never know what they might get up later in life and the naming might become an embarrassment and need to be changed.
Yeah, like Margaret Court Arena.
I didn’t want to name anyone because they sometimes make a comeback.
there’s always the chance that they get reanimated, or more seriously, something unfavourable transpires
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
furious said:Geez, wait for the dust to settle before making these knee jerk decisions…
Could have done it before he died.
I recon it is always best to wait till the person dies. You never know what they might get up later in life and the naming might become an embarrassment and need to be changed.
it’s nicer for the person to be acknowledged in life… it seems super easy to rename something pretty quickly. so the shit they do later and the stripping of an honour is fairly common and happens all the time…
I don’t understand why everyone suddenly becomes legendary or honourable in death when they might have been a shitarse person in life… why don’t we just acknowledge that people are human and something can be shitty human beings as well as achieve in their chosen field.. both things can be true…Tamb said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:I recon it is always best to wait till the person dies. You never know what they might get up later in life and the naming might become an embarrassment and need to be changed.
Yeah, like Margaret Court Arena.
I didn’t want to name anyone because they sometimes make a comeback.
I’m quite happy to call her publicly stated, repugnant “ultra-right moralising Christian” views out.
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
furious said:Geez, wait for the dust to settle before making these knee jerk decisions…
Could have done it before he died.
I recon it is always best to wait till the person dies. You never know what they might get up later in life and the naming might become an embarrassment and need to be changed.
Yeah, like the Rolf Harris stadium.
runs away.
Margaret reckons he had blood clots due to a booster shot. She’s back with her people in nimben.
sarahs mum said:
Margaret reckons he had blood clots due to a booster shot. She’s back with her people in nimben.
I noticed with sorrow that some of the Indian posters in that cricket forum were blaming it on vaccine.
sarahs mum said:
Margaret reckons he had blood clots due to a booster shot. She’s back with her people in nimben.
notice the media silence on how it could* be a postCOVID** complication though
*: is very likely
**: or actually is the manifestation of COVID-19, where the ‘flu’like illness is merely the seroconversion
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
furious said:Geez, wait for the dust to settle before making these knee jerk decisions…
Could have done it before he died.
I recon it is always best to wait till the person dies. You never know what they might get up later in life and the naming might become an embarrassment and need to be changed.
:) Fair enough.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:Could have done it before he died.
I recon it is always best to wait till the person dies. You never know what they might get up later in life and the naming might become an embarrassment and need to be changed.
it’s nicer for the person to be acknowledged in life… it seems super easy to rename something pretty quickly. so the shit they do later and the stripping of an honour is fairly common and happens all the time…
I don’t understand why everyone suddenly becomes legendary or honourable in death when they might have been a shitarse person in life… why don’t we just acknowledge that people are human and something can be shitty human beings as well as achieve in their chosen field.. both things can be true…
Apparentrly we are shit scared of speaking ill of the dead. Maybe some believe that they can hear us?
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:I recon it is always best to wait till the person dies. You never know what they might get up later in life and the naming might become an embarrassment and need to be changed.
it’s nicer for the person to be acknowledged in life… it seems super easy to rename something pretty quickly. so the shit they do later and the stripping of an honour is fairly common and happens all the time…
I don’t understand why everyone suddenly becomes legendary or honourable in death when they might have been a shitarse person in life… why don’t we just acknowledge that people are human and something can be shitty human beings as well as achieve in their chosen field.. both things can be true…Apparentrly we are shit scared of speaking ill of the dead. Maybe some believe that they can hear us?
just tell the truth
Oh, you cruel, cruel bastard. He died on Darryl Cullinan’s birthday.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:Could have done it before he died.
I recon it is always best to wait till the person dies. You never know what they might get up later in life and the naming might become an embarrassment and need to be changed.
:) Fair enough.
There’s gunna be a few red faces when it all comes out it was a drug overdose, hey what but.
sibeen said:
Oh, you cruel, cruel bastard. He died on Darryl Cullinan’s birthday.
LOL
sarahs mum said:
Margaret reckons he had blood clots due to a booster shot. She’s back with her people in nimben.
Tell her it is much more boring than that. Lifestyle.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Margaret reckons he had blood clots due to a booster shot. She’s back with her people in nimben.Tell her it is much more boring than that. Lifestyle.
she’s so far down the rabbit hole that she might find china soon.
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:I recon it is always best to wait till the person dies. You never know what they might get up later in life and the naming might become an embarrassment and need to be changed.
:) Fair enough.
There’s gunna be a few red faces when it all comes out it was a drug overdose, hey what but.
What a naughty munchkin you are.
sibeen said:
Oh, you cruel, cruel bastard. He died on Darryl Cullinan’s birthday.
Huh!
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Oh, you cruel, cruel bastard. He died on Darryl Cullinan’s birthday.
Huh!
he probably means Daryll…
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Oh, you cruel, cruel bastard. He died on Darryl Cullinan’s birthday.
Huh!
he probably means Daryll…
I thought it’d be quite cruel to point out his error, so I didn’t.
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:Huh!
he probably means Daryll…
I thought it’d be quite cruel to point out his error, so I didn’t.
I have no qualms.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:he probably means Daryll…
I thought it’d be quite cruel to point out his error, so I didn’t.
I have no qualms.
qualmlessness.
I read a comment that his last tweet was offering condolences to the Marsh family.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Margaret reckons he had blood clots due to a booster shot. She’s back with her people in nimben.Tell her it is much more boring than that. Lifestyle.
she’s so far down the rabbit hole that she might find china soon.
mmm not sure they take kindly to disinformation
Woodie said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:I recon it is always best to wait till the person dies. You never know what they might get up later in life and the naming might become an embarrassment and need to be changed.
:) Fair enough.
There’s gunna be a few red faces when it all comes out it was a drug overdose, hey what but.
This is why I suggested they should have waited until the dust settles. I mean, they announced it less than 12 hours after he died without any information about the circumstances. There are many reasons a single middle aged man goes to Thailand and it isn’t usually for the culture and history. Just saying…
furious said:
Woodie said:
roughbarked said::) Fair enough.
There’s gunna be a few red faces when it all comes out it was a drug overdose, hey what but.
This is why I suggested they should have waited until the dust settles. I mean, they announced it less than 12 hours after he died without any information about the circumstances. There are many reasons a single middle aged man goes to Thailand and it isn’t usually for the culture and history. Just saying…
According to the ABC news he was at some sort of (expensive) health resort.
Spin doctor
Shane Warne was the finest bowler of his generation of cricketers
Leg-spin bowling is an almost impossible art; no one mastered it like him
Mar 4th 2022
There is surely no more enigmatic skill in all of sport than leg-spin bowling. To be a “leggie” a cricketer does not need the lithe athleticism of a fast bowler, capable of hurling a ball at a cowering batsman at 140km an hour. Nor can he rely on the monotony of the off-spinner, whose trade depends on landing the ball in the same spot, time after time, spinning the ball just enough to dissuade the batsman from taking a risk against him. Rather, leg-spinners are cricket’s magicians. Often erratic, but able to spin the ball viciously and in either direction. If fast bowlers terrify, leg-spinners bamboozle.
Of all who have attempted to master this most difficult of arts, Shane Warne, who died aged just 52 on March 4th, was the finest in the modern game’s near-150-year history. Mr Warne took 708 Test wickets for Australia between 1992 and 2007, at the time the most that any bowler had claimed. Brash, bleach-haired and beer-bellied, he was not the archetypal sportsman. But he could control a cricket ball as if it were a marionette dancing on a string.
Consider Mr Warne’s first ball in a Test (five-day) match in England, against Australia’s old enemy. It is perhaps the most famous delivery in the history of the game. It came in 1993, at Old Trafford in Manchester. Ambling up to bowl, Mr Warne drifted the ball several feet to the left of the batsman’s legs—so wide, in fact, that the hapless striker, Mike Gatting, merely peered at it disdainfully. To his horror the ball then spat across him, knocking the top of his off stump. Mr Gatting, one of England’s finest batsmen of the time, could be seen after play had finished staring at the pitch, trying to work out just how far the ball had spun.
The perplexed aftermath of that dismissal would have pleased Mr Warne as much as the act itself, for he loved the psychology of the game. To him, dominating a batsman was as much about getting into his mind as bowling an unplayable delivery. Before every series, it seemed, he would invent a new, “magic” delivery. It was not enough that he possess the most potent leg-break in the game (the ball that spits from right to left). Or that his “googly” (which turns the opposite way) was unreadable. Or indeed that he had a destructive top-spinner. He also threw down “flippers”—which, with a click of the fingers, skidded straight on off the pitch. And “zooters”, which no one seemed to be able to define.
But the mind games were nothing without Mr Warne’s remarkable skill and dexterity. For those who have never considered cricket’s greatest art, pick up your nearest spherical object. Imagine bowling it with your right arm—elbow straight—and getting the ball to spin viciously from right to left, with a snap of the wrist, the ball flicked behind the forefingers. Now imagine being able to bowl it out of the back of your hand, so the ball spins in the opposite direction, from left to right—without the batsman being able to pick up on the change of action.
It was the mastery of such a seemingly impossible skill that, to cricket-mad Australians, made Mr Warne perhaps the most celebrated sporting figure of the past 50 years. But it was not only the athletic talent. They also admired the keen, analytical brain that afterwards propelled him into the commentary box and into coaching gigs around the world. And, perhaps most of all, they loved the “sledging”—the foul-mouthed and cocky tirades he would hurl at batsmen. It was, he said, never done out of spite, but rather out of a belief that any way he could unsettle an opponent was fair game. With such mastery over a cricket ball, he scarcely needed it. But it was all part of the art: scrambling a batsman’s brains before triumphantly skewing his stumps.
https://www.economist.com/culture/2022/03/04/shane-warne-was-the-finest-bowler-of-his-generation-of-cricketers?
like seagulls onto a chip.
JudgeMental said:
like seagulls onto a chip.
next they’ll be accusing the “COVID-19 Causes Cardiovascular Disease” alarmists of spreading disinformation
dv said:
Do you think that’s her natural hair?
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Do you think that’s her natural hair?
Do you think that’s his natural hair?
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Do you think that’s her natural hair?
Do you think that’s his natural hair?
yeah, yeah.
Police say he was seeing a spin doctor about his heart, apparently.
I suppose you all know that I am no cricket fan. I know of Shane Warne more by all the goofy things he did. But last night I watched a youtube with 10 of his best bowls and yeah..shit hot magic.
in his later role as a cricket commentator he could be brilliant. If he had a co-host who kept him talking about the cricket he was very insightful and very knowledgeable about the game. He really was a thinker and quite a tactician/strategist.
However, with his personality as it was, if he had a co-host who was in awe of him and just let him talk, he’d soon drift off into any old random shit and just waffle on and on.
He needed a bit of guidance.
party_pants said:
in his later role as a cricket commentator he could be brilliant. If he had a co-host who kept him talking about the cricket he was very insightful and very knowledgeable about the game. He really was a thinker and quite a tactician/strategist.However, with his personality as it was, if he had a co-host who was in awe of him and just let him talk, he’d soon drift off into any old random shit and just waffle on and on.
He needed a bit of guidance.
Mr arts says he is glad he won’t have to listen to the commentary.
Another thing about Warne is that he was an exceptional slips fieldsman which is highly unusual for a spin bowler.
apparently died of ‘natural causes’.
‘Detox’ or ‘juice’ diets such as that undertaken by Shane Warne are risky for heart health, experts say
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-08/shane-warne-extreme-diets-nutrition-heart-health/100887810
If the sudden death of cricketer Shane Warne sent shockwaves around the globe, the subsequent revelation that the spin bowler was on a “fluid-only” diet for two weeks prior has sounded the alarm on the dangers of extreme dieting for heart health.
Key points:
After Warne’s death from a suspected heart attack in Thailand, his manager James Erskine said the cricket legend had recently finished a “ridiculous diet” where he consumed only “black and green juices” for two weeks.
Nicole Bando, an accredited dietitian based in Melbourne, said so-called “detox” or “juice” diets were potentially dangerous because they involve the removal of whole food groups, including important nutrients, from a person’s diet.
“If you do , it can actually lead to a dilution in electrolytes — which are the salts in our blood,” she said.
“These include potassium which is involved in conducting electricity, and therefore the function of the heart.”
more..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-08/shane-warne-extreme-diets-nutrition-heart-health/100887810
Classy interview with Greg Chappell on Shane Warne.
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/sport/warnie-didnt-do-drugs-greg-chappell-hits-out-at-stories-surrounding-stars-death/video/3adc97ee9965174d1ea5a2e7187a0be4
The blond bombshell
Shane Warne believed that cricket should always be fun
The best-ever leg-break bowler died on March 4th, aged 52
Mar 12th 2022
If someone invited him to a fancy restaurant, Shane Warne could tell them there wasn’t much point. A white-bread cheese sandwich or a bag of chips was just as good for him. Spaghetti bolognese was as far as he went in the gourmet department. And there wasn’t much to beat those warm pies you could buy at stalls, the ones he could demolish in about 30 seconds, with that sauce that inevitably ran down his chin and dribbled all over his jacket.
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He drank, too. Not only Castlemaine, Foster’s and other patriotic brews, but the pints he downed in England in his winter seasons, when he discovered pubs. Those really put the weight on. He smoked like a chimney, lighting up a fag as soon as the dawn broke. His credo was “Eat. Go. Party!”, and there were plenty of high jinks to keep the tabloids happy. “Two drinks and two girls later,” began a sentence in his autobiography, and it could have started dozens.
He forgot all that, though, when he walked onto a cricket field. It was as if someone had shut the door behind him. The only traces of playboy were the peroxide hair, the chunky waistline and the sexily unbuttoned shirt, as well as the wildly joyous celebrations when he knocked a batsman over. And there were many, many of those: 708 wickets in Test matches, 293 in one-day internationals, at an average of merely 25.5 runs apiece. Certain spells of skill stood out, such as his 7 for 56 against the then-formidable West Indies in 1992 and, in 1994, his 8 for 71 against England. Perhaps the sweetest moment was when he became the first bowler to take 700 Test wickets, at his home ground in Melbourne, when he leapt off careering round the ‘G as if he was demented.
His secret, a very public one, was that he was a masterly leg-spinner. In an era when most bowling tended to be fast and brutal, his was slow, subtle and cunning. He made it slower by ambling to the crease, quickening for a couple of steps, passing the ball nonchalantly from left hand to demon right, then letting the ball rip, drift and bounce to the batsman’s left and spin in sharply, sometimes square, to hit the leg stump or be snicked to a nearby catcher. The ruse was often invisible, and he had many ways to disguise it, sending the ball low and spinless (a slider), spinning backwards (a zooter), or with his hand actually facing the other way (a wrong ‘un, called a googly by Poms). His favourite was the back-spin flipper, launched with a snap of thumb and forefinger to fizz out of his hand and skid fast and low off the pitch. His greatest delight was not a wicket destroyed but the look of total incredulity on the batsman’s face, as when in his first Ashes Test against England in 1993, and with his first ball, he bamboozled Mike Gatting with a choice Warnie leg-break, “the ball of the century”, and Gatting walked off shaking his head.
He had other weapons, too. He was a strategist, planning his moves about six balls ahead, and a psychologist, always seeking to unsettle a batsman. (Off the field, he became a high-level poker player.) Cricket was both a fierce team game and a duel between two men. Plenty of unsettling he could do with his bowling, luring his opponent out of his crease, or making him think that something special was happening, even when it wasn’t. Sledging, or casual taunting, also came in handy, and he loved it, even when he was sledged back. “Come on, you know you want to!” he would tell a batsman who was tempted to slog it. Or, to any player undone with nerves, “I’ve been waiting so long for this!” The only batsmen who regularly frustrated him were Brian Lara of the West Indies, Kevin Pietersen of England and Sachin Tendulkar of India, for all of whom he had immense respect—off the field, at least.
To find himself a cricketer was surprising. He played a bit as a boy, enough to know that his big strong hands and wrists, a present from his sporty Mum and Dad, were ideal for a spinner. But as a teenager he mostly wanted to play Australian Rules Football, where some stars drove Ferraris and wore ear-studs. (He did both those later, the Ferrari only one of a fleet of beautiful cars.) It took Kerry Packer’s World Series, launched in 1977, to prove to him that cricket could be just as cool.
In the national team he struggled at first, doing badly in his first two Tests against India. He wasn’t ready. But between 1993 and 1998, after rigorous training and dieting with Terry Jenner at the National Cricket Academy, he bowled like a dream. There were ups and downs thereafter, but his career averages were extraordinary. Besides the bowling he was no slouch with the bat, scoring 6,919 first-class runs, and a nifty fielder, especially in close at slip. “Wisden’s Almanack” reckoned him one of the five greatest cricketers of the 20th century, right along with Don Bradman and Garfield Sobers, and the only bowler.
Off the field the scandals went on, including accepting money from an Indian bookmaker in 1994 to supply pre-match information, sending explicit messages, sleeping with porn stars and, on the very eve of the World Cup in 2003, failing a drugs test. Such missteps cost him his chance to captain Australia. That was a shame, as he knew he was a first-rate motivator, both from the one-day internationals he captained and the two teams, Hampshire and the Rajasthan Royals, whom he proudly led to victory.
His legions of fans kept the faith through thick and thin. Warnie had done his all for Australian cricket, and under that cocky charisma, which nearly snared Elizabeth Hurley as his bride, there was, besides, a friendly and ordinary bloke, whose favourite meal was Vegemite toast, who never refused a fan an autograph and who had never finished a book in his life. To see his name in lights was fine, but he didn’t need it. He played cricket because it was fun for him and fun for other people. He retired from internationals in 2007 (having at last run out of arse), lamenting the way the game was now seen as a job and a business, although he had profited from that as much as anyone. There seemed no place now for characters like himself, true entertainers. He had made mistakes, sure, been silly, but that was because he was only human, no better than anyone else. Except at one thing.
https://www.economist.com/obituary/2022/03/12/shane-warne-believed-that-cricket-should-always-be-fun
Seems Marsh was Farrah Fawcett to Warne’s Michael Jackson.
dv said:
Seems Marsh was Farrah Fawcett to Warne’s Michael Jackson.
Not sure Warne would be entirely happy with that analogy.
It would seem that lettuce could have kept Warnie alive longer.
Among the lighter moments, Irons recalls a trip to McDonalds on the way home from a game at Assumption College.
“Shane bought a Big Mac, promptly took all the lettuce and good things out and put chips inside instead,” he says.
“The lettuce had no place in his diet at all.”
