Date: 10/03/2022 18:05:37
From: dv
ID: 1858800
Subject: Hungarian politics

The upcoming Hungarian election could be close. They run a kind of mixed member system somwhat akin to NZ , but the limits mean the spoiler effect is still a thing. In 2018 Victor Orban’s party got two thirds of the seats off 48% of the vote due to a splintered opposition.
Last year the six major opposition parties held a series of primaries to select a PM candidate and also constituency candidates (the first such primaries in Hungarian history), and will run under a single United for Hungary banner. Polling is close.

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Date: 10/03/2022 23:29:47
From: dv
ID: 1858923
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Honestly it would be good if the British opposition parties could swallow their pride and do something like that…

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Date: 11/03/2022 17:11:35
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1859197
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

dv said:


The upcoming Hungarian election could be close. They run a kind of mixed member system somwhat akin to NZ , but the limits mean the spoiler effect is still a thing. In 2018 Victor Orban’s party got two thirds of the seats off 48% of the vote due to a splintered opposition.
Last year the six major opposition parties held a series of primaries to select a PM candidate and also constituency candidates (the first such primaries in Hungarian history), and will run under a single United for Hungary banner. Polling is close.

Very interesting.

Let’s see what those parties are.

The Christian right wingers have it. They themselves are an alliance of two parties.

The six centre-left have banded together into “United for Hungary”. These are all very small.

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Date: 11/03/2022 18:31:51
From: dv
ID: 1859224
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Yes it’s an very broad alliance, much like the one that saw Netanyahu off.

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Date: 4/04/2022 09:41:44
From: dv
ID: 1868667
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

The late polling broke Orban’s way, 53% odd, and it does appear the result is going to be something like that.

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Date: 4/04/2022 09:43:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1868670
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Democracy That We Don’t Like The Outcome Of Is Communism

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Date: 4/04/2022 09:55:56
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1868671
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

SCIENCE said:


Democracy That We Don’t Like The Outcome Of Is Communism

Fascism in this case.

And there are usually plenty of allegations of fraud in Orban’s election victories.

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Date: 5/04/2022 01:17:38
From: dv
ID: 1868971
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

There was another election in Europe last weekend, parliamentary and presidential elections in Serbia, but this was not expected to be close and indeed it was not.
Pro-Putin SNS leader Aleksandar Vučić won the presidential election with about 60% of the vote. In the Parliamentary elections, the SNS-led coalition (whose name is and I’m not making this up Aleksandar Vučić – Together We Can Do Everything) is going to fall short of a majority but they will be able to govern with support of far right parties.

So all in all a good weekend for Putin apart from the war.

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Date: 5/04/2022 01:22:04
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1868972
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

dv said:


There was another election in Europe last weekend, parliamentary and presidential elections in Serbia, but this was not expected to be close and indeed it was not.
Pro-Putin SNS leader Aleksandar Vučić won the presidential election with about 60% of the vote. In the Parliamentary elections, the SNS-led coalition (whose name is and I’m not making this up Aleksandar Vučić – Together We Can Do Everything) is going to fall short of a majority but they will be able to govern with support of far right parties.

So all in all a good weekend for Putin apart from the war.

Nasty backward people wanna stay backward and nasty.

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Date: 5/04/2022 01:23:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1868973
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

There was another election in Europe last weekend, parliamentary and presidential elections in Serbia, but this was not expected to be close and indeed it was not.
Pro-Putin SNS leader Aleksandar Vučić won the presidential election with about 60% of the vote. In the Parliamentary elections, the SNS-led coalition (whose name is and I’m not making this up Aleksandar Vučić – Together We Can Do Everything) is going to fall short of a majority but they will be able to govern with support of far right parties.

So all in all a good weekend for Putin apart from the war.

Nasty backward people wanna stay backward and nasty.

how’s the tennis been lately

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Date: 27/07/2022 19:13:04
From: dv
ID: 1913741
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62313579
Hungary PM Viktor Orban adviser Hegedus resigns over ‘pure Nazi’ speech
A member of Viktor Orban’s inner circle has resigned after the Hungarian prime minister spoke out against becoming “peoples of mixed race”.
Zsuzsa Hegedus, who has known the nationalist Mr Orban for 20 years, described the speech as a “pure Nazi text”, according to Hungarian media.
The International Auschwitz Committee of Holocaust survivors called the speech “stupid and dangerous”.
Mr Orban’s spokesman said the media had misrepresented the comments.
The speech took place on Saturday in a region of Romania which has a large Hungarian community.
In it, Mr Orban said European peoples should be free to mix with one another, but that mixing with non-Europeans created a “mixed-race world”.
“We are willing to mix with one another, but we do not want to become peoples of mixed race,” he said.
Mr Orban’s anti-migration views are well known, but for Ms Hegedus, Saturday’s speech crossed a line.
“I don’t know how you didn’t notice that the speech you delivered is a purely Nazi diatribe worthy of Joseph Goebbels,” she wrote in her resignation letter, according to the Hungarian hvg.hu news website.

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Date: 13/03/2025 14:13:10
From: dv
ID: 2260059
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

https://youtu.be/D6IxiwBKla0?si=DxKXPQ4XgsJd_2Tb

Orban may block European military buildup. EU leaders mull ways to expel Hungary from the Union.

The political situation in Hungary is unusual in that the polling is dominated by two centre-right parties who are both opposed to helping Ukraine: even if the opposition party (Tisza) wins after next year’s elections, the EU might still be faced with the same problem.

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Date: 22/03/2025 23:47:44
From: dv
ID: 2263769
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

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Date: 22/03/2025 23:59:39
From: party_pants
ID: 2263773
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

dv said:



time for expulsion.

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Date: 23/03/2025 00:01:06
From: dv
ID: 2263776
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

party_pants said:


dv said:


time for expulsion.

Or maybe a constitutional change that lowers the bar for measures to pass. Unanimity is tough.

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Date: 18/12/2025 18:30:17
From: dv
ID: 2342752
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Orban’s plans for a switch to the Presidency

https://youtu.be/HgP-vT8NfAY?si=DHpzWfWkbDbKmFLo

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Date: 23/02/2026 20:47:01
From: dv
ID: 2363501
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

https://youtu.be/Z0n59LI1b9o?si=XiHFQiUVOWL13_mP

TLDR News
Orban’s fall seems inevitable: an analysis of the upcoming election

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Date: 27/02/2026 14:16:57
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2364643
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Hungary’s opposition Tisza party widens its lead ahead of Orban’s Fidesz

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/hungarys-opposition-tisza-party-widens-its-lead-ahead-orbans-fidesz-2026-02-25/

Good.

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Date: 27/02/2026 14:19:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2364645
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Witty Rejoinder said:

Hungary’s opposition Tisza party widens its lead ahead of Orban’s Fidesz

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/hungarys-opposition-tisza-party-widens-its-lead-ahead-orbans-fidesz-2026-02-25/

Good.

so just to clarify per quick search

Tisza party is centre-right

Orban’s Fidesz is far-right in stark contrast to Original Fidesz which was centre-left

¿ is that correct ?

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Date: 2/04/2026 14:43:09
From: dv
ID: 2375773
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

I started this thread by saying the upcoming Hungarian election could be close. That was in 2022.

The upcoming Hungarian election could be close.

In the polling averages, Viktor Orban’s Fidesz party (43%) has slipped behind Tisza (46%), led by Peter Magyar.

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Date: 2/04/2026 14:44:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 2375774
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

dv said:


I started this thread by saying the upcoming Hungarian election could be close. That was in 2022.

The upcoming Hungarian election could be close.

In the polling averages, Viktor Orban’s Fidesz party (43%) has slipped behind Tisza (46%), led by Peter Magyar.

Good news.

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Date: 2/04/2026 14:57:46
From: Michael V
ID: 2375785
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

dv said:


I started this thread by saying the upcoming Hungarian election could be close. That was in 2022.

The upcoming Hungarian election could be close.

In the polling averages, Viktor Orban’s Fidesz party (43%) has slipped behind Tisza (46%), led by Peter Magyar.

Peter Magyar; an interesting name for a Hungarian.

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Date: 8/04/2026 00:32:52
From: dv
ID: 2377775
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

While all this is going on, Vice President JD Vance is in Hungary, campaigning for Viktor Orban.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyv16lq2rp1o

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Date: 10/04/2026 17:38:34
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2378883
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Carrick Ryan

Sunday’s Parliamentary elections in Hungary are incredibly consequential for a host of geopolitical reasons, especially in regard to Europe and Ukraine. But it also presents a fascinating insight into what the 2028 US Presidential election might feel like, if the current trajectory continues.

It’s important to note that Viktor Orbán is not a dictator; he has held power for 14 years because he has won four elections that were widely acknowledged as free… the concern many in the West have is whether these elections have been fair.

Crucially, it must be acknowledged that he is genuinely popular in Hungary, and has a cult like following from his base who see him as a national saviour from the moral depravity of “woke ideology”. They believe that only Orban can keep Hungary’s borders secure and stop Muslims from eroding what has always been, in their view, a deeply Christian society.

They also see his close alignment with Russia as a quality, not a concern. Many are convinced that the EU and Ukraine are attempting to provoke Russia into all out war, and they believe that only Orban will prevent Hungary from an inevitable catastrophic conflict.

But when you hear a lot of his supporters talk, the reasons they provide for their passionate devotion are almost always constructed of demonstrable, and often bizarre, disinformation.

Many supporters vehemently believe, with unsettling certainty, that an Orban electoral loss will mean that Hungarian men will be almost immediately conscripted to fight in Ukraine against Russia. They don’t mean that as a hyperbole, that is what a huge portion of them genuinely believe.

So why does a Prime Minister who has overseen one of the worst performing economies in Europe and become a pariah amongst the West, with credible allegations of jaw dropping corruption, still have so much support that this election is even close?

Primarily, it’s three things. He took control of the media, took control of the courts, and enjoys the active support of the Russian information warfare machine.

Orbán is not just hostile to any media that reports critically of him, he uses the power of the state to silence them. Almost all of the largest news outlets in the country are owned by oligarchs who provide favourable coverage in return for favourable regulations or lucrative government contracts.

As a result, studies estimate that 64% of political media is pro-government, rising to 78% when you include state media. Those outlets that remain independent experience unapologetic intimidation and harassment from Orban and his supporters, who see them as the enemy of the people.

Meanwhile, Orban’s party has a conducted a sustained campaign of appointing loyal judges to the judiciary. The result is a judiciary that still functions, but is less willing and less able to challenge the government, especially on questions regarding Orbán’s clear abuses of power.

What should not be understated is the manner in which Kremlin narratives infiltrate every level of the information ecosystem in Hungary. Whether it’s the illogical arguments of “NATO expansion”, conspiracy theories intended to build a deep suspicion of the EU and International institutions, and the theme of civilisational decline in the West. These are systematically promoted on every social media platform and then amplified by state media.

The result is a deeply polarised society where a person’s deep seated fears for this election is determined by their siloed news feed.

If that all sounds familiar, then you now understand why JD Vance was just in Budapest, breaking countless diplomatic conventions, campaigning for Viktor Orbán’s party. Trump even dialled in to offer his support, after already publishing several social media posts urging Hungarians to vote for him.

Interestingly, the man looking to unseat Orbán is not a liberal progressive campaigning on opposing every policy point. In fact, Péter Magyar is another conservative, and was even a former member of Orbán’s party. He actually shares many of Orbán’s more populist policies, while but has focussed on highlighting the issues of government corruption and authoritarian backsliding.

While the political systems of Hungary and the USA are structurally very different, many around the world will be watching closely to see if this is the strategy needed to succeed in what Orbán himself proudly calls an “illiberal democracy”.

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Date: 13/04/2026 06:52:15
From: dv
ID: 2379832
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

It appears TISZA, led by Peter Magyar, has around 136 seats out of 199. This means they will be able to amend the constitution.

To his credit, Viktor Orban conceded defeat very early in the evening.

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Date: 13/04/2026 07:13:38
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 2379837
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

dv said:


It appears TISZA, led by Peter Magyar, has around 136 seats out of 199. This means they will be able to amend the constitution.

To his credit, Viktor Orban conceded defeat very early in the evening.

good to see a honest transition.

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Date: 13/04/2026 07:23:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 2379840
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Bogsnorkler said:


dv said:

It appears TISZA, led by Peter Magyar, has around 136 seats out of 199. This means they will be able to amend the constitution.

To his credit, Viktor Orban conceded defeat very early in the evening.

good to see a honest transition.

Looks like he got flogged at the election.

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Date: 13/04/2026 07:25:35
From: dv
ID: 2379841
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Can we get JDV to come out in 2028 to campaign for One Nation?

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Date: 13/04/2026 07:50:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2379846
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Bogsnorkler said:


dv said:

It appears TISZA, led by Peter Magyar, has around 136 seats out of 199. This means they will be able to amend the constitution.

To his credit, Viktor Orban conceded defeat very early in the evening.

good to see a honest transition.

from the master to the student

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Date: 13/04/2026 10:22:46
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2379924
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Never did I think I’d be posting in Hungarian politics.

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Date: 13/04/2026 10:29:12
From: dv
ID: 2379927
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Hopefully Vance will campaign for Erdogan next, he’ll enjoy getting stuck into the Ottomans

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Date: 13/04/2026 10:31:30
From: Divine Angel
ID: 2379929
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

dv said:


Hopefully Vance will campaign for Erdogan next, he’ll enjoy getting stuck into the Ottomans

snigger

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Date: 13/04/2026 11:17:35
From: Michael V
ID: 2379949
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

dv said:


Hopefully Vance will campaign for Erdogan next, he’ll enjoy getting stuck into the Ottomans

:)

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Date: 13/04/2026 11:22:16
From: Cymek
ID: 2379954
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Michael V said:


dv said:

Hopefully Vance will campaign for Erdogan next, he’ll enjoy getting stuck into the Ottomans

:)

At least he can put his feet up

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Date: 13/04/2026 11:54:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2379970
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Divine Angel said:


Never did I think I’d be posting in Hungarian politics.


why does he try to get the Thanos look

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Date: 13/04/2026 15:17:00
From: ruby
ID: 2380066
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

dv said:


It appears TISZA, led by Peter Magyar, has around 136 seats out of 199. This means they will be able to amend the constitution.

I wonder if Hungary can get a refund on their seat on The Board Of Peace

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Date: 13/04/2026 15:58:52
From: Michael V
ID: 2380094
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

ruby said:


dv said:

It appears TISZA, led by Peter Magyar, has around 136 seats out of 199. This means they will be able to amend the constitution.

I wonder if Hungary can get a refund on their seat on The Board Of Peace

LOLOLOL

Most unlikely. That’s just a straight-up direct donation to a special Trump slush fund.

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Date: 13/04/2026 16:31:16
From: Cymek
ID: 2380106
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Michael V said:


ruby said:

dv said:

It appears TISZA, led by Peter Magyar, has around 136 seats out of 199. This means they will be able to amend the constitution.

I wonder if Hungary can get a refund on their seat on The Board Of Peace

LOLOLOL

Most unlikely. That’s just a straight-up direct donation to a special Trump slush fund.

They are probably more upset the buffet lunch was cancelled

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Date: 16/04/2026 00:00:11
From: Kingy
ID: 2380906
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

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Date: 16/04/2026 02:22:45
From: dv
ID: 2380916
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Have we discussed that Peter Magyar discovered that Orban was funnelling funds from Russia to CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference in the USA.

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Date: 16/04/2026 06:43:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 2380919
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

dv said:


Have we discussed that Peter Magyar discovered that Orban was funnelling funds from Russia to CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference in the USA.

wait so who are the bad guys

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Date: 16/04/2026 08:00:28
From: ruby
ID: 2380930
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

dv said:


Have we discussed that Peter Magyar discovered that Orban was funnelling funds from Russia to CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference in the USA.

This needs to be discussed rather more than it is. Gobsmacking

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Date: 16/04/2026 08:18:38
From: Michael V
ID: 2380934
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

ruby said:


dv said:

Have we discussed that Peter Magyar discovered that Orban was funnelling funds from Russia to CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference in the USA.

This needs to be discussed rather more than it is. Gobsmacking

I find the new leader’s name amusing. It’s like the Prime Minister of Australia’s name being “Peter Australian”.

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Date: 16/04/2026 08:27:47
From: ruby
ID: 2380937
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Michael V said:


ruby said:

dv said:

Have we discussed that Peter Magyar discovered that Orban was funnelling funds from Russia to CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference in the USA.

This needs to be discussed rather more than it is. Gobsmacking

I find the new leader’s name amusing. It’s like the Prime Minister of Australia’s name being “Peter Australian”.

Oh, I didn’t know that. That is so good

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Date: 16/04/2026 09:22:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 2380954
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Michael V said:


ruby said:

dv said:

Have we discussed that Peter Magyar discovered that Orban was funnelling funds from Russia to CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference in the USA.

This needs to be discussed rather more than it is. Gobsmacking

I find the new leader’s name amusing. It’s like the Prime Minister of Australia’s name being “Peter Australian”.

Except that the name sounds Dutch.

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Date: 16/04/2026 09:44:28
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 2380962
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

That’s certainly a good win for the center right.

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Date: 16/04/2026 10:05:14
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2380965
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

dv said:


Have we discussed that Peter Magyar discovered that Orban was funnelling funds from Russia to CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference in the USA.

No. Those crazy Ruskies!

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Date: 16/04/2026 10:08:24
From: Michael V
ID: 2380970
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

ruby said:

This needs to be discussed rather more than it is. Gobsmacking

I find the new leader’s name amusing. It’s like the Prime Minister of Australia’s name being “Peter Australian”.

Except that the name sounds Dutch.

“Hungarians, also known as Magyars, are an ethnic group native to Hungary (Magyarország), who share a common culture, language, history and ancestry. “

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarians

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Date: 16/04/2026 10:10:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 2380973
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

I find the new leader’s name amusing. It’s like the Prime Minister of Australia’s name being “Peter Australian”.

Except that the name sounds Dutch.

“Hungarians, also known as Magyars, are an ethnic group native to Hungary (Magyarország), who share a common culture, language, history and ancestry. “

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarians

Thanks.

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Date: 16/04/2026 10:18:37
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 2380984
Subject: re: Hungarian politics

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

I find the new leader’s name amusing. It’s like the Prime Minister of Australia’s name being “Peter Australian”.

Except that the name sounds Dutch.

“Hungarians, also known as Magyars, are an ethnic group native to Hungary (Magyarország), who share a common culture, language, history and ancestry. “

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarians

Huns the lot of them!

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