Date: 23/03/2022 08:36:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1863953
Subject: Those Brumbies again.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-23/snowy-mountains-high-country-brumby-reserve/100928684

Brumby reserve mooted as solution to Kosciuszko National Park’s wild horse problem.

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:19:15
From: Michael V
ID: 1863990
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

roughbarked said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-23/snowy-mountains-high-country-brumby-reserve/100928684

Brumby reserve mooted as solution to Kosciuszko National Park’s wild horse problem.

Sounds workable.

Personally, I think Australians need to get over the “we can’t eat horses, goats or camels” thing and start humanely capturing, slaughtering, butchering and marketing these (likely quite tasty) feral animals.

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:19:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1863991
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-23/snowy-mountains-high-country-brumby-reserve/100928684

Brumby reserve mooted as solution to Kosciuszko National Park’s wild horse problem.

Sounds workable.

Personally, I think Australians need to get over the “we can’t eat horses, goats or camels” thing and start humanely capturing, slaughtering, butchering and marketing these (likely quite tasty) feral animals.

Strangely enough, I agree. ;)

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:24:18
From: Tamb
ID: 1863993
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-23/snowy-mountains-high-country-brumby-reserve/100928684

Brumby reserve mooted as solution to Kosciuszko National Park’s wild horse problem.

Sounds workable.

Personally, I think Australians need to get over the “we can’t eat horses, goats or camels” thing and start humanely capturing, slaughtering, butchering and marketing these (likely quite tasty) feral animals.


Morning all.
I’ve eaten horse in Mongolia. Quite tasty.
Mz Tamb refused.

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:25:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1863996
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

Tamb said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-23/snowy-mountains-high-country-brumby-reserve/100928684

Brumby reserve mooted as solution to Kosciuszko National Park’s wild horse problem.

Sounds workable.

Personally, I think Australians need to get over the “we can’t eat horses, goats or camels” thing and start humanely capturing, slaughtering, butchering and marketing these (likely quite tasty) feral animals.


Morning all.
I’ve eaten horse in Mongolia. Quite tasty.
Mz Tamb refused.

Wild horse?

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:27:22
From: Michael V
ID: 1863998
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-23/snowy-mountains-high-country-brumby-reserve/100928684

Brumby reserve mooted as solution to Kosciuszko National Park’s wild horse problem.

Sounds workable.

Personally, I think Australians need to get over the “we can’t eat horses, goats or camels” thing and start humanely capturing, slaughtering, butchering and marketing these (likely quite tasty) feral animals.

Strangely enough, I agree. ;)

I hate seeing potentially good food wasted.

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:28:39
From: Michael V
ID: 1864000
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

Tamb said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-23/snowy-mountains-high-country-brumby-reserve/100928684

Brumby reserve mooted as solution to Kosciuszko National Park’s wild horse problem.

Sounds workable.

Personally, I think Australians need to get over the “we can’t eat horses, goats or camels” thing and start humanely capturing, slaughtering, butchering and marketing these (likely quite tasty) feral animals.


Morning all.
I’ve eaten horse in Mongolia. Quite tasty.
Mz Tamb refused.

I’d certainly give horse meat a try.

I have eaten both feral and farmed goat and feral camel.

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:29:41
From: Tamb
ID: 1864003
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Sounds workable.

Personally, I think Australians need to get over the “we can’t eat horses, goats or camels” thing and start humanely capturing, slaughtering, butchering and marketing these (likely quite tasty) feral animals.


Morning all.
I’ve eaten horse in Mongolia. Quite tasty.
Mz Tamb refused.

Wild horse?


Semi. Free range but owned by a herdsman.

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:29:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1864004
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

what’s the hangup about eating meat anyway

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:33:06
From: Tamb
ID: 1864005
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Sounds workable.

Personally, I think Australians need to get over the “we can’t eat horses, goats or camels” thing and start humanely capturing, slaughtering, butchering and marketing these (likely quite tasty) feral animals.


Morning all.
I’ve eaten horse in Mongolia. Quite tasty.
Mz Tamb refused.

I’d certainly give horse meat a try.

I have eaten both feral and farmed goat and feral camel.


Haven’t had camel (that I know of. Same with Yak)
Goat kebab with peanut sauce is Mmmm.

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:33:47
From: buffy
ID: 1864006
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-23/snowy-mountains-high-country-brumby-reserve/100928684

Brumby reserve mooted as solution to Kosciuszko National Park’s wild horse problem.

Sounds workable.

Personally, I think Australians need to get over the “we can’t eat horses, goats or camels” thing and start humanely capturing, slaughtering, butchering and marketing these (likely quite tasty) feral animals.

They were being used for pet meat for dogs. Until last year when some of the dogs were dying from what the horses et. I haven’t been able to buy raw pet meat since.

“Toxicology reports indicate horse and camel meat from the Northern Territory contained indospicine, a plant toxin that has a traumatic effect on the livers of dogs.”

From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-08/pet-food-standards-victorian-dog-deaths/100345844

The meat I used to get was from a local knackery in Western Victoria, but the stuff that caused trouble came from a Gippsland knackery. However, that particular toxin doesn’t affect humans, as far as I recall. I remember it not just because I could no longer get the meat, but also because when it started I made an offhand comment to Mr buffy that “perhaps they were using brumby meat”. Which turned out not to be so far from the reality.

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:41:09
From: buffy
ID: 1864012
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Sounds workable.

Personally, I think Australians need to get over the “we can’t eat horses, goats or camels” thing and start humanely capturing, slaughtering, butchering and marketing these (likely quite tasty) feral animals.


Morning all.
I’ve eaten horse in Mongolia. Quite tasty.
Mz Tamb refused.

I’d certainly give horse meat a try.

I have eaten both feral and farmed goat and feral camel.

I’m not a traveller so my contact with “exotic” meats has been limited. But for a while about 20 years ago at Brambuk (seems it is closed at the moment) at Halls Gap you could have crocodile and emu (I think it was) sausages or burgers in the cafe. I tried the crocodile, but if I remember rightly I had a cold at the time so I couldn’t really taste anything much. They haven’t done it recently, as far as I know.

https://www.parks.vic.gov.au/places-to-see/parks/grampians-national-park/attractions/central-grampians/things-to-do/brambuk-the-national-park-and-cultural-centre?utm_source=google&utm_medium=maps&utm_campaign=GMB-2020

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:48:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1864017
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

buffy said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-23/snowy-mountains-high-country-brumby-reserve/100928684

Brumby reserve mooted as solution to Kosciuszko National Park’s wild horse problem.

Sounds workable.

Personally, I think Australians need to get over the “we can’t eat horses, goats or camels” thing and start humanely capturing, slaughtering, butchering and marketing these (likely quite tasty) feral animals.

They were being used for pet meat for dogs. Until last year when some of the dogs were dying from what the horses et. I haven’t been able to buy raw pet meat since.

“Toxicology reports indicate horse and camel meat from the Northern Territory contained indospicine, a plant toxin that has a traumatic effect on the livers of dogs.”

From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-08/pet-food-standards-victorian-dog-deaths/100345844

The meat I used to get was from a local knackery in Western Victoria, but the stuff that caused trouble came from a Gippsland knackery. However, that particular toxin doesn’t affect humans, as far as I recall. I remember it not just because I could no longer get the meat, but also because when it started I made an offhand comment to Mr buffy that “perhaps they were using brumby meat”. Which turned out not to be so far from the reality.

I wonder what other disease problems there might be associated with these various feral animals.

Brucellosis is a problem with feral pigs.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/factsheets/Pages/brucellosis-and-pig-hunting.aspx

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:51:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1864018
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

buffy said:


Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Morning all.
I’ve eaten horse in Mongolia. Quite tasty.
Mz Tamb refused.

I’d certainly give horse meat a try.

I have eaten both feral and farmed goat and feral camel.

I’m not a traveller so my contact with “exotic” meats has been limited. But for a while about 20 years ago at Brambuk (seems it is closed at the moment) at Halls Gap you could have crocodile and emu (I think it was) sausages or burgers in the cafe. I tried the crocodile, but if I remember rightly I had a cold at the time so I couldn’t really taste anything much. They haven’t done it recently, as far as I know.

https://www.parks.vic.gov.au/places-to-see/parks/grampians-national-park/attractions/central-grampians/things-to-do/brambuk-the-national-park-and-cultural-centre?utm_source=google&utm_medium=maps&utm_campaign=GMB-2020

I’ve not eaten wild crocodile. I have eaten farmed crocodile. Tasted like chicken. Probably because they feed them chickens.

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:52:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 1864020
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

Michael V said:

Sounds workable.

Personally, I think Australians need to get over the “we can’t eat horses, goats or camels” thing and start humanely capturing, slaughtering, butchering and marketing these (likely quite tasty) feral animals.

They were being used for pet meat for dogs. Until last year when some of the dogs were dying from what the horses et. I haven’t been able to buy raw pet meat since.

“Toxicology reports indicate horse and camel meat from the Northern Territory contained indospicine, a plant toxin that has a traumatic effect on the livers of dogs.”

From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-08/pet-food-standards-victorian-dog-deaths/100345844

The meat I used to get was from a local knackery in Western Victoria, but the stuff that caused trouble came from a Gippsland knackery. However, that particular toxin doesn’t affect humans, as far as I recall. I remember it not just because I could no longer get the meat, but also because when it started I made an offhand comment to Mr buffy that “perhaps they were using brumby meat”. Which turned out not to be so far from the reality.

I wonder what other disease problems there might be associated with these various feral animals.

Brucellosis is a problem with feral pigs.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/factsheets/Pages/brucellosis-and-pig-hunting.aspx

Wild boars can act as reservoirs for many important infectious diseases in domestic animals, such as classical swine fever, brucellosis and trichinellosis, and in humans, diseases such as hepatitis E, tuberculosis, leptospirosis and trichinellosis. For examples, wild boars are reservoirs for hepatitis E virus, and cluster cases of hepatitis E have been reported in Japan of humans who consumed wild boar meat. In Canada, an outbreak of trichinellosis was linked to the consumption of wild boar meat. The incidence of tuberculosis owing to Mycobacterium bovis has increased in wild boars, thus posing a potential concern for infections in livestock and humans. It has also been documented that six hunters contracted Brucella suis infections from wild swine in Florida. This article discusses the prevalence and risk of infectious agents in wild boars and their potential transmission to livestock and humans.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2865094/

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:52:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1864022
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Michael V said:

I’d certainly give horse meat a try.

I have eaten both feral and farmed goat and feral camel.

I’m not a traveller so my contact with “exotic” meats has been limited. But for a while about 20 years ago at Brambuk (seems it is closed at the moment) at Halls Gap you could have crocodile and emu (I think it was) sausages or burgers in the cafe. I tried the crocodile, but if I remember rightly I had a cold at the time so I couldn’t really taste anything much. They haven’t done it recently, as far as I know.

https://www.parks.vic.gov.au/places-to-see/parks/grampians-national-park/attractions/central-grampians/things-to-do/brambuk-the-national-park-and-cultural-centre?utm_source=google&utm_medium=maps&utm_campaign=GMB-2020

I’ve not eaten wild crocodile. I have eaten farmed crocodile. Tasted like chicken. Probably because they feed them chickens.

heh.

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Date: 23/03/2022 11:56:56
From: Michael V
ID: 1864024
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

Bubblecar said:


buffy said:

Michael V said:

Sounds workable.

Personally, I think Australians need to get over the “we can’t eat horses, goats or camels” thing and start humanely capturing, slaughtering, butchering and marketing these (likely quite tasty) feral animals.

They were being used for pet meat for dogs. Until last year when some of the dogs were dying from what the horses et. I haven’t been able to buy raw pet meat since.

“Toxicology reports indicate horse and camel meat from the Northern Territory contained indospicine, a plant toxin that has a traumatic effect on the livers of dogs.”

From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-08/pet-food-standards-victorian-dog-deaths/100345844

The meat I used to get was from a local knackery in Western Victoria, but the stuff that caused trouble came from a Gippsland knackery. However, that particular toxin doesn’t affect humans, as far as I recall. I remember it not just because I could no longer get the meat, but also because when it started I made an offhand comment to Mr buffy that “perhaps they were using brumby meat”. Which turned out not to be so far from the reality.

I wonder what other disease problems there might be associated with these various feral animals.

Brucellosis is a problem with feral pigs.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/factsheets/Pages/brucellosis-and-pig-hunting.aspx

As are liver flukes and other internal parasites. Careful butchering and thorough cooking reduces the risk.

I have eaten (extremely well cooked) feral pig. Leg meat only. It is very tasty.

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Date: 23/03/2022 12:00:15
From: buffy
ID: 1864025
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Michael V said:

I’d certainly give horse meat a try.

I have eaten both feral and farmed goat and feral camel.

I’m not a traveller so my contact with “exotic” meats has been limited. But for a while about 20 years ago at Brambuk (seems it is closed at the moment) at Halls Gap you could have crocodile and emu (I think it was) sausages or burgers in the cafe. I tried the crocodile, but if I remember rightly I had a cold at the time so I couldn’t really taste anything much. They haven’t done it recently, as far as I know.

https://www.parks.vic.gov.au/places-to-see/parks/grampians-national-park/attractions/central-grampians/things-to-do/brambuk-the-national-park-and-cultural-centre?utm_source=google&utm_medium=maps&utm_campaign=GMB-2020

I’ve not eaten wild crocodile. I have eaten farmed crocodile. Tasted like chicken. Probably because they feed them chickens.

I expect it was farmed crocodile meat being used at Brambuk at the time. Possibly farmed emu too, it’s long enough ago to have been in the time of the emu farms (that chewed up money and faded from existence).

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Date: 23/03/2022 12:02:52
From: Michael V
ID: 1864028
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

buffy said:


Michael V said:

buffy said:

I’m not a traveller so my contact with “exotic” meats has been limited. But for a while about 20 years ago at Brambuk (seems it is closed at the moment) at Halls Gap you could have crocodile and emu (I think it was) sausages or burgers in the cafe. I tried the crocodile, but if I remember rightly I had a cold at the time so I couldn’t really taste anything much. They haven’t done it recently, as far as I know.

https://www.parks.vic.gov.au/places-to-see/parks/grampians-national-park/attractions/central-grampians/things-to-do/brambuk-the-national-park-and-cultural-centre?utm_source=google&utm_medium=maps&utm_campaign=GMB-2020

I’ve not eaten wild crocodile. I have eaten farmed crocodile. Tasted like chicken. Probably because they feed them chickens.

I expect it was farmed crocodile meat being used at Brambuk at the time. Possibly farmed emu too, it’s long enough ago to have been in the time of the emu farms (that chewed up money and faded from existence).

One of the guys I was at university with still farms emus, near Ardlethan, NSW.

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Date: 23/03/2022 12:16:12
From: Tamb
ID: 1864032
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

buffy said:

I’m not a traveller so my contact with “exotic” meats has been limited. But for a while about 20 years ago at Brambuk (seems it is closed at the moment) at Halls Gap you could have crocodile and emu (I think it was) sausages or burgers in the cafe. I tried the crocodile, but if I remember rightly I had a cold at the time so I couldn’t really taste anything much. They haven’t done it recently, as far as I know.

https://www.parks.vic.gov.au/places-to-see/parks/grampians-national-park/attractions/central-grampians/things-to-do/brambuk-the-national-park-and-cultural-centre?utm_source=google&utm_medium=maps&utm_campaign=GMB-2020

I’ve not eaten wild crocodile. I have eaten farmed crocodile. Tasted like chicken. Probably because they feed them chickens.

heh.


Mz Tamb was keen on eating crocodile. She used to say she ate them because they would eat her.
Croc, to me, has a distinctive flavour. Not anything like chook.

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Date: 23/03/2022 14:13:18
From: Ian
ID: 1864071
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

“If people want to have a place where they can have their moment with wild horses in the High Country, fine let’s keep on talking. But please don’t talk about this being some last-ditch effort to save a rare heritage breed,” Professor Watson said. 

“The genetic work has been done, they are not a rare heritage breed.

No, they’re a bunch of worthless nags.. an environmental disaster.

I can’t see the Australian Brumby Alliance stomping up the millions necessary for this project or providing all of the labour gratis.

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Date: 23/03/2022 16:35:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 1864108
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

Michael V said:


buffy said:

Michael V said:

I’ve not eaten wild crocodile. I have eaten farmed crocodile. Tasted like chicken. Probably because they feed them chickens.

I expect it was farmed crocodile meat being used at Brambuk at the time. Possibly farmed emu too, it’s long enough ago to have been in the time of the emu farms (that chewed up money and faded from existence).

One of the guys I was at university with still farms emus, near Ardlethan, NSW.

I probably know him.

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Date: 23/03/2022 20:40:09
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1864166
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

It’s not a Brumbie’s fault that it’s an introduced feral.

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Date: 23/03/2022 20:42:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1864167
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

mollwollfumble said:


It’s not a Brumbie’s fault that it’s an introduced feral.

No but it is the brumby’s fault for fucking up the alpine areas. They need to be moved or culled. The bleeding hearts can buy them and agist them on someone’s farm.

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Date: 23/03/2022 20:43:09
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1864168
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

mollwollfumble said:


It’s not a Brumbie’s fault that it’s an introduced feral.

Well I would be quite happy if they shot all the people responsible too.

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Date: 23/03/2022 20:44:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1864171
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

PermeateFree said:


mollwollfumble said:

It’s not a Brumbie’s fault that it’s an introduced feral.

Well I would be quite happy if they shot all the people responsible too.

Responsible for letting them go in the first instance or wanting to keep them there?

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Date: 23/03/2022 20:49:29
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1864175
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

It’s not a Brumbie’s fault that it’s an introduced feral.

Well I would be quite happy if they shot all the people responsible too.

Responsible for letting them go in the first instance or wanting to keep them there?

Any sympathiser will do, not fussy.

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Date: 23/03/2022 20:55:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1864176
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

it’sn’t about fault

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Date: 23/03/2022 21:27:30
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1864181
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

SCIENCE said:


what’s the hangup about eating meat anyway

An alternative point of view

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Date: 23/03/2022 21:46:49
From: party_pants
ID: 1864183
Subject: re: Those Brumbies again.

mollwollfumble said:


It’s not a Brumbie’s fault that it’s an introduced feral.

A way should be found to cull them without suffering. One moment they’re doing what wild horses do; next moment they are stone dead. Dead before they hit the ground.

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