Fashionista has rung me in some perturbation: the neighbour on her western side has finally cut down the tree that shaded her yard and clothes line so beautifully, because the leaves were driving him mad…after about 20 years…

N E ways she is after a tree to replace it on HER side of the fence…but it must not have leaves that will upset the neighbour…it must be fast growing…

Crepe myrtle do really well on her block…I was going to suggest a palm tree or similar…nothing will grow fast enough to catch up to the removed tree, which was easily 10 metres (30foot) tall, not this summer or the next…

The neighbour’s house is almost 1 metre from the fence line and the removed tree…they’ve got a “native corner” just up from that spot…corner of joint fence and street fence…

not my forte.
buddlejas grow quick and are drought tolerant.
as a temporary screen – corn, sunflowers and jerusalem artichokes grow to 2 metres high.
casuarinas tend to make a high narrow row of trees.

Grevillia robusta grows fairly quick and is a native. Fairly compact but tallish

drylander1 said:

Grevillia robusta grows fairly quick and is a native. Fairly compact but tallish

What the? These guys can grow to 50m in height with a spread of 15m or so! I used to live next door to a massive one, that would drop leaves all year round.

but it is good to see you here drylander :)

Dinetta said:

Fashionista has rung me in some perturbation: the neighbour on her western side has finally cut down the tree that shaded her yard and clothes line so beautifully, because the leaves were driving him mad…after about 20 years…

N E ways she is after a tree to replace it on HER side of the fence…but it must not have leaves that will upset the neighbour…it must be fast growing…

Crepe myrtle do really well on her block…I was going to suggest a palm tree or similar…nothing will grow fast enough to catch up to the removed tree, which was easily 10 metres (30foot) tall, not this summer or the next…

Has she told the local council? The neighbour’s tree may have been large enough under council guidelines to be considered a significant tree and if the neighbour did not obtain council permission to remove the tree then they could be liable. Send the bastards to gaol!

pepe said:

not my forte.
buddlejas grow quick and are drought tolerant.
as a temporary screen – corn, sunflowers and jerusalem artichokes grow to 2 metres high.
casuarinas tend to make a high narrow row of trees.

She’s not after a screen, she’s after shade in her yard during the hot Rockhampton summer afternoons…

drylander1 said:

Grevillia robusta grows fairly quick and is a native. Fairly compact but tallish

Thanks Drylander, I’ll have a look at it…

pain master said:

drylander1 said:

Grevillia robusta grows fairly quick and is a native. Fairly compact but tallish

What the? These guys can grow to 50m in height with a spread of 15m or so! I used to live next door to a massive one, that would drop leaves all year round.

Oh

:(

pain master said:

Dinetta said:

Fashionista has rung me in some perturbation: the neighbour on her western side has finally cut down the tree that shaded her yard and clothes line so beautifully, because the leaves were driving him mad…after about 20 years…

N E ways she is after a tree to replace it on HER side of the fence…but it must not have leaves that will upset the neighbour…it must be fast growing…

Crepe myrtle do really well on her block…I was going to suggest a palm tree or similar…nothing will grow fast enough to catch up to the removed tree, which was easily 10 metres (30foot) tall, not this summer or the next…

Has she told the local council? The neighbour’s tree may have been large enough under council guidelines to be considered a significant tree and if the neighbour did not obtain council permission to remove the tree then they could be liable. Send the bastards to gaol!

I don’t think the RRC (Rockhampton Regional Council) has those laws / by-laws yet…

What about:

Illawarra Flame Tree (Brachychiton acerifolius)

Do they grow fast? If they’re a succulent, they’d grow as fast as you’d water them, wouldn’t they? I know they shed leaves but they don’t really have that many leaves when you think about it…

Dinetta said:

pain master said:

drylander1 said:

Grevillia robusta grows fairly quick and is a native. Fairly compact but tallish

What the? These guys can grow to 50m in height with a spread of 15m or so! I used to live next door to a massive one, that would drop leaves all year round.

Oh

:(

I know the tree you mean now, I don’t recall it dropping leaves all year round, tho’…

drylander1 said:

Grevillia robusta grows fairly quick and is a native. Fairly compact but tallish

>)

compact.. I’ve got one that is easily 30 m tall and it has just come through 20 years of drought.

which means it made most of those 30 m in the first 15 years

roughbarked said:

which means it made most of those 30 m in the first 15 years

@30 years of age.. It was the same height 15 years ago.

Great tree for a western boundary but definitely not for a small yard. and.. most definitely not for some leaf-drop-phobe.

roughbarked said:

drylander1 said:

Grevillia robusta grows fairly quick and is a native. Fairly compact but tallish

>)

compact.. I’ve got one that is easily 30 m tall and it has just come through 20 years of drought.

30 metres might be a bit big…it is a small block after all…I

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

which means it made most of those 30 m in the first 15 years

@30 years of age.. It was the same height 15 years ago.

Great tree for a western boundary but definitely not for a small yard. and.. most definitely not for some leaf-drop-phobe.

LOL you must have posted this whilst I was still typing my post!

OK, the grevillea robusta is not suitable…the yard is too small…how would it go on the self-mulching cracking black clay? I am thinking of some trees for my western aspect, 10 acres to play in, I want tall trees for both shade and windbreaking during storms…and we get some rotters just before the Wet…

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

which means it made most of those 30 m in the first 15 years

@30 years of age.. It was the same height 15 years ago.

Great tree for a western boundary but definitely not for a small yard. and.. most definitely not for some leaf-drop-phobe.

LOL you must have posted this whilst I was still typing my post!

OK, the grevillea robusta is not suitable…the yard is too small…how would it go on the self-mulching cracking black clay? I am thinking of some trees for my western aspect, 10 acres to play in, I want tall trees for both shade and windbreaking during storms…and we get some rotters just before the Wet…

If you have the room to play The G. robusta is a great tree. Mine has hawks nesting in it. However it is an extremely messy tree and if conditions are good enough for it, it will become the mother of billions around your yard. As for a source of mulch.. Mine continuously fills all the gutters and roofs to overflowing. Has a constant mulch of over 500mm thick on top of a humus layer to die for.

To really discuss this We need t know the height of the tree the OP misses.
The distance the clothesline was from it.
Which time of day and season did the shade matter the most. Stuff like that.

There is no tree that is going to please the leaf-o-phobe next door. There is no way he’ll cope with another tree blocking his gutters.
Perhaps a screen with a Pandoreana growing on it?

Self cracking grey clay.. won’t be a worry if you keep up the mulch until the tree can replace it all by itself.

All evergreens drop stuff all year round but the grevillea robusta adds an extra flourish as it flowers in spring.. by dropping most of its leaves just before flowering and putting them back on as the flowers complete.. Then there is all the flower rubbish and the billions of seed and pods..

Something else to consider. Is a lower growing tree trained to grow back away from the fence to shade the clothesline.

A few measurements should work out the angle and height of where the preferred shade is desired to be.

More knowledge of where fashionista is at least climate wise and soil wise would help.

Dinetta said:

pain master said:

drylander1 said:

Grevillia robusta grows fairly quick and is a native. Fairly compact but tallish

What the? These guys can grow to 50m in height with a spread of 15m or so! I used to live next door to a massive one, that would drop leaves all year round.

Oh

:(

and too date, I have only noticed them in the cooler parts of NQ. There are three Big Ones just outside of Bathurst, or is it Warren or it maybe Dubbo. Three of them in a paddock, all around 60m tall and when they flower!!!

Dinetta said:

pain master said:

Dinetta said:

Fashionista has rung me in some perturbation: the neighbour on her western side has finally cut down the tree that shaded her yard and clothes line so beautifully, because the leaves were driving him mad…after about 20 years…

N E ways she is after a tree to replace it on HER side of the fence…but it must not have leaves that will upset the neighbour…it must be fast growing…

Crepe myrtle do really well on her block…I was going to suggest a palm tree or similar…nothing will grow fast enough to catch up to the removed tree, which was easily 10 metres (30foot) tall, not this summer or the next…

Has she told the local council? The neighbour’s tree may have been large enough under council guidelines to be considered a significant tree and if the neighbour did not obtain council permission to remove the tree then they could be liable. Send the bastards to gaol!

I don’t think the RRC (Rockhampton Regional Council) has those laws / by-laws yet…

I’ve heard that all of the Qld councils have the option of using the law if another rate payer makes enough noise. Its just that country Qlders still see the removal of a large tree as part of nature’s way.

Dinetta said:

What about:

Illawarra Flame Tree (Brachychiton acerifolius)

Do they grow fast? If they’re a succulent, they’d grow as fast as you’d water them, wouldn’t they? I know they shed leaves but they don’t really have that many leaves when you think about it…

They do get up pretty quickly, if they are well watered, and you’re right, while they do drop their leaves, they get rid of them pretty quick smart.

What about Terminalia cattapa? Pretty much in the same boat? When they do drop their leaves, you have a garden full, but its only one week of the year…

Dinetta said:

Dinetta said:

pain master said:

What the? These guys can grow to 50m in height with a spread of 15m or so! I used to live next door to a massive one, that would drop leaves all year round.

Oh

:(

I know the tree you mean now, I don’t recall it dropping leaves all year round, tho’…

well not all year round, but it sure did feel like it when I had to clean our pool.

pain master said:

Dinetta said:

pain master said:

Has she told the local council? The neighbour’s tree may have been large enough under council guidelines to be considered a significant tree and if the neighbour did not obtain council permission to remove the tree then they could be liable. Send the bastards to gaol!

I don’t think the RRC (Rockhampton Regional Council) has those laws / by-laws yet…

I’ve heard that all of the Qld councils have the option of using the law if another rate payer makes enough noise. Its just that country Qlders still see the removal of a large tree as part of nature’s way.

It’s a bit late now…but I’ll pass this along to Fashionista…trouble is her Grandfather is a shocker when it comes to cutting down trees…does it when he’s bored I suppose…

I’m getting some wonderful feed back on this thread, thanks to PainMaster and RoughBarked for their interest…off to google that terminalia one…

I’m inclined to agree with RoughBarked, the neighbour has become a leaf-o-phobe…when Fashionista first moved in, he was putting leaf guards over his gutters…ffs…and this was about 3 years ago…to me, leaves in gutters are a way of life and you just go up every now and then and clean all this lovely leaf mould out and re-use it…

Dinetta said:

I’m inclined to agree with RoughBarked, the neighbour has become a leaf-o-phobe…when Fashionista first moved in, he was putting leaf guards over his gutters…ffs…and this was about 3 years ago…to me, leaves in gutters are a way of life and you just go up every now and then and clean all this lovely leaf mould out and re-use it…

If his gutters were leaf guarded then he should have not had such a need to remove the tree. Perhaps at the most, branches that dropped leaves on his roof. Seems he is one of those converts to no trees anywhere near houses. As in opposite to those who deliberately build their houses around a tree.

I’d do everything in order to not add to his phobia. Recalls one instance where a friend had a beeautiful yard full of magic forest mostly natives, all well matured trees. Probably 40 years old. The retired farmer next door took a dislike to the trees on his eastern boundary and poured agent orange along his fenceline. Every tree next door apart from te lemon tree and the passionfruit vine all died en masse.
There are other ways around the situation, some have been mentioned here but progress cannot be made unless more information is proffered.

Dinetta said:

I’m inclined to agree with RoughBarked, the neighbour has become a leaf-o-phobe…when Fashionista first moved in, he was putting leaf guards over his gutters…ffs…and this was about 3 years ago…to me, leaves in gutters are a way of life and you just go up every now and then and clean all this lovely leaf mould out and re-use it…

That’s the guff! That leaf-mould is second-to-none.

pain master said:

Dinetta said:

I’m inclined to agree with RoughBarked, the neighbour has become a leaf-o-phobe…when Fashionista first moved in, he was putting leaf guards over his gutters…ffs…and this was about 3 years ago…to me, leaves in gutters are a way of life and you just go up every now and then and clean all this lovely leaf mould out and re-use it…

That’s the guff! That leaf-mould is second-to-none.

Especially if it is a silky, dropping them in.

I used to have enough leaf mould off the roof of my carport to do all my Cymbidium repotting each year.

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

I’m inclined to agree with RoughBarked, the neighbour has become a leaf-o-phobe…when Fashionista first moved in, he was putting leaf guards over his gutters…ffs…and this was about 3 years ago…to me, leaves in gutters are a way of life and you just go up every now and then and clean all this lovely leaf mould out and re-use it…

If his gutters were leaf guarded then he should have not had such a need to remove the tree. Perhaps at the most, branches that dropped leaves on his roof. Seems he is one of those converts to no trees anywhere near houses. As in opposite to those who deliberately build their houses around a tree.

I’d do everything in order to not add to his phobia. Recalls one instance where a friend had a beeautiful yard full of magic forest mostly natives, all well matured trees. Probably 40 years old. The retired farmer next door took a dislike to the trees on his eastern boundary and poured agent orange along his fenceline. Every tree next door apart from te lemon tree and the passionfruit vine all died en masse.
There are other ways around the situation, some have been mentioned here but progress cannot be made unless more information is proffered.

Sorry to take so long to get back to you…FIL did that to a neighbour’s mango tree…not agent orange tho, because “it was blocking his view”…he’s deadly with trees, is FIL…

Fashionista was supposed to come out yesterday to do a day’s work here, got backended on the highway and has lost her car, so it might be into the middle of next week when I can get back to you with measurements…

The neighbour is generally a co-operative type…don’t know what set him off about the trees…they’ve also started curtaining their place, I think because Fashionista has friends come around to her place often now, and the main entrance is the back door…

pain master said:

Dinetta said:

I’m inclined to agree with RoughBarked, the neighbour has become a leaf-o-phobe…when Fashionista first moved in, he was putting leaf guards over his gutters…ffs…and this was about 3 years ago…to me, leaves in gutters are a way of life and you just go up every now and then and clean all this lovely leaf mould out and re-use it…

That’s the guff! That leaf-mould is second-to-none.

They bin theirs…I couldn’t believe my eyes…I said to Fashionista, you get a compost bin going and ask them for their leaves!

Is it possible to just move the clothesline to the eastern side of the house? Seems like a simple remedy to me. House shade is just as good:-)

Dinetta said:

pain master said:

Dinetta said:

I’m inclined to agree with RoughBarked, the neighbour has become a leaf-o-phobe…when Fashionista first moved in, he was putting leaf guards over his gutters…ffs…and this was about 3 years ago…to me, leaves in gutters are a way of life and you just go up every now and then and clean all this lovely leaf mould out and re-use it…

That’s the guff! That leaf-mould is second-to-none.

They bin theirs…I couldn’t believe my eyes…I said to Fashionista, you get a compost bin going and ask them for their leaves!

Yes! You shold see what comes out of my gutters, lovely black composted leaf matter. Just as much as what blows into the carport. I decided to leave the leaves that gather in the carport and sweep them to one corner and forget them for a while.

roughbarked said:

I used to have enough leaf mould off the roof of my carport to do all my Cymbidium repotting each year.

:D!!