Date: 3/04/2022 22:48:47
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1868588
Subject: Doors or wheels?

I just watched Tom Pemberton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XesDpdVp6o

He was listening to the radio and the discussion was, ‘are there more doors or more wheels in the world?’

He thought wheels. The part time dairyman thought doors.

I’m thinking doors.

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:06:01
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1868591
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

sarahs mum said:


I just watched Tom Pemberton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XesDpdVp6o

He was listening to the radio and the discussion was, ‘are there more doors or more wheels in the world?’

He thought wheels. The part time dairyman thought doors.

I’m thinking doors.

+1

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:07:33
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1868592
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

I suppose gears are wheels.

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:08:42
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1868593
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

sarahs mum said:


I just watched Tom Pemberton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XesDpdVp6o

He was listening to the radio and the discussion was, ‘are there more doors or more wheels in the world?’

He thought wheels. The part time dairyman thought doors.

I’m thinking doors.

I think it would depend on where you draw the line for both of them. think of all the kids toys with wheels and ‘doors” that don’t open. Do we include wheels in machinery? Doors in machinery?

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:10:36
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1868594
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

In my kitchen alone there are 25 doors.

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:12:41
From: sibeen
ID: 1868595
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

sarahs mum said:


I suppose gears are wheels.

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:13:15
From: sibeen
ID: 1868596
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

sarahs mum said:


I suppose gears are wheels.

Yeah, where do you draw the line.

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:14:09
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1868597
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

sibeen said:


sarahs mum said:

I suppose gears are wheels.

Yeah, where do you draw the line.

In the sand, man, in the sand!

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:20:36
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1868599
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

Bubblecar said:


In my kitchen alone there are 25 doors.

…27 actually.

I completely overlooked the door to the hot water system and the door under that.

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:22:43
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1868600
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

Bubblecar said:


Bubblecar said:

In my kitchen alone there are 25 doors.

…27 actually.

I completely overlooked the door to the hot water system and the door under that.

YOu’ve probably got some wheels hiding in your fridge.

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:38:11
From: party_pants
ID: 1868605
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

Bubblecar said:


In my kitchen alone there are 25 doors.

In my living room there are 26 wheels, if you include the castor wheels on the furniture.

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:41:11
From: party_pants
ID: 1868606
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

In my kitchen alone there are 25 doors.

In my living room there are 26 wheels, if you include the castor wheels on the furniture.

Make that 31. I forgot the laptop table, which has a 5 wheel arrangement. Although technically it has 10, each “wheel” being a pair.

And the two office chairs have 5 pairs each also.

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:41:13
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1868607
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

Well I just don’t know.

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:43:41
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1868609
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

party_pants said:


Bubblecar said:

In my kitchen alone there are 25 doors.

In my living room there are 26 wheels, if you include the castor wheels on the furniture.

There are more wheels in my living room than doors. I went crazy with wheels and castors.

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:43:47
From: party_pants
ID: 1868610
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

.. the portable airconditioner has 4 pairs of castor wheels too.

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:46:19
From: party_pants
ID: 1868611
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

sarahs mum said:


party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

In my kitchen alone there are 25 doors.

In my living room there are 26 wheels, if you include the castor wheels on the furniture.

There are more wheels in my living room than doors. I went crazy with wheels and castors.

I went sensible :)

Most of the furniture I made myself of course, I added castor wheels for practicality. On a hot summer evening I can sit outside and wheel the TV against the window so I can watch the cricket while catching a bit of the regular Perth sea-breeze.

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:49:34
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1868612
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

party_pants said:


sarahs mum said:

party_pants said:

In my living room there are 26 wheels, if you include the castor wheels on the furniture.

There are more wheels in my living room than doors. I went crazy with wheels and castors.

I went sensible :)

Most of the furniture I made myself of course, I added castor wheels for practicality. On a hot summer evening I can sit outside and wheel the TV against the window so I can watch the cricket while catching a bit of the regular Perth sea-breeze.

I have a polished cement slab. All the heavy stuff is on wheels. Ceptin’ the press and I would love to get that done.

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:50:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 1868613
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

In my living room there are five doors and eight wheels. In my watch there are 19 wheels, one door if you count the back which actually unscrews so technically being a screw down hatch, is it a door or a wheel?

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:52:23
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1868614
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

roughbarked said:


In my living room there are five doors and eight wheels. In my watch there are 19 wheels, one door if you count the back which actually unscrews so technically being a screw down hatch, is it a door or a wheel?

I was thinking that watches and clocks and gear boxes would up the wheel count.

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Date: 3/04/2022 23:58:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1868615
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

google

more doors or wheels?
——

About 499,000,000 results (0.45 seconds)

How many doors are there in the world?
Without getting too deep into the numbers, we can estimate that there are as many as 33 billion doors in the world, between houses, apartment buildings, vehicles, and the cabinets, closets, and other compartments inside them.
That’s a lot of doors! But how does it compare to the number of wheels? Let’s take a look.
How many wheels are there in the world?
Okay, it’s pretty much impossible to give an exact count of all the wheels that exist in the world. After all, we’re making more all the time, and have been ever since the first wheel was invented around 3,500 BCE.
About 152,971 passenger cars were manufactured in 2020 alone (that’s 17 a second!), and even Hot Wheels produces close to 15 cars every second! And that’s not taking into account all of the wheels turned out each day for bicycles, shopping carts, airplanes, office chairs, and non-Hot Wheels toys.
To get a decent estimate of the number of wheels in the world, let’s break down the different types of wheels.
Cars
The first car, the three-wheel Benz Patent Motor Car, was invented in 1886—and ever since, wheels have been a part of life.
There are 1.446 billion cars in the world today. Multiply that by four, the average number of wheels on a standard modern passenger car, and you’re looking at 5.784 billion wheels.
“But, wait,” you say (in a smug, anti-wheel voice). “Don’t most cars have the same number of doors and wheels?”
And it’s true: most of the cars manufactured in the world are sedans, four-door SUVs, and other cars with an apparent wheel-to-door ratio of 4:4. For instance, the Toyota Corolla, the best-selling car of all time with 37.5 million units sold, has four doors and four wheels—a wash, right?
Wrong. Most cars have the same number of doors and tires—but wheels are a very different matter. After all, every car has a steering wheel. The gears that run your engine? Those are wheels, too. In fact, your car is full of wheels, big and small, that unquestionably outnumber the doors.
Even if we knock off the four main wheels and limit our count to steering wheels and transmissions, that’s an average of six wheels per car. Do the math, and we’re talking 8.676 billion wheels—more wheels than people, let alone doors for them to walk through!
Toy wheels
Toys are another major source of wheels, from Hot Wheels cars to LEGOs to Tonka trucks, Razor scooters, and that Fisher-Price corn popper toy that toddlers push around.
Hot Wheels alone has sold more than six billion cars, meaning there are roughly 24 billion tiny wheels out there in the world—and these miniatures don’t have working doors, meaning that every one of those wheels stays in the county. Hasbro’s Tonka has sold millions of pint-sized construction vehicles, with over 15 million sales of the iconic yellow Mighty Dump Truck alone. Hello, 60 million more wheels.
We could keep going—but adding up the sales of every single toy car company is a task too gargantuan even for us. Suffice it to say that if the gears-and-steering-wheel argument didn’t convince you, the toy industry produces enough wheels every second to outnumber the world’s doors without a sweat.
Bicycles and motorcycles
Sometimes two wheels are all you need—just ask bicycle and motorcycle enthusiasts!
Bicycles have been around since German inventor Karl von Drais patented the first in 1817, and there are about 1 billion bicycles in the world today. Motorcycles, on the other hand, were invented by Gottlieb Daimler in 1885, and there are just 49 million today.
Between bicycles and motorcycles, we add at least 2 billion wheels—and that’s not taking into account gears!
Other wheels: shopping carts, trailers, and furniture
Between cars, toys, and other wheeled vehicles, it’s already clear that wheels outnumber doors. But if you’re still not convinced, take a look around your home and neighborhood.
Got an office chair in your spare room (thank you, work-from-home)? That’s an average of five wheels. Shopping carts, hand trucks, trailers, and baby strollers all have wheels (and no doors). If you’ve got any furniture in your home with casters, those count as wheels too—and, if we’re getting really technical about it, every single sliding drawer in your home requires at least a couple of wheels to operate.
The bottom line
We’re nowhere near an exact estimate of the total number of wheels in the world, but it doesn’t matter. Already, we’ve identified well over a possible 37 billion wheels in the world—way more than the number of doors.

https://getjerry.com/car-insurance/more-wheels-than-doors

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Date: 4/04/2022 00:00:01
From: Ian
ID: 1868616
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

I reckon doors.

If we’re including the natural world then there are doors to be found all over the place.. nature’s not too good at doing wheels.

Depends on how we define each tho..

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Date: 4/04/2022 00:02:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1868617
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

The internet is no place for reasonable discussion. This is a lesson that was recently learned in the most painful way by Auckland resident Ryan Nixon, who last weekend made the innocent mistake of asking Twitter whether there were more doors or wheels in the world.

A whopping 223,347 people replied and filled out his poll, with 53.6% of them guessing there were more wheels in the world. One guy worked out a complex formula on a piece of paper. Others argued that a wheel can be a door but a door cannot be a wheel. One particularly deep thinker pointed out that, while wheels are a human invention, doors “are primal – even celestial – in nature”. The debate, which will never be definitively resolved, continues. Sorry for putting it into your brain.

This sort of pointless argument has become an important part of online life. Who could possibly forget the palaver about The Dress in 2015, when a woman took a photo of her wedding outfit and then had an argument with her daughter about whether it was white and gold or blue and black? At its peak, 11,000 tweets were posted about The Dress every minute, as friends and families tore themselves apart in disagreement. It became so heated that scientific papers were written about the phenomenon.

more..
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/shortcuts/2022/mar/08/are-there-more-wheels-or-doors-in-the-world-why-we-cant-resist-an-internet-debate

As fun as it is to debate colours of things with strangers, The Dress debate had a definitive answer: a cursory amount of research takes you back to where the dress was bought, which quickly and conclusively proved that it was blue and black.

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Date: 4/04/2022 00:04:46
From: sibeen
ID: 1868620
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

sarahs mum said:

google

more doors or wheels?
——

About 152,971 passenger cars were manufactured in 2020 alone (that’s 17 a second!), and even Hot Wheels produces close to 15 cars every second! And
https://getjerry.com/car-insurance/more-wheels-than-doors

I’m going to call this site out and suggest that the above figure is somehow incorrect.

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Date: 4/04/2022 00:07:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1868623
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

In my living room there are five doors and eight wheels. In my watch there are 19 wheels, one door if you count the back which actually unscrews so technically being a screw down hatch, is it a door or a wheel?

I was thinking that watches and clocks and gear boxes would up the wheel count.

In my workshop there are many thousands of wheels and 7 doors.

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Date: 4/04/2022 01:34:41
From: dv
ID: 1868638
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

I don’t have an opinion on this. The cupboards and cabinets in a house might have dozens of doors. The luggage might have dozens of wheels. The watches have wheels, the advent calendars have doors. I can’t make estimates on any of this.

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Date: 4/04/2022 01:42:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1868639
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

dv said:


I don’t have an opinion on this. The cupboards and cabinets in a house might have dozens of doors. The luggage might have dozens of wheels. The watches have wheels, the advent calendars have doors. I can’t make estimates on any of this.

Same. By the way I do reckon that there are natural examples of wheels. Do you have an opinion on this? I can see lots of things in nature that we have simply copied and adapted or otherwise reutilised.

eg: helicoils are everywhere. Male and female fittings of all kinds are even named after the coupling.

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Date: 4/04/2022 01:48:30
From: dv
ID: 1868640
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

roughbarked said:


dv said:

I don’t have an opinion on this. The cupboards and cabinets in a house might have dozens of doors. The luggage might have dozens of wheels. The watches have wheels, the advent calendars have doors. I can’t make estimates on any of this.

Same. By the way I do reckon that there are natural examples of wheels. Do you have an opinion on this? I can see lots of things in nature that we have simply copied and adapted or otherwise reutilised.

eg: helicoils are everywhere. Male and female fittings of all kinds are even named after the coupling.

Remembering the difference between a roller and wheel, I don’t think a wheel could occur in nature except in the freakiest of circumstances.

Whereas there are plenty of natural doors.

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Date: 4/04/2022 01:51:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 1868641
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

dv said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

I don’t have an opinion on this. The cupboards and cabinets in a house might have dozens of doors. The luggage might have dozens of wheels. The watches have wheels, the advent calendars have doors. I can’t make estimates on any of this.

Same. By the way I do reckon that there are natural examples of wheels. Do you have an opinion on this? I can see lots of things in nature that we have simply copied and adapted or otherwise reutilised.

eg: helicoils are everywhere. Male and female fittings of all kinds are even named after the coupling.

Remembering the difference between a roller and wheel, I don’t think a wheel could occur in nature except in the freakiest of circumstances.

Whereas there are plenty of natural doors.

I suppose one may need a bit of imagination. Lie on your back under a Bunya Bunya. Roll a log or a round rock, skip a stone across the water.

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Date: 4/04/2022 02:04:35
From: dv
ID: 1868642
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

roughbarked said:


dv said:

roughbarked said:

Same. By the way I do reckon that there are natural examples of wheels. Do you have an opinion on this? I can see lots of things in nature that we have simply copied and adapted or otherwise reutilised.

eg: helicoils are everywhere. Male and female fittings of all kinds are even named after the coupling.

Remembering the difference between a roller and wheel, I don’t think a wheel could occur in nature except in the freakiest of circumstances.

Whereas there are plenty of natural doors.

I suppose one may need a bit of imagination. Lie on your back under a Bunya Bunya. Roll a log or a round rock, skip a stone across the water.

That’s a roller, not a wheel.

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Date: 4/04/2022 02:09:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1868643
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

dv said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

Remembering the difference between a roller and wheel, I don’t think a wheel could occur in nature except in the freakiest of circumstances.

Whereas there are plenty of natural doors.

I suppose one may need a bit of imagination. Lie on your back under a Bunya Bunya. Roll a log or a round rock, skip a stone across the water.

That’s a roller, not a wheel.

Though the action of the roller and the radiating branches of the Bunya, could lead one to attempt drilling a hole in a round object and thus spin it on a thread even as an ornamental necklace and maybe attempt to fashion a spoked wheel?
A daisy flower if picked and the stem spun between the fingers is rolling just as a wheel does.

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Date: 4/04/2022 02:13:19
From: dv
ID: 1868644
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_and_wheels_in_the_natural_world

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Date: 4/04/2022 02:19:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1868646
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

dv said:

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_and_wheels_in_the_natural_world

The spinning gum does it. ;) Eucalyptus perriniana.
The juvenile leaves can detach from the stem at the center and spin around the stem in the wind.

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Date: 4/04/2022 07:35:42
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1868651
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

sarahs mum said:

The internet is no place for reasonable discussion. This is a lesson that was recently learned in the most painful way by Auckland resident Ryan Nixon, who last weekend made the innocent mistake of asking Twitter whether there were more doors or wheels in the world.

A whopping 223,347 people replied and filled out his poll, with 53.6% of them guessing there were more wheels in the world. One guy worked out a complex formula on a piece of paper. Others argued that a wheel can be a door but a door cannot be a wheel. One particularly deep thinker pointed out that, while wheels are a human invention, doors “are primal – even celestial – in nature”. The debate, which will never be definitively resolved, continues. Sorry for putting it into your brain.

This sort of pointless argument has become an important part of online life. Who could possibly forget the palaver about The Dress in 2015, when a woman took a photo of her wedding outfit and then had an argument with her daughter about whether it was white and gold or blue and black? At its peak, 11,000 tweets were posted about The Dress every minute, as friends and families tore themselves apart in disagreement. It became so heated that scientific papers were written about the phenomenon.

more..
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/shortcuts/2022/mar/08/are-there-more-wheels-or-doors-in-the-world-why-we-cant-resist-an-internet-debate

As fun as it is to debate colours of things with strangers, The Dress debate had a definitive answer: a cursory amount of research takes you back to where the dress was bought, which quickly and conclusively proved that it was blue and black.

A door cannot be a wheel?

What about a revolving door?
And most sliding doors have more than one wheel.

Wheels are a human invention?

What about planets? Are they not wheels?

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Date: 4/04/2022 07:46:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1868652
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

The internet is no place for reasonable discussion. This is a lesson that was recently learned in the most painful way by Auckland resident Ryan Nixon, who last weekend made the innocent mistake of asking Twitter whether there were more doors or wheels in the world.

A whopping 223,347 people replied and filled out his poll, with 53.6% of them guessing there were more wheels in the world. One guy worked out a complex formula on a piece of paper. Others argued that a wheel can be a door but a door cannot be a wheel. One particularly deep thinker pointed out that, while wheels are a human invention, doors “are primal – even celestial – in nature”. The debate, which will never be definitively resolved, continues. Sorry for putting it into your brain.

This sort of pointless argument has become an important part of online life. Who could possibly forget the palaver about The Dress in 2015, when a woman took a photo of her wedding outfit and then had an argument with her daughter about whether it was white and gold or blue and black? At its peak, 11,000 tweets were posted about The Dress every minute, as friends and families tore themselves apart in disagreement. It became so heated that scientific papers were written about the phenomenon.

more..
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/shortcuts/2022/mar/08/are-there-more-wheels-or-doors-in-the-world-why-we-cant-resist-an-internet-debate

As fun as it is to debate colours of things with strangers, The Dress debate had a definitive answer: a cursory amount of research takes you back to where the dress was bought, which quickly and conclusively proved that it was blue and black.

A door cannot be a wheel?

What about a revolving door?
And most sliding doors have more than one wheel.

Wheels are a human invention?

What about planets? Are they not wheels?

Well planets do have axes but are they axles?

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Date: 4/04/2022 08:05:47
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1868653
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

The internet is no place for reasonable discussion. This is a lesson that was recently learned in the most painful way by Auckland resident Ryan Nixon, who last weekend made the innocent mistake of asking Twitter whether there were more doors or wheels in the world.

A whopping 223,347 people replied and filled out his poll, with 53.6% of them guessing there were more wheels in the world. One guy worked out a complex formula on a piece of paper. Others argued that a wheel can be a door but a door cannot be a wheel. One particularly deep thinker pointed out that, while wheels are a human invention, doors “are primal – even celestial – in nature”. The debate, which will never be definitively resolved, continues. Sorry for putting it into your brain.

This sort of pointless argument has become an important part of online life. Who could possibly forget the palaver about The Dress in 2015, when a woman took a photo of her wedding outfit and then had an argument with her daughter about whether it was white and gold or blue and black? At its peak, 11,000 tweets were posted about The Dress every minute, as friends and families tore themselves apart in disagreement. It became so heated that scientific papers were written about the phenomenon.

more..
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/shortcuts/2022/mar/08/are-there-more-wheels-or-doors-in-the-world-why-we-cant-resist-an-internet-debate

As fun as it is to debate colours of things with strangers, The Dress debate had a definitive answer: a cursory amount of research takes you back to where the dress was bought, which quickly and conclusively proved that it was blue and black.

A door cannot be a wheel?

What about a revolving door?
And most sliding doors have more than one wheel.

Wheels are a human invention?

What about planets? Are they not wheels?

Well planets do have axes but are they axles?

I think you’ve been reading too much dv ;)

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Date: 4/04/2022 08:28:51
From: Ian
ID: 1868654
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

The Rev Dodgson said:


sarahs mum said:

The internet is no place for reasonable discussion. This is a lesson that was recently learned in the most painful way by Auckland resident Ryan Nixon, who last weekend made the innocent mistake of asking Twitter whether there were more doors or wheels in the world.

A whopping 223,347 people replied and filled out his poll, with 53.6% of them guessing there were more wheels in the world. One guy worked out a complex formula on a piece of paper. Others argued that a wheel can be a door but a door cannot be a wheel. One particularly deep thinker pointed out that, while wheels are a human invention, doors “are primal – even celestial – in nature”. The debate, which will never be definitively resolved, continues. Sorry for putting it into your brain.

This sort of pointless argument has become an important part of online life. Who could possibly forget the palaver about The Dress in 2015, when a woman took a photo of her wedding outfit and then had an argument with her daughter about whether it was white and gold or blue and black? At its peak, 11,000 tweets were posted about The Dress every minute, as friends and families tore themselves apart in disagreement. It became so heated that scientific papers were written about the phenomenon.

more..
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/shortcuts/2022/mar/08/are-there-more-wheels-or-doors-in-the-world-why-we-cant-resist-an-internet-debate

As fun as it is to debate colours of things with strangers, The Dress debate had a definitive answer: a cursory amount of research takes you back to where the dress was bought, which quickly and conclusively proved that it was blue and black.

A door cannot be a wheel?

What about a revolving door?
And most sliding doors have more than one wheel.

Wheels are a human invention?

What about planets? Are they not wheels?

And planets.. also a human invention?

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Date: 5/04/2022 06:51:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 1868994
Subject: re: Doors or wheels?

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

A door cannot be a wheel?

What about a revolving door?
And most sliding doors have more than one wheel.

Wheels are a human invention?

What about planets? Are they not wheels?

Well planets do have axes but are they axles?

I think you’ve been reading too much dv ;)

LOL. :)

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