Date: 6/04/2022 07:54:09
From: buffy
ID: 1869412
Subject: Monotoca

Another question for PF.

The other day I found Monotoca scoparia out at our bush block. I had no idea what it was and I hadn’t heard of it before when I checked in Corrick and Fuhrer to get some idea. I was able to get it to “heath of some sort” and then I found a picture and took it from there. My question…I see from various descriptions that male and female flowers are on different bushes. And that male flowers are a bit bigger than female. But such a little bit that I doubt I’m going to be able to tell them apart? I’m not fussed about that really. I guess I can wait and see which plants fruit to ID the female ones. I did remember to take my little measuring stick and put it in some of the photos.

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Apparently it is used in gardens. I don’t remember ever being aware of it under either botanical or common names.

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Date: 6/04/2022 08:39:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1869425
Subject: re: Monotoca

It appears that a rough guide would be that flowers with a corolla longer than 3mm should most likely be male?

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Date: 6/04/2022 10:41:15
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1869454
Subject: re: Monotoca

buffy said:


Another question for PF.

The other day I found Monotoca scoparia out at our bush block. I had no idea what it was and I hadn’t heard of it before when I checked in Corrick and Fuhrer to get some idea. I was able to get it to “heath of some sort” and then I found a picture and took it from there. My question…I see from various descriptions that male and female flowers are on different bushes. And that male flowers are a bit bigger than female. But such a little bit that I doubt I’m going to be able to tell them apart? I’m not fussed about that really. I guess I can wait and see which plants fruit to ID the female ones. I did remember to take my little measuring stick and put it in some of the photos.

………

Apparently it is used in gardens. I don’t remember ever being aware of it under either botanical or common names.

Funny…I thought to self it looks like my untitled plant…monotoca glauca. And then I thought to self ‘what would you know?’

(I had a series of work called ‘untitled plant’ that had everyone intrigued and responsive until one day when a PhD in botany visited the gallery.)

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Date: 6/04/2022 10:47:57
From: buffy
ID: 1869456
Subject: re: Monotoca

sarahs mum said:


buffy said:

Another question for PF.

The other day I found Monotoca scoparia out at our bush block. I had no idea what it was and I hadn’t heard of it before when I checked in Corrick and Fuhrer to get some idea. I was able to get it to “heath of some sort” and then I found a picture and took it from there. My question…I see from various descriptions that male and female flowers are on different bushes. And that male flowers are a bit bigger than female. But such a little bit that I doubt I’m going to be able to tell them apart? I’m not fussed about that really. I guess I can wait and see which plants fruit to ID the female ones. I did remember to take my little measuring stick and put it in some of the photos.

………

Apparently it is used in gardens. I don’t remember ever being aware of it under either botanical or common names.

Funny…I thought to self it looks like my untitled plant…monotoca glauca. And then I thought to self ‘what would you know?’

(I had a series of work called ‘untitled plant’ that had everyone intrigued and responsive until one day when a PhD in botany visited the gallery.)

I love how the brain does that. The stuff is in there, but it might be under a heap of old clothes in the basement or something.

:)

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Date: 6/04/2022 10:50:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1869457
Subject: re: Monotoca

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Another question for PF.

The other day I found Monotoca scoparia out at our bush block. I had no idea what it was and I hadn’t heard of it before when I checked in Corrick and Fuhrer to get some idea. I was able to get it to “heath of some sort” and then I found a picture and took it from there. My question…I see from various descriptions that male and female flowers are on different bushes. And that male flowers are a bit bigger than female. But such a little bit that I doubt I’m going to be able to tell them apart? I’m not fussed about that really. I guess I can wait and see which plants fruit to ID the female ones. I did remember to take my little measuring stick and put it in some of the photos.

………

Apparently it is used in gardens. I don’t remember ever being aware of it under either botanical or common names.

Funny…I thought to self it looks like my untitled plant…monotoca glauca. And then I thought to self ‘what would you know?’

(I had a series of work called ‘untitled plant’ that had everyone intrigued and responsive until one day when a PhD in botany visited the gallery.)

I love how the brain does that. The stuff is in there, but it might be under a heap of old clothes in the basement or something.

:)

Mine does a lot of that.

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Date: 6/04/2022 10:59:56
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1869461
Subject: re: Monotoca

buffy said:


sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Another question for PF.

The other day I found Monotoca scoparia out at our bush block. I had no idea what it was and I hadn’t heard of it before when I checked in Corrick and Fuhrer to get some idea. I was able to get it to “heath of some sort” and then I found a picture and took it from there. My question…I see from various descriptions that male and female flowers are on different bushes. And that male flowers are a bit bigger than female. But such a little bit that I doubt I’m going to be able to tell them apart? I’m not fussed about that really. I guess I can wait and see which plants fruit to ID the female ones. I did remember to take my little measuring stick and put it in some of the photos.

………

Apparently it is used in gardens. I don’t remember ever being aware of it under either botanical or common names.

Funny…I thought to self it looks like my untitled plant…monotoca glauca. And then I thought to self ‘what would you know?’

(I had a series of work called ‘untitled plant’ that had everyone intrigued and responsive until one day when a PhD in botany visited the gallery.)

I love how the brain does that. The stuff is in there, but it might be under a heap of old clothes in the basement or something.

:)

my plant has a pinker flower.

It lives close to where the blade travels when the road is graded. It’s 55 years old and about 4 foot high. It lives under the cover of a huge 55 year old regnans. The regnan’s is protected because of it size. last year they marked it as a significant tree. No one gives a shit about the Monotoca. it is neither tall or fat enough to be protected.

Thus ends the untitled plant speil.

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Date: 6/04/2022 12:23:02
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1869475
Subject: re: Monotoca

buffy said:


Another question for PF.

The other day I found Monotoca scoparia out at our bush block. I had no idea what it was and I hadn’t heard of it before when I checked in Corrick and Fuhrer to get some idea. I was able to get it to “heath of some sort” and then I found a picture and took it from there. My question…I see from various descriptions that male and female flowers are on different bushes. And that male flowers are a bit bigger than female. But such a little bit that I doubt I’m going to be able to tell them apart? I’m not fussed about that really. I guess I can wait and see which plants fruit to ID the female ones. I did remember to take my little measuring stick and put it in some of the photos.

………

Apparently it is used in gardens. I don’t remember ever being aware of it under either botanical or common names.

The male flowers have fertile stamens, possibly with rudimentary female parts, whilst the female flowers are the reverse. Going on your photo, it looks to be a male plant.

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Date: 6/04/2022 12:30:06
From: buffy
ID: 1869478
Subject: re: Monotoca

PermeateFree said:


buffy said:

Another question for PF.

The other day I found Monotoca scoparia out at our bush block. I had no idea what it was and I hadn’t heard of it before when I checked in Corrick and Fuhrer to get some idea. I was able to get it to “heath of some sort” and then I found a picture and took it from there. My question…I see from various descriptions that male and female flowers are on different bushes. And that male flowers are a bit bigger than female. But such a little bit that I doubt I’m going to be able to tell them apart? I’m not fussed about that really. I guess I can wait and see which plants fruit to ID the female ones. I did remember to take my little measuring stick and put it in some of the photos.

………

Apparently it is used in gardens. I don’t remember ever being aware of it under either botanical or common names.

The male flowers have fertile stamens, possibly with rudimentary female parts, whilst the female flowers are the reverse. Going on your photo, it looks to be a male plant.

Thank you. There is quite a large area of it in a part we hadn’t walked before. Next time I’ll see if I can differentiate, but as I said, I’m not especially fussed about that level of detail. I will watch for the fruit though.

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Date: 6/04/2022 12:36:39
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1869485
Subject: re: Monotoca

buffy said:


PermeateFree said:

buffy said:

Another question for PF.

The other day I found Monotoca scoparia out at our bush block. I had no idea what it was and I hadn’t heard of it before when I checked in Corrick and Fuhrer to get some idea. I was able to get it to “heath of some sort” and then I found a picture and took it from there. My question…I see from various descriptions that male and female flowers are on different bushes. And that male flowers are a bit bigger than female. But such a little bit that I doubt I’m going to be able to tell them apart? I’m not fussed about that really. I guess I can wait and see which plants fruit to ID the female ones. I did remember to take my little measuring stick and put it in some of the photos.

………

Apparently it is used in gardens. I don’t remember ever being aware of it under either botanical or common names.

The male flowers have fertile stamens, possibly with rudimentary female parts, whilst the female flowers are the reverse. Going on your photo, it looks to be a male plant.

Thank you. There is quite a large area of it in a part we hadn’t walked before. Next time I’ll see if I can differentiate, but as I said, I’m not especially fussed about that level of detail. I will watch for the fruit though.

It is often a common shrub in hollows and near creeks.

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Date: 6/04/2022 13:14:37
From: buffy
ID: 1869518
Subject: re: Monotoca

PermeateFree said:


buffy said:

PermeateFree said:

The male flowers have fertile stamens, possibly with rudimentary female parts, whilst the female flowers are the reverse. Going on your photo, it looks to be a male plant.

Thank you. There is quite a large area of it in a part we hadn’t walked before. Next time I’ll see if I can differentiate, but as I said, I’m not especially fussed about that level of detail. I will watch for the fruit though.

It is often a common shrub in hollows and near creeks.

Actually it’s a fairly flat area of bracken about the size of a couple of standard house blocks with few trees on it. It borders onto some teatree scrub that gets a bit wet. Before the fire in 2005 it was covered in Epacris impressa and I know there was at least one Stenanthera conostophiodes bush in there. I’ve never been able to find that again. And the bracken just all grew up and so did the pink heath. We have a Razorback rideon slasher for keeping the walking tracks clear so I asked Mr buffy to run a new track into that area so I could get in there with a little less fear of unseen snakes. He followed one of the kangaroo tracks around – seems as good a way as any of setting out a new track and it worked well because it joined up with one of our main tracks without even trying. When I walked it, I found the Monotoca. The fellow who wrote the local plant book “Plants of the Great South West” who I’ve known since the early 1980s says he had been unable to find any of it to photograph so he has taken my photos off iNaturalist to use in the next edition. He might get out to see it for himself with his good cameras before he has the next edition organized perhaps. He’s been to our place a few times now.

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Date: 6/04/2022 13:22:58
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1869529
Subject: re: Monotoca

buffy said:


PermeateFree said:

buffy said:

Thank you. There is quite a large area of it in a part we hadn’t walked before. Next time I’ll see if I can differentiate, but as I said, I’m not especially fussed about that level of detail. I will watch for the fruit though.

It is often a common shrub in hollows and near creeks.

Actually it’s a fairly flat area of bracken about the size of a couple of standard house blocks with few trees on it. It borders onto some teatree scrub that gets a bit wet. Before the fire in 2005 it was covered in Epacris impressa and I know there was at least one Stenanthera conostophiodes bush in there. I’ve never been able to find that again. And the bracken just all grew up and so did the pink heath. We have a Razorback rideon slasher for keeping the walking tracks clear so I asked Mr buffy to run a new track into that area so I could get in there with a little less fear of unseen snakes. He followed one of the kangaroo tracks around – seems as good a way as any of setting out a new track and it worked well because it joined up with one of our main tracks without even trying. When I walked it, I found the Monotoca. The fellow who wrote the local plant book “Plants of the Great South West” who I’ve known since the early 1980s says he had been unable to find any of it to photograph so he has taken my photos off iNaturalist to use in the next edition. He might get out to see it for himself with his good cameras before he has the next edition organized perhaps. He’s been to our place a few times now.

It does like a little moisture, which the vicinity of yours seems to be the case. Very likely other plants will be in the area.

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