Date: 13/04/2022 10:36:05
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1872243
Subject: Liquid system stores solar energy for years and releases it on demand

Back in 2017 we caught wind of an interesting energy system from researchers at Sweden’s Chalmers University of Technology designed to store solar energy in liquid form. By hooking it up to an ultra-thin thermoelectric generator, the team has now demonstrated that it can produce electricity, a development it believes lays the groundwork for self-charging electronics that use solar power on demand.

Called the MOlecular Solar Thermal (MOST) system, the technology has been in the works for more than a decade and centers on a specially designed molecule of carbon, hydrogen and nitrogen. When it comes into contact with sunlight, the atoms within the molecule are rearranged to change its shape and turn it into an energy-rich isomer, which can be stored in liquid form.

The energy captured by the MOST system can be stored in this liquid state for up to 18 years, before a specially designed catalyst returns the molecule to its original shape and releases the energy as heat. The Chalmers team has now collaborated with scientists at China’s Shanghai Jiao Tong University, who have used a compact thermoelectric generator to turn that heat into electricity.

newatlas.com/energy/liquid-system-solar-energy-most/

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Date: 13/04/2022 10:49:05
From: dv
ID: 1872248
Subject: re: Liquid system stores solar energy for years and releases it on demand

Interesting, I hope it scales up okay

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Date: 13/04/2022 10:51:58
From: Cymek
ID: 1872249
Subject: re: Liquid system stores solar energy for years and releases it on demand

dv said:


Interesting, I hope it scales up okay

Any renewable, low or non polluting energy generation method is a win

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Date: 13/04/2022 10:55:35
From: sibeen
ID: 1872251
Subject: re: Liquid system stores solar energy for years and releases it on demand

Cymek said:


dv said:

Interesting, I hope it scales up okay

Any renewable, low or non polluting energy generation method is a win

No.

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Date: 13/04/2022 10:57:44
From: Cymek
ID: 1872253
Subject: re: Liquid system stores solar energy for years and releases it on demand

sibeen said:


Cymek said:

dv said:

Interesting, I hope it scales up okay

Any renewable, low or non polluting energy generation method is a win

No.

why dat ?

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Date: 13/04/2022 10:58:50
From: sibeen
ID: 1872254
Subject: re: Liquid system stores solar energy for years and releases it on demand

Cymek said:


sibeen said:

Cymek said:

Any renewable, low or non polluting energy generation method is a win

No.

why dat ?

Many of them fail as engineered projects. They end up not worth the time and energy spent producing them.

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Date: 13/04/2022 11:00:00
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1872255
Subject: re: Liquid system stores solar energy for years and releases it on demand

Cymek said:


dv said:

Interesting, I hope it scales up okay

Any renewable, low or non polluting energy generation method is a win

I wonder how the overall efficiency compares with systems that convert solar energy into ethanol or wood, and the like.

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Date: 13/04/2022 17:04:35
From: Ogmog
ID: 1872397
Subject: re: Liquid system stores solar energy for years and releases it on demand

My question is
will they be able to use it to power vehicles?

Pretty cool to go coast to coast without the need for
all the expensive (time consuming) Charging Stations
they’re working on CURRENTly

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Date: 14/04/2022 07:43:48
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1872557
Subject: re: Liquid system stores solar energy for years and releases it on demand

dv said:


Interesting, I hope it scales up okay

Agree. The energy band gap for the isomer must be small, or it couldn’t be breached by a photon.
That means that energy storage per unit mass will be small, much less than that of a rechargeable battery for example.
And the energy recovery as electricity will have low efficiency, because the energy would be released as heat which is only converted to electricity at low efficiency.

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Date: 14/04/2022 10:23:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1872585
Subject: re: Liquid system stores solar energy for years and releases it on demand

sibeen said:

Cymek said:

sibeen said:

Cymek said:

Any renewable, low or non polluting energy generation method is a win

No.

why dat ?

Many of them fail as engineered projects. They end up not worth the time and energy spent producing them.

maybe he meant a Windows, like Vista or something

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Date: 15/04/2022 10:52:12
From: Ogmog
ID: 1872849
Subject: re: Liquid system stores solar energy for years and releases it on demand

sibeen said:


Many of them fail as engineered projects. They end up not worth the time and energy spent producing them.

…or they’re shot-down
by the rich pricks making money
off home heating oil, coal power and gasoline

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Date: 15/04/2022 11:06:27
From: sibeen
ID: 1872852
Subject: re: Liquid system stores solar energy for years and releases it on demand

Ogmog said:


sibeen said:

Many of them fail as engineered projects. They end up not worth the time and energy spent producing them.

…or they’re shot-down
by the rich pricks making money
off home heating oil, coal power and gasoline

Nah. If a renewable energy project is in any way decent it gets supported.

And if you don’t think that there are rich pricks and chancers involved in RE projects then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

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Date: 15/04/2022 11:08:14
From: Tamb
ID: 1872853
Subject: re: Liquid system stores solar energy for years and releases it on demand

sibeen said:


Ogmog said:

sibeen said:

Many of them fail as engineered projects. They end up not worth the time and energy spent producing them.

…or they’re shot-down
by the rich pricks making money
off home heating oil, coal power and gasoline

Nah. If a renewable energy project is in any way decent it gets supported.

And if you don’t think that there are rich pricks and chancers involved in RE projects then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.


Very famous bridge ‘cos it was painted by Paul Hogan.

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