Date: 17/04/2022 08:52:04
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1873518
Subject: PolyJoule storage batteries

Electricity is a marvelous thing. It can power every manner of machine and digital device, but it is ephemeral. It has to be used as soon as it is created or it is lost forever. The trick to making it serve the needs of humanity is to store it, and to do that, you need a battery.

There are hundreds of ways to make a battery — the Romans did it with copper and iron in a lemon juice bath. But not all of those storage techniques are practical in the real world. Some are too heavy, others too bulky. Many are too costly or use materials that are too scare. Nickel has long been a major component of today’s lithium-ion batteries, but upheavals in some countries masterminded by criminal leaders have caused it to triple in price recently.

Some batteries are good for powering vehicles. Others are better suited to long term grid-scale storage. This report will focus on two new battery technologies that show promise for storing electricity now so it can be used to power homes and businesses later.

https://cleantechnica.com/2022/04/15/grid-scale-storage-solutions-plastic-freeze-thaw-battery-edition/amp/

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Date: 17/04/2022 11:45:55
From: Ian
ID: 1873567
Subject: re: PolyJoule storage batteries

Has Snowy Hydro 2.0 got off the ground or into it yet?

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Date: 17/04/2022 14:09:40
From: dv
ID: 1873634
Subject: re: PolyJoule storage batteries

Ian said:


Has Snowy Hydro 2.0 got off the ground or into it yet?

Construction is underway in the Monaro area but it’s still probably five years from operational.

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Date: 17/04/2022 14:27:30
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1873639
Subject: re: PolyJoule storage batteries

dv said:


Ian said:

Has Snowy Hydro 2.0 got off the ground or into it yet?

Construction is underway in the Monaro area but it’s still probably five years from operational.

Seems odd the Libnat people never talk about this.
Running late?

Over budget?

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Date: 17/04/2022 14:31:30
From: dv
ID: 1873641
Subject: re: PolyJoule storage batteries

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Ian said:

Has Snowy Hydro 2.0 got off the ground or into it yet?

Construction is underway in the Monaro area but it’s still probably five years from operational.

Seems odd the Libnat people never talk about this.
Running late?

Over budget?

Oh my wordy lordy yes

https://www.smh.com.au/national/five-years-on-snowy-2-0-emerges-as-a-10-billion-white-elephant-20220310-p5a3ge.html

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Date: 17/04/2022 14:31:42
From: party_pants
ID: 1873642
Subject: re: PolyJoule storage batteries

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Ian said:

Has Snowy Hydro 2.0 got off the ground or into it yet?

Construction is underway in the Monaro area but it’s still probably five years from operational.

Seems odd the Libnat people never talk about this.
Running late?

Over budget?

It was Turnbull’s pet project.

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Date: 17/04/2022 14:35:40
From: sibeen
ID: 1873650
Subject: re: PolyJoule storage batteries

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Construction is underway in the Monaro area but it’s still probably five years from operational.

Seems odd the Libnat people never talk about this.
Running late?

Over budget?

Oh my wordy lordy yes

https://www.smh.com.au/national/five-years-on-snowy-2-0-emerges-as-a-10-billion-white-elephant-20220310-p5a3ge.html

There are many cheaper, more efficient and far less environmentally destructive energy storage alternatives.

Hmmm.

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Date: 17/04/2022 14:45:48
From: Ian
ID: 1873660
Subject: re: PolyJoule storage batteries

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Construction is underway in the Monaro area but it’s still probably five years from operational.

Seems odd the Libnat people never talk about this.
Running late?

Over budget?

Oh my wordy lordy yes

https://www.smh.com.au/national/five-years-on-snowy-2-0-emerges-as-a-10-billion-white-elephant-20220310-p5a3ge.html

The massive cost and environmental impacts of snowy 2.0 cannot be justified for providing occasional longer-term storage.

Bugger

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Date: 17/04/2022 14:47:22
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1873661
Subject: re: PolyJoule storage batteries

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Construction is underway in the Monaro area but it’s still probably five years from operational.

Seems odd the Libnat people never talk about this.
Running late?

Over budget?

Oh my wordy lordy yes

https://www.smh.com.au/national/five-years-on-snowy-2-0-emerges-as-a-10-billion-white-elephant-20220310-p5a3ge.html

Hmm.

IHTLGAMAA
but that’s a really crappy article.

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Date: 17/04/2022 14:51:00
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1873663
Subject: re: PolyJoule storage batteries

sibeen said:


dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Seems odd the Libnat people never talk about this.
Running late?

Over budget?

Oh my wordy lordy yes

https://www.smh.com.au/national/five-years-on-snowy-2-0-emerges-as-a-10-billion-white-elephant-20220310-p5a3ge.html

There are many cheaper, more efficient and far less environmentally destructive energy storage alternatives.

Hmmm.

Oh dear, I’m agreeing with sibeen again.

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Date: 17/04/2022 14:52:13
From: party_pants
ID: 1873664
Subject: re: PolyJoule storage batteries

The Rev Dodgson said:

Hmm.

IHTLGAMAA
but that’s a really crappy article.

I hate to look ….?

Sorry, I’m gunna need help on that onr

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Date: 17/04/2022 14:53:56
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1873666
Subject: re: PolyJoule storage batteries

party_pants said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Hmm.

IHTLGAMAA
but that’s a really crappy article.

I hate to look ….?

Sorry, I’m gunna need help on that onr

MPQ
I hate the Liberal Government as much as anyone …

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Date: 17/04/2022 18:55:43
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1873741
Subject: re: PolyJoule storage batteries

dv said:


Ian said:

Has Snowy Hydro 2.0 got off the ground or into it yet?

Construction is underway in the Monaro area but it’s still probably five years from operational.

Oh.

Excellent. I can’t wait.

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