Date: 3/05/2022 01:09:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1879101
Subject: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

We were able to find the previous relevant thread quite easily and without even needing to ask, but nevertheless provide the usual regular update as interest is becoming endemic.

Please Like Us If You Like¡

Anyway here’s some fun to begin.


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Date: 3/05/2022 01:28:52
From: sibeen
ID: 1879103
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


We were able to find the previous relevant thread quite easily and without even needing to ask, but nevertheless provide the usual regular update as interest is becoming endemic.

Please Like Us If You Like¡

Anyway here’s some fun to begin.



I have to wonder how hygienic it was to have a dead man propped up at a restaurant for a few years.

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Date: 3/05/2022 01:30:39
From: dv
ID: 1879104
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

sibeen said:


SCIENCE said:

We were able to find the previous relevant thread quite easily and without even needing to ask, but nevertheless provide the usual regular update as interest is becoming endemic.

Please Like Us If You Like¡

Anyway here’s some fun to begin.



I have to wonder how hygienic it was to have a dead man propped up at a restaurant for a few years.

I’ll give the English that, they know a thing or two about taxidermy

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Date: 3/05/2022 01:46:30
From: AussieDJ
ID: 1879106
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

dv said:


sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

We were able to find the previous relevant thread quite easily and without even needing to ask, but nevertheless provide the usual regular update as interest is becoming endemic.

Please Like Us If You Like¡

Anyway here’s some fun to begin.



I have to wonder how hygienic it was to have a dead man propped up at a restaurant for a few years.

I’ll give the English that, they know a thing or two about taxidermy

I thought ‘get stuffed’ was an Australian expression.

Did we steal it from the Poms, or was it vice versa?

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Date: 3/05/2022 23:33:57
From: dv
ID: 1879423
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

My daughter has tested positive and has mild symptoms.

The rest of us have done RATS, all neg.

I was a bit bemused by the instructions.

So … remove after 90 seconds when the sponge becomes soft AND the indicator on the black turns blue.

That’s three separate conditions, and the AND makes it sound like they all have to be met, which was troubling because ours did not turn blue even after several minutes when the sponge became soft.

Checking the website showed us that what is meant is you have to keep it until

(Time passed is >=90 seconds) AND ( (the sponge has become soft ) OR (the back has turned blue) )

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Date: 3/05/2022 23:37:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1879425
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

dv said:


My daughter has tested positive and has mild symptoms.

The rest of us have done RATS, all neg.

I was a bit bemused by the instructions.

So … remove after 90 seconds when the sponge becomes soft AND the indicator on the black turns blue.

That’s three separate conditions, and the AND makes it sound like they all have to be met, which was troubling because ours did not turn blue even after several minutes when the sponge became soft.

Checking the website showed us that what is meant is you have to keep it until

(Time passed is >=90 seconds) AND ( (the sponge has become soft ) OR (the back has turned blue) )

I hope your daughter short covids well.

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Date: 4/05/2022 04:06:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1879452
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

they do say that public health communication has been one of the major failings of 2020 2021 2022 onward

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Date: 4/05/2022 17:55:57
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1879600
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

“The combination of COVID-19 and influenza seems to be particularly severe.”

“Influenza … can be a severe disease,” he said.

“I’m particularly concerned because all of our immunity will have waned over the last two years. Our general immunity is low and the virus is here and it’s beginning to spread.

“If we get it, it’s likely to be more severe.”

That’s right you babies, when there’s COVID-19 and there’s influenza, then people getting fucked up must be all the fault of … the influenza¡ The COVID-19 is just a mild bonus inevitable, a necessary.

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Date: 4/05/2022 20:56:32
From: transition
ID: 1879674
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


“The combination of COVID-19 and influenza seems to be particularly severe.”

“Influenza … can be a severe disease,” he said.

“I’m particularly concerned because all of our immunity will have waned over the last two years. Our general immunity is low and the virus is here and it’s beginning to spread.

“If we get it, it’s likely to be more severe.”

That’s right you babies, when there’s COVID-19 and there’s influenza, then people getting fucked up must be all the fault of … the influenza¡ The COVID-19 is just a mild bonus inevitable, a necessary.

went to and did reads that

might need get a flu shot, be the first ever, generally just drag my feet for 12 weeks with seasonal exposure, and about every ten years get landed on my back for three days

in related news, it’s been 8 weeks since first symptoms of covid, getting there, just bit of a sore throat on and off, don’t feel like ought push myself too much, or get cold too much, or go underslept

I haven’t measured the brain damage yet

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Date: 4/05/2022 20:59:17
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1879675
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:


SCIENCE said:

“The combination of COVID-19 and influenza seems to be particularly severe.”

“Influenza … can be a severe disease,” he said.

“I’m particularly concerned because all of our immunity will have waned over the last two years. Our general immunity is low and the virus is here and it’s beginning to spread.

“If we get it, it’s likely to be more severe.”

That’s right you babies, when there’s COVID-19 and there’s influenza, then people getting fucked up must be all the fault of … the influenza¡ The COVID-19 is just a mild bonus inevitable, a necessary.

went to and did reads that

might need get a flu shot, be the first ever, generally just drag my feet for 12 weeks with seasonal exposure, and about every ten years get landed on my back for three days

in related news, it’s been 8 weeks since first symptoms of covid, getting there, just bit of a sore throat on and off, don’t feel like ought push myself too much, or get cold too much, or go underslept

I haven’t measured the brain damage yet

That’s not going to be easy.

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Date: 4/05/2022 21:04:09
From: transition
ID: 1879676
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Peak Warming Man said:


transition said:

SCIENCE said:

“The combination of COVID-19 and influenza seems to be particularly severe.”

“Influenza … can be a severe disease,” he said.

“I’m particularly concerned because all of our immunity will have waned over the last two years. Our general immunity is low and the virus is here and it’s beginning to spread.

“If we get it, it’s likely to be more severe.”

That’s right you babies, when there’s COVID-19 and there’s influenza, then people getting fucked up must be all the fault of … the influenza¡ The COVID-19 is just a mild bonus inevitable, a necessary.

went to and did reads that

might need get a flu shot, be the first ever, generally just drag my feet for 12 weeks with seasonal exposure, and about every ten years get landed on my back for three days

in related news, it’s been 8 weeks since first symptoms of covid, getting there, just bit of a sore throat on and off, don’t feel like ought push myself too much, or get cold too much, or go underslept

I haven’t measured the brain damage yet

That’s not going to be easy.

chuckle

would it be so bad anyway, maybe i’d enjoy watching TV more

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Date: 4/05/2022 21:05:43
From: dv
ID: 1879677
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Daug’s condition is described as meh, with “throat on fire” and lethargy, so not too bad.

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Date: 5/05/2022 21:25:23
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880062
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31


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Date: 5/05/2022 21:30:26
From: dv
ID: 1880065
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

dv said:


Daug’s condition is described as meh, with “throat on fire” and lethargy, so not too bad.

Her bf has tested + as well but is asymptomatic. We did a food drop for them, they aren’t stir crazy yet.

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Date: 5/05/2022 23:46:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880090
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

we don’t know if this means anything to most of you but

What The Laugh Out Loud Fuck

Molnupiravir reduced the risk of hospital admission or death by 52% versus placebo in the interim analysis but raised risk by 35% among patients subsequently evaluated.4 There was no clear explanation for this substantial disparity in treatment effects between the interim and final phases. Molnupiravir showed no overall benefit over placebo for resolution of covid-19 related signs and symptoms.5

https://www.bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o973

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Date: 6/05/2022 00:35:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880112
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:

Good News ¡ Profits Will Be Higher Than Ever Before ¡

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/04/21/metro/puzzling-phenomenon-patients-report-rebound-covid-19-symptoms-after-taking-antiviral-paxlovid/

Patients report a rebound of COVID-19 symptoms after taking the antiviral Paxlovid

Many report that after finishing their five-day course of treatment, feeling better, and testing negative on an at-home rapid test, they then test positive again a few days later.

Paxlovid, granted an emergency use authorization by federal regulators in late December, is an at-home treatment prescribed at the first sign of infection to patients at high risk of serious COVID complications. The treatment consists of a series of three pills taken twice a day for five days. In its clinical trial, Pfizer, the pharmaceutical giant that manufactures Paxlovid, reported an 89 percent reduction in COVID-related hospitalization or death from any cause in patients who received Paxlovid within three days of symptoms, compared with patients who received a placebo.

The pills had initially been in short supply and hard to find for some but are more widely available now. Doctors have hailed the antiviral as an invaluable treatment, helping to keep vulnerable people from developing life-threatening complications. But some infectious disease specialists, while still extolling Paxlovid’s benefits, have expressed concern that the rebounds they are seeing and hearing about may indicate patients, after completing treatment — and testing negative and then positive, again — may still be infectious and transmitting the virus to others.

But Sax said it makes “intuitive sense” to re-treat patients with a second course of Paxlovid if they rebound after the first course.

nah no way no no way

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-03/pfizer-says-patients-who-relapse-after-covid-pill-can-take-more

Pfizer Inc. executives said patients who suffer a relapse in Covid-19 symptoms after taking a full course of Paxlovid should take more of the treatment, though current U.S. guidelines limit use to five consecutive days. “Paxlovid does what it has to do: it reduces the viral load,” Chief Executive Officer Albert Bourla said in an interview. “Then your body is supposed to do the job.” But for unknown reasons, the CEO said, some patients aren’t able to clear the virus with the first course of treatment. In cases where virus levels do rebound, Bourla said, “then you give a second course, like you do with antibiotics, and that’s it.”

oh

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Date: 6/05/2022 01:27:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880119
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

went to and did reads that

might need get a flu shot, be the first ever, generally just drag my feet for 12 weeks with seasonal exposure, and about every ten years get landed on my back for three days

in related news, it’s been 8 weeks since first symptoms of covid, getting there, just bit of a sore throat on and off, don’t feel like ought push myself too much, or get cold too much, or go underslept

I haven’t measured the brain damage yet

That’s not going to be easy.

chuckle

would it be so bad anyway, maybe i’d enjoy watching TV more

here these fellas measured it for everyone

https://news.sky.com/story/severe-cases-of-covid-causing-cognitive-impairment-equivalent-to-ageing-20-years-new-study-finds-12604629

we were sure we’d said it before but since in our dementia we can’t remember exactly where

it’s like this shit burns you for 20 years but vaccines give you a shield worth 10 years

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Date: 6/05/2022 01:31:17
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880120
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:

here these fellas measured it for everyone

https://news.sky.com/story/severe-cases-of-covid-causing-cognitive-impairment-equivalent-to-ageing-20-years-new-study-finds-12604629

we were sure we’d said it before but since in our dementia we can’t remember exactly where

it’s like this shit burns you for 20 years but vaccines give you a shield worth 10 years

sorry, going less populist, we mean these fellas

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(22)00147-X/fulltext

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Date: 6/05/2022 03:34:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880122
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Llllllllllllllet Iiiiiiiiiit RRRRRRRRRRRip¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-06/world-health-organization-estimates-15-million-covid-deaths/101043014

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Date: 6/05/2022 12:42:38
From: transition
ID: 1880248
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


Llllllllllllllet Iiiiiiiiiit RRRRRRRRRRRip¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-06/world-health-organization-estimates-15-million-covid-deaths/101043014

didn’t read it all, there’s only so much shared misuse of the alphabet I can stand in a day, i’m minorly consoled there is a reality outside that, outside human thought

the program of herd immunity sure has been effective, it might be said

was and is it a pandemic i’d ask, or is it something else, possibly worse

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Date: 7/05/2022 09:17:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880497
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

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Date: 7/05/2022 09:21:51
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1880498
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:



Greatest health system in the world.

All those suckers with ‘socialist’ medical systems don’t know what they’re missing out on.

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Date: 7/05/2022 09:25:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880499
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:


Greatest health system in the world.

All those suckers with ‘socialist’ medical systems don’t know what they’re missing out on.

profits

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Date: 7/05/2022 09:28:46
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1880501
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

ABC News:

‘‘I do apologise to the public’: Police officer breaks down in emotional final day of corruption hearing
By Danny Morgan
A senior Victorian police officer accused of serious misconduct ends a marathon four-day stint in the witness box in tears, apologising to his peers and his family.’

It was nice of him to apologise, wasn’t it?

Now, let’s hope that they prosecute the living shit out of him, and chuck him into the hoosegow with a lot of other people who he also presumably didn’t know had criminal records (but they know him).

“In this country it is as well to put an admiral to death bent copper in prison now and then, to encourage the others.”

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Date: 7/05/2022 09:29:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1880502
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Oops, mistake, wrong thread.

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Date: 7/05/2022 09:30:52
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1880503
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

ABC News:

‘‘I do apologise to the public’: Police officer breaks down in emotional final day of corruption hearing
By Danny Morgan
A senior Victorian police officer accused of serious misconduct ends a marathon four-day stint in the witness box in tears, apologising to his peers and his family.’

It was nice of him to apologise, wasn’t it?

Now, let’s hope that they prosecute the living shit out of him, and chuck him into the hoosegow with a lot of other people who he also presumably didn’t know had criminal records (but they know him).

“In this country it is as well to put an admiral to death bent copper in prison now and then, to encourage the others.”

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Date: 7/05/2022 09:31:41
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1880504
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Bugger, i did it again!

I can take a hint, i’ll stop now.

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Date: 7/05/2022 09:32:13
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1880505
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Bugger, i did it again!

I can take a hint, i’ll stop now.

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Date: 7/05/2022 10:40:40
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1880540
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

The Children Left Behind by Long Covid

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Date: 7/05/2022 10:41:20
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1880543
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Try again ..

The Children Left Behind by Long Covid

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Date: 7/05/2022 10:41:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880544
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

oops

https://torontosun.com/health/omicron-as-severe-as-previous-covid-variants-large-study-finds

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1601788/v1

nice

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Date: 7/05/2022 12:34:13
From: transition
ID: 1880573
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


oops

https://torontosun.com/health/omicron-as-severe-as-previous-covid-variants-large-study-finds

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1601788/v1

nice

criminal in my opinion, promoting wild covid, which is what’s happened, the view was that if enough people were involved in doing that it couldn’t be criminal

makes no difference though, the collective stupid doesn’t make it less stupid

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Date: 7/05/2022 14:42:45
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1880599
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Spiny Norman said:


Try again ..

The Children Left Behind by Long Covid

Never mind that, there’s money to be made. Let her rip!

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Date: 7/05/2022 19:58:20
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880714
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

oops

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Date: 7/05/2022 20:08:50
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1880715
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:

oops


That is also only one province in SA.

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Date: 7/05/2022 20:12:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880716
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

poikilotherm said:

 

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Date: 7/05/2022 20:13:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880717
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

poikilotherm said:

SCIENCE said:

oops


That is also only one province in SA.

¿ so the problem is actually 4 times worse ?

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Date: 7/05/2022 20:23:57
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1880720
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:

poikilotherm said:

SCIENCE said:

oops


That is also only one province in SA.

¿ so the problem is actually 4 times worse ?

Or 4x less worse.

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Date: 7/05/2022 20:54:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880722
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

poikilotherm said:

SCIENCE said:

poikilotherm said:

That is also only one province in SA.

¿ so the problem is actually 4 times worse ?

Or 4x less worse.

you’re right, the rest of the country must be at absolute zero cases

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Date: 7/05/2022 20:56:11
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880723
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Laugh Out Loud What A Bunch Of Fucking Malingerers

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/selfreportedlongcovidafterinfectionwiththeomicronvariant/6may2022

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Date: 7/05/2022 21:03:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880725
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Back Up A BIT,CHINA Were Right Again, This Time When They MURDERED Pet Dogs

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10789789/Health-chiefs-probing-DOGS-blame-mysterious-hepatitis-outbreak.html

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Date: 7/05/2022 21:47:06
From: transition
ID: 1880734
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


Back Up A BIT,CHINA Were Right Again, This Time When They MURDERED Pet Dogs

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10789789/Health-chiefs-probing-DOGS-blame-mysterious-hepatitis-outbreak.html

i’m calling it the end days of civilization of that passes for news

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Date: 7/05/2022 22:19:11
From: transition
ID: 1880745
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


Laugh Out Loud What A Bunch Of Fucking Malingerers

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/selfreportedlongcovidafterinfectionwiththeomicronvariant/6may2022


still an impressive maiming in progress, the good work of the endemicists, they be retreating into the background noise I bet, disappearing into the pathosphere

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Date: 7/05/2022 22:26:13
From: transition
ID: 1880750
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:


SCIENCE said:

Laugh Out Loud What A Bunch Of Fucking Malingerers

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/selfreportedlongcovidafterinfectionwiththeomicronvariant/6may2022


still an impressive maiming in progress, the good work of the endemicists, they be retreating into the background noise I bet, disappearing into the pathosphere

won’t be long they be diverting your attention by absurd devices such as pointing at your pet dogs, hoodoo stuff

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Date: 8/05/2022 02:18:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1880783
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

here have some

lies

https://www.theage.com.au/national/we-re-living-with-covid-but-more-of-us-are-dying-than-ever-20220429-p5ah7y.html

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Date: 8/05/2022 04:49:05
From: transition
ID: 1880794
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:

here have some

lies

https://www.theage.com.au/national/we-re-living-with-covid-but-more-of-us-are-dying-than-ever-20220429-p5ah7y.html

there won’t be any recovering from the psychological corruption of using vaccines as a vote to let covid go

the language around the subject is worse than unreliable, appeals to the covid gregarious and more generally a crude libertarian philosophy, doesn’t matter what is said now words are like goofer dust

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Date: 9/05/2022 12:43:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1881345
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

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Date: 9/05/2022 13:22:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1881353
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31


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Date: 9/05/2022 17:16:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1881416
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

clearly the correct solution

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-09/covid-positive-with-kids-how-to-get-help/101026582

should be to make sure there’s less isolation and more random people simply rocking up to take care of the baby goats

rather than stopping transmission of dementiavirus

(disclaimer: yes we know the article doesn’t make these comments)

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Date: 9/05/2022 19:58:53
From: transition
ID: 1881479
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


clearly the correct solution

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-09/covid-positive-with-kids-how-to-get-help/101026582

should be to make sure there’s less isolation and more random people simply rocking up to take care of the baby goats

rather than stopping transmission of dementiavirus

(disclaimer: yes we know the article doesn’t make these comments)

wonderful article, read it earlier, makes it sound like it could be a 24hour thing, now granted i’m a little prejudiced against the devices for normalizing it, normalizing the pandemiendimicidalism (try saying that after a few beers), convenient instrumental confusions that way toward herd immunity, but i’d just point out that within the range of individuals having normal immune function there are quite a lot of people that don’t get over it quickly, and likely continue to be somewhat contagious

but don’t tell anyone, it’s a secret

as you were, continue with the correct thoughts

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Date: 9/05/2022 20:06:41
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1881484
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:

but don’t tell anyone, it’s a secret

as you were

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Date: 9/05/2022 23:53:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1881529
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

easily treatable

We performed a cross-sectional study of pLT recipients who received transplants between 1985 and 2004. A 20-year evaluation of physical health (growth, renal function), mental wellbeing and social outcomes (substance abuse, adherence, education, employment) was performed. All patients included were considered to have normal graft function.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00267-4/fulltext

Eighty-four patients met study criteria. Median age at transplantation was 1.3 years (IQR 0·7–3·3 years), with median duration of follow-up of 20.2 years (18·0–23·5). At median of 20-years, 19 patients (23%) had chronic renal dysfunction and 3 patients (4%) had a BMI of >30 (mean 20·4). Evaluation of long-term psychosocial outcomes demonstrated 22 patients (26%) with mental health disorders. Substance abuse was lower than national average. 62 patients (74%) were in education, employment or training. Overall, only 26% of our cohort achieved a composite outcome of ‘meaningful survival’.

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Date: 10/05/2022 01:04:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1881545
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Laugh Out Loud

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Date: 10/05/2022 01:10:48
From: furious
ID: 1881548
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


Laugh Out Loud


Stupid populist nonsense. Cases through the roof? Let’s get rid of restrictions!

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Date: 10/05/2022 01:16:03
From: sibeen
ID: 1881550
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

furious said:


SCIENCE said:

Laugh Out Loud


Stupid populist nonsense. Cases through the roof? Let’s get rid of restrictions!

Yeah, but they have a total of 6 people in the ICU.

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Date: 10/05/2022 01:21:37
From: furious
ID: 1881551
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

sibeen said:


furious said:

SCIENCE said:

Laugh Out Loud


Stupid populist nonsense. Cases through the roof? Let’s get rid of restrictions!

Yeah, but they have a total of 6 people in the ICU.

That’s a lag indicator, by the time it catches up, it’s too late…

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Date: 10/05/2022 01:30:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1881552
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

Back Up A BIT,CHINA Were Right Again, This Time When They MURDERED Pet Dogs

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10789789/Health-chiefs-probing-DOGS-blame-mysterious-hepatitis-outbreak.html

i’m calling it the end days of civilization of that passes for news

Laugh Out Loud What A Bunch Of Fucking Malingerers

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/selfreportedlongcovidafterinfectionwiththeomicronvariant/6may2022


still an impressive maiming in progress, the good work of the endemicists, they be retreating into the background noise I bet, disappearing into the pathosphere

won’t be long they be diverting your attention by absurd devices such as pointing at your pet dogs, hoodoo stuff

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Date: 10/05/2022 04:44:05
From: transition
ID: 1881558
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


transition said:

transition said:

still an impressive maiming in progress, the good work of the endemicists, they be retreating into the background noise I bet, disappearing into the pathosphere

won’t be long they be diverting your attention by absurd devices such as pointing at your pet dogs, hoodoo stuff


chuckle

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Date: 10/05/2022 22:18:56
From: transition
ID: 1881895
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:


SCIENCE said:

transition said:

won’t be long they be diverting your attention by absurd devices such as pointing at your pet dogs, hoodoo stuff


chuckle

subject maiming, my reading below
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID

something else to count, count it into existence then undercount, render it uncountable, the oblivion of the expansionist’s pathosphere

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Date: 10/05/2022 23:12:39
From: transition
ID: 1881911
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:


transition said:

SCIENCE said:


chuckle

subject maiming, my reading below
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID

something else to count, count it into existence then undercount, render it uncountable, the oblivion of the expansionist’s pathosphere

i’ll say’t, just on the evidence of long covid prevalence, on that basis I absolutely support the Chinese approach to covid, and I won’t be convinced otherwise

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Date: 11/05/2022 04:36:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1881950
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:

transition said:

transition said:

chuckle

subject maiming, my reading below
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID

something else to count, count it into existence then undercount, render it uncountable, the oblivion of the expansionist’s pathosphere

i’ll say’t, just on the evidence of long covid prevalence, on that basis I absolutely support the Chinese approach to covid, and I won’t be convinced otherwise

is it the same as this one

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Date: 11/05/2022 09:25:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1882003
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

apparently there was no adenovirus and dogs aren’t even mentioned

https://www.masslive.com/news/2022/05/mysterious-hepatitis-infection-found-in-2-massachusetts-children-significant-liver-damage-failure-in-children-cdc-says.html

what a joke eh ahahahahahaha so funny

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Date: 11/05/2022 12:08:07
From: transition
ID: 1882038
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


apparently there was no adenovirus and dogs aren’t even mentioned

https://www.masslive.com/news/2022/05/mysterious-hepatitis-infection-found-in-2-massachusetts-children-significant-liver-damage-failure-in-children-cdc-says.html

what a joke eh ahahahahahaha so funny

couldn’t get in, asserts I have an ad blocker

I like the mysterious part, sort of draws you in, encourages more of it so it won’t be a mystery, you’re encouraged to both indulge and resolve the mystery, which requires more examples of it, more evidence

the normalization, an equivalent stupid might be living with mushroom clouds

just my dumb opinion

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Date: 11/05/2022 20:16:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1882177
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:

apparently there was no adenovirus and dogs aren’t even mentioned

what a joke eh ahahahahahaha so funny

but wait there’s more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiATDMHU7gc

this is fucking hilarious, it’s amazingly entertaining

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Date: 11/05/2022 20:18:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1882178
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

apparently there was no adenovirus and dogs aren’t even mentioned

https://www.masslive.com/news/2022/05/mysterious-hepatitis-infection-found-in-2-massachusetts-children-significant-liver-damage-failure-in-children-cdc-says.html

what a joke eh ahahahahahaha so funny

couldn’t get in, asserts I have an ad blocker

I like the mysterious part, sort of draws you in, encourages more of it so it won’t be a mystery, you’re encouraged to both indulge and resolve the mystery, which requires more examples of it, more evidence

the normalization, an equivalent stupid might be living with mushroom clouds

just my dumb opinion

Mysterious hepatitis infection found in 2 Massachusetts children; significant liver damage, failure in children, cdc says

Massachusetts health officials have launched an investigation after two Massachusetts children were diagnosed with a pediatric hepatitis infection that’s been causing significant liver damage and failure in children. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Massachusetts Department of Public Health told CBS Boston reporters that two Massachusetts children contracted the hepatitis infection. Further details about to the children’s cases have not been released due to the patients’ age. Officials said they both tested negative for adenovirus infection — a common cause for contracting hepatitis in immunocompromised children.

Two of the children had to have liver transplants and no patients have died, according to officials. All of the pediatric patients were previously healthy and none of them tested positive for COVID-19 beforehand. Experts suggest that adenoviruses — viruses typically associated with cold-like symptoms, fever, sore throat and pink eye — may be causing the severe liver damage.

oops we think what they meant was

Two of the children had to have liver transplants and no patients have died, according to officials. All of the pediatric patients were previously healthy and none of them tested

the end

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Date: 11/05/2022 20:24:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1882179
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

what’s it called when people only listen to good advice after they fuck up

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Date: 11/05/2022 20:42:44
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1882180
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Fit-tested N95 masks combined with portable HEPA filtration can protect against high aerosolized viral loads over prolonged periods at close range .

https://academic.oup.com/jid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/infdis/jiac195/6582941?login=false

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Date: 11/05/2022 22:03:04
From: transition
ID: 1882188
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


SCIENCE said:

apparently there was no adenovirus and dogs aren’t even mentioned

what a joke eh ahahahahahaha so funny

but wait there’s more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiATDMHU7gc

this is fucking hilarious, it’s amazingly entertaining

I readed some…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aplastic_anemia
“………..Aplastic anemia is present in up to 2% of patients with acute viral hepatitis…….”

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Date: 11/05/2022 22:58:41
From: transition
ID: 1882190
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


what’s it called when people only listen to good advice after they fuck up


oh look someone else caught the contagious contagion of inevitable inevitability, or the inevitable inevitability of the contagious contagious, however you like your recursive stupid

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Date: 12/05/2022 07:08:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1882243
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Laugh Out Loud





no you idiot you’re counting it wrong, if you cut that lifetime short, then that $800000 comes out faster, so the economy runs hotter and stronger and better

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Date: 12/05/2022 07:21:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1882249
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Spiny Norman said:

Fit-tested N95 masks combined with portable HEPA filtration can protect against high aerosolized viral loads over prolonged periods at close range .

https://academic.oup.com/jid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/infdis/jiac195/6582941?login=false

thanks

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-11303-8

guess it’s entirely possible to stop transmission and decrease reproduction number to less than unity and asymptotically approach null SARACAIDS-19 after all

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Date: 12/05/2022 14:10:49
From: transition
ID: 1882328
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

dear God, watched normal also
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-12/sa-records-4696-new-covid-19-cases-and-seven-deaths/101060670

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Date: 12/05/2022 14:12:18
From: transition
ID: 1882329
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:


dear God, watched normal also
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-12/sa-records-4696-new-covid-19-cases-and-seven-deaths/101060670

norman, should have said

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Date: 12/05/2022 15:55:20
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1882378
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGF-UNk3UdE

Link

Animated World Map of COVID-19 Spread (till April 2022)

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Date: 12/05/2022 16:20:38
From: transition
ID: 1882398
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:


transition said:

dear God, watched normal also
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-12/sa-records-4696-new-covid-19-cases-and-seven-deaths/101060670

norman, should have said

that was a freudian typo, Norman given his own show a while back, to me seems to have got swung nicely to normalizing whatever it is, however one might see it

i’d suggest the wild covid business probably is more like three or four bad airliner crash landings a week, if you add the morbidities and disruption

no cheer for AJ on that analogy, won’t help sell tickets and get people airborne and mobile

all helps with the desensitization though, even talking about desensitization, but there’s another dimension to desensitization, where it is a very different thing to desensitization, and that is masking, where they overlap required an uncommon effort to see them as distinct things, and you need see them as distinct things to consider how they might be deployed as indistinct, or indistinguishably

an esoteric consideration perhaps, but there it is

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Date: 12/05/2022 23:13:10
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1882520
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Mrs m tells me that North Korea is in a bad way with Covid at the moment.
Real information is still sketchy.

Looking at Covid deaths from 2020 to now. I’m not at all happy.

UK and NZ deaths are still on the high side.

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Date: 12/05/2022 23:32:43
From: transition
ID: 1882523
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

mollwollfumble said:


Mrs m tells me that North Korea is in a bad way with Covid at the moment.
Real information is still sketchy.

Looking at Covid deaths from 2020 to now. I’m not at all happy.

……./cut by me master transition, and apologies/…..

India’s very flat there, must have had a staggeringly effective pandemic response, herd immunity perhaps, I hear it’s going around

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Date: 13/05/2022 04:01:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1882559
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

what’s it called when people only listen to good advice after they fuck up


oh look someone else caught the contagious contagion of inevitable inevitability, or the inevitable inevitability of the contagious contagious, however you like your recursive stupid

nothing like the big badboy catching some wind to inspire people to give give give eh

so you all needed some good news today well this is probably it, probably as good as it gets

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-helped-raise-31-billion-global-pandemic-response-2022-05-12/

WASHINGTON, May 12 (Reuters) – The United States will share technologies used to make COVID-19 vaccines through the World Health Organization and is working to expand rapid testing and antiviral treatments for hard-to-reach populations, President Joe Biden said on Thursday. “We are making available health technologies that are owned by the United States government, including stabilized spike protein that is used in many COVID-19 vaccines,” Biden said in his opening speech.

Several generic drugmakers that will produce versions of Pfizer’s (PFE.N) COVID-19 antiviral treatment Paxlovid have agreed to sell the medicine in low- and middle-income countries for $25 a course or less, the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI) said on Thursday. The technologies will be licensed by the U.S. National Institutes for Health to the WHO’s COVID-19 Technology Access Pool (C-TAP) and the MPP, initiatives set up to share know-how with manufacturers all around the world, allowing them to work on generic versions of key COVID-19 tools. Scientists at the NIH worked with Moderna (MRNA.O)to develop its COVID-19 shot.

“It’s through sharing and empowering lower-income countries to manufacture their own health tools that we can ensure a healthier future for everyone,” said WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.

as some have said better late than never

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Date: 13/05/2022 05:31:07
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1882561
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

probably caused by lockdowns

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/05/11/drug-overdose-deaths-cdc-numbers/

More Americans died of drug overdoses in 2021 than any previous year, a grim milestone in an epidemic that has now claimed 1 million lives in the 21st century, according to federal data released Wednesday. More than 100,000 Americans died of drug overdoses in 2021, up 15 percent from the previous year, according to an estimate released by the National Center for Health Statistics. The tally of 107,622 reflects challenges exacerbated by the coronavirus pandemic: lost access to treatment, social isolation and a more potent drug supply.

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Date: 13/05/2022 05:52:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1882562
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

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Date: 13/05/2022 06:12:41
From: Michael V
ID: 1882565
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

what’s it called when people only listen to good advice after they fuck up


oh look someone else caught the contagious contagion of inevitable inevitability, or the inevitable inevitability of the contagious contagious, however you like your recursive stupid

nothing like the big badboy catching some wind to inspire people to give give give eh

so you all needed some good news today well this is probably it, probably as good as it gets

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-helped-raise-31-billion-global-pandemic-response-2022-05-12/

WASHINGTON, May 12 (Reuters) – The United States will share technologies used to make COVID-19 vaccines through the World Health Organization and is working to expand rapid testing and antiviral treatments for hard-to-reach populations, President Joe Biden said on Thursday. “We are making available health technologies that are owned by the United States government, including stabilized spike protein that is used in many COVID-19 vaccines,” Biden said in his opening speech.

Several generic drugmakers that will produce versions of Pfizer’s (PFE.N) COVID-19 antiviral treatment Paxlovid have agreed to sell the medicine in low- and middle-income countries for $25 a course or less, the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI) said on Thursday. The technologies will be licensed by the U.S. National Institutes for Health to the WHO’s COVID-19 Technology Access Pool (C-TAP) and the MPP, initiatives set up to share know-how with manufacturers all around the world, allowing them to work on generic versions of key COVID-19 tools. Scientists at the NIH worked with Moderna (MRNA.O)to develop its COVID-19 shot.

“It’s through sharing and empowering lower-income countries to manufacture their own health tools that we can ensure a healthier future for everyone,” said WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.

as some have said better late than never

However, where a person earns on average <$160 (USD, PPP*) per month (as in Tanzania) even that seemingly low $25 price tag is quite out of reach.

. * PPP = purchasing power parity

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Date: 13/05/2022 10:42:06
From: transition
ID: 1882624
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


probably caused by lockdowns

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/05/11/drug-overdose-deaths-cdc-numbers/

More Americans died of drug overdoses in 2021 than any previous year, a grim milestone in an epidemic that has now claimed 1 million lives in the 21st century, according to federal data released Wednesday. More than 100,000 Americans died of drug overdoses in 2021, up 15 percent from the previous year, according to an estimate released by the National Center for Health Statistics. The tally of 107,622 reflects challenges exacerbated by the coronavirus pandemic: lost access to treatment, social isolation and a more potent drug supply.

money has no conscience or memory, so you can imagine its potential to ‘liberate’ by way of crude notions that pass for morality

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Date: 13/05/2022 22:52:46
From: transition
ID: 1882924
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704

I am having look at covid numbers

‘…Australia’s official case counts have become increasingly inaccurate as testing facilities struggle to keep up with demand fuelled by the Omicron variant and people are asked to rely on rapid antigen tests (RATs) that are in short supply…’

possibly not verbatim^ I typed it from memory using my savant gifts

i’d like to see where it was wrote or spoke, or there exists any convincing evidence in the real world of things, that the intention or objective of testing was (part of a policy and program implementation) to keep the numbers within capacity, within testing capacity, so they might be accurate numbers, and continue to be accurate numbers

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Date: 14/05/2022 11:22:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1883096
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Peak Warming Man said:

NZ PM has covid.

didn’t ‘e ask for it

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Date: 14/05/2022 17:00:19
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1883185
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Since last family update.

My sister in Sydney has it now.

My nephew and his wife in New York have had it.
Their children have had it twice.

Despite all being vaccinated up to the limit of the law.

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Date: 14/05/2022 18:34:04
From: dv
ID: 1883235
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Daug and Daug’s bf have recovered well enough to be socialising with us and now the boss lady thinks she might have it, had a PCR test at Royal Perth this morning. Apparently the turnaround is pretty good now and we may get an answer by close of biz.

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Date: 15/05/2022 00:05:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1883379
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

some people have brains and want to keep them functioning

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Date: 15/05/2022 00:07:48
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1883380
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


some people have brains and want to keep them functioning


So why are they gathered in a large crowd when they could do that from home?

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Date: 15/05/2022 00:09:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1883382
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Bubblecar said:

SCIENCE said:

some people have brains and want to keep them functioning


So why are they gathered in a large crowd when they could do that from home?

oh we didn’t say that those were the same people

and we broadly agree with your point

but yeah at least for their gathering which we presume is as “normal” as they are aiming for, they are doing the things that are most going to protect them

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Date: 15/05/2022 00:19:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1883390
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

no they’re not

oh wait

shit

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Date: 15/05/2022 00:40:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1883407
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

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Date: 15/05/2022 11:31:28
From: transition
ID: 1883521
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


no they’re not

oh wait

shit

endothelial insult, perhaps

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Date: 15/05/2022 11:31:48
From: transition
ID: 1883522
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:


SCIENCE said:

no they’re not

oh wait

shit

endothelial insult, perhaps

viral-induced

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Date: 15/05/2022 12:02:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1883536
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

no they’re not

oh wait

shit

endothelial insult, perhaps

viral-induced

get real, more like it was the dogs and lockdowns

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Date: 15/05/2022 12:06:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1883539
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

transition said:

endothelial insult, perhaps

viral-induced

get real, more like it was the dogs and lockdowns


fair point, adenovirus, dog, or lockdown

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Date: 15/05/2022 13:54:58
From: transition
ID: 1883574
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


transition said:

transition said:

endothelial insult, perhaps

viral-induced

get real, more like it was the dogs and lockdowns

yeah coronavirus exposure-deprivation syndrome, and mysterious canine-induced hepatitis syndrome

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Date: 16/05/2022 14:10:10
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1883981
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Flu-like illnesses in Australia, including Covid.

Highest incidence since September 2019.

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Date: 16/05/2022 16:09:08
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1884063
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

ABC Perth ·
The number of people in hospital with COVID-19 in WA has now breached the threshold that medical experts believe warrants the re-introduction of COVID restrictions.

STORY:
Link.

WA recorded 12,266 new COVID-19 cases to 8pm last night with 314 hospitalisations and 11 people in intensive care.
The Australian Medical Association and the Australian Nursing Federation have previously called on the government to reinstate the mask mandate and other restrictions if the number of hospitalisations breached 300.
The state government has also flagged hospitalisation and intensive care figures as the numbers to watch, but despite the spike in the number of people in hospital, the Health Minister said it still falls within a manageable range.
Instead, Amber-Jade Sanderson pointed at staff furlough figures as the critical number now affecting health services, with about 2200 staff absent due to being sick or needing to isolate.

“The number that’s challenging hospitals at the moment is not so much hospitalisations, but furlough staff. That’s the number we’re watching,” Ms Sanderson said.

More details:
Link.
More WA news here:
Link.

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Date: 16/05/2022 20:25:15
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1884163
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

How Omicron Infection Turbo-Charges Vaccinated People’s Immunity
Breakthrough infections bested booster shots in two studies
BioNTech team says results argue for omicron-specific booster

ByNaomi Kresge
15 May 2022, 17:30 GMT+10

People who are vaccinated and then get infected with omicron may be primed to overcome a broad range of coronavirus variants, early research suggests.

A pair of studies showed that infection produced even better immune responses than a booster shot in vaccinated patients. Teams from Covid-19 vaccine maker BioNTech SE and the University of Washington posted the results on preprint server bioRxiv in recent weeks.

The findings offer a reassuring sign that the millions of vaccinated people who’ve caught omicron probably won’t become seriously ill from another variant soon — even though the research needs to be confirmed, especially by real-world evidence.

“We should think about breakthrough infections as essentially equivalent to another dose of vaccine,” said John Wherry, a professor and director of the Institute for Immunology at the University of Pennsylvania who wasn’t involved in the research but reviewed the BioNTech study. That could mean that if someone had Covid recently, they could wait before getting another booster shot, according to Wherry.

Alexandra Walls, a principal scientist at the University of Washington who authored one of the studies, cautioned that people shouldn’t seek out infections in response to the findings.

The data comes as omicron continue to fuel outbreaks around the world, most notably in China, where residents of Shanghai have endured almost six weeks of lockdown. Waves of new variants are coming more quickly in part because omicron is so transmissible, giving it ample opportunity to spread and mutate as countries drop restrictions, said Sam Fazeli, an analyst with Bloomberg Intelligence. Meanwhile, regulators are weighing whether Covid vaccines should be updated to target omicron.

BioNTech’s team argued that the data indicate that offering people an omicron-adapted booster shot may be more beneficial than multiple ones with the original vaccines.

The Washington research, conducted together with Vir Biotechnology Inc., looked at blood samples from people who had been infected, then had two or three doses of vaccine, as well as those who’d caught the delta and omicron variants after two or three doses; others still had been vaccinated and boosted but never caught Covid. A final group had only been infected with omicron and never vaccinated.

One part of the study zeroed in on antibodies, the protective proteins tailored to recognize and neutralize invaders. It showed vaccinated people who’d caught omicron had antibodies that outperformed the others. They were even capable of recognizing and attacking the very different delta variant.

“That indicates that we are at the point where we may want to consider having a different vaccine to boost people,” said David Veesler, an assistant professor at the University of Washington, who led the research. The scientists were also able to identify antibodies in the nasal mucous of these patients, which could help them neutralize the virus as soon as it enters the body.

Nasal Sprays Are Poised to Be the Next Weapon for Fighting Covid

Both the Washington and BioNTech studies also looked at another piece of the immune system: B cells, a type of white blood cells that can kick in to produce a burst of fresh antibodies if they recognize a pathogen. People who’d had an omicron breakthrough infection had a broader response from these useful cells than those who’d had a booster shot but no infection, the BioNTech team found.

Crucially, the Washington team also found that the broad response was missing in unvaccinated people who had caught omicron as their first exposure to the virus. This “would be a problem if a new variant that is significantly different emerged,” Veesler said.

There’s no guarantee that future mutations will be as mild as omicron, and the pandemic’s future is hard to predict since it depends not just on immunity in the population, but also on how much the virus mutates.

Other researchers who reviewed the studies said the findings match up with the growing body of evidence for an immune boost from exposure to different virus variants via vaccination and infection. Scientists have also shown broad immune responses in people who caught delta after getting their shots.

“Maybe this is an indication that an updated booster might be a good idea,” said Theodora Hatziioannou, a virologist at The Rockefeller University who helped lead a team that looked at breakthrough infections in a group of vaccinated people in New York City.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-15/how-omicron-infection-turbo-charges-vaccinated-people-s-immunity?

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Date: 17/05/2022 05:54:53
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884268
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Witty Rejoinder said:

Omicron Infection Turbo-Charges Vaccinated People’s Immunity

People who are vaccinated and then get infected with omicron may be primed to overcome a broad range of coronavirus variants, early research suggests.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-15/how-omicron-infection-turbo-charges-vaccinated-people-s-immunity ?

is this the same bloomberg laugh out loud

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

hint: if it happens 6 times a year then the answer could be 480 but it’s probably closer to 10 before you reach the same endpoint

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Date: 17/05/2022 07:04:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884270
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

fun incoming

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Date: 17/05/2022 09:04:41
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884281
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

If only there were a way to prevent transmission of SARACAIDS-MISC virus so that people wouldn’t feel the need to be injected with dangerous vaccines¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-17/covid-vaccines-booster-astrazeneca-australian-deaths/101055494

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Date: 17/05/2022 09:17:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884287
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

lol what a crock

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-17/omicron-catch-covid-twice-how-sick-will-you-be/101071264

But while Omicron appears to be causing more reinfections than other variants, there isn’t enough robust data to make firm conclusions about the severity of reinfection with Omicron or other variants. What we know for certain is we need more data from more people to say that reinfection is less severe.

must be retarded to not be able to jump in as quickly as during the last overwhelming infection period when it was immediately obvious without any bulk data at all that it was getting milder

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Date: 17/05/2022 09:21:02
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884290
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

here’s a good exercise in misdirection, but sure go on blaming adenovirus CHINA for the hepatitis proliferation of gun violence

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2022-05-17/hepatitis-mystery-cases-children-symptoms-what-we-know/101062808

not just our misdirection

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Date: 17/05/2022 10:14:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1884311
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-17/covid-vaccines-booster-astrazeneca-australian-deaths/101055494

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Date: 17/05/2022 11:52:57
From: transition
ID: 1884349
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

sarahs mum said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-17/covid-vaccines-booster-astrazeneca-australian-deaths/101055494

how fortunate the we are to have the broadcaster, to soften the landing into the borderless world of free-range covid, and other things

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Date: 17/05/2022 12:05:08
From: transition
ID: 1884354
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


here’s a good exercise in misdirection, but sure go on blaming adenovirus CHINA for the hepatitis proliferation of gun violence

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2022-05-17/hepatitis-mystery-cases-children-symptoms-what-we-know/101062808

not just our misdirection

I look forward to the broadcaster’s articles regard what causes healthiness

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Date: 17/05/2022 12:22:18
From: transition
ID: 1884361
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


lol what a crock

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-17/omicron-catch-covid-twice-how-sick-will-you-be/101071264

But while Omicron appears to be causing more reinfections than other variants, there isn’t enough robust data to make firm conclusions about the severity of reinfection with Omicron or other variants. What we know for certain is we need more data from more people to say that reinfection is less severe.

must be retarded to not be able to jump in as quickly as during the last overwhelming infection period when it was immediately obvious without any bulk data at all that it was getting milder

they want more infections to study, need more infections, and preferably that indicate reinfection is less severe

goodoh, the new medicine

measure it into existence, measure it into greater prevalence

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Date: 17/05/2022 17:20:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884443
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

here’s a good exercise in misdirection, but sure go on blaming adenovirus CHINA for the hepatitis proliferation of gun violence

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2022-05-17/hepatitis-mystery-cases-children-symptoms-what-we-know/101062808

not just our misdirection

I look forward to the broadcaster’s articles regard what causes healthiness

meditation, murder-free diets, magnetic jewellery, photosynthetic mellow, and sweet clean open air

wait

at least one of those actually would help in 2022 but it doesn’t have ‘m’ in it

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Date: 17/05/2022 17:54:52
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884446
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

can’t they just give some teenagers a couple of hours of training




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Date: 17/05/2022 18:46:03
From: transition
ID: 1884458
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


can’t they just give some teenagers a couple of hours of training





crosseyed derr read some about that, bullshit came to mind

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Date: 18/05/2022 08:06:58
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884590
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Fuck Dirty Profiteering Insurance Companies

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Date: 18/05/2022 09:12:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884620
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

these appropriations may be inappropriate

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Date: 18/05/2022 10:18:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884631
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

some hard core hedging right here

“There’s definitely an argument that masks would assist in protecting hospitals, and is something that should certainly be on the table.”

maybe they should be on the face

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Date: 18/05/2022 10:24:09
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1884638
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


some hard core hedging right here

“There’s definitely an argument that masks would assist in protecting hospitals, and is something that should certainly be on the table.”

maybe they should be on the face

Not allowed to enter LGH without donning a mask (provided) and filling in Covid form. Ditto our village health clinic.

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Date: 18/05/2022 10:28:40
From: Tamb
ID: 1884643
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Bubblecar said:


SCIENCE said:

some hard core hedging right here

“There’s definitely an argument that masks would assist in protecting hospitals, and is something that should certainly be on the table.”

maybe they should be on the face

Not allowed to enter LGH without donning a mask (provided) and filling in Covid form. Ditto our village health clinic.


In lieu of the covid form we can use the Check in Qld covid vax app.

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Date: 18/05/2022 10:33:15
From: buffy
ID: 1884645
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Bubblecar said:


SCIENCE said:

some hard core hedging right here

“There’s definitely an argument that masks would assist in protecting hospitals, and is something that should certainly be on the table.”

maybe they should be on the face

Not allowed to enter LGH without donning a mask (provided) and filling in Covid form. Ditto our village health clinic.

Yes, I reminded Mr buffy he would need a mask at the Family Clinic this morning. I wonder if he remembered when he got there.

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Date: 18/05/2022 10:38:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884647
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Political Interference

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Date: 18/05/2022 10:39:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884648
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

here they go again again again

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Date: 18/05/2022 12:27:44
From: transition
ID: 1884658
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


some hard core hedging right here

“There’s definitely an argument that masks would assist in protecting hospitals, and is something that should certainly be on the table.”

maybe they should be on the face

if the anarcho-capitalists weren’t taking over the show globally P2 masks would be universally encouraged, and disposable medical gloves would be provided on entry to supermarkets etc, with suitable disposal facilities out in the carparks

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Date: 18/05/2022 12:30:31
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1884659
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:


SCIENCE said:

some hard core hedging right here

“There’s definitely an argument that masks would assist in protecting hospitals, and is something that should certainly be on the table.”

maybe they should be on the face

if the anarcho-capitalists weren’t taking over the show globally P2 masks would be universally encouraged, and disposable medical gloves would be provided on entry to supermarkets etc, with suitable disposal facilities out in the carparks

Everyone, staff and visitors, still has to wear masks in the hospitlal i’m working in.

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Date: 18/05/2022 12:32:43
From: Tamb
ID: 1884661
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

captain_spalding said:


transition said:

SCIENCE said:

some hard core hedging right here

“There’s definitely an argument that masks would assist in protecting hospitals, and is something that should certainly be on the table.”

maybe they should be on the face

if the anarcho-capitalists weren’t taking over the show globally P2 masks would be universally encouraged, and disposable medical gloves would be provided on entry to supermarkets etc, with suitable disposal facilities out in the carparks

Everyone, staff and visitors, still has to wear masks in the hospitlal i’m working in.


Same here.

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Date: 18/05/2022 12:33:52
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1884662
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

captain_spalding said:


transition said:

SCIENCE said:

some hard core hedging right here

“There’s definitely an argument that masks would assist in protecting hospitals, and is something that should certainly be on the table.”

maybe they should be on the face

if the anarcho-capitalists weren’t taking over the show globally P2 masks would be universally encouraged, and disposable medical gloves would be provided on entry to supermarkets etc, with suitable disposal facilities out in the carparks

Everyone, staff and visitors, still has to wear masks in the hospitlal i’m working in.

Funnily enough though the LGH let me do without a mask after the operation, and in the ambulance drive to our little hospital, and as a patient in the latter. But all the staff wore masks.

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Date: 18/05/2022 12:35:28
From: transition
ID: 1884663
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

captain_spalding said:


transition said:

SCIENCE said:

some hard core hedging right here

“There’s definitely an argument that masks would assist in protecting hospitals, and is something that should certainly be on the table.”

maybe they should be on the face

if the anarcho-capitalists weren’t taking over the show globally P2 masks would be universally encouraged, and disposable medical gloves would be provided on entry to supermarkets etc, with suitable disposal facilities out in the carparks

Everyone, staff and visitors, still has to wear masks in the hospitlal i’m working in.

that’s good, but there are problems, big problems, big problems with long covid, a growing problem, a foreseeable problem

further of prophylaxis, surface contact has been neglected

shopping trolley handles for example, fucken terrible, you can’t rely on casual use of hand sanitizer

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Date: 18/05/2022 15:22:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1884690
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:

further of prophylaxis, surface contact has been neglected

shopping trolley handles for example, fucken terrible, you can’t rely on casual use of hand sanitizer

You can still get shopping trolley wipes at the hand-sanitising stations at supermarket doors her.

If they’ve run out, a squirt of hand sanitiser on a paper towel (also usually available) substitutes.

No towel? Rarely happens, but get a big blob of gel on your hand, and rub it over the handle. Then do your hands again.

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Date: 18/05/2022 15:24:08
From: sibeen
ID: 1884691
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

captain_spalding said:


transition said:

further of prophylaxis, surface contact has been neglected

shopping trolley handles for example, fucken terrible, you can’t rely on casual use of hand sanitizer

You can still get shopping trolley wipes at the hand-sanitising stations at supermarket doors her.

If they’ve run out, a squirt of hand sanitiser on a paper towel (also usually available) substitutes.

No towel? Rarely happens, but get a big blob of gel on your hand, and rub it over the handle. Then do your hands again.

The last is what I do at the store when I go. It’s not that difficult.

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Date: 19/05/2022 04:52:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884918
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

In non-foreign-interfered, non-Republican-copycat, Australian political news, the latest¡

We want to put that in the rear-vision mirror. We’re putting this pandemic behind us and all the intervention of government in our lives.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/may/18/pm-dismisses-need-for-more-measures-to-limit-covid-deaths-suggests-australians-dying-with-not-of-the-virus

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Date: 19/05/2022 05:03:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884919
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

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Date: 19/05/2022 05:17:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884921
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

remember when disinformation agents told everyone to avoid masks because there was a shortage

now tulips

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Date: 19/05/2022 05:35:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1884922
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:





it was the dogs

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Date: 20/05/2022 05:10:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1885225
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Straight To You From The Wuhan WestAfrican Institute of Virology

https://twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1526682813998800898

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Date: 20/05/2022 11:51:45
From: transition
ID: 1885315
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


Straight To You From The Wuhan WestAfrican Institute of Virology

https://twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1526682813998800898

uncontained, uncontrolled covid today, any sort of stupid tomorrow is possible, a liberating evolution of global health policies

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Date: 20/05/2022 17:59:23
From: buffy
ID: 1885416
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Sweden seems to have stopped daily reporting.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

They’ve been stuck in the middle 50s on the deaths per million table for months now.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

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Date: 21/05/2022 09:28:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1885745
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

y’al’r’ invited to compare the reassuring tone of this article to the reassurances we were given in early 2020 laugh out loud

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-20/monkeypox-spreads-through-europe/101086894

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Date: 21/05/2022 19:17:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1886134
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

ah fuck, we’d say we’re asking for a friend but since you all know we don’t have any of those

¿ does ivermectin work for monkeypox ?

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Date: 22/05/2022 00:24:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1886444
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

something you might wonder about

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Date: 22/05/2022 01:43:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1886474
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

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Date: 22/05/2022 01:50:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1886482
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:



The man is serious.

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Date: 22/05/2022 12:12:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1886663
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

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Date: 22/05/2022 12:16:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1886668
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

The rumour mill has it that “self limiting” is the new “mild”.

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Date: 22/05/2022 12:51:57
From: transition
ID: 1886685
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:



that’s quite good, though not funny really

welcome relaxed disease internationalization, covid easy, disease easy, get those planes back in the sky before there’s an outbreak of nationalism

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Date: 22/05/2022 15:49:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1886766
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:

something you might wonder about


the it’s not a race is on again

https://fortune.com/2022/05/19/monkeypox-vaccine-purchase-2022-us-government/

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Date: 22/05/2022 21:32:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1886948
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Not The ASMR You Hope It Is

but there you go, pandemic over

allegedly UK data

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Date: 23/05/2022 10:17:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1887099
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

also

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Date: 23/05/2022 10:20:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1887102
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/05/22/pandemic-most-certainly-not-over/

The COVID-19 pandemic is “most certainly not over,” the head of the World Health Organisation has warned, despite a decline in reported cases since the peak of the Omicron wave. He told governments that “we lower our guard at our peril”. The United Nations health agency’s director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told officials gathered in Geneva for the opening of the WHO’s annual meeting that “declining testing and sequencing means we are blinding ourselves to the evolution of the virus”.

While there has been progress, with 60 per cent of the world’s population vaccinated, “it’s not over anywhere until it’s over everywhere,” Tedros said. “Reported cases are increasing in almost 70 countries in all regions, and this in a world in which testing rates have plummeted,” he added.

While the world’s vaccine supply has improved, there is “insufficient political commitment to roll out vaccines” in some countries, gaps in “operational or financial capacity” in others, he said. “In all, we see vaccine hesitancy driven by misinformation and disinformation,” Tedros said. “The pandemic will not magically disappear but we can end it.”

Tedros is expected to be appointed for a second five-year term this week at the World Health Assembly, the annual meeting of the WHO’s member countries.

reappointed eh is this CHINA or something

that’s right any country that prioritises healthy living people over freedom to smear disease all over each other is a gross human rights violation

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Date: 23/05/2022 10:26:39
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1887108
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:



Do what exactly? Besides returning to a mask mandate I think that horse has bolted.

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Date: 23/05/2022 10:30:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1887111
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

Do what exactly? Besides returning to a mask mandate I think that horse has bolted.

what is it then, is it that

we mean even in the absence of mask mandates is there a way to for example claw back some of the healthcare system such that ambulances aren’t waiting 8 hours for patients to die before entering the emergency department

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Date: 23/05/2022 10:38:24
From: Michael V
ID: 1887113
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Wife of the bloke over the road has COVID. She caught it from her 102 year old grandmother. Both are doing OK.

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Date: 23/05/2022 10:57:36
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1887115
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

Do what exactly? Besides returning to a mask mandate I think that horse has bolted.

what is it then, is it that

  • the only thing that government can do is mandate or demandate things
  • government are unimaginative and cannot think of any way to reduce the risk of viruses spreading through shared indoor air
  • it’s economically preferable to kill andor maim 50% of the population so the other 50% get rich
  • we’re less imaginative than government and don’t immediately have other ridiculous options to include here

we mean even in the absence of mask mandates is there a way to for example claw back some of the healthcare system such that ambulances aren’t waiting 8 hours for patients to die before entering the emergency department

They’re all good suggestions. I thought you might be referring to new lockdowns or border closures.

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Date: 23/05/2022 11:13:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1887120
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Do what exactly? Besides returning to a mask mandate I think that horse has bolted.

what is it then, is it that

  • the only thing that government can do is mandate or demandate things
  • government are unimaginative and cannot think of any way to reduce the risk of viruses spreading through shared indoor air
  • it’s economically preferable to kill andor maim 50% of the population so the other 50% get rich
  • we’re less imaginative than government and don’t immediately have other ridiculous options to include here

we mean even in the absence of mask mandates is there a way to for example claw back some of the healthcare system such that ambulances aren’t waiting 8 hours for patients to die before entering the emergency department

They’re all good suggestions. I thought you might be referring to new lockdowns or border closures.

sure, if you like, but as you say,

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Date: 24/05/2022 10:01:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1887482
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

ah well guess it took 2 years for everyone else with brains to say it

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Date: 24/05/2022 10:20:38
From: sibeen
ID: 1887489
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


ah well guess it took 2 years for everyone else with brains to say it


Isn’t the Dirac Delta function an impulse step function to infinity?

:)

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Date: 24/05/2022 10:35:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1887497
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

well could be worse we suppose

https://media.nature.com/original/magazine-assets/d41586-022-01385-9/d41586-022-01385-9.pdf

.jp

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Date: 24/05/2022 10:36:19
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1887498
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

ah well guess it took 2 years for everyone else with brains to say it


Isn’t the Dirac Delta function an impulse step function to infinity?

:)

integral or differential

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Date: 24/05/2022 10:49:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1887505
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

actually meaningful read

https://twitter.com/danielgoyal/status/1528795905373216770

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Date: 24/05/2022 11:55:59
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1887517
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Next Level Fuck

The What

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Date: 24/05/2022 12:08:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1887529
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

While In Rome, Fiddle

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Date: 24/05/2022 12:16:28
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1887532
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


While In Rome, Fiddle


Dr. Bhattshittaya Bhattacharya woud approve.

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Date: 24/05/2022 13:36:38
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1887582
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

seems complicated, maybe

“What the mask mandate will be replaced with is a requirement for schools to continue to monitor case numbers. He added that mask mandates would be reinstated if a school recorded more than 10 cases of COVID in one classroom, or more than five cases across five different classrooms.

deliberately so, to confuse

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Date: 24/05/2022 13:51:47
From: transition
ID: 1887589
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


seems complicated, maybe

“What the mask mandate will be replaced with is a requirement for schools to continue to monitor case numbers. He added that mask mandates would be reinstated if a school recorded more than 10 cases of COVID in one classroom, or more than five cases across five different classrooms.

deliberately so, to confuse

measure and monitoring stuff into existence, very effective at normalization, probably a derr descended of management theory or something like that, anyway consider the good work in the ideological apparatus getting children to do it, spread a disease and make it normal

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Date: 24/05/2022 14:12:58
From: transition
ID: 1887596
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


Next Level Fuck

The What

probably a view that doesn’t require any thinking, it’s an expanding market

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Date: 24/05/2022 17:04:39
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1887674
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


well could be worse we suppose

https://media.nature.com/original/magazine-assets/d41586-022-01385-9/d41586-022-01385-9.pdf

.jp

Latest for Australian flu-like symptoms. At Mrs m’s stage production that she’s playing for, 19 people have come down with covid.

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Date: 24/05/2022 17:07:25
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1887677
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

mollwollfumble said:


SCIENCE said:

well could be worse we suppose

https://media.nature.com/original/magazine-assets/d41586-022-01385-9/d41586-022-01385-9.pdf

.jp

Latest for Australian flu-like symptoms. At Mrs m’s stage production that she’s playing for, 19 people have come down with covid.


Yes it looks like ths State Premiers have completely dropped the ball and lit it get totally out of control.

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Date: 24/05/2022 17:19:47
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1887683
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Peak Warming Man said:


mollwollfumble said:

SCIENCE said:

well could be worse we suppose

https://media.nature.com/original/magazine-assets/d41586-022-01385-9/d41586-022-01385-9.pdf

.jp

Latest for Australian flu-like symptoms. At Mrs m’s stage production that she’s playing for, 19 people have come down with covid.


Yes it looks like ths State Premiers have completely dropped the ball and lit it get totally out of control.

Top countries for Covid deaths per population.

Excluding small countries, New Zealand is third worst in the world after Finland and Portugal. Australia well into the top ten.

World map. Covid cases per population.

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Date: 24/05/2022 17:20:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1887684
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Peak Warming Man said:

mollwollfumble said:

SCIENCE said:

well could be worse we suppose

https://media.nature.com/original/magazine-assets/d41586-022-01385-9/d41586-022-01385-9.pdf

.jp

Latest for Australian flu-like symptoms. At Mrs m’s stage production that she’s playing for, 19 people have come down with covid.


Yes it looks like ths State Premiers have completely dropped the ball and lit it get totally out of control.

remember when people said that about the NSW arseholes and all the fascists got upset

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Date: 25/05/2022 00:24:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1887879
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

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Date: 25/05/2022 05:30:23
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1887902
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Cases are high and winter is coming. We need to stop ignoring COVID
Published: May 23, 2022 2.34pm AEST

Nicholas Talley receives funding from the NHMRC and the Department of Defence/Breakthrough Human Performance Research Call. He is affiliated with OzSage, the Australian Medical Council (AMC) (Council Member) and the NHMRC Principal Committee (Research Committee).

In a poll conducted by the Guardian in August of 2021 about the number of deaths Australians would be willing to accept as restrictions eased, only 3% of respondents felt that 5,000 or more COVID-related deaths per year would be acceptable.

Sadly we have surpassed that milestone in the first four months of this year alone.

Each day, an average of 45,000 Australians are reporting cases of COVID, a number that is rising and likely a substantial underestimate.

Yet where are the sensible public health measures to stem the tide of illness and death?

People are dying of COVID
Sadly we are now leading the world in COVID cases per capita.

But did these people die of or with COVID? This question is raised often by those who wish to diminish the impact of the pandemic, including former prime minister Scott Morrison.

The evidence, however, is clear – of all people who died “of” or “with” COVID during the pandemic in Australia, 90% have died of COVID.

Even if we concern ourselves only with excess death rates (that is, deaths exceeding what would usually be expected) COVID is a major killer. The Australian Bureau of Statistics evaluated deaths in January 2022, around the time of the peak in COVID cases during the first Omicron wave in Australia. Comparing the observed mortality rate to the usual pre-COVID rate, they found 22% more deaths in that month than expected.

COVID is currently on track to be one of the leading causes of death in Australia this year.

Long COVID will affect many Australians infected, perhaps up to 30%. And the other long-term effects of COVID are not yet known.

The number of deaths and long COVID are only part of the story. The health care system right now is in crisis throughout the country with people dying waiting for ambulances, record levels of ambulance ramping (where patients wait with paramedics for medical attention), prolonged emergency stays for patients in overcrowded departments, and hospital staff shortages.

Add to that we are now facing our first flu season in two years, with weekly numbers now exceeding the average for the past five years.

Coupled with a lower-than-average uptake of the flu vaccine this year, the flu season is shaping up to potentially be a severe one – potentially resulting in up to 30,000 people requiring admission to hospital.

With winter coming, and more people gathering indoors as the weather turns cold, COVID cases may also rise in tandem with influenza.

We can reduce cases
This looming disaster can be averted: we can reduce transmission and “flatten the curve” with simple actions.

We have seen the impact the relaxation of public health restrictions and protections like mask-wearing mandates have made in terms of driving transmission.

In Western Australia, relaxation of public health measures including mask wearing and household contact isolation occurred on April 29. Within days of these changes, case numbers reached record highs – there are now 100 more people hospitalised with COVID every day than before these changes went into effect.

It would stand to reason reinstating these two measures would have the opposite effect – fewer cases, fewer people in hospital, and fewer people dying of COVID.

The Australian Medical Association has called for an increase in voluntary use of masks, yet its pleas are being ignored. It seems without mandates most people are unwilling to wear masks, so reinstating these mandates for indoor gatherings should be considered.

Boosters and treatments are vital
We also need to use the tools we have to prevent serious disease in people who contract COVID.

Although vaccinations have maintained effectiveness for serious illness, hospitalisation, and death, our protection has waned over time and has also been reduced due to Omicron’s increased immune-evasion.

The impact of a booster dose is substantial, with high levels of protection against severe outcomes demonstrated with a third dose. Yet only 70% of the population of Australia has received a booster and numbers are not increasing.

For those who have been boosted, the fourth dose prevents severe disease in those most at-risk, but to date, most eligible people are yet to receive it.

If delivered early to those most at risk of severe disease, antiviral medications can reduce the risk of hospitalisation. But to access these medications, patients must have access to testing and a knowledgeable care provider all within five days of the onset of symptoms. The GP community is trying, but inequitable distribution of these treatments will occur without more education and support for the clinicians at the coalface.

A clearly articulated vision of what is at stake and what actions we need to take to avert disaster is the leadership we need right now.

A few simple public health measures such as mask mandates and reinstating isolation for household contacts of positive cases could make a major difference saving lives. And ensuring provision of boosters and early antiviral therapy for those at-risk despite vaccination will also save lives.

Pretending the pandemic is in the rear-vision mirror will help no one.

Nancy Baxter
Professor and Head of Melbourne School of Population & Global Health, The University of Melbourne

Nicholas Talley
Distinguished Laureate Professor of Medicine University of Newcastle, University of Newcastle

https://theconversation.com/cases-are-high-and-winter-is-coming-we-need-to-stop-ignoring-covid-183218?

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Date: 25/05/2022 08:00:59
From: Michael V
ID: 1887911
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Witty Rejoinder said:


Cases are high and winter is coming. We need to stop ignoring COVID
Published: May 23, 2022 2.34pm AEST

Nicholas Talley receives funding from the NHMRC and the Department of Defence/Breakthrough Human Performance Research Call. He is affiliated with OzSage, the Australian Medical Council (AMC) (Council Member) and the NHMRC Principal Committee (Research Committee).

In a poll conducted by the Guardian in August of 2021 about the number of deaths Australians would be willing to accept as restrictions eased, only 3% of respondents felt that 5,000 or more COVID-related deaths per year would be acceptable.

Sadly we have surpassed that milestone in the first four months of this year alone.

Each day, an average of 45,000 Australians are reporting cases of COVID, a number that is rising and likely a substantial underestimate.

Yet where are the sensible public health measures to stem the tide of illness and death?

People are dying of COVID
Sadly we are now leading the world in COVID cases per capita.

But did these people die of or with COVID? This question is raised often by those who wish to diminish the impact of the pandemic, including former prime minister Scott Morrison.

The evidence, however, is clear – of all people who died “of” or “with” COVID during the pandemic in Australia, 90% have died of COVID.

Even if we concern ourselves only with excess death rates (that is, deaths exceeding what would usually be expected) COVID is a major killer. The Australian Bureau of Statistics evaluated deaths in January 2022, around the time of the peak in COVID cases during the first Omicron wave in Australia. Comparing the observed mortality rate to the usual pre-COVID rate, they found 22% more deaths in that month than expected.

COVID is currently on track to be one of the leading causes of death in Australia this year.

Long COVID will affect many Australians infected, perhaps up to 30%. And the other long-term effects of COVID are not yet known.

The number of deaths and long COVID are only part of the story. The health care system right now is in crisis throughout the country with people dying waiting for ambulances, record levels of ambulance ramping (where patients wait with paramedics for medical attention), prolonged emergency stays for patients in overcrowded departments, and hospital staff shortages.

Add to that we are now facing our first flu season in two years, with weekly numbers now exceeding the average for the past five years.

Coupled with a lower-than-average uptake of the flu vaccine this year, the flu season is shaping up to potentially be a severe one – potentially resulting in up to 30,000 people requiring admission to hospital.

With winter coming, and more people gathering indoors as the weather turns cold, COVID cases may also rise in tandem with influenza.

We can reduce cases
This looming disaster can be averted: we can reduce transmission and “flatten the curve” with simple actions.

We have seen the impact the relaxation of public health restrictions and protections like mask-wearing mandates have made in terms of driving transmission.

In Western Australia, relaxation of public health measures including mask wearing and household contact isolation occurred on April 29. Within days of these changes, case numbers reached record highs – there are now 100 more people hospitalised with COVID every day than before these changes went into effect.

It would stand to reason reinstating these two measures would have the opposite effect – fewer cases, fewer people in hospital, and fewer people dying of COVID.

The Australian Medical Association has called for an increase in voluntary use of masks, yet its pleas are being ignored. It seems without mandates most people are unwilling to wear masks, so reinstating these mandates for indoor gatherings should be considered.

Boosters and treatments are vital
We also need to use the tools we have to prevent serious disease in people who contract COVID.

Although vaccinations have maintained effectiveness for serious illness, hospitalisation, and death, our protection has waned over time and has also been reduced due to Omicron’s increased immune-evasion.

The impact of a booster dose is substantial, with high levels of protection against severe outcomes demonstrated with a third dose. Yet only 70% of the population of Australia has received a booster and numbers are not increasing.

For those who have been boosted, the fourth dose prevents severe disease in those most at-risk, but to date, most eligible people are yet to receive it.

If delivered early to those most at risk of severe disease, antiviral medications can reduce the risk of hospitalisation. But to access these medications, patients must have access to testing and a knowledgeable care provider all within five days of the onset of symptoms. The GP community is trying, but inequitable distribution of these treatments will occur without more education and support for the clinicians at the coalface.

A clearly articulated vision of what is at stake and what actions we need to take to avert disaster is the leadership we need right now.

A few simple public health measures such as mask mandates and reinstating isolation for household contacts of positive cases could make a major difference saving lives. And ensuring provision of boosters and early antiviral therapy for those at-risk despite vaccination will also save lives.

Pretending the pandemic is in the rear-vision mirror will help no one.

Nancy Baxter
Professor and Head of Melbourne School of Population & Global Health, The University of Melbourne

Nicholas Talley
Distinguished Laureate Professor of Medicine University of Newcastle, University of Newcastle

https://theconversation.com/cases-are-high-and-winter-is-coming-we-need-to-stop-ignoring-covid-183218?

Very fair call.

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Date: 25/05/2022 08:13:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1887913
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

He is affiliated with OzSage, the Australian Medical Council (AMC) (Council Member) and the NHMRC Principal Committee (Research Committee).

In a poll conducted by the Guardian in August of 2021 about the number of deaths Australians would be willing to accept as restrictions eased, only 3% of respondents felt that 5,000 or more COVID-related deaths per year would be acceptable.

It seems without mandates most people are unwilling to wear masks, so reinstating these mandates for indoor gatherings should be considered.

The GP community is trying, but inequitable distribution of these treatments will occur without more education and support for the clinicians at the coalface.

A few simple public health measures such as mask mandates and reinstating isolation for household contacts of positive cases could make a major difference saving lives. And ensuring provision of boosters and early antiviral therapy for those at-risk despite vaccination will also save lives.

Melbourne School of Population & Global Health, The University of Melbourne

https://theconversation.com/cases-are-high-and-winter-is-coming-we-need-to-stop-ignoring-covid-183218?

Very fair call.

communists

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Date: 25/05/2022 08:20:53
From: Michael V
ID: 1887915
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

He is affiliated with OzSage, the Australian Medical Council (AMC) (Council Member) and the NHMRC Principal Committee (Research Committee).

In a poll conducted by the Guardian in August of 2021 about the number of deaths Australians would be willing to accept as restrictions eased, only 3% of respondents felt that 5,000 or more COVID-related deaths per year would be acceptable.

It seems without mandates most people are unwilling to wear masks, so reinstating these mandates for indoor gatherings should be considered.

The GP community is trying, but inequitable distribution of these treatments will occur without more education and support for the clinicians at the coalface.

A few simple public health measures such as mask mandates and reinstating isolation for household contacts of positive cases could make a major difference saving lives. And ensuring provision of boosters and early antiviral therapy for those at-risk despite vaccination will also save lives.

Melbourne School of Population & Global Health, The University of Melbourne

https://theconversation.com/cases-are-high-and-winter-is-coming-we-need-to-stop-ignoring-covid-183218?

Very fair call.

communists

What a pity.

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Date: 25/05/2022 10:42:00
From: transition
ID: 1887965
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Witty Rejoinder said:


Cases are high and winter is coming. We need to stop ignoring COVID
Published: May 23, 2022 2.34pm AEST

Nicholas Talley receives funding from the NHMRC and the Department of Defence/Breakthrough Human Performance Research Call. He is affiliated with OzSage, the Australian Medical Council (AMC) (Council Member) and the NHMRC Principal Committee (Research Committee).

In a poll conducted by the Guardian in August of 2021 about the number of deaths Australians would be willing to accept as restrictions eased, only 3% of respondents felt that 5,000 or more COVID-related deaths per year would be acceptable.

Sadly we have surpassed that milestone in the first four months of this year alone.
../cut by me master transition/..

https://theconversation.com/cases-are-high-and-winter-is-coming-we-need-to-stop-ignoring-covid-183218?

>Although vaccinations have maintained effectiveness for serious illness, hospitalisation, and death, our protection has waned over time and has also been reduced due to Omicron’s increased immune-evasion.

let me take a liberty and rewrite that more as I interpret it

vaccines are not impressively effective against the disease, and less effective as it has evolved, this was foreseeable, the evolving immune evasion can be seen to be caused by the number of infections tolerated, which is a monstrous number, largely made possible by policies that incline a very high tolerance perhaps even unlimited infection numbers

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Date: 25/05/2022 20:32:14
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1888208
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

¿ you lot all warmed up for your daily dose of good news you always wanted to hear ?

let’s begin

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7121e1.htm?s_cid=mm7121e1_w

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Date: 25/05/2022 20:40:17
From: transition
ID: 1888210
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


¿ you lot all warmed up for your daily dose of good news you always wanted to hear ?

let’s begin

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7121e1.htm?s_cid=mm7121e1_w

read that properly later on, hope you’re not suggesting there’s something unhealthy about covid, something more than obvious immediate deaths related, your failing positivity finding expression in alarmism

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Date: 25/05/2022 23:49:19
From: transition
ID: 1888250
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


¿ you lot all warmed up for your daily dose of good news you always wanted to hear ?

let’s begin

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7121e1.htm?s_cid=mm7121e1_w

read that properly, thankyou, master science

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Date: 26/05/2022 16:40:04
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1888462
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

oho what’s this ahahaha let’s go time to Let It Rip® yeah woohoo

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-26/meningococcal-three-cases-detected-cairns-school/101101576

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Date: 27/05/2022 19:29:48
From: dv
ID: 1888922
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Not exactly panic stations yet but the Australian death rate does continue to climb, with over 1000 deaths just in the last month.

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Date: 27/05/2022 19:35:29
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1888925
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

dv said:


Not exactly panic stations yet but the Australian death rate does continue to climb, with over 1000 deaths just in the last month.

FWIW here in Queensland, from the start of the pandemic until early January this year we had 7 deaths.
As of today it’s 1034. And I still get the occasional funny look when I (rarely) go out double-masked.

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Date: 27/05/2022 19:49:24
From: transition
ID: 1888943
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Spiny Norman said:


dv said:

Not exactly panic stations yet but the Australian death rate does continue to climb, with over 1000 deaths just in the last month.

FWIW here in Queensland, from the start of the pandemic until early January this year we had 7 deaths.
As of today it’s 1034. And I still get the occasional funny look when I (rarely) go out double-masked.

lady brings up fairly regularly recently, last three weeks or more, that she feels like the odd one, the contagious one, when doing shopping or whatever, as the number of people wearing masks declines, but for the moment we’re staying with it, i’m in the tenth week or so recovering from plague, not 100% yet, nearly though, haven’t enjoyed it much

whatever anyway, subject becoming enured of accepting casualties, WW3 could be just around the corner

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Date: 27/05/2022 21:38:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1889012
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:

whatever anyway, subject becoming enured of accepting casualties, WW3 could be just around the corner

maybe but we have good news for you too

what do you do with a bunch of disaffected, impoverished, human bodies who have nothing left to lose by running to the front lines instead of staying at home hoping

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Date: 27/05/2022 21:39:51
From: dv
ID: 1889014
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


transition said:

whatever anyway, subject becoming enured of accepting casualties, WW3 could be just around the corner

maybe but we have good news for you too

what do you do with a bunch of disaffected, impoverished, human bodies who have nothing left to lose by running to the front lines instead of staying at home hoping


They should get one of these new fancy Labour governments.

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Date: 27/05/2022 22:29:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1889032
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

oh c’m‘on everyone knows it was the dogs


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Date: 28/05/2022 00:11:34
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1889063
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

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Date: 29/05/2022 05:19:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1889617
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Most Effective Way To End The Pandemic

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Date: 29/05/2022 05:33:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1889618
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Don’t Worry, If You Save These Lives From COVID-19 They Will Be “Lost” Anyway

An Australian man believed to be assisting in the ongoing war effort against Russian forces has been killed in Ukraine.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-28/australian-dies-in-ukraine-michael-oneill/101107898

At least 15 people have died in torrential rains across southern China, according to state media reports.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-28/china-rains-torrential-15-dead-3-missing-fujian/101107966

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Date: 29/05/2022 05:43:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1889619
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Fake Oversaturated Light Teals Demand Increase In Plastic PPE Pollution

https://www.greenpeace.org/international/story/44629/where-did-5500-tonnes-of-discarded-face-masks-end-up/

Greens health spokesperson, Dr Tim Read, today urged the state government to do more to reduce the rate of community transmission of COVID and influenza by launching a campaign to create a culture of wearing masks indoors and paying attention to air quality.

Dr Read called on the government to seek and publicise advice on what more should be done to reduce the spread of respiratory viruses and to fund a program encouraging the community to voluntarily adopt effective low impact measures, such as: A campaign promoting face masks indoors during winter

https://greens.org.au/vic/news/greens-call-mask-campaign-government-sleepwalks-towards-health-crisis

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Date: 29/05/2022 05:57:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1889620
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.16.491922v3

possibility that infection by SARS-CoV-2 ORF1abVVVNASN variant might elicit an autoimmune T cell response via epitope mimicry and is associated with the outbreak of unknown hepatitis

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Date: 30/05/2022 13:19:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1890116
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Laugh Out Loud

but probably a repost

Now Do Reinfections

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8201243/

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Date: 30/05/2022 14:12:20
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1890126
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

And today we move to position #16 on the Worldometer list.
A year ago we were down around #126. :(

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Date: 30/05/2022 14:16:13
From: buffy
ID: 1890127
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Spiny Norman said:


And today we move to position #16 on the Worldometer list.
A year ago we were down around #126. :(

Which list? There are heaps and heaps of lists on Worldometer for various COVID stats.

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Date: 30/05/2022 14:17:20
From: dv
ID: 1890128
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Spiny Norman said:


And today we move to position #16 on the Worldometer list.
A year ago we were down around #126. :(

I’m not too worried about case numbers as we knew we would move towards endemism once we got highly vaccinated.

In deaths per capita we are at #144

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Date: 30/05/2022 14:29:55
From: buffy
ID: 1890131
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

dv said:


Spiny Norman said:

And today we move to position #16 on the Worldometer list.
A year ago we were down around #126. :(

I’m not too worried about case numbers as we knew we would move towards endemism once we got highly vaccinated.

In deaths per capita we are at #144

And remember case numbers are rubbery, and have been throughout the time of this pandemic. In the early stages (and actually, until quite recently) in Australia testing was by PCR and only if you had symptoms. This bug is apparently quite good at being asymptomatic, so we have pretty definitely had many more cases than have been “proven” on PCR or RAT. Then there is the dodginess of RATs. They are reasonably good if you have symptoms, but if you are only testing because you have to for work, you may come up positive when you are not. Admittedly it’s not a huge percentage, but it’s there. And I understand we are now just accepting into the stats any RAT result phoned in by the person who did it. So deaths per capita, because death is pretty solidly ascertainable, is the most reliable figure we have.

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Date: 30/05/2022 14:32:19
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1890132
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

buffy said:


Spiny Norman said:

And today we move to position #16 on the Worldometer list.
A year ago we were down around #126. :(

Which list? There are heaps and heaps of lists on Worldometer for various COVID stats.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table

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Date: 30/05/2022 14:36:09
From: transition
ID: 1890133
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Spiny Norman said:


buffy said:

Spiny Norman said:

And today we move to position #16 on the Worldometer list.
A year ago we were down around #126. :(

Which list? There are heaps and heaps of lists on Worldometer for various COVID stats.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table

the slow massacre, in the name of liberty

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Date: 30/05/2022 14:37:26
From: buffy
ID: 1890134
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Spiny Norman said:


buffy said:

Spiny Norman said:

And today we move to position #16 on the Worldometer list.
A year ago we were down around #126. :(

Which list? There are heaps and heaps of lists on Worldometer for various COVID stats.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table

Also, we are only a little way into it spreading here because we held it off, I wonder if other countries are still testing at the same level as we are. Much of Europe has moved on now, I think. I may be wrong on that.

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Date: 30/05/2022 14:41:23
From: buffy
ID: 1890135
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

And if you want to jump us up the league table, use the active cases column. We are number 12 on that one if you put it into greatest to least order.

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Date: 30/05/2022 14:51:22
From: transition
ID: 1890137
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

transition said:


Spiny Norman said:

buffy said:

Which list? There are heaps and heaps of lists on Worldometer for various COVID stats.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table

the slow massacre, in the name of liberty

if covid were sort of equated with firearm prevalence, granted an analogy of limited usefulness maybe, but if it were for a moment, the comparison of course doesn’t lend to normalizing endemic covid (cough inappropriately applied term), anyway what a fortunate thing there are worse things happening in the world, like real massacres involving guns

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Date: 30/05/2022 14:59:14
From: buffy
ID: 1890141
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

This is interesting. I thought I’d have a look at the Australian Provisional Mortality Statistics for this year. Two months are now out. But they have changed the baseline because 2020 had less than expected deaths. So it’s not really the same as has been previously reported for years and years. We could just be catching up on the lower numbers in 2020.

>>Throughout this report, counts of deaths are compared to an average number of deaths for previous years. In this report, data for 2021 is compared to an average number of deaths recorded over the 5 years from 2015-2019 as was the case in previous publications. Data for 2022 is compared to a baseline comprising the years 2017-2019 and 2021. 2020 is not included in the baseline for 2022 data because it included periods where numbers of deaths were significantly lower than expected. Counts of deaths for 2015-2021 are included in the baseline datacubes of the data downloads section of this report. <<

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/jan-feb-2022#articles

And here is the article particular to COVID19.

https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/measuring-australias-excess-mortality-during-covid-19-pandemic-doctor-certified-deaths

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Date: 30/05/2022 15:06:23
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1890143
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Spiny Norman said:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table

Actually, that’s quite good. And I haven’t said that in a long time.

A pity that Australia and New Zealand are still seventh and fourth worst in the world for deaths among countries with > 1,000,000 people.

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Date: 30/05/2022 15:14:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1890145
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

mollwollfumble said:

Spiny Norman said:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table

Actually, that’s quite good. And I haven’t said that in a long time.

A pity that Australia and New Zealand are still seventh and fourth worst in the world for deaths among countries with > 1,000,000 people.


so vaccination wasn’t necessary or even important after all

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Date: 30/05/2022 15:32:08
From: Cymek
ID: 1890150
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:

mollwollfumble said:

Spiny Norman said:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table

Actually, that’s quite good. And I haven’t said that in a long time.

A pity that Australia and New Zealand are still seventh and fourth worst in the world for deaths among countries with > 1,000,000 people.


so vaccination wasn’t necessary or even important after all

Minimise the symptoms possibly

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Date: 30/05/2022 15:44:49
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1890157
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:

mollwollfumble said:

Spiny Norman said:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table

Actually, that’s quite good. And I haven’t said that in a long time.

A pity that Australia and New Zealand are still seventh and fourth worst in the world for deaths among countries with > 1,000,000 people.


so vaccination wasn’t necessary or even important after all

Lousy vaccines. Not even one of the available vaccines was a killed virus vaccine. Or a weakened live virus vaccine.
I think I know why. To stop the vaccine showing up as a false positive on antigen testing.
They considered it was OK to be killed by the virus so long as there were no false positives on the tests.

All five of the last seasons flu vaccines were killed virus vaccines. But there are no flu tests, so they didn’t have to worry about false positives on flu tests.

I really wonder what the curves would have looked like if there were no vaccines.

Direct comparison of Covid deaths (not scaled by population) for Australia, NZ, and China.

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Date: 30/05/2022 15:55:21
From: Cymek
ID: 1890159
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

I wonder how useful the RAT tests are
I felt quite unwell for three days before the RAT test returned a positive.

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Date: 30/05/2022 16:06:32
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1890164
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Cymek said:

I wonder how useful the RAT tests are

politically or medically

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Date: 30/05/2022 16:18:45
From: Cymek
ID: 1890167
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

I wonder how useful the RAT tests are

politically or medically

Medically

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Date: 30/05/2022 16:35:37
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1890172
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

mollwollfumble said:


SCIENCE said:

mollwollfumble said:

Actually, that’s quite good. And I haven’t said that in a long time.

A pity that Australia and New Zealand are still seventh and fourth worst in the world for deaths among countries with > 1,000,000 people.


so vaccination wasn’t necessary or even important after all

Lousy vaccines. Not even one of the available vaccines was a killed virus vaccine. Or a weakened live virus vaccine.

So?

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Date: 30/05/2022 16:57:19
From: dv
ID: 1890177
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

mollwollfumble said:

A pity that Australia and New Zealand are still seventh and fourth worst in the world for deaths among countries with > 1,000,000 people.

Not sure why you think the million person cut off is so crucial but anyway…
In deaths per capita, Australia is #96, and NZ at #104, among nations with more than a million people, of which there are 158.

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Date: 30/05/2022 17:08:55
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1890178
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

dv said:


mollwollfumble said:

A pity that Australia and New Zealand are still seventh and fourth worst in the world for deaths among countries with > 1,000,000 people.

Not sure why you think the million person cut off is so crucial but anyway…
In deaths per capita, Australia is #96, and NZ at #104, among nations with more than a million people, of which there are 158.

‘…deaths per capita…’?

per capita
pər kăp′ĭ-tə
adverb & adjective

Per unit of population; per person.Equally to each individual.

‘Per capita’ almost everyone gets just one death each. There’s a few statistical anomalies who get revived, but it’s generally 1 per head.

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Date: 30/05/2022 17:15:41
From: Boris
ID: 1890179
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

captain_spalding said:

There’s a few statistical anomalies who get revived,

that sibeen fucking up a perfect score.

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Date: 30/05/2022 17:36:27
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1890184
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

dv said:


mollwollfumble said:

A pity that Australia and New Zealand are still seventh and fourth worst in the world for deaths among countries with > 1,000,000 people.

Not sure why you think the million person cut off is so crucial but anyway…
In deaths per capita, Australia is #96, and NZ at #104, among nations with more than a million people, of which there are 158.

I presume moll was talking about new deaths, rather than totals.

Also when comparing deaths/capita I think it’s quite reasonable to exclude very small countries where most of the population lives within a small area.

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Date: 30/05/2022 18:27:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1890213
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

I wonder how useful the RAT tests are

politically or medically

Medically

20%

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Date: 30/05/2022 18:28:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1890215
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

easy, this is simply because they cooked the books by removing cancer

COVID-19, The Cure For Cancer

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Date: 30/05/2022 19:03:15
From: buffy
ID: 1890228
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


easy, this is simply because they cooked the books by removing cancer

COVID-19, The Cure For Cancer

Which country/city state is that? Where is the graph from?

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Date: 30/05/2022 19:30:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1890231
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

au

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Date: 31/05/2022 10:29:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1890392
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:

au

elsewhere

oh well at least it looks seasonal

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Date: 31/05/2022 10:31:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1890395
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:

so being female, married, unmarried, childless, parasiteinfested, divorved, dead, zombie, as long as it’s Labor there are any number of reasons that shade should be thrown on an elected representative hey

actually we take that back we’ll throw the shade right now

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Date: 31/05/2022 18:02:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1890552
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

LOL

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-airlines-cutting-training-requirements-to-get-more-pilots-shortage-2022-5

US airlines are so desperate for pilots they are dropping some requirements and considering cutting training hours to get more pilots flying sooner

Regional carrier Republic Airways, which operates on behalf of Delta, American, and United, is trying to reduce its pilot training requirements. In April, the airline asked the Federal Aviation Administration for permission to hire pilots out of its training academy when they reach 750 flight hours instead of the 1,500 hours currently required for most pilots.

¡ well hey at least even if the risk of dying in an aeroplane crash goes up 1000 times, then flying will still be 10 times safer than snorting up a nice dose of SARS-CoV-2 virions !

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Date: 2/06/2022 16:16:41
From: Boris
ID: 1891326
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/wa/2022/06/01/wa-eases-covid-19-virus-vaccine-rules/

Link

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Date: 2/06/2022 17:28:35
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1891352
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Virtue Signalling Prevents Ascent To Heaven

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Date: 2/06/2022 17:30:27
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1891356
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Endgame

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Date: 2/06/2022 17:34:44
From: transition
ID: 1891359
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

SCIENCE said:


Endgame


in french or whatever, do I need learn french

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Date: 9/06/2022 11:17:18
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1894007
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Is this the most recent Covid thread?

Top countries for Covid deaths. Australian Covid is not getting significantly better in terms of number of deaths..
Taiwan and Portugal are both showing rapidly rising death rates. But are peaking in terms of number of new cases.
A caveat for this graph. Ireland and Finland have higher death rates but they’re not reporting reliably enough to plot. These are other countries above the USA. Many Caribbean Island nations are reporting Covid deaths and because of the low population these show up as spikes on a death per population scale.

Each week I feel like printing the following map and posting it at the local shopping centre.

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Date: 9/06/2022 14:12:39
From: dv
ID: 1894079
Subject: re: COVID-19 | 2022-05-03..2022-05-31

Battle of the DW companions

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