Date: 15/05/2022 17:57:34
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1883651
Subject: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

I imagine, some people will love this and some people will hate this.

NSW site for Australia’s longest tunnel
Jack Gramenz – 6h ago

Australia’s longest road tunnel is set for the Blue Mountains as part of upgrades to better connect western NSW to the state’s coastal capital.

A digital image of the 11-kilometre Blue Mountains tunnel, which would be the longest in Australia.

The planned 11-kilometre tunnel will stretch from Blackheath to Little Hartley, bypassing Mount Victoria.

it’s part of upgrades to the Great Western Highway that NSW Regional Roads Minister Sam Farraway says will save drivers 30 minutes on a peak-period trip between Lithgow and Katoomba, a drive that currently takes about 45 minutes.

“It’s record breaking, it’s history making and will revolutionise travel from the east to the west,” Mr Farraway said on Sunday.

The toll-free tunnel is now the preferred option for connecting the two villages following feasibility investigations that began in May last year, Regional NSW Minister and Deputy Premier Paul Toole said.

“This is a complex, ambitious plan but we’re on track for shovels to hit the ground on the east and west stages of the upgrade early next year,” he said.

Proposal for distance-based tolls in NSW

The proposal includes dual carriageways in separate twin tunnels.

Other proposed upgrades including widening the highway between Katoomba and Blackheath, new bridges, and active transport links.

The tunnel will provide a safer path through the Blue Mountains, Mr Farraway says, keeping traffic moving when crashes and natural disasters can cause the current roads to close.

He says the upgrades and improved travel times will also boost economic development and population growth west of the mountains.

The project could provide up to 3900 full-time equivalent jobs during the five-year construction phase.

Australia’s longest road tunnel is currently the M8 tunnel, part of Sydney’s WestConnex project.

Like WestConnex, the Great Western Highway upgrade is being jointly funded by the NSW and Commonwealth governments to the tune of $4.5 billion.

Transport for NSW is running consultation with locals and traditional custodians including the Wiradjuri, Dharug and Gundungurra communities through face-to-face and online sessions in the coming weeks.

A formal consultation period will follow later in the year following the exhibition of the tunnel’s environmental impact assessment.

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Date: 15/05/2022 18:51:30
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1883671
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

monkey skipper said:

toll-free

communist

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Date: 15/05/2022 19:05:09
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1883676
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

TATE says:

Name Location Length Year Tubes Road
Lærdal Norway (Lærdal – Aurland) 24.51 km (15.2 mi) 2000 1 E16
Yamate Tunnel Japan (Tokyo) 18.20 km (11.3 mi) 2015 2 C2, Shuto Expressway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest_road_tunnels

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Date: 15/05/2022 19:11:47
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1883677
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

The Rev Dodgson said:


TATE says:

Name Location Length Year Tubes Road
Lærdal Norway (Lærdal – Aurland) 24.51 km (15.2 mi) 2000 1 E16
Yamate Tunnel Japan (Tokyo) 18.20 km (11.3 mi) 2015 2 C2, Shuto Expressway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest_road_tunnels

but reading what the article actually says, it’s claimed to be the longest in Australia, not the World, so forget all that.

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Date: 15/05/2022 19:18:11
From: sibeen
ID: 1883681
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

I don’t know why they are paying so much for it. The Boring Company would knock this over in a fortnight for about the cost of a 6 pack and a cooked chook.

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Date: 15/05/2022 19:19:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1883682
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

sibeen said:


I don’t know why they are paying so much for it. The Boring Company would knock this over in a fortnight for about the cost of a 6 pack and a cooked chook.

Make that two six packs and I’ll believe you.

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Date: 15/05/2022 19:26:20
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1883683
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

Will this make Lithgow more desirable?

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Date: 15/05/2022 19:33:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 1883684
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

sarahs mum said:


Will this make Lithgow more desirable?

Than Byron Bay? Not sure.

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Date: 15/05/2022 19:48:01
From: Woodie
ID: 1883694
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

How long you say? Starting when? Finishing when? At that cost? Toll free?

We’re being had a lend of. Never happen. You read it here first, folks.

Feasibility began….. but not finished?

The EIS will take 10 years at best.

Move on. Nothing to see here.

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Date: 15/05/2022 19:56:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 1883696
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

Woodie said:


How long you say? Starting when? Finishing when? At that cost? Toll free?

We’re being had a lend of. Never happen. You read it here first, folks.

Feasibility began….. but not finished?

The EIS will take 10 years at best.

Move on. Nothing to see here.

How long have they been building an airport at Badgery’s creek? or for that matter, fixing the Pacific Highway.

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Date: 15/05/2022 20:06:17
From: dv
ID: 1883698
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

sibeen said:


I don’t know why they are paying so much for it. The Boring Company would knock this over in a fortnight for about the cost of a 6 pack and a cooked chook.

Had no idea you were such a Musk fanboi.

This is good and all but … are they going to include a rail line?

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Date: 15/05/2022 20:29:18
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1883725
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

roughbarked said:

airport at Badgery’s creek

LOL

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Date: 15/05/2022 20:56:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1883752
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

dv said:


sibeen said:

I don’t know why they are paying so much for it. The Boring Company would knock this over in a fortnight for about the cost of a 6 pack and a cooked chook.

Had no idea you were such a Musk fanboi.

This is good and all but … are they going to include a rail line?

I don’t know, but I thought maybe there was a bit of sarcasm there.

Not like sibeen, I know.

I’m pretty sure this money could be spent better elsewhere.

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Date: 15/05/2022 21:01:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1883755
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

sibeen said:

I don’t know why they are paying so much for it. The Boring Company would knock this over in a fortnight for about the cost of a 6 pack and a cooked chook.

Had no idea you were such a Musk fanboi.

This is good and all but … are they going to include a rail line?

I don’t know, but I thought maybe there was a bit of sarcasm there.

Not like sibeen, I know.

I’m pretty sure this money could be spent better elsewhere.

By the time they would finish it, we’ll probably be using flying solar powered jetson type cars?

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Date: 15/05/2022 21:43:20
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1883778
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

sarahs mum said:


Will this make Lithgow more desirable?

Unlikely but the people there are quite nice , bitterly cold place, that is always windy and blowing a sleeting gale like the winds are coming off the mountain ranges of Antarctica

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Date: 15/05/2022 21:46:59
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1883781
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

monkey skipper said:


sarahs mum said:

Will this make Lithgow more desirable?

Unlikely but the people there are quite nice , bitterly cold place, that is always windy and blowing a sleeting gale like the winds are coming off the mountain ranges of Antarctica

I have read it being mooted as the next realestate rush/commuter haven.

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Date: 15/05/2022 21:47:42
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1883782
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

monkey skipper said:


sarahs mum said:

Will this make Lithgow more desirable?

Unlikely but the people there are quite nice , bitterly cold place, that is always windy and blowing a sleeting gale like the winds are coming off the mountain ranges of Antarctica

I have read it being mooted as the next realestate rush/commuter haven.

I’m glad I do not live in Lithgow.

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Date: 15/05/2022 21:48:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1883784
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

monkey skipper said:


sarahs mum said:

Will this make Lithgow more desirable?

Unlikely but the people there are quite nice , bitterly cold place, that is always windy and blowing a sleeting gale like the winds are coming off the mountain ranges of Antarctica

The wind off the big southern iceblock.

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Date: 15/05/2022 21:52:22
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1883785
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

sibeen said:

I don’t know why they are paying so much for it. The Boring Company would knock this over in a fortnight for about the cost of a 6 pack and a cooked chook.

Had no idea you were such a Musk fanboi.

This is good and all but … are they going to include a rail line?

I don’t know, but I thought maybe there was a bit of sarcasm there.

Not like sibeen, I know.

I’m pretty sure this money could be spent better elsewhere.

so not Australia’s longest pork barrel then

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Date: 15/05/2022 21:52:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1883786
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

sarahs mum said:


monkey skipper said:

sarahs mum said:

Will this make Lithgow more desirable?

Unlikely but the people there are quite nice , bitterly cold place, that is always windy and blowing a sleeting gale like the winds are coming off the mountain ranges of Antarctica

I have read it being mooted as the next realestate rush/commuter haven.

Daughter’s partner’s father has a property there, They were alerted by a neighbour that the old guy was about to sell the place to soome blow in and he was worried about his sanity. The price he was offered was $900,000. They managed to stop the sale aiinly because they thought he was going to get ripped off and left high and dry with nowhere to go. They went up and cleaned the place up and got a real estate agent in for a valuation. He said $700,000. It is a lovely bit of acreage with an historic house.

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Date: 15/05/2022 22:09:26
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1883789
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

roughbarked said:


sarahs mum said:

monkey skipper said:

Unlikely but the people there are quite nice , bitterly cold place, that is always windy and blowing a sleeting gale like the winds are coming off the mountain ranges of Antarctica

I have read it being mooted as the next realestate rush/commuter haven.

Daughter’s partner’s father has a property there, They were alerted by a neighbour that the old guy was about to sell the place to soome blow in and he was worried about his sanity. The price he was offered was $900,000. They managed to stop the sale aiinly because they thought he was going to get ripped off and left high and dry with nowhere to go. They went up and cleaned the place up and got a real estate agent in for a valuation. He said $700,000. It is a lovely bit of acreage with an historic house.

700k with historic house on acreage sounds cheap.

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Date: 15/05/2022 22:11:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1883791
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

sarahs mum said:


roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

I have read it being mooted as the next realestate rush/commuter haven.

Daughter’s partner’s father has a property there, They were alerted by a neighbour that the old guy was about to sell the place to soome blow in and he was worried about his sanity. The price he was offered was $900,000. They managed to stop the sale aiinly because they thought he was going to get ripped off and left high and dry with nowhere to go. They went up and cleaned the place up and got a real estate agent in for a valuation. He said $700,000. It is a lovely bit of acreage with an historic house.

700k with historic house on acreage sounds cheap.

Yeah. So I’d say that land in that area isn’t so popular with the market. Byron Bay prices far exxed that.

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Date: 15/05/2022 22:36:58
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1883801
Subject: re: NSW site for Australia's longest tunnel

> The planned 11-kilometre tunnel will stretch from Blackheath to Little Hartley, bypassing Mount Victoria.

I want a tunnel to replace/duplicate Macquarie Pass.

Please.

I know that the route for one was surveyed by NSW state government.

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