Monkeypox
19 May 2022
Key facts

Monkeypox is caused by monkeypox virus, a member of the Orthopoxvirus genus in the family Poxviridae.

Monkeypox is a viral zoonotic disease that occurs primarily in tropical rainforest areas of Central and West Africa and is occasionally exported to other regions.
Monkeypox typically presents clinically with fever, rash and swollen lymph nodes and may lead to a range of medical complications.
Monkeypox is usually a self-limited disease with the symptoms lasting from 2 to 4 weeks. Severe cases can occur. In recent times, the case fatality ratio has been around 3-6%.
Monkeypox is transmitted to humans through close contact with an infected person or animal, or with material contaminated with the virus.
Monkeypox virus is transmitted from one person to another by close contact with lesions, body fluids, respiratory droplets and contaminated materials such as bedding.
The clinical presentation of monkeypox resembles that of smallpox, a related orthopoxvirus infection which was declared eradicated worldwide in 1980. Monkeypox is less contagious than smallpox and causes less severe illness.
Vaccines used during the smallpox eradication programme also provided protection against monkeypox. Newer vaccines have been developed of which one has been approved for prevention of monkeypox
An antiviral agent developed for the treatment of smallpox has also been licensed for the treatment of monkeypox.

Introduction

Monkeypox is a viral zoonosis (a virus transmitted to humans from animals) with symptoms very similar to those seen in the past in smallpox patients, although it is clinically less severe. With the eradication of smallpox in 1980 and subsequent cessation of smallpox vaccination, monkeypox has emerged as the most important orthopoxvirus for public health. Monkeypox primarily occurs in Central and West Africa, often in proximity to tropical rainforests and has been increasingly appearing in urban areas. Animal hosts include a range of rodents and non-human primates.

The pathogen

Monkeypox virus is an enveloped double-stranded DNA virus that belongs to the Orthopoxvirus genus of the Poxviridae family. There are two distinct genetic clades of the monkeypox virus – the Central African (Congo Basin) clade and the West African clade. The Congo Basin clade has historically caused more severe disease and was thought to be more transmissible. The geographical division between the two clades has so far been in Cameroon – the only country where both virus clades have been found.

Natural host of monkeypox virus
Various animal species have been identified as susceptible to monkeypox virus.. This includes rope squirrels, tree squirrels, Gambian pouched rats, dormice, non-human primates and other species. Uncertainty remains on the natural history of monkeypox virus and further studies are needed to identify the exact reservoir(s) and how virus circulation is maintained in nature.

Outbreaks

Human monkeypox was first identified in humans in 1970 in the Democratic Republic of the Congo in a 9-year-old boy in a region where smallpox had been eliminated in 1968. Since then, most cases have been reported from rural, rainforest regions of the Congo Basin, particularly in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and human cases have increasingly been reported from across Central and West Africa.

Since 1970, human cases of monkeypox have been reported in 11 African countries – Benin, Cameroon, the Central African Republic, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Gabon, Cote d’Ivoire, Liberia, Nigeria, the Republic of the Congo, Sierra Leone, and South Sudan. The true burden of monkeypox is not known. For example, in 1996–97, an outbreak was reported in the Democratic Republic of the Congo with a lower case fatality ratio and a higher attack rate than usual. A concurrent outbreak of chickenpox (caused by the varicella virus, which is not an orthopoxvirus) and monkeypox was found which could explain real or apparent changes in transmission dynamics in this case. Since 2017, Nigeria has experienced a large outbreak, with over 500 suspected cases and over 200 confirmed cases and a case fatality ratio of approximately 3%. Cases continue to be reported until today.

Monkeypox is a disease of global public health importance as it not only affects countries in West and Central Africa, but the rest of the world. In 2003, the first monkeypox outbreak outside of Africa was in the United States of America and was linked to contact with infected pet prairie dogs. These pets had been housed with Gambian pouched rats and dormice that had been imported into the country from Ghana. This outbreak led to over 70 cases of monkeypox in the U.S. Monkeypox has also been reported in travelers from Nigeria to Israel in September 2018, to the United Kingdom in September 2018, December 2019, May 2021 and May 2022, to Singapore in May 2019, and to the United States of America in July and November 2021. In May 2022, multiple cases of monkeypox were identified in several non-endemic countries. Studies are currently underway to further understand the epidemiology, sources of infection, and transmission patterns.

Transmission

Animal-to-human (zoonotic) transmission can occur from direct contact with the blood, bodily fluids, or cutaneous or mucosal lesions of infected animals. In Africa, evidence of monkeypox virus infection has been found in many animals including rope squirrels, tree squirrels, Gambian poached rats, dormice, different species of monkeys and others. The natural reservoir of monkeypox has not yet been identified, though rodents are the most likely. Eating inadequately cooked meat and other animal products of infected animals is a possible risk factor. People living in or near forested areas may have indirect or low-level exposure to infected animals.

Human-to-human transmission can result from close contact with respiratory secretions, skin lesions of an infected person or recently contaminated objects. Transmission via droplet respiratory particles usually requires prolonged face-to-face contact, which puts health workers, household members and other close contacts of active cases at greater risk. However, the longest documented chain of transmission in a community has risen in recent years from six to nine successive person-to-person infections. This may reflect declining immunity in all communities due to cessation of smallpox vaccination. Transmission can also occur via the placenta from mother to fetus (which can lead to congenital monkeypox) or during close contact during and after birth. While close physical contact is a well-known risk factor for transmission, it is unclear at this time if monkeypox can be transmitted specifically through sexual transmission routes. Studies are needed to better understand this risk.

Signs and symptoms

The incubation period (interval from infection to onset of symptoms) of monkeypox is usually from 6 to 13 days but can range from 5 to 21 days.

The infection can be divided into two periods:

the invasion period (lasts between 0-5 days) characterized by fever, intense headache, lymphadenopathy (swelling of the lymph nodes), back pain, myalgia (muscle aches) and intense asthenia (lack of energy). Lymphadenopathy is a distinctive feature of monkeypox compared to other diseases that may initially appear similar (chickenpox, measles, smallpox)

the skin eruption usually begins within 1-3 days of appearance of fever. The rash tends to be more concentrated on the face and extremities rather than on the trunk. It affects the face (in 95% of cases), and palms of the hands and soles of the feet (in 75% of cases). Also affected are oral mucous membranes (in 70% of cases), genitalia (30%), and conjunctivae (20%), as well as the cornea. The rash evolves sequentially from macules (lesions with a flat base) to papules (slightly raised firm lesions), vesicles (lesions filled with clear fluid), pustules (lesions filled with yellowish fluid), and crusts which dry up and fall off. The number of lesions varies from a few to several thousand. In severe cases, lesions can coalesce until large sections of skin slough off.
Monkeypox is usually a self-limited disease with the symptoms lasting from 2 to 4 weeks. Severe cases occur more commonly among children and are related to the extent of virus exposure, patient health status and nature of complications. Underlying immune deficiencies may lead to worse outcomes. Although vaccination against smallpox was protective in the past, today persons younger than 40 to 50 years of age (depending on the country) may be more susceptible to monkeypox due to cessation of smallpox vaccination campaigns globally after eradication of the disease. Complications of monkeypox can include secondary infections, bronchopneumonia, sepsis, encephalitis, and infection of the cornea with ensuing loss of vision. The extent to which asymptomatic infection may occur is unknown.

The case fatality ratio of monkeypox has historically ranged from 0 to 11 % in the general population and has been higher among young children. In recent times, the case fatality ratio has been around 3-6%.

Diagnosis

The clinical differential diagnosis that must be considered includes other rash illnesses, such as chickenpox, measles, bacterial skin infections, scabies, syphilis, and medication-associated allergies. Lymphadenopathy during the prodromal stage of illness can be a clinical feature to distinguish monkeypox from chickenpox or smallpox.

If monkeypox is suspected, health workers should collect an appropriate sample and have it transported safely to a laboratory with appropriate capability. Confirmation of monkeypox depends on the type and quality of the specimen and the type of laboratory test. Thus, specimens should be packaged and shipped in accordance with national and international requirements. Polymerase chain reaction (PCR) is the preferred laboratory test given its accuracy and sensitivity. For this, optimal diagnostic samples for monkeypox are from skin lesions – the roof or fluid from vesicles and pustules, and dry crusts. Where feasible, biopsy is an option. Lesion samples must be stored in a dry, sterile tube (no viral transport media) and kept cold. PCR blood tests are usually inconclusive because of the short duration of viremia relative to the timing of specimen collection after symptoms begin and should not be routinely collected from patients.

As orthopoxviruses are serologically cross-reactive, antigen and antibody detection methods do not provide monkeypox-specific confirmation. Serology and antigen detection methods are therefore not recommended for diagnosis or case investigation where resources are limited. Additionally, recent or remote vaccination with a vaccinia-based vaccine (e.g. anyone vaccinated before smallpox eradication, or more recently vaccinated due to higher risk such as orthopoxvirus laboratory personnel) might lead to false positive results.

In order to interpret test results, it is critical that patient information be provided with the specimens including: a) date of onset of fever, b) date of onset of rash, c) date of specimen collection, d) current status of the individual (stage of rash), and e) age.

Therapeutics

Clinical care for monkeypox should be fully optimized to alleviate symptoms, manage complications and prevent long-term sequelae. Patients should be offered fluids and food to maintain adequate nutritional status. Secondary bacterial infections should be treated as indicated. An antiviral agent known as tecovirimat that was developed for smallpox was licensed by the European Medical Association (EMA) for monkeypox in 2022 based on data in animal and human studies. It is not yet widely available.

If used for patient care, tecovirimat should ideally be monitored in a clinical research context with prospective data collection.

Vaccination

Vaccination against smallpox was demonstrated through several observational studies to be about 85% effective in preventing monkeypox. Thus, prior smallpox vaccination may result in milder illness. Evidence of prior vaccination against smallpox can usually be found as a scar on the upper arm. At the present time, the original (first-generation) smallpox vaccines are no longer available to the general public. Some laboratory personnel or health workers may have received a more recent smallpox vaccine to protect them in the event of exposure to orthopoxviruses in the workplace. A still newer vaccine based on a modified attenuated vaccinia virus (Ankara strain) was approved for the prevention of monkeypox in 2019. This is a two-dose vaccine for which availability remains limited. Smallpox and monkeypox vaccines are developed in formulations based on the vaccinia virus due to cross-protection afforded for the immune response to orthopoxviruses.

Prevention

Raising awareness of risk factors and educating people about the measures they can take to reduce exposure to the virus is the main prevention strategy for monkeypox. Scientific studies are now underway to assess the feasibility and appropriateness of vaccination for the prevention and control of monkeypox. Some countries have, or are developing, policies to offer vaccine to persons who may be at risk such as laboratory personnel, rapid response teams and health workers.

Reducing the risk of human-to-human transmission
Surveillance and rapid identification of new cases is critical for outbreak containment. During human monkeypox outbreaks, close contact with infected persons is the most significant risk factor for monkeypox virus infection. Health workers and household members are at a greater risk of infection. Health workers caring for patients with suspected or confirmed monkeypox virus infection, or handling specimens from them, should implement standard infection control precautions. If possible, persons previously vaccinated against smallpox should be selected to care for the patient.

Samples taken from people and animals with suspected monkeypox virus infection should be handled by trained staff working in suitably equipped laboratories. Patient specimens must be safely prepared for transport with triple packaging in accordance with WHO guidance for transport of infectious substances.

The identification in May 2022 of clusters of monkeypox cases in several non-endemic countries with no direct travel links to an endemic area is atypical. Further investigations are underway to determine the likely source of infection and limit further onward spread. As the source of this outbreak is being investigated, it is important to look at all possible modes of transmission in order to safeguard public health. Further information on this outbreak can be found here

Reducing the risk of zoonotic transmission
Over time, most human infections have resulted from a primary, animal-to-human transmission. Unprotected contact with wild animals, especially those that are sick or dead, including their meat, blood and other parts must be avoided. Additionally, all foods containing animal meat or parts must be thoroughly cooked before eating.

Preventing monkeypox through restrictions on animal trade
Some countries have put in place regulations restricting importation of rodents and non-human primates. Captive animals that are potentially infected with monkeypox should be isolated from other animals and placed into immediate quarantine. Any animals that might have come into contact with an infected animal should be quarantined, handled with standard precautions and observed for monkeypox symptoms for 30 days.

How monkeypox relates to smallpox

The clinical presentation of monkeypox resembles that of smallpox, a related orthopoxvirus infection which has been eradicated. Smallpox was more easily transmitted and more often fatal as about 30% of patients died. The last case of naturally acquired smallpox occurred in 1977, and in 1980 smallpox was declared to have been eradicated worldwide after a global campaign of vaccination and containment. It has been 40 or more years since all countries ceased routine smallpox vaccination with vaccinia-based vaccines. As vaccination also protected against monkeypox in West and Central Africa, unvaccinated populations are now also more susceptible to monkeypox virus infection.

Whereas smallpox no longer occurs naturally, the global health sector remains vigilant in the event it could reappear through natural mechanisms, laboratory accident or deliberate release. To ensure global preparedness in the event of reemergence of smallpox, newer vaccines, diagnostics and antiviral agents are being developed. These may also now prove useful for prevention and control of monkeypox.

WHO response

WHO supports Member States with surveillance, preparedness and outbreak response activities for monkeypox in affected countries. More information can be found here.

News

WHO working closely with countries responding to monkeypox 20 May 2022Events
WHO Monkeypox Research: What are the knowledge gaps and priority research questions? 2 June 2022 13:00 – 19:30 CETDocuments

Monkey Pox Data Collection Toolbox final – Inis 20 November-update June 2021 (111 KB)
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Immunity from Smallpox Vaccine Persists for Decades

Am J Med. 2008 Dec; 121(12): 1058–1064.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2610468/

I was vaccinated against smallpox in 1964 – and have the scar to prove it.

what if SARS-CoV-2 caused immune deficiency

Am I less likely to monkeypox having had cow pox?

Vacca cination

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IS.AIR.PSGR?end=2020&start=1970&view=chart

just looking at that^, increase (+ rate) 2009-2019, then the sharp decline

perhaps there’s a bigger trouble, a travelpox

sarahs mum said:

Am I less likely to monkeypox having had cow pox?

Yes.

Man Speaks Wisdom

https://twitter.com/cggbamford/status/1528385454617272322

Monkeypox is NOT a ‘repeat of Covid’: UK minister insists nation’s spiralling outbreak is ‘nowhere near as serious’ as health chiefs brace for another rise in cases today

Simon Clarke said he is ‘cautious’ but ‘certainly not concerned’ about the UK’s ability to manage the outbreak

He said monkeypox spread is not ‘some repeat of Covid’ and is not ‘anywhere near’ same level of seriousness

UK health bosses are set to announce more cases today after warning on Friday that the number will rise

Simon Clarke, chief secretary to the Treasury, this morning said he is ‘cautious’ but ‘certainly not concerned’ about the UK’s ability to manage the outbreak, which had been detected in 20 Britons by Friday

Monkeypox is ‘not a repeat of Covid’, a Government official insisted today amid growing fears about the tropical virus sweeping the world.

Simon Clarke, chief secretary to the Treasury, claimed he is ‘cautious’ but ‘certainly not concerned’ about the UK’s ability to manage the outbreak, which has already sickened 20 Britons including a child.

Mr Clarke said: ‘We are certainly not in a position where I would in anyway worry the public that this is some repeat of Covid, because it certainly does not appear to be anywhere near the same platform of seriousness.’

Leading experts are adamant monkeypox won’t spiral out of control like the coronavirus, which forced the nation into two years of on/off economically-crippling restrictions.

However, they have called the UK’s escalating situation ‘undoubtedly worrying’ and ‘unprecedented’.

UK Health Security Agency bosses are set to announce even more cases today, after warning on Friday that the worst was still to come. A disproportionate number of cases are in gay and bisexual men.

High-risk close contacts of monkeypox sufferers are being told to self-isolate for three weeks and to avoid contact with children.

That is twice as long as the quarantine advice for Covid contacts at the height of the pandemic because the virus’ incubation period is much longer.

Monkeypox is usually only spotted within Africa, but at least 15 countries including the US, France and Spain have all detected the virus this month. Argentina last night became the latest nation to announce that it was probing a suspected case.

World Health Organization (WHO) bosses had been informed of 92 confirmed cases by Saturday and 28 suspected infections, most of which have been detected in Europe.

But the true toll will be many times higher, with top scientists warning community transmission means some of the spread is inevitably going undetected.

Eleven more Britons have been diagnosed with monkeypox and all but one of them appear to have contracted it in the UK. The original UK patient had brought the virus back from Nigeria, where the disease is widespread. The UK has now logged 20 cases

monkey skipper said:

Monkeypox is NOT a ‘repeat of Covid’: UK minister insists nation’s spiralling outbreak is ‘nowhere near as serious’ as health chiefs brace for another rise in cases today

Simon Clarke said he is ‘cautious’ but ‘certainly not concerned’ about the UK’s ability to manage the outbreak

He said monkeypox spread is not ‘some repeat of Covid’ and is not ‘anywhere near’ same level of seriousness

UK health bosses are set to announce more cases today after warning on Friday that the number will rise

Simon Clarke, chief secretary to the Treasury, this morning said he is ‘cautious’ but ‘certainly not concerned’ about the UK’s ability to manage the outbreak

we mean every time jokers like these keep telling people that everything is fine calm down there is no problem

UK

US

fun times

SCIENCE said:

fun times

the globalization of disease, the more it is so the more difficult it will be to stop anything that needs stopping, in fact eventually you might stop having the idea something should be stopped

Looks Like That Curve Is Fattening At Last

SCIENCE said:

Looks Like That Curve Is Fattening At Last

add that to all the internationalized venereal joy and greater responsibility assumed by the open society, bring some friends, syphilis, gonorrhea and whatever else

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10849635/Global-monkeypox-outbreak-waiting-happen-scientists-say.html

by memory possibly not verbatim below, from page above^

‘….eradicating smallpox may have left the world vulnerable to monkeypox, experts have warned amid growing fears about the current outbreak sweeping the world..’

what a lovely way to say whatever it says

transition said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10849635/Global-monkeypox-outbreak-waiting-happen-scientists-say.html

by memory possibly not verbatim below, from page above^

‘….eradicating smallpox may have left the world vulnerable to monkeypox, experts have warned amid growing fears about the current outbreak sweeping the world..’

what a lovely way to say whatever it says

daphuq

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10849635/Global-monkeypox-outbreak-waiting-happen-scientists-say.html

by memory possibly not verbatim below, from page above^

‘….eradicating smallpox may have left the world vulnerable to monkeypox, experts have warned amid growing fears about the current outbreak sweeping the world..’

what a lovely way to say whatever it says

daphuq

not sure what experts said that, i’m sure experts can be idiots in ways too, you don’t need be a genius to know it’s a way of seeing it, and possibly not a very good way of seeing it, perhaps it’s devious, that came to mind anyway

further in that sentence the world is said twice, tell me it’s not conceptually subsuming something, and worse, that it’s not an ideological device

not sure about sweeping, whatever, perhaps some have a secret hope it does, something sweeps, who knows

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10849635/Global-monkeypox-outbreak-waiting-happen-scientists-say.html

by memory possibly not verbatim below, from page above^

‘….eradicating smallpox may have left the world vulnerable to monkeypox, experts have warned amid growing fears about the current outbreak sweeping the world..’

what a lovely way to say whatever it says

daphuq

not sure what experts said that, i’m sure experts can be idiots in ways too, you don’t need be a genius to know it’s a way of seeing it, and possibly not a very good way of seeing it, perhaps it’s devious, that came to mind anyway

further in that sentence the world is said twice, tell me it’s not conceptually subsuming something, and worse, that it’s not an ideological device

not sure about sweeping, whatever, perhaps some have a secret hope it does, something sweeps, who knows

language what a wonderful thing it is eh, Freudian even sometimes

hard to abide this “if we get rid of disease, then there will only be a different disease without the first one mentioned” shit though

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

daphuq

not sure what experts said that, i’m sure experts can be idiots in ways too, you don’t need be a genius to know it’s a way of seeing it, and possibly not a very good way of seeing it, perhaps it’s devious, that came to mind anyway

further in that sentence the world is said twice, tell me it’s not conceptually subsuming something, and worse, that it’s not an ideological device

not sure about sweeping, whatever, perhaps some have a secret hope it does, something sweeps, who knows

language what a wonderful thing it is eh, Freudian even sometimes

hard to abide this “if we get rid of disease, then there will only be a different disease without the first one mentioned” shit though

maybe capitalist globalism as it is today is teetering on the precipice of collapse, money is so debased by debt and accelerating, grotesque distortions, all that is left is bullshit to make it work, large part of the bullshit is in what passes as will be liberating, notions that way, largely to make and keep overpopulation working, a necessary decadence, expanding decadence

perhaps the globalists are seriously desperate now to make the bullshit work, more desperate than ever

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

not sure what experts said that, i’m sure experts can be idiots in ways too, you don’t need be a genius to know it’s a way of seeing it, and possibly not a very good way of seeing it, perhaps it’s devious, that came to mind anyway

further in that sentence the world is said twice, tell me it’s not conceptually subsuming something, and worse, that it’s not an ideological device

not sure about sweeping, whatever, perhaps some have a secret hope it does, something sweeps, who knows

language what a wonderful thing it is eh, Freudian even sometimes

hard to abide this “if we get rid of disease, then there will only be a different disease without the first one mentioned” shit though

maybe capitalist globalism as it is today is teetering on the precipice of collapse, money is so debased by debt and accelerating, grotesque distortions, all that is left is bullshit to make it work, large part of the bullshit is in what passes as will be liberating, notions that way, largely to make and keep overpopulation working, a necessary decadence, expanding decadence

perhaps the globalists are seriously desperate now to make the bullshit work, more desperate than ever

Maybe we need Edward Gibbon to chronicle the decline.

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

not sure what experts said that, i’m sure experts can be idiots in ways too, you don’t need be a genius to know it’s a way of seeing it, and possibly not a very good way of seeing it, perhaps it’s devious, that came to mind anyway

further in that sentence the world is said twice, tell me it’s not conceptually subsuming something, and worse, that it’s not an ideological device

not sure about sweeping, whatever, perhaps some have a secret hope it does, something sweeps, who knows

language what a wonderful thing it is eh, Freudian even sometimes

hard to abide this “if we get rid of disease, then there will only be a different disease without the first one mentioned” shit though

maybe capitalist globalism as it is today is teetering on the precipice of collapse, money is so debased by debt and accelerating, grotesque distortions, all that is left is bullshit to make it work, large part of the bullshit is in what passes as will be liberating, notions that way, largely to make and keep overpopulation working, a necessary decadence, expanding decadence

perhaps the globalists are seriously desperate now to make the bullshit work, more desperate than ever

You are pretty negative about the only thing that will allow the world a reasonably peaceable future.

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

language what a wonderful thing it is eh, Freudian even sometimes

hard to abide this “if we get rid of disease, then there will only be a different disease without the first one mentioned” shit though

maybe capitalist globalism as it is today is teetering on the precipice of collapse, money is so debased by debt and accelerating, grotesque distortions, all that is left is bullshit to make it work, large part of the bullshit is in what passes as will be liberating, notions that way, largely to make and keep overpopulation working, a necessary decadence, expanding decadence

perhaps the globalists are seriously desperate now to make the bullshit work, more desperate than ever

You are pretty negative about the only thing that will allow the world a reasonably peaceable future.

when the debt gets so big, how is the government going to collect tax, needed revenue that way

transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

maybe capitalist globalism as it is today is teetering on the precipice of collapse, money is so debased by debt and accelerating, grotesque distortions, all that is left is bullshit to make it work, large part of the bullshit is in what passes as will be liberating, notions that way, largely to make and keep overpopulation working, a necessary decadence, expanding decadence

perhaps the globalists are seriously desperate now to make the bullshit work, more desperate than ever

You are pretty negative about the only thing that will allow the world a reasonably peaceable future.

when the debt gets so big, how is the government going to collect tax, needed revenue that way

he must mean negative debt

transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

maybe capitalist globalism as it is today is teetering on the precipice of collapse, money is so debased by debt and accelerating, grotesque distortions, all that is left is bullshit to make it work, large part of the bullshit is in what passes as will be liberating, notions that way, largely to make and keep overpopulation working, a necessary decadence, expanding decadence

perhaps the globalists are seriously desperate now to make the bullshit work, more desperate than ever

You are pretty negative about the only thing that will allow the world a reasonably peaceable future.

when the debt gets so big, how is the government going to collect tax, needed revenue that way

1. The same way they did before.
2. The connection between excess debt and globalism is zero, at most.

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

You are pretty negative about the only thing that will allow the world a reasonably peaceable future.

when the debt gets so big, how is the government going to collect tax, needed revenue that way

1. The same way they did before.
2. The connection between excess debt and globalism is zero, at most.

>1. The same way they did before.

i’m sure the tax office is right now, won’t render a few with large debts unviable

>2. The connection between excess debt and globalism is zero, at most.

dunno, reckon if you had cryptos at the moment you might be inclined to study the relationship

transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

when the debt gets so big, how is the government going to collect tax, needed revenue that way

1. The same way they did before.
2. The connection between excess debt and globalism is zero, at most.

>1. The same way they did before.

i’m sure the tax office is right now, won’t render a few with large debts unviable

>2. The connection between excess debt and globalism is zero, at most.

dunno, reckon if you had cryptos at the moment you might be inclined to study the relationship

But cryptos have nothing to do with globalism. The whole idea is they work to enrich some at the expense of others outside any regulation, global or otherwise.

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

1. The same way they did before.
2. The connection between excess debt and globalism is zero, at most.

>1. The same way they did before.

i’m sure the tax office is right now, won’t render a few with large debts unviable

>2. The connection between excess debt and globalism is zero, at most.

dunno, reckon if you had cryptos at the moment you might be inclined to study the relationship

But cryptos have nothing to do with globalism. The whole idea is they work to enrich some at the expense of others outside any regulation, global or otherwise.

like a virus perhaps

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

1. The same way they did before.
2. The connection between excess debt and globalism is zero, at most.

>1. The same way they did before.

i’m sure the tax office is right now, won’t render a few with large debts unviable

>2. The connection between excess debt and globalism is zero, at most.

dunno, reckon if you had cryptos at the moment you might be inclined to study the relationship

But cryptos have nothing to do with globalism. The whole idea is they work to enrich some at the expense of others outside any regulation, global or otherwise.

not sure I agree with any of that, other than the placement of the comma between the fourth and third last word seems appropriate, and starting the sentences with capital letters, and the two full stops you used

The Rev Dodgson said:

cryptos have nothing to do with globalism. The whole idea is they work to enrich some at the expense of others outside any regulation,

so in that case we’ll need someone intelligenter than ourselves to explain to us

one, how national cryptocurrencies avoid any regulation, and

two, how we can be sure that unregulated cryptocurrency isn’t a method to exploit globalism to enrich some nations at the expense of others

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

cryptos have nothing to do with globalism. The whole idea is they work to enrich some at the expense of others outside any regulation,

so in that case we’ll need someone intelligenter than ourselves to explain to us

one, how national cryptocurrencies avoid any regulation, and

two, how we can be sure that unregulated cryptocurrency isn’t a method to exploit globalism to enrich some nations at the expense of others

I don’t think it’s worth trying.

Not that I’m claiming to be intelligenter than you lot anyway.

Although that is a possibility.

the internationalist disease libertarians like to keep the planes in the air across the planet, unrestricted travel, keen on minimal obstructions to that, what better way than to have whatever endemic both ends, anywhere you travel, of course there’s lots of noises to distract from the inconvenient fact that so much travel, so much cheap travel makes for an environment in which it’s hard to stop anything moving around, certainly pathogens

lots of potential hosts + lots of travel =

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10857205/Americans-traveling-abroad-urged-enhanced-precautions-against-monkeypox.html

LOL

ahahahahahah fucking legit’ ahahaha

the page https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/clinicians/infection-control-hospital.html now contains

<meta http-equiv=“refresh” content=“0; url=/poxvirus/monkeypox/clinicians/infection-control-healthcare.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fpoxvirus%2Fmonkeypox%2Fclinicians%2Finfection-control-hospital.html”>

in its header so you end up at https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/clinicians/infection-control-healthcare.html which has “airborne” exactly once

but if you wind the clock back and goto https://web.archive.org/web/20150612084226/http://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/clinicians/infection-control-hospital.html then some fun stuff appears

In addition, because of the theoretical risk of airborne transmission of monkeypox virus, airborne precautions should be applied whenever possible.If a patient presenting for care at a hospital or other health care facility is suspected of having monkeypox, infection control personnel should be notified immediately.

SCIENCE said:

ahahahahahah fucking legit’ ahahaha

the page https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/clinicians/infection-control-hospital.html now contains

<meta http-equiv=“refresh” content=“0; url=/poxvirus/monkeypox/clinicians/infection-control-healthcare.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fpoxvirus%2Fmonkeypox%2Fclinicians%2Finfection-control-hospital.html”>

in its header so you end up at https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/clinicians/infection-control-healthcare.html which has “airborne” exactly once

Infection Prevention and Control of Monkeypox in Healthcare Settings

On This Page

• Precautions for Preventing Monkeypox Transmission
• Patient Placement
• Personal Protective Equipment (PPE)
• Waste Management
• Environmental Infection Control
• Duration of Precautions
• Additional Resources

Human-to-human transmission of monkeypox virus occurs by direct contact with lesion material or from exposure to respiratory secretions. Reports of human-to-human transmission describe close contact with an infectious person. Transmission in healthcare settings has been rarely described.

Infection prevention and control recommendations for healthcare settings are provided in the Guideline for Isolation Precautions: Preventing Transmission of Infectious Agents in Healthcare Settings (2007). Recommendations and practices described in this 2007 guideline are intended to be used when providing care for any patient in a healthcare setting, including those with monkeypox infection.  Additional supporting infection prevention and control information is provided below.

Precautions for Preventing Monkeypox Transmission

Standard Precautions should be applied for all patient care, including for patients with suspected monkeypox.  If a patient seeking care is suspected to have monkeypox, infection prevention and control personnel should be notified immediately.

Activities that could resuspend dried material from lesions, e.g., use of portable fans, dry dusting, sweeping, or vacuuming should be avoided.

Patient Placement

A patient with suspected or confirmed monkeypox infection should be placed in a single-person room; special air handling is not required. The door should be kept closed (if safe to do so). The patient should have a dedicated bathroom. Transport and movement of the patient outside of the room should be limited to medically essential purposes.  If the patient is transported outside of their room, they should use well-fitting source control  (e.g., medical mask) and have any exposed skin lesions covered with a sheet or gown.

Intubation and extubation, and any procedures likely to spread oral secretions should be performed in an airborne infection isolation room.

Personal Protective Equipment (PPE)

PPE used by healthcare personnel who enter the patient’s room should include:

• Gown


• Gloves


• Eye protection (i.e., goggles or a face shield that covers the front and sides of the face)


• NIOSH-approved N95 filtering facepiece or equivalent, or higher-level respirator

Waste Management

Waste management (i.e., handling, storage, treatment, and disposal of soiled PPE, patient dressings, etc.) should be performed in accordance with U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) Hazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR, Parts 171-180.)

Required waste management practices and category designation can differ depending on the monkeypox virus clade (strain).  See the DOT websiteexternal icon for more information. Facilities should also comply with state and local regulationsexternal icon for handling, storage, treatment, and disposal of waste.

Environmental Infection Control

Standard cleaning and disinfection procedures should be performed using an EPA-registered hospital-grade disinfectant with an emerging viral pathogen claim. Products with Emerging Viral Pathogens claimsexternal icon may be found on EPA’s List Qexternal icon. Follow the manufacturer’s directions for concentration, contact time, and care and handling.

Soiled laundry (e.g., bedding, towels, personal clothing) should be handled in accordance with standard practices, avoiding contact with lesion material that may be present on the laundry.  Soiled laundry should be gently and promptly contained in an appropriate laundry bag and never be shaken or handled in manner that may disperse infectious material.

Activities such as dry dusting, sweeping, or vacuuming should be avoided. Wet cleaning methods are preferred.

Management of food service items should also be performed in accordance with routine procedures.

Detailed information on environmental infection control in healthcare settings can be found in CDC’s Guidelines for Environmental Infection Control in Health-Care Facilities and Guideline for Isolation Precautions: Preventing Transmission of Infectious Agents in Healthcare Settings .

Duration of Precautions

Decisions regarding discontinuation of isolation precautions in a healthcare facility should be made in consultation with the local or state health department. Isolation Precautions should be maintained until all lesions have crusted, those crusts have separated, and a fresh layer of healthy skin has formed underneath.

Additional Resources

• Personal Protection Equipment (PPE)


• Sequence for Donning and Removing Personal Protective Equipment pdf icon


• Hand Hygiene in Healthcare Settings


• Source Control ppt icon

but if you wind the clock back and goto https://web.archive.org/web/20150612084226/http://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/clinicians/infection-control-hospital.html then some fun stuff appears

In addition, because of the theoretical risk of airborne transmission of monkeypox virus, airborne precautions should be applied whenever possible.If a patient presenting for care at a hospital or other health care facility is suspected of having monkeypox, infection control personnel should be notified immediately.

Anything about bananas ?

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

ahahahahahah fucking legit’ ahahaha

the page https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/clinicians/infection-control-hospital.html now contains

<meta http-equiv=“refresh” content=“0; url=/poxvirus/monkeypox/clinicians/infection-control-healthcare.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fpoxvirus%2Fmonkeypox%2Fclinicians%2Finfection-control-hospital.html”>

in its header so you end up at https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/clinicians/infection-control-healthcare.html which has “airborne” exactly once

Intubation and extubation, and any procedures likely to spread oral secretions should be performed in an airborne infection isolation room.

but if you wind the clock back and goto https://web.archive.org/web/20150612084226/http://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/clinicians/infection-control-hospital.html then some fun stuff appears

In addition, because of the theoretical risk of airborne transmission of monkeypox virus, airborne precautions should be applied whenever possible.If a patient presenting for care at a hospital or other health care facility is suspected of having monkeypox, infection control personnel should be notified immediately.

Anything about bananas ?

¿ apart from catching a lot of suckers, you mean ?

SCIENCE said:

LOL

you know you’re winning when it says biggest increase on record

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

you know you’re winning when it says biggest increase on record

¡ there’s an easier solution cuz, just don’t record them !

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

you know you’re winning when it says biggest increase on record

¡ there’s an easier solution cuz, just don’t record them !

you got to count them for a while until the accuracy fades, count them into existence, then swing it around to uncountable

SCIENCE said:

they are kinda differenting blah-blahs and all that.

SCIENCE said:

that last one’s a steady climb, more to count, more raw materials to give you statistics, looks like a win anyway for keeping the pollution mobile

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

that last one’s a steady climb, more to count, more raw materials to give you statistics, looks like a win anyway for keeping the pollution mobile

subject pollution, caught a glimpse of the State news yesterday, on long covid and clinics

can’t remember exactly, or even hardly, so possibly substantially inexactly, but heard the word should in a statement, dunno now, ’…should have recovered from covid….’ perhaps gets to the gist regard how or what was said

I can’t know for sure what the news writer meant when composing that, however it was said, but i’d expect there was better than a hint in the words closer to the introduction of the subject, which again I can’t recall, but the gist may have been ’…now that we’re all got use to living with covid…’

of course the troubles of long covid have been known going way back, before it was introduced into the State

more derr anyway, the human world turns on it

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

that last one’s a steady climb, more to count, more raw materials to give you statistics, looks like a win anyway for keeping the pollution mobile

You did look at the Y axis scales – right?

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

that last one’s a steady climb, more to count, more raw materials to give you statistics, looks like a win anyway for keeping the pollution mobile

You did look at the Y axis scales – right?

Y, isn’t it a steady climb

transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

that last one’s a steady climb, more to count, more raw materials to give you statistics, looks like a win anyway for keeping the pollution mobile

You did look at the Y axis scales – right?

Y, isn’t it a steady climb

The steady climb on the bottom graph is about 0.2% of the greatest steady climb in the top graph.

I’m almost tempted to suggest the graphs were deliberately deceptive.

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

You did look at the Y axis scales – right?

Y, isn’t it a steady climb

The steady climb on the bottom graph is about 0.2% of the greatest steady climb in the top graph.

I’m almost tempted to suggest the graphs were deliberately deceptive.

probably is deceptive, even openly, it’s not like stupid isn’t being transformed into common deceptions every day

still, the trajectory in the last graph is a steady climb, like I said, the last graph was the only one I mentioned, only one I referred to, not much necessarily needs be made of whatever comparison might be presented

transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

Y, isn’t it a steady climb

The steady climb on the bottom graph is about 0.2% of the greatest steady climb in the top graph.

I’m almost tempted to suggest the graphs were deliberately deceptive.

probably is deceptive, even openly, it’s not like stupid isn’t being transformed into common deceptions every day

still, the trajectory in the last graph is a steady climb, like I said, the last graph was the only one I mentioned, only one I referred to, not much necessarily needs be made of whatever comparison might be presented

Of course it’s a bloody steady climb.

What do you imagine could be done to avoid that?

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

The steady climb on the bottom graph is about 0.2% of the greatest steady climb in the top graph.

I’m almost tempted to suggest the graphs were deliberately deceptive.

probably is deceptive, even openly, it’s not like stupid isn’t being transformed into common deceptions every day

still, the trajectory in the last graph is a steady climb, like I said, the last graph was the only one I mentioned, only one I referred to, not much necessarily needs be made of whatever comparison might be presented

Of course it’s a bloody steady climb.

What do you imagine could be done to avoid that?

there ya go

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m almost tempted to suggest the graphs were deliberately deceptive.

what

is deliberately deceptive means more honest than raw perhaps

transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

probably is deceptive, even openly, it’s not like stupid isn’t being transformed into common deceptions every day

still, the trajectory in the last graph is a steady climb, like I said, the last graph was the only one I mentioned, only one I referred to, not much necessarily needs be made of whatever comparison might be presented

Of course it’s a bloody steady climb.

What do you imagine could be done to avoid that?

there ya go

What does that mean?

I mean the page is headed with the words “How public health used to work and how it is going at present”.

What it actually shows is that public health works in the early stages of a possible pandemic much as it did in the 1960’s. There certainly isn’t enough information there to say if it working better or worse in this case.

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m almost tempted to suggest the graphs were deliberately deceptive.

what

is deliberately deceptive means more honest than raw perhaps

Well done.

You have beaten transition in writing a question whose intended meaning is entirely hidden.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m almost tempted to suggest the graphs were deliberately deceptive.

what

is deliberately deceptive means more honest than raw perhaps

Well done.

You have beaten transition in writing a question whose intended meaning is entirely hidden.

It can be fun to watch.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m almost tempted to suggest the graphs were deliberately deceptive.

what

if deliberately deceptive means more honest than raw perhaps

Well done.

You have beaten transition in writing a question whose intended meaning is entirely hidden.

we typographically erred and apologise, but we have now fixed it

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Of course it’s a bloody steady climb.

What do you imagine could be done to avoid that?

there ya go

What does that mean?

I mean the page is headed with the words “How public health used to work and how it is going at present”.

What it actually shows is that public health works in the early stages of a possible pandemic much as it did in the 1960’s. There certainly isn’t enough information there to say if it working better or worse in this case.

it means you ran out of imagination, and went on to convince yourself that was normal, inevitable

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

what

if deliberately deceptive means more honest than raw perhaps

Well done.

You have beaten transition in writing a question whose intended meaning is entirely hidden.

we typographically erred and apologise, but we have now fixed it

Where is it fixed?

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

what

is deliberately deceptive means more honest than raw perhaps

Well done.

You have beaten transition in writing a question whose intended meaning is entirely hidden.

It can be fun to watch.

we do enjoy our specular images

transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

there ya go

What does that mean?

I mean the page is headed with the words “How public health used to work and how it is going at present”.

What it actually shows is that public health works in the early stages of a possible pandemic much as it did in the 1960’s. There certainly isn’t enough information there to say if it working better or worse in this case.

it means you ran out of imagination, and went on to convince yourself that was normal, inevitable

It means you accepted the deliberately deceptive graphs without question as being a valid picture of the truth, when it isn’t, that’s all.

The Rev Dodgson said:

transition said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

What does that mean?

I mean the page is headed with the words “How public health used to work and how it is going at present”.

What it actually shows is that public health works in the early stages of a possible pandemic much as it did in the 1960’s. There certainly isn’t enough information there to say if it working better or worse in this case.

it means you ran out of imagination, and went on to convince yourself that was normal, inevitable

It means you accepted the deliberately deceptive graphs without question as being a valid picture of the truth, when it isn’t, that’s all.

I only referred to the last graph

you and I haven’t had an argument for a while, today could be the day

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Well done.

You have beaten transition in writing a question whose intended meaning is entirely hidden.

we typographically erred and apologise, but we have now fixed it

Where is it fixed?

To be more specific, how is plotting two graphs that show very similar trends over short time frames, to support the contention that things are far worse now not deliberately deceptive?

The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

we typographically erred and apologise, but we have now fixed it

Where is it fixed?

To be more specific, how is plotting two graphs that show very similar trends over short time frames, to support the contention that things are far worse now not deliberately deceptive?

if this

is the image you refer to then we believe they agree with you and are indeed making the contention that WHO are deliberately deceptively claiming that terrible smallpox can be eradicated, but monkeypox is dangerously difficult and surely impossible to interrupt transmission of slash decrease reproduction number of to less than one

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Where is it fixed?

To be more specific, how is plotting two graphs that show very similar trends over short time frames, to support the contention that things are far worse now not deliberately deceptive?

if this

is the image you refer to then we believe they agree with you and are indeed making the contention that WHO are deliberately deceptively claiming that terrible smallpox can be eradicated, but monkeypox is dangerously difficult and surely impossible to interrupt transmission of slash decrease reproduction number of to less than one

I’m retiring from this discussion now.

>I’m retiring from this discussion now.

i’ll probably continue the imaginary argument even though you’re physically absent, hope you don’t mind

transition said:

>I’m retiring from this discussion now.

i’ll probably continue the imaginary argument even though you’re physically absent, hope you don’t mind

Feel free :)

transition said:

>I’m retiring from this discussion now.

i’ll probably continue the imaginary argument even though you’re physically absent, hope you don’t mind

It’s curious these humans hey we mean you’d think that people turn tail at defeat but here we witness all the time the backing down from victorious agreement slash consensus it’s amazing¡

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

what

if deliberately deceptive means more honest than raw perhaps

Well done.

You have beaten transition in writing a question whose intended meaning is entirely hidden.

we typographically erred and apologise, but we have now fixed it

Where is it fixed?

there

actually separating them into different scales provides more meaning than using the same scale and one being unreadable

honesty

IFLScience
59 mins ·
Breaking:The WHO have declared monkey pox a global health emergency.

sarahs mum said:

IFLScience
59 mins ·
Breaking:The WHO have declared monkey pox a global health emergency.

took them a while eh

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-24/monkeypox-who-declares-global-emergency/101264482

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

IFLScience
59 mins ·
Breaking:The WHO have declared monkey pox a global health emergency.

took them a while eh

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-24/monkeypox-who-declares-global-emergency/101264482

beware if mass vaccinations are mentioned, it could be a ballot for global release, living with internationalized disease, a recruitment drive, and even if you don’t vote by having a vaccine you’ll find yourself even more responsible for the program

don’t worry some punters out there reckon it’ll become like golden staph’ or something, and then we can party

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

IFLScience
59 mins ·
Breaking:The WHO have declared monkey pox a global health emergency.

took them a while eh

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-24/monkeypox-who-declares-global-emergency/101264482

beware if mass vaccinations are mentioned, it could be a ballot for global release, living with internationalized disease, a recruitment drive, and even if you don’t vote by having a vaccine you’ll find yourself even more responsible for the program

I was vaccinated 56 years ago.

Michael V said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

took them a while eh

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-24/monkeypox-who-declares-global-emergency/101264482

beware if mass vaccinations are mentioned, it could be a ballot for global release, living with internationalized disease, a recruitment drive, and even if you don’t vote by having a vaccine you’ll find yourself even more responsible for the program

I was vaccinated 56 years ago.

same, way back, nicely done and eradicated smallpox, guess you mean

quite a different approach to vaccinating to live with it

transition said:

Michael V said:

transition said:

beware if mass vaccinations are mentioned, it could be a ballot for global release, living with internationalized disease, a recruitment drive, and even if you don’t vote by having a vaccine you’ll find yourself even more responsible for the program

I was vaccinated 56 years ago.

same, way back, nicely done and eradicated smallpox, guess you mean

quite a different approach to vaccinating to live with it

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

Michael V said:

I was vaccinated 56 years ago.

same, way back, nicely done and eradicated smallpox, guess you mean

quite a different approach to vaccinating to live with it

Assuming everybody is going to get covid eventually, what is wrong with accelerating the process? (as long as the medical facilities remain underwhelmed)

Dark Orange said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

same, way back, nicely done and eradicated smallpox, guess you mean

quite a different approach to vaccinating to live with it

Assuming everybody is going to get covid eventually, what is wrong with accelerating the process? (as long as the medical facilities remain underwhelmed)

nothing, it’s a choice, but apparently despite the fact that every fetus will get dead eventually, it’s terrorism to kill one

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

Michael V said:

I was vaccinated 56 years ago.

same, way back, nicely done and eradicated smallpox, guess you mean

quite a different approach to vaccinating to live with it

fairly much the last is true, appeals to the fit covid gregarious, even internationalist disease gregarious more broadly

keep in mind that the easy spread of disease is a very obvious example of where worldism fails, particularly in the context of massively expanded air travel for the ten years previous to 2019, then plague crashed air travel, tourism etc

but the truth is easy spread of disease across the globe is one of the biggest challenges to worldism ever, and into the future

it probably could be used as evidence of overpopulation, though that’s a tricky subject re how that might be conceptualized usefully, beneficially to everyone

a lot of people have notions akin to faith re worldism, i’m not talking about conspiracies of any sort

in a way it lends to quite a lot of good by way of distributed responsibility, but also allows diminished responsibility (worldism does)

there are all sorts of problems with the diminished responsibility business, which is set to expand as populations expand, it’s a bit of a cliff really and some are already going over the edge, tolerance of unlimited plague for example (covid they call it it)

Dark Orange said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

same, way back, nicely done and eradicated smallpox, guess you mean

quite a different approach to vaccinating to live with it

Assuming everybody is going to get covid eventually, what is wrong with accelerating the process? (as long as the medical facilities remain underwhelmed)

what might you call that, an accelerationist systems theory maybe, perhaps somewhere you absorbed not just the idea peoples reality is gotten from the contemporary social environment, it’s a construction that way, but further that it ought be more so, and of the ought be you’re now playing with compressing that time, who knows

perhaps people could die sooner because they are going to die anyway

perhaps we could destroy the earth soon because in three billion years the sun will burn it anyway

anyway it’s that time of day when the tables are set but today we might just take our Staple Vegetable Meat and throw it straight into the bowl we mean the bowl beneath the cistern

When New York Pride festivities kicked off on 24 June, I was aware that monkeypox was an emerging issue – especially for gay men – but I was also under the impression that the number of cases in the city was relatively small. What I didn’t understand was how absolutely dismal testing capacity was: at that point, the city only had capacity to process ten tests a day.

I had sex with several guys over the weekend. Then a week later, on 1 July, I started feeling very fatigued. I had a high fever with chills and muscle aches, and my lymph nodes were so swollen they were protruding two inches out of my throat.

First, I took a Covid self-test: negative. Then I started suspecting monkeypox. I texted a friend: I’m just sitting here waiting for the rash to start.

I’m a 39-year-old man from Sweden, living in Brooklyn and working in philanthropy. For the past decade, my work has primarily focused on sexual and reproductive health and rights, so I followed the outbreak from the very beginning. I had even tried to get vaccinated when New York City launched an initial vaccination drive on 23 June. But like the vast majority of other New Yorkers who tried to get an appointment, I had no luck.

Two days after my symptoms began, the rash started as anorectal lesions – painful sores on my anus and rectum. Initially it was a stinging, itchy feeling. I wasn’t scared at this point. I was told that it would be mild, and I was a completely healthy individual with no underlying conditions. But I had no idea how bad it was going to get.

I had a tele-health visit with my primary-care physician (PCP) and she agreed that I should get tested. So I went to urgent care. I had all the symptoms of monkeypox and thankfully nobody questioned whether or not I should receive a test. I also asked for a full STI panel.

I wanted the antiviral drug that is being used to treat monkeypox, TPOXX, but you need a positive test result first. So they sent me home with Tylenol. (European regulators have approved TPOXX as an effective monkeypox treatment, but the FDA has only approved it to treat smallpox. The CDC maintains a stockpile of TPOXX and allows for its “compassionate use” during monkeypox outbreaks.)

After I went home, the rash started spreading, and I began to feel anxious. I developed lesions literally everywhere; they started out looking like mosquito bites before developing into pimply blisters that would eventually pop, then finally scab before leaving a scar. I had them on my skull, on my face, my arms, my legs, my feet, my hands, my torso, my back, and five just on my right elbow. At the peak, I had over 50 lesions, a fever of 103F and intense pain, prompting a panic attack. Ironically, the only place I didn’t have lesions was my penis.

The next day I got my STI results: positive for gonorrhoea. But no word yet on monkeypox. That’s when I developed hives everywhere on my body from my neck down, as well as a headache, arthritis pain in my fingers and shoulders and a strange pain in my shin bone that got so painful that I couldn’t stand up. At night, I would wake up going crazy with both pain and itching from the lesions and hives, just sitting up in bed and scratching myself. I was isolated, lonely and frustrated with how unfair the situation was. I was clearly very sick, yet had to cobble together a care plan on my own.

My anorectal lesions, which were already very painful, turned into open wounds. It felt like I had three fissures right next to each other, and it was absolutely excruciating. I would literally scream out loud when I went to the bathroom. Even keeping the area clean, like washing myself, was extremely painful. It was a two hour process each time.

Four days after my test – I got a call from urgent care that I had tested positive for monkeypox. But they gave me no information beyond that. So I started calling around to see how I could get access to the antivirals. I knew the CDC had put out guidance around who should be considered for treatment, and that included people who had anorectal lesions, lesions in the throat and dermatological conditions, which I did.

But I was just referred in circles. I would call urgent care, who told me to contact the department of health. The department of health would say, “Oh no, your PCP has to request treatment for you.” Then I would contact my PCP, and they were like, “We can bring the case to the department of health, but just so you know, they deny most of our requests, so don’t get your hopes up.”

Then my throat started swelling up. My tonsils were covered in white pus. I did a video with someone in my PCP’s office and they said, “I think you should go to the ER.” The ER determined it was bacterial tonsillitis, and they gave me a round of antibiotics. But when I asked them for antivirals, they said they wouldn’t give them to me because they only gave it to people who were severely immunocompromised. I told them, “That’s not the CDC treatment guidelines.” They wouldn’t have it, and they discharged me at 2 am. I was incredibly demoralized.

The next evening, I finally got a call from a clinic at Columbia University’s Irving Medical Center. They said DoH had asked them to take on my case. So that was apparently how I was one of the lucky few to be invited for treatment. Because the drug hasn’t been extensively tested in humans, there’s quite a significant informed consent and intake process. I spent about an hour at the clinic and walked out with a two week supply of TPOXX. I was so relieved.

You have to take three pills every 12 hours, with a high fat diet. I’m eating a lot of bacon and whipped cream, which is the second best thing about this treatment. The lesions started drying out very quickly and I’m now down to just three tiny little scabs left. Only in the last couple of days have I been able to go to the bathroom without pain.

I’m still in isolation. I can’t tell you how sick of my apartment I am right now. I’m a pretty privileged person in that I have the resources necessary to order food and medicine and get it delivered to my door. I have laundry in my apartment, so I can wash my bedsheets and clothes. I know other people who are really struggling with isolation because they don’t have the situation I have.

The day after I started the treatment, 13 July, I finally got a call from a contact tracer from the department of health, who said I may have been exposed to monkeypox on 26 June. I told her I already have monkeypox, and she asked me about my symptoms. The call lasted about half an hour and she was obviously reading off a script. Then she was like, “Okay, thanks for your time, get well,” and hung up. She didn’t even ask me what contacts I’d had.

This whole thing just feels like a huge failure that should not have been allowed to happen, especially not two and half months into the outbreak. If someone like me, who has worked in sexual health for a long time, had such a hard time navigating care, I can’t imagine other people doing it. I know several people who are just sitting at home in agonizing pain because they’re not getting the support that they need.

I’m pretty worried that we’re close to the point that this is going to be another endemic disease, especially among gay men, if we haven’t passed that point already. I’m worried we’ll be stuck with it forever.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/23/i-literally-screamed-out-loud-in-pain-my-two-weeks-of-monkeypox-hell

sarahs mum said:

../cut by me master transition…/..

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/23/i-literally-screamed-out-loud-in-pain-my-two-weeks-of-monkeypox-hell

read that, explication

transition said:

sarahs mum said:

../cut by me master transition…/..

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/23/i-literally-screamed-out-loud-in-pain-my-two-weeks-of-monkeypox-hell

read that, explication

One of those times I’m glad that I’m not promiscuous.

roughbarked said:

transition said:

sarahs mum said:

../cut by me master transition…/..

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/23/i-literally-screamed-out-loud-in-pain-my-two-weeks-of-monkeypox-hell

read that, explication

One of those times I’m glad that I’m not promiscuous.

so in summary this is good news for the profit numbers of SIGA Technologies and The Economy Must Grow thank the gods that oversee us

SCIENCE said:

But, what if i’m washed in the blood of Jesus?

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

But, what if i’m washed in the blood of Jesus?

Rough Catholic priest?

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

But, what if i’m washed in the blood of Jesus?

Rough Catholic priest?

Imagine STEMocracy

Nah We Can Have These Geniuses Instead

SCIENCE said:

Imagine STEMocracy

Nah We Can Have These Geniuses Instead

few derrs in there that think consensus is science

The Planet Is Healing¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-26/macaque-monkeys-injure-42-people-in-yamaguchi-japan/101268980

The injuries have so far been largely mild, but authorities are turning to tranquilliser guns after traps they set failed to snare any of the pesky primates.

hm
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-06-cdc-deadly-outbreak-meningitis-gay.html
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-07-florida-midst-meningococcal-outbreak-meningitis.html

SCIENCE said:

hm
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-06-cdc-deadly-outbreak-meningitis-gay.html
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-07-florida-midst-meningococcal-outbreak-meningitis.html

probably worth remembering covid infection doesn’t necessarily enhance immune system competency, rather may degrade it in ways that open people up to other infections, which on a global scale with repeat infections maybe not entirely a good thing

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

hm
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-06-cdc-deadly-outbreak-meningitis-gay.html
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-07-florida-midst-meningococcal-outbreak-meningitis.html

probably worth remembering covid infection doesn’t necessarily enhance immune system competency, rather may degrade it in ways that open people up to other infections, which on a global scale with repeat infections maybe not entirely a good thing

what you mean like measles did

Imminent Fun

SCIENCE said:

Imminent Fun

Oh, no. They will have to go into lockdown!

Oh, wait, where?

Kingy said:

SCIENCE said:

Imminent Fun

Oh, no. They will have to go into lockdown!

Oh, wait, where?

chuckle

seriously what the fuck

Australia’s Chief Medical Officer has declared the increasing presence of monkeypox in the country a “communicable disease incident of national significance”.

nobody has even died from this outbreak so who gives a shit

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-28/monkey-pox-declared-a-disease-of-significance-australia/101277158

SCIENCE said:

seriously what the fuck

Australia’s Chief Medical Officer has declared the increasing presence of monkeypox in the country a “communicable disease incident of national significance”.

nobody has even died from this outbreak so who gives a shit

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-28/monkey-pox-declared-a-disease-of-significance-australia/101277158

probably an announcement they preparing to accept it as endemic, dare not inconvenience anyone that wants fly in, so bit of fire here already don’t need worry about the traffic bringing it in and starting a fire, or repeat starting fires

it’s the new way

next year it could be foot and mouth disease

might half destroy the livestock industry, tourists will probably turn vegan anyway, and tell the starving locals to do the same

it’s the new love of the prolific species that enjoys prolific travel, locals end up licking the feet of the worldists

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

seriously what the fuck

Australia’s Chief Medical Officer has declared the increasing presence of monkeypox in the country a “communicable disease incident of national significance”.

nobody has even died from this outbreak so who gives a shit

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-28/monkey-pox-declared-a-disease-of-significance-australia/101277158

probably an announcement they preparing to accept it as endemic, dare not inconvenience anyone that wants fly in, so bit of fire here already don’t need worry about the traffic bringing it in and starting a fire, or repeat starting fires

it’s the new way

next year it could be foot and mouth disease

might half destroy the livestock industry, tourists will probably turn vegan anyway, and tell the starving locals to do the same

it’s the new love of the prolific species that enjoys prolific travel, locals end up licking the feet of the worldists

Tourists returning from nations were FAMD exists should be told harden the fuck up and do these procedures at the airport or you’ll be detained until you do.

Cymek said:

Tourists returning from nations were FAMD exists should be told harden the fuck up and do these procedures at the airport or you’ll be detained until you do.

harden the what up and do what procedures, are we talking about monkeypox transmission

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02036-9

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Tourists returning from nations were FAMD exists should be told harden the fuck up and do these procedures at the airport or you’ll be detained until you do.

harden the what up and do what procedures, are we talking about monkeypox transmission

Kind of weird that a disease that is not sexually transmitted to have such a strong correlation with m2m sex. They reckon it is spread by skin contact.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Tourists returning from nations were FAMD exists should be told harden the fuck up and do these procedures at the airport or you’ll be detained until you do.

harden the what up and do what procedures, are we talking about monkeypox transmission

Kind of weird that a disease that is not sexually transmitted to have such a strong correlation with m2m sex. They reckon it is spread by skin contact.

Let’s face it gay men are sluts.

Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

harden the what up and do what procedures, are we talking about monkeypox transmission

Kind of weird that a disease that is not sexually transmitted to have such a strong correlation with m2m sex. They reckon it is spread by skin contact.

Let’s face it gay men are sluts.

Well all men if hetero men could find willing female and respect them afterwa… nah not gonna happen.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

Kind of weird that a disease that is not sexually transmitted to have such a strong correlation with m2m sex. They reckon it is spread by skin contact.

Let’s face it gay men are sluts.

Well all men if hetero men could find willing female and respect them afterwa… nah not gonna happen.

so cynical for one so young

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Tourists returning from nations were FAMD exists should be told harden the fuck up and do these procedures at the airport or you’ll be detained until you do.

harden the what up and do what procedures, are we talking about monkeypox transmission

Foot and mouth disease

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Tourists returning from nations were FAMD exists should be told harden the fuck up and do these procedures at the airport or you’ll be detained until you do.

harden the what up and do what procedures, are we talking about monkeypox transmission

Foot and mouth disease

This bit and people will get annoyed they have to do something to help stop its spread

it’s the new way

next year it could be foot and mouth disease

might half destroy the livestock industry, tourists will probably turn vegan anyway, and tell the starving locals to do the same

it’s the new love of the prolific species that enjoys prolific travel, locals end up licking the feet of the worldists

dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Tourists returning from nations were FAMD exists should be told harden the fuck up and do these procedures at the airport or you’ll be detained until you do.

harden the what up and do what procedures, are we talking about monkeypox transmission

Kind of weird that a disease that is not sexually transmitted to have such a strong correlation with m2m sex. They reckon it is spread by skin contact.

Let’s face it gay men are sluts.

Well all men if hetero men could find willing female and respect them afterwa… nah not gonna happen.

so cynical for one so young

yeah it seems a bit of semantics but so we’ll go off WHO and they have

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/sexually-transmitted-infections-

More than 30 different bacteria, viruses and parasites are known to be transmitted through sexual contact. Eight of these pathogens are linked to the greatest incidence of sexually transmitted disease. Of these, 4 are currently curable: syphilis, gonorrhoea, chlamydia and trichomoniasis. The other 4 are viral infections which are incurable: hepatitis B, herpes simplex virus (HSV or herpes), HIV and human papillomavirus (HPV).

STIs are spread predominantly by sexual contact, including vaginal, anal and oral sex. Some STIs can also be transmitted from mother-to-child during pregnancy, childbirth and breastfeeding.

A person can have an STI without showing symptoms of disease. Common symptoms of STIs include vaginal discharge, urethral discharge or burning in men, genital ulcers and abdominal pain.

so we guess the definition is kind of loose seeing as HBV and HIV will get you through used needles and in the past blood transfusions, while HSV and HPV (like monkeypox) would happily transmit by skin contact

fair to say that sex would generally involve closer, prolonged, vigorouser skin contact compared to most other interactions

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Well all men if hetero men could find willing female and respect them afterwa… nah not gonna happen.

so cynical for one so young

yeah it seems a bit of semantics but so we’ll go off WHO and they have

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/sexually-transmitted-infections-

More than 30 different bacteria, viruses and parasites are known to be transmitted through sexual contact. Eight of these pathogens are linked to the greatest incidence of sexually transmitted disease. Of these, 4 are currently curable: syphilis, gonorrhoea, chlamydia and trichomoniasis. The other 4 are viral infections which are incurable: hepatitis B, herpes simplex virus (HSV or herpes), HIV and human papillomavirus (HPV).

STIs are spread predominantly by sexual contact, including vaginal, anal and oral sex. Some STIs can also be transmitted from mother-to-child during pregnancy, childbirth and breastfeeding.

A person can have an STI without showing symptoms of disease. Common symptoms of STIs include vaginal discharge, urethral discharge or burning in men, genital ulcers and abdominal pain.

so we guess the definition is kind of loose seeing as HBV and HIV will get you through used needles and in the past blood transfusions, while HSV and HPV (like monkeypox) would happily transmit by skin contact

fair to say that sex would generally involve closer, prolonged, vigorouser skin contact compared to most other interactions

But men don’t always have sex with men, and women don’t always have sex with women, and small furry creatures from alpha Centauri don’t always have sex with small furry creatures from alpha Centauri. Yet, it is the first group that is apparently over represented…

furious said:

But men don’t always have sex with men, and women don’t always have sex with women, and small furry creatures from alpha Centauri don’t always have sex with small furry creatures from alpha Centauri. Yet, it is the first group that is apparently over represented…

we mean if you stop it at “Yet, it is the first group” then the remainder still follows hey, not like the outbreak seems to have reached equilibrium yet

ah well guess you gotta run outta men/males/nonmenstruatorsatearlytomidadulthood at some point

actually maybe they were all just bornmales identifying as female that must be it

SCIENCE said:

ah well guess you gotta run outta men/males/nonmenstruatorsatearlytomidadulthood at some point

actually maybe they were all just bornmales identifying as female that must be it

It doesn’t have to be sexually transmitted between males.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

ah well guess you gotta run outta men/males/nonmenstruatorsatearlytomidadulthood at some point

actually maybe they were all just bornmales identifying as female that must be it

It doesn’t have to be sexually transmitted between males.

does it have to be sexually transmitted

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

ah well guess you gotta run outta men/males/nonmenstruatorsatearlytomidadulthood at some point

actually maybe they were all just bornmales identifying as female that must be it

It doesn’t have to be sexually transmitted between males.

does it have to be sexually transmitted

No. It doesn’t.

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

seriously what the fuck

Australia’s Chief Medical Officer has declared the increasing presence of monkeypox in the country a “communicable disease incident of national significance”.

nobody has even died from this outbreak so who gives a shit

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-28/monkey-pox-declared-a-disease-of-significance-australia/101277158

probably an announcement they preparing to accept it as endemic, dare not inconvenience anyone that wants fly in, so bit of fire here already don’t need worry about the traffic bringing it in and starting a fire, or repeat starting fires

it’s the new love of the prolific species that enjoys prolific travel, locals end up licking the feet of the worldists

sorry we were becoming wrong

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-30/monkeypox-death-spain-europe/101284854

Spain has reported its first monkeypox related-death, in what is thought to be Europe’s first fatality from the disease.

Brazil reported earlier on Friday the first monkeypox-related death outside the African continent in the current wave of the disease.

but that’s all right, SARACAIDS-CoV is killing 1000 times as many and who gives a shit

ahahaha remember when

vaccination was all we needed and it would End The SARACAIDS-CoV Pandemic oh wait

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-31/after-covid-19-israel-gets-ready-for-monkeypox/101267786

except it wasn’t, damn oops well at least

“The most important thing when you fight an infectious disease is to prevent it,” Dr Levy said.

ah yes that would be like when we(0,1,1) tried to prevent SARACAIDS-CoV rather than burning off the dry tinder to dry out some more tinder

SCIENCE said:

ahahaha remember when

vaccination was all we needed and it would End The SARACAIDS-CoV Pandemic oh wait

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-31/after-covid-19-israel-gets-ready-for-monkeypox/101267786

except it wasn’t, damn oops well at least

“The most important thing when you fight an infectious disease is to prevent it,” Dr Levy said.

ah yes that would be like when we(0,1,1) tried to prevent SARACAIDS-CoV rather than burning off the dry tinder to dry out some more tinder

guess they did, or doing alright with covid

~9mil+ population, ~11000+ deaths, ~10% kids have or have had long covid, further 10% 18-49yo long covid, ~20% over 70yo, if what i’m looking at is right

but i’d caution that’s from self-reporting, subjective experience, related expression of mental states, experience of the home in the head, more metaphysics that some might be happy with

perhaps good enough to be a model for living with disease

transition said:

but i’d caution that’s from self-reporting, subjective experience, related expression of mental states, experience of the home in the head, more metaphysics that some might be happy with

perhaps good enough to be a model for living with disease

yeah we wonder if the work that economic units do is dependent on their subjective self reported readiness to work, imagine if how an economic unit feels on a given day determines how well they are going to work

at least none of you will find this interesting

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/monkeypox-strain-detected-in-india-not-linked-to-europe-outbreak-101659120286079.html

Monkeypox strain detected in India not linked to Europe outbreak

This A.2 strain, which has largely been found in the US and Thailand, has not been linked to major cluster or super spreader events, unlike the B.1, which has been found in large parts of Europe.

Scaria said that around the world, there are only a few cases that belong to the A.2 strain and these cases, including the ones from India, seem to all have travel links to Middle East or West Africa.

but wait, there’s more

you know how vaccination and smallpox and catching it once are meant to make you immune

SCIENCE said:

dear God where did you dig that up from

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

dear God where did you dig that up from

social media same as this

a fun crossover crossback for yous all we love this

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3068024/

Smallpox Vaccine Safety Is Dependent on T Cells and Not B Cells

did you catch that

Smallpox Vaccine Safety Is Dependent on T Cells and Not B Cells

next

SCIENCE said:

a fun crossover crossback for yous all we love this

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3068024/

Smallpox Vaccine Safety Is Dependent on T Cells and Not B Cells

did you catch that

Smallpox Vaccine Safety Is Dependent on T Cells and Not B Cells

next

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41392-022-00919-x

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

a fun crossover crossback for yous all we love this

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3068024/

Smallpox Vaccine Safety Is Dependent on T Cells and Not B Cells

did you catch that

Smallpox Vaccine Safety Is Dependent on T Cells and Not B Cells

next

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41392-022-00919-x

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lymphocytopenia
“Lymphocytopenia is the condition of having an abnormally low level of lymphocytes in the blood. Lymphocytes are a white blood cell with important functions in the immune system. It is also called lymphopenia. The opposite is lymphocytosis, which refers to an excessive level of lymphocytes.

Lymphocytopenia may be present as part of a pancytopenia, when the total numbers of all types of blood cells are reduced. “

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/01/nyregion/monkeypox-vaccine-jynneos-us.html

It’s Fattened ¡

turns out the main cause of wealth maldistribution in the world is the burden of infectious disease and the developed world have simply broadly accepted that it’s time to level the curve playing field

SCIENCE said:

It’s Fattened ¡

not a few those worldist-compensated half-brains that appear normal, they won’t mind at all the shared journey to a borderless world – internationalized disease – whatever it takes

and the propaganda – the evil – you are to forget why there are spaces between things, why things are separated by space and time, you will be recruited and deployed to eliminate those, with religious-like enthusiasm, fervor, acceleration

lolfk remember when vaccines were going to save us from COVID-19 and the Corruption government had “secured” 150000000 doses and

The Australian government has secured 450,000 third-generation vaccines for monkeypox in what it described as a “highly contested” global market for the jabs.

oh right yeah cool

SCIENCE said:

lolfk remember when vaccines were going to save us from COVID-19 and the Corruption government had “secured” 150000000 doses and

The Australian government has secured 450,000 third-generation vaccines for monkeypox in what it described as a “highly contested” global market for the jabs.

oh right yeah cool

must be expecting another plague, the masters of plague, getting the troops prepared

SCIENCE said:

lolfk remember when vaccines were going to save us from COVID-19 and the Corruption government had “secured” 150000000 doses and

The Australian government has secured 450,000 third-generation vaccines for monkeypox in what it described as a “highly contested” global market for the jabs.

oh right yeah cool

Big Brain Big Ideas

https://twitter.com/Antonio_Caramia/status/1555154082209439744

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

lolfk remember when vaccines were going to save us from COVID-19 and the Corruption government had “secured” 150000000 doses and

The Australian government has secured 450,000 third-generation vaccines for monkeypox in what it described as a “highly contested” global market for the jabs.

oh right yeah cool

Big Brain Big Ideas

https://twitter.com/Antonio_Caramia/status/1555154082209439744

dispersing another virus, with a vaccine license, I hope not

ACON

https://www.aconhealth.org.au/monkeypox

Fuck NIGERIA

we mean this is a fucking useful thing, the idiots writing about this shit are afraid that infection will harm armed forces

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/08/monkeypox-cases-in-u-s-military-climbs-tenfold-in-less-than-4-weeks/

when the reality is they will soon achieve Flock Immunity and then they will be a terror andor final solution biologically exterminating all the enemy that stand before them when war starts

looks like test saturation andor geographic spread has been achieved

In Breaking News

Internet Pornography Causes Gonorrhoea ¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-11/online-porn-rise-gonorrhoea-infections-vaccine/101315132

Laugh Out Loud

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/14/monkeypox-here-to-stay-00051560

It may be too late to stop monkeypox from circulating in the U.S. permanently.

What’s the correct response when faced with a challenge¿ Give up¡

SCIENCE said:

Laugh Out Loud

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/14/monkeypox-here-to-stay-00051560

It may be too late to stop monkeypox from circulating in the U.S. permanently.

What’s the correct response when faced with a challenge¿ Give up¡

I did reads that quickly, other than pointing out a lot of people are notionally invested (essentially ideologically committed) to making problems shared global problems, that that orientation has a trajectory of uncontainment, uncontainability about it, I have nothing much to add really

if notions want something to be global, its chances of becoming so increase

if you add globalist expansionism and contagious pathogens together then good chance they end up working together, certainly as air travel have increased in the ten years previous to 2019

if you propel mass stupid great distances, traversing the globe with ease and give them a view from ten kilometres up, you get what is likely

WHO said:

disease names shouldn’t include:

• Geographic locations
• People’s names
• Species/class of animal or food
• Cultural, population, industry or occupational references
• Terms that incite undue fear
  

the fuck

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-16/monkypox-variant-names-changed-clade/101336662

well all right but what if a species or class of animal causes the disease

or what if a genus or family or order do

what if a particular industry causes industrial disease

and we’re happy to use terms that incite due fear

SCIENCE said:

WHO said:

disease names shouldn’t include:

• Geographic locations
• People’s names
• Species/class of animal or food
• Cultural, population, industry or occupational references
• Terms that incite undue fear
  

the fuck

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-16/monkypox-variant-names-changed-clade/101336662

well all right but what if a species or class of animal causes the disease

or what if a genus or family or order do

what if a particular industry causes industrial disease

and we’re happy to use terms that incite due fear

You’d understand most of them but yes the not using an animal or species name even if they were the origin of the disease is a bit strange.

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

WHO said:

disease names shouldn’t include:

• Geographic locations
• People’s names
• Species/class of animal or food
• Cultural, population, industry or occupational references
• Terms that incite undue fear
  

the fuck

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-16/monkypox-variant-names-changed-clade/101336662

well all right but what if a species or class of animal causes the disease

or what if a genus or family or order do

what if a particular industry causes industrial disease

and we’re happy to use terms that incite due fear

You’d understand most of them but yes the not using an animal or species name even if they were the origin of the disease is a bit strange.

like should we change the name of tuberculosis

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

WHO said:

disease names shouldn’t include:

• Geographic locations
• People’s names
• Species/class of animal or food
• Cultural, population, industry or occupational references
• Terms that incite undue fear
  

the fuck

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-16/monkypox-variant-names-changed-clade/101336662

well all right but what if a species or class of animal causes the disease

or what if a genus or family or order do

what if a particular industry causes industrial disease

and we’re happy to use terms that incite due fear

You’d understand most of them but yes the not using an animal or species name even if they were the origin of the disease is a bit strange.

reckon i’ll keep calling it monkeypox, i’ll ignore the worldist fanatic’ sweeteners

When I see Monkeypox posts in By Time I keep thinking monkey skipper is posting until the truth sinks in, nanoseconds later.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-28/growth-in-monkeypox-cases-in-victoria/101380128

hehe

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/01/monkeypox-new-strain-found-uk/

that levee keeps spilling over

SCIENCE said:

hehe

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/01/monkeypox-new-strain-found-uk/

that levee keeps spilling over

the evolution, disease notionally associated with medicine, to the extent they may merge and become inseparable

¿¡WTF

SCIENCE said:

¿¡WTF

Fun in coming

Mpox is on the rise across Australia, with 152 cases recorded so far this year after only 26 in 2023. Australia is experiencing a resurgence of mpox, with infections this year surpassing the 2022 outbreak. Victoria is experiencing the largest outbreak with 83 cases. Of those, 25 per cent were reported in the last fortnight, the state’s Chief Health Officer (CHO), Clare Looker, said. In addition to vaccinations, health officials are advising people to limit their sexual partners and keep details for contact tracing.

get that normal

Professor Stuart said the virus re-emergence was likely due to the public dropping their guard, rather than a new virus strain. “There’s a fear when something new comes so it initially creates behavioural change, but like with COVID we got vaccines and then got on with our normal lives,” she said.

life on¡

It’s normal to get orthopoxvirus¡

Also fun learning for yous but

Orf is a zoonotic disease, meaning humans can contract this disorder through direct contact with infected sheep and goats or with fomites carrying the orf virus. It causes a purulent-appearing papule locally and generally no systemic symptoms. Infected locations can include the finger, hand, arm, face and even the penis (caused by infection either from contact with the hand during urination or from bestiality). Consequently, it is important to observe good personal hygiene and to wear gloves when treating infected animals. It may appear similar to cowpox and pseudocowpox.

Don’t Try This At Home With The Kids*¡

*: caprines we mean

Orf is a great Scrabble word. It’s done well for me on several occasions.

RDC: une explosion de cas de variole du singe fait plus de 400 morts et inquiète les autorités

En République démocratique du Congo (RDC), les autorités et les professionnels de la santé sont inquiets, car les cas de variole du singe, aussi appelée Mpox, sont en très forte hausse. Plus de 11 000 cas ont été recensés et 450 personnes sont décédées. Sur les 26 provinces congolaises, 25 sont touchées et la maladie se développe également au Burundi voisin, faisant craindre l’émergence d’une nouvelle souche plus mortelle de ce virus.

« Il y a une réelle inquiétude, explique le Dr Cris Kasita, chargé des opérations de riposte contre le Mpox [pour Monkey Pox, soit variole du singe) en RDC. Nous sommes à plus de 800 notifications par semaine épidémiologique de cas de Mpox. Le gouvernement a pris comme décision de mettre les moyens pour qu’ensemble, nous sachions comment stopper cette épidémie qui prend des allures exponentielles. »

Si déjà deux pays sont touchés, il faut craindre que l’épidémie s’étende au Soudan, au Soudan du Nord, au Soudan du Sud, en Centrafrique, au Congo-Brazzaville, en Angola, en Zambie et dans d’autres pays. « Sur 26 provinces, 25 sont déjà touchées en RDC », rappelle le Dr Kasita. Et l’Afrique du Sud a fait état récemment de 20 cas, dont trois mortels.

Le 11 juillet dernier, l’Organisation mondiale de la Santé (OMS) a mis en garde contre la menace pour la santé mondiale que représente la variole du singe. L’agence onusienne a exprimé son inquiétude concernant une poussée épidémique d’une nouvelle souche plus mortelle du virus en RDC.

SCIENCE said:

RDC: une explosion de cas de variole du singe fait plus de 400 morts et inquiète les autorités

En République démocratique du Congo (RDC), les autorités et les professionnels de la santé sont inquiets, car les cas de variole du singe, aussi appelée Mpox, sont en très forte hausse. Plus de 11 000 cas ont été recensés et 450 personnes sont décédées. Sur les 26 provinces congolaises, 25 sont touchées et la maladie se développe également au Burundi voisin, faisant craindre l’émergence d’une nouvelle souche plus mortelle de ce virus.

« Il y a une réelle inquiétude, explique le Dr Cris Kasita, chargé des opérations de riposte contre le Mpox

Merci beucoup.

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RDC: une explosion de cas de variole du singe fait plus de 400 morts et inquiète les autorités

En République démocratique du Congo (RDC), les autorités et les professionnels de la santé sont inquiets, car les cas de variole du singe, aussi appelée Mpox, sont en très forte hausse. Plus de 11 000 cas ont été recensés et 450 personnes sont décédées. Sur les 26 provinces congolaises, 25 sont touchées et la maladie se développe également au Burundi voisin, faisant craindre l’émergence d’une nouvelle souche plus mortelle de ce virus.

« Il y a une réelle inquiétude, explique le Dr Cris Kasita, chargé des opérations de riposte contre le Mpox (pour Monkey Pox, soit variole du singe) en RDC. Nous sommes à plus de 800 notifications par semaine épidémiologique de cas de Mpox. Le gouvernement a pris comme décision de mettre les moyens pour qu’ensemble, nous sachions comment stopper cette épidémie qui prend des allures exponentielles. »

Si déjà deux pays sont touchés, il faut craindre que l’épidémie s’étende au Soudan, au Soudan du Nord, au Soudan du Sud, en Centrafrique, au Congo-Brazzaville, en Angola, en Zambie et dans d’autres pays. « Sur 26 provinces, 25 sont déjà touchées en RDC », rappelle le Dr Kasita. Et l’Afrique du Sud a fait état récemment de 20 cas, dont trois mortels.

Le 11 juillet dernier, l’Organisation mondiale de la Santé (OMS) a mis en garde contre la menace pour la santé mondiale que représente la variole du singe. L’agence onusienne a exprimé son inquiétude concernant une poussée épidémique d’une nouvelle souche plus mortelle du virus en RDC.

Merci beaucoup.

Essayez ceci, nous avons corrigé certaines choses.

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roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

RDC: une explosion de cas de variole du singe fait plus de 400 morts et inquiète les autorités

En République démocratique du Congo (RDC), les autorités et les professionnels de la santé sont inquiets, car les cas de variole du singe, aussi appelée Mpox, sont en très forte hausse. Plus de 11 000 cas ont été recensés et 450 personnes sont décédées. Sur les 26 provinces congolaises, 25 sont touchées et la maladie se développe également au Burundi voisin, faisant craindre l’émergence d’une nouvelle souche plus mortelle de ce virus.

« Il y a une réelle inquiétude, explique le Dr Cris Kasita, chargé des opérations de riposte contre le Mpox (pour Monkey Pox, soit variole du singe) en RDC. Nous sommes à plus de 800 notifications par semaine épidémiologique de cas de Mpox. Le gouvernement a pris comme décision de mettre les moyens pour qu’ensemble, nous sachions comment stopper cette épidémie qui prend des allures exponentielles. »

Si déjà deux pays sont touchés, il faut craindre que l’épidémie s’étende au Soudan, au Soudan du Nord, au Soudan du Sud, en Centrafrique, au Congo-Brazzaville, en Angola, en Zambie et dans d’autres pays. « Sur 26 provinces, 25 sont déjà touchées en RDC », rappelle le Dr Kasita. Et l’Afrique du Sud a fait état récemment de 20 cas, dont trois mortels.

Le 11 juillet dernier, l’Organisation mondiale de la Santé (OMS) a mis en garde contre la menace pour la santé mondiale que représente la variole du singe. L’agence onusienne a exprimé son inquiétude concernant une poussée épidémique d’une nouvelle souche plus mortelle du virus en RDC.

Merci beaucoup.

Essayez ceci, nous avons corrigé certaines choses.

Think Yous Need

To Use A Different Rubber

So, get ready to Let It Rip®¡

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So, get ready to Let It Rip®¡

More a slow burn(ing sensation) than a rip.

Mpox is spreading across NSW
• 63 cases of mpox have been notified in NSW since mid-June 2024; most were acquired in NSW
• Transmission has occurred in regional NSW as well as in Sydney

poikilotherm said:

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So, get ready to Let It Rip®¡

More a slow burn(ing sensation) than a rip.

Mpox is spreading across NSW
• 63 cases of mpox have been notified in NSW since mid-June 2024; most were acquired in NSW
• Transmission has occurred in regional NSW as well as in Sydney

Is it spreading mainly in ahem particular demographics?

Witty Rejoinder said:

poikilotherm said:

SCIENCE said:

So, get ready to Let It Rip®¡

More a slow burn(ing sensation) than a rip.

Mpox is spreading across NSW
• 63 cases of mpox have been notified in NSW since mid-June 2024; most were acquired in NSW
• Transmission has occurred in regional NSW as well as in Sydney

Is it spreading mainly in ahem particular demographics?

Yes, MSM.

• EXCLUSIVE: James M has spoken out after claiming he’s still not been contacted despite testing fortnight ago

• HR manager, 35, suffered ‘really weird aches’ in his lower back, exhaustion, extreme thirst and bladder pain 

• Thinks he caught virus from one of 10 sexual partners in the weeks before his symptoms started

• UK Health Security Agency officials claim they have tried and failed to get in touch with James

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10889789/Pictured-monkeypox-patient-public-gay-HR-manager-London.html

First monkeypox patient to go public is a gay HR manager from London who was deported from Dubai just weeks ago for testing positive for HIV – and he claims he STILL hasn’t been contact traced

Its a disease spread amongst gay men and closets

Sexual diseases are more prevalent amongst gays because

1 they have more sex with strangers – much more

2 the anus isn’t designed to be penetrated, the lining in the anus is thin and easily damaged. The vagina is designed for penetration. Anal sex damages anus, damages the whole thing.

Ever had constipation ? – now imagine something coming back into you.

Anyway – that’s their bag

I’d assume anal sex must cause some bleeding

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now do other continents

Nah

it’s only interesting here because they just called a state of emergency due to the increase of this disease..

We said…

The World Health Organisation declared the mpox outbreaks in Congo and elsewhere in Africa a global emergency on Wednesday, with cases confirmed among children and adults in more than a dozen countries and a new form of the virus spreading. Few vaccine doses are available on the continent.

Earlier this week, the Africa Centres for Disease Control and Prevention announced that the mpox outbreaks were a public health emergency, with more than 500 deaths, and called for international help to stop the virus’ spread.

Ah well time to LOL¡

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Arts said:

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Nah

it’s only interesting here because they just called a state of emergency due to the increase of this disease..

We said…

The World Health Organisation declared the mpox outbreaks in Congo and elsewhere in Africa a global emergency on Wednesday, with cases confirmed among children and adults in more than a dozen countries and a new form of the virus spreading. Few vaccine doses are available on the continent.

Earlier this week, the Africa Centres for Disease Control and Prevention announced that the mpox outbreaks were a public health emergency, with more than 500 deaths, and called for international help to stop the virus’ spread.

Ah well time to LOL¡

LOL

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2024-08-15/mpox-global-health-emergency-what-we-know-so-far/104226220

LOL Let’s Do It Now

Xenophobic Authoritarian ASIAN Police State Overreacts Again ¡

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Xenophobic Authoritarian ASIAN Police State Overreacts Again ¡

Fuck China.

the black swan will gore them with its red beak

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Xenophobic Authoritarian ASIAN Police State Overreacts Again ¡

Fuck China.

the black swan will gore them with its red beak

Lies Dirty CHINA Does Not Follow The International Rules Based Order Unlike Everyone Else Wait

The North Won The War And Now They’re All Communists

SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

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Xenophobic Authoritarian ASIAN Police State Overreacts Again ¡

Fuck China.

the black swan will gore them with its red beak

Lies Dirty CHINA Does Not Follow The International Rules Based Order Unlike Everyone Else Wait

The North Won The War And Now They’re All Communists

Phillipinos are being warned that Mpox is there and they need to take precautions.

LOL

ahahahahahahahahahaha

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ahahahahahahahahahaha

also fun

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ahahahahahahahahahaha

also fun

RCR

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ahahahahahahahahahaha

also fun

RCR

boom

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also fun

RCR

boom

boom boom