Late start

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dv said:

Late start

Cold engine?

dv said:

Late start

Ah it’s now June, I forgot. And it’s even my birthday in a couple of days*, I’m always forgetting that.

* Friday 3rd June (BUBBLECAR’S BIRTHDAY)

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Wow! It works too. Thanks.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

Late start

Cold engine?

Advance the spark.

dv said:

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I’ve just started going through that line by line, line by line.
I’ll see you guys in the spring or there abouts.

World’s largest plant discovered right under our noses in Western Australia

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2022-06-01/worlds-largest-plant-seagrass-meadow-shark-bay-giant-clone/101112726

sarahs mum said:

World’s largest plant discovered right under our noses in Western Australia

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2022-06-01/worlds-largest-plant-seagrass-meadow-shark-bay-giant-clone/101112726

Impressive and worth a thread.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

World’s largest plant discovered right under our noses in Western Australia

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2022-06-01/worlds-largest-plant-seagrass-meadow-shark-bay-giant-clone/101112726

Impressive and worth a thread.

Holy shit

https://youtu.be/2bNrqWsH_kw
Nice side burn on Musk though

“The Australian economy grew 0.8 per cent in the March quarter and 3.3 over the past year, according to official GDP figures from the ABS.
Economists had typically been expecting quarterly growth of 0.5 per cent and 2.9 per cent over the year to March 31.”

Praise the Lord.

Ken the postman has just delivered the new living room speakers.

In the end I ordered slightly more powerful ones than the bedroom speakers.

Bubblecar said:

Ken the postman has just delivered the new living room speakers.

In the end I ordered slightly more powerful ones than the bedroom speakers.

Blast

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

Ken the postman has just delivered the new living room speakers.

In the end I ordered slightly more powerful ones than the bedroom speakers.

Blast

“Queensland has been rattled by a magnitude 3.0 earthquake which was felt just north of Brisbane.
The quake hit Brendale in the Moreton Bay region at about 1.25pm on Tuesday, according to Geoscience.”

It’s all over the news, one woman was almost in tears as she described how some of the windows rattled at one stage.

Peak Warming Man said:

“Queensland has been rattled by a magnitude 3.0 earthquake which was felt just north of Brisbane.
The quake hit Brendale in the Moreton Bay region at about 1.25pm on Tuesday, according to Geoscience.”

It’s all over the news, one woman was almost in tears as she described how some of the windows rattled at one stage.

She should have expected it.

Of course the Lord is going to rattle Queenslander windows if they go around voting Green.

Sarah’s mum’s retirement plan

dv said:

Sarah’s mum’s retirement plan

Heh.

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

“Queensland has been rattled by a magnitude 3.0 earthquake which was felt just north of Brisbane.
The quake hit Brendale in the Moreton Bay region at about 1.25pm on Tuesday, according to Geoscience.”

It’s all over the news, one woman was almost in tears as she described how some of the windows rattled at one stage.

She should have expected it.

Of course the Lord is going to rattle Queenslander windows if they go around voting Green.

Symptoms are short term, after being treated with a dose of common sense and a course of reality patients are reported to make a full recovery.

dv said:

Sarah’s mum’s retirement plan

I was woken this morning earlyish by brett’s schizophrenic sister who had made a mistake dialling on her telephone. She asked what I had been doing and I told her…sleeping. I asked if she could ring back another time and she said yes. And I went back to bed.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Sarah’s mum’s retirement plan

I was woken this morning earlyish by brett’s schizophrenic sister who had made a mistake dialling on her telephone. She asked what I had been doing and I told her…sleeping. I asked if she could ring back another time and she said yes. And I went back to bed.

Well there you go

I could eat

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Sarah’s mum’s retirement plan

I was woken this morning earlyish by brett’s schizophrenic sister who had made a mistake dialling on her telephone. She asked what I had been doing and I told her…sleeping. I asked if she could ring back another time and she said yes. And I went back to bed.

Well there you go

I suppose I should have been more receptive to the call. It has been years.

transition said:

I could eat

OK I’ll go first.
A horse?

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

I could eat

OK I’ll go first.
A horse?

hope there’s not horse in the party pies, but I wouldn’t notice likely

transition said:

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

I could eat

OK I’ll go first.
A horse?

hope there’s not horse in the party pies, but I wouldn’t notice likely

What’s the legal situation with eating party pies when you’re not actually having a party?

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

Peak Warming Man said:

OK I’ll go first.
A horse?

hope there’s not horse in the party pies, but I wouldn’t notice likely

What’s the legal situation with eating party pies when you’re not actually having a party?

Or wearing party pants.

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

Peak Warming Man said:

OK I’ll go first.
A horse?

hope there’s not horse in the party pies, but I wouldn’t notice likely

What’s the legal situation with eating party pies when you’re not actually having a party?

yeah didn’t check that, though’s close enough your birthday, i’ll call it car’s birthday party

I’m back. Meat is all freezered. I may have bought quite a bit of meat. But then we hadn’t done a meat run for about 7 weeks. All that was left of the last lot was a few sausages and 3 packets of mince (250g each). Now we have choice again. There is a rolled lamb roast. T bones. Pork chops. Lamb chops. Pork schnitzels. Chicken schnitzels. And some other stuff.

buffy said:

I’m back. Meat is all freezered. I may have bought quite a bit of meat. But then we hadn’t done a meat run for about 7 weeks. All that was left of the last lot was a few sausages and 3 packets of mince (250g each). Now we have choice again. There is a rolled lamb roast. T bones. Pork chops. Lamb chops. Pork schnitzels. Chicken schnitzels. And some other stuff.

I’m thinking tonight you’ll have a T-bone each.

dv said:

Sarah’s mum’s retirement plan

:)

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

I could eat

OK I’ll go first.
A horse?

Plenty of them here in the state forest. Fat and shiny. I’d tuck in. But it’s illegal.

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

I could eat

OK I’ll go first.
A horse?

Plenty of them here in the state forest. Fat and shiny. I’d tuck in. But it’s illegal.

I have been told that old horse is better eating than young horse. Unlike other animals.

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

transition said:

I could eat

OK I’ll go first.
A horse?

Plenty of them here in the state forest. Fat and shiny. I’d tuck in. But it’s illegal.

Horses for courses??

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

OK I’ll go first.
A horse?

Plenty of them here in the state forest. Fat and shiny. I’d tuck in. But it’s illegal.

I have been told that old horse is better eating than young horse. Unlike other animals.

Huh!

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

I’m back. Meat is all freezered. I may have bought quite a bit of meat. But then we hadn’t done a meat run for about 7 weeks. All that was left of the last lot was a few sausages and 3 packets of mince (250g each). Now we have choice again. There is a rolled lamb roast. T bones. Pork chops. Lamb chops. Pork schnitzels. Chicken schnitzels. And some other stuff.

I’m thinking tonight you’ll have a T-bone each.

No, they are out in the chest freezer. Tonight is archery, so we pick up some takeaway in Hamilton about 6.30pm. Archery is 5.30 – 6.30ish. I will probably have a piece of butterfish and a plain and a sweet potato cake. Mr buffy may have the same, or a souvlaki.

Woodie said:

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

OK I’ll go first.
A horse?

Plenty of them here in the state forest. Fat and shiny. I’d tuck in. But it’s illegal.

Horses for courses??

:)

Ordering this book by Australian novelist Anthony O’Neill, gets very good reviews.

By way of a sequel to The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

Seems everyone’s gone back to May.

Bubblecar said:

Ordering this book by Australian novelist Anthony O’Neill, gets very good reviews.

By way of a sequel to The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

nice cover work

A pinch and a punch… etc

party_pants said:

A pinch and a punch… etc

sorf

party_pants said:

A pinch and a punch… etc

Time certainly flies. Seems like just yesterday it was still May.

dv said:

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and updated

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/01/extinction-obituary-bramble-cay-melomys-climate-change-aoe

Good morning Holidayers. We have minus one and there is a bit of frost. Not impressive frost, but frost. I had a minor sleep in.

Here.

dv said:

Here.

?

Michael V said:

dv said:

Here.

?

Trying to drag y’all into the month of June…

dv said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

Here.

?

Trying to drag y’all into the month of June…

Ah, I see. Thanks.

I’ll move over here now. I don’t seem to have achieved much this morning. I rekindled the woodheater, and moved a couple of barrowloads of wood from the shed to the back door pile. Refreshed my kindling box. Went to the bakery for a mocha and brought back a large foccacia and a couple of vanilla slices for lunch. Then made an updated list of Mr buffy’s medications. I never quite know what he is taking and I probably should. I have just told him that he is taking 10 different medications I’m going to rename him Mr Polypharmacy.

Now I should write a letter to Mum. They’ve got yet another positive resident, so still shut to visitors.

Moving to June:
Dark Orange said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Dark Orange said:

Same as Australia, as far as I know – the defamer has to prove their accusations.

The question is though, what is considered proof?

Apparently it can’t be to the same level as in criminal cases, or the claimant would have to prove that they didn’t do what was alleged beyond reasonable doubt, which in most cases would be impossible.

Pretty much the same as a criminal case, at least here in Oz. Interestingly, if a newspaper refers to a person as a murderer/rapist/etc the accused can claim defamation and easily win. If a court later finds the accused actually guilty of the accusation, the defamation case is not reversed as it was defamation at the time.

ref: some journalism lectures I sat in on many years ago.

But that’s the opposite of criminal cases.
In a criminal case the defendent just needs to show that there is a reasonable possibility they didn’t do it.
You are saying that in a defamation case the defendent must prove that what they alleged is true beyond reasonable doubt, so the onus of proof is on the defendent.

Let’s now think about poor Johnny and what he’s been through all these years and hope he gets just compensation.

Peak Warming Man said:

Let’s now think about poor Johnny and what he’s been through all these years and hope he gets just compensation.

As you may have guessed, I have indeed been thinking about poor Johnny.

Still cold here. I just checked..7 degrees. Which I suppose is better than the minus one we had at 8.00am.

buffy said:

Still cold here. I just checked..7 degrees. Which I suppose is better than the minus one we had at 8.00am.

Those remaining “freedom!” protestors camping out in Canberra must be feeling great

(Sympathy Factor:nil)

buffy said:

Still cold here. I just checked..7 degrees. Which I suppose is better than the minus one we had at 8.00am.

reminded me I need get reacquainted with the ax today, there’s some good stuff out there, satisfying to cut, solid but cracks open easy enough, they more flattish but wide

be a perfect way to limber up

if someone could insult me I could deploy some adrenaline, get the job done more enthusiastically

require a profession so reckon i’ll have to insult my self

transition said:

buffy said:

Still cold here. I just checked..7 degrees. Which I suppose is better than the minus one we had at 8.00am.

reminded me I need get reacquainted with the ax today, there’s some good stuff out there, satisfying to cut, solid but cracks open easy enough, they more flattish but wide

be a perfect way to lumber up

Aye.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Moving to June:
Dark Orange said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

The question is though, what is considered proof?

Apparently it can’t be to the same level as in criminal cases, or the claimant would have to prove that they didn’t do what was alleged beyond reasonable doubt, which in most cases would be impossible.

Pretty much the same as a criminal case, at least here in Oz. Interestingly, if a newspaper refers to a person as a murderer/rapist/etc the accused can claim defamation and easily win. If a court later finds the accused actually guilty of the accusation, the defamation case is not reversed as it was defamation at the time.

ref: some journalism lectures I sat in on many years ago.

But that’s the opposite of criminal cases.
In a criminal case the defendent just needs to show that there is a reasonable possibility they didn’t do it.
You are saying that in a defamation case the defendent must prove that what they alleged is true beyond reasonable doubt, so the onus of proof is on the defendent.

I am saying that the entity making the accusations (a person, a company, the crown) needs to be able to prove their claims beyond reasonable doubt.

BACK and innocularised against the influenzas.

And it’s virtually my birthday so I might as well pour a pint of Norwegian beer.

Lunch will be a couple of lamb sausages + Birds Eye roast potatoes (rosemary & garlic).

dv said:

He’s exaggerating, I can tell.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

He’s exaggerating, I can tell.

George Bush’s dong I reckon

Hot chocolate, hot chocolate, drinking chocolate, drinking chocolate……………………….

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

He’s exaggerating, I can tell.

George Bush’s dong I reckon

Trump’s imaginary concertina

Neophyte said:

buffy said:

Still cold here. I just checked..7 degrees. Which I suppose is better than the minus one we had at 8.00am.

Those remaining “freedom!” protestors camping out in Canberra must be feeling great

(Sympathy Factor:nil)

One of Mr buffy’s friends has gone down that path, even trekking from Melbourne to Canberra over Easter. He’s gone very quiet on his Facebook lately though.

Got the batteries for my exercise bike’s onboard computer, so now I can keep tabs on the SCAN, TIME, SPD, DST, CAL, ODO and PULSE.

How are the injuries today sarahs mum?

Peak Warming Man said:

Hot chocolate, hot chocolate, drinking chocolate, drinking chocolate……………………….

My boy likes hot white chocolate

Bubblecar said:

How are the injuries today sarahs mum?

dunno. I had a mersyndol last night and i did sleep sort of okay. i haven’t rebandaged but i can see bruising lurking on the edge. everything is mobile. less pain but stll pain.

Lunch report: There was one pork sausage leftover from the meatloaf I made the other day. So I’ve chopped it up and wokked it, added tomato warmed through and a fried egg. There will also be a bit of garlic focaccia after I’ve eaten that lot.

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Hot chocolate, hot chocolate, drinking chocolate, drinking chocolate……………………….

My boy likes hot white chocolate

no such thing as white chocolate. it is just sweet white fat.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

How are the injuries today sarahs mum?

dunno. I had a mersyndol last night and i did sleep sort of okay. i haven’t rebandaged but i can see bruising lurking on the edge. everything is mobile. less pain but stll pain.

Less pain is progress, goodo.

sm if it isn’t an imposition I can organise someone to pop out and give you a medical check, see whether you need to go to hospital?

Boris said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Hot chocolate, hot chocolate, drinking chocolate, drinking chocolate……………………….

My boy likes hot white chocolate

no such thing as white chocolate. it is just sweet white fat.

And what plant did that fat come from…

dv said:

Boris said:

dv said:

My boy likes hot white chocolate

no such thing as white chocolate. it is just sweet white fat.

And what plant did that fat come from…

the cacao plant. which you may notice isn’t called the chocolate plant.

dv said:

sm if it isn’t an imposition I can organise someone to pop out and give you a medical check, see whether you need to go to hospital?

you’re nice. so nice.

but i think i will mend. If not I will get richard to look at it.

I do want to avoid the hospital if i can. covid and all. I do have an appointment with my doctor next week but we are meeting in the garden.

Boris said:

dv said:

Boris said:

no such thing as white chocolate. it is just sweet white fat.

And what plant did that fat come from…

the cacao plant. which you may notice isn’t called the chocolate plant.

I’m a man of boundless patience but you’ve had like a hundred years to register your complaints

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

sm if it isn’t an imposition I can organise someone to pop out and give you a medical check, see whether you need to go to hospital?

you’re nice. so nice.

but i think i will mend. If not I will get richard to look at it.

I do want to avoid the hospital if i can. covid and all. I do have an appointment with my doctor next week but we are meeting in the garden.

Well that’s good.
I don’t think I have a clear idea of how far from civilisation you are.

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

sm if it isn’t an imposition I can organise someone to pop out and give you a medical check, see whether you need to go to hospital?

you’re nice. so nice.

but i think i will mend. If not I will get richard to look at it.

I do want to avoid the hospital if i can. covid and all. I do have an appointment with my doctor next week but we are meeting in the garden.

Well that’s good.
I don’t think I have a clear idea of how far from civilisation you are.

300 metres to Janina. 5k to the medical centre and shop. 35 minutes to Hobbit and an xray.

dv said:

Boris said:

dv said:

And what plant did that fat come from…

the cacao plant. which you may notice isn’t called the chocolate plant.

I’m a man of boundless patience but you’ve had like a hundred years to register your complaints

1988 has it right. most lovers of chocolate don’t consider white to be true chocolate. the butter really doesn’t have the chocolate taste. my boss at the MR Choc Factory used to say, if you liked you’re mother’s milk you’d like white chocolate. Mind you mother’s milk was probably less vanillary.

Boris said:

dv said:

Boris said:

the cacao plant. which you may notice isn’t called the chocolate plant.

I’m a man of boundless patience but you’ve had like a hundred years to register your complaints

1988 has it right. most lovers of chocolate don’t consider white to be true chocolate. the butter really doesn’t have the chocolate taste. my boss at the MR Choc Factory used to say, if you liked you’re mother’s milk you’d like white chocolate. Mind you mother’s milk was probably less vanillary.

I’m not a lover of chocolate but I am a descriptivist

dv said:

Boris said:

dv said:

I’m a man of boundless patience but you’ve had like a hundred years to register your complaints

1988 has it right. most lovers of chocolate don’t consider white to be true chocolate. the butter really doesn’t have the chocolate taste. my boss at the MR Choc Factory used to say, if you liked you’re mother’s milk you’d like white chocolate. Mind you mother’s milk was probably less vanillary.

I’m not a lover of chocolate but I am a descriptivist

After 4 years at a choc fact I can take it or leave it. I am a stirrer.

bandage off. uite a lot of bruising on the backof my hand. not so much around wrist. but gravel rash under wrist.

but I have seen worse (knee is more bruised)) and i do bruise easily. I’m going to bind t up again.

Robert Hughes to be deported to England, hopes to revive his career in the new series “Bye Dad”

sarahs mum said:

bandage off. uite a lot of bruising on the backof my hand. not so much around wrist. but gravel rash under wrist.

but I have seen worse (knee is more bruised)) and i do bruise easily. I’m going to bind t up again.

What happened sm?

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

bandage off. uite a lot of bruising on the backof my hand. not so much around wrist. but gravel rash under wrist.

but I have seen worse (knee is more bruised)) and i do bruise easily. I’m going to bind t up again.

What happened sm?

had a tumble

my eyes are slightly less better than they were six years ago… but the optometrist said that everything else is healthy as, and they haven’t really degraded as much as ‘average’ so pretty ok with it… I did pick out new frames and sunnies though… I’ll see them in two weeks.

Arts said:

my eyes are slightly less better than they were six years ago… but the optometrist said that everything else is healthy as, and they haven’t really degraded as much as ‘average’ so pretty ok with it… I did pick out new frames and sunnies though… I’ll see them in two weeks.

Did you choose from the Dame Edna or Sir Elton John range ?

Great night, every Scottish supporter was given a Ukrainian flag to wave and all the Scottish supporters sang the Ukrainian national anthem and. then Scotland let them win 3-1

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

bandage off. uite a lot of bruising on the backof my hand. not so much around wrist. but gravel rash under wrist.

but I have seen worse (knee is more bruised)) and i do bruise easily. I’m going to bind t up again.

What happened sm?

had a tumble

Bugger. I hope you heal soon.

Arts said:

my eyes are slightly less better than they were six years ago… but the optometrist said that everything else is healthy as, and they haven’t really degraded as much as ‘average’ so pretty ok with it… I did pick out new frames and sunnies though… I’ll see them in two weeks.

did they run the full gamut of tests? look up, look up left, look left etc? Plus the little red lights and balloon.

Peak Warming Man said:

Great night, every Scottish supporter was given a Ukrainian flag to wave and all the Scottish supporters sang the Ukrainian national anthem and. then Scotland let them win 3-1

Following the match information has emerged that Scotland offered to send 1,000 football hooligans armed with bagpipes to Ukraine to help in that country’s fight against Russia. Speaking on behalf of the Scottish Hagas Legion, Lt Cmdr Fergus MacAngus said that the offer had been made in early April of this year. Earlier today the Ukrainian ambassador to Scotland thanked the Scottish people but rejected the offer, saying “Look, we hate the Russians and will do almost anything to chase them out of our country, but we are not monsters”.

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

bandage off. uite a lot of bruising on the backof my hand. not so much around wrist. but gravel rash under wrist.

but I have seen worse (knee is more bruised)) and i do bruise easily. I’m going to bind t up again.

What happened sm?

had a tumble

Hope you get well soon, sm.

Coulda been worse though, you could have “Had a fall”.

Luckily, you’re not old enough.

Cymek said:

Arts said:

my eyes are slightly less better than they were six years ago… but the optometrist said that everything else is healthy as, and they haven’t really degraded as much as ‘average’ so pretty ok with it… I did pick out new frames and sunnies though… I’ll see them in two weeks.

Did you choose from the Dame Edna or Sir Elton John range ?

I rejected a pair because they gave me Jeff Dahmer vibes… probs not a good selection for my line of work

Boris said:

Arts said:

my eyes are slightly less better than they were six years ago… but the optometrist said that everything else is healthy as, and they haven’t really degraded as much as ‘average’ so pretty ok with it… I did pick out new frames and sunnies though… I’ll see them in two weeks.

did they run the full gamut of tests? look up, look up left, look left etc? Plus the little red lights and balloon.

little red light and balloon and puff of air then what does the bottom line say then they change the lens and I realise it was a v and not a k

Arts said:

Boris said:

Arts said:

my eyes are slightly less better than they were six years ago… but the optometrist said that everything else is healthy as, and they haven’t really degraded as much as ‘average’ so pretty ok with it… I did pick out new frames and sunnies though… I’ll see them in two weeks.

did they run the full gamut of tests? look up, look up left, look left etc? Plus the little red lights and balloon.

little red light and balloon and puff of air then what does the bottom line say then they change the lens and I realise it was a v and not a k

after every test they tell you “that’s really good’ but you find out you fucked up a v/k scenario which is less than good. so they liars

Arts said:

Cymek said:

Arts said:

my eyes are slightly less better than they were six years ago… but the optometrist said that everything else is healthy as, and they haven’t really degraded as much as ‘average’ so pretty ok with it… I did pick out new frames and sunnies though… I’ll see them in two weeks.

Did you choose from the Dame Edna or Sir Elton John range ?

I rejected a pair because they gave me Jeff Dahmer vibes… probs not a good selection for my line of work

Do they still make the frames with the bit of Elastoplast across the bridge part?

Boris said:

Arts said:

my eyes are slightly less better than they were six years ago… but the optometrist said that everything else is healthy as, and they haven’t really degraded as much as ‘average’ so pretty ok with it… I did pick out new frames and sunnies though… I’ll see them in two weeks.

did they run the full gamut of tests? look up, look up left, look left etc? Plus the little red lights and balloon.

Hang on, I read that before and I’ve thought about it while I swept some floors and babied the washing machine through a spin cycle with a heavy mat in it…

Two weeks? That is worse than what we were doing in 1981 when I started as an optometrist. Your sunglasses are not some high powered difficult prescription or a multifocal, I would presume? We kept a full stock of standard lenses on the premises and the dispenser cut them to the frame you chose. If things were going smoothly and we didn’t have to get larger lenses (this was the 1980s, when frames were BIG, so that sometimes you did have to get lenses ground to be big enough for the frames) glasses could be made up for same day pickup (in an emergency) or next day or two for general jobs. Bifocals were a week, because they had to be ground, sent to us and then fitted to the frame. Multifocals were just beginning, but they only took a week also. Surely with all the computerized stuff now two weeks is silly. These days once you have chosen your frame, the practice sends the details of prescription and frame through by computer, the lenses are picked from the stocks or ground as required, cut and sent out to the practice where they are popped into the frame. That really shouldn’t take 2 weeks.

Arts said:

Arts said:

Boris said:

did they run the full gamut of tests? look up, look up left, look left etc? Plus the little red lights and balloon.

little red light and balloon and puff of air then what does the bottom line say then they change the lens and I realise it was a v and not a k

after every test they tell you “that’s really good’ but you find out you fucked up a v/k scenario which is less than good. so they liars

Once you knew me, you worked out that if I said it was good it was good. If I didn’t say anything and just offered another option…you got it wrong. I don’t recall ever telling anyone they got it wrong…there is no wrong. You can either see it or you can’t and that is what I needed to know.

:)

buffy said:

Boris said:

Arts said:

my eyes are slightly less better than they were six years ago… but the optometrist said that everything else is healthy as, and they haven’t really degraded as much as ‘average’ so pretty ok with it… I did pick out new frames and sunnies though… I’ll see them in two weeks.

did they run the full gamut of tests? look up, look up left, look left etc? Plus the little red lights and balloon.

Hang on, I read that before and I’ve thought about it while I swept some floors and babied the washing machine through a spin cycle with a heavy mat in it…

Two weeks? That is worse than what we were doing in 1981 when I started as an optometrist. Your sunglasses are not some high powered difficult prescription or a multifocal, I would presume? We kept a full stock of standard lenses on the premises and the dispenser cut them to the frame you chose. If things were going smoothly and we didn’t have to get larger lenses (this was the 1980s, when frames were BIG, so that sometimes you did have to get lenses ground to be big enough for the frames) glasses could be made up for same day pickup (in an emergency) or next day or two for general jobs. Bifocals were a week, because they had to be ground, sent to us and then fitted to the frame. Multifocals were just beginning, but they only took a week also. Surely with all the computerized stuff now two weeks is silly. These days once you have chosen your frame, the practice sends the details of prescription and frame through by computer, the lenses are picked from the stocks or ground as required, cut and sent out to the practice where they are popped into the frame. That really shouldn’t take 2 weeks.

Could it be some lurk like ‘clearing a cheque’ at the bank, where they take your money, invest it, get some interest on it for umpteen days, and then, reluctantly, pass it on to wherever it needs to actually go? Something of that ilk?

I have to say it is amusing when I go for my own eye checks. Fortunately the guy doing mine for me uses a different chart from the ones I had recited to me multiple times a day for years. I don’t actually know the letter order on his chart.

Arts said:

Arts said:

Boris said:

did they run the full gamut of tests? look up, look up left, look left etc? Plus the little red lights and balloon.

little red light and balloon and puff of air then what does the bottom line say then they change the lens and I realise it was a v and not a k

after every test they tell you “that’s really good’ but you find out you fucked up a v/k scenario which is less than good. so they liars

no.. what they mean is “that’s really good (we’re about to make some serious coin)….”

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

Boris said:

did they run the full gamut of tests? look up, look up left, look left etc? Plus the little red lights and balloon.

Hang on, I read that before and I’ve thought about it while I swept some floors and babied the washing machine through a spin cycle with a heavy mat in it…

Two weeks? That is worse than what we were doing in 1981 when I started as an optometrist. Your sunglasses are not some high powered difficult prescription or a multifocal, I would presume? We kept a full stock of standard lenses on the premises and the dispenser cut them to the frame you chose. If things were going smoothly and we didn’t have to get larger lenses (this was the 1980s, when frames were BIG, so that sometimes you did have to get lenses ground to be big enough for the frames) glasses could be made up for same day pickup (in an emergency) or next day or two for general jobs. Bifocals were a week, because they had to be ground, sent to us and then fitted to the frame. Multifocals were just beginning, but they only took a week also. Surely with all the computerized stuff now two weeks is silly. These days once you have chosen your frame, the practice sends the details of prescription and frame through by computer, the lenses are picked from the stocks or ground as required, cut and sent out to the practice where they are popped into the frame. That really shouldn’t take 2 weeks.

Could it be some lurk like ‘clearing a cheque’ at the bank, where they take your money, invest it, get some interest on it for umpteen days, and then, reluctantly, pass it on to wherever it needs to actually go? Something of that ilk?

LOL, really? Mine didn’t even need the full amount up front.

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

Boris said:

did they run the full gamut of tests? look up, look up left, look left etc? Plus the little red lights and balloon.

Hang on, I read that before and I’ve thought about it while I swept some floors and babied the washing machine through a spin cycle with a heavy mat in it…

Two weeks? That is worse than what we were doing in 1981 when I started as an optometrist. Your sunglasses are not some high powered difficult prescription or a multifocal, I would presume? We kept a full stock of standard lenses on the premises and the dispenser cut them to the frame you chose. If things were going smoothly and we didn’t have to get larger lenses (this was the 1980s, when frames were BIG, so that sometimes you did have to get lenses ground to be big enough for the frames) glasses could be made up for same day pickup (in an emergency) or next day or two for general jobs. Bifocals were a week, because they had to be ground, sent to us and then fitted to the frame. Multifocals were just beginning, but they only took a week also. Surely with all the computerized stuff now two weeks is silly. These days once you have chosen your frame, the practice sends the details of prescription and frame through by computer, the lenses are picked from the stocks or ground as required, cut and sent out to the practice where they are popped into the frame. That really shouldn’t take 2 weeks.

Could it be some lurk like ‘clearing a cheque’ at the bank, where they take your money, invest it, get some interest on it for umpteen days, and then, reluctantly, pass it on to wherever it needs to actually go? Something of that ilk?

Dunno, just sounds like a poor system to me. My little practice managed one week turnaround on multifocals with none of the computerized bells and whistles. After I wrote a script for someone and they picked their frames, Chris faxed (yes, faxed) the script and frame details to a little grind lab in Northern Tasmania. Bruce then put it into his pile of jobs and began the lens grinding process. In the meantime we put all the day’s frames into a box with a copy of what we had faxed attached to each one and posted them. By the time they got to him about 2 days later, the lenses were ready on his bench, he cut them to the frame, fitted them, checked them and sent us back a box of jobs each day. We then checked the scripts again (he rarely made mistakes, but quality control…), phoned the patient and they came in to pick up. Most stuff was done inside a week.

Boris said:

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

Hang on, I read that before and I’ve thought about it while I swept some floors and babied the washing machine through a spin cycle with a heavy mat in it…

Two weeks? That is worse than what we were doing in 1981 when I started as an optometrist. Your sunglasses are not some high powered difficult prescription or a multifocal, I would presume? We kept a full stock of standard lenses on the premises and the dispenser cut them to the frame you chose. If things were going smoothly and we didn’t have to get larger lenses (this was the 1980s, when frames were BIG, so that sometimes you did have to get lenses ground to be big enough for the frames) glasses could be made up for same day pickup (in an emergency) or next day or two for general jobs. Bifocals were a week, because they had to be ground, sent to us and then fitted to the frame. Multifocals were just beginning, but they only took a week also. Surely with all the computerized stuff now two weeks is silly. These days once you have chosen your frame, the practice sends the details of prescription and frame through by computer, the lenses are picked from the stocks or ground as required, cut and sent out to the practice where they are popped into the frame. That really shouldn’t take 2 weeks.

Could it be some lurk like ‘clearing a cheque’ at the bank, where they take your money, invest it, get some interest on it for umpteen days, and then, reluctantly, pass it on to wherever it needs to actually go? Something of that ilk?

LOL, really? Mine didn’t even need the full amount up front.

I was just brain -storming there – at least to the extent that my faculties allow.

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

Hang on, I read that before and I’ve thought about it while I swept some floors and babied the washing machine through a spin cycle with a heavy mat in it…

Two weeks? That is worse than what we were doing in 1981 when I started as an optometrist. Your sunglasses are not some high powered difficult prescription or a multifocal, I would presume? We kept a full stock of standard lenses on the premises and the dispenser cut them to the frame you chose. If things were going smoothly and we didn’t have to get larger lenses (this was the 1980s, when frames were BIG, so that sometimes you did have to get lenses ground to be big enough for the frames) glasses could be made up for same day pickup (in an emergency) or next day or two for general jobs. Bifocals were a week, because they had to be ground, sent to us and then fitted to the frame. Multifocals were just beginning, but they only took a week also. Surely with all the computerized stuff now two weeks is silly. These days once you have chosen your frame, the practice sends the details of prescription and frame through by computer, the lenses are picked from the stocks or ground as required, cut and sent out to the practice where they are popped into the frame. That really shouldn’t take 2 weeks.

Could it be some lurk like ‘clearing a cheque’ at the bank, where they take your money, invest it, get some interest on it for umpteen days, and then, reluctantly, pass it on to wherever it needs to actually go? Something of that ilk?

Dunno, just sounds like a poor system to me. My little practice managed one week turnaround on multifocals with none of the computerized bells and whistles. After I wrote a script for someone and they picked their frames, Chris faxed (yes, faxed) the script and frame details to a little grind lab in Northern Tasmania. Bruce then put it into his pile of jobs and began the lens grinding process. In the meantime we put all the day’s frames into a box with a copy of what we had faxed attached to each one and posted them. By the time they got to him about 2 days later, the lenses were ready on his bench, he cut them to the frame, fitted them, checked them and sent us back a box of jobs each day. We then checked the scripts again (he rarely made mistakes, but quality control…), phoned the patient and they came in to pick up. Most stuff was done inside a week.

Mine took a couple of weeks.

Boris said:

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

Hang on, I read that before and I’ve thought about it while I swept some floors and babied the washing machine through a spin cycle with a heavy mat in it…

Two weeks? That is worse than what we were doing in 1981 when I started as an optometrist. Your sunglasses are not some high powered difficult prescription or a multifocal, I would presume? We kept a full stock of standard lenses on the premises and the dispenser cut them to the frame you chose. If things were going smoothly and we didn’t have to get larger lenses (this was the 1980s, when frames were BIG, so that sometimes you did have to get lenses ground to be big enough for the frames) glasses could be made up for same day pickup (in an emergency) or next day or two for general jobs. Bifocals were a week, because they had to be ground, sent to us and then fitted to the frame. Multifocals were just beginning, but they only took a week also. Surely with all the computerized stuff now two weeks is silly. These days once you have chosen your frame, the practice sends the details of prescription and frame through by computer, the lenses are picked from the stocks or ground as required, cut and sent out to the practice where they are popped into the frame. That really shouldn’t take 2 weeks.

Could it be some lurk like ‘clearing a cheque’ at the bank, where they take your money, invest it, get some interest on it for umpteen days, and then, reluctantly, pass it on to wherever it needs to actually go? Something of that ilk?

LOL, really? Mine didn’t even need the full amount up front.

There may be a difference between independents and corporates. We didn’t ask for payment ahead of dispensing unless we had previous experience with a bad payer. The record would then have “payment before dispensing” written on the front page (in red). It never bothered me if the patient saw that note. They could always go somewhere else if they were offended. But I guess the practice had been there since the 1940s, so there was a lot of history on the records. And a very large proportion of my patients were long term at the practice.

Boris said:

buffy said:

captain_spalding said:

Could it be some lurk like ‘clearing a cheque’ at the bank, where they take your money, invest it, get some interest on it for umpteen days, and then, reluctantly, pass it on to wherever it needs to actually go? Something of that ilk?

Dunno, just sounds like a poor system to me. My little practice managed one week turnaround on multifocals with none of the computerized bells and whistles. After I wrote a script for someone and they picked their frames, Chris faxed (yes, faxed) the script and frame details to a little grind lab in Northern Tasmania. Bruce then put it into his pile of jobs and began the lens grinding process. In the meantime we put all the day’s frames into a box with a copy of what we had faxed attached to each one and posted them. By the time they got to him about 2 days later, the lenses were ready on his bench, he cut them to the frame, fitted them, checked them and sent us back a box of jobs each day. We then checked the scripts again (he rarely made mistakes, but quality control…), phoned the patient and they came in to pick up. Most stuff was done inside a week.

Mine took a couple of weeks.

Oh, I’ve got a couple of pair (multifocals) being made at present and it is now 10 days since J ordered them for me. It’s looking like it will be 2 weeks. I’m just thinking things have not gotten better in 40 odd years. They’ve gotten worse. And that doesn’t fit with the idea that computerization is the bees’ knees.

buffy said:

Boris said:

captain_spalding said:

Could it be some lurk like ‘clearing a cheque’ at the bank, where they take your money, invest it, get some interest on it for umpteen days, and then, reluctantly, pass it on to wherever it needs to actually go? Something of that ilk?

LOL, really? Mine didn’t even need the full amount up front.

There may be a difference between independents and corporates. We didn’t ask for payment ahead of dispensing unless we had previous experience with a bad payer. The record would then have “payment before dispensing” written on the front page (in red). It never bothered me if the patient saw that note. They could always go somewhere else if they were offended. But I guess the practice had been there since the 1940s, so there was a lot of history on the records. And a very large proportion of my patients were long term at the practice.

I go to Eyes West, an independent.

buffy said:

Boris said:

buffy said:

Dunno, just sounds like a poor system to me. My little practice managed one week turnaround on multifocals with none of the computerized bells and whistles. After I wrote a script for someone and they picked their frames, Chris faxed (yes, faxed) the script and frame details to a little grind lab in Northern Tasmania. Bruce then put it into his pile of jobs and began the lens grinding process. In the meantime we put all the day’s frames into a box with a copy of what we had faxed attached to each one and posted them. By the time they got to him about 2 days later, the lenses were ready on his bench, he cut them to the frame, fitted them, checked them and sent us back a box of jobs each day. We then checked the scripts again (he rarely made mistakes, but quality control…), phoned the patient and they came in to pick up. Most stuff was done inside a week.

Mine took a couple of weeks.

Oh, I’ve got a couple of pair (multifocals) being made at present and it is now 10 days since J ordered them for me. It’s looking like it will be 2 weeks. I’m just thinking things have not gotten better in 40 odd years. They’ve gotten worse. And that doesn’t fit with the idea that computerization is the bees’ knees.

Perhaps there are just fewer grinders.

buffy said:

I have to say it is amusing when I go for my own eye checks. Fortunately the guy doing mine for me uses a different chart from the ones I had recited to me multiple times a day for years. I don’t actually know the letter order on his chart.

Then there’s that old gag about people from eastern Europe who go to get their eyes checked. Not only can they read the chart, they actually know the people named!

esselte said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Great night, every Scottish supporter was given a Ukrainian flag to wave and all the Scottish supporters sang the Ukrainian national anthem and. then Scotland let them win 3-1

Following the match information has emerged that Scotland offered to send 1,000 football hooligans armed with bagpipes to Ukraine to help in that country’s fight against Russia. Speaking on behalf of the Scottish Hagas Legion, Lt Cmdr Fergus MacAngus said that the offer had been made in early April of this year. Earlier today the Ukrainian ambassador to Scotland thanked the Scottish people but rejected the offer, saying “Look, we hate the Russians and will do almost anything to chase them out of our country, but we are not monsters”.

LOL

Peak Warming Man said:

Great night, every Scottish supporter was given a Ukrainian flag to wave and all the Scottish supporters sang the Ukrainian national anthem and. then Scotland let them win 3-1

Now they play off against Wales

Boris said:

buffy said:

Boris said:

Mine took a couple of weeks.

Oh, I’ve got a couple of pair (multifocals) being made at present and it is now 10 days since J ordered them for me. It’s looking like it will be 2 weeks. I’m just thinking things have not gotten better in 40 odd years. They’ve gotten worse. And that doesn’t fit with the idea that computerization is the bees’ knees.

Perhaps there are just fewer grinders.

There are not as many labs any more, you are right. But the ones there are are rather large now.

Michael V said:

esselte said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Great night, every Scottish supporter was given a Ukrainian flag to wave and all the Scottish supporters sang the Ukrainian national anthem and. then Scotland let them win 3-1

Following the match information has emerged that Scotland offered to send 1,000 football hooligans armed with bagpipes to Ukraine to help in that country’s fight against Russia. Speaking on behalf of the Scottish Hagas Legion, Lt Cmdr Fergus MacAngus said that the offer had been made in early April of this year. Earlier today the Ukrainian ambassador to Scotland thanked the Scottish people but rejected the offer, saying “Look, we hate the Russians and will do almost anything to chase them out of our country, but we are not monsters”.

LOL

+1

back from yonderland

snacks and coffee now

reckon just seeing daddy-long-legs spider disabled a bigger spider over otherside the room there

transition said:

back from yonderland

snacks and coffee now

reckon just seeing daddy-long-legs spider disabled a bigger spider over otherside the room there

i’d post a picture but might be arachnophobes here, and they unsettle me, disconcert me, arachnophobes do, the thought of upsetting them

Time to relax in the living room with a glass of bubbly and Classic Drive through the new speakers.

Haven’t made quiche for some time so dinner tonight will be a small one with a filling of smoked rainbow trout, smoked mussels, chopped onion, halved cherry toms, a little tarragon, 3 x eggs, sour cream, nutmeg.

Bubblecar said:

Time to relax in the living room with a glass of bubbly and Classic Drive through the new speakers.

Haven’t made quiche for some time so dinner tonight will be a small one with a filling of smoked rainbow trout, smoked mussels, chopped onion, halved cherry toms, a little tarragon, 3 x eggs, sour cream, nutmeg.

Yes, nobody is as perfect as you.

Another month and ten days before the James Webb releases it’s first full colour science images :-(

Kingy said:

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

What happened sm?

had a tumble

Hope you get well soon, sm.

Coulda been worse though, you could have “Had a fall”.

Luckily, you’re not old enough.

dunno bout that.

Matt 1 took me to shop. Brought in my groceries. chopped me a few days wood and lit the fire.

While he was here Paisley jumped on me and she found a spot that really hurt. I was vocal with volume.

Matt said he would ferry me to a doctor if I said the word,

sarahs mum said:

Kingy said:

sarahs mum said:

had a tumble

Hope you get well soon, sm.

Coulda been worse though, you could have “Had a fall”.

Luckily, you’re not old enough.

dunno bout that.

Matt 1 took me to shop. Brought in my groceries. chopped me a few days wood and lit the fire.

While he was here Paisley jumped on me and she found a spot that really hurt. I was vocal with volume.

Matt said he would ferry me to a doctor if I said the word,

There’s probably a doctor on the other side of the Mersey.

Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

Kingy said:

Hope you get well soon, sm.

Coulda been worse though, you could have “Had a fall”.

Luckily, you’re not old enough.

dunno bout that.

Matt 1 took me to shop. Brought in my groceries. chopped me a few days wood and lit the fire.

While he was here Paisley jumped on me and she found a spot that really hurt. I was vocal with volume.

Matt said he would ferry me to a doctor if I said the word,

There’s probably a doctor on the other side of the Mersey.

is there a ferry across the mersey though?

sarahs mum said:

Kingy said:

sarahs mum said:

had a tumble

Hope you get well soon, sm.

Coulda been worse though, you could have “Had a fall”.

Luckily, you’re not old enough.

dunno bout that.

Matt 1 took me to shop. Brought in my groceries. chopped me a few days wood and lit the fire.

While he was here Paisley jumped on me and she found a spot that really hurt. I was vocal with volume.

Matt said he would ferry me to a doctor if I said the word,

Good to see people are looking after you.

Apparently wet moss is currently causing a lot of tumbles in Sydney, too.

Bubblecar said:

Time to relax in the living room with a glass of bubbly and Classic Drive through the new speakers.

Haven’t made quiche for some time so dinner tonight will be a small one with a filling of smoked rainbow trout, smoked mussels, chopped onion, halved cherry toms, a little tarragon, 3 x eggs, sour cream, nutmeg.

One of the chaps we had over for dinner last night just dropped off a cooked and cleaned mud crab.

Nice.

:)

kitchen fire lit, alight, got flames, burnies, ouchy burnies, carbonaceous material dephlogisticating

rum’n raisin chocolate lady just got a block out, and coffee landed

and reading about origins of the word light

https://www.etymonline.com/word/light

Boris said:

Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

dunno bout that.

Matt 1 took me to shop. Brought in my groceries. chopped me a few days wood and lit the fire.

While he was here Paisley jumped on me and she found a spot that really hurt. I was vocal with volume.

Matt said he would ferry me to a doctor if I said the word,

There’s probably a doctor on the other side of the Mersey.

is there a ferry across the mersey though?

And Liver Birds, too.

Aus Post asked me to do an online survey about yesterday’s delivery of the living room speakers.

I gave the delivery a 10 out of 10 and they asked: What are your most important reasons for giving this score?

Hard to know what to say beyond “Ken delivered the parcel nicely enough”, so I answered:

Ken, the local postman, delivered the parcel as agreeably and efficiently as a parcel can be delivered, without going to needless extremes.

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

Time to relax in the living room with a glass of bubbly and Classic Drive through the new speakers.

Haven’t made quiche for some time so dinner tonight will be a small one with a filling of smoked rainbow trout, smoked mussels, chopped onion, halved cherry toms, a little tarragon, 3 x eggs, sour cream, nutmeg.

One of the chaps we had over for dinner last night just dropped off a cooked and cleaned mud crab.

Nice.

:)

That’ll be tasty.

buffy said:

Boris said:

Arts said:

my eyes are slightly less better than they were six years ago… but the optometrist said that everything else is healthy as, and they haven’t really degraded as much as ‘average’ so pretty ok with it… I did pick out new frames and sunnies though… I’ll see them in two weeks.

did they run the full gamut of tests? look up, look up left, look left etc? Plus the little red lights and balloon.

Hang on, I read that before and I’ve thought about it while I swept some floors and babied the washing machine through a spin cycle with a heavy mat in it…

Two weeks? That is worse than what we were doing in 1981 when I started as an optometrist. Your sunglasses are not some high powered difficult prescription or a multifocal, I would presume? We kept a full stock of standard lenses on the premises and the dispenser cut them to the frame you chose. If things were going smoothly and we didn’t have to get larger lenses (this was the 1980s, when frames were BIG, so that sometimes you did have to get lenses ground to be big enough for the frames) glasses could be made up for same day pickup (in an emergency) or next day or two for general jobs. Bifocals were a week, because they had to be ground, sent to us and then fitted to the frame. Multifocals were just beginning, but they only took a week also. Surely with all the computerized stuff now two weeks is silly. These days once you have chosen your frame, the practice sends the details of prescription and frame through by computer, the lenses are picked from the stocks or ground as required, cut and sent out to the practice where they are popped into the frame. That really shouldn’t take 2 weeks.

we’re in Perth and the lenses are made in Melbourne. the two weeks is probably Australia post

diddly-squat said:

Arts said:

Arts said:

little red light and balloon and puff of air then what does the bottom line say then they change the lens and I realise it was a v and not a k

after every test they tell you “that’s really good’ but you find out you fucked up a v/k scenario which is less than good. so they liars

no.. what they mean is “that’s really good (we’re about to make some serious coin)….”

I did not disappoint them

Arts said:

buffy said:

Boris said:

did they run the full gamut of tests? look up, look up left, look left etc? Plus the little red lights and balloon.

Hang on, I read that before and I’ve thought about it while I swept some floors and babied the washing machine through a spin cycle with a heavy mat in it…

Two weeks? That is worse than what we were doing in 1981 when I started as an optometrist. Your sunglasses are not some high powered difficult prescription or a multifocal, I would presume? We kept a full stock of standard lenses on the premises and the dispenser cut them to the frame you chose. If things were going smoothly and we didn’t have to get larger lenses (this was the 1980s, when frames were BIG, so that sometimes you did have to get lenses ground to be big enough for the frames) glasses could be made up for same day pickup (in an emergency) or next day or two for general jobs. Bifocals were a week, because they had to be ground, sent to us and then fitted to the frame. Multifocals were just beginning, but they only took a week also. Surely with all the computerized stuff now two weeks is silly. These days once you have chosen your frame, the practice sends the details of prescription and frame through by computer, the lenses are picked from the stocks or ground as required, cut and sent out to the practice where they are popped into the frame. That really shouldn’t take 2 weeks.

we’re in Perth and the lenses are made in Melbourne. the two weeks is probably Australia post

I was told a similar time frame when I got some glasses earlier in the year but it took a only a few days

Bubblecar said:

Time to relax in the living room with a glass of bubbly and Classic Drive through the new speakers.

Haven’t made quiche for some time so dinner tonight will be a small one with a filling of smoked rainbow trout, smoked mussels, chopped onion, halved cherry toms, a little tarragon, 3 x eggs, sour cream, nutmeg.

buffy is experimenting with tea tonight. Years ago when lamb shanks were cheap, we used to put them into an oven bag with a sprinkling of French onion soup mix and bake them. So I’m adapting that. I’ve got a lamb forequarter chops, which I have wrapped around half an onion each chop and tied into a roll. They are in an oven bag with some French onion soup mix. They will go into the oven shortly. We will also have roast pumpkin, some steamed Brussels sprouts, and another piece each of the garlic focaccia we had at lunchtime. I think there will be gravy.

Arts said:

buffy said:

Boris said:

did they run the full gamut of tests? look up, look up left, look left etc? Plus the little red lights and balloon.

Hang on, I read that before and I’ve thought about it while I swept some floors and babied the washing machine through a spin cycle with a heavy mat in it…

Two weeks? That is worse than what we were doing in 1981 when I started as an optometrist. Your sunglasses are not some high powered difficult prescription or a multifocal, I would presume? We kept a full stock of standard lenses on the premises and the dispenser cut them to the frame you chose. If things were going smoothly and we didn’t have to get larger lenses (this was the 1980s, when frames were BIG, so that sometimes you did have to get lenses ground to be big enough for the frames) glasses could be made up for same day pickup (in an emergency) or next day or two for general jobs. Bifocals were a week, because they had to be ground, sent to us and then fitted to the frame. Multifocals were just beginning, but they only took a week also. Surely with all the computerized stuff now two weeks is silly. These days once you have chosen your frame, the practice sends the details of prescription and frame through by computer, the lenses are picked from the stocks or ground as required, cut and sent out to the practice where they are popped into the frame. That really shouldn’t take 2 weeks.

we’re in Perth and the lenses are made in Melbourne. the two weeks is probably Australia post

I’m sure there is a grind lab in Perth. Or did you go to SpecSavers….who have everything centralized in Melbourne.

Michael V said:

Boris said:

Peak Warming Man said:

There’s probably a doctor on the other side of the Mersey.

is there a ferry across the mersey though?

And Liver Birds, too.

A bird that Prometheus feared.

buffy said:

Arts said:

buffy said:

Hang on, I read that before and I’ve thought about it while I swept some floors and babied the washing machine through a spin cycle with a heavy mat in it…

Two weeks? That is worse than what we were doing in 1981 when I started as an optometrist. Your sunglasses are not some high powered difficult prescription or a multifocal, I would presume? We kept a full stock of standard lenses on the premises and the dispenser cut them to the frame you chose. If things were going smoothly and we didn’t have to get larger lenses (this was the 1980s, when frames were BIG, so that sometimes you did have to get lenses ground to be big enough for the frames) glasses could be made up for same day pickup (in an emergency) or next day or two for general jobs. Bifocals were a week, because they had to be ground, sent to us and then fitted to the frame. Multifocals were just beginning, but they only took a week also. Surely with all the computerized stuff now two weeks is silly. These days once you have chosen your frame, the practice sends the details of prescription and frame through by computer, the lenses are picked from the stocks or ground as required, cut and sent out to the practice where they are popped into the frame. That really shouldn’t take 2 weeks.

we’re in Perth and the lenses are made in Melbourne. the two weeks is probably Australia post

I’m sure there is a grind lab in Perth. Or did you go to SpecSavers….who have everything centralized in Melbourne.

yup

Damn, Shy John has closed.

dv said:

Damn, Shy John has closed.

Bloody Labor!!!

Bubblecar said:

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

Time to relax in the living room with a glass of bubbly and Classic Drive through the new speakers.

Haven’t made quiche for some time so dinner tonight will be a small one with a filling of smoked rainbow trout, smoked mussels, chopped onion, halved cherry toms, a little tarragon, 3 x eggs, sour cream, nutmeg.

One of the chaps we had over for dinner last night just dropped off a cooked and cleaned mud crab.

Nice.

:)

That’ll be tasty.

Oh, yes.

:)

buffy said:

Arts said:

buffy said:

Hang on, I read that before and I’ve thought about it while I swept some floors and babied the washing machine through a spin cycle with a heavy mat in it…

Two weeks? That is worse than what we were doing in 1981 when I started as an optometrist. Your sunglasses are not some high powered difficult prescription or a multifocal, I would presume? We kept a full stock of standard lenses on the premises and the dispenser cut them to the frame you chose. If things were going smoothly and we didn’t have to get larger lenses (this was the 1980s, when frames were BIG, so that sometimes you did have to get lenses ground to be big enough for the frames) glasses could be made up for same day pickup (in an emergency) or next day or two for general jobs. Bifocals were a week, because they had to be ground, sent to us and then fitted to the frame. Multifocals were just beginning, but they only took a week also. Surely with all the computerized stuff now two weeks is silly. These days once you have chosen your frame, the practice sends the details of prescription and frame through by computer, the lenses are picked from the stocks or ground as required, cut and sent out to the practice where they are popped into the frame. That really shouldn’t take 2 weeks.

we’re in Perth and the lenses are made in Melbourne. the two weeks is probably Australia post

I’m sure there is a grind lab in Perth. Or did you go to SpecSavers….who have everything centralized in Melbourne.

Ah, a quick Google only brings up Essilor in Perth. I reckon there are a couple of small labs too. I don’t have industry access to this sort of stuff any more. But we used to buy quite a bit of our accessory stuff like lens cloths, glasses chains etc from Perth and they never took more than a couple of days to arrive. They use couriers rather than Aust Post.

Arts said:

buffy said:

Arts said:

we’re in Perth and the lenses are made in Melbourne. the two weeks is probably Australia post

I’m sure there is a grind lab in Perth. Or did you go to SpecSavers….who have everything centralized in Melbourne.

yup

Ah. That explains the up front payment too. Make sure you are happy with them and don’t hesitate to complain if you need to. They are an expensive item and must be fit for purpose.

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

New thread.

Up there for thinking.

down there for dancing
and in-between for romancing.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-02/climate-resilient-koala-discovery-nsw-kosciuszko-national-park/101120016

I wonder if they thought to ask people who hike and camp up there. You would not miss the calls of a male koala. I think that is where the stories of bunyips came from.

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Time to relax in the living room with a glass of bubbly and Classic Drive through the new speakers.

Haven’t made quiche for some time so dinner tonight will be a small one with a filling of smoked rainbow trout, smoked mussels, chopped onion, halved cherry toms, a little tarragon, 3 x eggs, sour cream, nutmeg.

buffy is experimenting with tea tonight. Years ago when lamb shanks were cheap, we used to put them into an oven bag with a sprinkling of French onion soup mix and bake them. So I’m adapting that. I’ve got a lamb forequarter chops, which I have wrapped around half an onion each chop and tied into a roll. They are in an oven bag with some French onion soup mix. They will go into the oven shortly. We will also have roast pumpkin, some steamed Brussels sprouts, and another piece each of the garlic focaccia we had at lunchtime. I think there will be gravy.

Hearty winter fare.

three fires going, lady got two loads washing on clothes horses, get them nice and dry overnight

Boris said:

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

New thread.

Up there for thinking.

down there for dancing
and in-between for romancing.

I know, right. I held my tongue though…

transition said:

three fires going, lady got two loads washing on clothes horses, get them nice and dry overnight

We’ve got a couple of these over door airers. Gets the clothes up to where the warmer air is. We’ve had them for years. One of our friends told us our house was like a Chinese laundry when she walked in one day. You do have to put a town across the top of the door or they eat into the wood of the door a bit. I think I bought them from the local hardware/rural supplies place, probably 30 years ago.

Michael V said:

Boris said:

Michael V said:

Up there for thinking.

down there for dancing
and in-between for romancing.

I know, right. I held my tongue though…

The secret is all in how you hold the tongue.

buffy said:

transition said:

three fires going, lady got two loads washing on clothes horses, get them nice and dry overnight

We’ve got a couple of these over door airers. Gets the clothes up to where the warmer air is. We’ve had them for years. One of our friends told us our house was like a Chinese laundry when she walked in one day. You do have to put a town across the top of the door or they eat into the wood of the door a bit. I think I bought them from the local hardware/rural supplies place, probably 30 years ago.

i’ll keep that in mind, she just bought another made like that stands on the ground

I like clothes on clothes horses around the rooms, feels all cosy

buffy said:

transition said:

three fires going, lady got two loads washing on clothes horses, get them nice and dry overnight

We’ve got a couple of these over door airers. Gets the clothes up to where the warmer air is. We’ve had them for years. One of our friends told us our house was like a Chinese laundry when she walked in one day. You do have to put a town across the top of the door or they eat into the wood of the door a bit. I think I bought them from the local hardware/rural supplies place, probably 30 years ago.

Bit foggy at your place Ms Buffy, hey what but.

buffy said:

Arts said:

buffy said:

I’m sure there is a grind lab in Perth. Or did you go to SpecSavers….who have everything centralized in Melbourne.

yup

Ah. That explains the up front payment too. Make sure you are happy with them and don’t hesitate to complain if you need to. They are an expensive item and must be fit for purpose.

they didn’t make me pay upfront.. they gave me the choice of half now half when I got them.. but I’m a pay up fronter… I like to know I have no owings over my head..

transition said:

buffy said:

transition said:

three fires going, lady got two loads washing on clothes horses, get them nice and dry overnight

We’ve got a couple of these over door airers. Gets the clothes up to where the warmer air is. We’ve had them for years. One of our friends told us our house was like a Chinese laundry when she walked in one day. You do have to put a town across the top of the door or they eat into the wood of the door a bit. I think I bought them from the local hardware/rural supplies place, probably 30 years ago.

i’ll keep that in mind, she just bought another made like that stands on the ground

I like clothes on clothes horses around the rooms, feels all cosy

lady just looking at that picture

Bubblecar said:

Haven’t made quiche for some time so dinner tonight will be a small one with a filling of smoked rainbow trout, smoked mussels, chopped onion, halved cherry toms, a little tarragon, 3 x eggs, sour cream, nutmeg.

And here it is. Unfortunately the cherry tom in the middle drowned.

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Haven’t made quiche for some time so dinner tonight will be a small one with a filling of smoked rainbow trout, smoked mussels, chopped onion, halved cherry toms, a little tarragon, 3 x eggs, sour cream, nutmeg.

And here it is. Unfortunately the cherry tom in the middle drowned.

And there was nothing you could do?

fuck humans

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-02/needle-spiking-in-nightclubs-and-concerts-on-the-rise-in-europe/101122434

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Haven’t made quiche for some time so dinner tonight will be a small one with a filling of smoked rainbow trout, smoked mussels, chopped onion, halved cherry toms, a little tarragon, 3 x eggs, sour cream, nutmeg.

And here it is. Unfortunately the cherry tom in the middle drowned.

And there was nothing you could do?

He scoffed it all with little concern for cherry tomatoes and their fate.

SCIENCE said:

fuck humans

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-02/needle-spiking-in-nightclubs-and-concerts-on-the-rise-in-europe/101122434

Bill Gates.

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Haven’t made quiche for some time so dinner tonight will be a small one with a filling of smoked rainbow trout, smoked mussels, chopped onion, halved cherry toms, a little tarragon, 3 x eggs, sour cream, nutmeg.

And here it is. Unfortunately the cherry tom in the middle drowned.

nom noms. With some lightly steamed asparagus spears?

buffy said:

transition said:

three fires going, lady got two loads washing on clothes horses, get them nice and dry overnight

We’ve got a couple of these over door airers. Gets the clothes up to where the warmer air is. We’ve had them for years. One of our friends told us our house was like a Chinese laundry when she walked in one day. You do have to put a town across the top of the door or they eat into the wood of the door a bit. I think I bought them from the local hardware/rural supplies place, probably 30 years ago.

Mr buffy has pointed out to me that town = towel in that post. I’m sure I didn’t type town…

Woodie said:

buffy said:

transition said:

three fires going, lady got two loads washing on clothes horses, get them nice and dry overnight

We’ve got a couple of these over door airers. Gets the clothes up to where the warmer air is. We’ve had them for years. One of our friends told us our house was like a Chinese laundry when she walked in one day. You do have to put a town across the top of the door or they eat into the wood of the door a bit. I think I bought them from the local hardware/rural supplies place, probably 30 years ago.

Bit foggy at your place Ms Buffy, hey what but.

It was earlier in the week. This morning it was minus one degree and frost instead. We are forecast an overnight low of 5 tonight. It is presently 5 at the back door. I suspect we will go lower yet.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Haven’t made quiche for some time so dinner tonight will be a small one with a filling of smoked rainbow trout, smoked mussels, chopped onion, halved cherry toms, a little tarragon, 3 x eggs, sour cream, nutmeg.

And here it is. Unfortunately the cherry tom in the middle drowned.

And there was nothing you could do?

Put it out of its misery.

Buffy, if I wanted a standard set of bifocals with 2.0 main and 3.0 reading, can I buy them with remortgaging my house?

Kingy said:

Buffy, if I wanted a standard set of bifocals with 2.0 main and 3.0 reading, can I buy them with remortgaging my house?

I’ve been retired 3 years now. We used to have bifocal lenses <$200. Then there is the frame to add on. If you’ve got one in good nick it can be re-used. But you will need a prescription written out. Spectacles are a prescription item and you need a prescription with the appropriate details written by a registered practitioner.

I’m off to watch “8 out of 10 cats do Countdown”. And eat a vanilla slice. And then watch the last episode of “Holding” on SBS on demand.

buffy said:

Kingy said:

Buffy, if I wanted a standard set of bifocals with 2.0 main and 3.0 reading, can I buy them with remortgaging my house?

I’ve been retired 3 years now. We used to have bifocal lenses <$200. Then there is the frame to add on. If you’ve got one in good nick it can be re-used. But you will need a prescription written out. Spectacles are a prescription item and you need a prescription with the appropriate details written by a registered practitioner.

Harrumph. I buy my glasses form the newsagent for $20. One set for wearing and one set for reading. $40 total. I shall continue to do that until the “registered practitioner” can provide a “prescription” for “spectacles” for the price I’m willing to pay. Until then, I’ll just carry two pairs of cheap newsagent glasses. If I was rich enough to spend that much on glasses, I’d get one of them laser doohickeys to burn 25 years off my eyeballs instead.

And you kids get off my damn lawn!

Kingy said:

buffy said:

Kingy said:

Buffy, if I wanted a standard set of bifocals with 2.0 main and 3.0 reading, can I buy them with remortgaging my house?

I’ve been retired 3 years now. We used to have bifocal lenses <$200. Then there is the frame to add on. If you’ve got one in good nick it can be re-used. But you will need a prescription written out. Spectacles are a prescription item and you need a prescription with the appropriate details written by a registered practitioner.

Harrumph. I buy my glasses form the newsagent for $20. One set for wearing and one set for reading. $40 total. I shall continue to do that until the “registered practitioner” can provide a “prescription” for “spectacles” for the price I’m willing to pay. Until then, I’ll just carry two pairs of cheap newsagent glasses. If I was rich enough to spend that much on glasses, I’d get one of them laser doohickeys to burn 25 years off my eyeballs instead.

And you kids get off my damn lawn!

I hope you at least consider having a check of the health of your eyes periodically. You are not obliged to buy glasses. I used to tell people – when it was appropriate – which over the counter readers to buy. Especially for the farmers, who wrecked glasses quite often. They won’t do you any harm. They may not give you optimal vision. And if there is glaucoma or something creeping up on you (it is symptomless initially), you won’t know unless you get a check. Eye tests are Medicare. Although you will probably have a gap to pay. I was assuming you needed something more complicated in the way of prescription.

“Cats” is now starting. Back later.

buffy said:

buffy said:

transition said:

three fires going, lady got two loads washing on clothes horses, get them nice and dry overnight

We’ve got a couple of these over door airers. Gets the clothes up to where the warmer air is. We’ve had them for years. One of our friends told us our house was like a Chinese laundry when she walked in one day. You do have to put a town across the top of the door or they eat into the wood of the door a bit. I think I bought them from the local hardware/rural supplies place, probably 30 years ago.

Mr buffy has pointed out to me that town = towel in that post. I’m sure I didn’t type town…

my neuron noticed the anomaly and corrected the likely typo, assumptions were made, along with the many required assumptions involved in reading correctly writly assemblage, any

All the Kings horses and all the Kings men……

There’s a bloody lotta ‘em, idn’t there, hey what but.

Watching an episode of One Step Beyond from the year of my birth, which from tomorrow* was 63 years ago.

One Step Beyond (TV-1959) EMERGENCY ONLY S1E3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qApSk9DMrtY&t=71s

* Friday 3rd June (BUBBLECAR’S BIRTHDAY)

Bubblecar said:

Watching an episode of One Step Beyond from the year of my birth, which from tomorrow* was 63 years ago.

One Step Beyond (TV-1959) EMERGENCY ONLY S1E3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qApSk9DMrtY&t=71s

* Friday 3rd June (BUBBLECAR’S BIRTHDAY)

I’m watching all the kings horses and all the kings men marching up and down the square.

Bubblecar said:

Watching an episode of One Step Beyond from the year of my birth, which from tomorrow* was 63 years ago.

One Step Beyond (TV-1959) EMERGENCY ONLY S1E3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qApSk9DMrtY&t=71s

* Friday 3rd June (BUBBLECAR’S BIRTHDAY)

my reading
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich_Mean_Time

what time of the day were you born

maybe have an idea what what time of day my kids were born, i’d have no idea regard my self, i’d need consult me mum, and possibly dad, though dad may not have been there

Woodie said:

Bubblecar said:

Watching an episode of One Step Beyond from the year of my birth, which from tomorrow* was 63 years ago.

One Step Beyond (TV-1959) EMERGENCY ONLY S1E3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qApSk9DMrtY&t=71s

* Friday 3rd June (BUBBLECAR’S BIRTHDAY)

I’m watching all the kings horses and all the kings men marching up and down the square.

And when they were up they were up,
And when they were down they were down.
And when they were only half-way up
They were neither up nor down.

I hpe it is a good birthday Mr car. xx

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

Watching an episode of One Step Beyond from the year of my birth, which from tomorrow* was 63 years ago.

One Step Beyond (TV-1959) EMERGENCY ONLY S1E3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qApSk9DMrtY&t=71s

* Friday 3rd June (BUBBLECAR’S BIRTHDAY)

my reading
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich_Mean_Time

what time of the day were you born

maybe have an idea what what time of day my kids were born, i’d have no idea regard my self, i’d need consult me mum, and possibly dad, though dad may not have been there

No idea what time of day I was born. But I’m pretty sure I was born at home, not in a hospital.

Also, I was a planned baby.

OMG. That is one unlucky guy.
Watch to the end.

https://www.facebook.com/100004626282074/videos/1495231760641019

sarahs mum said:

I hpe it is a good birthday Mr car. xx

Ta, I’m sure it will be, despite the rather tryingly long drives to Hobart and back.

21 again bubblecar?

monkey skipper said:

21 again bubblecar?

21 × 3 = 63.

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

21 again bubblecar?

21 × 3 = 63.

HB for tomorrow!!

Bubblecar said:

Also, I was a planned baby.

“The best laid schemes of mice and men…”

monkey skipper said:

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

21 again bubblecar?

21 × 3 = 63.

HB for tomorrow!!

Ta.

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

21 again bubblecar?

21 × 3 = 63.

mum’s ~13 years older than you, ten pound pom

~15 yo when came out

transition said:

Bubblecar said:

monkey skipper said:

21 again bubblecar?

21 × 3 = 63.

mum’s ~13 years older than you, ten pound pom

~15 yo when came out

:)

A warning. Do not trust my opinion on anything medical.

I’ve had a particular malady since I was in High School if not earlier.
mrs m, found out in 5 minutes yesterday from an old book, that I’ve been treating it wrongly, in two separate ways, for 50 years.
Confirmed by doctor this morning.

They’re still marching up and down the square, you know.

mollwollfumble said:

A warning. Do not trust my opinion on anything

done deal

a larder s not someone who puts lard on something.

a republican isn’t somone who goes back to running a pub.

sarahs mum said:

a larder s not someone who puts lard on something.

a republican isn’t somone who goes back to running a pub.

Though a larder could be a place that puts lard on someone

sarahs mum said:

a larder s not someone who puts lard on something.

a republican isn’t somone who goes back to running a pub.

A party pooper isn’t someone who gets paid to poop at parties.

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

a larder s not someone who puts lard on something.

a republican isn’t somone who goes back to running a pub.

Though a larder could be a place that puts lard on someone

a larder can be used to store lard i suppose.

I’ll do the word games tomorrow, too relaxed to switch the brain back on tonight.

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees and overcast here at the moment. We are forecast 13 degrees with late showers.

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

Haven’t made quiche for some time so dinner tonight will be a small one with a filling of smoked rainbow trout, smoked mussels, chopped onion, halved cherry toms, a little tarragon, 3 x eggs, sour cream, nutmeg.

And here it is. Unfortunately the cherry tom in the middle drowned.

My mouth is watering, Mr Car. Looks gorgeous.

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees and overcast here at the moment. We are forecast 13 degrees with late showers.

Morning buffy
17° here. No rain forecast until maybe Monday.

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees and overcast here at the moment. We are forecast 13 degrees with late showers.

Good morning everybody.

13.6°C, scattered cloud. Washing being done now by the washing robot, because rain is predicted from tonight for a few days.

At times I wish the washing robot would peg the washing out, and bring it in when it’s dry. But no. It does one job only, but very well.

Bread making, yard work slated for today.

Michael V said:

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees and overcast here at the moment. We are forecast 13 degrees with late showers.

Good morning everybody.

13.6°C, scattered cloud. Washing being done now by the washing robot, because rain is predicted from tonight for a few days.

At times I wish the washing robot would peg the washing out, and bring it in when it’s dry. But no. It does one job only, but very well.

Bread making, yard work slated for today.

Bit more fire break clearing here.

sittin’ here I am derrs
yes early mornin’ did has
not now mean earlier
‘round 4:00am were was
that ‘ardly rhyme I err
yeah has’n was because
sound way differenter
though both ends with as
but I says’t whatever!

Dang. The nurse messed up on one arm while taking blood.

Next is the 24 hour BP test band.

roughbarked said:

Dang. The nurse messed up on one arm while taking blood.

Next is the 24 hour BP test band.

What’s gone wrong with you this time?

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Dang. The nurse messed up on one arm while taking blood.

Next is the 24 hour BP test band.

What’s gone wrong with you this time?

I’ve had some brownouts.
funny turns.

No laughing though.

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Dang. The nurse messed up on one arm while taking blood.

Next is the 24 hour BP test band.

What’s gone wrong with you this time?

I’ve had some brownouts.
funny turns.

No laughing though.

BP seems a god starting point for that.

Hello

I’m back, for a little bit. I went for a jog without Bruna, who is complaining about a sore leg. Then I walked The Pug. And I’ve photographed some more mushrooms in the park. We have a lot of yellow stainers around. And some melting mushrooms (I think they are Coprinellus).

…

Cymek said:

Hello

Well well. :) hello there.

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Hello

Well well. :) hello there.

G’day.

Looking at various articles on Wikipedia.
The one that struck me was infant formula shortage in the USA.
Strange thing considering breast feeding is or should be a viable option for most women

The article even has the below

Unlike other food products, infant formula often does not have an available and acceptable substitute as a source of nutrition for those who rely on it.

Cymek said:

Looking at various articles on Wikipedia.
The one that struck me was infant formula shortage in the USA.
Strange thing considering breast feeding is or should be a viable option for most women

The article even has the below

Unlike other food products, infant formula often does not have an available and acceptable substitute as a source of nutrition for those who rely on it.

Maybe the mothers have Queen Victoria’s aversion to breast feeding.

Cymek said:

Looking at various articles on Wikipedia.
The one that struck me was infant formula shortage in the USA.
Strange thing considering breast feeding is or should be a viable option for most women

The article even has the below

Unlike other food products, infant formula often does not have an available and acceptable substitute as a source of nutrition for those who rely on it.

Some women find it difficult to breast feed but that’s why there were always suppport systems.
https://www.mothersmilkbank.com.au/

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

Looking at various articles on Wikipedia.
The one that struck me was infant formula shortage in the USA.
Strange thing considering breast feeding is or should be a viable option for most women

The article even has the below

Unlike other food products, infant formula often does not have an available and acceptable substitute as a source of nutrition for those who rely on it.

Maybe the mothers have Queen Victoria’s aversion to breast feeding.

Possible

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Looking at various articles on Wikipedia.
The one that struck me was infant formula shortage in the USA.
Strange thing considering breast feeding is or should be a viable option for most women

The article even has the below

Unlike other food products, infant formula often does not have an available and acceptable substitute as a source of nutrition for those who rely on it.

Some women find it difficult to breast feed but that’s why there were always suppport systems.
https://www.mothersmilkbank.com.au/

Yes exactly
Is it years of misinformation from formula companies to sell a product I wonder rather than inability to do it.

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Looking at various articles on Wikipedia.
The one that struck me was infant formula shortage in the USA.
Strange thing considering breast feeding is or should be a viable option for most women

The article even has the below

Unlike other food products, infant formula often does not have an available and acceptable substitute as a source of nutrition for those who rely on it.

Some women find it difficult to breast feed but that’s why there were always suppport systems.
https://www.mothersmilkbank.com.au/

Yes exactly
Is it years of misinformation from formula companies to sell a product I wonder rather than inability to do it.

if you tell a lie often enough they tend to start believing it.

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Some women find it difficult to breast feed but that’s why there were always suppport systems.
https://www.mothersmilkbank.com.au/

Yes exactly
Is it years of misinformation from formula companies to sell a product I wonder rather than inability to do it.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katiecamero/breastfeeding-during-formula-shortage

Why breastfeeding isn’t a solution to the formula shortage – By Dr. Rebekah Diamond, assistant professor of pediatrics at Columbia University

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/baby-formula-shortage-mothers-breastfeeding-blamed-rcna28595

captain_spalding said:

Why breastfeeding isn’t a solution to the formula shortage – By Dr. Rebekah Diamond, assistant professor of pediatrics at Columbia University

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/baby-formula-shortage-mothers-breastfeeding-blamed-rcna28595

They are fair points but I was thinking misinformation and some weird idea doing it is dirty and lack of support would be a lot to blame.

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Dang. The nurse messed up on one arm while taking blood.

Next is the 24 hour BP test band.

What’s gone wrong with you this time?

I’ve had some brownouts.
funny turns.

No laughing though.

Bugger.

Getting old is not for the faint-hearted, one of Mrs V’s older friends used to say.

I hope they get it sorted quickly.

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

What’s gone wrong with you this time?

I’ve had some brownouts.
funny turns.

No laughing though.

Bugger.

Getting old is not for the faint-hearted, one of Mrs V’s older friends used to say.

I hope they get it sorted quickly.

So far it is only a warning. However, sometimes the delay between the warning and the death knell may be short.

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Why breastfeeding isn’t a solution to the formula shortage – By Dr. Rebekah Diamond, assistant professor of pediatrics at Columbia University

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/baby-formula-shortage-mothers-breastfeeding-blamed-rcna28595

They are fair points but I was thinking misinformation and some weird idea doing it is dirty and lack of support would be a lot to blame.

Oh, yeah, Nestle have killed thousands and thousands of babies, particularly in Africa and India, with misinforming advertising for their formula. Encouraging mothers to use formula in places where sanitary water for its preparation isn’t available produced the equivalent of wholesale murder.

There’s no lack of support for breastfeeding. On the contrary, there’s often a lack of support for formula feeding, with mothers being made to feel delinquent because they don’t breastfeed, for whatever reason.

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Why breastfeeding isn’t a solution to the formula shortage – By Dr. Rebekah Diamond, assistant professor of pediatrics at Columbia University

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/baby-formula-shortage-mothers-breastfeeding-blamed-rcna28595

They are fair points but I was thinking misinformation and some weird idea doing it is dirty and lack of support would be a lot to blame.

Oh, yeah, Nestle have killed thousands and thousands of babies, particularly in Africa and India, with misinforming advertising for their formula. Encouraging mothers to use formula in places where sanitary water for its preparation isn’t available produced the equivalent of wholesale murder.

There’s no lack of support for breastfeeding. On the contrary, there’s often a lack of support for formula feeding, with mothers being made to feel delinquent because they don’t breastfeed, for whatever reason.

The Breastfeeding Mothers Association provides support for all mothers.

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Why breastfeeding isn’t a solution to the formula shortage – By Dr. Rebekah Diamond, assistant professor of pediatrics at Columbia University

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/baby-formula-shortage-mothers-breastfeeding-blamed-rcna28595

They are fair points but I was thinking misinformation and some weird idea doing it is dirty and lack of support would be a lot to blame.

Oh, yeah, Nestle have killed thousands and thousands of babies, particularly in Africa and India, with misinforming advertising for their formula. Encouraging mothers to use formula in places where sanitary water for its preparation isn’t available produced the equivalent of wholesale murder.

There’s no lack of support for breastfeeding. On the contrary, there’s often a lack of support for formula feeding, with mothers being made to feel delinquent because they don’t breastfeed, for whatever reason.

That seems to indicate there are two schools of thought, both of which have supporters & detractors.

Heard a very good doco on the blind peoples wireless last night about the Arcadians.
They were French Huguenots who settled in Canada and were living the life of riley until the poms turned up. Quite interesting.

Peak Warming Man said:

Heard a very good doco on the blind peoples wireless last night about the Arcadians.
They were French Huguenots who settled in Canada and were living the life of riley until the poms turned up. Quite interesting.

Ah well

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

What’s gone wrong with you this time?

I’ve had some brownouts.
funny turns.

No laughing though.

Mr Barked, Just drop dead like Beeny Boy did. They fixed that good and pronto. Hooked him up with jumper leads and a car battery. Look at him now. He’s fine and dandy. No probs at all. 😎

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

What’s gone wrong with you this time?

I’ve had some brownouts.
funny turns.

No laughing though.

Mr Barked, Just drop dead like Beeny Boy did. They fixed that good and pronto. Hooked him up with jumper leads and a car battery. Look at him now. He’s fine and dandy. No probs at all. 😎

:) Maybe I need to power my batteries with the good old invalid stout?

Woodie said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

What’s gone wrong with you this time?

I’ve had some brownouts.
funny turns.

No laughing though.

Mr Barked, Just drop dead like Beeny Boy did. They fixed that good and pronto. Hooked him up with jumper leads and a car battery. Look at him now. He’s fine and dandy. No probs at all. 😎

Steady lad.

Have we done the news quiz? I got 3/10. I haven’t caught up here from last night yet. Got other things to do for the moment.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-03/friday-news-quiz-june-3/101118960

buffy said:

Have we done the news quiz? I got 3/10. I haven’t caught up here from last night yet. Got other things to do for the moment.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-03/friday-news-quiz-june-3/101118960

5/10 here

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Heard a very good doco on the blind peoples wireless last night about the Arcadians.
They were French Huguenots who settled in Canada and were living the life of riley until the poms turned up. Quite interesting.

Ah well

How did the indigies feel about the arrival of the French?

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Heard a very good doco on the blind peoples wireless last night about the Arcadians.
They were French Huguenots who settled in Canada and were living the life of riley until the poms turned up. Quite interesting.

Ah well

How did the indigies feel about the arrival of the French?

They didn’t mind because the Arcadians drained the swamp and used the very fertile reclaimed land to grow crops etc, it was land the natives never used so all was sweet.

kryten said:

buffy said:

Have we done the news quiz? I got 3/10. I haven’t caught up here from last night yet. Got other things to do for the moment.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-03/friday-news-quiz-june-3/101118960

5/10 here

3/10

The remaining hose hangers have been installed. The bread is proving at ~45°C in the oven and has been for nearly two hours now.

buffy said:

Have we done the news quiz? I got 3/10. I haven’t caught up here from last night yet. Got other things to do for the moment.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-03/friday-news-quiz-june-3/101118960

6/10 here with some guesswork

I breakfasted, breakfast proper, at ten minutes to lunch

Redactle in 9 today

transition said:

I breakfasted, breakfast proper, at ten minutes to lunch

Good good, gives you ten minutes of settling time before luncheon.

Michael V said:

The remaining hose hangers have been installed. The bread is proving at ~45°C in the oven and has been for nearly two hours now.

Rigorous

Peak Warming Man said:

kryten said:

buffy said:

Have we done the news quiz? I got 3/10. I haven’t caught up here from last night yet. Got other things to do for the moment.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-03/friday-news-quiz-june-3/101118960

5/10 here

3/10

4/10, two were guesses.

dv said:

transition said:

I breakfasted, breakfast proper, at ten minutes to lunch

Good good, gives you ten minutes of settling time before luncheon.

consider the ontological crisis that follows, what am to call lunch when I get around to it, then dinner, those daily daytime punctuations of wakefulness with eating, names for the times, appropriate names applied

a crisis of reality descends upon me, my reality’s being washed away, all the temporal controls, references

i’ll need attend bootcamp for the clock dysobservants

transition said:

dv said:

transition said:

I breakfasted, breakfast proper, at ten minutes to lunch

Good good, gives you ten minutes of settling time before luncheon.

consider the ontological crisis that follows, what am to call lunch when I get around to it, then dinner, those daily daytime punctuations of wakefulness with eating, names for the times, appropriate names applied

a crisis of reality descends upon me, my reality’s being washed away, all the temporal controls, references

i’ll need attend bootcamp for the clock dysobservants

Late brunch.

One set of bronze age warriors found to lack lactase persistence.

https://www.science.org/content/article/warrior-skeletons-reveal-bronze-age-europeans-couldn-t-drink-milk

Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk

About 3000 years ago, thousands of warriors fought on the banks of the Tollense river in northern Germany. They wielded weapons of wood, stone, and bronze to deadly effect: Over the past decade, archaeologists have unearthed the skeletal remains of hundreds of people buried in marshy soil. It’s one of the largest prehistoric conflicts ever discovered.

Now, genetic testing of the skeletons reveals the homelands of the warriors—and unearths a shocker about early European diets: These soldiers couldn’t digest fresh milk.

—-

The headline is very misleading in a couple of ways.

Firstly, this was a study of 14 skeletons from one battle. It can’t tell us anything about the generality of the population of Bronze Age Europe. Even today there are European populations with such low levels of lactase persistence that it would be unsurprising if 14 randomly selected individuals did not have that trait.

Secondly, lactose intolerance is not the same as the lack of genetic markers for lactase persistence. Plenty of lactose intolerant people have this genetic trait, and plenty of people without this trait are not lactose intolerant. 5 out of 6 Greek people do not have the lactase persistence genotype but most of them eat feta just fine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence

transition said:

dv said:

transition said:

I breakfasted, breakfast proper, at ten minutes to lunch

Good good, gives you ten minutes of settling time before luncheon.

consider the ontological crisis that follows, what am to call lunch when I get around to it, then dinner, those daily daytime punctuations of wakefulness with eating, names for the times, appropriate names applied

a crisis of reality descends upon me, my reality’s being washed away, all the temporal controls, references

i’ll need attend bootcamp for the clock dysobservants

Perhaps redesignated lunch as second breakfat

dv said:

One set of bronze age warriors found to lack lactase persistence.

https://www.science.org/content/article/warrior-skeletons-reveal-bronze-age-europeans-couldn-t-drink-milk

Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk

About 3000 years ago, thousands of warriors fought on the banks of the Tollense river in northern Germany. They wielded weapons of wood, stone, and bronze to deadly effect: Over the past decade, archaeologists have unearthed the skeletal remains of hundreds of people buried in marshy soil. It’s one of the largest prehistoric conflicts ever discovered.

Now, genetic testing of the skeletons reveals the homelands of the warriors—and unearths a shocker about early European diets: These soldiers couldn’t digest fresh milk.

—-

The headline is very misleading in a couple of ways.

Firstly, this was a study of 14 skeletons from one battle. It can’t tell us anything about the generality of the population of Bronze Age Europe. Even today there are European populations with such low levels of lactase persistence that it would be unsurprising if 14 randomly selected individuals did not have that trait.

Secondly, lactose intolerance is not the same as the lack of genetic markers for lactase persistence. Plenty of lactose intolerant people have this genetic trait, and plenty of people without this trait are not lactose intolerant. 5 out of 6 Greek people do not have the lactase persistence genotype but most of them eat feta just fine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence

Isn’t milk tolerance something recent anyway

dv said:

One set of bronze age warriors found to lack lactase persistence.

https://www.science.org/content/article/warrior-skeletons-reveal-bronze-age-europeans-couldn-t-drink-milk

Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk

About 3000 years ago, thousands of warriors fought on the banks of the Tollense river in northern Germany. They wielded weapons of wood, stone, and bronze to deadly effect: Over the past decade, archaeologists have unearthed the skeletal remains of hundreds of people buried in marshy soil. It’s one of the largest prehistoric conflicts ever discovered.

Now, genetic testing of the skeletons reveals the homelands of the warriors—and unearths a shocker about early European diets: These soldiers couldn’t digest fresh milk.

—-

The headline is very misleading in a couple of ways.

Firstly, this was a study of 14 skeletons from one battle. It can’t tell us anything about the generality of the population of Bronze Age Europe. Even today there are European populations with such low levels of lactase persistence that it would be unsurprising if 14 randomly selected individuals did not have that trait.

Secondly, lactose intolerance is not the same as the lack of genetic markers for lactase persistence. Plenty of lactose intolerant people have this genetic trait, and plenty of people without this trait are not lactose intolerant. 5 out of 6 Greek people do not have the lactase persistence genotype but most of them eat feta just fine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence

Bronze Age European Number 1 “I can’t drink milk:

Bronze Age European Number 2, “Don’t have a cow, man!”

someone needs do jobsies, and get more wood

we’ve got cold days coming up lady says

Cymek said:

dv said:

One set of bronze age warriors found to lack lactase persistence.

https://www.science.org/content/article/warrior-skeletons-reveal-bronze-age-europeans-couldn-t-drink-milk

Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk

About 3000 years ago, thousands of warriors fought on the banks of the Tollense river in northern Germany. They wielded weapons of wood, stone, and bronze to deadly effect: Over the past decade, archaeologists have unearthed the skeletal remains of hundreds of people buried in marshy soil. It’s one of the largest prehistoric conflicts ever discovered.

Now, genetic testing of the skeletons reveals the homelands of the warriors—and unearths a shocker about early European diets: These soldiers couldn’t digest fresh milk.

—-

The headline is very misleading in a couple of ways.

Firstly, this was a study of 14 skeletons from one battle. It can’t tell us anything about the generality of the population of Bronze Age Europe. Even today there are European populations with such low levels of lactase persistence that it would be unsurprising if 14 randomly selected individuals did not have that trait.

Secondly, lactose intolerance is not the same as the lack of genetic markers for lactase persistence. Plenty of lactose intolerant people have this genetic trait, and plenty of people without this trait are not lactose intolerant. 5 out of 6 Greek people do not have the lactase persistence genotype but most of them eat feta just fine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence

Isn’t milk tolerance something recent anyway

I mean… this study is part of the effort to answer that question.

Here’s a previous study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4918750/
A genome-wide scan for selection using DNA gathered from 230 ancient West Eurasians who lived between 6500 and 300 BCE found that the earliest appearance of the allele responsible for lactase persistence occurred in an individual who lived in central Europe between 2450 and 2140 BCE

The first day of the test at Lords is a stark reminder of the effect slap and tickle cricket is having on the proper game.

dv said:

Cymek said:

dv said:

One set of bronze age warriors found to lack lactase persistence.

https://www.science.org/content/article/warrior-skeletons-reveal-bronze-age-europeans-couldn-t-drink-milk

Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk

About 3000 years ago, thousands of warriors fought on the banks of the Tollense river in northern Germany. They wielded weapons of wood, stone, and bronze to deadly effect: Over the past decade, archaeologists have unearthed the skeletal remains of hundreds of people buried in marshy soil. It’s one of the largest prehistoric conflicts ever discovered.

Now, genetic testing of the skeletons reveals the homelands of the warriors—and unearths a shocker about early European diets: These soldiers couldn’t digest fresh milk.

—-

The headline is very misleading in a couple of ways.

Firstly, this was a study of 14 skeletons from one battle. It can’t tell us anything about the generality of the population of Bronze Age Europe. Even today there are European populations with such low levels of lactase persistence that it would be unsurprising if 14 randomly selected individuals did not have that trait.

Secondly, lactose intolerance is not the same as the lack of genetic markers for lactase persistence. Plenty of lactose intolerant people have this genetic trait, and plenty of people without this trait are not lactose intolerant. 5 out of 6 Greek people do not have the lactase persistence genotype but most of them eat feta just fine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence

Isn’t milk tolerance something recent anyway

I mean… this study is part of the effort to answer that question.

Here’s a previous study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4918750/
A genome-wide scan for selection using DNA gathered from 230 ancient West Eurasians who lived between 6500 and 300 BCE found that the earliest appearance of the allele responsible for lactase persistence occurred in an individual who lived in central Europe between 2450 and 2140 BCE

Did they get a name for this bastard?

transition said:

someone needs do jobsies, and get more wood

we’ve got cold days coming up lady says

I haven’t had a woodheater fire for the last two winters so have heaps of firewood in the two woodheaps.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Cymek said:

Isn’t milk tolerance something recent anyway

I mean… this study is part of the effort to answer that question.

Here’s a previous study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4918750/
A genome-wide scan for selection using DNA gathered from 230 ancient West Eurasians who lived between 6500 and 300 BCE found that the earliest appearance of the allele responsible for lactase persistence occurred in an individual who lived in central Europe between 2450 and 2140 BCE

Did they get a name for this bastard?

Teatsucker XI

dv said:

Michael V said:

The remaining hose hangers have been installed. The bread is proving at ~45°C in the oven and has been for nearly two hours now.

Rigorous

I’m trying.

My mother said this: “You’re trying, very trying”.

Peak Warming Man said:

The first day of the test at Lords is a stark reminder of the effect slap and tickle cricket is having on the proper game.

Please explain.

And where do you get information from?

Tamb said:

transition said:

someone needs do jobsies, and get more wood

we’ve got cold days coming up lady says

I haven’t had a woodheater fire for the last two winters so have heaps of firewood in the two woodheaps.

still plenty out there but need keep building it up, not want to get all depleted, end up woodless, or stumpless, phlogistonless, a barrenness of ready convenient carbonaceous burnables, yeah there’s the threat of coldness, horrors of coldness

I reckons i’m descended of people that mostly avoided death that way, what my instincts incline to believe

Wood is a renewable.

Peak Warming Man said:

Wood is a renewable.

Facts

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Wood is a renewable.

Facts

It’s also a fairly stable carbon sequestration medium.

dv said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Wood is a renewable.

Facts

It’s also a fairly stable carbon sequestration medium.

Round here that’s a bit of an illusion.
What I don’t burn in the woodheater or controlled burnoffs is taken by wildfires.

dv said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Wood is a renewable.

Facts

It’s also a fairly stable carbon sequestration medium.

I’m writing all this down, you never know when it might come in handy.

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

dv said:

Facts

It’s also a fairly stable carbon sequestration medium.

I’m writing all this down, you never know when it might come in handy.

When you’re testifying against us for instance

dv said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

It’s also a fairly stable carbon sequestration medium.

I’m writing all this down, you never know when it might come in handy.

When you’re testifying against us for instance

Who can say?

Your guilt, you innocence, your very life may depend on the words that appear here today.

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

captain_spalding said:

I’m writing all this down, you never know when it might come in handy.

When you’re testifying against us for instance

Who can say?

Your guilt, you innocence, your very life may depend on the words that appear here today.

Quantum entablement takes care of the rest.

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

When you’re testifying against us for instance

Who can say?

Your guilt, you innocence, your very life may depend on the words that appear here today.

Quantum entablement takes care of the rest.

correction

Quantum entanglement takes care of the rest.

Think there’s anything in the rumours?
The thing is if they are more than just friends it will probably never get out.

A gay MP has been censored by Facebook after sharing an image of LGBTQI+ couples embracing.

Ms Baker added a comment that: “Today we recognise and celebrate” but Facebook blurred the entire poster.

Clicking on it yielded a warning the blur was covering “sensitive content. This photo may show violent or graphic content”. 

A further warning said while the photo didn’t break Facebook’s rules, either its automated technology or someone on its review team had decided it counted as “graphic content” and should be covered “so people can choose whether to see it”.

This category included “animal abuse, death, wounds, someone’s life being threatened suicide and self-harm”. 

Eventually clicking through the warnings did reveal the innocuous poster to adult users, but Facebook rendered it completely invisible to anyone under 18. 

Ms Baker tells us Facebook’s censoring was “unbelievable”.

“I can’t believe that Facebook has done that,” she said, adding the youth demographic who were completely blocked from viewing it were often most in need of support and recognition.

While the poster was deemed unacceptable, links to first-person footage filmed by a white supremacist mass shooter in Buffalo, New York, have been shared countless thousands of times on Facebook since the May 14 massacre of 10 people.

When some users tried to report the links to Facebook, they received messages saying “the post was reviewed, and though it doesn’t go against one of our specific community standards… we understand that it may still be offensive or distasteful to you” and it suggested unfriending or blocking the person who’d posted it.

https://perthvoiceinteractive.com/2022/05/19/mp-runs-foul-of-facebook-censors/

Peak Warming Man said:

Think there’s anything in the rumours?
The thing is if they are more than just friends it will probably never get out.

Probably break if they did anything

Peak Warming Man said:

Think there’s anything in the rumours?
The thing is if they are more than just friends it will probably never get out.

That’s her first cousin which even by the standards of the Royal Family would be pushing it these days

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Think there’s anything in the rumours?
The thing is if they are more than just friends it will probably never get out.

That’s her first cousin which even by the standards of the Royal Family would be pushing it these days

Does he have to look half dead?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

Who can say?

Your guilt, you innocence, your very life may depend on the words that appear here today.

Quantum entablement takes care of the rest.

correction

Quantum entanglement takes care of the rest.

Pity.

I thought you had a new theory,

dv said:

A gay MP has been censored by Facebook after sharing an image of LGBTQI+ couples embracing.

Ms Baker added a comment that: “Today we recognise and celebrate” but Facebook blurred the entire poster.

Clicking on it yielded a warning the blur was covering “sensitive content. This photo may show violent or graphic content”. 

A further warning said while the photo didn’t break Facebook’s rules, either its automated technology or someone on its review team had decided it counted as “graphic content” and should be covered “so people can choose whether to see it”.

This category included “animal abuse, death, wounds, someone’s life being threatened suicide and self-harm”. 

Eventually clicking through the warnings did reveal the innocuous poster to adult users, but Facebook rendered it completely invisible to anyone under 18. 

Ms Baker tells us Facebook’s censoring was “unbelievable”.

“I can’t believe that Facebook has done that,” she said, adding the youth demographic who were completely blocked from viewing it were often most in need of support and recognition.

While the poster was deemed unacceptable, links to first-person footage filmed by a white supremacist mass shooter in Buffalo, New York, have been shared countless thousands of times on Facebook since the May 14 massacre of 10 people.

When some users tried to report the links to Facebook, they received messages saying “the post was reviewed, and though it doesn’t go against one of our specific community standards… we understand that it may still be offensive or distasteful to you” and it suggested unfriending or blocking the person who’d posted it.

https://perthvoiceinteractive.com/2022/05/19/mp-runs-foul-of-facebook-censors/

I don’t know.

What does Elon think about this?

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Quantum entablement takes care of the rest.

correction

Quantum entanglement takes care of the rest.

Pity.

I thought you had a new theory,

A new theory would be refreshing.

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Think there’s anything in the rumours?
The thing is if they are more than just friends it will probably never get out.

That’s her first cousin which even by the standards of the Royal Family would be pushing it these days

Does he have to look half dead?

He’s like really old dude…

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

A gay MP has been censored by Facebook after sharing an image of LGBTQI+ couples embracing.

Ms Baker added a comment that: “Today we recognise and celebrate” but Facebook blurred the entire poster.

Clicking on it yielded a warning the blur was covering “sensitive content. This photo may show violent or graphic content”. 

A further warning said while the photo didn’t break Facebook’s rules, either its automated technology or someone on its review team had decided it counted as “graphic content” and should be covered “so people can choose whether to see it”.

This category included “animal abuse, death, wounds, someone’s life being threatened suicide and self-harm”. 

Eventually clicking through the warnings did reveal the innocuous poster to adult users, but Facebook rendered it completely invisible to anyone under 18. 

Ms Baker tells us Facebook’s censoring was “unbelievable”.

“I can’t believe that Facebook has done that,” she said, adding the youth demographic who were completely blocked from viewing it were often most in need of support and recognition.

While the poster was deemed unacceptable, links to first-person footage filmed by a white supremacist mass shooter in Buffalo, New York, have been shared countless thousands of times on Facebook since the May 14 massacre of 10 people.

When some users tried to report the links to Facebook, they received messages saying “the post was reviewed, and though it doesn’t go against one of our specific community standards… we understand that it may still be offensive or distasteful to you” and it suggested unfriending or blocking the person who’d posted it.

https://perthvoiceinteractive.com/2022/05/19/mp-runs-foul-of-facebook-censors/

I don’t know.

What does Elon think about this?

He will send it to space.

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Think there’s anything in the rumours?
The thing is if they are more than just friends it will probably never get out.

That’s her first cousin which even by the standards of the Royal Family would be pushing it these days

Does he have to look half dead?

I thought they’d wheeled out a mummy of Prince Phil for a minute.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

That’s her first cousin which even by the standards of the Royal Family would be pushing it these days

Does he have to look half dead?

He’s like really old dude…

Her ex looked half dead too.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

That’s her first cousin which even by the standards of the Royal Family would be pushing it these days

Does he have to look half dead?

I thought they’d wheeled out a mummy of Prince Phil for a minute.

Maybe its a fetish, this half dead thing?

Hard to tell.

dv said:

A gay MP has been censored by Facebook after sharing an image of LGBTQI+ couples embracing.

Ms Baker added a comment that: “Today we recognise and celebrate” but Facebook blurred the entire poster.

Clicking on it yielded a warning the blur was covering “sensitive content. This photo may show violent or graphic content”. 

A further warning said while the photo didn’t break Facebook’s rules, either its automated technology or someone on its review team had decided it counted as “graphic content” and should be covered “so people can choose whether to see it”.

This category included “animal abuse, death, wounds, someone’s life being threatened suicide and self-harm”. 

Eventually clicking through the warnings did reveal the innocuous poster to adult users, but Facebook rendered it completely invisible to anyone under 18. 

Ms Baker tells us Facebook’s censoring was “unbelievable”.

“I can’t believe that Facebook has done that,” she said, adding the youth demographic who were completely blocked from viewing it were often most in need of support and recognition.

While the poster was deemed unacceptable, links to first-person footage filmed by a white supremacist mass shooter in Buffalo, New York, have been shared countless thousands of times on Facebook since the May 14 massacre of 10 people.

When some users tried to report the links to Facebook, they received messages saying “the post was reviewed, and though it doesn’t go against one of our specific community standards… we understand that it may still be offensive or distasteful to you” and it suggested unfriending or blocking the person who’d posted it.

https://perthvoiceinteractive.com/2022/05/19/mp-runs-foul-of-facebook-censors/

If you have a policy that some things may offend some people, well then you can’t decide who is or is not offended. I mean a white Christian straight conservative male can be just as offended as a raging lesbian black handicapped fundamentalist progressive communist.

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Does he have to look half dead?

I thought they’d wheeled out a mummy of Prince Phil for a minute.

Maybe its a fetish, this half dead thing?

Hard to tell.

The Walking Dead – Royal Family edition

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

A gay MP has been censored by Facebook after sharing an image of LGBTQI+ couples embracing.

Ms Baker added a comment that: “Today we recognise and celebrate” but Facebook blurred the entire poster.

Clicking on it yielded a warning the blur was covering “sensitive content. This photo may show violent or graphic content”. 

A further warning said while the photo didn’t break Facebook’s rules, either its automated technology or someone on its review team had decided it counted as “graphic content” and should be covered “so people can choose whether to see it”.

This category included “animal abuse, death, wounds, someone’s life being threatened suicide and self-harm”. 

Eventually clicking through the warnings did reveal the innocuous poster to adult users, but Facebook rendered it completely invisible to anyone under 18. 

Ms Baker tells us Facebook’s censoring was “unbelievable”.

“I can’t believe that Facebook has done that,” she said, adding the youth demographic who were completely blocked from viewing it were often most in need of support and recognition.

While the poster was deemed unacceptable, links to first-person footage filmed by a white supremacist mass shooter in Buffalo, New York, have been shared countless thousands of times on Facebook since the May 14 massacre of 10 people.

When some users tried to report the links to Facebook, they received messages saying “the post was reviewed, and though it doesn’t go against one of our specific community standards… we understand that it may still be offensive or distasteful to you” and it suggested unfriending or blocking the person who’d posted it.

https://perthvoiceinteractive.com/2022/05/19/mp-runs-foul-of-facebook-censors/

If you have a policy that some things may offend some people, well then you can’t decide who is or is not offended. I mean a white Christian straight conservative male can be just as offended as a raging lesbian black handicapped fundamentalist progressive communist.

People are too sensitive, they need to lighten up.

They killed people in the middle ages for being offended, and in some places they still do.

dv said:

A gay MP has been censored by Facebook after sharing an image of LGBTQI+ couples embracing.

Ms Baker added a comment that: “Today we recognise and celebrate” but Facebook blurred the entire poster.

Clicking on it yielded a warning the blur was covering “sensitive content. This photo may show violent or graphic content”. 

A further warning said while the photo didn’t break Facebook’s rules, either its automated technology or someone on its review team had decided it counted as “graphic content” and should be covered “so people can choose whether to see it”.

This category included “animal abuse, death, wounds, someone’s life being threatened suicide and self-harm”. 

Eventually clicking through the warnings did reveal the innocuous poster to adult users, but Facebook rendered it completely invisible to anyone under 18. 

Ms Baker tells us Facebook’s censoring was “unbelievable”.

“I can’t believe that Facebook has done that,” she said, adding the youth demographic who were completely blocked from viewing it were often most in need of support and recognition.

While the poster was deemed unacceptable, links to first-person footage filmed by a white supremacist mass shooter in Buffalo, New York, have been shared countless thousands of times on Facebook since the May 14 massacre of 10 people.

When some users tried to report the links to Facebook, they received messages saying “the post was reviewed, and though it doesn’t go against one of our specific community standards… we understand that it may still be offensive or distasteful to you” and it suggested unfriending or blocking the person who’d posted it.

https://perthvoiceinteractive.com/2022/05/19/mp-runs-foul-of-facebook-censors/

I’m pretty sure the auto-censoring thing happens if enough people report the content.
While I personally have no issues with it, I think the system is an effective one.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

A gay MP has been censored by Facebook after sharing an image of LGBTQI+ couples embracing.

Ms Baker added a comment that: “Today we recognise and celebrate” but Facebook blurred the entire poster.

Clicking on it yielded a warning the blur was covering “sensitive content. This photo may show violent or graphic content”. 

A further warning said while the photo didn’t break Facebook’s rules, either its automated technology or someone on its review team had decided it counted as “graphic content” and should be covered “so people can choose whether to see it”.

This category included “animal abuse, death, wounds, someone’s life being threatened suicide and self-harm”. 

Eventually clicking through the warnings did reveal the innocuous poster to adult users, but Facebook rendered it completely invisible to anyone under 18. 

Ms Baker tells us Facebook’s censoring was “unbelievable”.

“I can’t believe that Facebook has done that,” she said, adding the youth demographic who were completely blocked from viewing it were often most in need of support and recognition.

While the poster was deemed unacceptable, links to first-person footage filmed by a white supremacist mass shooter in Buffalo, New York, have been shared countless thousands of times on Facebook since the May 14 massacre of 10 people.

When some users tried to report the links to Facebook, they received messages saying “the post was reviewed, and though it doesn’t go against one of our specific community standards… we understand that it may still be offensive or distasteful to you” and it suggested unfriending or blocking the person who’d posted it.

https://perthvoiceinteractive.com/2022/05/19/mp-runs-foul-of-facebook-censors/

If you have a policy that some things may offend some people, well then you can’t decide who is or is not offended. I mean a white Christian straight conservative male can be just as offended as a raging lesbian black handicapped fundamentalist progressive communist.

Surely policies regarding potentially offensive items have to be consistent? Is a picture of a gay couple kissing at their wedding going to result in straight couples wedding pictures being flagged as well?

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I thought they’d wheeled out a mummy of Prince Phil for a minute.

Maybe its a fetish, this half dead thing?

Hard to tell.

The Walking Dead – Royal Family edition

I look forward to the Royal family necrophilia edition.

Which will probably come out after the Queen dies.

Dark Orange said:

dv said:

A gay MP has been censored by Facebook after sharing an image of LGBTQI+ couples embracing.

Ms Baker added a comment that: “Today we recognise and celebrate” but Facebook blurred the entire poster.

Clicking on it yielded a warning the blur was covering “sensitive content. This photo may show violent or graphic content”. 

A further warning said while the photo didn’t break Facebook’s rules, either its automated technology or someone on its review team had decided it counted as “graphic content” and should be covered “so people can choose whether to see it”.

This category included “animal abuse, death, wounds, someone’s life being threatened suicide and self-harm”. 

Eventually clicking through the warnings did reveal the innocuous poster to adult users, but Facebook rendered it completely invisible to anyone under 18. 

Ms Baker tells us Facebook’s censoring was “unbelievable”.

“I can’t believe that Facebook has done that,” she said, adding the youth demographic who were completely blocked from viewing it were often most in need of support and recognition.

While the poster was deemed unacceptable, links to first-person footage filmed by a white supremacist mass shooter in Buffalo, New York, have been shared countless thousands of times on Facebook since the May 14 massacre of 10 people.

When some users tried to report the links to Facebook, they received messages saying “the post was reviewed, and though it doesn’t go against one of our specific community standards… we understand that it may still be offensive or distasteful to you” and it suggested unfriending or blocking the person who’d posted it.

https://perthvoiceinteractive.com/2022/05/19/mp-runs-foul-of-facebook-censors/

I’m pretty sure the auto-censoring thing happens if enough people report the content.
While I personally have no issues with it, I think the system is an effective one.

It’s pretty harmless, looks like a religious pamphlet cover

Witty Rejoinder said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

A gay MP has been censored by Facebook after sharing an image of LGBTQI+ couples embracing.

Ms Baker added a comment that: “Today we recognise and celebrate” but Facebook blurred the entire poster.

Clicking on it yielded a warning the blur was covering “sensitive content. This photo may show violent or graphic content”. 

A further warning said while the photo didn’t break Facebook’s rules, either its automated technology or someone on its review team had decided it counted as “graphic content” and should be covered “so people can choose whether to see it”.

This category included “animal abuse, death, wounds, someone’s life being threatened suicide and self-harm”. 

Eventually clicking through the warnings did reveal the innocuous poster to adult users, but Facebook rendered it completely invisible to anyone under 18. 

Ms Baker tells us Facebook’s censoring was “unbelievable”.

“I can’t believe that Facebook has done that,” she said, adding the youth demographic who were completely blocked from viewing it were often most in need of support and recognition.

While the poster was deemed unacceptable, links to first-person footage filmed by a white supremacist mass shooter in Buffalo, New York, have been shared countless thousands of times on Facebook since the May 14 massacre of 10 people.

When some users tried to report the links to Facebook, they received messages saying “the post was reviewed, and though it doesn’t go against one of our specific community standards… we understand that it may still be offensive or distasteful to you” and it suggested unfriending or blocking the person who’d posted it.

https://perthvoiceinteractive.com/2022/05/19/mp-runs-foul-of-facebook-censors/

If you have a policy that some things may offend some people, well then you can’t decide who is or is not offended. I mean a white Christian straight conservative male can be just as offended as a raging lesbian black handicapped fundamentalist progressive communist.

Surely policies regarding potentially offensive items have to be consistent? Is a picture of a gay couple kissing at their wedding going to result in straight couples wedding pictures being flagged as well?

If enough people flag it as being offensive, then yes.

Cymek said:

Dark Orange said:

dv said:

A gay MP has been censored by Facebook after sharing an image of LGBTQI+ couples embracing.

Ms Baker added a comment that: “Today we recognise and celebrate” but Facebook blurred the entire poster.

Clicking on it yielded a warning the blur was covering “sensitive content. This photo may show violent or graphic content”. 

A further warning said while the photo didn’t break Facebook’s rules, either its automated technology or someone on its review team had decided it counted as “graphic content” and should be covered “so people can choose whether to see it”.

This category included “animal abuse, death, wounds, someone’s life being threatened suicide and self-harm”. 

Eventually clicking through the warnings did reveal the innocuous poster to adult users, but Facebook rendered it completely invisible to anyone under 18. 

Ms Baker tells us Facebook’s censoring was “unbelievable”.

“I can’t believe that Facebook has done that,” she said, adding the youth demographic who were completely blocked from viewing it were often most in need of support and recognition.

While the poster was deemed unacceptable, links to first-person footage filmed by a white supremacist mass shooter in Buffalo, New York, have been shared countless thousands of times on Facebook since the May 14 massacre of 10 people.

When some users tried to report the links to Facebook, they received messages saying “the post was reviewed, and though it doesn’t go against one of our specific community standards… we understand that it may still be offensive or distasteful to you” and it suggested unfriending or blocking the person who’d posted it.

https://perthvoiceinteractive.com/2022/05/19/mp-runs-foul-of-facebook-censors/

I’m pretty sure the auto-censoring thing happens if enough people report the content.
While I personally have no issues with it, I think the system is an effective one.

It’s pretty harmless, looks like a religious pamphlet cover

Which Elon will send to space.

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Think there’s anything in the rumours?
The thing is if they are more than just friends it will probably never get out.

That’s her first cousin which even by the standards of the Royal Family would be pushing it these days

I’m not as familiar with English law as I am with Australian, but under Australian marriage law first cousins can marry.

btm said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Think there’s anything in the rumours?
The thing is if they are more than just friends it will probably never get out.

That’s her first cousin which even by the standards of the Royal Family would be pushing it these days

I’m not as familiar with English law as I am with Australian, but under Australian marriage law first cousins can marry.

What if the cousin has say been twice removed?

Peak Warming Man said:

btm said:

dv said:

That’s her first cousin which even by the standards of the Royal Family would be pushing it these days

I’m not as familiar with English law as I am with Australian, but under Australian marriage law first cousins can marry.

What if the cousin has say been twice removed?

They can photoshop him back in, its easy these days.

Peak Warming Man said:

btm said:

dv said:

That’s her first cousin which even by the standards of the Royal Family would be pushing it these days

I’m not as familiar with English law as I am with Australian, but under Australian marriage law first cousins can marry.

What if the cousin has say been twice removed?

if they haven’t got the message after that then it is time to change the locks.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Peak Warming Man said:

btm said:

I’m not as familiar with English law as I am with Australian, but under Australian marriage law first cousins can marry.

What if the cousin has say been twice removed?

They can photoshop him back in, its easy these days.

They’ve photoshopped out vestigial limbs from the royals due to inbreeding

Dark Orange said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Peak Warming Man said:

If you have a policy that some things may offend some people, well then you can’t decide who is or is not offended. I mean a white Christian straight conservative male can be just as offended as a raging lesbian black handicapped fundamentalist progressive communist.

Surely policies regarding potentially offensive items have to be consistent? Is a picture of a gay couple kissing at their wedding going to result in straight couples wedding pictures being flagged as well?

If enough people flag it as being offensive, then yes.

I suppose it is up to the tech companies to decide whether they want to censor content deemed acceptable to a mainstream audience because of the outdated views of an increasingly marginal minority.

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Peak Warming Man said:

What if the cousin has say been twice removed?

They can photoshop him back in, its easy these days.

They’ve photoshopped out vestigial limbs from the royals due to inbreeding

I think they take vanity too seriously, too much vanity causes inbreeding and maybe its hard for them to diversify?

btm said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Think there’s anything in the rumours?
The thing is if they are more than just friends it will probably never get out.

That’s her first cousin which even by the standards of the Royal Family would be pushing it these days

I’m not as familiar with English law as I am with Australian, but under Australian marriage law first cousins can marry.

I think it is a church thing. Presbyterian cousins can marry but cathoic cousins can’t I believe.

btm said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Think there’s anything in the rumours?
The thing is if they are more than just friends it will probably never get out.

That’s her first cousin which even by the standards of the Royal Family would be pushing it these days

I’m not as familiar with English law as I am with Australian, but under Australian marriage law first cousins can marry.

In England too, but it would probably meet with some consternation in this case…

I’ve got a bit more of the cockatoo filet crochet curtain done. It’s almost got a whole head now. And most of its wings.

The horrid headache I’ve had all day is starting to ease off, try to stick it out but had to take strong painkillers to help

Cymek said:

The horrid headache I’ve had all day is starting to ease off, try to stick it out but had to take strong painkillers to help

Migraine?

Peak Warming Man said:

Cymek said:

The horrid headache I’ve had all day is starting to ease off, try to stick it out but had to take strong painkillers to help

Migraine?

Tumour…

I see Andy Divine has died, must have been a good age.
I remember him from Stagecoach and many other movies.

Peak Warming Man said:

I see Andy Divine has died, must have been a good age.
I remember him from Stagecoach and many other movies.

I don’t think Andy was ever out of work.

Peak Warming Man said:

Cymek said:

The horrid headache I’ve had all day is starting to ease off, try to stick it out but had to take strong painkillers to help

Migraine?

Not sure, don’t usually get them but was hurting behind my eyes

“Colin Cantwell, who has died aged 90 after suffering from Alzheimer’s disease, brought his skills as a concept artist and model designer to the Star Wars film universe by creating spaceships, stations and vehicles that have passed into sci-fi legend.”

Col’s passed on.

first doggo

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/03/seventy-years-the-queen-is-it-because-she-has-not-had-to-work-a-single-day-in-her-life

sarahs mum said:

first doggo

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/03/seventy-years-the-queen-is-it-because-she-has-not-had-to-work-a-single-day-in-her-life

The wastrel has never changed a nappy or made a cup of tea.

Peak Warming Man said:

“Colin Cantwell, who has died aged 90 after suffering from Alzheimer’s disease, brought his skills as a concept artist and model designer to the Star Wars film universe by creating spaceships, stations and vehicles that have passed into sci-fi legend.”

Col’s passed on.

Practical models are pretty cool

Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

first doggo

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/03/seventy-years-the-queen-is-it-because-she-has-not-had-to-work-a-single-day-in-her-life

The wastrel has never changed a nappy or made a cup of tea.

Didn’t she work in factory during the war

Food report. I have put together a tuna casserole. It’s in the oven now. Later I’ll put a crumb topping on it of focaccia crumbs. I’m also going to make an orange cake and ice it with passionfruit icing.

Tonight series 3 of The Orville starts. Viceland at 8.30pm.

buffy said:

Food report. I have put together a tuna casserole. It’s in the oven now. Later I’ll put a crumb topping on it of focaccia crumbs. I’m also going to make an orange cake and ice it with passionfruit icing.

Tonight series 3 of The Orville starts. Viceland at 8.30pm.

I’m waiting to see if they encounter a villain with the voice of Stewie Griffin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruBczx4lxLs

Link

First Run!! Home-Made Compressed Air Locomotive For The Field Railway

God damn it I was going to look up a modern suffix but now I can’t remember which one.

dv said:

God damn it I was going to look up a modern suffix but now I can’t remember which one.

Suffixgate…

Pretty sure it has three letters

https://youtu.be/6etTERFUlUI

Approx 3.20. that name rings a bell… Old sssf person?

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

https://youtu.be/6etTERFUlUI

Approx 3.20. that name rings a bell… Old sssf person?

yes. Cusp.

Boris said:

Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

https://youtu.be/6etTERFUlUI

Approx 3.20. that name rings a bell… Old sssf person?

yes. Cusp.

Ahh ok then. He must be SMRT to be a professor.

Cymek said:

buffy said:

Food report. I have put together a tuna casserole. It’s in the oven now. Later I’ll put a crumb topping on it of focaccia crumbs. I’m also going to make an orange cake and ice it with passionfruit icing.

Tonight series 3 of The Orville starts. Viceland at 8.30pm.

I’m waiting to see if they encounter a villain with the voice of Stewie Griffin

I’ve never seen Family Guy. I had to look that up. And I’m still not really any the wiser.

buffy said:

Cymek said:

buffy said:

Food report. I have put together a tuna casserole. It’s in the oven now. Later I’ll put a crumb topping on it of focaccia crumbs. I’m also going to make an orange cake and ice it with passionfruit icing.

Tonight series 3 of The Orville starts. Viceland at 8.30pm.

I’m waiting to see if they encounter a villain with the voice of Stewie Griffin

I’ve never seen Family Guy. I had to look that up. And I’m still not really any the wiser.

it was better than the simpsons.

buffy said:

Cymek said:

buffy said:

Food report. I have put together a tuna casserole. It’s in the oven now. Later I’ll put a crumb topping on it of focaccia crumbs. I’m also going to make an orange cake and ice it with passionfruit icing.

Tonight series 3 of The Orville starts. Viceland at 8.30pm.

I’m waiting to see if they encounter a villain with the voice of Stewie Griffin

I’ve never seen Family Guy. I had to look that up. And I’m still not really any the wiser.

Seth McFarlane (the captain of The Orville) voices a number of characters on Family Guy one of them is Stewie the evil talking baby genius
I thought it would be amusing for them to encounter an alien with his voice