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Environment Minister Meaghan Scanlon said the funding would expand the state’s koala habitat restoration program, help reduce the threat to koalas in hotspots, support the development of a koala sighting app for communities to collect population data, invest in ongoing scientific research and support on-ground conversation project.

However, the Australian Koala Foundation’s Deborah Tabart said the new funding was a “band-aid solution” that did not address the real reason the koalas were endangered.

“If you don’t stop the trees coming down, our koalas are doomed,” she said.

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(Shrugs)

if there’s any Koalas in the world that can use money, it’s US Koalas, the fascist free market is strong in those ones

What they need is fewer bushfires.

mollwollfumble said:

What they need is fewer bushfires.

That clearly would help. However, it is not an excuse to plough trees into the ground.

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

What they need is fewer bushfires.

That clearly would help. However, it is not an excuse to plough trees into the ground.

no bushfires when there’s no bush

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

What they need is fewer bushfires.

That clearly would help. However, it is not an excuse to plough trees into the ground.

Nobody does that. Not for the past 30 years.

Really, bushfire elimination in koala country is the one and only priority.

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

What they need is fewer bushfires.

That clearly would help. However, it is not an excuse to plough trees into the ground.

Nobody does that. Not for the past 30 years.

Really, bushfire elimination in koala country is the one and only priority.

Bullshit. The power lines are nowadays regularly mulched under. In that a machine goes along knocks all the trees down shreds and mulches them into the ground. I know this is part of the knee jerk reaction to some bushfires being ignited by badly maintained power line infrastructure. It was not the fault of the native vegetation. In NSW at least, this represents a large proportion of the remnant native vegetation. Weeds will now grow where the shrubbery was demolished. These weeds are more likely to catch fire when dry.

In Australia our satellites have informed us that the land has been cleared more in the past 30 years than it has been in the whole time since colonisation. There is no stopping the destruction happening at all.

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

That clearly would help. However, it is not an excuse to plough trees into the ground.

Nobody does that. Not for the past 30 years.

Really, bushfire elimination in koala country is the one and only priority.

Bullshit. The power lines are nowadays regularly mulched under. In that a machine goes along knocks all the trees down shreds and mulches them into the ground. I know this is part of the knee jerk reaction to some bushfires being ignited by badly maintained power line infrastructure. It was not the fault of the native vegetation. In NSW at least, this represents a large proportion of the remnant native vegetation. Weeds will now grow where the shrubbery was demolished. These weeds are more likely to catch fire when dry.

In Australia our satellites have informed us that the land has been cleared more in the past 30 years than it has been in the whole time since colonisation. There is no stopping the destruction happening at all.

So on the one side we have the contention that there has been no clearing of native forests over tha last 30 years, and on the other that clearing under power lines representa a large proportion of the remnant native vegetation.

I am somewhat sceptical of both.

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

That clearly would help. However, it is not an excuse to plough trees into the ground.

Nobody does that. Not for the past 30 years.

Really, bushfire elimination in koala country is the one and only priority.

Bullshit. The power lines are nowadays regularly mulched under. In that a machine goes along knocks all the trees down shreds and mulches them into the ground. I know this is part of the knee jerk reaction to some bushfires being ignited by badly maintained power line infrastructure. It was not the fault of the native vegetation. In NSW at least, this represents a large proportion of the remnant native vegetation. Weeds will now grow where the shrubbery was demolished. These weeds are more likely to catch fire when dry.

In Australia our satellites have informed us that the land has been cleared more in the past 30 years than it has been in the whole time since colonisation. There is no stopping the destruction happening at all.

Are you talking about the big lines? The lines to/from Portland for the smelter are simply grazed under. They run the local sheep or cows through periodically to pick down the green grass.

PS…fresh koala scat on top of the chook house this morning. And Mr buffy says he heard Mr Grunty in the backyard again last night. Must be cold, miserable and very sway-y up in the big gums at the moment.

You need something that gets rid of chlamydia/ diseases affecting the population

Stop deforestation, property developers kill plenty of koalas.

Slash the military budget and use the money for hands on conservation – the war with China has already been lost.

No more spending on “stadiums” and other garbage

Declare a war on weeds, cane toads, foxes, feral rabbits, feral cats, rats

wookiemeister said:

You need something that gets rid of chlamydia/ diseases affecting the population

Stop deforestation, property developers kill plenty of koalas.

Slash the military budget and use the money for hands on conservation – the war with China has already been lost.

No more spending on “stadiums” and other garbage

Declare a war on weeds, cane toads, foxes, feral rabbits, feral cats, rats

I’ll vote for that.

PermeateFree said:

wookiemeister said:

You need something that gets rid of chlamydia/ diseases affecting the population

Stop deforestation, property developers kill plenty of koalas.

Slash the military budget and use the money for hands on conservation – the war with China has already been lost.

No more spending on “stadiums” and other garbage

Declare a war on weeds, cane toads, foxes, feral rabbits, feral cats, rats

I’ll vote for that.

Is it the first time wookie has made a sensible post?

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Nobody does that. Not for the past 30 years.

Really, bushfire elimination in koala country is the one and only priority.

Bullshit. The power lines are nowadays regularly mulched under. In that a machine goes along knocks all the trees down shreds and mulches them into the ground. I know this is part of the knee jerk reaction to some bushfires being ignited by badly maintained power line infrastructure. It was not the fault of the native vegetation. In NSW at least, this represents a large proportion of the remnant native vegetation. Weeds will now grow where the shrubbery was demolished. These weeds are more likely to catch fire when dry.

In Australia our satellites have informed us that the land has been cleared more in the past 30 years than it has been in the whole time since colonisation. There is no stopping the destruction happening at all.

So on the one side we have the contention that there has been no clearing of native forests over tha last 30 years, and on the other that clearing under power lines representa a large proportion of the remnant native vegetation.

I am somewhat sceptical of both.

But that’d be because there is an elemet of no fucking idea.

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

Nobody does that. Not for the past 30 years.

Really, bushfire elimination in koala country is the one and only priority.

Bullshit. The power lines are nowadays regularly mulched under. In that a machine goes along knocks all the trees down shreds and mulches them into the ground. I know this is part of the knee jerk reaction to some bushfires being ignited by badly maintained power line infrastructure. It was not the fault of the native vegetation. In NSW at least, this represents a large proportion of the remnant native vegetation. Weeds will now grow where the shrubbery was demolished. These weeds are more likely to catch fire when dry.

In Australia our satellites have informed us that the land has been cleared more in the past 30 years than it has been in the whole time since colonisation. There is no stopping the destruction happening at all.

Are you talking about the big lines? The lines to/from Portland for the smelter are simply grazed under. They run the local sheep or cows through periodically to pick down the green grass.

No. I am talking about roadside remnant veg in particular. Something I actually wrote a book on.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

Bullshit. The power lines are nowadays regularly mulched under. In that a machine goes along knocks all the trees down shreds and mulches them into the ground. I know this is part of the knee jerk reaction to some bushfires being ignited by badly maintained power line infrastructure. It was not the fault of the native vegetation. In NSW at least, this represents a large proportion of the remnant native vegetation. Weeds will now grow where the shrubbery was demolished. These weeds are more likely to catch fire when dry.

In Australia our satellites have informed us that the land has been cleared more in the past 30 years than it has been in the whole time since colonisation. There is no stopping the destruction happening at all.

So on the one side we have the contention that there has been no clearing of native forests over tha last 30 years, and on the other that clearing under power lines representa a large proportion of the remnant native vegetation.

I am somewhat sceptical of both.

But that’d be because there is an elemet of no fucking idea.

If you had read the statement, you’d be aware that the roadside veg in NSW under powerlines does represent a large proportion of the native vegetaion that remains extant.
That the clearing of native forests related to forests Australia wide rather than just NSW roadside veg, though it is largely in Queensland that the latter above has occurred.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Bullshit. The power lines are nowadays regularly mulched under. In that a machine goes along knocks all the trees down shreds and mulches them into the ground. I know this is part of the knee jerk reaction to some bushfires being ignited by badly maintained power line infrastructure. It was not the fault of the native vegetation. In NSW at least, this represents a large proportion of the remnant native vegetation. Weeds will now grow where the shrubbery was demolished. These weeds are more likely to catch fire when dry.

In Australia our satellites have informed us that the land has been cleared more in the past 30 years than it has been in the whole time since colonisation. There is no stopping the destruction happening at all.

Are you talking about the big lines? The lines to/from Portland for the smelter are simply grazed under. They run the local sheep or cows through periodically to pick down the green grass.

No. I am talking about roadside remnant veg in particular. Something I actually wrote a book on.

I’ve never heard of roadside mulching. Sometimes they clear the blackberries and cut back the trees from the power lines. But the stuff all goes into big commercial truck chippers.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So on the one side we have the contention that there has been no clearing of native forests over tha last 30 years, and on the other that clearing under power lines representa a large proportion of the remnant native vegetation.

I am somewhat sceptical of both.

But that’d be because there is an elemet of no fucking idea.

If you had read the statement, you’d be aware that the roadside veg in NSW under powerlines does represent a large proportion of the native vegetaion that remains extant.
That the clearing of native forests related to forests Australia wide rather than just NSW roadside veg, though it is largely in Queensland that the latter above has occurred.

What is the % (area roadside veg under power lines/total area native vegetation)?

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Are you talking about the big lines? The lines to/from Portland for the smelter are simply grazed under. They run the local sheep or cows through periodically to pick down the green grass.

No. I am talking about roadside remnant veg in particular. Something I actually wrote a book on.

I’ve never heard of roadside mulching. Sometimes they clear the blackberries and cut back the trees from the power lines. But the stuff all goes into big commercial truck chippers.

Different power companies, different contractors. Asplundh are the American contractors who are mulching whole forests under powerlines. It is excessive clearing essentially.
They don’t need to have a scorched earth policy. They simply need to maintain their infrastructure prooperly and keep dangerous trees away.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

But that’d be because there is an elemet of no fucking idea.

If you had read the statement, you’d be aware that the roadside veg in NSW under powerlines does represent a large proportion of the native vegetaion that remains extant.
That the clearing of native forests related to forests Australia wide rather than just NSW roadside veg, though it is largely in Queensland that the latter above has occurred.

What is the % (area roadside veg under power lines/total area native vegetation)?

Total area in NSW is limited to National Parks/crown lands and roadsides. The other remnants on farms are insignificant remnants on the scale of total area.
The powerlines don’t cover every inch of roadsides but they do travel along vast distances of roadsides.

At the time of my work, the total area of remnant vegetation in NSW was 10% of the total area and roadsides made up half of that.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

But that’d be because there is an elemet of no fucking idea.

If you had read the statement, you’d be aware that the roadside veg in NSW under powerlines does represent a large proportion of the native vegetaion that remains extant.
That the clearing of native forests related to forests Australia wide rather than just NSW roadside veg, though it is largely in Queensland that the latter above has occurred.

What is the % (area roadside veg under power lines/total area native vegetation)?

This doesn’t help with what you asked, but it gives some information about protected land in NSW.

https://www.bct.nsw.gov.au/private-land-conservation-nsw

(Our bush is covenanted in Victoria and listed with Trust for Nature, which is the Victorian group for private covenanters)

buffy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

If you had read the statement, you’d be aware that the roadside veg in NSW under powerlines does represent a large proportion of the native vegetaion that remains extant.
That the clearing of native forests related to forests Australia wide rather than just NSW roadside veg, though it is largely in Queensland that the latter above has occurred.

What is the % (area roadside veg under power lines/total area native vegetation)?

This doesn’t help with what you asked, but it gives some information about protected land in NSW.

https://www.bct.nsw.gov.au/private-land-conservation-nsw

(Our bush is covenanted in Victoria and listed with Trust for Nature, which is the Victorian group for private covenanters)

Yes. Due to the large amount of cleared land being privately owned land, it is down to these privately owned lands to add to the biodiversity.

How wide a swath do they normally clear in NSW, roughie?

buffy said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

If you had read the statement, you’d be aware that the roadside veg in NSW under powerlines does represent a large proportion of the native vegetaion that remains extant.
That the clearing of native forests related to forests Australia wide rather than just NSW roadside veg, though it is largely in Queensland that the latter above has occurred.

What is the % (area roadside veg under power lines/total area native vegetation)?

This doesn’t help with what you asked, but it gives some information about protected land in NSW.

https://www.bct.nsw.gov.au/private-land-conservation-nsw

(Our bush is covenanted in Victoria and listed with Trust for Nature, which is the Victorian group for private covenanters)

Also found this:
https://www.epa.nsw.gov.au/about-us/publications-and-reports/state-of-the-environment/state-of-the-environment-2015/14-protected-areas

In WA roadsides contain many remnants of native vegetation due to large areas having been cleared for broadacre farming. Reserves are set aside but these are widely scattered and often do not contain the surrounding areas biodiversity and the roadside vegetation is degraded by weeds and road widening activities.

Locally scrub clearing under power poles is done with a machine that has large rotating cutters in front that slashes and rough mulches the vegetation which is left on the ground to rot. It also mean the entire easement is clear felled regardless whether it is a fire hazard or not.

dv said:

How wide a swath do they normally clear in NSW, roughie?

Usually ten metres. If they have room they’ll expand upon that.