Date: 9/06/2022 23:09:05
From: sibeen
ID: 1894247
Subject: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6etTERFUlUI&ab_channel=Veritasium

A Veritasium video that features some bloke who used to post on the SSSF.

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Date: 9/06/2022 23:52:20
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1894266
Subject: re: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

sibeen said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6etTERFUlUI&ab_channel=Veritasium

A Veritasium video that features some bloke who used to post on the SSSF.

I used to be told off by Cusp for excessive hand-waving (philosophising about the cosmos), but these days, when I pay little attention to cosmology ‘cos I find it a bit dull and irrelevant to my passing presence in the place, he seems like a totally addicted hand-waver to me :)

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Date: 9/06/2022 23:57:21
From: transition
ID: 1894269
Subject: re: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

sibeen said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6etTERFUlUI&ab_channel=Veritasium

A Veritasium video that features some bloke who used to post on the SSSF.

watching that, cheers

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Date: 10/06/2022 08:16:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1894325
Subject: re: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6etTERFUlUI&ab_channel=Veritasium

A Veritasium video that features some bloke who used to post on the SSSF.

I used to be told off by Cusp for excessive hand-waving (philosophising about the cosmos), but these days, when I pay little attention to cosmology ‘cos I find it a bit dull and irrelevant to my passing presence in the place, he seems like a totally addicted hand-waver to me :)

OK, but you don’t have a PhD in hand-waving, do you?

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Date: 10/06/2022 08:33:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 1894326
Subject: re: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6etTERFUlUI&ab_channel=Veritasium

A Veritasium video that features some bloke who used to post on the SSSF.

I used to be told off by Cusp for excessive hand-waving (philosophising about the cosmos), but these days, when I pay little attention to cosmology ‘cos I find it a bit dull and irrelevant to my passing presence in the place, he seems like a totally addicted hand-waver to me :)

OK, but you don’t have a PhD in hand-waving, do you?

Who’d be able to read it?

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Date: 10/06/2022 08:36:25
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1894327
Subject: re: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

I used to be told off by Cusp for excessive hand-waving (philosophising about the cosmos), but these days, when I pay little attention to cosmology ‘cos I find it a bit dull and irrelevant to my passing presence in the place, he seems like a totally addicted hand-waver to me :)

OK, but you don’t have a PhD in hand-waving, do you?

Who’d be able to read it?

maybe a deaf person?

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Date: 10/06/2022 08:36:47
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1894328
Subject: re: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

The Rev Dodgson said:


Bubblecar said:

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6etTERFUlUI&ab_channel=Veritasium

A Veritasium video that features some bloke who used to post on the SSSF.

I used to be told off by Cusp for excessive hand-waving (philosophising about the cosmos), but these days, when I pay little attention to cosmology ‘cos I find it a bit dull and irrelevant to my passing presence in the place, he seems like a totally addicted hand-waver to me :)

OK, but you don’t have a PhD in hand-waving, do you?

I was going to say something similar.

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Date: 10/06/2022 08:47:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1894329
Subject: re: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

ChrispenEvan said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, but you don’t have a PhD in hand-waving, do you?

Who’d be able to read it?

maybe a deaf person?

possibly.

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Date: 10/06/2022 11:01:38
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1894379
Subject: re: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

Bubblecar said:


sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6etTERFUlUI&ab_channel=Veritasium

A Veritasium video that features some bloke who used to post on the SSSF.

I used to be told off by Cusp for excessive hand-waving (philosophising about the cosmos), but these days, when I pay little attention to cosmology ‘cos I find it a bit dull and irrelevant to my passing presence in the place, he seems like a totally addicted hand-waver to me :)

> I used to be told off by Cusp

Ditto. But for inaccuracy (extrapolating beyond the known).

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Date: 10/06/2022 17:57:49
From: Trevtaowillgetyounowhere
ID: 1894558
Subject: re: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

sibeen said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6etTERFUlUI&ab_channel=Veritasium

A Veritasium video that features some bloke who used to post on the SSSF.

From: Boris
ID: 1891749
Subject: re: Chat June 2022
Trevtaowillgetyounowhere said:

https://youtu.be/6etTERFUlUI
Approx 3.20. that name rings a bell… Old sssf person?

yes. Cusp.

Your about 2500 posts behind. Try to keep up.

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Date: 11/06/2022 10:29:28
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1894826
Subject: re: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

Now watched it and found it very informative.

How come we never hear of this big hole in the ground?

Must be costing a fortune. Who is paying for it?

And why does dark matter have to be particles?

Maybe it only interacts through gravity because it isn’t particles.

It’ll be good to see what they do or don’t find anyway.

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Date: 11/06/2022 10:32:28
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1894829
Subject: re: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

The Rev Dodgson said:

why does dark matter have to be particles?

particles are just a formalism

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Date: 11/06/2022 10:33:38
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1894831
Subject: re: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

why does dark matter have to be particles?

particles are just a formalism

So what are they really?

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Date: 11/06/2022 10:44:59
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1894837
Subject: re: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

why does dark matter have to be particles?

particles are just a formalism

So what are they really?

Just did an exact binge on “particles are just a formalism” which returned exactly one hit:

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/virtual-particles-and-perturbation-theory.266419/

Haven’t read it yet.

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Date: 13/06/2022 21:59:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1896021
Subject: re: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

why does dark matter have to be particles?

particles are just a formalism

So what are they really?

Just did an exact binge on “particles are just a formalism” which returned exactly one hit:

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/virtual-particles-and-perturbation-theory.266419/

Haven’t read it yet.

sorry we mean particles are a metaphor, an analogy, a name we give to or use to describe certain physical concepts that are not relatively directly accessible to our conventional senses, so that their behaviour can only be otherwise described abstractly, but with enough similarity in their formal descriptions to conventionally sensed and understood particles, that it helps us to make sense of and understand them

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Date: 13/06/2022 22:05:30
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1896024
Subject: re: The Absurd Search For Dark Matter

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So what are they really?

Just did an exact binge on “particles are just a formalism” which returned exactly one hit:

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/virtual-particles-and-perturbation-theory.266419/

Haven’t read it yet.

sorry we mean particles are a metaphor, an analogy, a name we give to or use to describe certain physical concepts that are not relatively directly accessible to our conventional senses, so that their behaviour can only be otherwise described abstractly, but with enough similarity in their formal descriptions to conventionally sensed and understood particles, that it helps us to make sense of and understand them

Seems reasonable.

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