Date: 28/06/2022 10:12:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1901759
Subject: 2021 Census Results

…are now coming in.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-28/census-live-results-2022-australia-statistics/101186504

Nice to see that No Religion has increased by nearly 9% in just 5 years.

And now fewer than half the population are Christian.

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Date: 28/06/2022 10:13:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1901760
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

Bubblecar said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-28/census-live-results-2022-australia-statistics/101186504

Nice to see that No Religion has increased by nearly 9% in just 5 years.

we agree but with wariness that it represents merely “No Official Slash Traditional Religion” rather than actual improvement in thought criticality

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Date: 28/06/2022 10:16:58
From: Cymek
ID: 1901764
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-28/census-live-results-2022-australia-statistics/101186504

Nice to see that No Religion has increased by nearly 9% in just 5 years.

we agree but with wariness that it represents merely “No Official Slash Traditional Religion” rather than actual improvement in thought criticality

It should have a box lipservice religious just in case, but don’t go to church or follow any of its laws suggestions

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Date: 28/06/2022 10:18:25
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1901766
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-28/census-live-results-2022-australia-statistics/101186504

Nice to see that No Religion has increased by nearly 9% in just 5 years.

we agree but with wariness that it represents merely “No Official Slash Traditional Religion” rather than actual improvement in thought criticality

It should have a box lipservice religious just in case, but don’t go to church or follow any of its laws suggestions

what if for example someone worships money

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Date: 28/06/2022 10:20:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1901768
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

Cymek said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

And in other news, the television tells me that we are all becoming more diverse and less religious.

So that’s something to be glad about.

Isn’t it?

“While fewer people are reporting their religion as Christian, more are reporting ‘no religion’. Almost 40 per cent (38.9 per cent) of Australia’s population reported having no religion in the 2021 Census, an increase from 30 per cent (30.1 per cent) in 2016 and 22 per cent (22.3 per cent) in 2011.”

https://www.abs.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2021-census-shows-changes-australias-religious-diversity

Interesting to see if that equates to more funding for non religious based counselling and support services.

weren’t immoral Labor doing something evil with that school chaplaincy program thing

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Date: 28/06/2022 10:20:13
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1901769
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

we agree but with wariness that it represents merely “No Official Slash Traditional Religion” rather than actual improvement in thought criticality

It should have a box lipservice religious just in case, but don’t go to church or follow any of its laws suggestions

what if for example someone worships money

I suppose that could be a religion if they think money created the universe and everything in it, and if they are good they will go and live with money for eternity.

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Date: 28/06/2022 10:20:19
From: Cymek
ID: 1901770
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

we agree but with wariness that it represents merely “No Official Slash Traditional Religion” rather than actual improvement in thought criticality

It should have a box lipservice religious just in case, but don’t go to church or follow any of its laws suggestions

what if for example someone worships money

Wouldn’t that come under Liberal party.
I was thinking some religions boast of the numbers but how many actually are active vs just put it down on a form but don’t actually take part.

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Date: 28/06/2022 10:22:24
From: Tamb
ID: 1901772
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

we agree but with wariness that it represents merely “No Official Slash Traditional Religion” rather than actual improvement in thought criticality

It should have a box lipservice religious just in case, but don’t go to church or follow any of its laws suggestions

what if for example someone worships money


They’d vote for Palmer.

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Date: 28/06/2022 10:23:26
From: Tamb
ID: 1901773
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

Cymek said:


SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

It should have a box lipservice religious just in case, but don’t go to church or follow any of its laws suggestions

what if for example someone worships money

Wouldn’t that come under Liberal party.
I was thinking some religions boast of the numbers but how many actually are active vs just put it down on a form but don’t actually take part.


Lapsed Catholics.

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Date: 28/06/2022 10:23:32
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1901774
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

Cymek said:


SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

It should have a box lipservice religious just in case, but don’t go to church or follow any of its laws suggestions

what if for example someone worships money

Wouldn’t that come under Liberal party.
I was thinking some religions boast of the numbers but how many actually are active vs just put it down on a form but don’t actually take part.

I think 40% saying “no religion” is pretty good, considering the rarely stated but still widespread belief that atheism is evil, and everyone is “spiritual” whether they follow a religion or not.

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Date: 28/06/2022 10:23:56
From: Cymek
ID: 1901775
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

SCIENCE said:


Cymek said:

dv said:

“While fewer people are reporting their religion as Christian, more are reporting ‘no religion’. Almost 40 per cent (38.9 per cent) of Australia’s population reported having no religion in the 2021 Census, an increase from 30 per cent (30.1 per cent) in 2016 and 22 per cent (22.3 per cent) in 2011.”

https://www.abs.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2021-census-shows-changes-australias-religious-diversity

Interesting to see if that equates to more funding for non religious based counselling and support services.

weren’t immoral Labor doing something evil with that school chaplaincy program thing

I think it was them in WA that made religious education compulsory in primary school and it was opt out
Not sure though

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Date: 28/06/2022 10:24:59
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1901776
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

SCIENCE said:


Cymek said:

dv said:

“While fewer people are reporting their religion as Christian, more are reporting ‘no religion’. Almost 40 per cent (38.9 per cent) of Australia’s population reported having no religion in the 2021 Census, an increase from 30 per cent (30.1 per cent) in 2016 and 22 per cent (22.3 per cent) in 2011.”

https://www.abs.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2021-census-shows-changes-australias-religious-diversity

Interesting to see if that equates to more funding for non religious based counselling and support services.

weren’t immoral Labor doing something evil with that school chaplaincy program thing

On 7 September 2011, Peter Garrett, Education Minister in the Gillard Government, announced a number of changes in NSCP. New chaplains were to be required to have a “Certificate IV in Youth Work, Pastoral Care or an equivalent qualification”, while previously no formal qualifications were required. The changes also offered schools the option to employ, instead of “a religious support worker” (chaplain), a “secular student well-being officer”, following concerns over the appropriateness of having a religious worker in a public school. Previously schools were only able to hire a secular welfare worker under the programme if they could demonstrate that their efforts to find an ordained chaplain had failed. On 27 September 2013 there were 2,339 chaplains and 512 student welfare workers employed under NSCP.

wiki.

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Date: 28/06/2022 10:27:20
From: diddly-squat
ID: 1901779
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

The Rev Dodgson said:


Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

what if for example someone worships money

Wouldn’t that come under Liberal party.
I was thinking some religions boast of the numbers but how many actually are active vs just put it down on a form but don’t actually take part.

I think 40% saying “no religion” is pretty good, considering the rarely stated but still widespread belief that atheism is evil, and everyone is “spiritual” whether they follow a religion or not.

I’d say there there are still a lot of people that identify as “religious” even though they are non-practicing just because of stupid reasons like “that’s what my parents would want”

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Date: 28/06/2022 10:28:29
From: Cymek
ID: 1901780
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

Tamb said:


Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

what if for example someone worships money

Wouldn’t that come under Liberal party.
I was thinking some religions boast of the numbers but how many actually are active vs just put it down on a form but don’t actually take part.


Lapsed Catholics.

Yes I was thinking them in particular.
It does do funding disservice if you are lazy and don’t change it when you are only that religion from childhood or default as its a family thing.

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Date: 28/06/2022 10:28:52
From: Cymek
ID: 1901782
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

The Rev Dodgson said:


Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

what if for example someone worships money

Wouldn’t that come under Liberal party.
I was thinking some religions boast of the numbers but how many actually are active vs just put it down on a form but don’t actually take part.

I think 40% saying “no religion” is pretty good, considering the rarely stated but still widespread belief that atheism is evil, and everyone is “spiritual” whether they follow a religion or not.

True

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Date: 28/06/2022 12:17:24
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1901841
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

Cymek said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

Wouldn’t that come under Liberal party.
I was thinking some religions boast of the numbers but how many actually are active vs just put it down on a form but don’t actually take part.

I think 40% saying “no religion” is pretty good, considering the rarely stated but still widespread belief that atheism is evil, and everyone is “spiritual” whether they follow a religion or not.

True

on the other hand “no religion” is not to say “not spiritual” and some steps from frank ideological atheism

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Date: 28/06/2022 14:28:35
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1901876
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

Don’t understand how people of Australian ancestry jumped from 927,490 to 7,596,753 in five years.

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Date: 28/06/2022 14:32:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1901877
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

Bubblecar said:


Don’t understand how people of Australian ancestry jumped from 927,490 to 7,596,753 in five years.


Does seem a little odd.

Did they change the definition of “ancestry”?

I take the long term view myself, so I have African ancestry.

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Date: 28/06/2022 14:43:06
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1901878
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Don’t understand how people of Australian ancestry jumped from 927,490 to 7,596,753 in five years.


Does seem a little odd.

Did they change the definition of “ancestry”?

I take the long term view myself, so I have African ancestry.

is that where DNA first hybridised

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Date: 28/06/2022 14:45:52
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1901880
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Don’t understand how people of Australian ancestry jumped from 927,490 to 7,596,753 in five years.


Does seem a little odd.

Did they change the definition of “ancestry”?

I take the long term view myself, so I have African ancestry.

is that where DNA first hybridised

I don’t suppose there was an Africa back then, but I haven’t traced that far back yet.

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Date: 28/06/2022 14:55:49
From: dv
ID: 1901885
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

Bubblecar said:


Don’t understand how people of Australian ancestry jumped from 927,490 to 7,596,753 in five years.


They must have all had quindecuplets or something

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Date: 28/06/2022 14:58:05
From: esselte
ID: 1901890
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

Bubblecar said:


Don’t understand how people of Australian ancestry jumped from 927,490 to 7,596,753 in five years.

The 2016 number is wrong I think.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Australian_census#Ancestry

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Date: 28/06/2022 15:35:01
From: buffy
ID: 1901904
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

esselte said:

Bubblecar said:


Don’t understand how people of Australian ancestry jumped from 927,490 to 7,596,753 in five years.

The 2016 number is wrong I think.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Australian_census#Ancestry

I can’t remember how the question was worded. But I recall having to tick a number of boxes, even though I had to go back several generations to find that ancestry. Perhaps people just read it that if their parents were born here they were of Australian ancestry. Whereas I didn’t read it that way.

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Date: 28/06/2022 16:01:40
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1901916
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

Bubblecar said:


…are now coming in.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-28/census-live-results-2022-australia-statistics/101186504

Nice to see that No Religion has increased by nearly 9% in just 5 years.

And now fewer than half the population are Christian.

so there’s a real market for my Atheists Bible?

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Date: 28/06/2022 16:09:56
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1901925
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

mollwollfumble said:


Bubblecar said:

…are now coming in.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-28/census-live-results-2022-australia-statistics/101186504

Nice to see that No Religion has increased by nearly 9% in just 5 years.

And now fewer than half the population are Christian.

so there’s a real market for my Atheists Bible?

What % of Australians are stupid?

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Date: 28/06/2022 17:04:15
From: Michael V
ID: 1901942
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

mollwollfumble said:


Bubblecar said:

…are now coming in.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-28/census-live-results-2022-australia-statistics/101186504

Nice to see that No Religion has increased by nearly 9% in just 5 years.

And now fewer than half the population are Christian.

so there’s a real market for my Atheists Bible?

Nope. ‘Fraid not.

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Date: 28/06/2022 17:48:46
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1901952
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

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Date: 28/06/2022 17:51:34
From: dv
ID: 1901953
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

I would have assumed there were a lot more caravans than that

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Date: 28/06/2022 17:56:15
From: Michael V
ID: 1901955
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

dv said:


I would have assumed there were a lot more caravans than that

That’s the number of caravans being lived in on census night. The Total number of caravans would likely be far higher.

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Date: 28/06/2022 18:40:58
From: Ian
ID: 1901968
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

<> and everyone is “spiritual” whether they follow a religion or not.

Och aye mon.. pass me that bottle

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Date: 28/06/2022 19:09:40
From: party_pants
ID: 1901972
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

diddly-squat said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

Wouldn’t that come under Liberal party.
I was thinking some religions boast of the numbers but how many actually are active vs just put it down on a form but don’t actually take part.

I think 40% saying “no religion” is pretty good, considering the rarely stated but still widespread belief that atheism is evil, and everyone is “spiritual” whether they follow a religion or not.

I’d say there there are still a lot of people that identify as “religious” even though they are non-practicing just because of stupid reasons like “that’s what my parents would want”

The Catholic and Anglican churches call these people “missing”. Based on their own numbers they only see about 10-15%of those numbers on a regular basis compared to what the Census reports.

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Date: 28/06/2022 19:11:53
From: party_pants
ID: 1901975
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

But I am surprised at the number of “no religions” this time, and the big jump in numbers. Given that there was no campaign this time around to promote the NR cause.

Also surprised that Millennials are such a large cohort.

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Date: 28/06/2022 20:20:31
From: dv
ID: 1902003
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

Seems like Gen X never got our time in the sun, went straight from Boomer dominant to Millennial dominant.

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Date: 28/06/2022 20:21:33
From: party_pants
ID: 1902005
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

dv said:


Seems like Gen X never got our time in the sun, went straight from Boomer dominant to Millennial dominant.

Yeah. I blame the Plasma Bonus.

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Date: 28/06/2022 20:22:32
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1902006
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

dv said:


Seems like Gen X never got our time in the sun, went straight from Boomer dominant to Millennial dominant.

That’s cos you’re a generation of ne’er-do-wells…

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Date: 28/06/2022 20:26:49
From: dv
ID: 1902009
Subject: re: 2021 Census Results

Witty Rejoinder said:


dv said:

Seems like Gen X never got our time in the sun, went straight from Boomer dominant to Millennial dominant.

That’s cos you’re a generation of ne’er-do-wells…

I s’times do well

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