New thread time.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
maybe we all just need something like the Korean conflict to support the building of enduring and sustainable nature reserves, establishing sweeping tracts and corridors of wilderness afforded only the most vigorous military protection available
and then keep tossing missiles into it just for funandgames?
over it surely
It’s over¡
Brother in law and nephew have covid. Just found out yesterday.
With nephew it’s second time, he had it in January, this time he’s in hospital.
mollwollfumble said:
Brother in law and nephew have covid. Just found out yesterday.
With nephew it’s second time, he had it in January, this time he’s in hospital.
Bugger.
A new Covid wave is apparently spreading throughout the world. That will keep this tread going if nothing else. ABC Radio.
PermeateFree said:
A new Covid wave is apparently spreading throughout the world. That will keep this tread going if nothing else. ABC Radio.
the human-induced, or human-amplified super-pandemic
it’s in fact a super-pandemic, just quietly, don’t tell anyone, don’t want be challenging peoples conceptual categories, stereotypes or whatever, provoke an open hostility
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/01/australia-10000-covid19-deaths-and-the-paradox-of-covid-19-normal
reading that^, it’s helping me normalize stupid, takes your mind off the dumb of unlimited wild covid, right up there with nuclear weapons testing and proliferation i’d reckon
might get some of them later too, mushroom clouds, since the expanded tolerance worked so well
If there’s a new wave, it’s not showing up in death stats
dv said:
If there’s a new wave, it’s not showing up in death stats
That’s the entire planet ?
Cymek said:
dv said:
If there’s a new wave, it’s not showing up in death stats
That’s the entire planet ?
Yes
dv said:
Cymek said:
dv said:
If there’s a new wave, it’s not showing up in death stats
That’s the entire planet ?
Yes
Well, it’s all the deaths recorded as having this particular bug involved. There may well be more. In fact I’m sure there are remote places where records are less entire.
dv said:
Cymek said:
dv said:
If there’s a new wave, it’s not showing up in death stats
That’s the entire planet ?
Yes
But the cases numbers look like they might be starting a new uptrend (and didn’t someone post stats for UK, USA and elsewhere showing a clear uptrend?)
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Cymek said:That’s the entire planet ?
Yes
But the cases numbers look like they might be starting a new uptrend (and didn’t someone post stats for UK, USA and elsewhere showing a clear uptrend?)
Heard a later report and the say it is Australia not the world.
dv said:
If there’s a new wave, it’s not showing up in death stats
Australia is still showing up as one of the worst countries for Covid deaths per million population, along with Taiwan, Portugal and new Zealand.
New Covid cases per million in some countries
mollwollfumble said:
dv said:
If there’s a new wave, it’s not showing up in death stats
Australia is still showing up as one of the worst countries for Covid deaths per million population, along with Taiwan, Portugal and new Zealand.
img src=”/uploads/64ca6c6c-591e-42d7-8dcb-b1b642126d78.png” />
New Covid cases per million in some countries
img src=”/uploads/9288851d-5a62-4a88-a74d-e06bb14aa203.jpe” />
>>Australia is still showing up as one of the worst countries for Covid deaths per million <<
Well, not really. We are at 380 deaths per million, number 139 on the table.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
mollwollfumble said:
dv said:
If there’s a new wave, it’s not showing up in death stats
Australia is still showing up as one of the worst countries for Covid deaths per million population, along with Taiwan, Portugal and new Zealand.
New Covid cases per million in some countries
The whole of Europe is not doing well. 7 day smoothed new cases (not normalised by population) has more than doubled in the past month and is increasing more rapidly.
But the whole of Europe is doing well for 7 day smoothed new deaths (not normalised by population), so whatever is causing the new wave in Europe, it’s not greatly affecting the death toll. ie. The latest wave has an even lower mortality rate.
buffy said:
mollwollfumble said:
dv said:
If there’s a new wave, it’s not showing up in death stats
Australia is still showing up as one of the worst countries for Covid deaths per million population, along with Taiwan, Portugal and new Zealand.
img src=”/uploads/64ca6c6c-591e-42d7-8dcb-b1b642126d78.png” />
New Covid cases per million in some countries
img src=”/uploads/9288851d-5a62-4a88-a74d-e06bb14aa203.jpe” />
>>Australia is still showing up as one of the worst countries for Covid deaths per million <<
Well, not really. We are at 380 deaths per million, number 139 on the table.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Worldometers doesn’t do daily deaths (properly) on that chart,
Are you looking at the integral of deaths over three and a half yours?
The good news, for us at least, is that Australia still has one the lowest death rates in the world, ranked 139th.
mollwollfumble said:
buffy said:
mollwollfumble said:Australia is still showing up as one of the worst countries for Covid deaths per million population, along with Taiwan, Portugal and new Zealand.
img src=”/uploads/64ca6c6c-591e-42d7-8dcb-b1b642126d78.png” />
New Covid cases per million in some countries
img src=”/uploads/9288851d-5a62-4a88-a74d-e06bb14aa203.jpe” />
>>Australia is still showing up as one of the worst countries for Covid deaths per million <<
Well, not really. We are at 380 deaths per million, number 139 on the table.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Worldometers doesn’t do daily deaths (properly) on that chart,
Are you looking at the integral of deaths over three and a half yours?
I’m only really interested in the totals. How many deaths this bug and it’s offspring have managed over the whole time. What happens on short little blips isn’t really interesting.
buffy said:
mollwollfumble said:
buffy said:>>Australia is still showing up as one of the worst countries for Covid deaths per million <<
Well, not really. We are at 380 deaths per million, number 139 on the table.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Worldometers doesn’t do daily deaths (properly) on that chart,
Are you looking at the integral of deaths over three and a half yours?
I’m only really interested in the totals. How many deaths this bug and it’s offspring have managed over the whole time. What happens on short little blips isn’t really interesting.
Ancient history.
mollwollfumble said:
buffy said:
mollwollfumble said:Worldometers doesn’t do daily deaths (properly) on that chart,
Are you looking at the integral of deaths over three and a half yours?
I’m only really interested in the totals. How many deaths this bug and it’s offspring have managed over the whole time. What happens on short little blips isn’t really interesting.
Ancient history.
No. Epidemiology.
dv said:
The good news, for us at least, is that Australia still has one the lowest death rates in the world, ranked 139th.
Total Bullshit. See above.
Averaged over the past month, Australia has had the fourth highest covid death rate in the world for countries with more than 1 million population.
Only Portugal, NZ, Taiwan are worse.
Or third highest if you don’t count Taiwan as a country.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-compare-covid-deaths-for-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people/
“How to Compare COVID Deaths for Vaccinated and Unvaccinated People”
(It’s based on American numbers, but shouldn’t be too much different elsewhere. Although I gather there was a lot of J&J one shot vaccination there initially. Might make a difference perhaps)
mollwollfumble said:
dv said:
The good news, for us at least, is that Australia still has one the lowest death rates in the world, ranked 139th.
Total Bullshit. See above.
Averaged over the past month, Australia has had the fourth highest covid death rate in the world for countries with more than 1 million population.
Only Portugal, NZ, Taiwan are worse.
Or third highest if you don’t count Taiwan as a country.https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths
China “you sir are honourable it is our state”
buffy said:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-compare-covid-deaths-for-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people/“How to Compare COVID Deaths for Vaccinated and Unvaccinated People”
(It’s based on American numbers, but shouldn’t be too much different elsewhere. Although I gather there was a lot of J&J one shot vaccination there initially. Might make a difference perhaps)
Here is a bit more information. The Chile graph is interesting.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination
Australia is still showing up as one of the worst countries for Covid deaths
—
I blame Morrison
Ian said:
Australia is still showing up as one of the worst countries for Covid deaths—
I blame Morrison
deaths are the lesser of the problems anyway, good if one thinks in binary maybe, want to dissolve conscience into oblivion that way
most of the trouble’s between the 1 and 0, the maiming, including cumulative maimings
FWIW today we’ll swap places with the Netherlands to become #15 on the Worldometer list. I remember the good old days when we were #126. :(
Spiny Norman said:
FWIW today we’ll swap places with the Netherlands to become #15 on the Worldometer list. I remember the good old days when we were #126. :(
ahahahahahahahahahaha
you know what other acutely mild virus fucks with helper t cells
hahahahahah
SCIENCE said:
you know what other acutely mild virus fucks with helper t cells
hahahahahah
OMG WE WERE WRONG WE JUST MEANT T CELLS
Spiny Norman said:
FWIW today we’ll swap places with the Netherlands to become #15 on the Worldometer list. I remember the good old days when we were #126. :(
And tomorrow it’s very likely that we’ll pass 10,000 deaths.
Spiny Norman said:
FWIW today we’ll swap places with the Netherlands to become #15 on the Worldometer list. I remember the good old days when we were #126. :(
And tomorrow it’s very likely that we’ll pass 10,000 deaths.
Spiny Norman said:
Spiny Norman said:
FWIW today we’ll swap places with the Netherlands to become #15 on the Worldometer list. I remember the good old days when we were #126. :(And tomorrow it’s very likely that we’ll pass 10,000 deaths.
It’s sad.
Spiny Norman said:
Spiny Norman said:
FWIW today we’ll swap places with the Netherlands to become #15 on the Worldometer list. I remember the good old days when we were #126. :(And tomorrow it’s very likely that we’ll pass 10,000 deaths.
In deaths per million we are still 139th. I think this is by and large a successful public policy – delaying the spread of the virus as long as possible to give the population time to get fully vaccinated. The vaccine itself is not a complete success, hence there are some deaths. But the overall policy was the correct one, it’s a pity the vaccines were not more effective.
party_pants said:
I think this is by and large a successful public policy – delaying the spread of the virus as long as possible to give the population time to get fully vaccinated.
I’ll have to firmly disagree with that. Up until nearly this time last year we had 900 deaths, a bit over a year later over 9,000 more.
Queensland is possibly the worst, as up until the start of this year we had a mere (!!) 7 deaths, as of today it’s an additional 1,250 odd.
see put fucking dirty Labor in power for just a month and they’re already trying to have us all running scared in a new police state
SCIENCE said:
see put fucking dirty Labor in power for just a month and they’re already trying to have us all running scared in a new police state
not going to bother reading that, quick glance I had, don’t want poison my last neuron with more stupid, I can’t risk more accelerated neural apoptosis, a final apoptotic event
the way i avoid all colds / flus now is
be aware of what you touch, use alcohol hand rub
in my experience its not what you breath in but what you touch
airborne spread will happen but you can counter this
stay at least 6ft from people you don’t know, if they come close hold your breath (you can do this in public in lfts/ supermarkets). when people get sick they almost instinctively move too close to you (its how the sickness spreads). sick people might look pale, have reddened faces and watery eyes. younger women of child bearing age are almost ALWAYS sick they are continually exposed to kindergarden children who are always sick. older women get sick too as they come into contact with grandchildren.
in short avoid : all women or children. if they aren’t direct family STAY AWAY ! any female in the work environment must be considered as sick anything they hand to you or touch will be infected – you can spray this stuff with alcohol.
don’t touch or go near ANY babies – babies are walking petrie dishes. if you at some function someone might come up to you and ask if you want to hold their baby. under NO circumstances do so ! smile, step back a few steps and say “ i’m sorry – i’m sick at the moment and don’t want to make your baby sick.
i enter and wander around medical situations all the time with or without mask – being mindful of wat you touch will significantly reduce your chances of getting sick
take some olive leaf capsules and any other stuff that might have a claimed anti viral effect
after taking these measures i have remained free of sickness for a number of years
wookiemeister said:
its not what you breath in but what you touchairborne spread will happen but you can counter this
stay at least 6ft from people you don’t know, if they come close hold your breath
self consistency is magic eh
SCIENCE said:
wookiemeister said:its not what you breath in but what you touchairborne spread will happen but you can counter this
stay at least 6ft from people you don’t know, if they come close hold your breath
self consistency is magic eh
SCIENCE said:
wookiemeister said:its not what you breath in but what you touchairborne spread will happen but you can counter this
stay at least 6ft from people you don’t know, if they come close hold your breath
self consistency is magic eh
sure you do you
SCIENCE said:
sure you do you
i used to get sick all the time – now i don’t
I’m wondering about Africa.
The following chart shows cumulative number of cases per million population since the start of Covid.
Africa still shows up as light coloured. Why? Is it:
a) Because of low population and restricted travel, Covid hasn’t reached there yet.
b) Because of a long history with disease, African people are mostly immune.
c) Because of restricted travel and poor medical care, people are not getting to hospital before they die.
d) Because, although people are getting medical care, the testing is not being done and numbers are not being reported.
e) The government doesn’t care to report numbers to WHO.
I note that Tanzania originally reported accurate numbers to WHO and then reported numbers went eerily dead, then suddenly jumped up again. Suggesting e). But Tanzania is the odd one out.
On the map, the darkest colour is for 1 million cases per million population.
ie. Control measures to stop the spread of the disease are totally ineffective in those countries.
Cases were not spreading from country to country in Africa until the Christmas peak
Testing
mollwollfumble said:
I’m wondering about Africa.The following chart shows cumulative number of cases per million population since the start of Covid.
Africa still shows up as light coloured. Why? Is it:
a) Because of low population and restricted travel, Covid hasn’t reached there yet.
b) Because of a long history with disease, African people are mostly immune.
c) Because of restricted travel and poor medical care, people are not getting to hospital before they die.
d) Because, although people are getting medical care, the testing is not being done and numbers are not being reported.
e) The government doesn’t care to report numbers to WHO.I note that Tanzania originally reported accurate numbers to WHO and then reported numbers went eerily dead, then suddenly jumped up again. Suggesting e). But Tanzania is the odd one out.
On the map, the darkest colour is for 1 million cases per million population.
ie. Control measures to stop the spread of the disease are totally ineffective in those countries.
Cases were not spreading from country to country in Africa until the Christmas peak
Testing
The following chart isn’t quite relevant, but is interesting.
Egypt has a much higher Covid mortality rate than other African countries.
Egypt – 2.7% mortality
Mozambique – 0.33% mortality – (standard omicron strain from Xmas)
Latest mortality rates are even lower
New Zealand – 0.09% mortality – (Feb to Mar 2022)
Taiwan – 0.21% mortality – (May to June 2022)
Australia – 0.17% mortality – (June 2022)
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
see put fucking dirty Labor in power for just a month and they’re already trying to have us all running scared in a new police state
not going to bother reading that, quick glance I had, don’t want poison my last neuron with more stupid, I can’t risk more accelerated neural apoptosis, a final apoptotic event
laugh out loud that was yesterday this is today’s softening of the uneducated masses up for another crackdown
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-03/qld-covid-third-wave-masks-health-minister/101204310
Queensland’s Health Minister Yvette D’Ath has not ruled out the re-introduction of mask mandates in light of an increase in COVID-19 cases as the third wave makes its way through the state.
Dr Gerrard told the ABC on Saturday that “we are continually reviewing all aspects of our pandemic response including the potential need for mask mandates in different settings”.
For the first time, researchers have demonstrated that viruses may live and continue to be contagious by attaching themselves to freshwater plastics, which raises questions about the possible effects on human health.
It has been discovered that the diarrhoea- and stomach-unsettling virus rotavirus may persist for up to three days in lake water by adhering to the surfaces of the microscopic plastic debris beads known as microplastics.
more…
A toddler is in intensive care after contracting the first case of diphtheria of the throat in New South Wales in a century. No other cases of diphtheria of the throat have been reported in NSW this century but less-serious cases have been reported on rare occasions. They have mainly involved skin infections.
dv said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Universal flu vaccine developed by US government begins human trials
Shit eh
Why shit?
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Universal flu vaccine developed by US government begins human trials
Shit eh
Why shit?
I mean shit as in wow
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:Shit eh
Why shit?
I mean shit as in wow
Ah, carry on.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:Shit eh
Why shit?
I mean shit as in wow
Well why didn’t you say wow? ;)
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:Shit eh
Why shit?
I mean shit as in wow
A vaccine that can be used anywhere in the universe.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:Why shit?
I mean shit as in wow
Ah, carry on.
Sometimes I don’t understand dv’s shit either.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Why shit?
I mean shit as in wow
A vaccine that can be used anywhere in the universe.
and then it turned out that there was another way of preventing infection by any type of influenza virus that already existed
SCIENCE said:
was thinking this morning, had a little thought, a thinky thought, a derrr
wondered how you and others see the pandemic, in terms of natural disasters
is it a natural disaster?
if it was and stopped being that, stopped being a natural disaster, then at what point did it stop being natural
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
was thinking this morning, had a little thought, a thinky thought, a derrr
wondered how you and others see the pandemic, in terms of natural disasters
is it a natural disaster?
if it was and stopped being that, stopped being a natural disaster, then at what point did it stop being natural
Our modern transportation networks perhaps turned into semi natural as if they didn’t exist it wouldn’t have made it too far out of China
Cymek said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
was thinking this morning, had a little thought, a thinky thought, a derrr
wondered how you and others see the pandemic, in terms of natural disasters
is it a natural disaster?
if it was and stopped being that, stopped being a natural disaster, then at what point did it stop being natural
Our modern transportation networks perhaps turned into semi natural as if they didn’t exist it wouldn’t have made it too far out of China
I guess it’s natural where it is entirely uncontained, needs be wild to be natural
sounds like philosophy or somefing doesn’t‘t
How many lives have been saved by covid-19 vaccines?
A new study estimates that the number is greater than the population of Chile
Jun 24th 2022
Covid-19 vaccines began saving lives in clinical trials. But a new study, based in part on The Economist’s estimate of the pandemic’s true death toll, attempts to model just how many lives have been spared since vaccines became widely available to the public. (See chart.)
The study—published on June 23rd in Lancet Infectious Diseases—found that in the first year of vaccine rollout, jabs saved the lives of 19.1m-20.4m people. Without vaccines, the study estimates, roughly three times as many people would have died from covid in 2021 alone. And 6.8m-7.7m of the prevented deaths were in countries covered by covax, an initiative created to ensure vaccines were sent to poorer countries.
Still, a lack of vaccines in some parts of the world still led to avoidable deaths. Around 100 countries failed to reach the World Health Organisation’s goal of vaccinating 40% of their eligible populations by the end of 2021. The researchers estimate that this cost around 600,000 lives.
To arrive at these estimates the researchers, Oliver J. Watson, Gregory Barnsley and their colleagues at Imperial College London, began with an existing transmission model used to track the spread of covid infections. They then combined this model with The Economist’s estimate of the pandemic’s true death toll to estimate how deadly the pandemic would have been without vaccines.
The study has its limitations. It relies on assumptions about the share of estimated infections that led to death, for instance. China, which has limited reliable data, was excluded from the analysis, as were very small countries. That means the total number of actual averted deaths will be even higher. On the other hand, the researchers did not attempt to model how people or governments might have changed their behaviour to limit infections in the absence of vaccines. For all that, it is the most definitive answer yet to how many people owe their lives to the jabs.
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/06/24/how-many-lives-have-been-saved-by-covid-19-vaccines
Sorry. Some “Economist’ charts don’t C&P properly.
Witty Rejoinder said:
/…cut by me master transition../https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/06/24/how-many-lives-have-been-saved-by-covid-19-vaccines
> On the other hand, the researchers did not attempt to model how people or governments might have changed their behaviour to limit infections in the absence of vaccines
I guess the flipside of that might be that governments and people acted in a way to increase infections in the presence of vaccines
Spiny Norman said:
I like it! Stops the baby from getting via their eyes…
Spocky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Witty Rejoinder said:
How many lives have been saved by covid-19 vaccines?
A new study estimates that the number is greater than the population of Chile
Jun 24th 2022Covid-19 vaccines began saving lives in clinical trials. But a new study, based in part on The Economist’s estimate of the pandemic’s true death toll, attempts to model just how many lives have been spared since vaccines became widely available to the public. (See chart.)
The study—published on June 23rd in Lancet Infectious Diseases—found that in the first year of vaccine rollout, jabs saved the lives of 19.1m-20.4m people. Without vaccines, the study estimates, roughly three times as many people would have died from covid in 2021 alone. And 6.8m-7.7m of the prevented deaths were in countries covered by covax, an initiative created to ensure vaccines were sent to poorer countries.
Still, a lack of vaccines in some parts of the world still led to avoidable deaths. Around 100 countries failed to reach the World Health Organisation’s goal of vaccinating 40% of their eligible populations by the end of 2021. The researchers estimate that this cost around 600,000 lives.
To arrive at these estimates the researchers, Oliver J. Watson, Gregory Barnsley and their colleagues at Imperial College London, began with an existing transmission model used to track the spread of covid infections. They then combined this model with The Economist’s estimate of the pandemic’s true death toll to estimate how deadly the pandemic would have been without vaccines.
The study has its limitations. It relies on assumptions about the share of estimated infections that led to death, for instance. China, which has limited reliable data, was excluded from the analysis, as were very small countries. That means the total number of actual averted deaths will be even higher. On the other hand, the researchers did not attempt to model how people or governments might have changed their behaviour to limit infections in the absence of vaccines. For all that, it is the most definitive answer yet to how many people owe their lives to the jabs.
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/06/24/how-many-lives-have-been-saved-by-covid-19-vaccines
That is most sobering – 20 million people!
Dark Orange said:
Spocky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak Oraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaange!
ms spock said:
Spiny Norman said:
I like it! Stops the baby from getting via their eyes…
New Zealand Genius
SCIENCE said:
welcome disease internationalization
put those words^ in any order you like
A livestock disease that could shut down Australia’s meat and livestock trade has reached Bali, sparking calls for harsher border measures for those returning from the popular tourist destination.
LOL
SCIENCE said:
A livestock disease that could shut down Australia’s meat and livestock trade has reached Bali, sparking calls for harsher border measures for those returning from the popular tourist destination.
LOL
http://english.www.gov.cn/statecouncil/ministries/202207/02/content_WS62bfe428c6d02e533532d16b.html
Inbound travelers will undergo a monkeypox screening along with COVID-19 testing during their quarantine period, the National Health Commission said. The authority stated the requirement in a guideline on monkeypox prevention issued on July 1, calling on all cities to conduct the monkeypox virus check for inbound travelers, especially those who have a traveling history in a country with reported monkeypox infections within 21 days before entering China.
LOL
I wish I’d been a grown-up and taken that mask out of my bag
it’s difficult to wear a mask when you’re at a function with pre-dinner drinks and a two-course dinner
So why didn’t I mask up? I was still wearing a mask in shops and other public places. Why not there? I’m ashamed to say I think it was because no-one else was wearing one. Not a single person, as far as I could see. We’re supposed to be above peer pressure after adolescence but we’re not, of course. I’ve seen the same thing happen in shopping malls: rises and falls in mask-wearing that appear to have as much to do with what everyone else is doing as they have to do with mandating. On public transport, people are copying others, including railway workers, and abandoning masks.
I was in a cooking class not so long ago and I put a mask on. Several classmates gave me a grateful look as they reached for theirs. It was as if they’d been waiting for permission. Which is why it is so much easier when it’s mandated, although it’s sad we have to rely on the state to make us sensible.
LOL
oh by the way
My Wordle scores have gone south. Now, of course, I wish I’d listened to the alarm bells
wait oh fuck we mean
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/03/health/covid-ppe-masks-health-care.html
also known as
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention promoted them during the SARS outbreak of 2003 and the swine flu pandemic of 2009. A few studies since then have suggested that reusable elastomeric respirators should be essential gear for frontline medical workers during a respiratory pandemic, which experts predicted would quickly deplete supplies of N95s, the disposable filtration masks largely made in China.
But when the coronavirus swept the globe and China cut off exports of N95s, elastomeric respirators were nowhere to be found in a vast majority of hospitals and health clinics in the United States. Although impossible to know for sure, some experts believe the dire mask shortage early on contributed to the wave of infections that killed more than 3,600 health workers.
The government’s tentative approach to elastomeric respirators during the pandemic has largely escaped public scrutiny, even as American mask producers, health policy experts and nursing unions have been pressing federal officials to promote them more aggressively. The masks, they note, are an environmentally sustainable and cost-effective alternative to N95s. Worn properly, they offer better protection than N95s, which, as their name suggests, only filter out 95 percent of pathogens. Most elastomerics exceed 99 percent. The masks have another notable attribute: Most are made in the United States.
Now that hospitals have resumed buying cheap, Chinese-made face coverings and the resurgent American mask industry has imploded, experts warn of the perils of the nation’s continued dependency on foreign-made protective equipment. Many of the U.S. companies calling it quits are start-ups whose founders jumped into the P.P.E. business out of a sense of civic duty.
“It’s sad to see all of this manufacturing capacity come online during a crisis, only to be shut down because hospitals and even our own government would rather save a few pennies buying from China,” said Lloyd Armbrust, president of the American Mask Manufacturers Association. Its membership includes just eight companies that are still producing masks, down from 51 a year ago. He said 17 of the companies have shut down.
According to a paper he published in the Journal of the American College of Surgeons, none of the employees went back to wearing N95s. The cost benefit of relying almost entirely on elastomerics became irrefutable: Outfitting the workers was one-tenth as expensive than supplying them with disposable N95s. A separate study found that after one year, the filters were still 99 percent effective. “Elastomerics for us really were a game changer,” Dr. Chalikonda said. “When I think of all the millions of dollars wasted on N95s and then trying to reuse them makes you realize how much elastomerics are a missed opportunity.”
the other one in the other place
we apologise for looking at that concavity and struggling to see it as merely quadratic
SCIENCE said:
the other one in the other place
we apologise for looking at that concavity and struggling to see it as merely quadratic
after the amount invested in making unlimited wild covid normal – turning it into an indefinite super-pandemic – and all the ‘education’ to that end, don’t expect that sort of psychological corruption of a global magnitude to stay just with covid, the permissiveness, the moral relaxation, there is no way it could possibly stay contained to covid, no possibility at all, and no less so when it serves disease liberalization for some higher purpose
there are many people that would tolerate, or sacrifice thousands of casualties a day forever for their big picture religion
transition said:
there are many people that would tolerate, or sacrifice thousands of casualties a day forever for their big picture religion
Laugh Out Loud
we mean it was a nice trick to draw Russia in and get them to expose their soft underbelly but hey
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud
ahahahahahahahaha
The NSW Health Minister says he wants a fourth COVID vaccine dose to be made available to the general population as a new wave threatens to push hospitalisations up again.
SCIENCE said:
we mean it was a nice trick to draw Russia in and get them to expose their soft underbelly but hey
It’s an important lesson
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud
ahahahahahahahaha
The NSW Health Minister says he wants a fourth COVID vaccine dose to be made available to the general population as a new wave threatens to push hospitalisations up again.
reading that, the undeclared human-amplified super-pandemic continues, along with all the deceptions to make it so, make it normal
and here goes another wave to kill and maim lots of people, a continuation, more of the same
there was a time hospitals and medicine were part of an apparatus to help prevent this sort of thing happening, swamped now, swamped by the deceptions
SCIENCE said:
the other one in the other place
we apologise for looking at that concavity and struggling to see it as merely quadratic
oops
so what we mean is that we don’t know how much SCIENCE the rest of yous do but we’ll explain for those who might like
if the first derivative looks the same as the original growth curve, scaled up or down whatever
then that’s exponential growth
actually this has convinced us, we’re taking a new position, we’re accepting now that there is such a thing as immunity dept
(ironically so, perhaps, since these Know-Nothing Useless So-Called Experts are generally trying to debunk the idea of immunity debt)
immunity debt is real, just not what everyone else thinks it is, it’s not a thing at the individual level
obviously immunity debt is a population-level phenomenon, where insufficient susceptible population has been eliminated by disease to date, failing to evolve a resistant population in the process
SCIENCE said:
actually this has convinced us, we’re taking a new position, we’re accepting now that there is such a thing as immunity dept(ironically so, perhaps, since these Know-Nothing Useless So-Called Experts are generally trying to debunk the idea of immunity debt)
immunity debt is real, just not what everyone else thinks it is, it’s not a thing at the individual level
obviously immunity debt is a population-level phenomenon, where insufficient susceptible population has been eliminated by disease to date, failing to evolve a resistant population in the process
For so it had come about, as indeed I and many men might have foreseen had not terror and disaster blinded our minds. These germs of disease have taken toll of humanity since the beginning of things—taken toll of our prehuman ancestors since life began here. But by virtue of this natural selection of our kind we have developed resisting power; to no germs do we succumb without a struggle, and to many—those that cause putrefaction in dead matter, for instance—our living frames are altogether immune. But there are no bacteria in Mars, and directly these invaders arrived, directly they drank and fed, our microscopic allies began to work their overthrow. Already when I watched them they were irrevocably doomed, dying and rotting even as they went to and fro. It was inevitable. By the toll of a billion deaths man has bought his birthright of the earth, and it is his against all comers; it would still be his were the Martians ten times as mighty as they are. For neither do men live nor die in vain.
oh well the first derivative of the messaging is finally reaching 0, maybe it will change direction
SCIENCE said:
oh well the first derivative of the messaging is finally reaching 0, maybe it will change direction
something possibly useful too
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
oh well the first derivative of the messaging is finally reaching 0, maybe it will change direction
something possibly useful too
Are masks still compulsory on public transport in Victoria?
party_pants said:
Are masks still compulsory on public transport in Victoria?
theoretically
https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/more/coronavirus-covid-19/
https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/more/coronavirus-covid-19/wearing-a-mask-on-public-transport/
Wearing a face mask while travelling on public transport helps to keep you and others safe.
When travelling on public transport you must wear a fitted face mask covering your nose and mouth and ensure you wear it for your entire journey. This applies to anyone eight years old and over.
Wearing a face mask is also highly recommended at stations, platforms and stops where a safe distance (1.5m) from others cannot be maintained.
As more people return to public transport, physical distancing will not always be possible and it’s important that everyone wears a face mask.
There are exemptions for children under eight years, individuals with breathing difficulties, and those who have physical conditions that make it difficult to wear a face mask.
Public Transport Authorised Officers will be supporting passengers and ensuring everyone who can is wearing a mask when on public transport.
You can find out more about when and where you need to wear a face mask on the Coronavirus Victoria website.
All passengers are being asked to do their part to stay safe on public transport. That means:
For the most up-to-date health advice visit the Coronavirus Victoria website.
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
oh well the first derivative of the messaging is finally reaching 0, maybe it will change direction
something possibly useful too
Are masks still compulsory on public transport in Victoria?
Yes.
SCIENCE said:
we don’t know how much SCIENCE the rest of yous do but we’ll explain for those who might like
if any of yous are wondering how all those mask studies ended up showing fuckall benefit
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2004.13553.pdf
Monte Carlo simulation indicating (1) significant impact under (near) universal masking when at least 80% of a population is wearing masks, versus minimal impact when only 50% or less of the population is wearing masks, and (2) significant impact when universal masking is adopted early, by Day 50 of a regional outbreak, versus minimal impact when universal masking is adopted late.
Witty Rejoinder said:
How neurons really work is being elucidated
That will help both medicine and the search for better artificial intelligence
Jun 29th 2022A neuron is a thing of beauty. Ever since Santiago Ramón y Cajal stained them with silver nitrate to make them visible under the microscopes of the 1880s (see drawing above), their ramifications have fired the scientific imagination. Ramón y Cajal called them the butterflies of the soul.
Those ramifications—dendrites by the dozen to collect incoming signals, called action potentials, from other neurons, and a single axon to pass on the summed wisdom of those signals in the form of another action potential, turn neurons into parts of far bigger structures known as neural networks. Engineers now use simulacra of these to create what they are pleased to call artificial intelligence, though it is a pale shade of the real thing.
How neurons actually work their magic is only now being disentangled. One conclusion is that each is, in its own right, as powerful an information processor as a fair-sized artificial neural network. That has implications not only for learning how brains work—and how they go wrong—but also for designing artificial versions that more closely resemble the natural sort.
The first widely adopted neuron model, proposed in its existing form in 1957 by Frank Rosenblatt, an American psychologist (who drew, in turn, on Alan Turing, a British computing pioneer), was the perceptron. This is a mathematical function that receives sets of binary digits (zeros and ones) as inputs. It multiplies these by numerical “weights” and then adds the products together. If the result exceeds a preordained value, the perceptron spits out a “one”. If not, it spits out a “zero”.
Layer cake
To make artificial neural networks, perceptrons are encoded as software. They are organised, logically speaking, into interconnected layers and the result is trained to solve problems via feedback and feedforward loops between the layers. These loops alter the values of the weights, and thus the behaviour of the network. The more layers, the “deeper” the network. Deep neural networks now underpin everything from Google Translate to Apple’s Siri.All this imitates how action potentials arriving at the synaptic junctions between axons and dendrites, via which neurons communicate, were thought to trigger signals that then combined with each other to trigger (or not) new action potentials in the receiving cell’s axon. It is thus tempting to see neurons as physical perceptrons, with the difference from the computer versions that their signals are carried by sodium, potassium and calcium ions crossing cell membranes, rather than by a flow of electrons. And for decades that was just how many neuroscientists did see them.
In the early 2000s, though, Panayiota Poirazi of the Institute of Molecular Biology and Biotechnology in Heraklion, Greece, began looking at the matter differently. She imagined neurons themselves as perceptron networks. In 2003 she argued that a simple two-layer network might be enough to model them. Recent work has upped the ante. In 2021 David Beniaguev of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem concluded that, for human cortical neurons at least, five (and sometimes as many as eight) layers are needed, each with up to 256 perceptrons.
This means lots of computing must be going on inside individual neurons. And it is. Dendrites are now known to generate their own, tiny action potentials, called dendritic spikes. These come in several varieties: calcium spikes (long and slow); sodium spikes (short and fast); and nmda spikes (triggered by a chemical called n-methyl-d-aspartate). Together, they let dendrites perform 15 of the 16 basic operations of Boolean algebra, a branch of mathematics that is the basis of digital computing. Those operations compare two input values and spit out a third as a result. Some, such as and, or, not and nor, are self-explanatory. Others, such as nand, xnor and xor, less so.
xor, in particular, is notorious. It gives a non-zero output only when its inputs are dissimilar. In 1969 two eminent computer scientists, Marvin Minsky and Seymour Papert, proved that xor cannot be performed by a single perceptron—one of only two Boolean operation for which that is the case. This result stalled artificial-intelligence research for a decade, the first “ai Winter”, as it is retrospectively known.
That was thought true of dendrites, too. But in 2020 work by Albert Gidon of Humboldt University, in Berlin, in which Dr Poirazi was also involved, found a new class of calcium-based spike which permits xor. That a single dendrite can thus outperform a perceptron suggests an entire layer of complex computation is going on out of sight of conventional models of neurons. That might help explain the remarkable performance of brains and the failure of artificial intelligence to reproduce it.
Axons, too, have been reassessed. The action potentials they carry had once been seen by many as analogous to the all-or-nothingness of a binary digit. Look closely, though, and action potentials vary in both height and width. That matters.
In 2016 a group from the Max Planck Institute for Neuroscience, in Florida (one of the organisation’s few campuses outside its German homeland), showed that neurons in the central nervous system actively adjust the breadth of their action potentials. The following year a team from Dartmouth College in New Hampshire discovered that those in the cortex actively adjust their heights as well.
Even the lengths of the intervals between action potentials matter. In May 2021 Salman Qasim of Columbia University reported that neurons in the hippocampus, a part of the brain involved in memory formation, modulate the timing of their firing to encode information about the body’s navigation through space. And in August of that year Leila Reddy and Matthew Self of the University of Toulouse, in France, reported that neurons also do this to encode the order of events in memories.
All this has clinical implications. In particular, there is growing evidence that atypical dendrite development in childhood and early adulthood is linked to autism, schizophrenia and epilepsy. Deteriorating axonal function, meanwhile, is similarly associated with psychosis in multiple sclerosis, schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. These discoveries inform the development of new medicines. For example, ketamine, which triggers long-lasting structural change in dendrites, is receiving attention as a treatment for depression.
The art of forgetting
The sophistication of the neuron and its constituent parts has also caught the attention of computer scientists. In the early 2010s deep neural networks drove such dramatic improvements in the abilities of artificial intelligence that there was genuine concern people would soon have to wrestle with machines cleverer than they were. Then, suddenly, progress stalled.Deep neural networks have hit three obstacles. First, computer scientists found that once a network has learnt a task, it struggles to transfer those skills to a new one, however similar, without extensive retraining. Second, when such a network is retrained, it tends to forget how to perform the original task—an effect called catastrophic forgetting. Third, to train a large network requires immense volumes of data, access to supercomputers, and the megawatts of electricity needed to run those supercomputers for days (or even weeks) at a time.
The brain struggles with none of this. It effortlessly transfers knowledge between domains, has no trouble integrating old and new skills, and is remarkably efficient—running on watts, not megawatts. The sophistication of neurons may make the difference. In studies published last year and this, a team from Numenta, a Californian research company, designed artificial neurons, with dendrite-like subcomponents, that are immune to catastrophic forgetting. A network of these trained on 100 tasks in sequence retained the ability to perform all with reasonable accuracy. The same network also outperform networks of perceptrons at learning many tasks simultaneously.
Several studies show that sophisticated artificial neurons can approximate complicated functions—xor, for example—with greater accuracy and less energy than perceptrons do. Connected into networks, such devices learn faster and at a lower computing cost than perceptrons. The question of how brains apply knowledge from one domain to others remains a mystery, but it would not be a surprise if the complexity of neurons explains that, too.
The lesson, then, is familiar: nature got there first. Necessity may be the mother of invention, but natural selection is the mother of inventors. In both neuroscience and artificial intelligence the next decade promises to be wild. Over a century after he described them, Ramón y Cajal’s butterflies are taking flight.
SCIENCE said:
actually this has convinced us, we’re taking a new position, we’re accepting now that there is such a thing as immunity dept(ironically so, perhaps, since these Know-Nothing Useless So-Called Experts are generally trying to debunk the idea of immunity debt)
immunity debt is real, just not what everyone else thinks it is, it’s not a thing at the individual level
obviously immunity debt is a population-level phenomenon, where insufficient susceptible population has been eliminated by disease to date, failing to evolve a resistant population in the process
I goes lick my sewage plumbing clean, gets me some immunity credit
mollwollfumble said:
My thoughts exactly.
:)
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
My thoughts exactly.
:)
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
My thoughts exactly.
:)
We need people on either end of the wave to stretch it out.
Once the wave has been stretched out, it should stay flat.
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
My thoughts exactly.
:)
It’s called Keeping your options open.
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
My thoughts exactly.
:)
Bung has the right idea, staying perpendicular to the waves.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:Michael V said:
My thoughts exactly.
:)
We need people on either end of the wave to stretch it out.
Once the wave has been stretched out, it should stay flat.
so like a tide then or just like sea level rise as part of the next extinction event that oh wait it’s all happening at once now
who needs masks anyway
Queensland’s COVID wave ‘going to get worse’ with more than 2,000 health workers off sick
Laugh Out Loud
SCIENCE said:
who needs masks anywayQueensland’s COVID wave ‘going to get worse’ with more than 2,000 health workers off sick
Laugh Out Loud
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
who needs masks anyway
Queensland’s COVID wave ‘going to get worse’ with more than 2,000 health workers off sick
Laugh Out Loud
Why LOL Sc?
well if we don’t laugh we’ll cry, that kind of thing
just at the idiocy of this too, do nothing to reduce transmission, in fact encourage it, and then tell everyone that it was inevitable, necessary, unavoidable, nothing we could do, nobody could have predicted
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
who needs masks anyway
Queensland’s COVID wave ‘going to get worse’ with more than 2,000 health workers off sick
Laugh Out Loud
Why LOL Sc?
well if we don’t laugh we’ll cry, that kind of thing
just at the idiocy of this too, do nothing to reduce transmission, in fact encourage it, and then tell everyone that it was inevitable, necessary, unavoidable, nothing we could do, nobody could have predicted
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
who needs masks anyway
Queensland’s COVID wave ‘going to get worse’ with more than 2,000 health workers off sick
Laugh Out Loud
Why LOL Sc?
well if we don’t laugh we’ll cry, that kind of thing
just at the idiocy of this too, do nothing to reduce transmission, in fact encourage it, and then tell everyone that it was inevitable, necessary, unavoidable, nothing we could do, nobody could have predicted
Mask up.
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:Tamb said:
Why LOL Sc?
well if we don’t laugh we’ll cry, that kind of thing
just at the idiocy of this too, do nothing to reduce transmission, in fact encourage it, and then tell everyone that it was inevitable, necessary, unavoidable, nothing we could do, nobody could have predicted
OK Thanks.
science uses lol to express ridiculousness, absurdity (bordering outrage maybe), is my read, though at times appears may have told-you-so-glee about it, could be read that way, but I try not to, given that there is a dimension of unlimited will covid that is oppressive and repressive, excepting maybe for the covid gregarious, anyway I think the way science expresses it quite acceptable, I don’t read too much into it, especially in the context of the ideological apparatus shaping the language all are encouraged to use to communicate anything about it, the way it is to be understood
and there is an ideological apparatus, sure as there is covid
we’re fucked aren’t we
There are now 24 sites in NSW infested with the varroa mite, which is deadly to bees. There was another detection of the parasite over the weekend, 400 kilometres from the cases near Newcastle.
Michael V said:
Mask up.
we wish
though the mood seems to be shifting a bit
SCIENCE said:
though the mood seems to be shifting a bit
I wear a mask almost everywhere, I still got covid…
furious said:
SCIENCE said:
though the mood seems to be shifting a bit
I wear a mask almost everywhere, I still got covid…
yeah unfortunately it’s pretty hard to lock all the gates
exempli gratia this we found the other day
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2004.13553.pdf
Monte Carlo simulation indicating (1) significant impact under (near) universal masking when at least 80% of a population is wearing masks, versus minimal impact when only 50% or less of the population is wearing masks,
so we’ve gone and got ourselves some elastomeric reusable now
furious said:
SCIENCE said:though the mood seems to be shifting a bit
I wear a mask almost everywhere, I still got covid…
Really? How long?
SCIENCE said:
who needs masks anywayQueensland’s COVID wave ‘going to get worse’ with more than 2,000 health workers off sick
Laugh Out Loud
I’m not.
Michael V said:
furious said:
SCIENCE said:though the mood seems to be shifting a bit
I wear a mask almost everywhere, I still got covid…
Really? How long?
Had a negative RAT Monday and a positive one yesterday. Confirmed via PCR…
furious said:
Michael V said:
furious said:I wear a mask almost everywhere, I still got covid…
Really? How long?
Had a negative RAT Monday and a positive one yesterday. Confirmed via PCR…
Wishing you a speedy recovery.
What are the symptoms like?
furious said:
Michael V said:
furious said:I wear a mask almost everywhere, I still got covid…
Really? How long?
Had a negative RAT Monday and a positive one yesterday. Confirmed via PCR…
Bummer. Are you feeling crook?
Bubblecar said:
furious said:
Michael V said:Really? How long?
Had a negative RAT Monday and a positive one yesterday. Confirmed via PCR…
Wishing you a speedy recovery.
What are the symptoms like?
Not real bad, coughing and blocked head plus general feeling of unwellness. Felt like death this morning though, took some effort to get up and let work know…
furious said:
Bubblecar said:
furious said:Had a negative RAT Monday and a positive one yesterday. Confirmed via PCR…
Wishing you a speedy recovery.
What are the symptoms like?
Not real bad, coughing and blocked head plus general feeling of unwellness. Felt like death this morning though, took some effort to get up and let work know…
Sounds nasty enough but you should pull through :)
Bubblecar said:
furious said:
Bubblecar said:Wishing you a speedy recovery.
What are the symptoms like?
Not real bad, coughing and blocked head plus general feeling of unwellness. Felt like death this morning though, took some effort to get up and let work know…
Sounds nasty enough but you should pull through :)
Yeah, chances are…
furious said:
Bubblecar said:
furious said:Had a negative RAT Monday and a positive one yesterday. Confirmed via PCR…
Wishing you a speedy recovery.
What are the symptoms like?
Not real bad, coughing and blocked head plus general feeling of unwellness. Felt like death this morning though, took some effort to get up and let work know…
I hope you have short covid.
SCIENCE said:
who needs masks anyway
Queensland’s COVID wave ‘going to get worse’ with more than 2,000 health workers off sick
Laugh Out Loud
quick, embrace forever COVID-19 for The Economy Must Grow forever¡
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-07/qld-covid-waves-pressure-hospitals-john-gerrard/101213720
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:
Why LOL Sc?
well if we don’t laugh we’ll cry, that kind of thing
just at the idiocy of this too, do nothing to reduce transmission, in fact encourage it, and then tell everyone that it was inevitable, necessary, unavoidable, nothing we could do, nobody could have predicted
Mask up.
“The pandemic isn’t over, so my view is that will inevitably follow what has occurred in other parts of the world and roll out a further booster shot,” Mr Albanese told reporters on Wednesday.
not not in article, but only once, and stated by a Corruption premier of all people: “mask”
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
well if we don’t laugh we’ll cry, that kind of thing
just at the idiocy of this too, do nothing to reduce transmission, in fact encourage it, and then tell everyone that it was inevitable, necessary, unavoidable, nothing we could do, nobody could have predicted
Mask up.
COVID-19 boosters ‘a matter of urgency’ says Prime Minister as infections rise to highest level since February
“The pandemic isn’t over, so my view is that will inevitably follow what has occurred in other parts of the world and roll out a further booster shot,” Mr Albanese told reporters on Wednesday.
not not in article, but only once, and stated by a Corruption premier of all people: “mask”
You know, I’ve heard that wearing a mask may even protect against the spread of flu. ;)
communists
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-covid-19-could-hit-you-harder-with-each-reinfection
But even with cleverer viral mutations, the jabs are still pretty effective. You can’t get sicker and sicker with reinfection… if you never get infected in the first place.
d’n‘o’ about pretty effective unless they mean for decoration and aesthetics but hey
Buy Buy Buy ¡
Copper plunges to its lowest mark in 17-months as the economic bellwether slumps further into a bear market
in other news
Monte Carlo simulation indicating (1) significant impact under (near) universal masking when at least 99% of a circuit is made of conducting material such as copper, versus minimal impact when only 50% or less of the circuit is conducting,
fixed
remember when SARS-CoV-2 was young and we all talked about spurious fattening of the curve when test saturation was achieved
interesting
SCIENCE said:
You really like posting sine waves Science.
lolwtf
‘Major rise’ in COVID cases not expected despite indicators going up, Legault says
Quebec announced on Tuesday that 1,441 patients were hospitalized with COVID-19, the highest tally since the end of May. The figure represented an increase of 147 patients since hospitalization data was last reported on Saturday. Of the hospitalized patients, 39 were in intensive care — an increase of three and nearly twice as many as there were in mid-June.
Since dropping to 517 in the last week of May, the seven-day rolling average of new cases identified through PCR testing has steadily climbed to its current level of 1,306.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:
You really like posting sine waves Science.
another so-called expert who knows nothing
SCIENCE said:
another so-called expert who knows nothing
That guy there, he really looks like he does not want to be there.
I want to be somewhere else right now, not here, just somewhere else.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
the other one in the other place
we apologise for looking at that concavity and struggling to see it as merely quadratic
oops
so what we mean is that we don’t know how much SCIENCE the rest of yous do but we’ll explain for those who might like
if the first derivative looks the same as the original growth curve, scaled up or down whatever
then that’s exponential growth
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
the other one in the other place
we apologise for looking at that concavity and struggling to see it as merely quadratic
oops
so what we mean is that we don’t know how much SCIENCE the rest of yous do but we’ll explain for those who might like
if the first derivative looks the same as the original growth curve, scaled up or down whatever
then that’s exponential growth
Yes, waiting is the much better approach, we can see how many die then.
Tau.Neutrino said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
oops
so what we mean is that we don’t know how much SCIENCE the rest of yous do but we’ll explain for those who might like
if the first derivative looks the same as the original growth curve, scaled up or down whatever
then that’s exponential growth
Yes, waiting is the much better approach, we can see how many die then.
the age of age destroy-the-legitimate-nation-state-apparatus and upscale-it-to-a-worldist-apparatus
media’s keen, doesn’t much like borders
and so bad it is that in the future you might see it wrote as follows
more tactical nukes used today!!
with exclamation marks, that sort of dumb
surprise
more so called experts who know nothing
SCIENCE said:
surprise
more so called experts who know nothing
it’s worse than all that, not only is there immune escape, there is immune evasion i’ll call, related in some sense, lots of people can have persistent infection, low level maybe depending how you characterize that, in short though it can be cunt to get rid of
lots a viral infections in the body never clear, they stay persistent in the body at low levels, kept at low levels by the immune system
covid i’d speculate that a lot of people don’t clear it, it takes a long time, you might really need months and months off work, no stress, ideal diet, ideal everything to clear it, perhaps antivirals too, but I suspect there’s rebound in a lot cases they are used
and the variants are swinging around so quick, because of the host size, it’s massive, obscene
everyone’s in a super-pandemic, an endless cycle, with no certainty things are going to improve
SCIENCE said:
It was how he always wanted to go
transition said:
things are going to improve
transition said:
things are going to improve
for the virus
Vaccination is the only known method to prevent the development of tumors when chickens are infected with the virus. However, administration of the vaccine does not prevent an infected bird from shedding the virus, though it does reduce the amount of virus shed in the dander, hence reducing horizontal spread of the disease. Marek’s disease does not spread vertically.
Before the development of the vaccine for Marek’s disease, Marek’s disease caused substantial revenue loss in the poultry industries of the United States and the United Kingdom. The vaccine can be administered to one-day-old chicks through subcutaneous inoculation or by in ovo vaccination when the eggs are transferred from the incubator to the hatcher. In ovo vaccination is the preferred method, as it does not require handling of the chicks and can be done rapidly by automated methods. Immunity develops within two weeks.
Because vaccination does not prevent infection with the virus, Marek’s is still transmissible from vaccinated flocks to other birds, including the wild bird population. The first Marek’s disease vaccine was introduced in 1970. The disease would cause mild paralysis, with the only identifiable lesions being in neural tissue. Mortality of chickens infected with Marek’s disease was quite low. Current strains of Marek virus, decades after the first vaccine was introduced, cause lymphoma formation throughout the chicken’s body and mortality rates have reached 100% in unvaccinated chickens. The Marek’s disease vaccine is a “leaky vaccine”, which means that only the symptoms of the disease are prevented. Infection of the host and the transmission of the virus are not inhibited by the vaccine. This contrasts with most other vaccines, where infection of the host is prevented.
Under normal conditions, highly virulent strains of the virus are not selected for by evolution. This is because such a severe strain would kill the host before the virus would have an opportunity to transmit to other potential hosts and replicate. Thus, less virulent strains are selected. These strains are virulent enough to induce symptoms but not enough to kill the host, allowing further transmission. However, the leaky vaccine changes this evolutionary pressure and permits the evolution of highly virulent strains. The vaccine’s inability to prevent infection and transmission allows the spread of highly virulent strains among vaccinated chickens. The fitness of the more virulent strains is increased by the vaccine.
The evolution of Marek’s disease due to vaccination has had a profound effect on the poultry industry. All chickens across the globe are now vaccinated against Marek’s disease (birds hatched in private flocks for laying or exhibition are rarely vaccinated). Highly virulent strains have been selected to the point that any chicken that is unvaccinated will die if infected. Other leaky vaccines are commonly used in agriculture. One vaccine in particular is the vaccine for avian influenza. Leaky vaccine use for avian influenza can select for virulent strains.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Mask up.
COVID-19 boosters ‘a matter of urgency’ says Prime Minister as infections rise to highest level since February
“The pandemic isn’t over, so my view is that will inevitably follow what has occurred in other parts of the world and roll out a further booster shot,” Mr Albanese told reporters on Wednesday.
not not in article, but only once, and stated by a Corruption premier of all people: “mask”
You know, I’ve heard that wearing a mask may even protect against the spread of flu. ;)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-07/covid-fourth-dose-booster-vaccine-to-be-recommended/101212636
realisation that convincing authorities to tie changes in protections to inappropriate triggers was one of the sneakiest and most brilliant strategies of the procovid advocates
ensure maximum simultaneous confounders and you get to play bullshit like this
New clues to how COVID may trigger immune damage in the brain
A small autopsy study examining brain tissue from patients who died from COVID-19 is offering new clues to how this novel coronavirus can lead to brain damage. The findings suggest an abnormal immune response could be damaging vascular cells in the blood-brain barrier, leading to many neurological symptoms associated with COVID-19.
more…
Tau.Neutrino said:
New clues to how COVID may trigger immune damage in the brainA small autopsy study examining brain tissue from patients who died from COVID-19 is offering new clues to how this novel coronavirus can lead to brain damage. The findings suggest an abnormal immune response could be damaging vascular cells in the blood-brain barrier, leading to many neurological symptoms associated with COVID-19.
more…
been known for quite a long time now, things related the endothelial plague as i’ve been calling it, how covid loves endothelial cells, messes with things there, gives the immune system a difficult task, more for some than others
there are other viruses that mess with endothelial cells also
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
COVID-19 boosters ‘a matter of urgency’ says Prime Minister as infections rise to highest level since February
“The pandemic isn’t over, so my view is that will inevitably follow what has occurred in other parts of the world and roll out a further booster shot,” Mr Albanese told reporters on Wednesday.
not not in article, but only once, and stated by a Corruption premier of all people: “mask”
You know, I’ve heard that wearing a mask may even protect against the spread of flu. ;)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-07/covid-fourth-dose-booster-vaccine-to-be-recommended/101212636
>“The pandemic isn’t over, so my view is that will inevitably follow what has occurred in other parts of the world and roll out a further booster shot,”
worldist dumb shit, making all the right noises
transition said:
worldist dumb shit, making all the right noises
no, we thought he was just being ironic
ah
laugh
cut cutting
SCIENCE said:
cut cutting
some worldist Borg-like inevitability in the background, has me conjuring a Captain Picard minus a conscience
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
cut cutting
some worldist Borg-like inevitability in the background, has me conjuring a Captain Picard minus a conscience
fk good luck getting treatment or even having an ambulance get to you if you suffered an out of hospital cardiac arrest or some kind of major penetrating trauma or haemorrhage requiring blood transfusion yeah
LOL
probably just a mild head cold
something else
SCIENCE said:
so apart from one of them actually trying to keep their population alive
what’s the difference between these communist countries
rest of world: holy shit recent ASIAN leader got assassinated brutally in country with fucking strict gun laws
Fox News: OMG WTF there are still people who wear masks jesus christ
side note, that looks like a higher grade mask with dual head straps rather than simple ear loops, we approve
lol fk off, Omicron lies
obviously it was the lockdowns and bullshit restrictions
wait
of course not, it’s your duty
Three days after Heather and her daughters landed in the United States, all three tested positive for COVID-19, but they have no regrets about their move.
I have almost completely, but not quite, lost my sense of taste…
furious said:
I have almost completely, but not quite, lost my sense of taste…
goodo, you probably laugh at some of my jokes now.
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:
I have almost completely, but not quite, lost my sense of taste…
goodo, you probably laugh at some of my jokes now.
I don’t wish to suggest your jokes are predictable, but there are as-of-yet undiscovered tribes in the heart of the Peruvian jungle who knew you were going to say that.
furious said:
I have almost completely, but not quite, lost my sense of taste…
…and, indeed, it goes so heavily
with my disposition that this goodly frame, the
Earth, seems to me a sterile promontory;
Seriously, this is to do with COVID exposure, right? Here’s hoping that it’s a passing thing.
SCIENCE said:
lol fk off, Omicron lies
obviously it was the lockdowns and bullshit restrictions
wait
the way many countries and the internationalist influence have dealt with the pandemic has resulted in massive distortions, ill-adjustment, the pandemic was turned into a super-pandemic and the medicine was to turn it into an endemic disease, it has been a disaster, all of that on top of massive unsustainable debt, i’d say the mass stupid will push the world order over the cliff
captain_spalding said:
furious said:
I have almost completely, but not quite, lost my sense of taste…
…and, indeed, it goes so heavily
with my disposition that this goodly frame, the
Earth, seems to me a sterile promontory;Seriously, this is to do with COVID exposure, right? Here’s hoping that it’s a passing thing.
Yes. Four days in…
transition said:
SCIENCE said:lol fk off, Omicron lies
obviously it was the lockdowns and bullshit restrictions
wait
the way many countries and the internationalist influence have dealt with the pandemic has resulted in massive distortions, ill-adjustment, the pandemic was turned into a super-pandemic and the medicine was to turn it into an endemic disease, it has been a disaster, all of that on top of massive unsustainable debt, i’d say the mass stupid will push the world order over the cliff
we meant this bit,
Early signs the fourth Omicron wave and rate rises are choking the economy
why blame the virus, it’s all a hoax anyway
furious said:
I have almost completely, but not quite, lost my sense of taste…
Do you find this man attractive?
fsm said:
furious said:
I have almost completely, but not quite, lost my sense of taste…
Do you find this man attractive?
Yeah, nah…
it’s a bit wtf tbh we mean they say
Inflation isn’t budging … yet
Australia has a problem with inflation right now, like most other developed countries.
like it’s a bad thing, then they say
Shoppers power on, but for how long?
Amazingly, the evidence to date shows shoppers continue to head out and spend up at the department stores.
like it’s a bad thing
but we all know that supply greater than demand increases prices so uh
fsm said:
furious said:
I have almost completely, but not quite, lost my sense of taste…
Do you find this man attractive?
Jebus, that decor would embarrass Liberace.
furious said:
fsm said:
furious said:
I have almost completely, but not quite, lost my sense of taste…
Do you find this man attractive?
Yeah, nah…
One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear¡
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:lol fk off, Omicron lies
obviously it was the lockdowns and bullshit restrictions
wait
the way many countries and the internationalist influence have dealt with the pandemic has resulted in massive distortions, ill-adjustment, the pandemic was turned into a super-pandemic and the medicine was to turn it into an endemic disease, it has been a disaster, all of that on top of massive unsustainable debt, i’d say the mass stupid will push the world order over the cliff
we meant this bit,
Early signs the fourth Omicron wave and rate rises are choking the economy
why blame the virus, it’s all a hoax anyway
the wheels are falling off the bullshit, the answer is more bullshit apparently
furious said:
I have almost completely, but not quite, lost my sense of taste…
What are you wearing today?
Peak Warming Man said:
furious said:
I have almost completely, but not quite, lost my sense of taste…
What are you wearing today?
That’s a rather personal question…
furious said:
Peak Warming Man said:
furious said:
I have almost completely, but not quite, lost my sense of taste…
What are you wearing today?
That’s a rather personal question…
we’re all friends here.
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:
Peak Warming Man said:
What are you wearing today?
That’s a rather personal question…
we’re all friends here.
no
furious said:
I have almost completely, but not quite, lost my sense of taste…
Bugger.
:(
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:
I have almost completely, but not quite, lost my sense of taste…
goodo, you probably laugh at some of my jokes now.
LOL
transition said:
SCIENCE said:lol fk off, Omicron lies
obviously it was the lockdowns and bullshit restrictions
wait
the way many countries and the internationalist influence have dealt with the pandemic has resulted in massive distortions, ill-adjustment, the pandemic was turned into a super-pandemic and the medicine was to turn it into an endemic disease, it has been a disaster, all of that on top of massive unsustainable debt, i’d say the mass stupid will push the world order over the cliff
A global lockdown to eradicate the virus would have entailed even more debt by an order of magnitude I’d estimate.
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:lol fk off, Omicron lies
obviously it was the lockdowns and bullshit restrictions
wait
the way many countries and the internationalist influence have dealt with the pandemic has resulted in massive distortions, ill-adjustment, the pandemic was turned into a super-pandemic and the medicine was to turn it into an endemic disease, it has been a disaster, all of that on top of massive unsustainable debt, i’d say the mass stupid will push the world order over the cliff
A global lockdown to eradicate the virus would have entailed even more debt by an order of magnitude I’d estimate.
Actually make that 2-3 times.
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:
That’s a rather personal question…
we’re all friends here.
no
I think someone needs a hug.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:the way many countries and the internationalist influence have dealt with the pandemic has resulted in massive distortions, ill-adjustment, the pandemic was turned into a super-pandemic and the medicine was to turn it into an endemic disease, it has been a disaster, all of that on top of massive unsustainable debt, i’d say the mass stupid will push the world order over the cliff
A global lockdown to eradicate the virus would have entailed even more debt by an order of magnitude I’d estimate.
Actually make that 2-3 times.
you’re distorting the proposition, you’ve said eradicate without qualifying what that is exactly, haven’t contrasted a more likely reality of dynamic zero with unlimited wild covid, and the latter results in disequilibrium, then engaged in some magic math of a global system scale, which i’d call hoodoo
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
A global lockdown to eradicate the virus would have entailed even more debt by an order of magnitude I’d estimate.
Actually make that 2-3 times.
you’re distorting the proposition, you’ve said eradicate without qualifying what that is exactly, haven’t contrasted a more likely reality of dynamic zero with unlimited wild covid, and the latter results in disequilibrium, then engaged in some magic math of a global system scale, which i’d call hoodoo
no no no it works you rack up debt by sitting around not spending but whenever you kill someone you liquidate them sorry their assets we mean it’s good for everyone
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Witty Rejoinder said:A global lockdown to eradicate the virus would have entailed even more debt by an order of magnitude I’d estimate.
Actually make that 2-3 times.
you’re distorting the proposition, you’ve said eradicate without qualifying what that is exactly, haven’t contrasted a more likely reality of dynamic zero with unlimited wild covid, and the latter results in disequilibrium, then engaged in some magic math of a global system scale, which i’d call hoodoo
I don’t know what that means…
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Actually make that 2-3 times.
you’re distorting the proposition, you’ve said eradicate without qualifying what that is exactly, haven’t contrasted a more likely reality of dynamic zero with unlimited wild covid, and the latter results in disequilibrium, then engaged in some magic math of a global system scale, which i’d call hoodoo
I don’t know what that means…
Yes, it is ironic that he accuses you of distorting the proposition when he does nothing but distorting everything he says…
does ferrony make false
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:
we’re all friends here.
no
I think someone needs a hug.
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:you’re distorting the proposition, you’ve said eradicate without qualifying what that is exactly, haven’t contrasted a more likely reality of dynamic zero with unlimited wild covid, and the latter results in disequilibrium, then engaged in some magic math of a global system scale, which i’d call hoodoo
I don’t know what that means…
Yes, it is ironic that he accuses you of distorting the proposition when he does nothing but distorting everything he says…
yeah yeah, should I ignore the likelihood that what you just said couldn’t possibly be true, specifically where you generalized everything
Beware Those Universal Quantifiers ¡
SCIENCE said:
Beware Those Universal Quantifiers ¡
What?
All of them?
SCIENCE said:
Beware Those Universal Quantifiers ¡
Well if an argument revolves around semantics then it’s already on shaky ground…
Onty you have to think about what global eradication would entail. Ending transmission in smaller jurisdictions is useless if it’s still running wild in others. It’s pretty much all or nothing and it would be costly with developed nations footing the bill.
In essence any talk of ‘unsustainable debt’ being an argument against the existing covid response do not hold water.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Onty you have to think about what global eradication would entail. Ending transmission in smaller jurisdictions is useless if it’s still running wild in others. It’s pretty much all or nothing and it would be costly with developed nations footing the bill.In essence any talk of ‘unsustainable debt’ being an argument against the existing covid response do not hold water.
take one thing you say at a time, the first paragraph, relate it to reality, real things of the real world
starting with are there any countries that have an effective dynamic zero approach?
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Onty you have to think about what global eradication would entail. Ending transmission in smaller jurisdictions is useless if it’s still running wild in others. It’s pretty much all or nothing and it would be costly with developed nations footing the bill.In essence any talk of ‘unsustainable debt’ being an argument against the existing covid response do not hold water.
take one thing you say at a time, the first paragraph, relate it to reality, real things of the real world
starting with are there any countries that have an effective dynamic zero approach?
My main argument is about ‘unsustainable’ debt. I don’t know enough about China’s situation re economic costs to comment.
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Onty you have to think about what global eradication would entail. Ending transmission in smaller jurisdictions is useless if it’s still running wild in others. It’s pretty much all or nothing and it would be costly with developed nations footing the bill.In essence any talk of ‘unsustainable debt’ being an argument against the existing covid response do not hold water.
take one thing you say at a time, the first paragraph, relate it to reality, real things of the real world
starting with are there any countries that have an effective dynamic zero approach?
My main argument is about ‘unsustainable’ debt. I don’t know enough about China’s situation re economic costs to comment.
of course you could have wrote that last proposition other ways, situation might imply uncertainty (negatively), and economic costs doesn’t exactly point to possible economic (or health or social) benefits, even the existence of the possibility, sort of vaporizes it really, obliviates
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:take one thing you say at a time, the first paragraph, relate it to reality, real things of the real world
starting with are there any countries that have an effective dynamic zero approach?
My main argument is about ‘unsustainable’ debt. I don’t know enough about China’s situation re economic costs to comment.
of course you could have wrote that last proposition other ways, situation might imply uncertainty (negatively), and economic costs doesn’t exactly point to possible economic (or health or social) benefits, even the existence of the possibility, sort of vaporizes it really, obliviates
Benefits of dynamic zero over elimination? There are none.
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:My main argument is about ‘unsustainable’ debt. I don’t know enough about China’s situation re economic costs to comment.
of course you could have wrote that last proposition other ways, situation might imply uncertainty (negatively), and economic costs doesn’t exactly point to possible economic (or health or social) benefits, even the existence of the possibility, sort of vaporizes it really, obliviates
Benefits of dynamic zero over elimination? There are none.
I believe you’re committed to unlimited wild covid, I could be wrong, you might clear that up
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:of course you could have wrote that last proposition other ways, situation might imply uncertainty (negatively), and economic costs doesn’t exactly point to possible economic (or health or social) benefits, even the existence of the possibility, sort of vaporizes it really, obliviates
Benefits of dynamic zero over elimination? There are none.
I believe you’re committed to unlimited wild covid, I could be wrong, you might clear that up
That horse has bolted. My entry into this discussion was to refute your assertion that the costs of covid in government debt would be lower under an elimination strategy.
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Benefits of dynamic zero over elimination? There are none.
I believe you’re committed to unlimited wild covid, I could be wrong, you might clear that up
That horse has bolted. My entry into this discussion was to refute your assertion that the costs of covid in government debt would be lower under an elimination strategy.
the horse is not you, you could answer yes or no if it’s substantially true or otherwise, indicate so
it was fairly straightforward
I believe you’re committed to unlimited wild covid, I could be wrong, you might clear that up
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:I believe you’re committed to unlimited wild covid, I could be wrong, you might clear that up
That horse has bolted. My entry into this discussion was to refute your assertion that the costs of covid in government debt would be lower under an elimination strategy.
the horse is not you, you could answer yes or no if it’s substantially true or otherwise, indicate so
it was fairly straightforward
I believe you’re committed to unlimited wild covid, I could be wrong, you might clear that up
It;‘s a bit rich you asking someone to be clear. No I am not commited to unlimited wild covid.
nearly infinite COVID-19 should be enough we all love a bit of that
dv said:
dv said:
Sibeen I had a read of the modelling documentation for Powering Australia.
It’s called
THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE ALP’S POWERING AUSTRALIA PLAN
Summary of modelling results, December 2021
Reputex Energy.There really isn’t any detailed evidence backing their expected decline in battery pricing. They just kind of lump it in with other assumptions.
I can believe that renewable source pricing will continue to decline, and I can even believe that there can be further economies of scale in electrolysis, but it would be nice to have a bit more “granularity” regarding different kinds of batteries etc.
I also didn’t find any estimate in the expected total amount of storage required to deal with intermittency under an 82% renewables regime. Just some ballpark range would have been fine.Also I didn’t like how they piled storage on top of sources in this diagram.
Indeed I would have liked a lot more specificity all around.
speaking of unevidenced claims that costs of indefinite failure are small compared to those of one time success
sibeen said:
dv said:
sibeen said:
It may not mean much but I just asked a mate who is an engineer I once mentored (poor sap) and now works as an analyst for investment in large solar and wind farms. He called RepuTex retards and flogs.
I’m still not sure what he thinks about their report.
I mean I suppose you get what you pay for but I hope no one got paid much for this… You’d really need about 500 page document with at least 50 pages specifically on expected pricing, availability and bottlenecks in various storage methodologies and another 50 pages on modelling of storage requirements under various scenarios.
If this really is the “most extensive independent modelling ever carried out for an Opposition” then Oppositions have been fucking the dog for decades. Either that or there is much more detail to this modelling than has been published and boy howdy I’d love to see it.
Just got off phone with friend.
He states that within the industry and investment people and banks the report is considered to be a joke. The planning curves he works off has us achieving 40% renewable electrical energy by 2030 – with an absolute best case up at around 46%. He said that on the battery front there is absolutely no chance of getting close to where the report states we need to be. Tesla has apparently stopped taking orders as the battetry supply just isn’t there and they are telling customers that they won’t be taking order for at least another 18 months.
fuck if only the bullshit pandemic modelling that was used to murder 30000000 people underwent this level of scrutiny we mean damn
Most Marburg deaths occur between eight and nine days after the onset of symptoms, according to the WHO, usually after the patient suffers “severe blood loss” and goes into shock.
SCIENCE said:
Most Marburg deaths occur between eight and nine days after the onset of symptoms, according to the WHO, usually after the patient suffers “severe blood loss” and goes into shock.
It is a dreadful disease, for sure.
woooohahahahahahahah yeeeah
the singularity is coming
SCIENCE said:
woooohahahahahahahah yeeeah
the singularity is coming
more data needed
Schrödinger Pandemic
also: nice mask
SCIENCE said:
woooohahahahahahahah yeeeah
the singularity is coming
right up there with nuclear weapons testing and proliferation, possibly worse
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:That horse has bolted. My entry into this discussion was to refute your assertion that the costs of covid in government debt would be lower under an elimination strategy.
the horse is not you, you could answer yes or no if it’s substantially true or otherwise, indicate so
it was fairly straightforward
I believe you’re committed to unlimited wild covid, I could be wrong, you might clear that up
It;‘s a bit rich you asking someone to be clear. No I am not commited to unlimited wild covid.
so goes the outsourcing of commitment to the horse you mentioned
SCIENCE said:
Schrödinger Pandemic
also: nice mask
meant to all get immunity, vax + exposure, how’s that going, has me pondering what really got immunized, additionally, get ya vax and have some stupid with that, the daddy of derrs, the grand derr
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Schrödinger Pandemic
also: nice mask
meant to all get immunity, vax + exposure, how’s that going, has me pondering what really got immunized, additionally, get ya vax and have some stupid with that, the daddy of derrs, the grand derr
you’re right, as we mentioned way back, they all wanted business-versus-pandemic immunity, and they want taxes to pay for it
LOL FUCK
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
the other one in the other place
we apologise for looking at that concavity and struggling to see it as merely quadratic
oops
so what we mean is that we don’t know how much SCIENCE the rest of yous do but we’ll explain for those who might like
if the first derivative looks the same as the original growth curve, scaled up or down whatever
then that’s exponential growth
LOL FUCK
More Australians will be eligible for COVID-19 antiviral drugs from Monday in an attempt to reduce the number of people in hospital.
Known as Lagevrio and Paxlovid, the drugs cost $6.80 for a concession card holder and around $40 for others
meanwhile, 100% of Australians are eligible to wear masks whenever they want, and a week’s course are free for a concession and around $5 for others
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-10/covid19-antiviral-treatment-available-to-to-more-australians-/101224702More Australians will be eligible for COVID-19 antiviral drugs from Monday in an attempt to reduce the number of people in hospital.
Known as Lagevrio and Paxlovid, the drugs cost $6.80 for a concession card holder and around $40 for others
meanwhile, 100% of Australians are eligible to wear masks whenever they want, and a week’s course are free for a concession and around $5 for others
A weeks course?
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Australians are eligible to wear masks whenever they want, and a week’s course are free for a concession and around $5 for othersA weeks course?
depends how much you reuse them
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-10/covid19-antiviral-treatment-available-to-to-more-australians-/101224702More Australians will be eligible for COVID-19 antiviral drugs from Monday in an attempt to reduce the number of people in hospital.
Known as Lagevrio and Paxlovid, the drugs cost $6.80 for a concession card holder and around $40 for others
meanwhile, 100% of Australians are eligible to wear masks whenever they want, and a week’s course are free for a concession and around $5 for others
might need the antivirals, plenty returns in it for the modern witchdoctors, creates employment, especially if everyone is invested in the free-range plague in the name of liberty
but more of the plague, to it, clearly many people can be crook for months, many many months, and on a treadmill of reinfections from same variant or new variants, it’s a menace to clear for many people
one of my readies, SCIENCE might like have a look, at the PDF
https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202005.0070/v1
Yeah but you know at least there are medications andor healthcare interventions out there that can stop COVID-19 andor pregnancy before it causes significant health iss… wait …
SCIENCE said:
Yeah but you know at least there are medications andor healthcare interventions out there that can stop COVID-19 andor pregnancy before it causes significant health iss… wait …
it’s worse than the kid says, much worse, more like something venereal, more like an infection that doesn’t respond well to treatments, antibiotic resistant gonorrhea maybe, but infinitely more common and contagious, much worse that way, and it only requires verbal intercourse to catch it
and I say infinitely more meaning unlimited
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Yeah but you know at least there are medications andor healthcare interventions out there that can stop COVID-19 andor pregnancy before it causes significant health iss… wait …
it’s worse than the kid says, much worse, more like something venereal, more like an infection that doesn’t respond well to treatments, antibiotic resistant gonorrhea maybe, but infinitely more common and contagious, much worse that way, and it only requires verbal intercourse to catch it
and I say infinitely more meaning unlimited
and God help us if catching covid is seen as like getting pregnant, and bringing new life into the world, takes me back to a former premier of one of the eastern States, it was like the person was bringing new life into the world, such was the enthusiasm for it spreading all around the country
I see Covid cases on the rise this month.
Not just here, also NZ, France, UK, Canada, India etc.
Also Bangladesh, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Tunisia, Turkey, Pakistan, Bhutan, Netherlands, Jordan, Lebanon, Mexico, Iran, Greece, etc.
Case numbers have dropped in Taiwan.
Because Covid cases are on the rise worldwide, Australia has dropped to about 8th worst in the world for cases in large countries.
As usual, international quarantine is ratshit.
Countries with few covid cases per population. Over the past month.
Countries with many covid cases per population. Over the past month.
Please sign this if you can.
Spiny Norman said:
Please sign this if you can.
Done.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Spiny Norman said:
Please sign this if you can.
Done.
question, what form is this action to take
our Prime Minister, Federal and State Health Ministers, Premiers, Chief Health Officers, Chief Ministers and other leaders to implement community-wide mask wearing in public indoor settings
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Spiny Norman said:
Please sign this if you can.
Done.
question, what form is this action to take
our Prime Minister, Federal and State Health Ministers, Premiers, Chief Health Officers, Chief Ministers and other leaders to implement community-wide mask wearing in public indoor settings
Imperial Decree I believe.
long live the queen
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Spiny Norman said:
Please sign this if you can.
Done.
question, what form is this action to take
our Prime Minister, Federal and State Health Ministers, Premiers, Chief Health Officers, Chief Ministers and other leaders to implement community-wide mask wearing in public indoor settings
Mask wearing mandates in place -> petitions to remove mask wearing mandate.
Mask wearing mandates removed -> petitions to implement mask wearing mandates.
SCIENCE said:
long live the queen
?
Woodie said:
SCIENCE said:Witty Rejoinder said:
Done.
question, what form is this action to take
our Prime Minister, Federal and State Health Ministers, Premiers, Chief Health Officers, Chief Ministers and other leaders to implement community-wide mask wearing in public indoor settings
Mask wearing mandates in place -> petitions to remove mask wearing mandate.
Mask wearing mandates removed -> petitions to implement mask wearing mandates.
one are they from the same people
Woodie said:
SCIENCE said:Witty Rejoinder said:
Done.
question, what form is this action to take
our Prime Minister, Federal and State Health Ministers, Premiers, Chief Health Officers, Chief Ministers and other leaders to implement community-wide mask wearing in public indoor settings
Mask wearing mandates in place -> petitions to remove mask wearing mandate.
Mask wearing mandates removed -> petitions to implement mask wearing mandates.
two wait is that petition for the introduction of authoritarian police state lockdown style restrictions forcing free humans to wear face diapers
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
long live the queenquestion, what form is this action to take
our Prime Minister, Federal and State Health Ministers, Premiers, Chief Health Officers, Chief Ministers and other leaders to implement community-wide mask wearing in public indoor settings
?
My post
Imperial Decree I believe.
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
buffy said:
Everything that goes around comes around. I can only hope they don’t include norovirus as an added extra.
Might as well throw in Monkeypox as well just to be sure.
And this time, having a son-in-law in the upper echelons of the Liberal party is not going to be any help.
QLDLabor are plenty capable of Corruption
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:Tau.Neutrino said:
Might as well throw in Monkeypox as well just to be sure.
And this time, having a son-in-law in the upper echelons of the Liberal party is not going to be any help.
QLDLabor are plenty capable of Corruption
Sad to say.
https://magazine.jhsph.edu/2022/circulation-problems
sarahs mum said:
https://magazine.jhsph.edu/2022/circulation-problems
Steer clear of indoor spaces that aren’t your own home, as much as is feasible.
sarahs mum said:
https://magazine.jhsph.edu/2022/circulation-problems
read some that, get back to it later
i’d suggest the slowness to getting around to it was because the reality (what was required) was nearing the higher end of what native fear (tending aversion) would generate regard swapping air in shared spaces, almost requires paranoia, what might be felt to be so
aversion to swapping air in shared spaces can be highly disrupting and distorting, no less so if there are no formal conventions normalized around prophylaxis that way (masks for example)
people have aversion to fear, much of the comfortableness of any private or social setting has about it an absence of fear, so there are social forces to make feeling comfortable possible, casually swapping air is generally large part of that comfortableness
most adults that ever exhaled on a mirror or glass, or exhaled mist on a cool night, and had at the time a working concept of respiratory contagion, simple cold viruses or whatever, have a notion of transmission that way, possibility of
there was an aversion to creating excessive worries about swapping air
Got the 2nd booster earlier today, a Moderna jab. It was expertly delivered, I couldn’t feel the needle at all.
Spiny Norman said:
Got the 2nd booster earlier today, a Moderna jab. It was expertly delivered, I couldn’t feel the needle at all.
same mine didn’t feel at all
Spiny Norman said:
Got the 2nd booster earlier today, a Moderna jab. It was expertly delivered, I couldn’t feel the needle at all.
Jolly good.
I ought to enquire about it. I’ll be seeing the GP on Thursday.
transition said:
one of my readies, SCIENCE might like have a look, at the PDF
thanks
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
https://magazine.jhsph.edu/2022/circulation-problems
read some that, get back to it later
i’d suggest the slowness to getting around to it was because the reality (what was required) was nearing the higher end of what native fear (tending aversion) would generate regard swapping air in shared spaces, almost requires paranoia, what might be felt to be so
aversion to swapping air in shared spaces can be highly disrupting and distorting, no less so if there are no formal conventions normalized around prophylaxis that way (masks for example)
people have aversion to fear, much of the comfortableness of any private or social setting has about it an absence of fear, so there are social forces to make feeling comfortable possible, casually swapping air is generally large part of that comfortableness
most adults that ever exhaled on a mirror or glass, or exhaled mist on a cool night, and had at the time a working concept of respiratory contagion, simple cold viruses or whatever, have a notion of transmission that way, possibility of
there was an aversion to creating excessive worries about swapping air
there exist, also, various infection near-field variables and contradictions (even paradoxical aspects) regard airborne contagion
conjure two people standing outdoors talking, there’s a crosswind directly across them one to the other, the upwind person maybe safe to a distance of 1 metre, the downwind person might be safe to four metres, now consider that any enclosed space expands the near field
you have then a concept (more a native feel) of near field, humans have instincts related proximity (attribute intentions and whatever), but not all people are likely to interpret enclosed areas as the near field expanded, I mean near means near, how could it be further away
and in busy enclosed area adjustments are made to sensing near field, it gets compressed you could say, so consider compression and simultaneous real expansion of what might technically more be considered the near field regard airborne contagion
Laugh Out Loud
Health experts say state and federal authorities are pursuing the wrong strategies as Victoria’s COVID hospital admissions have soared almost 80 per cent over the past three weeks.
The number of patients being treated for COVID in the state’s hospitals rose from 402 in mid-July to 717 on Monday.
Key points:
Clinical scientist Bruce Thompson says the third wave broke out as more workers returned to the office and mask mandates were abandoned
Infectious disease expert Brendan Crabb says removing all restrictions and relying on vaccinations to protect the vulnerable was the wrong decision
The AMA says the next two months will be a “really high-risk period” for catching COVID
More…
Tau.Neutrino said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/victoria-covid-hospitalisations-soar-as-omicron-variant-spreads/101227492Health experts say state and federal authorities are pursuing the wrong strategies as Victoria’s COVID hospital admissions have soared almost 80 per cent over the past three weeks.
The number of patients being treated for COVID in the state’s hospitals rose from 402 in mid-July to 717 on Monday.
Key points:
Clinical scientist Bruce Thompson says the third wave broke out as more workers returned to the office and mask mandates were abandoned
Infectious disease expert Brendan Crabb says removing all restrictions and relying on vaccinations to protect the vulnerable was the wrong decision
The AMA says the next two months will be a “really high-risk period” for catching COVIDMore…
Bring back Mask mandates?
Place emphasis on mask fit.
Improve masks to reduce perspiration.
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud
so many open Darwinists today, though that’s unkind to Darwin, sickly man doubt he was or would have been much into making such things social policy and part of political philosophy, the maiming and repeat maiming, and killing
Tau.Neutrino said:
Bring back Mask mandates?Place emphasis on mask fit.
Improve masks to reduce perspiration.
ABC News:
‘A cruise ship with a COVID-19 outbreak among crew and passengers will arrive in New South Wales today as the state government announces a key change to its reinfection policy.
Queensland Health said about 100 people on board the Carnival Australia ship, Coral Princess, have tested positive to the virus since it left Brisbane on Sunday. ‘
We’ll soon be seeing kids in T-shirts with thing printed on them like ‘my parents went on a Princess cruise, and all i got was this lousy virus’.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘A cruise ship with a COVID-19 outbreak among crew and passengers will arrive in New South Wales today as the state government announces a key change to its reinfection policy.
Queensland Health said about 100 people on board the Carnival Australia ship, Coral Princess, have tested positive to the virus since it left Brisbane on Sunday. ‘
We’ll soon be seeing kids in T-shirts with thing printed on them like ‘my parents went on a Princess cruise, and all i got was this lousy virus’.
It’s running rife and I doubt anyone knows the real numbers..
I reckon I had it about a month ago but I wasn’t very ill.
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s running rife and I doubt anyone knows the real numbers..
I reckon I had it about a month ago but I wasn’t very ill.
ABC News:
‘Police in India have shut down an elaborate hoax cricket league that saw labourers masquerading as professional cricket players allegedly to dupe gamblers in Russia.
Key points:
Fashioned along the lines of the popular Indian Premier League, a group of men in the western Indian state of Gujarat hired a field, set up cameras and asked local labourers to dress up in team uniforms and play cricket.
The games were then streamed on YouTube to unsuspecting betting operations in Russia, who bet on match outcomes, Achal Tyagi, the top police official in Mehsana district told Reuters.’
This is just so damn impressive. Yeah, it’s criminal, but, crikey, it’s impressive.
Sorry, wrong thread.
captain_spalding said:
Sorry, wrong thread.
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s running rife and I doubt anyone knows the real numbers..
I reckon I had it about a month ago but I wasn’t very ill.
You’ve had a jab or two in the arm I guess?
It’s one of the problems – There’s people that don’t have very debilitating symptoms so other people think it’s no big deal. :(
Anyway glad you’re okay.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Police in India have shut down an elaborate hoax cricket league that saw labourers masquerading as professional cricket players allegedly to dupe gamblers in Russia.
Key points:Fashioned along the lines of the popular Indian Premier League, a group of men in the western Indian state of Gujarat hired a field, set up cameras and asked local labourers to dress up in team uniforms and play cricket.
The games were then streamed on YouTube to unsuspecting betting operations in Russia, who bet on match outcomes, Achal Tyagi, the top police official in Mehsana district told Reuters.’
This is just so damn impressive. Yeah, it’s criminal, but, crikey, it’s impressive.
LOL
Have we heard how furious is going?
btm said:
Have we heard how furious is going?
He’s furious apparently.
A bit Covid related:
…
New Zealand got it wrong’: The man vying to topple Jacinda Ardern and open up the nation
https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/new-zealand-got-it-wrong-the-man-vying-to-topple-jacinda-ardern-and-open-up-the-nation-20220709-p5b0bl.html
Victoria’s Health Minister has said she dismissed recommendations from the state’s Chief Health Officer to mandate mask wearing in retail and early education settings in response to rising case numbers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/vvictoria-health-minister-dismisses-cho-mask-advice/101229884
I mean really, wtf?
Last year they’d shut down the state, this year it is “m’eh”. This is rather insane.
sibeen said:
Victoria’s Health Minister has said she dismissed recommendations from the state’s Chief Health Officer to mandate mask wearing in retail and early education settings in response to rising case numbers.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/vvictoria-health-minister-dismisses-cho-mask-advice/101229884
I mean really, wtf?
Last year they’d shut down the state, this year it is “m’eh”. This is rather insane.
“Further mandating of masks was not the most effective way of getting the message out about the importance of mask wearing. We need to empower Victorians to make their own decisions.
I was thinking the same and that was before reading the article. surely people know by now?
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Victoria’s Health Minister has said she dismissed recommendations from the state’s Chief Health Officer to mandate mask wearing in retail and early education settings in response to rising case numbers.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/vvictoria-health-minister-dismisses-cho-mask-advice/101229884
I mean really, wtf?
Last year they’d shut down the state, this year it is “m’eh”. This is rather insane.
“Further mandating of masks was not the most effective way of getting the message out about the importance of mask wearing. We need to empower Victorians to make their own decisions.
I was thinking the same and that was before reading the article. surely people know by now?
Yeah, but I suspect that mandating of masks would increase the number of masks worn by an order of magnitude.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Victoria’s Health Minister has said she dismissed recommendations from the state’s Chief Health Officer to mandate mask wearing in retail and early education settings in response to rising case numbers.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/vvictoria-health-minister-dismisses-cho-mask-advice/101229884
I mean really, wtf?
Last year they’d shut down the state, this year it is “m’eh”. This is rather insane.
“Further mandating of masks was not the most effective way of getting the message out about the importance of mask wearing. We need to empower Victorians to make their own decisions.
I was thinking the same and that was before reading the article. surely people know by now?
Yeah, but I suspect that mandating of masks would increase the number of masks worn by an order of magnitude.
meh, let the stupid die.
sibeen said:
Victoria’s Health Minister has said she dismissed recommendations from the state’s Chief Health Officer to mandate mask wearing in retail and early education settings in response to rising case numbers.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/vvictoria-health-minister-dismisses-cho-mask-advice/101229884
I mean really, wtf?
Last year they’d shut down the state, this year it is “m’eh”. This is rather insane.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:“Further mandating of masks was not the most effective way of getting the message out about the importance of mask wearing. We need to empower Victorians to make their own decisions.
I was thinking the same and that was before reading the article. surely people know by now?
Yeah, but I suspect that mandating of masks would increase the number of masks worn by an order of magnitude.
meh, let the stupid die.
welcome the compulsory super-pandemic, the view is that as it gets bad enough people will self-regulate behavior to limit it – self-limit – which required minimum intervention by government, they avoid creeping expanding interventions, and it has the benefit of people learning who their masters are, which is money in-great-part, and not a little is invested here from abroad and looking for returns
expanding the pathosphere has additional benefits I might add, no shortage of lessons to be had from that toward learning who your masters are, and that maybe is the level of desperation as the wheels are falling off, that a serious disease might serve to further the lessons that way
transition said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:Yeah, but I suspect that mandating of masks would increase the number of masks worn by an order of magnitude.
meh, let the stupid die.
welcome the compulsory super-pandemic, the view is that as it gets bad enough people will self-regulate behavior to limit it – self-limit – which required minimum intervention by government, they avoid creeping expanding interventions, and it has the benefit of people learning who their masters are, which is money in-great-part, and not a little is invested here from abroad and looking for returns
expanding the pathosphere has additional benefits I might add, no shortage of lessons to be had from that toward learning who your masters are, and that maybe is the level of desperation as the wheels are falling off, that a serious disease might serve to further the lessons that way
Perhaps it’s a lesson everything happening is the best of the worse to come so get used to it.
Does BA.5 cause more severe disease than earlier Omicron subvariants?
With the Omicron subtype BA.5 rapidly becoming dominant in the United States a small body of research has begun to reveal the unique properties of this novel SARS-CoV-2 variant. Two recent preprints have described how BA.5 is more immune-evasive than prior iterations of the virus and how it could lead to more severe disease.
https://newatlas.com/health-wellbeing/does-ba5-cause-severe-disease-omicron-covid-ba2-study/
while you’re all distracted over there we’re just going to roll this down the aisle and watch it quietly fizzle, it is alleged that certain things have been said by executives of companies that stand to profit from maximising pandemic spread
laugh out loud
SCIENCE said:
while you’re all distracted over there we’re just going to roll this down the aisle and watch it quietly fizzle, it is alleged that certain things have been said by executives of companies that stand to profit from maximising pandemic spread
laugh out loud
I read that thoroughly, master science, will again later
SCIENCE said:
while you’re all distracted over there we’re just going to roll this down the aisle and watch it quietly fizzle, it is alleged that certain things have been said by executives of companies that stand to profit from maximising pandemic spread
laugh out loud
It’s certainly not a good look but which politicians in some companies’ pockets are we talking about here? Dan Andrews who now is seemingly prepared to disregard the CHO’s advice for the benefit of Pfizer? Joe Biden who would be funding the federal rollout of Paxlovid in the US for the filthy lucre? The simpler explanation is that the population is weary of COVID and just wants to get on with living life despite it meaning that it will become one of the leading causes of death and especially dangerous amongst the old and infirm who deserve better.
If you go down the rabbithole of Onty’s globalist endemnicists where are you going to stop before you think Bill Gates is doing it all to insert microchips in our branes?
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
while you’re all distracted over there we’re just going to roll this down the aisle and watch it quietly fizzle, it is alleged that certain things have been said by executives of companies that stand to profit from maximising pandemic spread
laugh out loud
It’s certainly not a good look but which politicians in some companies’ pockets are we talking about here? Dan Andrews who now is seemingly prepared to disregard the CHO’s advice for the benefit of Pfizer? Joe Biden who would be funding the federal rollout of Paxlovid in the US for the filthy lucre? The simpler explanation is that the population is weary of COVID and just wants to get on with living life despite it meaning that it will become one of the leading causes of death and especially dangerous amongst the old and infirm who deserve better.
If you go down the rabbithole of Onty’s globalist endemnicists where are you going to stop before you think Bill Gates is doing it all to insert microchips in our branes?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/victoria-health-minister-dismisses-cho-mask-advice/101229884
“Further mandating of masks was not the most effective way of getting the message out about the importance of mask wearing. We need to empower Victorians to make their own decisions.”
victorian health minister.
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
while you’re all distracted over there we’re just going to roll this down the aisle and watch it quietly fizzle, it is alleged that certain things have been said by executives of companies that stand to profit from maximising pandemic spread
laugh out loud
It’s certainly not a good look but which politicians in some companies’ pockets are we talking about here? Dan Andrews who now is seemingly prepared to disregard the CHO’s advice for the benefit of Pfizer? Joe Biden who would be funding the federal rollout of Paxlovid in the US for the filthy lucre? The simpler explanation is that the population is weary of COVID and just wants to get on with living life despite it meaning that it will become one of the leading causes of death and especially dangerous amongst the old and infirm who deserve better.
If you go down the rabbithole of Onty’s globalist endemnicists where are you going to stop before you think Bill Gates is doing it all to insert microchips in our branes?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/victoria-health-minister-dismisses-cho-mask-advice/101229884
“Further mandating of masks was not the most effective way of getting the message out about the importance of mask wearing. We need to empower Victorians to make their own decisions.”
victorian health minister.
Didn’t you say sometrhing about letting the stupid die earlier? ;-)
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:It’s certainly not a good look but which politicians in some companies’ pockets are we talking about here? Dan Andrews who now is seemingly prepared to disregard the CHO’s advice for the benefit of Pfizer? Joe Biden who would be funding the federal rollout of Paxlovid in the US for the filthy lucre? The simpler explanation is that the population is weary of COVID and just wants to get on with living life despite it meaning that it will become one of the leading causes of death and especially dangerous amongst the old and infirm who deserve better.
If you go down the rabbithole of Onty’s globalist endemnicists where are you going to stop before you think Bill Gates is doing it all to insert microchips in our branes?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/victoria-health-minister-dismisses-cho-mask-advice/101229884
“Further mandating of masks was not the most effective way of getting the message out about the importance of mask wearing. We need to empower Victorians to make their own decisions.”
victorian health minister.
Didn’t you say sometrhing about letting the stupid die earlier? ;-)
I did and I don’t resile from that.
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
while you’re all distracted over there we’re just going to roll this down the aisle and watch it quietly fizzle, it is alleged that certain things have been said by executives of companies that stand to profit from maximising pandemic spread
laugh out loud
It’s certainly not a good look but which politicians in some companies’ pockets are we talking about here? Dan Andrews who now is seemingly prepared to disregard the CHO’s advice for the benefit of Pfizer? Joe Biden who would be funding the federal rollout of Paxlovid in the US for the filthy lucre? The simpler explanation is that the population is weary of COVID and just wants to get on with living life despite it meaning that it will become one of the leading causes of death and especially dangerous amongst the old and infirm who deserve better.
If you go down the rabbithole of Onty’s globalist endemnicists where are you going to stop before you think Bill Gates is doing it all to insert microchips in our branes?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/victoria-health-minister-dismisses-cho-mask-advice/101229884
“Further mandating of masks was not the most effective way of getting the message out about the importance of mask wearing. We need to empower Victorians to make their own decisions.”
victorian health minister.
¿ is it possible for business interests to fill a void of governance andor for businesses to manipulate human behaviour ?
oh sorry we’re asking the wrong questions
¿ are privatisation andor advertising real phenomena ?
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
while you’re all distracted over there we’re just going to roll this down the aisle and watch it quietly fizzle, it is alleged that certain things have been said by executives of companies that stand to profit from maximising pandemic spread
laugh out loud
It’s certainly not a good look but which politicians in some companies’ pockets are we talking about here? Dan Andrews who now is seemingly prepared to disregard the CHO’s advice for the benefit of Pfizer? Joe Biden who would be funding the federal rollout of Paxlovid in the US for the filthy lucre? The simpler explanation is that the population is weary of COVID and just wants to get on with living life despite it meaning that it will become one of the leading causes of death and especially dangerous amongst the old and infirm who deserve better.
If you go down the rabbithole of Onty’s globalist endemnicists where are you going to stop before you think Bill Gates is doing it all to insert microchips in our branes?
you done
more to the subject, there is something of an informal dimension to relationships between governments and pharma(re supplying vaccines etc for covid), a non-explicated dimension involving diminished responsibility and liability – an unspoken arrangement, which influences social-health policies of whichever example country, Australia for example
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
while you’re all distracted over there we’re just going to roll this down the aisle and watch it quietly fizzle, it is alleged that certain things have been said by executives of companies that stand to profit from maximising pandemic spread
laugh out loud
It’s certainly not a good look but which politicians in some companies’ pockets are we talking about here? Dan Andrews who now is seemingly prepared to disregard the CHO’s advice for the benefit of Pfizer? Joe Biden who would be funding the federal rollout of Paxlovid in the US for the filthy lucre? The simpler explanation is that the population is weary of COVID and just wants to get on with living life despite it meaning that it will become one of the leading causes of death and especially dangerous amongst the old and infirm who deserve better.
If you go down the rabbithole of Onty’s globalist endemnicists where are you going to stop before you think Bill Gates is doing it all to insert microchips in our branes?
you done
more to the subject, there is something of an informal dimension to relationships between governments and pharma(re supplying vaccines etc for covid), a non-explicated dimension involving diminished responsibility and liability – an unspoken arrangement, which influences social-health policies of whichever example country, Australia for example
If you say so. You’re saying something. I don’t really know what but you’re certainly saying something.
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:It’s certainly not a good look but which politicians in some companies’ pockets are we talking about here? Dan Andrews who now is seemingly prepared to disregard the CHO’s advice for the benefit of Pfizer? Joe Biden who would be funding the federal rollout of Paxlovid in the US for the filthy lucre? The simpler explanation is that the population is weary of COVID and just wants to get on with living life despite it meaning that it will become one of the leading causes of death and especially dangerous amongst the old and infirm who deserve better.
If you go down the rabbithole of Onty’s globalist endemnicists where are you going to stop before you think Bill Gates is doing it all to insert microchips in our branes?
you done
more to the subject, there is something of an informal dimension to relationships between governments and pharma(re supplying vaccines etc for covid), a non-explicated dimension involving diminished responsibility and liability – an unspoken arrangement, which influences social-health policies of whichever example country, Australia for example
If you say so. You’re saying something. I don’t really know what but you’re certainly saying something.
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccine-claims-scheme
The Australian Government has implemented a claims scheme to enable eligible claimants who have received a TGA-approved COVID-19 vaccine to obtain compensation for recognised moderate to severe vaccine-related adverse events.
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:you done
more to the subject, there is something of an informal dimension to relationships between governments and pharma(re supplying vaccines etc for covid), a non-explicated dimension involving diminished responsibility and liability – an unspoken arrangement, which influences social-health policies of whichever example country, Australia for example
If you say so. You’re saying something. I don’t really know what but you’re certainly saying something.
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccine-claims-scheme
The Australian Government has implemented a claims scheme to enable eligible claimants who have received a TGA-approved COVID-19 vaccine to obtain compensation for recognised moderate to severe vaccine-related adverse events.
Is that evidence that big pharma and nefarious pollies are in cahoots?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:If you say so. You’re saying something. I don’t really know what but you’re certainly saying something.
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccine-claims-scheme
The Australian Government has implemented a claims scheme to enable eligible claimants who have received a TGA-approved COVID-19 vaccine to obtain compensation for recognised moderate to severe vaccine-related adverse events.
Is that evidence that big pharma and nefarious pollies are in cahoots?
no it is to stop pharma having to deal with a multitude of frivolous claims against them. it is a common scheme around the world i believe.
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/victoria-health-minister-dismisses-cho-mask-advice/101229884
“Further mandating of masks was not the most effective way of getting the message out about the importance of mask wearing. We need to empower Victorians to make their own decisions.”
victorian health minister.
Didn’t you say sometrhing about letting the stupid die earlier? ;-)
I did and I don’t resile from that.
we don’t understand, unlike many other personal risk magnifiers, we thought infectious disease by its very nature is one of those things where people choosing to increase their own risk inherently increase the risk for others at least as much
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccine-claims-scheme
The Australian Government has implemented a claims scheme to enable eligible claimants who have received a TGA-approved COVID-19 vaccine to obtain compensation for recognised moderate to severe vaccine-related adverse events.
Is that evidence that big pharma and nefarious pollies are in cahoots?
no it is to stop pharma having to deal with a multitude of frivolous claims against them. it is a common scheme around the world i believe.
why do they have to be in cahoots, this is bullshit conspiracy theoretics yous all are advancing, literally there are things that are convenient for shit government and shit business at the same time and funnily enough it’s possible to agree on things without planning it all in advance
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Is that evidence that big pharma and nefarious pollies are in cahoots?
no it is to stop pharma having to deal with a multitude of frivolous claims against them. it is a common scheme around the world i believe.
why do they have to be in cahoots, this is bullshit conspiracy theoretics yous all are advancing, literally there are things that are convenient for shit government and shit business at the same time and funnily enough it’s possible to agree on things without planning it all in advance
please don’t include me in your ‘yous”. Ta.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:If you say so. You’re saying something. I don’t really know what but you’re certainly saying something.
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccine-claims-scheme
The Australian Government has implemented a claims scheme to enable eligible claimants who have received a TGA-approved COVID-19 vaccine to obtain compensation for recognised moderate to severe vaccine-related adverse events.
Is that evidence that big pharma and nefarious pollies are in cahoots?
just think for a moment, you’re a vaccine manufacturer, other than money returns what else might you want, say to limit your liability, because you can be sure supplying billions of doses of vaccine isn’t without risk
somewhere, somehow, there’s an exchange of something so both the supplier and receiver ‘share’ the liability, ultimately whatever diminishes liability for both parties, then there’s end-consumers if you like who become part of a further arrangement or agreement
think of this way, like a really dumb example especially for you
when I got my covid vaccines the nurse asks which arm would you like it?
in there is a final permission just before the needle goes in, a permission to deliver a vaccine into your body, and you could safely argue you’re agreeing to quite a bit more
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccine-claims-scheme
The Australian Government has implemented a claims scheme to enable eligible claimants who have received a TGA-approved COVID-19 vaccine to obtain compensation for recognised moderate to severe vaccine-related adverse events.
Is that evidence that big pharma and nefarious pollies are in cahoots?
just think for a moment, you’re a vaccine manufacturer, other than money returns what else might you want, say to limit your liability, because you can be sure supplying billions of doses of vaccine isn’t without risk
somewhere, somehow, there’s an exchange of something so both the supplier and receiver ‘share’ the liability, ultimately whatever diminishes liability for both parties, then there’s end-consumers if you like who become part of a further arrangement or agreement
think of this way, like a really dumb example especially for you
when I got my covid vaccines the nurse asks which arm would you like it?
in there is a final permission just before the needle goes in, a permission to deliver a vaccine into your body, and you could safely argue you’re agreeing to quite a bit more
Yeah nah.
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:no it is to stop pharma having to deal with a multitude of frivolous claims against them. it is a common scheme around the world i believe.
why do they have to be in cahoots, this is bullshit conspiracy theoretics yous all are advancing, literally there are things that are convenient for shit government and shit business at the same time and funnily enough it’s possible to agree on things without planning it all in advance
please don’t include me in your ‘yous”. Ta.
sorry we’re just being inclusive but no worries
we just don’t reckon it’s legit’ that Chris here is saying that the idea that profiteering businesses are simply out to make profit, andor the idea that shit populist governments are simply out to do things that might seem popular, are conspiratorial
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Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:why do they have to be in cahoots, this is bullshit conspiracy theoretics yous all are advancing, literally there are things that are convenient for shit government and shit business at the same time and funnily enough it’s possible to agree on things without planning it all in advance
please don’t include me in your ‘yous”. Ta.
sorry we’re just being inclusive but no worries
we just don’t reckon it’s legit’ that Chris here is saying that the idea that profiteering businesses are simply out to make profit, andor the idea that shit populist governments are simply out to do things that might seem popular, are conspiratorial
Shit populist governments like who?
Witty Rejoinder said:
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Bogsnorkler said:please don’t include me in your ‘yous”. Ta.
sorry we’re just being inclusive but no worries
we just don’t reckon it’s legit’ that Chris here is saying that the idea that profiteering businesses are simply out to make profit, andor the idea that shit populist governments are simply out to do things that might seem popular, are conspiratorial
Shit populist governments like who?
any government that relies on popular opinion oh wait
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Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:sorry we’re just being inclusive but no worries
we just don’t reckon it’s legit’ that Chris here is saying that the idea that profiteering businesses are simply out to make profit, andor the idea that shit populist governments are simply out to do things that might seem popular, are conspiratorial
Shit populist governments like who?
any government that relies on popular opinion oh wait
Wow I wonder if there are any examples of good governments???
Witty Rejoinder said:
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Witty Rejoinder said:Shit populist governments like who?
any government that relies on popular opinion oh wait
Wow I wonder if there are any examples of good governments???
STEMocracy
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Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:any government that relies on popular opinion oh wait
Wow I wonder if there are any examples of good governments???
STEMocracy
So none exist then. Very well. Seems strange that you would bring it up though.
Witty Rejoinder said:
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Witty Rejoinder said:
Wow I wonder if there are any examples of good governments???
STEMocracy
So none exist then. Very well. Seems strange that you would bring it up though.
we wonder if Chris ever claimed that a vaccine would [help to] solve this pandemic, even in 2020, when none in fact existed
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STEMocracy
So none exist then. Very well. Seems strange that you would bring it up though.
we wonder if Chris ever claimed that a vaccine would [help to] solve this pandemic, even in 2020, when none in fact existed
Um what?
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Witty Rejoinder said:
So none exist then. Very well. Seems strange that you would bring it up though.
we wonder if Chris ever claimed that a vaccine would [help to] solve this pandemic, even in 2020, when none in fact existed
Um what?
fine if not you then did anyone else think that antiCOVID19vaccines would be a benefit, even though there were no such thing at the time that they thought it
separate discussion, here is your ABC getting all communist
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Witty Rejoinder said:
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we wonder if Chris ever claimed that a vaccine would [help to] solve this pandemic, even in 2020, when none in fact existed
Um what?
fine if not you then did anyone else think that antiCOVID19vaccines would be a benefit, even though there were no such thing at the time that they thought it
You’re asking whether anyone thought that effective vaccines might eventuate?
Witty Rejoinder said:
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Witty Rejoinder said:
Um what?
fine if not you then did anyone else think that antiCOVID19vaccines would be a benefit, even though there were no such thing at the time that they thought it
You’re asking whether anyone thought that effective vaccines might eventuate?
You’re asking whether anyone thought that good government might eventuate?
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Witty Rejoinder said:
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fine if not you then did anyone else think that antiCOVID19vaccines would be a benefit, even though there were no such thing at the time that they thought it
You’re asking whether anyone thought that effective vaccines might eventuate?
You’re asking whether anyone thought that good government might eventuate?
We’ve already concluded that there are no good governments.
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
You’re asking whether anyone thought that effective vaccines might eventuate?
You’re asking whether anyone thought that good government might eventuate?
We’ve already concluded that there are no good governments.
Wait, so when there was no antiCOVID19vaccine, it was incorrect to conclude that there was no antiCOVID19vaccine¿
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Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
You’re asking whether anyone thought that good government might eventuate?
We’ve already concluded that there are no good governments.
Wait, so when there was no antiCOVID19vaccine, it was incorrect to conclude that there was no antiCOVID19vaccine¿
Say it slowly. Use your words…
Witty Rejoinder said:
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Witty Rejoinder said:
We’ve already concluded that there are no good governments.
Wait, so when there was no antiCOVID19vaccine, it was incorrect to conclude that there was no antiCOVID19vaccine¿
Say it slowly. Use your words…
hey you’re the one falling to premature conclusions
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Wait, so when there was no antiCOVID19vaccine, it was incorrect to conclude that there was no antiCOVID19vaccine¿
Say it slowly. Use your words…
hey you’re the one falling to premature conclusions
No i’m just waiting for you to say what you so wish to say regardless of how embarrassing it would be.
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Witty Rejoinder said:
Say it slowly. Use your words…
hey you’re the one falling to premature conclusions
No i’m just waiting for you to say what you so wish to say regardless of how embarrassing it would be.
we’ve already said it, but we apologise that it was embarrassing for those like Chris here who were claiming there was a conspiracy
literally there are things that are convenient for shit government and shit business at the same time and funnily enough it’s possible to agree on things without planning it all in advance
we just don’t reckon it’s legit’ that Chris here is saying that the idea that profiteering businesses are simply out to make profit, andor the idea that shit populist governments are simply out to do things that might seem popular, are conspiratorial
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:SCIENCE said:
hey you’re the one falling to premature conclusions
No i’m just waiting for you to say what you so wish to say regardless of how embarrassing it would be.
we’ve already said it, but we apologise that it was embarrassing for those like Chris here who were claiming there was a conspiracy
literally there are things that are convenient for shit government and shit business at the same time and funnily enough it’s possible to agree on things without planning it all in advance
we just don’t reckon it’s legit’ that Chris here is saying that the idea that profiteering businesses are simply out to make profit, andor the idea that shit populist governments are simply out to do things that might seem popular, are conspiratorial
You keep going around and around in circles. Why don’t you just say it?
I’m booked in for my fourth jab on the 25th. I’m also getting the flu shot at the same time as apparently that’s allowed now. I’ll be as autistic as all get out.
sibeen said:
I’m booked in for my fourth jab on the 25th. I’m also getting the flu shot at the same time as apparently that’s allowed now. I’ll be as autistic as all get out.
will we even notice?
Witty Rejoinder said:
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Witty Rejoinder said:
No i’m just waiting for you to say what you so wish to say regardless of how embarrassing it would be.
we’ve already said it, but we apologise that it was embarrassing for those like Chris here who were claiming there was a conspiracy
literally there are things that are convenient for shit government and shit business at the same time and funnily enough it’s possible to agree on things without planning it all in advance
we just don’t reckon it’s legit’ that Chris here is saying that the idea that profiteering businesses are simply out to make profit, andor the idea that shit populist governments are simply out to do things that might seem popular, are conspiratorial
You keep going around and around in circles. Why don’t you just say it?
we’ve said it here https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1907946/ and here https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1907951/
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:SCIENCE said:
we’ve already said it, but we apologise that it was embarrassing for those like Chris here who were claiming there was a conspiracy
literally there are things that are convenient for shit government and shit business at the same time and funnily enough it’s possible to agree on things without planning it all in advance
we just don’t reckon it’s legit’ that Chris here is saying that the idea that profiteering businesses are simply out to make profit, andor the idea that shit populist governments are simply out to do things that might seem popular, are conspiratorial
You keep going around and around in circles. Why don’t you just say it?
we’ve said it here https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1907946/ and here https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1907951/
Hah. Coward.
Witty Rejoinder said:
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Witty Rejoinder said:
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Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
It’s certainly not a good look but which politicians in some companies’ pockets are we talking about here? Dan Andrews who now is seemingly prepared to disregard the CHO’s advice for the benefit of Pfizer? Joe Biden who would be funding the federal rollout of Paxlovid in the US for the filthy lucre? The simpler explanation is that the population is weary of COVID and just wants to get on with living life despite it meaning that it will become one of the leading causes of death and especially dangerous amongst the old and infirm who deserve better.
If you go down the rabbithole of Onty’s globalist endemnicists where are you going to stop before you think Bill Gates is doing it all to insert microchips in our branes?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/victoria-health-minister-dismisses-cho-mask-advice/101229884
“Further mandating of masks was not the most effective way of getting the message out about the importance of mask wearing. We need to empower Victorians to make their own decisions.”
victorian health minister.
¿ is it possible for business interests to fill a void of governance andor for businesses to manipulate human behaviour ?
oh sorry we’re asking the wrong questions
¿ are privatisation andor advertising real phenomena ?
You keep going around and around in circles. Why don’t you just say it?
we’ve said it here https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1907946/ and here https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1907951/ and here https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1907957/
Hah. Coward.
no, we prefer to be called fucking idiots, for not actually knowing what it is you want us to say to put in our mouths as words
we mean did you even answer our questions above or is it one rule for Chris and one rule for the rest of us
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Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
we’ve said it here https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1907946/ and here https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1907951/ and here https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1907957/
Hah. Coward.
no, we prefer to be called fucking idiots, for not actually knowing what it is you want
us to sayto put in our mouths as wordswe mean did you even answer our questions above or is it one rule for Chris and one rule for the rest of us
Hey hey settle down. We’re all friends here except sibeen obv.
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Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
we’ve said it here https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1907946/ and here https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1907951/ and here https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1907957/
Hah. Coward.
no, we prefer to be called fucking idiots, for not actually knowing what it is you want
us to sayto put in our mouths as wordswe mean did you even answer our questions above or is it one rule for Chris and one rule for the rest of us
Calm down. Don’t have a tanty. It must annoy you to be so transparent so I’ll leave you to it.
dv said:
SCIENCE said:Witty Rejoinder said:
Hah. Coward.
no, we prefer to be called fucking idiots, for not actually knowing what it is you want
us to sayto put in our mouths as wordswe mean did you even answer our questions above or is it one rule for Chris and one rule for the rest of us
Hey hey settle down. We’re all friends here except sibeen obv.
MZL doesn’t have any friends.
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Hah. Coward.
no, we prefer to be called fucking idiots, for not actually knowing what it is you want
us to sayto put in our mouths as wordswe mean did you even answer our questions above or is it one rule for Chris and one rule for the rest of us
Calm down. Don’t have a tanty. It must annoy you to be so transparent so I’ll leave you to it.
fair enough you mean you have no sensible and valid response to address the content so it’s about the tone now
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dv said:
SCIENCE said:
no, we prefer to be called fucking idiots, for not actually knowing what it is you want
us to sayto put in our mouths as wordswe mean did you even answer our questions above or is it one rule for Chris and one rule for the rest of us
Hey hey settle down. We’re all friends here except sibeen obv.
MZL doesn’t have any friends.
good point and one we can finally agree on thank you for your kindness and concession
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Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
no, we prefer to be called fucking idiots, for not actually knowing what it is you want
us to sayto put in our mouths as wordswe mean did you even answer our questions above or is it one rule for Chris and one rule for the rest of us
Calm down. Don’t have a tanty. It must annoy you to be so transparent so I’ll leave you to it.
fair enough you mean you have no sensible and valid response to address the content so it’s about the tone now
Umm no. Just because I don’t engage with you on the content of one post doesn’t mean I can’t engage with you on others. I’m just amusing myself with the elephant in the room that you daren’t mention. I’ll make it simple: Are there any examples of good governments?
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:Witty Rejoinder said:
Calm down. Don’t have a tanty. It must annoy you to be so transparent so I’ll leave you to it.
fair enough you mean you have no sensible and valid response to address the content so it’s about the tone now
Umm no. Just because I don’t engage with you on the content of one post doesn’t mean I can’t engage with you on others. I’m just amusing myself with the elephant in the room that you daren’t mention. I’ll make it simple: Are there any examples of good governments?
STEMocracy
Laugh Out Loud
joking
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Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:fair enough you mean you have no sensible and valid response to address the content so it’s about the tone now
Umm no. Just because I don’t engage with you on the content of one post doesn’t mean I can’t engage with you on others. I’m just amusing myself with the elephant in the room that you daren’t mention. I’ll make it simple: Are there any examples of good governments?
STEMocracy
Are there any socalle
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:fair enough you mean you have no sensible and valid response to address the content so it’s about the tone now
Umm no. Just because I don’t engage with you on the content of one post doesn’t mean I can’t engage with you on others. I’m just amusing myself with the elephant in the room that you daren’t mention. I’ll make it simple: Are there any examples of good governments?
STEMocracy
Are there any socalle
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:fair enough you mean you have no sensible and valid response to address the content so it’s about the tone now
Umm no. Just because I don’t engage with you on the content of one post doesn’t mean I can’t engage with you on others. I’m just amusing myself with the elephant in the room that you daren’t mention. I’ll make it simple: Are there any examples of good governments?
STEMocracy
Are there any so called STEMocracies?
Witty Rejoinder said:
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Umm no. Just because I don’t engage with you on the content of one post doesn’t mean I can’t engage with you on others. I’m just amusing myself with the elephant in the room that you daren’t mention. I’ll make it simple: Are there any examples of good governments?
STEMocracy
Are there any so called STEMocracies?
have you heard of any
there we found it we don’t have to say it expressly ourselves ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha the fucking ahahahahaha
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Witty Rejoinder said:
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STEMocracy
Are there any so called STEMocracies?
have you heard of any
You first…
Witty Rejoinder said:
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Witty Rejoinder said:
Are there any so called STEMocracies?
have you heard of any
You first…
why, is this an entrance examination or some kind of primary school test or something
Health authorities urge government to extend free RAT test scheme for vulnerable Australians
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/government-urged-not-to-end-free-rat-scheme/101232642
The Federal Health Minister Mark Butler on Tuesday confirmed the program, which was introduced by the Morrison government in January, would not be extended beyond July arguing it is “about the right time” for it to end.
OK, this is a stupid, stupid decision.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:no, we prefer to be called fucking idiots, for not actually knowing what it is you want
us to sayto put in our mouths as wordswe mean did you even answer our questions above or is it one rule for Chris and one rule for the rest of us
Hey hey settle down. We’re all friends here except sibeen obv.
MZL doesn’t have any friends.
I’m your friend, MZL, or at least not officially an enemy
sibeen said:
Health authorities urge government to extend free RAT test scheme for vulnerable Australians
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/government-urged-not-to-end-free-rat-scheme/101232642
The Federal Health Minister Mark Butler on Tuesday confirmed the program, which was introduced by the Morrison government in January, would not be extended beyond July arguing it is “about the right time” for it to end.
OK, this is a stupid, stupid decision.
¿ in what way ?
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Hey hey settle down. We’re all friends here except sibeen obv.
MZL doesn’t have any friends.
I’m your friend, MZL, or at least not officially an enemy
well thanks believe it or not we actually hope to meet some of yous Forum anonymice “IRL” when we leave this place as promised* after the pandemic ends, just to discover how different everyone is to how they look in the black and white sans-serif
*: actually we’ll probably still post an occasional redactle or something just to keep it fun
SCIENCE said:
dv said:Witty Rejoinder said:
MZL doesn’t have any friends.
I’m your friend, MZL, or at least not officially an enemy
well thanks believe it or not we actually hope to meet some of yous Forum anonymice “IRL” when we leave this place as promised* after the pandemic ends, just to discover how different everyone is to how they look in the black and white sans-serif
*: actually we’ll probably still post an occasional redactle or something just to keep it fun
Oh so you’re too good for the forum now, wow
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:
Health authorities urge government to extend free RAT test scheme for vulnerable Australians
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/government-urged-not-to-end-free-rat-scheme/101232642
The Federal Health Minister Mark Butler on Tuesday confirmed the program, which was introduced by the Morrison government in January, would not be extended beyond July arguing it is “about the right time” for it to end.
OK, this is a stupid, stupid decision.
¿ in what way ?
I’m sorry, on reflection I have changed my mind. Concession card holders, Low Income Health Care Card, and Seniors Card holders can go fuck themselves. Loosers.
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:
Health authorities urge government to extend free RAT test scheme for vulnerable Australians
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/government-urged-not-to-end-free-rat-scheme/101232642
The Federal Health Minister Mark Butler on Tuesday confirmed the program, which was introduced by the Morrison government in January, would not be extended beyond July arguing it is “about the right time” for it to end.
OK, this is a stupid, stupid decision.
¿ in what way ?
I’m sorry, on reflection I have changed my mind. Concession card holders, Low Income Health Care Card, and Seniors Card holders can go fuck themselves. Loosers.
No it was a genuine question, we had better pandemic control when free PCR testing was available before RATs, and driving around in our hydrocarbon-fuelled* vehicle there are still signs of free PCR testing everywhere. In what way is it a stupid stupid decision¿
*: a luxury
dv said:
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we actually hope to meet some of yous Forum anonymice “IRL” when we leave this place as promised* after the pandemic ends
Oh so you’re too good for the forum now, wow
we will be after the pandemic ends
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
we actually hope to meet some of yous Forum anonymice “IRL” when we leave this place as promised* after the pandemic ends
Oh so you’re too good for the forum now, wow
we will be after the pandemic ends
I better keep fucking monkeys so you can never leave
dv said:
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dv said:
Oh so you’re too good for the forum now, wow
we will be after the pandemic ends
I better keep fucking monkeys so you can never leave
Nah please let the zoo keep the fucking monkeys
but we’ll accept if it was simply a slur on the contributors here in the manner of Émile Borel and Arthur Eddington.
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dv said:SCIENCE said:
we will be after the pandemic ends
I better keep fucking monkeys so you can never leave
Nah please let the zoo keep the fucking monkeys
but we’ll accept if it was simply a slur on the contributors here in the manner of Émile Borel and Arthur Eddington.
No you see the implication is that while there is a pandemic you will remain and I wish you to remain and therefore I will perform actions that could be taken as increasing the spread of a pandemic ie the monkeypox virus.
dv said:
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dv said:
I better keep fucking monkeys so you can never leave
Nah please let the zoo keep the fucking monkeys
but we’ll accept if it was simply a slur on the contributors here in the manner of Émile Borel and Arthur Eddington.
No you see the implication is that while there is a pandemic you will remain and I wish you to remain and therefore I will perform actions that could be taken as increasing the spread of a pandemic ie the monkeypox virus.
oh well there’s still tuberculosis and malaria we suppose maybe we can peacefully go back to fighting the old traditional enemies
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separate discussion, here is your ABC getting all communist
superpandemic is progressing well, leading cause of death now for australia, potential reinfection times of one month common enough to rate a mention as concerning
won’t be long and covid will be seeding clouds and being praised as a possible answer to global warming
just need a nuclear war now, famine, global economic collapse, everything be all peachy
Social Media, Show Us How To Ensure There Is CoCirculation Of Multiple Regional Variants On Top Of An Already Pandemic Disaster
Soon It’ll Be Just Another ‘Flu’ ¡
or 100000 of them
well this looks exciting
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dv said:
What the hell happened now?
I went to the Ochre Medical Centre Creswick and asked for a vaccination and they said they only give vaccinations to their own patients.
The largess is over now, the money’s just not there to fight covid anymore I’m afraid.
well yous all say what you will about Labor being shit economic managers but they certainly know when to keep the cash flowing for friends and donors and when to stop it bleeding out into public benefits like pandemic control hell yeah
Australian retail giants Bunnings and Kmart are being investigated over their use of facial recognition technology in stores, amid privacy concerns.
SCIENCE said:
Australian retail giants Bunnings and Kmart are being investigated over their use of facial recognition technology in stores, amid privacy concerns.
They did put it at the bottom of an otherwise boring small notice by the door.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Australian retail giants Bunnings and Kmart are being investigated over their use of facial recognition technology in stores, amid privacy concerns.
They did put it at the bottom of an otherwise boring small notice by the door.
yeah we didn’t even notice or see any of it
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Australian retail giants Bunnings and Kmart are being investigated over their use of facial recognition technology in stores, amid privacy concerns.
They did put it at the bottom of an otherwise boring small notice by the door.
Easily thwarted.
swung to peak bullshit, appeal to peoples indifference, of which there is always plenty looking for something convenient to reside in
https://youtu.be/IslUDYBINOU
Victoria defies health advice over mask mandates | Coronavirus | 9 News Australia
transition said:
swung to peak bullshit, appeal to peoples indifference, of which there is always plenty looking for something convenient to reside inhttps://youtu.be/IslUDYBINOU
Victoria defies health advice over mask mandates | Coronavirus | 9 News Australia
worse thing about all the bullshit, what is unsaid, is you can be crook with covid for months, then reinfections and months more, potentially the way things are going it could result in many people having persistent infection, long-term persistent infection, and the way it (the virus-host relationship also) is evolving with the obscenely massive host base amplifying the evolution, things may turn out that large part of the population have low-level infection constantly
reinfections quite likely will weaken many people also, maiming and re-maiming
trouble with all that is it’s massively disruptive, obscene really
the obvious deaths is the smaller part of the massive stupid, unnecessary stupid, that found a home in a shared indifference
sibeen said:
transition said:
transition said:
swung to peak bullshit, appeal to peoples indifference, of which there is always plenty looking for something convenient to reside in
https://youtu.be/IslUDYBINOU
Victoria defies health advice over mask mandates | Coronavirus | 9 News Australiaworse thing about all the bullshit, what is unsaid, is you can be crook with covid for months, then reinfections and months more, potentially the way things are going it could result in many people having persistent infection, long-term persistent infection, and the way it (the virus-host relationship also) is evolving with the obscenely massive host base amplifying the evolution, things may turn out that large part of the population have low-level infection constantly
reinfections quite likely will weaken many people also, maiming and re-maiming
trouble with all that is it’s massively disruptive, obscene really
the obvious deaths is the smaller part of the massive stupid, unnecessary stupid, that found a home in a shared indifference
“So under those circumstances, you’d expect that there will be a reintroduction of mask mandates as the Chief Health Officer recommends,” he said.
Dr Phair said he suspected the Minister’s decision was political.
Well, Duh.
ZeroSurprised
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
mmmmmmmmmmm exponential or quadratic
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mmmmmmmmmmm exponential or quadratic
aaaaaaah wait doesn’t matter laugh out loud
A primary school class in England has been closed until the end of term, due to an outbreak of monkeypox in what appears to be a first in London. Early in July, Stockport Council announced that a case of Monkeypox was identified at Thorn Grove Primary School and contacted parents advising them that some children at the school should remain home until July 15.
disclaimer yes we know it’s a right wing rag but it’s put some information out there
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The dog is being consistent.
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
The dog is being consistent.
And reading the comments is depressing. Many attacking the dog for having the temerity to question Albo.
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
The dog is being consistent.
And reading the comments is depressing. Many attacking the dog for having the temerity to question Albo.
The greatest threat to freedom is the absence of criticism. -Wole Soyinka, playwright, poet, Nobel laureate (b. 13 Jul 1934)
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
sibeen said:The dog is being consistent.
And reading the comments is depressing. Many attacking the dog for having the temerity to question Albo.
The greatest threat to freedom is the absence of criticism. -Wole Soyinka, playwright, poet, Nobel laureate (b. 13 Jul 1934)
Yes, yes, we all heard you the first time.
SCIENCE said:
a lot will not change, the compassionate worldists are still worldists, religious that way, easy movement of people, money, media, seasonal workers, workers to fill in for sick locals, education, whatever, thou shalt not be inconvenienced or discouraged, bring some virus with you, keep the fire burning both ends, everywhere, and bring anything else, diversify the pathosphere so those manmade birds can stay flying
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
The dog is being consistent.
And reading the comments is depressing. Many attacking the dog for having the temerity to question Albo.
The greatest threat to freedom is the absence of criticism. -Wole Soyinka, playwright, poet, Nobel laureate (b. 13 Jul 1934)
see this is the thing about STEMocracy despite what Chris would have yous all think*
*: blindly believe
there is no place for concerning ourselves with the idiocy or failings of any individual figurehead or whatever, it legitimately becomes purely a matter of what ideas are more valid slash reliable slash useful
fuck it’s genius
Coalition signalled it would have reconsidered the deadline to axe the sick-pay safety net and free rapid antigen tests were it still in power amid a worsening winter wave.
roughbarked said:
But in general, our nose microbes help repel invaders, fighting them on a mucus battlefield.
The dust, microbes and allergens captured in your mucus eventually get ingested as that mucus drips down your throat. This is typically not an issue, but it can exacerbate environmental exposure to some contaminants.
For instance, lead – a neurotoxin prevalent in house dust and garden soils – enters children’s bodies most efficiently through ingestion and digestion. So, you may worsen particular environmental toxic exposures if you sniff or eat boogers up instead of blowing them out.
hey we have a fucking brilliant solution to all this for everyone
wear a mask it’s amazing
Should you book in your second COVID-19 booster? Here’s how Israel’s fourth dose changed the fight against Omicron
As most Australians were still receiving their third dose of the COVID-19 vaccine in early 2022, Israel had already started injecting its residents with a fourth jab.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-14/covid-19-vaccine-fouth-dose-dramatic-impact-in-israel/101226794
COVID-19 cases in WA hospitals surpass previous peak amid calls for new mask mandate
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-14/record-number-of-covid-cases-in-wa-hospitals-amid-mask-calls/101238624
This year, 2,141 aged care residents have died as a result of COVID-19, and as of yesterday, 819 aged care facilities were reporting outbreaks.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-14/antivirals-to-support-aged-care-as-defence-exits/101238730
sarahs mum said:
This year, 2,141 aged care residents have died as a result of COVID-19, and as of yesterday, 819 aged care facilities were reporting outbreaks.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-14/antivirals-to-support-aged-care-as-defence-exits/101238730
Another reason to look forward to aged care
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:
This year, 2,141 aged care residents have died as a result of COVID-19, and as of yesterday, 819 aged care facilities were reporting outbreaks.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-14/antivirals-to-support-aged-care-as-defence-exits/101238730
Another reason to look forward to aged care
well that one’s easy, just don’t provide any, and boom no COVID-19 deaths in aged care
sarahs mum said:
COVID-19 cases in WA hospitals surpass previous peak amid calls for new mask mandate
yeah but so what, it’s not the government’s job to make rules or laws or regulations or legislation wait
if you don’t like everyone else smearing virus over you then maybe you should take personal responsibility in 3 years to vote in a new bunch who might or might not have the guts to do something about it
Looks like my son has Covid, I wonder if I will get it a second time, immunity is supposedly around 4 weeks according to new information.
How variant are the new variants of the same strain enough to get it again I’m assuming
Cymek said:
Looks like my son has Covid, I wonder if I will get it a second time, immunity is supposedly around 4 weeks according to new information.
How variant are the new variants of the same strain enough to get it again I’m assuming
word on the street is that modern variants are so evasive that the same strain will play you time and again without varying much at all
always knew business owners were good at adding things up
Warrick Turner, who owns the Little Teacups cafe in Warragul, east of Melbourne, says while he knows mask mandates will help to reduce case numbers but will also affect his bottom line. “I do have customers that tell me that they only come out for essentials when they have to wear masks and so I do lose business,” he said.
Mr Turner said illness among staff had led to the business having to close for stretches of five to six days. He said if staff showed slight symptoms of illness he ensured they got tested and wore a mask to work.
laugh
out loud
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
Probably preparing us for bigger disappointments ahead.
maybe they’re preparing us for a gush of love when they then reinstate what everyone always wanted despite Corruption planning and they’ll look like the winning team
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has agreed to hold a snap meeting of national cabinet on Monday as pressure mounts for the federal government to reinstate the pandemic leave disaster payment amid surging COVID cases.
Federal government MP Mike Freelander said the payment should be restored and that people in his community will suffer without it.
et cetera
you see
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:
Health authorities urge government to extend free RAT test scheme for vulnerable Australians
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-12/government-urged-not-to-end-free-rat-scheme/101232642
The Federal Health Minister Mark Butler on Tuesday confirmed the program, which was introduced by the Morrison government in January, would not be extended beyond July arguing it is “about the right time” for it to end.
OK, this is a stupid, stupid decision.
¿ in what way ?
I’m sorry, on reflection I have changed my mind. Concession card holders, Low Income Health Care Card, and Seniors Card holders can go fuck themselves. Loosers.
No it was a genuine question, we had better pandemic control when free PCR testing was available before RATs, and driving around in our hydrocarbon-fuelled* vehicle there are still signs of free PCR testing everywhere. In what way is it a stupid stupid decision¿
*: a luxury
¿ any other questions ?
SCIENCE said:
> Health authorities urge government to extend free RAT test scheme for vulnerable Australians
¿ any other questions ?
Yeah.
Why are my wife and our bridesmaid both unable to understand the simple instructions on how to do a RAT test?
In two different ways.
mollwollfumble said:
SCIENCE said:
> Health authorities urge government to extend free RAT test scheme for vulnerable Australians
¿ any other questions ?
Yeah.
Why are my wife and our bridesmaid both unable to understand the simple instructions on how to do a RAT test?
In two different ways.
maybe they support doing PCR tests instead
Removing mask mandates
Removing free rat tests
Not being able to get a jab at any health centre (are you a patient with us)
These facts are all promoting Covid.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Politicians ignoring expert advice.
Removing mask mandates
Removing free rat tests
Not being able to get a jab at any health centre (are you a patient with us)These facts are all promoting Covid.
Laugh Out Loud
Who Needs Ketamine When You Can Get COVID-19 Brain Damage ¿¡
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:sibeen said:
I’m sorry, on reflection I have changed my mind. Concession card holders, Low Income Health Care Card, and Seniors Card holders can go fuck themselves. Loosers.
No it was a genuine question, we had better pandemic control when free PCR testing was available before RATs, and driving around in our hydrocarbon-fuelled* vehicle there are still signs of free PCR testing everywhere. In what way is it a stupid stupid decision¿
*: a luxury
¿ any other questions ?
my opinion is media’s full of shit, new variants driving that’s fucken nonsense
sorry to inject some reality, none of this is caused by a virus, it’s caused by arrogant detachment of the hosts promoting what amounts to unlimited wild covid – a superpandemic – part of a contagious worldist derrr
they should try saying it – humans have allowed and promoted a superpandemic
speak their stupid outloud, own it
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud
Who Needs Ketamine When You Can Get COVID-19 Brain Damage ¿¡
I went and did finds that
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/column-covid-brain-fog-is-real-and-with-everything-everywhere-happening-at-once-its-a-mercy/ar-AAZuwRc
it reminds me how beautiful the spaces are between everything, and I wandered if eventually the spaces might all be lost
https://www.9news.com.au/national/covid-19-ba4-ba5-omicron-subvariants-increase-hospitalisations-in-australia/d6bf92d7-650c-4bd9-9343-989fc0b9cf61
there are forces in the world that are truly evil, and I don’t mean the virus
transition said:
there are forces in the world that are truly evil, and I don’t mean the virus
well based on this
The number of Australians sick in hospital with COVID-19 is rising fast, while a survey has indicated a new willingness from people to accept higher coronavirus fatalities.
we know the kinds of people we should be following
analysis: Albanese needs to step up — and mask up — to help create new COVID-19 mindset
Anthony Albanese received his fourth COVID-19 jab this week, a commendable example to the community now that eligibility for the “winter shot” has been widened.
Well, commendable up to a point. Noticeably, neither Albanese nor the health worker wielding the needle was wearing a mask, and the Prime Minister quickly came in for some flak.
Masks are a front-line topic in the debate about how we deal with the new COVID-19 wave that is seeing an average of 45 deaths a day, taking deaths this year alone north of 8,000.
Earlier this week, Victoria’s acting Chief Health Officer recommended mandating masks in a number of settings, only to be rebuffed by the state’s Health Minister, Mary-Anne Thomas, who said it “was not the most effective way to get the message out about the importance of mask-wearing”.
more…
Tau.Neutrino said:
analysis: Albanese needs to step up — and mask up — to help create new COVID-19 mindsetAnthony Albanese received his fourth COVID-19 jab this week, a commendable example to the community now that eligibility for the “winter shot” has been widened.
Well, commendable up to a point. Noticeably, neither Albanese nor the health worker wielding the needle was wearing a mask, and the Prime Minister quickly came in for some flak.
Masks are a front-line topic in the debate about how we deal with the new COVID-19 wave that is seeing an average of 45 deaths a day, taking deaths this year alone north of 8,000.
Earlier this week, Victoria’s acting Chief Health Officer recommended mandating masks in a number of settings, only to be rebuffed by the state’s Health Minister, Mary-Anne Thomas, who said it “was not the most effective way to get the message out about the importance of mask-wearing”.
more…
thanks
meanwhile in that other glorious upstanding free democracy our motherland
good to see that dialogue these days is entirely dictated dominated by single salient issues and not an in depth coverage of all matters relevant or even any matters less-than-most-important to life
Not Only Is This Terrible Parent Abusing H’ Child By Forcing H’ To Wear A Mask, ‘e Is Brainwashing H’ Into Blind Worship Of Capitalism
SCIENCE said:
Not Only Is This Terrible Parent Abusing H’ Child By Forcing H’ To Wear A Mask, ‘e Is Brainwashing H’ Into Blind Worship Of Capitalism
SCIENCE said:
Not Only Is This Terrible Parent Abusing H’ Child By Forcing H’ To Wear A Mask, ‘e Is Brainwashing H’ Into Blind Worship Of Capitalism
Offer anyone free money and they’ll ask for more.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Not Only Is This Terrible Parent Abusing H’ Child By Forcing H’ To Wear A Mask, ‘e Is Brainwashing H’ Into Blind Worship Of Capitalism
Offer anyone free money and they’ll ask for more.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Not Only Is This Terrible Parent Abusing H’ Child By Forcing H’ To Wear A Mask, ‘e Is Brainwashing H’ Into Blind Worship Of Capitalism
Offer anyone free money and they’ll ask for more.
I have heard that it is the same with porridge.
Food glorious food.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Offer anyone free money and they’ll ask for more.
I have heard that it is the same with porridge.Food glorious food.
Don’t Worry, Raising The Interest Rate Should Fix This
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Not Only Is This Terrible Parent Abusing H’ Child By Forcing H’ To Wear A Mask, ‘e Is Brainwashing H’ Into Blind Worship Of Capitalism
Offer anyone free money and they’ll ask for more.
I have heard that it is the same with porridge.
Food glorious food.
In Communist China, 老子 Say*
授人以魚不如授人以漁
Give a child a mask and you save h’ for a day. Teach h’ face to face and you fuck h’ brain up for a lifetime.
*: The actual origin of this adage is disputed.
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
Not Only Is This Terrible Parent Abusing H’ Child By Forcing H’ To Wear A Mask, ‘e Is Brainwashing H’ Into Blind Worship Of Capitalism
Looks more like subsidised health care.
yeah being slightly more serious we wonder if she’s just setting up a protection racket and the extra money is used to pay “convince” the other kids
ABC News:
‘Ashes of at least 8,000 people murdered by Nazis found in Bialuty Forest north of Poland’s capital Warsaw
Polish investigators find 17 tonnes of human ashes in forest graves
Two mass graves containing the ashes of at least 8,000 Polish people murdered by the Nazis during World War II are discovered in a forest north of Warsaw.’
Would it be considered desecration if people who claim to be current-day Nazis were rounded up, transported to this forest, and had their noses forcibly rubbed in the ashes of the people who were murdered by Nazism?
Wrong thread. Again. sorry.
lol the acrobatics, the media pendulums, fk
The Acting Opposition Leader says pandemic leave payments ended by her government must be reinstated, as rising COVID-19 case numbers put pressure on the Prime Minister not to end financial supports.
SCIENCE said:
lol the acrobatics, the media pendulums, fkThe Acting Opposition Leader says pandemic leave payments ended by her government must be reinstated, as rising COVID-19 case numbers put pressure on the Prime Minister not to end financial supports.
Nice bit of acting there, lady.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
lol the acrobatics, the media pendulums, fkThe Acting Opposition Leader says pandemic leave payments ended by her government must be reinstated, as rising COVID-19 case numbers put pressure on the Prime Minister not to end financial supports.
Nice bit of acting there, lady.
She’s a ham.
SCIENCE said:
good to see that dialogue these days isentirely dictateddominated by single salient issues and not an in depth coverage of all matters relevant or even any matters less-than-most-important to life
certainly the stupid being cultivated there self-evidently points to why and how inflation came to be top of the list, the recursive stupid
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
there are forces in the world that are truly evil, and I don’t mean the virus
well based on this
The number of Australians sick in hospital with COVID-19 is rising fast, while a survey has indicated a new willingness from people to accept higher coronavirus fatalities.
we know the kinds of people we should be following
the dumb of contagious arrogant detachment, be the end of civilization i’d reckon
ABC News:
‘Anti-vaxxers are blaming COVID vaccines for a sharp fall in Germany’s birth rate. Is that correct?
RMIT ABC Fact Check
A sizeable drop in Germany’s birth rate in the first months of 2022 has prompted claims from anti-vaxxers that COVID-19 vaccines were to blame.’
Also: cakes fail to rise in ovens due to COVID vaccines. Increased incidence of black spot on rose bushes due to COVID vaccines. Boat at mooring in small harbour in Maine, USA, springs leak due to COVID vaccines.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Anti-vaxxers are blaming COVID vaccines for a sharp fall in Germany’s birth rate. Is that correct?
RMIT ABC Fact Check
A sizeable drop in Germany’s birth rate in the first months of 2022 has prompted claims from anti-vaxxers that COVID-19 vaccines were to blame.’Also: cakes fail to rise in ovens due to COVID vaccines. Increased incidence of black spot on rose bushes due to COVID vaccines. Boat at mooring in small harbour in Maine, USA, springs leak due to COVID vaccines.
Notably, there has been a complete lack of Jesus’ face appearing on slices of toast. No doubt clearly due to Covid.
Not setting a good standard here unfortunately, by either of them.
Spiny Norman said:
Not setting a good standard here unfortunately, by either of them.
Every time I get a jab they have gloves and a mask on.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Spiny Norman said:
Not setting a good standard here unfortunately, by either of them.
Every time I get a jab they have gloves and a mask on.
Yep. It’s really not difficult is it.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Spiny Norman said:
Not setting a good standard here unfortunately, by either of them.
Every time I get a jab they have gloves and a mask on.
Germs aren’t allowed in Canberra.
Spiny Norman said:
Not setting a good standard here unfortunately, by either of them.
How’s that?
Why isn’t Albo wearing a hi-vis and a hard hat?
How will people know that he’s PM?
dv said:
Spiny Norman said:
Not setting a good standard here unfortunately, by either of them.
How’s that?
Neither are wearing a mask.
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Spiny Norman said:
Not setting a good standard here unfortunately, by either of them.
Every time I get a jab they have gloves and a mask on.
Germs aren’t allowed in Canberra.
to be fair they may both have simply taken their masks off and held their breaths for the photograph
Spiny Norman said:
Not setting a good standard here unfortunately, by either of them.
crosseyed derr look inhale some worldism, share the compassionate darwinism, get and give a maiming or two, or more, it’s fucken christmas
Australian death rate appears to be unchanged for two months.
I am not sure whether this is “good” news but I suppose at least it didn’t blow up out of control.
dv said:
Australian death rate appears to be unchanged for two months.I am not sure whether this is “good” news but I suppose at least it didn’t blow up out of control.
did you use the words at least there to mean hasn’t yet
just checking
transition said:
dv said:
Australian death rate appears to be unchanged for two months.I am not sure whether this is “good” news but I suppose at least it didn’t blow up out of control.
did you use the words at least there to mean hasn’t yet
just checking
Well fair point
transition said:
dv said:
Australian death rate appears to be unchanged for two months.I am not sure whether this is “good” news but I suppose at least it didn’t blow up out of control.
did you use the words at least there to mean hasn’t yet
just checking
oh c’m‘on why the pessimism we all know that after the mass extinction we can enjoy a death rate of 0 and it will never climb again surely good news
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
dv said:
Australian death rate appears to be unchanged for two months.I am not sure whether this is “good” news but I suppose at least it didn’t blow up out of control.
did you use the words at least there to mean hasn’t yet
just checking
oh c’m‘on why the pessimism we all know that after the mass extinction we can enjoy a death rate of 0 and it will never climb again surely good news
I’s continues my informal study of brain tricks, the hoodoo of the wetware
to say at least to mean hasn’t yet and simultaneously displace hasn’t yet – to obliviate it – is an example of a brain trick
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
did you use the words at least there to mean hasn’t yet
just checking
oh c’m‘on why the pessimism we all know that after the mass extinction we can enjoy a death rate of 0 and it will never climb again surely good news
I’s continues my informal study of brain tricks, the hoodoo of the wetware
to say at least to mean hasn’t yet and simultaneously displace hasn’t yet – to obliviate it – is an example of a brain trick
ah well we figured it simply as an observation and no more no less
still it’s a bit like the 3 year drop in average life expectancy, nobody notices, nobody gives a shit
might be 5 years we haven’t actuaried it out
when in rome
FREEEEEEEE
DOOOOOOOOOOM
oh wait that’s exactly it, it’s a disaster and they’re not paying to stop any of it
ahahaha shit goin’ go down
remember where B.1.617.2 burst out from
genius
what’s the doubling time again, 3 days back in the early days wasn’t it, when’s that next meeting
was it 3 days away
oh wait
keep waiting
if you wait long enough it’ll peak and then since it’s coming down you won’t have to do anything all over again
20 Queenslanders died today.
Peak Warming Man said:
20 Queenslanders died today.
Damn that’s like 60 fewer than in normal years¡
SCIENCE said:
Peak Warming Man said:
20 Queenslanders died today.
Damn that’s like 60 fewer than in normal years¡
Many Bothans died to bring us this information.
Peak Warming Man said:
20 Queenslanders died today.
How many Queenslanders usually die per day?
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
20 Queenslanders died today.
How many Queenslanders usually die per day?
none they only die at night
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
20 Queenslanders died today.
How many Queenslanders usually die per day?
none they only die at night
But seriously something like 110
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
20 Queenslanders died today.
How many Queenslanders usually die per day?
none they only die at night
imagine, if excess deaths were an evolved generous way of seeing it, if anyone got that far even rather than absorbing it into typical death rate, and people were really developing a more accommodating concept of unnecessary deaths
imagine a slippery conscience getting around to seeing unnecessary deaths as necessary
I tells ya many people are evil
i pesme PWM is saying 20 covid deaths considering this is covid thread.
sarahs mum said:
i pesme PWM is saying 20 covid deaths considering this is covid thread.
presume.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
i pesme PWM is saying 20 covid deaths considering this is covid thread.presume.
So do I. But without knowing what the usual per day rate is, we don’t know if this represents excess deaths or not. I have no idea what the usual Winter deaths from respiratory illnesses is. The national figures for the first half of this year should be out before too much longer, in August I think they bring it up to 30th June. In the first quarter, if I remember rightly, deaths in general were higher than usual, but it was from deaths in cardio/diabetes/dementia, not from excess deaths in respiratory (where COVID deaths would be).
in breaking news, SARACAIDS-CoV appears to also cause coronary artery thrombosis, pancreatic failure, and cerebral atrophy
SCIENCE said:
in breaking news, SARACAIDS-CoV appears to also cause coronary artery thrombosis, pancreatic failure, and cerebral atrophy
You’re just full of good news, ain’t yer?
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
in breaking news, SARACAIDS-CoV appears to also cause coronary artery thrombosis, pancreatic failure, and cerebral atrophy
You’re just full of good news, ain’t yer?
Please Do Shoot Us, We’re Just The Messenger
Ribonucleic Acid Vaccines
but seriously, once we get through this little section of project, we’ll link everyone in to the fun references we’ve been reading about all those nice pleasant side effects that come with* natural immunity
*: for values of “with” approaching “without”, since as we(1,1,1) all know, the natural immunity period is now under 28 days
amusing
for the privileged
At hospital emergency, they kept asking if I have any covid symptoms.
What would they have done if I did have Covid? Let me bleed to death?
mollwollfumble said:
At hospital emergency, they kept asking if I have any covid symptoms.What would they have done if I did have Covid? Let me bleed to death?
They just would have tested then isolated you.
Arts said:
mollwollfumble said:
At hospital emergency, they kept asking if I have any covid symptoms.What would they have done if I did have Covid? Let me bleed to death?
They just would have tested then isolated you.
They did that anyway.
What do you mean by isolate in this context? Ambulance to another hospital? Two emergency departments within the same hospital?
Shouldn’t Covid be a lower triage category than emergency?
mollwollfumble said:
Arts said:
mollwollfumble said:
At hospital emergency, they kept asking if I have any covid symptoms.What would they have done if I did have Covid? Let me bleed to death?
They just would have tested then isolated you.
They did that anyway.
What do you mean by isolate in this context? Ambulance to another hospital? Two emergency departments within the same hospital?Shouldn’t Covid be a lower triage category than emergency?
How did they test with the blood in the way?
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
No it was a genuine question, we had better pandemic control when free PCR testing was available before RATs, and driving around in our hydrocarbon-fuelled* vehicle there are still signs of free PCR testing everywhere. In what way is it a stupid stupid decision¿
*: a luxury
¿ any other questions ?
my opinion is media’s full of shit, new variants driving that’s fucken nonsense
sorry to inject some reality, none of this is caused by a virus, it’s caused by arrogant detachment of the hosts promoting what amounts to unlimited wild covid – a superpandemic – part of a contagious worldist derrr
they should try saying it – humans have allowed and promoted a superpandemic
speak their stupid outloud, own it
so another revelation about the usefulness of RAT and what to use them for
¿ any other questions ?
SCIENCE said:
transition said:SCIENCE said:
¿ any other questions ?
my opinion is media’s full of shit, new variants driving that’s fucken nonsense
sorry to inject some reality, none of this is caused by a virus, it’s caused by arrogant detachment of the hosts promoting what amounts to unlimited wild covid – a superpandemic – part of a contagious worldist derrr
they should try saying it – humans have allowed and promoted a superpandemic
speak their stupid outloud, own it
so another revelation about the usefulness of RAT and what to use them for
¿ any other questions ?
after all the ‘education’, frankly it’s been nearer brainwashing, you might call sub-clinical more appropriately sub-derrr
medicine got hijacked re covid way back, the worldists decided they might fix the pandemic by making it a superpandemic, make it everywhere like the air you breathe, like the water a fish swims in, though doubt fish are that oblivious to variations of transparency of the water they swim in, the quality of it, doubt they start to ignore the water they swim in
but whatever fish do, they couldn’t ever get anything so wrong as a human, and groups of humans, you can be sure of that
wasn’t lost on me either that keeping pressure on hospitals with covid patients has the effect of incorporating hospitals and medicine into the program of pandemic covid, when the reality is hospitals and medicine are meant to be part of an apparatus to stop such a thing happening, and bring an end to it
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
my opinion is media’s full of shit, new variants driving that’s fucken nonsense
sorry to inject some reality, none of this is caused by a virus, it’s caused by arrogant detachment of the hosts promoting what amounts to unlimited wild covid – a superpandemic – part of a contagious worldist derrr
they should try saying it – humans have allowed and promoted a superpandemic
speak their stupid outloud, own it
so another revelation about the usefulness of RAT and what to use them for
¿ any other questions ?
after all the ‘education’, frankly it’s been nearer brainwashing, you might call sub-clinical more appropriately sub-derrr
medicine got hijacked re covid way back, the worldists decided they might fix the pandemic by making it a superpandemic, make it everywhere like the air you breathe, like the water a fish swims in, though doubt fish are that oblivious to variations of transparency of the water they swim in, the quality of it, doubt they start to ignore the water they swim in
but whatever fish do, they couldn’t ever get anything so wrong as a human, and groups of humans, you can be sure of that
wasn’t lost on me either that keeping pressure on hospitals with covid patients has the effect of incorporating hospitals and medicine into the program of pandemic covid, when the reality is hospitals and medicine are meant to be part of an apparatus to stop such a thing happening, and bring an end to it
here look where the Freedom RATs come in
IF not meeting people in close proximity or indoors THEN who cares, good
ELSE
IF asymptomatic THEN
IF rapid test negative THEN you may have asymptomatic predetection phase respiratory illness with fair chance of being COVID-19 so consider staying away
ELSE (rapid test positive) you have respiratory illness with very high chance of being COVID-19 so stay away
ELSE (symptomatic, so)
IF rapid test negative THEN still you have a respiratory illness with high chance of being COVID-19 so stay away
ELSE (rapid test positive) you have respiratory illness with very high chance of being COVID-19 so stay away
ENDIF
ENDIF
anyway, since clearly technical reasons are unconvincing to emotional people, here’s the kicker
¿ every RAT pack we’ve seen (and we’ve seen more than 0) has “MADE IN CHINA” on it, so every time we government bulk buy this shit, who stands to profit ?
¡ yeah that’s right, the dirty CHINA bastards who started it in the first place and are trying as hard as they can to keep it going to make as much money as they can !
(don’t worry, Pfizer and Moderna are Good Guys so getting Freedom Vaccines for Herd Immunity every 4 months is our glorious civil duty)
sorry we mean flock immunity the thing that has ended the pandemic every 3 months since 2022-04-01 remember that
BBC
woohyeah
LOL nice
we mean
LOL nice y-axis
oh well at least SARACAIDS-CoV doesn’t cause kidney failure*
*: oh wait doesn’t it (not the content of this post)
this so-called “expert” is spreading a theorem about Australian government conspiracy
ahahahahahahahahaha Laugh ahahahahahah Out hahahahahahaha Loud ahahahahahaha
at this we mean
totally
fun increases
ChrispenEvan said:
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/albanese-under-pressure-as-perrottet-leads-charge-to-reboot-pandemic-pay-20220715-p5b20o.html
Laugh Out Loud
aha
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/critics-slam-propagandists-withholding-b-c-pandemic-polling-data-1.5988696
A routine request to review government polls commissioned to gauge British Columbians’ thoughts on pandemic measures has resulted in renewed criticism of the BC NDP’s information-snuffing tactics. CTV News asked the Government Communications and Public Engagement (GCPE) agency for “all opinion polling and research conducted by the province on COVID-19, and/or the pandemic and/or public health measures” from Sept. 2, 2021 to May 2, 2022, and was instructed to file a freedom of information request; 423 of the 428 pages from that request were withheld. The response is the latest in a pattern of secrecy from the provincial government that Premier John Horgan claims is “the most transparent jurisdiction in North America.”
SCIENCE said:
fun increases
viral mean popular crosseyed derrr
a consistent message of cowardice and freedom to impose infection on the vulnerable
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
Probably preparing us for bigger disappointments ahead.
maybe they’re preparing us for a gush of love when they then reinstate what everyone always wanted despite Corruption planning and they’ll look like the winning team
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has agreed to hold a snap meeting of national cabinet on Monday as pressure mounts for the federal government to reinstate the pandemic leave disaster payment amid surging COVID cases.
Federal government MP Mike Freelander said the payment should be restored and that people in his community will suffer without it.
et cetera
you see
so
“We didn’t make the decision, the former government did in consultation with the states and territories,” he said.
“When the health circumstances change, we’ve responded.
“We’ve responded collectively — the Commonwealth with states and territories, and that is appropriate.”
¿ any other questions ?
Local cases.
nice
ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Nobody Could Have Known
SCIENCE said:
Nobody Could Have Known
I’m still wearing a mask when i got to the supermarket, Bunnings, etc. And using the sanitiser.
There’s more Qlders in hospital with COVID right now than at any previous time. Hospitals everywhere are stretched beyond their normal limits.
People can look at me funny for continuing to wear a mask, but i’ll be looking at them funny for not doing so when they’re in a hospital bed (if they’re lucky) and struggling to breathe.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Nobody Could Have Known
I’m still wearing a mask when i got to the supermarket, Bunnings, etc. And using the sanitiser.
There’s more Qlders in hospital with COVID right now than at any previous time. Hospitals everywhere are stretched beyond their normal limits.
People can look at me funny for continuing to wear a mask, but i’ll be looking at them funny for not doing so when they’re in a hospital bed (if they’re lucky) and struggling to breathe.
I asked my GP how he contracted covid. “did you get it from a patient?” He said “No, I went to Woolworths without my mask”.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Nobody Could Have Known
I’m still wearing a mask when i got to the supermarket, Bunnings, etc. And using the sanitiser.
There’s more Qlders in hospital with COVID right now than at any previous time. Hospitals everywhere are stretched beyond their normal limits.
People can look at me funny for continuing to wear a mask, but i’ll be looking at them funny for not doing so when they’re in a hospital bed (if they’re lucky) and struggling to breathe.
I am also still wearing a mask.
Finally Pandemic Uncontrol Success
They (Dirty CHINA) Might Be Able To Lock Humans In And Out At The Border
But They Can’t Lock These Birds Out, We’ll Get Them
SCIENCE said:
Finally Pandemic Uncontrol SuccessThey (Dirty CHINA) Might Be Able To Lock Humans In And Out At The Border
But They Can’t Lock These Birds Out, We’ll Get Them
That’s okay.
As long as you still get a nice, crunchy flying rat on a stick.
SCIENCE said:
Finally Pandemic Uncontrol SuccessThey (Dirty CHINA) Might Be Able To Lock Humans In And Out At The Border
But They Can’t Lock These Birds Out, We’ll Get Them
They’ll start spraying lakes with disinfectant now…
They were literally spraying the runways at international airports a while back. So lakes should be a doddle.
SCIENCE said:
Nobody Could Have Known
get some resilience into ya, reset that conscience, there is opportunity in disaster, join the church of worldism today
SCIENCE said:
Finally Pandemic Uncontrol SuccessThey (Dirty CHINA) Might Be Able To Lock Humans In And Out At The Border
But They Can’t Lock These Birds Out, We’ll Get Them
We don’t see their swans here.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Nobody Could Have Known
I’m still wearing a mask when i got to the supermarket, Bunnings, etc. And using the sanitiser.
There’s more Qlders in hospital with COVID right now than at any previous time. Hospitals everywhere are stretched beyond their normal limits.
People can look at me funny for continuing to wear a mask, but i’ll be looking at them funny for not doing so when they’re in a hospital bed (if they’re lucky) and struggling to breathe.
I am also still wearing a mask.
+1 and the hand sanitiser.
Over.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Finally Pandemic Uncontrol SuccessThey (Dirty CHINA) Might Be Able To Lock Humans In And Out At The Border
But They Can’t Lock These Birds Out, We’ll Get Them
We don’t see their swans here.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:I’m still wearing a mask when i got to the supermarket, Bunnings, etc. And using the sanitiser.
There’s more Qlders in hospital with COVID right now than at any previous time. Hospitals everywhere are stretched beyond their normal limits.
People can look at me funny for continuing to wear a mask, but i’ll be looking at them funny for not doing so when they’re in a hospital bed (if they’re lucky) and struggling to breathe.
I am also still wearing a mask.
+1 and the hand sanitiser.
Over.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Nobody Could Have Known
I’m still wearing a mask when i got to the supermarket, Bunnings, etc. And using the sanitiser.
There’s more Qlders in hospital with COVID right now than at any previous time. Hospitals everywhere are stretched beyond their normal limits.
People can look at me funny for continuing to wear a mask, but i’ll be looking at them funny for not doing so when they’re in a hospital bed (if they’re lucky) and struggling to breathe.
I asked my GP how he contracted covid. “did you get it from a patient?” He said “No, I went to Woolworths without my mask”.
I have a whole tub of doubt here for his ability to know where he may or may not have caught it….
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:I’m still wearing a mask when i got to the supermarket, Bunnings, etc. And using the sanitiser.
There’s more Qlders in hospital with COVID right now than at any previous time. Hospitals everywhere are stretched beyond their normal limits.
People can look at me funny for continuing to wear a mask, but i’ll be looking at them funny for not doing so when they’re in a hospital bed (if they’re lucky) and struggling to breathe.
I asked my GP how he contracted covid. “did you get it from a patient?” He said “No, I went to Woolworths without my mask”.
I have a whole tub of doubt here for his ability to know where he may or may not have caught it….
Probably the air, the air is to blame.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:I’m still wearing a mask when i got to the supermarket, Bunnings, etc. And using the sanitiser.
There’s more Qlders in hospital with COVID right now than at any previous time. Hospitals everywhere are stretched beyond their normal limits.
People can look at me funny for continuing to wear a mask, but i’ll be looking at them funny for not doing so when they’re in a hospital bed (if they’re lucky) and struggling to breathe.
I asked my GP how he contracted covid. “did you get it from a patient?” He said “No, I went to Woolworths without my mask”.
I have a whole tub of doubt here for his ability to know where he may or may not have caught it….
Yeah.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:I’m still wearing a mask when i got to the supermarket, Bunnings, etc. And using the sanitiser.
There’s more Qlders in hospital with COVID right now than at any previous time. Hospitals everywhere are stretched beyond their normal limits.
People can look at me funny for continuing to wear a mask, but i’ll be looking at them funny for not doing so when they’re in a hospital bed (if they’re lucky) and struggling to breathe.
I asked my GP how he contracted covid. “did you get it from a patient?” He said “No, I went to Woolworths without my mask”.
I have a whole tub of doubt here for his ability to know where he may or may not have caught it….
a metric tub or an imperial tub?
party_pants said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:I asked my GP how he contracted covid. “did you get it from a patient?” He said “No, I went to Woolworths without my mask”.
I have a whole tub of doubt here for his ability to know where he may or may not have caught it….
a metric tub or an imperial tub?
both
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/17/unexpected-changing-waves-covid-seasonal
As infections soar in the third major wave this year, experts say Covid may never settle into a seasonal cycle
Others have also been taken by surprise by this pattern. “It does look as if the successive waves are getting closer together,” Prof Peter Openshaw, an immunologist at Imperial College London, said. “They are actually becoming more frequent, with one piling in on top of the other.”
In the UK, there appears to be little enthusiasm for more active management of Covid, however. If we let nature follow its course, we will, according to Openshaw “reach some sort of equilibrium” with Covid. “But it may mean coexisting at a lower level of overall health.”
even agreement from us has its limits
oh imagine that
U.S. productivity dropped in the first quarter by the most since 1947 as the economy shrank, while labor costs surged and illustrated an extremely tight job market. Productivity, or nonfarm business employee output per hour, decreased at a 7.5% annual rate from the previous three months, according to Labor Department figures Thursday. That compared to a 6.3% gain in the fourth quarter and the 5.3% projected decline in a Bloomberg survey of economists.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-18/australia-covid-vaccine-surplus-options/101237430
an old one but a possible to edit one
infinite Xi variant wisdom
ABC News:
‘Queensland records fewer COVID-19 hospitalisations but demand on hospitals ‘keeps increasing’
By Baz Ruddick
Queensland records less hospitalisations of COVID-19 today but the pressure remains on health services with up to 7 per cent of health staff off sick, minister Yvette D’Ath says.’
Put your mask on, people.
Use the sanitiser.
Keep your distance.
Assume that everyone is infected.
SCIENCE said:
Completely Unexpected
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/17/unexpected-changing-waves-covid-seasonal
As infections soar in the third major wave this year, experts say Covid may never settle into a seasonal cycle
Others have also been taken by surprise by this pattern. “It does look as if the successive waves are getting closer together,” Prof Peter Openshaw, an immunologist at Imperial College London, said. “They are actually becoming more frequent, with one piling in on top of the other.”
In the UK, there appears to be little enthusiasm for more active management of Covid, however. If we let nature follow its course, we will, according to Openshaw “reach some sort of equilibrium” with Covid. “But it may mean coexisting at a lower level of overall health.”
….if we let nature follow its course…….
that’s not thinking, it’s a derrr
all keeps the worldists happy though, the program of disease internationalization
fucken disaster really, but they thrive on disasters, want to build a new world
hear the norman earlier saying immunologists maybe it was are puzzled by some unexpected things about behavior of the plague
I guess the extremely contagious beast that was let go because it’s too contagious to contain found a massive base of hosts to replicate and evolve in, and they’re totally surprised it didn’t devolve and fade into a milder problem
i’m sure there wasn’t a problem when the worldists promoted letting it go because it was too contagious contain
not some logic failing there
transition said:
hear the norman earlier saying immunologists maybe it was are puzzled by some unexpected things about behavior of the plagueI guess the extremely contagious beast that was let go because it’s too contagious to contain found a massive base of hosts to replicate and evolve in, and they’re totally surprised it didn’t devolve and fade into a milder problem
i’m sure there wasn’t a problem when the worldists promoted letting it go because it was too contagious contain
not some logic failing there
There was a massive (billions) base of ready hosts regardless of how Australia decided to deal with this virus and as the pandemic has progressed our global ability to contain it has diminished rapidly. You seem to be pining for a bucolic South Australian existence that never was.
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
hear the norman earlier saying immunologists maybe it was are puzzled by some unexpected things about behavior of the plague
I guess the extremely contagious beast that was let go because it’s too contagious to contain found a massive base of hosts to replicate and evolve in, and they’re totally surprised it didn’t devolve and fade into a milder problem
i’m sure there wasn’t a problem when the worldists promoted letting it go because it was too contagious contain
not some logic failing there
There was a massive (billions) base of ready hosts regardless of how Australia decided to deal with this virus and as the pandemic has progressed our global ability to contain it has diminished rapidly. You seem to be pining for a bucolic South Australian existence that never was.
don’t worry in 3 weeks there will still be a massive (thousands of millions) base of ready hosts
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
hear the norman earlier saying immunologists maybe it was are puzzled by some unexpected things about behavior of the plagueI guess the extremely contagious beast that was let go because it’s too contagious to contain found a massive base of hosts to replicate and evolve in, and they’re totally surprised it didn’t devolve and fade into a milder problem
i’m sure there wasn’t a problem when the worldists promoted letting it go because it was too contagious contain
not some logic failing there
There was a massive (billions) base of ready hosts regardless of how Australia decided to deal with this virus and as the pandemic has progressed our global ability to contain it has diminished rapidly. You seem to be pining for a bucolic South Australian existence that never was.
you’re a mind reader, witty
i’ll pass on being party to whatever it was you did in our as you used the word
like obviously hospital-acquired infections has pretty much always been a thing but
hey at least pretty much nobody goes to the fire station to have their house fire put out
German government subsidizes the use of air purification units in schools and day care centers
Starting immediately, schools and day care centers can ask the German government to subsidize up to 80 percent of the costs of installing the Vitovent 200-P | Upon request, the Viessmann FörderProfi (Subsidy Pro) service will handle the application process | 99.99 percent of all viruses are removed from the ambient air | 1st place in readers’ choice on expert portal haustec.de
more…
Tau.Neutrino said:
German government subsidizes the use of air purification units in schools and day care centers
Starting immediately, schools and day care centers can ask the German government to subsidize up to 80 percent of the costs of installing the Vitovent 200-P | Upon request, the Viessmann FörderProfi (Subsidy Pro) service will handle the application process | 99.99 percent of all viruses are removed from the ambient air | 1st place in readers’ choice on expert portal haustec.de
more…
so they’re copying Chairman Dan The Communist what is West Germany coming to
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
hear the norman earlier saying immunologists maybe it was are puzzled by some unexpected things about behavior of the plagueI guess the extremely contagious beast that was let go because it’s too contagious to contain found a massive base of hosts to replicate and evolve in, and they’re totally surprised it didn’t devolve and fade into a milder problem
i’m sure there wasn’t a problem when the worldists promoted letting it go because it was too contagious contain
not some logic failing there
There was a massive (billions) base of ready hosts regardless of how Australia decided to deal with this virus and as the pandemic has progressed our global ability to contain it has diminished rapidly. You seem to be pining for a bucolic South Australian existence that never was.
you’re a mind reader, witty
i’ll pass on being party to whatever it was you did in our as you used the word
Better an inclusive our than an accusatory they.
While COVID vaccines have saved millions of lives globally by reducing the overall severity of the disease, nearly one in ten of those recovered are still ending up with ongoing symptoms after the initial illness has passed.
more…
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
There was a massive (billions) base of ready hosts regardless of how Australia decided to deal with this virus and as the pandemic has progressed our global ability to contain it has diminished rapidly. You seem to be pining for a bucolic South Australian existence that never was.
you’re a mind reader, witty
i’ll pass on being party to whatever it was you did in our as you used the word
Better an inclusive our than an accusatory they.
or better correctness than bullshit we say
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:There was a massive (billions) base of ready hosts regardless of how Australia decided to deal with this virus and as the pandemic has progressed our global ability to contain it has diminished rapidly. You seem to be pining for a bucolic South Australian existence that never was.
you’re a mind reader, witty
i’ll pass on being party to whatever it was you did in our as you used the word
Better an inclusive our than an accusatory they.
I could indulge you for a moment
I think I went further than accusatory, certainty the sentiment went further, though I do like the word accusatory
I certainly don’t feign innocence, diminished responsibility with dubious inclusive conceptions, hoped-for arrogant gradualism that way, all the presumption that probably involves
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:you’re a mind reader, witty
i’ll pass on being party to whatever it was you did in our as you used the word
Better an inclusive our than an accusatory they.
I could indulge you for a moment
I think I went further than accusatory, certainty the sentiment went further, though I do like the word accusatory
I certainly don’t feign innocence, diminished responsibility with dubious inclusive conceptions, hoped-for arrogant gradualism that way, all the presumption that probably involves
As usual you’re as clear as mud and pointedly ignoring the crux of your use of ‘massive’.
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Better an inclusive our than an accusatory they.
I could indulge you for a moment
I think I went further than accusatory, certainty the sentiment went further, though I do like the word accusatory
I certainly don’t feign innocence, diminished responsibility with dubious inclusive conceptions, hoped-for arrogant gradualism that way, all the presumption that probably involves
As usual you’re as clear as mud and pointedly ignoring the crux of your use of ‘massive’.
oh you were interested in the details of what I said, how lovely of you to come back around to it
like I said, there’s a problem letting something go because it is too contagious to contain
that was the core of what I wrote
Tau.Neutrino said:
German government subsidizes the use of air purification units in schools and day care centersStarting immediately, schools and day care centers can ask the German government to subsidize up to 80 percent of the costs of installing the Vitovent 200-P | Upon request, the Viessmann FörderProfi (Subsidy Pro) service will handle the application process | 99.99 percent of all viruses are removed from the ambient air | 1st place in readers’ choice on expert portal haustec.de
more…
We also need air filtration systems in
Emergency waiting rooms
Emergency wards
General hospital wards.
Health clinics
transition said:
there’s a problem letting something go because it is too contagious to contain
fuck don’t yous all know, civilisation was built on giving up when anything looked difficult
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:I could indulge you for a moment
I think I went further than accusatory, certainty the sentiment went further, though I do like the word accusatory
I certainly don’t feign innocence, diminished responsibility with dubious inclusive conceptions, hoped-for arrogant gradualism that way, all the presumption that probably involves
As usual you’re as clear as mud and pointedly ignoring the crux of your use of ‘massive’.
oh you were interested in the details of what I said, how lovely of you to come back around to it
like I said, there’s a problem letting something go because it is too contagious to contain
that was the core of what I wrote
Who exactly let it go over half the global population?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
German government subsidizes the use of air purification units in schools and day care centers
Starting immediately, schools and day care centers can ask the German government to subsidize up to 80 percent of the costs of installing the Vitovent 200-P | Upon request, the Viessmann FörderProfi (Subsidy Pro) service will handle the application process | 99.99 percent of all viruses are removed from the ambient air | 1st place in readers’ choice on expert portal haustec.de
more…
We also need air filtration systems in
Emergency waiting rooms
Emergency wards
General hospital wards.
Health clinics
imagine if such things existed in individualised 20 g self-contained portable hands-free form that patients / visitors / staff could bring along with them
Witty Rejoinder said:
Who exactly let it go over half the global population?
CHINA
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:As usual you’re as clear as mud and pointedly ignoring the crux of your use of ‘massive’.
oh you were interested in the details of what I said, how lovely of you to come back around to it
like I said, there’s a problem letting something go because it is too contagious to contain
that was the core of what I wrote
Who exactly let it go over half the global population?
answer your own question maybe, could be quite an effort perhaps, given you may be trying not to answer it
but try, give it a go
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:oh you were interested in the details of what I said, how lovely of you to come back around to it
like I said, there’s a problem letting something go because it is too contagious to contain
that was the core of what I wrote
Who exactly let it go over half the global population?
answer your own question maybe, could be quite an effort perhaps, given you may be trying not to answer it
but try, give it a go
Oh the nameless globalist endemnicists?
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
who needs masks anyway
Queensland’s COVID wave ‘going to get worse’ with more than 2,000 health workers off sick
Laugh Out Loud
Why LOL Sc?
well if we don’t laugh we’ll cry, that kind of thing
just at the idiocy of this too, do nothing to reduce transmission, in fact encourage it, and then tell everyone that it was inevitable, necessary, unavoidable, nothing we could do, nobody could have predicted
Nobody Could Have Known
LOL Fuck Nobody Could Have Predicted Or Known
Wait¡
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Who exactly let it go over half the global population?
answer your own question maybe, could be quite an effort perhaps, given you may be trying not to answer it
but try, give it a go
Oh the nameless globalist endemnicists?
you’re right nobody was pushing to claim it would be mild-endemic-normal at all it just happened by itself
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Who exactly let it go over half the global population?
answer your own question maybe, could be quite an effort perhaps, given you may be trying not to answer it
but try, give it a go
Oh the nameless globalist endemnicists?
is that you answering your own question
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:answer your own question maybe, could be quite an effort perhaps, given you may be trying not to answer it
but try, give it a go
Oh the nameless globalist endemnicists?
is that you answering your own question
That’s your answer for everything.
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Oh the nameless globalist endemnicists?
is that you answering your own question
That’s your answer for everything.
is it, you seem to know better than me, good for you, witty the mind reader
you’ve said everything there too, dumb generalization makes whatever else you’re saying wrong, but don’t let that stop you
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:is that you answering your own question
That’s your answer for everything.
is it, you seem to know better than me, good for you, witty the mind reader
you’ve said everything there too, dumb generalization makes whatever else you’re saying wrong, but don’t let that stop you
Hah. You bring bullshit to the table and when questioned you can only quibble over words. Carry on there and while your blood’s up ring the shrink and up your antipsychotics because they’re not working.
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
That’s your answer for everything.
is it, you seem to know better than me, good for you, witty the mind reader
you’ve said everything there too, dumb generalization makes whatever else you’re saying wrong, but don’t let that stop you
Hah. You bring bullshit to the table and when questioned you can only quibble over words. Carry on there and while your blood’s up ring the shrink and up your antipsychotics because they’re not working.
That’s it¡ Why didn’t we think of that earlier¿ Just win* the argument by using personal attacks¡ It’s obvious¡
*: for certain values of win
SCIENCE said:
Laugh
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-18/victorian-virtual-eds-to-double-due-to-covid-flu/101246526
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-18/record-number-of-patients-in-sa-hospitals-with-covid19/101247594Out
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-18/wa-government-refuses-to-extend-mask-mandate/101245778
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-18/qld-coronavirus-covid19-masks-schools-classroom/101245586Loud
it was even funnier in the correct thread
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:That’s your answer for everything.
is it, you seem to know better than me, good for you, witty the mind reader
you’ve said everything there too, dumb generalization makes whatever else you’re saying wrong, but don’t let that stop you
Hah. You bring bullshit to the table and when questioned you can only quibble over words. Carry on there and while your blood’s up ring the shrink and up your antipsychotics because they’re not working.
divert from your hostile generalization, it’s unignorable, blatant
i’ll say it again, the point, the core of what I said, was about letting something go because it’s too contagious to contain, the logic fail in that
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:is it, you seem to know better than me, good for you, witty the mind reader
you’ve said everything there too, dumb generalization makes whatever else you’re saying wrong, but don’t let that stop you
Hah. You bring bullshit to the table and when questioned you can only quibble over words. Carry on there and while your blood’s up ring the shrink and up your antipsychotics because they’re not working.
divert from your hostile generalization, it’s unignorable, blatant
i’ll say it again, the point, the core of what I said, was about letting something go because it’s too contagious to contain, the logic fail in that
It was doing its thing a year before the the first vaccines were used in 4 billion people with increasing degrees of virulence. Does another 4 billion really make that much difference?
The satire and mocking of COVID is getting a bit boring.
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Hah. You bring bullshit to the table and when questioned you can only quibble over words. Carry on there and while your blood’s up ring the shrink and up your antipsychotics because they’re not working.
divert from your hostile generalization, it’s unignorable, blatant
i’ll say it again, the point, the core of what I said, was about letting something go because it’s too contagious to contain, the logic fail in that
It was doing its thing a year before the the first vaccines were used in 4 billion people with increasing degrees of virulence. Does another 4 billion really make that much difference?
yeah it’s delusional perhaps to think more, many many more makes any difference, makes no difference
two million, four billion, it’s all the same
is that it, the foundations of your philosophy, that if everything converges on sameness, and more sameness makes things more normal and right, quite a derrr really, passes for thought I guess your end
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:divert from your hostile generalization, it’s unignorable, blatant
i’ll say it again, the point, the core of what I said, was about letting something go because it’s too contagious to contain, the logic fail in that
It was doing its thing a year before the the first vaccines were used in 4 billion people with increasing degrees of virulence. Does another 4 billion really make that much difference?
yeah it’s delusional perhaps to think more, many many more makes any difference, makes no difference
two million, four billion, it’s all the same
is that it, the foundations of your philosophy, that if everything converges on sameness, and more sameness makes things more normal and right, quite a derrr really, passes for thought I guess your end
No simply that you profess to care globally for the fate of billions who your contend are forced to live with this virus when in actuality you only care about your personal fate in rural SA where you neither had to deal with loss of employment or restrictions on travel. If you can’t see how disingenuous this is there is no helping you.
Witty Rejoinder said:
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Witty Rejoinder said:It was doing its thing a year before the the first vaccines were used in 4 billion people with increasing degrees of virulence. Does another 4 billion really make that much difference?
yeah it’s delusional perhaps to think more, many many more makes any difference, makes no difference
two million, four billion, it’s all the same
is that it, the foundations of your philosophy, that if everything converges on sameness, and more sameness makes things more normal and right, quite a derrr really, passes for thought I guess your end
No simply that you profess to care globally for the fate of billions who your contend are forced to live with this virus when in actuality you only care about your personal fate in rural SA where you neither had to deal with loss of employment or restrictions on travel. If you can’t see how disingenuous this is there is no helping you.
yeah yeah done four and half months with the plague, and just retired in large part because it slowed me down
and have had serious restriction on travel and who dare visit, and who’d let me visit, plenty distortion
you’re so fucken wrong it’s a waste of time talking to you, persistent though i’ll give you that
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Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:yeah it’s delusional perhaps to think more, many many more makes any difference, makes no difference
two million, four billion, it’s all the same
is that it, the foundations of your philosophy, that if everything converges on sameness, and more sameness makes things more normal and right, quite a derrr really, passes for thought I guess your end
No simply that you profess to care globally for the fate of billions who your contend are forced to live with this virus when in actuality you only care about your personal fate in rural SA where you neither had to deal with loss of employment or restrictions on travel. If you can’t see how disingenuous this is there is no helping you.
yeah yeah done four and half months with the plague, and just retired in large part because it slowed me down
and have had serious restriction on travel and who dare visit, and who’d let me visit, plenty distortion
you’re so fucken wrong it’s a waste of time talking to you, persistent though i’ll give you that
Don’t let the globalist endemnicists get you down!
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Witty Rejoinder said:
transition said:
yeah it’s delusional perhaps to think more, many many more makes any difference, makes no difference
two million, four billion, it’s all the same
is that it, the foundations of your philosophy, that if everything converges on sameness, and more sameness makes things more normal and right, quite a derrr really, passes for thought I guess your end
No simply that you profess to care globally for the fate of billions who your contend are forced to live with this virus when in actuality you only care about your personal fate in rural SA where you neither had to deal with loss of employment or restrictions on travel. If you can’t see how disingenuous this is there is no helping you.
yeah yeah done four and half months with the plague, and just retired in large part because it slowed me down
and have had serious restriction on travel and who dare visit, and who’d let me visit, plenty distortion
you’re so fucken wrong it’s a waste of time talking to you, persistent though i’ll give you that
on c’m‘on mate you’re not the only one who’s suffering just because of your poor health and the dickheads trying to spread disease around
think of all the arseholes who care only about the impacts on a few safety measures on their income and ability to travel without a care in the world for others who might be suffering poor health
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think of all the arseholes who care only about the impacts on a few safety measures on their income and ability to travel without a care in the world for others who might be suffering poor health
well this might get exciting
https://insightplus.mja.com.au/2022/27/ama-victoria-to-call-for-royal-commission-into-ahpra/
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well this might get excitinghttps://insightplus.mja.com.au/2022/27/ama-victoria-to-call-for-royal-commission-into-ahpra/
Victorian AMA. Meh.
Now, get the Vic Pharmacy Guild onto it, and it’ll have some political clout.
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oh imagine that
U.S. productivity dropped in the first quarter by the most since 1947 as the economy shrank, while labor costs surged and illustrated an extremely tight job market. Productivity, or nonfarm business employee output per hour, decreased at a 7.5% annual rate from the previous three months, according to Labor Department figures Thursday. That compared to a 6.3% gain in the fourth quarter and the 5.3% projected decline in a Bloomberg survey of economists.
LOL
Fuck CHINA And Their Fucking Cover Ups And Dodgy Reporting
oh wait 2169 is still less than 2200 what a useless so-called “expert” yet again
remember how they all told you that artificial intelligence would never take over from humans because the former were too rigid
don’t worry it’s still a race to the bottom
We have had emails from 2 companies today (1 supplier, 1 customer), advising they are going into a voluntary Covid control phase. No public access to their office; please revert to email or phone to place orders etc. Warehouse is still open for goods in and out but on a restricted basis with social distancing and mask mandates etc..
We are thinking of doing the same ourselves, but have not committed yet.
Huge new spike in Covid deaths in Canada.
But I suspect that that’s a fault in the data, because case numbers in Canada have not gone through the roof.
Lets try wordometer. Yeah, that’s a data fault in Ourworldindata.
This latest new wave in Australia is getting deadlier. Up from a 0.1% death rate in late May to a 0.15% death rate now.
so apparently the tone is shifting
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/07/ba5-covid-subvariants-forever/670514/
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so apparently the tone is shiftinghttps://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/07/ba5-covid-subvariants-forever/670514/
reading that
is there an emergent problem with the group-scale-host relationship with pathogens, such that might incline a convergent pathosphere across the world, in all parts, everywhere
did the plague of humans inadvertently create other plagues, unstoppable plagues
did the loss of spaces between so much render all that might be bad then connected
do we interconnect everything then discover the species is a vehicle for horrors
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Bloody Dan Andrews.
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Maybe he should join The Institute of Public Affairs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn5adebL-Co&t=1s&ab_channel=InstituteofPublicAffairs
oops
fucking hell how do geniuses not predict this
consider a replicator that is given plenty of opportunity to replicate
with selection pressure applied in the form of isolation for a few days
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for some context it’s not quite as someone might extract from the words in those two images above
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZF-WR9RDik
EXPLAINED: Why Experts Are Imploring Students To Wear Masks As Covid Cases Rise In Australia
the bigger picture though is the situation is worse than the show indicates
basically no masks lends to not knowing for sure, or not knowing at all where a person might have contracted covid (making it more unavoidable), effectively diluting personal responsibility and group responsibility for transmission, infection, and consequences, which has a natural tendency to expand diminished responsibility and expand transmission numbers – together – the former actually causes the latter
there’s much talk of personal responsibility, or individual responsibility, but doubtful there’s any science to support that increases or is likely to increase in the case of dropping masks
libertarian culture has a fluid and adaptive appreciation of environments that diminish responsibility, it’s an interesting space when you analyze it some, have a little peek under the surface, not a little bit darwinian I might add, plenty ‘creative’ apprehension of truth also
“Elective surgery makes it sound like it’s flippant, the reality is most elective surgery is essential,” Dr Moy said.
“We are talking about a tsunami of people that have had delayed care that really need it now.
“This is a real unseen tragedy that’s occurred during the pandemic, which doesn’t get counted in the numbers.
…
yet
In April this year, Victoria allocated $1.5 billion towards blitzing elective surgery wait times.
But last week Victoria announced it would join states including Queensland in suspending elective surgery, as hospitals struggled with staff shortages and an increase in patients.
“People think about the number of COVID deaths, but we really should be considering the number of deaths from delayed care such as delayed elective surgery, and also increased suffering caused by it as well,” Dr Moy said.
…
oh c’m‘on you all know that if they die then they won’t need it any more and that’s good
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In April this year, Victoria allocated $1.5 billion towards blitzing elective surgery wait times.But last week Victoria announced it would join states including Queensland in suspending elective surgery, as hospitals struggled with staff shortages and an increase in patients.
“People think about the number of COVID deaths, but we really should be considering the number of deaths from delayed care such as delayed elective surgery, and also increased suffering caused by it as well,” Dr Moy said.
…
oh c’m‘on you all know that if they die then they won’t need it any more and that’s good
I think the doctors concerned will know when elective becomes vital and act accordingly.
Pig Farmer Will Save Us ¡
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Pig Farmer Will Save Us ¡
should be a good market, expanding market, such an abundant virus since it was liberated to do the good work, covid the liberationist, it’s got special anti-tyranny properties when released to be wild, it’s got wildness, it’s nature
Gilead Sciences
Laugh Out Loud Check Out This So-Called-“Expert” Minimiser
oh oops
and then you have the communists
fuck’em’cause next they’ll be insisting on minimum wage rises in line with inflation or something stupid like that
nah obviously there’s a end of year heart disease / cancer / accidents burst
disclaimer actually there’s a high SARACAIDS-CoV death plateau into the end of the year so actually it’s fair for that fella to say not sure
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captain_spalding said:
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in breaking news, SARACAIDS-CoV appears to also cause coronary artery thrombosis, pancreatic failure, and cerebral atrophy
You’re just full of good news, ain’t yer?
Please Do Shoot Us, We’re Just The Messenger
Ribonucleic Acid Vaccinesbut seriously, once we get through this little section of project, we’ll link everyone in to the fun references we’ve been reading about all those nice pleasant side effects that come with* natural immunity
*: for values of “with” approaching “without”, since as we(1,1,1) all know, the natural immunity period is now under 28 days
here’s an instalment and there’s plenty of others to come
https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1004052
In this study, we found that CVD was increased early after COVID-19 mainly from pulmonary embolism, atrial arrhythmias, and venous thromboses. DM incidence remained elevated for at least 12 weeks following COVID-19 before declining. People without preexisting CVD or DM who suffer from COVID-19 do not appear to have a long-term increase in incidence of these conditions.
there’s a tiny bit of possible forgiveness where they say returned to baseline levels or below but that seems fairly noncommittal
apparently this is an “if” now imagine that
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Pig Farmer Will Save Us ¡
should be a good market, expanding market
more breaking news
https://news.3m.com/2022-02-24-3M-scientists-This-Corsi-Rosenthal-box-movement-is-legit
a hospital full of so-called “experts” who are obviously just lying to us
wait oh right it’s just a plug for more ratings and money money money
we mean those healthcare workers fuckers are getting more business than ever and they still want more flow, what ungrateful bastards
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Laugh Out Loud Check Out This So-Called-“Expert” Minimiser
oh oops
the unmasking of the superpandemicists
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a hospital full of so-called “experts” who are obviously just lying to us
wait oh right it’s just a plug for more ratings and money money money
we mean those
healthcare workersfuckers are getting more business than ever and they still want more flow, what ungrateful bastards
sorry we were wrong apparently patients isn’t profit
oh we’re not the USSA and our healthcare is actually socialised WTF eh
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sorry we were wrong apparently patients isn’t profit
our healthcare is actually socialised WTF eh
Laugh Out Loud
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wouldn’t like travelers to be inconvenienced by there being no plague at their intended destination, similar applies the corruptions of money, really inconvenient if there’s less of that where it might like to go, and same applies the worldists, they of course want worldism everywhere, and if just one small pocket or even an idea contrary existed anywhere the job wouldn’t be complete
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wouldn’t like travelers to be inconvenienced by there being no plague at their intended destination, similar applies the corruptions of money, really inconvenient if there’s less of that where it might like to go, and same applies the worldists, they of course want worldism everywhere, and if just one small pocket or even an idea contrary existed anywhere the job wouldn’t be complete
prolific random plague really, hide a lot with that, possibly entirely immerse and lose your conscience
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/third-of-victorias-2022-covid-19-deaths-unvaccinated/101253540
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/third-of-victorias-2022-covid-19-deaths-unvaccinated/101253540
“There will be some people who were too frail or unwell to be vaccinated, who — unfortunately — were also at more risk of dying from COVID,” she said.
From that piece. This is important, so you don’t demonize all people who die from COVID who are not vaccinated. Last time I looked at the death stats for Australia for Jan/Feb/March of this year, the highest deaths were not from respiratory diseases, they were from dementia, diabetes and cancer (I think, I’d have to reread to be sure). So cancer patients may well not be vaccinated if they are in therapy that already stresses the body out badly. And particularly if they are elderly, and the median age for deaths in Victoria from COVID was 85 years according to that piece. So if you want to be harsh about it, 85 is actually beyond the life expectancy for that cohort of people, I think.
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/life-tables/2018-2020
buffy said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/third-of-victorias-2022-covid-19-deaths-unvaccinated/101253540
“There will be some people who were too frail or unwell to be vaccinated, who — unfortunately — were also at more risk of dying from COVID,” she said.
From that piece. This is important, so you don’t demonize all people who die from COVID who are not vaccinated. Last time I looked at the death stats for Australia for Jan/Feb/March of this year, the highest deaths were not from respiratory diseases, they were from dementia, diabetes and cancer (I think, I’d have to reread to be sure). So cancer patients may well not be vaccinated if they are in therapy that already stresses the body out badly. And particularly if they are elderly, and the median age for deaths in Victoria from COVID was 85 years according to that piece. So if you want to be harsh about it, 85 is actually beyond the life expectancy for that cohort of people, I think.
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/life-tables/2018-2020
ok, makes sense.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/third-of-victorias-2022-covid-19-deaths-unvaccinated/101253540
“There will be some people who were too frail or unwell to be vaccinated, who — unfortunately — were also at more risk of dying from COVID,” she said.
From that piece. This is important, so you don’t demonize all people who die from COVID who are not vaccinated. Last time I looked at the death stats for Australia for Jan/Feb/March of this year, the highest deaths were not from respiratory diseases, they were from dementia, diabetes and cancer (I think, I’d have to reread to be sure). So cancer patients may well not be vaccinated if they are in therapy that already stresses the body out badly. And particularly if they are elderly, and the median age for deaths in Victoria from COVID was 85 years according to that piece. So if you want to be harsh about it, 85 is actually beyond the life expectancy for that cohort of people, I think.
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/life-tables/2018-2020
Even better, have a look at table 8.1 here:
https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/life-expectancy-death/deaths-in-australia/contents/life-expectancy
buffy said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/third-of-victorias-2022-covid-19-deaths-unvaccinated/101253540
“There will be some people who were too frail or unwell to be vaccinated, who — unfortunately — were also at more risk of dying from COVID,” she said.
From that piece. This is important, so you don’t demonize all people who die from COVID who are not vaccinated. Last time I looked at the death stats for Australia for Jan/Feb/March of this year, the highest deaths were not from respiratory diseases, they were from dementia, diabetes and cancer (I think, I’d have to reread to be sure). So cancer patients may well not be vaccinated if they are in therapy that already stresses the body out badly. And particularly if they are elderly, and the median age for deaths in Victoria from COVID was 85 years according to that piece. So if you want to be harsh about it, 85 is actually beyond the life expectancy for that cohort of people, I think.
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/life-tables/2018-2020
careful what you absorb from the masters of the superpandemic, notable it seems to have inspired rightful ‘demonization’ of some people, legitimized demonization, I guess that’s demonization looking for something to focus on
a further trouble is the incitement of demonization – hostility – is a horridly imprecise beast
more pointing the bone, a spear or whatever, dipped in covid, or whatever really, could be monkeypox next year, whatever it’s a nasty hoodoo
shrug what’s a few more deaths anyway remember the median age is in the middle so if you kill off a few more useless oldies then guess what happens to the median and that’s a good thing because then you can find more people above median age to kill
It’s Genius¡
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shrug what’s a few more deaths anyway remember the median age is in the middle so if you kill off a few more useless oldies then guess what happens to the median and that’s a good thing because then you can find more people above median age to killIt’s Genius¡
yeah it’s a nasty a hoodoo, very nasty, aggressive, takes up residence in those of limited conscience
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shrug what’s a few more deaths anyway remember the median age is in the middle so if you kill off a few more useless oldies then guess what happens to the median and that’s a good thing because then you can find more people above median age to killIt’s Genius¡
Yeah but you have to remember that no life will exist once all the baryons decay some 10^80 years from now.
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Spiny Norman said:
Australia is South Taiwan ?
what’s also kind of funny is that like the word “selfie” common usage of the memetic idea can be traced back to early COVID-19 threads on Forum so congratulations team
dv said:
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shrug what’s a few more deaths anyway remember the median age is in the middle so if you kill off a few more useless oldies then guess what happens to the median and that’s a good thing because then you can find more people above median age to kill
It’s Genius¡
Yeah but you have to remember that no life will exist once all the baryons decay some 10^80 years from now.
exactly, who cares about an increase in heat death expectancy of less than 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% time to drink that paraquat now
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Cymek said:
Spiny Norman said:
Australia is South Taiwan ?
what’s also kind of funny is that like the word “selfie” common usage of the memetic idea can be traced back to early COVID-19 threads on Forum so congratulations team
I think you had first dibs at West Taiwan.
Biosecurity efforts are being ramped up at Adelaide Airport after the discovery of viral fragments of foot-and-mouth disease (FMD). Agriculture Minister Murray Watt said the fragments were picked up in an undeclared beef product brought in by a passenger from Indonesia.
“What has been found is viral fragments, which are almost certainly dead,” he said. “They’re not live virus and it doesn’t mean that we’ve got foot-and-mouth disease in the country at the moment.” The federal Department of Agriculture, Water and the Environment did not say when the fragments were found, except to note it was “recently”.
who gives a fuck anyway this thing doesn’t even kill humans under 25 years of age
oh wait we know, it’s because someone said it might have impacts on The Economy Must Grow that’s the only thing that matters
A widespread outbreak of FMD in Australia could cost the economy billions of dollars.
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someone said it might have impacts on The Economy Must Grow that’s the only thing
Laugh Out Loud
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/personal-stories-wa-nurses-resigning-due-to-stress/101258668
“I know a lot of my colleagues sit in their cars before their shift to try to muster up the energy to go in, and then they sit in their cars at the end of their shift and just cry from the stress.”
shut the fuck up and Grow The Economy you birch trees sorry we meant weeping willows
Deaths from COVID-19 reported in New South Wales increased by 50 per cent last week compared with the week before, new data shows. As the third wave of the Omicron sub-variant took off across the state, 142 people were reported to have died with COVID-19 in the week ending July 16, compared with 94 people the previous week. About one in 10 (13 per cent) of the deaths were in unvaccinated people, who number about 200,000 in New South Wales.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/covid-deaths-spike-in-nsw-new-data-shows/101257754
oh that must make NSWuhan special, it’s only 1 in 3 for Chairman Dan’s state
ah yes looks like Chairman has found the correct and final solution to the problem of overcrowded hospitals there, if you kill them young then they won’t clog up the health system when they get older
nice
here, from some of your favorit
or maybe it’s just beginning
democracy suicide
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here, from some of your favorit
It is well and truly making the news here. Even I have heard of it. Been on the radio news bulletins all day.
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someone said it might have impacts on The Economy Must Grow that’s the only thing
Laugh Out Loud
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/personal-stories-wa-nurses-resigning-due-to-stress/101258668
“I know a lot of my colleagues sit in their cars before their shift to try to muster up the energy to go in, and then they sit in their cars at the end of their shift and just cry from the stress.”
shut the fuck up and Grow The Economy you birch trees sorry we meant weeping willows
Deaths from COVID-19 reported in New South Wales increased by 50 per cent last week compared with the week before, new data shows. As the third wave of the Omicron sub-variant took off across the state, 142 people were reported to have died with COVID-19 in the week ending July 16, compared with 94 people the previous week. About one in 10 (13 per cent) of the deaths were in unvaccinated people, who number about 200,000 in New South Wales.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/covid-deaths-spike-in-nsw-new-data-shows/101257754
oh that must make NSWuhan special, it’s only 1 in 3 for Chairman Dan’s state
ah yes looks like Chairman has found the correct and final solution to the problem of overcrowded hospitals there, if you kill them young then they won’t clog up the health system when they get older
nice
>as the third wave of the Omicron sub-variant took off across the state
not sure how long the media ought be let get away with this
it’s more an artificial wave generated by a wave machine, if it’s a wave at all, maybe it’s something completely different, I might put together some other words, explain it some other way
why do I need see it as third wave of Omicron sub-variant, is there anything at all indicating this is the best way of seeing it, of conceptualizing it
it is of course the best way of seeing it as the masters of the superpandemic want it understood
the view was that if it was anywhere and everywhere it would become a nowhere, nowhere would it be a pandemic, it would stop being a pandemic, dissolve into the oblivion of normal, instead it evolved into a secret superpandemic, so secret the hosts need keep it secret from themselves, a common deceit, a shared deceit, which would work most effectively if it was a universal self-deceit and group deceit, a global deceit ultimately
it’s the same covid problem as the beginning, it’s more evolved and getting worse, helped by the deceit
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
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FMD
Biosecurity efforts are being ramped up at Adelaide Airport after the discovery of viral fragments of foot-and-mouth disease (FMD). Agriculture Minister Murray Watt said the fragments were picked up in an undeclared beef product brought in by a passenger from Indonesia.
“What has been found is viral fragments, which are almost certainly dead,” he said. “They’re not live virus and it doesn’t mean that we’ve got foot-and-mouth disease in the country at the moment.” The federal Department of Agriculture, Water and the Environment did not say when the fragments were found, except to note it was “recently”.
who gives a fuck anyway this thing doesn’t even kill humans under 25 years of age
oh wait we know, it’s because someone said it might have impacts on The Economy Must Grow that’s the only thing that matters
A widespread outbreak of FMD in Australia could cost the economy billions of dollars.
ABC News:
‘Government looks to invoke new biosecurity powers at Australian airports as early as this afternoon
ABC Rural
/By the National Regional Reporting Team’s Kath Sullivan and Jeremy Story Carter
The federal government could make foot mats mandatory for all travellers from Indonesia and create new biosecurity zones at airports in response to the foot-and-mouth disease threat.’Well, derrr, seems like the least that could be done.
I wonder if there’ll be protestors at various points of entry, demanding ‘freedom’, and holding signs with things on them like ‘my shoes, my choice’?
Install heavy machine guns and flamethrower units for the runners like when Covid first arrived
so now Communist Labor are stopping the boats hey
well can’t hide on an island forever, fuck all these FMDZero fanatics
You Fucking Legend Ripper
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jul/21/us-polio-case-unvaccinated-new-york
An unvaccinated young adult from New York recently contracted polio, the first US case in nearly a decade, health officials said Thursday. Officials said the patient, who lives in Rockland county, had developed paralysis. The person developed symptoms a month ago and did not recently travel outside the country, county health officials said. It appears the patient had a vaccine-derived strain of the virus, perhaps from someone who got live vaccine – available in other countries, but not the US – and spread it, officials said.
“This isn’t normal. We don’t want to see this,” Nuzzo said. “If you’re vaccinated, it’s not something you need to worry about. But if you haven’t gotten your kids vaccinated, it’s really important that you make sure they’re up to date.” In 1979, polio was declared eliminated in the US, meaning there was no longer routine spread.
we mean who gives a fuck right this is a mild disease in almost everyone and the survival rate is over 99% so
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You Fucking Legend Ripper
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jul/21/us-polio-case-unvaccinated-new-york
An unvaccinated young adult from New York recently contracted polio, the first US case in nearly a decade, health officials said Thursday. Officials said the patient, who lives in Rockland county, had developed paralysis. The person developed symptoms a month ago and did not recently travel outside the country, county health officials said. It appears the patient had a vaccine-derived strain of the virus, perhaps from someone who got live vaccine – available in other countries, but not the US – and spread it, officials said.
“This isn’t normal. We don’t want to see this,” Nuzzo said. “If you’re vaccinated, it’s not something you need to worry about. But if you haven’t gotten your kids vaccinated, it’s really important that you make sure they’re up to date.” In 1979, polio was declared eliminated in the US, meaning there was no longer routine spread.
we mean who gives a fuck right this is a mild disease in almost everyone and the survival rate is over 99% so
good news
The state has a record 358 patients in hospital with the virus, more than the total capacity of the Queen Elizabeth Hospital, which will have a 20-bed COVID-19 ward for the first time. Almost all of Adelaide’s emergency departments were over capacity on Friday, with a total of 119 patients waiting for an inpatient bed. In response, the state government has announced that surgical post-operative areas at the Royal Adelaide Hospital will temporarily be converted to hospital wards to accommodate 32 COVID-19 patients.
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Tau.Neutrino said:
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/australia
you could plot indifference over that, might be interesting, perhaps two plots, manufactured indifference, and native indifference, would many people be able to discern the difference now, if asked
i’d expect it would be a measure of effectiveness of propaganda that people wouldn’t be able to distinguish between the two, have little inclination to do so
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704
“Since January 2022, the majority of cases in Australia have been categorised as under investigation, with health authorities shifting from a strategy of containment to “living with the virus”..”
I been studying some charts and stuff
allowed myself some humor when saw the grey area so large for under investigation, thought hell they could have renamed it under infestation
transition said:
allowed myself some humor
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Pig Farmer Will Save Us ¡
should be a good market, expanding market
more breaking news
Company That Makes Air Filters Publishes News That Cheers On People Making Things Out Of … Air Filters
https://news.3m.com/2022-02-24-3M-scientists-This-Corsi-Rosenthal-box-movement-is-legit
The Economy Must Grow
It’s The Mental Health Aspects ¡¿¡
WTF
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PM Promulgates Anti-Mask Disinformation
It’s The Mental Health Aspects ¡¿¡
Not good enough really.
The PM should know if states are enforcing mandates.
Advocating for a mandate is different to enforcing a mandate.
Mental health aspects are secondary compared to wearing a mask and staying healthy.
Laid back attitudes are creating this unhealthy carefree approach.
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WTF
actually should have saved that for this
we thought there was a shortage of toilet paper
Qantas Airways Ltd. canceled one in 12 flights in Australia last month, even more than in May, increasing the pressure on Chief Executive Officer Alan Joyce as the airline struggles to cope with a demand rebound. Australia’s national airline scrapped 8.1% of scheduled domestic services in June, making it the country’s least reliable carrier, according to a government report released Thursday. Virgin Australia pulled 5.8% of its services. The figures do little to lighten the burden on Joyce, who has become a lightening rod for social media vitriol from unimpressed passengers. Critics accuse Joyce of cutting too many jobs during the pandemic and leaving the carrier unable to function properly now that travel is picking up. His harbor-side home in Sydney was this month pelted with eggs and toilet paper, according to local media.
what ¿ happened
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WTF
actually should have saved that for this
How about doing it again, just to be sure.
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WTF
actually should have saved that for this
Now, now, correlation is not necessarily causation…
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we thought there was a shortage of toilet paperQantas Airways Ltd. canceled one in 12 flights in Australia last month, even more than in May, increasing the pressure on Chief Executive Officer Alan Joyce as the airline struggles to cope with a demand rebound. Australia’s national airline scrapped 8.1% of scheduled domestic services in June, making it the country’s least reliable carrier, according to a government report released Thursday. Virgin Australia pulled 5.8% of its services. The figures do little to lighten the burden on Joyce, who has become a lightening rod for social media vitriol from unimpressed passengers. Critics accuse Joyce of cutting too many jobs during the pandemic and leaving the carrier unable to function properly now that travel is picking up. His harbor-side home in Sydney was this month pelted with eggs and toilet paper, according to local media.
what ¿ happened
Hey, this is Alan Joyce, the bloke who cancelled ALL of QANTAS’s flights just like that a while back, remember?
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WTF
She doesn’t seem that shy.
SCIENCE said:
PM Promulgates Anti-Mask Disinformation
It’s The Mental Health Aspects ¡¿¡
albo and his mob been out there strutting their stuff, parading their worldist credentials, for later when the wheels completely fall off, positioning themselves ideologically, the entire things turns on bullshit
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WTF
fit people can get by on a substantially diminished conscience, the Nazis were an example of that
father-in-law not so far back had that, leg went all black, fortunately responded very well to antibiotics, well after they got him to Adelaide and on the right antibiotics
ah good
According to the The Advertiser, Charlie’s mother learnt the six-year-old had hereditary heart disease and coeliac disease after she died.
so they had pre-existing conditions, that’ll suit nicely, no big deal
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someone said it might have impacts on The Economy Must Grow that’s the only thing
Laugh Out Loud
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/personal-stories-wa-nurses-resigning-due-to-stress/101258668
“I know a lot of my colleagues sit in their cars before their shift to try to muster up the energy to go in, and then they sit in their cars at the end of their shift and just cry from the stress.”
shut the fuck up and Grow The Economy you birch trees sorry we meant weeping willows
Deaths from COVID-19 reported in New South Wales increased by 50 per cent last week compared with the week before, new data shows. As the third wave of the Omicron sub-variant took off across the state, 142 people were reported to have died with COVID-19 in the week ending July 16, compared with 94 people the previous week. About one in 10 (13 per cent) of the deaths were in unvaccinated people, who number about 200,000 in New South Wales.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/covid-deaths-spike-in-nsw-new-data-shows/101257754
oh that must make NSWuhan special, it’s only 1 in 3 for Chairman Dan’s state
ah yes looks like Chairman has found the correct and final solution to the problem of overcrowded hospitals there, if you kill them young then they won’t clog up the health system when they get older
nice
>as the third wave of the Omicron sub-variant took off across the state
not sure how long the media ought be let get away with this
it’s more an artificial wave generated by a wave machine, if it’s a wave at all, maybe it’s something completely different, I might put together some other words, explain it some other way
why do I need see it as third wave of Omicron sub-variant, is there anything at all indicating this is the best way of seeing it, of conceptualizing it
it is of course the best way of seeing it as the masters of the superpandemic want it understood
the view was that if it was anywhere and everywhere it would become a nowhere, nowhere would it be a pandemic, it would stop being a pandemic, dissolve into the oblivion of normal, instead it evolved into a secret superpandemic, so secret the hosts need keep it secret from themselves, a common deceit, a shared deceit, which would work most effectively if it was a universal self-deceit and group deceit, a global deceit ultimately
it’s the same covid problem as the beginning, it’s more evolved and getting worse, helped by the deceit
oh no those NSWuhanians are catching up better hurry up and burn off more dry tinder
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Laugh Out Loud
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/personal-stories-wa-nurses-resigning-due-to-stress/101258668
“I know a lot of my colleagues sit in their cars before their shift to try to muster up the energy to go in, and then they sit in their cars at the end of their shift and just cry from the stress.”
shut the fuck up and Grow The Economy you birch trees sorry we meant weeping willows
Deaths from COVID-19 reported in New South Wales increased by 50 per cent last week compared with the week before, new data shows. As the third wave of the Omicron sub-variant took off across the state, 142 people were reported to have died with COVID-19 in the week ending July 16, compared with 94 people the previous week. About one in 10 (13 per cent) of the deaths were in unvaccinated people, who number about 200,000 in New South Wales.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/covid-deaths-spike-in-nsw-new-data-shows/101257754
oh that must make NSWuhan special, it’s only 1 in 3 for Chairman Dan’s state
ah yes looks like Chairman has found the correct and final solution to the problem of overcrowded hospitals there, if you kill them young then they won’t clog up the health system when they get older
nice
>as the third wave of the Omicron sub-variant took off across the state
not sure how long the media ought be let get away with this
it’s more an artificial wave generated by a wave machine, if it’s a wave at all, maybe it’s something completely different, I might put together some other words, explain it some other way
why do I need see it as third wave of Omicron sub-variant, is there anything at all indicating this is the best way of seeing it, of conceptualizing it
it is of course the best way of seeing it as the masters of the superpandemic want it understood
the view was that if it was anywhere and everywhere it would become a nowhere, nowhere would it be a pandemic, it would stop being a pandemic, dissolve into the oblivion of normal, instead it evolved into a secret superpandemic, so secret the hosts need keep it secret from themselves, a common deceit, a shared deceit, which would work most effectively if it was a universal self-deceit and group deceit, a global deceit ultimately
it’s the same covid problem as the beginning, it’s more evolved and getting worse, helped by the deceit
oh no those NSWuhanians are catching up better hurry up and burn off more dry tinder
- NSW — 41 deaths, 2,176 people in hospital
- Northern Territory — no deaths, 89 people in hospital
- Victoria — 44 deaths, 820 people in hospital
- Tasmania — one death, 176 people in hospital
- Queensland — 8 deaths, 1,061 people in hospital
- Western Australia — 2 deaths, 430 people in hospital
the real picture is in the maiming, and continued repeat maimings, endless maimings, and remember all deaths are preceded by an injury
the viral insult, biological insult, decline in experience of the home in the head, of so many, and many more
the backdrop is an ideological insult dressed up as liberty, but the reality is a lot of that is a nasty hoodoo, a decadent hoodoo
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2022/07/23/next-covid-wave-the-government-gaslighting-the-community#mtr
sarahs mum said:
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2022/07/23/next-covid-wave-the-government-gaslighting-the-community#mtr
read that
couple things stand out as absent, go unconsidered in that
firstly you can’t understate the psychological corruption of using a vaccine to release covid, add that the release was used to incentivize vaccine uptake, and further add that it was let go because it was deemed too contagious to contain, all these things render the situation an irretrievable psychological corruption
the other thing, is the mutation rate and scale problems related (waves they say, and reinfection) are made so by the mass infection numbers, the host base size, it’s massive
the size of the host base alone is a serious problem, it fuels rapid evolution of the plague, monstrously, it is a horror with no foreseeable end
whatever are all news to go between advertisements, disaster
does she think she’s living in a fairy tale or something
ahahahahahahaha
ahahahahahaha
ahahahahahaha
ahahahahahaha
Australia set a new PB for deaths yesterday.
As the glamour has gone out of it for politicians and media few people will hear about it though.
Peak Warming Man said:
Australia set a new PB for deaths yesterday.
As the glamour has gone out of it for politicians and media few people will hear about it though.
Seems to be false.
We had a day last year with 138 deaths.
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Australia set a new PB for deaths yesterday.
As the glamour has gone out of it for politicians and media few people will hear about it though.
Seems to be false.
We had a day last year with 138 deaths.
Heard it on News Radio this AM.
Who to believe, a Journalist or DV?
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Generalising, Mr. Travis.
I’m seeing increasing numbers of people wearing masks again. And sanitising etc.
We’re not all oblivious.
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FMD
Biosecurity efforts are being ramped up at Adelaide Airport after the discovery of viral fragments of foot-and-mouth disease (FMD). Agriculture Minister Murray Watt said the fragments were picked up in an undeclared beef product brought in by a passenger from Indonesia.
“What has been found is viral fragments, which are almost certainly dead,” he said. “They’re not live virus and it doesn’t mean that we’ve got foot-and-mouth disease in the country at the moment.” The federal Department of Agriculture, Water and the Environment did not say when the fragments were found, except to note it was “recently”.
who gives a fuck anyway this thing doesn’t even kill humans under 25 years of age
oh wait we know, it’s because someone said it might have impacts on The Economy Must Grow that’s the only thing that matters
A widespread outbreak of FMD in Australia could cost the economy billions of dollars.
Laugh Out Loud guess The Economy Must Grow only if it’s QANTAS
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has restated his opposition to suspending travel from Indonesia, saying it would risk Australian exports.
we mean there’s no way an outbreak of FMD would risk any exports
mildly interesting what they could do for even more medical research is take people who are nearing the end before removing the breathing tubes and stick them in this scanner, with the advantage that they’d be able to visualise still-living tissue
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mildly interesting what they could do for even more medical research is take people who are nearing the end before removing the breathing tubes and stick them in this scanner, with the advantage that they’d be able to visualise still-living tissue
link included
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FMD
Biosecurity efforts are being ramped up at Adelaide Airport after the discovery of viral fragments of foot-and-mouth disease (FMD). Agriculture Minister Murray Watt said the fragments were picked up in an undeclared beef product brought in by a passenger from Indonesia.
“What has been found is viral fragments, which are almost certainly dead,” he said. “They’re not live virus and it doesn’t mean that we’ve got foot-and-mouth disease in the country at the moment.” The federal Department of Agriculture, Water and the Environment did not say when the fragments were found, except to note it was “recently”.
who gives a fuck anyway this thing doesn’t even kill humans under 25 years of age
oh wait we know, it’s because someone said it might have impacts on The Economy Must Grow that’s the only thing that matters
A widespread outbreak of FMD in Australia could cost the economy billions of dollars.
Laugh Out Loud guess The Economy Must Grow only if it’s QANTAS
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has restated his opposition to suspending travel from Indonesia, saying it would risk Australian exports.
we mean there’s no way an outbreak of FMD would risk any exports
>Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has restated his opposition to suspending travel from Indonesia, saying it would risk Australian exports
I goes has look-see for that^
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-05/albanese-defends-international-travel/101209852
little giggle, search engine information about this website points to playschool
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_School_(Australian_TV_series)
“…Play School is an Australian educational television show for children produced by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC). It is the longest-running children’s show in Australia and the second-longest-running children’s show worldwide after British series Blue Peter.
An estimated 80% of pre-school children under six watch the program at least once a week….”
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SCIENCE said:mildly interesting what they could do for even more medical research is take people who are nearing the end before removing the breathing tubes and stick them in this scanner, with the advantage that they’d be able to visualise still-living tissue
link included
couldn’t read much of that, but what a wonderful heading, what a glorious endeavor
fucking ASIANS and their conservative faeces
Flutracking latest.
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It’s all down to letting those filthy gaijin back into Japan, i tells ya.
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It’s all down to letting those filthy gaijin back into Japan, i tells ya.
Ha!
Double jabbed today. A Pfizer for my fourth and I now have the full set – AZ x 2, MOD + PZ. I also got a flu jab.
started get the impression lastnight that news around subject plague is beginning to resemble news about markets (more amateur market reporting, commentary, like bullshit you might hear in the crypto space, for example), something similar being applied or expressed, intentionally or otherwise
optimistic reporting at low infection periods just before increases, that it’s already peaked and then out of it, sometimes with a blitz of data from faded reporting, cherry picking, whatever distortions intended to influence, give a false impression
perhaps it’s ‘optimism’, but whatever seems to likely desensitize, render insensitive, get people ‘invested’ with license that way
I think things transitioned to immunization mainly, + antivirals more recently (reliance on), minus any interventions, even encouragement of broad voluntary use of masks
whatever anyway, the Darwinian ‘morality’ is at work, don’t mean to draw adverse attention to Darwin there, more misuse of ideas related, that similar, notions at work
casualty numbers from the plague are right up there with world wars, perhaps it is in a way, a world war
guess we know who the doctors vote for
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To be fair, all three are holding masks, as if they have just removed them for the photo.
Michael V said:
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To be fair, all three are holding masks, as if they have just removed them for the photo.
yes we disclaim that copypasta need not represent our full agreement nandor endorsement
indeed despite wearing the “better” masks pretty much everywhere we ourselves too have been known for holding our breaths and demasking and smiling for photography
From The New Sun Org
https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/07/1122442
According to a new update on Wednesday from the World Health Organization (WHO), 35 countries in five regions of the world have now reported more than 1,010 probable cases of unexplained severe acute hepatitis, or liver inflammation, in youngsters, since the outbreak was first detected on 5 April.
So far, 22 children have died, and almost half of the probable cases have been reported in Europe, where 21 countries have registered a total of 484 cases.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-25/covid-19-stats-australia-death-rate-high/101266098
I really find it very difficult to believe that a mask mandate hasn’t been issued. Things are certainly different in Victoria when there’s an election coming up.
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-25/covid-19-stats-australia-death-rate-high/101266098I really find it very difficult to believe that a mask mandate hasn’t been issued. Things are certainly different in Victoria when there’s an election coming up.
You know it’s OK if you want to wear one. You are allowed to wear one.
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-25/covid-19-stats-australia-death-rate-high/101266098
I really find it very difficult to believe that a mask mandate hasn’t been issued. Things are certainly different in Victoria when there’s an election coming up.
“expert” what a joke, probably knows nothing
https://twitter.com/Globalbiosec
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dv said:
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shrug what’s a few more deaths anyway remember the median age is in the middle so if you kill off a few more useless oldies then guess what happens to the median and that’s a good thing because then you can find more people above median age to kill
It’s Genius¡
Yeah but you have to remember that no life will exist once all the baryons decay some 10^80 years from now.
exactly, who cares about an increase in heat death expectancy of less than 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% time to drink that paraquat now
ahahahahahahaha
ahahahahahahaha
burn baby
buffy said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-25/covid-19-stats-australia-death-rate-high/101266098I really find it very difficult to believe that a mask mandate hasn’t been issued. Things are certainly different in Victoria when there’s an election coming up.
You know it’s OK if you want to wear one. You are allowed to wear one.
I do.
Have some stats. But read the bit at the bottom too.
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Notes and methods:
Many countries only report data sporadically and others have stopped some reporting entirely. Some gaps also exist because of inconsistent reporting Missing values have been filled using linear interpolation only where there are gaps between points, without projecting forward.————————————————————————————————————————————
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2022/jul/21/how-does-australias-covid-death-rate-and-hospitalisations-compare-with-other-countries
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What’s next ?
Captain Trips, Croatoan virus, Rage virus, T-virus
“Australia’s COVID-19 cases and death rates were the third highest in the world per capita during the past week, and the numbers are getting worse.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-25/covid-19-stats-australia-death-rate-high/101266098
Norm’s got it again.
“ABC’s Dr Norman Swan gets Covid a second time despite four vaccine doses”
Cymek said:
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sibeen said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-25/covid-19-stats-australia-death-rate-high/101266098
I really find it very difficult to believe that a mask mandate hasn’t been issued. Things are certainly different in Victoria when there’s an election coming up.
You know it’s OK if you want to wear one. You are allowed to wear one.
I do.
What’s next ?
Captain Trips, Croatoan virus, Rage virus, T-virus
complete with alarmist HCW so-called “experts” but just chickenshit grifters obviously
Good News ¡ Majority Of Families Report Reinfection Not More Severe
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-25/covid-19-stats-australia-death-rate-high/101266098
I really find it very difficult to believe that a mask mandate hasn’t been issued. Things are certainly different in Victoria when there’s an election coming up.
“expert” what a joke, probably knows nothing
https://twitter.com/Globalbiosec
be fairly sure open for business /live with the virus, on top the extra debt Australia incurred for stimulus, getting a reminder now who your masters are, what is master, don’t think the money isn’t clawing back some structure
the idea never let a good crisis go to waste, whatever corruption of what churchill said, if he said it, like a fucken mantra these days, religion, the guy be turning in his grave, at the inverted fascism
maybe he had cautionary words about that too, that it would be unrecognizable next time around, couldn’t be sure now
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-25/covid-19-stats-australia-death-rate-high/101266098
I really find it very difficult to believe that a mask mandate hasn’t been issued. Things are certainly different in Victoria when there’s an election coming up.
“expert” what a joke, probably knows nothing
https://twitter.com/Globalbiosec
be fairly sure open for business /live with the virus, on top the extra debt Australia incurred for stimulus, getting a reminder now who your masters are, what is master, don’t think the money isn’t clawing back some structure
the idea never let a good crisis go to waste, whatever corruption of what churchill said, if he said it, like a fucken mantra these days, religion, the guy be turning in his grave, at the inverted fascism
maybe he had cautionary words about that too, that it would be unrecognizable next time around, couldn’t be sure now
Climates ripe for fascism, good way to blame someone for the world ills when its actually all of humanity, some more than others though, the ones denying things
just for interest
or actuarial study
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just for interest
or actuarial study
US mortality in the 30s is double that in the UK? Bloody.
dv said:
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just for interest
or actuarial study
US mortality in the 30s is double that in the UK? Bloody.
Fucking socialised medicine and fucking gun laws.
Two years after drive began, China reveals Xi Jinping received local COVID vaccine
By Roxanne Liu and Yew Lun Tian
July 24, 2022 — 12.30pm
Beijing: China’s COVID-19 vaccines are safe and have been given to leaders of the state and ruling Communist Party, officials said, as Beijing steps up efforts to allay public concerns about safety that risk hampering its vaccination drive.
“China’s state and Party leaders have all been vaccinated against COVID-19 with domestically made shots,” said Zeng Yixin, deputy head of the National Health Commission on Saturday (China time).
Read more:
https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/two-years-later-china-says-xi-jinping-received-local-covid-vaccine-20220724-p5b43f.html
sibeen said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
just for interest
or actuarial study
US mortality in the 30s is double that in the UK? Bloody.
Fucking socialised medicine and fucking gun laws.
Had to go check whether the above was real.
The variation of US death rates for each race, age, and sex group with diagnosis indicates that deaths from HIV and those from injuries related to firearms (and hence for homicides) account for a considerable proportion of the higher death rates in the United States. If injuries related to firearms are excluded, the death rate for black and African-American men in the 15-24 age group falls from 181/100 000 to 90/100 000 (in England and Wales the firearms death rate is 0.6/100 000 for the same age group). The differences in death rates related to HIV have been falling as a result of treatment with protease inhibitor and other HIV drugs since the mid-1990s.w1 For black and African-American women aged 25-34, about a quarter of all deaths are due to complications of pregnancy, childbirth, and the puerperium, about four times the rate in white women.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC535447/
sibeen said:
deaths are due to complications of pregnancy, childbirth, and the puerperium, about
fuck yeah
the following seems to be forecasting more than outright strong evidence but there you go
https://www.axios.com/2022/07/05/maternal-mortality-death-abortion-ban-roe
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/datablog/ng-interactive/2022/jul/25/covid-19-cases-australia-today-vaccine-data-tracker-booster-4th-dose-fourth-nsw-qld-vic-victoria-hospitalisations-coronavirus-variant-tracking-stats-live-update-by-state-how-many-people-vaccination-total-new-case-numbers-statistics-deaths-per-day-death-toll
‘….nature of the coronavirus outbreak….’ by memory, not verbatim maybe
where did it break out from
see it however
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/inbreak#English
From Middle English *inbreken, from Old English inbrecan (“to break into”), equivalent to in- + break. Cognate with Dutch inbreken (“to break in”), German einbrechen (“to break in”)
(transitive) To break in; break into; make an incursion into; insert into; interrupt
Peak Warming Man said:
Norm’s got it again.“ABC’s Dr Norman Swan gets Covid a second time despite four vaccine doses”
I sees of a couple hosts recently had master swan on their show, one of them performed such a wonderful service to Australian health policy by using a term from the daily fail I think it was, the lady sounded friendly but minds do a lot of their secret business behind friendly
Ooooops.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jul/23/alzheimers-study-fraudulent
See, You Don’t Need A Mask Mandate To Get 100% Masking
oh wait
Fuck ASIA And Laugh Out Loud
Curve Fattened ¡
SCIENCE said:
See, You Don’t Need A Mask Mandate To Get 100% Masking
But You Do Need Political Players To Duck And Weave
love how they’re entitling “CMO Paul Kelly says he’s never provided mental health advice on mask mandates” all about the MHA and even
Chief medical officer Paul Kelly has revealed he has never advised Prime Minister Anthony Albanese not to introduce mask mandates on mental health grounds revealing it’s ultimately a matter for political leaders to decide.
but despite the collimation actually the player says
Equally, he said he didn’t see it as his role to instruct politicians to mandate masks. Instead, he stressed that his strong current advice was to encourage mask use but how that was implemented was ultimately a matter for political leaders to work out. Asked what he would do if the Prime Minister came to him and asked for a mask mandate, Prof Kelly said it was matter for the states to make public health orders. “I would advise him very strongly that that is actually a matter for the states,” he said.
so equally useless but hey we knew that in the absence of STEMocracy that’s what you get
“The governments are the decision makers. We live in a democracy, not a technocracy.”
sorry in STEMocracies the governments are still the decision makers, they’re just better decision makers
but anyway we were talking about quacks and stitchups here’s the government leader
In the same interview, he said no chief minister or premier has advocated for a mandate, and stated Prof Kelly had also “not put forward a plan for mandates”. “He’s used the same language that I’ve seen state premiers use, which is that people should be highly encouraged to wear masks indoors, where they’re in circumstances where they can’t socially distance,” he said.
nice, so medical officers should leave decisions to the political leaders, and political leaders should wait for direction from medical officers, nice
or Federal should Leave It To The States and States should Leave It To Federal or what
¿remember when Turncoat needed to referendum the YesNo SSM thing because leadership?
also
“That’s really tough on young people in particular, young people not being able to go out and engage in the normal way.”
sorry to break it to yousall but guess what with proper mask use and thereby effective interruption of transmission, virtually all people young or old would be able to go out and engage in pretty much the normal way
SCIENCE said:
don’t worry the Murder Media wouldn’t deliberately infect political leaders with a bioweapon would they surely not
fuckus, ever heard of lavalier sheesh
SCIENCE said:
I agree with everything you’re saying if not how you’re saying it.. it’s all a bit repetitive and hyperbolic. But this is a very small forum. I hope that you’re emailing your local member, the health minister and the PM with your concerns.
SCIENCE said:See, You Don’t Need A Mask Mandate To Get 100% Masking
But You Do Need Political Players To Duck And Weave
love how they’re entitling “CMO Paul Kelly says he’s never provided mental health advice on mask mandates” all about the MHA and even
Chief medical officer Paul Kelly has revealed he has never advised Prime Minister Anthony Albanese not to introduce mask mandates on mental health grounds revealing it’s ultimately a matter for political leaders to decide.
but despite the collimation actually the player says
Equally, he said he didn’t see it as his role to instruct politicians to mandate masks. Instead, he stressed that his strong current advice was to encourage mask use but how that was implemented was ultimately a matter for political leaders to work out. Asked what he would do if the Prime Minister came to him and asked for a mask mandate, Prof Kelly said it was matter for the states to make public health orders. “I would advise him very strongly that that is actually a matter for the states,” he said.
so equally useless but hey we knew that in the absence of STEMocracy that’s what you get
“The governments are the decision makers. We live in a democracy, not a technocracy.”
sorry in STEMocracies the governments are still the decision makers, they’re just better decision makers
but anyway we were talking about quacks and stitchups here’s the government leader
In the same interview, he said no chief minister or premier has advocated for a mandate, and stated Prof Kelly had also “not put forward a plan for mandates”. “He’s used the same language that I’ve seen state premiers use, which is that people should be highly encouraged to wear masks indoors, where they’re in circumstances where they can’t socially distance,” he said.
nice, so medical officers should leave decisions to the political leaders, and political leaders should wait for direction from medical officers, nice
or Federal should Leave It To The States and States should Leave It To Federal or what
¿remember when Turncoat needed to referendum the YesNo SSM thing because leadership?
also
“That’s really tough on young people in particular, young people not being able to go out and engage in the normal way.”
sorry to break it to yousall but guess what with proper mask use and thereby effective interruption of transmission, virtually all people young or old would be able to go out and engage in pretty much the normal way
(When you’re talking to the PM maybe leave out a bit about STEMocracies)
Ian said:
SCIENCE said:I agree with everything you’re saying if not how you’re saying it.. it’s all a bit repetitive and hyperbolic. But this is a very small forum. I hope that you’re emailing your local member, the health minister and the PM with your concerns.
SCIENCE said:See, You Don’t Need A Mask Mandate To Get 100% Masking
But You Do Need Political Players To Duck And Weave
love how they’re entitling “CMO Paul Kelly says he’s never provided mental health advice on mask mandates” all about the MHA and even
Chief medical officer Paul Kelly has revealed he has never advised Prime Minister Anthony Albanese not to introduce mask mandates on mental health grounds revealing it’s ultimately a matter for political leaders to decide.
but despite the collimation actually the player says
Equally, he said he didn’t see it as his role to instruct politicians to mandate masks. Instead, he stressed that his strong current advice was to encourage mask use but how that was implemented was ultimately a matter for political leaders to work out. Asked what he would do if the Prime Minister came to him and asked for a mask mandate, Prof Kelly said it was matter for the states to make public health orders. “I would advise him very strongly that that is actually a matter for the states,” he said.
so equally useless but hey we knew that in the absence of STEMocracy that’s what you get
“The governments are the decision makers. We live in a democracy, not a technocracy.”
sorry in STEMocracies the governments are still the decision makers, they’re just better decision makers
but anyway we were talking about quacks and stitchups here’s the government leader
In the same interview, he said no chief minister or premier has advocated for a mandate, and stated Prof Kelly had also “not put forward a plan for mandates”. “He’s used the same language that I’ve seen state premiers use, which is that people should be highly encouraged to wear masks indoors, where they’re in circumstances where they can’t socially distance,” he said.
nice, so medical officers should leave decisions to the political leaders, and political leaders should wait for direction from medical officers, nice
or Federal should Leave It To The States and States should Leave It To Federal or what
¿remember when Turncoat needed to referendum the YesNo SSM thing because leadership?
also
“That’s really tough on young people in particular, young people not being able to go out and engage in the normal way.”
sorry to break it to yousall but guess what with proper mask use and thereby effective interruption of transmission, virtually all people young or old would be able to go out and engage in pretty much the normal way
(When you’re talking to the PM maybe leave out a bit about STEMocracies)
fair, we really should try to rein in the sargasms sometimes, but yes we’ve sent premiers and primes some mails earlier in the peace
Just looking at my vaccination certificate.
It says “This individual has received all required COVID-19 vaccinations”
So I mustn’t need a fourth one.
Peak Warming Man said:
Just looking at my vaccination certificate.
It says “This individual has received all required COVID-19 vaccinations”
So I mustn’t need a fourth one.
you must be due for a live-virus test, a further immunity booster that way, or maiming or worse, depending on your personal luck
it’s the new secret communication of the worldists, the darwinist worldists, keen on resilience, a big reset
Laugh Out Loud
Ah But It Only Causes Damage When It’s Injected As Opposed To Naturally Acquired Right ¿
No, This Is Good News ¡ Being Set Apart From Previously Known Coronaviruses, It’ll Induce Flock Immunity Just Unlike Every Other Coronavirus ¡
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Yeah but you have to remember that no life will exist once all the baryons decay some 10^80 years from now.
exactly, who cares about an increase in heat death expectancy of less than 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% time to drink that paraquat now
ahahahahahahaha
ahahahahahahaha
burn baby
LOLOLOL
excellent
Good News, Imagine A Health System So Powerful It Can Casually Admit 1660 Cases Of COVID-19 Per Day
SCIENCE said:
Good News, Imagine A Health System So Powerful It Can Casually Admit 1660 Cases Of COVID-19 Per Day
Easy. You just have to discharge a similar number on the day before.
I’m not saying that choosing that 1,660 to boot out will be fun, or that some people won’t get in a tizzy over it, but, eggs and omelettes and all that.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
exactly, who cares about an increase in heat death expectancy of less than 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% time to drink that paraquat now
ahahahahahahaha
ahahahahahahaha
burn baby
LOLOLOL
excellent
An 82.9 year old Australian woman has a life expectancy of 92. If she needlessly dies at his age, 9 years of her life have been squandered.
dv said:
An 82.9 year old Australian woman has a life expectancy of 92. If she needlessly dies at his age, 9 years of her life have been squandered.
Let’s call the glass ‘half-full’.
She will have donated 9 years of her life to the economic benefit of the nation.
Their should be a Roll of Honour for such people in the Treasury building.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
Good News, Imagine A Health System So Powerful It Can Casually Admit 1660 Cases Of COVID-19 Per Day
Easy. You just have to discharge a similar number on the day before.
I’m not saying that choosing that 1,660 to boot out will be fun, or that some people won’t get in a tizzy over it, but, eggs and omelettes and all that.
just choose the over-50s, they have a duty to
uh
make way
shall we call it
dv said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahaha
ahahahahahahaha
burn baby
LOLOLOL
excellent
An 82.9 year old Australian woman has a life expectancy of 92. If she needlessly dies at his age, 9 years of her life have been squandered.
stay focused on the maimings, and repeat maimings, that’s what the nasty bastards are distracting from, and remember the deaths are preceded by an injury (viral-induced biological insult) remind the arseholes of that, they want remove that reality from your mind, render people indifferent to that
captain_spalding said:
dv said:An 82.9 year old Australian woman has a life expectancy of 92. If she needlessly dies at his age, 9 years of her life have been squandered.
Let’s call the glass ‘half-full’.
She will have donated 9 years of her life to the economic benefit of the nation.
Their should be a Roll of Honour for such people in the Treasury building.
Oh cool so we are in the Logan’s Run phase
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:An 82.9 year old Australian woman has a life expectancy of 92. If she needlessly dies at his age, 9 years of her life have been squandered.
Let’s call the glass ‘half-full’.
She will have donated 9 years of her life to the economic benefit of the nation.
Their should be a Roll of Honour for such people in the Treasury building.
Oh cool so we are in the Logan’s Run phase
Carousel time
bloody mask wearing leftists.
(who will have covid next week?)
sarahs mum said:
bloody mask wearing leftists.
(who will have covid next week?)
Bloody vaping proctor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIAAlq7Nsj0
Dr Norman Swan looks at the rise of COVID reinfections | 7.30
watching that^
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
in breaking news, SARACAIDS-CoV appears to also cause coronary artery thrombosis, pancreatic failure, and cerebral atrophy
You’re just full of good news, ain’t yer?
Please Do Shoot Us, We’re Just The Messenger
Ribonucleic Acid Vaccinesbut seriously, once we get through this little section of project, we’ll link everyone in to the fun references we’ve been reading about all those nice pleasant side effects that come with* natural immunity
*: for values of “with” approaching “without”, since as we(1,1,1) all know, the natural immunity period is now under 28 days
here’s an instalment and there’s plenty of others to come
https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1004052
In this study, we found that CVD was increased early after COVID-19 mainly from pulmonary embolism, atrial arrhythmias, and venous thromboses. DM incidence remained elevated for at least 12 weeks following COVID-19 before declining. People without preexisting CVD or DM who suffer from COVID-19 do not appear to have a long-term increase in incidence of these conditions.
- Acute COVID-19 is associated with increased risk of cardiovascular disorders, but risk generally returns to background levels soon after the infection.
- The risk of new DM remains increased for at least 12 weeks following COVID-19 before declining.
- Patients recovering from COVID-19 should be advised to consider measures to reduce diabetes risk including healthy diet and taking exercise.
- People without preexisting CVD or DM who suffer from COVID-19 do not appear to have a long-term increase in incidence of these conditions.
there’s a tiny bit of possible forgiveness where they say returned to baseline levels or below but that seems fairly noncommittal
same dig, better picture
fun fun fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FBaY5dxw1A
easy
peasy
Well clearly the fucking obvious answer is also yes¡
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
Please Do Shoot Us, We’re Just The Messenger
Ribonucleic Acid Vaccinesbut seriously, once we get through this little section of project, we’ll link everyone in to the fun references we’ve been reading about all those nice pleasant side effects that come with* natural immunity
*: for values of “with” approaching “without”, since as we(1,1,1) all know, the natural immunity period is now under 28 days
here’s an instalment and there’s plenty of others to come
https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1004052
In this study, we found that CVD was increased early after COVID-19 mainly from pulmonary embolism, atrial arrhythmias, and venous thromboses. DM incidence remained elevated for at least 12 weeks following COVID-19 before declining. People without preexisting CVD or DM who suffer from COVID-19 do not appear to have a long-term increase in incidence of these conditions.
- Acute COVID-19 is associated with increased risk of cardiovascular disorders, but risk generally returns to background levels soon after the infection.
- The risk of new DM remains increased for at least 12 weeks following COVID-19 before declining.
- Patients recovering from COVID-19 should be advised to consider measures to reduce diabetes risk including healthy diet and taking exercise.
- People without preexisting CVD or DM who suffer from COVID-19 do not appear to have a long-term increase in incidence of these conditions.
there’s a tiny bit of possible forgiveness where they say returned to baseline levels or below but that seems fairly noncommittal
same dig, better picture
just having read this below, reckon there’s research going way back re the plague may…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pericyte
“…Pericytes (previously known as Rouget cells) are multi-functional mural cells of the microcirculation that wrap around the endothelial cells that line the capillaries throughout the body. Pericytes are embedded in the basement membrane of blood capillaries, where they communicate with endothelial cells by means of both direct physical contact and paracrine signaling. The morphology, distribution, density and molecular fingerprints of pericytes vary between organs and vascular beds. Pericytes help to maintain homeostatic and hemostatic functions in the brain, one of the organs with higher pericyte coverage, and also sustain the blood–brain barrier. These cells are also a key component of the neurovascular unit, which includes endothelial cells, astrocytes, and neurons. Pericytes have been postulated to regulate capillary blood flow and the clearance and phagocytosis of cellular debris in vitro. Pericytes stabilize and monitor the maturation of endothelial cells by means of direct communication between the cell membrane as well as through paracrine signaling. A deficiency of pericytes in the central nervous system can cause increased permeability of the blood–brain barrier..”
SCIENCE said:
fun fun fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FBaY5dxw1A
easy
peasy
Well clearly the fucking obvious answer is also yes¡
there absolutely are forces enthusiastic to blitz medicine with the plague, and deploy the public to do it
fairly much anyone that doesn’t work first and foremost for money is enemy
SCIENCE said:
Curve Fattened ¡
Laugh Out Loud
Remember how early on in Pandemic, a strong and valid hypothesis to explain apparent levelling out of confirmed cases was that testing became saturated (and therefore then prevalence and positivity estimates would be a better measure) ¿
Is it possible that
hospital admission processes can get saturated as well ¿
What Could That Possibly Mean ¿
Ahahahahahahahahahahaha¡
https://rodinanews.co.uk/news/scientists-find-unexplained-lines-of-holes-1-7-miles-below-the-surface-of-the-atlantic-ocean/57126/#:~:text=Baffled%20scientists%20discover%20%E2%80%98perfectly%20aligned%E2%80%99%20holes%20punched%20into,seabed%201.7%20miles%20below%20the%20Atlantic%20Ocean%E2%80%99s%20surface
Scientists find unexplained lines of holes 1.7 miles below the surface of the Atlantic Ocean
BY ADMIN · JULY 26, 2022
Baffled scientists discover ‘perfectly aligned’ holes punched into the ground 1.7 miles below the surface of the Atlantic Ocean that look like human-made excavations
Explorers with the National Ocean and Atmospheric Administration found some unexplained holes on seabed 1.7 miles below the Atlantic Ocean’s surface
‘These holes have been previously reported from the region, but their origin remains a mystery’ scientists said in a Facebook post asking users for help
Users said the holes could be from a mechanical rover, a crab, aliens or simply a natural result of sediment and water moving through the seabed
The Mid-Atlantic Range spans the north-south length of the Atlantic Ocean and stretches for 10,000 miles, making it the longest mountain range in the world
By Christopher Carbone U.S. Science And Technology Editor For Dailymail.Com
PUBLISHED: 15:18 EDT, 26 July 2022 | UPDATED: 17:04 EDT, 26 July 2022
Scientists discovered some unexplained, mysterious holes in the seabed 1.7 miles below the surface of the Atlantic Ocean – and asked Facebook users to help them identify the unique indentations that form a straight line.
‘Okay Facebookers, time to get out those scientist hats!’ they wrote on the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Ocean Exploration Facebook page.
‘On Saturday’s #Okeanos dive, we observed several of these sublinear sets of holes in the sediment. These holes have been previously reported from the region, but their origin remains a mystery. While they look almost human made, the little piles of sediment around the holes make them seem like they were excavated by…something.’
‘On Saturday’s #Okeanos dive, we observed several of these sublinear sets of holes in the sediment. These holes have been previously reported from the region, but their origin remains a mystery,’ NOAA scientists wrote on Facebook
The explorers are part of NOAA’s Voyage to the Ridge 2022, a series of three ocean explorations that include mapping and a remotely-operated vehicle to gain a better understanding of deepwater areas around the Mid-Atlantic Ridge
The explorers are part of NOAA’s Voyage to the Ridge 2022, a series of three ocean explorations that include mapping and a remotely-operated vehicle to gain a better understanding of deepwater areas around the Mid-Atlantic Ridge
‘What’s YOUR hypothesis?’ they asked users, regarding the holes found near the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, prompting a very wide range of responses
‘What’s YOUR hypothesis?’ they asked users, regarding the holes found near the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, prompting a very wide range of responses
The explorers are part of NOAA’s Voyage to the Ridge 2022, a series of three ocean explorations that include mapping and a remotely-operated vehicle to gain a better understanding of deepwater areas around the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, Azores Plateau and Charlie-Gibbs Fracture Zone.
‘What’s YOUR hypothesis?’ they asked users, regarding the holes found near the Mid-Atlantic Ridge.
Over 60 Facebook users commented and provided a range of different theories for what could have made the prominent, rather uniform-looking indentations in the ocean’s floor.
‘I wonder if some company may be conducting sea floor samples,’ one user wrote. ‘That might explain the straight lines and the spacing of the holes. Especially if you have seen others in the region. Only thing is, everything else around it doesn’t seem like it’s been disturbed.’
‘I wonder if some company may be conducting sea floor samples,’ one Facebook user wrote. ‘That might explain the straight lines and the spacing of the holes.’ Pictured above isa fogbow over the fantail of NOAA’s Okeanos Explorer ship
‘I wonder if some company may be conducting sea floor samples,’ one Facebook user wrote. ‘That might explain the straight lines and the spacing of the holes.’ Pictured above isa fogbow over the fantail of NOAA’s Okeanos Explorer ship
Pictured above: Remotely operated vehicle Deep Discoverer traverses over the seafloor of the volcano explored during the fourth dive of the Voyage to the Ridge 2022 expedition
Pictured above: Remotely operated vehicle Deep Discoverer traverses over the seafloor of the volcano explored during the fourth dive of the Voyage to the Ridge 2022 expedition
‘Upwelling! Freshwater from a land source bubbling up? As if there’s a rock under there allowing the flowing water to break through in that linear manner.’ a second user commented.
Another used suggested, ‘Some type of crab maybe’
A user shared a meme saying: I’m not saying it was the aliens…but it was the aliens’
One commenter offered a less supernatural explanation: ‘This to me looks like the sediment is falling through, or water flowing up from a crack in a geological shelf or cave roof.
‘I suspect either ancient coral or some sedimentary rock structure underneath has a void for which material is being washed out further away. I would start to see if there was any caves or deformation in the seabed.’
The Mid-Atlantic Range spans the north-south length of the Atlantic Ocean and stretches for 10,000 miles, making it the longest mountain range in the world and one of Earth’s most impressive geological features.
Since most of it sits underwater, it remains largely unexplored.
It’s also the site of frequent earthquakes and home to eye-catching hydrothermal vents that can form where magma provides heat as it rises to the seafloor.
The Mid-Atlantic Range spans the north-south length of the Atlantic Ocean and stretches for 10,000 miles, making it the longest mountain range in the world and one of Earth’s most impressive geological features. Pictured above is NOAA’s Okeanos Explorer ship
The Mid-Atlantic Range spans the north-south length of the Atlantic Ocean and stretches for 10,000 miles, making it the longest mountain range in the world and one of Earth’s most impressive geological features. Pictured above is NOAA’s Okeanos Explorer ship
Pictured above is the anticipated track of Okeanos Explorer during the second Voyage to the Ridge 2022 expedition. This series of expeditions will provide high-resolution information about seafloor features and an opportunity to engage in exploration of this largely unknown area in real time
Pictured above is the anticipated track of Okeanos Explorer during the second Voyage to the Ridge 2022 expedition. This series of expeditions will provide high-resolution information about seafloor features and an opportunity to engage in exploration of this largely unknown area in real time
monkey skipper said:
https://rodinanews.co.uk/news/scientists-find-unexplained-lines-of-holes-1-7-miles-below-the-surface-of-the-atlantic-ocean/57126/#:~:text=Baffled%20scientists%20discover%20%E2%80%98perfectly%20aligned%E2%80%99%20holes%20punched%20into,seabed%201.7%20miles%20below%20the%20Atlantic%20Ocean%E2%80%99s%20surface
Scientists find unexplained lines of holes 1.7 miles below the surface of the Atlantic Ocean
BY ADMIN · JULY 26, 2022Baffled scientists discover ‘perfectly aligned’ holes punched into the ground 1.7 miles below the surface of the Atlantic Ocean that look like human-made excavations
Pretty poor reporting. Nowhere does it give a link to the source, there is no video to scroll down to, and they do not give a scale for the “Holes”.
Dark Orange said:
monkey skipper said:https://rodinanews.co.uk/news/scientists-find-unexplained-lines-of-holes-1-7-miles-below-the-surface-of-the-atlantic-ocean/57126/#:~:text=Baffled%20scientists%20discover%20%E2%80%98perfectly%20aligned%E2%80%99%20holes%20punched%20into,seabed%201.7%20miles%20below%20the%20Atlantic%20Ocean%E2%80%99s%20surface
Scientists find unexplained lines of holes 1.7 miles below the surface of the Atlantic Ocean
BY ADMIN · JULY 26, 2022Baffled scientists discover ‘perfectly aligned’ holes punched into the ground 1.7 miles below the surface of the Atlantic Ocean that look like human-made excavations
Pretty poor reporting. Nowhere does it give a link to the source, there is no video to scroll down to, and they do not give a scale for the “Holes”.
lemme add those
monkey skipper said:
https://rodinanews.co.uk/news/scientists-find-unexplained-lines-of-holes-1-7-miles-below-the-surface-of-the-atlantic-ocean/57126/#:~:text=Baffled%20scientists%20discover%20%E2%80%98perfectly%20aligned%E2%80%99%20holes%20punched%20into,seabed%201.7%20miles%20below%20the%20Atlantic%20Ocean%E2%80%99s%20surface
Scientists find unexplained lines of holes 1.7 miles below the surface of the Atlantic Ocean
BY ADMIN · JULY 26, 2022
…
There’s no scale. How big are these holes?
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud
Ah But It Only Causes Damage When It’s Injected As Opposed To Naturally Acquired Right ¿
No, This Is Good News ¡ Being Set Apart From Previously Known Coronaviruses, It’ll Induce Flock Immunity Just Unlike Every Other Coronavirus ¡
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Curve Fattened ¡
Laugh Out Loud
Remember how early on in Pandemic, a strong and valid hypothesis to explain apparent levelling out of confirmed cases was that testing became saturated (and therefore then prevalence and positivity estimates would be a better measure) ¿
Is it possible that
hospital admission processes can get saturated as well ¿
What Could That Possibly Mean ¿
Ahahahahahahahahahahaha¡
dunno but I sees instrumental capture fade along with escalating infection numbers, there’s a threshold, a tipping point, assisted by humans committed to it’s too contagion to contain, which required humans have a shared fibly
Almost 50% of Australians had been infected with Covid as of mid-June, blood survey shows
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/27/almost-50-of-australians-had-a-recent-covid-infection-in-mid-june-blood-donor-survey-suggests?CMP=soc_567
dv said:
Almost 50% of Australians had been infected with Covid as of mid-June, blood survey showshttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/27/almost-50-of-australians-had-a-recent-covid-infection-in-mid-june-blood-donor-survey-suggests?CMP=soc_567
Metal poisoning
Zarkov said:
dv said:
Almost 50% of Australians had been infected with Covid as of mid-June, blood survey shows
Metal poisoning
fkn useless blood donors if they didn’t test then we wouldn’t have pandemic
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different page same topic
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-27/almost-half-of-australians-had-a-recent-case-of-covid-by-june/101271784
dv said:
Almost 50% of Australians had been infected with Covid as of mid-June, blood survey showshttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/27/almost-50-of-australians-had-a-recent-covid-infection-in-mid-june-blood-donor-survey-suggests?CMP=soc_567
From that (I’ve just started reading it)
“Meanwhile, anti-spike antibodies were found in 99% of samples, consistent with Australia’s high vaccination rate.”
Actually, you are required to be vaccinated to give blood, so it’s consistent with the requirement of blood donors to be vaccinated, not with “Australia’s high vaccination rate”.
buffy said:
“Meanwhile, anti-spike antibodies were found in 99% of samples, consistent with Australia’s high vaccination rate.”
Actually, you are required to be vaccinated to give blood, so it’s consistent with the requirement of blood donors to be vaccinated, not with “Australia’s high vaccination rate”.
you’re right, vaccine requirements are indeed consistent with a high vaccination rate
SCIENCE said:
you’re right, vaccine requirements are indeed consistent with a high vaccination rate
imagine if it was possible to require mask use to prevent transmission of a nasty disease
buffy said:
dv said:
Almost 50% of Australians had been infected with Covid as of mid-June, blood survey showshttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/27/almost-50-of-australians-had-a-recent-covid-infection-in-mid-june-blood-donor-survey-suggests?CMP=soc_567
From that (I’ve just started reading it)
“Meanwhile, anti-spike antibodies were found in 99% of samples, consistent with Australia’s high vaccination rate.”
Actually, you are required to be vaccinated to give blood, so it’s consistent with the requirement of blood donors to be vaccinated, not with “Australia’s high vaccination rate”.
I may be wrong on that. I thought you had to be vaccinated, but I can’t find the details of it.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
you’re right, vaccine requirements are indeed consistent with a high vaccination rate
imagine if it was possible to require mask use to prevent transmission of a nasty disease
I’m pretty sure you will find you must wear a mask when you give blood. It’s a healthcare setting. Workers and patients wear masks.
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
you’re right, vaccine requirements are indeed consistent with a high vaccination rate
imagine if it was possible to require mask use to prevent transmission of a nasty disease
I’m pretty sure you will find you must wear a mask when you give blood. It’s a healthcare setting. Workers and patients wear masks.
yeah but donors have to be well so we wouldn’t really call them patients, and don’t they give you refreshments, surely the masks come off to refresh
sorry we should take our own advice and stick to SCIENCE rather than speculating in an evidence free zone
to that end we went hunting on our local internet for how donation looks like these days
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first hit
Our first new donor with the lifting of the ‘mad cow’ rule! Prof Matthew Law from the @KirbyInstitute donated at Town Hall in Sydney. He’ll be speaking to the modelling that informed the change at our press conference at 10.30am. Thanks for your donation Matthew!
oh dear
SCIENCE said:
sorry
hunting on our local internet for how donation looks like
first hit
oh dear
second response
Sharon, our centres are places of wellness and people who are unwell can’t donate blood. Donors aren’t required to wear masks at our permanent donor centres, although our staff are required to. You can learn more about the precautions we’re taking at https://bit.ly/3z9h39j. – KT
SCIENCE said:
fun fun fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FBaY5dxw1A
easy
read this nice guy
Deputy Premier Steven Miles has expressed his sympathies to the family of a toddler who passed away from COVID-19 on the weekend.
¿ cool, sympathies, but did they offer any ways to prevent more such tragedies ?
“And of course, our health workers who would have done everything that they could to take care of that child.”
and of course, did the government and community do everything they could to take care of people who might suffer from catching a nasty infectious disease
The researchers determined that the earliest Covid-19 cases were centered at the market among vendors who sold these live animals or people who shopped there. They believe that there were two separate viruses circulating in the animals that spilled over into people.
“All eight COVID-19 cases detected prior to 20 December were from the western side of the market, where mammal species were also sold,” the study says. The proximity to five stalls that sold live or recently butchered animals was predictive of human cases.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/26/health/wuhan-market-covid-19/index.html
dv said:
The researchers determined that the earliest Covid-19 cases were centered at the market among vendors who sold these live animals or people who shopped there. They believe that there were two separate viruses circulating in the animals that spilled over into people.
“All eight COVID-19 cases detected prior to 20 December were from the western side of the market, where mammal species were also sold,” the study says. The proximity to five stalls that sold live or recently butchered animals was predictive of human cases.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/26/health/wuhan-market-covid-19/index.html
and Your ABC, right on cue
But Matthew Aliota, a researcher in the college of veterinary medicine at the University of Minnesota, said in his mind the pair of studies “kind of puts to rest, hopefully, the lab leak hypothesis”.
yeah but how do we know those animals weren’t actually secret interstellar aliens in lamb clothing who have been running clandestine operations out of the WIV eh
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
The researchers determined that the earliest Covid-19 cases were centered at the market among vendors who sold these live animals or people who shopped there. They believe that there were two separate viruses circulating in the animals that spilled over into people.
“All eight COVID-19 cases detected prior to 20 December were from the western side of the market, where mammal species were also sold,” the study says. The proximity to five stalls that sold live or recently butchered animals was predictive of human cases.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/26/health/wuhan-market-covid-19/index.html
and Your ABC, right on cue
But Matthew Aliota, a researcher in the college of veterinary medicine at the University of Minnesota, said in his mind the pair of studies “kind of puts to rest, hopefully, the lab leak hypothesis”.
yeah but how do we know those animals weren’t actually secret interstellar aliens in lamb clothing who have been running clandestine operations out of the WIV eh
a person might assume there is a virus – a contagion – and it resulted in the deaths of nearer 15 million people to-date
the 6 million or whatever is bullshit, under-capture, under-measure, understatement
Its generally accepted that cv19 was a lab leak, the gain of function chain of information is added to virus to make it more infectious – it doesn’t exist in nature , it can only ever be man made.
wookiemeister said:
Its generally accepted that cv19 was a lab leak, the gain of function chain of information is added to virus to make it more infectious – it doesn’t exist in nature , it can only ever be man made.
wrong
wookiemeister said:
Its generally accepted that cv19 was a lab leak, the gain of function chain of information is added to virus to make it more infectious – it doesn’t exist in nature , it can only ever be man made.
Well, there goes all that ‘evolution’ stuff, right out the window.
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:
Its generally accepted that cv19 was a lab leak, the gain of function chain of information is added to virus to make it more infectious – it doesn’t exist in nature , it can only ever be man made.
Well, there goes all that ‘evolution’ stuff, right out the window.
The information found in the virus points to man made
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:
Its generally accepted that cv19 was a lab leak, the gain of function chain of information is added to virus to make it more infectious – it doesn’t exist in nature , it can only ever be man made.
Well, there goes all that ‘evolution’ stuff, right out the window.
actually you’re right we take back our negative reply and acknowledge that it was indeed man made, using the best incubators we’ve ever given it
strange
More childcare centres are operating without enough qualified early childhood teachers because of a worsening staff shortage that could undermine the federal government’s pledge to make childcare more affordable.
ahahahahahahaha this virus is such a success we mean a fail
https://theconversation.com/hair-loss-and-lower-libido-among-long-covid-symptoms-new-research-187504
some of the symptoms that we found to be strongly associated with COVID beyond 12 weeks were surprising and less well known, such as hair loss and reduced libido
Other symptoms included chest pain, fever, bowel incontinence, erectile dysfunction and limb swelling.
presumably no not that limb
so not only will this SARACAIDS-CoV Thin The Herd™, it will directly decrease reproductive rates of its hosts too
genius
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahaha this virus is such a success we mean a failhttps://theconversation.com/hair-loss-and-lower-libido-among-long-covid-symptoms-new-research-187504
some of the symptoms that we found to be strongly associated with COVID beyond 12 weeks were surprising and less well known, such as hair loss and reduced libido
Other symptoms included chest pain, fever, bowel incontinence, erectile dysfunction and limb swelling.
presumably no not that limb
so not only will this SARACAIDS-CoV Thin The Herd™, it will directly decrease reproductive rates of its hosts too
genius
It is not a limb, it is an appendage.
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
separate discussion, here is your ABC getting all communist
superpandemic is progressing well, leading cause of death now for australia, potential reinfection times of one month common enough to rate a mention as concerning
won’t be long and covid will be seeding clouds and being praised as a possible answer to global warming
just need a nuclear war now, famine, global economic collapse, everything be all peachy
Laugh Out Loud Oops
quick quick cover it up
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud Oops
quick quick cover it up
similar bullshit here, on the electric rectangle, few days now, seen it previous
transition said:
SCIENCE said:Laugh Out Loud Oops
quick quick cover it up
similar bullshit here, on the electric rectangle, few days now, seen it previous
lot of people are invested in fading the plague into the background, so everything might best as possible get back to normal
of course the reality might be that is very difficult to do, it has a persistence, it’s evolving, humans gave it plenty human petri dishes to evolve in – human hosts – not few but the entire human population and any animal population it might find a home in also
i’ve said it before, it’s a very radical thing to do, but that’s a secret, don’t tell anyone, mentioning the word radical doesn’t help make it normal, and fade
let the mass hoodoo continue
transition said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:Laugh Out Loud Oops
quick quick cover it up
similar bullshit here, on the electric rectangle, few days now, seen it previous
lot of people are invested in fading the plague into the background, so everything might best as possible get back to normal
of course the reality might be that is very difficult to do, it has a persistence, it’s evolving, humans gave it plenty human petri dishes to evolve in – human hosts – not few but the entire human population and any animal population it might find a home in also
i’ve said it before, it’s a very radical thing to do, but that’s a secret, don’t tell anyone, mentioning the word radical doesn’t help make it normal, and fade
let the mass hoodoo continue
“…..the entire human population…”
exception of course being china
you see the hoodoo’s working on me too
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Have the Kiwis decided to stop reporting deaths?
That’s 3 days in a row without one, which does appear to be a little surprising considering the number of cases.
sibeen said:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/Have the Kiwis decided to stop reporting deaths?
That’s 3 days in a row without one, which does appear to be a little surprising considering the number of cases.
reporting changed to deaths only directly caused by covid, is what am hearing…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-22/new-zealand-changes-the-way-covid-fatalities-are/13984582
transition said:
sibeen said:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/Have the Kiwis decided to stop reporting deaths?
That’s 3 days in a row without one, which does appear to be a little surprising considering the number of cases.
reporting changed to deaths only directly caused by covid, is what am hearing…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-22/new-zealand-changes-the-way-covid-fatalities-are/13984582
tighten that enough and eventually, given the virus itself doesn’t actually directly kill anyone, you could get really good numbers
transition said:
sibeen said:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/Have the Kiwis decided to stop reporting deaths?
That’s 3 days in a row without one, which does appear to be a little surprising considering the number of cases.
reporting changed to deaths only directly caused by covid, is what am hearing…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-22/new-zealand-changes-the-way-covid-fatalities-are/13984582
Ta
sibeen said:
transition said:
sibeen said:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/Have the Kiwis decided to stop reporting deaths?
That’s 3 days in a row without one, which does appear to be a little surprising considering the number of cases.
reporting changed to deaths only directly caused by covid, is what am hearing…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-22/new-zealand-changes-the-way-covid-fatalities-are/13984582
Ta
the hoodoo possibly works by making doctors very timid about putting covid as cause on the certificate or whatever, potential disputes etc
dunno, you can assume there’s hoodoo fairly safely, the human world turns on it
transition said:
reporting changed to deaths only directly caused by covid, is what am hearing…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-22/new-zealand-changes-the-way-covid-fatalities-are/13984582
Ahhhhh….. So that’s the underlying rate, or is it the seasonally adjusted rate, allowing for external amortisations?
sibeen said:
> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
> Have the Kiwis decided to stop reporting deaths?
> That’s 3 days in a row without one, which does appear to be a little surprising considering the number of cases.
From ourworldindata, the answer is that NZ data is not up to date, for either cases or deaths.
They reported on 24 July and not on the 25th or 26th.
The UK has been reporting only once a week for quite a while.
The USA only reports 5 days a week.
mollwollfumble said:
sibeen said:> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
> Have the Kiwis decided to stop reporting deaths?
> That’s 3 days in a row without one, which does appear to be a little surprising considering the number of cases.From ourworldindata, the answer is that NZ data is not up to date, for either cases or deaths.
They reported on 24 July and not on the 25th or 26th.The UK has been reporting only once a week for quite a while.
The USA only reports 5 days a week.
Maybe the Kiwis are all dead, and there’s no-one left to file the reports.
captain_spalding said:
mollwollfumble said:
sibeen said:> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
> Have the Kiwis decided to stop reporting deaths?
> That’s 3 days in a row without one, which does appear to be a little surprising considering the number of cases.From ourworldindata, the answer is that NZ data is not up to date, for either cases or deaths.
They reported on 24 July and not on the 25th or 26th.The UK has been reporting only once a week for quite a while.
The USA only reports 5 days a week.Maybe the Kiwis are all dead, and there’s no-one left to file the reports.
transition said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:Laugh Out Loud Oops
quick quick cover it up
similar bullshit here, on the electric rectangle, few days now, seen it previous
lot of people are invested in fading the plague into the background, so everything might best as possible get back to normal
of course the reality might be that is very difficult to do, it has a persistence, it’s evolving, humans gave it plenty human petri dishes to evolve in – human hosts – not few but the entire human population and any animal population it might find a home in also
i’ve said it before, it’s a very radical thing to do, but that’s a secret, don’t tell anyone, mentioning the word radical doesn’t help make it normal, and fade
let the mass hoodoo continue
This virus is not doing what it is being told.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
fun fun fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FBaY5dxw1A
easy
read this nice guy
Deputy Premier Steven Miles has expressed his sympathies to the family of a toddler who passed away from COVID-19 on the weekend.
¿ cool, sympathies, but did they offer any ways to prevent more such tragedies ?
“And of course, our health workers who would have done everything that they could to take care of that child.”
and of course, did the government and community do everything they could to take care of people who might suffer from catching a nasty infectious disease
sigh
Something else to give you a laugh SCIENCE.
NSW Health data shows more than 20,000 people have been reinfected with COVID-19 this year
More than 20,000 people in NSW who had COVID-19 in January have been reinfected, the first analysis of reinfection data shows.
NSW Health looked at data from 639,430 people infected with COVID for the first time in January when the Omicron wave took off.
The analysis was done by matching the name, and date of birth, of cases.
It showed that within five months, 20,460 people, or 3.2 per cent, had been reinfected.
Reinfection was defined as a positive test four weeks after being released from seven-day isolation, or 36 days after testing positive.
And there is more:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-28/20000-nsw-residents-had-covid-twice-in-2022/101277570
Japan tops global COVID chart, dimming reopening hopes
Biggest wave of infections yet putting pressure on health care system
SHOICHIRO TAGUCHI, Nikkei staff writer
July 27, 2022 16:57 JST
TOKYO — Japan now has the most daily COVID cases of any other nation, a dubious distinction that is casting a shadow over hopes the country will relax its strict border controls.
On Tuesday, 196,000 new cases were confirmed nationwide, the second-highest level on record, putting Japan ahead of the U.S. and Germany. On a per capita basis, the nation ranks 9th, behind countries such as Singapore and Australia, according to Our World In Data.
Before the recent surge, Japan had stricter border measures than most other countries. It only allows tourists to enter on guided package tours, for example, and caps the number of daily visitors at 20,000. This is much lower than the daily average of about 140,000 people who entered the county before the pandemic hit in 2019.
A government COVID task force says the sharp increase in cases is largely due to the highly contagious, yet less deadly, BA.5 omicron subvariant. Although more than 60% of Japanese have been triple vaccinated, infections may be rising because it has been a long time since many people had their last shot.
Despite the spread of the highly contagious variant, people are tiring of adapting their behavior to the pandemic. A recent online survey of 1,100 people by the Japan Productivity Center showed the proportion of respondents working from home or away from work was just 16%, the lowest figure since surveys began in May 2020. As more people come into contact with one another, the risk of infection increases.
While the BA.5 variant causes serious illness in relatively few cases, due in part to vaccination, the rapid increase in infections is putting pressure on Japan’s health care system.
In Tokyo, around 50% of hospital beds are full. And the situation is becoming more serious in rural areas, where the health care system is more fragile. In Shizuoka Prefecture, Gov. Heita Kawakatsu told reporters on Tuesday that “the normal medical system is being affected,” and urged residents to refrain from using emergency rooms on holidays and at night if they have mild symptoms.
The situation could worsen as Japan enters the summer vacation season and more people travel domestically. JR Group companies have announced that reservations for shinkansen bullet trains for the week of Aug. 10-17 period totaled 1.4 million, about 2.8 times more than the same time last year.
Despite the rise in COVID cases, the central government has not imposed restrictions on social activity or stricter border measures.
However, “as long as the domestic situation is not under control, it is difficult to foresee further relaxation of border measures,” said Shinichi Nishioka, chief economist at the Japan Research Institute.
“We should have already reached the phase where border restrictions are further eased and tourists allowed in,” Nishoka said. But, he added, Japan is still struggling to balance national sentiment about the trade-off between the number of new cases and constraints on economic activity.
The good news may be that the current wave of cases is likely to peak soon. A group of professors at the Nagoya Institute of Technology used artificial intelligence to forecast the number of new cases based on past trends, vaccine effectiveness, and human flow data. Based on the assumption that the infectivity of BA.5 is 1.3 times higher than BA.2, they predicted the number of new cases in the city of Tokyo is expected to reach its peak on Aug. 6 at around 39,000 people, compared with 31,593 on Tuesday.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Japan-tops-global-COVID-chart-dimming-reopening-hopes?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Japan tops global COVID chart, dimming reopening hopes
Biggest wave of infections yet putting pressure on health care systemSHOICHIRO TAGUCHI, Nikkei staff writer
July 27, 2022 16:57 JSTTOKYO — Japan now has the most daily COVID cases of any other nation, a dubious distinction that is casting a shadow over hopes the country will relax its strict border controls.
On Tuesday, 196,000 new cases were confirmed nationwide, the second-highest level on record, putting Japan ahead of the U.S. and Germany. On a per capita basis, the nation ranks 9th, behind countries such as Singapore and Australia, according to Our World In Data.
Before the recent surge, Japan had stricter border measures than most other countries. It only allows tourists to enter on guided package tours, for example, and caps the number of daily visitors at 20,000. This is much lower than the daily average of about 140,000 people who entered the county before the pandemic hit in 2019.
A government COVID task force says the sharp increase in cases is largely due to the highly contagious, yet less deadly, BA.5 omicron subvariant. Although more than 60% of Japanese have been triple vaccinated, infections may be rising because it has been a long time since many people had their last shot.
Despite the spread of the highly contagious variant, people are tiring of adapting their behavior to the pandemic. A recent online survey of 1,100 people by the Japan Productivity Center showed the proportion of respondents working from home or away from work was just 16%, the lowest figure since surveys began in May 2020. As more people come into contact with one another, the risk of infection increases.
While the BA.5 variant causes serious illness in relatively few cases, due in part to vaccination, the rapid increase in infections is putting pressure on Japan’s health care system.
In Tokyo, around 50% of hospital beds are full. And the situation is becoming more serious in rural areas, where the health care system is more fragile. In Shizuoka Prefecture, Gov. Heita Kawakatsu told reporters on Tuesday that “the normal medical system is being affected,” and urged residents to refrain from using emergency rooms on holidays and at night if they have mild symptoms.
The situation could worsen as Japan enters the summer vacation season and more people travel domestically. JR Group companies have announced that reservations for shinkansen bullet trains for the week of Aug. 10-17 period totaled 1.4 million, about 2.8 times more than the same time last year.
Despite the rise in COVID cases, the central government has not imposed restrictions on social activity or stricter border measures.
However, “as long as the domestic situation is not under control, it is difficult to foresee further relaxation of border measures,” said Shinichi Nishioka, chief economist at the Japan Research Institute.
“We should have already reached the phase where border restrictions are further eased and tourists allowed in,” Nishoka said. But, he added, Japan is still struggling to balance national sentiment about the trade-off between the number of new cases and constraints on economic activity.
The good news may be that the current wave of cases is likely to peak soon. A group of professors at the Nagoya Institute of Technology used artificial intelligence to forecast the number of new cases based on past trends, vaccine effectiveness, and human flow data. Based on the assumption that the infectivity of BA.5 is 1.3 times higher than BA.2, they predicted the number of new cases in the city of Tokyo is expected to reach its peak on Aug. 6 at around 39,000 people, compared with 31,593 on Tuesday.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Japan-tops-global-COVID-chart-dimming-reopening-hopes?
Looks like Sweden got it right in the first place?
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Japan tops global COVID chart, dimming reopening hopes
Biggest wave of infections yet putting pressure on health care systemSHOICHIRO TAGUCHI, Nikkei staff writer
July 27, 2022 16:57 JSTTOKYO — Japan now has the most daily COVID cases of any other nation, a dubious distinction that is casting a shadow over hopes the country will relax its strict border controls.
On Tuesday, 196,000 new cases were confirmed nationwide, the second-highest level on record, putting Japan ahead of the U.S. and Germany. On a per capita basis, the nation ranks 9th, behind countries such as Singapore and Australia, according to Our World In Data.
Before the recent surge, Japan had stricter border measures than most other countries. It only allows tourists to enter on guided package tours, for example, and caps the number of daily visitors at 20,000. This is much lower than the daily average of about 140,000 people who entered the county before the pandemic hit in 2019.
A government COVID task force says the sharp increase in cases is largely due to the highly contagious, yet less deadly, BA.5 omicron subvariant. Although more than 60% of Japanese have been triple vaccinated, infections may be rising because it has been a long time since many people had their last shot.
Despite the spread of the highly contagious variant, people are tiring of adapting their behavior to the pandemic. A recent online survey of 1,100 people by the Japan Productivity Center showed the proportion of respondents working from home or away from work was just 16%, the lowest figure since surveys began in May 2020. As more people come into contact with one another, the risk of infection increases.
While the BA.5 variant causes serious illness in relatively few cases, due in part to vaccination, the rapid increase in infections is putting pressure on Japan’s health care system.
In Tokyo, around 50% of hospital beds are full. And the situation is becoming more serious in rural areas, where the health care system is more fragile. In Shizuoka Prefecture, Gov. Heita Kawakatsu told reporters on Tuesday that “the normal medical system is being affected,” and urged residents to refrain from using emergency rooms on holidays and at night if they have mild symptoms.
The situation could worsen as Japan enters the summer vacation season and more people travel domestically. JR Group companies have announced that reservations for shinkansen bullet trains for the week of Aug. 10-17 period totaled 1.4 million, about 2.8 times more than the same time last year.
Despite the rise in COVID cases, the central government has not imposed restrictions on social activity or stricter border measures.
However, “as long as the domestic situation is not under control, it is difficult to foresee further relaxation of border measures,” said Shinichi Nishioka, chief economist at the Japan Research Institute.
“We should have already reached the phase where border restrictions are further eased and tourists allowed in,” Nishoka said. But, he added, Japan is still struggling to balance national sentiment about the trade-off between the number of new cases and constraints on economic activity.
The good news may be that the current wave of cases is likely to peak soon. A group of professors at the Nagoya Institute of Technology used artificial intelligence to forecast the number of new cases based on past trends, vaccine effectiveness, and human flow data. Based on the assumption that the infectivity of BA.5 is 1.3 times higher than BA.2, they predicted the number of new cases in the city of Tokyo is expected to reach its peak on Aug. 6 at around 39,000 people, compared with 31,593 on Tuesday.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Japan-tops-global-COVID-chart-dimming-reopening-hopes?
Looks like Sweden got it right in the first place?
More Buffy’s purview. I think in deaths per capita Sweden still tops Australia, NZ, Singapore, Japan etc
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Japan tops global COVID chart, dimming reopening hopes
Biggest wave of infections yet putting pressure on health care systemSHOICHIRO TAGUCHI, Nikkei staff writer
July 27, 2022 16:57 JSTTOKYO — Japan now has the most daily COVID cases of any other nation, a dubious distinction that is casting a shadow over hopes the country will relax its strict border controls.
On Tuesday, 196,000 new cases were confirmed nationwide, the second-highest level on record, putting Japan ahead of the U.S. and Germany. On a per capita basis, the nation ranks 9th, behind countries such as Singapore and Australia, according to Our World In Data.
Before the recent surge, Japan had stricter border measures than most other countries. It only allows tourists to enter on guided package tours, for example, and caps the number of daily visitors at 20,000. This is much lower than the daily average of about 140,000 people who entered the county before the pandemic hit in 2019.
A government COVID task force says the sharp increase in cases is largely due to the highly contagious, yet less deadly, BA.5 omicron subvariant. Although more than 60% of Japanese have been triple vaccinated, infections may be rising because it has been a long time since many people had their last shot.
Despite the spread of the highly contagious variant, people are tiring of adapting their behavior to the pandemic. A recent online survey of 1,100 people by the Japan Productivity Center showed the proportion of respondents working from home or away from work was just 16%, the lowest figure since surveys began in May 2020. As more people come into contact with one another, the risk of infection increases.
While the BA.5 variant causes serious illness in relatively few cases, due in part to vaccination, the rapid increase in infections is putting pressure on Japan’s health care system.
In Tokyo, around 50% of hospital beds are full. And the situation is becoming more serious in rural areas, where the health care system is more fragile. In Shizuoka Prefecture, Gov. Heita Kawakatsu told reporters on Tuesday that “the normal medical system is being affected,” and urged residents to refrain from using emergency rooms on holidays and at night if they have mild symptoms.
The situation could worsen as Japan enters the summer vacation season and more people travel domestically. JR Group companies have announced that reservations for shinkansen bullet trains for the week of Aug. 10-17 period totaled 1.4 million, about 2.8 times more than the same time last year.
Despite the rise in COVID cases, the central government has not imposed restrictions on social activity or stricter border measures.
However, “as long as the domestic situation is not under control, it is difficult to foresee further relaxation of border measures,” said Shinichi Nishioka, chief economist at the Japan Research Institute.
“We should have already reached the phase where border restrictions are further eased and tourists allowed in,” Nishoka said. But, he added, Japan is still struggling to balance national sentiment about the trade-off between the number of new cases and constraints on economic activity.
The good news may be that the current wave of cases is likely to peak soon. A group of professors at the Nagoya Institute of Technology used artificial intelligence to forecast the number of new cases based on past trends, vaccine effectiveness, and human flow data. Based on the assumption that the infectivity of BA.5 is 1.3 times higher than BA.2, they predicted the number of new cases in the city of Tokyo is expected to reach its peak on Aug. 6 at around 39,000 people, compared with 31,593 on Tuesday.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Japan-tops-global-COVID-chart-dimming-reopening-hopes?
Looks like Sweden got it right in the first place?
More Buffy’s purview. I think in deaths per capita Sweden still tops Australia, NZ, Singapore, Japan etc
Easily.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Japan-tops-global-COVID-chart-dimming-reopening-hopes said:
due to the highly contagious, yet less deadly, BA.5 omicron
Ebola Haemorrhagic Fever is less deadly
Witty Rejoinder said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Japan tops global COVID chart, dimming reopening hopes
Biggest wave of infections yet putting pressure on health care systemSHOICHIRO TAGUCHI, Nikkei staff writer
July 27, 2022 16:57 JSTTOKYO — Japan now has the most daily COVID cases of any other nation, a dubious distinction that is casting a shadow over hopes the country will relax its strict border controls.
On Tuesday, 196,000 new cases were confirmed nationwide, the second-highest level on record, putting Japan ahead of the U.S. and Germany. On a per capita basis, the nation ranks 9th, behind countries such as Singapore and Australia, according to Our World In Data.
Before the recent surge, Japan had stricter border measures than most other countries. It only allows tourists to enter on guided package tours, for example, and caps the number of daily visitors at 20,000. This is much lower than the daily average of about 140,000 people who entered the county before the pandemic hit in 2019.
A government COVID task force says the sharp increase in cases is largely due to the highly contagious, yet less deadly, BA.5 omicron subvariant. Although more than 60% of Japanese have been triple vaccinated, infections may be rising because it has been a long time since many people had their last shot.
Despite the spread of the highly contagious variant, people are tiring of adapting their behavior to the pandemic. A recent online survey of 1,100 people by the Japan Productivity Center showed the proportion of respondents working from home or away from work was just 16%, the lowest figure since surveys began in May 2020. As more people come into contact with one another, the risk of infection increases.
While the BA.5 variant causes serious illness in relatively few cases, due in part to vaccination, the rapid increase in infections is putting pressure on Japan’s health care system.
In Tokyo, around 50% of hospital beds are full. And the situation is becoming more serious in rural areas, where the health care system is more fragile. In Shizuoka Prefecture, Gov. Heita Kawakatsu told reporters on Tuesday that “the normal medical system is being affected,” and urged residents to refrain from using emergency rooms on holidays and at night if they have mild symptoms.
The situation could worsen as Japan enters the summer vacation season and more people travel domestically. JR Group companies have announced that reservations for shinkansen bullet trains for the week of Aug. 10-17 period totaled 1.4 million, about 2.8 times more than the same time last year.
Despite the rise in COVID cases, the central government has not imposed restrictions on social activity or stricter border measures.
However, “as long as the domestic situation is not under control, it is difficult to foresee further relaxation of border measures,” said Shinichi Nishioka, chief economist at the Japan Research Institute.
“We should have already reached the phase where border restrictions are further eased and tourists allowed in,” Nishoka said. But, he added, Japan is still struggling to balance national sentiment about the trade-off between the number of new cases and constraints on economic activity.
The good news may be that the current wave of cases is likely to peak soon. A group of professors at the Nagoya Institute of Technology used artificial intelligence to forecast the number of new cases based on past trends, vaccine effectiveness, and human flow data. Based on the assumption that the infectivity of BA.5 is 1.3 times higher than BA.2, they predicted the number of new cases in the city of Tokyo is expected to reach its peak on Aug. 6 at around 39,000 people, compared with 31,593 on Tuesday.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Japan-tops-global-COVID-chart-dimming-reopening-hopes?
Looks like Sweden got it right in the first place?
More Buffy’s purview. I think in deaths per capita Sweden still tops Australia, NZ, Singapore, Japan etc
They are still sitting around number 55 on the deaths per million (Worldometer) and Australia is at 133. I’ve given up trying to follow a lot of the stats, it’s very unclear which countries are still counting and how. As shown by the apparent change with NZ reported today. Without looking up every country’s guidelines, there isn’t much way to tell if apples are being compared to apples or apples are being compared to hippopotamuses hoofs.
oops
must have been anecdotallie
another anecdotallie
(JUNEAU, Alaska) – The M/V Tustumena is docked at Homer, Alaska today, July 26, to rest the crew for several days. A critical crew shortage required the vessel to stay in port for safety reasons. Sailings between Homer and Kodiak have been cancelled until Saturday, July 30, 2022.
The ship has been operating with a small but dedicated group of sailors in southwest Alaska since July 16. Due to insufficient numbers of replacement staff, the ship has not been able to backfill essential positions that are vacant due to illness or other qualifying needs. Staffing shortages have been a concern nationally and throughout the Alaska Marine Highway System (AMHS).
Since early 2022, DOT&PF has embarked on an aggressive hiring campaign to recruit workers. The department is employing head hunters, participating in job fairs across Alaska and Washington, and offering $5,000 signing bonuses to attract new crew members.
People interested in working for the marine highway are encouraged to check the AMHS hiring page at dot.alaska.gov/amhs/employment.shtml.
DOT&PF will update the ship’s return to service schedule via a press release and social media in the upcoming days.
The Alaska Department of Transportation and Public Facilities oversees 237 airports, 9 ferries serving 33 communities along 3,500 marine miles, over 5,600 miles of highway and 839 public facilities throughout the state of Alaska. The mission of the department is to “Keep Alaska Moving through service and infrastructure.”
if pandemic so serious then why so-called doctors (“experts”) joking
…
apparently the tell that the masks are staged is that they’re stuffed on over the spectacles and not wirefolded over the noses
also why are our leaders shilling for BP again oh wait
wait up
lies, school is compulsory, attendance is 100%
SCIENCE said:
wait up
lies, school is compulsory, attendance is 100%
Are you saying that there is no truancy?
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roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
wait up
lies, school is compulsory, attendance is 100%
Are you saying that there is no truancy?
if you don’t test then you don’t have cases
so are we all good now
¿
As an immunologist with four decades of research on antibodies under my belt, I always felt like I had a pretty good handle on COVID-19. But when I caught the virus in May, my hubris quickly turned into humility. COVID-19 left me with a serious heart complication that occurs in 2 per cent of infected people, with the risk not diminished by immunisation or prior infection.
or is anyone else promoting a roll of the dice die oops sorry wrong strike hrough
https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2022-07-29/covid-19-three-myths-challenge-lies-ahead/101274980
SCIENCE said:
so are we all good now¿
As an immunologist with four decades of research on antibodies under my belt, I always felt like I had a pretty good handle on COVID-19. But when I caught the virus in May, my hubris quickly turned into humility. COVID-19 left me with a serious heart complication that occurs in 2 per cent of infected people, with the risk not diminished by immunisation or prior infection.
or is anyone else promoting
a roll of the dicedie oops sorry wrong strike hroughhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2022-07-29/covid-19-three-myths-challenge-lies-ahead/101274980
all makes for a nice distraction from the underlying social reality that there were people intentionally undermining a good go at dynamic zero
the ‘travelers’ were happy for more than a few causalities, and they’ll deploy any device to ‘patch’ the present reality
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
so are we all good now¿
As an immunologist with four decades of research on antibodies under my belt, I always felt like I had a pretty good handle on COVID-19. But when I caught the virus in May, my hubris quickly turned into humility. COVID-19 left me with a serious heart complication that occurs in 2 per cent of infected people, with the risk not diminished by immunisation or prior infection.
or is anyone else promoting
a roll of the dicedie oops sorry wrong strike hroughhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2022-07-29/covid-19-three-myths-challenge-lies-ahead/101274980
all makes for a nice distraction from the underlying social reality that there were people intentionally undermining a good go at dynamic zero
the ‘travelers’ were happy for more than a few causalities, and they’ll deploy any device to ‘patch’ the present reality
make that casualties, it’s early
transition said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
so are we all good now¿
As an immunologist with four decades of research on antibodies under my belt, I always felt like I had a pretty good handle on COVID-19. But when I caught the virus in May, my hubris quickly turned into humility. COVID-19 left me with a serious heart complication that occurs in 2 per cent of infected people, with the risk not diminished by immunisation or prior infection.
or is anyone else promoting
a roll of the dicedie oops sorry wrong strike hroughhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2022-07-29/covid-19-three-myths-challenge-lies-ahead/101274980
all makes for a nice distraction from the underlying social reality that there were people intentionally undermining a good go at dynamic zero
the ‘travelers’ were happy for more than a few causalities, and they’ll deploy any device to ‘patch’ the present reality
make that casualties, it’s early
the uncomfortable reality, the inconvenient reality can be answered in response to the following proposition
did humans turn the covid pandemic into a superpandemic
avoid saying yes is fairly clear evidence of resistance to reality, and variously deception, self-deception and more broadly group deception, universal deception really, global deception
QUEENSLAND PATCH VACCINE MORE THAN 10 TIMES BETTER.
needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times better at combating COVID-19 variants than traditional jabs, according to researchers in Queensland.
Researchers say a needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times more effective than traditional COVID jabs.
© PR HANDOUT IMAGE PHOTO
Researchers say a needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times more effective than traditional COVID jabs.
Brisbane biotech company Vaxxas and University of Queensland researchers tested the vaccine patches on mice, and found they were far more effective against COVID-19 variants.
The vaccine patch is a higher-density microarray, known as Hexapro, and counteracts new variants like Omicron and Delta by delivering the vaccine to layers of skin rich in immune cells.
“We found that vaccination via a patch was approximately 11 times more effective at combating the Omicron variant when compared with the same vaccine administered via a needle,” UQ’s Dr Christopher McMillan said.
Peak Warming Man said:
QUEENSLAND PATCH VACCINE MORE THAN 10 TIMES BETTER.needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times better at combating COVID-19 variants than traditional jabs, according to researchers in Queensland.
Researchers say a needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times more effective than traditional COVID jabs.
© PR HANDOUT IMAGE PHOTO
Researchers say a needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times more effective than traditional COVID jabs.
Brisbane biotech company Vaxxas and University of Queensland researchers tested the vaccine patches on mice, and found they were far more effective against COVID-19 variants.
Oh, NOW they tell us.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
QUEENSLAND PATCH VACCINE MORE THAN 10 TIMES BETTER.needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times better at combating COVID-19 variants than traditional jabs, according to researchers in Queensland.
Researchers say a needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times more effective than traditional COVID jabs.
© PR HANDOUT IMAGE PHOTO
Researchers say a needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times more effective than traditional COVID jabs.
Brisbane biotech company Vaxxas and University of Queensland researchers tested the vaccine patches on mice, and found they were far more effective against COVID-19 variants.Oh, NOW they tell us.
that could be good news, so long as two years later 5% of users aren’t having heart attacks or something
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
QUEENSLAND PATCH VACCINE MORE THAN 10 TIMES BETTER.
needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times better at combating COVID-19 variants than traditional jabs, according to researchers in Queensland.
Researchers say a needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times more effective than traditional COVID jabs.
© PR HANDOUT IMAGE PHOTO
Researchers say a needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times more effective than traditional COVID jabs.
Brisbane biotech company Vaxxas and University of Queensland researchers tested the vaccine patches on mice, and found they were far more effective against COVID-19 variants.Oh, NOW they tell us.
all right let us guess the little known secret is that the patch microstructure is very similar to a P2 respirator and only works while the patch is well sealed over nose and mouth
Australia’s COVID response was one of the best in the world at first. Why do we rank so poorly now?
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101277358
Witty Rejoinder said:
Australia’s COVID response was one of the best in the world at first. Why do we rank so poorly now?https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101277358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN6BFyzjTkU
How and when will the COVID pandemic end? | ABC News
Peak Warming Man said:
QUEENSLAND PATCH VACCINE MORE THAN 10 TIMES BETTER.needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times better at combating COVID-19 variants than traditional jabs, according to researchers in Queensland.
Researchers say a needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times more effective than traditional COVID jabs.
© PR HANDOUT IMAGE PHOTO
Researchers say a needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times more effective than traditional COVID jabs.
Brisbane biotech company Vaxxas and University of Queensland researchers tested the vaccine patches on mice, and found they were far more effective against COVID-19 variants.The vaccine patch is a higher-density microarray, known as Hexapro, and counteracts new variants like Omicron and Delta by delivering the vaccine to layers of skin rich in immune cells.
“We found that vaccination via a patch was approximately 11 times more effective at combating the Omicron variant when compared with the same vaccine administered via a needle,” UQ’s Dr Christopher McMillan said.
wookiemeister said:
Peak Warming Man said:
QUEENSLAND PATCH VACCINE MORE THAN 10 TIMES BETTER.needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times better at combating COVID-19 variants than traditional jabs, according to researchers in Queensland.
Researchers say a needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times more effective than traditional COVID jabs.
© PR HANDOUT IMAGE PHOTO
Researchers say a needle-free vaccine patch is 11 times more effective than traditional COVID jabs.
Brisbane biotech company Vaxxas and University of Queensland researchers tested the vaccine patches on mice, and found they were far more effective against COVID-19 variants.The vaccine patch is a higher-density microarray, known as Hexapro, and counteracts new variants like Omicron and Delta by delivering the vaccine to layers of skin rich in immune cells.
“We found that vaccination via a patch was approximately 11 times more effective at combating the Omicron variant when compared with the same vaccine administered via a needle,” UQ’s Dr Christopher McMillan said.
And no doubt much faster with less waste.
so-called “expert” merely shilling for CHINA yet again
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2022/07/30/hope-denial-and-covid-19
Like it or not, we face a future that will never again look like 2019. The sooner we accept that and adapt, the better off we will be. Looking ahead a decade or two, Covid may be the defining event that tipped the balance of power globally between the US and China.
Laugh Out Loud
https://www.today.com/health/health/symptoms-long-covid-kids-crushing-fatigue-dizziness-rcna37112
The actual number of kids with long COVID is staggering, says Dr. Alicia Johnston, co-director of Boston Children’s post-COVID clinic.
serious question why are they keeping them
oh wait
guess once it’s evolved to not even lead to immunity, there’s no further need to evade nonexistent immunity hey
SCIENCE said:
Laugh Out Loud
imagine pandemic progress so twisted that the fucking business lobby is now the one pushing for masking
However, CEO of the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry Andrew McKellar told the panel he believed mask use would be “one of the highest potential returns on investment to protect the community”. “We don’t want to get into a situation where the pressure on the health system does become unsustainable; where we end up having to go back into more restrictive measures,” he said. “Ultimately, I don’t think impacts anybody to wear a mask to come into a shop, but if you can’t actually go to the shop, I think that’s a much bigger restriction.”
What
The
Fuck
I see the Kiwis have started to report deaths again.
We ONLY had 157 reported today – so nothing to see here.
I’ll admit to be fucking angry with Dan Andrews over this. It’s fucking cowardice of the highest order. Mandate wearing of masks, you fucking idiot.
sibeen said:
I see the Kiwis have started to report deaths again.We ONLY had 157 reported today – so nothing to see here.
I’ll admit to be fucking angry with Dan Andrews over this. It’s fucking cowardice of the highest order. Mandate wearing of masks, you fucking idiot.
Seems a simple thing to do
dv said:
sibeen said:
I see the Kiwis have started to report deaths again.We ONLY had 157 reported today – so nothing to see here.
I’ll admit to be fucking angry with Dan Andrews over this. It’s fucking cowardice of the highest order. Mandate wearing of masks, you fucking idiot.
Seems a simple thing to do
dv said:
sibeen said:
I see the Kiwis have started to report deaths again.We ONLY had 157 reported today – so nothing to see here.
I’ll admit to be fucking angry with Dan Andrews over this. It’s fucking cowardice of the highest order. Mandate wearing of masks, you fucking idiot.
Seems a simple thing to do
Yeah. I still wear a mask in the shops, and at work.
We have had the odd one or two people who say that seeing people in masks triggers their PTSD or similar. But I don’t think that is a valid argument against the greater public health benefits of mask weardom.
party_pants said:
the odd one or two people who say that seeing people in masks triggers their PTSD or similar
are these the same dudes who tell us that anyone with a preexisting condition or otherwise clinically vulnerable should just stay home and isolated forever so that everyone else can get on with life or back to normal or some other thought stopping cliché
party_pants said:
dv said:
sibeen said:
I see the Kiwis have started to report deaths again.We ONLY had 157 reported today – so nothing to see here.
I’ll admit to be fucking angry with Dan Andrews over this. It’s fucking cowardice of the highest order. Mandate wearing of masks, you fucking idiot.
Seems a simple thing to do
Yeah. I still wear a mask in the shops, and at work.
We have had the odd one or two people who say that seeing people in masks triggers their PTSD or similar. But I don’t think that is a valid argument against the greater public health benefits of mask weardom.
lady can’t wear N95, she’s has the claustrophobic responses more broadly and to that, so only wears the minimal cloth masks, they are fairly useless really, I can see in the side to her mouth regularly
still she wears it into the shop, wasn’t for a while, we got another dose of plague, may have done three or four trips the shop without, but the attention to hand contact transmission tends to get relaxed with masks, so who knows
reckon we had our third dose covid, still recovering from that
so possibly had it three times in nearing five months, I wouldn’t rush out and get it, not recommend that
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/every-covid-death-is-tragic-but-do-the-australian-numbers-add-up/ar-AA100sRg
is that another dodgy blitz of numbers I wonder, so that perspectives might converge?
in answer to the speculated anomaly
yes, there is competition globally to fade the casualties into the background, normalize it, saves the embarrassment of acknowledging the species has created a superpandemic, of which i’d suggest the item is part of
just an opinion
I’ve not finished reading this yet. But the provisional mortality stats for Australia for this year were updated yesterday. They now cover January to April, with deaths reported up to June 30th for that period. There will be a few straggler reports come in before the next update, which will take the period covered up to May.
Here is the general report, and a short cut and paste from it:
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/jan-apr-2022#covid-19-mortality
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Deaths due to dementia including Alzheimer’s disease were 20.7% above the baseline average in April, and 20.4% above the baseline average for the year to April. The age standardised death rate for April was 3.5 per 100,000 people, compared to a baseline average rate of 3.2.
Deaths due to cancer were 4.7% above the baseline average in April, to be 5.7% above the baseline average for the year to April. The age standardised rate for April (11.7 per 100,000 people) was slightly below the baseline average rate of 12.3.
Deaths due to diabetes remained 10.3% above average in April, and were 18.9% higher than the baseline average for the year to April.
The first influenza death for 2022 occurred during April. The baseline average number of influenza deaths for April is 21, and the average for the year to April is 55.
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Bear in mind how the baseline averages have been calculated. Particularly as 2020 has been taken out of the calculations because deaths were lower than expected. I was a little surprised to read that, but I’m not a statistician.
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“Throughout this report, counts of deaths are compared to an average number of deaths for previous years. In this report, data for 2021 is compared to an average number of deaths recorded over the 5 years from 2015-2019 as was the case in previous publications. Data for 2022 is compared to a baseline comprising the years 2017-2019 and 2021. 2020 is not included in the baseline for 2022 data because it included periods where numbers of deaths were significantly lower than expected. Counts of deaths for 2015-2021 are included in the baseline datacubes of the data downloads section of this report. “
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And here is the COVID deaths report.
https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/covid-19-mortality-australia-deaths-registered-until-30-june-2022
We Knew It ¡ All This Fake COVID-19 Shit Was Just About Covering Up Increased Deaths From All Other Causes That Somehow Only Started This Past Couple Of Years ¡
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serious question why are they keeping them
advertising worldist credentials, in some ways probably worse, previously it was more just the money talking, internationalist influence that way, now it shifts more to activism
so not just the trillion dollar debt variously clawing back structure for returns to make the hoodoo work, but activism also so the we might all share in the same troubles, no matter where you are on the planet
there will be little difference wherever you land, or you might want invest money, even the vices will converge
things are so bad some are even using language about monkeypox that invites it, conceptualizing it in such a way that invites it, totally oblivious apparently, though some certainly are not oblivious
it’s 1984
it really is so bad that now, to avoid potential prejudice and stigma around monekypox it will need be spread among the hetero community, attain broader transmission among the rest of the community to eliminate any possibility of prejudice
there’s a dimension of activism that way
it could be that to stop foot and mouth entering Australia might involve prejudice against Indonesians, made to be seen so, things are that ridiculous with the program of disease internationalization, shall I say ‘equality’ that way (facetiously intended)
and having to stay home from school, fuck, that causes PTSD worse than even being napalmed.
“Even a mild case of COVID-19 can increase a person’s risk of cardiovascular problems for at least a year after diagnosis, a new study shows. Researchers found that rates of many conditions, such as heart failure and stroke, were substantially higher in people who had recovered from COVID-19 than in similar people who hadn’t had the disease.
What’s more, the risk was elevated even for those who were under 65 years of age and lacked risk factors, such as obesity or diabetes.”
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00403-0
oh forget it
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
in breaking news, SARACAIDS-CoV appears to also cause coronary artery thrombosis, pancreatic failure, and cerebral atrophy
You’re just full of good news, ain’t yer?
Please Do Shoot Us, We’re Just The Messenger
Ribonucleic Acid Vaccinesbut seriously, once we get through this little section of project, we’ll link everyone in to the fun references we’ve been reading about all those nice pleasant side effects that come with* natural immunity
*: for values of “with” approaching “without”, since as we(1,1,1) all know, the natural immunity period is now under 28 days
here’s an instalment and there’s plenty of others to come
https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1004052
In this study, we found that CVD was increased early after COVID-19 mainly from pulmonary embolism, atrial arrhythmias, and venous thromboses. DM incidence remained elevated for at least 12 weeks following COVID-19 before declining. People without preexisting CVD or DM who suffer from COVID-19 do not appear to have a long-term increase in incidence of these conditions.
- Acute COVID-19 is associated with increased risk of cardiovascular disorders, but risk generally returns to background levels soon after the infection.
- The risk of new DM remains increased for at least 12 weeks following COVID-19 before declining.
- Patients recovering from COVID-19 should be advised to consider measures to reduce diabetes risk including healthy diet and taking exercise.
- People without preexisting CVD or DM who suffer from COVID-19 do not appear to have a long-term increase in incidence of these conditions.
there’s a tiny bit of possible forgiveness where they say returned to baseline levels or below but that seems fairly noncommittal
same dig, better picture
“Even a mild case of COVID-19 can increase a person’s risk of cardiovascular problems for at least a year after diagnosis, a new study shows. Researchers found that rates of many conditions, such as heart failure and stroke, were substantially higher in people who had recovered from COVID-19 than in similar people who hadn’t had the disease.
What’s more, the risk was elevated even for those who were under 65 years of age and lacked risk factors, such as obesity or diabetes.”
did someone just say
that would be like when we(0,1,1) tried to prevent SARACAIDS-CoV rather than burning off the dry tinder to dry out some more tinder
¿
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2022/07/covid-19-outbreaks-in-australian-residential-aged-care-facilities-29-july-2022.pdf
I just having read of that^
transition said:
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2022/07/covid-19-outbreaks-in-australian-residential-aged-care-facilities-29-july-2022.pdf
I just having read of that^
call it some study of the darwinian ‘morality’ at work
transition said:
transition said:
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2022/07/covid-19-outbreaks-in-australian-residential-aged-care-facilities-29-july-2022.pdf
I just having read of that^
call it some study of the darwinian ‘morality’ at work
all that money in the world, money has no conscience, looking for returns it is, of some sort, value
australia now with a trillion dollar debt, imagine all the money in the world, doing it’s thing, tell me it in no way inspires some ideas similar to survival of the fittest, that influence social policy, or lack of
remember a point at which Australian failure becomes a warning to the world
oh for the times when it was CHINA or South Africa or India that we imported bad news from
ahahahahaha
SCIENCE said:
remember a point at which Australian failure becomes a warning to the world
oh for the times when it was CHINA or South Africa or India that we imported bad news from
what good news could come from letting covid go because it’s too contagious to contain, I mean to adopt that notion a person is likely to then promote behaviors that make it true, to prove it true, and imagine the outcome of billions of people-hosts then invested in proving it true
it was always wrong
maybe that’s where the we is at, wants for other plagues, wants for disasters, secretly wants for more things out of human control, perhaps it diminishes responsibility, has a libertarian or individualist appeal that way, nicely buried in a larger social dimension
