Date: 9/07/2022 01:06:06
From: transition
ID: 1906285
Subject: mass forgettery

unsurprisingly my browser spellcheck underlines forgettery

it is a real thing though isn’t it, a capacity to forget, probably necessary to a conscious self-aware computational apparatus, how would the wetware work if it couldn’t, even intentionally fade whatever, perhaps out of existence

and consider now of the larger scale, the many, billions of people, surely a forgettery would be no less important

what does the mass forgettery look like, some might say that in this day and age with all the data storage nothing is forgotten, a mass forgettery would be unlikely

but is that really the case?

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Date: 9/07/2022 01:10:28
From: furious
ID: 1906286
Subject: re: mass forgettery

Mandela Effect

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Date: 9/07/2022 07:46:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1906322
Subject: re: mass forgettery

transition said:


unsurprisingly my browser spellcheck underlines forgettery

it is a real thing though isn’t it, a capacity to forget, probably necessary to a conscious self-aware computational apparatus, how would the wetware work if it couldn’t, even intentionally fade whatever, perhaps out of existence

and consider now of the larger scale, the many, billions of people, surely a forgettery would be no less important

what does the mass forgettery look like, some might say that in this day and age with all the data storage nothing is forgotten, a mass forgettery would be unlikely

but is that really the case?

We agree to turn our face away.

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Date: 9/07/2022 12:50:21
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1906493
Subject: re: mass forgettery

transition said:


unsurprisingly my browser spellcheck underlines forgettery

it is a real thing though isn’t it, a capacity to forget, probably necessary to a conscious self-aware computational apparatus, how would the wetware work if it couldn’t, even intentionally fade whatever, perhaps out of existence

and consider now of the larger scale, the many, billions of people, surely a forgettery would be no less important

what does the mass forgettery look like, some might say that in this day and age with all the data storage nothing is forgotten, a mass forgettery would be unlikely

but is that really the case?

Do you remember all those tens of thousands of free computer games with no advertising in them?
The internet doesn’t, either.

With data storage, as soon as it’s off the first couple of pages of the web search engines it’s forgotten.

I can think of half a dozen examples that I just happened to come across where vital information has been maliciously removed from Wikipedia.

Then there’s the problem that web hosting websites take down thousands of pages out of sheer cussedness.

That and computer media no longer being readable.

So yes, the internet has a huge mass forgettory affecting billions of people.

And libraries dispose of books. I myself have at least 50 good books that were thrown out from CSIRO libraries. Libraries downsize, losing tens of thousands of books in a single sweep. University libraries have stopped offering their unwanted books to students and staff, they just secretly burn or bury them now.

Every time a person dies, their knowledge dies with them. And that includes almost all of their books and internet knowledge as well.

Nearly everything once judged “in confidence” is lost. I know that the Australian Defence Forces destroyed a lot of information on WWII without it ever having become widely known.

Even little things. My local council has destroyed records of street maintenance.

> how would the wetware work if it couldn’t, even intentionally fade whatever, perhaps out of existence

Wetware has a finite memory size. I’ve reached the age where I can’t remember anything else without forgetting something first.

And I’m starting to get to the age where forgetting things is no guarantee that it will free up space for new memories. I’ve even once felt that little “ping” in my brain when a whole heap of memories were forgotten together, permanently.

Then there’s the process of forming memories. Without an emotional tag, memories are never formed in the first place. And if the correct passkey is lost then memories are present but unable to be accessed.

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PS. My second favourite episode of “My Favorite Martian” is where unwanted wetware memories are stored in a pill. With hilarious results.

PPS. I consider a “forgettary” to be an absolute essential for the design of an artificial intelligence.

PPPS. I see that the internet gives the correct spelling as “forgettery”, though I prefer “forgettary”.

PPPPS. My spellcheck underlines “spellcheck”.

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Date: 9/07/2022 12:53:17
From: dv
ID: 1906495
Subject: re: mass forgettery

Oubliesence.

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Date: 10/07/2022 12:19:24
From: transition
ID: 1906885
Subject: re: mass forgettery

money doesn’t have any memory, must be some utility about that, serves the conversion process of instrumental desires into more fundamental desires, value conversion that way, actualizing, so if money has no memory it may serve in assisting the forgettery

did money ever help someone forget something

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Date: 10/07/2022 12:24:56
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1906888
Subject: re: mass forgettery

transition said:


money doesn’t have any memory, must be some utility about that, serves the conversion process of instrumental desires into more fundamental desires, value conversion that way, actualizing, so if money has no memory it may serve in assisting the forgettery

did money ever help someone forget something

Oh God yes. On several occasions.

The first was that I was walking home from my fathers workplace.
I found some money.
Which made me forget that I’d left my house keys at his workplace.
Had to walk all the way back to get the keys.

Several similar since.

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Date: 10/07/2022 12:38:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1906895
Subject: re: mass forgettery

transition said:


money doesn’t have any memory, must be some utility about that, serves the conversion process of instrumental desires into more fundamental desires, value conversion that way, actualizing, so if money has no memory it may serve in assisting the forgettery

did money ever help someone forget something

Yeah. The mafia launder it through anyone who forgets where it comes from.

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Date: 10/07/2022 12:45:48
From: Tamb
ID: 1906903
Subject: re: mass forgettery

roughbarked said:


transition said:

money doesn’t have any memory, must be some utility about that, serves the conversion process of instrumental desires into more fundamental desires, value conversion that way, actualizing, so if money has no memory it may serve in assisting the forgettery

did money ever help someone forget something

Yeah. The mafia launder it through anyone who forgets where it comes from.


There is a theory that money causes some women to forget their virtue.

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Date: 10/07/2022 12:47:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1906904
Subject: re: mass forgettery

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

money doesn’t have any memory, must be some utility about that, serves the conversion process of instrumental desires into more fundamental desires, value conversion that way, actualizing, so if money has no memory it may serve in assisting the forgettery

did money ever help someone forget something

Yeah. The mafia launder it through anyone who forgets where it comes from.


There is a theory that money causes some women to forget their virtue.

Yes but as John Lennon said, Money can’t buy you love.

He also said, Give me Money, that’s what I want.

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Date: 10/07/2022 12:49:15
From: Tamb
ID: 1906905
Subject: re: mass forgettery

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Yeah. The mafia launder it through anyone who forgets where it comes from.


There is a theory that money causes some women to forget their virtue.

Yes but as John Lennon said, Money can’t buy you love.

He also said, Give me Money, that’s what I want.


Terry Pratchett writes of ladies of negotiable virtue.

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Date: 10/07/2022 12:54:13
From: buffy
ID: 1906907
Subject: re: mass forgettery

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

There is a theory that money causes some women to forget their virtue.

Yes but as John Lennon said, Money can’t buy you love.

He also said, Give me Money, that’s what I want.


Terry Pratchett writes of ladies of negotiable virtue.

Otherwise known as seamstresses….

But Sandra was a real seamstress…

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