Rome (CNN)Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi said Thursday that he would resign, after the 5-Star movement — the largest party in the country’s coalition government — withdrew its support in a parliamentary confidence vote.
Draghi’s measures — a package designed to tackle Italy’s cost-of-living crisis — passed by 172 to 39. However, the 5-Star boycott leaves the government at real risk of collapse and could lead to an early election.
After winning the vote but losing 5-Star’s support, Draghi said in a statement: “I want to announce that this evening I will present my resignation to the President of the Republic.”

“Today’s votes in Parliament are very significant from a political point of view. The majority of national unity that has supported this government since its creation is no longer there,” he added.

He had previously said that he would not lead a government that did not include 5-Star.
However, Italy’s President, Sergio Mattarella, has rejected Draghi’s resignation, instead asking Draghi to address the parliament in order to assess the political situation, the Italian Presidency said in a statement.
“The President of the Republic did not accept the resignation and invited the Prime Minister to appear before Parliament to make communications, so that an assessment of the situation that has arisen as a result of the outcome of the session held today in the Senate of the Republic could be carried out in its proper forum,” the statement said.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/14/europe/italy-government-collapse-july-intl/index.html

dv said:

Rome (CNN)Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi said Thursday that he would resign, after the 5-Star movement — the largest party in the country’s coalition government — withdrew its support in a parliamentary confidence vote.
Draghi’s measures — a package designed to tackle Italy’s cost-of-living crisis — passed by 172 to 39. However, the 5-Star boycott leaves the government at real risk of collapse and could lead to an early election.
After winning the vote but losing 5-Star’s support, Draghi said in a statement: “I want to announce that this evening I will present my resignation to the President of the Republic.”

“Today’s votes in Parliament are very significant from a political point of view. The majority of national unity that has supported this government since its creation is no longer there,” he added.

He had previously said that he would not lead a government that did not include 5-Star.
However, Italy’s President, Sergio Mattarella, has rejected Draghi’s resignation, instead asking Draghi to address the parliament in order to assess the political situation, the Italian Presidency said in a statement.
“The President of the Republic did not accept the resignation and invited the Prime Minister to appear before Parliament to make communications, so that an assessment of the situation that has arisen as a result of the outcome of the session held today in the Senate of the Republic could be carried out in its proper forum,” the statement said.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/14/europe/italy-government-collapse-july-intl/index.html

Interesting that the president can “force” the PM to continue being PM.

What if he wanted to spend more time with his family?

Pretty sure Berlusconi spent a bit of time with The Family

dv said:

Pretty sure Berlusconi spent a bit of time with The Family

I’ve found it really difficult to know which Italian politicians have, and which haven’t. I’ve given up trying.

dv said:

Draghi’s experience is primarily in banking, and he was selected to run a technocratic government that would deal with Italy’s immediate crises without shifting the needle too much politically. He governed with the consent of a broad swath of parties from the left, centre and right, but eventually resigned when it became clear that workable policies were not going to pass. In the normal course of events an election was expected in 2023, but President Mattarella dissolved parliament, called for Draghi to stay on in a caretaker role, and scheduled elections for 25 Sep. Mattarella and Draghi are both independents but can be considered left of centre.

Polling would indicate that this will be a good election for the Right.

Broadly the Left parties are averaging these polling numbers
Democrats 24%
More Europe 2%
Civic Commitment 1%
Action 6%
Green Left 4%
——
Total 37%.

Parties of the Right
Brothers of Italy 22%
Lega 15%
Forza Italia 7%
Italexit 3%
Noi Moderati 1%
——
Total 48%

The Five Star Movement is kind of … mixed, with some left and some conservative ideas but defo Euroskeptic and a little Putinesca. They are polling around 10% and could go either way.

dv said:

dv said:

Draghi’s experience is primarily in banking, and he was selected to run a technocratic government that would deal with Italy’s immediate crises without shifting the needle too much politically. He governed with the consent of a broad swath of parties from the left, centre and right, but eventually resigned when it became clear that workable policies were not going to pass. In the normal course of events an election was expected in 2023, but President Mattarella dissolved parliament, called for Draghi to stay on in a caretaker role, and scheduled elections for 25 Sep. Mattarella and Draghi are both independents but can be considered left of centre.

Polling would indicate that this will be a good election for the Right.

Broadly the Left parties are averaging these polling numbers
Democrats 24%
More Europe 2%
Civic Commitment 1%
Action 6%
Green Left 4%
——
Total 37%.

Parties of the Right
Brothers of Italy 22%
Lega 15%
Forza Italia 7%
Italexit 3%
Noi Moderati 1%
——
Total 48%

The Five Star Movement is kind of … mixed, with some left and some conservative ideas but defo Euroskeptic and a little Putinesca. They are polling around 10% and could go either way.

It appears the polling was reasonably accurate. Georgia Meloni’s Brothers of Italy look like getting around 25% of the vote, which will make them the largest member of the Right Alliance. Italy uses a system where a third of seats are first past the post and the remainder are proportional representation. The various members of the Right Alliance added up appear to be they are going to get about 44%, but that will probably end up being >50% of seats.

something about a female human representing brothers of a fascist country but there you go as they say identity is a fluid thing, it takes the shape of the empty vessel

ABC News:

‘Ms Meloni’s Brothers of Italy party, which has neo-fascist roots, is set to win around 26 per cent of the vote after Sunday’s election, while her wider coalition secured a clear majority in parliament.’

I wonder if she’ll be able to get the trains to run on time?

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Ms Meloni’s Brothers of Italy party, which has neo-fascist roots, is set to win around 26 per cent of the vote after Sunday’s election, while her wider coalition secured a clear majority in parliament.’

I wonder if she’ll be able to get the trains to run on time?

How come you like Ukrainian nazis but don’t like Italian nazis ?

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Ms Meloni’s Brothers of Italy party, which has neo-fascist roots, is set to win around 26 per cent of the vote after Sunday’s election, while her wider coalition secured a clear majority in parliament.’

I wonder if she’ll be able to get the trains to run on time?

How come you like Ukrainian nazis but don’t like Italian nazis ?

Don’t forget Illinoi Nazis

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Ms Meloni’s Brothers of Italy party, which has neo-fascist roots, is set to win around 26 per cent of the vote after Sunday’s election, while her wider coalition secured a clear majority in parliament.’

I wonder if she’ll be able to get the trains to run on time?

How come you like Ukrainian nazis but don’t like Italian nazis ?

Don’t forget Illinoi Nazis

Nor the Russian Nazis.

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Ms Meloni’s Brothers of Italy party, which has neo-fascist roots, is set to win around 26 per cent of the vote after Sunday’s election, while her wider coalition secured a clear majority in parliament.’

I wonder if she’ll be able to get the trains to run on time?

How come you like Ukrainian nazis but don’t like Italian nazis ?

Don’t forget Illinoi Nazis

They are all the same I’m afraid

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Ms Meloni’s Brothers of Italy party, which has neo-fascist roots, is set to win around 26 per cent of the vote after Sunday’s election, while her wider coalition secured a clear majority in parliament.’

I wonder if she’ll be able to get the trains to run on time?

How come you like Ukrainian nazis but don’t like Italian nazis ?

Maybe because the fictional Ukrainian Nazis tend to stay home, and not attack other peoples’ countries as anywhere as frequently as the Russians do, or as the Italian Fascists seemed to be wont to do.

Or because they seem to have eschewed the practice of blaming everything on the Jews, to the point we’re they’re happy to have a Jew as their president.

Not like Putin, whose recent remarks suggest that he’s positioning himself to pin it on the Jews again.

I have to go out now, but i’ll be happy to supply you with a list of references when i return, if you’d like to see just how misguided you are.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Ms Meloni’s Brothers of Italy party, which has neo-fascist roots, is set to win around 26 per cent of the vote after Sunday’s election, while her wider coalition secured a clear majority in parliament.’

I wonder if she’ll be able to get the trains to run on time?

How come you like Ukrainian nazis but don’t like Italian nazis ?

Maybe because the fictional Ukrainian Nazis tend to stay home, and not attack other peoples’ countries as anywhere as frequently as the Russians do, or as the Italian Fascists seemed to be wont to do.

Or because they seem to have eschewed the practice of blaming everything on the Jews, to the point we’re they’re happy to have a Jew as their president.

Not like Putin, whose recent remarks suggest that he’s positioning himself to pin it on the Jews again.

I have to go out now, but i’ll be happy to supply you with a list of references when i return, if you’d like to see just how misguided you are.

Jew blaming is so unoriginal as well

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

How come you like Ukrainian nazis but don’t like Italian nazis ?

Don’t forget Illinoi Nazis

Nor the Russian Nazis.

Ive met the nazis years ago. They told me at the time they were developing this side of things. So yes – there are Russian nazis. Everyone always thinks they can control them for their own purposes.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Ms Meloni’s Brothers of Italy party, which has neo-fascist roots, is set to win around 26 per cent of the vote after Sunday’s election, while her wider coalition secured a clear majority in parliament.’

I wonder if she’ll be able to get the trains to run on time?

How come you like Ukrainian nazis but don’t like Italian nazis ?

Maybe because the fictional Ukrainian Nazis tend to stay home, and not attack other peoples’ countries as anywhere as frequently as the Russians do, or as the Italian Fascists seemed to be wont to do.

Or because they seem to have eschewed the practice of blaming everything on the Jews, to the point we’re they’re happy to have a Jew as their president.

Not like Putin, whose recent remarks suggest that he’s positioning himself to pin it on the Jews again.

I have to go out now, but i’ll be happy to supply you with a list of references when i return, if you’d like to see just how misguided you are.

There are thousands ( maybe more ) of images before the war showing how persuasive nazism is in ukraine. Bandar himself was a nazi – he’s their national hero.

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

How come you like Ukrainian nazis but don’t like Italian nazis ?

Maybe because the fictional Ukrainian Nazis tend to stay home, and not attack other peoples’ countries as anywhere as frequently as the Russians do, or as the Italian Fascists seemed to be wont to do.

Or because they seem to have eschewed the practice of blaming everything on the Jews, to the point we’re they’re happy to have a Jew as their president.

Not like Putin, whose recent remarks suggest that he’s positioning himself to pin it on the Jews again.

I have to go out now, but i’ll be happy to supply you with a list of references when i return, if you’d like to see just how misguided you are.

Jew blaming is so unoriginal as well

The Jews are not blameless people. Gaza/ Palestine/ Lebanon.

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Maybe because the fictional Ukrainian Nazis tend to stay home, and not attack other peoples’ countries as anywhere as frequently as the Russians do, or as the Italian Fascists seemed to be wont to do.

Or because they seem to have eschewed the practice of blaming everything on the Jews, to the point we’re they’re happy to have a Jew as their president.

Not like Putin, whose recent remarks suggest that he’s positioning himself to pin it on the Jews again.

I have to go out now, but i’ll be happy to supply you with a list of references when i return, if you’d like to see just how misguided you are.

Jew blaming is so unoriginal as well

The Jews are not blameless people. Gaza/ Palestine/ Lebanon.

No but blaming them for all the ills of the world via conspiracies is.

I wouldn’t get too excited about the Italian elections – new boss , same as the old boss. We’ll see.

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

Jew blaming is so unoriginal as well

The Jews are not blameless people. Gaza/ Palestine/ Lebanon.

No but blaming them for all the ills of the world via conspiracies is.

They can be an intelligent people , it all depends how they direct that intellect , for better or for worse.

Israel is a Jewish state, if you want to know how you’d fair under a worldwide Jewish dominion you only need to look at Israel. I lived there for a year and a half. On one side you have the kibbutzniks, a hard working accepting people and on the other side you have the religious who essentially want to bomb everyone

wookiemeister said:

Israel is a Jewish state, if you want to know how you’d fair under a worldwide Jewish dominion you only need to look at Israel. I lived there for a year and a half. On one side you have the kibbutzniks, a hard working accepting people and on the other side you have the religious who essentially want to bomb everyone

So essentially no different to most other peoples around the world

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

Israel is a Jewish state, if you want to know how you’d fair under a worldwide Jewish dominion you only need to look at Israel. I lived there for a year and a half. On one side you have the kibbutzniks, a hard working accepting people and on the other side you have the religious who essentially want to bomb everyone

So essentially no different to most other peoples around the world

They’ve been bombing the Palestinians since 1948. That’s not like most other people.

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

Israel is a Jewish state, if you want to know how you’d fair under a worldwide Jewish dominion you only need to look at Israel. I lived there for a year and a half. On one side you have the kibbutzniks, a hard working accepting people and on the other side you have the religious who essentially want to bomb everyone

So essentially no different to most other peoples around the world

They’ve been bombing the Palestinians since 1948. That’s not like most other people.

Who aren’t blameless either

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

So essentially no different to most other peoples around the world

They’ve been bombing the Palestinians since 1948. That’s not like most other people.

Who aren’t blameless either

what, there’s been terrorism all over the world plenty, it’s just life

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

They’ve been bombing the Palestinians since 1948. That’s not like most other people.

Who aren’t blameless either

what, there’s been terrorism all over the world plenty, it’s just life

Yes that’s what I mean, some people are terrorists, to others heroes, everyone has blood on their hands.
People don’t like to admit that, like to separate everyone into goodies and baddies where they are the good guys even though they aren’t good at all

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

They’ve been bombing the Palestinians since 1948. That’s not like most other people.

Who aren’t blameless either

what, there’s been terrorism all over the world plenty, it’s just life

Still remember when SWMBO called from Perth and I said, hang on someone’s just flown a plane into the twin towers.

She said don’t worry, it’s only terrorists.
Next day, she couldn’t get a plane home.

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Who aren’t blameless either

what, there’s been terrorism all over the world plenty, it’s just life

Yes that’s what I mean, some people are terrorists, to others heroes, everyone has blood on their hands.
People don’t like to admit that, like to separate everyone into goodies and baddies where they are the good guys even though they aren’t good at all

I ain’t kilt nobody.

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

So essentially no different to most other peoples around the world

They’ve been bombing the Palestinians since 1948. That’s not like most other people.

Who aren’t blameless either

They lived there before the Jews turned up

If you want to go right back Palestine was NEVER their land , Jerusalem was a sacred Canaanite city

Moses came from Egypt

Abraham was an Iraqi.

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

They’ve been bombing the Palestinians since 1948. That’s not like most other people.

Who aren’t blameless either

what, there’s been terrorism all over the world plenty, it’s just life

An ongoing daily armed attack almost every day for 70 years – that’s not like other peoples

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Who aren’t blameless either

what, there’s been terrorism all over the world plenty, it’s just life

Yes that’s what I mean, some people are terrorists, to others heroes, everyone has blood on their hands.
People don’t like to admit that, like to separate everyone into goodies and baddies where they are the good guys even though they aren’t good at all

It makes people angry and emotional

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

They’ve been bombing the Palestinians since 1948. That’s not like most other people.

Who aren’t blameless either

They lived there before the Jews turned up

If you want to go right back Palestine was NEVER their land , Jerusalem was a sacred Canaanite city

Moses came from Egypt

Abraham was an Iraqi.

Josephus mentions part of this in “ the fall of jerusalem”

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

They’ve been bombing the Palestinians since 1948. That’s not like most other people.

Who aren’t blameless either

They lived there before the Jews turned up

If you want to go right back Palestine was NEVER their land , Jerusalem was a sacred Canaanite city

Moses came from Egypt

Abraham was an Iraqi.

Are you sure? Ask Francesca

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

Who aren’t blameless either

They lived there before the Jews turned up

If you want to go right back Palestine was NEVER their land , Jerusalem was a sacred Canaanite city

Moses came from Egypt

Abraham was an Iraqi.

Are you sure? Ask Francesca

Abraham was born in Ur, when you read it , it was his FATHER who travelled out of Iraq, Abraham tagged along.

Abraham’s dad made religious idols , I think maybe there was a down tick in trade so he moved.

As it is the prophecy is fulfilled

The descendants of Abraham took over the land between the Euphrates and the great river of Egypt.

You’ve not listened to Francesca at all have you?

wookiemeister said:

Abraham’s dad made religious idols

Did he? Way kewlies. Was that on channel 7 or 10?

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

Abraham’s dad made religious idols

Did he? Way kewlies. Was that on channel 7 or 10?

History Channel or The Antique Road Show.

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

SCIENCE said:

what, there’s been terrorism all over the world plenty, it’s just life

Yes that’s what I mean, some people are terrorists, to others heroes, everyone has blood on their hands.
People don’t like to admit that, like to separate everyone into goodies and baddies where they are the good guys even though they aren’t good at all

I ain’t kilt nobody.

we just accidentally stepped on some ants

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

Abraham’s dad made religious idols

Did he? Way kewlies. Was that on channel 7 or 10?

History Channel or The Antique Road Show.

I still think Francesca covers it best.

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Yes that’s what I mean, some people are terrorists, to others heroes, everyone has blood on their hands.
People don’t like to admit that, like to separate everyone into goodies and baddies where they are the good guys even though they aren’t good at all

I ain’t kilt nobody.

we just accidentally stepped on some ants

I find that bad karma comes to those who aren’t observing the obstacles in your path.

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

Abraham’s dad made religious idols

Did he? Way kewlies. Was that on channel 7 or 10?

Ive got it from the old testament or a rabbi

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

Abraham’s dad made religious idols

Did he? Way kewlies. Was that on channel 7 or 10?

History Channel or The Antique Road Show.

The antiques roadshow is underrated

wookiemeister said:

Woodie said:

wookiemeister said:

Abraham’s dad made religious idols

Did he? Way kewlies. Was that on channel 7 or 10?

Ive got it from the old testament or a rabbi

So did Francesca

wookiemeister said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Woodie said:

Did he? Way kewlies. Was that on channel 7 or 10?

History Channel or The Antique Road Show.

The antiques roadshow is underrated

Who by?

dv said:

dv said:

dv said:

Draghi’s experience is primarily in banking, and he was selected to run a technocratic government that would deal with Italy’s immediate crises without shifting the needle too much politically. He governed with the consent of a broad swath of parties from the left, centre and right, but eventually resigned when it became clear that workable policies were not going to pass. In the normal course of events an election was expected in 2023, but President Mattarella dissolved parliament, called for Draghi to stay on in a caretaker role, and scheduled elections for 25 Sep. Mattarella and Draghi are both independents but can be considered left of centre.

Polling would indicate that this will be a good election for the Right.

Broadly the Left parties are averaging these polling numbers
Democrats 24%
More Europe 2%
Civic Commitment 1%
Action 6%
Green Left 4%
——
Total 37%.

Parties of the Right
Brothers of Italy 22%
Lega 15%
Forza Italia 7%
Italexit 3%
Noi Moderati 1%
——
Total 48%

The Five Star Movement is kind of … mixed, with some left and some conservative ideas but defo Euroskeptic and a little Putinesca. They are polling around 10% and could go either way.

It appears the polling was reasonably accurate. Georgia Meloni’s Brothers of Italy look like getting around 25% of the vote, which will make them the largest member of the Right Alliance. Italy uses a system where a third of seats are first past the post and the remainder are proportional representation. The various members of the Right Alliance added up appear to be they are going to get about 44%, but that will probably end up being >50% of seats.

Brothers of Italy ended with 119 of the 400 seats. With support from Forza Italia and Lega, they’ll be able to hold government.

The key policy adjectives of BoI are:

abortion bans
same sex marriage bans
naval blockade to prevent migration
weakening the role of the EU

Meloni herself is opposed to vaccine mandates, supports Italy regaining the parts of Slovenia and Croatia that were formerly Italian territory, and appears to believe in the Great Replacement Conspiracy by which hidden figures want to replace Italy’s population with Africans.

On the bright side BoI supports Nato and opposes Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

A lot of commentators are calling BoI neo-fascist but I’m a bit reticent to bring out the F word. They are a bit Orbany but without the Putin-worship. It certainly is concerning that, of all the parties that will make up the ruling coalition, Forza Italia is the most moderate.

ah well it was a good 100 years oh wait make that 60 years we mean

SCIENCE said:

ah well it was a good 100 years oh wait make that 60 years we mean

What happened in 1962?

dv said:

dv said:

dv said:

Draghi’s experience is primarily in banking, and he was selected to run a technocratic government that would deal with Italy’s immediate crises without shifting the needle too much politically. He governed with the consent of a broad swath of parties from the left, centre and right, but eventually resigned when it became clear that workable policies were not going to pass. In the normal course of events an election was expected in 2023, but President Mattarella dissolved parliament, called for Draghi to stay on in a caretaker role, and scheduled elections for 25 Sep. Mattarella and Draghi are both independents but can be considered left of centre.

Polling would indicate that this will be a good election for the Right.

Broadly the Left parties are averaging these polling numbers
Democrats 24%
More Europe 2%
Civic Commitment 1%
Action 6%
Green Left 4%
——
Total 37%.

Parties of the Right
Brothers of Italy 22%
Lega 15%
Forza Italia 7%
Italexit 3%
Noi Moderati 1%
——
Total 48%

The Five Star Movement is kind of … mixed, with some left and some conservative ideas but defo Euroskeptic and a little Putinesca. They are polling around 10% and could go either way.

It appears the polling was reasonably accurate. Georgia Meloni’s Brothers of Italy look like getting around 25% of the vote, which will make them the largest member of the Right Alliance. Italy uses a system where a third of seats are first past the post and the remainder are proportional representation. The various members of the Right Alliance added up appear to be they are going to get about 44%, but that will probably end up being >50% of seats.

Brothers of Italy ended with 119 of the 400 seats. With support from Forza Italia and Lega, they’ll be able to hold government.

The key policy adjectives of BoI are:

abortion bans
same sex marriage bans
naval blockade to prevent migration
weakening the role of the EU

Meloni herself is opposed to vaccine mandates, supports Italy regaining the parts of Slovenia and Croatia that were formerly Italian territory, and appears to believe in the Great Replacement Conspiracy by which hidden figures want to replace Italy’s population with Africans.

On the bright side BoI supports Nato and opposes Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

A lot of commentators are calling BoI neo-fascist but I’m a bit reticent to bring out the F word. They are a bit Orbany but without the Putin-worship. It certainly is concerning that, of all the parties that will make up the ruling coalition, Forza Italia is the most moderate.

The key policy adjectives of BoI are:

Controlling women’s bodies
homophobic on same sex marriage

Same old shit flying around.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

ah well it was a good 100 years oh wait make that 60 years we mean

What happened in 1962?

oh nothing that’s the point

The US secretly agreed to withdraw the missiles from Italy and Turkey.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

ah well it was a good 100 years oh wait make that 60 years we mean

What happened in 1962?

Gina Lollabrigida starred in ‘Imperial Venus’.

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

ah well it was a good 100 years oh wait make that 60 years we mean

What happened in 1962?

Gina Lollabrigida starred in ‘Imperial Venus’.

I turned 2 years old and was in a state of permanent wonder.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

ah well it was a good 100 years oh wait make that 60 years we mean

What happened in 1962?

Not much, Tucker Carlson wasn’t even born and Ralph “Sonny” Barger was 24 and had only been riding with Hells Angels for 5 years.

dv said:

faschise

dv said:

As long as she’s aware that Putin is unlikely to come to the rescue if her army gets bogged down while invading Greece.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

As long as she’s aware that Putin is unlikely to come to the rescue if her army gets bogged down while invading Greece.

Wonder if she gives petrol stations a side glance when passing them by.

dv said:

Do we have to have another fascist franchise?

Neophyte said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

As long as she’s aware that Putin is unlikely to come to the rescue if her army gets bogged down while invading Greece.

Wonder if she gives petrol stations a side glance when passing them by.

Only the Esso ones.

https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1574451582384513024

https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1938444/

what a world, what a time

SCIENCE said:

https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1938444/

what a world, what a time

Nice crossover

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-10-21-22

Former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi sparked controversy this week when audio released by Italian news agency LaPresse revealed the 86-year-old speaking about his “re-established” relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Berlusconi says in the audio that Putin sent him 20 bottles of vodka and a “very sweet letter” on his birthday last month.

His office confirmed with CNN on Thursday that the clips were authentic — apparently having been secretly recorded during a meeting of Berlusconi’s Forza Italia party in the parliamentary chamber on Tuesday.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/16/italy-passes-measures-to-allow-anti-abortion-activists-to-enter-abortion-clinics

Italy passes measures to allow anti-abortion activists to enter abortion clinics

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/16/italy-passes-measures-to-allow-anti-abortion-activists-to-enter-abortion-clinics

Italy passes measures to allow anti-abortion activists to enter abortion clinics

That seems quite wrong, outside OK, certain distance away like the media have to do for the courts