Date: 1/08/2022 07:08:24
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1915261
Subject: COVID August 22
And so it goes on.
Date: 1/08/2022 08:31:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1915285
Subject: re: COVID August 22
Once In A Hundred Years
And so it goes on.
nice, apparently this is an ASIAN habit, not a choice to protect people
Habitual mask-wearing is likely helping Japan, Singapore and South Korea bring daily Omicron deaths down, epidemiologists say
at least they didn’t mention CHINA, least it appear as if a lack of mentioning CHINA were an implication that the low rate there is a lie sorry we mean inconvenience for the rest of the world
SCIENCE said:
nice, apparently this is an ASIAN habit, not a choice to protect people
Habitual mask-wearing is likely helping Japan, Singapore and South Korea bring daily Omicron deaths down, epidemiologists say
at least they didn’t mention CHINA, least it appear as if a lack of mentioning CHINA were an implication that the low rate there is a lie sorry we mean inconvenience for the rest of the world
not going to bother reading it all
the situation really is no different to people being cautious about spreading common respiratory infections, covid happens to be worse is all, the same basic stuff applies though
what’s happening in a australia is more like spitting in each others faces
Once In A Hundred Years
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
“Even a mild case of COVID-19 can increase a person’s risk of cardiovascular problems for at least a year after diagnosis, a new study shows. Researchers found that rates of many conditions, such as heart failure and stroke, were substantially higher in people who had recovered from COVID-19 than in similar people who hadn’t had the disease.
What’s more, the risk was elevated even for those who were under 65 years of age and lacked risk factors, such as obesity or diabetes.”
did someone just say
that would be like when we(0,1,1) tried to prevent SARACAIDS-CoV rather than burning off the dry tinder to dry out some more tinder
¿
transition said:
SCIENCE said:nice, apparently this is an ASIAN habit, not a choice to protect people
Habitual mask-wearing is likely helping Japan, Singapore and South Korea bring daily Omicron deaths down, epidemiologists say
at least they didn’t mention CHINA, least it appear as if a lack of mentioning CHINA were an implication that the low rate there is a lie sorry we mean inconvenience for the rest of the world
not going to bother reading it all
the situation really is no different to people being cautious about spreading common respiratory infections, covid happens to be worse is all, the same basic stuff applies though
what’s happening in a australia is more like spitting in each others faces
and I read some that again, my impression was it gave lip service to masks here, made the right noises, but possibly might be encouraging those elsewhere to take their masks off
and subject ‘habits’, used regard mask wearing, the article doesn’t stray much from the habits of word-concepts people automatically apply when reading things, makes good use of them
the social environment in Australia has long had influences working on it that basically forbade any demonstrable turning around of the spread of plague, as any serious decline evidenced by basic prophylaxis shows elimination is possible, dynamic zero is possible
just a reminder again, covid was intentionally introduced into south australia
Research finds simple changes to ventilation can significantly decrease transmission of COVID-19 in offices.
www.architectureanddesign.com.au/news/research-finds-simple-changes-to-ventilation
if it reads like chicken and tastes like chicken
“It was a manoeuvre where you approach the ground and do a certain thing that speeds you up and then you do another thing that slows you down,” Inspector Fusinato said. “It appears he’s conducted this manoeuvre a bit closer to the ground and wasn’t able to slow down enough before impacting with the ground.”
the correct factors to blame here must be influenza A and the staff at the hospital
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-01/covid-symptoms-children-omicron-long-covid/101282530
Queensland, you suck. One state had to be dead last on the vaccination list, why did it have to be us?
Spiny Norman said:
Queensland, you suck. One state had to be dead last on the vaccination list, why did it have to be us?
got my fourth shot on Friday.
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
Queensland, you suck. One state had to be dead last on the vaccination list, why did it have to be us?
got my fourth shot on Friday.
Mrs V and I have also had our fourth shots.
some great country statistics, not by us, allegedly mild
oops
as we noticed
SCIENCE said:
as we noticed
And a couple years ago we had police helicopters scanning the highways looking for people going for illegal recreational drives.
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
as we noticed
And a couple years ago we had police helicopters scanning the highways looking for people going for illegal recreational drives.
Yeah, but that was in Victoria and it wasn’t an election year.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
as we noticed
And a couple years ago we had police helicopters scanning the highways looking for people going for illegal recreational drives.
Yeah, but that was in Victoria and it wasn’t an election year.
Also Tasmania.
How masks on some of Victoria’s youngest could save our oldest
Aisha Dow
By Aisha Dow
August 1, 2022 — 7.55pm
Widespread mask-wearing in schools could save dozens of lives each month and provide an extra layer of protection for Victoria’s oldest residents, who are being hospitalised about three times as much compared with previous COVID-19 waves.
New pandemic modelling by the Burnet Institute for the Victorian Health Department estimates that if masks were worn widely by almost everyone in public indoor spaces, including schools, the number of COVID-19 cases could drop by up to 23 per cent and deaths by 14 per cent.
Read more:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/how-masks-on-some-of-victoria-s-youngest-could-save-our-oldest-20220801-p5b6cm.html
c’m‘on ABC tell us what you really think of pre test probability, positive and negative predictive values, and safety
Witty Rejoinder said:
if masks were worn widely by almost everyone in public indoor spaces, including schools, the number of COVID-19 cases could drop by up to 23 per cent and deaths by 14 per centRead more:
Respirators, 100%, 100%.
SCIENCE said:
c’m‘on ABC tell us what you really think of pre test probability, positive and negative predictive values, and safety
the license, the making lawful of making ill, and maiming, and killing, of own, own kind, family, friends, acquaintances, even strangers importantly, getting a bit embarrassing, the scale of it, the secret superpandemic, pandemic unlimited
evolution, it’s a grand thing, everyone’s an evolutionist these days
but fortunately things will stabilize eventually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN6BFyzjTkU
transition said:
SCIENCE said:c’m‘on ABC tell us what you really think of pre test probability, positive and negative predictive values, and safety
the license, the making lawful of making ill, and maiming, and killing, of own, own kind, family, friends, acquaintances, even strangers importantly, getting a bit embarrassing, the scale of it, the secret superpandemic, pandemic unlimited
evolution, it’s a grand thing, everyone’s an evolutionist these days
but fortunately things will stabilize eventually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN6BFyzjTkU
Human nature perhaps to get used to most things no matter how bad they are and they become less important, still have to live life.
Did they close any state borders in the US during the damnpanic?
Cymek said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:c’m‘on ABC tell us what you really think of pre test probability, positive and negative predictive values, and safety
the license, the making lawful of making ill, and maiming, and killing, of own, own kind, family, friends, acquaintances, even strangers importantly, getting a bit embarrassing, the scale of it, the secret superpandemic, pandemic unlimited
evolution, it’s a grand thing, everyone’s an evolutionist these days
but fortunately things will stabilize eventually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN6BFyzjTkU
Human nature perhaps to get used to most things no matter how bad they are and they become less important, still have to live life.
you’d need be an alien survey the planet to get an independent perspective on what’s happening, so pervasive is the perspective shaping influence of our own kind, to normalize
an alien might wonder why masks are not universally encouraged, and why so much covid is allowed to persist given it fuels rapid evolution
Peak Warming Man said:
Did they close any state borders in the US during the damnpanic?
Ha
transition said:
Cymek said:
transition said:the license, the making lawful of making ill, and maiming, and killing, of own, own kind, family, friends, acquaintances, even strangers importantly, getting a bit embarrassing, the scale of it, the secret superpandemic, pandemic unlimited
evolution, it’s a grand thing, everyone’s an evolutionist these days
but fortunately things will stabilize eventually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN6BFyzjTkU
Human nature perhaps to get used to most things no matter how bad they are and they become less important, still have to live life.
you’d need be an alien survey the planet to get an independent perspective on what’s happening, so pervasive is the perspective shaping influence of our own kind, to normalize
an alien might wonder why masks are not universally encouraged, and why so much covid is allowed to persist given it fuels rapid evolution
That is something I wonder about, if intelligent aliens exist do they act in a manner similar to us, irrational, self destructive, selfish, etc and do they exploit anything and everything.
If so then its SNAFU and carry on likely to self destruction and if not then we have a problem
Cymek said:
transition said:
Cymek said:Human nature perhaps to get used to most things no matter how bad they are and they become less important, still have to live life.
you’d need be an alien survey the planet to get an independent perspective on what’s happening, so pervasive is the perspective shaping influence of our own kind, to normalize
an alien might wonder why masks are not universally encouraged, and why so much covid is allowed to persist given it fuels rapid evolution
That is something I wonder about, if intelligent aliens exist do they act in a manner similar to us, irrational, self destructive, selfish, etc and do they exploit anything and everything.
If so then its SNAFU and carry on likely to self destruction and if not then we have a problem
even the alien proposition as an abstract thought exercise is useful, possibly more useful than contemplating real aliens
the point is people are very immersed in common ways of seeing things, largely it’s assumed or presumed(the commonality), which is what makes it so powerful
but in what I said is something paradoxical, or anomalous maybe better said
normal alienates the alien, which may not always work
transition said:
Cymek said:
transition said:
you’d need be an alien survey the planet to get an independent perspective on what’s happening, so pervasive is the perspective shaping influence of our own kind, to normalize
an alien might wonder why masks are not universally encouraged, and why so much covid is allowed to persist given it fuels rapid evolution
That is something I wonder about, if intelligent aliens exist do they act in a manner similar to us, irrational, self destructive, selfish, etc and do they exploit anything and everything.
If so then its SNAFU and carry on likely to self destruction and if not then we have a problem
even the alien proposition as an abstract thought exercise is useful, possibly more useful than contemplating real aliens
the point is people are very immersed in common ways of seeing things, largely it’s assumed or presumed(the commonality), which is what makes it so powerful
but in what I said is something paradoxical, or anomalous maybe better said
normal alienates the alien, which may not always work
oops
but don’t worry
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
if masks were worn widely by almost everyone in public indoor spaces, including schools, the number of COVID-19 cases could drop by up to 23 per cent and deaths by 14 per centRead more:
Respirators, 100%, 100%.
oh damn they were just talking about masks
with that level of reduction the number of infections and deaths* would probably go negative with respirators
*: actually intelligent among you may have noticed that when infection control was strong early in Pandemic, “excess deaths” really were negative
My daughter currently has Covid, my wife and I have both had it once a few months ago.
We are taking precautions but time will tell.
Cymek said:
My daughter currently has Covid, my wife and I have both had it once a few months ago.
We are taking precautions but time will tell.
If you keep taking precautions, time will likely be on your side.
“expert”
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
if masks were worn widely by almost everyone in public indoor spaces, including schools, the number of COVID-19 cases could drop by up to 23 per cent and deaths by 14 per centRead more:
Respirators, 100%, 100%.
oh damn they were just talking about masks
with that level of reduction the number of infections and deaths* would probably go negative with respirators
*: actually intelligent among you may have noticed that when infection control was strong early in Pandemic, “excess deaths” really were negative
ahahahahahahahaha
SCIENCE said:
“expert”
I haven’t looked it up but I’d guess at between 20 and 30.
SCIENCE said:
“expert”
Not everyone follows the news
SCIENCE said:
“expert”
The patients possibly had their own troubles to worry about.
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
“expert”
The patients possibly had their own troubles to worry about.
oh we d’n‘o’, we’ve visited patients before, seems like there’s not a lot going on between healthcare worker visits when you’re sitting around on the ward all day, might be bored and read some news for example
hopefully we won’t be needing a new poliomyelitis thread so we’re just letting SARACAIDS-CoV surrogatemother it here but
communist disinformation conspiracy theorism
Laugh The Fuck Out Loud
The Perth woman is part of a group converging on Parliament House on Wednesday to call for the urgent introduction of a screening program which The Lung Foundation says will prevent 12,000 deaths from lung cancer over 10 years. Almost 8,700 people died of lung cancer in 2021 and 13,810 were diagnosed with the disease.
imagine turning the clock back to 2019,
then if you told people that all they had to do to save 12000 lives a year,
or effectively completely remove one of the top 3 causes of death for the next pandemic duration of years,
was to wear an extra piece of clothing whenever they left their homes,
might we achieve incredible gains in health and wellbeing across our societies
oh fuck almost all of those 12000 were in the last 7 months, guess stopping local transmission of a highly virulent infectious disease could save a lot more than that in 10 years
all you economic fetishists can go and do your own research on how much lung cancer treatment costs before telling us that preventing infectious disease costs too much
Australia miles kilometres behind’ in healthcare technology, experts say. From PCRs to RATs to breath tests, what will the future of COVID-19 testing look like?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-03/what-will-the-future-of-covid-19-testing-look-like-pcr-rat-tests/101281152
why bother though, why not just reap them
At this stage, the vaccine is only recommended for children in that age group who are severely immunocompromised, have a disability, or complex health conditions that increase the risk of COVID-19.
Deaths really do seem to be on the up now. The weekly headcount in Australia is basically the same as it was in late Jan, when the caseload was three times higher.
dv said:
Deaths really do seem to be on the up now. The weekly headcount in Australia is basically the same as it was in late Jan, when the caseload was three times higher.
But in Victoria it is an election year. In election years you ignore your chief health officer. In non-election years his/her word is from on high.
sibeen said:
dv said:
Deaths really do seem to be on the up now. The weekly headcount in Australia is basically the same as it was in late Jan, when the caseload was three times higher.
But in Victoria it is an election year. In election years you ignore your chief health officer. In non-election years his/her word is from on high.
Damn well I wish Victorians the best of luck for the next three months
political genius
let’s go
GENEVA, Aug 2 (Reuters) – A child who contracted the highly infectious Ebola-like Marburg virus in Ghana has died, a World Health Organization official said on Tuesday. The death brings the total number of fatalities in the country to three since Ghana registered its first ever outbreak of the disease last month.
SCIENCE said:
thought we’d spoil it for yous
just an assortment more fun
SCIENCE said:
so effective is the propaganda – the shared convenient reality – that people wouldn’t recognize a superpandemic of their own species making
dv said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
Deaths really do seem to be on the up now. The weekly headcount in Australia is basically the same as it was in late Jan, when the caseload was three times higher.
But in Victoria it is an election year. In election years you ignore your chief health officer. In non-election years his/her word is from on high.
Damn well I wish Victorians the best of luck for the next three months
I’ve started not wearing a mask outdoors, and taking off my mask on rare occasions indoors, and had my first maskless encounter with a Covid isolater.
mrs m is at more risk than I am. She doesn’t mask up when playing the piano at gigs, and has an average of a gig a day. One stage play she played for had nine cast members come down with covid while she was playing for them.
I have still not had covid.
Arts said:
I have still not had covid.
To the best of my knowledge, neither have I. Bearing in mind it can be asymptomatic. I haven’t had a cold or ‘flu since I retired either. But my risk/contact has been massively reduced since I don’t get to within a few centimetres of about a dozen other people’s faces each working day. I reckon my immune system is pretty good, I usually only managed to catch one or two colds a year, and I think I’ve only had ‘flu twice in my life(not lab confirmed, too sick to get to the doctor and I wouldn’t spread it anyway).
buffy said:
Arts said:
I have still not had covid.
To the best of my knowledge, neither have I. Bearing in mind it can be asymptomatic. I haven’t had a cold or ‘flu since I retired either. But my risk/contact has been massively reduced since I don’t get to within a few centimetres of about a dozen other people’s faces each working day. I reckon my immune system is pretty good, I usually only managed to catch one or two colds a year, and I think I’ve only had ‘flu twice in my life(not lab confirmed, too sick to get to the doctor and I wouldn’t spread it anyway).
well, I’m out there, baby and loving’ every minute of it.. but still have not caught covids… I do test on a fairly regular basis since I have a duty of care to the students that I have to be around… but nothing
buffy said:
Arts said:
I have still not had covid.
To the best of my knowledge, neither have I. Bearing in mind it can be asymptomatic. I haven’t had a cold or ‘flu since I retired either. But my risk/contact has been massively reduced since I don’t get to within a few centimetres of about a dozen other people’s faces each working day. I reckon my immune system is pretty good, I usually only managed to catch one or two colds a year, and I think I’ve only had ‘flu twice in my life(not lab confirmed, too sick to get to the doctor and I wouldn’t spread it anyway).
I haven’t had it nor the flu.
Arts said:
buffy said:
Arts said:
I have still not had covid.
To the best of my knowledge, neither have I. Bearing in mind it can be asymptomatic. I haven’t had a cold or ‘flu since I retired either. But my risk/contact has been massively reduced since I don’t get to within a few centimetres of about a dozen other people’s faces each working day. I reckon my immune system is pretty good, I usually only managed to catch one or two colds a year, and I think I’ve only had ‘flu twice in my life(not lab confirmed, too sick to get to the doctor and I wouldn’t spread it anyway).
well, I’m out there, baby and loving’ every minute of it.. but still have not caught covids… I do test on a fairly regular basis since I have a duty of care to the students that I have to be around… but nothing
I’ve not had any reason to test. I’m quite happy not dealing with people now. I had nearly 40 years of it. Now it’s time for me to concentrate on flowers and plants and stuff.
Arts said:
I have still not had covid.
Same. Let us laugh at the feeble.
dv said:
Arts said:
I have still not had covid.
Same. Let us laugh at the feeble.
in French… héhéhé
an oldie and a goodie
Arts said:
I have still not had covid.
me neither, but then I’m a recluse.
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
I have still not had covid.
me neither, but then I’m a recluse.
Are you brown?
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
I have still not had covid.
me neither, but then I’m a recluse.
Are you brown?
my freckles are brown.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
me neither, but then I’m a recluse.
Are you brown?
my freckles are brown.
we must be dv, that was our instant word association as well
what does it all mean
I see those diseased Kiwis now have more deaths per million people than we do, the filthy buggers.
sibeen said:
I see those diseased Kiwis now have more deaths per million people than we do, the filthy buggers.
What? We can’t let NZ beat us at ANYTHING!
Get out there people, cough, sneeze, spit, whatever it takes! Aussie, Aussie, Aussie!
New cases in South Korea and Japan are on the rise.
mollwollfumble said:
New cases in South Korea and Japan are on the rise.
Worldwide, the case fatality rate from Covid dropped over the past two months.
Because of the inaccuracy of data (graphs zig-zagging all over the place) it’s hard to know how individual countries are performing.
Instead of about 40 countries with case fatality rates above 1% some two months ago, that’s down now to 15 countries with case fatality rates above 1%.
Case fatality rates have dropped for Ecuador, Peru, Bulgaria and Mexico, counties that have had very high case fatality rates.
Case fatality rates have risen for Thailand and Australia. In Australia, the case fatality rate is twice what it was two months ago.
mollwollfumble said:
mollwollfumble said:
New cases in South Korea and Japan are on the rise.
Worldwide, the case fatality rate from Covid dropped over the past two months.
Because of the inaccuracy of data (graphs zig-zagging all over the place) it’s hard to know how individual countries are performing.
Instead of about 40 countries with case fatality rates above 1% some two months ago, that’s down now to 15 countries with case fatality rates above 1%.
Case fatality rates have dropped for Ecuador, Peru, Bulgaria and Mexico, counties that have had very high case fatality rates.
Case fatality rates have risen for Thailand and Australia. In Australia, the case fatality rate is twice what it was two months ago.
>Worldwide, the case fatality rate from Covid dropped over the past two months.
the situation really is NFI until good figures are done on excess deaths, otherwise whatever you’re seeing is largely BS
transition said:
mollwollfumble said:
mollwollfumble said:
New cases in South Korea and Japan are on the rise.
Worldwide, the case fatality rate from Covid dropped over the past two months.
Because of the inaccuracy of data (graphs zig-zagging all over the place) it’s hard to know how individual countries are performing.
Instead of about 40 countries with case fatality rates above 1% some two months ago, that’s down now to 15 countries with case fatality rates above 1%.
Case fatality rates have dropped for Ecuador, Peru, Bulgaria and Mexico, counties that have had very high case fatality rates.
Case fatality rates have risen for Thailand and Australia. In Australia, the case fatality rate is twice what it was two months ago.
>Worldwide, the case fatality rate from Covid dropped over the past two months.
the situation really is NFI until good figures are done on excess deaths, otherwise whatever you’re seeing is largely BS
well that’s easy, just report excess deaths based on the 5 year average as they do, and then when they start reporting truthfully then there are no excess deaths it’s magic¡ guess we’re in Pandemic for at least that long then
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
mollwollfumble said:Worldwide, the case fatality rate from Covid dropped over the past two months.
Because of the inaccuracy of data (graphs zig-zagging all over the place) it’s hard to know how individual countries are performing.
Instead of about 40 countries with case fatality rates above 1% some two months ago, that’s down now to 15 countries with case fatality rates above 1%.
Case fatality rates have dropped for Ecuador, Peru, Bulgaria and Mexico, counties that have had very high case fatality rates.
Case fatality rates have risen for Thailand and Australia. In Australia, the case fatality rate is twice what it was two months ago.
>Worldwide, the case fatality rate from Covid dropped over the past two months.
the situation really is NFI until good figures are done on excess deaths, otherwise whatever you’re seeing is largely BS
well that’s easy, just report excess deaths based on the 5 year average as they do, and then when they finally start reporting truthfully in 5 years then there are no excess deaths it’s magic¡ guess we’re in Pandemic for at least that long then
sorry didn’t complete our edits now fixed
LOL Fuck
Shadow Agriculture Minister David Littleproud said the task force announcement was a “rebadge of what the former Coalition government already had in place”.
“It has taken over four weeks for the Minister to get the right people in a room together and to take this seriously,” Mr Littleproud said.
Animal Health Australia chief executive Kathleen Plowman, who will be part of the task force, said it was important to ensure government agencies were working together.
“Should we ever have an emergency animal disease incursion we will be all the more stronger working together to rapidly respond to, contain, and eradicate a disease to ensure a quicker return to market and in turn our economic and national wellbeing,” Ms Plowman said.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:>Worldwide, the case fatality rate from Covid dropped over the past two months.
the situation really is NFI until good figures are done on excess deaths, otherwise whatever you’re seeing is largely BS
well that’s easy, just report excess deaths based on the 5 year average as they do, and then when they finally start reporting truthfully in 5 years then there are no excess deaths it’s magic¡ guess we’re in Pandemic for at least that long then
sorry didn’t complete our edits now fixed
i’m sure the soft social darwinists exploring the limits of acceptability will find some way to disappear the reality into a expanding oblivion of comorbities and the added convenient noise of uncertainty
Good News¡ Number Of People Living With Self-Reported Long COVID-19 Decreases¡
Good News¡ Number Of People Living …
… oh …
… wait
And today we pass Marge & Tina to be #14 on the Worldometer COVID hit list. :(
SCIENCE said:
LOL
https://twitter.com/watinthe_/status/1554809220037738496
imagine how demanding being a teacher is, then to have the added covid dimension, credit to them
Spiny Norman said:
And today we pass Marge & Tina to be #14 on the Worldometer COVID hit list. :(
and so continues The Great Maiming, mortality is the more obvious aspect of the plague casualties, appeals to expedient conceptualization with a binary, easily countable, but even those numbers are bullshit
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
https://twitter.com/watinthe_/status/1554809220037738496
imagine how demanding being a teacher is, then to have the added covid dimension, credit to them
credit yes, we’ll be hanging out for that 40% pay rise indeed
transition said:
Spiny Norman said:
And today we pass Marge & Tina to be #14 on the Worldometer COVID hit list. :(and so continues The Great Maiming, mortality is the more obvious aspect of the plague casualties, appeals to expedient conceptualization with a binary, easily countable, but even those numbers are bullshit
We’re still at #131 on the list that really counts.
sibeen said:
transition said:
Spiny Norman said:
And today we pass Marge & Tina to be #14 on the Worldometer COVID hit list. :(and so continues The Great Maiming, mortality is the more obvious aspect of the plague casualties, appeals to expedient conceptualization with a binary, easily countable, but even those numbers are bullshit
We’re still at #131 on the list that really counts.
what’s _really_mean in that proposition, you might know
transition said:
sibeen said:
transition said:and so continues The Great Maiming, mortality is the more obvious aspect of the plague casualties, appeals to expedient conceptualization with a binary, easily countable, but even those numbers are bullshit
We’re still at #131 on the list that really counts.
what’s _really_mean in that proposition, you might know
Yeah, it means “dead”. I think that does count.
sibeen said:
transition said:
sibeen said:We’re still at #131 on the list that really counts.
what’s really mean in that proposition, you might know
Yeah, it means “dead”. I think that does count.
I think the way you used really there means much more perhaps, though’s not immediately evident
transition said:
sibeen said:
transition said:what’s really mean in that proposition, you might know
Yeah, it means “dead”. I think that does count.
I think the way you used really there means much more perhaps, though’s not immediately evident
Naaah, I reckon dead is about as real as you can get.
sibeen said:
transition said:
sibeen said:Yeah, it means “dead”. I think that does count.
I think the way you used really there means much more perhaps, though’s not immediately evident
Naaah, I reckon dead is about as real as you can get.
not sure really as you used it and real are the same thing, but whatever
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
same dig, better picture
“Even a mild case of COVID-19 can increase a person’s risk of cardiovascular problems for at least a year after diagnosis, a new study shows. Researchers found that rates of many conditions, such as heart failure and stroke, were substantially higher in people who had recovered from COVID-19 than in similar people who hadn’t had the disease.
What’s more, the risk was elevated even for those who were under 65 years of age and lacked risk factors, such as obesity or diabetes.”
did someone just say
that would be like when we(0,1,1) tried to prevent SARACAIDS-CoV rather than burning off the dry tinder to dry out some more tinder
¿
Oh, Oops
Blood clots, heart problems, kidney failure: COVID creates a higher risk for rare pediatric health problems, new CDC study finds
https://fortune.com/2022/08/04/covid-creates-higher-risk-kids-children-pediatric-blood-clots-kidney-failure-heart-problems-type-1-diabetes/
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7131a3.htm?s_cid=mm7131a3_w
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
“Even a mild case of COVID-19 can increase a person’s risk of cardiovascular problems for at least a year after diagnosis, a new study shows. Researchers found that rates of many conditions, such as heart failure and stroke, were substantially higher in people who had recovered from COVID-19 than in similar people who hadn’t had the disease.
What’s more, the risk was elevated even for those who were under 65 years of age and lacked risk factors, such as obesity or diabetes.”
did someone just say
that would be like when we(0,1,1) tried to prevent SARACAIDS-CoV rather than burning off the dry tinder to dry out some more tinder
¿
Oh, Oops
Blood clots, heart problems, kidney failure: COVID creates a higher risk for rare pediatric health problems, new CDC study finds
https://fortune.com/2022/08/04/covid-creates-higher-risk-kids-children-pediatric-blood-clots-kidney-failure-heart-problems-type-1-diabetes/
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7131a3.htm?s_cid=mm7131a3_w
LOL
how good does extensive in-vivo neuroinflammation sound, everyone wants it
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.06.02.22275916v1
Michael V said:
“Even a mild case of COVID-19 can increase a person’s risk of cardiovascular problems for at least a year after diagnosis, a new study shows. Researchers found that rates of many conditions, such as heart failure and stroke, were substantially higher in people who had recovered from COVID-19 than in similar people who hadn’t had the disease.
What’s more, the risk was elevated even for those who were under 65 years of age and lacked risk factors, such as obesity or diabetes.”
“…people in the contemporary control group weren’t tested for COVID-19,”
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:“Even a mild case of COVID-19 can increase a person’s risk of cardiovascular problems for at least a year after diagnosis, a new study shows. Researchers found that rates of many conditions, such as heart failure and stroke, were substantially higher in people who had recovered from COVID-19 than in similar people who hadn’t had the disease.
What’s more, the risk was elevated even for those who were under 65 years of age and lacked risk factors, such as obesity or diabetes.”
“…people in the contemporary control group weren’t tested for COVID-19,”
Damn. Someone who reads the fine print…
;)
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
did someone just say
that would be like when we(0,1,1) tried to prevent SARACAIDS-CoV rather than burning off the dry tinder to dry out some more tinder
¿
Oh, Oops
Blood clots, heart problems, kidney failure: COVID creates a higher risk for rare pediatric health problems, new CDC study finds
https://fortune.com/2022/08/04/covid-creates-higher-risk-kids-children-pediatric-blood-clots-kidney-failure-heart-problems-type-1-diabetes/
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7131a3.htm?s_cid=mm7131a3_w
LOL
part of the nuttiness, blitzing people with information, contradictory information helps, a mash, eventually people stop caring, all part of the good work of the media and their friends carving out influence – the ideological apparatus – the transformation objective is to turn government health-related social policy into a sort of zombie if you like
transition said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
Oh, Oops
Blood clots, heart problems, kidney failure: COVID creates a higher risk for rare pediatric health problems, new CDC study finds
https://fortune.com/2022/08/04/covid-creates-higher-risk-kids-children-pediatric-blood-clots-kidney-failure-heart-problems-type-1-diabetes/
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7131a3.htm?s_cid=mm7131a3_w
LOL
part of the nuttiness, blitzing people with information, contradictory information helps, a mash, eventually people stop caring, all part of the good work of the media and their friends carving out influence – the ideological apparatus – the transformation objective is to turn government health-related social policy into a sort of zombie if you like
and for some light indulgence of the grotesque, might add you may not recognize it if government health agencies became zombie-central
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie
“On May 18, 2011, the United States’ Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published a graphic novel entitled Preparedness 101: Zombie Apocalypse, providing tips to survive a zombie invasion as a “fun new way of teaching the importance of emergency preparedness”. The CDC used the metaphor of a zombie apocalypse to illustrate the value of laying in water, food, medical supplies, and other necessities in preparation for any and all potential disasters, be they hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, floods, or hordes of zombies.
In 2011, the U.S. Department of Defense drafted CONPLAN 8888, a training exercise detailing a strategy to defend against a zombie attack..”
89 COVID-19 deaths reported today in Australia.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-06/covid-19-case-numbers-from-around-the-states-and-territories/101307836
Michael V said:
89 COVID-19 deaths reported today in Australia.
ah so it’s decreasing
My town has 13 to reach 10,000 infections, from a population of 27,182.
roughbarked said:
My town has 13 to reach 10,000 infections, from a population of 27,182.
Records not kept here.
:(
who do these “experts” think they are, leave the political fucking up to the fuckers please
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
My town has 13 to reach 10,000 infections, from a population of 27,182.
Records not kept here.
:(
don’t worry should be about 1 month before the climb starts again
oops
nice, another bunch of deadly shit caused by lockdowns
China is still claiming only about 5300 deaths, and hence just about the lowest Covid death rates in the entire world.
dv said:
China is still claiming only about 5300 deaths, and hence just about the lowest Covid death rates in the entire world.
Could be a definition thing. Not all countries are using the same definitions of what is a COVID death.
In the Com games if you’ve got a cold or covid and you are feeling ok you can compete, apparently.
pftf anyone appearing to do good is probably lying, faking it, cooking the books, or fabricating evidence
Peak Warming Man said:
In the Com games if you’ve got a cold or covid and you are feeling ok you can compete, apparently.
Aw cool it feels so great to give up
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
In the Com games if you’ve got a cold or covid and you are feeling ok you can compete, apparently.
Aw cool it feels so great to give up
what is this, public health takes effort or hard work or something
SCIENCE said:
pftf anyone appearing to do good is probably lying, faking it, cooking the books, or fabricating evidence
It does stretch credulity somewhat.
Even their current figures seem dubious. They have 2000 cases: they mark 1 of them as serious or critical.
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
pftf anyone appearing to do good is probably lying, faking it, cooking the books, or fabricating evidence
It does stretch credulity somewhat.
Even their current figures seem dubious. They have 2000 cases: they mark 1 of them as serious or critical.
shrug go back 100 years and tell them there would be some 10M km^2 country with no smallpox, poliomyelitis, FMD, varroa, diphtheria cases for decades until 2022 and they’d tell us we were dreaming too
like fk it’sn’t‘sif modern medicine was invented in 2020, not even vaccines
(yeah yeah mRNAv maybe)
buffy said:
dv said:
China is still claiming only about 5300 deaths, and hence just about the lowest Covid death rates in the entire world.
Could be a definition thing. Not all countries are using the same definitions of what is a COVID death.
might assume they test to capture the real numbers, extract the real trend off infections, apprehend the virus for and toward covid zero, dynamic covid zero they call it, seems such an antiquated approach, old fashioned, quite a different approach to liberating it
an embarrassing success china doing that, contradicts the notion it’s too contagious to contain, though it probably is true that of more liberal countries it is too contagious to contain, the easy traffic between continents for example, cheap air travel and lots of it makes it so
but then there’s covid unlimited, that’s going to have a lot of casualties, and it would be quite unnatural that no propaganda was required to make that acceptable, fortunately the more liberal countries are specialists in their own sort of ‘persuasions’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/16/pandemic-statistics-china-are-too-good-be-true/
WAPO noted a few months ago that Shanghai had experienced 300000 cases over a six week period, and zero covid related deaths.
dv said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/16/pandemic-statistics-china-are-too-good-be-true/WAPO noted a few months ago that Shanghai had experienced 300000 cases over a six week period, and zero covid related deaths.
You’re not going to release a virus without having the antidote.
For comparison…
Hong Kong, which has better health care but less government restriction on the media, has about twice the number of deaths as mainland China (9500), despite having about 0.5% of the mainland’s population. Almost all of these occurred during a 2 month period (midFeb to midApr 2022), during which the mainland claims to have incurred no covid-related deaths. Tens of thousand of people cross from HK to the mainland every day.
‘The Economist’ excess deaths study has never had any estimates for China for some reason.
Witty Rejoinder said:
‘The Economist’ excess deaths study has never had any estimates for China for some reason.
As this paper from 2020 lays out, even before Covid the registration of deaths in China was slipshod.
https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-020-01632-8
Witty Rejoinder said:
‘The Economist’ excess deaths study has never had any estimates for China for some reason.
There are a lot of countries for which “excess deaths” has never been calculable.
If I remember correctly, China was one country where excess deaths was available. However, such is meaningless for China after then end of the first wave, since excess deaths in China due to Covid since then have been as close to zero as makes no difference.
OWID has data “excess mortality %”, “excess mortality count” and “excess mortality estimate”.
It’s “excess mortality count” data does not include China.
New Zealand is registering negative excess deaths due to Covid.
No data from Australia.
These are total excess deaths from Covid since the start of 2020.
so what we’re saying is that this 99.99% survival rate for COVID-19 in young fellas without pre-existing conditions in countries with decent access to modern medicine is all bullshit, it’s a cover up, it’s actually a much more lethal disease that nobody except CHINA is wanting to stop
SCIENCE said:
so what we’re saying is that this 99.99% survival rate for COVID-19 in young fellas without pre-existing conditions in countries with decent access to modern medicine is all bullshit, it’s a cover up, it’s actually a much more lethal disease that nobody except CHINA is wanting to stop
Not what I’m saying.
I’m saying that access to modern medicine hasn’t helped as much as it should have. Look at how low the death tolls are throughout Africa.
I’m also saying that young fellas without pre-existing conditions should have been vaccinated first because they spread the disease fastest.
(Runs away).
SCIENCE said:
so what we’re saying is that this 99.99% survival rate for COVID-19 in young fellas without pre-existing conditions in countries with decent access to modern medicine is all bullshit, it’s a cover up, it’s actually a much more lethal disease that nobody except CHINA is wanting to stop
properly when a pathogen were evaluated for endemic status the total illness profile would be considered, not just deaths, the unfortunate thing about focusing on mortality is that the first thing it does is distract from the pathogen causes an injury preceding death, through viral insult and more broadly biological insult, and there’s a lot of injury of course that doesn’t result in death (or more immediate death) still as a category of injury they need be considered together to some extent
i’m not sure humans are overly reliable when considering injury resulting on death, for some reason there appears to be a propensity to vanish the preceding injury, some sort of hoodoo that way
I might point out also that people that sustain injury from covid (including injury resulting in death) that those people in fact have a preexisting vulnerability, which is sort of lost in the hoodoo about preexisting conditions and comorbities
secretly people may be applying the notion of preexisting condition to preexisting vulnerability, people certainly go looking for the preexisting conditions, there’s an enthusiasm that way
all quite dodgy I reckon
the species didn’t sacrifice a few to evolve to this status
LOL
Sweden Flatlines
dv said:
wow fk VIC healthcare is so bad that 100000 Victorians have to wait for surgery in GoldStandardState instead
damn
probably anecdotallies
mysterious
bizarre
Cancer related-genes enriched in peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) of COVID-19 patients. a bioinformatics study
https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1894265/v1
absurd
after 2.5 years, what was known is finally politically performed
wait what the fuck we thought sending children to school with full attendance to be bullied and infected with dementiavirus was necessary and the best thing for their mental and physical wellbeing not to mention their indoctrination education into being good economic units
SCIENCE said:
wait what the fuck we thought sending children to school with full attendance to be bullied and infected with dementiavirus was necessary and the best thing for their mental and physical wellbeing not to mention theirindoctrinationeducation into being good economic units
“Yeah kids Nam was a hell hole, but I sure do tell ya napalm smelt great in the morning”
SCIENCE said:
after 2.5 years, what was known is finally politically performed
by memory, possibly not verbatim, as recall it writ in that page…the gist anyway
‘……..victoria’s chief health officer said ventilation improvements including opening doors and windows could have the same impact as increasing booster vaccinations for covid…’
you see that device by way of use of comparison, tied ventilation into vaccination, dubious incorporation is my view
did civilization reach the point where all language became a device for persuasion, and people lost any capacity for distinction between manipulation and persuasion, I wonder
has great appeal to narcissists i’d speculate, quite an accommodating operating space that way
just an opinion^ is all
SCIENCE said:
probably anecdotallies
the great maiming continues, in the name of liberty
the secret superpandemic
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
after 2.5 years, what was known is finally politically performed
by memory, possibly not verbatim, as recall it writ in that page…the gist anyway
‘……..victoria’s chief health officer said ventilation improvements including opening doors and windows could have the same impact as increasing booster vaccinations for covid…’
you see that device by way of use of comparison, tied ventilation into vaccination, dubious incorporation is my view
did civilization reach the point where all language became a device for persuasion, and people lost any capacity for distinction between manipulation and persuasion, I wonder
has great appeal to narcissists i’d speculate, quite an accommodating operating space that way
just an opinion^ is all
imagine, after 2.5 years, that a newly discovered technology called opening doors and windows could have impact comparable to repeat dosing of expensive medications that people refuse and fear and grift over
transition said:
SCIENCE said:probably anecdotallies
the great maiming continues, in the name of liberty
the secret superpandemic
Polio and monkey pox anyone?
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
after 2.5 years, what was known is finally politically performed
by memory, possibly not verbatim, as recall it writ in that page…the gist anyway
‘……..victoria’s chief health officer said ventilation improvements including opening doors and windows could have the same impact as increasing booster vaccinations for covid…’
you see that device by way of use of comparison, tied ventilation into vaccination, dubious incorporation is my view
did civilization reach the point where all language became a device for persuasion, and people lost any capacity for distinction between manipulation and persuasion, I wonder
has great appeal to narcissists i’d speculate, quite an accommodating operating space that way
just an opinion^ is all
imagine, after 2.5 years, that a newly discovered technology called opening doors and windows could have impact comparable to repeat dosing of expensive medications that people refuse and fear and grift over
ventilation was talked about early in the pandemic as recall, reference was made to some less developed countries having ample ventilation and lower rates of infection, it’s too old fashioned though you know, how are you to be a contemporary social construction if you draw on wisdom from the past, start opening the windows of the controlled environments you’ve become accustomed, contaminate the endeavor with fresh air, sunshine, ideas of nature
it’s a slippery slope you know, the socialization of the children might fail, they’ll revert to wolves, like they were raised by a pack of wolves, a very important thing is socialization, configuring those neurons, who better to do it so than other humans, model humans, and it all starts with detachment from nature and history, helped along by
your feelings of health, your mental states are the product of the good ideas you hold, the right ideas, the correct ideas
thou shalt live with the virus
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-08/non-covid-deaths-are-up-a-significant-amount-this-year/101309930
just reading that^
lovely work by the ABC
transition said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-08/non-covid-deaths-are-up-a-significant-amount-this-year/101309930
just reading that^
lovely work by the ABC
“We can see that for dementia, there’s been around a 20 per cent increase this year of the total number of deaths when we compare it to prior years, and around 18 per cent higher than expected for diabetes,” she said
—-
very interesting
transition said:
just reading that^
lovely work by the ABC
Apparently the one they cite is opposed to measures to reduce transmission.
excellent role modelling, please bring that tennis dickhead back to expound the virtues of natural immunity without vaccines
SCIENCE said:
excellent role modelling, please bring that tennis dickhead back to expound the virtues of natural immunity without vaccines
speaking of Australian athletes here’s another crowd
transition said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-08/non-covid-deaths-are-up-a-significant-amount-this-year/101309930
just reading that^
lovely work by the ABC
Actually, they are working on the ABS figures that I posted here last week.
dv said:
transition said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-08/non-covid-deaths-are-up-a-significant-amount-this-year/101309930
just reading that^
lovely work by the ABC
“We can see that for dementia, there’s been around a 20 per cent increase this year of the total number of deaths when we compare it to prior years, and around 18 per cent higher than expected for diabetes,” she said
—-
very interesting
unfortunate was more the sensation I experienced
transition said:
dv said:
transition said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-08/non-covid-deaths-are-up-a-significant-amount-this-year/101309930
just reading that^
lovely work by the ABC
“We can see that for dementia, there’s been around a 20 per cent increase this year of the total number of deaths when we compare it to prior years, and around 18 per cent higher than expected for diabetes,” she said
—-
very interesting
unfortunate was more the sensation I experienced
Is it unfortunate that these things should happen, or unfortunate that the ABC should publish an article about it?
buffy said:
transition said:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-08/non-covid-deaths-are-up-a-significant-amount-this-year/101309930
just reading that^
lovely work by the ABC
Actually, they are working on the ABS figures that I posted here last week.
I did see that, I was more expressing my joy at the ABC helping everyone into and through the superpandemic, as I see it
speaking of antiscience, here’s some
SCIENCE said:
speaking of antiscience, here’s some
Cold air can be found at ground level, warm air can be found under the ceiling.
The natural tendency is for warm air to rise and cold air to fall.
Ventilation systems should take that into account.
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
by memory, possibly not verbatim, as recall it writ in that page…the gist anyway
‘……..victoria’s chief health officer said ventilation improvements including opening doors and windows could have the same impact as increasing booster vaccinations for covid…’
you see that device by way of use of comparison, tied ventilation into vaccination, dubious incorporation is my view
did civilization reach the point where all language became a device for persuasion, and people lost any capacity for distinction between manipulation and persuasion, I wonder
has great appeal to narcissists i’d speculate, quite an accommodating operating space that way
just an opinion^ is all
imagine, after 2.5 years, that a newly discovered technology called opening doors and windows could have impact comparable to repeat dosing of expensive medications that people refuse and fear and grift over
ventilation was talked about early in the pandemic as recall, reference was made to some less developed countries having ample ventilation and lower rates of infection, it’s too old fashioned though you know, how are you to be a contemporary social construction if you draw on wisdom from the past, start opening the windows of the controlled environments you’ve become accustomed, contaminate the endeavor with fresh air, sunshine, ideas of nature
it’s a slippery slope you know, the socialization of the children might fail, they’ll revert to wolves, like they were raised by a pack of wolves, a very important thing is socialization, configuring those neurons, who better to do it so than other humans, model humans, and it all starts with detachment from nature and history, helped along by
your feelings of health, your mental states are the product of the good ideas you hold, the right ideas, the correct ideas
thou shalt live with the virus
Imagine Taking Action 18 Months Too Late But Just Before An Election
https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/free-masks-keep-victorians-safe-winter
The Andrews Labor Government will provide free N95 and KN95 masks to protect some of the most vulnerable members of our community and help reduce transmission of COVID-19 and other respiratory diseases.
Queensland has peaked as natures disinfectant returns to cleans and warm.
SCIENCE said:
Imagine Taking Action 18 Months Too Late But Just Before An Election
https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/free-masks-keep-victorians-safe-winter
Free Masks To Keep Victorians Safe This Winter
The Andrews Labor Government will provide free N95 and KN95 masks to protect some of the most vulnerable members of our community and help reduce transmission of COVID-19 and other respiratory diseases.
sounds like free circulating covid is dangerous, dear God it might be a similar idea to the CCP have
Peak Warming Man said:
Queensland has peaked as natures disinfectant returns to cleans and warm.
will it change the election result
transition said:
SCIENCE said:Imagine Taking Action 18 Months Too Late But Just Before An Election
https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/free-masks-keep-victorians-safe-winter
Free Masks To Keep Victorians Safe This Winter
The Andrews Labor Government will provide free N95 and KN95 masks to protect some of the most vulnerable members of our community and help reduce transmission of COVID-19 and other respiratory diseases.
sounds like free circulating covid is dangerous, dear God it might be a similar idea to the CCP have
Chairman Dan At It Again
SCIENCE said:
Imagine Taking Action 18 Months Too Late But Just Before An Election
Imagine Spreading Disinformation For 2.5 Years Before Finally Reporting The Best Evidenced Judgement
The claim that virus variants become milder over time is false. Experts confirmed to AAP FactCheck that mutations are chance events and there is no trend for virulence one way or the other, especially where fatality rates are too low to be significant to reproduction, such as in the case of COVID.
https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/diminishing-covid-severity-claim-is-a-strain-on-the-facts/
oh well at least it says
fatality rates are too low to be significant
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Imagine Taking Action 18 Months Too Late But Just Before An Election
https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/free-masks-keep-victorians-safe-winter
Free Masks To Keep Victorians Safe This Winter
The Andrews Labor Government will provide free N95 and KN95 masks to protect some of the most vulnerable members of our community and help reduce transmission of COVID-19 and other respiratory diseases.
sounds like free circulating covid is dangerous, dear God it might be a similar idea to the CCP have
predictably, just as people who never gave a fuck about mental health before suddenly all jumped on the “Lockdowns Cause Mental Health Catastrophe” wagon when people were encouraged to work and learn from home, now that there is encouragement to wear masks, people who never gave a fuck about environmentalism before suddenly all jumped on the “Masks Cause Landfill Disaster And Catastrophic Ocean Pollution” wagon
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:Imagine Taking Action 18 Months Too Late But Just Before An Election
Imagine Spreading Disinformation For 2.5 Years Before Finally Reporting The Best Evidenced Judgement
The claim that virus variants become milder over time is false. Experts confirmed to AAP FactCheck that mutations are chance events and there is no trend for virulence one way or the other, especially where fatality rates are too low to be significant to reproduction, such as in the case of COVID.
https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/diminishing-covid-severity-claim-is-a-strain-on-the-facts/
oh well at least it says
fatality rates are too low to be significant
I think the intention was you were meant to be confused about increased flock or herd immunity and devolved virulence, part of the new world order of blurred
sounds like a puke when spoke, and is a bit like puke
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Imagine Taking Action 18 Months Too Late But Just Before An Election
Imagine Spreading Disinformation For 2.5 Years Before Finally Reporting The Best Evidenced Judgement
The claim that virus variants become milder over time is false. Experts confirmed to AAP FactCheck that mutations are chance events and there is no trend for virulence one way or the other, especially where fatality rates are too low to be significant to reproduction, such as in the case of COVID.
https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/diminishing-covid-severity-claim-is-a-strain-on-the-facts/
oh well at least it says
fatality rates are too low to be significant
I think the intention was you were meant to be confused about increased flock or herd immunity and devolved virulence, part of the new world order of blurred
sounds like a puke when spoke, and is a bit like puke
probably caused by lockdowns
SCIENCE said:
probably caused by lockdowns
fuckin’ labor
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Imagine Spreading Disinformation For 2.5 Years Before Finally Reporting The Best Evidenced Judgement
The claim that virus variants become milder over time is false. Experts confirmed to AAP FactCheck that mutations are chance events and there is no trend for virulence one way or the other, especially where fatality rates are too low to be significant to reproduction, such as in the case of COVID.
https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/diminishing-covid-severity-claim-is-a-strain-on-the-facts/
oh well at least it says
fatality rates are too low to be significant
I think the intention was you were meant to be confused about increased flock or herd immunity and devolved virulence, part of the new world order of blurred
sounds like a puke when spoke, and is a bit like puke
I got the BS from the nurse that gave me my vaccines, in the brief conversation, though there was some uncertainty added, she pointed to hope
apparently it’s how the steady state equilibrium with the current array of cold a flu viruses came about
SCIENCE said:
probably caused by lockdowns
covid unlimited, could be one of the dumbest things the species ever did, and the fact that it’s unknown at this stage whether it could be tends me to think it is already
Does seem to have been a significant decrease in both infections and deaths in Australia
dv said:
Does seem to have been a significant decrease in both infections and deaths in Australia
We had 72 deaths reported today. That’s still up there.
dv said:
Does seem to have been a significant decrease in both infections and deaths in Australia
the larger cost is in the reduction of fitness of individuals and the population caused by covid infection (protracted recovery), sequelae and whatever, and further sequential or repeat infections, and from all that the disruptions (one might argue distortions even)
worst though this is all devolved down (shifted) to largely informal territory that is unlikely to me measured
the modelers could have factored in a lot more than death rates and deaths, but they didn’t, which is corrupt in my opinion, that they weren’t given direction to do so
sibeen said:
dv said:
Does seem to have been a significant decrease in both infections and deaths in Australia
We had 72 deaths reported today. That’s still up there.
IK but a week ago it was hovering around 100
NewsBusiness
Energy bills to hit £4,266 in January after Ofgem changes price cap rules
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/energy-bills-latest-price-cap-ofgem-january-b2141315.html
That’s equivalent to $616 a month.
surprise
COVID-19 threatens to thwart many Queenslanders’ Christmas plans for a third consecutive year, but the New Year brings the hope
oh wait
Experts are warning waves of COVID to continue indefinitely
ih we guess not really surprise, they warned us for like 2.5 years but we(0,1,1) went for flock immunity like the geniuses that were
SCIENCE said:
surprise
COVID-19 threatens to thwart many Queenslanders’ Christmas plans for a third consecutive year, but the New Year brings the hope
oh wait
Experts are warning waves of COVID to continue indefinitely
ih we guess not really surprise, they warned us for like 2.5 years but we(0,1,1) went for flock immunity like the geniuses that were
But, on the good news front, people seem to have got over connecting COVID news with a need to strip supermarkets of toilet paper supplies.
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
probably caused by lockdowns
fuckin’ labor
^
Launceston General Hospital patient dies after being ramped for more than nine hours
wait
…
…
a long time
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:surprise
COVID-19 threatens to thwart many Queenslanders’ Christmas plans for a third consecutive year, but the New Year brings the hope
oh wait
Experts are warning waves of COVID to continue indefinitely
ih we guess not really surprise, they warned us for like 2.5 years but we(0,1,1) went for flock immunity like the geniuses that were
But, on the good news front, people seem to have got over connecting COVID news with a need to strip supermarkets of toilet paper supplies.
… but eggs, on the other face …
At least they recognise that this
The Chinese economy is already facing challenges following more than two years of COVID-zero strategies and the US-China trade war, which have seen businesses struggling and massive lay-offs in the huge tech and real estate sectors.
is economic challenge WITH zero, not FROM zero, but how convenient that what isn’t mentioned is the impact of {25% population loss and disability} on The Economy Must Grow ¡
SCIENCE said:
At least they recognise that this
The Chinese economy is already facing challenges following more than two years of COVID-zero strategies and the US-China trade war, which have seen businesses struggling and massive lay-offs in the huge tech and real estate sectors.
is economic challenge WITH zero, not FROM zero, but how convenient that what isn’t mentioned is the impact of {25% population loss and disability} on The Economy Must Grow ¡
here’s a response from the bloomberg communists
pretty sure they were saying this kind of stuff 2 years ago but hey more evidence is more confidence
Instead of disease severity, loss of smell seems a more promising avenue for predicting who develops persistent cognitive changes after SARS-CoV-2 infection. The presented study results provide an intriguing foundation for further investigation. As described by Dr. Gonzalez-Aleman in Neurology Today, anosmia could be a sign of SARS-CoV-2 infection entering the brain through the olfactory bulb, or a sign of a continuing disease process after infection. With additional research, the hope would be to more thoroughly understand this correlation and thus develop a means to prevent such brain damage.
thus develop a means to prevent such brain damage
We could develop methods to prevent a nasty virus getting to the nose where it can cause loss of smell and then brain damage¿
Now, what on earth might they be¿
Oh we know we can all be mouth breathers¡
LOL
SCIENCE said:
Launceston General Hospital patient dies after being ramped for more than nine hourswait
…
…
a long time
Simple answer: State governments stop pissing billions of dollars up against the wall holding Commonwealth games and Olympic games and funding institutes of sport and building/rebuilding football stadiums and such trying to wrest grand finals and grand prix and similar from each other, and spend it on stuff like, oh, maybe new hospitals and funding more places for medical students who couldn’t afford it otherwise, and making nursing and ancillary health into attractive careers.
And tell the mining companies they’re going to pay big-time, and there’s no government handouts coming back the other way.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:Launceston General Hospital patient dies after being ramped for more than nine hourswait
…
…
a long time
Simple answer: State governments stop pissing billions of dollars up against the wall holding Commonwealth games and Olympic games and funding institutes of sport and building/rebuilding football stadiums and such trying to wrest grand finals and grand prix and similar from each other, and spend it on stuff like, oh, maybe new hospitals and funding more places for medical students who couldn’t afford it otherwise, and making nursing and ancillary health into attractive careers.
And tell the mining companies they’re going to pay big-time, and there’s no government handouts coming back the other way.
Yeah I agree I think those sorts of things have a low priority for spending money on, after everything else is decently funded first
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
At least they recognise that this
The Chinese economy is already facing challenges following more than two years of COVID-zero strategies and the US-China trade war, which have seen businesses struggling and massive lay-offs in the huge tech and real estate sectors.
is economic challenge WITH zero, not FROM zero, but how convenient that what isn’t mentioned is the impact of {25% population loss and disability} on The Economy Must Grow ¡
here’s a response from the bloomberg communists
started having a read, but it’s too early, my neurons aren’t coordinated yet, another few coffees maybe
I did see in there…’……chinese aren’t warmongers……’
funny isn’t it, the word association read chinese warmongers, the act of putting those words in the same sentence puts the idea they could be in the readers heads
and of latter link, anything to distract from the arse falling out of the currency after the final straw of distortions from stimulus on top the global debt monster, fueled by a disastrous program for unlimited covid, a secret superpandemic
transition said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
At least they recognise that this
The Chinese economy is already facing challenges following more than two years of COVID-zero strategies and the US-China trade war, which have seen businesses struggling and massive lay-offs in the huge tech and real estate sectors.
is economic challenge WITH zero, not FROM zero, but how convenient that what isn’t mentioned is the impact of {25% population loss and disability} on The Economy Must Grow ¡
here’s a response from the bloomberg communists
started having a read, but it’s too early, my neurons aren’t coordinated yet, another few coffees maybe
I did see in there…’……chinese aren’t warmongers……’
funny isn’t it, the word association read chinese warmongers, the act of putting those words in the same sentence puts the idea they could be in the readers heads
and of latter link, anything to distract from the arse falling out of the currency after the final straw of distortions from stimulus on top the global debt monster, fueled by a disastrous program for unlimited covid, a secret superpandemic
Empire builders are warmongers regardless of ethnicity.
Cymek said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:here’s a response from the bloomberg communists
started having a read, but it’s too early, my neurons aren’t coordinated yet, another few coffees maybe
I did see in there…’……chinese aren’t warmongers……’
funny isn’t it, the word association read chinese warmongers, the act of putting those words in the same sentence puts the idea they could be in the readers heads
and of latter link, anything to distract from the arse falling out of the currency after the final straw of distortions from stimulus on top the global debt monster, fueled by a disastrous program for unlimited covid, a secret superpandemic
Empire builders are warmongers regardless of ethnicity.
there aren’t a few capitalist empire builders their money roaming the earth looking for returns, be happy to largely dissolve nation states, to further the borderless world
dv said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
Does seem to have been a significant decrease in both infections and deaths in Australia
We had 72 deaths reported today. That’s still up there.
IK but a week ago it was hovering around 100
And today was 132 :(
sibeen said:
dv said:
sibeen said:We had 72 deaths reported today. That’s still up there.
IK but a week ago it was hovering around 100
And today was 132 :(
so how’s the 7 day average looking
sarahs mum said:
Researchers have begun tracking a newly identified virus in China, with dozens of cases recorded so far.
The novel Langya henipavirus (LayV) was first detected in the north-eastern provinces of Shandong and Henan in late 2018 but was only formally identified by scientists last week.
The virus was likely transmitted from animals to humans, scientists said, and Taiwan’s health authority is now monitoring the spread. The researchers tested wild animals and found LayV viral RNA in more than a quarter of 262 shrews, “a finding that suggests that the shrew may be a natural reservoir”. The virus was also detected in 2% of domestic goats and 5% of dogs.
Initial investigations into the virus were outlined in correspondence published by scientists from China, Singapore and Australia in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) last week.
In people, the virus caused symptoms including fever, fatigue, cough, loss of appetite and muscle aches. All of the people infected had a fever, the scientists said. The virus was the only potential pathogen found in 26 of the 35 people, suggesting that “LayV was the cause of febrile illness”.
There have been no deaths from LayV to date. Prof Wang Linfa of the Duke-NUS Medical School, a co-author of the NEJM paper, told the state-run Global Times that the LayV cases had “not been fatal or very serious” so far and that there was “no need for panic”.
more..
It’s nice hey¿
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
It’s nice hey¿
something else nice, this is going well
“However, it is potentially fatal to humans, with more than 30 known deaths recorded worldwide … only one confirmed case of human-to-human transmission.”
possibly better in the monkeypox thread
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
At least they recognise that this
The Chinese economy is already facing challenges following more than two years of COVID-zero strategies and the US-China trade war, which have seen businesses struggling and massive lay-offs in the huge tech and real estate sectors.
is economic challenge WITH zero, not FROM zero, but how convenient that what isn’t mentioned is the impact of {25% population loss and disability} on The Economy Must Grow ¡
here’s a response from the bloomberg communists
Vaccinated and masked college students had virtually no chance of catching Covid-19 in the classroom last fall, according to a sweeping study of 33,000 Boston University students that bolsters standard prevention measures.
Oh Look Healthcare Workers Are Punching Down On Unwell Patients Who Are Just Looking For A Bit Of Solidarity In A Tough Situation
oh oops
fo’ shi’s and gig’s
I was thinking yesterday, and was wondering what some Arab countries do for hand washing & sanitising as some of them have a very strict ban on alcohol in any form. When I was based in Jeddah and did a flight to somewhere out of the country, the customs inspectors would check for it quite thoroughly. To the point where they’d read each box of chocolate to see if there were any liquor chocolates and if so they’d be confiscated.
Spiny Norman said:
I was thinking yesterday, and was wondering what some Arab countries do for hand washing & sanitising as some of them have a very strict ban on alcohol in any form. When I was based in Jeddah and did a flight to somewhere out of the country, the customs inspectors would check for it quite thoroughly. To the point where they’d read each box of chocolate to see if there were any liquor chocolates and if so they’d be confiscated.
Hand-washing and sanitising can be done with things other than alcohol. Alcohol is convenient because it evaporates quickly.
Spiny Norman said:
I was thinking yesterday, and was wondering what some Arab countries do for hand washing & sanitising as some of them have a very strict ban on alcohol in any form. When I was based in Jeddah and did a flight to somewhere out of the country, the customs inspectors would check for it quite thoroughly. To the point where they’d read each box of chocolate to see if there were any liquor chocolates and if so they’d be confiscated.
Must be hard to police it… well motivated people can make alcohol out of amything in the fridge.
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
I was thinking yesterday, and was wondering what some Arab countries do for hand washing & sanitising as some of them have a very strict ban on alcohol in any form. When I was based in Jeddah and did a flight to somewhere out of the country, the customs inspectors would check for it quite thoroughly. To the point where they’d read each box of chocolate to see if there were any liquor chocolates and if so they’d be confiscated.
Hand-washing and sanitising can be done with things other than alcohol. Alcohol is convenient because it evaporates quickly.
There’s also isopropyl alcohol (2-propanone)
dv said:
Spiny Norman said:
I was thinking yesterday, and was wondering what some Arab countries do for hand washing & sanitising as some of them have a very strict ban on alcohol in any form. When I was based in Jeddah and did a flight to somewhere out of the country, the customs inspectors would check for it quite thoroughly. To the point where they’d read each box of chocolate to see if there were any liquor chocolates and if so they’d be confiscated.
Must be hard to police it… well motivated people can make alcohol out of amything in the fridge.
presumably methylated alcohol is acceptable?
dv said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
I was thinking yesterday, and was wondering what some Arab countries do for hand washing & sanitising as some of them have a very strict ban on alcohol in any form. When I was based in Jeddah and did a flight to somewhere out of the country, the customs inspectors would check for it quite thoroughly. To the point where they’d read each box of chocolate to see if there were any liquor chocolates and if so they’d be confiscated.
Hand-washing and sanitising can be done with things other than alcohol. Alcohol is convenient because it evaporates quickly.
There’s also isopropyl alcohol (2-propanone)
It’s got the world alcohol in it, so it’d be banned.
transition said:
dv said:
Spiny Norman said:
I was thinking yesterday, and was wondering what some Arab countries do for hand washing & sanitising as some of them have a very strict ban on alcohol in any form. When I was based in Jeddah and did a flight to somewhere out of the country, the customs inspectors would check for it quite thoroughly. To the point where they’d read each box of chocolate to see if there were any liquor chocolates and if so they’d be confiscated.
Must be hard to police it… well motivated people can make alcohol out of amything in the fridge.
presumably methylated alcohol is acceptable?
few those countries are big exporters of
imagine the outrage over sugar which has hydroxylated carbons all throughout it
Spiny Norman said:
I was thinking yesterday, and was wondering what some Arab countries do for hand washing & sanitising as some of them have a very strict ban on alcohol in any form. When I was based in Jeddah and did a flight to somewhere out of the country, the customs inspectors would check for it quite thoroughly. To the point where they’d read each box of chocolate to see if there were any liquor chocolates and if so they’d be confiscated.
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
I was thinking yesterday, and was wondering what some Arab countries do for hand washing & sanitising as some of them have a very strict ban on alcohol in any form. When I was based in Jeddah and did a flight to somewhere out of the country, the customs inspectors would check for it quite thoroughly. To the point where they’d read each box of chocolate to see if there were any liquor chocolates and if so they’d be confiscated.
Hand-washing and sanitising can be done with things other than alcohol. Alcohol is convenient because it evaporates quickly.
In Brunei, there’s a sort of blanket ban on alcohol. You can’t buy an alcoholic drink anywhere. You (non-Muslims only) can have alcohol in your home for personal consumption, which you bring in yourself (4 litres of wine/spirits and 12 cans of beer per person) , but that’s it, and no drunkenness allowed anywhere, even at home. No drinking anywhere except at home.
Spiny Norman said:
dv said:
Michael V said:Hand-washing and sanitising can be done with things other than alcohol. Alcohol is convenient because it evaporates quickly.
There’s also isopropyl alcohol (2-propanone)
It’s got the world alcohol in it, so it’d be banned.
Holy shit.
dv said:
Spiny Norman said:
I was thinking yesterday, and was wondering what some Arab countries do for hand washing & sanitising as some of them have a very strict ban on alcohol in any form. When I was based in Jeddah and did a flight to somewhere out of the country, the customs inspectors would check for it quite thoroughly. To the point where they’d read each box of chocolate to see if there were any liquor chocolates and if so they’d be confiscated.
Must be hard to police it… well motivated people can make alcohol out of amything in the fridge.
When I arrived in Jeddah in 1981 the supermarket used to stock barley and yeast next to each other.
Then someone caught on what people were doing with barley and yeast so they moved them to different shelves, but still freely available.
Then there was the whole Embassy privaleges thing. To quote a G&S spoof from an ex-pat amateur theatrical company:
Then there’s minor embassy officials who thing that Jeddah life is rather good,
It cannot be the water, and it’s certainly not the food
lololololol but anyway we think mollwollfumble has a thread for this shit
Soap and water can be an effective sanitiser.
dv said:
Spiny Norman said:
dv said:There’s also isopropyl alcohol (2-propanone)
It’s got the world alcohol in it, so it’d be banned.
Holy shit.
Slightly ironic, considering that the word ‘alcohol’ has Arabic origins.
Michael V said:
Soap and water can be an effective sanitiser.
I figured that’s what they must be using. And I guess that the hospitals must use a lot of strong UV machines to sterilise the various surgical and other things.
I remember that one of our planes had a snap inspection in Madinah and they found a box of beer cans tucked away in the nose near the big box that the nosewheel folds up into. The crew were grilled about it but none of them knew anything about it. So no prison for them. I think the reason the beer had been in there was that someone in Europe put it in there months earlier but either forgot about it or the plane never arrived where someone was arranged to pick it up.
And one of the American chaps I shared a unit with had his entire bedroom full of gear to make alcoholic drinks Sadiki I think was one some pretty average beer, and maybe some rough wine as well. I pretended to not know about any of it and fortunately he was never raided.
Surgical instruments are generally autoclaved.
ah so it’s back to this
bastard ASIANS always so uppity and superior
Even A Broken Promise Is Right Of The Centre
https://twitter.com/watinthe_/status/1557384271048097792
A Labor Government will deliver $440 million to schools for better ventilation, building upgrades, and mental health support, as part of a new plan to help Australian kids bounce back after COVID. Labor’s plan including the Schools Upgrade Fund and Student Wellbeing Boost will make sure our schools are better prepared, not just for this term but for the future. The Morrison-Joyce Government doesn’t have a plan for next week, let alone next year. Labor won’t make that mistake.
SCIENCE said:
Even A Broken Promise Is Right Of The Centre
https://twitter.com/watinthe_/status/1557384271048097792
A Labor Government will deliver $440 million to schools for better ventilation, building upgrades, and mental health support, as part of a new plan to help Australian kids bounce back after COVID. Labor’s plan including the Schools Upgrade Fund and Student Wellbeing Boost will make sure our schools are better prepared, not just for this term but for the future. The Morrison-Joyce Government doesn’t have a plan for next week, let alone next year. Labor won’t make that mistake.
Sewer rat sam is a gas gas gas
fknlol
dudes out there using this to claim that masks don’t work because oh look boom and ASIANS wear masks
other dudes out in similar places using this to claim that masks don’t work see even Japan got rid of them
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/backstories/2006/
oh wait
SCIENCE said:
fknloldudes out there using this to claim that masks don’t work because oh look boom and ASIANS wear masks
other dudes out in similar places using this to claim that masks don’t work see even Japan got rid of them
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/backstories/2006/
oh wait
went had look at that last, soon as people get a notion of living with it, the numbers grow and sway things in that direction, doesn’t take much, even a mild ‘relaxation’ of restrictions
the noises across borders was to do it, for international sameness, the worldist convergence, often called diversity, inclusivity of diversity, but doubt it tends that really
optimism
Nobody argues we should learn to live with polio.
LOL
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56272829
Budget 2021: Covid deaths set to cut state pension costs
The amount the government has to spend on state pensions will fall by £1.5bn by 2022, partly because of over-65s dying of Covid, forecasts suggest. The government will also receive an extra £0.9bn from inheritance tax, partly due to Covid-related deaths.
ah for the good old days when people looked after each other
wait
SCIENCE said:
ah for the good old days when people
simply lied about flock immunity and silver vaccine bullets and other people simply and blindly believed them
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-12/covid-pandemic-emma-mcbryde-interview/101320990
Striking Drop in Stress Hormone Predicts Long Covid in Study
ByJason Gale
11 August 2022 at 17:18 GMT+10
Striking decreases in the stress hormone cortisol were the strongest predictor for who develops long Covid in new research that identified several potential drivers of the lingering symptoms afflicting millions of survivors.
Levels of cortisol in the blood of those with the so-called post Covid-19 condition were roughly half those found in healthy, uninfected people or individuals who fully recovered from the pandemic disease, researchers at Yale School of Medicine in Connecticut and the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in New York found.
No one knows yet what causes the constellation of symptoms, often termed long Covid, that afflict some 10% to 20% of people after the acute phase of infection from SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19. The US government is spending more than $1 billion to learn why it occurs and to devise strategies to treat and prevent the condition.
One avenue for research is the endocrine system, which produces hormones like cortisol that affect every part of the body, including inflammation and metabolism. Cortisol helps control mood, motivation, and fear. Low levels can cause fatigue, muscle weakness, gastrointestinal upsets and hypotension, according to the Mayo Clinic.
Low cortisol has been reported in people with myalgic encephalomyelitis, or chronic fatigue syndrome, and boosting it with hydrocortisone treatment has provided a modest improvement in symptoms, researchers Akiko Iwasaki, David Putrino and their co-authors wrote in the study, released ahead of peer-review and publication on Aug. 10.
The Yale-Mount Sinai group used comprehensive immune “phenotyping,” patient surveys and machine learning to identify differences in people with and without long Covid following infection during the pandemic’s first wave in 2020. Fatigue, “brain fog,” and problems with the autonomic nervous systems were the most common ailments debilitating sufferers more than a year later.
Low cortisol, coupled with increased levels of two proteins — IL-8 and galectin-1 — could potentially be used in a set of biomarkers to objectively identify those with long Covid, the authors said.
Data from the group points to remnants of the virus persisting in the body, reactivation of latent herpesviruses and chronic inflammation as potential causes, Iwasaki, a professor of immunobiology and molecular, cellular, and developmental biology at Yale, said in a series of Twitter posts.
The study involved 215 people, including 99 with long Covid. Forty were part of a healthy, uninfected control group, while the remainder had been infected but fully recovered. Although the study was small, exploratory in nature and requires validation, it will help inform the development of strategies to diagnose and treat long Covid, she said.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-11/striking-drop-in-stress-hormone-predicts-long-covid-in-study?
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
surprise
COVID-19 threatens to thwart many Queenslanders’ Christmas plans for a third consecutive year, but the New Year brings the hope
oh wait
Experts are warning waves of COVID to continue indefinitely
ih we guess not really surprise, they warned us for like 2.5 years but we(0,1,1) went for flock immunity like the geniuses that were
But, on the good news front, people seem to have got over connecting COVID news with a need to strip supermarkets of toilet paper supplies.
… but eggs, on the other face …
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
But, on the good news front, people seem to have got over connecting COVID news with a need to strip supermarkets of toilet paper supplies.
… but eggs, on the other face …
people were gifted something, it were sold this way, gifted diminished responsibility, it’s in the words global pandemic
of course it’s not entirely global, never has been, it would even be a stretch to say it’s nearly completely global
but people think of it as a global pandemic, and do their part to make it so, media helps
end of the day what people will get is a pandemic – have got – a superpandemic in fact, but a pandemic of what exactly
what might you accept along with internationalized disease
we mean it is kind of funny when you think about it and laugh the fuck out loud
transition said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
… but eggs, on the other face …
people were gifted something, it were sold this way, gifted diminished responsibility, it’s in the words global pandemic
of course it’s not entirely global, never has been, it would even be a stretch to say it’s nearly completely global
but people think of it as a global pandemic, and do their part to make it so, media helps
end of the day what people will get is a pandemic – have got – a superpandemic in fact, but a pandemic of what exactly
what might you accept along with internationalized disease
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-12/why-are-covid-variants-so-dangerous/14018122
I just watches that^ courtesy my friend the ABC, no mention of the superpandemic, imagine my surprise re that, I was further surprised by the term variants being used a lot, sort of vanishes from your mind that not much has changed really, it’s still covid, largely the same troubles apply as day one in china, though I notice china aren’t knowingly growing the virus in a petri dish of eight billion humans, they’re not that fucken stupid
LOL
https://twitter.com/EmergencyBod/status/1557755318758686720
The planning.
The preparation.
The announcement.
The delivery.
The self congratulations.
You can just see it.
And all for every single member of staff receiving to go:
“WTF is this? Are they taking the piss?”
SCIENCE said:
LOLhttps://twitter.com/EmergencyBod/status/1557755318758686720
The planning.
The preparation.
The announcement.
The delivery.
The self congratulations.You can just see it.
And all for every single member of staff receiving to go:
“WTF is this? Are they taking the piss?”
That is funny. I love the HR department and senior managers in all companies.
The Economy Must Grow ¡
The Economy Will Grow ¡¡
oops
https://www.siasat.com/strange-bleeding-disease-akin-to-ebola-kills-3-in-tanzania-2370504/
The 13 Tanzanian patients, from the Lindi region, showed symptoms similar to Ebola or Marburg — fever, severe headaches, fatigue and bleeding, especially from the nose, Daily Mail reported. But according to the country’s Health Ministry, preliminary lab test results have ruled out Ebola and Marburg viruses as well as Covid virus from these cases.
SCIENCE said:
Finally Solved
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56272829
Budget 2021: Covid deaths set to cut state pension costs
The amount the government has to spend on state pensions will fall by £1.5bn by 2022, partly because of over-65s dying of Covid, forecasts suggest. The government will also receive an extra £0.9bn from inheritance tax, partly due to Covid-related deaths.
ah for the good old days when people looked after each other
wait
ah well luckily the world is only officially about halfway there with this latest round
probably paid for by CHINA the dirty bastards
fuckin’ Let It Rip® yeah baby
Health authorities in New South Wales are urging anyone who was at the recent Splendour in the Grass music festival to be on alert, after a probable third case of meningococcal disease.
fuck, imagine if there was a way to
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-13/phone-learning-developing-nations-covid-19/101326670
deliver remote learning by electronic means, something like téléphones and radios and other similar shit, we could even call it a School, if transmitted through the atmosphere it could be referred to as being Of The Air, it might even work in Australia, and become a thing
SCIENCE said:
probably paid for by CHINA the dirty bastards
https://fb.watch/eSXm6swoxb/
Media Watch on the Wuhan wet market papers
SCIENCE said:
probably paid for by CHINA the dirty bastards
probably (many of, people within) the countries with a plan to normalize wild unlimited covid have an interest in persistence of rumors about a china lab leak, or worse, the possibility of
strange business, while those speculations persisted a plan was hatched (and modeled) to visit covid on anyone and everyone in Australia, similar elsewhere across the planet
fortunate there’s not another planet in the solar system with life on it, humans would likely enthusiastically take covid there just so travelers weren’t inconvenienced by quarantine etc
as a thought exercise it probably demonstrates something
I wonder what a subordinate plague might look like, what purpose it might serve
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
probably paid for by CHINA the dirty bastards
https://fb.watch/eSXm6swoxb/
Media Watch on the Wuhan wet market papers
though in fairness that Rasmussen kid is something of a crackpot so who knows really
transition said:
another planet in the solar system with life on it, humans would likely enthusiastically take covid there just so travelers weren’t inconvenienced by quarantine
woah dude who are you trying to kid humans would specifically take it there to fuck up the existing life and then travellers can profit from the riches newly liberated
How very disappointing!
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A scientist in the public eye has taken her own life. This has to be a wake-up call
Devi Sridhar – Yesterday 8:37 pm
Lisa-Maria Kellermayr, an Austrian GP, was a doctor who dedicated her life to her patients and was vocal about the risks of Covid-19 on Twitter and in the media. She had endured months of death threats from Covid conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers. Colleagues expressed frustration with the lack of support she received for dealing with the daily abuse. Last month, Kellermayr took her own life.
When the news of Kellermayr’s death was shared among the medical community, the reaction was one of sadness but little surprise. During the pandemic, scientists have suffered huge amounts of abuse and blame while just trying to do their jobs.
I suffered far less than many of my colleagues, but still got my share of online attacks during the pandemic. I was targeted in tweets, YouTube videos, blogs, viral Facebook posts and malicious revisions to my Wikipedia page. Someone pointed to a talk about global health I gave in 2018 as evidence that I had caused the Covid-19 pandemic as part of the “deep state”. The attacks came from all directions: anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers, conspiracy theorists, anti-Bill Gates, anti-Wellcome Trust, anti-medicine, anti-Scottish government, anti-Tory politicians, all muddled together in puzzling ways.
In the field of public health, academics spend their lifetimes researching problems, trying to find solutions that can save people’s lives and providing advice about how to stop people getting ill. Science is not about getting famous, but about building knowledge. The job involves teaching the next generation, doing research, hopefully getting robust results and sharing these with others in the discipline. Covid-19 suddenly put scientists in the spotlight. I don’t think anyone working in global public health expected the backlash they experienced during the pandemic. Those working in public health are usually the good guys.
In the face of a deadly virus that required an exceptional response, scientists became an easy scapegoat. Of course they are not responsible for the losses and collective trauma suffered during the pandemic. Even with the stringent measures that were put in place to delay the spread of Covid-19, the virus still caused more than 200,000 deaths in Britain and more than a million in the United States. In the UK, the crucial issue was always the collapse of the NHS. It’s easy to forget that healthcare services are limited until a loved one needs care. And it’s easy to blame GPs and doctors for waiting times without realising the long hours they work.
Many doctors, scientists and medical professionals have stepped back from the field because they decided that it’s not worth the personal cost. GPs, nurses and trained medical professionals are exhausted and burnt out, and an estimated 7,000 health workers are leaving the NHS every month. Scientists I have spoken with increasingly decline interviews about vaccines on TV and with newspapers because they are wary of the backlash they may receive from anti-vaxxers.
This has created a vacuum where expert communication should be. In its place, pseudo-celebrities are building major followings on platforms such as Twitter, where they’re spreading insidious rubbish, such as the myth that vaccinations involve micro-chipping individuals or that Covid-19 is part of a global hoax. This builds anger and resentment, but it does nothing to improve society or people’s wellbeing.
Unfortunately, many people now associate public health with restrictions and lockdowns. Infection disease management has always been about identifying what’s making someone ill, trying to figure out how transmission is happening, identifying measures to stop this before more people get ill and developing vaccinations and treatments. But in many people’s minds, because of the exceptional Covid-19 response, it’s now become synonymous with the shutdown of whole sectors, of stay-at-home orders and severe restrictions on mobility and individual freedoms.
Some people who abuse public health experts and scientists have faced consequences: one man who emailed death threats to White House Covid-19 adviser Tony Fauci was given a three-year prison sentence. This should be widely reported so it is a warning to others that there are real penalties for threatening people, either online or in real life. A partial solution could be found in banning anonymous online accounts. If people had to use their real name on social media, it’s hard to imagine they would feel so empowered in hurling abuse at scientists. This would also get rid of the flood of bots.
Institutional support for scientists is also essential, not just from employers but also from their colleagues. In cases where abuse becomes really serious, such as death threats and hate speech, scientists and health workers should feel able to go to the police. Those in the public eye should not be blamed for receiving abuse because they decided to go on television or tweeted something. If someone is bringing attention to an important issue and sharing information based on their expertise, this should be seen as a public service. And those individuals should be protected. As the case of Kellermayr shows, we need legal and structural change now to protect those trying to make a valuable contribution to society
oops
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/aug/11/hospital-waiting-lists-in-england-reach-record-high
ah well at least that should save some money
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ah well at least that should save some money
focusing on deaths has never lent to a good profile or characterization of covid-related pathology, more lends to misrepresentation
makes me wonder what is, what the appeal is of the alive/dead conceptual binary, has me speculating it’s involved in some device that gives ideology power
and I think it is, the conceptual binary is evidence of an ideological device, an instrument
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/a-pandemic-worse-than-covid-19-could-strike-within-a-decade-these-steps-would-help-us-cope/t0xvb0hmt
amongst lot of other news, my reading, some good work by SBS for master science maybe
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https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/a-pandemic-worse-than-covid-19-could-strike-within-a-decade-these-steps-would-help-us-cope/t0xvb0hmtamongst lot of other news, my reading, some good work by SBS for master science maybe
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/aug/14/long-covid-clinic-wait-times-blow-out-as-health-experts-call-for-national-approach-to-condition
and here above advocacy for a national register maybe, to help the maimed with a formalization, I notice too around the place a tendency to call this current situation the winter omicron wave, or something like that, as if winter caused it, caused by the weather I guess, part of nature maybe
i’d suggest it was largely a de-masking-induced phenomenon, but don’t mind me, i’m in a contrary mood
not my place to question the live-virus-booster immunization strategy
transition said:
amongst lot of other news, my reading, some good work by SBS for master science maybe
did they mention the willingness with which the population would side with the enemy
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transition said:
amongst lot of other news, my reading, some good work by SBS for master science maybe
did they mention the willingness with which the population would side with the enemy
I thought it somewhat presumptuous some might sow the seeds of how not-so-bad covid is already, ‘confident’ enough that way, and I asked my self what purpose that may serve
and what a wonderful thing is comparison, all being relative, even instrumentally relative to whatever ends, whatever objective
transition said:
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transition said:
amongst lot of other news, my reading, some good work by SBS for master science maybe
did they mention the willingness with which the population would side with the enemy
I thought it somewhat presumptuous some might sow the seeds of how not-so-bad covid is already, ‘confident’ enough that way, and I asked my self what purpose that may serve
and what a wonderful thing is comparison, all being relative, even instrumentally relative to whatever ends, whatever objective
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transition said:
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did they mention the willingness with which the population would side with the enemy
I thought it somewhat presumptuous some might sow the seeds of how not-so-bad covid is already, ‘confident’ enough that way, and I asked my self what purpose that may serve
and what a wonderful thing is comparison, all being relative, even instrumentally relative to whatever ends, whatever objective
- paediatric deaths double
- “¡but hardly any children die, their risk is like 1/100 compared to unproductive expensive pensioners!”
- fuck yeah let it RRRRRRRRRRRRRip®¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
the great maiming continues, the decided-too-contagious-to-contain, the secret superpandemic
the deaths are the smaller dimension of the awful in progress, with no end in sight
superior humans used to Freedom® and Privilege® surprised that countries labelled as authoritarian police states actually enforce public health orders authoritatively
His videos show a long line of officials dressed in PPE standing in a large semi-circle lining the entrance of the hotel, as well as a number of guests gathered in the lobby. In the videos, he said people were trying to get out of the hotel after 11 positive cases were detected among hotel staff. “Everyone’s rebelling, everyone’s protesting to get out of the hotel … just panicking, shouting and screaming,” he said. “The government and police had to come to control the situation and not let guests leave.”
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superior humans used to Freedom® and Privilege® surprised that countries labelled as authoritarian police states actually enforce public health orders authoritativelyHis videos show a long line of officials dressed in PPE standing in a large semi-circle lining the entrance of the hotel, as well as a number of guests gathered in the lobby. In the videos, he said people were trying to get out of the hotel after 11 positive cases were detected among hotel staff. “Everyone’s rebelling, everyone’s protesting to get out of the hotel … just panicking, shouting and screaming,” he said. “The government and police had to come to control the situation and not let guests leave.”
the UK isn’t a bit fucked, perhaps he can go home help fix those problems
roughbarked said:
ah
“I think if people get complacent, having thought they’ve achieved something by now and stop doing all of those things, then there’s every chance that they will go off and get infected, probably in the not-too-distance future.”
And to think at one stage we were even trying to eliminate it until Gladys said this is bloody nuts and everybody kicked the dirt and said, yeah you’re right.
I think the states and federal governments can all consider they did a pretty good job in controlling the infections up til the point where vaccinations topped 98%. Not that I can’t find anything to criticise in Dan or Gladys or Scott’s actions but “all things considered”, job done.
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roughbarked said:
ah
“I think if people get complacent, having thought they’ve achieved something by now and stop doing all of those things, then there’s every chance that they will go off and get infected, probably in the not-too-distance future.”
interesting business reconciling the hundreds of millions of cases of long covid into the future, and longer-onset dimension that may emerge, the great maiming
plenty predispositions to study, plenty data to be got, some people love data, can’t get enough of it, happy to generate more
granted it’s not quite gypsies and gays etc, no herding, it’s more an outdoor event, more dispersed and random, indiscriminate, and death is not so much the objective, but zombies maybe are useful
perhaps call it The Great Zombification
sounds catchy
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
And to think at one stage we were even trying to eliminate it until Gladys said this is bloody nuts and everybody kicked the dirt and said, yeah you’re right.
I think the states and federal governments can all consider they did a pretty good job in controlling the infections up til the point where vaccinations topped 98%. Not that I can’t find anything to criticise in Dan or Gladys or Scott’s actions but “all things considered”, job done.
ah well it’s a bit like those people smugglers, you pay us your life savings, we’ll take you all the way to your green pastures, once you’re 98% of the way there, hands off and you can deal with the border patrols yourselves
transition said:
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roughbarked said:
ah
“I think if people get complacent, having thought they’ve achieved something by now and stop doing all of those things, then there’s every chance that they will go off and get infected, probably in the not-too-distance future.”
interesting business reconciling the hundreds of millions of cases of long covid into the future, and longer-onset dimension that may emerge, the great maiming
plenty predispositions to study, plenty data to be got, some people love data, can’t get enough of it, happy to generate more
granted it’s not quite gypsies and gays etc, no herding, it’s more an outdoor event, more dispersed and random, indiscriminate, and death is not so much the objective, but zombies maybe are useful
perhaps call it The Great Zombification
sounds catchy
It’s not entirely bad say if Covid was engineered not to kill or not the main reason anyway but to blunt humanities self destructive ways, repress the need to reproduce to slow down population growth, etc
Cymek said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:ah
“I think if people get complacent, having thought they’ve achieved something by now and stop doing all of those things, then there’s every chance that they will go off and get infected, probably in the not-too-distance future.”
interesting business reconciling the hundreds of millions of cases of long covid into the future, and longer-onset dimension that may emerge, the great maiming
plenty predispositions to study, plenty data to be got, some people love data, can’t get enough of it, happy to generate more
granted it’s not quite gypsies and gays etc, no herding, it’s more an outdoor event, more dispersed and random, indiscriminate, and death is not so much the objective, but zombies maybe are useful
perhaps call it The Great Zombification
sounds catchy
It’s not entirely bad say if Covid was engineered not to kill or not the main reason anyway but to blunt humanities self destructive ways, repress the need to reproduce to slow down population growth, etc
Tamb said:
Cymek said:
transition said:interesting business reconciling the hundreds of millions of cases of long covid into the future, and longer-onset dimension that may emerge, the great maiming
plenty predispositions to study, plenty data to be got, some people love data, can’t get enough of it, happy to generate more
granted it’s not quite gypsies and gays etc, no herding, it’s more an outdoor event, more dispersed and random, indiscriminate, and death is not so much the objective, but zombies maybe are useful
perhaps call it The Great Zombification
sounds catchy
It’s not entirely bad say if Covid was engineered not to kill or not the main reason anyway but to blunt humanities self destructive ways, repress the need to reproduce to slow down population growth, etc
That would make it a Good Thing.
G
whitewash
oh wait
pheique kniuwhsz
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whitewash
oh wait
Hehe
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pheique kniuwhsz
Laugh Out Loud
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
whitewash
oh wait
Hehe
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‘…put the country on a crisis footing …’
dear God, with the ideology at work presently that could invite crisis and perpetuate them
it’s that bad, turned evil, the work of Satan
crisis are intentionally being used these days to accelerate global transformation, core part of the manifesto
ahahahahahahahaha fucking ahahahahahaha
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(22)00260-7/fulltext
We identified 1 487 712 patients with a recorded diagnosis of COVID-19 during the study period, … most outcomes had HRs significantly greater than 1 after 6 months (with the exception of encephalitis; Guillain-Barré syndrome; nerve, nerve root, and plexus disorder; and parkinsonism), their risk horizons and time to equal incidence varied greatly. Risks of the common psychiatric disorders returned to baseline after 1–2 months (mood disorders at 43 days, anxiety disorders at 58 days) and subsequently reached an equal overall incidence to the matched comparison group (mood disorders at 457 days, anxiety disorders at 417 days). By contrast, risks of cognitive deficit (known as brain fog), dementia, psychotic disorders, and epilepsy or seizures were still increased at the end of the 2-year follow-up period. … children were not at an increased risk of mood (HR 1·02 ) disorders, but did have an increased risk of cognitive deficit, insomnia, intracranial haemorrhage, ischaemic stroke, nerve, nerve root, and plexus disorders, psychotic disorders, and epilepsy or seizures (HRs ranging from 1·20 to 2·16 ). Unlike adults, cognitive deficit in children had a finite risk horizon (75 days) and a finite time to equal incidence (491 days). A sizeable proportion of older adults who received a neurological or psychiatric diagnosis, in either cohort, subsequently died, especially those diagnosed with dementia or epilepsy or seizures. Risk profiles were similar just before versus just after the emergence of the alpha variant (n=47 675 in each cohort). Just after (vs just before) the emergence of the delta variant (n=44 835 in each cohort), increased risks of ischaemic stroke, epilepsy or seizures, cognitive deficit, insomnia, and anxiety disorders were observed, compounded by an increased death rate. With omicron (n=39 845 in each cohort), there was a lower death rate than just before emergence of the variant, but the risks of neurological and psychiatric outcomes remained similar.
Fucking Laugh Out Loud
fk what a bunch of
A teenager recovering from cancer has been forced to wait more than 27 hours in a hospital hallway for a bed in another example of the crisis facing Victoria’s health system.
“When she learned his history — that he had just finished six months of chemo for Hodgkins lymphoma and we’d been waiting for 27 hours — she just fell to the ground.” The mother was quick to praise the determined efforts of nurses and doctors at the hospital, acknowledging it was out of their control, but admitted leaving her son in the hallway had left her extremely anxious.
Eastern Health executive director of clinical operations Shannon Wight said she was unable to comment on the specific situation, but acknowledged the demands on Eastern Health hospitals as a result of “deferred care, influenza and COVID-19”.
lies, obviously it was the lockdowns
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fk what a bunch ofA teenager recovering from cancer has been forced to wait more than 27 hours in a hospital hallway for a bed in another example of the crisis facing Victoria’s health system.
“When she learned his history — that he had just finished six months of chemo for Hodgkins lymphoma and we’d been waiting for 27 hours — she just fell to the ground.” The mother was quick to praise the determined efforts of nurses and doctors at the hospital, acknowledging it was out of their control, but admitted leaving her son in the hallway had left her extremely anxious.
Eastern Health executive director of clinical operations Shannon Wight said she was unable to comment on the specific situation, but acknowledged the demands on Eastern Health hospitals as a result of “deferred care, influenza and COVID-19”.
lies, obviously it was the lockdowns
hope the ABC’s not trying to distract from obscene levels of community infection and transmission of covid, nah I doubt it, no sane person encourages or would distract from that
good times remember
oh shit better change the name can’t have this Egyptian-sounding thing maybe we should call it the Blessed Denial Virus or something instead
spawning pool
Not trying to polish a turd but it does seem as though infections/week and current cases are about half what they were 3 weeks ago, and deaths/week are significantly down from 2 weeks ago, so perhaps we’re past the worst of this wave.
dv said:
Not trying to polish a turd but it does seem as though infections/week and current cases are about half what they were 3 weeks ago, and deaths/week are significantly down from 2 weeks ago, so perhaps we’re past the worst of this wave.
More sunlight.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Not trying to polish a turd but it does seem as though infections/week and current cases are about half what they were 3 weeks ago, and deaths/week are significantly down from 2 weeks ago, so perhaps we’re past the worst of this wave.
More sunlight.
different kind of wave
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Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Not trying to polish a turd but it does seem as though infections/week and current cases are about half what they were 3 weeks ago, and deaths/week are significantly down from 2 weeks ago, so perhaps we’re past the worst of this wave.
More sunlight.
different kind of wave
i’d like to know how the media can get away with reporting covid infection numbers that are so wildly inaccurate, such an undermeasure – an undercapture – as to in fact be a misrepresentation
no small misrepresentation, I mean numbers that are worse than useless
of course the difference between real numbers and the unrepresentative numbers are what gets you unlimited wild covid, lets it go, so are useful that way
reported covid infection numbers have been meaningless for a long time now
that was the objective, capture fade if you like
been a program of measure fade also to do with deaths related, from what I see
I guess it will all come out in the excess deaths later, and long covid numbers, but I guess the latter will have a large under-capture dimension as to be misrepresentative, they won’t all be emerging to volunteer as targets for the firing squad of inevitability
so continues our friends overdetermination and undetermination, the good work of ideology, some of its favorite territory
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Peak Warming Man said:
More sunlight.
different kind of wave
i’d like to know how the media can get away with reporting covid infection numbers that are so wildly inaccurate, such an undermeasure – an undercapture – as to in fact be a misrepresentation
no small misrepresentation, I mean numbers that are worse than useless
of course the difference between real numbers and the unrepresentative numbers are what gets you unlimited wild covid, lets it go, so are useful that way
reported covid infection numbers have been meaningless for a long time now
that was the objective, capture fade if you like
been a program of measure fade also to do with deaths related, from what I see
I guess it will all come out in the excess deaths later, and long covid numbers, but I guess the latter will have a large under-capture dimension as to be misrepresentative, they won’t all be emerging to volunteer as targets for the firing squad of inevitability
so continues our friends overdetermination and undetermination, the good work of ideology, some of its favorite territory
but do you agree that to be in “waves” it must rise and fall and therefore there is little to be gained from speculating as to the decline unless there is an accompanying shift in strategic focus to actually ensure it is a terminal decline
sorry no you goddamn fools according to pretty much the history of life on earth the natural state is for humans not to exist so
oooooooo-fucking-ps
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sorry no you goddamn fools according to pretty much the history of life on earth the natural state is for humans not to exist so
How many “cave people” lived in caves I wonder
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sorry no you goddamn fools according to pretty much the history of life on earth the natural state is for humans not to exist so
Exactly, if nature was left alone there’d be no humans.
shakes fist at God
dv said:
Not trying to polish a turd but it does seem as though infections/week and current cases are about half what they were 3 weeks ago, and deaths/week are significantly down from 2 weeks ago, so perhaps we’re past the worst of this wave.
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
different kind of wave
i’d like to know how the media can get away with reporting covid infection numbers that are so wildly inaccurate, such an undermeasure – an undercapture – as to in fact be a misrepresentation
no small misrepresentation, I mean numbers that are worse than useless
of course the difference between real numbers and the unrepresentative numbers are what gets you unlimited wild covid, lets it go, so are useful that way
reported covid infection numbers have been meaningless for a long time now
that was the objective, capture fade if you like
been a program of measure fade also to do with deaths related, from what I see
I guess it will all come out in the excess deaths later, and long covid numbers, but I guess the latter will have a large under-capture dimension as to be misrepresentative, they won’t all be emerging to volunteer as targets for the firing squad of inevitability
so continues our friends overdetermination and undetermination, the good work of ideology, some of its favorite territory
but do you agree that to be in “waves” it must rise and fall and therefore there is little to be gained from speculating as to the decline unless there is an accompanying shift in strategic focus to actually ensure it is a terminal decline
well yeah, from my best reading of what you say, without assuming our concepts are so alike, converged, there’s a lot of BS to help people normalize whatever, large part of what the ideological apparatus does, assists group-level equilibrium
but you never know what you might be normalizing really, recently it could be unlimited covid, deaths and mass maiming, next month it could be war with russia, china and north korea and others, people could be normalizing escalation
Peak Warming Man said:
SCIENCE said:
sorry no you goddamn fools according to pretty much the history of life on earth the natural state is for humans not to exist so
Exactly, if nature was left alone there’d be no humans.
shakes fist at God
^
we mean Last Common Ancestor is still alive right oh wait
but chemo’ does cause a lot of death
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ahahahahahahahaha fucking ahahahahahaha
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(22)00260-7/fulltext
We identified 1 487 712 patients with a recorded diagnosis of COVID-19 during the study period, … most outcomes had HRs significantly greater than 1 after 6 months (with the exception of encephalitis; Guillain-Barré syndrome; nerve, nerve root, and plexus disorder; and parkinsonism), their risk horizons and time to equal incidence varied greatly. Risks of the common psychiatric disorders returned to baseline after 1–2 months (mood disorders at 43 days, anxiety disorders at 58 days) and subsequently reached an equal overall incidence to the matched comparison group (mood disorders at 457 days, anxiety disorders at 417 days). By contrast, risks of cognitive deficit (known as brain fog), dementia, psychotic disorders, and epilepsy or seizures were still increased at the end of the 2-year follow-up period. … children were not at an increased risk of mood (HR 1·02 ) disorders, but did have an increased risk of cognitive deficit, insomnia, intracranial haemorrhage, ischaemic stroke, nerve, nerve root, and plexus disorders, psychotic disorders, and epilepsy or seizures (HRs ranging from 1·20 to 2·16 ). Unlike adults, cognitive deficit in children had a finite risk horizon (75 days) and a finite time to equal incidence (491 days). A sizeable proportion of older adults who received a neurological or psychiatric diagnosis, in either cohort, subsequently died, especially those diagnosed with dementia or epilepsy or seizures. Risk profiles were similar just before versus just after the emergence of the alpha variant (n=47 675 in each cohort). Just after (vs just before) the emergence of the delta variant (n=44 835 in each cohort), increased risks of ischaemic stroke, epilepsy or seizures, cognitive deficit, insomnia, and anxiety disorders were observed, compounded by an increased death rate. With omicron (n=39 845 in each cohort), there was a lower death rate than just before emergence of the variant, but the risks of neurological and psychiatric outcomes remained similar.
Fucking Laugh Out Loud
so
Good News, COVID-19 Helps Employers / Employees Draw Down Accrued Leave Burden ¡
SCIENCE said:
Heh
This Is Good Advice
Don’t worry, it could still be a deadly virus and Kill You Like COVID-19, and if you missed out you can rot your teeth and then catch some more at the dentist¡
SCIENCE said:
This Is Good Advice
Don’t worry, it could still be a deadly virus and Kill You Like COVID-19, and if you missed out you can rot your teeth and then catch some more at the dentist¡
have couple teaspoons of honey with your plague
sweeteners
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
This Is Good Advice
Don’t worry, it could still be a deadly virus and Kill You Like COVID-19, and if you missed out you can rot your teeth and then catch some more at the dentist¡
have couple teaspoons of honey with your plague
sweeteners
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
This Is Good Advice
Don’t worry, it could still be a deadly virus and Kill You Like COVID-19, and if you missed out you can rot your teeth and then catch some more at the dentist¡
have couple teaspoons of honey with your plague
sweeteners
muted chuckle, watching that
The Paediatrician We Should All Trust
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The Paediatrician We Should All Trust
related
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
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SCIENCE said:The Paediatrician We Should All Trust
related
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
from above
“Another kind of survivorship bias would involve thinking that an incident was not all that dangerous because everyone communicated with afterwards survived. Even if one knew that some people are dead, they would not have their voice to add to the conversation, leading to bias in the conversation.”
transition said:
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SCIENCE said:The Paediatrician We Should All Trust
related
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
from above
“Another kind of survivorship bias would involve thinking that an incident was not all that dangerous because everyone communicated with afterwards survived. Even if one knew that some people are dead, they would not have their voice to add to the conversation, leading to bias in the conversation.”
arguably, but we subscribe to the Northern Territorian idea of selection
as in, accordingly, that quoted perspective could be called the opposite of scinegue
Just checking up on the world series.
By variants, Australia is:
81% Omicron BA.5
9% Omicron BA.4
7% Omicron BA.2
2% Omicron BA.2.75
1% Omicron BA.2.12.1
BA.5 is by far the most frequent variant in every country where the variants are recorded.
Alpha, beta, gamma and delta variants are essentially extinct. Only India has any, and it’s only 0.1% in delta.
New deaths per population. Australia is up near the top again.
Of large countries, only Greece, Finland and Croatia have more deaths per unit population than Australia.
Cases per population. South Korea is bad and rising. Japan has been really bad for the last 15 days.
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transition said:related
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
from above
“Another kind of survivorship bias would involve thinking that an incident was not all that dangerous because everyone communicated with afterwards survived. Even if one knew that some people are dead, they would not have their voice to add to the conversation, leading to bias in the conversation.”
arguably, but we subscribe to the Northern Territorian idea of selection
as in, accordingly, that quoted perspective could be called the opposite of scinegue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SWzWgUYENA
Depletion of Susceptibles: What Is It, and Why Does it Matter?
watching that^
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I mean it’s all fly by wire now anyway, surely they just can just get some kid to do it on his xbox.
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daily fail reaching into australia with that special thing it does, constantly testing how ignorable it is, has me conjure hypersocial narcissists, tendencies that way, the appeal
Know Surprises Here
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Know Surprises Here
maybe the left haven’t helped much, persuaded by ideas that might translate into consensus is science, or substitutes for
could be territory they converge anyway, left and right, now that would be a confusing political picture to unravel
transition said:
SCIENCE said:Know Surprises Here
maybe the left haven’t helped much, persuaded by ideas that might translate into consensus is science, or substitutes for
could be territory they converge anyway, left and right, now that would be a confusing political picture to unravel
Surely it’s simpler than that:
.
I’m far from familiar with pretty much every medical term here so I’m not sure how significant this paper is sorry.
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SCIENCE said:Know Surprises Here
maybe the left haven’t helped much, persuaded by ideas that might translate into consensus is science, or substitutes for
could be territory they converge anyway, left and right, now that would be a confusing political picture to unravel
Surely it’s simpler than that:
- all SCIENCE, is wrong
- therefore antiSCIENCE is right
- antiantiSCIENCE is left
.
i’d expect basic physics (the actual physics of the world) is way uninteresting for a lot of people, you can parade the formalism of science all you like, make reference to it, elevate it, but the reality is modern life probably renders it uninteresting, renders basic physics of little interest at all
in fact modern entertainment has little interest in making basic physics interesting, or letting it be interesting
way too mundane
hardly encourages consumption etc
being physics dumb probably accelerates consumption
if you wanted produce a new human environment for humans, detach people from the natural environment, a new science might be really effective to that end
the science of influence, to generate and supply markets
Is it strange to feel nostalgic for 2020?
Yes, there was fear. Fear of the unknown, infection, death. Perhaps worst of all, there was fear of bringing the virus home to our loved ones.
But equally, there was hope. There was unity of purpose. We thought we saw a finish line in sight as case numbers dwindled. We looked forward to vaccines and better times ahead.
Now, two years on, resilience is depleted. As we crest our third Omicron wave this year, we are locked into a seemingly endless cycle. Collective denial takes us to the precipice, before we reach the peak and draw a sigh of relief. But, while many in the community return to “normal”, those working in hospitals are left to deal with the brutal rebound of pent-up demand. Each post-Covid surge feels more chaotic and unmanageable than the last. Meanwhile, the next wave builds. This time it’s BA.2.75. It will break in the spring. (I hope I’m wrong.)
No wonder a recent study found around two-thirds of Victorian healthcare workers were burnt out. Disturbingly, 46% of nurses surveyed had considered leaving the profession. A rubber band can only stretch so far.
People who receive a Covid booster dose in the UK next month will be among the first in the world to receive Moderna’s dual-variant vaccine, which protects against two strains of the virus. But scientists say there is a misconception that this latest vaccine is an upgrade on what has come before.
The evolution of the Covid virus to be more transmissible and better evade immunity is outpacing even innovative mRNA vaccines such as Moderna’s. The current generation of vaccines remain essential to protect us against severe illness and death. But when it comes to controlling infection, we are in a situation equivalent to running at a steady speed on a treadmill that is accelerating.
Now leading scientists are calling for a renewed focus on nasal vaccines, delivered through a spray up the nose rather than an injection. They say nasal vaccines have the best chance of being able to halt Covid transmission and bring infections down to a manageable level.
more..
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/20/covid-nasal-vaccines-scientists-hope-help-halt-transmission
sarahs mum said:
Is it strange to feel nostalgic for 2020?Yes, there was fear. Fear of the unknown, infection, death. Perhaps worst of all, there was fear of bringing the virus home to our loved ones.
But equally, there was hope. There was unity of purpose. We thought we saw a finish line in sight as case numbers dwindled. We looked forward to vaccines and better times ahead.
Now, two years on, resilience is depleted. As we crest our third Omicron wave this year, we are locked into a seemingly endless cycle. Collective denial takes us to the precipice, before we reach the peak and draw a sigh of relief. But, while many in the community return to “normal”, those working in hospitals are left to deal with the brutal rebound of pent-up demand. Each post-Covid surge feels more chaotic and unmanageable than the last. Meanwhile, the next wave builds. This time it’s BA.2.75. It will break in the spring. (I hope I’m wrong.)
No wonder a recent study found around two-thirds of Victorian healthcare workers were burnt out. Disturbingly, 46% of nurses surveyed had considered leaving the profession. A rubber band can only stretch so far.
where’s that from, SM
reads alright just random, but just wondering
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
Is it strange to feel nostalgic for 2020?Yes, there was fear. Fear of the unknown, infection, death. Perhaps worst of all, there was fear of bringing the virus home to our loved ones.
But equally, there was hope. There was unity of purpose. We thought we saw a finish line in sight as case numbers dwindled. We looked forward to vaccines and better times ahead.
Now, two years on, resilience is depleted. As we crest our third Omicron wave this year, we are locked into a seemingly endless cycle. Collective denial takes us to the precipice, before we reach the peak and draw a sigh of relief. But, while many in the community return to “normal”, those working in hospitals are left to deal with the brutal rebound of pent-up demand. Each post-Covid surge feels more chaotic and unmanageable than the last. Meanwhile, the next wave builds. This time it’s BA.2.75. It will break in the spring. (I hope I’m wrong.)
No wonder a recent study found around two-thirds of Victorian healthcare workers were burnt out. Disturbingly, 46% of nurses surveyed had considered leaving the profession. A rubber band can only stretch so far.
where’s that from, SM
reads alright just random, but just wondering
guardian- https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2022/aug/20/scott-morrison-anthony-albanese-covid-omicron-cost-of-living-john-barilaro-fannie-bay-byelection-gunner
> People who receive a Covid booster dose in the UK next month will be among the first in the world to receive Moderna’s dual-variant vaccine, which protects against two strains of the virus.
Does it say which two? Alpha, beta, gamma and delta no longer exist.
Checks web. Ah, great, omicron is the second one.
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
Is it strange to feel nostalgic for 2020?Yes, there was fear. Fear of the unknown, infection, death. Perhaps worst of all, there was fear of bringing the virus home to our loved ones.
But equally, there was hope. There was unity of purpose. We thought we saw a finish line in sight as case numbers dwindled. We looked forward to vaccines and better times ahead.
Now, two years on, resilience is depleted. As we crest our third Omicron wave this year, we are locked into a seemingly endless cycle. Collective denial takes us to the precipice, before we reach the peak and draw a sigh of relief. But, while many in the community return to “normal”, those working in hospitals are left to deal with the brutal rebound of pent-up demand. Each post-Covid surge feels more chaotic and unmanageable than the last. Meanwhile, the next wave builds. This time it’s BA.2.75. It will break in the spring. (I hope I’m wrong.)
No wonder a recent study found around two-thirds of Victorian healthcare workers were burnt out. Disturbingly, 46% of nurses surveyed had considered leaving the profession. A rubber band can only stretch so far.
where’s that from, SM
reads alright just random, but just wondering
guardian- https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2022/aug/20/scott-morrison-anthony-albanese-covid-omicron-cost-of-living-john-barilaro-fannie-bay-byelection-gunner
thankyou
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
transition said:where’s that from, SM
reads alright just random, but just wondering
guardian- https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2022/aug/20/scott-morrison-anthony-albanese-covid-omicron-cost-of-living-john-barilaro-fannie-bay-byelection-gunner
thankyou
found that
Hospitals are full to bursting and emotional reserves have run dry, doctor writes
I sees the language re monkeypox accommodates inevitable expanding numbers, primes the reader for acceptance of that trajectory, probably unlimited monkeypox, a country wouldn’t want have too little of it, or none
more wrongness, the worldists be happy anyway
SCIENCE said:
So Alaska has more unvaccinated people than the rest of the USA put together? Colour me doubtful.
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
So Alaska has more unvaccinated people than the rest of the USA put together? Colour me doubtful.
fkn Gerardus nothing good ever came from his distortions
but seriously we haven’t checked the data, merely pasted it here as an interesting visualisation
however being SCIENCE we are chastened and acknowledge that more care could be taken when contributing questionable findings
probably got lazy after lockdowns
these Germans claim that a British vaccine is contaminated by proteins from the human cell line in which it is produced
https://elifesciences.org/articles/78513
disclaimer: we have not checked whether they represent a bunch of fkn antivaxxers or if it’s much more legit’ but it was just interesting
pick your ending
SCIENCE said:
…/….cut by me master transition…./…
clearly group equilibrium utilizes a dynamic indifference as permitted
China has dynamic zero
Australia has dynamic indifference
SCIENCE said:
probably got lazy after lockdowns
probably because the wheels are falling off the bullshit
maxed out the debt, then added a heap more, a stressed population at the limits, then a virus is let loose that loves stress, a virus that a lot of people will not establish good lasting immunity to, likely get recurrent exposures and infections that add to the stress
I doubt the species is anywhere near coming out the otherside the troubles, the appealing notion of letting something go because it’s too contagious to contain is flawed, horrendously flawed, horrendously stupid
incorporating covid as a device of ideology, part of ideological normal, it’s fucked really
transition said:
transition said:
sarahs mum said:guardian- https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2022/aug/20/scott-morrison-anthony-albanese-covid-omicron-cost-of-living-john-barilaro-fannie-bay-byelection-gunner
thankyou
found that
Hospitals are full to bursting and emotional reserves have run dry, doctor writes
I sees the language re monkeypox accommodates inevitable expanding numbers, primes the reader for acceptance of that trajectory, probably unlimited monkeypox, a country wouldn’t want have too little of it, or none
more wrongness, the worldists be happy anyway
and I’s just reads the article proper
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/20/australias-latest-covid-wave-may-be-passing-but-the-crisis-in-hospitals-has-only-just-begun
and by memory, here’s this statement, perhaps no verbatim..
‘……..but still it’s amazing what humans can become used to……’
i’d caution that very attribute has an extraordinary unpleasant history, of the species
possibly one of the worst attributes of the species
transition said:
transition said:
transition said:thankyou
found that
Hospitals are full to bursting and emotional reserves have run dry, doctor writes
I sees the language re monkeypox accommodates inevitable expanding numbers, primes the reader for acceptance of that trajectory, probably unlimited monkeypox, a country wouldn’t want have too little of it, or none
more wrongness, the worldists be happy anyway
and I’s just reads the article proper
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/20/australias-latest-covid-wave-may-be-passing-but-the-crisis-in-hospitals-has-only-just-begun
and by memory, here’s this statement, perhaps no verbatim..
‘……..but still it’s amazing what humans can become used to……’
i’d caution that very attribute has an extraordinary unpleasant history, of the species
possibly one of the worst attributes of the species
hear hear
don’t worry
A passenger bus collided with emergency teams handling an earlier road accident in southern Turkey, leaving at least 16 people dead and nearly two dozen injured, officials say.
they had 0 deaths even with COVID-19 yesterday so it’s all good
probably all
It may not come as a shock that the number of Australians filing for divorce has spiked since the start of the pandemic, with relationships crumbling under COVID-related stresses.
because of fkn lockdowns, masks, CHINA, vaccinations, and school closures slash teacher shortages
SCIENCE said:
probably all
It may not come as a shock that the number of Australians filing for divorce has spiked since the start of the pandemic, with relationships crumbling under COVID-related stresses.
because of fkn lockdowns, masks, CHINA, vaccinations, and school closures slash teacher shortages
don’t let a good crisis go to waste, apologies to Winston or whoever for the contemporary torture of that idea, not my doing the world was hijacked by Darwinists, and apologies to Charles, probably turning in his grave also
North Korea imported more than 1 million facial masks and 15,000 pairs of rubber gloves from China in July, shortly before declaring victory over Covid-19, Chinese trade figures show.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/20/asia/north-korea-covid-china-masks-intl-hnk/index.html
—-
Admirable caution
dv said:
North Korea imported more than 1 million facial masks and 15,000 pairs of rubber gloves from China in July, shortly before declaring victory over Covid-19, Chinese trade figures show.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/20/asia/north-korea-covid-china-masks-intl-hnk/index.html
—-
Admirable caution
so masks work
New study suggests covid increases risks of brain disorders
By Frances Stead Sellers
August 19, 2022 at 4:36 p.m. EDT
A study published this week in the journal Lancet Psychiatry showed increased risks of some brain disorders two years after infection with the coronavirus, shedding new light on the long-term neurological and psychiatric aspects of the virus.
The analysis, conducted by researchers at the University of Oxford and drawing on health records data from more than 1 million people around the world, found that while the risks of many common psychiatric disorders returned to normal within a couple of months, people remained at increased risk for dementia, epilepsy, psychosis and cognitive deficit (or brain fog) two years after contracting covid. Adults appeared to be at particular risk of lasting brain fog, a common complaint among coronavirus survivors.
The study’s findings were a mix of good and bad news, said Paul Harrison, a professor of psychiatry at the University of Oxford and the senior author of the study. Among the reassuring aspects was the quick resolution of symptoms such as depression and anxiety.
“I was surprised and relieved by how quickly the psychiatric sequelae subsided,” Harrison said.
David Putrino, director of rehabilitation innovation at Mount Sinai Health System in New York, who has been studying the lasting impacts of the coronavirus since early in the pandemic, said the study revealed some very troubling outcomes.
“It allows us to see without a doubt the emergence of significant neuropsychiatric sequelae in individuals that had covid and far more frequently than those who did not,” he said.
Because it focused only on the neurological and psychiatric effects of the coronavirus, the study authors and others emphasized that it is not strictly long-covid research.
How long covid could change the way we think about disability
“It would be overstepping and unscientific to make the immediate assumption that everybody in the cohort had long covid,” Putrino said. But the study, he said, “does inform long-covid research.”
Between 7 million and 23 million people in the United States, according to recent government estimates, have long covid — a catchall term for a wide range of symptoms including fatigue, breathlessness and anxiety that persist weeks and months after the acute infection has subsided. Those numbers are expected to rise as the coronavirus settles in as an endemic disease.
What is long covid?
The study was led by Maxime Taquet, a senior research fellow at the University of Oxford who specializes in using big data to shed light on psychiatric disorders.
The researchers matched almost 1.3 million patients with a diagnosis of covid-19 between Jan. 20, 2020, and April 13, 2022, with an equal number of patients who had other respiratory diseases during the pandemic. The data, provided by electronic health records network TriNetX, came largely from the United States but also included data from Australia, Britain, Spain, Bulgaria, India, Malaysia and Taiwan.
The study group, which included 185,000 children and 242,000 older adults, revealed that risks differed according to age, with people 65 and older at greatest risk of lasting neuropsychiatric effects.
For people between the ages of 18 and 64, a particularly significant increased risk was of persistent brain fog, affecting 6.4 percent of people who had had covid compared with 5.5 percent in the control group.
Six months after infection, children were not found to be at increased risk of mood disorders, although they remained at greater risk of brain fog, insomnia, stroke and epilepsy. None of those effects were permanent for children. With epilepsy, which is extremely rare, the increased risk was larger.
The study found that 4.5 percent of older people developed dementia in the two years after infection, compared with 3.3 percent of the control group. That 1.2-point increase in a diagnosis as damaging as dementia is particularly worrisome, the researchers said.
The study’s reliance on a trove of de-identified electronic health data raised some cautions, particularly considering the tumultuous time of the pandemic. Tracking long-term outcomes may be hard when patients may have sought care through many different health systems, including some outside the TriNetX network.
“I personally find it impossible to judge the validity of the data or the conclusions when the data source is shrouded in mystery and the sources of the data are kept secret by legal agreement,” said Harlan Krumholz, a Yale scientist who has developed an online platform where patients can enter their own health data.
Taquet said the researchers used several means of assessing the data, including making sure it reflected what was already known about the pandemic, such as the drop in death rates during the omicron wave.
Also, Taquet said, “the validity of data is not going to be better than validity of diagnosis. If clinicians make mistakes, we will make the same mistakes.”
The study follows earlier research from the same group, which reported last year that a third of covid patients experienced mood disorders, strokes or dementia six months after infection.
While cautioning that it is impossible to make full comparisons among the effects of recent variants, including omicron and its subvariants, which are currently driving infections, and those that were prevalent a year or more ago, the researchers outlined some initial findings: Even though omicron caused less severe immediate symptoms, the longer-term neurological and psychiatric outcomes appeared similar to the delta waves, indicating that the burden on the world’s health-care systems might continue even with less-severe variants.
Hannah Davis, a co-founder of the Patient-Led Research Collaborative, which studies long covid, said that finding was meaningful. “It goes against the narrative that omicron is more mild for long covid, which is not based on science,” Davis said.
“We see this all the time,” Putrino said. “The general conversation keeps leaving out long covid. The severity of initial infection doesn’t matter when we talk about long-term sequelae that ruin people’s lives.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/08/19/long-covid-brain-effects/?
Witty Rejoinder said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/08/19/long-covid-brain-effects/ ?
Fuck CHINA for trying to keep ASIAN geniuses smarter than everyone else the elitist bastards¡
Witty Rejoinder said:
…/….cut by me master transition…./….https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/08/19/long-covid-brain-effects/?
read that page, didn’t impress me much, it hardly points to the potentially more interesting proposition of what generates the experience of mental states of equilibrium normal of which an example wouldn’t report anything to be wrong, barely hints at the home in the head
which might be an interesting thing, could be
in a way, minds considered as part of broader homeostasis, mechanisms for, it may think the thought of arrive at idea it is to avoid disease – does – not just a proximate mechanism for survival, but substantially enjoyable survival
the bulb on the shoulders might arrive at the view covid is not a good virus to be let loose
so there must be an overwhelming force of some sort encouraging it to wild status, which is probably worth a thought, how that is done
transition said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
…/….cut by me master transition…./….
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/08/19/long-covid-brain-effects/?
read that page, didn’t impress me much, it hardly points to the potentially more interesting proposition of what generates the experience of mental states of equilibrium normal of which an example wouldn’t report anything to be wrong, barely hints at the home in the head
which might be an interesting thing, could be
in a way, minds considered as part of broader homeostasis, mechanisms for, it may think the thought of arrive at idea it is to avoid disease – does – not just a proximate mechanism for survival, but substantially enjoyable survival
the bulb on the shoulders might arrive at the view covid is not a good virus to be let loose
so there must be an overwhelming force of some sort encouraging it to wild status, which is probably worth a thought, how that is done
Speaking Of Neurons
oh this is pretty nice
(note it says “new” but you’ve seen it in local news for ages)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/health/new-covid-variant-can-reinfect-27792046
Oh¡ FLOCK¡ IMMUNITY¡ Yeah¡
SCIENCE said:
oh this is pretty nice
(note it says “new” but you’ve seen it in local news for ages)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/health/new-covid-variant-can-reinfect-27792046
New Covid variant can reinfect you every MONTH
Oh¡ FLOCK¡ IMMUNITY¡ Yeah¡
covid, the model internationalist border smasher, and biological invader
there are some sick fucks in the world I tells ya, happy to internationalize disease
a love of contagion
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
oh this is pretty nice
(note it says “new” but you’ve seen it in local news for ages)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/health/new-covid-variant-can-reinfect-27792046
New Covid variant can reinfect you every MONTH
Oh¡ FLOCK¡ IMMUNITY¡ Yeah¡
covid, the model internationalist border smasher, and biological invader
there are some sick fucks in the world I tells ya, happy to internationalize disease
a love of contagion
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
oh this is pretty nice
(note it says “new” but you’ve seen it in local news for ages)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/health/new-covid-variant-can-reinfect-27792046
New Covid variant can reinfect you every MONTH
Oh¡ FLOCK¡ IMMUNITY¡ Yeah¡
covid, the model internationalist border smasher, and biological invader
there are some sick fucks in the world I tells ya, happy to internationalize disease
a love of contagion
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
covid, the model internationalist border smasher, and biological invader
there are some sick fucks in the world I tells ya, happy to internationalize disease
a love of contagion
Ramping?
somewhere in Canada is what we read
oh
oops
speaking of Canada there
SCIENCE said:
oh
oops
speaking of Canada there
the troubles of commitment to unlimited covid, commitment to letting it go because it’s too contagious contain, once that insanity is internalized as normal you have a psychological corruption which is not limited to easy covid, or covid easy
the stupid potentially migrates to many things
canada they be keen on the great reset I expect, don’t mind crashing a burning everything for the worldist transformation agenda
SCIENCE said:
fucking laugh out loud
Winter Crisis Bites Early
19 August 2022
sorry, it’s far more amusing in this thread
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
fucking laugh out loud
Winter Crisis Bites Early
19 August 2022
sorry, it’s far more amusing in this thread
“If you’re dying, you won’t benefit from an ambulance anyway”.
SCIENCE said:
oh
oops
speaking of Canada there
Nice memeskills by the AMA
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
fucking laugh out loud
Winter Crisis Bites Early
19 August 2022
sorry, it’s far more amusing in this thread
“If you’re dying, you won’t benefit from an ambulance anyway”.
maybe they mean the patients in those particular ambulances will be ramped until winter, we should be thankful it’s only 23 hours here in Australia, not 23 weeks
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
Matchbox making, the lowest paid work.
Rich aristocrat “Better than working down the coal mines or going to bedlam ungrateful wretches”
ramped until winter, we should be thankful it’s only 23 hours here in Australia, not 23 weeks
not mentioned in story is the reason for category 1 needing 20 minutes wait for ambulance
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-19/nine-year-old-girl-saves-mums-life-on-triple-0-call/101350536
but don’t worry we have 9 year olds to do CPR now
next, back to the coal mines
SCIENCE said:
we suppose life expectancy is an acceptable surrogate measure and having been increasing over the same period of time as microplastics have been increasing perhaps the effects are
- beneficial, or
- if negative, second-order, at most
but then again that global 2-year decline in life expectancy over the past ah 2 years might or might not be related
actually that raises for us an interesting point, how dickheads for 2 years have claimed that getting back to old normal behaviours would allow everyone to live their lives instead of living in fear and under gross infringement of human rights
notwithstanding the facts that
given that there’s pretty firm evidence now that
the result of the “getting back to old normal behaviours” bullshit was literally to have wasted those 2 best years of everyone’s lives since it’s all downhill as time goes on
now obviously this correlation isn’t going on forever, humans evolve too so it seems unlikely to us that after 51 more years of this pandemic, the life expectancy in Central African Republic will literally be 0, but correspondingly it’s not like lockdowns have been imposed for the full 2 years or even anywhere near that so
guess it turned out that strategies to prevent infection actually let people live better lives for longer after all
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahahaha fucking ahahahahahaha
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(22)00260-7/fulltext
We identified 1 487 712 patients with a recorded diagnosis of COVID-19 during the study period, … most outcomes had HRs significantly greater than 1 after 6 months (with the exception of encephalitis; Guillain-Barré syndrome; nerve, nerve root, and plexus disorder; and parkinsonism), their risk horizons and time to equal incidence varied greatly. Risks of the common psychiatric disorders returned to baseline after 1–2 months (mood disorders at 43 days, anxiety disorders at 58 days) and subsequently reached an equal overall incidence to the matched comparison group (mood disorders at 457 days, anxiety disorders at 417 days). By contrast, risks of cognitive deficit (known as brain fog), dementia, psychotic disorders, and epilepsy or seizures were still increased at the end of the 2-year follow-up period. … children were not at an increased risk of mood (HR 1·02 ) disorders, but did have an increased risk of cognitive deficit, insomnia, intracranial haemorrhage, ischaemic stroke, nerve, nerve root, and plexus disorders, psychotic disorders, and epilepsy or seizures (HRs ranging from 1·20 to 2·16 ). Unlike adults, cognitive deficit in children had a finite risk horizon (75 days) and a finite time to equal incidence (491 days). A sizeable proportion of older adults who received a neurological or psychiatric diagnosis, in either cohort, subsequently died, especially those diagnosed with dementia or epilepsy or seizures. Risk profiles were similar just before versus just after the emergence of the alpha variant (n=47 675 in each cohort). Just after (vs just before) the emergence of the delta variant (n=44 835 in each cohort), increased risks of ischaemic stroke, epilepsy or seizures, cognitive deficit, insomnia, and anxiety disorders were observed, compounded by an increased death rate. With omicron (n=39 845 in each cohort), there was a lower death rate than just before emergence of the variant, but the risks of neurological and psychiatric outcomes remained similar.
Fucking Laugh Out Loud
so
a…a…a…and one week later they bring you
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-23/brain-fog-a-symptom-of-long-covid-19/101355350
up to date
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahahaha fucking ahahahahahaha
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(22)00260-7/fulltext
We identified 1 487 712 patients with a recorded diagnosis of COVID-19 during the study period, … most outcomes had HRs significantly greater than 1 after 6 months (with the exception of encephalitis; Guillain-Barré syndrome; nerve, nerve root, and plexus disorder; and parkinsonism), their risk horizons and time to equal incidence varied greatly. Risks of the common psychiatric disorders returned to baseline after 1–2 months (mood disorders at 43 days, anxiety disorders at 58 days) and subsequently reached an equal overall incidence to the matched comparison group (mood disorders at 457 days, anxiety disorders at 417 days). By contrast, risks of cognitive deficit (known as brain fog), dementia, psychotic disorders, and epilepsy or seizures were still increased at the end of the 2-year follow-up period. … children were not at an increased risk of mood (HR 1·02 ) disorders, but did have an increased risk of cognitive deficit, insomnia, intracranial haemorrhage, ischaemic stroke, nerve, nerve root, and plexus disorders, psychotic disorders, and epilepsy or seizures (HRs ranging from 1·20 to 2·16 ). Unlike adults, cognitive deficit in children had a finite risk horizon (75 days) and a finite time to equal incidence (491 days). A sizeable proportion of older adults who received a neurological or psychiatric diagnosis, in either cohort, subsequently died, especially those diagnosed with dementia or epilepsy or seizures. Risk profiles were similar just before versus just after the emergence of the alpha variant (n=47 675 in each cohort). Just after (vs just before) the emergence of the delta variant (n=44 835 in each cohort), increased risks of ischaemic stroke, epilepsy or seizures, cognitive deficit, insomnia, and anxiety disorders were observed, compounded by an increased death rate. With omicron (n=39 845 in each cohort), there was a lower death rate than just before emergence of the variant, but the risks of neurological and psychiatric outcomes remained similar.
Fucking Laugh Out Loud
so
a…a…a…and one week later they bring you
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-23/brain-fog-a-symptom-of-long-covid-19/101355350
up to date
our friend the ABC, clearing the fog with more of the same, inevitable covid
transition said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
so
a…a…a…and one week later they bring you
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-23/brain-fog-a-symptom-of-long-covid-19/101355350
up to date
our friend the ABC, clearing the fog with more of the same, inevitable covid
viral insult resulting in biological injury, the virus we had to have because it was too contagious contain
can’t wait for the modeling re that, how much believing that made it so, made it too contagious to contain
perhaps the ABC could do the modeling
transition said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:a…a…a…and one week later they bring you
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-23/brain-fog-a-symptom-of-long-covid-19/101355350
up to date
our friend the ABC, clearing the fog with more of the same, inevitable covid
viral insult resulting in biological injury, the virus we had to have because it was too contagious contain
can’t wait for the modeling re that, how much believing that made it so, made it too contagious to contain
perhaps the ABC could do the modeling
I’ll be happy if they stick to fact checking.
roughbarked said:
transition said:
transition said:our friend the ABC, clearing the fog with more of the same, inevitable covid
viral insult resulting in biological injury, the virus we had to have because it was too contagious contain
can’t wait for the modeling re that, how much believing that made it so, made it too contagious to contain
perhaps the ABC could do the modeling
I’ll be happy if they stick to fact checking.
maybe they could fact check if they promoted endemic covid, and reconcile for me the question of whether it’s reached or looking like it will reach endemic equilibrium anytime soon, or perhaps it is a superpandemic, they’ve got the resources to find out, or work it out
what would a superpandemic look like
transition said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:viral insult resulting in biological injury, the virus we had to have because it was too contagious contain
can’t wait for the modeling re that, how much believing that made it so, made it too contagious to contain
perhaps the ABC could do the modeling
I’ll be happy if they stick to fact checking.
maybe they could fact check if they promoted endemic covid, and reconcile for me the question of whether it’s reached or looking like it will reach endemic equilibrium anytime soon, or perhaps it is a superpandemic, they’ve got the resources to find out, or work it out
what would a superpandemic look like
Faster than a speeding bullet?
Dr Fauci is retiring in December.
quitters
SCIENCE said:
quitters
the ripostes are far entertaininger
https://twitter.com/Anton_Vikstrom/status/1561330468322172930
SCIENCE said:
quitters
Why not die?
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
quitters
Why not die?
we think that’s what they mean by “being done with it”
meanwhile here’s a former politician trying to be deep and meaningful
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
quitters
Why not die?
we think that’s what they mean by “being done with it”
meanwhile here’s a former politician trying to be deep and meaningful
Uh
dv said:
SCIENCE said:dv said:
Why not die?
we think that’s what they mean by “being done with it”
meanwhile here’s a former politician trying to be deep and meaningful
Uh
Let’s face it, she’s a bit of a nutter.
sibeen said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:we think that’s what they mean by “being done with it”
meanwhile here’s a former politician trying to be deep and meaningful
Uh
Let’s face it, she’s a bit of a nutter.
In fairness she just copied it from a great philospher.
dv said:
sibeen said:
dv said:Uh
Let’s face it, she’s a bit of a nutter.
In fairness she just copied it from a great philospher.
at least ricky’s doesn’t have the rampant inclusive we, but the projection in you is probably just as whatever
anyway i’m struggling to have my own thoughts today, and assemble new word formulations to express them, maybe i’ll go read some confucius, find something pithy to quote, perhaps even manage to quote it verbatim
transition said:
dv said:
sibeen said:Let’s face it, she’s a bit of a nutter.
In fairness she just copied it from a great philospher.
at least ricky’s doesn’t have the rampant inclusive we, but the projection in you is probably just as whatever
anyway i’m struggling to have my own thoughts today, and assemble new word formulations to express them, maybe i’ll go read some confucius, find something pithy to quote, perhaps even manage to quote it verbatim
remember, you could be suffering brain fog.
roughbarked said:
transition said:
dv said:In fairness she just copied it from a great philospher.
at least ricky’s doesn’t have the rampant inclusive we, but the projection in you is probably just as whatever
anyway i’m struggling to have my own thoughts today, and assemble new word formulations to express them, maybe i’ll go read some confucius, find something pithy to quote, perhaps even manage to quote it verbatim
remember, you could be suffering brain fog.
yeah nah, i’ve not succumbed to the frain bog
transition said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:at least ricky’s doesn’t have the rampant inclusive we, but the projection in you is probably just as whatever
anyway i’m struggling to have my own thoughts today, and assemble new word formulations to express them, maybe i’ll go read some confucius, find something pithy to quote, perhaps even manage to quote it verbatim
remember, you could be suffering brain fog.
yeah nah, i’ve not succumbed to the frain bog
That’s good news.
roughbarked said:
transition said:
roughbarked said:remember, you could be suffering brain fog.
yeah nah, i’ve not succumbed to the frain bog
That’s good news.
and if someone could find something nearest the original text that would be good, in case it’s been tortured by modern creative ‘translations’, evolved you know, modern people like evolving things, the contemporary spin artists
transition said:
something nearest the original text that would be good
transition said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:yeah nah, i’ve not succumbed to the frain bog
That’s good news.
and if someone could find something nearest the original text that would be good, in case it’s been tortured by modern creative ‘translations’, evolved you know, modern people like evolving things, the contemporary spin artists
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/950577-we-have-two-lives-and-the-second-begins-when-we
Michael V said:
transition said:
roughbarked said:
That’s good news.
and if someone could find something nearest the original text that would be good, in case it’s been tortured by modern creative ‘translations’, evolved you know, modern people like evolving things, the contemporary spin artists
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/950577-we-have-two-lives-and-the-second-begins-when-we
chains of claims
https://www.zhihu.com/question/22026144
抖森说的“人有两条生命，第二条开始于你发现你只有一条的时候”(原文法文)这句话来自哪里？
妈蛋，搜了下，法国佬居然说是孔子说的……
每个人都有两次生命,当我们意识到生命只有一次的时 候, 第二次 生 命就 开 始了。
Michael V said:
transition said:
roughbarked said:That’s good news.
and if someone could find something nearest the original text that would be good, in case it’s been tortured by modern creative ‘translations’, evolved you know, modern people like evolving things, the contemporary spin artists
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/950577-we-have-two-lives-and-the-second-begins-when-we
no sure that confirms what I see to be near the original text
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
transition said:
and if someone could find something nearest the original text that would be good, in case it’s been tortured by modern creative ‘translations’, evolved you know, modern people like evolving things, the contemporary spin artists
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/950577-we-have-two-lives-and-the-second-begins-when-we
chains of claims
https://www.zhihu.com/question/22026144
抖森说的“人有两条生命，第二条开始于你发现你只有一条的时候”(原文法文)这句话来自哪里？
妈蛋，搜了下，法国佬居然说是孔子说的……
每个人都有两次生命,当我们意识到生命只有一次的时 候, 第二次 生 命就 开 始了。
“..Jensen said “There are two lives, the second begins when you find out you only have one” (original French)..”
so no confirmation Confucius said it or wrote it, and that way, if at all
and I wonder, even if I took Ricky’s version, use of you, is the “you” being used the same way as above
whatever, a momentary intrigue
transition said:
whatever, a momentary intrigue
maybe this too will pass
An outbreak of a new viral infection referred to as tomato flu that was first detected in children in the southern Indian state of Kerala in May has spread to two other states. According to an article in the Lancet Respiratory Medicine, 82 children aged under five had been diagnosed with the virus in Kerala as of 26 July. Scientists are still trying to identify exactly what this virus is. It has been referred to as tomato flu because of the painful red blisters it produces on the body, and it is very contagious. Children are particularly vulnerable because it spreads easily through close contact, such as via nappies, touching unclean surfaces or putting things in mouths.
WTF
more negative pandemic messaging like ours hell yeah
seriously why not just pay everyone who has been shot, a vaccination bonus
are these things designed to be run by people deliberately putting out the worst and least effective messaging they can
SCIENCE said:
more negative pandemic messaging like ours hell yeah
- A direction was issued in November for staff to be vaccinated against COVID
- Those who did not comply were stood down without pay but have since returned to work
- They received a letter this week informing them they will now have their pay temporarily reduced
seriously why not just pay everyone who has been shot, a vaccination bonus
are these things designed to be run by people deliberately putting out the worst and least effective messaging they can
basically vaccine has been used as insurance, affords some impunity, limits liability, this all requires variously constructions, with a legal background, which has a formalized dimension, and an informal dimension
re the informal background, it is to make it not matter that the vaccine is not-greatly-effective (certainly not against transmission, or long covid/sequelae), and that the community and government are now in an agreement about rendering covid endemic, even if it doesn’t qualify as endemic technically
the subjects of the policy, the strategy, are given ‘encouragements’ to comply with the ‘insurance’
to steer general acceptance of wild covid, regardless of whether it’s sane or not
basically vaccine was used as a vote for unlimited wild covid, which had the effect of largely crushing any objections
just an opinion above^ is all, my view
One day people will wake up and start wearing masks to stop the spread.
Its just that most people have not woken up to wearing masks, thinking that maybe they are asymptomatic and therefore don’t need to wear the masks.
Something like that.
Tau.Neutrino said:
One day people will wake up and start wearing masks to stop the spread.Its just that most people have not woken up to wearing masks, thinking that maybe they are asymptomatic and therefore don’t need to wear the masks.
Something like that.
I’ll be over there, points, with my head stuck in the sand if anyone wants me.
Tau.Neutrino said:
One day people will wake up and start wearing masks to stop the spread.Its just that most people have not woken up to wearing masks, thinking that maybe they are asymptomatic and therefore don’t need to wear the masks.
Something like that.
>Its just that most people have not woken up to wearing masks, thinking that maybe they are asymptomatic and therefore don’t need to wear the masks
it’s worse than that
there are people that know or think they likely have it, or could have it, that are fully licensed to masklessly swap air
the secret work of invisible air, it’s transparent you know, people love transparency
transition said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
One day people will wake up and start wearing masks to stop the spread.Its just that most people have not woken up to wearing masks, thinking that maybe they are asymptomatic and therefore don’t need to wear the masks.
Something like that.
>Its just that most people have not woken up to wearing masks, thinking that maybe they are asymptomatic and therefore don’t need to wear the masks
it’s worse than that
there are people that know or think they likely have it, or could have it, that are fully licensed to masklessly swap air
the secret work of invisible air, it’s transparent you know, people love transparency
Much worse than I thought.
Tau.Neutrino said:
transition said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
One day people will wake up and start wearing masks to stop the spread.
Its just that most people have not woken up to wearing masks, thinking that maybe they are asymptomatic and therefore don’t need to wear the masks.
Something like that.
>Its just that most people have not woken up to wearing masks, thinking that maybe they are asymptomatic and therefore don’t need to wear the masks
it’s worse than that
there are people that know or think they likely have it, or could have it, that are fully licensed to masklessly swap air
the secret work of invisible air, it’s transparent you know, people love transparency
Much worse than I thought.
here
SCIENCE said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
transition said:
>Its just that most people have not woken up to wearing masks, thinking that maybe they are asymptomatic and therefore don’t need to wear the masks
it’s worse than that
there are people that know or think they likely have it, or could have it, that are fully licensed to masklessly swap air
the secret work of invisible air, it’s transparent you know, people love transparency
Much worse than I thought.
here
I watches that, I did
my reading..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysautonomia
“Dysautonomia or autonomic dysfunction is a condition in which the autonomic nervous system (ANS) does not work properly. This may affect the functioning of the heart, bladder, intestines, sweat glands, pupils, and blood vessels. Dysautonomia has many causes, not all of which may be classified as neuropathic. A number of conditions can feature dysautonomia, such as Parkinson’s disease, multiple system atrophy, dementia with Lewy bodies, Ehlers-Danlos syndromes, autoimmune autonomic ganglionopathy and autonomic neuropathy, HIV/AIDS, autonomic failure, and postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome….”
remember when Dirty CHINA sorry we mean Hong Kong UK Colony banned masks used when committing crime
ah well we suppose it’s acceptable and even preferable when private business does it
SCIENCE said:
remember when Dirty CHINA sorry we mean Hong Kong UK Colony banned masks used when committing crime
I don’t
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
remember when Dirty CHINA sorry we mean Hong Kong UK Colony banned masks used when committing crime
I don’t
The judgment, delivered on Thursday afternoon, said Hong Kong’s chief executive could use colonial-era laws to make emergency decrees for public safety and that banning masks was constitutional at unlawful gatherings.
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
that banning masks was constitutional at unlawful gatherings.SCIENCE said:
remember when Dirty CHINA sorry we mean Hong Kong UK Colony banned masks used when committing crime
I don’t
(scratches head)
SCIENCE said:
Okay, now what?
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
Okay, now what?
SCIENCE said:
remember when Dirty CHINA sorry we mean Hong Kong UK Colony banned masks used when committing crime
ah well we suppose it’s acceptable and even preferable when private business does it
goodoh, some advocacy for masklessness, well doesn’t look like that is for a private shop, but once in the news is for larger audience
carrying cash money contributes to crime too, wobberwies, get rid of that too
another disproportionation
Lies, That’s How Much Lockdown Support Costs Wait, Wait Up
got surprised again
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2022/08/25/tomato-flu-india/
oops
guess “Public Health” really is a woke field these days, has been since 1998
no worries
SCIENCE said:
no worries
there’s no disaster the new breed wouldn’t look to benefit from, so keen they edge on creating disasters to feed the monster, the entire species is to be seduced into the way
Early in the pandemic, Moderna said it would not enforce its COVID-19 patents to help others develop their own vaccines, particularly for low- and middle-income countries.
But in March 2022 Moderna said it expected companies such as Pfizer and BioNTech to respect its intellectual property rights. It said it would not seek damages for any activity before March 8 2022.
double
take
SCIENCE said:
double
take
got that hoodoo we happening there
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-27/tasmania-sandford-triple-fatal-car-crash/101379888
SCIENCE said:
as someone once said, the more common an error, the less effort required to sustain it, something like that
and on goes the killing and maiming, the good work of indifference
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
as someone once said, the more common an error, the less effort required to sustain it, something like that
and on goes the killing and maiming, the good work of indifference
imagine the situation when the hosts that transport covid become as indifferent as the virus, they converge that way
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-28/three-people-dead-in-separate-crashes-in-victoria/101380180
“Police said the cause of the crash was not yet known”
fairly sure .5M(V^2) had something to do with it
SCIENCE said:
fun
https://coronavirus.house.gov/news/press-releases/clyburn-fda-trump-navarro-hatfill-report
probably worth revisiting and consider this interpretation
SCIENCE said:
once you let something like covid go because it’s too contagious to contain, things are fucked essentially
considerable part of the accelerated global economic dive, and inflation presently, can be attributed to that above
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
no worries
there’s no disaster the new breed wouldn’t look to benefit from, so keen they edge on creating disasters to feed the monster, the entire species is to be seduced into the way
Lies, That’s How Much Lockdown Support Costs Wait, Wait Up
here’s the article anyway
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/25/long-covid-americans-workforce-brookings-report
SCIENCE said:
nothing to do with Dr Karl, but it did cross my mind that more frequently could mean more inconsistently, that you can increase frequency and reduce consistency, like removing a prophylactic of another kind numerous times during some activity that I won’t mention explicitly, and be self-assured you do the right thing frequently
you can have a higher frequency along with a declining barrier consistency
anyway, while i’m being silly, I might point out that wearing a mask is a very good way of advertising you may have a contagion, and cause suspicion, even if you don’t have the contagion
you could be in a room of twenty other people, half of which unknowingly have covid, an innocent plague swap party, oblivious sharing, and you’re the dodgy one
and if someone gets seriously ill they’ll probably remember you with your mask on, point on your direction secretly
yeah, and related most plague has been spread by vaccinated people for a long time now, overwhelmingly spread by vaccinated people, fully licensed, and did the death and injury stop, did it turn out to be less after vaccination
hmmm, what sort of license was vaccination
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
nothing to do with Dr Karl, but it did cross my mind that more frequently could mean more inconsistently, that you can increase frequency and reduce consistency, like removing a prophylactic of another kind numerous times during some activity that I won’t mention explicitly, and be self-assured you do the right thing frequently
you can have a higher frequency along with a declining barrier consistency
anyway, while i’m being silly, I might point out that wearing a mask is a very good way of advertising you may have a contagion, and cause suspicion, even if you don’t have the contagion
you could be in a room of twenty other people, half of which unknowingly have covid, an innocent plague swap party, oblivious sharing, and you’re the dodgy one
and if someone gets seriously ill they’ll probably remember you with your mask on, point on your direction secretly
yeah, and related most plague has been spread by vaccinated people for a long time now, overwhelmingly spread by vaccinated people, fully licensed, and did the death and injury stop, did it turn out to be less after vaccination
hmmm, what sort of license was vaccination
Are you really worried about what the uneducated masses think?
roughbarked said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
nothing to do with Dr Karl, but it did cross my mind that more frequently could mean more inconsistently, that you can increase frequency and reduce consistency, like removing a prophylactic of another kind numerous times during some activity that I won’t mention explicitly, and be self-assured you do the right thing frequently
you can have a higher frequency along with a declining barrier consistency
anyway, while i’m being silly, I might point out that wearing a mask is a very good way of advertising you may have a contagion, and cause suspicion, even if you don’t have the contagion
you could be in a room of twenty other people, half of which unknowingly have covid, an innocent plague swap party, oblivious sharing, and you’re the dodgy one
and if someone gets seriously ill they’ll probably remember you with your mask on, point on your direction secretly
yeah, and related most plague has been spread by vaccinated people for a long time now, overwhelmingly spread by vaccinated people, fully licensed, and did the death and injury stop, did it turn out to be less after vaccination
hmmm, what sort of license was vaccination
Are you really worried about what the uneducated masses think?
you sound assertive for so early in the morning, it’s unsettling, unnatural
transition said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:nothing to do with Dr Karl, but it did cross my mind that more frequently could mean more inconsistently, that you can increase frequency and reduce consistency, like removing a prophylactic of another kind numerous times during some activity that I won’t mention explicitly, and be self-assured you do the right thing frequently
you can have a higher frequency along with a declining barrier consistency
anyway, while i’m being silly, I might point out that wearing a mask is a very good way of advertising you may have a contagion, and cause suspicion, even if you don’t have the contagion
you could be in a room of twenty other people, half of which unknowingly have covid, an innocent plague swap party, oblivious sharing, and you’re the dodgy one
and if someone gets seriously ill they’ll probably remember you with your mask on, point on your direction secretly
yeah, and related most plague has been spread by vaccinated people for a long time now, overwhelmingly spread by vaccinated people, fully licensed, and did the death and injury stop, did it turn out to be less after vaccination
hmmm, what sort of license was vaccination
Are you really worried about what the uneducated masses think?
you sound assertive for so early in the morning, it’s unsettling, unnatural
:)
I’m always like this in the mornings.
“and did the death and injury stop, did it turn out to be less after vaccination”
Yes, way less.
roughbarked said:
transition said:
roughbarked said:Are you really worried about what the uneducated masses think?
you sound assertive for so early in the morning, it’s unsettling, unnatural
:)
I’m always like this in the mornings.
Just what I was thinking :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
“and did the death and injury stop, did it turn out to be less after vaccination”Yes, way less.
you must be ignoring the ~15000+ that died since christmas, and long covid might be10X that, whatever, who knows, and all the disruption from prolific unlimited plague
you’ve not given the context of mask use, or mask abandonment, as I was pointing toward, by quoting as you did
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
“and did the death and injury stop, did it turn out to be less after vaccination”Yes, way less.
you must be ignoring the ~15000+ that died since christmas, and long covid might be10X that, whatever, who knows, and all the disruption from prolific unlimited plague
you’ve not given the context of mask use, or mask abandonment, as I was pointing toward, by quoting as you did
whatever, nearly 12000 probably since christmas, the official numbers indicate, quick glance
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
“and did the death and injury stop, did it turn out to be less after vaccination”Yes, way less.
you must be ignoring the ~15000+ that died since christmas, and long covid might be10X that, whatever, who knows, and all the disruption from prolific unlimited plague
you’ve not given the context of mask use, or mask abandonment, as I was pointing toward, by quoting as you did
No, I’m not ignoring those numbers at all.
You are ignoring what the numbers inevitably would have been without vaccination.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
“and did the death and injury stop, did it turn out to be less after vaccination”Yes, way less.
you must be ignoring the ~15000+ that died since christmas, and long covid might be10X that, whatever, who knows, and all the disruption from prolific unlimited plague
you’ve not given the context of mask use, or mask abandonment, as I was pointing toward, by quoting as you did
No, I’m not ignoring those numbers at all.
You are ignoring what the numbers inevitably would have been without vaccination.
no, i’m saying vaccination was used to let it go, escalate to very high prevalence and extremely high levels of transmission
you’ve used your friend word there inevitably, your substitute for thought, a thought terminater
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:you must be ignoring the ~15000+ that died since christmas, and long covid might be10X that, whatever, who knows, and all the disruption from prolific unlimited plague
you’ve not given the context of mask use, or mask abandonment, as I was pointing toward, by quoting as you did
No, I’m not ignoring those numbers at all.
You are ignoring what the numbers inevitably would have been without vaccination.
no, i’m saying vaccination was used to let it go, escalate to very high prevalence and extremely high levels of transmission
you’ve used your friend word there inevitably, your substitute for thought, a thought terminater
I know what you are saying.
I am disagreeing with you.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:No, I’m not ignoring those numbers at all.
You are ignoring what the numbers inevitably would have been without vaccination.
no, i’m saying vaccination was used to let it go, escalate to very high prevalence and extremely high levels of transmission
you’ve used your friend word there inevitably, your substitute for thought, a thought terminater
I know what you are saying.
I am disagreeing with you.
tell me there’s no relationship between mask-use-fade and reliance on vaccination
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:no, i’m saying vaccination was used to let it go, escalate to very high prevalence and extremely high levels of transmission
you’ve used your friend word there inevitably, your substitute for thought, a thought terminater
I know what you are saying.
I am disagreeing with you.
tell me there’s no relationship between mask-use-fade and reliance on vaccination
Why on earth would I make a ridiculous comment like that?
That would be almost as silly as suggesting that vaccines haven’t greatly reduced the number of deaths that would have occurred without them.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I know what you are saying.
I am disagreeing with you.
tell me there’s no relationship between mask-use-fade and reliance on vaccination
Why on earth would I make a ridiculous comment like that?
That would be almost as silly as suggesting that vaccines haven’t greatly reduced the number of deaths that would have occurred without them.
I don’t think I said anything like that, that latter as you infer, but whatever i’m sure we’ve got nothing better to do than explore the limits of your mind reading abilities, and here we are
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:tell me there’s no relationship between mask-use-fade and reliance on vaccination
Why on earth would I make a ridiculous comment like that?
That would be almost as silly as suggesting that vaccines haven’t greatly reduced the number of deaths that would have occurred without them.
I don’t think I said anything like that, that latter as you infer, but whatever i’m sure we’ve got nothing better to do than explore the limits of your mind reading abilities, and here we are
Glad I misunderstood you then :)
Now off to lie down and stretch.
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Why on earth would I make a ridiculous comment like that?
That would be almost as silly as suggesting that vaccines haven’t greatly reduced the number of deaths that would have occurred without them.
I don’t think I said anything like that, that latter as you infer, but whatever i’m sure we’ve got nothing better to do than explore the limits of your mind reading abilities, and here we are
Glad I misunderstood you then :)
Now off to lie down and stretch.
I’m off to finish planting my sapphire spuds before the rain hits severely.
And we passed ten million cases here today.
Yay.
we agree that vaccination has been cynically abused to misguide risk compensation
SCIENCE said:
we agree that vaccination has been cynically abused to misguide risk compensation
I don’t agree.
I think vaccination is about the best we can do. It is not perfect but it is all we’ve got.
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
we agree that vaccination has been cynically abused to misguide risk compensation
I don’t agree.
I think vaccination is about the best we can do. It is not perfect but it is all we’ve got.
what is, how would you define the purpose of vaccination, regard covid specifically
transition said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
we agree that vaccination has been cynically abused to misguide risk compensation
I don’t agree.
I think vaccination is about the best we can do. It is not perfect but it is all we’ve got.
what is, how would you define the purpose of vaccination, regard covid specifically
given that vaccination is 30% effective against infection and 70% effective against nasty outcomes then we agree they’re not perfect and they may well be all that some people have but damn if only there were something that was 99.7% effective against infection then it might surprise people to learn that less than 40% of people use it
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
party_pants said:
I don’t agree.
I think vaccination is about the best we can do. It is not perfect but it is all we’ve got.
what is, how would you define the purpose of vaccination, regard covid specifically
given that vaccination is 30% effective against infection and 70% effective against nasty outcomes then we agree they’re not perfect and they may well be all that some people have but damn if only there were something that was 99.7% effective against infection then it might surprise people to learn that less than 40% of people use it
imagine, if I asked that question above, and few were inclined to answer, what might that indicate
transition said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
we agree that vaccination has been cynically abused to misguide risk compensation
I don’t agree.
I think vaccination is about the best we can do. It is not perfect but it is all we’ve got.
what is, how would you define the purpose of vaccination, regard covid specifically
I don’t agree that the vaccinations have been “cynically abused to misguide”. Just because they are not 100% effective does not mean we should question the motives behind their widespread use and adoption. I understand completely that the vaccines I took are no guarantee against dying from Covid, but I took them anyway being convinced they were better than not having them.
party_pants said:
transition said:
party_pants said:I don’t agree.
I think vaccination is about the best we can do. It is not perfect but it is all we’ve got.
what is, how would you define the purpose of vaccination, regard covid specifically
I don’t agree that the vaccinations have been “cynically abused to misguide”. Just because they are not 100% effective does not mean we should question the motives behind their widespread use and adoption. I understand completely that the vaccines I took are no guarantee against dying from Covid, but I took them anyway being convinced they were better than not having them.
yeah nah wasn’t agreeing or disagreeing with SCIENCE
if I take from what you just said that covid vaccination for you is quite simply to reduce your chances of dying, i’d ask does that define the purpose of vaccination
I mean for starters, you mean a range of illness or injury that might result in death, and I guess that range also includes a range of illness or injury types that may not result in death, there is surely overlap
avoiding death from covid infection surely involves avoiding injury from covid infection
transition said:
party_pants said:
transition said:what is, how would you define the purpose of vaccination, regard covid specifically
I don’t agree that the vaccinations have been “cynically abused to misguide”. Just because they are not 100% effective does not mean we should question the motives behind their widespread use and adoption. I understand completely that the vaccines I took are no guarantee against dying from Covid, but I took them anyway being convinced they were better than not having them.
yeah nah wasn’t agreeing or disagreeing with SCIENCE
if I take from what you just said that covid vaccination for you is quite simply to reduce your chances of dying, i’d ask does that define the purpose of vaccination
I mean for starters, you mean a range of illness or injury that might result in death, and I guess that range also includes a range of illness or injury types that may not result in death, there is surely overlap
avoiding death from covid infection surely involves avoiding injury from covid infection
For me, yes. The purpose of the vaccine is to reduce my chances of dying. Better still would be to reduce the severity of an infection as much as possible while allowing for a much quicker recovery.
In an ideal world it would be 100%, but in my health situation I’ll take whatever numbers I can get in my favour. There is some overlap between not dying and not being quite so badly injured.
party_pants said:
don’t agree that the vaccinations have been “cynically abused to misguide”. Just because they are not 100% effective does not mean we should question the motives behind their widespread use and adoption
uh that’s exactly the point, vaccines protect, their purpose is to protect but hence the word “abuse” implies that contrary to their purpose, some malicious actors are using a distorted representation of their effectiveness to trade off alternative risk profiles with the effect of therefore increasing risk
if the point of disagreement is the number of “some malicious actors” then fine we each have our own local counts
party_pants said:
transition said:
party_pants said:I don’t agree that the vaccinations have been “cynically abused to misguide”. Just because they are not 100% effective does not mean we should question the motives behind their widespread use and adoption. I understand completely that the vaccines I took are no guarantee against dying from Covid, but I took them anyway being convinced they were better than not having them.
yeah nah wasn’t agreeing or disagreeing with SCIENCE
if I take from what you just said that covid vaccination for you is quite simply to reduce your chances of dying, i’d ask does that define the purpose of vaccination
I mean for starters, you mean a range of illness or injury that might result in death, and I guess that range also includes a range of illness or injury types that may not result in death, there is surely overlap
avoiding death from covid infection surely involves avoiding injury from covid infection
For me, yes. The purpose of the vaccine is to reduce my chances of dying. Better still would be to reduce the severity of an infection as much as possible while allowing for a much quicker recovery.
In an ideal world it would be 100%, but in my health situation I’ll take whatever numbers I can get in my favour. There is some overlap between not dying and not being quite so badly injured.
so there’s a range of possible serious injuries caused by covid infection, some of which result in death
I guess there are arguments that might be had regard what is a serious injury, what qualifies
could agree on what an injury is though, upfront
transition said:
there’s a range of possible serious injuries caused by covid infection, some of which result in death
I guess there are arguments that might be had regard what is a serious injury, what qualifies
could agree on what an injury is though, upfront
Here’s our suggestion, enjoy it or endure it, serious injury is anything that we(1,0,0) suffer, and silly injury is what others(0,1,1) suffer, as in
if we suffer from something then it’s serious, and if others suffer from something then it’s silly¡
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party_pants said:
transition said:yeah nah wasn’t agreeing or disagreeing with SCIENCE
if I take from what you just said that covid vaccination for you is quite simply to reduce your chances of dying, i’d ask does that define the purpose of vaccination
I mean for starters, you mean a range of illness or injury that might result in death, and I guess that range also includes a range of illness or injury types that may not result in death, there is surely overlap
avoiding death from covid infection surely involves avoiding injury from covid infection
For me, yes. The purpose of the vaccine is to reduce my chances of dying. Better still would be to reduce the severity of an infection as much as possible while allowing for a much quicker recovery.
In an ideal world it would be 100%, but in my health situation I’ll take whatever numbers I can get in my favour. There is some overlap between not dying and not being quite so badly injured.
so there’s a range of possible serious injuries caused by covid infection, some of which result in death
I guess there are arguments that might be had regard what is a serious injury, what qualifies
could agree on what an injury is though, upfront
let’s say injury is whatever that results in reduced fitness, in some way, and there is too, importantly, the experience of reduced fitness, and of course there are adaptations that compensate, that may even completely dissolve the experience of reduced fitness
now consider injury types that may not respond well to adaptive compensations, they may undermine adaptive potential
say a ‘wobbly’ immune system in response to covid infection, I doubt life is much fun without a comfortably functioning immune system, and I say comfortably because people do actually experience something of their immune system function, it’s part of broader homeostasis, maintaining integrity of the organism
seems there are immune mechanisms right into and effect brain function, experience of the home in the head
maybe many allergy sufferers really do have their experience of everything profoundly altered my immune responses
anyway, to what is an injury, what might qualify as a serious injury
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
In relation to Covid how?
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
In relation to Covid how?
What are you trying to say?
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
In relation to Covid how?
What are you trying to say?
the numbers speak for themselves
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
What are you trying to say?
the numbers speak for themselves
Each set of numbers belong to their own issue.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
What are you trying to say?
the numbers speak for themselves
Each set of numbers belong to their own issue.
which issue is that, health or wellbeing
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
the numbers speak for themselves
Each set of numbers belong to their own issue.
which issue is that, health or wellbeing
Where the funding goes.
SCIENCE said:
the numbers speak for themselves
here’s some abuse of numbers
The Central Visayas region in the Philippines, which includes the provinces of Bohol, Cebu, Negros Oriental and Siquijor, have reported a 1175 percent increase in measles cases in 2022 compared to the same period in 2021. From the beginning of the year through August 6, the Central Visayas (Region VII) reported 51 measles cases. This compares to four cases reported in 2021 during the same time period. Measles is up nationally across the archipelago with 339 cases, a 153 percent increase compared to 2021 (134 cases).
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
the numbers speak for themselves
Each set of numbers belong to their own issue.
which issue is that, health or wellbeing
Mainland China reported 1,717 domestically transmitted COVID infections for August 29, including 349 symptomatic ones and 1,368 asymptomatic infections, official data showed on Tuesday.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
https://www.ft.com/content/26e0731f-15c4-4f5a-b2dc-fd8591a02aec
fucking
hahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Stop The Teals
We’re over the worst of the latest round of flu + covid in Australia. Fingers crossed.
The covid death rate in Australia is dropping, but still higher than just about all other western countries.
The following table is new deaths per million population, 7 day smoothed.
Countries from the former Yugoslavia and adjacent Greece and Hungary have a high death rate again. But remember that they used to have death rates above ten per million population per day. Now they’re only a fifth of that.
Covid deaths in Australia compared with that in the Balkans and Japan
Same chart but with cases (leaving off Greece with bad data). The number of cases in Australia are way down on two months ago, but the number of deaths isn’t. The high number of cases in Japan is consistent with a much lower mortality rate there than in Australia.
Wait…did the USA, with their weird healthcare system, outperform Australia on deaths per million?
Am I reading this graph correctly? Winter of 2019 had higher cough and fever levels reported than right through the pandemic months? And this Winter is getting back near normal? Do you have a graph that goes further back, or was the cough and fever watch project only started in 2019?
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
https://www.ft.com/content/26e0731f-15c4-4f5a-b2dc-fd8591a02aec
fucking
The growing evidence that Covid-19 is leaving people sicker
hahahahahahahahahahahahahah
¡¡ in braking news
life expectancy has gone from 8e+1 years to 8e+1 years
https://www.news.vcu.edu/article/2022/04/us-life-expectancy-continued-to-fall-in-2021
¡¡ woah slow down, they’re
actually months ago
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
https://www.ft.com/content/26e0731f-15c4-4f5a-b2dc-fd8591a02aec
fucking
The growing evidence that Covid-19 is leaving people sicker
hahahahahahahahahahahahahah
¡¡ in braking news
life expectancy has gone from 8e+1 years to 8e+1 years
https://www.news.vcu.edu/article/2022/04/us-life-expectancy-continued-to-fall-in-2021
¡¡ woah slow down, they’re
actually months ago
“Sadly, it was not a surprise to see the disproportionate impact on people of color,” he continued. “Our research had shown that previously. But there was an interesting plot twist in 2021: the only decrease in life expectancy occurred in white people. Life expectancy in the Black population even increased. Despite that increase, life expectancy in the Black population remains far lower than in other groups, but the disproportionate impact on white people holds clues to what happened in 2021.”
I think the message is a bit confused there.
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:SCIENCE said:
ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
https://www.ft.com/content/26e0731f-15c4-4f5a-b2dc-fd8591a02aec
fucking
The growing evidence that Covid-19 is leaving people sicker
hahahahahahahahahahahahahah
¡¡ in braking news
life expectancy has gone from 8e+1 years to 8e+1 years
https://www.news.vcu.edu/article/2022/04/us-life-expectancy-continued-to-fall-in-2021
¡¡ woah slow down, they’re
actually months ago
“Sadly, it was not a surprise to see the disproportionate impact on people of color,” he continued. “Our research had shown that previously. But there was an interesting plot twist in 2021: the only decrease in life expectancy occurred in white people. Life expectancy in the Black population even increased. Despite that increase, life expectancy in the Black population remains far lower than in other groups, but the disproportionate impact on white people holds clues to what happened in 2021.”
I think the message is a bit confused there.
I was just about to post numbers for Australia, but then I read:
NOTE: All 2020 and later data are UN projections and DO NOT include any impacts of the COVID-19 virus.
so I won’t bother.
lol
Children as young as 13 could be put to work to help fill labour shortages as Australia’s peak retail body calls for national minimum working age requirements. Ahead of the federal government’s jobs and skills summit, the Australian Retailers Association (ARA) has released a submission calling for businesses to be able to tap into willing school-age workers.
fucking reopen those coal mines please dirty Labor we need jobs jobs jobs
wonder what caused labour shortages
SCIENCE said:
lol
Children as young as 13 could be put to work to help fill labour shortages as Australia’s peak retail body calls for national minimum working age requirements. Ahead of the federal government’s jobs and skills summit, the Australian Retailers Association (ARA) has released a submission calling for businesses to be able to tap into willing school-age workers.
fucking reopen those coal mines please dirty Labor we need jobs jobs jobs
wonder what caused labour shortages
If they are desperate for workers will they pay them more than award wages
SCIENCE said:
lol
Children as young as 13 could be put to work to help fill labour shortages as Australia’s peak retail body calls for national minimum working age requirements. Ahead of the federal government’s jobs and skills summit, the Australian Retailers Association (ARA) has released a submission calling for businesses to be able to tap into willing school-age workers.
fucking reopen those coal mines please dirty Labor we need jobs jobs jobs
wonder what caused labour shortages
How about Jobs creating solar panel farms.
and Jobs creating battery farms
SCIENCE said:
lol
Children as young as 13 could be put to work to help fill labour shortages as Australia’s peak retail body calls for national minimum working age requirements. Ahead of the federal government’s jobs and skills summit, the Australian Retailers Association (ARA) has released a submission calling for businesses to be able to tap into willing school-age workers.
fucking reopen those coal mines please dirty Labor we need jobs jobs jobs
wonder what caused labour shortages
COVID put the ki-bosh on a ready supply of backpackers willing to labour in the fields for less than Australians who will be hunted by the Tax Office. Backpackers would take less, in the hand, because they’d not pay tax on it. They should notify of their earnings, but they don’t, because by the time that the wheels of bureaucracy turn and the ATO comes looking for them, they’re safely back in Sweden or wherever, and they ATO isn’t going to spend buck chasing a few dollars out of someone on the other side of the planet.
The growers leave it up to their accountants to arrange the books so it look like they did the right thing, and just pocket a few extra dollars.
As well, COVID threw a lot of ‘low-level’ workers e.g. kitchenhands out of their jobs, and forced them to find alternative and perhaps better ways to get by. Now that COVID is ‘over’, few are willing to go back to being treated like a pit-pony in terrible jobs.
Add to that the reluctance of a lot of trades people to take on apprentices for various reasons (only one of which is the opportunity to ‘boast’ about how you’re doing it so tough that you cant afford to have an apprentice) which has been prevalent for many years, and suddenly there’s no younger tradespeople, and you can’t just ship them in from ‘overseas’.
SCIENCE said:
lol
Children as young as 13 could be put to work to help fill labour shortages as Australia’s peak retail body calls for national minimum working age requirements. Ahead of the federal government’s jobs and skills summit, the Australian Retailers Association (ARA) has released a submission calling for businesses to be able to tap into willing school-age workers.
fucking reopen those coal mines please dirty Labor we need jobs jobs jobs
wonder what caused labour shortages
surely the liberal plague thing isn’t rendering the workforce less fit, infections, repeat infections, the prospect of repeat infections, isn’t fucking people
not been taken over by grifter cunts entirely, looking for offerings to keep the debt monster happy
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-31/covid-isolation-requirements-shortened-to-five-days/101389766
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-31/covid-isolation-requirements-shortened-to-five-days/101389766
nice but why even bother having them at all, like if you’re going to make them look nonserious then why even say people should take anything seriously
like, this will make The Economy Must Grow happen quick won’t it, it’ll solve the labour shortage for sure
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
whatever, a momentary intrigue
maybe this too will pass
An outbreak of a new viral infection referred to as tomato flu that was first detected in children in the southern Indian state of Kerala in May has spread to two other states. According to an article in the Lancet Respiratory Medicine, 82 children aged under five had been diagnosed with the virus in Kerala as of 26 July. Scientists are still trying to identify exactly what this virus is. It has been referred to as tomato flu because of the painful red blisters it produces on the body, and it is very contagious. Children are particularly vulnerable because it spreads easily through close contact, such as via nappies, touching unclean surfaces or putting things in mouths.
WTF
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2022/08/25/tomato-flu-india/
https://theconversation.com/tomato-flu-outbreak-in-india-heres-what-it-really-is-189413
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-31/covid-isolation-requirements-shortened-to-five-days/101389766
nice but why even bother having them at all, like if you’re going to make them look nonserious then why even say people should take anything seriously
like, this will make The Economy Must Grow happen quick won’t it, it’ll solve the labour shortage for sure
the plan, the trajectory is to do away with isolation, it’s evident in the noises
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-31/covid-isolation-requirements-shortened-to-five-days/101389766
nice but why even bother having them at all, like if you’re going to make them look nonserious then why even say people should take anything seriously
like, this will make The Economy Must Grow happen quick won’t it, it’ll solve the labour shortage for sure
the plan, the trajectory is to do away with isolation, it’s evident in the noises
a bit like pushing vaccination hard though, there are bigger fights
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
lol
Children as young as 13 could be put to work to help fill labour shortages as Australia’s peak retail body calls for national minimum working age requirements. Ahead of the federal government’s jobs and skills summit, the Australian Retailers Association (ARA) has released a submission calling for businesses to be able to tap into willing school-age workers.
fucking reopen those coal mines please dirty Labor we need jobs jobs jobs
wonder what caused labour shortages
surely the liberal plague thing isn’t rendering the workforce less fit, infections, repeat infections, the prospect of repeat infections, isn’t fucking people
not been taken over by grifter cunts entirely, looking for offerings to keep the debt monster happy
though pretty sure even when we grew up, school aged did actually do paid work
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
nice but why even bother having them at all, like if you’re going to make them look nonserious then why even say people should take anything seriously
like, this will make The Economy Must Grow happen quick won’t it, it’ll solve the labour shortage for sure
the plan, the trajectory is to do away with isolation, it’s evident in the noises
a bit like pushing vaccination hard though, there are bigger fights
think you could say covid became bullets for the AK-47 of freedom quite a way back now
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
lol
Children as young as 13 could be put to work to help fill labour shortages as Australia’s peak retail body calls for national minimum working age requirements. Ahead of the federal government’s jobs and skills summit, the Australian Retailers Association (ARA) has released a submission calling for businesses to be able to tap into willing school-age workers.
fucking reopen those coal mines please dirty Labor we need jobs jobs jobs
wonder what caused labour shortages
surely the liberal plague thing isn’t rendering the workforce less fit, infections, repeat infections, the prospect of repeat infections, isn’t fucking people
not been taken over by grifter cunts entirely, looking for offerings to keep the debt monster happy
though pretty sure even when we grew up, school aged did actually do paid work
yeah but the kids weren’t made instrumental to a policy of spreading plague, intentionally
that’s never happened before
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
lol
Children as young as 13 could be put to work to help fill labour shortages as Australia’s peak retail body calls for national minimum working age requirements. Ahead of the federal government’s jobs and skills summit, the Australian Retailers Association (ARA) has released a submission calling for businesses to be able to tap into willing school-age workers.
fucking reopen those coal mines please dirty Labor we need jobs jobs jobs
wonder what caused labour shortages
surely the liberal plague thing isn’t rendering the workforce less fit, infections, repeat infections, the prospect of repeat infections, isn’t fucking people
not been taken over by grifter cunts entirely, looking for offerings to keep the debt monster happy
though pretty sure even when we grew up, school aged did actually do paid work
I had a paper round in the morning and delivered chemist prescriptions in the evening. Sold papers at the footy and racing on the weekends. I was basically enslaved – I tells ya.
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
lol
Children as young as 13 could be put to work to help fill labour shortages as Australia’s peak retail body calls for national minimum working age requirements. Ahead of the federal government’s jobs and skills summit, the Australian Retailers Association (ARA) has released a submission calling for businesses to be able to tap into willing school-age workers.
fucking reopen those coal mines please dirty Labor we need jobs jobs jobs
wonder what caused labour shortages
surely the liberal plague thing isn’t rendering the workforce less fit, infections, repeat infections, the prospect of repeat infections, isn’t fucking people
not been taken over by grifter cunts entirely, looking for offerings to keep the debt monster happy
though pretty sure even when we grew up, school aged did actually do paid work
I got one pound for cutting a firebreak around a block of land and a dollar a day for sweeping the floor of a workshop. Graduated to $1.20 per half bushel case of olives which took about an hour to pick and you got docked the whole box if any one in the box was bruised.
remember when people used to put garbage in the bin
SCIENCE said:
remember when people used to put garbage in the bin
ah well at least there are steps towards the centre* which may signal hope
*: these steps are also towards the left, in case anyone was wondering
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-31/covid-isolation-requirements-shortened-to-five-days/101389766
nice but why even bother having them at all, like if you’re going to make them look nonserious then why even say people should take anything seriously
like, this will make The Economy Must Grow happen quick won’t it, it’ll solve the labour shortage for sure
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-31/covid-isolation-requirements-shortened-to-five-days/101389766
nice but why even bother having them at all, like if you’re going to make them look nonserious then why even say people should take anything seriously
like, this will make The Economy Must Grow happen quick won’t it, it’ll solve the labour shortage for sure
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
nice but why even bother having them at all, like if you’re going to make them look nonserious then why even say people should take anything seriously
like, this will make The Economy Must Grow happen quick won’t it, it’ll solve the labour shortage for sure
You know it’s trouble when Kerryn Phelps is the “voice of reason”.
oops
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
You know it’s trouble when Kerryn Phelps is the “voice of reason”.
but mich is saying same
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
You know it’s trouble when Kerryn Phelps is the “voice of reason”.
but mich is saying same
Oh, I’m agreeing with you; when Kerryn Phelps really is the “voice of reason” then something has gone awry is my basic point.
SCIENCE said:
oops
scratch head
SCIENCE said:
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
You know it’s trouble when Kerryn Phelps is the “voice of reason”.
but mich is saying same
you can be sure the trend will continue toward people having less responsibility for community transmission (and bad outcomes), there’s plenty hoodoo to help that happen
transition said:
SCIENCE said:sibeen said:
You know it’s trouble when Kerryn Phelps is the “voice of reason”.
but mich is saying same
you can be sure the trend will continue toward people having less responsibility for community transmission (and bad outcomes), there’s plenty hoodoo to help that happen
i’d say that of the situation vaccines are deployed to provide diminished responsibility for community transmission (of covid), there is no turning back that corruption, nor will it stay with just covid, how could it
nice health promotion
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-01/japan-covid-19-wave-tourism-business-tours/101375056
Japanese bars and Izakayas have been hit hard by the pandemic — alcohol sales halved from 2019 to 2020, according to the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry.
The ministry said nearly 8 per cent of people in their 20s drank regularly, compared with 30 per cent of people aged in their 40s to 60s.
Revenue from alcohol sales is decreasing, so the government wants the the “Sake Viva!” campaign to “stimulate demand among young people” for alcohol, according to CNN.
don’t know about the religious symbolism but hey at least there’s recognition for people who actually support health
ah well luckily there’s a recent significant cause of kidney failure that we can actually prevent
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-31/nt-kidney-disease-medication-listing/101389348
A University of Queensland-led study has found millions of COVID-19 patients may have undiagnosed acute kidney injury (AKI). AKI is a condition where the kidneys suddenly fail to filter waste from the blood, which can lead to serious illness or even death. Existing data indicates approximately 20 per cent of patients admitted to hospital with COVID-19 develop AKI, rising to roughly 40 per cent for those in intensive care.
https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2022/06/covid-kidney-injury-twice-common-diagnosed
Yvette D’Ath announced daily reporting of COVID statistics would be wound back and a blanket COVID-19 vaccine mandate direction for private health care workers would be lifted and that there would be no needless closure of borders that would prevent the free movement of PWM and goods.
ah well guess providing nursing courses free of charge should fix this
must be pretty funny right
Steady improvements in American life expectancy have stalled, and more Americans are dying at younger ages. But for companies straining under the burden of their pension obligations, the distressing trend could have a grim upside: If people don’t end up living as long as they were projected to just a few years ago, their employers ultimately won’t have to pay them as much in pension and other lifelong retirement benefits.
from your favorite USSAmerican, Fauci sorry we mean what do they call the fellow, fraud or something
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.08.30.22279344v1
Recent SARS-CoV-2 infection abrogates antibody and B-cell responses to booster vaccination
Spike-specific B-cell responses from recent infection were elevated at pre-boost but comparatively less so at 60 days post-boost compared to uninfected individuals,
Thus, B-cell responses to booster vaccines are impeded by recent infection.
SCIENCE said:
must be pretty funny rightSteady improvements in American life expectancy have stalled, and more Americans are dying at younger ages. But for companies straining under the burden of their pension obligations, the distressing trend could have a grim upside: If people don’t end up living as long as they were projected to just a few years ago, their employers ultimately won’t have to pay them as much in pension and other lifelong retirement benefits.
a grim upside
what be the inverse or flipside that
a positive downside
perhaps it means good news
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
must be pretty funny rightSteady improvements in American life expectancy have stalled, and more Americans are dying at younger ages. But for companies straining under the burden of their pension obligations, the distressing trend could have a grim upside: If people don’t end up living as long as they were projected to just a few years ago, their employers ultimately won’t have to pay them as much in pension and other lifelong retirement benefits.
a grim upside
what be the inverse or flipside that
a positive downside
perhaps it means good news
8 August 2017 date on that page
transition said:
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SCIENCE said:
must be pretty funny right
Steady improvements in American life expectancy have stalled, and more Americans are dying at younger ages. But for companies straining under the burden of their pension obligations, the distressing trend could have a grim upside: If people don’t end up living as long as they were projected to just a few years ago, their employers ultimately won’t have to pay them as much in pension and other lifelong retirement benefits.
a grim upside
what be the inverse or flipside that
a positive downside
perhaps it means good news
8 August 2017 date on that page
so what’s changed
apart from where it says “stalled” and we could replace with “started to dive” or something
whingers going to whinge
oh wait they’re actually sensible experts and people and all that oh well wonder what they’re complaining about
nice cull
SCIENCE said:
nice cull
most the susceptible would have been exposure-tested by then, so long as the footpaths aren’t cluttering quicker than can be cleared, roads etc too, and storm water drains aren’t embarrassingly blocked stinking the place up
Peak Warming Man said:
Yvette D’Ath announced daily reporting of COVID statistics would be wound back and a blanket COVID-19 vaccine mandate direction for private health care workers would be lifted and that there would be no needless closure of borders that would prevent the free movement of PWM and goods.
ah QLD what a beautiful politic
yeah why fucking tell it like it is when you can replace honest reportage with lots of colours and flashing lights instead
excellent stuff
Children and teens who’ve had COVID are at greater risk for blood clots, heart problems, kidney failure, and Type 1 diabetes, according to a new report released Thursday by U.S. health officials. They found that young people who had been diagnosed with COVID were about two times more likely to experience a blood clot in the lung—and nearly two times more likely to experience myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle; cardiomyopathy, a disease that makes it more difficult for the heart to function correctly; or blood clots in veins—in the year following their illness. They were also roughly 1.3 times as likely to experience kidney failure, as well as Type 1 diabetes, an autoimmune disorder that destroys the pancreas’s ability to make insulin, according to the study.
An estimated 5% to 10% of children who’ve had COVID go on to develop long COVID, Dr. Alexandra Brugler Yonts, an infectious disease specialist at Children’s National Hospital in Washington, D.C., told Fortune in May. At the lower end of that range are kids with “true long COVID, whatever that means,” she added. “We’re still figuring it out.”
SCIENCE said:
excellent stuff
Children and teens who’ve had COVID are at greater risk for blood clots, heart problems, kidney failure, and Type 1 diabetes, according to a new report released Thursday by U.S. health officials. They found that young people who had been diagnosed with COVID were about two times more likely to experience a blood clot in the lung—and nearly two times more likely to experience myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle; cardiomyopathy, a disease that makes it more difficult for the heart to function correctly; or blood clots in veins—in the year following their illness. They were also roughly 1.3 times as likely to experience kidney failure, as well as Type 1 diabetes, an autoimmune disorder that destroys the pancreas’s ability to make insulin, according to the study.
An estimated 5% to 10% of children who’ve had COVID go on to develop long COVID, Dr. Alexandra Brugler Yonts, an infectious disease specialist at Children’s National Hospital in Washington, D.C., told Fortune in May. At the lower end of that range are kids with “true long COVID, whatever that means,” she added. “We’re still figuring it out.”
be a bit primitive of me to consider the metaphysics of disease, the experience, the dis-ease, wouldn’t like to offend those that perhaps are not so generous toward the metaphysical
i’ll mention the idea of viral insult, and point out that notions about pathogens weakening people has been around for a long time, preceding science i’d expect, i’d mention also that the idea of convalescence has been around a long time also
as a tease i’ll throw in that the modern cultural reliance on the advanced status of modern science(and medicine related) hasn’t progressed appreciation of what generates optimum mental states yet, of healthy people, fit people, the home in the head, the ease, so don’t be impatient when it comes to them explaining dis-ease
it’s a neat ideological device i’m sure, helps the ignorance persist, and perhaps even advances it
transition said:
it’s a neat ideological device i’m sure, helps the ignorance persist, and perhaps even advances it
this is lookin’ good, hospitals are full and staffing is 10% down
fair
well at least they didn’t shut the schools and force their students to learn how to learn online
Studieresultaten i årskurs tre, sex och nio har försämrats i Umeå kommun under pandemin. Det visar en sammanställning av resultaten från nationella proven våren 2022 som Umeå kommun har gjort.
Studieresultaten i grundskolan hos elever i Umeå kommun visar sämre nivå våren 2022 jämfört med tidigare år. Kommunens bedömning är att det är den höga frånvaron som är främsta orsaken. Men trots kunskapstappet ligger Umeå bra till i jämförelse med riket, säger Fredrik Strandgren, enhetschef på utbildningskontoret.
We Blame The Lockdowns That Didn’t Happen ¡
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SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-31/covid-isolation-requirements-shortened-to-five-days/101389766
nice but why even bother having them at all, like if you’re going to make them look nonserious then why even say people should take anything seriously
like, this will make The Economy Must Grow happen quick won’t it, it’ll solve the labour shortage for sure
the plan, the trajectory is to do away with isolation, it’s evident in the noises
Surprise Surprise ¡
did we mention
The New South Wales premier, Dominic Perrottet, has called for the mandatory isolation period for Covid to be scrapped, just days after it was reduced. Earlier this week, national cabinet agreed to lower the mandatory isolation time for Covid-positive cases from seven days to five, which will come into effect from next Friday. While the NSW premier had been vocal in calling for the reduction, he told Sky News the isolation period should be removed entirely “as soon as possible”. “I believe we need to move away from public health orders, we need to move … to a system in which we’ll respect each other – if you’re sick you stay at home, if you’re not sick go to work,” he said.
Surprise¿
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
nice but why even bother having them at all, like if you’re going to make them look nonserious then why even say people should take anything seriously
like, this will make The Economy Must Grow happen quick won’t it, it’ll solve the labour shortage for sure
the plan, the trajectory is to do away with isolation, it’s evident in the noises
Surprise Surprise ¡
did we mention
The New South Wales premier, Dominic Perrottet, has called for the mandatory isolation period for Covid to be scrapped, just days after it was reduced. Earlier this week, national cabinet agreed to lower the mandatory isolation time for Covid-positive cases from seven days to five, which will come into effect from next Friday. While the NSW premier had been vocal in calling for the reduction, he told Sky News the isolation period should be removed entirely “as soon as possible”. “I believe we need to move away from public health orders, we need to move … to a system in which we’ll respect each other – if you’re sick you stay at home, if you’re not sick go to work,” he said.
Surprise¿
LOLOLOLOLOL
back to our serious questions then
if there is this fucked up level of consensus in that national broomcloset or whatever they call it
why the fuck are they even changing it step by step
¿
just rip the isolation scab off once and for all you dickheads
kind of interesting read
here is text we extracted just for yousall
Wait. What happened in the past year? How much did it deteriorate?
Let’s look at the Swiss health insurer’s, CSS’, health study published today. 🧵
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Yeah the health of the Swiss deteriorated a lot in 2.25 years.
March ’20: 22% were not fully healthy/ (partly) sick
June ’22: that number grew to 35%
13 percentage points more people are at least somewhat unhealthy now than at the beginning of the pandemic.
Alt text translation
Your own health situation -…
Most of the Swiss’ health deterioration happened in the last year. This past year, protective measures were taken away with the justification of “mild” omicron.
Both “(partly) sick” AND “not fully healthy” grew 4 percentage points in only a year.
That is mind boggling.
Own health situation – comp…
Let that sink in. The % of ppl who consider themselves (very) healthy in CH🇨🇭sunk in 2.25 years from 78% to 65%.
That change in health shows a rapid decline in quality of life for many. How will it affect:
➡️ pressure on the health system?
➡️ workers, productivity?
➡️ spending?
And yes, every age group saw a reduction in % (very) healthy during the pandemic. 36-65 YOs changed the most in the past year.
18-35 in Mar ’20 84% 📉 June ’22 75%
35-65 in Mar ’20 78% 📉 June ’22 65%
66+ in Mar ’20 70% 📉 June ’22 59%
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Corresponding to deteriorating health in the last year in Switzerland, the number of sick days in the last 12 months has increased in the last year.
The % of workers out sick in the last 12 months is at a high, too.
That can’t be good for workers or companies.
Frequency of being sick by …
Ironically, people are more concerned about the pandemic affecting them personally or society more now, after the gov declared the pandemic over, than the whole pandemic.
4 or 5 – (very) big
Personal fears: ’20 – 23% 📈‘22 – 28%
Societal danger: ’20 – 39% 📈‘22 – 52%
Pandemics as a personal or …
The Swiss health minister declared the “acute pandemic” over in March ’22. CH🇨🇭 reduced COVID reporting frequency to once a week and trashed isolation, quarantine, and mask requirements.
This survey shows that folks are not forgetting about the pandemic, despite gov efforts.
And to top it all off, more and more people think that long COVID is downplayed.
In fact, the majority of 18-35 YOs believe LC is downplayed.
Only 1 in 5 believe that LC is over hyped, down from 1 in 3 last year.
Why would more people believe in long COVID now?
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Above shows that there is an appetite from the people to understand, treat, and prevent long COVID better in Switzerland.
Why isn’t the Swiss CDC, @BAG_OFSP_UFSP, doing more to help people protect thier health and fund research for treatments?
This was such an interesting survey to overview. There’s much more to say about the results, but which one to start with? Like any of the graphs you’re interested in more of a deeper dive into and I’ll prioritize from there.
Good night.
CSS Gesundheitsstudie 2022: Im dritten Jahr der Pandemie hat sich die Gesundheit der Schweizer Bevölkerung markant verschlechtert
Die CSS Gesundheitsstudie zeigt eine anhaltende Verschlechterung des Gesundheitszustandes: ein Drittel der Bevölkerung fühlt sich nicht vollständig gesund.
https://www.css.ch/de/ueber-css/story/medien-publikationen/medien/medienmitteilungen/css-gesundheitsstudie-2022.html
SCIENCE said:
kind of interesting read
I’m glad that there was more to it than just the screen grab. For a moment, i thought that they might have started using Barnaby Joyce to write their reports.
ABC News:
‘Australian Signals Directorate 50-cent coin code cracked by Tasmanian 14yo in ‘just over an hour’
‘…ASD director-general Rachel Noble said…today that there was a fifth level of encryption on the coin which no one had broken yet.’
I rather doubt whether the Russians, Chinese, or even the Americans would notify Rachel of any success in that direction.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Australian Signals Directorate 50-cent coin code cracked by Tasmanian 14yo in ‘just over an hour’
‘…ASD director-general Rachel Noble said…today that there was a fifth level of encryption on the coin which no one had broken yet.’
I rather doubt whether the Russians, Chinese, or even the Americans would notify Rachel of any success in that direction.
Aaaaand, the wrong thread, again.
SCIENCE said:
kind of interesting read
this too
but sorry we’ll let everyone else do their own search and confirm or refute on this one
LOL
SCIENCE said:
LOL
L fucking OL
all this is so good and yet it gets better
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
LOL
L fucking OL
all this is so good and yet it gets better
quite hilarious too
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-people-off-sick-for-record-time-in-2022/a-62992149
The first half of 2022 saw a marked rise in the duration of sick leave, according to a leading medical insurance company. But most of the illnesses were not COVID-19.
The first half of 2022 saw a marked rise in the duration of sick leave, according to a leading medical insurance company. But most of the illnesses were not COVID-19.
sorry we meant to say
most of the illnesses were not acute manifestations of COVID-19
here have something useful we’re linking to for once
https://sgeas.unimelb.edu.au/engage/air-cleaner-guide/frequently-asked-questions
also not our work
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
the plan, the trajectory is to do away with isolation, it’s evident in the noises
Surprise Surprise ¡
did we mention
The New South Wales premier, Dominic Perrottet, has called for the mandatory isolation period for Covid to be scrapped, just days after it was reduced. Earlier this week, national cabinet agreed to lower the mandatory isolation time for Covid-positive cases from seven days to five, which will come into effect from next Friday. While the NSW premier had been vocal in calling for the reduction, he told Sky News the isolation period should be removed entirely “as soon as possible”. “I believe we need to move away from public health orders, we need to move … to a system in which we’ll respect each other – if you’re sick you stay at home, if you’re not sick go to work,” he said.
Surprise¿
LOLOLOLOLOL
back to our serious questions then
if there is this fucked up level of consensus in that national broomcloset or whatever they call it
why the fuck are they even changing it step by step
¿
just rip the isolation scab off once and for all you dickheads
>if you’re sick you stay at home, if you’re not sick go to work
love Dom, like for example the simple genius in that above, wisdom you know, buried in that pithy obviousness there’s a secret instruction about how to avoid avoid getting sick, how to avoid avoid exposure, it’s a gem
sick people stay at home, healthy people go to work, could it be any clearer
i’m not exactly sure from that what people do that might want to avoid exposure, or repeat exposures, you know avoid long covid perhaps, or just repeat illness
maybe not sick is the same as healthy, or maybe it isn’t, who knows these days
would it be unhealthy to spread covid around, yeah that could be it, healthy people doing something unhealthy
if it is the case that healthy people have been licensed to do something unhealthy, then i’d reckon the concept of health, healthy and healthiness possibly has an inconvenient dimension
abandon the concept entirely might help things, replace it with sick, a binary, sick/not-sick, and surely sick people look sick, they appear sickly, little subjective self-evaluation of how healthy you feel required
so you’ve got a little something, the idealized seven days to recovery doesn’t seem to have happened, or you enjoyed it so much you relapsed, abandoned the stereotype symptoms and duration, went on to develop more interesting problems, you don’t appear that sick, you’re certainly not dead, and don’t appear to be dying
anyway whatever, some playful semantics
I had these two jabs yesterday: Tixagevimab and cilgavimab for COVID-19 prophylaxis.
Tamb said:
I had these two jabs yesterday: Tixagevimab and cilgavimab for COVID-19 prophylaxis.
Why do you need them, Tamb?
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:
I had these two jabs yesterday: Tixagevimab and cilgavimab for COVID-19 prophylaxis.
Why do you need them, Tamb?
Tamb said:
I had these two jabs yesterday: Tixagevimab and cilgavimab for COVID-19 prophylaxis.
Here you go PWM. I didn’t realize they were for prophylaxis, but then I haven’t really been keeping up. Tamb is in the first category because of his treatment.
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For pre-exposure prophylaxis in adults and adolescents (aged 12 years and older and weighing at least 40 kg):
• who have moderate to severe immune compromise due to a medical condition or receipt of
immunosuppressive medications or treatments that make it likely that they will not mount an adequate immune response to COVID-19 vaccination (see ATAGI guidance* regarding immunocompromise) OR
• for whom vaccination with any approved COVID-19 vaccine is not recommended due to a history of severe adverse reaction (e.g., severe allergic reaction) to a COVID-19 vaccine(s) and/or COVID-19 vaccine component(s).
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From here: https://www.cec.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/717030/Drug-Guideline-Use-of-tixagevimab-and-cilgavimab-injection-for-COVID-19.PDF
buffy said:
Tamb said:
I had these two jabs yesterday: Tixagevimab and cilgavimab for COVID-19 prophylaxis.
Here you go PWM. I didn’t realize they were for prophylaxis, but then I haven’t really been keeping up. Tamb is in the first category because of his treatment.
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For pre-exposure prophylaxis in adults and adolescents (aged 12 years and older and weighing at least 40 kg):• who have moderate to severe immune compromise due to a medical condition or receipt of
immunosuppressive medications or treatments that make it likely that they will not mount an adequate immune response to COVID-19 vaccination (see ATAGI guidance* regarding immunocompromise) OR• for whom vaccination with any approved COVID-19 vaccine is not recommended due to a history of severe adverse reaction (e.g., severe allergic reaction) to a COVID-19 vaccine(s) and/or COVID-19 vaccine component(s).
————————————————————————————————————————————From here: https://www.cec.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/717030/Drug-Guideline-Use-of-tixagevimab-and-cilgavimab-injection-for-COVID-19.PDF
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Tamb said:
I had these two jabs yesterday: Tixagevimab and cilgavimab for COVID-19 prophylaxis.
Here you go PWM. I didn’t realize they were for prophylaxis, but then I haven’t really been keeping up. Tamb is in the first category because of his treatment.
————————————————————————————————————————
For pre-exposure prophylaxis in adults and adolescents (aged 12 years and older and weighing at least 40 kg):• who have moderate to severe immune compromise due to a medical condition or receipt of
immunosuppressive medications or treatments that make it likely that they will not mount an adequate immune response to COVID-19 vaccination (see ATAGI guidance* regarding immunocompromise) OR• for whom vaccination with any approved COVID-19 vaccine is not recommended due to a history of severe adverse reaction (e.g., severe allergic reaction) to a COVID-19 vaccine(s) and/or COVID-19 vaccine component(s).
————————————————————————————————————————————From here: https://www.cec.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/717030/Drug-Guideline-Use-of-tixagevimab-and-cilgavimab-injection-for-COVID-19.PDF
Thanks buffy.
Sounds like your doctors are all over it.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:Here you go PWM. I didn’t realize they were for prophylaxis, but then I haven’t really been keeping up. Tamb is in the first category because of his treatment.
————————————————————————————————————————
For pre-exposure prophylaxis in adults and adolescents (aged 12 years and older and weighing at least 40 kg):• who have moderate to severe immune compromise due to a medical condition or receipt of
immunosuppressive medications or treatments that make it likely that they will not mount an adequate immune response to COVID-19 vaccination (see ATAGI guidance* regarding immunocompromise) OR• for whom vaccination with any approved COVID-19 vaccine is not recommended due to a history of severe adverse reaction (e.g., severe allergic reaction) to a COVID-19 vaccine(s) and/or COVID-19 vaccine component(s).
————————————————————————————————————————————From here: https://www.cec.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/717030/Drug-Guideline-Use-of-tixagevimab-and-cilgavimab-injection-for-COVID-19.PDF
Thanks buffy.Sounds like your doctors are all over it.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:Here you go PWM. I didn’t realize they were for prophylaxis, but then I haven’t really been keeping up. Tamb is in the first category because of his treatment.
————————————————————————————————————————
For pre-exposure prophylaxis in adults and adolescents (aged 12 years and older and weighing at least 40 kg):• who have moderate to severe immune compromise due to a medical condition or receipt of
immunosuppressive medications or treatments that make it likely that they will not mount an adequate immune response to COVID-19 vaccination (see ATAGI guidance* regarding immunocompromise) OR• for whom vaccination with any approved COVID-19 vaccine is not recommended due to a history of severe adverse reaction (e.g., severe allergic reaction) to a COVID-19 vaccine(s) and/or COVID-19 vaccine component(s).
————————————————————————————————————————————From here: https://www.cec.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/717030/Drug-Guideline-Use-of-tixagevimab-and-cilgavimab-injection-for-COVID-19.PDF
Thanks buffy.Sounds like your doctors are all over it.
This is a Good Thing, right?
:)
Tamb said:
They are a prophylaxis.
ah well if only the wider population had access to and used prophylactic measures, measures like highly effective airborne viral filters and cautious interactions, if only there were such things and their use could limit or even interrupt transmission of dementiavirus, such that others were safe as well in general
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:
They are a prophylaxis.
ah well if only the wider population had access to and used prophylactic measures, measures like highly effective airborne viral filters and cautious interactions, if only there were such things and their use could limit or even interrupt transmission of dementiavirus, such that others were safe as well in general
Well, I intend to continue wearing a mask away from home, along with regular hand sanitising. And keep up with vaccinations, as new ones become available.
I don’t particularly want to catch COVID.
I don’t think politicians are the ideal health decision-makers.
