Gggrrrr RogorrrrrrR

the Roses might be unhappy, but those bugs are gettin’ it on!!!!

Great photos Thee…very crisp and clear.

What sort of bug is eating the aphids????

pain master said:

the Roses might be unhappy, but those bugs are gettin’ it on!!!!

Umm where getting it on, now getting it orfs legs up and DEAD lol

Harlequin, I never killed them, move then to another party in the garden but that rose has been heavily sprays Grrrrrr

doesn’t look like anything is at the moment Lucky, those girls are going great guns!

Personally not a rose grower of note, I pay little attention to roses at all but aphids are food for birds.
I have at times mixed full cream milk powder or soapy water to get rid of aphids. Other times I’ve just wiped them off with my fingers or hosed them off with water pressure. all methods seem to work better than rogor with less risk to the health of myself or the environment.
My neighbour was both a mechanic and a rose grower.. his greasy overalls were washed in his own washing machine and all the water was then sprayed onto the roses. He didn’t have any problems with pests and diseases.

RB I have nearly 200 plants !!!

The Estate said:

RB I have nearly 200 plants !!!

That’s a lot of Rogor!

pain master said:

The Estate said:

RB I have nearly 200 plants !!!

That’s a lot of Rogor!

If you aren’t eating them then why not inject them with systemic?

I’d be wary of throwing that much Omethoate around as an airborne mist

pain master said:

The Estate said:

RB I have nearly 200 plants !!!

That’s a lot of Rogor!

I dont waste it is costs $$ and only spray the ones that need it lol, a small bottle lasts several years PM

roughbarked said:

pain master said:

The Estate said:

RB I have nearly 200 plants !!!

That’s a lot of Rogor!

If you aren’t eating them then why not inject them with systemic?

I’d be wary of throwing that much Omethoate around as an airborne mist

I spray when no breeze about, I am also wary RB but dont have the privledge i=of spare time, and it is usually just the once off thing.

Would you be better off buying some good bug ladybirds and letting them loose?

The Estate said:

roughbarked said:

pain master said:

That’s a lot of Rogor!

If you aren’t eating them then why not inject them with systemic?

I’d be wary of throwing that much Omethoate around as an airborne mist

I spray when no breeze about, I am also wary RB but dont have the privledge i=of spare time, and it is usually just the once off thing.

Hey I could lie and say I use garlic spray or milk spray but I wont lie to myself ! or to you all here , sorry if I offend ?

The Estate said:

The Estate said:

roughbarked said:

If you aren’t eating them then why not inject them with systemic?

I’d be wary of throwing that much Omethoate around as an airborne mist

I spray when no breeze about, I am also wary RB but dont have the privledge i=of spare time, and it is usually just the once off thing.

Hey I could lie and say I use garlic spray or milk spray but I wont lie to myself ! or to you all here , sorry if I offend ?

Nar not offending, not me anyway. I’m just trying to think of something that can work ridding the pests whilst you’re not there

Happy Potter said:

Would you be better off buying some good bug ladybirds and letting them loose?

well Coralee where would I find a few 1000 of those ? you for one have seen how many roses I have and the whole front yard is infected and they are now spreading to the back yard as well.

Other than that I think I am pretty much green around here.

Happy Potter said:

The Estate said:

The Estate said:

I spray when no breeze about, I am also wary RB but dont have the privledge i=of spare time, and it is usually just the once off thing.

Hey I could lie and say I use garlic spray or milk spray but I wont lie to myself ! or to you all here , sorry if I offend ?

Nar not offending, not me anyway. I’m just trying to think of something that can work ridding the pests whilst you’re not there

If there was another way I would, I hate spending the $$ and MY TIME, could be doing something else Grrrr

The Estate said:

The Estate said:

roughbarked said:

If you aren’t eating them then why not inject them with systemic?

I’d be wary of throwing that much Omethoate around as an airborne mist

I spray when no breeze about, I am also wary RB but dont have the privledge i=of spare time, and it is usually just the once off thing.

Hey I could lie and say I use garlic spray or milk spray but I wont lie to myself ! or to you all here , sorry if I offend ?

I’m not offended by your action, and I can see that you grow some beautiful blooms in your garden, so I credit you with knowing a thing or two about Roses.

Also, I too have looked after gardens that have had their fair share of Roses, including one site that had several thousand Roses, I too have resorted to using Rogor and I know the costs involved and the amounts used. I also know the health implications surrounding Rogor.

However, pest management is pest management, despite the scale of job, and time is an indicative factor. I am glad that you are not simply nuking your blooms for the sake of it and that you are taking some precautions. Your results speak for themselves and you shouldn’t get too upset because I exclaimed “That’s a lot of Rogor!”

Rogor is systemic and you can inject it under the bark. More economic and longer lasting.

Nah no way offended PM, I just hate this time of year as they always pick on my garden Waaaaa.

Hey RB how do I do that ? I am willing to try almost anything !!!

A lady over on my forum suggested this, sounds better than rogor, will give it a try :)

http://www.yates.com.au/products/pest-control/insects-concentrates/bayer-confidor-garden-insecticide-concentrate/

If there was another way I would, I hate spending the $$ and MY TIME, could be doing something else Grrrr
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just use pyrethrum for a year and nothing when nothing is wrong. you can buy ladybugs from goodbugs corp (?) the mantis, ladybirds and stick insects will come if you stop spraying.

The Estate said:

A lady over on my forum suggested this, sounds better than rogor, will give it a try :)

http://www.yates.com.au/products/pest-control/insects-concentrates/bayer-confidor-garden-insecticide-concentrate/

needs to be sprayed after the bees go home

Imidacloprid is a neonicotinoid, which is a class of neuro-active insecticides modeled after nicotine.

…may as well collect the butts off the GPO doorstep

pepe said:

If there was another way I would, I hate spending the $$ and MY TIME, could be doing something else Grrrr
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just use pyrethrum for a year and nothing when nothing is wrong. you can buy ladybugs from goodbugs corp (?) the mantis, ladybirds and stick insects will come if you stop spraying.

I only spray Pepe when they are in MASS numbers other than that I hose them or squish lol, and the odd flick as well lol

roughbarked said:

The Estate said:

A lady over on my forum suggested this, sounds better than rogor, will give it a try :)

http://www.yates.com.au/products/pest-control/insects-concentrates/bayer-confidor-garden-insecticide-concentrate/

needs to be sprayed after the bees go home

kk thanks for the tip :),

The Estate said:

Nah no way offended PM, I just hate this time of year as they always pick on my garden Waaaaa.

Hey RB how do I do that ? I am willing to try almost anything !!!

You’re spot on there Thee, this is a great time of year for Aphids and everything else that sucks the goodies out of your flowers, the weather is warming up and plants are on the move and so are the bugs. But so too should be the Good guys and the birds, and while everyone is hungry, a balance should be obtained.

Part of pest management is deciding what is a problem and what isn’t. You know its kinda like the Emergency Services, when they say they’re keeping on top of a bushfire that has burnt out a hayshed, yet they call a State of Emergency when it threatens a home. You have 200 roses and yet you said that you did not need to spray all of them, so how many did you spray? Less than 10%, around 50%? To what extent where the Aphids attacking?

The Estate said:

Nah no way offended PM, I just hate this time of year as they always pick on my garden Waaaaa.

Hey RB how do I do that ? I am willing to try almost anything !!!

See PM’s post .. one needs to be aware of what one is managing.

Injecting under the bark can be done numerous ways., even just dip a knife in the chemical and make a slice in the bark.. tape it up with budding tape. Using a syringe is another.

The birds and other insects are more important than a few blemishes on flowers so be wary and read instructions carefully. predatory insects and birds may be harmed as may also useful pollinating insects. Low pesticide usage or nil shoould be the aim rather than expecting to be able to have it pristine and insect free(which is a bit of fantasy of the macabre kind).

The Estate said:

A lady over on my forum suggested this, sounds better than rogor, will give it a try :)

http://www.yates.com.au/products/pest-control/insects-concentrates/bayer-confidor-garden-insecticide-concentrate/

When I do resort to chemical warfare, Confidor is my preferred choice over Rogor, but both will kill all.

. Low pesticide usage or nil shoould be the aim rather than expecting to be able to have it pristine and insect free(which is a bit of fantasy of the macabre kind).

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I do this annually RB !!! I dont show crap pics of crap blooms lmao, however the amount I had here yesterday was not acceptable in my ‘high’ standard of the way I ‘green garden’ :D

The Estate said:

. Low pesticide usage or nil shoould be the aim rather than expecting to be able to have it pristine and insect free(which is a bit of fantasy of the macabre kind).

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I do this annually RB !!! I dont show crap pics of crap blooms lmao, however the amount I had here yesterday was not acceptable in my ‘high’ standard of the way I ‘green garden’ :D

:)

roses are tough.. why even I can grow at least one totally neglected apart from a bit of disbudding and an annual prune.

In fact here is my one and only rose..

roughbarked said:

In fact here is my one and only rose..

OMG you make em look so pretty Grrrrrr

Wow, fantastic photos, Thee!

Looks like a thriving ecosystem on your roses :)

bon008 said:

Wow, fantastic photos, Thee!

Looks like a thriving ecosystem on your roses :)

was lol Bon was lol

Thee said:

bon008 said:

Wow, fantastic photos, Thee!

Looks like a thriving ecosystem on your roses :)

was lol Bon was lol

Hehe, that’s exactly what I thought as I climbed up the posts :) Sounds like you’re doing a great job looking after a huge number of roses!

bon008 said:

Thee said:

bon008 said:

Wow, fantastic photos, Thee!

Looks like a thriving ecosystem on your roses :)

was lol Bon was lol

Hehe, that’s exactly what I thought as I climbed up the posts :) Sounds like you’re doing a great job looking after a huge number of roses!

it is a passion so that makes it easy lol