Date: 13/08/2022 15:20:03
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1920428
Subject: Scientists Discover An Immense, Unknown Hydrocarbon Cycle Hiding in The Oceans

Scientists Discover An Immense, Unknown Hydrocarbon Cycle Hiding in The Oceans
Tessa Koumoundouros – Yesterday 5:02 pm
In the awful wake of an oil spill, it’s typically the smallest of organisms who do most of the cleaning up. Surprisingly, scientists know very little about the tools these tiny clean-up crews have at their disposal.

But in a study published last year, researchers uncovered a completely unknown cycle of natural hydrocarbon emissions and recycling facilitated by a diverse range of tiny organisms – which could help us better understand how some microbes have the power to clean up the mess an oil spill leaves in the ocean.

“Just two types of marine cyanobacteria are adding up to 500 times more hydrocarbons to the ocean per year than the sum of all other types of petroleum inputs to the ocean, including natural oil seeps, oil spills, fuel dumping and run-off from land,”

Scientists Discover An Immense, Unknown Hydrocarbon Cycle Hiding in The Oceans
said Earth scientist Connor Love from the University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB) back in February 2021. But unlike more familiar human contributions of hydrocarbons into our ocean, this isn’t a one-way, local dump.

These hydrocarbons, primarily in the form of pentadecane (nC15), are spread across 40 percent of Earth’s surface, and other microbes feast on them. They’re constantly being cycled in such a way that Love and colleagues estimate only around 2 million metric tons are present in the water at any one time.

“Every two days you produce and consume all the pentadecane in the ocean,” Love explained. (Luke Thompson, Chisholm Lab/Nikki Watson, MIT) Above: A species of the globally distributed marine cyanobacteria, Prochlorococcus. Today, humanity’s hydrocarbon footprints can be found in most aspects of our surroundings. We emit these molecules composed of only carbon and hydrogen atoms in many ways – the bulk through extraction and use of fossil fuels, but also from plastics, cooking, candles, painting, and the list goes on.
So it probably shouldn’t be a huge surprise that traces of our own emissions drowned out our ability to see the immense hydrocarbon cycle that naturally occurs in our oceans. It took Love and colleagues some effort to clearly identify this global cycle for the first time.

Far from most human sources of hydrocarbons, in the nutrient-poor North Atlantic subtropical waters, the team had to position the ship they sampled from to face the wind, so the diesel fuel that also contains pentadecane did not contaminate the seven study sites. No one was permitted to cook, smoke or paint on deck during collections.

“I don’t know if you’ve ever been on a ship for an extended period of time, but you paint every day,” explained Earth scientist David Valentine from UCSB.
“It’s like the Golden Gate Bridge: You start at one end and by the time you get to the other end it’s time to start over.”

Back on land, the researchers were able to confirm the pentadecane in their seawater samples were of biological origin, by using a gas chromatograph.

Analysing their data, they found concentrations of pentadecane increased with greater abundance of cyanobacteria cells, and the hydrocarbon’s geographic and vertical distribution were consistent with these microbes’ ecology. Cyanobacteria Prochlorococcus and Synechococcus are responsible for around a quarter of the global ocean’s conversion of sunlight energy into organic matter (primary production) and previous laboratory cultivation revealed they produce pentadecane in the process. Valentine explains the cyanobacteria likely use pentadecane as a stronger component for highly curved cellular membranes, like those found in chloroplasts (the organelle that photosynthesise).
The cycle of pentadecane in the ocean also follows the diel cycling of these cyanobacteria – their vertical migration in the water in response to changes of light intensity throughout a day. Together, these findings suggest the cyanobacteria are indeed the source of the biological pentadecane, which is then consumed by other microorganisms that produce the carbon dioxide the cyanobacteria then use to continue the cycle. Earth’s natural hydrocarbon cycle.

(David Valentine/UCSB) Love’s team identified dozens of bacteria and surface-dwelling archaea that bloomed in response to the addition of pentadecane in their samples. So they then tested to see if the hydrocarbon-consuming microbes could also break down petroleum.

The researchers added a petroleum hydrocarbon to samples increasingly closer to areas with active oil seepage, in the Gulf of Mexico. Unfortunately, only the sea samples from areas already exposed to non-biological hydrocarbons contained microbes that bloomed in response to consuming these molecules. DNA tests showed genes thought to encode proteins that can degrade these hydrocarbons differed between the microbes, with a contrast evident between those that ate biological hydrocarbons and those that devoured the petroleum-sourced ones.
“We demonstrated that there is a massive and rapid hydrocarbon cycle that occurs in the ocean, and that it is distinct from the ocean’s capacity to respond to petroleum input,” said Valentine.

The researchers have begun sequencing the genomes of the microbes in their sample to further understand the ecology and physiology of the creatures involved in Earth’s natural hydrocarbon cycle. “I think just how much we don’t know about the ecology of a lot of hydrocarbon-consuming organisms,” said Love. This research was published in Nature Microbiology. A version of this article was first published in February 2021.

Worth a thread Skipper.

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Date: 13/08/2022 15:23:02
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1920431
Subject: re: Scientists Discover An Immense, Unknown Hydrocarbon Cycle Hiding in The Oceans

I have said this before and I am saying this again. Look after the world’s oceans and seas and it will look after us.

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Date: 13/08/2022 15:25:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1920432
Subject: re: Scientists Discover An Immense, Unknown Hydrocarbon Cycle Hiding in The Oceans

monkey skipper said:


I have said this before and I am saying this again. Look after the world’s oceans and seas and it will look after us.

:) True as it is.

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Date: 13/08/2022 15:27:54
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1920437
Subject: re: Scientists Discover An Immense, Unknown Hydrocarbon Cycle Hiding in The Oceans

monkey skipper said:


I have said this before and I am saying this again. Look after the world’s oceans and seas and it will look after us.

Damn right.

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Date: 13/08/2022 16:14:12
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1920455
Subject: re: Scientists Discover An Immense, Unknown Hydrocarbon Cycle Hiding in The Oceans

monkey skipper said:


I have said this before and I am saying this again. Look after the world’s oceans and seas and it will look after us.

But this is natural – nothing to do with human interference.

And anyway, we want more carbon to make its way from the atmosphere (CO2) into the oceans. The more atmospheric CO2 that these critters can grab out of the atmosphere the better.

Also, these provide food for zooplankton, and with a bit of luck will help to populate the oceans which are, it must be said, emptier of life than the deserts.

As for unknown, this was known at least as far back as 1972.

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Date: 13/08/2022 16:33:05
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1920469
Subject: re: Scientists Discover An Immense, Unknown Hydrocarbon Cycle Hiding in The Oceans

mollwollfumble said:


monkey skipper said:

I have said this before and I am saying this again. Look after the world’s oceans and seas and it will look after us.

But this is natural – nothing to do with human interference.

And anyway, we want more carbon to make its way from the atmosphere (CO2) into the oceans. The more atmospheric CO2 that these critters can grab out of the atmosphere the better.

Also, these provide food for zooplankton, and with a bit of luck will help to populate the oceans which are, it must be said, emptier of life than the deserts.

As for unknown, this was known at least as far back as 1972.

Hell no. The oceans are getting close to their maximum saturation levels now.

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Date: 13/08/2022 17:01:52
From: monkey skipper
ID: 1920487
Subject: re: Scientists Discover An Immense, Unknown Hydrocarbon Cycle Hiding in The Oceans

Spiny Norman said:


mollwollfumble said:

monkey skipper said:

I have said this before and I am saying this again. Look after the world’s oceans and seas and it will look after us.

But this is natural – nothing to do with human interference.

And anyway, we want more carbon to make its way from the atmosphere (CO2) into the oceans. The more atmospheric CO2 that these critters can grab out of the atmosphere the better.

Also, these provide food for zooplankton, and with a bit of luck will help to populate the oceans which are, it must be said, emptier of life than the deserts.

As for unknown, this was known at least as far back as 1972.

Hell no. The oceans are getting close to their maximum saturation levels now.

We have overloaded this naturally protective system. I would say, restoring the balance would be a global priority as the ocean can seed clouds for rain (Antarctic microscopic plankton and krill are helpful critters), produce oxygen and absorb co2 and maintain a balance if we help it to do so.

I also think a private entity or nations should fund the scientist that is focussed on enzyme that help to reduce various plastics to their chemical building block by funding paid plastic farming of coastal areas where global tides cause those mass plastic dumps in the ocean.

We should be able to fully reuse what is harvested from the oceans to service our future plastic needs for the longest time until we exhaust the oceans of the plastic junk because the enzyme process returns the plastic to the building blocks , which means the product can be reformed into what is deemed necessary plastics.

The farming of algae should be considered to address over nutrient hotspots in freshwater and saltwater waterways, to slow down the need to source phosphates unsustainably and lower the damage caused by over nutrient to water quality.

Restock the ocean with depleted indigenous species, commercially fish pest fish species like carp to be turned into pet food and maybe a source of fertilizers.

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Date: 13/08/2022 22:21:06
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1920646
Subject: re: Scientists Discover An Immense, Unknown Hydrocarbon Cycle Hiding in The Oceans

Spiny Norman said:


mollwollfumble said:

monkey skipper said:

I have said this before and I am saying this again. Look after the world’s oceans and seas and it will look after us.

But this is natural – nothing to do with human interference.

And anyway, we want more carbon to make its way from the atmosphere (CO2) into the oceans. The more atmospheric CO2 that these critters can grab out of the atmosphere the better.

Also, these provide food for zooplankton, and with a bit of luck will help to populate the oceans which are, it must be said, emptier of life than the deserts.

As for unknown, this was known at least as far back as 1972.

Hell no. The oceans are getting close to their maximum saturation levels now.

Saturation with hydrocarbons – I think not.

These critters turn CO2 into hydrocarbons, remember.

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Date: 14/08/2022 01:23:59
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1920703
Subject: re: Scientists Discover An Immense, Unknown Hydrocarbon Cycle Hiding in The Oceans

mollwollfumble said:


Spiny Norman said:

mollwollfumble said:

But this is natural – nothing to do with human interference.

And anyway, we want more carbon to make its way from the atmosphere (CO2) into the oceans. The more atmospheric CO2 that these critters can grab out of the atmosphere the better.

Also, these provide food for zooplankton, and with a bit of luck will help to populate the oceans which are, it must be said, emptier of life than the deserts.

As for unknown, this was known at least as far back as 1972.

Hell no. The oceans are getting close to their maximum saturation levels now.

Saturation with hydrocarbons – I think not.

These critters turn CO2 into hydrocarbons, remember.

When plants are buried and compacted over millions of years, they become hydrocarbons. All petroleum products are hydrocarbons and it is these that are consumed by the cyanobacteria, which I think means will help clean up the oil spills and even the plastics that end up there. However co2 absorption into the oceans is reaching critical levels and turning them into a more acid solution, which is stopping the normal production of calcium shell material to the detriment of much marine life. It would appear then, this recently discovered Hydrocarbon Cycle has been performing as best it can, but is still being overcome by the excessive amounts of co2 already being absorbed.

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Date: 14/08/2022 07:03:34
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1920719
Subject: re: Scientists Discover An Immense, Unknown Hydrocarbon Cycle Hiding in The Oceans

PermeateFree said:


mollwollfumble said:

Spiny Norman said:

Hell no. The oceans are getting close to their maximum saturation levels now.

Saturation with hydrocarbons – I think not.

These critters turn CO2 into hydrocarbons, remember.

When plants are buried and compacted over millions of years, they become hydrocarbons. All petroleum products are hydrocarbons and it is these that are consumed by the cyanobacteria, which I think means will help clean up the oil spills and even the plastics that end up there. However co2 absorption into the oceans is reaching critical levels and turning them into a more acid solution, which is stopping the normal production of calcium shell material to the detriment of much marine life. It would appear then, this recently discovered Hydrocarbon Cycle has been performing as best it can, but is still being overcome by the excessive amounts of co2 already being absorbed.

^ This! ^

Moll, I was clearly talking about CO2, not hydrocarbons.

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Date: 14/08/2022 08:58:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1920733
Subject: re: Scientists Discover An Immense, Unknown Hydrocarbon Cycle Hiding in The Oceans

PermeateFree said:


mollwollfumble said:

Spiny Norman said:

Hell no. The oceans are getting close to their maximum saturation levels now.

Saturation with hydrocarbons – I think not.

These critters turn CO2 into hydrocarbons, remember.

When plants are buried and compacted over millions of years, they become hydrocarbons. All petroleum products are hydrocarbons and it is these that are consumed by the cyanobacteria, which I think means will help clean up the oil spills and even the plastics that end up there. However co2 absorption into the oceans is reaching critical levels and turning them into a more acid solution, which is stopping the normal production of calcium shell material to the detriment of much marine life. It would appear then, this recently discovered Hydrocarbon Cycle has been performing as best it can, but is still being overcome by the excessive amounts of co2 already being absorbed.

This.

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