We were talking about this idea on the forum a few years back

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33423625/

Economic behaviours among non-human primates

Do we have any valid reasons to affirm that non-human primates display economic behaviour in a sufficiently rich and precise sense of the phrase? To address this question, we have to develop a set of criteria to assess the vast array of experimental studies and field observations on individual cognitive and behavioural competences as well as the collective organization of non-human primates. We review a sample of these studies and assess how they answer to the following four main challenges. (i) Do we see any economic organization or institutions emerge among groups of non-human primates? (ii) Are the cognitive abilities, and often biases, that have been evidenced as underlying typical economic decision-making among humans, also present among non-human primates? (iii) Can we draw positive lessons from performance comparisons among primate species, humans and non-humans but also across non-human primate species, as elicited by canonical game-theoretical experimental paradigms, especially as far as economic cooperation and coordination are concerned? And (iv) in which way should we improve models and paradigms to obtain more ecological data and conclusions? Articles discussed in this paper most often bring about positive answers and promising perspectives to support the existence and prevalence of economic behaviours among non-human primates. This article is part of the theme issue ‘Existence and prevalence of economic behaviours among non-human primates’.

just reading some the pages with links underneath

“….propensity to cooperate or compete…”

I wonder if there is something that is neither of them really, and if there were what damage might be done by trying to explain it all with either or both them, what might be missed

transition said:

just reading some the pages with links underneath

“….propensity to cooperate or compete…”

I wonder if there is something that is neither of them really, and if there were what damage might be done by trying to explain it all with either or both them, what might be missed

i’ll put it as a simple starter proposition

is the happy operating space of a human mostly that of cooperation or competition, does it have a constancy of either or both those things, an imposing constancy

and i’d ask the same about other primates, and many other living creatures, within species and across species types

dv said:

We were talking about this idea on the forum a few years back

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33423625/

Economic behaviours among non-human primates

Do we have any valid reasons to affirm that non-human primates display economic behaviour in a sufficiently rich and precise sense of the phrase? To address this question, we have to develop a set of criteria to assess the vast array of experimental studies and field observations on individual cognitive and behavioural competences as well as the collective organization of non-human primates. We review a sample of these studies and assess how they answer to the following four main challenges. (i) Do we see any economic organization or institutions emerge among groups of non-human primates? (ii) Are the cognitive abilities, and often biases, that have been evidenced as underlying typical economic decision-making among humans, also present among non-human primates? (iii) Can we draw positive lessons from performance comparisons among primate species, humans and non-humans but also across non-human primate species, as elicited by canonical game-theoretical experimental paradigms, especially as far as economic cooperation and coordination are concerned? And (iv) in which way should we improve models and paradigms to obtain more ecological data and conclusions? Articles discussed in this paper most often bring about positive answers and promising perspectives to support the existence and prevalence of economic behaviours among non-human primates. This article is part of the theme issue ‘Existence and prevalence of economic behaviours among non-human primates’.

Chips, especially the more highly ranked will carry off quantities of food to consume by themselves, which is not too dissimilar to what many humans do. However, they will sometimes share with a close associate.

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

We were talking about this idea on the forum a few years back

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33423625/

Economic behaviours among non-human primates

Do we have any valid reasons to affirm that non-human primates display economic behaviour in a sufficiently rich and precise sense of the phrase? To address this question, we have to develop a set of criteria to assess the vast array of experimental studies and field observations on individual cognitive and behavioural competences as well as the collective organization of non-human primates. We review a sample of these studies and assess how they answer to the following four main challenges. (i) Do we see any economic organization or institutions emerge among groups of non-human primates? (ii) Are the cognitive abilities, and often biases, that have been evidenced as underlying typical economic decision-making among humans, also present among non-human primates? (iii) Can we draw positive lessons from performance comparisons among primate species, humans and non-humans but also across non-human primate species, as elicited by canonical game-theoretical experimental paradigms, especially as far as economic cooperation and coordination are concerned? And (iv) in which way should we improve models and paradigms to obtain more ecological data and conclusions? Articles discussed in this paper most often bring about positive answers and promising perspectives to support the existence and prevalence of economic behaviours among non-human primates. This article is part of the theme issue ‘Existence and prevalence of economic behaviours among non-human primates’.

Chips, especially the more highly ranked will carry off quantities of food to consume by themselves, which is not too dissimilar to what many humans do. However, they will sometimes share with a close associate.

Make that Chimps,

> Do we see any economic organization or institutions emerge among groups of non-human primates? (ii) Are …

It’s easier than that.

Look for trade between one individual and another.

In particular, look for bribery and protection rackets. :-)

dv said:

We were talking about this idea on the forum a few years back

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33423625/

Economic behaviours among non-human primates

Do we have any valid reasons to affirm that non-human primates display economic behaviour in a sufficiently rich and precise sense of the phrase? To address this question, we have to develop a set of criteria to assess the vast array of experimental studies and field observations on individual cognitive and behavioural competences as well as the collective organization of non-human primates. We review a sample of these studies and assess how they answer to the following four main challenges. (i) Do we see any economic organization or institutions emerge among groups of non-human primates? (ii) Are the cognitive abilities, and often biases, that have been evidenced as underlying typical economic decision-making among humans, also present among non-human primates? (iii) Can we draw positive lessons from performance comparisons among primate species, humans and non-humans but also across non-human primate species, as elicited by canonical game-theoretical experimental paradigms, especially as far as economic cooperation and coordination are concerned? And (iv) in which way should we improve models and paradigms to obtain more ecological data and conclusions? Articles discussed in this paper most often bring about positive answers and promising perspectives to support the existence and prevalence of economic behaviours among non-human primates. This article is part of the theme issue ‘Existence and prevalence of economic behaviours among non-human primates’.

Balancing costs and benefits in primates
ecological and palaeoanthropological views

Reciprocity and Social Expectations:
I’d seen studies years ago that showed how a simple society could be was formed
using simple exchanges such as “You Scratch My Back, I’ll Scratch Yours”.
A system of reciprocity becoming the bases of tribal societies based upon trust which extended to benefits such as babysitting which allowed a fellow member of ones close
knit group to rest or forage further afield for choice goods to share.