Date: 24/08/2022 14:08:22
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1924614
Subject: Red light is good for you eyes

One thing that almost everyone experiences as they age is a decline in their vision, although a new study in the Journals of Gerontology reveals that this problem may have a surprisingly simple and affordable solution. By staring at a deep red light for just 3 minutes a day, older participants were able to significantly improve their vision.

The human retina contains two kinds of photoreceptor cells, known as rods and cones because of their respective shapes. Rods are found around the boundary of the retina and provide us with peripheral vision while also helping us see in low light conditions, while cones give us color vision.

Both types of cell have high energy demands, and receive this energy in the form of a compound called adenosine triphosphate (ATP), which is produced by their mitochondria. However, from the age of about 40 onwards, our mitochondria begin to function less efficiently, meaning less energy is available for our rods and cones and our vision subsequently starts to deteriorate.

Long-wavelength light spanning 650 to 1,000 nanometers – which has a deep red color – has previously been found to improve mitochondrial performance, which is why the study authors decided to investigate whether this could be used to restore vision in older people.

www.iflscience.com/looking-deep-red-light-just-few-minutes-day-help-restore-damaged-eyesight-56560

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Date: 24/08/2022 14:09:30
From: dv
ID: 1924615
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

interesting

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Date: 24/08/2022 14:15:53
From: Cymek
ID: 1924617
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

Spiny Norman said:


One thing that almost everyone experiences as they age is a decline in their vision, although a new study in the Journals of Gerontology reveals that this problem may have a surprisingly simple and affordable solution. By staring at a deep red light for just 3 minutes a day, older participants were able to significantly improve their vision.

The human retina contains two kinds of photoreceptor cells, known as rods and cones because of their respective shapes. Rods are found around the boundary of the retina and provide us with peripheral vision while also helping us see in low light conditions, while cones give us color vision.

Both types of cell have high energy demands, and receive this energy in the form of a compound called adenosine triphosphate (ATP), which is produced by their mitochondria. However, from the age of about 40 onwards, our mitochondria begin to function less efficiently, meaning less energy is available for our rods and cones and our vision subsequently starts to deteriorate.

Long-wavelength light spanning 650 to 1,000 nanometers – which has a deep red color – has previously been found to improve mitochondrial performance, which is why the study authors decided to investigate whether this could be used to restore vision in older people.

www.iflscience.com/looking-deep-red-light-just-few-minutes-day-help-restore-damaged-eyesight-56560

Seems a device is required wonder how red it needs to be could you generate a sufficient red on a decent monitor

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Date: 24/08/2022 14:16:20
From: Woodie
ID: 1924618
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

Spiny Norman said:

By staring at a deep red light for just 3 minutes a day, older participants were able to significantly improve their vision.

Kewlies. You can do this while waiting at the traffic lights.😁

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Date: 24/08/2022 14:27:46
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1924625
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

yeah they’ve been doing far red light healing studies for ages, agree interesting

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Date: 24/08/2022 14:34:08
From: sibeen
ID: 1924637
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

Hmm, doesn’t look like I’ll be throwing my glasses away after all.

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Date: 24/08/2022 14:39:33
From: buffy
ID: 1924641
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

SCIENCE said:


yeah they’ve been doing far red light healing studies for ages, agree interesting

I had to drag up the words. Check “chromotherapy” and “syntonics”.

This recent stuff is a bit different, but I’m still skeptical.

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Date: 24/08/2022 19:50:36
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1924730
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

I’ve been trying to buy prescription rose coloured glasses for ages.

I had the option to buy some once when I was a teenager and turned them down, and have regretted not buying them ever since.

For a red-green colour blind person, the world appears much bluer than for normal vision. That isn’t an advantage. Rose coloured glasses would definitely help.

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Date: 24/08/2022 20:10:32
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1924732
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

mollwollfumble said:


I’ve been trying to buy prescription rose coloured glasses for ages.

I had the option to buy some once when I was a teenager and turned them down, and have regretted not buying them ever since.

For a red-green colour blind person, the world appears much bluer than for normal vision. That isn’t an advantage. Rose coloured glasses would definitely help.


https://eye-power.co.uk/

Led light 670nm

I bought some out of curiosity

After 3 minutes you look around and everything looks blue

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Date: 24/08/2022 21:14:13
From: buffy
ID: 1924743
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

wookiemeister said:


mollwollfumble said:

I’ve been trying to buy prescription rose coloured glasses for ages.

I had the option to buy some once when I was a teenager and turned them down, and have regretted not buying them ever since.

For a red-green colour blind person, the world appears much bluer than for normal vision. That isn’t an advantage. Rose coloured glasses would definitely help.


https://eye-power.co.uk/

Led light 670nm

I bought some out of curiosity

After 3 minutes you look around and everything looks blue

Cone saturation.

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Date: 27/08/2022 03:17:10
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1925433
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

buffy said:


wookiemeister said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’ve been trying to buy prescription rose coloured glasses for ages.

I had the option to buy some once when I was a teenager and turned them down, and have regretted not buying them ever since.

For a red-green colour blind person, the world appears much bluer than for normal vision. That isn’t an advantage. Rose coloured glasses would definitely help.


https://eye-power.co.uk/

Led light 670nm

I bought some out of curiosity

After 3 minutes you look around and everything looks blue

Cone saturation.

I’ve had my computer screen set to low-blue for about a decade now.

Apparently, rose-coloured glasses are available on the web. I’ll look into it next time I need a new pair.

https://www.framesbuy.com.au/page/rose-colored-glasses

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Date: 27/08/2022 07:58:53
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1925444
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

mollwollfumble said:


I’ve been trying to buy prescription rose coloured glasses for ages.

I had the option to buy some once when I was a teenager and turned them down, and have regretted not buying them ever since.

For a red-green colour blind person, the world appears much bluer than for normal vision. That isn’t an advantage. Rose coloured glasses would definitely help.

How do you know?

How can anyone know how the world appears to someone else?

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Date: 27/08/2022 07:58:53
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1925445
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

mollwollfumble said:


I’ve been trying to buy prescription rose coloured glasses for ages.

I had the option to buy some once when I was a teenager and turned them down, and have regretted not buying them ever since.

For a red-green colour blind person, the world appears much bluer than for normal vision. That isn’t an advantage. Rose coloured glasses would definitely help.

How do you know?

How can anyone know how the world appears to someone else?

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Date: 27/08/2022 08:05:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1925446
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

I’ve been trying to buy prescription rose coloured glasses for ages.

I had the option to buy some once when I was a teenager and turned them down, and have regretted not buying them ever since.

For a red-green colour blind person, the world appears much bluer than for normal vision. That isn’t an advantage. Rose coloured glasses would definitely help.

How do you know?

How can anyone know how the world appears to someone else?

You could ask me but would you know if I was telling the truth?

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Date: 27/08/2022 08:11:50
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1925447
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

roughbarked said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’ve been trying to buy prescription rose coloured glasses for ages.

I had the option to buy some once when I was a teenager and turned them down, and have regretted not buying them ever since.

For a red-green colour blind person, the world appears much bluer than for normal vision. That isn’t an advantage. Rose coloured glasses would definitely help.

How do you know?

How can anyone know how the world appears to someone else?

You could ask me but would you know if I was telling the truth?

Even if I assume you are telling the truth, your description of your experience is based on your experience, so it may be quite misleading from my experience.

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Date: 27/08/2022 11:10:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1925473
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

The Rev Dodgson said:


roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

How do you know?

How can anyone know how the world appears to someone else?

You could ask me but would you know if I was telling the truth?

Even if I assume you are telling the truth, your description of your experience is based on your experience, so it may be quite misleading from my experience.

and yet the apparent universe carries on as if there were a shared independent reality even for every one of us imagined brains in vats which are merely imagined by us SCIENCE a specific small set of vat neurons

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Date: 27/08/2022 11:37:03
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1925477
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

You could ask me but would you know if I was telling the truth?

Even if I assume you are telling the truth, your description of your experience is based on your experience, so it may be quite misleading from my experience.

and yet the apparent universe carries on as if there were a shared independent reality even for every one of us imagined brains in vats which are merely imagined by us SCIENCE a specific small set of vat neurons

But that doesn’t mean that the way any individual experiences that independent reality is the same as anybody else’s.

There is no reason (that I know of) to suppose that our experience of the colour red (for instance) is different, but if it is, I don’t know how that could be determined.

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Date: 27/08/2022 11:50:26
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1925481
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Even if I assume you are telling the truth, your description of your experience is based on your experience, so it may be quite misleading from my experience.

and yet the apparent universe carries on as if there were a shared independent reality even for every one of us imagined brains in vats which are merely imagined by us SCIENCE a specific small set of vat neurons

But that doesn’t mean that the way any individual experiences that independent reality is the same as anybody else’s.

There is no reason (that I know of) to suppose that our experience of the colour red (for instance) is different, but if it is, I don’t know how that could be determined.

but to the contrary, it is demonstrably identical

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Date: 27/08/2022 11:51:12
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1925482
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

and yet the apparent universe carries on as if there were a shared independent reality even for every one of us imagined brains in vats which are merely imagined by us SCIENCE a specific small set of vat neurons

But that doesn’t mean that the way any individual experiences that independent reality is the same as anybody else’s.

There is no reason (that I know of) to suppose that our experience of the colour red (for instance) is different, but if it is, I don’t know how that could be determined.

but to the contrary, it is demonstrably identical

Please proceed with your demonstration.

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Date: 27/08/2022 11:56:00
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1925486
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

But that doesn’t mean that the way any individual experiences that independent reality is the same as anybody else’s.

There is no reason (that I know of) to suppose that our experience of the colour red (for instance) is different, but if it is, I don’t know how that could be determined.

but to the contrary, it is demonstrably identical

Please proceed with your demonstration.

our experience of “the colour red” in English is completely different to the Russian experience of “the colour red” and yet it is indistinguishable from their experience of “красный цвет” in Russian somehow

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Date: 27/08/2022 12:02:41
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1925491
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

but to the contrary, it is demonstrably identical

Please proceed with your demonstration.

our experience of “the colour red” in English is completely different to the Russian experience of “the colour red” and yet it is indistinguishable from their experience of “красный цвет” in Russian somehow

Was that it?

If so, I’m not convinced.

And I don’t think language has anything to do with it.

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Date: 27/08/2022 12:05:07
From: transition
ID: 1925493
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

I’ve been trying to buy prescription rose coloured glasses for ages.

I had the option to buy some once when I was a teenager and turned them down, and have regretted not buying them ever since.

For a red-green colour blind person, the world appears much bluer than for normal vision. That isn’t an advantage. Rose coloured glasses would definitely help.

How do you know?

How can anyone know how the world appears to someone else?

essentially people get acquainted with their processing, representational conversion products of the wetware, that’s the primary thing people experience, people experience what their brain does

across the species great commonality might be assumed, and much of it where difference exists is converged by assuming sameness, which is a mixed bag in itself, the assumptions have products from, variously there are forces inclining sameness, some constraining, and some working against

of the extent a person might experience what other minds experience, nobody can too exactly, which is not a bad thing at all, the differences in some ways is like the physical spaces between things, and not entirely unrelated

consider a world of increasing interconnectedness, what might be lost, as the spaces are closed, as the assumptions of sameness become more and nearer, and everywhere

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Date: 27/08/2022 12:06:36
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1925494
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Please proceed with your demonstration.

our experience of “the colour red” in English is completely different to the Russian experience of “the colour red” and yet it is indistinguishable from their experience of “красный цвет” in Russian somehow

Was that it?

If so, I’m not convinced.

And I don’t think language has anything to do with it.

That’s an example of it, yes.

But you’re right: language has nothing, and yet has everything, to do with it.

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Date: 27/08/2022 12:07:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1925495
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

our experience of “the colour red” in English is completely different to the Russian experience of “the colour red” and yet it is indistinguishable from their experience of “красный цвет” in Russian somehow

Was that it?

If so, I’m not convinced.

And I don’t think language has anything to do with it.

That’s an example of it, yes.

But you’re right: language has nothing, and yet has everything, to do with it.

In what way does language have everything to do with it?

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Date: 27/08/2022 12:09:34
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1925496
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

transition said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’ve been trying to buy prescription rose coloured glasses for ages.

I had the option to buy some once when I was a teenager and turned them down, and have regretted not buying them ever since.

For a red-green colour blind person, the world appears much bluer than for normal vision. That isn’t an advantage. Rose coloured glasses would definitely help.

How do you know?

How can anyone know how the world appears to someone else?

processing

representational conversion interconnectedness

Yes.

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Date: 27/08/2022 12:10:50
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1925497
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Was that it?

If so, I’m not convinced.

And I don’t think language has anything to do with it.

That’s an example of it, yes.

But you’re right: language has nothing, and yet has everything, to do with it.

In what way does language have everything to do with it?

in the same way that a graph may be represented by vertices and the edges between them, and yet it is merely the edges that are the graph

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Date: 27/08/2022 12:11:07
From: furious
ID: 1925498
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Was that it?

If so, I’m not convinced.

And I don’t think language has anything to do with it.

That’s an example of it, yes.

But you’re right: language has nothing, and yet has everything, to do with it.

In what way does language have everything to do with it?

Newspeak…

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Date: 27/08/2022 12:13:19
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1925501
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

That’s an example of it, yes.

But you’re right: language has nothing, and yet has everything, to do with it.

In what way does language have everything to do with it?

in the same way that a graph may be represented by vertices and the edges between them, and yet it is merely the edges that are the graph

So language has nothing to do with the matter under discussion then?

I agree.

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Date: 27/08/2022 12:14:40
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1925502
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

In what way does language have everything to do with it?

in the same way that a graph may be represented by vertices and the edges between them, and yet it is merely the edges that are the graph

So language has nothing to do with the matter under discussion then?

I agree.

in the way that it has nothing to do with the discussion, it has everything to do with the discussion

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Date: 27/08/2022 12:20:07
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1925506
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

SCIENCE said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

in the same way that a graph may be represented by vertices and the edges between them, and yet it is merely the edges that are the graph

So language has nothing to do with the matter under discussion then?

I agree.

in the way that it has nothing to do with the discussion, it has everything to do with the discussion

I regret to inform you that I still have no-eye deer what you are on about.

But I’d better go and do other things.

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Date: 27/08/2022 12:28:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1925513
Subject: re: Red light is good for you eyes

The Rev Dodgson said:


SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So language has nothing to do with the matter under discussion then?

I agree.

in the way that it has nothing to do with the discussion, it has everything to do with the discussion

I regret to inform you that I still have no-eye deer what you are on about.

But I’d better go and do other things.

oh just that despite light having nothing to do with dark, it has everything to do with dark

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