Date: 31/08/2022 14:42:56
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1926834
Subject: Greenland ice melt has already locked in 10 inches of sea level rise


Ice melt in Greenland is a major contributor to sea level rise

As scientists sharpen their observational tools and more data comes to light, our view of the changes gripping our planet is only becoming clearer, and it’s not a pretty sight. A striking new example of this has come from glaciologists studying the seasonal growth and loss of the Greenland Ice Sheet, who have concluded that even if we completely stopped burning fossil fuels today, it would shed enough mass on its own to cause global sea levels to rise by almost a foot, at a minimum.

Just as the Greenland Ice Sheet experiences melting in warmer weather, the colder months cause snow resting on top to turn into ice. In a stable climate, this process would play out in equilibrium, with the mass lost over summer regained during the winter. But with the planet growing hotter due to climate change, things are becoming increasing off balance.

To understand how this melting ice will impact sea levels around the world, scientists use computer models of ice flow and complex climate interactions. According to the authors of this new study, this approach has shortcomings in that they are imprecise and don’t account for a number of factors scientists are observing in the field. These include more rain that is accelerating the melting of surface ice, an influx of tropical ocean currents into Greenland’s fjords, and the darkening of the sheet surface that causes it to absorb more heat.

“We’re observing many emerging processes that the models don’t account for that increase the ice sheet’s vulnerability,” study author Alun Hubbard, Professor of Glaciology at University of Tromsø, writes in an accompanying piece for The Conversation.


Study author Jason Box in the field in Greenland

Hubbard and his colleagues have taken a different approach, and one that sidesteps computer models completely. The study is built on two decades of measurements from weather stations, satellite data on bare ice and surface mass, and a glaciological analysis technique known as volume-area power law scaling.

The team made assessments on the changing climate in the Arctic between 2000 and 2019, and how this is contributing to the imbalance in the ice sheet’s losses and gains each year. They did this by focusing on the shifting snow line, the boundary between the areas of the Greenland Ice Sheet that are subjected to melting in the summer and those that are not. A particularly warm summer might drive this snow line to higher elevations, exposing more ice to melting conditions, while a colder winter might bring it back down again.


Diagram depicts this shifting snow line in GreenlandThe Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland, GEUS

The scientists found that Greenland’s ice sheet is now in such a state of disequilibrium, and has become so out of tune with the Arctic climate, that it won’t be able to sustain its mass. For the physics to add up, the sheet is now destined to correct itself by shedding a further 3.3 percent of its volume. That’s even if the world stopped burning fossil fuels today. This equates to 110 quadrillion tonnes of ice, enough to drive up average global sea levels by at least 27 cm (10 in).

“It is a very conservative rock-bottom minimum. Realistically, we will see this figure more than double within this century,” said lead author Jason Box, from the National Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland. “In the foreseeable scenario that global warming will only continue, the contribution of the Greenland Ice Sheet to sea level rise will only continue increasing. When we take the extreme melt year 2012 and take it as a hypothetical average constant climate later this century, the committed mass loss from the Greenland Ice Sheet more than doubles to 78 cm (30 in).”

According to the US National Ocean and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), global sea levels have risen by 8-9 inches (21-24 cm) since 1880, and the rate of level rise is only accelerating. The idea that Greenland alone is already expected to contribute more than this, likely by the end of the century according to the study authors, is an ominous sign.

Rising sea levels are expected to bring a host of new dangers to coastal communities around the world. These include shoreline erosion, risks to wildlife and damage to infrastructure, from bridges to beachfront apartments. Higher background water levels would mean that destructive storm surges make their way further inland, while flooding would become far more frequent. According to NOAA, high-tide flooding along much of the US coastline is already 300-900% more frequent than it was just 50 years ago.

As we saw in another study this month highlighting the accelerated warming taking place in the Arctic, modern satellite data continues to shed important new light on the effects of climate change. In this case, the study authors see their new approach as a valuable way of filling in important blanks created by imperfect modeling.

“The ice flow models are not ready in this area,” said Box. “This is a complimentary way of calculating mass loss that has been lacking.”

The research was published in the journal Nature Climate Change.

https://newatlas.com/environment/greenland-ice-melt-sea-level-rise/

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Date: 31/08/2022 15:31:57
From: Cymek
ID: 1926837
Subject: re: Greenland ice melt has already locked in 10 inches of sea level rise

Would ocean level rises be roughly equal everywhere.
As in high and low tide are 10 inches higher and any land that is lower than that becomes underwater

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Date: 31/08/2022 15:51:21
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1926838
Subject: re: Greenland ice melt has already locked in 10 inches of sea level rise

Cymek said:


Would ocean level rises be roughly equal everywhere.
As in high and low tide are 10 inches higher and any land that is lower than that becomes underwater

Sea levels are usually higher around the equator. However the 10” figure was for Greenland only and the potential overall figure would likely be closer to a metre. So going to be much wetter in most places by the turn of the century.

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Date: 31/08/2022 15:52:19
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1926839
Subject: re: Greenland ice melt has already locked in 10 inches of sea level rise

Cymek said:


Would ocean level rises be roughly equal everywhere.

I imagine it’d take months at least for places furthest from Greenland to notice any effects. The propagation of the increased water level would be relatively slow I guess.

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Date: 31/08/2022 15:58:32
From: transition
ID: 1926843
Subject: re: Greenland ice melt has already locked in 10 inches of sea level rise

more cheer

lock in a few tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of years of wild weather

humans, the clever species

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Date: 31/08/2022 16:08:31
From: transition
ID: 1926846
Subject: re: Greenland ice melt has already locked in 10 inches of sea level rise

transition said:


more cheer

lock in a few tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of years of wild weather

humans, the clever species

you know, if humans are doing something that results in a rapid polar ice melt, take it to be a sign something is really badly wrong

the ice is not just pretty, it has a system function, critical i’d reckon

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Date: 31/08/2022 16:14:18
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1926849
Subject: re: Greenland ice melt has already locked in 10 inches of sea level rise

transition said:


more cheer

lock in a few tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of years of wild weather

humans, the clever species

We have done all this within the last 100 years, imagine what we can do in the next 100. We are indeed the clever species and have the earthly honor of being the only one that has achieved such heights since the beginnings of time. We are the chosen ones.

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Date: 31/08/2022 16:16:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1926850
Subject: re: Greenland ice melt has already locked in 10 inches of sea level rise

PermeateFree said:


transition said:

more cheer

lock in a few tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of years of wild weather

humans, the clever species

We have done all this within the last 100 years, imagine what we can do in the next 100. We are indeed the clever species and have the earthly honor of being the only one that has achieved such heights since the beginnings of time. We are the chosen ones.

It is our fate. We are writing the movie.

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Date: 31/08/2022 16:26:16
From: Cymek
ID: 1926853
Subject: re: Greenland ice melt has already locked in 10 inches of sea level rise

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

transition said:

more cheer

lock in a few tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of years of wild weather

humans, the clever species

We have done all this within the last 100 years, imagine what we can do in the next 100. We are indeed the clever species and have the earthly honor of being the only one that has achieved such heights since the beginnings of time. We are the chosen ones.

It is our fate. We are writing the movie.

It does make you wonder how much slower would we have progressed if most actions took into account the effect on all other life and it was minimised.
In many cases it seems no one cared and likely had a good idea of the damage done

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Date: 31/08/2022 16:28:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1926857
Subject: re: Greenland ice melt has already locked in 10 inches of sea level rise

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

We have done all this within the last 100 years, imagine what we can do in the next 100. We are indeed the clever species and have the earthly honor of being the only one that has achieved such heights since the beginnings of time. We are the chosen ones.

It is our fate. We are writing the movie.

It does make you wonder how much slower would we have progressed if most actions took into account the effect on all other life and it was minimised.
In many cases it seems no one cared and likely had a good idea of the damage done

I’m reasonably certain that it was known that lead was a poison before they put it in petrol.

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Date: 31/08/2022 16:33:36
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1926863
Subject: re: Greenland ice melt has already locked in 10 inches of sea level rise

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

We have done all this within the last 100 years, imagine what we can do in the next 100. We are indeed the clever species and have the earthly honor of being the only one that has achieved such heights since the beginnings of time. We are the chosen ones.

It is our fate. We are writing the movie.

It does make you wonder how much slower would we have progressed if most actions took into account the effect on all other life and it was minimised.
In many cases it seems no one cared and likely had a good idea of the damage done

It is all about greed and self-interest.

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Date: 31/08/2022 17:07:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1926880
Subject: re: Greenland ice melt has already locked in 10 inches of sea level rise

Cymek said:

It does make you wonder how much slower would we have progressed if most actions took into account the effect on all other life and it was minimised.
In many cases it seems no one cared and likely had a good idea of the damage done

or if the priority was actually maximal progress versus maximal profit exempli gratia hitting up the moon versus fucken pillaging French Indochina in the name of free markets all right not the best example but you get the drift

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Date: 31/08/2022 17:09:13
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1926881
Subject: re: Greenland ice melt has already locked in 10 inches of sea level rise

roughbarked said:

I’m reasonably certain that it was known that lead was a poison before they put it in petrol.

right but did The Economy Must Grow better for it at all

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