Discuss.

Not a great start.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/01/referendum-on-indigenous-voice-to-parliament-a-complete-waste-of-money-lidia-thorpe-says

damn remember when every homosexual bisexuality pansexual wtfsexual knew that {a public vote on whether same sex marriage should be recognised} was a complete waste of time and money, hell the fallout for MT was full on

see yous were all shitting on countries that take people in detention and give them education instead but turns out

it would have been a better idea all along

gotta love how the title fails to cover the most significant matter as even mentioned in the subtitle, instead making it sound like it’s just woke snowflake ethnics and noncismales complaining

SCIENCE said:

gotta love how the title fails to cover the most significant matter as even mentioned in the subtitle, instead making it sound like it’s just woke snowflake ethnics and noncismales complaining

Sounds like the beginnings of a far right group.

SCIENCE said:

gotta love how the title fails to cover the most significant matter as even mentioned in the subtitle, instead making it sound like it’s just woke snowflake ethnics and noncismales complaining

Knox is one of those institutions that’s renowned for producing Australia’s future leaders.

Explains a lot, doesn’t it?

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

gotta love how the title fails to cover the most significant matter as even mentioned in the subtitle, instead making it sound like it’s just woke snowflake ethnics and noncismales complaining

Knox is one of those institutions that’s renowned for producing Australia’s future leaders.

Explains a lot, doesn’t it?

Secret
Misogynistic
Homophobic
Racist
Child abuse

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

gotta love how the title fails to cover the most significant matter as even mentioned in the subtitle, instead making it sound like it’s just woke snowflake ethnics and noncismales complaining

Sounds like the beginnings of a far right group.

Knox is one of those institutions that’s renowned for producing Australia’s future leaders.

Explains a lot, doesn’t it?

Secret
Misogynistic
Homophobic
Racist
Child abuse

totally remember all the lizard people running the international paedophile ring, and how actually projecting and accusing others of the very thing that oneself is guilty of is one of the oldest tricks in the book

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

Knox is one of those institutions that’s renowned for producing Australia’s future leaders.

Explains a lot, doesn’t it?

Secret
Misogynistic
Homophobic
Racist
Child abuse

totally remember all the lizard people running the international paedophile ring, and how actually projecting and accusing others of the very thing that oneself is guilty of is one of the oldest tricks in the book

Yeah lots of those evangelistic preachers did/do it

SCIENCE said:

gotta love how the title fails to cover the most significant matter as even mentioned in the subtitle, instead making it sound like it’s just woke snowflake ethnics and noncismales complaining

again again.

sarahs mum said:

again

guess who’s deeper in the fossil fuels cesspit than Marketing and yet won the election

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/sep/02/jobs-and-skills-summit-2022-labor-rules-out-mining-tax-despite-economist-ross-garnaut-energy-prices-warning

Increased spending on healthcare and defence could be met through a greater grab from the resource sector, without the need to raise income taxes, economist Ross Garnaut has told the Jobs and Skills Summit. Garnaut’s comments, made to delegates over dinner on Thursday night, were followed on Friday by the Albanese government hinting that it may expand paid parental leave even as it ruled out tapping extra revenue from the booming mining sector.

guess we know whether there will be increased spending on healthcare and defence then

ah well at least letting education fall even further behind was already guaranteed so nobody will be smart enough to even question wait we hear a knock on the door

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

again

guess who’s deeper in the fossil fuels cesspit than Marketing and yet won the election

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/sep/02/jobs-and-skills-summit-2022-labor-rules-out-mining-tax-despite-economist-ross-garnaut-energy-prices-warning

Increased spending on healthcare and defence could be met through a greater grab from the resource sector, without the need to raise income taxes, economist Ross Garnaut has told the Jobs and Skills Summit. Garnaut’s comments, made to delegates over dinner on Thursday night, were followed on Friday by the Albanese government hinting that it may expand paid parental leave even as it ruled out tapping extra revenue from the booming mining sector.

guess we know whether there will be increased spending on healthcare and defence then

ah well at least letting education fall even further behind was already guaranteed so nobody will be smart enough to even question wait we hear a knock on the door

EnergyAustralia is an electricity generation, electricity and gas retailing private company in Australia, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Hong Kong-based and listed China Light and Power.Wikipedia

We spend billions to build submarines to fight the chinese yet strangely let them take profits from major companies sold into private hands

You’ve been lied to – be don’t need more taxes

Energy Australia: four years, $30 billion, zero tax
The 2017 financial statements for EnergyAustralia Holdings Limited shows revenue of $7.6 billion, rising sharply from $6.3 billion the year before. Expenses, conveniently jumped in equal measure from $5.8 billion to $7 billion. Profit was $459 million and the cash-flow statement shows tax paid of $23.4 million, up from zero previously.

ah well at least there is this small redemption

The federal government has put the Fair Work Commission on notice that it plans to restrict the power of employers to terminate enterprise agreements, something the state Coalition in New South Wales this week threatened to do in its ongoing dispute with rail workers. After months of bargaining and Sydney train strikes, the NSW government announced on Thursday it would seek to terminate its existing agreement covering thousands of rail workers in the state if the Rail, Tram and Bus Union (RTBU) failed to cease industrial action.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/02/sydney-train-strike-industrial-action-friday-deadline-rail-strikes-rtbu-union-nsw-premier-dominic-perrottet

wookiemeister said:

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

again

guess who’s deeper in the fossil fuels cesspit than Marketing and yet won the election

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/sep/02/jobs-and-skills-summit-2022-labor-rules-out-mining-tax-despite-economist-ross-garnaut-energy-prices-warning

Increased spending on healthcare and defence could be met through a greater grab from the resource sector, without the need to raise income taxes, economist Ross Garnaut has told the Jobs and Skills Summit. Garnaut’s comments, made to delegates over dinner on Thursday night, were followed on Friday by the Albanese government hinting that it may expand paid parental leave even as it ruled out tapping extra revenue from the booming mining sector.

guess we know whether there will be increased spending on healthcare and defence then

ah well at least letting education fall even further behind was already guaranteed so nobody will be smart enough to even question wait we hear a knock on the door

EnergyAustralia is an electricity generation, electricity and gas retailing private company in Australia, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Hong Kong-based and listed China Light and Power.Wikipedia

We spend billions to build submarines to fight the chinese yet strangely let them take profits from major companies sold into private hands

You’ve been lied to – be don’t need more taxes

Our own fault for selling them for a quick profit and haven’t they recently (in the last few years or so) increased foreign ownership value
Can’t blame the Chinese who have or had lots of spending money

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

SCIENCE said:

guess who’s deeper in the fossil fuels cesspit than Marketing and yet won the election

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/sep/02/jobs-and-skills-summit-2022-labor-rules-out-mining-tax-despite-economist-ross-garnaut-energy-prices-warning

Increased spending on healthcare and defence could be met through a greater grab from the resource sector, without the need to raise income taxes, economist Ross Garnaut has told the Jobs and Skills Summit. Garnaut’s comments, made to delegates over dinner on Thursday night, were followed on Friday by the Albanese government hinting that it may expand paid parental leave even as it ruled out tapping extra revenue from the booming mining sector.

guess we know whether there will be increased spending on healthcare and defence then

ah well at least letting education fall even further behind was already guaranteed so nobody will be smart enough to even question wait we hear a knock on the door

EnergyAustralia is an electricity generation, electricity and gas retailing private company in Australia, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Hong Kong-based and listed China Light and Power.Wikipedia

We spend billions to build submarines to fight the chinese yet strangely let them take profits from major companies sold into private hands

You’ve been lied to – be don’t need more taxes

Our own fault for selling them for a quick profit and haven’t they recently (in the last few years or so) increased foreign ownership value
Can’t blame the Chinese who have or had lots of spending money

you know how the news articles are always on about how dirty CHINA profited off the international rules-based order but is playing the rules as opposed to playing by the rules

so which is it, were these leases and purchases and ownerships legit’ or not

SCIENCE said:

so which is it, were these leases and purchases and ownerships legit’ or not

‘Legit’ is one thing.

‘Desirable’, ‘risky’, ‘‘problematic’, ‘advisable’, ‘at odds with the national interest’…

…they’re all separate questions.

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

so which is it, were these leases and purchases and ownerships legit’ or not

‘Legit’ is one thing.

‘Desirable’, ‘risky’, ‘‘problematic’, ‘advisable’, ‘at odds with the national interest’…

…they’re all separate questions.

yeah but that’s the thing right, if someone is just better at playing within the rules, and (let’s assume legit’) scores some great deals for themselves, and suddenly the other players are upset about it because they were or were not ‘desirable’, ‘risky’, ‘problematic’, ‘advisable’, ‘at odds with the national interest’ then suddenly we realise it’s a lot more difficult than everyone thought

like in the past the dudes with the biggest fireworks could just say “fuck the rules, this wasn’t in the spirit of Our game, you can play by Our rules from here” but is that what should be tried now

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/02/peter-dutton-will-be-hoping-australians-werent-paying-attention-to-the-jobs-and-skills-summit

Link

Bogsnorkler said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/02/peter-dutton-will-be-hoping-australians-werent-paying-attention-to-the-jobs-and-skills-summit

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It must be so awkward for Spud. After years of do-nothing government, when everything was declared to be too hard, or it was never the time to talk about this right now, or Labor’s fault somehow, or the relevant Minister was missing in action (if they could be identified), or it was not within the purview of the Federal government, to have a Labor government come in and achieve more in around 100 days than your government did in years, and with the support of the business groups who are supposed to be on your side…well, i ask you.

I just hope he doesn’t take it out on his Opposition members. If he can find any of them.

dv said:

I am completely unaffected by “woke” or “anti-woke”. Either way it means “these are people to ignore”.

party_pants said:

dv said:

I am completely unaffected by “woke” or “anti-woke”. Either way it means “these are people to ignore”.

It’s a Sky News thing, good for a laugh and that’s all

party_pants said:

dv said:

I am completely unaffected by “woke” or “anti-woke”. Either way it means “these are people to ignore”.

I don’t think I have ever seen or read the word woke used other than a term of contempt.

So I don’t know if I approve of wokeness or not.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-03/grace-tame-fighting-for-justice-despite-cowardly-attacks/101399514

But here’s the kicker: my team on Mornings recognised Mary’s number and remembered it as a regular texter. The number had shown up several times before — but on those occasions it had been signed off as a man.

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-03/grace-tame-fighting-for-justice-despite-cowardly-attacks/101399514

But here’s the kicker: my team on Mornings recognised Mary’s number and remembered it as a regular texter. The number had shown up several times before — but on those occasions it had been signed off as a man.

So if you are a journalist, and you say something about a politician that may be taken as defamation, be prepared to pay millions in fines, but if you are convicted of child abuse, and years later choose to openly threaten the victim of your abuse, the police can do nothing about it?

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-03/grace-tame-fighting-for-justice-despite-cowardly-attacks/101399514

But here’s the kicker: my team on Mornings recognised Mary’s number and remembered it as a regular texter. The number had shown up several times before — but on those occasions it had been signed off as a man.

So if you are a journalist, and you say something about a politician that may be taken as defamation, be prepared to pay millions in fines, but if you are convicted of child abuse, and years later choose to openly threaten the victim of your abuse, the police can do nothing about it?

is the victim a politician

“Mr Abetz … will bring to the monarchist cause the same fighting spirit that has characterised his entire political career for nearly three decades.”

Philip BenwellThe chair of the Australian Monarchist League announces Eric Abetz has been appointed to the body. If they get one more vampire they should be able to raise King James.
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Because nazi?

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“An ideal model would be one where we allow 13- to 15-year-olds to work…”

Paul ZahraThe head of the Australian Retailers Association calls for a decrease in the legal working age. It sounds extreme, but when was the last time you heard about a good rug made in this country?

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sarahs mum said:

“Mr Abetz … will bring to the monarchist cause the same fighting spirit that has characterised his entire political career for nearly three decades.”

Philip BenwellThe chair of the Australian Monarchist League announces Eric Abetz has been appointed to the body. If they get one more vampire they should be able to raise King James.
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Because nazi?

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“An ideal model would be one where we allow 13- to 15-year-olds to work…”

Paul ZahraThe head of the Australian Retailers Association calls for a decrease in the legal working age. It sounds extreme, but when was the last time you heard about a good rug made in this country?

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https://www.perthnow.com.au/business/kids-as-young-as-13-offered-up-to-fill-labour-shortages-c-8064999

Link

I was 13 when I got a job in a servo in Melbourne.

Bogsnorkler said:

sarahs mum said:

“Mr Abetz … will bring to the monarchist cause the same fighting spirit that has characterised his entire political career for nearly three decades.”

Philip BenwellThe chair of the Australian Monarchist League announces Eric Abetz has been appointed to the body. If they get one more vampire they should be able to raise King James.
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Because nazi?

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“An ideal model would be one where we allow 13- to 15-year-olds to work…”

Paul ZahraThe head of the Australian Retailers Association calls for a decrease in the legal working age. It sounds extreme, but when was the last time you heard about a good rug made in this country?

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https://www.perthnow.com.au/business/kids-as-young-as-13-offered-up-to-fill-labour-shortages-c-8064999

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I was 13 when I got a job in a servo in Melbourne.

14 and 9 months. Four hours on a thursday night and four hours on saturday morning.

My Sarah was head hunted as a 13 year old and paid as a 15 year old. it was just Saturday mornings though. 18 months later the shop shut down and she was immediately head hunted by the local grocery. they were stunned that she cleaned glass surfaces without being asked and she saved the day during a power black out by acting as a cash register. (She grew behind the stall at Salamanca.) (I remember when she started doing decimals in maths she had a breakdown and declared it too hard. I taught her to change each question into money. surprising! it was easy!)

>The chair of the Australian Monarchist League announces Eric Abetz has been appointed to the body.

Goodo. They need as many unpopular people as they can find, to help sink their cause.

OK, I’ve decided it’ll be one x large pork & pear pie.

Ingredients will include: diced pork, sliced pear, diced tater, currants, dates, onion, garlic, cashews, cinnamon, ginger, fennel seeds, olive oil, white wine.

Bubblecar said:

OK, I’ve decided it’ll be one x large pork & pear pie.

Ingredients will include: diced pork, sliced pear, diced tater, currants, dates, onion, garlic, cashews, cinnamon, ginger, fennel seeds, olive oil, white wine.

…for Chat :)

sarahs mum said:

Bogsnorkler said:

sarahs mum said:

“Mr Abetz … will bring to the monarchist cause the same fighting spirit that has characterised his entire political career for nearly three decades.”

Philip BenwellThe chair of the Australian Monarchist League announces Eric Abetz has been appointed to the body. If they get one more vampire they should be able to raise King James.
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Because nazi?

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“An ideal model would be one where we allow 13- to 15-year-olds to work…”

Paul ZahraThe head of the Australian Retailers Association calls for a decrease in the legal working age. It sounds extreme, but when was the last time you heard about a good rug made in this country?

—-

https://www.perthnow.com.au/business/kids-as-young-as-13-offered-up-to-fill-labour-shortages-c-8064999

Link

I was 13 when I got a job in a servo in Melbourne.

14 and 9 months. Four hours on a thursday night and four hours on saturday morning.

My Sarah was head hunted as a 13 year old and paid as a 15 year old. it was just Saturday mornings though. 18 months later the shop shut down and she was immediately head hunted by the local grocery. they were stunned that she cleaned glass surfaces without being asked and she saved the day during a power black out by acting as a cash register. (She grew behind the stall at Salamanca.) (I remember when she started doing decimals in maths she had a breakdown and declared it too hard. I taught her to change each question into money. surprising! it was easy!)

My dad used to take me with him to feed the sheep in Autumn. He would fill up bags of oats from the grain silo and load up the truck with them, then drive to the paddock where the sheep were. He would put the truck in low gear, turn up the idle screw a little and leave me in the cab by myself to drive the truck around avoiding obstacles while he was on the back trailing out the oats for the sheep. I was 4, I got nearly two years of truck driving experience before I turned 6 and had to go to grade 1 primary school.

SCIENCE said:

there

Australian Ukrainians say a three-storey-high mural in South Melbourne depicting a Russian soldier and a Ukrainian soldier hugging is a “profound insult”.

Melbourne not holding back on controversy hey

Instagram blocks Melbourne breastfeeding mural in several countries

The Economy Must Grow ¡

Australian children as young as 6 making their own content, with growing concerns that popular influencer-promoted websites such as OnlyFans are normalising making pornography for cash.

Detective Acting Inspector Carla McIntyre, the officer in charge of the Joint Anti-Child Exploitation Team, said police were now having tough conversations with parents after knocking on doors thinking they’re preventing children from harm, only to find the child was authoring their own exploitation material. “We’ve gone through the door with a search warrant and then identified actually there is no adult involved in this, it’s actually just the child,” McIntyre said.

Labor maintains its Newspoll dominance, with the Coalition primary vote and Peter Dutton’s personal ratings both heading in the wrong direction.

The Australian reports the second Newspoll since the election has produced an even weaker result for the Coalition than the first four weeks ago, with Labor’s two-party lead out from 56-44 to 57-43. Labor’s primary vote is steady at 37%, with the Coalition down two to 31% – their equal worst result in Newspoll history, matching the third poll under the Rudd government in February-March 2008 – with the Greens up one to 13%, One Nation up one to 7% (their strongest result in three years) and the United Australia Party steady on 2%.

Anthony Albanese is steady on 61% approval and up three on disapproval to 29%, while Peter Dutton is down two on approval to 35% and up two on disapproval to 43%. Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister has widened from 59-25 to 61-22. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1505.

time to go green

Time for Peter Dutton to quit politics.

dv said:

Labor maintains its Newspoll dominance, with the Coalition primary vote and Peter Dutton’s personal ratings both heading in the wrong direction.

shakes head

I really thought you’d have gotten off your love for the libs, but apparently not.

:)

sibeen said:

dv said:

Labor maintains its Newspoll dominance, with the Coalition primary vote and Peter Dutton’s personal ratings both heading in the wrong direction.

shakes head

I really thought you’d have gotten off your love for the libs, but apparently not.

:)

heh

anyway we guess that means there’s no incentive for the powerful to stop a pandemic then this is awesome

German workers were amongst the most productive in the world because employers there coordinated their bargaining around wages and skills, and it was similar in Switzerland, Denmark and Norway.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Time for Peter Dutton to quit politics.

He should have quit at the last election.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Time for Peter Dutton to quit politics.

He should have quit at the last election.

I’d much rather he stay in the top LNP job for as long as possible as that would drastically reduce the chances of the LNP gaining power again.

Spiny Norman said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Time for Peter Dutton to quit politics.

He should have quit at the last election.

I’d much rather he stay in the top LNP job for as long as possible as that would drastically reduce the chances of the LNP gaining power again.

ok, I’‘ll go with that, anything to stop Mr potato head from becoming PM.

dv said:

‘a communist dictatorship’.

Forgive my poor memory, but wasn’t that under a L/NP Federal government and a L/NP State government?

Honestly, those commies, is there nowhere they haven’t infiltrated.

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

‘a communist dictatorship’.

Forgive my poor memory, but wasn’t that under a L/NP Federal government and a L/NP State government?

Honestly, those commies, is there nowhere they haven’t infiltrated.

um ah look just maybe dv was pointing out the deeper irony which is that broadly and historically speaking, it is fascists who blame everything on the communists, and instead of beautiful white PH we have someone else proudly displaying a colonial flag and doing the … nah … no

Srsly though I doubt he is embarrassed

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

dv said:

‘a communist dictatorship’.

Forgive my poor memory, but wasn’t that under a L/NP Federal government and a L/NP State government?

Honestly, those commies, is there nowhere they haven’t infiltrated.

um ah look just maybe dv was pointing out the deeper irony which is that broadly and historically speaking, it is fascists who blame everything on the communists, and instead of beautiful white PH we have someone else proudly displaying a colonial flag and doing the … nah … no

It works on more than one level.

dv said:

Is China still under a national zero Covid lockdown? Haven’t heard nuttin’ about that one for weeks now.

Woodie said:

dv said:

Is China still under a national zero Covid lockdown? Haven’t heard nuttin’ about that one for weeks now.

Chengdu in Sichuan, population 21m is in lockdown most recently.

Woodie said:

dv said:

Is China still under a national zero Covid lockdown? Haven’t heard nuttin’ about that one for weeks now.

Various areas are.

Spiny Norman said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Time for Peter Dutton to quit politics.

He should have quit at the last election.

I’d much rather he stay in the top LNP job for as long as possible as that would drastically reduce the chances of the LNP gaining power again.

And listening to Parliament on the radio today…he and Sussan Ley are doing such a good job in question time…Just kept serving up opportunities for the Government to remind them about transparency…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-05/solomon-islands-says-australia-nz-exempt-from-navy-ship-ban/101407122

Michael V said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-05/solomon-islands-says-australia-nz-exempt-from-navy-ship-ban/101407122

US Navy banned. US Navy ‘dry’. No fun at social occasions on US warships.

friendlyjordies
I Am Being Criminally Prosecuted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEKze6fXEW4

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again.

sarahs mum said:

friendlyjordies
I Am Being Criminally Prosecuted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEKze6fXEW4

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again.

Time to stop punishing whistle blowers and reward them instead.

Tau.Neutrino said:

sarahs mum said:

friendlyjordies
I Am Being Criminally Prosecuted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEKze6fXEW4

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again.

Time to stop punishing whistle blowers and reward them instead.

Also they keep on trying to get jordies without thinking through the charges. In this case trying to get jordies for something he had no hand in.

It’s looking more like a vendetta all the time.

sarahs mum said:

Is the one with the GG?

Witty Rejoinder said:

sarahs mum said:

Is the one with the GG?

yes

Witty Rejoinder said:

sarahs mum said:

Is the one with the GG?

yep.

sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

sarahs mum said:

friendlyjordies
I Am Being Criminally Prosecuted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEKze6fXEW4

—-\\

again.

Time to stop punishing whistle blowers and reward them instead.

Also they keep on trying to get jordies without thinking through the charges. In this case trying to get jordies for something he had no hand in.

It’s looking more like a vendetta all the time.

Haul their terrible ethics through the media for all to see.

drain the swamp

SCIENCE said:

drain the swamp

Might that not swamp the drain?

That’s fine, I would’ve just wasted the money anyway

dv said:

That’s fine, I would’ve just wasted the money anyway

https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/federal/federal-government-settles-tudge-affair-case-for-650k-20220905-p5bfcy.html

Link

ChrispenEvan said:

dv said:

That’s fine, I would’ve just wasted the money anyway

https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/federal/federal-government-settles-tudge-affair-case-for-650k-20220905-p5bfcy.html

Link

Seems like a long and drawn out saga.

ChrispenEvan said:

dv said:

That’s fine, I would’ve just wasted the money anyway

https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/federal/federal-government-settles-tudge-affair-case-for-650k-20220905-p5bfcy.html

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I am going to refuse to pay tax from now on until the guilty party pays for the damage they have done.

Kingy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

dv said:

That’s fine, I would’ve just wasted the money anyway

https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/federal/federal-government-settles-tudge-affair-case-for-650k-20220905-p5bfcy.html

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I am going to refuse to pay tax from now on until the guilty party pays for the damage they have done.

Strangely enough, I don’t have a lot of sympathy for staffers who have affairs with ministers.

LOL

The identity of the 14-year-old Tasmanian boy who solved the code has not been revealed. Distinguished Professor Willy Susilo is the Director of the University of Wollongong’s Institute of Cybersecurity and Cryptology. He said it was clear whoever cracked the ASD’s code had talent and instinct, given they probably hadn’t had formal training.

such a leap, we have good evidence that at 14 years old, the crowd we were in had plenty of formal training

dv said:

Is rigour anything like avec?

Tamb said:

dv said:

Is rigour anything like avec?

mortise

nice of them to include a mention of the people who made all of it possible in the first place, the taxpayers

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

dv said:

Is rigour anything like avec?

mortise

and the three tenons?

This is a real tweet on Sussan Ley’s twitter account.

dv said:

This is a real tweet on Sussan Ley’s twitter account.

Who is kermit?

sibeen said:

dv said:

This is a real tweet on Sussan Ley’s twitter account.

Who is kermit?

a green frog from sesame street. miss piggy’s squeeze.

Who Needs A Royal Commission When You Can Tealwash Instead

hm

Following another 0.5 per cent hike in interest rates announced by the Reserve Bank yesterday, Greens senator Nick McKim said its governor Phillip Lowe should be sacked.

SCIENCE said:

hm

Following another 0.5 per cent hike in interest rates announced by the Reserve Bank yesterday, Greens senator Nick McKim said its governor Phillip Lowe should be sacked.

mmm

Nationals senator Matt Canavan backed Senator McKim’s call. “The Reserve Bank failed. There is no doubt about that,” he said. “I think this RBA governor should have gone when he promised to not raise rates until 2024 and now he‘s broken that promise five times.”

in New Politics, what’s Green is green again

wait

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

hm

Following another 0.5 per cent hike in interest rates announced by the Reserve Bank yesterday, Greens senator Nick McKim said its governor Phillip Lowe should be sacked.

mmm

Nationals senator Matt Canavan backed Senator McKim’s call. “The Reserve Bank failed. There is no doubt about that,” he said. “I think this RBA governor should have gone when he promised to not raise rates until 2024 and now he‘s broken that promise five times.”

in New Politics, what’s Green is green again

wait

I wonder in regards to interests rate rises if it forces inflation even higher.
People could think “I’m not doing without my wants, I’ll put the prices up so I can still afford them”

SCIENCE said:

hm

Following another 0.5 per cent hike in interest rates announced by the Reserve Bank yesterday, Greens senator Nick McKim said its governor Phillip Lowe should be sacked.

Yeah. Interest rates are now at their highest in 7 years. 7 YEARS!!!! I tells ya. SEVEN STUFFING YEARS!!! We’re all doomed. That’s it. Over and done with. We’re all gunna starve livin’ int shoo box int middle ut road. But at least we’ll still have Netflix. Looxury.

Why we weren’t all doomed 7 years ago, I’m not sure. Proberlee Tony Abbott’s fault.

The Reserve Bank is just flexing its ‘muscles’ to remind everyone that its still there. After some years of effectively doing nothing because it could do nothing, it now feels that it has to be seen to be doing something, even if it turns out to be the wrong something.

It sees a need to justify its existence, now that the banks basically ignore it, unless it does something which suits their purposes.

captain_spalding said:

The Reserve Bank is just flexing its ‘muscles’ to remind everyone that its still there. After some years of effectively doing nothing because it could do nothing, it now feels that it has to be seen to be doing something, even if it turns out to be the wrong something.

It sees a need to justify its existence, now that the banks basically ignore it, unless it does something which suits their purposes.

These “hikes” are only bad for those who are in debt.
Just what they deserve for living in a “I will have it now” world.

captain_spalding said:

The Reserve Bank is just flexing its ‘muscles’ to remind everyone that its still there. After some years of effectively doing nothing because it could do nothing, it now feels that it has to be seen to be doing something, even if it turns out to be the wrong something.

It sees a need to justify its existence, now that the banks basically ignore it, unless it does something which suits their purposes.

How do the banks ignore the RBA overnight cash rate that they have to accept when they deposit funds overnight with the RBA as the law requires?

Tamb said:

captain_spalding said:

The Reserve Bank is just flexing its ‘muscles’ to remind everyone that its still there. After some years of effectively doing nothing because it could do nothing, it now feels that it has to be seen to be doing something, even if it turns out to be the wrong something.

It sees a need to justify its existence, now that the banks basically ignore it, unless it does something which suits their purposes.

These “hikes” are only bad for those who are in debt.
Just what they deserve for living in a “I will have it now” world.

yep, i’m not complaining about higher interest rates. plus leaving it to the banks with some guidance would appear foolhardy.

Tamb said:

captain_spalding said:

The Reserve Bank is just flexing its ‘muscles’ to remind everyone that its still there. After some years of effectively doing nothing because it could do nothing, it now feels that it has to be seen to be doing something, even if it turns out to be the wrong something.

It sees a need to justify its existence, now that the banks basically ignore it, unless it does something which suits their purposes.

These “hikes” are only bad for those who are in debt.
Just what they deserve for living in a “I will have it now” world.

The world is set up though that most people have to borrow money for many essentials like a house.

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

The Reserve Bank is just flexing its ‘muscles’ to remind everyone that its still there. After some years of effectively doing nothing because it could do nothing, it now feels that it has to be seen to be doing something, even if it turns out to be the wrong something.

It sees a need to justify its existence, now that the banks basically ignore it, unless it does something which suits their purposes.

How do the banks ignore the RBA overnight cash rate that they have to accept when they deposit funds overnight with the RBA as the law requires?

by putting their hands over their ears and going lalalalalalala?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-07/ian-macdonald-retrial-over-hunter-mining-licence-begins/101414070

Mr Macdonald and ex-union boss John Maitland are charged with wilful misconduct in public office and being an accessory to the misconduct, after the Doyles Creek mine licence, in the Hunter, was directly allocated to a company Mr Maitland chaired while Mr Macdonald had the mining portfolio in 2008.

—-

Man I hope the Federal ICAC has similar zeal for historical cases

another imperialist playbook

Solomon Islands Prime Minister Manasseh Sogavare has launched an extraordinary attack on the Albanese government, blasting Australia’s offer to subsidise the Pacific nation’s elections as “an assault on our parliamentary democracy”. Sogavare, who is seeking to delay next year’s scheduled elections by seven months, said Australia’s offer of financial assistance constituted “direct interference by a foreign government in our domestic affairs”.

elections to the highest bidder

This should probably be in here rather than chat.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-07/albanese-government-scraps-funding-for-gg-backed-foundation/101416170

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-07/albanese-government-scraps-funding-for-gg-backed-foundation/101416170

I should think so.

thank fuck for teal

SCIENCE said:

another imperialist playbook

Solomon Islands Prime Minister Manasseh Sogavare has launched an extraordinary attack on the Albanese government, blasting Australia’s offer to subsidise the Pacific nation’s elections as “an assault on our parliamentary democracy”. Sogavare, who is seeking to delay next year’s scheduled elections by seven months, said Australia’s offer of financial assistance constituted “direct interference by a foreign government in our domestic affairs”.

elections to the highest bidder

Too late, Anthony, China’s got it all sewn up. They’ll do everything for you: provide the equipment, organise the polling places, fill out the ballots…

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

another imperialist playbook

Solomon Islands Prime Minister Manasseh Sogavare has launched an extraordinary attack on the Albanese government, blasting Australia’s offer to subsidise the Pacific nation’s elections as “an assault on our parliamentary democracy”. Sogavare, who is seeking to delay next year’s scheduled elections by seven months, said Australia’s offer of financial assistance constituted “direct interference by a foreign government in our domestic affairs”.

elections to the highest bidder

Too late, Anthony, China’s got it all sewn up. They’ll do everything for you: provide the equipment, organise the polling places, fill out the ballots…

Hah.

The Australian Greens
28 mins ·
Last night’s Midwinter Ball in Parliament was sponsored by corporate gas giant, Woodside.
It’s yet another example of what’s wrong with politics in this country. Democracy is captured by the coal & gas corporations, and as they use their cash to buy influence, our climate & our future pay the price.
So we called it out. Inside, and out.
The Greens are the only party that don’t take dirty donations from the fossil fuel industry, so you can trust that we’ll always put people before their profits.
We cannot afford another Government that cuddles up to the coal & gas corporations, instead of taking the urgent action our communities are calling for.
No new coal. No new gas.

sarahs mum said:

The Australian Greens
28 mins ·
Last night’s Midwinter Ball in Parliament was sponsored by corporate gas giant, Woodside.
It’s yet another example of what’s wrong with politics in this country. Democracy is captured by the coal & gas corporations, and as they use their cash to buy influence, our climate & our future pay the price.
So we called it out. Inside, and out.
The Greens are the only party that don’t take dirty donations from the fossil fuel industry, so you can trust that we’ll always put people before their profits.
We cannot afford another Government that cuddles up to the coal & gas corporations, instead of taking the urgent action our communities are calling for.
No new coal. No new gas.

It would be ironic if they served some sort of flatulence causing foods

Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

The Australian Greens
28 mins ·
Last night’s Midwinter Ball in Parliament was sponsored by corporate gas giant, Woodside.
It’s yet another example of what’s wrong with politics in this country. Democracy is captured by the coal & gas corporations, and as they use their cash to buy influence, our climate & our future pay the price.
So we called it out. Inside, and out.
The Greens are the only party that don’t take dirty donations from the fossil fuel industry, so you can trust that we’ll always put people before their profits.
We cannot afford another Government that cuddles up to the coal & gas corporations, instead of taking the urgent action our communities are calling for.
No new coal. No new gas.

It would be ironic if they served some sort of flatulence causing foods

Midwinter Ball in September??

Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

SCIENCE said:

nice of them to include a mention of the people who made all of it possible in the first place, the taxpayers

The Australian Greens
28 mins ·
Last night’s Midwinter Ball in Parliament was sponsored by corporate gas giant, Woodside.
It’s yet another example of what’s wrong with politics in this country. Democracy is captured by the coal & gas corporations, and as they use their cash to buy influence, our climate & our future pay the price.
So we called it out. Inside, and out.
The Greens are the only party that don’t take dirty donations from the fossil fuel industry, so you can trust that we’ll always put people before their profits.
We cannot afford another Government that cuddles up to the coal & gas corporations, instead of taking the urgent action our communities are calling for.
No new coal. No new gas.

It would be ironic if they served some sort of flatulence causing foods

“red kidney beans and white beans have the highest iron content”

Tamb said:

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

sarahs mum said:

The Australian Greens
28 mins ·
Last night’s Midwinter Ball in Parliament was sponsored by corporate gas giant, Woodside.
It’s yet another example of what’s wrong with politics in this country. Democracy is captured by the coal & gas corporations, and as they use their cash to buy influence, our climate & our future pay the price.
So we called it out. Inside, and out.
The Greens are the only party that don’t take dirty donations from the fossil fuel industry, so you can trust that we’ll always put people before their profits.
We cannot afford another Government that cuddles up to the coal & gas corporations, instead of taking the urgent action our communities are calling for.
No new coal. No new gas.

It would be ironic if they served some sort of flatulence causing foods

“red kidney beans and white beans have the highest iron content”

Midwinter Ball in September??

shrug 2020 Olympics in 2021 shrug

sarahs mum said:

The Australian Greens
28 mins ·
Last night’s Midwinter Ball in Parliament was sponsored by corporate gas giant, Woodside.
It’s yet another example of what’s wrong with politics in this country. Democracy is captured by the coal & gas corporations, and as they use their cash to buy influence, our climate & our future pay the price.
So we called it out. Inside, and out.
The Greens are the only party that don’t take dirty donations from the fossil fuel industry, so you can trust that we’ll always put people before their profits.
We cannot afford another Government that cuddles up to the coal & gas corporations, instead of taking the urgent action our communities are calling for.
No new coal. No new gas.

OK, but I wish they would focus on getting the infrastructure and regulations in place to get rid of GHG emitting processes as quickly as possible, rather than focus on the easy arguments, that aren’t that effective in reducing emissions.

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

The Australian Greens
28 mins ·
Last night’s Midwinter Ball in Parliament was sponsored by corporate gas giant, Woodside.
It’s yet another example of what’s wrong with politics in this country. Democracy is captured by the coal & gas corporations, and as they use their cash to buy influence, our climate & our future pay the price.
So we called it out. Inside, and out.
The Greens are the only party that don’t take dirty donations from the fossil fuel industry, so you can trust that we’ll always put people before their profits.
We cannot afford another Government that cuddles up to the coal & gas corporations, instead of taking the urgent action our communities are calling for.
No new coal. No new gas.

OK, but I wish they would focus on getting the infrastructure and regulations in place to get rid of GHG emitting processes as quickly as possible, rather than focus on the easy arguments, that aren’t that effective in reducing emissions.

Advocacy for their position strengthens their arm in establishing such regulations.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

The Australian Greens
28 mins ·
Last night’s Midwinter Ball in Parliament was sponsored by corporate gas giant, Woodside.
It’s yet another example of what’s wrong with politics in this country. Democracy is captured by the coal & gas corporations, and as they use their cash to buy influence, our climate & our future pay the price.
So we called it out. Inside, and out.
The Greens are the only party that don’t take dirty donations from the fossil fuel industry, so you can trust that we’ll always put people before their profits.
We cannot afford another Government that cuddles up to the coal & gas corporations, instead of taking the urgent action our communities are calling for.
No new coal. No new gas.

OK, but I wish they would focus on getting the infrastructure and regulations in place to get rid of GHG emitting processes as quickly as possible, rather than focus on the easy arguments, that aren’t that effective in reducing emissions.

Advocacy for their position strengthens their arm in establishing such regulations.

I feel sorry for the women.
An opportunity to really glam up & instead they become political billboards.

Tamb said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, but I wish they would focus on getting the infrastructure and regulations in place to get rid of GHG emitting processes as quickly as possible, rather than focus on the easy arguments, that aren’t that effective in reducing emissions.

Advocacy for their position strengthens their arm in establishing such regulations.

I feel sorry for the women.
An opportunity to really glam up & instead they become political billboards.

My only complaint is that it is unoriginal and referential, and perhaps some other style should have been used

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

sarahs mum said:

The Australian Greens
28 mins ·
Last night’s Midwinter Ball in Parliament was sponsored by corporate gas giant, Woodside.
It’s yet another example of what’s wrong with politics in this country. Democracy is captured by the coal & gas corporations, and as they use their cash to buy influence, our climate & our future pay the price.
So we called it out. Inside, and out.
The Greens are the only party that don’t take dirty donations from the fossil fuel industry, so you can trust that we’ll always put people before their profits.
We cannot afford another Government that cuddles up to the coal & gas corporations, instead of taking the urgent action our communities are calling for.
No new coal. No new gas.

OK, but I wish they would focus on getting the infrastructure and regulations in place to get rid of GHG emitting processes as quickly as possible, rather than focus on the easy arguments, that aren’t that effective in reducing emissions.

Advocacy for their position strengthens their arm in establishing such regulations.

But does it?

I’d say it strengthens opposition to their position, which is likely to delay effective action rather than otherwise.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

OK, but I wish they would focus on getting the infrastructure and regulations in place to get rid of GHG emitting processes as quickly as possible, rather than focus on the easy arguments, that aren’t that effective in reducing emissions.

Advocacy for their position strengthens their arm in establishing such regulations.

But does it?

I’d say it strengthens opposition to their position, which is likely to delay effective action rather than otherwise.

(shrugs) Seems to be working okay for the movement, whose ideals are now the mainstream, its opponents banished from governments.

Senator Pauline Hanson wants stronger border protections in response to Foot and Mouth Disease in Bali where “cattle roam the streets. Cattle shit on the ground, people walk in that shit, that shit is then brought back in their clothing…into this country.”

Ian said:

Senator Pauline Hanson wants stronger border protections in response to Foot and Mouth Disease in Bali where “cattle roam the streets. Cattle shit on the ground, people walk in that shit, that shit is then brought back in their clothing…into this country.”

She added: “I know I talk a lot of shit, but at least I don’t walk in it…”

Bubblecar said:

Ian said:

Senator Pauline Hanson wants stronger border protections in response to Foot and Mouth Disease in Bali where “cattle roam the streets. Cattle shit on the ground, people walk in that shit, that shit is then brought back in their clothing…into this country.”

She added: “I know I talk a lot of shit, but at least I don’t walk in it…”

Must be a ventriloquist.

Bubblecar said:

Ian said:

Senator Pauline Hanson wants stronger border protections in response to Foot and Mouth Disease in Bali where “cattle roam the streets. Cattle shit on the ground, people walk in that shit, that shit is then brought back in their clothing…into this country.”

She added: “I know I talk a lot of shit, but at least I don’t walk in it…”

sometimes people who are generally wrong can get things right, preventative health measures have value, whether they’re used to sneak in other unjustified sanctions is another matter

Ian said:

Senator Pauline Hanson wants stronger border protections in response to Foot and Mouth Disease in Bali where “cattle roam the streets. Cattle shit on the ground, people walk in that shit, that shit is then brought back in their clothing…into this country.”

Well…she’s not wrong. For once.

Ian said:

Senator Pauline Hanson wants stronger border protections in response to Foot and Mouth Disease in Bali where “cattle roam the streets. Cattle shit on the ground, people walk in that shit, that shit is then brought back in their clothing…into this country.”

ASIAN SHIT!

Witty Rejoinder said:

Ian said:

Senator Pauline Hanson wants stronger border protections in response to Foot and Mouth Disease in Bali where “cattle roam the streets. Cattle shit on the ground, people walk in that shit, that shit is then brought back in their clothing…into this country.”

ASIAN SHIT!

Definitely suspicious is bullshit in the cowyard.

captain_spalding said:

Ian said:

Senator Pauline Hanson wants stronger border protections in response to Foot and Mouth Disease in Bali where “cattle roam the streets. Cattle shit on the ground, people walk in that shit, that shit is then brought back in their clothing…into this country.”

Well…she’s not wrong. For once.

Never having been to Bali, do cattle roam the streets like they own the place?

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

Ian said:

Senator Pauline Hanson wants stronger border protections in response to Foot and Mouth Disease in Bali where “cattle roam the streets. Cattle shit on the ground, people walk in that shit, that shit is then brought back in their clothing…into this country.”

Well…she’s not wrong. For once.

Never having been to Bali, do cattle roam the streets like they own the place?

Nope. That’s India.

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

Ian said:

Senator Pauline Hanson wants stronger border protections in response to Foot and Mouth Disease in Bali where “cattle roam the streets. Cattle shit on the ground, people walk in that shit, that shit is then brought back in their clothing…into this country.”

Well…she’s not wrong. For once.

Never having been to Bali, do cattle roam the streets like they own the place?

Yes, they do.

https://coconuts.co/bali/news/cows-roam-lawlessly-denpasar-residents-beg-crackdown/

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

Well…she’s not wrong. For once.

Never having been to Bali, do cattle roam the streets like they own the place?

Yes, they do.

https://coconuts.co/bali/news/cows-roam-lawlessly-denpasar-residents-beg-crackdown/

Bloody Hindus.

captain_spalding said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

captain_spalding said:

Well…she’s not wrong. For once.

Never having been to Bali, do cattle roam the streets like they own the place?

Yes, they do.

https://coconuts.co/bali/news/cows-roam-lawlessly-denpasar-residents-beg-crackdown/

No point going there then. I can see that just down the road.

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/downer-turnbull-trump-poke-five-eyes

“What he did would have got any other ambassador sacked. It was reckless and self-indulgent and put the Australian government in a very awkward position.”

Strong comments from Malcolm Turnbull. Even more remarkable considering that the former prime minister was reflecting on the performance of Alexander Downer, a fellow Liberal, Australia’s longest-serving foreign minister, a former UN special envoy and Australia’s one-time High Commissioner in London – the job where Turnbull’s barbs are aimed. “Foolish behaviour … blundering … blurting out political gossip … worst possible way to do it.”

Downer’s notorious 2016 drinks with Donald Trump aide George Papadopoulos have again hit the headlines, the wine bar chat said to have triggered an FBI investigation into Russian interference into the US presidential election that year. Or the “Rigged Witch Hunt”, as Trump would have it.

I’m guessing that Bolt is completely oblivious to the searing irony of this.

Spiny Norman said:

I’m guessing that Bolt is completely oblivious to the searing irony of this.

Alt headline:

BOLT GETS IT RIGHT FOR ONCE!

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

I’m guessing that Bolt is completely oblivious to the searing irony of this.

Alt headline:

BOLT GETS IT RIGHT FOR ONCE!

straight from horse’s mouth.

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

I’m guessing that Bolt is completely oblivious to the searing irony of this.

Alt headline:

BOLT GETS IT RIGHT FOR ONCE!

How did Bolt manage that?

Tau.Neutrino said:

sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

I’m guessing that Bolt is completely oblivious to the searing irony of this.

Alt headline:

BOLT GETS IT RIGHT FOR ONCE!

straight from horse’s mouth.

How did Bolt manage that?

next level i’n‘it, Hanson and Bolt both correct on the same day, what next, Putin cedes Rostov to Ukraine or something

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

sarahs mum said:

straight from horse’s mouth.

How did Bolt manage that?

next level i’n‘it, Hanson and Bolt both correct on the same day, what next, Putin cedes Rostov to Ukraine or something

It’s that same shit Trump does. You blame your enemy for doing stuff that you are actually doing.

whatever that is called.

>Andrew Bolt: Journalism no longer the truth business

Clearly he means “their” journalism, since his never was the truth business.

Bubblecar said:

>Andrew Bolt: Journalism no longer the truth business

Clearly he means “their” journalism, since his never was the truth business.

I find Andrew Bolt’s journalism refreshingly different. Not that I’ve seen much of it.
He’s one of few journalists that don’t concoct their stories by following the hype.
Often something that is wrong needs to be said, in order to avoid “copy-paste” mentality.

mollwollfumble said:

Often something that is wrong needs to be said…

He’s certainly embraced that concept to its fullest extent.

mollwollfumble said:

Bubblecar said:

>Andrew Bolt: Journalism no longer the truth business

Clearly he means “their” journalism, since his never was the truth business.

I find Andrew Bolt’s journalism refreshingly different. Not that I’ve seen much of it.
He’s one of few journalists that don’t concoct their stories by following the hype.
Often something that is wrong needs to be said, in order to avoid “copy-paste” mentality.

Are we talking about the same andrew bolt?

mollwollfumble said:

Bubblecar said:

>Andrew Bolt: Journalism no longer the truth business

Clearly he means “their” journalism, since his never was the truth business.

I find Andrew Bolt’s journalism refreshingly different. Not that I’ve seen much of it.
He’s one of few journalists that don’t concoct their stories by following the hype.
Often something that is wrong needs to be said, in order to avoid “copy-paste” mentality.

Which Andrew Bolt are we talking about here?

Clearly not the one I have seen mentioned on Media Watch.

dv said:

:))))) LNP
still giggling.

we mean, fk

Mr Sogavare on Thursday repeated his attack on Australia’s offer to fund elections scheduled for next year, telling parliament he still saw it as “an attempt to directly interfere in our domestic affairs”. The offer came in the middle of an acrimonious parliamentary debate over the delay, with the opposition accusing Mr Sogavare of searching for excuses to hold onto power.

The Prime Minister told parliament he would accept Australia’s offer, but his government remained determined to delay the poll until after the Pacific Games in November next year. “If this bill is passed then we look forward to Australia’s offer to assist us in funding the pre-requisite electoral reforms and the conduct of the national elections,” Mr Sogavare declared earlier on Thursday. “They’ve offered now, so you get ready, brother, to fund the costs. It’s a big cost, Mr Speaker, the Electoral Commission needs a lot of money. So you offer, you must prepare to give the money that you said you want to offer us, Mr Speaker!”

Foreign Minister Penny Wong on Wednesday denied that Australia was trying to interfere in Solomon Islands politics by offering to help fund the elections, stressing that the assistance would be available for a poll in either 2023 or 2024.

imagine if any other regional power had offered to fund elections, they would have been celebrated by all others in the region as simply being good friendly generous neighbours doing good deeds

dv said:

Ha :)

dv said:

LOLOLOLOL

dv said:

that is odd

party_pants said:

dv said:

that is odd

unless the purpose of his party all along was to field votes toward the liberals. and the liberals no longer are in position to reward him…

sarahs mum said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

that is odd

unless the purpose of his party all along was to field votes toward the liberals. and the liberals no longer are in position to reward him…

Nah, that is pointless. If PUP didn’t exist they’d all vote Liberal anyway. They are not stealing votes from anybody and redirecting to Liberal, they are stealing Liberal votes hoping to get their own bums on seats and forcing some kind of balance of power.

see yous all knew it fuck CHINA they’re just shills and sycophants setting idiots up for Russian confidence tricksters

“The decline of Australian institutional expertise on Russia is a major problem,” Mr Horvarth added. “For too long, we have been preoccupied with China and have relegated Russia to the status of a regional, European threat.”

nah obviously that’s what they want you to think wait what what wait

SCIENCE said:

see yous all knew it fuck CHINA they’re just shills and sycophants setting idiots up for Russian confidence tricksters

“The decline of Australian institutional expertise on Russia is a major problem,” Mr Horvarth added. “For too long, we have been preoccupied with China and have relegated Russia to the status of a regional, European threat.”

nah obviously that’s what they want you to think wait what what wait

From our POV, this is still probably true.

Essential Research continues its fortnightly polling series minus voting intention or numbers for Peter Dutton when it conducts its monthly leadership ratings, as it has done in the current poll. These record Anthony Albanese returning to his post-election peak on approval at 59%, up four, with disapproval down three to 25%. A monthly question on whether Australia is headed in the right direction is likewise back to where it was in the post-election result with a five point gain to 48%, with a two-point drop in wrong direction to 29%.

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

see yous all knew it fuck CHINA they’re just shills and sycophants setting idiots up for Russian confidence tricksters

“The decline of Australian institutional expertise on Russia is a major problem,” Mr Horvarth added. “For too long, we have been preoccupied with China and have relegated Russia to the status of a regional, European threat.”

nah obviously that’s what they want you to think wait what what wait

From our POV, this is still probably true.

we mean we haven’t ever been really sure that the rest of yous have actually acknowledged agreement with us that for example the criminal president (slash clown crown PM slash Marketing) made a business out of pointing at CHINA CHINA CHINA every time it looked like the selling out to Russia was about to be uncovered

which probably suited both Russia and CHINA just fine since it meant Russia got away with it and CHINA had an excuse to escalate each time

The verdict on “Albo’s” first 100 Days

by Jo Dyer

The Shot

Some described it as a great sigh of relief – the national exhalation of a breath we’d grown accustomed to holding. Others spoke of a weight lifted from our collective shoulders: we could walk freely again, stretching out carefully as the stoop straightened.

The wave of euphoria that flowed across the country on election night and its immediate aftermath was reflected in the enthusiasm even Labor doubters had for the incoming Government and its authentic workaday leader.

There goes Albo, off to the Quad, laughing with world leaders – look! Uncle Joe has his name at the ready! As Biden jokes about Albo’s post-election stamina, the fairweather media were impressed by his ease on the world stage, the newest addition to an awesome foursome spruiking shared democratic values, Modi’s latest lurch into what Arundhati Roy describes as a “criminal Hindu-fascist enterprise”, as ever, politely ignored.

And yes, that is Albo riding bamboo bikes with his next BFF Jokowi and delivering beautiful speeches that celebrated the pre-Invasion trade between his Makassan audience’s ancestors and those of the Yolgnu people of Arnhemland. As Katharine Murphy reported at the time: “(Albo) told his Indonesian audience that each December the Yolngu people would look to the sea, “waiting for the horizon to fill with the sails of Makassan vessels”. He said these journeys were now immortalised in northern Australia in rock art and on bark – Makassan “sails forever full with the wind that brought them across the sea”.

The fishers from Sulawesi were, Albo said, the first Muslims to visit Australia, “writing the first chapter in the story of all that Muslim people have contributed to our nation”, a story that continues, he noted, with Australia’s first Muslim Cabinet Minister being sworn in with the Koran just days before. Ed Husic stood to take a bow.

The dejected Opposition tried to score points by painting the Prime Minister as a jet-setting holidaymaker but their hearts weren’t in it even before it was pointed out that venturing on to the war-torn streets of Kyiv with everyone’s favourite ex-comedian Volodymyr Zelenskyy is not quite the same as skiving off to Hawaii with Jenny and the Girls TM while Australia combusts. Maybe the trip to Paris wasn’t entirely honourably motivated but Emmanuelle and Albo’s bond, born of a shared delight at the Scott-bashing headlines that swept the world following those five words – “I don’t think, I know”.

So it was with full hearts that we tuned in to the first day of the new parliament in all its colourful glory. In the ceremony beforehand, Paul Girrawah House, speaking in English and the language of his ancestors asked the gathered politicians and dignitaries, grouped in vague hierarchies, new Ministers sitting comfortably at the front, newbies and wannabes and never-will-bes standing awkwardly to the side and the back, to respect the law of Ngambri country: “Give honour, be respectful, be polite”, he said, as he noted the great First Nations leaders who had contributed so much to their own emancipation, who had maintained the integrity of their ancient connection to Country in the face of “relentless forces to extinguish us by successive generations of colonisers”.

“Be gentle and patient with all. Hold fast to each other, empower the people”, he said. “Respect shapes us. Lifts up the people.”

Albo threw out his written speech to respond directly to Paul, promoting the Uluru Statement from the Heart in words stern and reflective, simultaneously an exhortation and warning. “Don’t miss the chance”, he said. “You’re not here for that long – none of us will be”, the camera ranging over Bob Katter in an ill-timed cameo. “When you’re sitting on the porch, thinking about what you did, you can either have a source of pride or a source of regret. No middle path”. His voice wobbled. “No middle path”, he repeated. “Make it a source of pride.”

As the day went on even Zoe cracked a smile as the welter of Independent Alpha Females were sworn in en masse. There’s Dr Mon, a few days away from her adroit admonition of a braying Opposition benches that were childishly maskless, devastatingly denuded. Dai Le is there in a buttercup ào dài – significantly more attractive than the Australian flag ensemble she sported this week, and a sunnier time for her generally prior to the decision to squib her first major vote and abstain from the Government’s Climate Bill with an odd insistence that the crash of the tree logged in the forest bringing global climate disaster goes unheard in urban Fairfield.

There were a blaze of excellent debut speeches (“maiden speech” out of favour since the 90s). Sally Sitou gave hers on the 40th anniversary of her Chinese born parents becoming Australian citizens as they watched on with pride. In a vibrant red saree, Zaneta Mascarenhas spoke proudly of her Goan Indian heritage as she joined Mehreen Faruqi and Karen Andrews in the modest cohort of engineers in federal parliament. We’ve yet to hear from Sam Lim but are primed for his next bout of whimsy, whether dolphin-related or not. Stephen Bates morphed into a local AOC as he hung on to his retail job until his first pay cleared. Max Chandler-Mather was berated by a negligibly known National for failing to wear a tie.

The novelty of it all was exhilarating.

Less admirable but thoroughly enjoyable is the glee that there may finally be consequences for some of the more egregious behaviours of the last few years. How edifying it is to watch those accustomed to hiding their multitude of sins behind walls of power suddenly unable to stop the march of justice. As the US Department of Justice edges inexorably closer to indicting Trump for his illegal collection of classified documents, as Johnson’s Lap of Loss finally concludes, as it’s possible that even the mighty Murdochs may face a reckoning or two as fallout from Fox News’ promotion of the Big Lie hits the courts on two continents, we rejoice in the fact that there’s nothing Old Man Morrison can do to stop Virginia Bell exploring his claim that the more power, the more Ministries he concentrated in his own grasping hands, the better it would be for the nation.

Tired tropes remain, of course. Pauline Hanson, fresh from her heart-stoppingly narrow victory over the weed party, despite the latter’s on brand relaxed campaign, is struggling for relevance, so stormed angrily out of the Senate to protest an Acknowledgement of Country that had been in place for years. Soaliha Iqbal pithily observed that the $100m UAP Senator Ralph Babet is currently best known for being the first grindbro and sentient thumb elected to parliament, but he has proved a match made in the 19th Century for Holly Hughes as he warned of radical Marxists on the march, his greatest achievement already behind him with his victory having consigned Sophie Mirabella’s husband to the shortest parliamentary career in memory.

But worst of all is the reminder that, however stark the contrast between our shiny new Government and the stinking carcass of the last, similarities remain.

The first of the three circles of the Albanese Government is the simple “Thank God you’re not Scomo” Circle of Relief. It is here we can be grateful that they bothered to pick the low-hanging fruit. We say thank you for the Nadesalingam family visas, for discontinuing the persecution of Bernard Collaery, for having a competent, articulate Front Bench. We’re loving the prospect of ICAC and the commitment to Voice (even if we’re not sure about Shaq and Lidia Thorpe is freaking us out).

In the second Circle lurk the things one suspects Labor would be now inclined to do had they not boxed themselves into a dark damn corner during the campaign. In this Circle of Purgatory Labor must grapple with the consequences of being too scared to argue a case, of rushing to vacate the field and thereby dodge Morrison’s always over-egged political skills, and his Dark Art of the Wedge. The Government must now live with its cowardice, as, alas, must we. This is the “can we go higher than 43% please?””, the “what is it with the Stage Three tax cuts?”, and the “for fuck’s sake raise Jobseeker already” Circle. It’s where expensive but worthy policy initiatives raised at the Job Summit aren’t met with the reassuring pre-election mantra of “investment not debt” but an incredulously intoned “A trillion dollars!”, and a dismissive wave of the hand. It seems even now, we can’t have nice things.

And finally we hit the Circle of Déjà vu, a shockingly familiar place wherein lies the genuine inability of both Labor and the Coalition to think outside the current square. Julian Assange languishes here, where, despite early hope, the Government’s intention is only to negotiate a post-US conviction return to Australia for Julian to serve out his sentence here. Too bad if he’s dead before then. It’s where the Government puts out press releases claiming a twice yearly automatic indexation increase for welfare recipients that is less than CPI is, rather than an abandonment of our most vulnerable, something worth boasting about. It is from this Circle that the Labor Leadership Circle sets off down the well-trod path to News Corp’s Holt St HQ, in obeisance, without explanation.

And it’s where the new Government fails to come to grips with the climate crisis we face. This is the “yes we will open up 47,000 hectares for new oil and gas exploration across 10 new ocean sites” Circle and where the discredited but unkillable fossil fuel industry’s PR ruse that is Carbon Capture and Storage is promoted as having “a vital role to play to help Australia meet its net zero targets.“. It’s the “we daren’t implement a Resources Rent tax, or even a Super Profits Tax because – post the rolling of Rudd – we don’t do that Down Under, even if they’ve been levied enthusiastically across the world”. It’s the Circle that means the same specious arguments that dropped from the smirking mouth of the old Prime Minister are earnestly mounted by the new one – our fossil fuel exports should not be included in our emissions output accounting and are justified via the drug dealers’ excuse of choice: “If we don’t sell it, someone else will anyway, and their gear will be riskier than our healthy brand of heroin.”

With one third of the habitable land in Pakistan currently submerged and 6.5m people displaced, with China facing record-breaking heatwaves and droughts, with the British finally getting sunburnt in their own country with a run of 40 degree days that would do Adelaide proud turning river beds into dustbowls, with wildfires raging across Europe, with things moving way past warnings into all-out calamity, global Government subsidies to the fossil fuel industries that are killing it financially and killing us incrementally are actually increasing – doubled in one year, according to the OECD. Vastly lucrative businesses are being paid by taxpayers around the world to generate increased carbon pollution and sky-rocketing private profits, including here in Australia.

The first 100 Days have been decidedly mixed. Let’s keep our eye on the next and the next and the next. Rome may not have been built in 100 days but it burned to the ground in six.

ChrispenEvan said:

The verdict on “Albo’s” first 100 Days

by Jo Dyer

The Shot

Some described it as a great sigh of relief – the national exhalation of a breath we’d grown accustomed to holding. Others spoke of a weight lifted from our collective shoulders: we could walk freely again, stretching out carefully as the stoop straightened.

The wave of euphoria that flowed across the country on election night and its immediate aftermath was reflected in the enthusiasm even Labor doubters had for the incoming Government and its authentic workaday leader.

There goes Albo, off to the Quad, laughing with world leaders – look! Uncle Joe has his name at the ready! As Biden jokes about Albo’s post-election stamina, the fairweather media were impressed by his ease on the world stage, the newest addition to an awesome foursome spruiking shared democratic values, Modi’s latest lurch into what Arundhati Roy describes as a “criminal Hindu-fascist enterprise”, as ever, politely ignored.

And yes, that is Albo riding bamboo bikes with his next BFF Jokowi and delivering beautiful speeches that celebrated the pre-Invasion trade between his Makassan audience’s ancestors and those of the Yolgnu people of Arnhemland. As Katharine Murphy reported at the time: “(Albo) told his Indonesian audience that each December the Yolngu people would look to the sea, “waiting for the horizon to fill with the sails of Makassan vessels”. He said these journeys were now immortalised in northern Australia in rock art and on bark – Makassan “sails forever full with the wind that brought them across the sea”.

The fishers from Sulawesi were, Albo said, the first Muslims to visit Australia, “writing the first chapter in the story of all that Muslim people have contributed to our nation”, a story that continues, he noted, with Australia’s first Muslim Cabinet Minister being sworn in with the Koran just days before. Ed Husic stood to take a bow.

The dejected Opposition tried to score points by painting the Prime Minister as a jet-setting holidaymaker but their hearts weren’t in it even before it was pointed out that venturing on to the war-torn streets of Kyiv with everyone’s favourite ex-comedian Volodymyr Zelenskyy is not quite the same as skiving off to Hawaii with Jenny and the Girls TM while Australia combusts. Maybe the trip to Paris wasn’t entirely honourably motivated but Emmanuelle and Albo’s bond, born of a shared delight at the Scott-bashing headlines that swept the world following those five words – “I don’t think, I know”.

So it was with full hearts that we tuned in to the first day of the new parliament in all its colourful glory. In the ceremony beforehand, Paul Girrawah House, speaking in English and the language of his ancestors asked the gathered politicians and dignitaries, grouped in vague hierarchies, new Ministers sitting comfortably at the front, newbies and wannabes and never-will-bes standing awkwardly to the side and the back, to respect the law of Ngambri country: “Give honour, be respectful, be polite”, he said, as he noted the great First Nations leaders who had contributed so much to their own emancipation, who had maintained the integrity of their ancient connection to Country in the face of “relentless forces to extinguish us by successive generations of colonisers”.

“Be gentle and patient with all. Hold fast to each other, empower the people”, he said. “Respect shapes us. Lifts up the people.”

Albo threw out his written speech to respond directly to Paul, promoting the Uluru Statement from the Heart in words stern and reflective, simultaneously an exhortation and warning. “Don’t miss the chance”, he said. “You’re not here for that long – none of us will be”, the camera ranging over Bob Katter in an ill-timed cameo. “When you’re sitting on the porch, thinking about what you did, you can either have a source of pride or a source of regret. No middle path”. His voice wobbled. “No middle path”, he repeated. “Make it a source of pride.”

As the day went on even Zoe cracked a smile as the welter of Independent Alpha Females were sworn in en masse. There’s Dr Mon, a few days away from her adroit admonition of a braying Opposition benches that were childishly maskless, devastatingly denuded. Dai Le is there in a buttercup ào dài – significantly more attractive than the Australian flag ensemble she sported this week, and a sunnier time for her generally prior to the decision to squib her first major vote and abstain from the Government’s Climate Bill with an odd insistence that the crash of the tree logged in the forest bringing global climate disaster goes unheard in urban Fairfield.

There were a blaze of excellent debut speeches (“maiden speech” out of favour since the 90s). Sally Sitou gave hers on the 40th anniversary of her Chinese born parents becoming Australian citizens as they watched on with pride. In a vibrant red saree, Zaneta Mascarenhas spoke proudly of her Goan Indian heritage as she joined Mehreen Faruqi and Karen Andrews in the modest cohort of engineers in federal parliament. We’ve yet to hear from Sam Lim but are primed for his next bout of whimsy, whether dolphin-related or not. Stephen Bates morphed into a local AOC as he hung on to his retail job until his first pay cleared. Max Chandler-Mather was berated by a negligibly known National for failing to wear a tie.

The novelty of it all was exhilarating.

Less admirable but thoroughly enjoyable is the glee that there may finally be consequences for some of the more egregious behaviours of the last few years. How edifying it is to watch those accustomed to hiding their multitude of sins behind walls of power suddenly unable to stop the march of justice. As the US Department of Justice edges inexorably closer to indicting Trump for his illegal collection of classified documents, as Johnson’s Lap of Loss finally concludes, as it’s possible that even the mighty Murdochs may face a reckoning or two as fallout from Fox News’ promotion of the Big Lie hits the courts on two continents, we rejoice in the fact that there’s nothing Old Man Morrison can do to stop Virginia Bell exploring his claim that the more power, the more Ministries he concentrated in his own grasping hands, the better it would be for the nation.

Tired tropes remain, of course. Pauline Hanson, fresh from her heart-stoppingly narrow victory over the weed party, despite the latter’s on brand relaxed campaign, is struggling for relevance, so stormed angrily out of the Senate to protest an Acknowledgement of Country that had been in place for years. Soaliha Iqbal pithily observed that the $100m UAP Senator Ralph Babet is currently best known for being the first grindbro and sentient thumb elected to parliament, but he has proved a match made in the 19th Century for Holly Hughes as he warned of radical Marxists on the march, his greatest achievement already behind him with his victory having consigned Sophie Mirabella’s husband to the shortest parliamentary career in memory.

But worst of all is the reminder that, however stark the contrast between our shiny new Government and the stinking carcass of the last, similarities remain.

The first of the three circles of the Albanese Government is the simple “Thank God you’re not Scomo” Circle of Relief. It is here we can be grateful that they bothered to pick the low-hanging fruit. We say thank you for the Nadesalingam family visas, for discontinuing the persecution of Bernard Collaery, for having a competent, articulate Front Bench. We’re loving the prospect of ICAC and the commitment to Voice (even if we’re not sure about Shaq and Lidia Thorpe is freaking us out).

In the second Circle lurk the things one suspects Labor would be now inclined to do had they not boxed themselves into a dark damn corner during the campaign. In this Circle of Purgatory Labor must grapple with the consequences of being too scared to argue a case, of rushing to vacate the field and thereby dodge Morrison’s always over-egged political skills, and his Dark Art of the Wedge. The Government must now live with its cowardice, as, alas, must we. This is the “can we go higher than 43% please?””, the “what is it with the Stage Three tax cuts?”, and the “for fuck’s sake raise Jobseeker already” Circle. It’s where expensive but worthy policy initiatives raised at the Job Summit aren’t met with the reassuring pre-election mantra of “investment not debt” but an incredulously intoned “A trillion dollars!”, and a dismissive wave of the hand. It seems even now, we can’t have nice things.

And finally we hit the Circle of Déjà vu, a shockingly familiar place wherein lies the genuine inability of both Labor and the Coalition to think outside the current square. Julian Assange languishes here, where, despite early hope, the Government’s intention is only to negotiate a post-US conviction return to Australia for Julian to serve out his sentence here. Too bad if he’s dead before then. It’s where the Government puts out press releases claiming a twice yearly automatic indexation increase for welfare recipients that is less than CPI is, rather than an abandonment of our most vulnerable, something worth boasting about. It is from this Circle that the Labor Leadership Circle sets off down the well-trod path to News Corp’s Holt St HQ, in obeisance, without explanation.

And it’s where the new Government fails to come to grips with the climate crisis we face. This is the “yes we will open up 47,000 hectares for new oil and gas exploration across 10 new ocean sites” Circle and where the discredited but unkillable fossil fuel industry’s PR ruse that is Carbon Capture and Storage is promoted as having “a vital role to play to help Australia meet its net zero targets.“. It’s the “we daren’t implement a Resources Rent tax, or even a Super Profits Tax because – post the rolling of Rudd – we don’t do that Down Under, even if they’ve been levied enthusiastically across the world”. It’s the Circle that means the same specious arguments that dropped from the smirking mouth of the old Prime Minister are earnestly mounted by the new one – our fossil fuel exports should not be included in our emissions output accounting and are justified via the drug dealers’ excuse of choice: “If we don’t sell it, someone else will anyway, and their gear will be riskier than our healthy brand of heroin.”

With one third of the habitable land in Pakistan currently submerged and 6.5m people displaced, with China facing record-breaking heatwaves and droughts, with the British finally getting sunburnt in their own country with a run of 40 degree days that would do Adelaide proud turning river beds into dustbowls, with wildfires raging across Europe, with things moving way past warnings into all-out calamity, global Government subsidies to the fossil fuel industries that are killing it financially and killing us incrementally are actually increasing – doubled in one year, according to the OECD. Vastly lucrative businesses are being paid by taxpayers around the world to generate increased carbon pollution and sky-rocketing private profits, including here in Australia.

The first 100 Days have been decidedly mixed. Let’s keep our eye on the next and the next and the next. Rome may not have been built in 100 days but it burned to the ground in six.

seems a fair wrap up.

ChrispenEvan said:

The verdict on “Albo’s” first 100 Days

by Jo Dyer

The Shot

Some described it as a great sigh of relief – the national exhalation of a breath we’d grown accustomed to holding. Others spoke of a weight lifted from our collective shoulders: we could walk freely again, stretching out carefully as the stoop straightened.

The wave of euphoria that flowed across the country on election night and its immediate aftermath was reflected in the enthusiasm even Labor doubters had for the incoming Government and its authentic workaday leader.

There goes Albo, off to the Quad, laughing with world leaders – look! Uncle Joe has his name at the ready! As Biden jokes about Albo’s post-election stamina, the fairweather media were impressed by his ease on the world stage, the newest addition to an awesome foursome spruiking shared democratic values, Modi’s latest lurch into what Arundhati Roy describes as a “criminal Hindu-fascist enterprise”, as ever, politely ignored.

And yes, that is Albo riding bamboo bikes with his next BFF Jokowi and delivering beautiful speeches that celebrated the pre-Invasion trade between his Makassan audience’s ancestors and those of the Yolgnu people of Arnhemland. As Katharine Murphy reported at the time: “(Albo) told his Indonesian audience that each December the Yolngu people would look to the sea, “waiting for the horizon to fill with the sails of Makassan vessels”. He said these journeys were now immortalised in northern Australia in rock art and on bark – Makassan “sails forever full with the wind that brought them across the sea”.

The fishers from Sulawesi were, Albo said, the first Muslims to visit Australia, “writing the first chapter in the story of all that Muslim people have contributed to our nation”, a story that continues, he noted, with Australia’s first Muslim Cabinet Minister being sworn in with the Koran just days before. Ed Husic stood to take a bow.

The dejected Opposition tried to score points by painting the Prime Minister as a jet-setting holidaymaker but their hearts weren’t in it even before it was pointed out that venturing on to the war-torn streets of Kyiv with everyone’s favourite ex-comedian Volodymyr Zelenskyy is not quite the same as skiving off to Hawaii with Jenny and the Girls TM while Australia combusts. Maybe the trip to Paris wasn’t entirely honourably motivated but Emmanuelle and Albo’s bond, born of a shared delight at the Scott-bashing headlines that swept the world following those five words – “I don’t think, I know”.

So it was with full hearts that we tuned in to the first day of the new parliament in all its colourful glory. In the ceremony beforehand, Paul Girrawah House, speaking in English and the language of his ancestors asked the gathered politicians and dignitaries, grouped in vague hierarchies, new Ministers sitting comfortably at the front, newbies and wannabes and never-will-bes standing awkwardly to the side and the back, to respect the law of Ngambri country: “Give honour, be respectful, be polite”, he said, as he noted the great First Nations leaders who had contributed so much to their own emancipation, who had maintained the integrity of their ancient connection to Country in the face of “relentless forces to extinguish us by successive generations of colonisers”.

“Be gentle and patient with all. Hold fast to each other, empower the people”, he said. “Respect shapes us. Lifts up the people.”

Albo threw out his written speech to respond directly to Paul, promoting the Uluru Statement from the Heart in words stern and reflective, simultaneously an exhortation and warning. “Don’t miss the chance”, he said. “You’re not here for that long – none of us will be”, the camera ranging over Bob Katter in an ill-timed cameo. “When you’re sitting on the porch, thinking about what you did, you can either have a source of pride or a source of regret. No middle path”. His voice wobbled. “No middle path”, he repeated. “Make it a source of pride.”

As the day went on even Zoe cracked a smile as the welter of Independent Alpha Females were sworn in en masse. There’s Dr Mon, a few days away from her adroit admonition of a braying Opposition benches that were childishly maskless, devastatingly denuded. Dai Le is there in a buttercup ào dài – significantly more attractive than the Australian flag ensemble she sported this week, and a sunnier time for her generally prior to the decision to squib her first major vote and abstain from the Government’s Climate Bill with an odd insistence that the crash of the tree logged in the forest bringing global climate disaster goes unheard in urban Fairfield.

There were a blaze of excellent debut speeches (“maiden speech” out of favour since the 90s). Sally Sitou gave hers on the 40th anniversary of her Chinese born parents becoming Australian citizens as they watched on with pride. In a vibrant red saree, Zaneta Mascarenhas spoke proudly of her Goan Indian heritage as she joined Mehreen Faruqi and Karen Andrews in the modest cohort of engineers in federal parliament. We’ve yet to hear from Sam Lim but are primed for his next bout of whimsy, whether dolphin-related or not. Stephen Bates morphed into a local AOC as he hung on to his retail job until his first pay cleared. Max Chandler-Mather was berated by a negligibly known National for failing to wear a tie.

The novelty of it all was exhilarating.

Less admirable but thoroughly enjoyable is the glee that there may finally be consequences for some of the more egregious behaviours of the last few years. How edifying it is to watch those accustomed to hiding their multitude of sins behind walls of power suddenly unable to stop the march of justice. As the US Department of Justice edges inexorably closer to indicting Trump for his illegal collection of classified documents, as Johnson’s Lap of Loss finally concludes, as it’s possible that even the mighty Murdochs may face a reckoning or two as fallout from Fox News’ promotion of the Big Lie hits the courts on two continents, we rejoice in the fact that there’s nothing Old Man Morrison can do to stop Virginia Bell exploring his claim that the more power, the more Ministries he concentrated in his own grasping hands, the better it would be for the nation.

Tired tropes remain, of course. Pauline Hanson, fresh from her heart-stoppingly narrow victory over the weed party, despite the latter’s on brand relaxed campaign, is struggling for relevance, so stormed angrily out of the Senate to protest an Acknowledgement of Country that had been in place for years. Soaliha Iqbal pithily observed that the $100m UAP Senator Ralph Babet is currently best known for being the first grindbro and sentient thumb elected to parliament, but he has proved a match made in the 19th Century for Holly Hughes as he warned of radical Marxists on the march, his greatest achievement already behind him with his victory having consigned Sophie Mirabella’s husband to the shortest parliamentary career in memory.

But worst of all is the reminder that, however stark the contrast between our shiny new Government and the stinking carcass of the last, similarities remain.

The first of the three circles of the Albanese Government is the simple “Thank God you’re not Scomo” Circle of Relief. It is here we can be grateful that they bothered to pick the low-hanging fruit. We say thank you for the Nadesalingam family visas, for discontinuing the persecution of Bernard Collaery, for having a competent, articulate Front Bench. We’re loving the prospect of ICAC and the commitment to Voice (even if we’re not sure about Shaq and Lidia Thorpe is freaking us out).

In the second Circle lurk the things one suspects Labor would be now inclined to do had they not boxed themselves into a dark damn corner during the campaign. In this Circle of Purgatory Labor must grapple with the consequences of being too scared to argue a case, of rushing to vacate the field and thereby dodge Morrison’s always over-egged political skills, and his Dark Art of the Wedge. The Government must now live with its cowardice, as, alas, must we. This is the “can we go higher than 43% please?””, the “what is it with the Stage Three tax cuts?”, and the “for fuck’s sake raise Jobseeker already” Circle. It’s where expensive but worthy policy initiatives raised at the Job Summit aren’t met with the reassuring pre-election mantra of “investment not debt” but an incredulously intoned “A trillion dollars!”, and a dismissive wave of the hand. It seems even now, we can’t have nice things.

And finally we hit the Circle of Déjà vu, a shockingly familiar place wherein lies the genuine inability of both Labor and the Coalition to think outside the current square. Julian Assange languishes here, where, despite early hope, the Government’s intention is only to negotiate a post-US conviction return to Australia for Julian to serve out his sentence here. Too bad if he’s dead before then. It’s where the Government puts out press releases claiming a twice yearly automatic indexation increase for welfare recipients that is less than CPI is, rather than an abandonment of our most vulnerable, something worth boasting about. It is from this Circle that the Labor Leadership Circle sets off down the well-trod path to News Corp’s Holt St HQ, in obeisance, without explanation.

And it’s where the new Government fails to come to grips with the climate crisis we face. This is the “yes we will open up 47,000 hectares for new oil and gas exploration across 10 new ocean sites” Circle and where the discredited but unkillable fossil fuel industry’s PR ruse that is Carbon Capture and Storage is promoted as having “a vital role to play to help Australia meet its net zero targets.“. It’s the “we daren’t implement a Resources Rent tax, or even a Super Profits Tax because – post the rolling of Rudd – we don’t do that Down Under, even if they’ve been levied enthusiastically across the world”. It’s the Circle that means the same specious arguments that dropped from the smirking mouth of the old Prime Minister are earnestly mounted by the new one – our fossil fuel exports should not be included in our emissions output accounting and are justified via the drug dealers’ excuse of choice: “If we don’t sell it, someone else will anyway, and their gear will be riskier than our healthy brand of heroin.”

With one third of the habitable land in Pakistan currently submerged and 6.5m people displaced, with China facing record-breaking heatwaves and droughts, with the British finally getting sunburnt in their own country with a run of 40 degree days that would do Adelaide proud turning river beds into dustbowls, with wildfires raging across Europe, with things moving way past warnings into all-out calamity, global Government subsidies to the fossil fuel industries that are killing it financially and killing us incrementally are actually increasing – doubled in one year, according to the OECD. Vastly lucrative businesses are being paid by taxpayers around the world to generate increased carbon pollution and sky-rocketing private profits, including here in Australia.

The first 100 Days have been decidedly mixed. Let’s keep our eye on the next and the next and the next. Rome may not have been built in 100 days but it burned to the ground in six.

Oh, FFS, does anyone ever fact check these diatribes?

with the British finally getting sunburnt in their own country with a run of 40 degree days that would do Adelaide

How anyone can read that and not go “WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?” is sort of beyond me.

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

The verdict on “Albo’s” first 100 Days

by Jo Dyer

The Shot

Some described it as a great sigh of relief – the national exhalation of a breath we’d grown accustomed to holding. Others spoke of a weight lifted from our collective shoulders: we could walk freely again, stretching out carefully as the stoop straightened.

The wave of euphoria that flowed across the country on election night and its immediate aftermath was reflected in the enthusiasm even Labor doubters had for the incoming Government and its authentic workaday leader.

There goes Albo, off to the Quad, laughing with world leaders – look! Uncle Joe has his name at the ready! As Biden jokes about Albo’s post-election stamina, the fairweather media were impressed by his ease on the world stage, the newest addition to an awesome foursome spruiking shared democratic values, Modi’s latest lurch into what Arundhati Roy describes as a “criminal Hindu-fascist enterprise”, as ever, politely ignored.

And yes, that is Albo riding bamboo bikes with his next BFF Jokowi and delivering beautiful speeches that celebrated the pre-Invasion trade between his Makassan audience’s ancestors and those of the Yolgnu people of Arnhemland. As Katharine Murphy reported at the time: “(Albo) told his Indonesian audience that each December the Yolngu people would look to the sea, “waiting for the horizon to fill with the sails of Makassan vessels”. He said these journeys were now immortalised in northern Australia in rock art and on bark – Makassan “sails forever full with the wind that brought them across the sea”.

The fishers from Sulawesi were, Albo said, the first Muslims to visit Australia, “writing the first chapter in the story of all that Muslim people have contributed to our nation”, a story that continues, he noted, with Australia’s first Muslim Cabinet Minister being sworn in with the Koran just days before. Ed Husic stood to take a bow.

The dejected Opposition tried to score points by painting the Prime Minister as a jet-setting holidaymaker but their hearts weren’t in it even before it was pointed out that venturing on to the war-torn streets of Kyiv with everyone’s favourite ex-comedian Volodymyr Zelenskyy is not quite the same as skiving off to Hawaii with Jenny and the Girls TM while Australia combusts. Maybe the trip to Paris wasn’t entirely honourably motivated but Emmanuelle and Albo’s bond, born of a shared delight at the Scott-bashing headlines that swept the world following those five words – “I don’t think, I know”.

So it was with full hearts that we tuned in to the first day of the new parliament in all its colourful glory. In the ceremony beforehand, Paul Girrawah House, speaking in English and the language of his ancestors asked the gathered politicians and dignitaries, grouped in vague hierarchies, new Ministers sitting comfortably at the front, newbies and wannabes and never-will-bes standing awkwardly to the side and the back, to respect the law of Ngambri country: “Give honour, be respectful, be polite”, he said, as he noted the great First Nations leaders who had contributed so much to their own emancipation, who had maintained the integrity of their ancient connection to Country in the face of “relentless forces to extinguish us by successive generations of colonisers”.

“Be gentle and patient with all. Hold fast to each other, empower the people”, he said. “Respect shapes us. Lifts up the people.”

Albo threw out his written speech to respond directly to Paul, promoting the Uluru Statement from the Heart in words stern and reflective, simultaneously an exhortation and warning. “Don’t miss the chance”, he said. “You’re not here for that long – none of us will be”, the camera ranging over Bob Katter in an ill-timed cameo. “When you’re sitting on the porch, thinking about what you did, you can either have a source of pride or a source of regret. No middle path”. His voice wobbled. “No middle path”, he repeated. “Make it a source of pride.”

As the day went on even Zoe cracked a smile as the welter of Independent Alpha Females were sworn in en masse. There’s Dr Mon, a few days away from her adroit admonition of a braying Opposition benches that were childishly maskless, devastatingly denuded. Dai Le is there in a buttercup ào dài – significantly more attractive than the Australian flag ensemble she sported this week, and a sunnier time for her generally prior to the decision to squib her first major vote and abstain from the Government’s Climate Bill with an odd insistence that the crash of the tree logged in the forest bringing global climate disaster goes unheard in urban Fairfield.

There were a blaze of excellent debut speeches (“maiden speech” out of favour since the 90s). Sally Sitou gave hers on the 40th anniversary of her Chinese born parents becoming Australian citizens as they watched on with pride. In a vibrant red saree, Zaneta Mascarenhas spoke proudly of her Goan Indian heritage as she joined Mehreen Faruqi and Karen Andrews in the modest cohort of engineers in federal parliament. We’ve yet to hear from Sam Lim but are primed for his next bout of whimsy, whether dolphin-related or not. Stephen Bates morphed into a local AOC as he hung on to his retail job until his first pay cleared. Max Chandler-Mather was berated by a negligibly known National for failing to wear a tie.

The novelty of it all was exhilarating.

Less admirable but thoroughly enjoyable is the glee that there may finally be consequences for some of the more egregious behaviours of the last few years. How edifying it is to watch those accustomed to hiding their multitude of sins behind walls of power suddenly unable to stop the march of justice. As the US Department of Justice edges inexorably closer to indicting Trump for his illegal collection of classified documents, as Johnson’s Lap of Loss finally concludes, as it’s possible that even the mighty Murdochs may face a reckoning or two as fallout from Fox News’ promotion of the Big Lie hits the courts on two continents, we rejoice in the fact that there’s nothing Old Man Morrison can do to stop Virginia Bell exploring his claim that the more power, the more Ministries he concentrated in his own grasping hands, the better it would be for the nation.

Tired tropes remain, of course. Pauline Hanson, fresh from her heart-stoppingly narrow victory over the weed party, despite the latter’s on brand relaxed campaign, is struggling for relevance, so stormed angrily out of the Senate to protest an Acknowledgement of Country that had been in place for years. Soaliha Iqbal pithily observed that the $100m UAP Senator Ralph Babet is currently best known for being the first grindbro and sentient thumb elected to parliament, but he has proved a match made in the 19th Century for Holly Hughes as he warned of radical Marxists on the march, his greatest achievement already behind him with his victory having consigned Sophie Mirabella’s husband to the shortest parliamentary career in memory.

But worst of all is the reminder that, however stark the contrast between our shiny new Government and the stinking carcass of the last, similarities remain.

The first of the three circles of the Albanese Government is the simple “Thank God you’re not Scomo” Circle of Relief. It is here we can be grateful that they bothered to pick the low-hanging fruit. We say thank you for the Nadesalingam family visas, for discontinuing the persecution of Bernard Collaery, for having a competent, articulate Front Bench. We’re loving the prospect of ICAC and the commitment to Voice (even if we’re not sure about Shaq and Lidia Thorpe is freaking us out).

In the second Circle lurk the things one suspects Labor would be now inclined to do had they not boxed themselves into a dark damn corner during the campaign. In this Circle of Purgatory Labor must grapple with the consequences of being too scared to argue a case, of rushing to vacate the field and thereby dodge Morrison’s always over-egged political skills, and his Dark Art of the Wedge. The Government must now live with its cowardice, as, alas, must we. This is the “can we go higher than 43% please?””, the “what is it with the Stage Three tax cuts?”, and the “for fuck’s sake raise Jobseeker already” Circle. It’s where expensive but worthy policy initiatives raised at the Job Summit aren’t met with the reassuring pre-election mantra of “investment not debt” but an incredulously intoned “A trillion dollars!”, and a dismissive wave of the hand. It seems even now, we can’t have nice things.

And finally we hit the Circle of Déjà vu, a shockingly familiar place wherein lies the genuine inability of both Labor and the Coalition to think outside the current square. Julian Assange languishes here, where, despite early hope, the Government’s intention is only to negotiate a post-US conviction return to Australia for Julian to serve out his sentence here. Too bad if he’s dead before then. It’s where the Government puts out press releases claiming a twice yearly automatic indexation increase for welfare recipients that is less than CPI is, rather than an abandonment of our most vulnerable, something worth boasting about. It is from this Circle that the Labor Leadership Circle sets off down the well-trod path to News Corp’s Holt St HQ, in obeisance, without explanation.

And it’s where the new Government fails to come to grips with the climate crisis we face. This is the “yes we will open up 47,000 hectares for new oil and gas exploration across 10 new ocean sites” Circle and where the discredited but unkillable fossil fuel industry’s PR ruse that is Carbon Capture and Storage is promoted as having “a vital role to play to help Australia meet its net zero targets.“. It’s the “we daren’t implement a Resources Rent tax, or even a Super Profits Tax because – post the rolling of Rudd – we don’t do that Down Under, even if they’ve been levied enthusiastically across the world”. It’s the Circle that means the same specious arguments that dropped from the smirking mouth of the old Prime Minister are earnestly mounted by the new one – our fossil fuel exports should not be included in our emissions output accounting and are justified via the drug dealers’ excuse of choice: “If we don’t sell it, someone else will anyway, and their gear will be riskier than our healthy brand of heroin.”

With one third of the habitable land in Pakistan currently submerged and 6.5m people displaced, with China facing record-breaking heatwaves and droughts, with the British finally getting sunburnt in their own country with a run of 40 degree days that would do Adelaide proud turning river beds into dustbowls, with wildfires raging across Europe, with things moving way past warnings into all-out calamity, global Government subsidies to the fossil fuel industries that are killing it financially and killing us incrementally are actually increasing – doubled in one year, according to the OECD. Vastly lucrative businesses are being paid by taxpayers around the world to generate increased carbon pollution and sky-rocketing private profits, including here in Australia.

The first 100 Days have been decidedly mixed. Let’s keep our eye on the next and the next and the next. Rome may not have been built in 100 days but it burned to the ground in six.

Oh, FFS, does anyone ever fact check these diatribes?

with the British finally getting sunburnt in their own country with a run of 40 degree days that would do Adelaide

How anyone can read that and not go “WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?” is sort of beyond me.

You’re a harsh marker.

Then again so is the author, apparently.

dv said:

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

The verdict on “Albo’s” first 100 Days

by Jo Dyer

The Shot

Some described it as a great sigh of relief – the national exhalation of a breath we’d grown accustomed to holding. Others spoke of a weight lifted from our collective shoulders: we could walk freely again, stretching out carefully as the stoop straightened.

The wave of euphoria that flowed across the country on election night and its immediate aftermath was reflected in the enthusiasm even Labor doubters had for the incoming Government and its authentic workaday leader.

There goes Albo, off to the Quad, laughing with world leaders – look! Uncle Joe has his name at the ready! As Biden jokes about Albo’s post-election stamina, the fairweather media were impressed by his ease on the world stage, the newest addition to an awesome foursome spruiking shared democratic values, Modi’s latest lurch into what Arundhati Roy describes as a “criminal Hindu-fascist enterprise”, as ever, politely ignored.

And yes, that is Albo riding bamboo bikes with his next BFF Jokowi and delivering beautiful speeches that celebrated the pre-Invasion trade between his Makassan audience’s ancestors and those of the Yolgnu people of Arnhemland. As Katharine Murphy reported at the time: “(Albo) told his Indonesian audience that each December the Yolngu people would look to the sea, “waiting for the horizon to fill with the sails of Makassan vessels”. He said these journeys were now immortalised in northern Australia in rock art and on bark – Makassan “sails forever full with the wind that brought them across the sea”.

The fishers from Sulawesi were, Albo said, the first Muslims to visit Australia, “writing the first chapter in the story of all that Muslim people have contributed to our nation”, a story that continues, he noted, with Australia’s first Muslim Cabinet Minister being sworn in with the Koran just days before. Ed Husic stood to take a bow.

The dejected Opposition tried to score points by painting the Prime Minister as a jet-setting holidaymaker but their hearts weren’t in it even before it was pointed out that venturing on to the war-torn streets of Kyiv with everyone’s favourite ex-comedian Volodymyr Zelenskyy is not quite the same as skiving off to Hawaii with Jenny and the Girls TM while Australia combusts. Maybe the trip to Paris wasn’t entirely honourably motivated but Emmanuelle and Albo’s bond, born of a shared delight at the Scott-bashing headlines that swept the world following those five words – “I don’t think, I know”.

So it was with full hearts that we tuned in to the first day of the new parliament in all its colourful glory. In the ceremony beforehand, Paul Girrawah House, speaking in English and the language of his ancestors asked the gathered politicians and dignitaries, grouped in vague hierarchies, new Ministers sitting comfortably at the front, newbies and wannabes and never-will-bes standing awkwardly to the side and the back, to respect the law of Ngambri country: “Give honour, be respectful, be polite”, he said, as he noted the great First Nations leaders who had contributed so much to their own emancipation, who had maintained the integrity of their ancient connection to Country in the face of “relentless forces to extinguish us by successive generations of colonisers”.

“Be gentle and patient with all. Hold fast to each other, empower the people”, he said. “Respect shapes us. Lifts up the people.”

Albo threw out his written speech to respond directly to Paul, promoting the Uluru Statement from the Heart in words stern and reflective, simultaneously an exhortation and warning. “Don’t miss the chance”, he said. “You’re not here for that long – none of us will be”, the camera ranging over Bob Katter in an ill-timed cameo. “When you’re sitting on the porch, thinking about what you did, you can either have a source of pride or a source of regret. No middle path”. His voice wobbled. “No middle path”, he repeated. “Make it a source of pride.”

As the day went on even Zoe cracked a smile as the welter of Independent Alpha Females were sworn in en masse. There’s Dr Mon, a few days away from her adroit admonition of a braying Opposition benches that were childishly maskless, devastatingly denuded. Dai Le is there in a buttercup ào dài – significantly more attractive than the Australian flag ensemble she sported this week, and a sunnier time for her generally prior to the decision to squib her first major vote and abstain from the Government’s Climate Bill with an odd insistence that the crash of the tree logged in the forest bringing global climate disaster goes unheard in urban Fairfield.

There were a blaze of excellent debut speeches (“maiden speech” out of favour since the 90s). Sally Sitou gave hers on the 40th anniversary of her Chinese born parents becoming Australian citizens as they watched on with pride. In a vibrant red saree, Zaneta Mascarenhas spoke proudly of her Goan Indian heritage as she joined Mehreen Faruqi and Karen Andrews in the modest cohort of engineers in federal parliament. We’ve yet to hear from Sam Lim but are primed for his next bout of whimsy, whether dolphin-related or not. Stephen Bates morphed into a local AOC as he hung on to his retail job until his first pay cleared. Max Chandler-Mather was berated by a negligibly known National for failing to wear a tie.

The novelty of it all was exhilarating.

Less admirable but thoroughly enjoyable is the glee that there may finally be consequences for some of the more egregious behaviours of the last few years. How edifying it is to watch those accustomed to hiding their multitude of sins behind walls of power suddenly unable to stop the march of justice. As the US Department of Justice edges inexorably closer to indicting Trump for his illegal collection of classified documents, as Johnson’s Lap of Loss finally concludes, as it’s possible that even the mighty Murdochs may face a reckoning or two as fallout from Fox News’ promotion of the Big Lie hits the courts on two continents, we rejoice in the fact that there’s nothing Old Man Morrison can do to stop Virginia Bell exploring his claim that the more power, the more Ministries he concentrated in his own grasping hands, the better it would be for the nation.

Tired tropes remain, of course. Pauline Hanson, fresh from her heart-stoppingly narrow victory over the weed party, despite the latter’s on brand relaxed campaign, is struggling for relevance, so stormed angrily out of the Senate to protest an Acknowledgement of Country that had been in place for years. Soaliha Iqbal pithily observed that the $100m UAP Senator Ralph Babet is currently best known for being the first grindbro and sentient thumb elected to parliament, but he has proved a match made in the 19th Century for Holly Hughes as he warned of radical Marxists on the march, his greatest achievement already behind him with his victory having consigned Sophie Mirabella’s husband to the shortest parliamentary career in memory.

But worst of all is the reminder that, however stark the contrast between our shiny new Government and the stinking carcass of the last, similarities remain.

The first of the three circles of the Albanese Government is the simple “Thank God you’re not Scomo” Circle of Relief. It is here we can be grateful that they bothered to pick the low-hanging fruit. We say thank you for the Nadesalingam family visas, for discontinuing the persecution of Bernard Collaery, for having a competent, articulate Front Bench. We’re loving the prospect of ICAC and the commitment to Voice (even if we’re not sure about Shaq and Lidia Thorpe is freaking us out).

In the second Circle lurk the things one suspects Labor would be now inclined to do had they not boxed themselves into a dark damn corner during the campaign. In this Circle of Purgatory Labor must grapple with the consequences of being too scared to argue a case, of rushing to vacate the field and thereby dodge Morrison’s always over-egged political skills, and his Dark Art of the Wedge. The Government must now live with its cowardice, as, alas, must we. This is the “can we go higher than 43% please?””, the “what is it with the Stage Three tax cuts?”, and the “for fuck’s sake raise Jobseeker already” Circle. It’s where expensive but worthy policy initiatives raised at the Job Summit aren’t met with the reassuring pre-election mantra of “investment not debt” but an incredulously intoned “A trillion dollars!”, and a dismissive wave of the hand. It seems even now, we can’t have nice things.

And finally we hit the Circle of Déjà vu, a shockingly familiar place wherein lies the genuine inability of both Labor and the Coalition to think outside the current square. Julian Assange languishes here, where, despite early hope, the Government’s intention is only to negotiate a post-US conviction return to Australia for Julian to serve out his sentence here. Too bad if he’s dead before then. It’s where the Government puts out press releases claiming a twice yearly automatic indexation increase for welfare recipients that is less than CPI is, rather than an abandonment of our most vulnerable, something worth boasting about. It is from this Circle that the Labor Leadership Circle sets off down the well-trod path to News Corp’s Holt St HQ, in obeisance, without explanation.

And it’s where the new Government fails to come to grips with the climate crisis we face. This is the “yes we will open up 47,000 hectares for new oil and gas exploration across 10 new ocean sites” Circle and where the discredited but unkillable fossil fuel industry’s PR ruse that is Carbon Capture and Storage is promoted as having “a vital role to play to help Australia meet its net zero targets.“. It’s the “we daren’t implement a Resources Rent tax, or even a Super Profits Tax because – post the rolling of Rudd – we don’t do that Down Under, even if they’ve been levied enthusiastically across the world”. It’s the Circle that means the same specious arguments that dropped from the smirking mouth of the old Prime Minister are earnestly mounted by the new one – our fossil fuel exports should not be included in our emissions output accounting and are justified via the drug dealers’ excuse of choice: “If we don’t sell it, someone else will anyway, and their gear will be riskier than our healthy brand of heroin.”

With one third of the habitable land in Pakistan currently submerged and 6.5m people displaced, with China facing record-breaking heatwaves and droughts, with the British finally getting sunburnt in their own country with a run of 40 degree days that would do Adelaide proud turning river beds into dustbowls, with wildfires raging across Europe, with things moving way past warnings into all-out calamity, global Government subsidies to the fossil fuel industries that are killing it financially and killing us incrementally are actually increasing – doubled in one year, according to the OECD. Vastly lucrative businesses are being paid by taxpayers around the world to generate increased carbon pollution and sky-rocketing private profits, including here in Australia.

The first 100 Days have been decidedly mixed. Let’s keep our eye on the next and the next and the next. Rome may not have been built in 100 days but it burned to the ground in six.

Oh, FFS, does anyone ever fact check these diatribes?

with the British finally getting sunburnt in their own country with a run of 40 degree days that would do Adelaide

How anyone can read that and not go “WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?” is sort of beyond me.

You’re a harsh marker.

Then again so is the author, apparently.

She’s a die-hard “Blake’s 7” fan, apparently.

dv said:

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

The verdict on “Albo’s” first 100 Days

by Jo Dyer

The Shot

Some described it as a great sigh of relief – the national exhalation of a breath we’d grown accustomed to holding. Others spoke of a weight lifted from our collective shoulders: we could walk freely again, stretching out carefully as the stoop straightened.

The wave of euphoria that flowed across the country on election night and its immediate aftermath was reflected in the enthusiasm even Labor doubters had for the incoming Government and its authentic workaday leader.

There goes Albo, off to the Quad, laughing with world leaders – look! Uncle Joe has his name at the ready! As Biden jokes about Albo’s post-election stamina, the fairweather media were impressed by his ease on the world stage, the newest addition to an awesome foursome spruiking shared democratic values, Modi’s latest lurch into what Arundhati Roy describes as a “criminal Hindu-fascist enterprise”, as ever, politely ignored.

And yes, that is Albo riding bamboo bikes with his next BFF Jokowi and delivering beautiful speeches that celebrated the pre-Invasion trade between his Makassan audience’s ancestors and those of the Yolgnu people of Arnhemland. As Katharine Murphy reported at the time: “(Albo) told his Indonesian audience that each December the Yolngu people would look to the sea, “waiting for the horizon to fill with the sails of Makassan vessels”. He said these journeys were now immortalised in northern Australia in rock art and on bark – Makassan “sails forever full with the wind that brought them across the sea”.

The fishers from Sulawesi were, Albo said, the first Muslims to visit Australia, “writing the first chapter in the story of all that Muslim people have contributed to our nation”, a story that continues, he noted, with Australia’s first Muslim Cabinet Minister being sworn in with the Koran just days before. Ed Husic stood to take a bow.

The dejected Opposition tried to score points by painting the Prime Minister as a jet-setting holidaymaker but their hearts weren’t in it even before it was pointed out that venturing on to the war-torn streets of Kyiv with everyone’s favourite ex-comedian Volodymyr Zelenskyy is not quite the same as skiving off to Hawaii with Jenny and the Girls TM while Australia combusts. Maybe the trip to Paris wasn’t entirely honourably motivated but Emmanuelle and Albo’s bond, born of a shared delight at the Scott-bashing headlines that swept the world following those five words – “I don’t think, I know”.

So it was with full hearts that we tuned in to the first day of the new parliament in all its colourful glory. In the ceremony beforehand, Paul Girrawah House, speaking in English and the language of his ancestors asked the gathered politicians and dignitaries, grouped in vague hierarchies, new Ministers sitting comfortably at the front, newbies and wannabes and never-will-bes standing awkwardly to the side and the back, to respect the law of Ngambri country: “Give honour, be respectful, be polite”, he said, as he noted the great First Nations leaders who had contributed so much to their own emancipation, who had maintained the integrity of their ancient connection to Country in the face of “relentless forces to extinguish us by successive generations of colonisers”.

“Be gentle and patient with all. Hold fast to each other, empower the people”, he said. “Respect shapes us. Lifts up the people.”

Albo threw out his written speech to respond directly to Paul, promoting the Uluru Statement from the Heart in words stern and reflective, simultaneously an exhortation and warning. “Don’t miss the chance”, he said. “You’re not here for that long – none of us will be”, the camera ranging over Bob Katter in an ill-timed cameo. “When you’re sitting on the porch, thinking about what you did, you can either have a source of pride or a source of regret. No middle path”. His voice wobbled. “No middle path”, he repeated. “Make it a source of pride.”

As the day went on even Zoe cracked a smile as the welter of Independent Alpha Females were sworn in en masse. There’s Dr Mon, a few days away from her adroit admonition of a braying Opposition benches that were childishly maskless, devastatingly denuded. Dai Le is there in a buttercup ào dài – significantly more attractive than the Australian flag ensemble she sported this week, and a sunnier time for her generally prior to the decision to squib her first major vote and abstain from the Government’s Climate Bill with an odd insistence that the crash of the tree logged in the forest bringing global climate disaster goes unheard in urban Fairfield.

There were a blaze of excellent debut speeches (“maiden speech” out of favour since the 90s). Sally Sitou gave hers on the 40th anniversary of her Chinese born parents becoming Australian citizens as they watched on with pride. In a vibrant red saree, Zaneta Mascarenhas spoke proudly of her Goan Indian heritage as she joined Mehreen Faruqi and Karen Andrews in the modest cohort of engineers in federal parliament. We’ve yet to hear from Sam Lim but are primed for his next bout of whimsy, whether dolphin-related or not. Stephen Bates morphed into a local AOC as he hung on to his retail job until his first pay cleared. Max Chandler-Mather was berated by a negligibly known National for failing to wear a tie.

The novelty of it all was exhilarating.

Less admirable but thoroughly enjoyable is the glee that there may finally be consequences for some of the more egregious behaviours of the last few years. How edifying it is to watch those accustomed to hiding their multitude of sins behind walls of power suddenly unable to stop the march of justice. As the US Department of Justice edges inexorably closer to indicting Trump for his illegal collection of classified documents, as Johnson’s Lap of Loss finally concludes, as it’s possible that even the mighty Murdochs may face a reckoning or two as fallout from Fox News’ promotion of the Big Lie hits the courts on two continents, we rejoice in the fact that there’s nothing Old Man Morrison can do to stop Virginia Bell exploring his claim that the more power, the more Ministries he concentrated in his own grasping hands, the better it would be for the nation.

Tired tropes remain, of course. Pauline Hanson, fresh from her heart-stoppingly narrow victory over the weed party, despite the latter’s on brand relaxed campaign, is struggling for relevance, so stormed angrily out of the Senate to protest an Acknowledgement of Country that had been in place for years. Soaliha Iqbal pithily observed that the $100m UAP Senator Ralph Babet is currently best known for being the first grindbro and sentient thumb elected to parliament, but he has proved a match made in the 19th Century for Holly Hughes as he warned of radical Marxists on the march, his greatest achievement already behind him with his victory having consigned Sophie Mirabella’s husband to the shortest parliamentary career in memory.

But worst of all is the reminder that, however stark the contrast between our shiny new Government and the stinking carcass of the last, similarities remain.

The first of the three circles of the Albanese Government is the simple “Thank God you’re not Scomo” Circle of Relief. It is here we can be grateful that they bothered to pick the low-hanging fruit. We say thank you for the Nadesalingam family visas, for discontinuing the persecution of Bernard Collaery, for having a competent, articulate Front Bench. We’re loving the prospect of ICAC and the commitment to Voice (even if we’re not sure about Shaq and Lidia Thorpe is freaking us out).

In the second Circle lurk the things one suspects Labor would be now inclined to do had they not boxed themselves into a dark damn corner during the campaign. In this Circle of Purgatory Labor must grapple with the consequences of being too scared to argue a case, of rushing to vacate the field and thereby dodge Morrison’s always over-egged political skills, and his Dark Art of the Wedge. The Government must now live with its cowardice, as, alas, must we. This is the “can we go higher than 43% please?””, the “what is it with the Stage Three tax cuts?”, and the “for fuck’s sake raise Jobseeker already” Circle. It’s where expensive but worthy policy initiatives raised at the Job Summit aren’t met with the reassuring pre-election mantra of “investment not debt” but an incredulously intoned “A trillion dollars!”, and a dismissive wave of the hand. It seems even now, we can’t have nice things.

And finally we hit the Circle of Déjà vu, a shockingly familiar place wherein lies the genuine inability of both Labor and the Coalition to think outside the current square. Julian Assange languishes here, where, despite early hope, the Government’s intention is only to negotiate a post-US conviction return to Australia for Julian to serve out his sentence here. Too bad if he’s dead before then. It’s where the Government puts out press releases claiming a twice yearly automatic indexation increase for welfare recipients that is less than CPI is, rather than an abandonment of our most vulnerable, something worth boasting about. It is from this Circle that the Labor Leadership Circle sets off down the well-trod path to News Corp’s Holt St HQ, in obeisance, without explanation.

And it’s where the new Government fails to come to grips with the climate crisis we face. This is the “yes we will open up 47,000 hectares for new oil and gas exploration across 10 new ocean sites” Circle and where the discredited but unkillable fossil fuel industry’s PR ruse that is Carbon Capture and Storage is promoted as having “a vital role to play to help Australia meet its net zero targets.“. It’s the “we daren’t implement a Resources Rent tax, or even a Super Profits Tax because – post the rolling of Rudd – we don’t do that Down Under, even if they’ve been levied enthusiastically across the world”. It’s the Circle that means the same specious arguments that dropped from the smirking mouth of the old Prime Minister are earnestly mounted by the new one – our fossil fuel exports should not be included in our emissions output accounting and are justified via the drug dealers’ excuse of choice: “If we don’t sell it, someone else will anyway, and their gear will be riskier than our healthy brand of heroin.”

With one third of the habitable land in Pakistan currently submerged and 6.5m people displaced, with China facing record-breaking heatwaves and droughts, with the British finally getting sunburnt in their own country with a run of 40 degree days that would do Adelaide proud turning river beds into dustbowls, with wildfires raging across Europe, with things moving way past warnings into all-out calamity, global Government subsidies to the fossil fuel industries that are killing it financially and killing us incrementally are actually increasing – doubled in one year, according to the OECD. Vastly lucrative businesses are being paid by taxpayers around the world to generate increased carbon pollution and sky-rocketing private profits, including here in Australia.

The first 100 Days have been decidedly mixed. Let’s keep our eye on the next and the next and the next. Rome may not have been built in 100 days but it burned to the ground in six.

Oh, FFS, does anyone ever fact check these diatribes?

with the British finally getting sunburnt in their own country with a run of 40 degree days that would do Adelaide

How anyone can read that and not go “WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?” is sort of beyond me.

You’re a harsh marker.

Then again so is the author, apparently.

Jo Dyer is from adelaide so I guess she was talking about how hot it gets there sometimes. plus a lot of articles from the shot have hyperbole for comedic purposes. that’s why i like them.

ChrispenEvan said:

dv said:

sibeen said:

Oh, FFS, does anyone ever fact check these diatribes?

with the British finally getting sunburnt in their own country with a run of 40 degree days that would do Adelaide

How anyone can read that and not go “WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?” is sort of beyond me.

You’re a harsh marker.

Then again so is the author, apparently.

Jo Dyer is from adelaide so I guess she was talking about how hot it gets there sometimes. plus a lot of articles from the shot have hyperbole for comedic purposes. that’s why i like them.

:)

ChrispenEvan said:

dv said:

sibeen said:

Oh, FFS, does anyone ever fact check these diatribes?

with the British finally getting sunburnt in their own country with a run of 40 degree days that would do Adelaide

How anyone can read that and not go “WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?” is sort of beyond me.

You’re a harsh marker.

Then again so is the author, apparently.

Jo Dyer is from adelaide so I guess she was talking about how hot it gets there sometimes. plus a lot of articles from the shot have hyperbole for comedic purposes. that’s why i like them.

There were many things about that article that I didn’t think much of, but the quoted passage wasn’t one of them. It has been unusually hot in the UK (and the rest of Europe).

I was quickly writing an email and one sentence started with “I fucking hate grenache…”

Windows underlined the F part, and I thought it was being prudish but clicking on the suggestion and it was “am fucking”. It was wrong but at least the censors are not in play.

sibeen said:

I was quickly writing an email and one sentence started with “I fucking hate grenache…”

Windows underlined the F part, and I thought it was being prudish but clicking on the suggestion and it was “am fucking”. It was wrong but at least the censors are not in play.

They are cracking down pretty hard now on past particles and stuff.

sibeen said:

I was quickly writing an email and one sentence started with “I fucking hate grenache…”

Windows underlined the F part, and I thought it was being prudish but clicking on the suggestion and it was “am fucking”. It was wrong but at least the censors are not in play.

;)

Peak Warming Man said:

sibeen said:

I was quickly writing an email and one sentence started with “I fucking hate grenache…”

Windows underlined the F part, and I thought it was being prudish but clicking on the suggestion and it was “am fucking”. It was wrong but at least the censors are not in play.

They are cracking down pretty hard now on past particles and stuff.

Would a lepton be a past particle?

https://theconversation.com/australians-on-unemployment-benefits-are-set-for-two-record-paydays-but-its-a-sign-of-a-broken-system-long-overdue-for-a-fix-189954

Link

https://michaelwest.com.au/all-caretaker-no-responsibility-how-a-dying-government-slipped-freebies-to-its-mates/

Link

ChrispenEvan said:

https://michaelwest.com.au/all-caretaker-no-responsibility-how-a-dying-government-slipped-freebies-to-its-mates/

Link

Hmmm.

not the answer to everything

For the sake of good governance, it is of little use if the sovereign appoints a person to a position of authority but does not at the same time inform those over whom such authority is to be exercised of the validity of the appointment.

It’s a simple argument really, when the people you want to be your enemies start engaging with your media, it means you should start preparing for war¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-12/china-western-media-war-taiwan-new-confidence/101423200

yet another New China in the Australian Wild West there

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-12/wittenoom-evicition-lands-minister-lacked-compassion/101427348

government overrides freedoms to protect health oh god

LOL got a bit sensitive about the looking lazy eh

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-12/parliament-to-resume-after-queen-memorial-mourning-day/101429194

LOL

Mr Albanese rejected claims surgeries would be cancelled because of the public holiday. “The idea that operations don’t occur during a public holiday is of course not correct. Medical procedures, of course, are always a priority.”

whatever this dude is on

SCIENCE said:

LOL

Mr Albanese rejected claims surgeries would be cancelled because of the public holiday. “The idea that operations don’t occur during a public holiday is of course not correct. Medical procedures, of course, are always a priority.”

whatever this dude is on

So surgeons are telling fibs?

SCIENCE said:

LOL

Mr Albanese rejected claims surgeries would be cancelled because of the public holiday. “The idea that operations don’t occur during a public holiday is of course not correct. Medical procedures, of course, are always a priority.”

whatever this dude is on

My experience of 20 year: You tell a doctor he/she doesn’t ‘have to’ do something = they don’t do it.

Bubblecar said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

Mr Albanese rejected claims surgeries would be cancelled because of the public holiday. “The idea that operations don’t occur during a public holiday is of course not correct. Medical procedures, of course, are always a priority.”

whatever this dude is on

So surgeons are telling fibs?

we mean surely they still do surgery if you’re brain is bleeding right

but also pretty sure most electives didn’t happen on other public holidays

hell at least the dude could have blamed it on the queen like “well we can’t predict when these old farts will die, it’s not our fault that we had to load up a surprise public holiday, look what you made us do” Marketing would have done no less

SCIENCE said:

do surgery if you’re brain is

we blame the queen slash the brain bleeding damn

your

1 hr ·
The 20th Anniversary of the first Green ever to be elected to the Australian Federal Parliament in the Cunningham by-election in 2002. Michael Organ was a fantastic candidate and the Illawarra Greens ran a very community based strategic campaign.

Makes sense. Government is hard, Opposition’s where it’s at.

dv said:

Makes sense. Government is hard, Opposition’s where it’s at.

Who wouldn’t want a job jeering and making smart arse remarks

Cymek said:

dv said:

Makes sense. Government is hard, Opposition’s where it’s at.

Who wouldn’t want a job jeering and making smart arse remarks

Wait…some people get paid to do that?

And, here i am,doing it for free, like a putz!

The Economy Must Grow ¡

But with the state government gaining hundreds of millions in tax revenue per year, from casino operators like The Star, some fear the penalties will not send a clear message.

Independent MP Andrew Wilkie has called for a national casino regulator that works closely with federal bodies like Australian Transaction Reports and Analysis Centre (AUSTRAC) and the Australian Federal Police (AFP).

“There’s just going to be some fines, a bit of clean-up and everyone will get on with things because governments, and this is the other layer of the problem, governments are too cosy with these companies,” Mr Wilkie said.

“Governments are too interested in the fact that they are major single site employers that they generate a major amount of tax revenue for state and territory governments.”

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has ruled out imposing tougher national regulations on the country’s two largest casino operators.

“These are state operated regulators and it’s up to the states to respond to that. But quite clearly what we’ve seen is regulators taking strong action and foreshadowing further strong action,” he said today.

SCIENCE said:

The Economy Must Grow ¡

But with the state government gaining hundreds of millions in tax revenue per year, from casino operators like The Star, some fear the penalties will not send a clear message.

Independent MP Andrew Wilkie has called for a national casino regulator that works closely with federal bodies like Australian Transaction Reports and Analysis Centre (AUSTRAC) and the Australian Federal Police (AFP).

“There’s just going to be some fines, a bit of clean-up and everyone will get on with things because governments, and this is the other layer of the problem, governments are too cosy with these companies,” Mr Wilkie said.

“Governments are too interested in the fact that they are major single site employers that they generate a major amount of tax revenue for state and territory governments.”

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has ruled out imposing tougher national regulations on the country’s two largest casino operators.

“These are state operated regulators and it’s up to the states to respond to that. But quite clearly what we’ve seen is regulators taking strong action and foreshadowing further strong action,” he said today.

I’m with wilkie.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/14/queensland-energy-minister-says-renewable-generation-capacity-must-be-tripled-by-2035?CMP=soc_567

Queensland energy minister says renewable generation capacity must be tripled by 2035

Mick de Brenni flags investment in ‘mega pumped-hydroelectric dams in the mountain ranges’, distribution networks and green hydrogen

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/14/queensland-energy-minister-says-renewable-generation-capacity-must-be-tripled-by-2035?CMP=soc_567

Queensland energy minister says renewable generation capacity must be tripled by 2035

Mick de Brenni flags investment in ‘mega pumped-hydroelectric dams in the mountain ranges’, distribution networks and green hydrogen

Grabs popcorn for the ‘mega pumped-hydroelectric dams in the mountain ranges’ shitfight.

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/14/queensland-energy-minister-says-renewable-generation-capacity-must-be-tripled-by-2035?CMP=soc_567

Queensland energy minister says renewable generation capacity must be tripled by 2035

Mick de Brenni flags investment in ‘mega pumped-hydroelectric dams in the mountain ranges’, distribution networks and green hydrogen

as long as they build them on top of the mountains…

sibeen said:

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/14/queensland-energy-minister-says-renewable-generation-capacity-must-be-tripled-by-2035?CMP=soc_567

Queensland energy minister says renewable generation capacity must be tripled by 2035

Mick de Brenni flags investment in ‘mega pumped-hydroelectric dams in the mountain ranges’, distribution networks and green hydrogen

Grabs popcorn for the ‘mega pumped-hydroelectric dams in the mountain ranges’ shitfight.

are you mega pumped for it?

sibeen said:

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/14/queensland-energy-minister-says-renewable-generation-capacity-must-be-tripled-by-2035?CMP=soc_567

Queensland energy minister says renewable generation capacity must be tripled by 2035

Mick de Brenni flags investment in ‘mega pumped-hydroelectric dams in the mountain ranges’, distribution networks and green hydrogen

Grabs popcorn for the ‘mega pumped-hydroelectric dams in the mountain ranges’ shitfight.

Now, now. I think we’ve done that one before…

ChrispenEvan said:

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/14/queensland-energy-minister-says-renewable-generation-capacity-must-be-tripled-by-2035?CMP=soc_567

Queensland energy minister says renewable generation capacity must be tripled by 2035

Mick de Brenni flags investment in ‘mega pumped-hydroelectric dams in the mountain ranges’, distribution networks and green hydrogen

as long as they build them on top of the mountains…

I think this is a tad optimistic, but even if a fraction of the sites are viable there’s plenty for us here.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-21/pumped-hydro-renewable-energy-sites-australia-anu-research/8966530

I also spotted a chap on Facepalm who claimed that pumped hydro was NFG because “they have to pump the water uphill first”.
Sigh …..

ChrispenEvan said:

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/14/queensland-energy-minister-says-renewable-generation-capacity-must-be-tripled-by-2035?CMP=soc_567

Queensland energy minister says renewable generation capacity must be tripled by 2035

Mick de Brenni flags investment in ‘mega pumped-hydroelectric dams in the mountain ranges’, distribution networks and green hydrogen

as long as they build them on top of the mountains…

I still don’t get your point on this? For the pumped storage to work you need to have a reservoir of water high up.

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/14/queensland-energy-minister-says-renewable-generation-capacity-must-be-tripled-by-2035?CMP=soc_567

Queensland energy minister says renewable generation capacity must be tripled by 2035

Mick de Brenni flags investment in ‘mega pumped-hydroelectric dams in the mountain ranges’, distribution networks and green hydrogen

as long as they build them on top of the mountains…

I still don’t get your point on this? For the pumped storage to work you need to have a reservoir of water high up.

You need to maximise mass x height difference, and minimise cost, so high valleys between mountains seem like a better option to me.

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

as long as they build them on top of the mountains…

I still don’t get your point on this? For the pumped storage to work you need to have a reservoir of water high up.

You need to maximise mass x height difference, and minimise cost, so high valleys between mountains seem like a better option to me.

Yes, but the last time we went through this Boris pointed out that you don’t fill dams on top of mountains but down in the valleys. Which I entirely agree with, but for pumped hydro to work you do need to build storge for the water on top of the mountain. My basic point of the discussion was that in many cases as soon as you propose this, protests will begin.

sibeen said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

I still don’t get your point on this? For the pumped storage to work you need to have a reservoir of water high up.

You need to maximise mass x height difference, and minimise cost, so high valleys between mountains seem like a better option to me.

Yes, but the last time we went through this Boris pointed out that you don’t fill dams on top of mountains but down in the valleys. Which I entirely agree with, but for pumped hydro to work you do need to build storge for the water on top of the mountain. My basic point of the discussion was that in many cases as soon as you propose this, protests will begin.

people eh?

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

as long as they build them on top of the mountains…

I still don’t get your point on this? For the pumped storage to work you need to have a reservoir of water high up.

You need to maximise mass x height difference, and minimise cost, so high valleys between mountains seem like a better option to me.

Didn’t we have a thread a while back about a new study which reckons there are hundreds of sites all up and down the Great Dividing Range with a head of 300m. I was surprised there were so many.

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

I still don’t get your point on this? For the pumped storage to work you need to have a reservoir of water high up.

You need to maximise mass x height difference, and minimise cost, so high valleys between mountains seem like a better option to me.

Didn’t we have a thread a while back about a new study which reckons there are hundreds of sites all up and down the Great Dividing Range with a head of 300m. I was surprised there were so many.

just try getting those unwashed hippie greenie pinko commos to not protest. good luck.

ChrispenEvan said:

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

You need to maximise mass x height difference, and minimise cost, so high valleys between mountains seem like a better option to me.

Didn’t we have a thread a while back about a new study which reckons there are hundreds of sites all up and down the Great Dividing Range with a head of 300m. I was surprised there were so many.

just try getting those unwashed hippie greenie pinko commos to not protest. good luck.

So anyway, when tis Snowy Mountains work is finally finished, how much of the required storage for E Australia will that provide?

ChrispenEvan said:

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

You need to maximise mass x height difference, and minimise cost, so high valleys between mountains seem like a better option to me.

Didn’t we have a thread a while back about a new study which reckons there are hundreds of sites all up and down the Great Dividing Range with a head of 300m. I was surprised there were so many.

just try getting those unwashed hippie greenie pinko commos to not protest. good luck.

Tell ‘em it is either pumped hydro in the mountains, or nuclear reactors in their suburb.

party_pants said:

ChrispenEvan said:

party_pants said:

Didn’t we have a thread a while back about a new study which reckons there are hundreds of sites all up and down the Great Dividing Range with a head of 300m. I was surprised there were so many.

just try getting those unwashed hippie greenie pinko commos to not protest. good luck.

Tell ‘em it is either pumped hydro in the mountains, or nuclear reactors in their suburb.

They aren’t in the suburbs…inner city or bush…

buffy said:

party_pants said:

ChrispenEvan said:

just try getting those unwashed hippie greenie pinko commos to not protest. good luck.

Tell ‘em it is either pumped hydro in the mountains, or nuclear reactors in their suburb.

They aren’t in the suburbs…inner city or bush…

We’ll convert that to suburbs first, and then build nuclear plants.

bright new idea why not use a really really big nuclear reactor to pump that hydro right up high in the atmosphere and then when it falls back down it can help produce biofuel as well as drive turbines set into river courses

SCIENCE said:

bright new idea why not use a really really big nuclear reactor to pump that hydro right up high in the atmosphere and then when it falls back down it can help produce biofuel as well as drive turbines set into river courses

I’d use solar panels.

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

bright new idea why not use a really really big nuclear reactor to pump that hydro right up high in the atmosphere and then when it falls back down it can help produce biofuel as well as drive turbines set into river courses

I’d use solar panels.

How about using a small nuclear reactor to power the homes directly?

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

bright new idea why not use a really really big nuclear reactor to pump that hydro right up high in the atmosphere and then when it falls back down it can help produce biofuel as well as drive turbines set into river courses

I’d use solar panels.

yeah, but you’re an unwashed hippie greenie pinko commo…

Victorian Hansard was amended to erase Matthew Guy’s King Arthur comments. Why though? If member is a daft twat, shouldn’t Hansard reflect that?

dv said:

Victorian Hansard was amended to erase Matthew Guy’s King Arthur comments. Why though? If member is a daft twat, shouldn’t Hansard reflect that?

‘ “Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past,” repeated Winston obediently. “Who controls the present controls the past,” said O’Brien, nodding his head with slow approval. ‘Is it your opinion, Winston, that the past has real existence?’

dv said:

Victorian Hansard was amended to erase Matthew Guy’s King Arthur comments. Why though? If member is a daft twat, shouldn’t Hansard reflect that?

If it is perceived as an accurate record then yes.

when the costs are high but you just have to do your duty

https://www.pm.gov.au/media/radio-interview-abc-radio-sydney

ABC News:

‘Leaked document shows Australian officials ‘kept in dark’ about French submarine cancellation’

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-16/leaked-document-officials-kept-in-dark-over-french-submarines/101445670

Just more evidence that Morrison’s government operated a facade that was presented to the public, and a shadow government that sneaked around in the background, doing things in secret.

Government by lies, deceit, duplicity and graft.

oh remember how CHINA and Germany and all those other shithole countries are running out of coal ahahahahahahaha

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-17/power-supply-fears-as-wa-runs-out-of-coal/101449628

ahahahahahaha oh wait what the fuck

Independent senator Jacqui Lambie has accused Labor of betraying its values by proceeding with the planned stage three tax cuts while refusing to lift the JobSeeker payment, and urged “lazy voters” to blow up the major party system by deliberately voting against sitting MPs.

Lambie, who holds a crucial swing vote in the upper house, doubled down on her criticism of the tax cuts for high-income earners – which she voted for in 2019 – and accused the federal government of hypocrisy for pleading that budget constraints precluded increasing the jobless allowance.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/lambie-shames-labor-over-tax-cuts-tells-lazy-voters-to-blow-up-system-20220917-p5biux.html

NW Central by election was today. As expected, the Nats have retained the seat easily.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2022/09/19/queensland-land-tax-initiative/

Link

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-19/nt-beetaloo-origin-divestment/101453094

We warned you, now he has a deathstar.

dv said:

We warned you, now he has a deathstar.

It took me a second to work out what was going on there.

sibeen said:

dv said:

We warned you, now he has a deathstar.

It took me a second to work out what was going on there.

I still don’t even know

dv said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

We warned you, now he has a deathstar.

It took me a second to work out what was going on there.

I still don’t even know

They are railway crossings. I drove over one of them about an hour ago.

sibeen said:

dv said:

We warned you, now he has a deathstar.

It took me a second to work out what was going on there.

sibeen said:

dv said:

sibeen said:

It took me a second to work out what was going on there.

I still don’t even know

They are railway crossings. I drove over one of them about an hour ago.

so you mean he’s like a fucking NSW rail workers union thing and he’s going to stop the trains, stop them from crossing any roads, damn

sibeen said:

dv said:

We warned you, now he has a deathstar.

It took me a second to work out what was going on there.

I haven’t, so could you share your insight, please?

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

We warned you, now he has a deathstar.

It took me a second to work out what was going on there.

I haven’t, so could you share your insight, please?

Thanks.

Scott Morrison’s secretive cabinet committee of one permanent member appears to have met hundreds of times in the last term of parliament, documents released under freedom of information have revealed.

The cabinet office policy committee (COPC) – of which Morrison was listed as the only permanent member – created 739 sets of minutes from meetings, the information released by the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet (PMC) showed.

It has sparked fresh warnings from the former senator Rex Patrick that the body was an “abuse of process”, and prompted calls to release its documents, or to expand the inquiry into Morrison’s multiple ministries, as proposed by the Greens.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/21/scott-morrisons-secretive-cabinet-committee-of-one-had-hundreds-of-meetings-foi-documents-suggest?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-3

(Scratches head)

dv said:

Scott Morrison’s secretive cabinet committee of one permanent member appears to have met hundreds of times in the last term of parliament, documents released under freedom of information have revealed.

The cabinet office policy committee (COPC) – of which Morrison was listed as the only permanent member – created 739 sets of minutes from meetings, the information released by the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet (PMC) showed.

It has sparked fresh warnings from the former senator Rex Patrick that the body was an “abuse of process”, and prompted calls to release its documents, or to expand the inquiry into Morrison’s multiple ministries, as proposed by the Greens.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/21/scott-morrisons-secretive-cabinet-committee-of-one-had-hundreds-of-meetings-foi-documents-suggest?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-3

(Scratches head)

I thought an enquiry would be a good idea until I saw it was a Green proposal.

Tamb said:

dv said:

Scott Morrison’s secretive cabinet committee of one permanent member appears to have met hundreds of times in the last term of parliament, documents released under freedom of information have revealed.

The cabinet office policy committee (COPC) – of which Morrison was listed as the only permanent member – created 739 sets of minutes from meetings, the information released by the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet (PMC) showed.

It has sparked fresh warnings from the former senator Rex Patrick that the body was an “abuse of process”, and prompted calls to release its documents, or to expand the inquiry into Morrison’s multiple ministries, as proposed by the Greens.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/21/scott-morrisons-secretive-cabinet-committee-of-one-had-hundreds-of-meetings-foi-documents-suggest?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-3

(Scratches head)

I thought an enquiry would be a good idea until I saw it was a Green proposal.

how fucking stupid.

Whistleblower from Ashley Youth Detention Centre still fighting for her workers compensation claim

Ashley Youth Detention Centre whistleblower Alysha says her workers compensation claim is being deliberately stalled by the government.

“I’ve done the state a service and am being destroyed.”

Those are the words of the Ashley Youth Detention Centre whistleblower known as Alysha.

Independent MPs say a workers compensation matter is being weaponised against Alysha by the state despite her pivotal roles in former premier Peter Gutwein’s decision to close the centre and the origins of the Commission of Inquiry’s recent probing of Ashley abuse allegations.

It is understood the state government will appoint external lawyers to the case, removing its carriage from the Solicitor-General’s office.
Alysha on Wednesday said the workers compensation situation meant her young family was in danger of losing its house and the situation was damaging her health and hurting her family.

Asked about the matter on Monday, Premier Jeremy Rockliff said he clearly could not intervene in a workers compensation case and would not.

He was speaking after previous comments from Clark independent MHR Andrew Wilkie were put to him.

Mr Wilkie had said the government was weaponising Alysha’s workers compensation matter against her and it made a mockery of Mr Rockliff’s commitment to stopping institutional child abuse.

Mr Rockliff said he rejected those accusations.

On Wednesday, Mr Wilkie, Nelson independent MLC Meg Webb and Clark independent MHA Kristie Johnston fronted the media to appeal for the Premier’s intervention.

Ms Webb said somebody who exposed failures of government should not be punished through a process that was drawn out and unacceptably punitive.

“We’ve got a whistleblower in this state who has served our community bravely and well in exposing child abuse and is now being put through the wringer on her workers compensation claim with the state going to extreme lengths to make it as difficult as possible for her to have that resolved,” she said.

“What we’d like to see is the Premier step up and ensure that this matter is brought to a close promptly and compassionately.
“While of course, we wouldn’t expect to see political interference in the determination of a workers compensation claim, the Premier and the Attorney General are absolutely responsible for ensuring that the state acts as a model model litigant and that the process is undertaken fairly, compassionately, and appropriately.”

Mr Wilkie said all Alysha wanted was a fair workers compensation outcome so she could move on with her life.
“She is one of the most important witnesses to have appeared at the Commission of Inquiry and her testimony will be some of the most important,” he said.

Alysha said: “Every (Ashley) case study presented by the Commission of Inquiry bar one was based on my reports.”
She said she had had to relive her traumatic time at Ashley during four psychiatric assessments, three of which were ordered by the authorities.

Alysha said the day after she gave evidence at the commission, the Solicitor-General’s office told her lawyers a further evaluation was required.

“They said if I didn’t comply, they would stop paying me entirely,” she said.

“I was having to decide between my health and keeping a roof over the family’s heads.”

The last psychological report they had was 34 pages long.

“They’ve got three very thorough reports in front of them by different doctors,” Alysha said
.
Clark independent MHA Kristie Johnston said the actions by the government amounted to doctor shopping in an attempt to dissuade her from pursuing compensation.

“They are deliberately putting barriers in place, they are dragging it out and they’re causing more trauma upon the trauma she’s already experienced by the witnessing of child abuse,” she said.

“The way the state government has been behaving with Alysha’s matter must surely deter anyone from stepping forward and blowing the whistle on wrongdoing, corruption, child abuse – all those things that ought to be called out.”

Lawyer Angela Sdrinis said in her 40 years of practice in Victorian and federal workers compensation jurisdictions, she had never seen anything like what Alysha had experienced in Tasmania with respect to the medical evaluation process.

Asked about the appointment of external counsel for Alysha’s case, a state government spokesperson said: “It would not be appropriate for the government to comment on individual cases through the media.”

On calls for the Premier to intervene, they said: “It would not be appropriate for the government to intervene in active worker’s compensation claims, as it is important they are treated lawfully and fairly without political interference.”

https://www.examiner.com.au/story/7913633/calls-for-premiers-intervention-on-ashley-compensation-case-rejected

sarahs mum said:

Whistleblower from Ashley Youth Detention Centre still fighting for her workers compensation claim

Ashley Youth Detention Centre whistleblower Alysha says her workers compensation claim is being deliberately stalled by the government.

“I’ve done the state a service and am being destroyed.”

Those are the words of the Ashley Youth Detention Centre whistleblower known as Alysha.

Independent MPs say a workers compensation matter is being weaponised against Alysha by the state despite her pivotal roles in former premier Peter Gutwein’s decision to close the centre and the origins of the Commission of Inquiry’s recent probing of Ashley abuse allegations.

It is understood the state government will appoint external lawyers to the case, removing its carriage from the Solicitor-General’s office.
Alysha on Wednesday said the workers compensation situation meant her young family was in danger of losing its house and the situation was damaging her health and hurting her family.

Asked about the matter on Monday, Premier Jeremy Rockliff said he clearly could not intervene in a workers compensation case and would not.

He was speaking after previous comments from Clark independent MHR Andrew Wilkie were put to him.

Mr Wilkie had said the government was weaponising Alysha’s workers compensation matter against her and it made a mockery of Mr Rockliff’s commitment to stopping institutional child abuse.

Mr Rockliff said he rejected those accusations.

On Wednesday, Mr Wilkie, Nelson independent MLC Meg Webb and Clark independent MHA Kristie Johnston fronted the media to appeal for the Premier’s intervention.

Ms Webb said somebody who exposed failures of government should not be punished through a process that was drawn out and unacceptably punitive.

“We’ve got a whistleblower in this state who has served our community bravely and well in exposing child abuse and is now being put through the wringer on her workers compensation claim with the state going to extreme lengths to make it as difficult as possible for her to have that resolved,” she said.

“What we’d like to see is the Premier step up and ensure that this matter is brought to a close promptly and compassionately.
“While of course, we wouldn’t expect to see political interference in the determination of a workers compensation claim, the Premier and the Attorney General are absolutely responsible for ensuring that the state acts as a model model litigant and that the process is undertaken fairly, compassionately, and appropriately.”

Mr Wilkie said all Alysha wanted was a fair workers compensation outcome so she could move on with her life.
“She is one of the most important witnesses to have appeared at the Commission of Inquiry and her testimony will be some of the most important,” he said.

Alysha said: “Every (Ashley) case study presented by the Commission of Inquiry bar one was based on my reports.”
She said she had had to relive her traumatic time at Ashley during four psychiatric assessments, three of which were ordered by the authorities.

Alysha said the day after she gave evidence at the commission, the Solicitor-General’s office told her lawyers a further evaluation was required.

“They said if I didn’t comply, they would stop paying me entirely,” she said.

“I was having to decide between my health and keeping a roof over the family’s heads.”

The last psychological report they had was 34 pages long.

“They’ve got three very thorough reports in front of them by different doctors,” Alysha said
.
Clark independent MHA Kristie Johnston said the actions by the government amounted to doctor shopping in an attempt to dissuade her from pursuing compensation.

“They are deliberately putting barriers in place, they are dragging it out and they’re causing more trauma upon the trauma she’s already experienced by the witnessing of child abuse,” she said.

“The way the state government has been behaving with Alysha’s matter must surely deter anyone from stepping forward and blowing the whistle on wrongdoing, corruption, child abuse – all those things that ought to be called out.”

Lawyer Angela Sdrinis said in her 40 years of practice in Victorian and federal workers compensation jurisdictions, she had never seen anything like what Alysha had experienced in Tasmania with respect to the medical evaluation process.

Asked about the appointment of external counsel for Alysha’s case, a state government spokesperson said: “It would not be appropriate for the government to comment on individual cases through the media.”

On calls for the Premier to intervene, they said: “It would not be appropriate for the government to intervene in active worker’s compensation claims, as it is important they are treated lawfully and fairly without political interference.”

https://www.examiner.com.au/story/7913633/calls-for-premiers-intervention-on-ashley-compensation-case-rejected

Seems to often come down to you embarrassed the government for its wrongdoing and will pay, the wrongdoing being irrelevant.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-21/alastair-clarkson-and-chris-fagan-named-in-hawks-review/101452320

I started reading this story thinking it was going to be about historic cases from 50 or 100 years ago but instead it is about those barbaric times 2013-2015.

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-21/alastair-clarkson-and-chris-fagan-named-in-hawks-review/101452320

I started reading this story thinking it was going to be about historic cases from 50 or 100 years ago but instead it is about those barbaric times 2013-2015.

Its astonishing were the colour, race or sexuality of person in so called teams is still an issue, aren’t you a team were that doesn’t matter.
Armed forces and I’m assuming police have a problem with it as well.

Cymek said:

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-21/alastair-clarkson-and-chris-fagan-named-in-hawks-review/101452320

I started reading this story thinking it was going to be about historic cases from 50 or 100 years ago but instead it is about those barbaric times 2013-2015.

Its astonishing were the colour, race or sexuality of person in so called teams is still an issue, aren’t you a team were that doesn’t matter.
Armed forces and I’m assuming police have a problem with it as well.

People who love military discipline, are often white supremacists. Not saying it is a dead certainty but anyone of colour is up against that wall.

Cymek said:

dv said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-21/alastair-clarkson-and-chris-fagan-named-in-hawks-review/101452320

I started reading this story thinking it was going to be about historic cases from 50 or 100 years ago but instead it is about those barbaric times 2013-2015.

Its astonishing were the colour, race or sexuality of person in so called teams is still an issue, aren’t you a team were that doesn’t matter.
Armed forces and I’m assuming police have a problem with it as well.

seems to me that the armed forces did not have as many problems with it as the RSL. (thinks back to the 70s when my father, who was an officer, got thrown out of an RSL for trying to sign in a fellow who had fought along side him..)

ah back when people were young and free and happily enjoyed and defended their rights instead of putting their heads down and masks on just to save a few expensive and useless codgers

SCIENCE said:

ah back when people were young and free and happily enjoyed and defended their rights instead of putting their heads down and masks on just to save a few expensive and useless codgers

My physiotherapist hung a folded sheet over the glass window on the door because he had told me I could remove my mask.
He said it was all a bit silly really.

I looked at him and thought, well despite all the signs, the girls behind the desk only put their mask back up from their chin when they saw me with my mask on asking questions.

Resolve Strategic federal poll today

57-43 to Labor

Albo approval 62%, disapproval 24%

Dutton approval 28%, disapproval 40%

In the preferred PM stakes, Albo 53, Dutton 19. This is some improvement for Dutton as the last one was 55-17.

54-46 support retaining the monarchy.

Elizabeth’s time as Australia’s head of state was rated as good by 75% and poor by 5%.

45% had high expectations of Charles’s reign, 14% poor.

dv said:

Resolve Strategic federal poll today

57-43 to Labor

Albo approval 62%, disapproval 24%

Dutton approval 28%, disapproval 40%

In the preferred PM stakes, Albo 53, Dutton 19. This is some improvement for Dutton as the last one was 55-17.

54-46 support retaining the monarchy.

Elizabeth’s time as Australia’s head of state was rated as good by 75% and poor by 5%.

45% had high expectations of Charles’s reign, 14% poor.

I think we’ve seen too many busted arsed republics in Africa and North America to go there.

dv said:

Resolve Strategic federal poll today

57-43 to Labor

Albo approval 62%, disapproval 24%

Dutton approval 28%, disapproval 40%

In the preferred PM stakes, Albo 53, Dutton 19. This is some improvement for Dutton as the last one was 55-17.

54-46 support retaining the monarchy.

Elizabeth’s time as Australia’s head of state was rated as good by 75% and poor by 5%.

45% had high expectations of Charles’s reign, 14% poor.

Preferred PM is meaningless. The LOTO is always behind on that, and never really gets into positive territory until after the election. It has never really stopped a decent opposition from winning an election.

Surprised the monarchy is still so highly rated, but maybe that is just me.

party_pants said:

dv said:

Resolve Strategic federal poll today

57-43 to Labor

Albo approval 62%, disapproval 24%

Dutton approval 28%, disapproval 40%

In the preferred PM stakes, Albo 53, Dutton 19. This is some improvement for Dutton as the last one was 55-17.

54-46 support retaining the monarchy.

Elizabeth’s time as Australia’s head of state was rated as good by 75% and poor by 5%.

45% had high expectations of Charles’s reign, 14% poor.

Preferred PM is meaningless. The LOTO is always behind on that, and never really gets into positive territory until after the election. It has never really stopped a decent opposition from winning an election.

Surprised the monarchy is still so highly rated, but maybe that is just me.

“Preferred PM is meaningless. The LOTO is always behind on that”

I wouldn’t say that. You’re right that the LOTO is typically behind but there’s a difference between 40% and 17%. You can be behind and you can be underground.

party_pants said:

dv said:

Resolve Strategic federal poll today

57-43 to Labor

Albo approval 62%, disapproval 24%

Dutton approval 28%, disapproval 40%

In the preferred PM stakes, Albo 53, Dutton 19. This is some improvement for Dutton as the last one was 55-17.

54-46 support retaining the monarchy.

Elizabeth’s time as Australia’s head of state was rated as good by 75% and poor by 5%.

45% had high expectations of Charles’s reign, 14% poor.

Preferred PM is meaningless. The LOTO is always behind on that, and never really gets into positive territory until after the election. It has never really stopped a decent opposition from winning an election.

Surprised the monarchy is still so highly rated, but maybe that is just me.

There may have been something recently that brought the monarchy to the forefront of news.

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

Resolve Strategic federal poll today

57-43 to Labor

Albo approval 62%, disapproval 24%

Dutton approval 28%, disapproval 40%

In the preferred PM stakes, Albo 53, Dutton 19. This is some improvement for Dutton as the last one was 55-17.

54-46 support retaining the monarchy.

Elizabeth’s time as Australia’s head of state was rated as good by 75% and poor by 5%.

45% had high expectations of Charles’s reign, 14% poor.

Preferred PM is meaningless. The LOTO is always behind on that, and never really gets into positive territory until after the election. It has never really stopped a decent opposition from winning an election.

Surprised the monarchy is still so highly rated, but maybe that is just me.

There may have been something recently that brought the monarchy to the forefront of news.

I don’t follow the news much

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

Resolve Strategic federal poll today

57-43 to Labor

Albo approval 62%, disapproval 24%

Dutton approval 28%, disapproval 40%

In the preferred PM stakes, Albo 53, Dutton 19. This is some improvement for Dutton as the last one was 55-17.

54-46 support retaining the monarchy.

Elizabeth’s time as Australia’s head of state was rated as good by 75% and poor by 5%.

45% had high expectations of Charles’s reign, 14% poor.

Preferred PM is meaningless. The LOTO is always behind on that, and never really gets into positive territory until after the election. It has never really stopped a decent opposition from winning an election.

Surprised the monarchy is still so highly rated, but maybe that is just me.

There may have been something recently that brought the monarchy to the forefront of news.

Oh yeah, I am officially in mourning for my day off. Started on the beers as soon as I got home from work.

Also there was in fact a time when Prime Minister Abbott was behind Opposition leader Shorten in the preferred PM polls.
And then Abbott was gone.

party_pants said:

Surprised the monarchy is still so highly rated, but maybe that is just me.

Perhaps the republican movement has more to do to convince people that a republic would mean more than changing the letterheads here and there.

dv said:

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

Preferred PM is meaningless. The LOTO is always behind on that, and never really gets into positive territory until after the election. It has never really stopped a decent opposition from winning an election.

Surprised the monarchy is still so highly rated, but maybe that is just me.

There may have been something recently that brought the monarchy to the forefront of news.

I don’t follow the news much

Me either but one of the Queens grand children has married a black American woman apparently.

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

Surprised the monarchy is still so highly rated, but maybe that is just me.

Perhaps the republican movement has more to do to convince people that a republic would mean more than changing the letterheads here and there.

Maybe we should just make a former Australian test cricket captain the monarch, Start with Mark Taylor. Minimum 15 tests, alternate male and female captains. Smith the Unworthy is excluded from the succession.

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

Surprised the monarchy is still so highly rated, but maybe that is just me.

Perhaps the republican movement has more to do to convince people that a republic would mean more than changing the letterheads here and there.

Maybe we should just make a former Australian test cricket captain the monarch, Start with Mark Taylor. Minimum 15 tests, alternate male and female captains. Smith the Unworthy is excluded from the succession.

I’m afraid that Taylor is a box-head, and always will be.

anyway as we all know STEMocracy is far more optimal

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

captain_spalding said:

Perhaps the republican movement has more to do to convince people that a republic would mean more than changing the letterheads here and there.

Maybe we should just make a former Australian test cricket captain the monarch, Start with Mark Taylor. Minimum 15 tests, alternate male and female captains. Smith the Unworthy is excluded from the succession.

I’m afraid that Taylor is a box-head, and always will be.

If it wasn’t for him most Australians wouldn’t know that Fujitsu was Australia’s favourite air.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

sibeen said:

There may have been something recently that brought the monarchy to the forefront of news.

I don’t follow the news much

Me either but one of the Queens grand children has married a black American woman apparently.

Always disappointing when they don’t marry a cousin or other close relative.

Spiny Norman said:

Discuss.

September 22… A great day for a holiday… The pollies get it right.

It’s Spring Equinox or Astronomical Spring.. or near enough to :)

NSW Newspoll

54-46 to Labor

Perotet approval 47 disapproval 41

Minns approval 42 disapproval 27

Next election is still 6 months away

dv said:

Next election is still 6 months away

fk

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Next election is still 6 months away

fk

Until then we must still suffer under the evil overlords.

LOL

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/libs-could-cut-deal-with-labor-on-integrity-commission-20220922-p5bk3y

Minor parties and independents in both houses of parliament could be excluded from having any meaningful say on Labor’s proposed national integrity commission because the Coalition is also interested in passing the legislation.

Full interview

https://www.abc.net.au/insiders/shadow-finance-minister-jane-hume/14065386

 A senior opposition frontbencher has made a bizarre claim on national television that the Coalition “does not have policies” in an attempt to dodge a question about petrol prices.

Pressed by Insiders host David Speers about where the Coalition stood on the fuel excise – a policy the former government introduced in April which will end on Wednesday – Shadow Finance Minister Jane Hume failed to provide a straight answer.

Asked where the opposition stood on the policy, Senator Hume instead opted to dance around the question by saying it was up to Labor to make the policy decision.

“We don’t have policies, we are in opposition, not in government,” she said.

Speers pushed back, telling Senator Hume the opposition did in fact have policies, namely on the aged care pension.

Senator Hume maintained it was not on the opposition to make decisions about policy and refused to be drawn on whether she wanted to excise cut to be extended.

“Our policy (when we were in government) was a temporary cost-of-living pressure for the fuel excise – that is going ahead,” Senator Hume said.

“It’s up to Labor to make its decision (now).”

The former government introduced the fuel excise cut earlier this year, reducing petrol prices by more than 20c after the war in Ukraine drove global petrol prices to record highs.

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/jane-hume-makes-strange-call-about-oppositions-policies/news-story/e0200003511a8c2a3a5f04a8e4e12c78

dv said:

Full interview

https://www.abc.net.au/insiders/shadow-finance-minister-jane-hume/14065386

 A senior opposition frontbencher has made a bizarre claim on national television that the Coalition “does not have policies” in an attempt to dodge a question about petrol prices.

Pressed by Insiders host David Speers about where the Coalition stood on the fuel excise – a policy the former government introduced in April which will end on Wednesday – Shadow Finance Minister Jane Hume failed to provide a straight answer.

Asked where the opposition stood on the policy, Senator Hume instead opted to dance around the question by saying it was up to Labor to make the policy decision.

“We don’t have policies, we are in opposition, not in government,” she said.

Speers pushed back, telling Senator Hume the opposition did in fact have policies, namely on the aged care pension.

Senator Hume maintained it was not on the opposition to make decisions about policy and refused to be drawn on whether she wanted to excise cut to be extended.

“Our policy (when we were in government) was a temporary cost-of-living pressure for the fuel excise – that is going ahead,” Senator Hume said.

“It’s up to Labor to make its decision (now).”

The former government introduced the fuel excise cut earlier this year, reducing petrol prices by more than 20c after the war in Ukraine drove global petrol prices to record highs.

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/jane-hume-makes-strange-call-about-oppositions-policies/news-story/e0200003511a8c2a3a5f04a8e4e12c78

‘Don’t ask us, we’re in Opposition now, we don’t gotta do nuffink.’

dv said:

Full interview

https://www.abc.net.au/insiders/shadow-finance-minister-jane-hume/14065386

 A senior opposition frontbencher has made a bizarre claim on national television that the Coalition “does not have policies” in an attempt to dodge a question about petrol prices.

Pressed by Insiders host David Speers about where the Coalition stood on the fuel excise – a policy the former government introduced in April which will end on Wednesday – Shadow Finance Minister Jane Hume failed to provide a straight answer.

Asked where the opposition stood on the policy, Senator Hume instead opted to dance around the question by saying it was up to Labor to make the policy decision.

“We don’t have policies, we are in opposition, not in government,” she said.

Speers pushed back, telling Senator Hume the opposition did in fact have policies, namely on the aged care pension.

Senator Hume maintained it was not on the opposition to make decisions about policy and refused to be drawn on whether she wanted to excise cut to be extended.

“Our policy (when we were in government) was a temporary cost-of-living pressure for the fuel excise – that is going ahead,” Senator Hume said.

“It’s up to Labor to make its decision (now).”

The former government introduced the fuel excise cut earlier this year, reducing petrol prices by more than 20c after the war in Ukraine drove global petrol prices to record highs.

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/jane-hume-makes-strange-call-about-oppositions-policies/news-story/e0200003511a8c2a3a5f04a8e4e12c78

“I can’t answer your questions as our only policy at the moment is to go full retard.”

In that interview, Speers refers to comments made by Farage…

https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/liberal-seats-lost-to-teals-are-gone-forever-nigel-farage-says/news-story/e2117b71c8f340f91d937baf46d78a48

Liberal seats lost to teals are ‘gone forever’, Nigel Farage says

Former Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage has declared inner-city seats lost by Liberal MPs to teal independents at the May election are “gone” and the party should forget trying to win them back.

—-

I don’t think they have much of an alternative path to victory.

dv said:

In that interview, Speers refers to comments made by Farage…

https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/liberal-seats-lost-to-teals-are-gone-forever-nigel-farage-says/news-story/e2117b71c8f340f91d937baf46d78a48

Liberal seats lost to teals are ‘gone forever’, Nigel Farage says

Former Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage has declared inner-city seats lost by Liberal MPs to teal independents at the May election are “gone” and the party should forget trying to win them back.

—-

I don’t think they have much of an alternative path to victory.

Might we see an ALP/Teal coalition to rival Liberal/NP?

dv said:

In that interview, Speers refers to comments made by Farage…

https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/liberal-seats-lost-to-teals-are-gone-forever-nigel-farage-says/news-story/e2117b71c8f340f91d937baf46d78a48

Liberal seats lost to teals are ‘gone forever’, Nigel Farage says

Former Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage has declared inner-city seats lost by Liberal MPs to teal independents at the May election are “gone” and the party should forget trying to win them back.

—-

I don’t think they have much of an alternative path to victory.

I don’t think Farty Farage has any right to comment on Australian politics.

party_pants said:

dv said:

In that interview, Speers refers to comments made by Farage…

https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/liberal-seats-lost-to-teals-are-gone-forever-nigel-farage-says/news-story/e2117b71c8f340f91d937baf46d78a48

Liberal seats lost to teals are ‘gone forever’, Nigel Farage says

Former Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage has declared inner-city seats lost by Liberal MPs to teal independents at the May election are “gone” and the party should forget trying to win them back.

—-

I don’t think they have much of an alternative path to victory.

I don’t think Farty Farage has any right to comment on Australian politics.

‘Farage’ always suggests to me an abbreviation ‘F***ing garage’.

captain_spalding said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

In that interview, Speers refers to comments made by Farage…

https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/liberal-seats-lost-to-teals-are-gone-forever-nigel-farage-says/news-story/e2117b71c8f340f91d937baf46d78a48

Liberal seats lost to teals are ‘gone forever’, Nigel Farage says

Former Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage has declared inner-city seats lost by Liberal MPs to teal independents at the May election are “gone” and the party should forget trying to win them back.

—-

I don’t think they have much of an alternative path to victory.

I don’t think Farty Farage has any right to comment on Australian politics.

‘Farage’ always suggests to me an abbreviation ‘F***ing garage’.

Cross between farrago and garbage

but i think farage is right in that people like being represented and are unlikely to vote lib or lab again while their independent does a good job. see Wilkie.

sarahs mum said:

but i think farage is right in that people like being represented and are unlikely to vote lib or lab again while their independent does a good job. see Wilkie.

I mean the Libs could try to improve to win those people back, right? I mean some of these were very safe Lib seats.

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

but i think farage is right in that people like being represented and are unlikely to vote lib or lab again while their independent does a good job. see Wilkie.

I mean the Libs could try to improve to win those people back, right? I mean some of these were very safe Lib seats.

Yeah, some pork-barrelling here, some outright bribery there, lobbying for grants to the local private schools and sports clubs etc.,bada-bing bada-boom, they’ll be blue seats again before you know it. The voters in those seats now how it works.

look at all these communists

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-26/qld-clean-energy-target-new-south-burnett-wind-farm/101472494

meanwhile in beautiful theocratic NSW the correct solution to school abuse

A Chief Behaviour Advisor tasked with improving behaviour in NSW’s public and private schools will be appointed by the state government

The global search for the state’s first Chief Behaviour Advisor will start next month

is obviously to find another beneficiary to pay big bucks to to talk a whole bunch of stuff but not actually address the problem

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-26/nsw-to-appoint-chief-behaviour-advisor-lift-respect-at-schools/101472388

SCIENCE said:

look at all these communists

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-26/qld-clean-energy-target-new-south-burnett-wind-farm/101472494

A wind farm with 150 turbines and output (presumably peak) of 500 MW doesn’t seem that big.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

look at all these communists

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-26/qld-clean-energy-target-new-south-burnett-wind-farm/101472494

A wind farm with 150 turbines and output (presumably peak) of 500 MW doesn’t seem that big.

Ah well, it certainly is big by the standards of the Qld wind power industry.

It will supply about 3% of Qld’s electrical power needs.q

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

look at all these communists

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-26/qld-clean-energy-target-new-south-burnett-wind-farm/101472494

A wind farm with 150 turbines and output (presumably peak) of 500 MW doesn’t seem that big.

Ah well, it certainly is big by the standards of the Qld wind power industry.

It will supply about 3% of Qld’s electrical power needs.q

Only need another 32 then.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

A wind farm with 150 turbines and output (presumably peak) of 500 MW doesn’t seem that big.

Ah well, it certainly is big by the standards of the Qld wind power industry.

It will supply about 3% of Qld’s electrical power needs.q

Only need another 32 then.

Conceivably windpower need not make up 100% of power generation in Queensland.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

look at all these communists

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-26/qld-clean-energy-target-new-south-burnett-wind-farm/101472494

A wind farm with 150 turbines and output (presumably peak) of 500 MW doesn’t seem that big.

I’m wondering about how long it will take after the government builds it for it to be very quietly ‘corporatised’ into private hands, by this or some later government.

captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

look at all these communists

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-26/qld-clean-energy-target-new-south-burnett-wind-farm/101472494

A wind farm with 150 turbines and output (presumably peak) of 500 MW doesn’t seem that big.

I’m wondering about how long it will take after the government builds it for it to be very quietly ‘corporatised’ into private hands, by this or some later government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanwell_Corporation

did you notice anything when windy hill was sold? stanwell seems to be a big supplier of energy to Qld and is state owned.

Inquiry into DNA testing in Queensland set to begin today

Last week an interim report came out, which found in some cases, incorrect DNA statements were issued to courts.

Two employees at Queensland’s Forensic Unit have been stood down and Queensland Police will now re-examine thousands of major crimes dating back to 2018.

The Inquiry will begin six days of public hearings in the Brisbane Magistrates Court today and is due to hand down its report in December.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Ah well, it certainly is big by the standards of the Qld wind power industry.

It will supply about 3% of Qld’s electrical power needs.q

Only need another 32 then.

Conceivably windpower need not make up 100% of power generation in Queensland.

OK, so what would a reasonable target be?

Does the Qld gov have a plan? (Does any state gov have a plan?)

Looks like the Greens are going to encourage smoking, particularly in our younguns

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Only need another 32 then.

Conceivably windpower need not make up 100% of power generation in Queensland.

OK, so what would a reasonable target be?

Does the Qld gov have a plan? (Does any state gov have a plan?)

The full decarbonisation plans appear to be somewhat agnostic about exact percentages of various renewable electrical sources, which is in my view reasonable.

Wouldn’t surprise me if the total balance for Australia ended up something like 20% hydro, 40% wind, 30% solar, 10% other.

Peak Warming Man said:

Looks like the Greens are going to encourage smoking, particularly in our younguns

I think there are lots of things we could do before going that far.

For a start, have any group that discourages birth control declared a terrorist organisation.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Only need another 32 then.

Conceivably windpower need not make up 100% of power generation in Queensland.

OK, so what would a reasonable target be?

Does the Qld gov have a plan? (Does any state gov have a plan?)

They could always impose a domestic quota on natural gas.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Looks like the Greens are going to encourage smoking, particularly in our younguns

I think there are lots of things we could do before going that far.

For a start, have any group that discourages birth control declared a terrorist organisation.

so the USSA are the biggest terrorist nation on earth

who would have thought

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Looks like the Greens are going to encourage smoking, particularly in our younguns

I think there are lots of things we could do before going that far.

For a start, have any group that discourages birth control declared a terrorist organisation.

so the USSA are the biggest terrorist nation on earth

who would have thought

OK, fair enough, but I had the premier of my home state more in mind.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I think there are lots of things we could do before going that far.

For a start, have any group that discourages birth control declared a terrorist organisation.

so the USSA are the biggest terrorist nation on earth

who would have thought

OK, fair enough, but I had the premier of my home state more in mind.

ah the theocratic southwestern bipartisan alliance, transcending Communist-Corruption divides

Peak Warming Man said:

Looks like the Greens are going to encourage smoking, particularly in our younguns

One must partake in some sort of divertissement whilst wandering the streets late at night.

The Rev Dodgson said:

SCIENCE said:

look at all these communists

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-26/qld-clean-energy-target-new-south-burnett-wind-farm/101472494

A wind farm with 150 turbines and output (presumably peak) of 500 MW doesn’t seem that big.

To put that into some form of perspective, I’m flying to Sydney tomorrow to kick some tyres at a Data centre. This place has a max capacity of 30 MW and is a single building. The same mob have one being built that will have a max capacity of 300 MW.

One thing I didn’t know is that England’s Bill of Rights (1689) is still in force in the UK and all the Realms, including Australia.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/aep/WillandMarSess2/1/2/introduction

Much of it relates to setting Mary and James on the throne and but there are several parts related to general rights.

The Subject’s Rights.

And thereupon the said Lords Spirituall and Temporall and Commons pursuant to their respective Letters and Elections being now assembled in a full and free Representative of this Nation takeing into their most serious Consideration the best meanes for attaining the Ends aforesaid Doe in the first place (as their Auncestors in like Case have usually done) for the Vindicating and Asserting their auntient Rights and Liberties, Declare

Dispensing Power.

That the pretended Power of Suspending of Laws or the Execution of Laws by Regall Authority without Consent of Parlyament is illegall.

Late dispensing Power.

That the pretended Power of Dispensing with Laws or the Execution of Laws by Regall Authoritie as it hath beene assumed and exercised of late is illegall.

Ecclesiastical Courts illegal.

That the Commission for erecting the late Court of Commissioners for Ecclesiasticall Causes and all other Commissions and Courts of like nature are Illegall and Pernicious.

Levying Money.

That levying Money for or to the Use of the Crowne by pretence of Prerogative without Grant of Parlyament for longer time or in other manner then the same is or shall be granted is Illegall.

Right to petition.

That it is the Right of the Subjects to petition the King and all Commitments and Prosecutions for such Petitioning are Illegall.

Standing Army.

That the raising or keeping a standing Army within the Kingdome in time of Peace unlesse it be with Consent of Parlyament is against Law.

Subjects’ Arms.

That the Subjects which are Protestants may have Arms for their Defence suitable to their Conditions and as allowed by Law.

Freedom of Election.

That Election of Members of Parlyament ought to be free.

Freedom of Speech.

That the Freedome of Speech and Debates or Proceedings in Parlyament ought not to be impeached or questioned in any Court or Place out of Parlyament.

Excessive Bail.

That excessive Baile ought not to be required nor excessive Fines imposed nor cruell and unusuall Punishments inflicted.

Juries.

That Jurors ought to be duely impannelled and returned . . . F1

Grants of Forfeitures.

That all Grants and Promises of Fines and Forfeitures of particular persons before Conviction are illegall and void.

Frequent Parliaments.

And that for Redresse of all Grievances and for the amending strengthening and preserveing of the Lawes Parlyaments ought to be held frequently.

Be afraid Attorney-general warns new anti-corruption commission will have broad powers
Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus warns politicians and officials to “be afraid” of the powers the federal government wants to give its new anti-corruption commission.

https://morningconsult.com/global-leader-approval/#section-1

Pretty weird that Albo is one of the top three leaders in the world o terms of approval levels.

dv said:

https://morningconsult.com/global-leader-approval/#section-1

Pretty weird that Albo is one of the top three leaders in the world o terms of approval levels.

Probably simply means that the others are worse.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

https://morningconsult.com/global-leader-approval/#section-1

Pretty weird that Albo is one of the top three leaders in the world o terms of approval levels.

Probably simply means that the others are worse.

Look at Truss. She must wish she had Duttonsl’s popularity.

dv said:

https://morningconsult.com/global-leader-approval/#section-1

Pretty weird that Albo is one of the top three leaders in the world o terms of approval levels.

After the previous mob a pig with lipstick would garner wide approval.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

https://morningconsult.com/global-leader-approval/#section-1

Pretty weird that Albo is one of the top three leaders in the world o terms of approval levels.

Probably simply means that the others are worse.

Look at Truss. She must wish she had Duttonsl’s popularity.

Truss does give support though

Cymek said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Probably simply means that the others are worse.

Look at Truss. She must wish she had Duttonsl’s popularity.

Truss does give support though

Heh

Cymek said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Probably simply means that the others are worse.

Look at Truss. She must wish she had Duttonsl’s popularity.

Truss does give support though

Only when there are sufficient reaction forces.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

dv said:

Look at Truss. She must wish she had Duttonsl’s popularity.

Truss does give support though

Only when there are sufficient reaction forces.

how well would they do against their arch rival though

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

Truss does give support though

Only when there are sufficient reaction forces.

how well would they do against their arch rival though

‘Liz Truss: Tory MPs sending no-confidence letters over fears she will ‘crash the economy’, says ex-minister’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/liz-truss-pound-no-confidence-letters-b2175293.html

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Only when there are sufficient reaction forces.

how well would they do against their arch rival though

‘Liz Truss: Tory MPs sending no-confidence letters over fears she will ‘crash the economy’, says ex-minister’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/liz-truss-pound-no-confidence-letters-b2175293.html

so it’s been a bit of a pylon d’we reckon

The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

dv said:

Look at Truss. She must wish she had Duttonsl’s popularity.

Truss does give support though

Only when there are sufficient reaction forces.

Her knee a?

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

how well would they do against their arch rival though

‘Liz Truss: Tory MPs sending no-confidence letters over fears she will ‘crash the economy’, says ex-minister’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/liz-truss-pound-no-confidence-letters-b2175293.html

so it’s been a bit of a pylon d’we reckon

We are not interested in her plumbing regime.

dv said:

https://morningconsult.com/global-leader-approval/#section-1

Pretty weird that Albo is one of the top three leaders in the world o terms of approval levels.

The sense of relief has not yet diminished.

SCIENCE said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Cymek said:

Truss does give support though

Only when there are sufficient reaction forces.

how well would they do against their arch rival though

An arch is an inverted catenary, so is more efficient, and generates much less stress.

Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

https://morningconsult.com/global-leader-approval/#section-1

Pretty weird that Albo is one of the top three leaders in the world o terms of approval levels.

After the previous mob a pig with lipstick would garner wide approval.

LOLOL

Cymek said:

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Probably simply means that the others are worse.

Look at Truss. She must wish she had Duttonsl’s popularity.

Truss does give support though

LOL

Prime Minister says truth-telling should be part of classroom curriculum
Mr Albanese acknowledged frontier massacres and said “we need to be truthful about that” as Linda Burney shared her people’s history.

https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/prime-minister-says-truth-telling-should-be-part-of-classroom-curriculum/adphege25

dv said:

Prime Minister says truth-telling should be part of classroom curriculum
Mr Albanese acknowledged frontier massacres and said “we need to be truthful about that” as Linda Burney shared her people’s history.

https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/prime-minister-says-truth-telling-should-be-part-of-classroom-curriculum/adphege25

Recently our son informed SWMBO that a relative of hers who was famous once remarked that the blackfellows should be killed and their bodies used as manure for the land.

SWMBO was suitably unimpresed.

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

https://morningconsult.com/global-leader-approval/#section-1

Pretty weird that Albo is one of the top three leaders in the world o terms of approval levels.

After the previous mob a pig with lipstick would garner wide approval.

LOLOL

So true too.

dv said:

as long as the outcomes are transparent I don’t really care. Most of us have moved on from public executions.

Bogsnorkler said:

dv said:

as long as the outcomes are transparent I don’t really care. Most of us have moved on from public executions.

Public hearings usually means the media can attend and report on it. Not many people actually turn up to observe proceedings except for uni students.

party_pants said:

Bogsnorkler said:

dv said:

as long as the outcomes are transparent I don’t really care. Most of us have moved on from public executions.

Public hearings usually means the media can attend and report on it. Not many people actually turn up to observe proceedings except for uni students.

I am aware of that. it makes no difference to what i said.

Larissa Waters
1 m ·
BREAKING: The Senate has just voted to scrap the Cashless Debit Card.
This is huge news for the more than 12,000 people who will no longer be subjected to the discriminatory CDC.
They’ll now be able to buy clothes for their kids at second hand stores; pay cash for fruit and veg at the markets and buy goods online rather than having most of their income quarantined on a debit card.
But across Australia, more than 20,000 people are still trapped on compulsory income management, which we know is harmful and doesn’t work.
The government voted against our Greens amendment to abolish all forms of compulsory income management. But the fight isn’t over.
The Greens will continue to advocate for a fairer social security system, and to end all forms of compulsory income management that only serve to punish people in poverty.
My respect and appreciation to Senator janetricegreens who so passionately led this debate for us, after many years of former Senator rachelsiewert working for this outcome 💚

sarahs mum said:

Larissa Waters
1 m ·
BREAKING: The Senate has just voted to scrap the Cashless Debit Card.
This is huge news for the more than 12,000 people who will no longer be subjected to the discriminatory CDC.
They’ll now be able to buy clothes for their kids at second hand stores; pay cash for fruit and veg at the markets and buy goods online rather than having most of their income quarantined on a debit card.
But across Australia, more than 20,000 people are still trapped on compulsory income management, which we know is harmful and doesn’t work.
The government voted against our Greens amendment to abolish all forms of compulsory income management. But the fight isn’t over.
The Greens will continue to advocate for a fairer social security system, and to end all forms of compulsory income management that only serve to punish people in poverty.
My respect and appreciation to Senator janetricegreens who so passionately led this debate for us, after many years of former Senator rachelsiewert working for this outcome 💚

Good can happen.