Just noticed the COVID thread hadn’t been brought into Spring.

buffy said:

Just noticed the COVID thread hadn’t been brought into Spring.

Well spotted, buffy.
Thank you.

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Surprise Surprise ¡

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/02/days-after-successfully-lobbying-for-covid-isolation-period-to-be-reduced-nsw-premier-wants-it-scrapped

did we mention

The New South Wales premier, Dominic Perrottet, has called for the mandatory isolation period for Covid to be scrapped, just days after it was reduced. Earlier this week, national cabinet agreed to lower the mandatory isolation time for Covid-positive cases from seven days to five, which will come into effect from next Friday. While the NSW premier had been vocal in calling for the reduction, he told Sky News the isolation period should be removed entirely “as soon as possible”. “I believe we need to move away from public health orders, we need to move … to a system in which we’ll respect each other – if you’re sick you stay at home, if you’re not sick go to work,” he said.

Surprise¿

LOLOLOLOLOL

back to our serious questions then

if there is this fucked up level of consensus in that national broomcloset or whatever they call it

why the fuck are they even changing it step by step

¿

just rip the isolation scab off once and for all you dickheads

>if you’re sick you stay at home, if you’re not sick go to work

love Dom, like for example the simple genius in that above, wisdom you know, buried in that pithy obviousness there’s a secret instruction about how to avoid avoid getting sick, how to avoid avoid exposure, it’s a gem

sick people stay at home, healthy people go to work, could it be any clearer

i’m not exactly sure from that what people do that might want to avoid exposure, or repeat exposures, you know avoid long covid perhaps, or just repeat illness

maybe not sick is the same as healthy, or maybe it isn’t, who knows these days

would it be unhealthy to spread covid around, yeah that could be it, healthy people doing something unhealthy

if it is the case that healthy people have been licensed to do something unhealthy, then i’d reckon the concept of health, healthy and healthiness possibly has an inconvenient dimension

abandon the concept entirely might help things, replace it with sick, a binary, sick/not-sick, and surely sick people look sick, they appear sickly, little subjective self-evaluation of how healthy you feel required

so you’ve got a little something, the idealized seven days to recovery doesn’t seem to have happened, or you enjoyed it so much you relapsed, abandoned the stereotype symptoms and duration, went on to develop more interesting problems, you don’t appear that sick, you’re certainly not dead, and don’t appear to be dying

anyway whatever, some playful semantics

so what you’re saying is they’re saying that only sick people and ASIANS (probably they are the same people) wear masks, and everyone else is healthy and should party

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Sounds like your doctors are all over it.

This is a Good Thing, right?

:)

depends, do they use the availability of injectables as an excuse to allow increased exposure, thereby increasing the chance of selection of a viral strain that is resistant to injectables

or do they provide injectables as part of a defence in depth strategy that includes multiple layers of other safeguards, thereby decreasing transmission and aiding in the elimination of a virulent disease

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Sounds like your doctors are all over it.

This is a Good Thing, right?

:)

depends, do they use the availability of injectables as an excuse to allow increased exposure, thereby increasing the chance of selection of a viral strain that is resistant to injectables

or do they provide injectables as part of a defence in depth strategy that includes multiple layers of other safeguards, thereby decreasing transmission and aiding in the elimination of a virulent disease

Tamb?

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Sounds like your doctors are all over it.

This is a Good Thing, right?

:)

depends, do they use the availability of injectables as an excuse to allow increased exposure, thereby increasing the chance of selection of a viral strain that is resistant to injectables

or do they provide injectables as part of a defence in depth strategy that includes multiple layers of other safeguards, thereby decreasing transmission and aiding in the elimination of a virulent disease

I think it’s more on a person by person basis to safeguard the ones most at risk.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-03/lumpy-skin-disease-could-reach-australia-cattle-producers/101392408

SCIENCE said:

LOL

Mystery pneumonia kills three and infects nine in Argentina

ahahahahahaha beautiful

https://www.paho.org/en/documents/informative-note-cases-pneumonia-due-unknown-cause-tucuman-argentina

To date, a total of 9 cases related to this cluster have been identified, including 3 deaths. Preliminary investigation indicates that the fatal cases had comorbidities.

that’s the important thing, they had preexisting conditions, they deserved it

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

ahahahahahaha beautiful

remember when they warned us that voluntary euthanasia would be a slippery slope

but now they’re the same ones greasing up the surface

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

LOLOLOLOLOL

back to our serious questions then

if there is this fucked up level of consensus in that national broomcloset or whatever they call it

why the fuck are they even changing it step by step

¿

just rip the isolation scab off once and for all you dickheads

>if you’re sick you stay at home, if you’re not sick go to work

love Dom, like for example the simple genius in that above, wisdom you know, buried in that pithy obviousness there’s a secret instruction about how to avoid avoid getting sick, how to avoid avoid exposure, it’s a gem

sick people stay at home, healthy people go to work, could it be any clearer

i’m not exactly sure from that what people do that might want to avoid exposure, or repeat exposures, you know avoid long covid perhaps, or just repeat illness

maybe not sick is the same as healthy, or maybe it isn’t, who knows these days

would it be unhealthy to spread covid around, yeah that could be it, healthy people doing something unhealthy

if it is the case that healthy people have been licensed to do something unhealthy, then i’d reckon the concept of health, healthy and healthiness possibly has an inconvenient dimension

abandon the concept entirely might help things, replace it with sick, a binary, sick/not-sick, and surely sick people look sick, they appear sickly, little subjective self-evaluation of how healthy you feel required

so you’ve got a little something, the idealized seven days to recovery doesn’t seem to have happened, or you enjoyed it so much you relapsed, abandoned the stereotype symptoms and duration, went on to develop more interesting problems, you don’t appear that sick, you’re certainly not dead, and don’t appear to be dying

anyway whatever, some playful semantics

so what you’re saying is they’re saying that only sick people and ASIANS (probably they are the same people) wear masks, and everyone else is healthy and should party

something like that, pointing to the contradiction of licensing healthy people to do something unhealthy, like spread covid and contribute to long-covid, not a few, many, much post-covid sequelae, they don’t know what causes it, but they do know it’s caused by viral insult, so they do and don’t know what it is, apparently causing more of it is good in that it provided more examples to study – unlimited

i’ve heard long covid causes some discomfort, dis-ease, a decline in health is being self-reported, but it’s a bit like metaphysics making anything out of the experiences, and how is ideology to maintain its authority if everyone became a metaphysician

minds are as inconvenient as metaphysics, as inconvenient as the view there is a home in the head

can’t wait to catch that dementiavirus international air travel boom

SCIENCE said:

can’t wait to catch that dementiavirus international air travel boom

just a little virus, how much trouble could it be, polio’s a little virus too, that didn’t cause much trouble

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

can’t wait to catch that dementiavirus international air travel boom

just a little virus, how much trouble could it be, polio’s a little virus too, that didn’t cause much trouble

And to many people it was a ‘it isn’t a problem’ thing. But for others…

sarahs mum said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

can’t wait to catch that dementiavirus international air travel boom

just a little virus, how much trouble could it be, polio’s a little virus too, that didn’t cause much trouble

And to many people it was a ‘it isn’t a problem’ thing. But for others…

I think late-onset sequelae, many many years later, fatigue being a big one, probably caused by by neuro-lesions or whatever, because it got into the brain, anyway sequelae was very common, or is

they have no idea re covid yet, of the possibility of similar

What percentage of Australians have had covid now?

Among my family it’s running at about 50%. Checks OWID. Yeah, cumulative confirmed cases in Australia. Some 38.8% of people in Australia have had covid.

Australia has one of the worst cumulative covid case rates in the world.

Ever heard the adage “shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted”.

Let’s compare around the world. Typical figures.
Cumulative_covid_case_rate, country
64.5%, Cyprus
55.9%, Denmark
55.7%, Austria
49.9%, Israel
38.8%, Australia
38.7%, Germany
36.5%, European Union
34.0%, NZ
33.8%, Singapore
28.1%, USA
23.2%, Chile
21.1%, Hungary
20.8%, Hong Kong
16.1%, Brazil
15.4%, Japan
12.3%, Ukraine
12.2%, Peru
11.0%, Canada
7.6%, World average
2.3%, Indonesia
1.2%, Bangladesh
0.7%, Pakistan
0.5%, New Guinea
0.07%, China

mollwollfumble said:

What percentage of Australians have had covid now?

Among my family it’s running at about 50%. Checks OWID. Yeah, cumulative confirmed cases in Australia. Some 38.8% of people in Australia have had covid.

Australia has one of the worst cumulative covid case rates in the world.

Ever heard the adage “shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted”.

A bit the opposite. We kept the door bolted until the vaccine roll-out was completed. We have one of the world’s highest vaccine uptake rates (after a slow start), and the overall death rate is still holding quite low compared to countries with early (pre-vaccine) waves of infection. Australia is a textbook example of getting it right,.

party_pants said:

mollwollfumble said:

What percentage of Australians have had covid now?

Among my family it’s running at about 50%. Checks OWID. Yeah, cumulative confirmed cases in Australia. Some 38.8% of people in Australia have had covid.

Australia has one of the worst cumulative covid case rates in the world.

Ever heard the adage “shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted”.

A bit the opposite. We kept the door bolted until the vaccine roll-out was completed. We have one of the world’s highest vaccine uptake rates (after a slow start), and the overall death rate is still holding quite low compared to countries with early (pre-vaccine) waves of infection. Australia is a textbook example of getting it right,.

Case rate numbers are pretty dodgy. Not all countries count in the same manner. I’d expect all figures to be lower than actual case rate because of reporting problems of greater or lesser degree depending on the country.

It’s The Delayed Effects Of Lockdown ¡

ah what is life but a highly evolved form of internal combustion engine anyway

Cutting COVID isolation and mask mandates will mean more damage to business and health in the long run

https://theconversation.com/cutting-covid-isolation-and-mask-mandates-will-mean-more-damage-to-business-and-health-in-the-long-run-189862

Witty Rejoinder said:

Cutting COVID isolation and mask mandates will mean more damage to business and health in the long run

https://theconversation.com/cutting-covid-isolation-and-mask-mandates-will-mean-more-damage-to-business-and-health-in-the-long-run-189862

typical Labor antibusiness style economic mismanagement

SCIENCE said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Cutting COVID isolation and mask mandates will mean more damage to business and health in the long run

https://theconversation.com/cutting-covid-isolation-and-mask-mandates-will-mean-more-damage-to-business-and-health-in-the-long-run-189862

typical Labor antibusiness style economic mismanagement

thou shalt have NFI where the covid pollution might be and converge on zero responsibility

doubt they have too many troubles making that so

what plague..

transition said:

what plague..

LOL

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/datablog/2022/sep/04/covid-pandemic-may-be-causing-more-deaths-than-australias-daily-numbers-suggest

turns out Pandemic is actually preventing heart attacks in the over 80s good news

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

what plague..

LOL

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/datablog/2022/sep/04/covid-pandemic-may-be-causing-more-deaths-than-australias-daily-numbers-suggest

that’s a derrr bomb, enters your head and executes a lobotomy, preferentially takes out any native intelligence you had

i’m not indulging the distractions, covid’s still causing mass injuries, and the nature of the troubles with covid haven’t changes since day one in china, it only got more contagious and more people are contributing to the contagiousness

SCIENCE said:

turns out Pandemic is actually preventing heart attacks in the over 80s good news

call me dumb, what does that graph show exactly

is it incidents of per 10000, percentage or what, and what is zero

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

turns out Pandemic is actually preventing heart attacks in the over 80s good news

call me dumb, what does that graph show exactly

is it incidents of per 10000, percentage or what, and what is zero

according to the article

A Financial Times analysis of data from the UK’s NHS, one of the world’s richest health data sets, showed significant rises in deaths from heart disease since the start of the pandemic in all but the very oldest age groups. In the 40-64 age group, heart attack deaths increased 15 per cent in 2021 compared with 2019.

but we haven’t checked

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

turns out Pandemic is actually preventing heart attacks in the over 80s good news

call me dumb, what does that graph show exactly

is it incidents of per 10000, percentage or what, and what is zero

according to the article

A Financial Times analysis of data from the UK’s NHS, one of the world’s richest health data sets, showed significant rises in deaths from heart disease since the start of the pandemic in all but the very oldest age groups. In the 40-64 age group, heart attack deaths increased 15 per cent in 2021 compared with 2019.

but we haven’t checked

right found it

https://www.ft.com/content/26e0731f-15c4-4f5a-b2dc-fd8591a02aec

two tenuously related things from propagandist

https://qz.com/china-life-expectancy-exceeds-us-1849483265

fuck they’re making their big demographic crisis even bigger

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-05/canada-stabbings-10-killed/101405142

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Woodie said:

dv said:

Is China still under a national zero Covid lockdown? Haven’t heard nuttin’ about that one for weeks now.

Chengdu in Sichuan, population 21m is in lockdown most recently.

Various areas are.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/31/china-places-millions-into-covid-lockdown-again-as-economy-continues-to-struggle

ah well thankfully all these cancellations and delays are caused by any other reason at all except what cannot be said and certainly cannot be prevented

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-05/jetstar-bali-flights-cancelled-leaving-travellers-stranded/101407188

LOL

nice, well played, good to see this getting started after preventative measures are rolled back

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/significant-health-challenges-inquiry-to-probe-long-covid-s-impact-on-the-nation-20220905-p5bfhy.html

A federal parliamentary inquiry will investigate the impact of long COVID and repeat coronavirus infections on the nation after Treasury revealed tens of thousands of workers a day were calling in sick during the winter peak. The inquiry by the House of Representatives health committee, chaired by Labor MP for Macarthur and south-west Sydney paediatrician Dr Mike Freelander, will examine the health, social, educational and economic impacts of COVID-19.

Australian Medical Association president Professor Steve Robson has pointed to “a total tsunami of long COVID in the community” to argue against national cabinet’s decision last week to reduce mandatory isolation from seven to five days, starting this Friday.

Of the nine MPs on the cross-party committee, four are doctors: Freelander, independent Kooyong MP Dr Monique Ryan, Higgins Labor MP Dr Michelle Ananda-Rajah and Robertson Labor MP Dr Gordon Reid.

Asked if he would be prepared to support public health measures to prevent long and/or repeated COVID if recommended by the inquiry, Health Minister Mark Butler said: “I look forward to the committee’s inquiry so we can better understand this condition.”

so the answer is no then

SCIENCE said:

nice, well played, good to see this getting started after preventative measures are rolled back

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/significant-health-challenges-inquiry-to-probe-long-covid-s-impact-on-the-nation-20220905-p5bfhy.html

A federal parliamentary inquiry will investigate the impact of long COVID and repeat coronavirus infections on the nation after Treasury revealed tens of thousands of workers a day were calling in sick during the winter peak. The inquiry by the House of Representatives health committee, chaired by Labor MP for Macarthur and south-west Sydney paediatrician Dr Mike Freelander, will examine the health, social, educational and economic impacts of COVID-19.

Australian Medical Association president Professor Steve Robson has pointed to “a total tsunami of long COVID in the community” to argue against national cabinet’s decision last week to reduce mandatory isolation from seven to five days, starting this Friday.

Of the nine MPs on the cross-party committee, four are doctors: Freelander, independent Kooyong MP Dr Monique Ryan, Higgins Labor MP Dr Michelle Ananda-Rajah and Robertson Labor MP Dr Gordon Reid.

Asked if he would be prepared to support public health measures to prevent long and/or repeated COVID if recommended by the inquiry, Health Minister Mark Butler said: “I look forward to the committee’s inquiry so we can better understand this condition.”

so the answer is no then

it’s like fucken derrr, if the we had more of’t the we’d understand it better

a monstrous derrr, gets by on normal being that which you don’t have to explain

imagine all the devious bullshit in the world if normal is that

you don’t even need a working concept of normal, hardly, no thought required

SCIENCE said:

ah well thankfully all these cancellations and delays are caused by any other reason at all except what cannot be said and certainly cannot be prevented

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-05/jetstar-bali-flights-cancelled-leaving-travellers-stranded/101407188

LOL

don’t tell me the economy is choking on covid, or everything’s just a bit slow because the live-virus-booster mass immunization hasn’t been rapid enough

what-plague-dumb

plague blindness

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

nice, well played, good to see this getting started after preventative measures are rolled back

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/significant-health-challenges-inquiry-to-probe-long-covid-s-impact-on-the-nation-20220905-p5bfhy.html

A federal parliamentary inquiry will investigate the impact of long COVID and repeat coronavirus infections on the nation after Treasury revealed tens of thousands of workers a day were calling in sick during the winter peak. The inquiry by the House of Representatives health committee, chaired by Labor MP for Macarthur and south-west Sydney paediatrician Dr Mike Freelander, will examine the health, social, educational and economic impacts of COVID-19.

Australian Medical Association president Professor Steve Robson has pointed to “a total tsunami of long COVID in the community” to argue against national cabinet’s decision last week to reduce mandatory isolation from seven to five days, starting this Friday.

Of the nine MPs on the cross-party committee, four are doctors: Freelander, independent Kooyong MP Dr Monique Ryan, Higgins Labor MP Dr Michelle Ananda-Rajah and Robertson Labor MP Dr Gordon Reid.

Asked if he would be prepared to support public health measures to prevent long and/or repeated COVID if recommended by the inquiry, Health Minister Mark Butler said: “I look forward to the committee’s inquiry so we can better understand this condition.”

so the answer is no then

it’s like fucken derrr, if the we had more of’t the we’d understand it better

a monstrous derrr, gets by on normal being that which you don’t have to explain

imagine all the devious bullshit in the world if normal is that

you don’t even need a working concept of normal, hardly, no thought required

well hey

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

nice, well played, good to see this getting started after preventative measures are rolled back

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/significant-health-challenges-inquiry-to-probe-long-covid-s-impact-on-the-nation-20220905-p5bfhy.html

A federal parliamentary inquiry will investigate the impact of long COVID and repeat coronavirus infections on the nation after Treasury revealed tens of thousands of workers a day were calling in sick during the winter peak. The inquiry by the House of Representatives health committee, chaired by Labor MP for Macarthur and south-west Sydney paediatrician Dr Mike Freelander, will examine the health, social, educational and economic impacts of COVID-19.

Australian Medical Association president Professor Steve Robson has pointed to “a total tsunami of long COVID in the community” to argue against national cabinet’s decision last week to reduce mandatory isolation from seven to five days, starting this Friday.

Of the nine MPs on the cross-party committee, four are doctors: Freelander, independent Kooyong MP Dr Monique Ryan, Higgins Labor MP Dr Michelle Ananda-Rajah and Robertson Labor MP Dr Gordon Reid.

Asked if he would be prepared to support public health measures to prevent long and/or repeated COVID if recommended by the inquiry, Health Minister Mark Butler said: “I look forward to the committee’s inquiry so we can better understand this condition.”

so the answer is no then

it’s like fucken derrr, if the we had more of’t the we’d understand it better

a monstrous derrr, gets by on normal being that which you don’t have to explain

imagine all the devious bullshit in the world if normal is that

you don’t even need a working concept of normal, hardly, no thought required

well hey

an extraordinary corruption is the release of covid to wild status

we were going to say something but this so-called “expert” who knows nothing said it better so here yous all go

https://twitter.com/enenbee/status/1566583902634115073

changes will be implemented when the impact is less obvious. Then in the next wave when we need them, they will be gone

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/four-children-three-adults-taken-to-hospital-after-bus-veers-off-road-near-perisher-20220906-p5bfo2.html

Schrödingervirus

Good News ¡

SCIENCE said:

Schrödingervirus

once upon a time covid was considered more like the local or regional weather, but now you could conceive it more like global climate in the context of global warming, with a constant pressure on heating across the globe

although it’s never been a complete global pandemic, because China keeps resisting pressure to comply, the situation has in fact evolved into a global superpandemic

the job isn’t finished yet apparently, the worldist disease liberationists have still plenty work to do

they wants derrr equal same wherever people travels and lands

older article but pharque

https://woodgundyadvisors.cibc.com/documents/10180/5475163/Economic-Insights.pdf

you know when Imperial Banks start telling you to Knot instead of Let It Rip then it’s just reverse psychology and you should be spreading disease even harder

Look The Fucking Lying ASIANS Are Inventing Making Good Up Shit Again

https://fortune.com/2022/09/05/cansino-china-worlds-first-inhaled-vaccine-omicron/

China’s government approved the world’s first inhaled vaccine against COVID-19, the vaccine’s maker Cansino Biologics announced on Sunday. The vaccine, called Convidecia Air, changes the liquid form of the vaccine into an aerosol using a nebuilzer. The vaccine can then be inhaled through the mouth using the nebulizer machine. The needle-free vaccine “can effectively induce comprehensive immune protection in response to SARS-CoV-2 after just one breath,” Cansino said in a statement.

In July, Chinese scientists published a pre-print study showing that people who received one booster dose of Cansino’s inhaled vaccine after two doses of the inactivated jab from Chinese maker Sinovac developed more antibodies than people who received three Sinovac shots. Four weeks after receiving the inhaled booster, 92.5% of people had developed neutralizing antibodies for Omicron.

Cansino’s booster vaccine is an inhaled version of the one-shot, adenovirus COVID-19 jab that Cansino developed in partnership with the Chinese military-run Academy of Military Medical Sciences. The initial jab proved 66% effective in preventing infection, and 92% effective against severe disease in early clinical trials. It has been green-lit for use as a booster and primary vaccine dose by the Chinese government, World Health Organization, and several other countries.

China has already distributed over 3.4 billion doses to its citizens, providing two or more jabs to 89.7% of its population. By comparison, 66.8% of people in the U.S. have gotten two or more COVID-19 shots.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.07.26.22278072v1.full.pdf

disclaimer we haven’t peer reviewed

LOL

LOL

LOL

LOL

LOL

with thanks to https://twitter.com/FinchTH/status/1543259560256864259

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Cutting COVID isolation and mask mandates will mean more damage to business and health in the long run

https://theconversation.com/cutting-covid-isolation-and-mask-mandates-will-mean-more-damage-to-business-and-health-in-the-long-run-189862

typical Labor antibusiness style economic mismanagement

thou shalt have NFI where the covid pollution might be and converge on zero responsibility

doubt they have too many troubles making that so

what plague..

SCIENCE said:

LOL

SCIENCE said:

Who Needs A Royal Commission When You Can Tealwash Instead

there’s this crazy idea to elect professional people who menstruate to parliament

but how long before they become just like the other politicians

oops

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

typical Labor antibusiness style economic mismanagement

thou shalt have NFI where the covid pollution might be and converge on zero responsibility

doubt they have too many troubles making that so

what plague..

Covid is bad for the rich and the money addicts.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-06/china-sichuan-earthquake-death-toll-rises-to-65/101411082

Morning.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Morning.

ah well at least

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-07/doctors-warn-of-worsening-gp-shortage/101411978

it’s not COVID-19, goes without saying

SCIENCE said:

LOL

LOL

with thanks to https://twitter.com/FinchTH/status/1543259560256864259

survivor bias has a oblivious arrogance about it

I mean I do kind of ventilate the kids’ bedrooms …

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL

LOL

with thanks to https://twitter.com/FinchTH/status/1543259560256864259

survivor bias has a oblivious arrogance about it

I ought offer some dumb ideas myself, perhaps allergy sufferers can put a bunch of flower in their pillow cases and sleep with it, assist desensitization

yeah like fucken derrr

dv said:

I mean I do kind of ventilate the kids’ bedrooms …

You do so mollycoddle those two.

ChrispenEvan said:

yeah haven’t been on QuakeNet for like ever

transition said:

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not like you and me, we recall the last mini ice age

and while sitting here, may as well study my ignorance some

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age
“..The Little Ice Age (LIA) was a period of regional cooling, particularly pronounced in the North Atlantic region, that occurred after the Medieval Warm Period. It was not a true ice age of global extent. The term was introduced into scientific literature by François E. Matthes in 1939. The time period has been conventionally defined as extending from the 16th to the 19th centuries, but some experts prefer an alternative timespan from about 1300 to about 1850.

The NASA Earth Observatory notes three particularly cold intervals. One began about 1650, another about 1770, and the last in 1850, all of which were separated by intervals of slight warming. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment Report considered that the timing and the areas affected by the Little Ice Age suggested largely independent regional climate changes, rather than a globally synchronous increased glaciation. At most, there was modest cooling of the Northern Hemisphere during the period.

Several causes have been proposed: cyclical lows in solar radiation, heightened volcanic activity, changes in the ocean circulation, variations in Earth’s orbit and axial tilt (orbital forcing), inherent variability in global climate, and decreases in the human population (such as from the Black Death and the epidemics emerging in the Americas upon European contact..”

“..Historians have argued that cultural responses to the consequences of the Little Ice Age in Europe consisted of violent scapegoating. The prolonged cold, dry periods brought drought upon many European communities and resulted in poor crop growth, poor livestock survival, and increased activity of pathogens and disease vectors. Disease tends to intensify under the same conditions that unemployment and economic difficulties arise: prolonged cold, dry seasons. Disease and unemployment are outcomes that enhance each other and generate a lethal positive feedback loop. Although the communities had some contingency plans, such as better crop mixes, emergency grain stocks, and international food trade, they did not always prove effective. Communities often lashed out via violent crimes, including robbery and murder. Also, accusations of sexual offenses increased, such as adultery, bestiality, and rape. Europeans sought explanations for the famine, disease, and social unrest that they were experiencing, and they blamed the innocent. Evidence from several studies indicate that increases in violent actions against marginalized groups, which were held responsible for the Little Ice Age, overlap with the years of particularly cold, dry weather.

One example of the violent scapegoating occurring during the Little Ice Age was the resurgence of witchcraft trials, as argued by Oster (2004) and Behringer (1999). They argue that the resurgence was brought by the climatic decline. Prior to the Little Ice Age, “witchcraft” was considered an insignificant crime, and victims were rarely accused. But beginning in the 1380s, just as the Little Ice Age began, European populations began to link magic and weather-making..”

did you say

Disease and unemployment are outcomes that enhance each other and generate a lethal positive feedback loop.

Laugh The Fuck Out Loud Who Would Have Thought

Fuck CHINA, For Lying And Artificially Inflating Their Case Numbers By Daily Reporting To Hide … Uh … The Impact Of Interrupting Transmission

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-07/covid-19-statistics-to-be-reported-weekly-health-ministers-say/101414964

SCIENCE said:

Look The Fucking Lying ASIANS Are Inventing Making Good Up Shit Again

https://fortune.com/2022/09/05/cansino-china-worlds-first-inhaled-vaccine-omicron/

China’s government approved the world’s first inhaled vaccine against COVID-19, the vaccine’s maker Cansino Biologics announced on Sunday. The vaccine, called Convidecia Air, changes the liquid form of the vaccine into an aerosol using a nebuilzer. The vaccine can then be inhaled through the mouth using the nebulizer machine. The needle-free vaccine “can effectively induce comprehensive immune protection in response to SARS-CoV-2 after just one breath,” Cansino said in a statement.

In July, Chinese scientists published a pre-print study showing that people who received one booster dose of Cansino’s inhaled vaccine after two doses of the inactivated jab from Chinese maker Sinovac developed more antibodies than people who received three Sinovac shots. Four weeks after receiving the inhaled booster, 92.5% of people had developed neutralizing antibodies for Omicron.

Cansino’s booster vaccine is an inhaled version of the one-shot, adenovirus COVID-19 jab that Cansino developed in partnership with the Chinese military-run Academy of Military Medical Sciences. The initial jab proved 66% effective in preventing infection, and 92% effective against severe disease in early clinical trials. It has been green-lit for use as a booster and primary vaccine dose by the Chinese government, World Health Organization, and several other countries.

China has already distributed over 3.4 billion doses to its citizens, providing two or more jabs to 89.7% of its population. By comparison, 66.8% of people in the U.S. have gotten two or more COVID-19 shots.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.07.26.22278072v1.full.pdf

disclaimer we haven’t peer reviewed

only fair to include the other as well

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/bharat-biotechs-covid-19-nasal-vaccine-approved-for-restricted-use-in-india/articleshow/94026222.cms

Bharat Biotech’s Covid-19 nasal vaccine approved for restricted use in India

fucking ASIANS and their medicines and lies

Drugs Controller General of India (DCGI) approved Bharat Biotech’s Covid-19 recombinant nasal vaccine, health minister Mansukh Mandaviya tweeted on Tuesday. Notably, this will be India’s first nasal vaccine for coronavirus.

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-06/china-sichuan-earthquake-death-toll-rises-to-65/101411082

yeah but

those 75 probably all had preexisting conditions, whereas the 65 probably didn’t even have COVID-19 to cause any preexisting conditions so of course they deserved to be reported

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-06/china-sichuan-earthquake-death-toll-rises-to-65/101411082

yeah but

those 75 probably all had preexisting conditions, whereas the 65 probably didn’t even have COVID-19 to cause any preexisting conditions so of course they deserved to be reported

What might be a ‘pre-existing condition’ that facilitates a death by earthquake?

‘Yeah, well, he stood on a wobbly table once, so it’s hardly surprising, is it?’

I see that the states aren’t going to publish daily stats after Friday. I guess it’ll just be weekly or monthly from then on.
The reason they give is something like the numbers are quite small now so nothing much to see. Great comfort for the friends & rellies of the 14,000+ people that have died from it. :(

Spiny Norman said:

I see that the states aren’t going to publish daily stats after Friday. I guess it’ll just be weekly or monthly from then on.
The reason they give is something like the numbers are quite small now so nothing much to see. Great comfort for the friends & rellies of the 14,000+ people that have died from it. :(

isn’t it better this way, now there’ll be a visually confronting number of deaths dropping every so often, and maybe it’ll get more attention

SCIENCE said:

Spiny Norman said:

I see that the states aren’t going to publish daily stats after Friday. I guess it’ll just be weekly or monthly from then on.
The reason they give is something like the numbers are quite small now so nothing much to see. Great comfort for the friends & rellies of the 14,000+ people that have died from it. :(

isn’t it better this way, now there’ll be a visually confronting number of deaths dropping every so often, and maybe it’ll get more attention

sort of the opposite of prevention, longer the reporting totals lag, slower the feedback the less chance of turning it around, and nothing short of being invaded by the chinese will do that, and on we go with our soft-Darwinian friends, killing and maiming

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

Spiny Norman said:

I see that the states aren’t going to publish daily stats after Friday. I guess it’ll just be weekly or monthly from then on.
The reason they give is something like the numbers are quite small now so nothing much to see. Great comfort for the friends & rellies of the 14,000+ people that have died from it. :(

isn’t it better this way, now there’ll be a visually confronting number of deaths dropping every so often, and maybe it’ll get more attention

sort of the opposite of prevention, longer the reporting totals lag, slower the feedback the less chance of turning it around, and nothing short of being invaded by the chinese will do that, and on we go with our soft-Darwinian friends, killing and maiming

leaves space for reminders and better messaging

Cutting COVID isolation and mask mandates will mean more damage to business and health in the long run

https://theconversation.com/amp/cutting-covid-isolation-and-mask-mandates-will-mean-more-damage-to-business-and-health-in-the-long-run-189862

more lies

No more daily stats from this Friday onwards.

Spiny Norman said:

No more daily stats from this Friday onwards.
/..cut by me master transition../

all helps with it’s done now and consolidates the view the virus is in consistent decline, the we-indifferent is on the road to normal, there ya go slip it into the category of common colds

just fade all the killing and maiming, get ya direction from the master obliviators, the hypnotists

Witty Rejoinder said:

Cutting COVID isolation and mask mandates will mean more damage to business and health in the long run

https://theconversation.com/amp/cutting-covid-isolation-and-mask-mandates-will-mean-more-damage-to-business-and-health-in-the-long-run-189862

I heard a rumor today that long-covid clinics have turned into secret laboratories for studying the ghost in the machine, and they’ve started cutting heads of chickens and watching them run around for improved perspective re plague-induced lethargy

SCIENCE said:

two tenuously related things from propagandist

https://qz.com/china-life-expectancy-exceeds-us-1849483265

fuck they’re making their big demographic crisis even bigger

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

two tenuously related things from propagandist

https://qz.com/china-life-expectancy-exceeds-us-1849483265

fuck they’re making their big demographic crisis even bigger

Imagine thinking the US trends are typical of “The West”

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

two tenuously related things from propagandist

https://qz.com/china-life-expectancy-exceeds-us-1849483265

fuck they’re making their big demographic crisis even bigger

Imagine thinking the US trends are typical of “The West”

For population growth curves, US led the world in defining birth trends. Declining birth rate, overshooting, slowly coming back up and stabilising. Now every country in “The West” is following suit.

Yes, US trends can be typical of The West.

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

Imagine thinking the US trends are typical of “The West”

For population growth curves, US led the world in defining birth trends. Declining birth rate, overshooting, slowly coming back up and stabilising. Now every country in “The West” is following suit.

Yes, US trends can be typical of The West.

Nope. The rest of the West is pushing on towards life expectancies in the mid-80s. Only the US is going the wrong way.

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

Imagine thinking the US trends are typical of “The West”

For population growth curves, US led the world in defining birth trends. Declining birth rate, overshooting, slowly coming back up and stabilising. Now every country in “The West” is following suit.

Yes, US trends can be typical of The West.

Nope. The rest of the West is pushing on towards life expectancies in the mid-80s. Only the US is going the wrong way.

It’s the grousest health system they have, world leading.

sibeen said:

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

For population growth curves, US led the world in defining birth trends. Declining birth rate, overshooting, slowly coming back up and stabilising. Now every country in “The West” is following suit.

Yes, US trends can be typical of The West.

Nope. The rest of the West is pushing on towards life expectancies in the mid-80s. Only the US is going the wrong way.

It’s the grousest health system they have, world leading.

well look we haven’t asked every neonate in the world but not sure “pushing on” is the correct description for example

https://www.destatis.de/EN/Press/2022/07/PE22_313_12621.html

WIESBADEN – The average life expectancy of newborn girls was 83.2 years and that of newborn boys 78.2 years in 2021. The Federal Statistical Office (Destatis) also reports that the life expectancy of newborns fell markedly compared with 2019, the last year before the pandemic. For boys it was down by 0.6 years, for girls by 0.4 years. The main reason for this development is unusually high death figures during the Covid-19 waves. The development of life expectancy shows changes in mortality that are independent of the age structure. It is therefore particularly well suited for comparisons over time.

then again who would trust those fascists at the Federal Statistical Office of Germany anyway

SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

Nope. The rest of the West is pushing on towards life expectancies in the mid-80s. Only the US is going the wrong way.

It’s the grousest health system they have, world leading.

well look we haven’t asked every neonate in the world but not sure “pushing on” is the correct description for example

https://www.destatis.de/EN/Press/2022/07/PE22_313_12621.html

WIESBADEN – The average life expectancy of newborn girls was 83.2 years and that of newborn boys 78.2 years in 2021. The Federal Statistical Office (Destatis) also reports that the life expectancy of newborns fell markedly compared with 2019, the last year before the pandemic. For boys it was down by 0.6 years, for girls by 0.4 years. The main reason for this development is unusually high death figures during the Covid-19 waves. The development of life expectancy shows changes in mortality that are independent of the age structure. It is therefore particularly well suited for comparisons over time.

then again who would trust those fascists at the Federal Statistical Office of Germany anyway

Yeah but who cares about boys…

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:

It’s the grousest health system they have, world leading.

well look we haven’t asked every neonate in the world but not sure “pushing on” is the correct description for example

https://www.destatis.de/EN/Press/2022/07/PE22_313_12621.html

WIESBADEN – The average life expectancy of newborn girls was 83.2 years and that of newborn boys 78.2 years in 2021. The Federal Statistical Office (Destatis) also reports that the life expectancy of newborns fell markedly compared with 2019, the last year before the pandemic. For boys it was down by 0.6 years, for girls by 0.4 years. The main reason for this development is unusually high death figures during the Covid-19 waves. The development of life expectancy shows changes in mortality that are independent of the age structure. It is therefore particularly well suited for comparisons over time.

then again who would trust those fascists at the Federal Statistical Office of Germany anyway

Yeah but who cares about boys…

Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

well look we haven’t asked every neonate in the world but not sure “pushing on” is the correct description for example

https://www.destatis.de/EN/Press/2022/07/PE22_313_12621.html

WIESBADEN – The average life expectancy of newborn girls was 83.2 years and that of newborn boys 78.2 years in 2021. The Federal Statistical Office (Destatis) also reports that the life expectancy of newborns fell markedly compared with 2019, the last year before the pandemic. For boys it was down by 0.6 years, for girls by 0.4 years. The main reason for this development is unusually high death figures during the Covid-19 waves. The development of life expectancy shows changes in mortality that are independent of the age structure. It is therefore particularly well suited for comparisons over time.

then again who would trust those fascists at the Federal Statistical Office of Germany anyway

Yeah but who cares about boys…

Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger

But only so they can join the Hitler youth.

The End

LOL they just want to be with their queen

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-09/sa-highest-number-of-covid-19-deaths-today/101423808

SCIENCE said:

LOL they just want to be with their queen

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-09/sa-highest-number-of-covid-19-deaths-today/101423808

reconciled some data back to end of april quick read indicated, as recall if I interpreted right, I was really quick in there I didn’t want to catch anything, notions perhaps that help people normalize plague, killing and maiming that way, covid gregariousness, libertarian notions attached

so I pulled the psychological prophylactic over my head, went in for a brief shallow feel was all

still haven’t had covid

Arts said:

still haven’t had covid

me neither. Bummer ain’t it?

Arts said:

still haven’t had covid

Me neither, that I know of.

ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

still haven’t had covid

me neither. Bummer ain’t it?

I’m not bummed aboout that.

Peak Warming Man said:

Arts said:

still haven’t had covid

Me neither, that I know of.

This.

so there’s this in the Boston Herald pointing to distress predisposing (some) people to long covid, and I don’t doubt there’s likely something in that

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/long-covid-research-stress-anxiety-depression-before-covid-infection-increases-long-covid-risk/ar-AA11A0OG

then there’s this in the Wall Street Journal, which I don’t doubt there’s something likely true about that

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-key-to-long-covid-is-virus-lingering-in-the-body-scientists-say-11662590900

I might add some wild conjecture

that not all immune systems (or functions) are equal, and having a not-so-good one generates extra stress, people are more operating at their limits, both contribute to making sustained low level infection more likely, it’s harder to clear, takes a longer time

it’s a bit of a derr to think there is just equal good immune systems, and anything else must qualify as immunocompromised

so you could stay with the idiocy of a conceptual binary and expand immunocompromised range, that would of course be to medicalize a greater range, or you might assume the normal range is more unequal, like a person might do regard allergies for example

but don’t you mind now, about the likely immunological inequality

transition said:

so there’s this in the Boston Herald pointing to distress predisposing (some) people to long covid, and I don’t doubt there’s likely something in that

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/long-covid-research-stress-anxiety-depression-before-covid-infection-increases-long-covid-risk/ar-AA11A0OG

then there’s this in the Wall Street Journal, which I don’t doubt there’s something likely true about that

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-key-to-long-covid-is-virus-lingering-in-the-body-scientists-say-11662590900

I might add some wild conjecture

that not all immune systems (or functions) are equal, and having a not-so-good one generates extra stress, people are more operating at their limits, both contribute to making sustained low level infection more likely, it’s harder to clear, takes a longer time

it’s a bit of a derr to think there is just equal good immune systems, and anything else must qualify as immunocompromised

so you could stay with the idiocy of a conceptual binary and expand immunocompromised range, that would of course be to medicalize a greater range, or you might assume the normal range is more unequal, like a person might do regard allergies for example

but don’t you mind now, about the likely immunological inequality

not something that needs thinking too hard about we reckon, consider https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK538239/ where you have

widely known as the body’s stress hormone, Cortisol has a variety of effects

they induce apoptosis of proinflammatory T cells, suppress B cell antibody production, and reduce neutrophil migration during inflammation

the end

Witty Rejoinder said:

excellent this should bring up the intelligence of the population

Arts said:

Cymek said:

Arts said:

I caught the train to work to day Cyme and they aren’t to concerned with people not wearing masks… I know the mask mandate ends today, but I didn’t wear one at all and no-one said a thing…

People didn’t seemed worried no

ah well, seems like we can put this whole COVID shenanigan behind us now.. SCIENCE will be happy .. (however I still want them to post on the forum so don’t tell them that COvID is over just yet)

what, it’s been over for like 9 months now, all personal irresponsibility and everything down that alley, which is pretty dark when they haven’t made actual preventative measures like P2 masks available for anyone who does want protection, but the fights are shifted

in this entertaining thread, gymnasts and contortionists reconcile the idea of an aged care demographic crisis with the implausibility of rising life expectancies in a dirty ASIAN country

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1567548350035070976

as you can see https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1568273204728446976 alarmists are already exploiting the monarchic succession crisis to blame COVID-19 for more societal ills

oh wait it’s legit’ damn

it is claimed that there was a close temporal relationship

https://twitter.com/ByrneLuc/status/1568026068996751360

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

LOL they just want to be with their queen

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-09/sa-highest-number-of-covid-19-deaths-today/101423808

reconciled some data back to end of april quick read indicated, as recall if I interpreted right, I was really quick in there I didn’t want to catch anything, notions perhaps that help people normalize plague, killing and maiming that way, covid gregariousness, libertarian notions attached

so I pulled the psychological prophylactic over my head, went in for a brief shallow feel was all

Sad but predictable to see all the Labour bigwigs and lefty columnists falling into line in the Royal pantomime, welcoming chucklehead and weeping over Her Majesty etc.

Many of these same people often criticise the “born-to-rule” mentality that routinely sees Eton graduates in all the top jobs etc.

Yet here they are still endorsing the most primitive “born-to-rule” fantasy of the lot, the model for so much unwarranted institutionalised privilege.

It’s supposedly inappropriate to not mourn a famous person dying even though they really have no connection to you at all.

meanwhile yet another truckload of SARACAIDS-CoV factories shut down for good and barely a peep

A plastic film that can kill viruses using room lights

Researchers at Queen’s University Belfast have developed a plastic film that can kill viruses that land on its surface with room light. The self-sterilizing film is the first of its kind—it is low cost to produce, can be readily scaled and could be used for disposable aprons, tablecloths, and curtains in hospitals. It is coated with a thin layer of particles that absorb UV light and produce reactive oxygen species—ROS. These kill viruses, including SARS-CoV-2.

more…

dv said:

China with their zero tolerance of covid, now have close to the total population of the USA in lockdown. This with other economic problems they are experiencing, it is predicted they will go into recession with a massive downturn in production within the next twelve months.

Scientists find COVID-19 antibodies that can make boosters unnecessary.

Researchers at Tel Aviv University found two antibodies that neutralize all known strains of COVID-19 with up to 95% efficiency.

In a major breakthrough in the battle with the COVID-19 pandemic, Tel Aviv University researchers have isolated two antibodies that neutralize all known strains of COVID-19 – including Omicron – with up to 95% efficiency and will strengthen the immune systems of people at risk.

Targeted treatment with antibodies and their delivery to the body in high concentrations may serve as an effective substitute for vaccines, especially for at-risk populations and those with weakened immune systems, according to the researchers. By using antibody treatment, there is a possibility that the need to provide repeated booster shots to the entire population every time a new variant emerges will be eliminated.

More – https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/article-716545

Spiny Norman said:

Scientists find COVID-19 antibodies that can make boosters unnecessary.

Researchers at Tel Aviv University found two antibodies that neutralize all known strains of COVID-19 with up to 95% efficiency.

In a major breakthrough in the battle with the COVID-19 pandemic, Tel Aviv University researchers have isolated two antibodies that neutralize all known strains of COVID-19 – including Omicron – with up to 95% efficiency and will strengthen the immune systems of people at risk.

Targeted treatment with antibodies and their delivery to the body in high concentrations may serve as an effective substitute for vaccines, especially for at-risk populations and those with weakened immune systems, according to the researchers. By using antibody treatment, there is a possibility that the need to provide repeated booster shots to the entire population every time a new variant emerges will be eliminated.

More – https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/article-716545

nice, looking forward to a heap of serum sickness excellent profit for the manufacturers with an interest in prolonging dementiavirus pandemics

SCIENCE said:

Spiny Norman said:

Scientists find COVID-19 antibodies that can make boosters unnecessary.

Researchers at Tel Aviv University found two antibodies that neutralize all known strains of COVID-19 with up to 95% efficiency.

In a major breakthrough in the battle with the COVID-19 pandemic, Tel Aviv University researchers have isolated two antibodies that neutralize all known strains of COVID-19 – including Omicron – with up to 95% efficiency and will strengthen the immune systems of people at risk.

Targeted treatment with antibodies and their delivery to the body in high concentrations may serve as an effective substitute for vaccines, especially for at-risk populations and those with weakened immune systems, according to the researchers. By using antibody treatment, there is a possibility that the need to provide repeated booster shots to the entire population every time a new variant emerges will be eliminated.

More – https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/article-716545

nice, looking forward to a heap of serum sickness excellent profit for the manufacturers with an interest in prolonging dementiavirus pandemics

Why not simply produce an autism serum?

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

Spiny Norman said:

Scientists find COVID-19 antibodies that can make boosters unnecessary.

Researchers at Tel Aviv University found two antibodies that neutralize all known strains of COVID-19 with up to 95% efficiency.

In a major breakthrough in the battle with the COVID-19 pandemic, Tel Aviv University researchers have isolated two antibodies that neutralize all known strains of COVID-19 – including Omicron – with up to 95% efficiency and will strengthen the immune systems of people at risk.

Targeted treatment with antibodies and their delivery to the body in high concentrations may serve as an effective substitute for vaccines, especially for at-risk populations and those with weakened immune systems, according to the researchers. By using antibody treatment, there is a possibility that the need to provide repeated booster shots to the entire population every time a new variant emerges will be eliminated.

More – https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/article-716545

nice, looking forward to a heap of serum sickness excellent profit for the manufacturers with an interest in prolonging dementiavirus pandemics

Why not simply produce an autism serum?

That’s right, why stimulate your own immune system to fight pathogens when you can just inject part of someone else’s for a high price and extra risks¡¿

LOL

did anyone say shit like “revolutionary new tools like vaccination and antiviral medications make this disease no worse than influenza” or “we can all go back to normal with an annual shot and a script whenever we need” or so forth

SCIENCE said:

did anyone say shit

LOL

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-10/long-covid-costs-australia-economy-3-6-billion-a-year-report

Long Covid is costing the Australian economy the equivalent of $3.6 billion a year in lost output, the Australian Financial Review reported, citing an exclusive data analysis. Based on data from the country’s Treasury estimating some 31,000 workers called in sick because of the condition in June, the analysis by think tank Impact Economics and Policy found the economic cost came in at A$100 million ($68 million) a week, according to the AFR. That amounts to some A$5.2 billion on an annual basis.

never heard of them but they look like a bunch of communists who would say that

oh wait

Long Covid is estimated to cost the US alone $3.7 trillion, another Harvard study showed.

LOL

SCIENCE said:

LOL

¿¡¿¿

https://australianaviation.com.au/2022/08/320-qantas-pilots-call-in-sick-every-day-says-joyce/

Qantas has revealed around 320 pilots are calling in sick each day as the airline battles to keep service levels up amid COVID-19 isolation rules.

look at the bastard opportunists using the demise of dear leader to fight for infection control for the masses

remember this gem

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/

¡ ahahahahaha look alarmists are quoting old articles like new hahahahahah !

oh

wait

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-12/papua-new-guinea-earthquake-kills-at-least-four/101428186

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-12/pakistan-tourist-drowns-off-rocks-at-chapmans-point-esperance/101431444

It is understood that the man’s death marks the eighth rocks-related fatality off the Esperance coast since 2012. On December 2, 2020 tourist Faycal Al Saidi drowned after being washed off rocks at Salmon Beach while taking pictures.

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-12/pakistan-tourist-drowns-off-rocks-at-chapmans-point-esperance/101431444

It is understood that the man’s death marks the eighth rocks-related fatality off the Esperance coast since 2012. On December 2, 2020 tourist Faycal Al Saidi drowned after being washed off rocks at Salmon Beach while taking pictures.

Algie grows on the rocks where the waves wash over the granite making it extremely slippery even on a gentle slope. Get anywhere on the slippery stuff and you are likely to end up in the water. It looks safe but it is far from it.

Flu-like illnesses still on the decline in Australia.

mollwollfumble said:

Flu-like illnesses still on the decline in Australia.

Eradicate Them All

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-14/covid-pandemic-leave-payments-extended/101438020

COVID-19 pandemic leave payments to be kept as long as mandatory isolation is required

softening up for imminent unrequirement

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-14/covid-pandemic-leave-payments-extended/101438020

COVID-19 pandemic leave payments to be kept as long as mandatory isolation is required

softening up for imminent unrequirement

fairly much, that’s the trajectory, the noises in the aether, has the doublespeak about it to that end

extending means abolish

SCIENCE said:

look at the bastard opportunists using the demise of dear leader to fight for infection control for the masses

¿ what happened ?

https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/virgin-australia-says-high-staff-illness-rates-hampering-capacity-lifting-fares-2

“It is people capacity, not aircraft capacity,” Virgin Chief Executive Jayne Hrdlicka said of the problems at a CAPA Centre for Aviation conference. “Hopefully by Christmastime it is a bit more back to normal.” Virgin, like Qantas, has faced a rise in flight delays and cancellations amid high crew illness rates and a shortage of airport workers, though it has not come under as intense public scrutiny as the national carrier. “What none of us fully factored was the strain that puts on a business when you go so long partly dormant and you go to high mode and it is sustainably high,” Hrdlicka said.

wait we thought killing and disabling more people would make The Economy Must Grow bigger

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-14/covid-pandemic-leave-payments-extended/101438020

COVID-19 pandemic leave payments to be kept as long as mandatory isolation is required

softening up for imminent unrequirement

fairly much, that’s the trajectory, the noises in the aether, has the doublespeak about it to that end

extending means abolish

wait up wait up there’s some rustling in the back there

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/independent-mp-calls-on-government-to-rethink-covid-management/101437210

LOL

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-warns-enterovirus-d68-muscle-weakness-kids-rcna47362

The CDC issued an alert Friday about enterovirus D68, which most commonly leads to respiratory illness among kids, with symptoms that are often mild but can become severe. The enterovirus family is large, and polio falls within it; both EV-D68 and poliovirus can invade the nervous system and cause muscle weakness. Occasionally, EV-D68 can result in a condition called acute flaccid myelitis, or AFM, which is characterized by inflammation in the neck region of the spinal cord. Some people who experience AFM have difficulty moving their arms, while others experience weakness in all four extremities. During a large outbreak in the U.S. in 2014, around 10% of people diagnosed with EV-D68 went on to develop AFM, but the condition is likely rarer than that, since not everyone gets tested for EV-D68. Full recovery from AFM is rare, and although most patients improve to some extent, the process is often difficult, and it requires rehabilitation.

The CDC this year has identified more EV-D68 cases among children with severe respiratory illness than in the past three years combined. There were 84 such cases from March through Aug. 4. By comparison, the CDC identified six such cases in 2019, 30 in 2020 and 16 in 2021. Those figures are likely to be undercounts, however. As of Sept. 2, 13 cases of AFM have been confirmed this year in the U.S. The CDC said it is investigating 20 additional cases. In the past, the CDC has recorded spikes in EV-D68 cases every other year. Before the coronavirus pandemic, that was in 2014, 2016 and 2018. Dr. Benjamin Greenberg, a neurologist at UT Southwestern’s O’Donnell Brain Institute who treats patients at Children’s Health in Dallas, said the pattern most likely appears because kids develop immunity to the enterovirus when it spreads, leading to “off” years with higher population immunity. Once the immunity wanes, case numbers tick up again.

Dr. Sarah Hopkins, a pediatric neurologist at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, said: “We really thought this was going to happen in 2020, because we had the last spike in 2018. But then with mask-wearing and social distancing and all those things that limit the spread of a respiratory virus, we didn’t have that expected spike.” There are no specific treatments for AFM. Doctors may provide antibody therapy to improve a patient’s immune response or administer supportive care, like ventilators or fluids. The best way to protect yourself or your kids from EV-D68, experts said, is to be diligent about hand-washing and to wear a mask in public.

New USSA Target Life Expectancy Set At 64 Years

SCIENCE said:

New USSA Target Life Expectancy Set At 64 Years

I note that they seem to have stopped counting in NSW at least.

SCIENCE said:

LOL

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-warns-enterovirus-d68-muscle-weakness-kids-rcna47362

USSA Confirmed As Yet Another Shithole Country

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2022/s0913-polio.html

this attempt at humour in meme format to push back against disinformation fails, because it turns out that the vaccine alleged to cause autism was not the poliomyelitis one

SCIENCE said:

this attempt at humour in meme format to push back against disinformation fails, because it turns out that the vaccine alleged to cause autism was not the poliomyelitis one

He was correct about one thing. can’t get autism.

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look at the bastard opportunists using the demise of dear leader to fight for infection control for the masses

¿ what happened ?

https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/virgin-australia-says-high-staff-illness-rates-hampering-capacity-lifting-fares-2

“It is people capacity, not aircraft capacity,” Virgin Chief Executive Jayne Hrdlicka said of the problems at a CAPA Centre for Aviation conference. “Hopefully by Christmastime it is a bit more back to normal.” Virgin, like Qantas, has faced a rise in flight delays and cancellations amid high crew illness rates and a shortage of airport workers, though it has not come under as intense public scrutiny as the national carrier. “What none of us fully factored was the strain that puts on a business when you go so long partly dormant and you go to high mode and it is sustainably high,” Hrdlicka said.

wait we thought killing and disabling more people would make The Economy Must Grow bigger

I think the force of ideology has resulted in ignorance (sustained an ignorance with added force) about extended convalescence required for many people, in context of repeat infections, lot of people don’t clear the infection easily (for many people it’s nearer a persistent low level infection), and for people already functioning at their limits infection pushes them further toward the limit, more on the limits

a lot of people function at quite a high level for their particular overall fitness, and I mean fitness to mean more the level of performance adaptation of whatever example, and the background to that is native fitness, dare I mention native anything

repeat and low level infection adds to stress, or to put it another way serious effort hurts, effort is not equal for everyone

are there no ideological devices today, none that involve a lot of people be similarly blind as a virus, is there no blinding

A bit of fun reading for the blokes.

https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/health/urologist-on-why-covid-can-shrink-your-penis/news-story/38f9933dac6ef13e9c7a9222075d4ed3

Spiny Norman said:

A bit of fun reading for the blokes.

https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/health/urologist-on-why-covid-can-shrink-your-penis/news-story/38f9933dac6ef13e9c7a9222075d4ed3

You have a strange idea of fun :)

Spiny Norman said:

A bit of fun reading for the blokes.

https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/health/urologist-on-why-covid-can-shrink-your-penis/news-story/38f9933dac6ef13e9c7a9222075d4ed3

:) I didn’t need covid for that.

remember this, it was ages ago

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/pilots-reported-to-fall-asleep-ethiopian-airlines/index.html

roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

A bit of fun reading for the blokes.

https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/health/urologist-on-why-covid-can-shrink-your-penis/news-story/38f9933dac6ef13e9c7a9222075d4ed3

:) I didn’t need covid for that.

maybe it’s just a marketing ploy

In these cases the first step was a daily low-dose of Viagra but he says recently there are new stretching devices such as RestoreX to help get back that missing length. He also suggests vacuum erection devices for some potential benefit too.

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roughbarked said:

Spiny Norman said:

A bit of fun reading for the blokes.

https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/health/urologist-on-why-covid-can-shrink-your-penis/news-story/38f9933dac6ef13e9c7a9222075d4ed3

:) I didn’t need covid for that.

maybe it’s just a marketing ploy

In these cases the first step was a daily low-dose of Viagra but he says recently there are new stretching devices such as RestoreX to help get back that missing length. He also suggests vacuum erection devices for some potential benefit too.

Ah. The good old penis pump. Geddings Osbon.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

:) I didn’t need covid for that.

maybe it’s just a marketing ploy

In these cases the first step was a daily low-dose of Viagra but he says recently there are new stretching devices such as RestoreX to help get back that missing length. He also suggests vacuum erection devices for some potential benefit too.

Ah. The good old penis pump. Geddings Osbon.

here’s another pump of the same topic, at greater length

https://twitter.com/MeetJess/status/1569864021897265152

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

maybe it’s just a marketing ploy

In these cases the first step was a daily low-dose of Viagra but he says recently there are new stretching devices such as RestoreX to help get back that missing length. He also suggests vacuum erection devices for some potential benefit too.

Ah. The good old penis pump. Geddings Osbon.

here’s another pump of the same topic, at greater length

https://twitter.com/MeetJess/status/1569864021897265152

That’s stretching it.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Ah. The good old penis pump. Geddings Osbon.

here’s another pump of the same topic, at greater length

https://twitter.com/MeetJess/status/1569864021897265152

That’s stretching it.

just pulled it out of a twitter feed

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

here’s another pump of the same topic, at greater length

https://twitter.com/MeetJess/status/1569864021897265152

That’s stretching it.

just pulled it out of a twitter feed

So you did the early bird out of its worm?

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

That’s stretching it.

just pulled it out of a twitter feed

So you did the early bird out of its worm?

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

just pulled it out of a twitter feed

So you did the early bird out of its worm?

The do glow in the right light.

“cannot” = “must not” = “shall not”

SCIENCE said:

“cannot” = “must not” = “shall not”

My old man always said, “can’t means won’t”.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

So you did the early bird out of its worm?

The do glow in the right light.

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Have you ever had a TURPS procedure?

roughbarked said:

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CONTENT WARNING

Have you ever had a TURPS procedure?

we’ve been on the turps before, does that count

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

CONTENT WARNING

Have you ever had a TURPS procedure?

we’ve been on the turps before, does that count

;) nay other than that one needs to use the same organ to expel all that turps.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/turp/about/pac-20384880

SCIENCE said:

https://twitter.com/Mon4Kooyong/status/1570010881500774401

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

https://twitter.com/Mon4Kooyong/status/1570010881500774401

Obvious troublemaker.

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

https://twitter.com/Mon4Kooyong/status/1570010881500774401

everyone knows independents have NFI about The Economy Must Grow so they should shut up now

you’ll excuse us for taking a bit of time to sift these 12 MB of fun and games

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)01585-9/fulltext

https://theconversation.com/imagining-covid-is-like-the-flu-is-cutting-thousands-of-lives-short-its-time-to-wake-up-190545

SCIENCE said:

https://theconversation.com/imagining-covid-is-like-the-flu-is-cutting-thousands-of-lives-short-its-time-to-wake-up-190545

a fairly safe position on the status of the superpandemic, whether there still is a pandemic for starters, is to consider if air-travel has resumed to normal, or anything resembling normal of up until late 2019 (or early 2020), including the profile of travelers, and the answer to that is it hasn’t. An argument might be made it’s trending that way, and i’m sure there are plenty people doing normal, some of which come down with covid after flying, and carry covid to their destination, and there remains many avoiding flying because of that possibility

there quite simply is not the planes in the air to indicate normal, i’m certainly not seeing them crossing the sky like times past

or maybe there is a general downturn in profligate travel and casual worldism, must be nudging twenty million deaths now and multiply that by at least ten for your mass maiming

simple fact is that transport in a capsule like a plane involves high transmission potential, the view from ten kilometres up is pleasing though i’m sure

and how would you like be a pilot, or variously working in aviation transport related, getting bombed by covid on repeat

Oh lovely.

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a38992779/covid-penis-shrink-urologist-doctor-rena-malik/

Spiny Norman said:

Oh lovely.

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a38992779/covid-penis-shrink-urologist-doctor-rena-malik/

I must’ve had the disease years ago, then.

Michael V said:

Spiny Norman said:

Oh lovely.

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a38992779/covid-penis-shrink-urologist-doctor-rena-malik/

I must’ve had the disease years ago, then.

So that’s where its gone.

monetisation

https://unsw.press/books/dark-winter/

that’s the week planned out yeah

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/disaster-and-emergency/spike-in-aussie-drownings-linked-to-covid-c-8254239

news services are very busy helping their audience avoid any secluded and unfamiliar explanations, and a fortunate thing too it is after a couple years everyone got so much better at watching each others backs, the license as it went for easy low-responsibility transmission of covid and maybe anything else, lending to mass death and maiming

transition said:

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/disaster-and-emergency/spike-in-aussie-drownings-linked-to-covid-c-8254239

news services are very busy helping their audience avoid any secluded and unfamiliar explanations, and a fortunate thing too it is after a couple years everyone got so much better at watching each others backs, the license as it went for easy low-responsibility transmission of covid and maybe anything else, lending to mass death and maiming

wait can’t we blame the masks or something

also

you mean there are fewer drownings all year than there are COVID-19 deaths in a fortnight, fucking damn

well sorry JonRei you silly old man, that’s why you’re just some pissy little doctor wearing a hat

while the Real Men get rich off media attention and glory

Men with low testosterone may be a greater risk for severe COVID-19

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2022/09/06/low-testosterone-COVID-19/4231662474258/

In total, 20,507,518 years of life have been lost to COVID-19 among the studied 81 countries, due to 1,279,866 deaths from the disease. The average years of life lost per death is 16 years.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-83040-3

Spiny Norman said:

Men with low testosterone may be a greater risk for severe COVID-19

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2022/09/06/low-testosterone-COVID-19/4231662474258/

In total, 20,507,518 years of life have been lost to COVID-19 among the studied 81 countries, due to 1,279,866 deaths from the disease. The average years of life lost per death is 16 years.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-83040-3

Bugger. I have very low testosterone. I’d better stay away from the COVIDs…

Good News ¡ Those People Who Menstruate Who Only Lost Less Than 5% Of Their Functional Capacity Will Have A Wider Range Of Less Unhealthy Eligible Males To Choose From ¡

https://time.com/6212973/long-covid-europe-world-health-organization/

1 in 3 Women and 1 in 5 Men in EU May Develop Long COVID, WHO Says

New research suggests at least 17 million people in the European Union may have experienced Long COVID-19 symptoms during the first two years of the coronavirus pandemic, with women more likely than men to suffer from the condition, the World Health Organization said Tuesday.

The modeling also suggests that women are twice as likely as men to experience Long COVID-19, and the risk increases dramatically among severe infections needing hospitalization, the report said. One-in-three women and one-in-five men are likely to develop Long COVID-19, according to the report.

disclaimer the details for those numbers aren’t in the article as far as we could see

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-18/call-for-more-research-into-childhood-dementia/101450452

dirty ASIANS wearing masks

wait

laugh out loud fuck laugh out loud

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11133519/Undertakers-kept-busy-abnormally-high-numbers-Aussies-dying-not-just-Covid.html

Undertakers are run off their feet with abnormally high numbers of Australians dying – and it’s not just because of Covid

Mr Masson revealed he had been asked a number of times about increased death rates but had no particular explanation other than Covid being ‘let rip’.

well then they go on to say other things so who knows eh who knows

‘We have seen the ABS statistics that mirror a worrying trend in other countries like the UK,’ AMA President Professor Steve Robson said. Prof Robson said it was unclear what was driving the excess deaths in Australia. However, he pointed to some ‘likely factors’ that could be a hangover from the Covid period of isolation and restrictions.

shit we d’n‘o’, a hangover eh, if only promoting dementiavirus one year could suddenly unleash all the death and destruction that other places had seen when they promoted dementiavirus years earlier

‘Prior to Covid we found there was about a 4 per cent drop in death rates,’ Mr Masson said. ‘It was tough times. We said “we need an epidemic and pandemic” and unfortunately we got our wish.’

damn must have been the anti-COVID-19 lockdowns that communist police states were imposing in 2017 to 2019 as they say in the article

SCIENCE said:

laugh out loud fuck laugh out loud

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11133519/Undertakers-kept-busy-abnormally-high-numbers-Aussies-dying-not-just-Covid.html

Undertakers are run off their feet with abnormally high numbers of Australians dying – and it’s not just because of Covid

Mr Masson revealed he had been asked a number of times about increased death rates but had no particular explanation other than Covid being ‘let rip’.

well then they go on to say other things so who knows eh who knows

‘We have seen the ABS statistics that mirror a worrying trend in other countries like the UK,’ AMA President Professor Steve Robson said. Prof Robson said it was unclear what was driving the excess deaths in Australia. However, he pointed to some ‘likely factors’ that could be a hangover from the Covid period of isolation and restrictions.

shit we d’n‘o’, a hangover eh, if only promoting dementiavirus one year could suddenly unleash all the death and destruction that other places had seen when they promoted dementiavirus years earlier

‘Prior to Covid we found there was about a 4 per cent drop in death rates,’ Mr Masson said. ‘It was tough times. We said “we need an epidemic and pandemic” and unfortunately we got our wish.’

damn must have been the anti-COVID-19 lockdowns that communist police states were imposing in 2017 to 2019 as they say in the article

i’m have some ‘pinions, I inspired by a dose of failymoraltardation

by memory..cun’t member where saw it and my memory is bad

mr masson said………australians unlikely to embrace restrictions again..

not between inverted commas of any sort, so not verbatim quote or pawafwazing maybe, but amongst other material in inverted commas

ya just dunno, mate, what was sayed, or what was made up special to help a shared derr, preferred derr

dun’t knows why but I thinkies some people is soft sociad larwinists, sells indifwance

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

laugh out loud fuck laugh out loud

emory..cun’t

ahahahahahaha

You don’t have ongoing symptoms and luckily, you don’t seem to have developed long COVID. But evidence is building of the negative impact of COVID on a healthy individual’s immune system, several weeks after symptoms have subsided.

SARS-CoV-2 infection may have other impacts. It may affect our ability to fight other viruses, as well as other pathogens, such as bacteria or fungi. An Australian study has found SARS-CoV-2 alters the balance of immune cells up to 24 weeks after clearing the infection.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-19/covid-constant-colds-immune-system-risk-infectious-diseases/101449778

https://theconversation.com/ive-had-covid-and-am-constantly-getting-colds-did-covid-harm-my-immune-system-am-i-now-at-risk-of-other-infectious-diseases-188899

ahahahahahaha

sorry nah can’t be long COVID-19 just long term immune consequences of COVID-19 but that’s not long COVID-19 no way nobody gets long COVID-19 please nobody

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

laugh out loud fuck laugh out loud

emory..cun’t

ahahahahahaha

You don’t have ongoing symptoms and luckily, you don’t seem to have developed long COVID. But evidence is building of the negative impact of COVID on a healthy individual’s immune system, several weeks after symptoms have subsided.

SARS-CoV-2 infection may have other impacts. It may affect our ability to fight other viruses, as well as other pathogens, such as bacteria or fungi. An Australian study has found SARS-CoV-2 alters the balance of immune cells up to 24 weeks after clearing the infection.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-19/covid-constant-colds-immune-system-risk-infectious-diseases/101449778

https://theconversation.com/ive-had-covid-and-am-constantly-getting-colds-did-covid-harm-my-immune-system-am-i-now-at-risk-of-other-infectious-diseases-188899

ahahahahahaha

sorry nah can’t be long COVID-19 just long term immune consequences of COVID-19 but that’s not long COVID-19 no way nobody gets long COVID-19 please nobody

strained crosseyed derr look

wants more people to study, let the mass maiming continues, take it in the ask for worldist’ disease liberalization

transition said:

let the mass maiming continues, take it in the ask for worldist’ disease liberalization

Every Single Bus Fatality In The World Except Dirty CHINA Blamed On COVID-19 ¡¡¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-19/deadly-bus-crash-on-the-way-to-a-covid-quarantine-facility/101453008

wait oh oh shit

Hey we’ll just lie about tracking and pretend it’s all good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0EvCBHbt0o

Spiny Norman said:

pretend it’s all good

trololololololololololol trolololololol trololololol

https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/resources-statistics/reports/report-on-excess-mortality-during-the-covid-pandemic-18sep2022.pdf

conclusion: get infected to prevent getting infected but make sure you get infected as long ago as possible so that you survive and oh wait immunity has waned oh shit

Scientists say they have invented a bioelectronic mask that can detect COVID within 10 minutes
Face coverings are already proven to reduce the risk of spreading COVID-19 — now scientists say they have invented a mask that can detect respiratory viruses in the air.

laugh

this so-called “expert” misses the point yet again

obviously the answer is to just be 70 to 79 years old and then you’re all good

ahahahahaha idiots

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I takes your image from another post, puts it below

the grand trouble of covid is in fact the mass injury, or maiming, it does a good maiming

you can incorporate the deaths into the same numbers, they certainly didn’t happen without an injury

and I say what I say, because it’s the maiming many people are avoiding, including from repeat infections, and i’d add you may need a long time to recover from the maiming, if you ever do

COVID-19 On Track To Cure All Heart Disease In USSA By 2023

well there you go

funny how soon it will be any reporting is useless

monkey skipper said:

8,000,000 people told to evacuate as super-typhoon hits Japan
Yesterday 7:57 pm
Comment

More than eight million people have been told to evacuate their homes as Japan battles one of the deadliest typhoons ever recorded in its history. The super typhoon Nanmadol has left two people dead, more than 100 injured, and thousands without power as it made its way across the country this weekend

Super Typhoon Immunity Debt ¡

Chinese researchers have developed a mask that lets users know if they’ve been exposed to COVID-19 or the flu, a development that could help vulnerable populations even as the use of face coverings falls and more nations ease virus restrictions.

A sensor built into a mask was able to detect the COVID-19, H5N1 and H1N1 influenza viruses in the air within 10 minutes and send notifications to a device, according to the study led by six scientists working with Tongji University in Shanghai. The peer-reviewed findings were published in the scientific journal Matter on Monday.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/chinese-scientists-develop-mask-that-detects-covid-in-the-air-20220920-p5bjeq.html

Spiny Norman said:

Chinese researchers have developed a mask that lets users know if they’ve been exposed to COVID-19 or the flu, a development that could help vulnerable populations even as the use of face coverings falls and more nations ease virus restrictions.

A sensor built into a mask was able to detect the COVID-19, H5N1 and H1N1 influenza viruses in the air within 10 minutes and send notifications to a device, according to the study led by six scientists working with Tongji University in Shanghai. The peer-reviewed findings were published in the scientific journal Matter on Monday.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/chinese-scientists-develop-mask-that-detects-covid-in-the-air-20220920-p5bjeq.html

Does it also send notification to ‘the authorities’ who then race around to your place in hazmat suits and proceed to wall you up in your accommodation?

captain_spalding said:

Spiny Norman said:

Chinese researchers have developed a mask that lets users know if they’ve been exposed to COVID-19 or the flu, a development that could help vulnerable populations even as the use of face coverings falls and more nations ease virus restrictions.

A sensor built into a mask was able to detect the COVID-19, H5N1 and H1N1 influenza viruses in the air within 10 minutes and send notifications to a device, according to the study led by six scientists working with Tongji University in Shanghai. The peer-reviewed findings were published in the scientific journal Matter on Monday.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/chinese-scientists-develop-mask-that-detects-covid-in-the-air-20220920-p5bjeq.html

Does it also send notification to ‘the authorities’ who then race around to your place in hazmat suits and proceed to wall you up in your accommodation?

Surely it comes with a charge of carfentanil for instant incapacitation and then they can roll in the drones at their leisure, what do you take them for, some technologically backward shithole like the USSA¿

more than 30 in hospital, with at least two suffering serious

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-21/bus-truck-crash-bacchus-marsh-33-people-in-hospital/101460396

even fucking Wouldiwas Shookspeared predicted COVID-19 disaster

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-21/covid-pandemic-when-will-it-be-over-new-variants-vaccines/101452926

When will we know the pandemic is over? Professor Blakely says it’s difficult to know exactly when COVID-19 will no longer be classified as a pandemic.

What’s in a name? That which we call a CoV by any other name would smell as … uh … can’t seem to smell anything apparently¿

it’s over, deaths are from lockdowns

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/ddn-20220916-1

Excess mortality in the EU climbed to +16% in July 2022 from +7% in both June and May. This was the highest value on record so far in 2022, amounting to around 53 000 additional deaths in July this year compared with the monthly averages for 2016-2019.

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even fucking Wouldiwas Shookspeared predicted COVID-19 disaster

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-21/covid-pandemic-when-will-it-be-over-new-variants-vaccines/101452926

When will we know the pandemic is over? Professor Blakely says it’s difficult to know exactly when COVID-19 will no longer be classified as a pandemic.

What’s in a name? That which we call a CoV by any other name would smell as … uh … can’t seem to smell anything apparently¿

no mention of the great maiming in there, getting stealthed in that instrumental proposition some like planting in peoples heads

is it over yet, and if it isn’t over soon will it ever be over

and guess which way people swing with those contradictions landed in their heads

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

even fucking Wouldiwas Shookspeared predicted COVID-19 disaster

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-21/covid-pandemic-when-will-it-be-over-new-variants-vaccines/101452926

When will we know the pandemic is over? Professor Blakely says it’s difficult to know exactly when COVID-19 will no longer be classified as a pandemic.

What’s in a name? That which we call a CoV by any other name would smell as … uh … can’t seem to smell anything apparently¿

no mention of the great maiming in there, getting stealthed in that instrumental proposition some like planting in peoples heads

is it over yet, and if it isn’t over soon will it ever be over

and guess which way people swing with those contradictions landed in their heads

don’t worry all the vascular diseases deaths will be down to just another “nonspecific risk factor for preventable lifestyle disease occasioning death” and what a lifestyle it was

SCIENCE said:

COVID-19 On Track To Cure All Heart Disease In USSA By 2023

How are accidental deaths tracking?

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

COVID-19 On Track To Cure All Heart Disease In USSA By 2023

How are accidental deaths tracking?

not sure, they didn’t tell us that specifically but these fellas

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/covid-19-leading-cause-of-death-ranking/

had something

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

COVID-19 On Track To Cure All Heart Disease In USSA By 2023

How are accidental deaths tracking?

not sure, they didn’t tell us that specifically but these fellas

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/covid-19-leading-cause-of-death-ranking/

had something

No mention of gunshot deaths.

Tamb said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

How are accidental deaths tracking?

not sure, they didn’t tell us that specifically but these fellas

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/covid-19-leading-cause-of-death-ranking/

had something

No mention of gunshot deaths.

That’s only like 30000 each year, a small price to pay for The Military Industrial Economy Complex Must Grow ¡

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

SCIENCE said:

not sure, they didn’t tell us that specifically but these fellas

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/covid-19-leading-cause-of-death-ranking/

had something

No mention of gunshot deaths.

That’s only like 30000 each year, a small price to pay for The Military Industrial Economy Complex Must Grow ¡

30,000pa. Yes, a small price to pay for freedom.

Tamb said:

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

No mention of gunshot deaths.

That’s only like 30000 each year, a small price to pay for The Military Industrial Economy Complex Must Grow ¡

30,000pa. Yes, a small price to pay for freedom.

shrug 0.01% of the population no biggie

The End

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG3VoX3Ldk
Record excess deaths in Europe

watching that^

transition said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG3VoX3Ldk
Record excess deaths in Europe

watching that^

what shall we blame

dogs

adenovirus

cilantro

¿

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG3VoX3Ldk
Record excess deaths in Europe

watching that^

what shall we blame

dogs

adenovirus

cilantro

¿

Not Diane Cilento, she’s dead.

transition said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG3VoX3Ldk
Record excess deaths in Europe

watching that^

July was mid-summer in Europe with record temperatures that would have been a considerable influence regarding excess deaths.

PermeateFree said:

transition said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG3VoX3Ldk
Record excess deaths in Europe

watching that^

July was mid-summer in Europe with record temperatures that would have been a considerable influence regarding excess deaths.

Let’s wait for the depth of winter then, that should be a doozy.

PermeateFree said:

transition said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG3VoX3Ldk
Record excess deaths in Europe

watching that^

July was mid-summer in Europe with record temperatures that would have been a considerable influence regarding excess deaths.

good point.

transition said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG3VoX3Ldk
Record excess deaths in Europe

watching that^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0hpT00a8xg
Lab viral origins report

now that^

I still wear a mask when I go shopping and the like.
It’s not an inconvenience.

Peak Warming Man said:

I still wear a mask when I go shopping and the like.
It’s not an inconvenience.

I stopped this week.

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG3VoX3Ldk
Record excess deaths in Europe

watching that^

what shall we blame

dogs

adenovirus

cilantro

¿

the good doctor i’d expect is observing an anomaly – a distortion – that is the product of focusing on prevention of death, rather than prevention of injury

transition said:

transition said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG3VoX3Ldk
Record excess deaths in Europe

watching that^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0hpT00a8xg
Lab viral origins report

now that^

now why would anyone want to bother preventing disease when they could go pointing fingers

it’s over

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/covid-complications-push-australian-deaths-to-highest-number-in-40-years-20220921-p5bjtm.html

can you geniuses please explain to us how these things add up

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-22/public-holiday-business-economic-cost/101461330

One economist estimates that today’s one-off public holiday to mark the death of Queen Elizabeth II will cost Australia’s economy close to $2 billion in lost productivity.

so it’s good politics and public happiness to burn AUD2G when 1 person dies, but the minor wealth redistribution of preventative measures that would eliminate the biggest cause of death (so 0 people would die of it) is unacceptable

While Mr Koukoulas believes the snap public holiday is a net loss for the economy, other economists have told ABC News that there will be some benefits to some sectors. “So domestic tourism operators and related businesses could do very well,” Mr Aird said.

so when people avoid CBDs because they’re more productive working from home, it’s shit economic performance, but when people party in regional areas instead of being at work in the CBDs, business is booming

yet another similar result

and very mild

SCIENCE said:

it’s over

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/covid-complications-push-australian-deaths-to-highest-number-in-40-years-20220921-p5bjtm.html

when you read or hear more study is required, this has become a device for acceptance of more examples to study, more ‘statistics’

and so inured of doublespeak – or doublethink – people have become, it passes for normal

the propaganda machine has long utilized focus on deaths, reducing apparent deaths, distracting from injuries, but as a conceptual category it remains useful to consider all injury (including that leading to more immediate death) along with non-lethal injury that reduces fitness that could hasten death

if deaths serve to distract from injury (maiming) this becomes, and it is, dangerous territory, a moral decline

what it is, evidence of, is that in apparently free liberal countries that the ideological apparatus has a profound influence on mental state orientation, the views people hold, notions that contribute to the status quo, including importantly the operating space of indifference

and everyone wants some indifference, some resting space that way, equilibrium that is home, home in the head

culture certainly has influence to steer that

transition said:

deaths serve to distract from injury (maiming) this

sorry we forgot to find this gem about

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/19/health/covid-alzheimers-diagnosis-wellness/index.html

dementiavirus for all

but don’t worry if people are disabled younger then we can sacrifice them younger and then

The Economy Must Grow ¡

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

deaths serve to distract from injury (maiming) this

sorry we forgot to find this gem about

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/19/health/covid-alzheimers-diagnosis-wellness/index.html

dementiavirus for all

but don’t worry if people are disabled younger then we can sacrifice them younger and then

The Economy Must Grow ¡

LOL

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/covid-raises-risk-long-term-brain-injury-large-us-study-finds-2022-09-22/

219 COVID deaths in Australia this week.

:(

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-23/covid-19-case-numbers-from-around-the-states-and-territories/101468032

damn what a fkn ASIAN apologist

https://www.theage.com.au/national/sutton-argues-asia-can-teach-us-about-mask-protocols-20220922-p5bk4l.html

hair you go now you can save yourselves

https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj-2022-072117

SCIENCE said:

damn what a fkn ASIAN apologist

https://www.theage.com.au/national/sutton-argues-asia-can-teach-us-about-mask-protocols-20220922-p5bk4l.html

“…saying it had often been difficult to explain the complexity of COVID-19 – especially as new variants began to evade the vaccines that had drastically reduced the virus’ fatality rate…”

I wonder if that latter part is in fact what was said, or meant, or even the intended gist of whatever was said

“..especially as new variants began to evade the vaccines that had drastically reduced the virus’ fatality rate…”

sort of takes your mind off the number of hosts providing an environment to evolve the virus, the way it is writ, to me anyway

be a funny thing if variants started to mean evolution the hosts are not responsible for

I think it started to lend to that a long time ago

I might point out also, again, that the same troubles with covid as day one in china still exist, still apply, the virus became more contagious is all, there’s more virus freely circulating, more strains of it, more diversity, more to evolve from

these days I treat with contempt anything that uses deaths, death rates, decline in death rates, to distract from overall injuries caused, the maiming done and in progress

the deaths are part of the totality of injuries

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

damn what a fkn ASIAN apologist

https://www.theage.com.au/national/sutton-argues-asia-can-teach-us-about-mask-protocols-20220922-p5bk4l.html

“…saying it had often been difficult to explain the complexity of COVID-19 – especially as new variants began to evade the vaccines that had drastically reduced the virus’ fatality rate…”

I wonder if that latter part is in fact what was said, or meant, or even the intended gist of whatever was said

“..especially as new variants began to evade the vaccines that had drastically reduced the virus’ fatality rate…”

sort of takes your mind off the number of hosts providing an environment to evolve the virus, the way it is writ, to me anyway

be a funny thing if variants started to mean evolution the hosts are not responsible for

I think it started to lend to that a long time ago

I might point out also, again, that the same troubles with covid as day one in china still exist, still apply, the virus became more contagious is all, there’s more virus freely circulating, more strains of it, more diversity, more to evolve from

these days I treat with contempt anything that uses deaths, death rates, decline in death rates, to distract from overall injuries caused, the maiming done and in progress

the deaths are part of the totality of injuries

wonder if they’ll also protect everyone against these

https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/09/22/khosta-2-new-russian-bat-virus-discovered-that-could-infect-humans-and-resist-covid-vaccin

don’t worry new release coming soon to Ukraine near yous all

exactly

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/government-made-the-covid-crisis-even-worse/news-story/f2be8e22e84439f9f1f734f81c065ffc

SCIENCE said:

exactly

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/government-made-the-covid-crisis-even-worse/news-story/f2be8e22e84439f9f1f734f81c065ffc

Shit happens.

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

exactly

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/government-made-the-covid-crisis-even-worse/news-story/f2be8e22e84439f9f1f734f81c065ffc

Shit happens.

we think the point is that in breaking news “Borg will lose the first set but win the match” is more likely than “Borg will lose the first set” you know the problem

SCIENCE said:

exactly

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/government-made-the-covid-crisis-even-worse/news-story/f2be8e22e84439f9f1f734f81c065ffc

I cunts read that, might’ve insisted I immerse myself with an ongoing financial commitment, to patch my unimagination with authorative ideas from elsewhere

some retrospective profundity from master Tony, imagine that, or maybe don’t, may give yourself a permanent injury, ya gets irreversible abbotism

SCIENCE said:

Dark Orange said:

dv said:

I mean that seems amazingly cheap. We’re talking about a company with 9 billion dollar annual revenue. They would have been expecting that the cost to fix the leak would be much higher than 1 million. The cost to investigate the leak would be more than 1 million.

The cost to fix the leak is trivial, the cost to fix the damage isn’t.

which is why we agree with and thought similar to that dv fella, $1M to avoid $50M damage isn’t exactly expensive

on the other hand fair point we mean it would have cost less than $1T to stop SARACAIDS-CoV from doing more than $1T damage per year but now we’re looking at probably more than 50 years of that shit so maybe they should have just demanded ten bucks or something

100,024 at the MCG for the AFL Grand Final today.

A superspreader event?

AussieDJ said:

100,024 at the MCG for the AFL Grand Final today.

A superspreader event?

Probably.

I did notice a few masks in the crowd on the TV shots, but probably less than 10%.

AussieDJ said:

100,024 at the MCG for the AFL Grand Final today.

A superspreader event?

Probably.

ah well surprisingly it turns out that vaccinating people reduces the spread of disease

https://twitter.com/drsimonwilliams/status/1573379779537272838

I do does readies, along with some human nature studies, gets down and dirty in the doublethink and doublespeak native to the species, no less so inclined where social status is involved and appeals to the we

https://johnmenadue.com/our-right-wing-media-is-outraged-by-australias-gross-overreaction-to-the-arrival-of-covid-19/

I think it’s fairly safe to say vaccines were used to liberate the virus to wild status, and limit responsibility for virus transmission

those two together you might generalize are license

I sees a few derrs I none agrees with, they look like secret devices, so secret they aren’t known to those they inhabit perhaps, ideal secrets really in which case the whatever is what it is because it is secret in the thing it inhabits, and if the very possibility of a secret didn’t originate that way i’d be very surprised

“It appears most likely that in susceptible individuals the immune response to infection involves an attack on the SARS virus that is not targeted narrowly enough resulting in “innocent bystander’ tissue damage— ‘auto-immunity…”

maybe that is substantially true, and i’d reckon it is, but of the entire propositions involved it is a construction with an orientation, an angle, which is disputable

first let me play with susceptible, the way it seems used or applied, and apply this of common allergies like hayfever, the latter’s an auto-immune situation

how many people with known allergies go about increasing their exposure to allergens, and no they don’t generally other than some rare examples of clinical desensitization

imagine now a lot of people have something like an allergy to covid, but exposure more permanently renders the immune system wobbly

consider now over time more and more people become allergic to covid, because of more people being exposed and repeat infections

now to the question of whether allergies are maladaptive, the spread of immune variability across the population

what disinclines me from sleeping in a dusty room, breathing in excessive dust, what disinclines me from living in a moldy environment, disinclines me from sleeping in damp environments, breathing crap in, what inclines me to breathe fresh air, to prefer fresh air

what disinclines me from breathing in smoke, from burning rubbish or whatever

I seem to have an aversion, broadly aversions to irritants

I want repeat covid infections the same way as I want a big vase of mixed flowers alongside my bed at night, or I want to live in a dusty cave, or want to be downwind of the neighbors when they burn their rubbish

anyway it’s getting late and this is an effort

but i’ll finish by saying what some people point to as susceptibility I might instead point to covid is pollution

I can see it some other way, no less valid an angle than that provided, though at least my angle doesn’t eliminate another perspective, obliviate it

someone entertain me, argue it isn’t pollution

laugh ahahahahahaha out ahahahahahaha loud

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-26/polio-outbreak-fears-as-cases-emerge-overseas/101448202

SCIENCE said:

laugh ahahahahahaha out ahahahahahaha loud

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-26/polio-outbreak-fears-as-cases-emerge-overseas/101448202

the plague of casual worldists be secretly happy they have highly mobile border smashing friends doing their good work

don’t know if this is good or bad news but We Have The Tools right

ah well at least we won’t have to worry about bacterial antibiotic resistance

SCIENCE said:

ah well at least we won’t have to worry about bacterial antibiotic resistance

Laugh Out Loud

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/sep/19/sexually-transmitted-disease-rise-syphilis-us

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-27/feral-honey-bees-baited-varroa-eradication-program-nsw/101478558

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/crop-rotation

Crop rotations reduce soil pests, especially plant parasitic nematodes, and certain persistent weeds.

SCIENCE said:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/crop-rotation

Crop rotations reduce soil pests, especially plant parasitic nematodes, and certain persistent weeds.

I’ll read it but what’s new about this?

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/crop-rotation

Crop rotations reduce soil pests, especially plant parasitic nematodes, and certain persistent weeds.

I’ll read it but what’s new about this?

The association with COVID presumably.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/crop-rotation

Crop rotations reduce soil pests, especially plant parasitic nematodes, and certain persistent weeds.

I’ll read it but what’s new about this?

imagine if human crops could be managed in analogous ways

https://apnews.com/article/covid-health-education-germany-olaf-scholz-a9fb2cda8c0a295c32d88455dfb59ec1
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/david-keegan-human-rights-complaint-mask-mandate-airplane-1.6598062

SCIENCE said:

courtesy the covid dogs

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

courtesy the covid dogs

don’t be such a pessimist, that’s a 1870% improvement in case you haven’t noticed

SCIENCE said:

and there are worldist dogs

oh

uh

OOPS

what did we say

but yes we commend them

on this start at least, we shall see more later

SCIENCE said:

Bring.

It.

On.

SCIENCE said:

It really isn’t fun to contract atypical TB from sniffing potting mix.

just look at that penis sticking out

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-28/cane-toad-mandalong-alert-north-of-sydney-dpi-investigates/101479490

wait up we thought surely we’re at flock immunity now, surely there can be no further waves

oh phqkcu

seems kind of sad

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/immunocompromised-death-covid-19-1.6597716

you know what, never mind, The Economy Must Growing so it’s all good and happy

SCIENCE said:

seems kind of sad

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/immunocompromised-death-covid-19-1.6597716

you know what, never mind, The Economy Must Growing so it’s all good and happy

reading that

I might point out that since attitudes toward covid got relaxed the potential for more general relaxation (toward any respiratory contagion) exceeding that of before the pandemic is probably a real thing

it’s a small step from it’s everywhere what can you do to anything is everywhere what can you do, and as covid became more prolific there was and is the capacity to accept an undiscerning prolific, it matters less what it is or could be that is common, common is common

transmission of anything and everything might be enhanced by undiscerning notions of common, acceptance that way, normalization

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

seems kind of sad

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/immunocompromised-death-covid-19-1.6597716

you know what, never mind, The Economy Must Growing so it’s all good and happy

reading that

I might point out that since attitudes toward covid got relaxed the potential for more general relaxation (toward any respiratory contagion) exceeding that of before the pandemic is probably a real thing

it’s a small step from it’s everywhere what can you do to anything is everywhere what can you do, and as covid became more prolific there was and is the capacity to accept an undiscerning prolific, it matters less what it is or could be that is common, common is common

transmission of anything and everything might be enhanced by undiscerning notions of common, acceptance that way, normalization

when they said back to normal they meant back to old old situation normal

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

seems kind of sad

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/immunocompromised-death-covid-19-1.6597716

you know what, never mind, The Economy Must Growing so it’s all good and happy

reading that

I might point out that since attitudes toward covid got relaxed the potential for more general relaxation (toward any respiratory contagion) exceeding that of before the pandemic is probably a real thing

it’s a small step from it’s everywhere what can you do to anything is everywhere what can you do, and as covid became more prolific there was and is the capacity to accept an undiscerning prolific, it matters less what it is or could be that is common, common is common

transmission of anything and everything might be enhanced by undiscerning notions of common, acceptance that way, normalization

when they said back to normal they meant back to old old situation normal

Russia?

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

reading that

I might point out that since attitudes toward covid got relaxed the potential for more general relaxation (toward any respiratory contagion) exceeding that of before the pandemic is probably a real thing

it’s a small step from it’s everywhere what can you do to anything is everywhere what can you do, and as covid became more prolific there was and is the capacity to accept an undiscerning prolific, it matters less what it is or could be that is common, common is common

transmission of anything and everything might be enhanced by undiscerning notions of common, acceptance that way, normalization

when they said back to normal they meant back to old old situation normal

Russia?

had to be said we suppose

optimism increasing

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/29/health/pandemic-preparedness-covid-monkeypox.html

remember when right at the start they were banging on about how the USUK were far and away the best prepared countries to beat off any pandemics

SCIENCE said:

optimism increasing

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/29/health/pandemic-preparedness-covid-monkeypox.html

remember when right at the start they were banging on about how the USUK were far and away the best prepared countries to beat off any pandemics

ease of international travel, and the amount of it (for example the expansion ~2009-2019 of air travel) really came with profound changes in capacity and willingness of people to contain anything

as a bit of joke, to put it simply, or crudely, to contain things isn’t liberal, except maybe containing illiberal things

Laugh Out Loud

get a load of these old farts clinging to some old ideal of health and freedom from disease as if it’s more important than The Economy Must Grow somehow despite worsened productivity

President of the Australian Medical Association, Steve Robson was speaking to ABC News Breakfast a short time ago when he was asked about the push to scrap isolation periods for COVID-19. He told host Madeleine Morris that any push to remove isolation periods were “putting the public at risk”.

Madeleine Morris: “Just National Cabinet, if we can move on to the subject of COVID isolation periods as well. big push to cut them all together from Dominic Perrottet, also the Tasmanian Premier, what’s the AMA’s take?”

Steve Robson: “I think people who are pushing for the isolation periods to be cut are not scientifically literate and are putting the public at risk and they need to understand that.”

MM: “So what will be the consequences in your view for argument’s sake if National Cabinet did remove that period today?”

SR: “We’re seeing overseas a huge upswing in the numbers of COVID cases again. It’s coming into holiday season when people would be travelling around the world. We think it’s a period of significant risk and we’re urging caution because we need to protect the health system and we need to protect vulnerable people like those in aged care and people with a disability.”

MM: “The argument, of course, put forward by Dominic Perrottet and others that there is no other mandatory isolation period for other illnesses. The flu which can be extremely serious for people, it’sup to you to stay home if you’re sick. Why is that not a valid argument?”

SR: “If you think the flu is COVID, you’re living in fantasy land. COVID is a long-term infectious, we’re already seeing a massive effect of long COVID on the workforce and the community. You don’t have it with long flu or long cold. It’s fantasy.”

SCIENCE said:

Laugh Out Loud

get a load of these old farts clinging to some old ideal of health and freedom from disease as if it’s more important than The Economy Must Grow somehow despite worsened productivity

President of the Australian Medical Association, Steve Robson was speaking to ABC News Breakfast a short time ago when he was asked about the push to scrap isolation periods for COVID-19. He told host Madeleine Morris that any push to remove isolation periods were “putting the public at risk”.

Madeleine Morris: “Just National Cabinet, if we can move on to the subject of COVID isolation periods as well. big push to cut them all together from Dominic Perrottet, also the Tasmanian Premier, what’s the AMA’s take?”

Steve Robson: “I think people who are pushing for the isolation periods to be cut are not scientifically literate and are putting the public at risk and they need to understand that.”

MM: “So what will be the consequences in your view for argument’s sake if National Cabinet did remove that period today?”

SR: “We’re seeing overseas a huge upswing in the numbers of COVID cases again. It’s coming into holiday season when people would be travelling around the world. We think it’s a period of significant risk and we’re urging caution because we need to protect the health system and we need to protect vulnerable people like those in aged care and people with a disability.”

MM: “The argument, of course, put forward by Dominic Perrottet and others that there is no other mandatory isolation period for other illnesses. The flu which can be extremely serious for people, it’sup to you to stay home if you’re sick. Why is that not a valid argument?”

SR: “If you think the flu is COVID, you’re living in fantasy land. COVID is a long-term infectious, we’re already seeing a massive effect of long COVID on the workforce and the community. You don’t have it with long flu or long cold. It’s fantasy.”

The economy must grow is all important isn’t it, a recession is bad, like extremely bad
Humanity must expand and take over and exploit more resources on our planet with finite resources that is no longer coping with our infection.

SCIENCE said:

Laugh Out Loud

get a load of these old farts clinging to some old ideal of health and freedom from disease as if it’s more important than The Economy Must Grow somehow despite worsened productivity

President of the Australian Medical Association, Steve Robson was speaking to ABC News Breakfast a short time ago when he was asked about the push to scrap isolation periods for COVID-19. He told host Madeleine Morris that any push to remove isolation periods were “putting the public at risk”.

Madeleine Morris: “Just National Cabinet, if we can move on to the subject of COVID isolation periods as well. big push to cut them all together from Dominic Perrottet, also the Tasmanian Premier, what’s the AMA’s take?”

Steve Robson: “I think people who are pushing for the isolation periods to be cut are not scientifically literate and are putting the public at risk and they need to understand that.”

MM: “So what will be the consequences in your view for argument’s sake if National Cabinet did remove that period today?”

SR: “We’re seeing overseas a huge upswing in the numbers of COVID cases again. It’s coming into holiday season when people would be travelling around the world. We think it’s a period of significant risk and we’re urging caution because we need to protect the health system and we need to protect vulnerable people like those in aged care and people with a disability.”

MM: “The argument, of course, put forward by Dominic Perrottet and others that there is no other mandatory isolation period for other illnesses. The flu which can be extremely serious for people, it’sup to you to stay home if you’re sick. Why is that not a valid argument?”

SR: “If you think the flu is COVID, you’re living in fantasy land. COVID is a long-term infectious, we’re already seeing a massive effect of long COVID on the workforce and the community. You don’t have it with long flu or long cold. It’s fantasy.”

and it is that inconvenient long business, that some would like to disappear into the noise of all common infections, become unmeasurable, commonly common, disperse into the libertarian tolerance

Cymek said:

“The argument, of course, put forward by Dominic Perrottet and others that there is no other mandatory isolation period for other illnesses. The flu which can be extremely serious for people, it’sup to you to stay home if you’re sick. Why is that not a valid argument?”

because it’s a fucking distortion effectively acting as a lie isn’t it, is that dickhead in NSW right well from their own state

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/controlguideline/Pages/tuberculosis.aspx#9

A restriction order may be issued to a person with pulmonary TB who does not comply with prescribed treatment and is not willing to limit their movement within the community (see Section 15: Jurisdiction specific issues for links to relevant legislation). Enactment of an isolation order is a last resort that follows extensive consultation between the treating clinicians and TB services, patient counselling, psychological assessment and use of alternative strategies to enhance adherence, including incentives and enablers.

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

“The argument, of course, put forward by Dominic Perrottet and others that there is no other mandatory isolation period for other illnesses. The flu which can be extremely serious for people, it’sup to you to stay home if you’re sick. Why is that not a valid argument?”

because it’s a fucking distortion effectively acting as a lie isn’t it, is that dickhead in NSW right well from their own state

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/controlguideline/Pages/tuberculosis.aspx#9

A restriction order may be issued to a person with pulmonary TB who does not comply with prescribed treatment and is not willing to limit their movement within the community (see Section 15: Jurisdiction specific issues for links to relevant legislation). Enactment of an isolation order is a last resort that follows extensive consultation between the treating clinicians and TB services, patient counselling, psychological assessment and use of alternative strategies to enhance adherence, including incentives and enablers.

probably goes back to what is a notifiable disease, classification

we mean good news this should simultaneously free up health care workers and liquidity in The Economy Must Grow so Let It Rip® oh yeah

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-30/aged-care-living-with-covid-deaths/101485820

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

“The argument, of course, put forward by Dominic Perrottet and others that there is no other mandatory isolation period for other illnesses. The flu which can be extremely serious for people, it’sup to you to stay home if you’re sick. Why is that not a valid argument?”

because it’s a fucking distortion effectively acting as a lie isn’t it, is that dickhead in NSW right well from their own state

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/controlguideline/Pages/tuberculosis.aspx#9

A restriction order may be issued to a person with pulmonary TB who does not comply with prescribed treatment and is not willing to limit their movement within the community (see Section 15: Jurisdiction specific issues for links to relevant legislation). Enactment of an isolation order is a last resort that follows extensive consultation between the treating clinicians and TB services, patient counselling, psychological assessment and use of alternative strategies to enhance adherence, including incentives and enablers.

Typhoid Mary comes to mind.

lol remember this little gem

WHO says ‘we can see the finish line’ for the COVID-19 pandemic but it’s not over yet

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-15/who-tedros-adhanom-ghebreyesus-end-covid-19-pandemic-in-sight/101441898

turns out they were simply referring to the track events where you go around and around and around and you can see the finish line all right but it’s still 50 laps away

WHO says WHO doesn’t have a sense of humour

Perrotet is just doing what the employer lobbyists demand.

There’s no fun in having a law which forbids you from making your employees come to work when they’re sick.

captain_spalding said:

Perrotet is just doing what the employer lobbyists demand.

There’s no fun in having a law which forbids you from making your employees come to work when they’re sick.

Not sure about the private sector but at DOJ everyone was granted Covid paid sick leave of 2 weeks and it was approved without fuss when you got back

SCIENCE said:

we mean good news this should simultaneously free up health care workers and liquidity in The Economy Must Grow so Let It Rip® oh yeah

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-30/aged-care-living-with-covid-deaths/101485820

“She said the years of lockdowns and restrictions were onerous but understandable, and that she remained hopeful the freedom she once took for granted would return..”

from that above, my quotes don’t indicate they put it in quotes, I wonder if the lady said that, or meant that as wrote

…the freedom she once took for granted would return…

that reads like it makes straightforward sense as wrote, but then something of it maybe doesn’t

Cymek said:

captain_spalding said:

Perrotet is just doing what the employer lobbyists demand.

There’s no fun in having a law which forbids you from making your employees come to work when they’re sick.

Not sure about the private sector but at DOJ everyone was granted Covid paid sick leave of 2 weeks and it was approved without fuss when you got back

who needs a heart, obviously not Corruption or really any of the politicians they’re dealing with hey

I guess my public mask wearing will have to become even more fastidious.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-30/covid-19-isolation-period-dropped-national-cabinet/101489566

Michael V said:

I guess my public mask wearing will have to become even more fastidious.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-30/covid-19-isolation-period-dropped-national-cabinet/101489566

this fella trying to go all yoda

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

seems kind of sad

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/immunocompromised-death-covid-19-1.6597716

you know what, never mind, The Economy Must Growing so it’s all good and happy

reading that

I might point out that since attitudes toward covid got relaxed the potential for more general relaxation (toward any respiratory contagion) exceeding that of before the pandemic is probably a real thing

it’s a small step from it’s everywhere what can you do to anything is everywhere what can you do, and as covid became more prolific there was and is the capacity to accept an undiscerning prolific, it matters less what it is or could be that is common, common is common

transmission of anything and everything might be enhanced by undiscerning notions of common, acceptance that way, normalization

no way

no

surely not

no way

no

…

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

I guess my public mask wearing will have to become even more fastidious.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-30/covid-19-isolation-period-dropped-national-cabinet/101489566

this fella trying to go all yoda

whatever you hear and see, be sure there are ways to limit governments’, employers, and insurers liabilities for the long versions of covid, be very sure, the potential compensations to be avoided are massive, and to avoid it is a win

the ideological apparatus is performing its good work to that end, it doesn’t look like an AK47

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

seems kind of sad

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/immunocompromised-death-covid-19-1.6597716

you know what, never mind, The Economy Must Growing so it’s all good and happy

reading that

I might point out that since attitudes toward covid got relaxed the potential for more general relaxation (toward any respiratory contagion) exceeding that of before the pandemic is probably a real thing

it’s a small step from it’s everywhere what can you do to anything is everywhere what can you do, and as covid became more prolific there was and is the capacity to accept an undiscerning prolific, it matters less what it is or could be that is common, common is common

transmission of anything and everything might be enhanced by undiscerning notions of common, acceptance that way, normalization

no way

no

surely not

no way

no

…

not sure how useful headlice is as a comparison, or for comparison, possibly incomparable

when my kids were young, I found baby oil in hair sorted the lice, wash it out before school or going out, turns out headlice quite easy to manage by simply making hair an unfriendly environment for them, some people use hair conditioner maybe rub that in

save using stinking organophosphates, and the possibility of organophosphate-induced polyneuropathy, and i’d highly recommend that if you ever get a chance to put that in a sentence that you do, I haven’t for a long time and feel better now

because anglophone are the only places that Australians go sorry we mean they have the best pandemic control that’s why we should mention only them

What do other countries do?

The United Kingdom has no mandatory isolation rules in place.

In the United States, people are told to stay home for five days and in New Zealand the mandatory isolation period remains at seven days.

If you travel to Canada and test positive you must isolate, and those rules are different from the provincial or territorial rules.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-01/covid-isolation-rules-chief-medical-officer-letter/101492144

everywhere else must be a shithole country

“If you think scrapping COVID isolation periods will get us back to work and past the pandemic, think again”

By Raina MacIntyre, Brendan Crabb and Nancy Baxter

And they don’t mince their words…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-01/scrapping-covid-isolation-periods-impact-on-the-workforce/101493882

Michael V said:

“If you think scrapping COVID isolation periods will get us back to work and past the pandemic, think again”

By Raina MacIntyre, Brendan Crabb and Nancy Baxter

And they don’t mince their words…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-01/scrapping-covid-isolation-periods-impact-on-the-workforce/101493882

It’s all employer-lobby driven.

As i’ve said before, there’s no fun in being an employer of casual staff if the law prevents you from making them come to work when they’re sick.

captain_spalding said:

Michael V said:

“If you think scrapping COVID isolation periods will get us back to work and past the pandemic, think again”

By Raina MacIntyre, Brendan Crabb and Nancy Baxter

And they don’t mince their words…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-01/scrapping-covid-isolation-periods-impact-on-the-workforce/101493882

It’s all employer-lobby driven.

As i’ve said before, there’s no fun in being an employer of casual staff if the law prevents you from making them come to work when they’re sick.

yeah but who listens to so called medical experts anyway

ah well lucky she didn’t wear a mask slash respirator

Juliane, likely the only one in her row wearing a seat belt, spiralled down into the heart of the Amazon totally alone.

don’t worry there really is a connection

Juliane is now a biologist specialising in bats.

SCIENCE said:

ah well lucky she didn’t wear a mask slash respirator

Juliane, likely the only one in her row wearing a seat belt, spiralled down into the heart of the Amazon totally alone.

don’t worry there really is a connection

Juliane is now a biologist specialising in bats.

I’ve always got my seatbelt on when seated in an airliner.

It ain’t much, but if flying around in aircraft big and small has taught me anything, it’s that shit happens fast and without warning.

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

ah well lucky she didn’t wear a mask slash respirator

Juliane, likely the only one in her row wearing a seat belt, spiralled down into the heart of the Amazon totally alone.

don’t worry there really is a connection

Juliane is now a biologist specialising in bats.

I’ve always got my seatbelt on when seated in an airliner.

It ain’t much, but if flying around in aircraft big and small has taught me anything, it’s that shit happens fast and without warning.

Me too.

ah well good to know this is finally making it into the populist press too late for 0.6 of the world population

https://www.smh.com.au/national/does-contracting-covid-make-you-more-likely-to-develop-dementia-20220928-p5bll1.html

Does contracting COVID make you more likely to develop dementia?

no, as long as you catch it enough times to die of it first

SCIENCE said:

ah well good to know this is finally making it into the populist press too late for 0.6 of the world population

https://www.smh.com.au/national/does-contracting-covid-make-you-more-likely-to-develop-dementia-20220928-p5bll1.html

Does contracting COVID make you more likely to develop dementia?

no, as long as you catch it enough times to die of it first

reading that dear God

imagine if the mind were a proximate mechanism for survival, and it generated ideas about and behaviors to avoid unnecessary disease

but yeah more research is required

fucken derrr

transition said:

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

ah well good to know this is finally making it into the populist press too late for 0.6 of the world population

https://www.smh.com.au/national/does-contracting-covid-make-you-more-likely-to-develop-dementia-20220928-p5bll1.html

Does contracting COVID make you more likely to develop dementia?

no, as long as you catch it enough times to die of it first

reading that dear God

imagine if the mind were a proximate mechanism for survival, and it generated ideas about and behaviors to avoid unnecessary disease

but yeah more research is required

fucken derrr

strangest tasting apple ever had, tasted almost rotten but whatever I persisted

coffee earlier with chocolate chip cookies tasted yeah, off, didn’t persist with that

What’s in a name? That which we call a CoV by any other name would smell just as … um … sorry we can’t remember the ending, maybe it hasn’t happened yet?

SCIENCE said:

transition said:

transition said:

reading that dear God

imagine if the mind were a proximate mechanism for survival, and it generated ideas about and behaviors to avoid unnecessary disease

but yeah more research is required

fucken derrr

strangest tasting apple ever had, tasted almost rotten but whatever I persisted

coffee earlier with chocolate chip cookies tasted yeah, off, didn’t persist with that

What’s in a name? That which we call a CoV by any other name would smell just as … um … sorry we can’t remember the ending, maybe it hasn’t happened yet?

you should get smackies too, taking liberties there, sliding a post from another thread in there as if I posted in there like that

i’ll let it slide this time, think something similar may have happened before, next time you and I may do some advanced studies of such liberties