Date: 18/09/2022 11:02:07
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1934362
Subject: Philosophy

“Philosophy goes where hard science can’t, or won’t. Philosophers have a license to speculate about everything from metaphysics to morality, and this means they can shed light on some of the basic questions of existence.”

“Philosophical methods include questioning, critical discussion, rational argument, and systematic presentation.”

Why is there something rather than nothing? Anthropic principle
Is our universe real? Demon dream
Do we have free will? The neural zombie
Can you really experience anything objectively?
What is the best moral system?
What are numbers?
What Is Knowledge?
Can Consciousness Be Explained?
How Much Is Enough?
What Do We Owe Future Generations?

I spent three years researching the topic: “What is infinity?”
And saw a PhD thesis titled: “What, precisely, is uncertainty?”
One that I’ve never seen asked is: “When is the right age to die?”

Some more from “https://parade.com/1185047/marynliles/philosophical-questions”: https://parade.com/1185047/marynliles/philosophical-questions/

Do you know the answer to question 169?

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Date: 18/09/2022 11:05:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1934364
Subject: re: Philosophy

mollwollfumble said:

Do you know the answer to question 169?

Yes.
but yyou have to get out if the car to see it.

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Date: 18/09/2022 11:11:05
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1934367
Subject: re: Philosophy

The shoe is a sign.

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Date: 18/09/2022 11:21:15
From: buffy
ID: 1934375
Subject: re: Philosophy

mollwollfumble said:


“Philosophy goes where hard science can’t, or won’t. Philosophers have a license to speculate about everything from metaphysics to morality, and this means they can shed light on some of the basic questions of existence.”

“Philosophical methods include questioning, critical discussion, rational argument, and systematic presentation.”

  • Branches include:
    Metaphysics – the fundamental nature of existence and reality
    Epistemology – the difference between knowledge and belief
    Ethics
    Logic
    Philosophy of science (what qualifies as science, the reliability of scientific theories, and the ultimate purpose of science)
    Political philosophy
    Aesthetics
    Philosophy of language
    Philosophy of mind – mentality, cognition, thought

Why is there something rather than nothing? Anthropic principle
Is our universe real? Demon dream
Do we have free will? The neural zombie
Can you really experience anything objectively?
What is the best moral system?
What are numbers?
What Is Knowledge?
Can Consciousness Be Explained?
How Much Is Enough?
What Do We Owe Future Generations?

I spent three years researching the topic: “What is infinity?”
And saw a PhD thesis titled: “What, precisely, is uncertainty?”
One that I’ve never seen asked is: “When is the right age to die?”

Some more from “https://parade.com/1185047/marynliles/philosophical-questions”: https://parade.com/1185047/marynliles/philosophical-questions/

  • General Questions
    7. Is there inherent order in nature or is it all chaos and chance?
    8. Is there an alternative to capitalism?
    9. Is it more important to be respected or liked?
    13. Are humans obligated to better themselves?
    14. Is there a meaning of life?
    15. Is having a big ego a negative or positive trait?
    23. Is it easier to love or to be loved?
    24. What is time?
    25. Do acts of kindness have a motive?
    38. Does observation alter an event?
    39. If everyone spoke their mind would this world be a better place?
    40. Where does the universe end?
  • Thought-provoking questions
    76. Why do we do things we do not like to do?
    77. If lying is wrong, are white lies okay?
    78. Do atheists make their own gods?
    80. Can artificial intelligence be creative?
    82. What is intelligence?
    90. What defines you?
    95. Will robots take over the world in the future?
    99. Are we the biggest threat to humanity?
    101. Do parallel universes exist?
    102. What role does honor play in today’s society?
    109. Will racism cease to exist?
    119. What’s more important: doing the right thing or doing things right?
    120. Why do people fear losing things that they do not even have yet?
    122. What makes a good friend?
    127. Is peace the only way to stop a war?
    135. Intelligence or wisdom, what’s more important for a better world?
    136. Where is the line between insanity and creativity?
    141. What is the meaning of rich and poor in the modern world?
    144. If you could choose just one thing to change about the world, what would it be?
    150. Can a person be “educated” without a formal education?
  • Intellectual questions
    151. Will technological advances wipe out humanity?
    152. What are dreams and why do we have them?
    153. Does understanding philosophy lead to progress?
    154. Will it ever be possible to travel through time? Space?
    155. Is there a species more advanced than humans in the universe?
    166. Does awareness of consciousness have benefits?
    167. Is torture ever justified?
    168. Do thoughts have a pattern?
    169. When you are driving and see one shoe on the side of the road, what do you think happened to the other shoe?
    177. Should people have the right to live and travel anywhere they wish with no state or country boundaries?
    178. Why can’t every person be a genius?
    179. Should people be allowed to sell their organs and should organ donors be financially compensated?
    187. Is there a cause for every event?
    193. Does luck exist?
    194. What rights, if any, do animals have?
    201. Can we know about happiness without knowing about sadness?
    207. Are some people natural-born leaders, or do they develop the traits over time?
    223. How likely do you think it will be that humans will last another 1,000 years without killing ourselves off?
    224. Would you want to know you are going to die beforehand or die suddenly without warning?
    225. Does the study of philosophy ever lead to answers or simply more questions?

Do you know the answer to question 169?

All ambulance officers and ex-ambulance officers can answer that one. And it does their PTSD no good at all.

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Date: 18/09/2022 11:34:17
From: transition
ID: 1934377
Subject: re: Philosophy

philosophy might be generalized to have an explorative theme, babies and toddlers are doing it, they do, you might call it proto-philosophy, but that patronizes the developed philosophy of adults and the adult world, perhaps in a distorted way, or potentially does, the grownups philosophy is perhaps more often ideology, though I guess aspects of ideology could be considered philosophical, i’m sure some or a lot is explorative, or allows or inclines it, depending how generous

i’m more inclined to see ideology as a rigidity, inclines conceptual rigidity

the essence of philosophy, the informal business, I think always has some metaphysics, if you consider minds, a wetware computational apparatus, it explores the representational field, its core work is representational conversion, and it overlaps art in that undefined territory, or defies being predefined, the territory is more an operating space, an open space, think of it as an expanse

and how is philosophy and metaphysics progressing in modern times?

you might get an idea from the original Star Trek TV series and compare it with the most recent movies that go by the same name

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Date: 18/09/2022 12:53:49
From: Arts
ID: 1934436
Subject: re: Philosophy

mollwollfumble said:


“Philosophy goes where hard science can’t, or won’t. Philosophers have a license to speculate about everything from metaphysics to morality, and this means they can shed light on some of the basic questions of existence.”

“Philosophical methods include questioning, critical discussion, rational argument, and systematic presentation.”

  • Branches include:
    Metaphysics – the fundamental nature of existence and reality
    Epistemology – the difference between knowledge and belief
    Ethics
    Logic
    Philosophy of science (what qualifies as science, the reliability of scientific theories, and the ultimate purpose of science)
    Political philosophy
    Aesthetics
    Philosophy of language
    Philosophy of mind – mentality, cognition, thought

Why is there something rather than nothing? Anthropic principle
Is our universe real? Demon dream
Do we have free will? The neural zombie
Can you really experience anything objectively?
What is the best moral system?
What are numbers?
What Is Knowledge?
Can Consciousness Be Explained?
How Much Is Enough?
What Do We Owe Future Generations?

I spent three years researching the topic: “What is infinity?”
And saw a PhD thesis titled: “What, precisely, is uncertainty?”
One that I’ve never seen asked is: “When is the right age to die?”

Some more from “https://parade.com/1185047/marynliles/philosophical-questions”: https://parade.com/1185047/marynliles/philosophical-questions/

  • General Questions
    7. Is there inherent order in nature or is it all chaos and chance?
    8. Is there an alternative to capitalism?
    9. Is it more important to be respected or liked?
    13. Are humans obligated to better themselves?
    14. Is there a meaning of life?
    15. Is having a big ego a negative or positive trait?
    23. Is it easier to love or to be loved?
    24. What is time?
    25. Do acts of kindness have a motive?
    38. Does observation alter an event?
    39. If everyone spoke their mind would this world be a better place?
    40. Where does the universe end?
  • Thought-provoking questions
    76. Why do we do things we do not like to do?
    77. If lying is wrong, are white lies okay?
    78. Do atheists make their own gods?
    80. Can artificial intelligence be creative?
    82. What is intelligence?
    90. What defines you?
    95. Will robots take over the world in the future?
    99. Are we the biggest threat to humanity?
    101. Do parallel universes exist?
    102. What role does honor play in today’s society?
    109. Will racism cease to exist?
    119. What’s more important: doing the right thing or doing things right?
    120. Why do people fear losing things that they do not even have yet?
    122. What makes a good friend?
    127. Is peace the only way to stop a war?
    135. Intelligence or wisdom, what’s more important for a better world?
    136. Where is the line between insanity and creativity?
    141. What is the meaning of rich and poor in the modern world?
    144. If you could choose just one thing to change about the world, what would it be?
    150. Can a person be “educated” without a formal education?
  • Intellectual questions
    151. Will technological advances wipe out humanity?
    152. What are dreams and why do we have them?
    153. Does understanding philosophy lead to progress?
    154. Will it ever be possible to travel through time? Space?
    155. Is there a species more advanced than humans in the universe?
    166. Does awareness of consciousness have benefits?
    167. Is torture ever justified?
    168. Do thoughts have a pattern?
    169. When you are driving and see one shoe on the side of the road, what do you think happened to the other shoe?
    177. Should people have the right to live and travel anywhere they wish with no state or country boundaries?
    178. Why can’t every person be a genius?
    179. Should people be allowed to sell their organs and should organ donors be financially compensated?
    187. Is there a cause for every event?
    193. Does luck exist?
    194. What rights, if any, do animals have?
    201. Can we know about happiness without knowing about sadness?
    207. Are some people natural-born leaders, or do they develop the traits over time?
    223. How likely do you think it will be that humans will last another 1,000 years without killing ourselves off?
    224. Would you want to know you are going to die beforehand or die suddenly without warning?
    225. Does the study of philosophy ever lead to answers or simply more questions?

Do you know the answer to question 169?

it’s in the washing machine uniting with the sock

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Date: 18/09/2022 13:04:51
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1934446
Subject: re: Philosophy

169 nevermind the shoe you see in the road, it’s the shoe you don’t see that will probably kill you.

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Date: 18/09/2022 13:11:24
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1934449
Subject: re: Philosophy

177 sure just get rid of all national borders but that mist mean all doors on ALL houses, government buildings , businesses, ALL buildings . No internal doors are allowed either – love is love.

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Date: 18/09/2022 13:13:22
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1934451
Subject: re: Philosophy

wookiemeister said:


177 sure just get rid of all national borders but that mist mean all doors on ALL houses, government buildings , businesses, ALL buildings . No internal doors are allowed either – love is love.

Oh yes , anyone can walk into ANYWHERE no questions asked

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Date: 18/09/2022 13:13:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 1934452
Subject: re: Philosophy

wookiemeister said:


177 sure just get rid of all national borders but that mist mean all doors on ALL houses, government buildings , businesses, ALL buildings . No internal doors are allowed either – love is love.

:)

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Date: 18/09/2022 13:14:23
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1934454
Subject: re: Philosophy

wookiemeister said:


wookiemeister said:

177 sure just get rid of all national borders but that mist mean all doors on ALL houses, government buildings , businesses, ALL buildings . No internal doors are allowed either – love is love.

Oh yes , anyone can walk into ANYWHERE no questions asked

Walls don’t work

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Date: 18/09/2022 13:50:23
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1934470
Subject: re: Philosophy

What a strange question to pick as the only* one worthy of further discussion.

If you are driving you should be focussed on the road, and those things close to the road that might affect your safe path ahead.

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Date: 18/09/2022 14:03:40
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1934476
Subject: re: Philosophy

Here’s a start on the rest:

mollwollfumble said:

Why is there something rather than nothing? Anthropic principle – Yes the anthropic principle is the answer to that

Is our universe real? Demon dream – Yes, at least in some sense. See above.

Do we have free will? The neural zombie – Ask Bubblecar, he has the answer.

Can you really experience anything objectively? – Depends what you mean by “objectively”, but for sensible definitions the answer is yes.

What is the best moral system? – Treat everyone as part of your family.

What are numbers? – Things that define the size of things, or the order of things.

What Is Knowledge? – Knowing stuff, or at least having reasonable grounds to believe that some stuff is true.

Can Consciousness Be Explained? – I don’t know. I have yet to see any good evidence to suggest that it can.

How Much Is Enough? – A little bit more than not quite enough.

What Do We Owe Future Generations? – We don’t owe them anything. We owe it to ourselves to leave the World in as good a condition as possible, so far as we are able.

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Date: 20/09/2022 05:54:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1935140
Subject: re: Philosophy

OK I’ll add 2c to a couple of these topics, maybe more later:

>Why is there something rather than nothing?

Here’s a previous thread I posted on this topic:

https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/?main=https%3A//tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/5328/

Can be summed up as: There’s no such thing as nothing, in an absolute sense. It’s a human invention that has no physical equivalent.

Anything that can be empirically shown to exist necessarily has characteristics that can be described by physics.

>Do we have free will?

It makes no sense to describe human will as “free” if by this you mean non-deterministic, since will is inherently deterministic in nature.

Human will results in events occurring that are extremely unlikely to occur randomly, or by non-human means.

Thus the events that brought us into being ensured the emergence of many other, more complex deterministic chains.

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Date: 20/09/2022 09:43:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1935156
Subject: re: Philosophy

mollwollfumble said:

“Philosophy goes where hard science can’t, or won’t.

no comment

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Date: 21/09/2022 23:17:15
From: sibeen
ID: 1935779
Subject: re: Philosophy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzlCdWwYn2I&ab_channel=Chris0BW

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Date: 22/09/2022 08:35:35
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1935844
Subject: re: Philosophy

sibeen said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzlCdWwYn2I&ab_channel=Chris0BW

Very profound :)

For some reason that wasn’t in the store of Monty P sketches in my head (until now).

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Date: 22/09/2022 09:36:21
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1935862
Subject: re: Philosophy

The Rev Dodgson said:


sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzlCdWwYn2I&ab_channel=Chris0BW

Very profound :)

For some reason that wasn’t in the store of Monty P sketches in my head (until now).

Coincidentally, straight after watching this I read the following response to a claim that Americans do get irony, because Monty Python is very popular in the USA:

“There is little or no irony in Monty Python.”

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Date: 22/09/2022 09:40:02
From: sibeen
ID: 1935864
Subject: re: Philosophy

The Rev Dodgson said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzlCdWwYn2I&ab_channel=Chris0BW

Very profound :)

For some reason that wasn’t in the store of Monty P sketches in my head (until now).

Coincidentally, straight after watching this I read the following response to a claim that Americans do get irony, because Monty Python is very popular in the USA:

“There is little or no irony in Monty Python.”

Isn’t that ironic.

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Date: 22/09/2022 09:43:58
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1935866
Subject: re: Philosophy

“This parrot is no more” Descarte

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Date: 22/09/2022 09:44:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1935868
Subject: re: Philosophy

wookiemeister said:


“This parrot is no more” Descarte

A Norwegian Blue?

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Date: 22/09/2022 09:49:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1935876
Subject: re: Philosophy

sibeen said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Very profound :)

For some reason that wasn’t in the store of Monty P sketches in my head (until now).

Coincidentally, straight after watching this I read the following response to a claim that Americans do get irony, because Monty Python is very popular in the USA:

“There is little or no irony in Monty Python.”

Isn’t that ironic.

don’t you think

or do you not exist

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